Welcome back, everyone, to False Flags and Conspiracies Conference 2025.
We are blessed to have with us today Dave Hodges from the Common Sense Show.
And he's going to give us a great presentation to kick off our Charlie Kirk evening.
That's what I'm calling it now.
And I'm sure Charlie is watching us from wherever he's at, whether it's heaven or the Bahamas or who knows where Charlie's at.
But I hope he's appreciating the fact that we're all examining what happened to him and we're trying to get the word out about what the different angles that are taking place because of Charlie's great works.
So I want to tell you a little bit about Dave Hodges before we get started here.
He is the founder and the voice of the Common Sense Show and it started in 2012, it says here.
I thought it was longer than that.
Well, I got a website in 2012, but I actually started in about 2004 when I was fighting to save my community's property rights against John McCain.
That's right.
I remember all this.
And so he's, let me just read this quickly to you.
He features a wide variety of important topics that range from the loss of constitutional liberties, which is how the show started, to the subsequent implementation of a police state under world governance to exploring the limits of human potential.
There we go.
What a great kickoff there for you, Dave.
So you take it away, and I'll give you a countdown near the end.
And here we go with the Charlie Kirk evening with Dave Hodges.
Thank you so much.
And my thanks to Dr. Jim Fetzer for having me on.
And I was saying before we came on, he was one of my first guests on my radio show, and I started at the top.
But it was with great sadness that I'm doing this.
I have a real hard time, even to this day, three months after the fact, watching old tapes of Charlie.
He was so masterful, so good, but so kind and compassionate, but forceful when he had to be.
He was a generational talent, and he can't be replaced.
And I want to give a disclaimer here before we start.
After Charlie was killed, I was so distraught.
I came out the next day and I said, there's already conspiracy theories forming.
I spent 30 years on JFK.
I'm not going to go through this again.
And so we need to produce 1 million Charlie Kirks, and that's how many it'll take to make up for the loss.
And we'll push forward and teach our young adults about First Amendment, freedom of speech, the importance to be involved, the importance to be tolerant of other people's views, all the things that Charlie stood for.
But within five days, I began to see the holes in the investigation.
And I think my JFK experience really sensitized me to seeing this.
And it was on the third day that I just said, I don't think I can sit idly by and let these lies be perpetrated on the public.
So it took a couple more days.
I talked to my family.
I talked to some of my friends and colleagues.
And I said, I wasn't going to go here, but now I have to.
Dave, I just want to quickly interrupt.
People are saying your volume's a little low.
Can you turn up your microphone input for me a little bit?
Thank you.
Okay.
Is that any better?
Let's see, one, two, three.
Yeah, a little bit louder, please.
I've got it almost, that's 100%.
Okay.
Well, we'll take what we can get.
It'll have to work.
Thank you.
Okay.
Well, I'll speak up.
Okay.
Being the big mouth I am, it won't be any problem.
Anyway, I am Dave Hodges of the Common Sense Show.
And I just wanted to go through very quickly what we're going to try to accomplish here today.
And I had had this originally on PowerPoint on our studio computer.
And let's just say I had a malfunction.
And so fortunately, I had backed this up on Word on my laptop.
So you're getting a less quality presentation, but this basically the same material.
For my purposes here, talking about Charlie, I've divided this up into four themes and motifs.
And they're derived from claims that contain forensic inconsistencies, organizational betrayals, institutional suppression, and broader motives from TPUSA and foreign actors.
And like I said, I'm an unwilling participant, but I'm not doing Charlie justice if I turn the other cheek and just let these lies continue to be perpetrated and the obviously guilty parties to get away with what they did.
So let's just take a look real quick here.
I don't spend a lot of time on the forensics because of the fact that I don't have to.
The bad forensics convicts themselves.
This is so much simpler than the JFK assassination.
I've been to a number of snipers, spec ops, Green Beretics, ex-snipers in the Marine Corps.
And they all say the same thing: eight-degree slope from the roof to Charlie.
And there's no way that happened because he would have had dental and facial damage.
And there's no way, absolutely no way that could have happened.
And then, of course, you've got the 30-ott six.
And it's interesting, there's a young lady, she's about 17 in my neighborhood.
I was having a casual conversation with her and some other people.
And she had just got hunting and she took down a bull moose.
And I said, what'd you use to take it down?
And she said, a 30-ott six.
And then she started giggling.
She goes, oh, I know you're looking at Charlie Kirk.
And she said, there's no way he was shot with a 30-odd six.
No one believes that fiction.
And then you've got this Dr. Trotter from the hospital.
They took Charlie to.
Oh, his bone structure was so good.
Guess he drank a lot of milk that the bone didn't penetrate the strength of his bone, saved lives behind it.
What a bunch of nonsense.
What a bunch of nonsense.
So right there, the forensics of what we're being fed is nonsense.
And we don't have anything but grainy videos of Lee Harvey, Oswald, Tyler, James Robinson.
It's crazy.
So let me get down to a couple more things here at the scene.
What you see up here is Decoy Boy, as I call him, George Zinn.
He's CIA, at least he's minimum contract agent.
He dropped out of college and he went to the Washington, D.C., Langley, Virginia area to do his Mormon mission.
And we know that the CIA heavily recruits in Utah.
And later on in his whatever career he was doing, it's still obscured.
He phoned in a fake bomb threat to the Boston Marathon bombing before the bomb actually went off.
He didn't get prosecuted.
He called in another bomb threat in another event.
He testified in the 9-11 debacle.
I mean, wherever there's tragedy, George Zinn seems to show up.
Now, I don't mean to gross anybody out, but you can see here in the photo that George's drawers are dropped and he's just having his underwear on from the waist down.
When Charlie was shot, he immediately stood up, dropped his drawers, and yelled, I did it, I did it, I did it.
And you can see now the police eventually are carrying him off.
Okay, he did a distraction from the crime scene.
And it was, I think, to draw attention away from the crime scene tampering that TPUSA was engaged in.
And I'll talk about that in a minute.
But there were definitely crime scene violations that are felonies.
And I believe he was drawing attention away from that.
And he also admitted to the police, and I can't believe the police actually were honest enough to come out with this.
They said that he said, I was paid or will be paid to create a distraction.
So he admits that he's complicit in the assassination as an after-the-fact distraction.
Absolutely incredible, yet we're supposed to believe this was a lone nut assassin that were always fed that nonsense.
You know, Tyler James Robinson, just like Lee Harvey Oswald, Sir Hans Arhan, there's always a lone nut and there's always a trail that follows them of written or digital material.
Okay, now here's what's really interesting about the George Zinn situation.
Okay.
How could he be a distraction for someone who's shooting 140 yards away from a rooftop?
It makes no sense.
He was close to the front of the stage.
He wasn't a distraction from that.
He was a distraction from taking down the camera.
And I'll say, I'll get into all that.
Okay, now the authorities have tried to put this on left-wing Antifa nonsense.
And I'm sure they're going to come up with digitized fakes in the trial.
There was no real autopsy performed and Utah law requires one for homicides.
The body was transported in an SUV, not an ambulance.
And here's my question.
You have thousands of people at this event, and you don't have any medical standbys.
That's unheard of.
I mean, you know, I have hosted in my days of being a college coach, and I hosted the biggest high school off-season league in the state, 30 teams, and we would probably have three, 400 people at a time in our gym.
And I had to have medical on standby.
This is standard procedure for any kind of crowd, yet they didn't have any.
Where were the EMTs?
Where were the medical personnel?
Instead, TPUS, GPUSA picks up the body and carries them out to an SUV where they don't drive to the closest hospital.
They drive to the one in the area that's the furthest away.
And they applied no aid whatsoever at the scene.
And I know Jim sent me something that said, Dave, what about the no blood?
Yeah, I think that's becoming a factor.
I really do think it's a factor.
And I think it speaks to the MO of how Charlie was killed.
I'll get into that a little later.
But with regard to the actual crime scene behavior, if Charlie was shot, there should have been suppression of the wound, perhaps CPR, certainly chest compressions, but there was nothing.
They just picked up the body and left.
And it's unbelievable.
The video evidence, Tyler Robinson can't be identified.
I don't care how many times they say it's him.
I can't see it.
No one else who is reasonable can see it.
But we have anomalies like the brown shirt guy firing a palm pistol.
I don't accept that.
I don't think that's accurate, but that is believed by a lot of people.
The method of assassination includes a shooter.
Some people say from Charlie's left side.
Here's the one that I think has the greatest possibility of being true, but I have to admit, I'm not sure.
A microphone that electrocuted him.
And I'm beginning to look at that.
And this would explain no blood.
There are conflicting reports with Charlie's wedding ring, was it partially melted?
And I keep reading that over and over, and I can't confirm that that's true.
But if this was a microphone hit, this is very similar to what the Massad did to Hamas leaders.
And it fits right in with the Mossad MO.
But I have to say here, and I put right here, these statements are still unproven.
I'm not sure about the MO at this time.
I am sure Charlie is dead.
And I know there is a lot of stuff out there that says it's not.
You know, actually, it's interesting.
I interviewed an ex-CIA gentleman, Adam Hardage, and we talked about AI.
And he said, Dave, I went to AI about Charlie Kirk, and AI told me they faked to death for whatever reason.
AI.
Interesting.
Okay.
Here's a really damning piece of proof, and it's disappeared now from internet searches, but it is on YouTube prominently.
It's on X prominently.
And you people in the audience will have no trouble finding this.
Internet evidence since scrubbed from Google shows the following.
In July of 2025, IP addresses from Israel and specifically Tel Aviv and Washington, D.C. researched the judge.
The judge was not yet in his position that he's in now where he's in charge of the trial, Judge Graf Jr.
Dr. Trotter, the man that made the ridiculous statement about the strength of Charlie's bone stopping the 30 ott 6 projectile.
And of course, the Utah medical examiner, she would have been in charge of the autopsy in a high-profile case like this.
And then they surveyed on the Israeli IP addresses, UVU campus, Tyler James Robinson.
And then one day before the assassination from an IP address that was linked to FBI regional headquarters in Huntsville, Alabama, they searched Tyler James Robinson before the assassination.
So how many coincidences do you want to have to say we have a conspiracy here?
This shows forethought and planning.
And this brings in cover-up, I believe, from the FBI.
The CIA is clearly involved when you got the George Zinn DeCoy boy nonsense.
And it makes sense because the CIA would not, in the likelihood, knowingly permit the Mossad to carry out an act, either themselves or using proxies.
I maintain they use proxies.
They didn't carry out an act without the CIA being present or at least giving tacit approval.
And clearly, Kash Patel is involved in the worst cover-up of any assassination I've ever looked into.
This makes the Warren Commission look like a stellar investigation.
Scrolling down here, TPUSA, internet betrayals, financial motives.
And I allege that TPUSA staff is complicit due to Kirk's policy shifts and financial irregularities.
Okay.
Very suspicious actions at the crime scene immediately following.
And I have this on my YouTube channel.
It's also on my website at thecommonsense show.com.
Chief of staff for TPUSA Mikey McCoy, Pastor McCoy's son, stood nearby holding a phone as Charlie was shot.
And the phone wasn't fully visible, but you could see he was holding on to something.
And then as soon as Charlie's shot, the phone comes up to his ear.
And Candace Owens proved by showing the timing, he didn't have time to even speed dial anybody.
It was someone calling him.
And what did he do?
Rather than go over and at least look at Charlie or duck for cover, I would understand that, hiding for cover or running for your life, like a lot of people in the crowd did.
I would understand those two behaviors.
But he didn't even look at Charlie.
He didn't even give him a second look.
He turns around and walks behind the tent and walks away.
And later I show a video on my website that shows that Mikey McCoy is still on the phone walking away as Charlie's body is loaded into a private SUV.
It's just, it's the most stunning behavior.
And he was supposed to be Charlie's best friend.
Strange, strange behavior.
And you can see the circle, and it's hard to make out here.
And I'll see if I can enlarge it a little bit here, but it's hard to make out.
But you can see he's standing right next to Charlie.
This is crazy, crazy behavior.
Okay, now, immediately, and I mean immediately when Charlie's shot, two TPUSA personnel do not dive for cover.
They don't run for their lives.
They immediately jump over a couple of barriers here.
And you can see one man with his back to you in a different angle.
I have of a video on my website.
He's disassembling the camera.
Another man is taking out the SIM cards.
This is crime scene tampering.
This is a felony.
And TPUSA doesn't deny it.
Later, Chief of Staff Mikey McCoy was asked, Why did TPUSA do that?
And he said, The police told us to do it.
Well, first of all, I don't even see any police, and they're not on the scene for a while.
So who did they tell to do this?
Did they get a phone call?
And if the police did tell them to do it, the police told them to commit an active felony on a crime scene.
And then there's the inadequate security issue here.
No yellow crime scene tape for quite a while afterwards.
No rooftop checks.
In fact, the head of Charlie's security, I believe his name is Brian Harpo, he went on Sean Ryan's podcast, and I watched a good part of it till I couldn't stand the lies anymore.
And he said, Well, we tried to get rooftop coverage, but UVU chief of security and the police chief said no access allowed.
Okay, well, you know what?
What should any good head of security do if that happens?
You can't allow a line of sight to a man who gets multiple death threats.
You cancel the event.
You tell him, Sorry, guys, we're pulling out.
You've acted in bad faith.
This is absolutely horrendous.
Also, I have on a YouTube video, and the reason I'm not showing you that, people, because we don't have time for about a three or four-hour presentation.
But if you go to my YouTube channel and you start scrolling through my Charlie Kirk videos, which are becoming pretty voluminous, you would find a copy of the original agreement that UVU signs with everyone who comes and does an activity on the campus.
And on the first line, it's a security question: how many do you need?
And then they calculate the cost, and it's right there as the number one item.
But on the TPUSA agreement with UVU, they eliminated that first element.
There was no security box to be checked.
I find that highly, highly suspicious.
And again, with all these shortfalls being blamed on UVU by Mr. Harpo, the event should have been canceled right then.
What good is a security team if they knowingly allow their guy to go out and he's exposed to rooftops?
That's as bad as John Kennedy being rerouted three days before he's killed past the book depository going 14 miles an hour in violation of Secret Service protocols.
Just the same thing.
That's why I said the Kennedy assassination work I did really sensitized me to the nonsense we're seeing.
Okay, now we're going to get a little bit into motives here.
Charlie was pivoting away from Israel and it's on tape.
It's not speculation.
Listen, the TPUSA people are saying that's a lie.
That's not true.
Shut up.
You shouldn't be saying those things.
Well, it's on tape.
He's on the PVD podcast.
And he says we're pivoting away from an Israeli first dance.
And he called October 7th a stand down.
And it was.
Israel has bragged forever they can cover every inch of territory in Israel within three minutes.
It took them six hours.
And the patrols that day that would have protected the incursion from the border, they were suddenly stopped the day before.
It was a stand down.
It was a false flag to justify going into Gaza.
And this is what Charlie is basically alleging.
And then it gets worse.
He goes on and says, This is a genocide in Gaza.
Well, that's not what the Israeli donors want to hear.
And I put here a YouTube video if you can look at it.
I'm not going to play it for you here because I don't know how well it'll play on this improvised provision I have to present.
But you can go right here and you can see Charlie on the podcast saying what I just said.
Now, this risk losing major Jewish donors like Ackman and Schiller.
And we're talking around $2 million.
And it was Candace that was actually, Candace Owens actually pulled those figures out from TPUSA insiders.
And I've had the same thing confirmed.
Let me tell you, a lot of TPUSA insiders are coming out, but every one of them I've talked to, they are in fear of their lives.
And I'm not exaggerating when I say this.
Some of them are ex, well, two of them are ex-employees, and they're in fear of their lives.
Well, I suppose if you've seen your leader murdered and some of your colleagues were complicit, I might be in fear of my life too.
Now, these text exchanges that took place short, was it about two weeks before Charlie was killed?
Happened between it was a TPUSA like conference text and they became public.
And TPUSA originally denied it.
And then Andrew Colvett, the head of their media, came out and admitted that these were real conversations.
And they basically went with this: we can't alienate our Jewish donors.
And Charlie said, I think we need to pivot away.
And I'm thinking about bringing back Candace.
And that means Candace Owens back in the fold of TPUSA.
And they were opposed, they being the other inner circle members were opposed to this wholeheartedly.
And I'm sure a lot of you out there have read this text exchange.
It's damning.
Charlie was here, and the TPUSA inner circle was over here.
And they were going in totally different direction from Tyler Boyer to McCoy to Andrew Covet.
They were moving totally in opposite directions from each other.
And that was really apparent in that particular text exchange.
And they were having a full-blown argument on this.
I mean, it's not like someone had to tell me they saw it.
It's in print and it's been validated.
Okay, now here's something that really needs to stand out.
And I hope that people take this very, very seriously.
Charlie ordered an audit.
And I'm going to go through some of the reasons why I believe he ordered the audit with things that I've been able to uncover.
And everything that I mentioned here has been validated by at least a second and third party source.
So I'm not alone in coming out with these allegations against TPUSA with the money.
And some of them are provable.
And like I said, they're on YouTube for me and they're also on thecommoncense show.com.
Well, Charlie ordered this audit eight days before his death.
After Charlie's death, Erica, Kirk, and Mikey McCoy canceled the audit.
Now, that part, we know it got canceled.
Who canceled it?
I've been told by TPUSA insiders.
That's the only thing that can be objected to from what I'm going to present here.
But I believe it's true because it fits what I know.
Okay.
TPUSA has very shady financial dealings.
I think legality is a real issue here.
They're a nonprofit masking griffs.
If you look at like Tyler Boyer's house, and I'm not the one that made this discovery, I forget his first name, Gregorio.
He's an accountant.
He actually found his house and he says, a mansion like a professional athlete.
And it's true.
These people are rolling in dough at the top level as a TPUSA.
Okay, but here's some things that these people did that I just find unconscionable.
TPUSA is made up of four corporations and they have to file 990 forms to be in compliance with federal regulations.
And they had to file it in May of 2025.
Three of the four shell corporations did not file until the heat got applied by people like me.
I came out about five or six weeks after Charlie's death and I said, hey, I've come across this 990 irregularities.
I was looking into the finances and I can't find any evidence from the IRS.
And pretty soon, I'm starting to see other people on X and YouTube saying the exact same thing with receipts.
Well, what's interesting is what was it about three or four weeks ago, TPUSA finally filed the other three 990s and post-dated it back to May.
Could you do that on your taxes?
You don't think the DOJ would come knocking on your door?
I think they might.
Well, one of the things I discovered was that there were $8.6 million missing with these shell corporations.
And I'm sure this was the main impetus why Charlie was ordering an audit.
And here's one thing I found in the Gregorio accountant who's doing a great job.
We found the same thing.
I live north of Phoenix in a rural area.
And I'm going to reference something as about 70, 80 miles away from me on the far southeast side of a Phoenix suburb called Queen Creek.
And there's a strip mall there.
And after the three of the four shell corporations for TPUSA finally filed their 990s, a $1.5 million payment went to an address in the strip mall.
Well, there is no business by the name in the strip mall.
Nothing.
And Gregorio's found the same thing.
And so have two other people I've seen on X who have gone to the strip mall and there's no such place.
Where'd that money go?
And by the way, the company that the money was paid to is a company, a database company for Arizona State Senator, I believe his first name is Blake Hoffman, Jake Hoffman.
And Hoffman has been in trouble with the social media people before, not legal trouble, but he got kicked off Facebook for imitating Democrats, trying to create false narratives, pretending to be in the Green Party and alienate Democrats against each other.
And so for that, he was kicked off Facebook.
I believe he was kicked off another social media platform.
And Deception Online is his MO.
And he does consulting for people about PR and so forth who are running for office.
So it would make sense they'd want to pay him.
But why doesn't this business have a website?
Why doesn't this business have a physical address that we could trace?
And by law, it would have to be on one of the 990 forms.
The payment's there, but the address is false.
And there's a number of people who will validate what I'm saying who've actually gone to that strip mall and looked.
This is very suspicious.
Now, I don't know if Senator Hoffman did anything wrong.
Someone could be using his name.
So I'm not going to implicate him, but there's clearly some money laundering going on with or without the knowledge of this Arizona state senator.
Okay, now there's a gentleman named John McGovern, and I'll cover him a little later in more detail.
He received a salary once the 990 forms came out for $700,000, roughly speaking, give or take a few dollars.
Charlie's salary is only $390,000.
That struck me as odd.
So I decided to look into McGovern.
And later on, I'll show you his Ukrainian connections.
That becomes part of the motives we're going to look at.
Okay, now there's also the redirecting of turning point money to stock investments.
Not illegal, but the way it was done, and I've gone to some accountants because I'm not an accountant.
And I said, what do you think of what I found here?
And I didn't tell them I was looking at the Charlie Kirk case because I wanted them to give me an honest answer, not be skittish.
And to a person, they said, this is highly irregular.
And in many circles, this would be grounds for looking at a company as being unethical if they're a charity.
Now, they said some charities do, but they're very open about it.
One of the insiders told me, they said, Dave, Charlie had no idea until two weeks before his death that these stock investments were going on.
Now, I don't know if that's true, but it would fit what I found.
Okay, another problem I have with TPUSA finances is the McCoy's, Pastor McCoy, who spoke at Charlie's memorial.
My son had blood all over him.
No, he didn't.
His son was on the phone and walked away from Charlie and didn't give him a second look.
That was a lie.
He's the head of one of the four shell corporations.
Mikey McCoy, his son, is the head of another one of the four shell corporations.
And to a person with accountants I've talked to and one lawyer, they said, we may not have a legal issue here.
It depends on how they set it up, but we certainly have an ethics issue here.
And the reason that corporations who operate with these sub entities aren't supposed to have, you know, best friends or family members controlling the different entities is because they can collude without oversight.
And I think this is a strong possibility.
Okay, now TPUSA insiders, and this is in the rumor mill, but it certainly fits the overall scheme of what I found.
They tell me that Erica Kirk, prior to Charlie's death, was overriding money decisions.
And we've heard the stories.
It's all over YouTube.
I think some of the evidence is kind of flim flam.
And I think at least he looked at more closely.
But they're saying that Erica was making money movements without consulting Charlie.
And that, and one thing I've seen I think is credible is the night before Charlie was killed, he was locked out of his email account, password was changed.
And one insider said she was sure it was Erica.
I'm not sure if that's true, but she was certainly putting herself in harm's way in terms of their marriage stability because a lot of people have witnessed them arguing, including neighbors.
And they were fighting over money.
And this is something that I'm absolutely confident in saying because there's too many witnesses for this not to be true.
Erica was trying to limit Charlie's contacts, who he would talk to.
And this is something that everyone who knew Charlie, in fact, actually, there's a guy on X who has come out.
He makes a video of himself and I forget his name now, but he's on X. He's sitting in his car and he's telling exactly the same story that I've been told by other insiders.
And he's a for real guy.
He did work at TPUSA.
He's out in the open.
Let's hope he locks his doors at night.
Okay, now, what about the investigation?
I call it the FBI investigation of the Keystone Cops.
This is absolutely the worst investigation of a crime scene I've ever seen for the reasons I've already gone through.
Okay, now I even speculated this on a YouTube video.
This investigation by Kash Patel's people, first of all, it shouldn't have happened.
They didn't have jurisdictional authority.
10th Amendment, okay, federal and state.
Charlie was not a federal official, didn't work for the government.
This was not an interstate crime, as far as we know.
The FBI should have done nothing but just consult and maybe offer their laboratory or their expertise in examining ballistics.
Oh, wait a minute, there can't be any ballistics.
Why?
Because the crime scene was paved over in 48 hours.
If Charlie was shot with a bullet, they would have found some fragments and ballistically or not traced it back to Tyler James, Lee Harvey, Oswald Robinson.
That wasn't done because they covered up the crime scene.
And the FBI was a party to this.
I'll say it again: the FBI was a party to this.
I wondered out loud on a video I did because this investigation was so bad.
If Kash Patel and Dan Bongino didn't want to create such a stink being ordered to cover it up for reasons I'll get into in a minute, that they wanted people like me to continue to look at this to find the truth.
Because these people owed Charlie their jobs.
Trump gets elected because Charlie flipped a lot of the youth vote.
Well, Kash Patel's in his position because of that event.
So is Bongino.
Why would they participate in something against a guy who is nothing but loyal to them and Charlie Kirk?
I'm still not sure that I'm not right.
I know this sounds facetious, but I mean, I think you could find a 12-year-old kid that could have concocted a better cover-up than what we're seeing.
Here's another aspect that really bothered me, and this went public.
I actually played a clip from Joe Kent on my YouTube channel.
The FBI blocked access to what?
To potential foreign involvement in the killing of Charlie.
Okay.
Deputy director under Tulsi Gabbert and the head of domestic terrorism, Joe Kent, was denied FBI files on potential foreign ties, and they had a heated meeting.
This is where it gets interesting.
In the meeting, Kash Patel, Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, Tulsi Gabbert, and Kent.
And they basically had told Tulsi and Joe Kent, you get no access.
Well, it's interesting because Susie Wiles worked in Netanyahu's campaign in 2023.
Oh, listen, I was opposed to her appointment.
I said, this is as bad as John Bolton's appointment.
She coordinated different big pharma lobbyist firms and just coordinators.
So she's had her hand in all the pies.
And we know how corrupt they are.
And she has been involved in the AI situation.
I mean, she is a globalist globalist, and she has ties to Israel that are longstanding, including, like I said, her aide, the Netanyahu.
So, anyway, what would have been the harm if the FBI is telling the truth for Joe Kent to have access to the files to bring in foreign involvement possibilities or dismiss them?
Well, there's no harm, no foul, unless you got something to hide.
I keep it in a lot of my work, I've made parallels to the JFK assassination, unexplored Israeli angles.
And listen, Israel has surfaced in some of these JFK files that have been let out.
It's obtuse, but it's something that needs to be looked at in more detail.
We know Pearl Harbor was a false flag.
And I'm warning everyone right now: I expect Israel to perpetrate false flags on our soil and frame people they want framed.
In fact, we had the two Afghan incidences of men that worked with the CIA as young teenagers relocated here, both vetted by the Trump administration after the Biden administration did it.
And all of a sudden, they travel cross-country to carry out terrorist acts.
One person killed one National Guards person and put another life in jeopardy.
The one in Dallas was going to set off bombs, but was stopped.
But they both had the Afghan connection.
And I wondered if there was an Israel connection.
I wondered about MKUltra pre-programming.
Because why would this one guy who lived, had five kids, lived in Washington, drive cross-country?
Why would he do that?
Why did he wait till this moment to do it?
How convenient.
He's been in this country since the first people left Afghanistan after the fall of the country to the Taliban.
The timing is very suspect, is what I'm saying.
Okay, now, why did the FBI cover things up?
And Candace, this is the only thing that Candace Owens has said that I disagree with.
She implicates Trump as planning it and being a part of it.
I don't agree with that.
Trump and Patel are involved in the cover-up.
And why are they involved in the cover-up?
Because the Israeli peace agreement is in jeopardy if Israel is not on board.
And if Israel gets exposed for reasons I'll get into when I get to the conclusion, then that peace deal blows up.
Now, I know Israel is still in Gaza killing women and children and others, but the agreement exists on paper and there is the chance.
And this has a chance because Trump's foreign policy has not been stellar.
This is a chance for Trump to resurrect his status in foreign policy with this peace agreement.
And I believe he would do anything to keep it alive, including cover up the murder of a man most responsible for putting him in the White House.
And yes, would I vote for Trump tomorrow?
Probably, but I don't agree with what he did.
But I don't go as far as Candace Owens does.
And by the way, I agree with Candace on every other thing she has said because she has provided the receipts.
But anyway, why would Israel want to go after Charlie and take him out?
Why?
Well, look at the bombing.
We supported Israel by taking out supposed nuclear facilities in Iran.
I say supposed.
We haven't seen any receipts, so we just have to take the government's word for it.
We know what that's worth.
But why would we support that?
And why would Israel be interested in TPUSA?
Why have they attracted donors from Schiller to Ackman?
It's pretty obvious.
It's pretty obvious.
I believe they want to invade Iran, eliminate what they believe is their existential threat, get the Iranian oil while they're after it, and as a booty of war.
And they need TPUSA aged young adults to buy into the need for boots on the ground to support an Iranian invasion.
I think this is their ultimate goal.
And I think this is their main motive.
But I'll get into another motive, very important to connect to Depstein later.
But in terms of the murder of Charlie and TPUSA takeover, and look at TPUSA, as I say here, is an Israeli intelligence operation now.
They are totally compromised.
Charlie was moving away.
Now they're back in line with Israel.
Donations are flowing in.
Inner circles making lots of money.
Life is good if they could just shut people like us up.
Okay, so let's get into the geopolitical motives here and look at this.
Kirk's criticisms, the Gaza genocide and USAID, $3 trillion since 73, 1.4 trillion in recent years, and $34 billion for the Gaza genocide operation threatened Netanyahu's agenda for U.S. involvement in Iran.
And Charlie asked President Trump not to engage in the bombing.
He was really clear on this.
So that, again, put him at distance with Israel.
Kirk's youth influence could resist conscription if it comes to support a war with Iran that I believe will follow a series of false flag operations in this country.
That's my personal belief.
It's a hypothesis, but to me, it's when I look at all the facts, I think this is the most logical thing.
And I feel if I speak it, I minimize the chance of it happening, maybe.
Now, we also know Israel is paying American influencers $7,000 to $11,000 per publication.
And some of that meeting, you know, with people like Tim Poole, sorry, Tim, you were there.
Okay, this shows that they're recruiting people who have influence with the youth on Instagram, TikTok, and so forth.
And Israel is paying them to stay on the pro-Israeli side.
And this reinforces my belief about what Israel's designs on TPUSA are.
So I mean, this whole operation was not hard to see through.
You know, as bad as the Kennedy assassination cover-up was, this is a whole lot worse.
A lot of people don't know this.
This is now surface.
Right now, today, Israel is training 1,040 U.S. pastors for mega churches to become ambassadors for Israel.
So again, this just fits in the model of what I'm talking about.
Now, there's a broader conspiracy here, and I promised I would get to this.
Epstein was a money launderer before he was a child trafficker, and he was good at it.
He was really good at it.
He has strong ties to the Mossad and also MI6.
And if you want to know how intelligence operations work, MI6 is here, and the CIA and Mossad are on the second tier.
All three of them, I believe, had a hand in knowledge of what was going to happen to Charlie.
In fact, a couple of the insiders have told me Charlie told people, well, told one person directly, I told another one who told them that he says, my life's in jeopardy.
This was one of the events was the night before he went to Utah.
And you can't dismiss all of this as irrelevant chatter and rumor when it ends up being true and it's connected to so many other things that you can prove.
It fits the MO.
So Israel does not want to be exposed for being part of one of the world's biggest pedophile networks, which they have been for years.
And I've known this for years.
They don't want to be exposed.
That is devastating.
And this is why the Epstein list isn't coming out.
And this is why this administration is covering it up.
They're covering it up for the benefit of Israel, the same way they're covering up the murder of Charlie Kirk for the benefit of Israel.
And also, we get into international money laundering considerations, and this brings in MI6, Bank of London.
I'm not going to go down that route, but I mean, to me, I can see how this is even a broader conspiracy than what I'm presenting here.
Charlie's death exposed the degree of control Israel has over our government and media, namely APAC.
APAC is the only foreign lobbyist group in America that can donate to a political campaign without having to register.
What?
Yes, I'll say that again.
Of all the foreign lobbyists in America and organizations, APAC is the only one that doesn't have to register as a foreign lobbyist because they would have to go through more scrutiny than they do now.
And they avoid a lot of scrutiny that they may not want to show if closer eyes looked at them.
So they're allowed to get away with this.
That's unconscionable.
And this may shock you.
Estimated 85 to 89 percent of all Congress gets donations from APAC.
That's scary.
I'll deal with that in the conclusion.
But this has exposed the Israeli influence over us.
And by the way, it's not just Israel.
Tomorrow I'm going to come out on YouTube.
I'm going to talk about who's really behind fentanyl.
And number one is not China and it's not the CJNG cartel.
You'll have to tune in to find out.
But we're infiltrated by this country with the fentanyl to a really high degree.
The same way we're infiltrated by dual citizens, Schumer and the rest.
We're infiltrated by their political influence with donations they should not be allowed to make, but they are.
This is undue influence on our government.
No wonder we've given them over $3 trillion.
$3 trillion.
$3 trillion.
I just shake my head at this stupidity.
Okay, now, Candace brought up the Egyptians.
And at first, I'll be honest, Candace, I love you when I say this, but I thought she'd lost her mind.
The Egyptians were at the event.
And then she produced receipts that showed Erica was being monitored by planes from Egypt.
And she had the flight patterns.
Charlie was being tracked and followed by planes from Egypt.
And however, Charlie was taken out, we know that the Egyptians have been frequent proxies of the Mossad.
There's a gap there that really needs to be investigated.
And I'm putting it out here more speculative than definitively because I want people to pick up on this and investigate it.
Candace has proven they were there.
And one of the planes, when they took off of the Egyptians, they turned the transponder off.
And you remember that was being reported widely.
The assassin got away.
I mean, that was what some people were saying.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
But this is something that's really scary.
Okay, now, huge Ukraine supporter, who's the head of one of the charitable organizations within TPUSA, John McGovern, is paid $700,000 a year from TPUSA, and two of the four fundings come from those shell corporations.
McGovern.
Charlie made $390,000.
This man is rabid for pro-aid for Ukraine, and we know Charlie was opposed.
If you go to his website for John McGovern, you can find it easily.
You'll find this among several photos of civilian damage from the war in Kiev.
You can see they're probably carrying a body out here.
He's rabid, rabid Ukraine, goes to Ukraine often, interacts on his Facebook page with Ukrainians, has a huge picture of Zelensky on his Facebook page, and he's working for Charlie.
And Charlie was opposed to the aid.
Is there a Ukrainian connection?
I believe there is a possibility.
I definitely know there's an Iranian, excuse me, an Israeli connection, but I believe there's probably a Ukrainian connection too.
Let's get down to what happened with Candace.
You can see Macron and his wife in quotes.
And she said that, well, that's not really a woman married to Macron.
It's one of his former teachers.
And they have sued her.
And then Candace started getting death threats.
And she's played the audio tape of an informant who said, they're serious, Candace.
You better be careful.
And words to that effect.
And I'm thinking, okay, Macron's already suing her.
I don't believe Macron wants to take out Candace if he's suing her because all eyes would be on him.
But I do believe NATO does.
NATO wants to go after Russia for a couple of reasons.
One, their economy is a near disaster.
And for things I don't have time to get into today, very quickly, Trump is setting up a multipolar arrangement.
I don't know if he's going to get China and Russia fully on board, but he's trying.
They all had a meeting last week when Witkoff was in Moscow talking to Putin.
The Chinese were there talking to their Russian equivalents.
And it's all about digitization of Bitcoin, revaluation of gold, more than I have time to get into.
And I'm covering it presently in a series on my YouTube channel.
And you can check that out.
NATO is left out.
I mean, in terms of Europe, Europe and mostly made up of NATO nations, they're left out of this agreement.
This trilateral agreement that's surfacing.
And this is not just Dave Hodges saying this.
This is out there.
It's Russia, China, and the U.S.
But where's Europe?
Nowhere to be found.
Germany's in depression.
Today in London, 1800 tractors stormed the city.
They're in rebellion.
And 12 tanks.
I've got the pictures.
I've published them already.
The UK and France are near civil war.
The people have had enough.
Europe's in an absolute mess.
And what fixes a mess like that?
What's the distraction?
You go to war.
And they want war with Russia.
Absolutely, positively.
And Candace is putting the brakes on foreign war involvement.
And that's her position.
That was Charlie's position.
And I believe Candace's life is not under threat so much by Macron, even though his country is part of NATO.
I believe it's NATO that's behind this.
That would be where I would be looking.
Let's scroll down to here because I know time is short.
Let's talk about the TPUSA inner circle and more concerns that I have.
They had a June meeting in the Hamptons, and this has been so widely reported.
There's no denying it.
Charlie got hammered.
I mean, it sounded like a Gestapo interrogation.
And Jewish donors were there.
We'll take our money out.
And then TPUS insiders were pressuring him.
And then there's the July meeting that took place, you know, virtually with the signal emails, or I should say, text messages.
And those transcripts were leaked by Charlie and confirmed by TPUSA's media director, Andrew Covid.
Again, the same tone: Charlie, you're going the wrong direction.
You're going the wrong direction.
And TPUSA's inner circle would have lost millions if the Jewish donors were pulling out.
And that's the problem.
I don't think they're going to be able to resurrect this ship.
Right now, TPUSA donations are up a little bit because it's the martyrdom created by Charlie, but that's going to die out pretty soon.
And the young people are not on board.
I've got a son in that age range.
You know, he's approaching his mid-20s.
And he tells me, he says, dad, the young guys, they want nothing to do with Israel.
And the polls tell us less than 10% of the young adults in our country support Israel's mission and how they're conducting themselves in the Middle East.
It's a losing bet for Israel, but they're not giving up.
This is why they're employing the pastors, why they're paying the influencers, and why they've taken over TPUSA.
Now, we know this is true.
And I've been told this, and I think it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
TPUSA's inner circle would have lost millions if Charlie had audited the organization.
He ordered that audit eight days before his death.
Eight days.
You can believe in coincidences if you want.
And then finally, we get into a little bit about what's Erica Kirk all about.
And let me say this.
This is the first real public thing.
I was on John Wells' show earlier in the week, and I broached the topic cautiously.
Let me just share this with you.
I have a mental health background in terms of being a therapist.
I used to teach body language.
And I'm not trying to set myself up as an ultimate authority, but I know what I'm talking about here.
And from the first speech Erica gave, I just thought she doesn't know how to act.
She's just in terrible distress.
She's got these two young kids who'll never see their dad again.
And my heart was aching for her and the kids.
And I really wanted to overlook and didn't use my objective decision making and my training to really analyze her.
When she gave the speech at the memorial for TPUSA, okay, I'm going to give you some real hardcore facts here with body language.
Our gestures go in line with the beat of our voice.
And when we're lying, we typically give ourselves away with what we call these micro expressions.
The facial expressions don't match the arm movement and they're not in sync necessarily with the words.
And you walk away from this from unconscious perception because this is micro.
You say, I just don't think that person's telling me the truth.
And you may not be able to articulate it unless you're trained in body language, but your experience and your unconscious mind have processed this.
And we're pretty good judges of when people are telling us the truth and not telling us the truth.
And I can tell you, Erica Kirk's micro expressions are inconsistent and out of sync with each other.
From the dabbing in the corner of her eye, she's expressing the grief of tears in the same manner, the same way, all the time.
And think about when you've had times of great distress, your emotions and your behavior were all over the place.
You didn't have just one consistent way of projecting that grief over a period of time.
There would be variance in your reaction.
And with Erica, we're not seeing that.
It looks like a rehearsal.
And this is the first time I've spoken out.
And I have listened to the criticisms of Erica and I just said, I can't go down that path unless I'm 100% sure.
Well, everything in my training tells me that for whatever reason, she may not have been a part of it.
I don't know.
I don't know for sure.
But it's interesting, Charlie dies, and two days later, she's the head of TPUSA.
Okay.
And what qualified her to be that?
But let's look into her background.
Romania.
Oh, I know about Romania, people.
And why do I know about Romania?
Because I've been interviewed by journalists there, and it's controlled by our CIA, at least in their media.
Okay, so she's there.
I'm wondering if she's not MKUltra.
She was just a young kid, and she's with these Romanian angels.
And this is a child sex trafficking operation run through in the U.S. military base.
She ignored Charlie's parents.
It's embarrassing how she treated them, her body language.
And then she set up this fake debate with Candace and set it up so Candace couldn't be there so she could discredit her.
And now she's on the damage control tour.
And we got Sean Hannity basically saying, Hey, stop asking questions.
Here's my conclusions: TPUSA is an intelligence operation and an extension of the Mossad.
Erica Kirk is a de facto Israeli agent.
I think that's a high likelihood, although I can't prove it at this time.
God help me for saying that.
Israel planned the event and handed off the cover-up to the Americans with the FBI and CIA.
Most likely, the Egyptians were proxy agents.
Trump and Patel forced to participate to preserve the Middle East peace agreement.
The motives: cover up Epstein money laundering, cover up the child trafficking involving the Israeli cover-up part of this, help and reward TPUSA's brainwashing of USA young adults willing to provide boots on the ground in Iran.
And then, of course, they got their Patsy.
Tyler Robinson is the modern-day Lee Harvey Oswald.
Robinson will be executed, and the justice system of Utah is the modern-day Jack Ruby to carry out that execution.
Very quickly, solutions: all foreign contributions to American politicians must be ended, make it a felony.
No dual citizenships in American office.
Israel has 400 nuclear weapons, they do not need our money.
DOJ investigation into turning point finances, prosecute TPS personnel for tampering with a crime scene, cut off aid to Ukraine.
This is a Euro problem.
Deport all known Mossad agents and prosecute any CIA proven to be involved in any way in Charlie's murder.
The CIA cannot operate legally on American soil.
Well, that concludes my presentation.
We're not done uncovering the facts.
And I know that a lot of you will not agree totally with what I've said.
I would encourage you to go do your own investigation, but the receipts I gave you today are prominent on my website and also on my YouTube channel.
And I want to thank Dr. Fetzer for having me on.
It's been a real honor to be a part of this esteemed group.
Dave, thank you so much.
That was phenomenal.
Jim just called me and he said, Oh my God, this is great.
This is so good.
I said, Yeah, I'll be sure to tell him.
So we're watching.
I don't know if Jim's out there.
Jim, are you out there?
Oh, yes, I am here.
Come on in.
Dave, that was wonderful.
Just splendid.
Thank you, Jim.
Okay, great.
Well, Dave, thank you again.
And everybody, we're going to be moving on to our next person in just a moment.