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Dec. 17, 2025 - Jim Fetzer
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9/11: The Planes! The Planes! All Four Crash Sites Were Fabricated & Faked - Jim Fetzer, Ph.D.
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Welcome to the second day of our sixth annual False Flags and Conspiracies Conference, where I regret to say our first speaker is missing in action.
That would be Alexander Baker on gender-affirming care, the new lobotomy.
I'm a huge fan of Alexander, but given the circumstances, we need to make an adjustment and have a fallback, which I prepared just in case we lost a speaker.
So, here we are, I'm going to present...
It bounces, it bounces, it bounces, it bounces, it bounces.
9-11.
The planes, the planes.
All four crash sites were fabricated and faked.
Let's go back to events of 9-11.
If you're watching television, you might have experienced this.
It wasn't bomb.
Bombing on the building, not second plane.
That was a bomb.
We say the second plane.
That's what we're told.
Second plane.
We saw it on television.
All right.
Thanks a lot.
This is how much of the plane actually impacted the building.
You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
The only site is the actual side of the building that's crashed in.
And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand.
There are no large tail sections, wing sections, a fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
Now, even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon, you see that the floors have all collapsed.
That didn't happen immediately.
It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
Jeff, it's a United Airlines plane.
It's believed to be at that site outside Pittsburgh, isn't it?
That's exactly right, John, with 45 people total on board.
And one of the more profound things today, the imprint of terrorism seared, not only on Wall Street, but also on Main Street.
Here you have an area 80 miles to the southeast of Pittsburgh and this plane, which went down at about 10 o'clock this morning.
We have rescue vehicles that came in earlier in the day and they have turned up nothing.
No one believed to be alive from this crash.
Some of the media just getting back to the scene, which is about a quarter of a mile up on a hill back behind me.
And so some of the first pictures just starting to come in within the last hour.
I want to get quickly to Chris Kanicki.
He's a photographer with the Pittsburgh affiliate of Fox Affiliate.
He was back there just a couple of minutes ago.
And Chris, I've seen the pictures.
It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground.
Basically, that's right.
The only thing you could see from where we were was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees.
We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see, there wasn't much left.
Any large pieces of debris at all?
No, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
Smoke, fire?
Nothing.
It was absolutely quiet.
It was actually very quiet.
Nothing going on down there, no smoke, no fire, just a couple of people walking around.
They look like part of the NTSB crew walking around looking at the pieces.
How big would you say that hole was?
From my estimates, I would guess it was probably about 20 to 15 feet long and probably about 10 feet long or 10 feet wide.
What could you see on the ground, if anything other than dirt and ash?
You couldn't see anything.
You could just see dirt, ash, and people walking around, broken trees.
Says that City Hall in Oakland will remain open.
It will be business as usual.
He is urging people to remain calm with given what is going on.
Remain calm.
Oakland City Hall will remain open, but in San Francisco, City Hall has been closed.
We're also just getting word here now that a second United Airlines jet, Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles, is now missing.
Again, if you're just joining us, there have been four separate plane crashes.
Three of those planes were en route to California.
Two were heading to LAX.
The third was heading to San Francisco International Airport.
That was specifically the one heading to SFO United flight number 93 from Newark to SFO.
It apparently crashed in Pennsylvania, fairly close to the border of Maryland and not too far from Camp David.
Why is that significant?
Because one of the groups possibly claiming responsibility for all these terrorist attacks is the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
And it was this week in 1978 that the Camp David Accords were reached.
Is there a connection?
At this point, we don't know, but it is important to be aware of that situation.
In Washington, D.C., many congressional leaders have been transferred to a secret location.
Some senators have described this as a second Pearl Harbor.
And President Bush was in Florida this morning, but he made a brief announcement when the first attacks were clear on the World Trade Center, and he was heading back to Washington, D.C. At this point, we don't know exactly where he is.
They are trying, they're not really broadcasting that information, but we are told that the president is safe right now.
We're waiting for a press conference to start in San Francisco from the Office of Emergency Services to discuss what the situation, what the city's reaction to all of this is going to be.
But again, right now in San Francisco.
Just bear in mind some of the themes we've already seen introduced there.
No plane.
It was a bomb in New York City.
And the reporter responded, well, no, we saw it on television.
Also, Jamie McIntyre, CNN's best reporter from the Pentagon.
From my close-up inspection, there's no sign of any plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
And he's right there.
And then Chris Kanicki being interviewed out in Shanksville, where he, not alone, was reporting that there was no sign of any plane having crashed there.
Think about it.
In terms of the laws that cause an effect, if you do not have an effect, you did not have the cause.
One tell about 9-11, the security at the airports involved here was ICTS, which is an Israeli firm.
And it would turn out this was an Israeli op orchestrated with the complicity of the CIA, the NEOCONS, the Department of Defense, and the Mossad to bring about an event that would justify the introduction of American forces into the Middle East to take out what would turn out to be the government of seven countries in the next five years.
No plane's theory can be defined as the conjunction of four claims.
Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville.
Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon Plus.
Flight 11 did not hit the North Tower.
And Flight 175 did not hit the South.
I'm going to prove each of the four to establish that all of the 9-11 crash sites were fabricated or fake, albeit in different ways.
Well, here's that hole in the ground, right?
You heard the reporter.
It was 15 or 20 feet wide and maybe 10 feet deep.
Well, the aircraft had a wingspan of 125 feet.
It had a tail that stood 44 feet above the ground.
It weighed 100 tons of it, but it's not there.
Look at crash sites in Missouri, Amsterdam, Russia.
There are always massive piles of debris from the airliner, but not in Shanksville.
And even this smoke, by the way, appears to have been added.
I do not believe it was there.
Here's that interview.
Another reporter said the same thing.
The eerie aspect of the crash site was there was no sign any plane had crashed there, which of course is most readily explicable on the basis of the hypothesis that's because no plane had crashed there.
Here you have one of the apologists' efforts to explain it away, the claim that this was an area where mining activity had taken place, and that the plane had disappeared into an abandoned mine shaft after the passengers had heroically taken it over and it had come to the ground upside down.
Well, the problem is we know what to do with miners who are trapped in abandoned mine shafts.
We break out the bright lights and the heavy equipment and dig 24-7 in the hope that someone, even one, might have survived.
But that didn't happen in Shanksville.
They didn't bring out the bright lights or the equipment even to retrieve the bodies of 45 who allegedly had died there.
Why?
Because there was nothing to dig up.
Meanwhile, Val McClatchy claimed to have taken a photograph on the left, but there's several oddities.
The smoke looks more like that from an explosion than it does from an air crash.
Plus, if you track the geography, it turns out the smoke is coming from over a pond, not the location at which a plane is alleged to have crashed.
Here's smoke from a real crash site.
Notice a difference.
Further proof, no plane crashed in Shanksville.
Pilots from 9-11 Truth have done a brilliant job of tracking the aircraft and discovered that Flight 93 was still airborne after it allegedly crashed in Shanksville.
It was over Champaign, Urbana, Illinois.
Meanwhile, turning to the Pentagon.
Even though the Pentagon is surrounded with cameras, they've only ever released five frames, four of which are seen here.
In the upper left, you see one conveniently labeled plane.
And there you have what might be a plane with a white bloom.
By the way, they have the wrong date time stamps, which of course is incredibly suspicious.
And we'll see reason to think even that growing fireball was a fabrication and not in fact bona fide.
I asked a legendary colleague from JFK Research, Jack White, if he could introduce the image of a Boeing 757 scaled to the size of the tail, and it turns out to be twice as large.
Whatever that may be, it is not a Boeing 757.
Moreover, pilots and aeronautical engineers have explained to me the white bloom could not be the exhaust from a jet, which would be black, but could be from a missile being fired into the building.
And here it turns out, we actually have video of the missile that was fired into the building.
It turns out from an unmanned aerial vehicle, a global hawk.
Look at the lower right.
There it is, coming in.
Look again, lower right.
There is a missile coming into the building.
Meanwhile, here's the head point.
Here's the hit point.
Which is about.
Gary, you want to mute, Gary?
You want to mute, Gary?
Here's the hit point.
It's about 10 feet high, 15, 20 feet wide.
But we see two planes in a flame.
There are two large cables.
There are unbroken windows.
What do we not see?
No massive pile of aluminum debris from a 100-ton airliner.
No bodies, no seat, no luggage, no wings, no tail, not even the engines, which are virtually indestructible recovered from the Pentagon.
When I suggest that those fireballs might have been added visually, here's my reason why.
When they did an excavation to the section that had collapsed, there are no signs of any intense fire there.
Even look here on what, the third floor, there's a wooden stand, apparently from an Oxford Unabridged Dictionary, shows no sign of any intense fire or flames.
Moreover, the official trajectory of this plane coming in around 400 miles an hour and buriedly skimming the ground turns out to be aerodynamically impossible because of what is known as ground effect.
That plane at that speed could not come closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground, which is higher than the Pentagon is tall.
We're being given an impossible scenario.
Moreover, here you have two civilian lime green firetrucks extinguishing the very modest fires.
And notice in particular the Pentagon lawn.
There is no debris whatsoever, indicating no plane actually crashed there.
Here again from the BCC, the lawn perfectly clear, non-blemished, no debris whatsoever.
And another, even after the collapse of that section of the building, no debris on the lawn.
It only started showing up much later and included this piece, which actually is from the fuselage of a Boeing 757.
But notice in particular, it's not all crumpled up as you'd expect from a violent crash.
It doesn't show any signs of being exposed to intense heat or flames.
And there's a chunk of vine embedded here, not indigenous to the Arlington, Virginia area.
So where did this come from?
Well, James Hansen, who's a retired attorney from Columbus, Ohio, did research.
Turns out that 757 is a very safe plane.
It's only encountered a small number of crashes worldwide.
He discovered when it crashed, American 965 near Cali, Columbia, back in 1995, and that these vines are indigenous there, where the pilots had lost their way, and the plane passed through the jungle en route to colliding with the side of a mountain.
And the salvage crew was Israeli.
I conjectured when the BBC came to my home to interview me for eight hours and then used a seven and a half minute segment where I was explaining that I suspected the debris had been dropped from a C-130 that was circling the building.
So yes, the pilot, he didn't actually say no.
He said it was absurd.
But frankly, it would have been too awkward to have officers and men bringing those pieces of debris out onto the lawn.
Meanwhile, according to the official account, the plane hit a series of stationary lampposts, one, two, three, four, five, six, en route to its destination.
Well, the effects of a plane over 400 miles an hour hitting stationary lampposts are the same as had the plane been stationary, hit by lampposts at over 400 miles an hour.
They would have ripped open the wings, which are filled with fuel mixed with air, exploded, cartwheeled across the lawn.
There would have been debris everywhere.
But as we've already seen, there was debris nowhere until much later and appears to have been planted.
That means the plane cannot have been on this trajectory and that the events that were being told are a fantasy.
Now, citizens investigative team discovered that was a Citco station here in the vicinity of the Pentagon and that witnesses had seen a plane approach the building, but it was on the wrong side of the Sitco station north, the official Trajectory here in Green South.
So their reports contradict the official story.
Moreover, Roy Schaefer, and you heard David Bantic and me both mention Roy from JFK Research, had a trucker buddy, Dave Ball, who was in front of the Pentagon at the time, who told Roy that he saw a plane approach the building and then swerve over it, which, by the way,
appears to have been the plane that Norman Mineta in an underground bunker with Vice President Cheney at the time reported was allowed to fly toward the Pentagon, even though, since these planes were being used as weapons, the appropriate action to take would have been to shoot it down.
If you shoot it down, you lose the plane and the passengers, but you don't lose the property and the personnel at the target in this case.
The plane was allowed to approach to create the visual or psychological impression of the plane having actually hit the Pentagon, where an explosion went off at the time it swerved over and as Dave Ball reported.
I asked Roy to get Dave on the air with me to protect his interests, but Dave was reluctant to do it.
I told Roy, look, once he has his story out, he's far safer.
But by that point, Dave was already found dead in an abandoned building.
Meanwhile, they forget to wipe off the punch out here in the seabring.
The Pentagon is firing D E D C B A, and this was supposed to be evidence of a part of the plane, presumably a landing gear, having passed through the seabring, except it would have been at an angle, and therefore the blowout, the punch out would not have been symmetrical as we see here.
And of course, it was actually done with explosives.
Meanwhile, here you had Jamie McIntyre explaining, just as we heard him say from his close-up inspection, there's no sign of any plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
Jamie would later be pressured to retract his observation, and he did so in the following manner.
He said only a fool would suggest that a plane hadn't hit the Pentagon, meaning he'd been a fool to think he was supposed to report actual events based on personal observation.
And subsequently, he retired, even though he was their best reporter, no longer willing to carry the heavy water of propaganda.
Meanwhile, April Gallup was a civilian working at the Pentagon.
She said when she turned on her computer, boom, there was a huge explosion that she walked out through the hole created and could smell cordite, a military explosive, but saw no signs of any plane having crashed there.
Colonel Albert, Major General Albert Stumblebein, was interviewed in German, and he reported that he could tell no plane had hit the Pentagon because there was no impression of the plane on the side of the building, which is made of limestone, a relatively soft stone.
I would subsequently do an interview with General Stumblebein, where I reviewed the evidence I had that all four crash sites had been fabricated or faked.
And he, who had been in charge of all U.S. military signals intelligence, including photographic, not only agreed with me, but added additional reasons, I was right.
Meanwhile, at the Capitol, they were warned that the Capitol might be next.
And when they walked out on the steps and looked across the Potomac, they saw billowing black smoke.
Knowing that the very boss fires had long since been extinguished by the lime green civilian fire trucks, I found this anomalous and discovered it was coming from a series of gigantic dumpsters.
In other words, this was deliberately set as a Hollywood-style special effect.
A member of scholars for 9-11 Truth, which I had founded, came to Duluth where I was residing at the time and showed me 44 more frames where you could see light between the dumpsters and the building.
So, no planes theory defined.
Flight 93 did not crash in Shanks Hill, proven yes.
Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, proven yes.
New York is far more interesting and challenging.
Here we have the Twin Towers, 110-story Bihamas, masterful in their design.
They were extremely robust.
Here you can see the 47 core columns to create the open space here, surrounded by the 230 external steel support columns, which were quite formidable in and of themselves.
The steel differed in thickness.
In the sub-basement, six inches, then five, four, all the way up to the top, where it was only a quarter of an inch thick.
Thus, the thought that that top part of the building could have caused the rest to collapse, as the government has maintained, is a physical absurdity.
In fact, John Skilling, who was the head of the engineering firm, explained the buildings had been designed with a 20-time safety factor, meaning each floor could carry 20 times the amount of load it was expected to bear.
Notice, in the aftermath, every building with a WTC designation had been destroyed and virtually no other buildings damaged.
Just so happens that day film crew, this is supposed to be a French film crew, was in New York doing a study about a fire department where when the sound of the plane approached, the cameraman just happened to swing up and capture the first hit on the North Tower.
Now think about it.
The sound is traveling slower than the plane.
By the time you hear the sound and look up, the plane is long gone, but that didn't happen here.
He just happened to think of swinging his camera up.
Leslie Raphael from Scotland has observed that in order for this to happen, required to satisfy 100 improbable circumstances.
In other words, it cannot have happened by chance.
Here is what a Boeing 767 would look like, whereas the planes at the Pentagon in Shanksville were 757s in New York.
They were supposed to have been 767s.
And here you see what it would have looked like approaching the North Tower.
Here's what actually was captured on the screen, which Rosalie Grable, known as the Web Ferry, described as looking like a series of flying pigs.
Meanwhile, here is a first hit frame.
Notice, initially, it had the shape of an elongated Z, but then it turned into a V. Not only that, but the tip of the wing was extended in the aftermath.
How absurd is that?
The tip of the wing is among the most fragile components of an aircraft.
Meanwhile, it appears those cutouts were created behind the explosion, which appears to have been created with pre-positioned explosives, napalm jet fuel.
It was twinkling, leading me to conjecture whether this is what George H.W. Bush had meant by a thousand points of light.
Meanwhile, here's a diagram of the silhouette of the plane intersecting with seven different floors in the North Tower.
Each floor consisted of an acre of concrete on a steel truss here intersecting with seven, where the external steel support cons were so formidable, it's unlikely that the planes could have penetrated at all.
Yes, I'll call you back where we are supposed to have seen a plane crash.
There's actually a woman survivor, Edna Sintron.
All you'd ever seen about 9-11, you'd understand it was phony, fabricated, fake.
Edna Cintron actually there, waving, hoping to be saved.
It wasn't going to happen.
Meanwhile, Edward Henry, knowing that the Bureau of Transportation Statistics keeps rubbers on every commercial flight in America, captured for 9-11, showing no American airline flight 11 scheduled to Bart Boston, Logan that day.
It wasn't even in the air.
Meanwhile, Flight 175, by far the most interesting of the four crash sites, where we have some 52 videos showing the plane approaching Hitting the South Tower.
An analysis of the speed shown in those videos indicates it was too fast to have been real, that the plane would have exceeded its stress limitations and come apart.
Pilots for 9-11 Truth again recorded analyzed facts where they put out a documentary, 9-11 intercepted, and showed what would have happened to a Boeing 767 at that speed and that altitude, where the mistake appears to have been to assume that the cruising speed at 35,000 feet,
where the air is only one-third as dense, could be approximated at 700 to 1,000, which is a physical aerodynamic impossibility.
Meanwhile, the plane entered the building effortlessly, leading some to describe it as a ghost plane or a butter plane, as though what it were impacting with was a 110-story cube of butter.
In this case, it was intersecting with eight different floors, eight different floors.
Whereas I mentioned before, each represented an acre of concrete on a steel truss connected at one end to the 47 core columns, at the other to the external steel support columns.
A plane entering there would have been physically impossible.
And yet, what do we have?
Look at this.
Jack White created from the Evan Fairbacks looking up.
The plane approaching the building, passing its entire length into the building in the same number of frames, it passed its entire length through air, which is, of course, preposterous unless a massive 500,000 ton steel and concrete building provides no more resistance to the trajectory of an aircraft in flight than air.
Have you noticed at the bottom left, the nose-out phenomenon, the nose of the plane popped out, indicating this can't possibly be real.
Something is going on.
And it was at this point when the nose-out phenomenon occurred that the station faded to black.
There'd been a hand-eye coordination problem here, and they wanted to conceal it from the public.
Here you actually can see now one of the videos.
Notice the nose out there at the end.
Notice the nose out.
There it is.
There it is, preposterous, simply preposterous.
Once again, of course, we had preposition explosive taking place.
Here's Alexander Baker, who created a brilliant critique of 9-11 entitled the 9-11 Psi Opera.
What would have actually happened with a real plane?
It would have crumpled external to the building.
Bodies, seats, luggage, wings, tail would have fallen to the ground.
The engines, which are virtually in destruction, would have entered the building, but not the rest.
Yet, we have photos and videos of the ground beneath the facades of both the North and the South Tower.
No bodies, no seats, no luggage, no wings, no tail.
It didn't happen.
You cannot have the cause without the effect.
If the effect is absent, so was the cause.
Meanwhile, an engine was planned, found at Church and Murray.
Jack White created this for me, but it's just sitting on the sidewalk.
It's underneath a steel scaffolding and a canopy, which are undamaged.
Now, think about it.
Anything as massive as an engine hitting that sidewalk at high velocity would have ripped it up.
It would have been destroyed for 10 or 15 feet, but it just sitting there.
Jack discovered Fox News footage of a van at this location where agents wearing FBI vests are unloading something heavy.
Experts have studied the features, and this was an antiquated engine not in use in Boeing 767s at the time.
In other words, it was a plant.
Meanwhile, the question becomes: how can we account for what actually happened here, the plane entering the building?
Rosalie Grabel suggests it was done with CGI.
Ace Baker suggested it was done with video compositing.
There's like a 17-second delay between the time footage is filmed and its release to the public during which the images could have been added.
Others, however, such as Richard D. Hall, with his Flight 175 3D radar analysis, arrived at a different conclusion.
There are some 52 videos of Flight 175 approaching, where around 27 of them are sufficiently precise.
You could create a series of plots of locations and times.
He created a series of plots and found that they had also been established by NIST, which was carrying the heavy water for the government.
But NIST claimed it was based on radar data, which he didn't find reliable.
On the other hand, he discovered there was a radar path, but it was for a plane that was 1,200 feet to the side, 1,200 feet to the side.
He thus concluded what had happened was a smaller plane, 1,200 feet to the side, that projected the image of a plane holographically, which would account for the impossible impact physics, because you're not talking about a real plane entering the building, the impossible speed, because a smaller plane could fly faster than a 767 projecting the image,
and that the radar didn't detect a plane in the observed position because there was no plane there for radio waves to bounce off of, only the real plane projecting the image.
Thus, this is the result of Richard D. Hall's analysis, which I endorse 100%.
Indeed, I was even sent a page from an Australian military manual for an airborne holographic projector.
Brief description.
The holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location removed from the display generator.
The projector can be used for psychological operations and strategic perception management.
It's also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary, in this case, for a psychological operation to deceive an unsophisticated adversary, namely the American public.
Meanwhile, get this too.
Flight 175 pilots discovered was also in the air after it had officially hit the South Tower over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
And I obtained FAA registration data and discovered that the two aircraft used for Flight 93 and 175 were not even deregistered or formally taken out of service until 28 September,
2005, raising the question of how can, in the case of 11 and 77, how can planes that weren't even in the air have crashed on 9-11?
And in relation to 93 and 175, how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
Thus, I submit, no plane Siri has been proven.
Flight 93 did not crash in Shangsville.
Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon.
Flight 11 did not hit the North Tower.
And Flight 175 did not hit the South.
Note, if no planes crashed, then no passengers died, and no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash.
And if no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash, then there was no warrant or any justification for the war on terror.
Meanwhile, we had Building 7, which has been the focus of so much attention by architects and engineers.
What we witnessed with Building 7, which actually did collapse seven hours after the destruction of the North Tower, following that of the South, came down in a classic controlled demolition.
All the floors coming down at the same time, roughly at the speed of free fall, and leaving in its wake a pile of debris equal to five and a half floors, which is what has been discovered from experiments and observations of controlled demolitions.
It leaves a pile of debris about equal to 12% of the original height.
In this case, Building 7 was 47 floors tall.
It would have been the tallest building in 37 states, but for being Overshadowed by the mammoth twin towers, where 12% of 47 floors is five and a half floors, which is what we had then, unlike with the north and the south towers,
which were destroyed to or even below ground level, as Father Frank Morales of St. Mark's Episcopal Church, who was a first responder, explained to me twice on my various radio shows, those buildings were destroyed to or even below ground level.
When had they collapsed, as the government claims, there ought to have been 12% of 110 floors, 13 and a half floors of debris for each.
It's not there because they did not collapse.
The BBC, meanwhile, Jane Stanley reporting, committed a blunder claiming that the Solomon Brothers building, another name for Building 7, because Solomon Brothers owned a big chunk of it, and the building was so robust that they even completely reconstructed their parts of the building with no adverse effects.
Reported at 4:57, the Solomon Brothers building had collapsed, not realizing it was visible in the background behind her, where she was 23 minutes ahead of schedule.
And she got off the script, which a BBC has never been able to explain.
Meanwhile, it turns out, through a fascinating series of studies, we now know that not only did the Twin Towers not collapse, but they were also actually taken out by sophisticated use of nuclear devices planted in the sub-basement that destroyed the inner tube.
Remember, this is a tube within a tube design.
So you got a 47 massive core columns as the inner tube, and then the 230 external support columns, the outer, destroyed the inner tube from the bottom up, which then had the effect of blowing apart the outer tube from the top down, which is what we observed on 9-11.
And the effects were devastating.
Look here, just devastating.
There's no way this could possibly have been a collapse.
Not only is there the absence of the 13 and a half floors of debris, but the buildings were converted into very fine dust, which covered lower Manhattan.
And the U.S. Geological Survey conducted studies of 35 samples of the dust and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
Lithium, lanthium, tritium, many of which, some of which only exist in radioactive form and where, by the way, converting materials into very fine dust is a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
And where, as Judy would appropriately observe, when Rudy Giuliani had 150 dump trucks show up in the morning the following day to begin hauling away the debris, over the objection of the fire commanders and others who wanted a forensic investigation of what had actually happened, They weren't just taking materials out.
They were bringing material in, namely hundreds of thousands of tons of dirt in order to absorb radioactive residue, which is precisely what happened in Chernobyl when the reactor there melted down.
The Soviets brought in hundreds of thousands of tons of dirt to absorb the radiation.
And of course, as a consequence, there are medical maladies that affected first responders and local residents in Chernobyl, which were replicated in New York, including exotic diseases, pancreatic, esophageal cancer, leukemia, multiple myeloma, where now at this point in time,
those effects have brought about the deaths of an estimated 70,000, none of whom would have been affected with these maladies had it been a collapse, which is only explicable on the use, on the basis of the use of nuclear devices.
So I thank you for this opportunity, which I had not anticipated.
Would that Alexander had been here to do his thing?
Meanwhile, if we have Aubertry, Gary, I'd be glad to take questions.
Can't hear you, Gary.
You're muted.
Let's see.
I'm looking at the chat right now.
All right.
There's no problem whatsoever.
Yeah. We.
We can take a brief break.
We can.
Yeah, the question is, it says from Kathy, it says, debris wasn't dropped from a plane.
It was dropped by the stroke of the computer-generated CIGs is what some person commented.
I mean, the debris on the Pentagon.
Yeah.
Well, it was actually there physically on the Pentagon.
And that piece, that one piece of debris, which is most convincing because it actually came from a Boeing 757, was saved up from the crash near Cali in 1995 for this occasion.
They may not have known at the time they did the salvage, it would be wind up on the Pentagon lawn, but there it is.
Other questions?
Other questions?
That's all they have?
That's good, Gary.
Well, listen, let's go ahead, close this, save it, and then we'll begin with our next presentation by John Coleman in just a few minutes hence.
All right, I'm going to stop here.
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