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Nov. 4, 2025 - Jim Fetzer
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Truth vs. NEW$, Inc Part 2 (3 Nov 2025) with Don Grahn, Brian Davidson and Joachim Hagopian
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Come back, folks, the truth versus news incorporated.
All that news out there on that 3rd of November 2025, right before election day, and all the kinds of events that were happening that are very serious and we're heading towards war and all the things.
Wow, what do you got for us now?
Oh, Don.
Lots.
Yep, much appreciated.
What we got going on here.
We already know why everybody hates Israel.
It's not going to go away.
Meanwhile, Jewish rabbi crowned their messiat.
Guess who they crown?
You got to be surprised by my people, the Israelis at MIT with HIV in it, right?
No, that's exactly what it is.
This is a Jew by the Israelis.
Getting rid of all you Americans.
You're all part of the land of Adam.
They consider Donald Trump their mashiach.
I don't know if you know this.
Do you know that they gave Donald Trump the silver crown of the Torah recently, which is to be put on the head of the Messiah?
Who was it?
163 Orthodox rabbis.
Oh, wow.
Came together at Trump's golf course and handed our new Messiah, the diaper-wearing Donald Trump.
Our messiac.
That's embarrassing.
Here's another article about it.
A group of 150 Orthodox Jews present Trump with a Torah crown.
New Jersey.
President Trump holds to about 150 Orthodox Jewish leaders at his bedminster golf course Monday.
The gathering comes.
It's primary season eats up with Trump and DeSantis bind with the board of Trump Jews, especially amid growing tension between the Israeli government and the Biden admin.
Well, what's a date on this?
This is this is from July 2023, but it's happened more recently too.
So it's happened more than once.
Unbelievable.
Happened more than once.
Meanwhile, there's a whole history of the Shabbat Moshiak flag.
I'm working up a presentation of flags in history.
How about the Mushad Moshiak?
There are places where there are more Israeli flags than there are American voices, if you can believe that.
Meanwhile, new mental illness threat identified.
Ballroom Derangement Syndrome.
Tucker has raided the point a few times in speeches in recent years.
Why do all our post-World War II buildings in America look like hot garbage?
Mentally healthy people agree with that sentiment.
President Donald Trump agrees, converting the ugly east wing of the White House into a fancy ballroom for big events.
Democrats are suddenly beyond abroad.
They've gotten completely bonkers over the idea Americans should start constructing pretty buildings once again.
Failed 2020.
President Eric Swaldwell, a very bad guy, is demanding a loyalty pledge from all Democrats who plan to run in 2028.
They must promise to demolish the Trump ballroom if they plan to secure the nomination.
What a bizarre hill to die on.
The shrieking harpies on ABC, the view claimed the ballroom is absolute proof that Donald Trump is a dictator and plans to never leave office.
Why else would he build a fancy ballroom unless he intends to use it?
Duh.
Dude, it's just the East Wing.
Democrats act as if Trump is destroying some vital piece of American history.
The East Wing was slapped together in the 1940s to conceal a bomb shelter.
It's ugly and outdated.
Not as ugly as Barack Obama's library in Chicago, which looks like a North Korean guard tower and a baby with an air fryer designed by Lego engineers.
The East Wing is still pretty ugly, though.
The USA is coming up on its 250th anniversary.
Kind of ridiculous when you realize that after all this time of being an amazing country, we don't have a formal building where state dinners and formal events can take place in the nation's capital.
Every time there's a state in her, they have to spend millions to set up tents on the White House lawn.
They drag in chairs, tables.
If it's chilly outside, they set up space heaters.
It's like a cheap trick concert at the country fair.
Everyone has to crab and a porta party.
Seriously, Bush League.
We couldn't afford a better venue.
So we hope that King Charles and the other dignitaries enjoy the reception here at the Golden Corral.
Another important factor in constructing the fancy Trump ballroom of magnificence is that it'll be much more drone-proof and tents and porta potties on the lawn in the dawny age of drone warfare.
It's a massive security risk.
You know, the president port heads of state sitting out in the open in a tent.
That's one thing we've learned from the war in Ukraine.
Joaquin, this is kind of crazy.
I didn't know about Trump having been designated a messier in the past and now again.
Tell us your thoughts.
Well, he's obviously proven he's a loyalist to Israel and Zionism over and over and over again.
So from their point of view, yeah, he deserves all the accolades, Messiah, Meshiak, everything.
You know, he's the man for them.
You know, he's obviously loyal to Israel and not loyal to the United States.
That's what everybody is learning.
He is not loyal to America, nor is the government.
Look, they're all bribed.
They're all blackmailed.
You know, that's why they're not releasing the Epstein files for many months, all year now.
No Epstein files.
He promised it.
That was another campaign promise.
Broken.
So, yeah, Trump is their man because, you know, he is a Shabbat Jew.
His daughter is a Shabbat Jew.
His son-in-law is a Shaba Jew.
And if you look into Shabbat Lubovich, boy, they are the hardcore.
You know, Henry, our friend Henry McCow calls them Satanists, basically.
And I tend to go along with old Henry.
I think he's on the right track with that.
So, so, yeah, I mean, we're headed in the wrong direction because we have a guy in the office that is not for Americans.
He is for Israel.
And we're going to go down with Israel.
That's where we're headed.
Hey, don't the Satanists and bedophiles deserve representation too?
Yeah, there's some states that maintain that.
I think I just saw a clip in Alaska where the state government was actually, you know, basically quoting from the Satanist Bible, basically.
It's pretty incredible.
It is unbelievable.
Meanwhile, the day that the EBT cards run out, the racial breakdown of SNAP EBT food stamp by race, we're on the verge.
Maybe it's going to be averted.
We got a couple judges saying they got to go ahead and pay for it.
They've got the money.
It's in a contingency fund.
Nope, it's something I thought was coming out for some time now.
The day the EBT cards ran out.
41 million plus Americans currently on the rolls of SNAP EBT, the gracious food stamp program, recharging a government-issued debit card monthly so your fellow citizens can stroll into Walmart,
Kroger, shop on Amazon, bypass the member-only line at Costco, venture into a Sam's club to purchase items of their choice, all at taxpayer expense.
Come November 1st, just passed, the federal government shut down, could, oh, please let it happen, see the ever-expanding SNAP EBT program come to a halt with a pause in funds.
Well, let's cut to the heart of the problem.
The rising tide of color in America that started word about a century ago is here and they are hungry.
And you, dearest taxpayer, are fitting the bill.
And just what does that mean in clear racial terms?
Let's go as the kids say.
One in five children age zero to 17 receive SNAP benefits of non-Hispanic black children.
45% receive SNAP compared to 28 of Hispanic of any race, 12% of non-Hispanic white children, 6% of non-Hispanic Asian, and 21% of non-Hispanic, some other race children.
Interesting.
More data, please cut SNAPs will disproportionately harm families of color.
More than 22 million households participate in SNAP by the end of last year.
In between 2019 and 23, more than one in 10, 11.8% households participated in the program.
Well, many of the families, 43.1%, are non-Hispanic.
White, families of color are more likely to rely on SNAP to supplement their food budget.
More than one in five black, American Indian, and Alaska Native, or Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander households relied on SNAP to meet their nutritional needs in the 2019-23 period.
These families, along with Hispanic households, are more than twice as likely to participate in SNAP as their non-Hispanic white peers.
So judges order the admin to use contingency funds to keep SNAP going.
Boston, two federal judges ruled nearly simultaneously Friday, a President Trump admin must continue to pay for the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, the nation's largest food aid program, using emergency reserve funds.
during the government shutdown.
The judges in Mass and Rhode Island gave the admin leeway whether to fund the program partially or in full in November.
That also brings uncertainty about how things will fold and will delay payments for many beneficiaries whose cards would normally be recharged early in the month.
I'll bet there's an underground of recharging those cards.
Meanwhile, Trump finally weighs in.
Too little, too late.
Friday, Trump finally stopped praising himself for his recent business deals in Asia and said he doesn't want Americans to go hungry.
He's instructed his lawyers to work with the two judges who have ruled that the federal government has to release food stamp money.
Well, those judges' decisions weren't full and final, as I detailed previously.
So we'll see what Trump's lawyers work out with the judges and how long it takes.
Meanwhile, Bissett says U.S. food aid benefits could resume by Wednesday.
President Trump wants to hear from the courts how to fund SNAP.
Food and benefits for needy American payments could blow by Wednesday, as ordered by a U.S. judge.
Treasury Secretary Bassett said Sunday, asked if that could be done to meet a federal judge's order, partial payments begin Wednesday.
Bassett said could be.
Bassett also said on CNN's State of the Union that the Trump admin will not, will not appeal the court ruling.
Joaquin, your thoughts.
Well, like everything that comes out as news today, it's all been pre-planned with this whole shutdown of the financing of our own government.
It's a humiliation, actually, to the entire world who sees America as basically unable to even operate as a nation.
You know, and of course, we have the Republicans blaming the Democrats and the Democrats blaming the Republicans.
You know, it's all, you know, just more of the same, the violin rule, the violin rule.
But the big picture is, yeah, there's a lot of Americans who don't have enough money to pay for the rent, a roof over their head, they cannot feed their families, the inflation,
the food prices, the shortage of food, you know, either through weather warfare ruining crops or supply chain shutdowns causing it or Trump making the deal with Argentina getting all their beef and letting the American beef farmers go basically down.
The farmers in America are hurting, just like the population at large is hurting.
We are headed for a Great Depression.
That is, it's going to be worse than the so-called 1930s depression.
That's where we're headed very rapidly because the rulers of the earth are not only amassing World War III in all these different places in the world, but they're also getting ready to have the collapse of the global economy.
So, we're up against that at the same time that the crisis of World War emerges all over the world.
So, we got everything against us right now.
And it's been set up where the decent people of the world know right from wrong, and they know that Israel and Trump are evil because they're killing a whole group of ethnic Palestinians.
And for those of us who've been paying attention, they've married the fascist government with the technocracy that's also tracking every single American with their data processing palanteer to make sure that anybody who opposes the genocide also is violating the anti-Semitism hate law and therefore is subject to being criminalized in a Roundup and
put in prison.
That is where everything is headed right now as I speak.
And so, we have never seen anything like this in all of our lives.
It's never happened before.
And yes, this World War III is going to be even bloodier than the last one, which is the worst in human history.
So, you know, unless the people of this world get together and mobilize to oppose what's going on, we're all cooked.
I'm sorry.
I'm afraid you got it right.
Very bad.
Meanwhile, organized jewelry trying to run counterattack over Mega.
This is from Russ Winter.
Tucker is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America, says Randy Fine.
Randy is in Congress entirely thanks to AIPAC.
He takes his marching orders from a foreign nation.
This is a foreign influence operation being run on American soil by a sitting Congressman.
Dr. Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America.
He has chosen to take on the mantle of leader of a modern-day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel, to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Friends, make no mistake.
Tucker is not MAGA.
That's silly.
That's pathetic.
Nobody's impressed by that.
The guy's making himself look like an idiot.
Meanwhile, here's a DC Dave song.
Abuse.
Here it comes.
What's the chance?
What's the chance?
We'll get our country back.
It will take a lot of courage.
Yes, the courage we lack.
The values we prized are now almost gone as we live in a country they own.
It's a country they own.
The scientists, I swear, and they're hardly inclined.
All their power to share.
And to no one's surprise, they rule us with lies as we live in a country they own.
They call it a kinla, divided loyalty.
Oh no, it's not divided.
That's not how it seems to me.
They bow down to Israel and to Israel alone.
While it's the USA that they own, it's a country they own.
The Zionists, I swear, and they're hardly inclined.
All their power to share.
And to no one's surprise, they rule us with lies.
As we live in a country they own it's a country they own.
The Zionists, I swear, and they're hardly inclined.
All their power to share.
And to no one's surprise, they rule us with lies as we live in a country they own.
And to no one's surprise, they rule us with lies as we live in a country they own.
That's really hundred.
Meanwhile, IDF students at Harvard are supposed to have further.
There are all these Israelis who are coming over to Harvard after serving in Gaza.
Right?
And you are commanded now by Harvard in the name of what they call inclusiveness and pluralism.
You have to pal around with them.
And if you don't pal around with them, you're an anti-Semite.
That's literally, I am not exaggerating a jot.
If you don't, if you don't want to be friends with murderers, exactly.
You're an anti-Semite.
If you don't want to be friends, if that's the new definition.
If you don't want to hang around.
Maybe I've been anti-Semite my whole life.
If you don't want to hang around with child killers, you're an anti-Semite.
If you don't like Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, if you don't like Jeffrey Epstein, you're an anti-Semite.
If you don't abuse children, also, I get what we're doing off definition.
Okay.
So it's essentially a command coming from the top down that we have to normalize child killers.
We have to say, okay, Candace is when she applied to Harvard, she had worked in a food kitchen, and she put that in her personal statement.
And Joe here, he helped build a sanitation system in the Congo.
And then there is Yaakov.
Yakov killed children in Gaza.
No, really.
And we're supposed to treat all three as the same in the name of inclusiveness and pluralism.
No.
Bingo stuff is so good.
Meanwhile, we got the Israeli flag flying in Long Branch, New Jersey.
Look at this.
What fucking country are we in?
What fucking country are we in?
I mean, that's where, this is where Bruce Springsteen is from.
This is his hometown.
And they got more Israeli flags than they have American.
Markem, your thoughts.
Yeah, wow.
It's never been in our face like it is now.
You know, I mean, the people don't see this.
that Trump and the entire Zionist-occupied government is completely owned and controlled by Israel and its City of London founders of Israel, the Rothschild and other banking dynasty families that use money to bribe and basically Mossad and CIA,
MI6 to coordinate the Jeffrey Epstein-Maxwell kind of operations to blackmail all the politicians, certainly in America and a lot of Western European nations.
They have complete control over the entire world, it seems.
They're moving us towards World War III, West versus East.
That's what they do.
They divide and conquer through pitting groups against each other.
Well, like I say, I've said it probably 10 times now.
We have never seen more evidence of this reality than ever before.
And that Randy Fine, how did that guy get into Congress?
It's pretty unbelievable.
But he's like talking, he's not MAGA, Carlson, and this guy is the MIGA midget.
He's a mega midget, basically saying what everybody is appalled with, that Israel owns all of America except the people.
The people, we are the only ones they don't own.
Therefore, it is up to the people to unite against the evil force oppressing us.
Randy Fine is a perfect example of the Marine Corps expression of 20 pounds of shit in a 10 pound sack.
Unbelievable.
They should make him the fourth stooge.
Remember Larry Fine in the three stooges?
Well, Larry, he's got his glance on now.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, LA firefighter text messages reveal a scandal about the Palisades fire.
Gaza's population is on the brink of famine.
So days before the Palisades Inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burnside.
What?
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Do you remember when they said that they caught the guy who started the fire in Los Angeles?
The LA fire is a Florida man accused of intentionally starting fire that destroyed Pacific Palisades.
Now, that always seemed sketchy to me because the guy who they said started the fire called 911.
He was the guy who called 911, and he called them three times before the fire had even started blazing.
So he called, why would you start a fire and then immediately call 911 three times?
Knowing that you're going to be the guy they're going to go to.
So anyway, so it was always sketchy to me.
And he had Googled, can you be put in prison for starting a fire with a cigarette butt?
Because apparently, I guess he put his cigarette butt out or something, whatever.
So it always seems sketchy.
Here it is.
That's the guy.
That's the guy.
They caught him in Florida.
But now it turns out, we got text messages.
LA firefighters were told to abandon a smoldering blaze that started on January 1st.
You want to hear it?
Here.
Report says firefighters were ordered to leave the smoldering burn site that eventually became the deadly Palisades wildfire.
The L.A. Times obtained text messages from three firefighters at the scene of the Lachman fire.
That fire started, of course, New Year's Day and then smoldered until January 7th, when historic winds reignited it into the Palisades fire.
Federal prosecutors say that fire was intentionally set by Jonathan Rinderneck.
On January 2nd, a battalion chief ordered firefighters at the scene to pull out of the area because the fire was contained.
One firefighter said the chief had been told it was a bad idea to leave because the fire was still smoldering and could be rekindled.
The LAFD has declined to comment on the text messages.
Oh, they're not commenting on them.
Isn't that interesting?
So it sounds like they got another Patsy.
They got another Patsy to blame the fire on because I'm betting they knew all along that they let that fire smolder without extinguishing it 100%.
And that led to the deadliest fire and most destructive fire that I think in the history of Los Angeles.
Am I wrong about that?
And let's not forget that the reservoir hadn't been repaired and filled with water for two years.
So they had 113 million gallon reservoir right above.
That's the Pacific Palisades that all burned down.
They had 113 gallon reservoir of water.
They didn't fill it.
They drained it.
They were going to repair it.
They never repaired it for two years.
And we've never heard a statement from the person who's in charge of the water.
She makes $750,000 a year.
And we've never heard a word from her.
So this, and it says, according to media and politics, that this reservoir was specifically built for this type of fire in the Pacific Palisades.
It's incompetent government at its best.
And the mayor is still in office.
They did that on purpose.
So they're trying to blame it on Patsy.
But guess what?
So the LA Times, they break it down for us.
So days before the Palisades Inferno, firefighters were ordered to leave smoldering burn site.
What?
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Firefighters mopping up a small brush fire that authorities say reignited as the Palisades fire five days later were ordered to leave the original burn scene, even though they complained the ground was still smoldering and rocks remained hot to the touch, according to firefighters' text messages that were reviewed by the LA Times.
To the firefighters' surprise, their battalion chief ordered them to roll up their hoses and pull out of the area on January 2nd, to their surprise.
Boy, is this going to be grist for the conspiracy mill?
So it's very much this sounds like the Israeli soldiers being given a standdown order on October 7th.
The day after the eight-acre blaze was declared contained.
So they told them to pull up their hoses on January 2nd, the day after the eight-acre blaze was declared contained.
Rather than stay and make sure there were no hidden embers that could spark a new fire, the text messages said they were told to get out of there instead of sticking around.
On the morning of January 7th, according to federal authorities, strong winds stoked the remnants of the New Year's Day blaze into the firestorm that killed 12 people and destroyed thousands of homes.
In one text message, a firefighter who was at the scene on January 2nd wrote that the battalion chief had been told it was a bad idea to leave the burn scar unprotected because of the visible signs of smoldering terrain.
And the rest is history, the firefighter wrote in recent weeks.
Carl Jung, the great psychoanalyst, he said, modern people don't see God because they don't look low enough.
Meanwhile, we had Elon Musk claiming AI will soon replace all jobs with work becoming optional.
Think about it.
Work becoming optional.
In responding to a New York Times report claiming Amazon is looking to replace 600,000 jobs with robots and AI.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk said AI and robots will replace all jobs.
Musk was responding to an ex-user who commented on the Times article saying it's insane to think that a human will pack and ship boxes in 10 years.
It's game over, folks.
The CEO's response did not end with AI replacing your jobs, though.
Musk claims working will be optional, like growing your own vegetables, instead of buying them from the store.
American Bazaar Online reported on the response to the New York Times article, which highlighted documents and interviews suggesting that the company is working to automate 75% of its operations, all while encouraging employees to avoid words like automation and AI.
Amazon refuted the report.
That's false.
They rebutted the report.
To refute it is to show it's false, but it's actually true.
They rebutted, but they could not refute what is true, saying it is not representative of their overall hiring policies, when I have no doubt they are.
Musk's response is unsurprising.
As in the past, he's made statements claiming that AI will raise the standard of living, telling Ted Cruz in an interview, goods and services will become close to free.
It's not as though people will be wanting in terms of goods and services.
You have tens of billions of robots that'll make anything or provide any service you want for basically next to nothing.
Yeah, I can't wait.
Meanwhile, the great AI buildout shows no signs of slowing.
I have no doubt that is the case.
A momentous week on the technology sector made it clear there's no sign of the boom in building AI infrastructure.
It's not slowing, despite the bubble talk.
NVIDIA, whose processors are the revolution backbone, became the first company to surpass $5 trillion in market value.
Microsoft and OpenAI a deal enhancing the chat GPT makers' fundraising ability.
And OpenAI probably started laying groundwork for an initial public offering that could value the company at a trillion.
Amazon said it would correct,000 corporate jobs just days before its cloud unit posted the strongest growth in nearly three years.
These developments, along with numerous earning call and interviews with execs, make clear that AI has cemented itself as a single biggest catalyst for global corporate investment and the engine of the market rally, even as some question the sustainability of both.
And last but not least, Joaquin Agopian, globalist race for digital ID control grid imprisonment.
Serious stuff.
Leave it to the British government at the cutting-edge fascist techno totalitarian enforcer to expand its own Draconian Online Safety Act, adding two new official offenses imposed on all online social media platforms and messaging services.
These two highest priority legal stipulations are encouraging or assisting serious self-harm, defined in section 184 of OSA and cyber flashing, derived from section 66A and 66B of the UK Sexual Offenses Act of 2003.
The latest legal hoop, all these digital mediums must compliantly jump through is to automatically block or filter all online posts that algorithms red flag even prior to granting public access.
This newly enforced law is designed to prevent individuals from encountering priority illegal content and mitigate and manage the risk of the service being used for the commission or facilitation of priority offenses.
Additionally, online services must immediately take down any content deemed potentially illegal or offensive to any reporting users.
That could be anything whatsoever.
The Constitution, for example, the Declaration of Independence, the Bible, the harsh penalty for non-compliance that fines of up to 10% of a company's global revenue of 18 million pounds, 23 mil, whichever is greater, and potential service blocking by internet providers.
To avoid such atrociously stiff punishment, internet companies are being forced to err on the side of caution, engaging in way more censorship rather than facing fines that could result in bankruptcy.
This is prior restraint, Joaquin.
This is saying anything that the government or the company finds offensive can land you in jail, no matter how appropriate it might be.
I mean, this is the end of freedom of speech.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, one more blow for their movement of totalitarian government, you know, where you cannot express any dissident point of view.
They are going after all the social mediums now, the platforms that may put out stuff that is not within their agenda.
And we'll leave it to the United Kingdom to lead the charge for shutting down all free expression rights that the Western countries have somewhat taken for granted, you know, that we're allowed to speak a certain way.
We have our own, obviously, Bill of Rights and Constitution, all basically saying First Amendment is very important, free speech.
Well, they're going against it.
You know, there's too many people that are calling Israel and America out on its genocide against the Palestinians.
We can't have that, you know?
So, yeah, they're finding new ways to censor and remove the capacity of the alt news, basically, and free speechers to be able to say the truth.
They want, if they can shut down the truth, then they have basically the world in their hands, because then we are not able to even communicate the truth to each other.
So, yeah, it's just one more lethal blow in the direction of basically technocratic, totalitarian, one-world government neo-feudalism, the enslavement.
That's where we are fast-headed, along with the breakdown and collapse of the economy, along with the war.
It's all, you know, the same direction we're headed.
You know, they're coming at us, you know, with precision on one point to take down humanity's capacity to survive.
Absolutely stunning.
Well, that's a nice example, contradicting what they're planning.
Let's go back to Tucker talking with Nick Fuentes and listen to a little more.
I find this utterly fascinating, and it's certainly politically incorrect, but it's enormously engaging.
One spoonful of honey with cinnamon before bed equals zero memory collapse.
Universal secret the billionaire right there a couple months later.
And in Trump's inaugural, he says famously, a new vision will govern our land.
It's going to be only America first, America first.
And I said, that's me.
Like, that's what I believe.
I'm an American nationalist fully at this point, not even a conservative.
And there was one thing that happened just before that that really struck me as strange.
And I've told this story before.
I'm not going to spend too much time on it, but suffice to say, Barack Obama in the lame duck period.
So the Democrats lost the election.
He's on his way out.
There's a resolution in the Security Council condemning the settlements in the West Bank in Israel.
And typically, the U.S. delegation will veto those resolutions condemning Israel.
Well, Obama's on his way out.
He's got nothing to lose.
So the U.S. delegation abstains from the resolution and it passes.
And Fox News and all the pro-Israel conservatives are calling him an anti-Semite.
They're saying he hates Jews.
He's an anti-Semite.
He hates Israel.
And I saw that and it struck me as strange because it seemed hypocritical.
It seemed like how when conservatives would critique anything about race, we got called racist, or anything about feminism, we got called sexist.
All Obama did was uphold U.S. policy on the West Bank that we've had since 67, which is we don't support the settlements.
I said, How is it anti-Semitic to just be consistent on our U.S. foreign policy?
Like I said, which is a Republican-Democrat consensus.
And I got attacked for this.
I wrote a big article about this.
I tweeted about it.
I tweeted to Ben Shapiro.
I said, you know, I've never seen anything on the Daily Wire that's actually critical of Israel.
And he quote tweets me.
And at this time, I have a thousand followers on Twitter.
How old are you?
I'm 18.
I'm a freshman.
You're still a freshman in college.
And this is even before I started my show.
And I don't know, I probably got 100 likes on this tweet.
It wasn't a viral tweet.
He quote tweets me and says, to accuse a Jew of dual loyalty is the surest sign of anti-Semitism.
And like, this is how it sort of begins.
And I see this tweet.
And by the way, that was on Christmas Eve in 2016.
He immediately called you an anti-Semite.
So I'm driving to Christmas Eve Mass with my family.
And I see on Twitter, the notification comes up.
Ben Shapiro quote tweets me calling me an anti-Semite.
And I was like, what is this?
Like, why is this guy attacking me?
You know, because I don't have a platform at this time.
I'm not an influential guy or anything.
And so then I put out another tweet similar.
I said something like, if you're China first, you should live in China.
If you're Mexico first, you should live in Mexico.
If you're Israel first, maybe you should go live in Israel.
And again, he quote tweets me and says, you're an anti-Semite.
That same night?
This was, I think, a couple weeks later.
Happened a little bit further down the line.
And so.
Are you surprised that he knew you were?
Yeah, I was.
I was surprised at why he cared.
Yeah.
Because I'm thinking, how does he even know who I am or what I'm about?
And it turned out that Cassie Dillon, she had texted him earlier and she wanted him to take me under his wing.
She texted him after that debate and said, you know, you really like this guy.
He's amazing.
He did this great debate.
She goes, but he's a little too pro-Trump.
He's a little too Trumpy.
And he goes, I'll take a look.
And so I guess the two of them were kind of like grooming me in a sense.
They wanted me to go maybe and be a Daily Wire or maybe looking me as a potential conservative activist or influencer.
And so they started paying attention to me.
And the more critical of Israel I was, I started to get this really intense pushback from the both of them and from a lot of the people at Daily Wire.
Why do you think?
So you're an 18-year-old college freshman, you're clearly talented and you're engaged, you're really interested, and you ask not, not crazy questions, like, what is this?
And rather than explain it, they just call you a racist, call you an anti-Semite.
Like that's the first response.
That seems like the least effective.
Well, it turned out to be not very effective in your case, but that seems like the least effective thing you could do.
Why do you think they did that?
Well, I think that you have to look at it not in retrospect because hindsight is 2020.
And so looking back, you could say they made a terrible mistake because look at sort of what they provoked or what they catalyzed.
But at that time, you got to consider, I'm 18 with no following, with no network.
I'm coming from the suburbs of Chicago.
My parents didn't go to college.
I have no connections.
And so for them, it was very easy that if they detected that a promising young guy was going to become anti-Israel in the conservative movement, they could crush that person easily and grind them under the heel.
So they sort of were alerted, oh, there's a precocious young guy that isn't on board with Israel.
We'll keep an eye on him.
And if he gets too vocal or popular, we'll cut him down.
We'll crush him.
Because at this time, as you know, in 2017, it's a very different time.
2016, 17, any criticism or dissent on this subject was a death sentence.
You became radioactive, unhireable, blacklisted.
And that's exactly what happened.
And basically from then on, it was just this escalating series of blacklisting, censorship, hit pieces, rumors to try to ostracize me from the movement.
Well, you're a college student?
Yes, as a freshman, yeah.
Most coffee companies sell weakness, watered down drinks from faceless corporations that don't care about you or your family.
Black Rifle, which not to brag is in this cup right here, is very different.
It's roasted and brewed in this country without apology by patriotic men and women.
The coffee is built by the Trump planted the seed.
And the seed was America first.
Yes.
So once you accept that, a lot of the way we're doing things becomes impossible to support or justify.
Right.
The contradiction becomes apparent.
It gets moved to the center and it becomes unignorable if you're consistent.
So what kind of efforts did they make to make you go away?
So this is a couple of months down the line.
You know, first they would try to dissuade me from asking questions because I was friends with a lot of the Daily Wire writers, not just Cassie Dillon, but many of them, many of them were Jewish.
And I would ask them point blank.
I would say, so why do we give Israel all this money?
$3.8 billion per year?
What is that for?
And they would say, well, you know, there's a really good answer for that, but you're asking it in the wrong way.
You're asking it in an anti-Semitic way.
I'd say, I'm just, I'm asking for the proof.
You know, what's the argument there?
And so first it was the sort of, hey, man, could you kind of tone it down?
Maybe just don't bring that up so much.
But I was persistent because at this time, I was genuinely inquisitive.
I wanted to know, is there an actual reason?
And I was actually expecting that there was a really good reason for all of it.
And the more that I read, the more that I dug into the subject, the more I found out there's a lot of these neocon Jewish types behind the Iraq war.
There's the foreign aid complex, which is really unique.
There's APAC, which is this intense foreign lobby where it's bipartisan.
It seems to be the only thing that the parties can agree on.
And so it just made me burn more with curiosity.
So I just kept asking them.
And eventually they said, you know what?
We're not going to talk to you anymore.
And these are my friends.
I met them, went to Christmas parties with them.
And all of them one day said, you're done.
We're blocking you.
We're never going to speak to you again.
We're never going to have you on our show.
And I said, wow, like this seems like inhuman.
I'm struck by how impersonal this is.
Like here, I thought we're friends.
We're all conservatives.
Maybe we disagree on one issue.
Now I'm being canceled by the right.
So I was shocked by this.
When was this?
This was February or March 2017.
So you're still a freshman in college?
Yes.
Are you even paying attention to college at this point?
No, not at all.
And my grade started to suffer because I was just really focused on this.
So that's pretty young to get canceled and pretty young to have friendships destroyed over politics.
Like that's usually, you know, like decades down the line.
Right.
What did you do?
Well, I just became more emboldened.
And so I took this story on my show.
At this time, I was on RSBN.
Inflation is destroying your savings, but gold and silver have protected wealth for thousands of years.
I had this show, which I named after the inaugural.
It's called America First.
And I would kind of subtly bring up the Israel topic and say, you know, this is something you're not allowed to talk about.
This seems like an apparent contradiction.
It's a big problem.
And they escalated their attacks.
Cassie Dillon would call my boss, who she was friends with, at RSBN every day for weeks, saying, you'll never believe what Nick said on his show tonight.
It's so racist.
It's so bad.
You got to take him off the air.
It's going to make you look bad.
And I would then get word from my boss, Joe Seals.
He was the founder at Rightside.
And he would call me up and say, I don't know what has gotten into Cassie.
I thought you guys were friends, but she is calling me every day hysterically, demanding that I fire you.
And I was like, wow, like, so it just keeps getting worse.
It starts with this, like, they're very weird about the subject.
Then they don't want to talk to me.
Then they're trying to get me fired.
And I'm thinking, okay, so clearly what I'm asking about, there's some truth there that they don't want.
Did any, I should have asked you this earlier.
Did anyone during the course of pre-cancelization say to you, here are the reasons?
You're not asking the question correctly, but there are reasons that our foreign aid to Israel is so high.
Like, and here's what they are.
They did, but in a very general and vague way.
As you know, it's never specific.
They would say things like, well, they're our partner in the Middle East.
They're a democracy in the Middle East.
Just as very vague, it's rhetorical.
And I read The Israel Lobby by Mear Sheimer and Stephen Walt, and they break it down very succinctly that there's no real strategic benefit.
Actually, there's strategic liability.
Eastern Mediterranean is not a strategically important region.
The intelligence that Israel provides is not useful.
Actually, it's detrimental because they frequently lie.
The technology we give them, they pass along to the Chinese, which is a big scandal.
So, so I would give them all this and say, Yeah, that's not adding up.
And they would say, Yeah, yeah, well, you know, you really just can't talk about that.
Your friend said that too.
Yes.
Wow.
Okay.
So, what happened to your job?
The right side broadcasting gig.
Eventually, I got fired.
I got kicked out.
Why?
Because one of these clips that Cassie Dillon had a problem with, she ran it up the flagpole.
She took it to Media Matters, actually, which is a left-wing outfit.
They're like a cancel mill.
Wait, the Daily Wire person took it to Media Matters?
Yes.
Are you sure?
I'm 99% sure.
What was the clip?
It was a clip, ironically, where I was talking about the travel ban, the so-called Muslim ban, and I was defending it.
And I said that the First Amendment does not protect foreign nationals.
It doesn't protect Salafists, you know, Wahhabists.
He's like, you know, I said, they're saying that there's a constitutional right for radical Muslims to come here.
And I said, that, how are they protected by the First Amendment?
They're foreign nationals.
And the authorial intent of the First Amendment was actually not even to protect that to begin with.
You know, it's kind of anti-Christendom radical ideology.
So it's something ironically that probably Shapiro and Cassie would agree with, but they recognize the currency that a clip like that would have with the left because the left could say, you're Islamophobic, you're racist.
So she brought that to the left saying, look at this guy.
It's not that he's anti-Israel, but he's anti-Muslim.
Yes.
That's very interesting.
Yes.
And so that clip appears on Media Matters, which at the time, I was the subject of a lot of attacks from them at the time.
And people kind of listened to them.
Yeah.
Including on the right, they listened to them.
Yes.
So what happened?
So I had to write an apology.
My boss called me up and said, you need to apologize for what you said.
For being anti-Muslim.
Yes.
And so I didn't write, I'm sorry, but I had to write something like, well, I should have chosen my words more carefully and this, that, and the other.
And ultimately, then they fired me a couple weeks later.
Yeah.
And what was the pretext for that?
Well, they wanted to get in the White House press office.
They wanted a press pass.
And they said, it's the stuff you're saying on the show isn't like a good look for right side.
They're not going to let us into the White House if you're with us.
But the pressure in this scenario came exclusively from the Daily Wire.
Yes.
Yes, because, and here's how I know why.
My show got maybe 100 live viewers every night.
Not a powerhouse show.
No.
So the Media Matters was not onto me.
They were put onto me by people in the right that wanted me canceled.
Yeah.
Well, that's interesting.
So then what do you do?
You're failing in school.
Your show just got canceled.
What's your plan now?
So I dropped out.
And I hated college and it was very expensive.
Even I had a substantial scholarship, but it was still expensive and I didn't like it.
So my plan was that I was going to go to a different college.
I might work for a year, make some money.
And eventually I got the show back about a month later.
They came back and by popular demand from my 100 viewers who were very dedicated, right side offered me the show back.
And so I took the show again over the summer.
And then I applied for a job at the Leadership Institute.
And that was kind of the next big saga.
But you didn't get that job.
No, I did not get the job.
Why?
Well, I was told because I knew people that worked there, that were field representatives there.
It was a field representative job.
And so I went out for a job training at the end of July 2017.
So after that second semester, and I applied for this field rep job, it was this two-week training.
And I go there and on the first day of the whole thing, they go around the room of all the prospective applicants.
It's like a big tryout, basically, for two weeks.
And they wanted to get everybody to break the ice and know each other.
So we did introductions.
They said, say your name, how old you are, and why you're a conservative.
And at this time, people are not where, let's say, we are right now.
They're not America first.
They're not anything like, they're not talking about great replacement.
That's not on the radar for them.
So you go around the room and you hear stuff about small government, free markets, you know, personal responsibility, that sort of thing.
And they get to me and I said, well, I'm a conservative because we're losing our civilization because of mass immigration.
America doesn't resemble America anymore.
France is no longer France.
I said, and if we don't conserve the demographics, forget about the rest.
That's what we need to conserve.
And I said that.
And I was told later on that at that moment, I was immediately disqualified by the people that were running the job training.
Unbelievable.
Immediately disqualified Joaquin.
I think this guy is totally brilliant.
He's so down to earth.
He's so incisive.
He's actually explained the issues that are making a difference.
He's very detailed.
He's very specific.
No wonder they hate him.
Too much truth.
Too convincing.
The guy knows his shit.
I'm impressed.
Your thoughts?
Well, I guess, you know, he represents the answer to the question.
If you want to know who controls you, look at who you cannot criticize.
He's the living example of that, really.
Yes, yes, yes.
So, yeah, anybody that speaks articulately with that kind of truth is obviously a threat, you know, a liability to the whole Zionist movement.
So, yeah, I'm sure that, you know, at one time he may have been in good standing with Donald Trump, but he cannot be, you know, and it reminds me of he's kind of going the same way as Charlie Kirk.
Unfortunately, you know, he may be perceived as such a great threat to Zionism and Israel that who knows, you know, maybe they will take him out with some kind of accident or illness or something.
You know, they got so many ways to kill people that they don't want around because they fear they have a reach to the people and they can't have it.
They can't tolerate the truth.
No wonder they were shitting bricks that Tucker gave him up for them.
No wonder.
They are scared shitless of this guy.
Don, wonderful.
What an unusual show for the lack of Brian.
Brian, we're doing what we can to bring what matters to our audience.
And thank you.
Yeah, I think we're one of the reasons that the people in power are mad at us.
We're established as a threat for the truth.
We've been more that way for 25 years, and I think we're still standing strong.
And we have had some slings and arrows at us and problems, but we're still here.
And we're going to stay here as long as people like you out there want to be watching and sharing.
Thank you.
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