The Raw Deal (15 December 2025) with co-host Joe Olson and special featured guest, David Skrvina
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Somebody.
Not just anybody.
You know I need someone I'll open up the doors.
Help me if you can.
I'm feeling down.
And I do appreciate you being around.
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you please, please help me?
Oh, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 15th day of December, 2025.
Joan, joined by co-host Joe Olson and special featured guest David Scarbina, who gave a wonderful talk yesterday at my False Viking Conspiracy Conference 2025.
We begin with almost tabloid.
Hollywood director Rod Reimer, all in a family star dead at 78.
Very disturbing report here.
Bright Bart puts it this way.
Acclaimed actor-director Rob Reiner makers at Timeless Classics Stand By Me, the Princess Bride when Harry met Sally, one of my personal favorites, was reportedly found dead in his Brentwood home at the age of 78.
Police are investigating as a possible homicide.
Yes, yes, yeah.
Well, I dare say Rob and his wife didn't stab themselves to death.
TMZ broke the initial report that he and his wife, Michelle, were found dead in the Brentwood mansion.
That, of course, is where OJ resided, with wounds that were consistent with a knife.
Here's their quote.
Two dead bodies were found in Rob and Michelle's Brentwood home Sunday afternoon in law enforcement tell us it is the Reiners.
Our sources say the two suffered lacerations consistent with the knife.
The LAPD Robbery Homicide Division is still investigating.
Both Variety and the Hollywood reporter reported Reinmer's death, citing their initial reports.
We have another more informative from People Magazine.
Get this.
Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle, were killed by their son.
Exclusive sources.
Need to know Rob Reiner and wife, Michelle, singer Reiner, were found dead in their LA home on Sunday, December 14th.
Authorities responding to a medical aid call around 3.30 p.m. discovered the bodies.
Multiple sources believe that the killer was a couple son, Nick Reiner.
Nick Reiner previously spoke publicly about his long battle with drug addiction and periods of homelessness.
Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner, were killed by their son Nick, according to multiple sources who have spoken with family members.
Police have not yet confirmed the account.
We have a photograph of Nick, along with, of course, Rob and Michelle.
Joe, give me your thoughts.
Yeah, Benny Johnson also brought out the same information about the son being the prime suspect.
And he had segments of an interview that was done based on a Rob Reiner movie where the father was a really dark figure and deserved to be killed or whatever because he was trying to keep his son from being drug addicted.
And the son said, Man, you made this kind of one-dimensional, Dad.
You made it might lighten it up.
And so he changed whatever it was movie documentary that he was producing at that time.
So, but bottom line is we missed last week's program because we had a problem with solar flares interfering with email transmission.
I didn't get the link to the Zoom, but I want to mention something I was going to mention last week.
And this is a documentary that's about 20 minutes long, The Jezreel Valley, Zionist's Biggest Lie.
And it's about the land ownership during the Ottoman Empire.
It's really interesting.
I'll put a link to it in the comments so we don't need to discuss it any further now.
Well, there's an irony here because in my presentation on JFK Friday night, I was critiquing David Mandig's analysis of the shooters, on which I've done a huge amount of research.
And he had been citing, Joe, you want to mute because we get some background static from you.
Yeah, thanks.
He was citing four shooters, all of whom were mob shooters, as having done it and attributing that pining to Rob Reiner.
And, you know, I found that very odd.
I think he's wrong about the shooters based on my research, where I've done a huge amount.
So it was just ironic that here David was citing, you know, information about the shooters based upon Rob having done research in relation to JFK.
David, I'm interested in your take, such thoughts as you may have about this event.
It may be inconsequential from your point of view.
Please, anything, any thoughts?
Yeah, thanks.
I guess no real comments yet.
It's too early to really know much about what's going on there.
But yeah, you know, I mean, these guys live such a bizarre lifestyle, these, you know, Hollywood types and the actors.
And, you know, they're there awash with money.
And then you, yes, you're not surprised to hear about these drug problems.
And, you know, there's, I'm sure there's infighting and, you know, people are thinking about who's inheriting these millions of dollars these guys have.
And there's all kinds of little, you know, evil machinations going on.
And so, yeah, a little bit hard to say.
Probably it could be a mixture of a lot of different things in this case.
Yes, yes.
Obviously, they didn't have a good relationship.
Bloody, bloody shame.
I mean, he was a very talented director.
And of course, we all know from All in the Family where he was meathead to Archie Bunker, you know, which was an absolutely path-breaking, you know, precedent-setting film because it was displaying bigotry in an open fashion.
David, you might have thoughts about All in the Family.
Yeah, I always thought it was kind of an interesting, you know, yeah, like you say, sort of a sort of a standard-breaking film show back, whatever it was, in the 70s.
I kind of remember watching it and thinking it was a little bit outrageous and a little bit funny, but it's typical, you know, it's another typical Jewish sitcom, right?
They're pushing the boundaries, they're interjecting controversial themes, you know, getting the raunchy language out there.
And, you know, so that's very interesting.
You describe it as a Jewish sitcom.
Of course, never thought Archie obviously wasn't supposed to be Jewish.
You're saying it was developed from a Jewish perspective of how they wanted to present or characterize an American family.
Is that your intention?
Yeah, yeah.
Who's the norm?
Who was the producer director?
Norman Lear, Norman Lear.
Norman Lear, exactly.
Right.
So you're getting, and obviously it was Jewish production and so forth.
So I'm sure it was a, yeah, it was a, you know, Archie's a kind of a real oaf, right?
He's a bigoted, uh, ignorant oaf, you know, and he's the white guy.
And so, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it doesn't really portray the working white man in a very good light at all, unfortunately.
But yeah, that's how it goes.
Joe, go ahead, come back in, get, tell us your thoughts about all in the family.
Uh, yeah, I was just looking up the Archie Bunker connection.
I thought maybe Rob's father was the director, but you're right, it's Norman Lear.
So that's what that's what I was pursuing.
But yeah, 100% Jewish production.
And interestingly enough, Jimmy Doerr had a comment today.
His title on his YouTube video is Hamas, parentheses, Mossad, to stage false flag attacks in Europe soon.
And this is a quote that he has from a 60-minute interview from a Mossad agent.
We create a pretend world.
We are a global production company.
We write the screenplay.
We select the directors.
We provide the producers and the main actors.
And that's exactly what's been going on.
And so, bottom line, you have this theater.
Maybe they're going to take a little bit of a pause because Benny Johnson did a segment of interview with LAPD homicide on this.
And they said they couldn't release any information.
They didn't have a warrant.
They couldn't go in and inspect what was going on, blah, Maybe they're trying to manufacture some kind of MAGA connection so the son can be portrayed as a white supremac.
Who knows?
But bottom line is a very telling interview in 60 minutes with, and I'll put a link to this YouTube video as well with the Mossad agent.
Yeah.
This is, of course, purely speculative, but I got a fellow with long law enforcement experience who was perhaps the first to inform me.
And he said, cases like this sometimes involve pedophilia.
You'd hate to think Rob Briner might have had any relations with his son that were appropriate.
It sounds to me as though there's probably sufficient explanation with the son being drug addicted and the father trying to stop the son from his addiction.
I mean, addicts can go completely bananas if they're denied their fix.
David, thoughts about that?
Yeah, again, it's so early in the process, hard to really tell.
But yeah, it could easily just be kind of a drug addict problem.
He's acting out of some hallucination or some kind of repressed rage.
You don't know what's going on.
So yeah, it's pretty hard to say until we get more details there.
Well, consistent with Joe's observations about Ossad agent you're saying, Joe, about there being a worldwide production company.
We got an event in Sydney that looks to me like a stage event.
Live update, please say Jewish community targeted a deadly Sydney attack.
Now, think about the timing and the contacts.
Israel is under massive repudiation by the world community for the genocide.
Anti-Israel sentiment has never been higher.
The old victim card of the Holocaust, which was mythical from the beginning to the end, has been overplayed.
People no longer feel sympathy for Israel.
So it looks to me like the timing here makes this a perfect occasion to try to resurrect sympathy for Israel.
Here we got the New York Times.
Australian police are investigating Sydney shooting as terrorism.
Australian officials, father and son killed at least 15 people at a Jewish holiday celebration.
More than three dozen people were hospitalized, including a surviving gunman.
Then we got more live update.
This is again from the New York Times.
This is, it's a repeat, actually.
I may have had a separate story, but didn't capture the link.
Meanwhile, Daily Mail, which is, you know, awfully good at photo coverage.
So here they got a whole lot about it.
Ethel climbs at 12 in Bondi Beach terror attack, and a homemade bomb is uncovered by cops after two gunmen opened fire on innocent beachgoers during Jewish festival.
It, of course, had to be a Jewish festival.
Witnesses that two men stepped out of a vehicle on Campbell Parade near Bondi Pavilion and opened fire about 6.40 p.m. Sunday with footage showing a blast after blast on the tourist strip.
Some witnesses reported more than 30 shots.
Videos and photos taken by a daily mail photographer show a gunman later identified as Navid Akram 24 from Bonerig in Sydney's Southwest opening fire from an elevated bridge.
Now, I'm not going to be surprised if these guys turn out to be Arabs or even Iranians, right?
I mean, they're going to want to have the right target here.
A festival for Hanukkah, of course, named Hanukkah by the Sea, advertised as the night of family fun, was taking place with children attending the event when a gunman, one of whom was on the terror list and known to authorities, opened fire.
Up to 29 injured persons, including two police in critical condition and a child, have been taken to various hospitals in Sydney.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has condemned the shooting, which has been confirmed as an act of terrorism.
This is a targeted attack on Jewish Americans on the first day of Hanukkah, which should be a day of joy, a celebration of faith, he said.
And looking at the guy, I mean, he's going to turn out to be Middle Eastern.
I really have no doubt.
There is a video here.
Let's see what we get in terms of coverage.
Oh, I got to get this sound up.
Ben, Ben.
Well, there seems to be.
Shooting.
North Bonda Bridge behind the pavilion.
have big guns and they're just
me find yet another story here about it before we continue.
We go shooting, shooting, shooting.
two of them right there together straight away wow you don't have often have that kind of evidence Meanwhile, we have Dr. Catherine Horton sharing why she believes this is a false flag.
Bonnie Beach looks like an entirely staged false-like operation by Australian Intel, she writes.
Note how Grandad in the white shirt doesn't duck, even though the gunman fires rounds in his direction.
Guy who wrestles the rifle from the supposed terrorist doesn't pop a single cap into the terrorist ass is totally unafraid.
The terrorists might pull a handgun on him, as shown in BBC footage.
One of the prominent photos being circulated shows a symbol of an all-seen eye, camera on the cell phone, and the symbol for taking, talking to handlers, talking on the phone, the crown, see crest on guy's sweater, and the symbol of Omurta, vow of silence, with a woman holding her hand over her mouth, laying out the covert program.
See below.
Note that Australian police cars are plastered with Masonic tiling checkers in case you're wondering how they coordinate all this.
These shooters and crisis actors are just as hired by the Five Eyes Intel Networks, U.S., Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, as all the other terrors.
The Australian intel agencies have to promote the Islamist terror shtick again for the five eyes.
That's pretty impressive for an initial analysis.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, just looking up Hanukkah, it's a celebration of a second century BC revolution against the Persian Empire, who King Nebanekzir had come in and burnt down the original child sacrifice synagogue in 586 BC.
And so that's why they've had a 2,500-year-long grudge against Persia.
But yeah, this is really interesting because then they turned around and built the second temple.
And then the Romans came in and burnt the second temple in 79 AD.
And so then that gave them a reason to have a lifelong blood liable grudge against Romans and particularly Roman Catholics and Christians.
So there you go.
It's, you know, just part of the wonderful chosen few get to do whatever they want to do.
David.
Yeah, a couple.
I guess I hadn't heard this false flag theory before, but there are some funny things about the event, right?
I mean, it's surprising.
There was a photographer right there on the scene ready to take those nice pictures.
That's pretty lucky timing there, I guess, right?
And I understood that people were on a beach when they were shot.
But if you're standing on that little bridge, I don't see any clear line of sight to any beach from that area.
So I'm wondering who exactly those guys were shooting at.
Maybe someone could probably work out those logistics.
Another thing is the shooters in Australia, they probably don't have a lot of Arabs, but they have a lot of Southeast Asian Muslims.
So I'm assuming that's what these guys will be found out, or at least claim to be some kind of Muslims from Malaysia or wherever they're.
But more interesting, I think, is a lot of people don't realize.
Maybe you remember in the news about a week ago, Australia was in the news because of the social media was blocked to six under 16 year olds.
Do you remember that, Jim?
Yeah, go ahead.
And so what they, a very little known, I mean, it sounds great.
Okay, keep the kids away from social media, but a little known aspect of that maneuver was they're talking about rolling out a system where they have to use camera ID of the computer user to confirm whether they're a kid or not.
And the computer social media users may have to submit documentation.
So, you know, their own photo ID or passports to be able to use the social media.
So what it really is, it seems to be the social media for the kids is like a Trojan horse to get the Australian government to force social media users of all ages to identify themselves to keep people from doing anything anonymously.
So I know there's people in Australia that were significantly worried about this invasion of privacy that was going to come out of this Child Protection Act.
And they were worried that one of the things that they were going to do was they're going to use it to highlight and go after critics of Israel because now you couldn't do it anonymously because you were going to be identified by face or by papers when you go on social media.
And I find it's very, very odd that just a week later, now suddenly we have this slaughter of the Jewish community, which is going to give an extra incentive to crack down on any critics of Israel or so-called hate speech and criticism of the genocide.
That's all going to be accelerated.
So these two events working together are really very, very suspicious timing, I guess I would say.
Oh, I think you're 100% correct.
And here's where it all pans out: Winter Watch reporting.
Anti-Semitism is now being labeled a national security threat.
So to criticize Israel for conducting genocide, that's a national security threat.
Give me a break.
Here we have DD Geopolitics at the Hudson Institute event, literally titled Anti-Semitism as a National Security Threat.
Hoover fellow Cole Bunzel openly warned that students, he mentors at Stanford will tell you that Nick Fuendes has popularity.
But once you label something a national security threat, the consequences are not academic.
When the U.S. places an issue inside a national security block, it unlocks the entire counterterrorism apparatus, surveillance, intel collection, FBI task force, DHS extremism unit, tech platform enforcement funding, pipelines, and speech restriction disguises safety members.
Yes, I think that's what's going on here, and it's monstrous.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yes, well, Texas was forced supposedly for voter ID purposes and in order to have a national registration to have digital ID verified birth certificates for driver's licenses with House Bill 71 in 2023.
Well, this year, Senate Bill 2420 said that you couldn't get any download any apps unless you were over 16 years old.
In order to prove that, you also have to have digital IDs.
So apparently Texas is in lockstep, maybe even ahead of Australia, because under the pretense of preventing 16-year-olds from being able to view things, and also Pornhub is completely banned in the state of Texas, which doesn't bother me at all, but I'm sure somebody's upset about that.
But bottom line is we've got these social nannies that have decided which pen they want to pin us in, and they're just gradually putting together the corral fences to make sure we never get out.
And that's what's happening.
And it's ridiculous.
The state of Texas doesn't need to have control over apps and give Palantir the control over everything that you ever do and have 100% access to all of your medical, legal, financial records.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Yes, I think David's right too that when they need some event to justify some measure that would otherwise be regarded as extremely inappropriate, unconstitutional, not to mention unwise or immoral, like these kinds of restraints on freedom of speech, they just manufacture it.
They just pull a rabbit out of a hat.
It is disgraceful.
And it happens again and again and again.
David.
Yeah, right.
I mean, not much more to say to that.
Yeah, just these events are terribly convenient for those who want to attack people's freedoms and, you know, push through a lot of identification protocols and things and really just to stifle criticism.
They just, I think they know they're losing badly on that front and they're getting desperate, right?
They're going to try to do whatever they can to block the criticism because they're losing.
They're just losing left, right, and center.
And I will be right back with Joe Olson and Dave, you know, right here on the Vodium.
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Well, you can't make this stuff up.
It's anti-Semitic to call out Israel genocide, says the Guardian, a major British newspaper.
How outrageous.
So you got a nation, a group committing mass murder.
But if they call it out, then you're supposed to be some kind of racist?
This is just profoundly wrong, embarrassing, insulting.
Here's what's written.
On the matter of anti-Semitism, we're now so far down the rabbit hole that the word no longer need any reference to hating Jews.
Even the supposedly liberal Guardian uses a term unquestioningly to mean being nasty about Israel.
A state of genocidal behavior toward the Palestinian people over the past two years should mean it's almost impossible to say anything too nasty about it.
Take the following absurd headline from the paper: London venue appalled after anti-Semitic imagery allegedly screened at Primal Scream gig.
Roundhouse apologizes after animation projected behind Mana Beer to show Star of David entwined with swastika.
Let's deconstruct this headline.
No, sir, no quote marks around anti-Semitic mean that Bab takes it as read that the imagery is indeed anti-Semitic.
There are quote marks around appalled indicating that the London venue, the Roundhouse, is being directly quoted rather than paraphrased.
And the word allegedly is included throughout the article for legal reasons and relates to the matter of the screening, not the imagery.
Presumably, in case the Roundhouse claim that the band Primal Scream displayed the image, it turns out to be factually incorrect.
So what was this unquestionably anti-Semitic imagery?
The story explains that Primal Scream projected a video onto a screen behind the band during their concert earlier this month in which a swastika merged with a star of David, the symbol on the Israeli flags flying from tanks in Gaza.
The Guardian uncritically reports, a spokesperson for the Roundhouse said they were appalled that anti-Semitic imagery was displayed at the venue and that it had apologized to the wider Jewish community.
Yes, we can't be apologetic enough for noticing they're slaughtering mass numbers of people to steal their land.
The paper does nothing to distance itself as it should have done from this association.
For example, it could have reported the incident as follows.
A spokesperson for the Roundhouse said was appalled at what it claimed was a display of anti-Semitic imagery.
One can debate whether entwining the swastika with the star of David is in bad taste, given that Israel chose to turn a Jewish symbol, the Star of David, into its national emblem on its flag and on its warplanes.
Remember, though, that was Israel that unintentionally created this confusion, not Primal Scream, not Israel's critics.
One can also accept that Jews who identify with Israel probably found the screened image offensive.
The question is whether we should prioritize caring about offending those Jews and non-Jews who identify with Israel, even as it continues to slaughter and starve children in Gaza, more than we care about the Palestinian being murdered by the state warship by Israel's supporters.
I would suggest these priorities are utterly back to affront.
What a nice article, David.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, I saw that one, Jim.
I thought that was pretty well done.
You got to go down to the bottom there and show the actual image, right?
They later determined it was Netanyahu with a couple of swastika stars over his eyeballs, right?
It's right down there at the bottom, I think.
At least it wasn't.
Yeah, I'll look for it.
I thought I completed the article, but you're right, there's more here.
Yeah, just at the very bottom, he did a little appendix.
I think at the last second, he found somebody sent him an image.
There it is.
Yeah.
Oh, there it is.
So that's that's the offensive image that we're all worked up about.
Yeah, it's a star of David with a swastika in the center.
Yeah, exactly.
So somebody stylized little swastikas in the center of the Star of David.
So that's, yeah, it's kind of a cute, clever little design.
Makes Netanyahu look pretty devilish, which of course he is.
So that's entirely appropriate.
I mean, I'm always, I'm always have to laugh when the Jewish groups get offended because no one is a bigger masters of giving offense than Jews.
You know, you think of the Jews in Hollywood and on TV and, you know, and so forth.
They love to give offense, you know, but they don't take offense at all.
They don't take it well at all.
So they'll dish it up and they won't take it.
And suddenly everything's, you know, one little imagery like this and it's caused for a big uproar and, you know, a story in the paper and far more attention than it really deserves.
And not to mention to me, I mean, when you see this little kind of merging of the star and the swastika, to me, that's an offense to the Germans, for Christ's sakes.
You know, you're tainting their image with this Jewish, you know, nonsense.
So, yeah.
Joe.
Yes.
Well, just like we mentioned earlier from the Mosad, we create a pretend world.
We are a global production company.
Strangely enough, in 1996, in Dunbank, Scotland, a guy did a school massacre, killed 18 kids, wounded 15.
Then in Port Arthur, Tasmania, there was a really questionable event in 1996.
And both of those resulted in a UK ban on firearms, almost total ban, and Australia, highly restricted ban on firearms down in Australia.
So really odd thing is that I was having a wonderful vacation with Lady Good Baby in London.
And we were just sitting around watching the BBC News one day.
And they said there's an armed robbery and shooting going on in a McDonald's in London.
I went, oh my God.
And I said, I thought this never happened in your country.
And she goes, it never does.
That's why it's live on news.
And sure enough, an unarmed British bobby had been shot.
A female bobby had been shot by some guy that was trying to rob a McDonald's and ended up shooting several other people.
And so while she's telling me how this hardly ever happens, I opened up my computer and said, gun crimes in Britain, over 30,000 gun crimes a year.
They said, well, yeah, since we don't have any control over our borders, we have no control over what's being imported in the way of drugs and weapons.
And so there's an ample amount of firearms available on the street.
As a legal citizen, you have to have a locked safe.
You have to have an inspection at a moment's notice by the legal authorities.
You can't have anything more than a half dozen shotgun shells.
You can only have a shotgun if you're going out and shooting clay pigeons or pheasant hunting.
And so bottom line is they've made gun ownership completely ridiculous.
And then at the same time, there was a man whose home was being burglarized in London.
And he was upstairs with his wife and two young daughters.
And he heard the guy banging around downstairs.
And he goes down and the guy starts stabbing him.
And he's struggling with the guy.
He reaches over to get the only thing he had as a way of a weapon was an end iron for the fireplace.
And he hit the guy once with the end iron.
And the guy kind of dropped the knife and he hit him a second time just to make sure that the guy was incapacitated enough.
He ended up getting fined over 100,000 pounds for excessive use of force and got 18 months in jail because he was protecting his home.
At that point, I knew there was no way I could live in a country that obsessed with stupidity.
Yes, yes, I think that's exactly right, Joe.
The protection for the criminals leaves the civilians or victims unprotected and vulnerable.
It's outrageous.
Meanwhile, get this.
Norm Feinkelstein, Jews believe they can do no wrong.
Let's listen to him.
This guy is just a wonderful twin.
It can't be that we might be doing something wrong because Jews can do no wrong.
It has to be anti-Semitism because Jews can do no wrong.
And that's an ego, the stupefying narcissism, uncontrolled, uncontrolled, out of control.
And that's Israel.
I think it brought into relief a deeply pathological and ugly aspect of Israeli society, which people wanted to marginalize.
As in, yes, Israel did this wrong, Israel did that wrong.
You know, all states do terrible things.
But I think it goes beyond that.
There is, I think about it a lot.
There's a real, it's not even a sickness, it's an ugliness, an ugly, ugly underside, which started to come out in Israel's last assault on Gaza, when they started to post on the web the videos of their enthusiasm as they destroyed Palestinian
homes.
homes, as they humiliated and degraded Palestinian women and Palestinian men.
If you look at the last report from the UN Human Rights Council, the commission that wrote the report was chaired by Navi Palai, who is the former High Commissioner for Human Rights.
And in her legal conclusions, she accused Israel of two crimes against humanity.
One was the crime of extermination.
But there was a second one which was quite interesting.
It was the crime of persecution.
And the persecution was not of women.
It was the crime against humanity of persecution to Muslim men and boys.
This systematic targeting of the men, the males in Gaza for moral and physical degradation.
And I came, this is a side note, I came as a result of watching what was unfolding in Gaza.
If you remember, and this is not the past tense, it's the present tense too.
They always said number of women and children killed as if women and children was a proxy for civilians.
So in normal human rights reports, they have two categories: combatants and civilians.
But in the unfolding horror in Gaza, the two categories became women and children on one side, men on the other.
Not civilians versus combatants, but women and children versus men, as if every male in Gaza was a legitimate target.
I think that's quite astute.
David, your thoughts.
I mean, then Norman Bingolstein really is a wise man, objective critic of Israel and an authoritative figure in this situation.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, I'm slightly more skeptical about Norm.
I've met him twice in person over the years, listened to him talk at least three times in person.
So he talks a good game.
He likes to expose things, but he seems to be, to me, a little bit of a safe critic, a little bit in this region of controlled opposition, because he never really goes to the logical end and talks about what should be done in the face of all these horrors that he likes to talk about.
I remember when I was able to talk to him personally, I asked him about Zionism.
I said, Norm, define for me Zionism and are you a Zionist?
And he refused to answer.
He talked for about 20 minutes in front of a large group of people, refused to answer either question.
So when he was done talking, I put it to him again as like a follow-up.
I said, you did not even answer the question.
What is a Zionist?
And are you one of those?
Again, he talked for 20 minutes, refused to answer the question.
So you really get the idea that he somehow believes, I think he is a Zionist.
He basically thinks, yeah, the Jews have the right to this land.
Yeah, we probably have better ways to do it than just to slaughter people.
Maybe he wants to be a kinder and gentler Zionist, but he doesn't really seem to, he doesn't really seem to object to the whole project.
He doesn't want Israel to stop.
He doesn't want Israel to go away.
He doesn't want to prosecute the rulers.
So I think he's a relatively safe critic of the Israeli state.
That's my take.
That's wonderful.
That's a great addition.
Lends a lot of insight to who this guy really is.
Joe, your thoughts.
You know, there are some Jewish people that are very secular and actually part of the truth of it.
One of them would be Max Blumenthal at the Gray Zone.
And there's a guy named Kay that's there.
I don't remember what his first name is right now, and I can't seem to find it on Google.
And then also Jimmy Dore is also Jewish.
So and there's there's a lot of Jewish.
I didn't know that.
Jimmy Doar is just my absolute favorites.
He's so damn good at cutting through the smoke and mirrors.
Go ahead, Joe.
Tell us more.
Yeah, well, that's the whole thing.
Those are the allies that we really need to build are the ones that were steeped and raised in that particular menu, Millai, whatever, and then have decided that it's inappropriate in the 21st century to be treating the rest of humanity that way.
And so they've turned against them, and they actually have a lot of panish as far as dealing with these people because they came from the tribe and they are showing you the defects of the tribe, and they can speak the tribe's language.
And so it makes it really effective.
So, bottom line is: yeah, you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
And fortunately, there's some nice Jewish babies out there that are joining the right side of history.
So, we can only pray that that movement continues.
Yes.
Here's a nice observation from responsible statecraft: the Jewish attitude.
If they're not human, we don't have to follow the law.
New book points out that this is now about the narco boat, but it might as well be the Palestinians.
Story's a familiar one.
The U.S. has always determined who's morally disqualified from the rules.
Kill everybody was what actually Secretary of War Hegseth aboardly instructed a special ob commander as illegal drug smugglers were being tracked off the Trinidad coast.
A missile strike set the boat ablaze.
Two survivors were seen clinging to what was left of their vest, so a second U.S. strike finish them off.
These extrajudicial killings on September 2nd were the first in the Trump admin campaign to incinerate narco-terrorists, except it hadn't been shown.
Nobody knew what they were transporting.
There was no due process.
Over the past two months, at least 80 have been killed in more than 20 attacks on the demonstrably false ground that the Venezuelan government is a major source of drugs flowing into the United States.
Because it's supposed that drug runners are participating in an armed conflict against the U.S., they are not entitled to due process or other protections, such as those afforded to shipwrecked individuals under the laws of war.
The admin content: every trafficker we kill is affiliated with a designated terrorist organization, eggs at charge on eggs.
Language serves more than a strictly legal justification.
The term narco-terrorist is meant to dehumanize and desensitize their conduct.
Murder, terrorism, poisoning American bodies morally disqualifies them and therefore justifies extraordinary punishment.
The possibility that harmless fishermen are being blown to pieces must not weaken our leaders' resolve to defend the nation.
This is capturing what's going on here very well.
David, your thoughts.
Yeah, very interesting.
I think, again, that's a very Jewish outlook: this idea of dehumanizing the other.
There's a whole interesting component to this where you look into Jewish theology and to the Talmud, where non-Jews are routinely dehumanized.
I talked a little bit about this yesterday at my presentation about this sort of Jewish supremacy that reigns from within the Old Testament and even worse in the Talmud.
But yeah, you basically have a lot of explicit statements in the Talmud that says non-Jews are really not even people.
They're not really even humans.
They're just animals and therefore rules do not apply.
Rules of law, rules of morality just do not apply.
And that would actually be an interesting show.
Maybe sometime we could talk through some of these nice little Talmudic passages just so people can see exactly what they are.
It's really pretty shocking what's in there.
And yeah, then you justify anything that you want.
So it's a very Judaic approach to declare somebody a terrorist and therefore they're some kind of a subhuman and therefore we can just do whatever we want to just kill you.
It's not even within the rule of law.
That's a very, very approach.
And here you have the United States doing that to Venezuelan citizens.
I mean, this is grotesque.
What a perversion of the principles on which this nation is supposed to be founded.
Joe, your thoughts.
Joe.
Speaking of the conference yesterday, on Saturday, I did my presentation on allopathic medicine, medical fraud, and it was pretty outstanding.
I want to mention in our closing remarks today about the undeclared endemic Chagas disease in the United States.
And we'll get into a brief discussion of that.
But bottom line is I'll put some links to my conference presentation when it's posted.
So as soon as it's posted, let me know so I can put multiple links up there because I had way amounts of research that I put into that.
Excellent.
No, I was very, very happy with the conference presentations.
Everyone came through.
It was excellent.
Meanwhile, we got Britain threatening to defund the International Criminal Court over Yahoo arrest warrant.
Claims prosecutor.
This actually published in the Guardian.
The British government threatened to defund the International Criminal Court and leave the Rome's statute that set it up if it pressed Edward plans to issue an arrest warrant against Benjamin Yahoo.
This is dated December 11th.
The ICC prosecutor has claimed Karim Khan made the allegation and submission to the court defending his decision to prosecute Israel prime minister.
Obviously, the guy deserves it.
How can this even be debatable?
Khan does not name the individual who made the threat, saying that call at 23 April 2024 was a British official.
But reports have suggested Caller may have been the then British Foreign Secretary David Cameron.
Khan said the official had argued that issuing arrest warrants against Yahoo and Yov Galant, the former Israeli defense minister, was disproportionate.
God, how obnoxious is that?
The slaughter of the Palestinians is disproportionate in relation to October 7th.
That's what ought to be talked about.
Genocide in response to a killing during a raid, which was actually arranged by the Israelis, where they killed more of those who died on October 7th than Hamas even thought of killing.
Khan also claimed that in April 2024, he was warned by U.S. officials there would be disastrous consequences if he were to issue the warrants.
But Khan, faced with calls to delay, insisted during the call, there'd been no sign the Israeli government was willing to come cooperate with the ICC or change its behavior.
He claimed in a further call on 1 May, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham warned him that a blind arrest warrant in Hamas may as well shoot Israeli hostages as Lindsey Graham is such a scumbag.
Khan said he learned for the first time about sexual misconduct allegations against him on 2 May.
On 2 May, as well as shooting.
Go ahead David, I gotta take this.
Go ahead.
Um yeah, I guess not.
Again, not terribly surprising the uh, the UK really is uh, really uh, entrapped by their Jewish lobby about, like we are here.
Um, so I'm not surprised that they pander to Netanyahu's best interests and they want to protect him every way possible.
So yeah, I think I think people everywhere are pretty disgusted with Starmer.
He's just a spineless yeah, spineless unprincipled uh you know token leader that stands there and spouts Pro-Israel, Pro-Netanyahu statements.
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Well, here's a short take on BB.
We can't be kind of rehashing and rehashing history, but we also have to look to the history and the relationships and the power dynamics that exist today in order to figure out how we can break the unwavering support for Israel.
So what have you discovered is the source of the West's current enabling of Israel?
And then once we discuss that, then you can tell us how we can end it.
And we'll be done with the problem within this interview.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, but you know, it's a list.
People reel off this list.
You know, imperialism, the fact that Israel is a local agent in a resource-rich region.
It does as it's told.
It acts for imperialist designs in important arena.
So that's one.
Secondly, guilt about anti-Semitism, the Holocaust, we owe them kind of idea.
You know, there's that.
Thirdly, the lobby, the Israel lobby.
So, you know, it's no good looking for any other reason other than the fact that the lobby is so active and it's so strong.
Christian Zionism is another one.
You know, now, my problem with all this is, I'm sure it's part of the story.
I'm sure all these are aspects that make up the support for Israel.
But I just don't feel it's enough.
They don't explain enough.
It is unprecedented historically, I believe.
The support for Israel, which runs so deep, it's so entrenched.
People are self-censoring themselves.
They're terrified of being called anti-Semitic.
The extent of it, the depth of it, staggering, is staggering.
And I don't know that any one of those causes is sufficient.
So you think there's something that we're not looking at?
Or do you think it's a common, it's the, the question is, it's a path, what is it?
The sum is greater than its parts?
I think, yes, that's what I think.
There are all aspects of explanation.
They are all parts of explanations.
But if you put them all together, it is still not sufficient.
Or at least, put it another way, why aren't we talking about this?
Why aren't we perhaps investigating?
Perhaps they are sufficient.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe my sense that there's something more going on, and it's very deep.
It goes very deep.
I think it's very psychological.
And it's very, it's really quite sinister in a way.
I think that something that is unique, because there's a whole debate, right, about how unique is Israel.
And one of the things about Israel is it's slightly anachronistic, right, in terms of the chronology and the history.
It was created when a lot of other nations were going through decolonization.
But I do think that there is, in terms of perniciousness, I think that something that is unique to Israel and makes the pro-Israel propaganda especially strong is this really like potent combination of ethno-nationalism, Jewish supremacy, and also that tied up with the discourse of liberal democracy and identity politics.
So it's about, it's not about Jews occupying lands or ethnically cleansing people.
It's about Jewish self-determination.
It's about sovereignty, right?
And I put, I feel, these obviously go in big quotation marks because it's not that, but that's what it's been rebranded as.
And I do think that, you know, we can't underestimate the way elites have leveraged the trauma and tragedy of history to whitewash current ethnic cleansing and genocide.
I mean, I think that's what part of what makes it so sordid and also so effective, right?
If it weren't for the Holocaust, Israel's actions would be seen for what they are.
It's hard to put into words the horrors that we've witnessed every day during our time here.
Entire families come.
Very good.
And as I've said about the Holocaust, if you've done the research, you're either a Holocaust denier or a big fat liar.
So it's just astonishing.
I mean, I'm very appreciative of what she's doing here to expose why there's this favorable attitude toward Israel, which it does not deserve.
David, expand.
Yeah.
Yeah, some interesting comments there.
We can't be kind of rehashing and keep going.
Yeah.
Yeah, some of what I think I would agree with some of what she was saying, right?
There's a sort of a guilt complex.
People feel sorry because of the war, past persecutions.
People buy the Holocaust conventional Holocaust story, and they think that somehow, therefore, they have to support Israel no matter what crimes they do today, which makes no logical sense.
It's ridiculous, even if you believe the original story, which is full of holes.
So, but yeah, some deeper, I don't, I'm not sure I buy this deeper psychological, sinister, I don't know what this sounds like, very mystical, magical kind of stuff going on.
I mean, to me, the cause of the influence is really just money.
Let's just put it bluntly.
It's just there's so much money on the pro-Jewish side that they can buy or bribe pretty much anybody to do pretty much anything.
And therefore, they can crush all dissent.
They can fire people at will.
They can, you know, they can leverage lawyers and judges, whatever they need.
So, to me, it's always, I've always seen it as just a sort of brute matter of money, money power that people are able to wield against, you know, millions and billions of dollars against regular people like us who have no chance because we don't have those kind of assets to respond with.
So, yeah, that's to me, that's the root of the problem.
If you don't, if you don't expose the money, follow the money trail.
I don't, I'm not sure you'll get get much, make much progress on this thing.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, Katie Halper is another one of those Jewish ladies that's gotten on the right side of history.
And remember, we're talking about we are a global production company.
So, let's flash forward to another little trauma-based mind control event.
That's the London July 7th train bombings in 2005 that killed 52 and wounded 700, supposedly done by four Islamic terrorists, so they could get all of the UK on board with more war against the Islamists.
Meanwhile, we're destroying the Islamic countries and forcing migration into Europe and encouraging migration into Europe to destroy those countries.
You want a great example of how duplicitous every branch of the government is.
Aaron and Melissa Dykes have Truth Stream Media, and they did a video about five or 10 years ago on a 2001 July NASA program called Future Wars 2025, in which they state that in order for their direct quote, in order for there to be continuation of government, the public needs to have trauma-based mind control.
And Presto, three months after that event happened with NASA, boom, we ended up getting 9-11.
So, bottom line is that's what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with a production company that is staging a lot of these events.
And what they don't stage, they can marinate in their own little narrative and make it part of their agenda so that you have this continuous flow of treachery on the part of the government that's in turn trying to say that they can protect you from treachery.
The whole hypothesis to everything that's involved in government is absolutely absurd.
David has done some extraordinary work on Christianity as his book, The Jesus Hoax.
He spoke a bit about it yesterday during his presentation.
The very idea, David, you suggest that the Jews created Christianity to be a sop for Judaism.
In other words, to get those who would be their natural enemies to turn the other cheek, to be willing to accept all kinds of abuses by the Jews, I think is rather ingenious hypothesis.
And moreover, you made a point about Christian Zionism that I had not fully fathomed to wit that the Christian Zionist believes that at a certain point the Jews are going to convert to Christianity.
How absurd is that?
David, that is idiotic.
Why would anyone think that would ever happen?
I mean, it's just preposterous.
I want you to elaborate because this is so stunning.
Yeah, it is.
It's really outrageously absurd, right?
But, you know, this is the Christian Zionist thinking.
These guys are the, you know, the most muddled up, mixed up, confused people on the face of the earth, I think.
And, you know, they're such fundamentalist believers in this Jesus story and this idea that Jesus is there going to save you and I get to live forever in heaven.
I mean, they're so caught up in this cultic idea that they really think that, you know, everybody needs to convert.
Everybody's got to be persuaded.
And then they pick on these couple of passages.
I mentioned the one in Romans 11, 25 yesterday.
We talked about this one where it's a kind of a cryptic sort of passage.
And then the Christian Zionists say, well, look, there's proof.
All the Jews are going to convert to Christianity.
And then Jesus is coming back.
So we need to help the Jews all convert.
I mean, it's just, it's like insanity, right?
I mean, idiotic.
It is.
It is idiotic.
I'm just floored by that.
Really?
I mean, I mean, it is.
But, you know, yes, I mean, it's doubly, doubly, triply idiotic, right?
Because the story, when you, like I say, this is what I make the case in the Jesus hoax book.
When you go back and look at the origins of how things got set up and who was writing these stories and the letters from Paul and when they were written and when the gospels were written, you know, this stuff comes out years, decades later after this Jesus character supposedly is, you know, walking on earth and raising the dead and parting seas and feeding thousands of people.
And nobody's ever heard word one about this guy until 40 years later.
And then suddenly they dig up these miracle stories and they dig up exact extended quotations of what this guy supposedly said.
I mean, the whole thing is such a bunch of nonsense.
It's only explicable as a kind of a construction, as a kind of a bogus story or a lie or a hoax that was that was crafted to get people to be sympathetic to the Jewish side, get them away from the Roman side and try to help undermine the foundations of the Roman Empire in the Middle East.
That's really the only thing that makes sense.
If you subtract the miracles, which are preposterous, I mean, they're miracles because they're violations of laws of nature that cannot be violated and cannot be changed and require no enforcement.
If you subtract the miracle stories, what is left to commend Jesus?
I mean, I still regard a lot of what are said to be his teaching as of significant moral importance.
But I'm wondering, what is left of the Jesus story when you subtract the miracles, David?
Yeah, well, right.
The miracles are important because you got to establish that he is a demigod, right?
He's a God-man, and that makes him some special category.
It's a very old category.
It goes back to Homer at least.
So we're talking 800 years prior to Jesus, right?
The Greeks put their preferred figures in this demigod role where they're half God, half man, sort of a sort of a creature.
And so you have to believe that this guy has some superpowers to really follow him.
He's not just a moral leader, he's a spiritual, you know, son of God, God being himself, which really forces you, compels you to follow him.
So, I mean, that's again a typical strategy that was done for hundreds of years.
The other thing is, you're right, there is some wisdom in these moral sayings, these alleged moral sayings of Jesus, but there's nothing unique there.
There's nothing new, there's nothing unique.
Those are very old moral ideas.
They're grounded in Greek philosophy and Roman philosophy, in some cases, you know, Persian or other Middle Eastern ideas.
So, I mean, they're relatively straightforward, you know, ethical precepts, nothing blindingly, brilliantly new that would only come from a God.
I mean, that's what you would expect if this guy was really some God man who's giving us these fantastic new moral codes, but you don't see that.
You just see the same old kind of ideas that have been around for you know for ages.
Joe, unmute, please, dude, unmute and join.
Give us some of your preliminary thoughts about what we have just been addressing.
Yeah, well, first of all, uh, Hebrew happens to be one of the few continuously written languages from that period of time, along with early Greek.
And we weren't able to decipher hieroglyphics in Egypt until we got the Rosetta Stone, and that was like in the 1820s.
So, a lot of pre-Judean mythologies went unrecorded.
And then we managed to figure out how to read the tuna farms of the Sumerians.
And turns out a lot of the best Bible stories were created 1,500 years before a single word of Jewish Hebrew was ever spoken.
So, we have that little bit of problem.
Then, in you got Genesis, you got two sons of Adam and Eve, and that's Cain and Abel.
And Abel was the one that was an organic gardener, and he was the one that was producing a very productive garden.
And Cain was a shepherd, and Cain produced sheep.
And so, God said, I want you both to give me a sacrifice.
So, Abel brought baskets full of produce and laid them on the altar.
And Cain brought a lamb and slattered on the altar.
And God says, I like what Cain brought me.
And so Cain killed Abel.
So that's the origin of the sacrifice in the temple.
It goes all the way back to Cain and Abel.
And, you know, the survivor is the one that was an absolute murderer.
It's ridiculous.
And then you got King David.
This is in Samuel 2, chapters 11 through 12.
King David had an affair with the wife of one of his soldiers, a guy named Uriah, R-U-R-I-A-H, and ended up sending Uriah into battle where he knew he would be killed so that he could marry Bathsheba, who was Uriah's wife.
And Bathsheima ended up being the mother of Solomon.
So when you start sorting in through the Old Testament in particular, it's the most sordid bunch of bullshit imaginable.
I was an acolyte for five years in junior high and high in first part of high school, and I just absolutely detested almost every story that came out of the Old Testament.
But Jesus, when they were reading him, like you say, it's common sense and it's nothing that's that profound.
But bottom line is, it's a big break from the Old Testament because the Old Testament is absolutely repulsive.
And from what we know of the Torah, it's repulsive.
And what we have been hidden from us on the Talmud is absolutely demonic.
I had a recent exchange rather extended three parts with Alexis Jonas, who's a senior editor at Veterans Today.
He's a philosopher like ourselves, David.
And he's prodigious.
I mean, he just puts out more stuff.
I'm just kind of overwhelmed.
But he had this, he wanted to, he's apparently an anti-abortion devotee.
I mean, he is dedicated.
And he wanted to have a debate in relation to evolution and ethics and abortion.
And I was game for it.
I didn't know how strongly his views were about anti-abortion.
But it wound up being published under the title from Darwin to Deontology.
And we both embrace deontological principles as a foundation of morality.
And of course, I made the argument that it's a question of personhood.
I argue that Roe v. Wade was properly decided, and that it implied that it was at the end of the second trimester that personhood occurred, and that prior to personhood, you're not aborting or killing a person, though, of course, it's a stage in the development of a human being, but it therefore cannot be murder, given murder defined as the illegal killing of a person.
Personhood has always seemed to me to be the key issue.
And then thereafter, personhood, other than to save the life or the health of the mother, we have this conflict.
Abortion is murder.
That all makes sense, I think.
In any case, during the argument, we wound up discussing religion to a fair degree.
And I made the point that merging the Old Testament with the new was a catastrophe because these are antithetical conceptions of God, morality, human nature.
And I think the consequences have been vast.
Your thoughts, David?
Yeah.
Right.
They're two radically different documents.
I mean, there's really no sense in which they should be glommed together as a single Bible.
That's a fundamental mistake.
I think you're right, Jim.
You know, I emphasized this yesterday.
The Old Testament is a purely Jewish document.
I mean, it's the Jewish Bible written by Jews, about Jews, for Jews, 100% Jewish, front to back, never intended for anybody else to read, never intended to apply to anybody else.
It's really just functionally a kind of a, I quoted Schopenhauer yesterday, it's like a war manual in the interaction of other people.
It's just, you know, how to defeat them, how to manipulate them, how to dominate other people.
And when charlatans like that, yeah, talk about Judeo-Christian values and that our values are your values and your values are our values.
It's just rubbish.
It's rubbish.
It's just propaganda.
It's just a big lie.
It's such a big lie.
It's one of the biggest lies of human history.
Well, exactly.
Right.
Because the Old Testament, those are pure Jewish, Jewish supremacist values.
So, I mean, inside and out, all the way through, right?
Whatever is expressed there.
So, but the New Testament is also a Jewish document.
It's also constructed by Jews, but it's for more malevolent purposes because they're trying to persuade the non-Jews to kind of come onto their side.
So, I mean, they're trying to suck them into, you know, the Jewish way of thinking.
And they want you to worship the Jewish God and this Jewish rabbi named Jesus and the Jewish Mother Mary and all these kind of things, right?
That's the aspects that come in new in this New Testament, which is again a completely different, it's contextually dependent.
It's written at the time following the Roman invasion of Palestine, you know, completely different time, orientation, purpose, meaning, completely different from the Old Testament.
And when they talk about the return of the Jewish God, the Masiak, they're not talking about Jesus Christ.
I mean, this is insane.
You know, who is this rabbi who was thought to be the Mashiach?
And he was saying, no, no, no, he can't be the Masiak because there are still Christians alive on earth.
That's how he knew he could be the Masiak because the Jews want to kill all the Christians.
I mean, it's just astounding that anyone could embrace Christian Zionism.
It is, you said, a form of insanity.
I'm afraid it's right there.
It's schizophrenic.
Yeah, I know.
It's in this like these people in a grip of a cult.
I mean, you can't reason with them.
You can't really, you know, they don't listen to reason.
They don't want to hear any argumentation.
They don't want to talk about the data, the archaeology, and nothing.
They're just like, it's like a cult, literally a cult.
And, you know, I mean, there were interesting quotes from the Roman times when they first encountered the Christians.
They called them a cult.
They used the Latin word for cult.
So, yeah, it was true back then.
It hasn't changed today.
It's just, it's just really a tremendous disaster all the way around.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yes, in my meandering through college, as I was resisting becoming an engineer, I took a course in philosophy.
I took courses, two courses in psychology, but I also took a course in philosophy.
And remember, one of the big arguments was St. Thomas Aquias trying to explain the dichotomy of how God could be omnipotent, all-powerful, all-knowing, and yet evil exists.
And then it was like all of the different permutations of how that could possibly happen.
And it ended up that the only one that had a positive way of explaining it was Marquise Desad.
He said, if God is omnipotent and evil exists, therefore God is evil and we can replicate God by being evil ourselves.
And if you've read any of his works, they're like tremendously evil.
But apparently the Marquise Desad programming has worked for the Zionist group and the Christian Zionists, because there's a group that I just absolutely cannot get at all.
The dispensationalists, and I've got several of them that are on my email mailing list, and they keep sending me this Prager University crap.
And I keep sending them Holocaust pictures.
And they keep saying, yeah, but those babies were going to grow up to be terrorists.
It's like, God, what Jesus are you listening to?
Just appalling.
Just appalling.
David, I'm so glad to have you back.
And Joe, to have you here and to have all these issues right now in the air.
We're going to be right back after this break with Joe Olson and David Scurbina.
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They've banned six of my books.
There you go.
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Let me just say, I've been very troubled by Donald Trump.
I mean, from the beginning when it came down the escalator, I was an enthusiastic supporter.
I voted for him three times.
I believed in his campaign promises, but instead of putting America first, it's obvious, obvious.
He's all in for Israel.
He's all in for Israel.
He just wants to turn America into an instrument, a resource for Israel, no matter what they want to do.
He supported the genocide.
He's given the bombs, the planes, the weapons of war they need to slaughter the Palestinians.
He participated in the bombing of Iran, which is the most peace-loving great nation the world has ever known, not having launched a war of aggression against any other state since 1775, prior to the ratification of the Constitution in the election of George Washington as our first president.
Iran has not launched a war of aggression against any other state.
Would that be said of the United States?
He's still supporting Ukraine, which appears to be a Jewish war.
Zelensky many times has said they want Ukraine to be the new Israel.
What ain't going to happen, but it's not for lack of trying because Russia is dominating.
But where do you come down on Trump, David?
I believe he actually converted, if he weren't already Jewish, born Jewish.
They converted in 2017.
He's received a mountain of awards that are only given historically to Jews by these Jewish organizations.
I don't see how there's any way to resist the conclusion he is a Jew.
Am I wrong?
Certainly an honorary one, if not a biological one.
That's a kind of an open question, as far as I can tell.
But you're absolutely right, Jim.
He does everything he can to serve Jewish interests, Jewish and Israeli interests.
That's foremost in his mind.
Nothing sways him from that.
Nothing takes a higher priority.
It's got to be somehow in favor of Jews or Israel or he's not going to take action.
So you wonder if either he's just, is it just a money thing?
Are they really backing him to the hilt?
They might have been decisive in getting him into his multi-millionaire or billionaire class, whatever he is.
Maybe he feels like he owes him for years of financial support.
Maybe it's because of the family connection.
Of course, his son-in-law and daughter are Jewish.
And the grandkids are, well, a couple of grandkids, I guess, are Jews.
So you just don't, you just don't know.
I'm convinced is most.
I mean, you know.
And she's so smashing.
I'm convinced paranomes were used in making her attracted to this guy.
Yeah, you got to wonder how that, how does that work?
Did you know Donald come here and give her an order like, hey, you're going to marry a Jew?
Just pick one?
I don't know how that works, you know?
I mean, she's really something else, and he is not.
Joe, your thoughts before I want to turn to the Zion, the Christian Zionist mega star, Mike Hockaby, who Trump made ambassador to Israel.
I mean, what?
That's a hell of a tell, if you ask me, sending this prominent lunatic to be the ambassador to Israel.
Joe, go ahead.
Your thoughts first.
Yeah, well, interestingly enough, in 2016, Trump was going to end all of the foreign wars.
And in 2017, in April, they staged a fake White Helmet UN gas attack in Syria.
And so he sent 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria, which are like a million dollars a pop.
The Russians managed to knock down every one of those missiles that was aimed at a Russian port or at Russian airfields, but some of them managed to make it through and hit other targets inside Syria.
So in 2018, UN White Helmet staged the same exact event, and he launched another 100 Tomahawk missiles.
And again, the Russians had successfully defeated the Tomahawks in both instances.
And so they know exactly how our weapon systems operate.
But interestingly enough, his Secretary of State and also his CIA director, Pompeo, said that the Russians have killed thousands of ISIS, parentheses, CIA, unparentheses, terrorists in Syria.
We've killed hundreds of Russians in Syria.
Like, I thought the object was to get rid of ISIS, but oh yeah, we're arming them with timber sycamore, weapons we stole from Qaddafi after we overthrew him with the Arab Spring, which was the Operation Zero footprint, which overthrew Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, and Libya.
So bottom line is, yeah, we've been fighting these continuous wars in the Middle East for 60 years on behest of the oil companies and on the behest of Israel.
And it's absolutely insane.
Now, when I go to this Huckabee thing, my Phil Gerwaldi, this is a wonderful author.
He really has a first-class mind.
So Israel, which have killed hundreds of Gaza and many of them children since the so-called ceasefire was declared on October 11th, has now stated it is currently intending to maintain its yellow-line occupation of more than half of the Gaza Strip.
That'll likely eventually make most of Gaza de facto part of Israel.
And the Palestinians, who once upon a time lived there, are shit out of luck, as the old saying goes.
And as for those benighted creatures who actually believe the ceasefire means one must stop shooting, it's time to ask the man behind the peace plan, which bears the name Trump, what's going on?
Does peace mean you disarm the Palatinians so they cannot defend themselves while giving Israel both freedom to occupy their land and use it as a shooting gallery for killing kids and looking for something to eat?
After all, stealing someone else's land is something that the Jewish state is very good at.
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I mean, this guy, Huckabee, get this.
He says, support Israel or be cursed.
Support Israel or be cursed.
I say, F you, Huckabee.
What a POS.
David.
Yeah, he must possibly be the stupidest diplomat we've ever had in the history of this country, or pretty close to it.
I don't know.
I mean, the Israelis just must be laughing at this guy that they can't take him seriously because he's just so confused.
And so, so, so screwed up.
But yeah, these people serve no real purpose.
They're just like a figurehead.
I think that's really all he's trying to do.
He's trying to put Huckabee in place as some kind of a nod to the Christian crew and, you know, just plugging somebody in and Huckabee's typical cult cult number and he just sucks up the whole story.
He doesn't, yeah, just willing to talk nonsense.
Trump did have a does have a lot of Christian Zionist supporters and they were static when Huckabee was appointed.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, well, when Huckabee was running for governor, he made a big deal about him and Bill Clinton were both born in Hope, Arkansas, but he was the real Hope of Arkansas.
I went, yeah, the other huckster from Hope.
Yeah, that's Huckabee.
Yeah, what a piece of work.
And his daughter is equally obsessed and ubiquitous.
That woman is absolutely insane.
And she's the current governor of Arkansas.
So Trump made her his press secretary.
Yeah, crazy.
Oh, yeah.
And another little interesting fact: Jared Kushner, who I call Mr. Ivanka, bought 666 Fifth Avenue in 2006 in New York City.
And then they had Joe, it was 668.
They had the number changed.
Well, it was 666 under his documents as under his documents.
Well, I'm telling you, it was 668, and they had the number changed to be 666.
Yeah, I wonder why.
Maybe he's the Antichrist.
Oh, but I'm telling you that they went out of their way to make it 666.
I know, yeah.
Well, that's the problem.
We're dealing with demonic forces.
And he was in 2016 when Trump got elected, he was upside down.
He owed $500 million.
That was his net worth, was minus $500 million.
And then when Trump left office in 2020, Jared had a net worth of $2 billion.
And how did he get that?
Oh, from sitting inside the Oval Office constantly without any security clearance and getting information from the CIA that he could sell to MBS so that MBS could round up the recalcitrant princes in Saudi Arabia and consolidate power.
And that's when they had that hundreds of Saudi princes going to a hotel for a big party and they ended up arresting them.
And who knows how many of them ended up getting hung and beheaded?
But bottom line is he helped solidify the crown royalty in Saudi Arabia and they ended up paying him handsomely.
So that's how he ended up getting his $2 billion net worth today.
And that's what he's planning to do with Gaza.
He's going to turn it into the, you know, the Jared's playground.
Absolutely malicious human beings.
David, your thoughts?
Yeah, generally agree, right?
I mean, yeah, you wonder what's going on with this whole cabal under Trump, right?
They're either Christian Zionists or they're Jews or they're tied into what these guys so deeply financially that they had they're corrupted by the financial interests.
So yeah, it's a sort of a hierarchy of corruption there.
And then they're all, yeah, they're all taking different tax to either profit from the situation or to make sure that Israel or their fellow Jews profit from the situation.
So that seems to be the priority, not, God forbid, any kind of welfare for the American people or the United States or global justice, let alone that.
So I do think that the genocide was, of course, causing a lot of concern about Israel and forcing a lot of nations to take another look at what hath God brought there.
But I think it was a Charlie Kirk shooting that really brought it to an apex because everyone thought it was Israel who killed him.
And you got Netanyahu going out repeatedly saying, no, no, we didn't kill him.
We didn't kill him, raising the further specter that, hey, maybe you did, right?
And while I believe the whole event was staged, my initial reaction was, of course, Israel had killed him because he was wandering off the Zionist reservation.
He said he'd been to the wall.
He didn't see any possible way it could have happened without Israeli complicity.
You go 10 feet, you got one kid with an AK-47, the other, another with a submachine gun.
It was ridiculous.
We had IDF members, former, reporting the day of the event that something was wrong, that it wasn't possible that this could have happened, been a surprise attack.
And then with Charlie Kirk, everything was so bizarre, so strange.
He confided to Candace, he confided to Tucker, he confided to Clayton.
He thought he was going to get whacked.
And he was explaining he could no longer carry water for Israel.
He could no longer be an Israeli firster.
So Net Yahoo offered him a choice between silver and lead.
Silver, he wanted to give him $150 million to get him climb back on the Zionist bandwagon.
And the alternative, of course, was to be shot.
So he actually stages shooting.
But so few people are ever going to appreciate that it was a staged event.
And in many ways, I don't care because the effect has been electrifying to ask what the hell is Israel's role in the world here.
You know, so I think the benefits from the Charlie Kirk event real stage have been humongous, getting people to open their mind about Israel, that they would go this far, which in my opinion, they most certainly would go that far.
How many others have they assassinated for people of lesser offense to them than Charlie Kirk?
David.
Yeah, very strange stuff going on with the Charlie Kirk situation.
It's not hard to see the Israeli connection.
Yeah, there's a lot of strings there that would implicate them.
I'm sort of just really curious about, I mean, they're just apparently just getting to the trial phase.
They got this guy, Tyler Robinson, right?
They're going to put him on trial.
What's he going to plea?
What's his case going to be?
What's his defense lawyers going to do?
Because in principle, a defense lawyer has got tons of great evidence out there to exonerate their man, right?
They've got everything that all of everybody here that we've been talking to has talked about the impossibility of the bullet and the gun, the way the gun was disassembled and the bullet would have gone through the backside.
I mean, there's tons of evidence that the defense lawyers should be able to use to exonerate their man.
I'm guessing either nothing's going to happen or they're going to be complete sellouts.
I don't know what.
It'll be interesting to see.
Let me offer a parallel.
Zoker Saranov, Boston bomber, purportedly.
Judy Clark, who gets involved in a lot of these cases as a defense attorney, formally bled him not guilty.
But in her opening statement, in the second paragraph, she said they did it.
But they didn't do it.
I was a party in an amicus brief submitting conclusive proof they hadn't done it because they had put him into the scenery wearing backpacks that did not correspond to the backpacks that exploded.
So it was one of these, you know, if the glut doesn't fit, you must equip.
They orchestrated that one by having OJ put on a latex glove before he put on the leather glove, which was already skin tight, so it wouldn't fit.
They deliberately contrived that.
But here you got, they're wearing big, baggy, different color backpacks, silver, kind of dark, not the compact black backpacks with a white square that were put there by Kraft International.
We know who the hell did it.
So I was one of three parties in an amicus brief to the Massachusetts Supreme Court that completely exonerates Zoker from having done this.
And they just ignored it.
They just ignored it.
They just ignored it.
So here you do the effing highest court in Massachusetts ignoring bona fide, straightforward exculpatory, absolutely 100% vindicating Zoker, and they just ignore it.
It's going to be like that.
They're going to have a similar attorney.
He's just going to blow it.
He's not going to bring up any of the evidence.
He's going to let him be convicted, even though he had absolutely nothing to do with it.
He's just one more patsy.
Joe, your thoughts.
Get unmuted here.
Yeah.
Going to divorce court one day in 1992.
I met Pete Bruton, who's the author of the book, The Mafia, the CIA, and George Bush, on the $600 billion SNL bank heist that was arranged by the Bush family and other famous politicians, none of which ended up going to jail.
So that was kind of interesting because I'd worked on 50 of those projects and I knew a dozen of the people in bibliography that were involved in the project.
So bottom line, that was pretty interesting.
And then in 2016, they had an event in Austin commemorating, I don't want to say anniversary, but commemorating 9-11.
And this was on September 11th, 2016.
And one of the speakers was Solving 911, Christopher Boley, another great book, another great author, another great researcher.
And every bit of the financial ties involving 9-11 had Jewish connections.
It was the judges, the lawyers, the bankers, the insurers, the investigators, the dancing Israelis.
There's an unbelievable amount of evidence that 9-11 was an absolutely 100% false flag by the same people that have a worldwide production company.
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
Of course, absolutely.
You make so many interesting, original points about Christianity, David.
You're really one of a kind.
I was just astonished to discover your work here.
And it was inadvertently from a guy who listens to the show, My Show on RBN, who wanted me to feature you and two songs: one Drop Kick Me Jesus, and another that I hadn't realized he himself had recorded.
So he's a musician.
I mean, I remember the first time I heard this song, Drop Kick Me Jesus.
I just was so hilarious.
So hilarious.
I love this song.
So I looked, you know, not realizing he had meant specifically to have his rendition.
I just found what I thought was a good rendition and threw it in there.
Then he had this other song again.
I found what I thought was a good rendition.
See, he was doing this.
He was going to make a contribution to keep RBN on the air.
So I figured, well, what the hell?
Then I discover you through him.
And I'm just overjoyed.
I mean, this is just intellectually so emancipating to have someone so original and taking on these issues about theology and Christianity and Judaism, David.
I'm just a huge fan and I'm just really, really glad we're connected.
I'm just really glad.
And I thought you did a super job in your presentation during the conference.
I mean, it was a praisey of the Jesus hoax.
But look how all the pieces fall into place.
Yeah.
Well, I appreciate it, Jim.
Yeah, it's always nice to have some people out there who are willing to, you know, pursue the truth.
And it takes a lot of courage.
I mean, you have it.
I guess maybe I do.
There's not a lot of people out there who really, really can think clearly through these things and willing to really lay it out there in kind of black and white terms.
So I guess, you know, maybe that's a virtue for all of us right here.
I don't know.
Well, it's wonderful because your approach is so completely original.
How did you get into this?
What first gave you the clue that there was something totally fraudulent about this whole Christianity-Judaism thing?
It came from Nietzsche.
I mean, I can't claim all the originality.
I mean, a lot of the pieces were there in Nietzsche.
And you got to stitch them all together because Nietzsche doesn't really help you out very much.
He's not very systematic, right?
So it's very discursive.
And, you know, it reads like literature, not like philosophy.
It's not a treatise.
One weekend, I was an undergraduate Wednesday, when it was my senior year.
I went on a Nietzsche bench.
I just read everything I could find Nietzsche had ever written.
It was just astonishing.
But yet I think you have made that.
You know, to me, it was just kind of a fascinating aside because I was involved in the philosophy of science and analytic philosophy, philosophy of language, theory of knowledge.
That's my daily work.
But now I become interested in moral theory.
And of course, Nietzsche is just such a fascinating figure in the history of philosophy and so distinctive in his niche.
And I loved how you pulled out like Schopenhauer, for example, offering that critique.
I thought that was wonderful.
And I think it's great that you put this together.
Did you study Nietzsche as an undergraduate then?
Where did you do under your undergraduate?
No, I was no, my early work was in mathematics.
So I did very little of this other stuff.
It was all, that was all kind of on my spare time.
But we're not talking about the philosophy of mathematics.
We're talking about mathematics.
Yeah, no, straight up math.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So it wasn't until I was doing the PhD research and then into my early teaching career that I really had to dig deeper into these guys and really pull out stuff that I, yeah, I was frankly, I was shocked.
I mean, it's surprising how much they don't tell you, how much is there that's unknown or just swept under the rug because it's not really very convenient for the people in power.
So I was really fascinated to reconstruct some of these stories and grab some of these ideas of these of these great minds, you know, who lived 100, 200 years ago.
And they really had tremendous insights.
And we're just kind of pull from them and stitch them together and learn from those guys as much as we can.
Joe.
Yeah, my conspiracy conference, this topic was on the warp speed capture of the United States and particularly Texas.
This is me at a rally in Dee Lee Plaza.
Remember the Alla Mode Review.
Great presentation.
This is published at Principia Scientific along with 10 other articles about the medical malpractice that happened between 2020 and 2025.
I attended 50 medical freedom rallies all across Texas, and I have a really good understanding of how completely criminal the allopathic medicine system is.
And then I got pneumonia this summer, ended up in the hospital for six days, was treated with antibiotics for a parasite that was untouched by antibiotics.
So they didn't treat the primary cause, they treated the secondary cause.
And I ended up having to get out of the hospital and treat myself.
And now they've made anti-parasitic drug ivermectin available over-the-counter in Texas effective December 4th.
And you can't buy it as a single retailer because Walmart, Walgreens, CBS, and HEB refused to allow it to be sold in accordance with the state law.
Absolutely criminal behavior on the part of the pharmaceutical industry and the pharmaceutical market.
What's going on there, Joe?
What the hell is this?
Oh, it's insane.
When Texas has made it legal to sell it over the counter, they won't sell it over the counter.
They passed a law to make it legal in 2023.
Because of Reconstruction and the carpetbaggers that ripped Texas off for over 10 years, we had to write a new constitution and they said we're never going to have a permanent government five months every two years, and all I got to do is pass a budget.
That's the only thing the legislature can do.
So everything else is by amendment and it's like ridiculous gerrymandering legal process.
It was passed by the House and Senate in 2023.
The governor refused to sign it.
It was on the calendar to be produced this 2025.
They managed to keep it pigeonholed so it couldn't get passed.
It passed in special session.
He signed it.
It's effective 90 days later.
So as of December 4th, you should be able to go into any pharmacy in Texas, just like in seven other states, and buy ivermectin.
And I ended up having to get a prescription to get antiparasitics to kill a disease that the CDC now admits is endemic in 32 states and they won't test for it.
It's the Chagas disease.
And that's what my focus was on.
And we'll talk more about that.
Abbott must be on Big Pharma's payroll.
Oh, and they're worried that if ivermectin is sold over the counter, the problems with parasites and these diseases is going to drop dramatically in Texas.
And the whole country is going to realize they've been scammed by big pharma.
So they're putting the pressure on.
You guys were terrific.
He's been a World Economic Forum participant for decades.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you, David.
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