Jim Fetzer - The Raw Deal (9 January 2026) with Major Tom Haviland and Monique Lukens

Jan. 10, 2026 - Jim Fetzer

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The Raw Deal (9 January 2026) with Major Tom Haviland and Monique Lukens

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	I need somebody, not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I was younger, so much younger than you did.
	And we never meet anybody's help in any way.
	Now these days are gone and I'm not so self-assured.
	I'm not a child.
	I'm a general mind.
	I'm not the dog.
	Help me if you can.
	I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate your fears.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Want to pray?
	Pray as well.
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 9th day of January, 2026, with special guests Major Tom Harkins from the Air Force, who got into trouble by questioning the VAX.
	Very appropriate thing to do, but it can be unpopular with the military.
	And Monique Lukans, who had recommended Major Tom join us today.
	I'm very pleased to have them here.
	Havilland, of course, correct name.
	Meanwhile, Russia strikes Ukraine with a Reshnik ballistic missile, one of its most advanced.
	The Russians, I think, are no longer going to play games here about Ukraine.
	I believe they've lost faith in Donald Trump.
	That Venezuela was the last straw.
	Chasing after Russian-flagged oil tankers being another complicating factor.
	Russian attacked Ukraine with hypersonic Reshnik missile overnight Thursday, rare use of one of its most advanced weapons during the latest onslaught targeting the country amid freezing temperatures.
	The strike marks the first time in more than a year that Moscow is unleashed a rechnique, which can contain multiple warheads and carry conventional or nuclear payloads.
	Meanwhile, Russia warns that Western forces in Ukraine would be considered legitimate combat targets.
	Frankly, they ought to have been from the beginning.
	Russia Thursday also warned any Western military force that deployed to Ukraine under a post-war security arrangement would be considered legitimate combat targets, sharply criticizing a newly signed Paris Declaration outlining security guarantees for Kiev.
	How absurd.
	In a statement most of the Russian military telegram channel, Spokewoman Maria Zakharova, very fine person, said the declaration backed by Ukraine and the United States and Europe, several European countries was not aimed at peace, but rather further militarizing Ukraine and escalating the conflict.
	Russia will never buy it.
	Meanwhile, just to indicate the severity of the consequences, the mayor of Kiev has declared its evacuation.
	No electricity, no water, no heat after Russian attack.
	Here we have Hal Turner reporting.
	Mayor Kacho of Kiev has told City Resident they should evacuate because after Russia's massive attacks last night, the city has no electricity, no water, and no heat.
	None of them can be repaired anymore.
	The mayor explicitly told citizens anyone with the opportunity to leave camp should leave.
	Almost 6,000 apartment buildings at the capital have been left without heating due to shelling.
	After the massive attack on critical infrastructure, Kiev has experienced disruptions in water supply, electricity supply, and heating.
	The only admitted uncertainty about tomorrow he admitted uncertainty about tomorrow and urged Kiev Reza to leave the city due to the total blackout and non-functioning heating systems.
	The member of Parliament Kachenko said that municipal services have already been instructed to drain water from internal building systems to prevent heating pipes from bursting due to frozen water.
	The situation very, very serious.
	And here's a map indicating how massively have been the attacks.
	Meanwhile, Iranian security forces are hunting Mossad agents as policemen fall to terror attacks.
	I believe that the protests in Tehran are largely generated as part of a CIA Mossad-style color revolution effort to disrupt internal affairs that are not authentic.
	Iranian security and judicial authorities have announced a dismantling of several armed terror cells and the arrest of foreign-linked operatives amid a wave of foreign-backed riots that have claimed the lives of several law enforcement officers.
	The unrest has continued for days with riders exploiting public concern over rising living costs and currency depreciation to incite violence.
	In the western city of Banur Yard, public prosecutor Godar Zamani confirmed the arrest of several ringleaders for orchestra riots and attacking religious sites and public property.
	Meanwhile, Rainians Tulsi turns out to have been sidelined during the Venezuelan operation, no doubt, because she would have called it out as a violation of international law of the sovereignty of Venezuela of the Geneva Conventions.
	Very, very bad.
	No consequence from this that I can discern.
	It's great.
	There's a lot more questions than answers when it comes to what the Trump administration is doing in terms of ruling Venezuela.
	Trump said pretty clearly that his team was going to rule Venezuela.
	But at this point, the Trump administration is in a way backtracking on this.
	Marco Rubio has said, we're not actually running the country, but we're working with the current leadership in Venezuela.
	Changes of all kinds, long-term, short-term, we'd love to see all kinds of changes, but the most immediate changes are the ones that are in the national interest of the United States.
	It's been just 24 hours since Maduro's capture.
	The dust is still settling in Caracas right now.
	The United States has sanctioned Venezuela to the hilt, and it's blocked a lot of its oil from being exported elsewhere in the world.
	At this moment, those export bans are still in place.
	Now, there's an opportunity here for the United States if the new interim government in Venezuela begins working with them for the U.S. to look to ease those sanctions, lift those sanctions, bring in American companies to begin investing and rebuilding Venezuela's oil infrastructure.
	Of course, there's no real clarity about what comes next.
	Let me say that Maduro himself was already inviting in American companies to develop Venezuela's oil.
	From 2003 to 2013, Hugo Chavez, after nationalizing the Venezuelan oil system, saw the wealth of Venezuela increase dramatically.
	Since Maduro's come in, however, it's dropped precipitously, in part because of massive sanctions, but none of it appears to have been justified.
	Meanwhile, and in particular, the claims of narco-terrorism were clear fabrications, taking out the boats.
	We've killed over 100, appears to be either war crimes or murder, violation of international law, no attempt to interdict to verify what was in transport, if anything.
	The whole idea of transporting drugs from Venezuela to the U.S. is rather absurd since it would have required on the order of 22 refueling stops, just ridiculous.
	Plus, we know the fentanyl drugs are coming from Mexico, not from Venezuela.
	Meanwhile, Trump is now declaring the whole hemisphere is in play.
	Political reports with brash threats aimed all around the region.
	The president and his team have made it clear Venezuela may be just the beginning, sparking fear across the Western Hemisphere and quite a lot of criticism.
	As President Trump, Saturday, the U.S. would run Venezuela for now.
	He and Tom Aid made clear the U.S. may not stop there and demanded that the rest of the world take note.
	Believe me, the rest of the world has taken note.
	Secretary of Defense Pete Higgseth, remember, redesignated Secretary of War, said Venezuela's longtime dictator, Nicholas Maduro, and I'm not at all sure that that term fits,
	captured in an overnight raid and extradited to New York Saturday, may be indicted on narco-conspiracy charges, that he had a chance to leave on his own before becoming the latest example of leader paying a high price for not responding to Trump's pressure.
	But it's all violation of international law, outrageous.
	Even Judge Napolitano has weighed in.
	I'm a huge fan.
	He writes of a lawless presidency.
	United States invasion of Venezuela and kidnapping of Nicolas Maduro, the domestically recognized Venezuelan president, violated the U.S. Constitution and international law.
	The Constitution makes clear only Congress can authorize a foreign invasion.
	In the pre-World War II era, Congress declared war on countries that attacked the U.S. or were allied with those that had, and those declarations expired upon the surrender by legal authorities in the targeted countries.
	In the post-9-11 era, Congress has chosen to authorize the use of military force without providing for a trigger that would terminate the authorization.
	Indeed, just last month, Congress rescinded George W. Bush's military authorization used by President Barack Obama and Donald Trump to target groups not even in existence at the time of the authorization.
	But as morally deficient as the authorizations may have been, they were at least constitutionally sound, as they were the product of presidential requests and congressional deliberation and authorization.
	We now know that at least two of these were fraudulent, that the admin lied to Congress and did the United Nations.
	But again, at least it fomented debate and recognized its obligations under the Constitution and the U.N. Charter to seek approval before invading a foreign country.
	The Charter is a treaty drafted by U.S. officials in the aftermath of World War II, ratified by the Senate, where, under the Constitution, treaties are, like the Constitution itself, the supreme law of the land, indeed.
	Meanwhile, Greenland is rather petrified as what's going to happen next, given the lawlessness that Trump has shown here, expressing fear and indignation as Trump eyes the territory.
	Not a good thing.
	And of course, it appears in my eyes and those of many others that this is another lawless act on the part of Donald Trump.
	Meanwhile, the U.S. Navy is chasing oil tankers in the Atlantic, some of which are bearing the Russian flag.
	Here's from the New York Times.
	A mass departure by sanctioned tankers, some switching to Russian flags, it triggered a fresh effort by the U.S. to pursue Venezuelan oil shipments at sea.
	A U.S. Navy vessel is pursuing several sanctioned oil tankers that appear to be making a break across the Atlantic after leaving Venezuelan waters earlier this week, according to satellite imagery and a U.S. military official.
	The ships, most of them laden with oil, are hundreds of miles from land, appear to be heading east toward Africa and Europe.
	The U.S. began a partial naval blockade of Venezuelan oil shipments in mid-December and has since boarded or seized four vessels attempting to trade oil in defiance of the effort Wednesday.
	U.S. forces intercepted and took control of two of these ships, going one season between Iceland and Britain after a week-long chase across the North Atlantic, which in fact had changed to the Russian flag.
	This is very bad, very touchy, very serious, with all kinds of potential hazards.
	Meanwhile, of course, we have a variety of events developing in Minnesota after a nice official shot an anti-ICE protester who was blocking the road with her vehicle and then sought to drive away.
	JD Vance, in a press conference that I found very uncomfortable, snapped at mainstream media for asking what he regarded as ridiculous questions related to the Minnesota ICE shooting, assuming the protesters lack of wrongdoing and placing sole blame on the ICE agent.
	I think it's a complex situation and there was blame on both sides.
	The reason this woman is dead is because she tried to run somebody, ram somebody with her car and the guy acted in self-defense.
	Vance exploded to reporters.
	Now, honestly, I did not like Rance's style.
	He is too over-the-top, too aggressive, came across as superficial and defensive, very, very contrary to the politics.
	Hey, guys, welcome in.
	This is Matt Miller with Politibrawl.
	JD Vance just scolded a reporter and really snapped at the entire press room for asking questions that assumed any lack of wrongdoing on the part of the protester who was shot yesterday in Minneapolis by an ICE agent.
	Let's take a look.
	This was a very intense press conference today.
	We're going to give in to terrorism on this, and that's exactly what's happened.
	People trying to antagonize, to commit acts of violence, they throw bricks at them.
	Sometimes they shoot at them.
	Sometimes they dox them.
	Sometimes they go to their place of residence and harass their families.
	This is classic terrorism.
	And we cannot say that when a far-left fringe is inciting violence against our brave law enforcement officials, that we're no longer going to enforce the law.
	That's rewarding the very people who are engaged in this garbage.
	The actual reward that they just got is a new assistant attorney general who is gonna prosecute and investigate this stuff even more aggressively than before.
	Yeah.
	Thanks for taking my question.
	So the head of Minnesota's investigations agency says that the U.S. Attorney's Office has essentially cut off the state investigation agency's access to the investigation.
	What is the precedent for that and why shouldn't the Minnesota officials on the ground have access and evidence to work on this investigation?
	First of all, I wish the state officials in Minnesota would investigate why you have so many people who are using their vehicles and other means to actually interfere with a legitimate law enforcement operation.
	The precedent here is very simple.
	You have a federal law enforcement official engaging in federal law enforcement action.
	That's a federal issue.
	That guy is protected by absolute immunity.
	He was doing his job.
	The idea that Tim Walt and a bunch of radicals in Minneapolis are going to go after and make this guy's life miserable because he was doing the job that he was asked to do is preposterous.
	The unprecedented thing is the idea that a local official could actually prosecute a federal official with absolute immunity.
	I've never seen anything like that.
	It would get tossed out by a judge.
	So what I'd like Minnesota to focus on is the real issue that they're encouraging people.
	Minneapolis officials are encouraging people to commit violence against ICE officials.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's got to stop.
	That's one of the more constrained aspects of his interview, where the governor has now said, ask the president to leave Minnesota alone, but that's preposterous.
	They were enforcing federal law.
	Minnesota is not exempt from federal law.
	Here we have another report about it.
	Here we have a report.
	Let's listen to this.
	What we allow to happen in Palestine will come for us.
	You will wake up one morning and you will find it on your doorstep and you will go, how did this happen?
	We know how it happened.
	Palestine is a litmus test and we're failing.
	This morning in Minneapolis, Minnesota, ICE agents shot a woman to death.
	And this isn't surprising.
	This isn't even really news in the United States of America, where we send our agents and our officers to Israel to train in how to not be human.
	I think she's got a good point there.
	The idea of sending American police forces and ICE agents to Israel, where they're trained to treat American citizens the way the Israeli treat Palestinians, is a very bad thing.
	Monique, you mentioned we have here a video of the car.
	This is the most issue controversial aspect of this complex issue.
	Actually, hitting the ICE agent, which one presumably would recognize and might very well justify a deadly response.
	Let's take a look at what we have here.
	It's your friend Alex.
	Lunatic leftist sitting around everywhere.
	So confident if you can go on X once you watch white wood, it'll just actually hundreds of videos and public officials calling for violence against ICE.
	I need it.
	It's illegal.
	Monique, do you have the time again?
	Sure.
	I'll get that time code for you.
	Find it for me and I'll see what I can do to pick it up.
	Sure.
	It's looks like it's 122108.
	122108.
	Okay.
	Toward the middle here.
	Let's see.
	This is 1143.
	Let's go from here.
	We need you to get aggressive.
	We need one of you to be a martyr.
	Who knows who it'll be, but we need you to get out there.
	We need you to get killed.
	I'm going to show you the articles and videos.
	I mean, look, I know these women are stupid and think they're these angels, but I mean, they know what they're doing.
	And the feds have been told that they're doing constitutional duty to be extremely restrained, but not to die.
	But the left is asking their people, go out and suicide by cop so we can play victims.
	So now we're, what, three days into this?
	Four days, one to four days.
	And you don't see any channel but Fox, that's mainstream media, showing that she's, quote, an anti-fuss super soldier, that she's part of Ice Watch, that she's a, quote, mommy warrior.
	They're still just showing back shots saying, look, he killed her for no reason.
	That is premeditated agitation is beyond yelling fire in a theater.
	And I have literally dozens of the most insane videos from Maine to Oregon, to Washington, to Illinois, to Texas, to New York.
	And they're all like, this guy's a murderer.
	He murdered her.
	Remember her name?
	Be a good person and get out in the streets right now.
	I shouldn't be in this city.
	It's all illegal.
	You get the hell out of here.
	And Walls is like, let's be peaceful, but I got the National Guard.
	I may use them to counter the feds.
	We haven't had to do this since 1863 at the start of the Civil War.
	When Minnesota was in the front line, what?
	That's the opposite.
	This is rogue states with Soros, Democrat-controlled DAs, mayors, governors, judges doing the same thing that the Democrats did back in 1863.
	Just like I've been saying.
	Trump's 100% following the law.
	All the courts have agreed.
	My God, they focus mainly on illegal aliens that have giant rap sheets.
	Remember all the crimes the guy that was convicted of that the cop that shot this lady six months ago got run over by?
	What was like pedophilia and armed robbery?
	I mean, it's like, what the hell?
	He had drugged hundreds and hundreds of yards with stitches all over his arms and legs and body.
	And then here comes somebody again trying to hit him.
	He's hit me, lady, with a 3,000-pound weapon.
	That's the same thing as walking out of the town square and you got your gun and they got their gun in the old west.
	And you pull that, you pull that vehicle, you ram that vehicle.
	That's the same as pulling your gun, lady, and pulling the trigger.
	Well, you had a problem because the ICE agent that they're doxing or demonizing, Jonathan Ross, had a big iron on his hip.
	And can you imagine the adventures he's had in the last year out there?
	Reportedly, he's had a bunch of other conversations and other stuff.
	I mean, can you imagine the adventure these men and women are on?
	I only gave you 90 seconds.
	I see hundreds of videos a day.
	Like, they're just walking water bottle, bouncing.
	Although, this is interesting what he's saying.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom.
	They shoot their vehicle up.
	Trantyfoot kills a Border Patrol agent.
	Serial killer groups out.
	Three different ice facilities have been shot up in the last six months of Texas alone, and no one even knows about it.
	Every few hours this comes out.
	Feds fire shots.
	Legal alien rams the agent's vehicle, bites officer in St. Paul.
	See, this is just now coming out.
	I didn't even know about this.
	And they tell them they're Nazis, go get them.
	And now it's being reported that you'll have federal marshals doing a raid on a drug dealer that isn't even a legal alien.
	And you'll see it.
	It happened in Fort Worth a few weeks ago.
	It also happened in Minnesota about a month ago.
	And just people go, what are you doing?
	And they're like serving a warrant.
	And then here come people just screaming and yelling at them.
	They're so dumb, they don't even know it's not ICE.
	I mean, again, as I said a million times, when the feds were being trained for gun confiscation and martial law, and it was insiders that gave us the intel in the documents, we weren't against the government existence.
	We were against unconstitutional operations.
	These operations are 100% constitutional.
	They're doing their duty and they're the underdog.
	10,000 of them against 40 million illegal aliens and 50, 60, 70 million foaming at the mouth leftists?
	We'll be right back after this lesson.
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	And now we return you to your host.
	Monique, go ahead.
	You got it queued up.
	Please.
	Okay, great.
	That's that's great.
	That X.com, it's hard to forward through.
	All right, here we go.
	This is what I wanted to share.
	It's about 90 seconds here.
	You're going to be seeing it.
	It is a bit blurry, but you're going to be able to see that he was hit from this footage.
	With the car.
	I'll show you a blow-up of that.
	And then he's got his gun out and shoots her in the head, saying he's afraid for himself and other officers.
	See that?
	I just paused it.
	Okay.
	And that's the corporate media, though, just keep showing these side shots and saying, oh, look, see what happens.
	So she starts spinning her wheel, starts rushing.
	He pulls the gun out.
	She hits him.
	He bounces off the front to the side.
	He'd have been just a few degrees more towards the front, he'd have gone under the car, and then she goes and plows into a vehicle.
	So that's it.
	That's what I wanted to share.
	That's that's undeniable.
	Unless this was CGI-generated, he was hit.
	And the mainstream news is not showing that.
	Most people online are not showing that.
	And you know, I listened to Alex Once in a blue moon, but he does have some legitimate opinions, facts, facts and opinions.
	Because, okay, first of all, we just had something happen with the governor, with the fraud, right?
	With Nick reporting on the fraud, the daycare centers, right?
	So, isn't this wonderful to take the just give me a moment?
	Stop this, share and bring it back to us.
	Okay, thank you.
	Wouldn't it be wonderful for the spotlight to go off of him and the fraud?
	And now it's on this.
	Now, let me say something: I'm a pacifist, I'm a vegan, I don't want to see any sentient being pass away.
	So, if she did, R.I.P. With that said, you, the master, Dr. Fetzer, taught me to look at the number 33.
	This incident happened between the streets 33 and 34.
	Then, what do I see is a photo of the airbag.
	Horrible blood splatter.
	So, I'm thinking this is correct, right?
	Because we didn't see that for Charlie, right?
	That we all know that that was not what we saw.
	We all know that.
	But the thing is, then I looked on the car seat of this particular still.
	There was nothing.
	There wasn't anything on the driver's seat.
	There wasn't anything on the passenger seat.
	And so now I'm a little bit suspicious, along with the fact that, and I'm not saying that someone can't see this organically, but the person that is yelling, What did you do?
	That's kind of like an iffy kind of comment to make when someone is shot.
	It would be more like, Oh my God, or something like that.
	I mean, for me, I wouldn't say that.
	I guess other people have different reactions, but that was a bit inorganic to me.
	Let me just put it that way.
	So, people can believe what they want.
	This is to me, it's in the same area as George Floyd, and I still don't believe that he passed away.
	If he did, I apologize, but I spoke to an attorney who specifically stated that he passed away in 2015.
	I have recordings of this.
	His name is attorney Timothy Jaffet.
	He's still practicing in Texas.
	Was he a red herring?
	Was he making it up?
	I can't tell you that, but he is in the news.
	It is on his Facebook page.
	And who knows what happened?
	I just went off on the soapbox.
	Thank you, Dr. Fetzer.
	That's all fine, Monique.
	Here we have the ice shooter.
	He has an immigrant Filipino wife.
	He's an Iraq veteran and father whose father has come to his defense.
	She, Renee Nicole Good, was part of an ice watch list.
	Was actually blocking the street with her vehicle when this incident occurred.
	The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Investigation has been cut off.
	The agency has reluctantly withdrawn.
	I think that's bad.
	I think Minnesota ought to be involved in the investigation.
	And the very idea of cutting it off is a bad one.
	Meanwhile, Jesse Ventura has come out and called out Donald Trump here for what's happening here.
	Kind of striking, branding him as a draft dodging coward, Trump, and even suggesting my run for governor again.
	This is kind of fascinating to see Jesse back in the saddle.
	The last time I spoke with him, I was inviting him to come on my show, and he told me how he had retired from the biz, as it were.
	Here we have Jesse Ventura has called President Donald Trump a draft dodging coward.
	Kennedy might make another run for Minnesota governor in the wake of a wave of immigration enforcement raids sweeping through Minneapolis.
	Ventura, well, the Minnesota gubernatorship from 1999 to 2003.
	He had me on his radio show as governor when he was there when my first book of collaborative research on JFK was published in actually 1998.
	Assassination Signs, he had me on the show to talk about it.
	Opted against seeking a second term.
	I think he would have been re-elected.
	The Vietnam vet, former Navy SEAL Brown's best remembered by many for his wrestling days as Jesse the Body Ventura.
	No, I think he's more remembered for his shows, that conspiracy theory, Jesse Ventura's America, and the like.
	Monique, would you have any further comments you'd like to make about what's going on in Minneapolis?
	I would like to see comerheads prevail.
	I think that Vance was, if you watch the whole Vance interview, it's just so over the top.
	He'd have said there's a complex situation.
	There's fault on both sides.
	The agent could have handled it better.
	She should not have driven away and hit him with her vehicle, which prompted his reaction.
	But let's see if we can't settle down and sort this out.
	I think that's what Vance ought to have done.
	Instead, he went into a flaming rant.
	What you saw there, I'm assuring you, is one of the more modest or temperate aspects of what he had to say.
	Monique, your thoughts.
	Again, I don't know if this is a false flag.
	I pointed out what I saw.
	If it's not, people need to be more soft-spoken about this because someone would have passed away whether it's her fault or not.
	But she was a legal observer, is what the news says.
	So she was not supposed to be blocking traffic.
	I will put that out there.
	Okay, I'm not saying if it happened, I'm not saying it should have happened, but she should not have been blocking the road.
	And these see these are the little details that aren't being talked about.
	And I have to say, I really hate the right, the left thing.
	It just gets everything so cluttered.
	But there is a certain tactic that people of this certain position seem to be taking.
	And it seems to be more violent.
	You know, a lot of times they're like, oh no, white supremacists, the right people, the right people, they're the violent ones, but I'm not seeing that.
	You know, if I'm missing something, I apologize.
	But right away, like, I see people getting angry on social media.
	And I don't like this at all.
	I want people to rationally dissect it and think about it.
	I'm very troubled by the extent to which the Libtards have politicized the deportation effort.
	We've got millions of illegals here.
	They should never have been allowed into the country.
	Trump is now revising our immigration standards.
	I'm not sure what specifics it would be good if we adopted those parallel to Mexico, where you can only migrate into Mexico if, number one, you can show you have something to contribute to the good of Mexico.
	Plumber, carpenter, doctor, lawyer, and number two, you have the finance or resources to support yourself and your family so you don't become a burden on the state.
	If we were just to adopt those two principles, it would transform our situation overnight.
	And I'm embarrassed that the United States hasn't done such a reasonable thing.
	I do believe the Biden admin was set up to open the borders, to promote the callergy plan, to flood the nation with migrants from other nations today, loot the culture and the racial composition of America.
	And of course, we know the Coward Blivin plan, namely to overwhelm the welfare state, where it's recognized generally that open borders and a welfare state are incompatible.
	You cannot sustain both.
	We should never have had open borders.
	And I'm just absolutely shocked that the Democrats want to persist in somehow defending the presence of illegals.
	You can argue in a nuanced way about which, specifically, if there are to be some exceptions, ought to be deported and which allowed to remain, but that's not what's taking place here.
	This is a big enough issue that I can see it virtually fomenting a civil war here in America.
	Absolutely.
	And don't forget the votes count too, right?
	I think that's part of the program to get the people who come in to vote Democrat.
	That's part of it as well.
	Change the demographics and the allocation of districts to favor, in this case, the Democrats.
	Yeah, I think that's true.
	It's really difficult because if you point any of this out, we all know what's happening.
	You're called a racist.
	You know, sometimes I feel like putting a burlap bag over me.
	And so then I could just talk and nobody sees what I'm looking at.
	You know, looking like you're, of course, I want to be able to breathe, but no, it's very distressing for people that want to analyze, tell the truth, do journalism, citizen journalism.
	And it's very difficult.
	Look at how Nick, I don't know, remember his last name, but he was doing the interviewing and people were calling him a racist, a white supremacist.
	See, that's not right.
	You're talking about the Somali daycare center.
	Yes, and I'm afraid to say Somali because I'm not, right?
	I'm afraid to use the trigger words, but no, it's the truth.
	You can't say anything anymore unless you look like that person.
	And even if you do, unfortunately, some of them have been called an uncle, you know, what.
	So it makes it very difficult in the truth movement.
	Well, I don't think Uncle Tom is a forbidden phrase, Ronnie.
	That's permissible to use.
	Listen, listen, you were instrumental in bringing my Tom might get upset with me, okay?
	Major Tom, he's right here.
	Not upset at all, Monique.
	I agree with both of you.
	My wife's from Kenya, Africa, and she came into the country the right way.
	She got a green card.
	We had to go through the whole process of going to Cincinnati is where our immigration office was.
	We had to file paperwork and everything.
	She eventually became a naturalized U.S. citizen.
	I consider all the people that came in the country illegally.
	I would not have any problem whatsoever with every single one of them being tracked down and kicked out of the country because they came in illegally.
	They cut lines.
	How many people actually like it when somebody cuts in line in front of you?
	There's thousands of Kenyans that would love to come to this country the right way, the legal way, but they can't now because all these other people have come ahead of them, cut in line in front of them, and come in illegally.
	I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
	I hope they didn't track them all down and kick them out of the country.
	And people come in the right way after being vetted, after we know who they are and whether or not they have any intention to assimilate to the American way.
	I'm pretty good with that.
	Unless your life is like being threatened, I'm good with what you're saying, Major Tom.
	Next time somebody argues with you and says that we should allow these illegals to stay, ask them if they like it when they're in a line and somebody cuts in front of them, in a line they've been waiting in for an hour, and then 10 people come and cut in front of them.
	Ask them if you like that or not.
	That person would be called a narcissist.
	The one who cuts it off.
	Nobody likes it.
	Nobody likes being cut in front of.
	All right.
	Well, Major Tom, I'm delighted to have you here.
	Was that Monique's suggestion that I was featuring you in the past when an internet interruption, very rare in your experience, cut us off?
	I think you suggested it's happened maybe twice in 300 interviews.
	So let us anticipate it will not happen today.
	I'm ecstatic to have you back.
	As an Air Force pilot, you were asked or required to take the vax.
	You declined to do so.
	It led to a lot of hot water, and you've done a huge amount of research as a consequence.
	Please share with us your experience.
	Yeah, Dr. Fetzer, thanks for having me back.
	By the way, I'm sorry that we were interrupted last time.
	We were only about five minutes into that interview.
	Then I got cut off.
	By the way, I'm not a pilot.
	I'm a retired Air Force officer and electrical engineer.
	I flew a desk for 20 years in the Air Force.
	And then for, yeah, and then for an additional 16 years as a defense contractor working with the Air Force after that.
	So 36 years and with the Air Force, but it all came to an abrupt halt in October of 2021, as you said, when I refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine.
	That actually led me on a journey to conduct over the last four years now, these worldwide embalmer blood clot surveys.
	Embalmers all over the world are seeing these unusual white fibrous clots.
	Here's a sample of one of them.
	Here's a little bit larger sample.
	This one's about five and a half inches long.
	It's about half an inch wide.
	This is actually taken out of the abdominal aorta, one of the largest blood vessels in the body.
	I watched that movie Died Suddenly, Dr. Fetzer, the night it premiered.
	It was the week of Thanksgiving of 2022.
	And at the 13-minute and 15-second mark, an amazing statement was made in that movie.
	An embalmer from the state of Indiana, Mr. Wallace Hooker, was lecturing at an Ohio Embalmers Association conference in Columbus, Ohio on the 26th of October in 2022, lecturing to a room of about 100 embalmers.
	And he showed him photographs of these unusual white fibrous clots that he had been removing from his corpses for about the last year and a half.
	And he asked him by a show of hands, how many of you are seeing these same white fibrous clots?
	Well, he said almost the entire room of 100 embalmers raised their hands yes.
	He then asked them when did you start seeing them?
	And they all agreed it was in the middle of 2021, about six months after the COVID vaccines rolled out.
	So that was an amazing statement, right?
	Either that was true or false.
	Either those embalmers raised their hands or they didn't.
	So I watched that movie the night it premiered, the week of Monday of the week of Thanksgiving of 2022.
	I got up the next morning, Tuesday of that week, and I said, you know, I don't think any reporters are going to chase after this story.
	So I myself, I called the Ohio Embalmers Association.
	They're located in Cincinnati, Ohio, about an hour south of where I live in Dayton, Ohio.
	And I talked to their president, Mr. Dan Becker, their vice president of Mr. Woody Wilson, and their secretary of Mr. David Hicks.
	They asked all three gentlemen, hey, are you seeing these white fibrous clots?
	You know, were you in the room at the time?
	Did you see those embalmers raise their hands?
	Those 100 embalmers.
	Well, none of the gentlemen happened to be in the room at the time.
	However, Mr. Woody Wilson, who was the vice president at that time, who runs his own funeral home in Marysville, Ohio, and he does his own embalming.
	A lot of funeral directors do their own embalming.
	Woody said to me, Tom, I'm seeing the white fibrous clots too.
	So that was my wow moment, Dr. Fetzer.
	I now had an official officer, and Woody, by the way, is now the president of the Ohio Embalmers Association, corroborating these six or seven embalmers in this Died Sunday movie, saying that he was seeing these clots too.
	So right then and there, I decided to work with a friend of mine, Miss Laura Kasner, who's in Northeast Ohio.
	And we ran these, we first started in the United States, and then we expanded to Canada, UK, and Australia, New Zealand.
	And we've been running these worldwide embalmer blood clot surveys for the last four years.
	And every year we've run the survey, the majority of the embalmers, about 70 to 80% of the embalmers responding, have said they are indeed seeing these white fibrous clots.
	For most of them, it started in 2021 after rollout of the jabs.
	Now, it's interesting, there were a few embalmers that said they saw the phenomenon in 2020, which is the year that we had the COVID virus, but no vaccines yet.
	And that actually makes sense because what's causing the white fibrous clots from scientists that we've been in touch with is the spike protein.
	And we know there's a spike protein on the surface of the virus itself, and it can lead to clotting, these clotting issues.
	But then the number of embalmers seeing the phenomenon exploded in 2021 after the vaccines came out because the vaccines produce the spiked protein a much larger quantity than the virus does.
	So that all, you know, dovetail with each other.
	Each of our four surveys, one of the main questions we ask is, what percentage of your corpses contain these phenomena?
	And every year that we've run the survey, the answer has been anywhere between 20 to 30 percent of corpses contain these white fibrous clots.
	So this is not a rare phenomenon, Dr. Fetzer.
	These things are prevalent.
	They're in an average of anywhere like one out of five to one out of four corpses.
	We've also been tracking another phenomenon called microclotting, which occurs at your smaller blood vessels, your capillary level.
	And the microclots can block the exchange of oxygen at the lung and then the carrying of that oxygen to all the major organs of your body, including your brain, your eyes.
	That's why we think a lot of people these days are suffering from brain fog or vision problems.
	They may have microclotting going on inside their head.
	This is a phenomenon that embalmers did see prior to COVID, but in much less than 5% of their corpses, particularly people that had heavy chemotherapy.
	But now they're seeing that phenomenon in anywhere from 20 to 30% of their corpses.
	Again, at least a quadrupling of this microclotting phenomenon.
	The embalmers, by the way, don't describe it as microclotting.
	They call it what looks like dirty blood or coffee grounds as their, you know, their job is to get the body ready for a viewing, for a funeral viewing.
	So they drain the body of the blood and then they put in formaldehyde to preserve the corpse, you know, long enough so a viewing can take place so the family can say goodbye to their loved one.
	And that formaldehyde they put in helps to preserve the body so the body doesn't start deteriorating, become discolored, start, you know, having a foul odor.
	So, you know, that's that's the job of the embalmer.
	But they've been having a devil of a time, especially when they run into a body that's riddled with these clots.
	It's lengthened the time that it takes to do an embalming from about an hour and a half that it used to take before the vaccines to now about two and a half hours when they come in, run into a body that's riddled with the clots.
	And like I said, these embalmers have 20 or 30 years of experience, never saw this phenomenon before the years of COVID or the vaccines.
	The two types of clots they used to see prior to 2020 were what's called grape jelly clots.
	They look just like dark grape jelly, dissolves easily in your hands.
	The other type of clot they used to see and still see is called a chicken fat clot.
	And it's yellowish in color, small, tears very easily.
	Much different than these large white fibrous clots.
	It get real tough and rubbery.
	You know, the embalmers describe them as what looks like calamari and it stretches like a rubber band.
	So it's very, very unusual.
	Calamari indeed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think that's right.
	We have good proof, by the way.
	I've been in touch with myself and Richard Herschman, who is the main embalmer in the Died Suddenly film.
	Richard's been sending samples of the white fibrous colossides removed from corpses to laboratories all over the world.
	One of the teams we're working with is Mr. Greg Harrison out of Sydney, Australia, and he works with university labs in both Europe and in Australia.
	And a whole series of tests have been done on the clots.
	I know Monique had a question about nanotechnology.
	Our teams of scientists have not been looking at from a nanotech perspective.
	They've been looking at it from organic chemistry perspective.
	What we're pretty sure is happening, and we've got strong evidence of it, is that both the phospholipid nanoparticle that carries the mRNA to the cells, you know, from the vaccine, and then also the spiked protein produced by the vaccine or the spiked protein that comes off the virus is combining with our natural blood clotting protein called fibrinogen.
	In fact, I have a photo here for you.
	If I can do a shared screen, I can show the audience visually what we're talking about.
	I think you're already good to share.
	Go for it.
	Let's see.
	As he's doing that, I had a family member who passed away, had cancer, and so he decided to end his life.
	And I had asked the funeral parlor if they had seen any of these clots.
	There was a young undertaker whom I spoke to, and he said quietly, I think so.
	And then he said, but other people have talked about it.
	So I'll be protective and not give the name, but it was in Brumall, Pennsylvania.
	So corroborating your story.
	One of the things we've uncovered, by the way, all these years is, can you see the image now, Dr. Fetzer?
	You can go to full screen.
	If you go up to that top geo, see if you can get it.
	Let me just leave it.
	Let me leave it there because I want to be able to flip back and forth between slides.
	So if your viewers can see on the left, that's what we all have a natural blood clotting protein called fibrinogen, and it's in a liquid form in our blood plasma.
	But whenever we have a cut on your body or damage to the vascular system, then it triggers the conversion of that liquid fibrinogen into a white solid called fibrin.
	And the photo on the left is what it looks like.
	Nice cooked spaghetti noodles.
	And what they do is they form like a net and they collect your red blood cells and your platelets and form a clot at the site of your wound so you don't bleed out to death.
	Then, when that wound's eventually healed, we have another enzyme called plasmin, P-L-A-S-M-I-N, plasmin.
	It comes along, attaches to those nice smooth spaghetti noodles, breaks the clot down, and then you're good to go again.
	But look on the right side of the screen.
	By the way, these photos were taken out of a peer-reviewed paper that appeared in Nature in August of 2024 by Rue and colleagues, R-Y-U and colleagues.
	So, this is a peer-reviewed paper.
	This is what happens when your fibrinogen comes in contact with the spike protein, either from the virus or from the vaccine.
	See what happens there?
	Take a deep breath.
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	We'll be right back after this break with Major Tom Havlin and Monique Lukens talking about fibrous clots caused by the mRNA packs.
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	Well, this is your host, Jim Fetzer, with Major Tom Haviland and Monique Lukens.
	And we're talking about Tom's research into these fibrous clots that are caused by mRNA.
	Go right ahead, Tom.
	Share more.
	Yeah, when we left off before the break, we took a look on the left side of the screen.
	We saw what your natural fibrinogen is supposed to look like when it converts into fibrin used in the normal clotting process.
	Then on the right side of the screen, what Rue and colleagues found when they saw the fibrinogen come in contact with the spiked protein, either from the virus or from the vaccine, it causes these fibrinogen to misfold, become all twisted, get these nasty nodules on it.
	And then our natural enzyme plasmin cannot attach and break down that clot.
	So that's when they tend to persist.
	They first grow into microclots and then they become these large macroclots, also known as these white fibrous clots.
	This slide here, Embalmer Richard Hirschman, sent about a dozen samples of white fibrous clots that he removed from cadavers to a Dr. Kevin McCarran, who's a neuroscientist in Japan.
	And Kevin looked at him under what's called a scanning electron microscope.
	He took a five, very thin five micrometer slice of one of the white fibrous clots, looked at it under a scanning electron microscope at a magnification of 5,000 times.
	And this is what he saw, Dr. Fetzer and Monique.
	Now, does that look more like nice, smooth spaghetti noodles?
	Or does it look more like the twisted misfolded mess with the nasty nodules on it?
	Sure.
	It looks like the latter, right?
	Yeah.
	So this is proof of the microscopic level that our natural blood clotting protein fibrinogen is misfolding, becoming all twisted by the spiked protein, like is it from either the virus or the vaccine?
	And by the way, this is what it looks like when if you back out at a magnification of 1000, this is what you see.
	This is what the clot looks like.
	So it's no wonder that our natural enzyme plasmin cannot break that down.
	This is just a folded matted mess.
	So like I said, that's proof on the microscopic level that the spike protein is indeed the problem.
	And this team, by the way, has done a whole battery of tests on the white fibrous clots.
	One of the first tests they did, Dr. Fetzer, was it's what's called ICPMS, stands for inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry testing.
	And basically what it does is it takes a look and it tells you what elements from the periodic table are in the clots.
	And Mike Adams actually did this work some years ago when he first received one of the clots.
	But Greg Harrison and his team reproduced that same test at a couple of university labs to double check Mike's work.
	And Mike was absolutely correct.
	The white fibrous clots contain very little amounts of normal elements that are seen in high amounts in the normal blood, like magnesium, potassium, and iron.
	You know, for example, iron is what gives blood its red color.
	In fact, they found in a normal red blood, it's about iron's about 50 or 450 parts per million.
	Well, in these white fibrous clots, they only found 20 parts per million of iron.
	So we know that it's not, that's proof that it's not blood coagulating, right?
	So if it was blood coagulating, you'd have 450 parts per million of iron in the blood coagulating.
	Conversely, they found very high amounts of other elements like phosphorus, sulfur, and sometimes even tin in the clots.
	For example, phosphorus is normally in normal blood, it's about anywhere between 100 to 1,000 parts per million.
	Well, in the white fibrous clots, they found phosphorus at a strength of 5,000 parts per million.
	So anywhere from 5 to 50 times as high as what's in normal blood.
	So this helps support this phosphorylation theory that we have.
	Like I said, we believe what's happening is at the moment, the lipid nanoparticles, the phospholipid nanoparticles, they carry the mRNA to the cells all over the body.
	When they open up inside the cell to release the mRNA that's inside from the vaccine, they're exposing their phosphorus heads.
	And that has a great affinity for this natural blood clotting protein that we have called fibrinogen.
	It wants to bind to it.
	And then the spike protein that's produced by the vaccine also becomes phosphorylated and it has a great affinity to bind to the to the fibrinogen in our blood plasma.
	So that's what's causing these nasty white fibrous clots.
	Now, the team of scientists that I've been working with, Monique and Dr. Fetzer, they have not noticed anything, any nanotech in the clots because they've been exploring it and looking at it solely from an organic chemistry perspective.
	Now, that's not, and that, because they're looking at like 10 to the minus six, like, you know, on the scanning electron microscope, the nanotechnology is at 10 to the minus 9.
	So I'm not saying that it's not happening.
	It's just that the team of scientists that we're working with have not seen anything to point towards nanotech.
	A couple of the other tests they've done, by the way, they've done another test called a high-performance liquid chromatography, HPLC testing on it.
	And that tells you what kind of compounds are in the white fibrous clots.
	And one of the interesting things they found is that fibrinogen, that natural blood clotting protein we have, it comes in three separate chains, an alpha, a gamma, and a beta chain.
	And you can think of them as three smaller ropes that when you get a clot form, they intertwine and become that strong fiber.
	So it becomes a stronger, three-stranded rope.
	And in our normal blood, when normal clotting occurs, those alpha, beta, and gamma chains are found in a one-to-one to one ratio.
	What's interesting in these white fibrous clots, it's not a one-to-one ratio.
	They found the beta chain in 36% of the clot is the beta chain.
	16% is the gamma chain, and only 4% is the alpha chain.
	So just further proof that something unusual is happening here, a different kind of reaction is happening than the normal conversion of fibrinogen into the white solid fibrin.
	They've also performed other tests such as Congo red staining, thioflavin T staining.
	These different tests prove that the white fibrous clots were made of what's called amyloid material, A-M-Y-L-O-I-D, which is just a fancy term for a misshaped or misfolded protein.
	By the way, the scientist in Japan, Dr. Kevin McCarran, who looked at the clots, like I said, under that scanning electron microscope, he's highly qualified to do so.
	He's been studying amyloids for the last 20 years because he's been working with amyloid materials associated with Alzheimer's patients, Parkinson's patients, Cruxfield-Jacobs, dementia.
	That's what's causing those diseases is the buildup of amyloid misfolded proteins in people's brains.
	But this is the very first time, what's interesting about this phenomenon, this is the very first time we found this phenomenon in blood vessels, in both veins and arteries.
	And these white fibrous clots and the microclotting are occurring not only on the venous side, but also on the arterial side as well.
	Prior to the pandemic, it was very rare that an embalmer would ever find a clot on the arterial side.
	They almost were exclusively on the venous side.
	But these white fibrous clots occur just as equally on the arterial side as well.
	Very strange phenomenon.
	Fascinating, fascinating.
	I have a dear colleague who's had his blood examined and found, however, a lot of these seeming self-assembling micro devices that you're not finding in the research done in Japan with a 5,000.
	It's fascinating because I've had him on and I see it.
	He's got lots of photographs.
	I'll be featuring him again.
	So I think there's a lot going on here.
	There might be.
	Yeah.
	Because we're not looking, like I said, our team's not looking at the 10 to the minus ninth level, which is your nanotechnology.
	Our team's looking at the 10 to the minus sixth level.
	So, you know, that's a thousand times up.
	But like I said, whichever way you cut it, there's something going on, right?
	Because like I said, the embalmers.
	And also, by the way, you know, I've been in touch with an endovascular specialist and cardiologist from Jacksonville, Florida.
	His name is Dr. Mohana Besherit.
	And he admitted to me in March of 2024, Dr. Fetzer and Monique, that he's been removing these same white fibrous clots from living people for the last five years.
	And what's called a cath lab, yeah, he works in what's called a cath lab where he uses flexible catheters that either suck the clot out, scrape it out, or lasso it and pull it out.
	That's saving their lives.
	Absolutely.
	And we think that's the only way to get these clots out once they formed.
	They've tried the best clot busting drugs.
	One of the best ones is called Tissue Plasmidogen Activator, TPA.
	And it works great against the grape jelly clots, but it has no effect at all on these white fibrous clots.
	So that's why they have to use catheters to remove them once these things have formed.
	So the trick is, is not have them form in the first place.
	Dr. Peter McCullough has a regimen of this natural supplements, natokinase, bromelain, curcumin.
	He is seeing good progress with his patients for helping them to detox this damaging, dangerous spike protein out of the body before it can produce these microclots that then aggregate into these large macro clots or what we call white fibers.
	Yeah, we've got some indication that ivermectin helps as well.
	We've also, I know people have tested with methylene blue, DMSO, chlorine dioxide, quercetin, NAC, lots of different things are being tested.
	EDTA and vitamin C too.
	Yeah, EDTA, vitamin C.
	But the problem is not a lot of formal testing has been done with each of these, you know, treatments to determine exactly what the effect are.
	Now, one of the things that Dr. Kevin McCarran's been using recently is what's called double filtration plasmapheresis.
	You know, plasmapheresis is a process where actually the blood is removed from the body and it's like cleaned in a machine and then put back in the body.
	So it's like circulated through this machine.
	It's similar.
	I think people also go through what's called Eboo treatments, but they've been trying to use this process.
	I'm a little worried about that process.
	I think it probably does work to a certain extent in helping to clean the blood, but I'm also concerned that it could also loosen up any white fibrous clots that might be precariously anchored to parts of the vascular system.
	One of the reasons I say that is a few years ago, there was a bodybuilder from Europe named Joe Lindner.
	And I watched a video of him and he was with another bodybuilder friend of his.
	And they were joking on the couch about how he had taken a bunch of the COVID vaccines.
	And then, you know, he was very persistent about how he checked his blood all the time to make sure it was good for bodybuilding competitions he was going to be in.
	And he noticed his doctor said, what is going on with you?
	Your blood looks horrible.
	So he went and he did a plasma pheresis treatment.
	He did two of them within a span of six months apart from each other.
	And in the second treatment that was done, as the nurse was taking the machine apart to clean it, she saw there was white clot material in the machine.
	And so they were joking about that on the couch.
	But about a month later, Joe Lindner died of a brain aneurysm.
	So I'm afraid that maybe during that second plasma pheresis process, it may have broke loose white fibrous clot material that had been anchored to a more benign part of the vascular system, but then it moved to her critical juncture and gave him a brain aneurysm and killed him.
	So if he hadn't done it, he might have died from it anyway.
	Who knows, right?
	Yes.
	Here's the sad part is university labs.
	You can try to solve a problem and maybe run the risk that it's going to have an unintended effect or not try to solve the problem.
	You may have all the effects you could potentially solve.
	So I think it's a dilemma.
	The problem is, Dr. Fetzer, is that the CDC, the FDA won't even admit there's a problem.
	I've been ignored for the last four years.
	Every year I've had my surveys done, I have immediately reported the results to the FDA, CDC, and NIH.
	Crickets, Dr. Fetzer and Monique.
	They have never come back to me and had any curiosity.
	RFK Jr. is revising the vaccine schedule.
	He might be more open-minded.
	I'd say, keep at it.
	Try again.
	You know, in fact, last August, I actually called Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
	I got Jay's home phone number.
	So I called him on a Saturday night one night.
	I didn't want to bother him too long because he was on his weekend, but I just want to make sure.
	I said, Jay, are you aware of this white fibrous clot problem?
	And in fact, just a couple of months before that, in June of 2025, I was actually invited to be a guest speaker at the Tennessee Funeral Director Association's annual convention.
	Their president Taylor Moore said, Tom, our embalmers are concerned because we're into year five of this now.
	This thing's not going away.
	Come talk to us.
	So I went there and I gave them an hour presentation about the results of my surveys and also at Stanford.
	No, at this was in Nashville at the Tennessee Funeral Directors Association's annual convention, just south of Nashville, Tennessee.
	But then I also took a survey at that convention as well.
	And the Tennessee embalmers at that time were still seeing the white fibrous clots in about 17% of their corpus, about one out of every six dead bodies.
	One of the interesting things there, Dr. Fetzer, is I got further proof that this is happening.
	I actually captured on video footage 18 of 28 embalmers in that room raising their hands, saying they were indeed seeing the white fibrous clots in the year 2025.
	So we have so much overwhelming evidence this is happening.
	Like I said, Mr. Woody Wilson, the president of the Ohio Embalmers Association, says he's seen the white fibrous clots.
	Mr. Chris Calvey Jr., the former president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association, says he's seen the clots.
	Mr. Kevin Swire, the president of the Manitoba Canada Funeral Service Association, says he's seeing the clots.
	And of course, Taylor Moore, the president of the Tennessee Funeral Directors Association, also admitted to seeing the clots.
	In fact, this last Thanksgiving, I came across a video interview between two gentlemen.
	One was a Mr. Bob Sennett and another one was Mr. Dana Goodell.
	And Dana, by the way, sits currently on the board of the Iowa Funeral Directors Association.
	And they talked for the last six minutes of their interview about the fact they're seeing the clots.
	All the embalmers they talked to are seeing the clots.
	But then they confirmed that when they get together in these associations and their conventions and their Facebook pages and things, that it's a taboo subject.
	They don't want to talk about it publicly.
	You know, that's why we've only seen, we've only seen a few like Richard Hirschman and funeral director John O'Looney come out publicly and talk about the white fibrous clots.
	Because it's so anomalous, ought to be the number one topic on their agenda.
	It ought to be all over their Facebook pages and everywhere.
	Yes.
	Especially when it's happening like Zen in 20 to 30% of corpses.
	This is not a rare phenomenon.
	And so it's a new threat to humanity and to American citizens, and they damn well should be talking about it.
	Absolutely.
	Monique?
	I wanted to make a quick point.
	Someone I went to school with is a cancer researcher at an Ivy League.
	When I started reading about the turbo cancer, I had sent off a little nervous, but I sent some articles to him at the school email.
	No response.
	Knew that he was looking at them.
	I continued to send them.
	I only heard from him maybe a year or so later when someone we knew passed away or died suddenly.
	I think she maybe had a heart attack.
	Only 50 years old.
	She was in wonderful shape when I knew her in high school on the swim team.
	And then I want to state that I had continued giving him articles, crickets.
	And then there was one thing that I had sent that was like a personal thing that was going on in his neck of the woods.
	Oh, thank you.
	So I'm just telling you, he didn't want to talk about anything with turbo cancer.
	I gave him William Maccus.
	If you know him, Dr. Maccus is nothing, nothing.
	So I'm like, what is going on?
	I'm like, please speak out crickets.
	And that's the way they're in the graveyard.
	Yeah, they're whistling past the graveyard, aren't they, Monique?
	And I understand, you know, if you took the shots, you do want to kind of, but you don't want to talk about it because it's a sore subject because you're worried to a certain extent.
	Did I do damage to my body?
	Did I do damage to my immune system?
	Am I going to be a higher candidate for cancer now?
	Because they know that the shots didn't work.
	And most people have stopped taking them because they said, hey, I caught COVID anyways.
	I transmitted to others.
	There's no reason to take the shots.
	So most Americans have stopped taking them.
	But there is that thing in the back of their mind and they just want to move on.
	They don't want to talk about it.
	But the problem is these clots are still around in 2025.
	They're not going away.
	And the shots are still on the market.
	The mRNA is still on the market.
	And our team of scientists that have looked at this, Monique and Dr. Fetzer, are pretty confident that the virus itself was a bioengineered weapon.
	Oh, yeah.
	It basically is a best of decades of research by not just the Chinese, but by the Russians and Americans as well.
	The Russians have been working on blood clotting agents for decades.
	The Chinese and Americans have been working on viruses that better escape the immune system and also replicate faster.
	And basically what we think has happened is SARS-CoV-2, the virus, was a best of of all three of those things, promoting blood clotting, immune evasion, and viral replication more quickly.
	And unfortunately, that darn sequence in what's called open reading frames or ORFs was translated into the vaccines as well because they use the entire length of the spike protein, which is the very damaging part of the virus.
	So, and I think they did it knowingly.
	They should, if they didn't know, they should have known that all of these side effects were going to occur based upon use of the full spike protein.
	So, we have strong evidence that we think that it was intentional.
	And that's unfortunate, isn't it?
	Is that Boduro is ahead of Pfizer?
	I think in 2023, he was saying our intention, our plan was to reduce the population of Earth by 50%.
	That's four people, Tom.
	He was talking about the plan to wipe out four billion, billion.
	And they're so brazen too.
	They know that they've created a lot of, as Monique talked about, turbo cancers with these COVID vaccines.
	But then they went ahead and they bought, they purchased a lot of cancer companies, and now they plan on coming out with cancer drugs to treat the cancer that they cause themselves.
	It's a perfect business model, right?
	You come up with something that injures the population, a virus that injures the population.
	You get the government to mandate people take vaccines, and then you get to treat the side effects that are caused by the vaccines.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	That's the American model.
	Are they making the cancer vaccine?
	I think that's the thing, the cancer vaccine.
	What about it?
	They're making a cancer vaccine, I believe.
	They're working on all kinds of everything they've got in the future, Monique, is planned using the mRNA technology, using the phospholipid nanoparticle delivery system.
	Well, at least I want to state that BARDA is no longer involved with that mRNA.
	The COVID shot has been taken off of that site.
	Are you familiar with BARDA?
	Yeah, they canceled, I think, about a half a billion dollars worth of contracts, right?
	About $500 million worth of contracts.
	So, you know, some progress is being made, and I'm happy about that.
	But when I see things like this last week, like, oh my gosh, we've adjusted the food pyramid and now meat and milk are on top of the food pyramid again.
	I think about this is a deflection.
	We're ignoring the main thing here.
	We're ignoring these COVID vaccines that are still out there on the shelves available for people.
	And by the way, I think about in the 2025-2026 version of the vaccine, parents have given that to 7% of kids have taken that shot.
	The good news is 93% of parents have figured it out and not given it to their kids.
	But 7% of children are still getting the COVID jabs.
	And about 15% of American adults.
	So there's still this uninformed part of our population out there that live in an information bubble that don't recognize these things are actually dangerous and not helpful at all.
	Tom, have you been looking into the so-called shedding phenomenon where the unvaxxed are being contaminated by the vax?
	Can you address that?
	Yeah, we have pretty good proof that's happening.
	I've talked to Dr. Pierre Corey and his medical partner, Scott Marsland.
	I met them back late last year at a conference, and they said that's definitely happening.
	Also, I know from Dr. Jordan Vaughan, who runs a clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, where he treats people with microclotting and white fibrous clots as well.
	That it's definitely a thing.
	We're concerned about the blood supply as well, because a lot of people that have taken the vaccines have donated blood to the American Red Cross.
	The pain isn't screening, is it?
	No, no, it's not.
	So we think that the blood supply is tainted.
	I'm in contact with a gentleman named Clinton Ohlers.
	He represents a company called Safe Blood, where they actually will match donor recipients, unvaccinated donor recipients to unvaccinated blood donors, which is a wonderful service to have.
	Because a lot of people these days, if you go in for a surgery, you want to make sure if you're unvaccinated that you get unvaccinated blood.
	I had open heart surgery, so I donated my own blood beforehand so they could use it during the surgery, which they did.
	Wow.
	Now, in terms of the shedding thing, a paper came out in October of 2025.
	It was out of Israel.
	It was a small study.
	They took a look at 22 women, pregnant women.
	And of the 22 women, 16 of them had been vaccinated.
	They had taken Pfizer.
	Remember, Israel, almost the whole population there took Pfizer.
	Well, I bet they had miscarriages.
	Yeah.
	And they found in 11 of the 16 women, they found the mRNA from the vaccine in both their blood and their placenta as few as 25 days after the last injection, all the way to 250 days after their last injection.
	So this tells us a couple of things.
	It tells us, first of all, that Fauci and Burks and Big Pharma, they lied to us, right?
	They said that the shot would stay in your deltoid muscle in your upper arm.
	But we know now it goes everywhere, right?
	Those lip and nanoparticles carry it to the family jewels.
	That's how they found it in the placenta.
	Okay.
	So, and then also they lied to us when they told us that the mRNA would only last for two days to a week, produce just enough spike protein to elicit an immune response.
	Like I said, they found the mRNA from the vaccine in the blood and placentas of these women as much as 250 days after their last injection.
	Now, what was interesting is there were six women in that study who were unvaccinated, and they found the mRNA from the vaccine in three of them, in the blood of three of them.
	There's only one way that could happen, right?
	Through shedding.
	So my theory there is that their partner, their male partner that got them pregnant, probably had taken the vaccine, right?
	And it's shed upon his female partner who had been unvaccinated.
	They also have a lot of people.
	Tom, it's wonderful having you here.
	You're so articulate and knowledgeable.
	I'm simply delighted.
	Glad to have you back.
	We'll return to our conversation with Tom Haviland and Monique Lucas right after this break.
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	Major Tom is Dr. Fetzer is coming back.
	He said I could play this.
	You had mentioned Israel, and Nedan Yahoo, when everyone was being PCR tested, stated this: Give me a saliva sample, volunteer.
	But I'm sure most people would do it.
	Maybe we'll pay them.
	Now we have a genetic record on a medical record of a robust population.
	It's got you have to have diversified populations.
	We have people from 100 lands.
	This is a very powerful engine.
	Now, now let pharma companies, let medical companies, let them run algorithms on this database.
	Okay, I'm telling you right away that I'll give preference for a few years to Israeli firms, but you can create, and then to the world, but you can create a biotechnological industry that is unheard of right now, unheard of, unimagined, even.
	And these are just the examples.
	We can become a lot off Iran, become a light unto the nations in groundbreaking.
	Yeah, he mentions Pfizer too.
	Disgraceful.
	Unheard of in its criminality and sadistic implication for the future of humanity.
	I mean, this is grotesque.
	Tom, would you agree?
	Your thoughts?
	Well, yeah, I know there's accusations out there that the COVID virus, the SARS-CoV-2 virus, was designed to be more harmful to some races than others.
	And we think that is a definite possibility.
	I know RFK Jr. has also talked to that and mentioned that, and he's been hammered for it.
	But it is quite possible because when you're man-made designing a virus, like I said, to, you know, for clotting, for viral escape, and for replication, there are certain ways that you can mess with it in order to make it more damaging to one type of race than the other.
	So I'm not dismissing that whatsoever.
	I have no proof that's happened or happening, but I can't say the other way either.
	That is not a problem.
	The Ukrainian biolabs were working on Russian DNA.
	They want to have a Russian-specific bio-wab.
	There must be, I don't know, 18 of them.
	This was one of the reasons that Putin went into Ukraine that the mainstream media will not report.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's why I think a lot of people who actually did, you know, 23andMe over the last, you know, 10, 20 years, remember that were you getting to see?
	I think a lot of them are regretting now they did 23andMe because they're wondering how are they using my DNA sample that I sent to them.
	You know, a lot of the people probably are regretting, as you mentioned earlier, Monique, putting that large stick, long stick up their nose to be tested for COVID with those PCR tests.
	I refuse.
	I never did any of those stick up the nose tests.
	Yeah.
	Well, I got to tell you, I was assaulted my nose before I knew it.
	You know, I mean, they just boom, right?
	There it was, right?
	Stuck up my nose.
	I couldn't believe it.
	Oh, man.
	Can you hear me?
	I just froze.
	What were you saying, Monique?
	Yeah, I froze.
	I was saying that a doctor assaulted me with one of them up my nose.
	I had breathed something in from the air condition, and I had lost a lot of weight some years ago.
	I got ill, not from COVID, but anyway, my mother was in the room exam room with me, and I didn't want to take a CT scam with the contrast because I had heard that's very dangerous.
	So this doctor, he starts putting a PCR up my nose, not for COVID, but for what had happened.
	And I asked, are you going to have to put that very far?
	And he said yes.
	So I took my hand, I clenched his arm, pushed it away, and he pushed it right back and up my nose.
	I was so upset, felt so violated.
	He did the other nostril too.
	And for two weeks, I could feel it.
	It took me two years to report that because my family member liked him.
	You know, oh, he was doing his job.
	Anyway, to this day, that was at the end of 2021.
	To this day, I still think, was there anything on that swab?
	You know, would he even know?
	I'd liken it to a mini rape.
	I mean, a violation of your body that's on the bottom.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So I did report it to the medical board of the state of New Jersey.
	I had you froze.
	Yes, he froze on me.
	You know, Monique.
	Yeah, this man meant any harm, but it still bothers me.
	We understand, Monique.
	And it should bother you.
	They did you wrong.
	Absolutely.
	You know, and the medical profession has been so arrogant over the last few years, especially, you know, telling everybody safe and effective without really looking into these vaccines whatsoever.
	They're safe nor effective.
	And now they're in a pickle because they know the shots have caused a lot of damage.
	They took the shots themselves.
	They recommended them to their patients and friends.
	So it's hard for them to go back and say now that they made a mistake when they recommended them.
	And that's part of the problem.
	That's why a lot of people I've had a hard time getting people to take my surveys.
	I tried to run a Cath Lab worker survey last in 2024 and also in 2025 with vascular surgeons, cardiologists, endovascular specialists across the United States.
	Guess how many of them took my survey?
	Zero.
	Zero.
	None.
	I sent the survey to the vascular surgery societies in the United States, Canada, UK, and Australia, New Zealand.
	I also sent it to 120 vascular surgeons directly across the United States.
	I got one response in an email from the Society for Vascular Surgery here in the U.S. They're located headquartered in Rosemont, Illinois, and they brag on their website of having over 6,300 member vascular surgeons all across the U.S.
	They refused to take my survey.
	And what is important about that, Monique and Dr. Fetzer, is unlike the embalmers who don't usually have access to the COVID vaccination records of their corpses, these doctors do have the access to the COVID vaccination records of all their patients, their live patients.
	They can tell you how many shots they took, what brand they took, when they took their last COVID vaccine.
	So they could have given us valuable information for whenever they were finding the white fibrous clots.
	Did that person take a COVID vaccine or not?
	And what brand, when they took them and that kind of thing.
	But they refused to take my surveys.
	It was very disheartening.
	You can't get information out of these people.
	Now, there was a whistleblower in addition to Dr. Mohana Besherit, the Cath Lab doctor that I found, who admitted to me, he'd been pulling these same white fibrous clots out of living people for the last five years.
	Dr. Philip McMillan, who runs a YouTube channel in the UK called Vegian Health, V-E-J-O-N.
	Dr. McMillan found his own Cath Lab doctor, another doctor, also from the United States, and he did a 52-minute substack interview with them.
	And during this interview, this doctor said that he's been removing anywhere between three to 10 of these white fibrous clots out of living people every week in his one cath lab alone.
	Yeah.
	And he says that whenever he finds the white fibrous clots, that person's been jabbed with anywhere between one to eight COVID jabs.
	And the more jabs they've taken, the worse the clotting seems to be.
	So, but then he went dark on Dr. McMillan as well.
	Somebody got to him and shut him up, just like my whistleblower went dark on me.
	Dr. Beshert, he sent me an email in late March of 2024 saying, Tom, I've been instructed to terminate communications immediately.
	Sorry for the inconvenience.
	So, his hospital administrator probably got to him, said, Shut up about this.
	Don't talk about it, or else we'll go after your board certifications, your licenses, you know, the same way they went after Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Pierre Corey, Dr. Ryan Cole.
	And so, it's effectively shut these people up.
	And I get it.
	They want to have a career.
	But, you know, at the same time, if these doctors, vascular surgeons, endovascular specialists, cardiologists, as well as the embalmers and funeral directors, don't tell us what's happening inside the veins and arteries of people.
	We don't know, right?
	Because they're the only ones that see what's going on inside your veins and arteries.
	So the general public is blind, all this, but it's happening.
	Monique, you had a whole host of questions for Tom.
	Are there any on your list you'd like to bring up at this point in time?
	I think Monique froze again.
	Okay.
	Tom is just so articulate.
	I mean, no wonder they might want to suppress you.
	You are taking you get that pointed cross.
	It's effortless.
	I don't know what's going on with Venezuela.
	I don't know what's going on with Minnesota right now and the Somalis, but I can't.
	But I do know one thing I know about these clots, Dr. Fetzer, because I've been studying these.
	And this is my one subject I've been on for the last four years.
	And the reason I do it is because, like I said, the CDC, the FDA, are not doing it.
	They could have run their own surveys with embalmers and funeral director associations all around the country.
	In fact, the funeral director associations themselves could have run their own surveys, right?
	The FDA and the CDC could have been talking to vascular surgeons and cardiologists, saying, What are you seeing in your operating rooms?
	But they're not.
	So myself and Laura Kasmer, my associate, are the only two that are tracking both the timing and the prevalence of these unusual white fibrous clots and this microclotting issue.
	So you're doing a great job.
	I'm very impressed, very happy we got you back on.
	And I think I understand why you got cut off before.
	They don't want you to have a platform to get this out to the public.
	You know, it's interesting you mentioned that, Dr. Fetcher, because I've gone on a lot of minor shows, but I've been trying to get in on like, you know, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Beck, Megan Kelly.
	They won't have me on their show, which is really good.
	Maybe try Stew Peters or Clayton Red.
	I've been on Stu.
	I've been on Stu, and I've been on Alex Jones's show.
	They've had me on.
	So God bless them.
	Yeah, they're coming forward with the.
	I've been on Redacted News with Clayton Morris and his wife, Natalie.
	I actually, myself and Richard Hirschman did a full measure TV show with Cheryl Atkinson several years ago where we talked about the clots.
	So that was pretty good exposure from Cheryl.
	I've also been on Dr. John Campbell's YouTube channel.
	He's a big YouTuber over in the UK.
	One of the interviews I did with him, for example, had 2.2 million views.
	But back in September of 2024, I went to, I paid $1,600 of my own money to go meet Tucker Carlson in person in a VIP meet and greet during his tour that he was doing a show in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
	So I went there with my sister and I paid $1,600 so I could have 30 seconds with Tucker.
	And I have a photo of me, in fact, a couple of photos taken with Tucker of me showing him the white fibrous clots.
	I gave him that vial of the clots.
	I gave another vial to his producer, Samantha, and information about me in order to have me on his show.
	Tucker does not want to put me on his show.
	I've also been in contact with Megan Kelly's booker, Ms. Allison Jordan.
	And she sent back a last email saying, Tom, well, you know, we're not interested in having you on the show right now.
	It's really bizarre because Megan herself was injured by the COVID vaccine.
	She has an autoimmune disorder that was caused by the COVID vaccine.
	Wouldn't you think she'd want to, you know, have me on to talk about this?
	This is the most spectacular side effect, right?
	There's nothing.
	I must interject here.
	So, Dr. Anna Mahalcha, I was listening to a show recorded a month ago, and she's talking about mind control and whatnot.
	I'm just wondering if people are mind-controlled not to say anything.
	I know that that might sound a little bit out there.
	You know, it's mainly probably because people don't want their jobs threatened or whatnot.
	But me personally, I feel like every day, everyone's living a lie until all of this comes out and is at and actually is something is being done on a massive level.
	Like Dr. Mahalcha, her office, she does infusions.
	I'm uncertain what she's putting into people.
	Maybe EDTA and vitamin C. I'm imagining that.
	But I don't know.
	She's in Yelm, Washington.
	If anyone is interested, like Dr. Fetzer said, his colleague went up there.
	She'll do a Zoom with people.
	You give a sample of your blood and then you could take it from there.
	I mean, it is expensive, but maybe you could do it somewhere else too.
	There are infusion places around.
	But the fact of the matter is, like you're saying, it needs to come out because people don't know what to do.
	I mean, in my family, like I said, my cousin, he got turbo cancer.
	They took the vaccine.
	I don't think that my aunt has a clue.
	And, you know, what am I supposed to do?
	Say that people get upset and whatnot.
	So I feel like we're all living a lie.
	Keep speaking.
	You're absolutely right, Monique.
	And a couple other reasons I think are happening is, you know, like I said, the embalmers now, in my latest survey that I ran right here just a few weeks ago, the end of 2025, to see what the embalmers were, I only got 59 responses to my most recent survey compared to 301 I got in my 2024 survey.
	So it was a drastic reduction in responses by embalmers to that survey.
	And I think what's happening is the embalmers are ashamed now.
	And so are the funeral directors because they know this, we're into year five of this now.
	And if they come out and admit now that, oh, yeah, I'm seeing the white fibrous cloths, the first question people are going to ask them is, oh, that's great.
	You're coming out and saying you're seeing them now.
	But where were you five years ago when you were seeing them and shut up and didn't say anything?
	So they're ashamed of their silence for all those years.
	And I also still think there's a liability thing going on here, too, right?
	Funeral directors who mandated that their employees of their funeral home take the COVID-19 vaccine.
	Why would they want to participate in a survey that shows a link between the COVID vaccines and these white fibrous clots?
	You might be setting yourself up for liability suit, right?
	One of your employees of your funeral home, like your embalmer, gets injured by the jabs, they can sue you.
	I think there's a lot of concern of that very kind, Tom.
	I think that's very widespread.
	Now, Monique had a rather interesting little show she sent me about education.
	The kind of education she could get behind.
	I want to share it with everyone.
	It is very nice.
	This is like a kindergarten class where the teacher is actually speaking, telling the kids the truth.
	I'll get the sound going.
	What I can do is study flying or something.
	Yeah, let's go.
	And maybe someday I want to back it up.
	There we go.
	I want to be an astronaut.
	Well, you want to be an astronaut?
	Well, that's great.
	You can be an astronaut.
	All you have to do is study flying or science.
	And maybe someday you could be the first astronaut to walk on the moon.
	No, there already was an astronaut who first walked on the moon.
	Well, no, not really.
	That wasn't real.
	See, there was this thing called the Cold War.
	And in order to beat the Russians, we kind of faked that.
	That never happened.
	See how there's no windows on the side?
	And see underneath where there's like a pod thing?
	What's that, right?
	Take a look at this wreckage.
	See how there's no plane parts on the ground there?
	What does that look like?
	A method.
	You see, President Bush was in a secret society at Yale called The Skull and Bones.
	His dad was too.
	And they all worship Satan.
	Isn't that wonderful?
	That's funny.
	I would love to do that.
	And Major Tom, you know, during the time it was 2021, I had told a parent that this was all planned because she was getting upset.
	There was switching of classes and whatnot.
	And she's like, oh, I guess it's the pandemic.
	And I said, well, this is planned and you should look up Dr. Reiner Fjumick.
	Well, she called, told them that I'm a weird anti-vaxxer, that she had looked me up online.
	I was out of a job for three weeks.
	That's the only way that I knew how to tell her about the medical stuff, which I couldn't because I could get in a lot of trouble for voicing any opinion about medical since I'm not a doctor.
	But I did do my best.
	And then I remember one child said that they needed to go early to get the vaccine.
	And all I could say is be careful.
	I was so wondered about that child for about two years.
	I was emailing his regular teacher, you know, is such and such okay?
	So it, I really got sucked into this big time because I was watching all these people disappear off of YouTube in April of 2020, including Dr. Butar, who was poisoned.
	And he's no longer with us today.
	He, hero, Tom, if you don't know who he is, he was stating where the virus was made in the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
	He had hundreds of thousands of people watching him, and the videos would be pulled down.
	And then, of course, Dr. Francis Boyle, who wrote the act or law about the biological weapons and whatnot, he put his name to an affidavit and stated, yes, it is for Dr. Joseph Sandstone, who states, Dr. Joseph, that he had a heart attack from shedding.
	So, anyway, but Dr. Boyle is no longer with us, and people speculate maybe something happened to him because he was going to testify at that court case over in Holland, which you're probably familiar with.
	Yes, Bullet 2.
	I mean, isn't he gone as well?
	I believe he is.
	Yeah, you make a good point, Mooney.
	You know, it causes confusion with the American public.
	There's a big information war going on right now.
	And Americans don't know what to believe, what not to believe.
	You know, they hear stories about like UFOs.
	They hear, what do I believe about Minnesota?
	What do I believe about Venezuela?
	What do I believe about Ukraine?
	And it's just so much information out there on both sides.
	So that's why when I go on shows, I try to make sure that I'm very careful about what I say.
	I make sure I show the visual proof that this thing is happening, that I mention the names of the people that are involved who said they are seeing this phenomenon.
	You know, like Woody Wilson, president of the Ohio Involveders Association, Chris Cowley, president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association, Taylor Moore, president of the Tennessee Funeral Directors Association, Mohana Basheret, the endobascular specialist in Florida who says he's seeing these.
	I do that because I want to make sure people understand they can double check on me.
	They don't have to believe me.
	They could, you know, find out from these people straight away whether or not they're, like I said, what I'm saying is true, that they are indeed seeing this phenomenon that they've never seen before.
	And that also includes the, of course, the six or seven embalmers in the Died Suddenly movie, including, you know, embalmer Richard Hirschman.
	And then the video I just found recently with Bob Sinnett and Dana Goodell, Dana board member of the Iowa Funeral Directors Association.
	So I have provided overwhelming evidence that this isn't occurring.
	This is not a fluke.
	It was not happening prior to 2020.
	It's happening now.
	Only two things have really changed, the COVID virus and the COVID vaccines, right?
	So it has to be either one or both of them.
	They have the same thing in common.
	They both have the damaging spiked protein in common, which is causing this phenomenon.
	We have a team of scientists that have a solid theory and evidence of what's happening that's driving the formation of these things.
	So to me, it's a slam dunk.
	And the only thing that needs to be done now is for the CDC, FDA, and NIH to recognize that and then take steps to help mitigate the problem.
	And the first mitigation step should be removing the COVID vaccines from the market, period.
	I encourage you to go back and try RFK Jr. again.
	I think there's an opening here that didn't exist in the past.
	We will.
	I won't give up, Dr. Fetzer.
	Persistence is the one thing I've got.
	So I'm impressed.
	You show a lot of discipline, a lot of intelligence, a lot of dedication.
	I really love it.
	Mokin, Monique, I'm so happy you encouraged me to bring back Tom here to give it another go and your efforts as well, Monique.
	If you'd like to add a few thoughts here as we draw to a conclusion.
	I do.
	I think that's a great idea, Major Tom.
	I'm a little bit on the fence with the administration.
	They do some good things.
	They do some not so good things.
	You mentioned about the food pyramid, right?
	That inverted triangle, as you're like making mention like that, that's Masonic.
	So I don't know what's going on.
	Dr. Fetzer, I had given you also a video.
	Maybe you could give it to the BitChute or wherever you put this up.
	Maduro, he's like making the signs, the Masonic.
	So is Donald Trump.
	I don't know what's going on with these people.
	I mean, this says, let me read the title.
	And this is from Russian Vids.
	You like that brand.
	The Nicholas Maduro Capture Exposed Masonic World Stage Theater.
	So as you were saying, Major Tom, it's difficult to know what to believe, but we do need to come out with what is being seen.
	And then I gather people need to make their own decision because there is an info war going on.
	Alex Jones got that right.
	Thank you so much for being on the show and telling people.
	And I believe the government should all be giving us vitamin transfusions.
	And you need to do an interview with Dr. Anna Mahalta if you can.
	I think that you two would be like a great team.
	Dr. Fetzer, bring them on both at the same time if you can.
	And Officer Danny, too.
	I know he wants her on there because he did a presentation on how she helped him.
	Wonderful, Monique.
	Tom, a final thought?
	Just if people want to follow my work over the last four years, they can go to my wonderful assistant, Miss Laura Kasner, as a free substack.
	We don't charge for it.
	And we affectionately call it clotastrophe.
	And you can find it at Laura L-A-U-R-A.
	Actually, I see we got a couple of minutes more.
	Take us, Sarah.
	Do a screen share.
	Take us, Sarah.
	Can I do that?
	Let's see if I can do it.
	Do it, Tom.
	If people go to, like I say, Laura Kasner, K-A-S-N-E-R.substack.com.
	Let's try it.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Let's see.
	That might be it.
	Oops, that's not it.
	Sorry.
	That's a that's an interview that Richard Hirschman and I did.
	Let me scroll down here.
	There we go.
	Clotastrophe.
	That's the latest article.
	Can you see it on your screen?
	We got it.
	That's the latest article we have concerning the 2025 survey we just ran.
	Other articles involved the results of our 2025 survey.
	Like I said, there's a they can see the two embalmers I was talking about earlier from Iowa that said they were seeing the white fibrous clots.
	And an interview that Richard Hirschman and I, embalmer Richard Hirschman from Alabama did with Dr. Philip McMillan.
	Excellent.
	Yeah, all kinds of different articles.
	Let's see what else we have.
	My phone call is Dr. J. Bhattacharya.
	See all kinds of articles on there.

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