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The Raw Deal (1 October 2025) "Fearsome Threesome" edition with Joachim Hagopian

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	Well, this is uh Jim Fetcher, your host on the Raw Deal, all right here on Revolution Radio Studio B. This first day of October 2025.
	A fearsome threesome edition with Joaquina Gopien and Russ Winner, whom we expect to join us momentarily.
	I begin with what might be regarded as the coup de gra to the Charlie Kirk shooting a van.
	Here we have a bizarre eyewitness interview that went out on ABC and it had more than a few peculiar aspects, in fact, even devastating.
	Saga and this one takes the cake when it comes to this bizarre world, and what is put on television programming, which you see here is the aunt of these two children, and her name is Tiffany Barker, and the two nieces right here.
	You have Mia Grant and Ellie Steele, and the media constantly pushing the propaganda, putting children on the spotlight on the world stage when this is completely obviously unnecessary.
	And these two look like something out of the shining, just again, a very bizarre world was presented on television programming.
	Let's get right to it with this very strange interview conducted on ABC's Good Morning America.
	We're joined now by Tiffany Barker and her nieces Al Steele and Mia Grant, who were all in the audience yesterday afternoon.
	Thank you for joining us uh this morning.
	I know it's been a difficult day for all of you right now.
	And Tiffany, let me begin.
	Oh, with you.
	just tell us what you remember about the scene yesterday.
	It's horrific.
	There was one shot that rang out.
	And everybody instantly looked around and then fell to the ground.
	People saw Charlie instantly get shot in the next and point this out real quickly.
	You see the audience at the whole scene in Utah, and it's not the largest crowd in the world, it's not a small crowd either.
	At the same time, you should be able to identify the individuals that claimed that they were there.
	They're there, they should be seen, because it's going to be noted that one of the girls state they were 15 feet away from Charlie when this went down.
	So if anybody could spot them.
	Let me make this rather telling point.
	This is the crowd all rushing away to safety.
	Presumably from the shots.
	But look at the tent.
	There's no one in the tent.
	There's no Charlie AIDS, there's no assistance, there's no security, there's nothing.
	ABC made a blunder of running footage that was of a rehearsal, a rehearsal.
	And you know that the crowd is only about one-third as dance as we're to actually be present.
	Check it out.
	But look at the tent.
	What a dead giveaway.
	In the front row.
	That's where they should be if they're only 15 feet away.
	But nonetheless, I want I wanted to point that out, which is mentioned a bit later in this footage that's presented with the whole scene.
	Let's continue on.
	I saw it in the neck, and everybody fell to the ground, and then people started running and got run over it.
	And I was with my family, we had 16 of us there.
	So five adults and like 11 children.
	And we instantly got separated.
	We're trying to find everybody, and we had amazing good Samaritans that grab kids.
	One took my niece and took her to her apartment.
	Very strange to bring someone's niece, her niece, to an apartment.
	It kind of reminds me of that one event in the Northeast from years ago with the individual named Gene Rosen bringing children into his home after that event as well.
	Just very strange, very bizarre.
	Let's continue.
	Somebody grabbed these two and my daughter and took them over to the tennis courts and stayed with them till I came.
	It was a super awful tragedy, and there were really good people that stood up and supported each other.
	And it was actually really powerful to see that.
	Alan Me, I can't imagine how scared you must have been yesterday.
	What can you tell us about what you all remember?
	You go first.
	So I remember hearing this thing.
	I didn't, it was hard to like know what it was, but then I saw it, and I saw blood everywhere, and it hit his artery, and then it's very bizarre.
	This this child talking about an artery being hit.
	How old is this child?
	And specific information being released, being stated here.
	Just again, doesn't pass a smell test with all these type of events.
	And when she says there was blood everywhere.
	We've looked, Candace, we previously parted at a camera from behind.
	was no blot.
	We have cameras from in front that similarly showed no blot, cameras from the sides of Similarly showing no blood.
	There's no blood in the tent anywhere.
	There's no blood on the ground.
	There's no blood from his body being carried.
	There's no blood on the hands of those who presumably were trying to staunch the bleeding from his neck.
	There is blood on the video that's been enormously widely broadcast, which seems to be surging out of his neck, but it doesn't appear to be arterial because it's not coming out with pumps and spurts.
	It doesn't soak into the fabric.
	And rather appears to be layered on top of it, because it was layered on top of it.
	It was CGI.
	Joaquim, your thoughts.
	Straight out of the studio, CGI production.
	I mean, yeah, we've seen so many anomalies with all the videos they've been parading out.
	Um and yeah, it's very obvious from that you know, film footage short there that there was nobody on the stage.
	Yes, clearly a rehearsal.
	These are all crisis actors, you know, doing their job, getting paid for it, you know, to fool the American public again, because it's not like we've never seen this before.
	You know, I mean, it's it's just a total scam and a humiliation, really, for America to have to bear witness once again in another false flag bullshit production that has all these holes in it.
	It's so shoddy.
	It's and I've been saying I I think they are actually doing it on purpose.
	I think they want the public to say, we can't believe anything the government says to us.
	They want to be able to crack down on dissent and all the people that might be basically grouping behind some kind of government coup or overthrow or you know, calls for that, you know.
	And and so they they want to be able to, you know, have an excuse for basically another false flag where they will actually begin attacking.
	He's he's putting out Trump is putting out, you know, the the military forces into 19 Of our 50 states, you know, so it is becoming militarized.
	They're fighting wars, and that war is against the American people right now.
	Isn't it stunning?
	Let me play a little more of this clip because uh it is so fascinating.
	Uh that they actually show real footage later, meaning footage from the scene, and you see how many more people there are there, how many there are inside the tent, making it how further confirming, of course.
	What's obvious from the beginning that this is rehearsal footage?
	I can't think of a more damning refutation of the official story.
	I just fell to the I fell to the ground.
	I covered my head with my hands, then I just started saying a prayer, and then we all ran.
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	So 20 years until retirement at this rate, it's probably gonna be more like 40.
	Okay, no, way too long.
	Let's see how much you're spending.
	So instead of running first, she stood there and had a prayer.
	Then after the prayer was completed, then she started running.
	Something seems very off with that.
	Let's continue on.
	And we ran to like we ran away to, and then we met at the tennis courts, and I couldn't, and then we couldn't find um anyone.
	It was just me, Mia, and then my other cousin Bella, and then we saw, and then we were calling everyone, we didn't know what to do, and then we finally met up with them, and it was just so scary.
	Again, this uh well-spoken child, very young, but very articulate for the for her age, and the names that are mentioned, Bella, like I've talked about so many times with the Bell.
	Let me back up here momentarily, and again, looking at the name, it's pronounced L, but it's spelled like Ellie Steel.
	You flip over the E's, you get your obviously your dual 33 in plain sight, the L's are threes as well.
	I mean, literally, this is full of coded 33s in plain sight, and her name is pronounced L. Find it interesting when it comes to Hebrew.
	L is God, just like Bella or Bell means Lord or Master, and the tennis courts are constantly being mentioned during the interview itself, and as I demonstrated in my Novak Djokovic video, specifically with this logo, when you turn it backwards, flip it around, it looks like sinner.
	So just another aspect of the law of reversal and play.
	Let's continue on here.
	Moving forward to Mia Grant during this interview on again ABC News, and let's take a listen to what is said here with again Mia Grant as she speaks after L or Ellie.
	I'm sure Mia.
	I remember that we were like 15 feet away.
	I gotta stop right here.
	15 feet away, so specific with the numbers, and again, like I showed earlier.
	If you're 15 feet away from what went down, where are the individuals that we see on the screen anywhere around here?
	We have to really zoom in here to get a good look.
	But they would be in this vicinity around here.
	It's hard to tell, obviously.
	There's different angles, but again, to say, you know, 15 feet away, that number 15 for a young child, just really bizarre how specific and how the whole interview goes, but we'll continue on here.
	Once again, let me back up just here.
	A tad to the start of this again, where she mentions the number 15.
	I've covered the number 15 before on the runic wheel, it is the cross.
	I'm sure Mia.
	I remember that we were like 15 feet away, and I thought like the shot was like a firecracker or something.
	I just it just didn't seem real.
	Firecracker didn't seem real.
	This is a constant over the years with these events.
	After that, we went like behind where Charlie Kirk was, and then we were meeting up at the tennis courts and trying to find everyone.
	See how much more chances are.
	I've always watched all of his videos.
	And I can't imagine what you all think.
	It's Charlie Kirk.
	Yeah, and definitely.
	Yeah.
	They just can't imagine George Stephanovis, just all full of sympathy for these kids.
	Stephanovist playing the role of the fool.
	But get this.
	You thought that was bad.
	Here's another sufficient reputation to show the whole thing's a prod.
	Guess when Turning Point rented the facility for Charlie Kirk's funeral.
	Remember, Charlie was killed allegedly on the 10th.
	The funeral was on the 21st of September.
	This in the column of leaning toward that we're watching.
	Hey fam, check this out.
	We can put this in the column of leaning toward that we're watching a movie.
	Get this.
	TP USA rented that state farm stadium for this 21st of September in May.
	And oh you have some other event that's going on.
	No, you go on their website.
	There was no other planned event that was on the schedule for the 21st of September.
	So are they expecting us to dig into this and find these things out and realize something's going on?
	Anyway, yeah, check it out.
	In May, Joaquin, in May.
	This is reminiscent of the March for Our Lives in Washington, DC, following the you know, Douglas School shooting in Florida, Parkland.
	They uh they had the March for Our Lives with major events, roads closed, all these acts just weeks after.
	Well, turns out in Washington, DC, if you're gonna close any roads for an event, you have to submit a permit application six months in advance, and we tracked it down.
	They did, they submitted the permit six months in advance for uh shooting allegedly having precipitated.
	I mean, it'd be an absurdity.
	The blatantcy, the lies are enormous.
	Your thoughts, how about that?
	The facility for the for the funeral was rented in in May.
	Oh, yeah, they plan ahead.
	Yeah, um, yeah, I mean Amazon came out with a book about the death of Charlie Kirk the day before the event, you know.
	There's so many of these anomalies.
	It's just such a giveaway to the American public that has their eyes open, uh, to realize it's all a scam, and it's all to basically one preoccupy all of our attention because you know, I mean, we're still talking about this, and it happened, you know, 20 days ago now.
	Uh so yeah, I mean, it's uh it's a misdirection uh ploy that steals attention of the American people away from things like the Jeffrey Epstein episode that has never been delivered in the files about the war, basically, the war that the EU is is trying to bring on against Russia, they're making all kinds of plans.
	The basically the war that uh Trump is going to wage in Venezuela uh in the Caribbean Sea.
	I mean, you know, all these things are going on, not to mention you know, the the quote 20-point peace plan by Trump uh to bring peace so for his Nobel Peace Prize to the Middle East, you know.
	I mean, all this crap, you know, yeah, it it's all a joke.
	It's you can't take anything seriously anymore.
	It is, it is it is just ridiculous beyond words.
	Yeah, we have now, of course, the missing bullet and blood when you pay.
	The missing bullet in the blood.
	Yeah, Well, let's talk about it.
	Artificial intelligent and the movement at the bullet hole there, too.
	You can see the bullet hole doesn't exactly move perfectly with him.
	It looks like it moves slightly more to the front, which is either a projection or AI enhancement some of some sort.
	So you could and to me it just looks fake.
	And we have a clip of someone that um knows how to do CGI.
	Uh I'll play that right here.
	So here's uh Ben Wehrman pointed this out.
	Was it all faked?
	Experienced video analysts have already come out and confirmed the original close-up of the neck is doctored.
	What is weird is all the footage I have when I plug it into final cut and analyze it, there's always blurred pixelated areas around Charlie.
	I don't want to sound crazy posting it, but I work on film and footage, and something's up with footage.
	I screen grab in the first few hours, almost like the clips were doctored in some way.
	So as of right now, and this is a great video, full breakdown, and we'll go through many of these clips.
	It seems that the most likely is the squid.
	However, there does seem to be indications in some places, it appears to be CGI overlays, augmented reality, which is plausible, but not necessary.
	But there does seem to be indications of that, which we are looking at.
	Let me let me go back to the urban.
	I'm amazing.
	Very good at the CGI.
	And it is of the chair that one of the security guys throws off after Charlie falls, and it does go through a table.
	So we're gonna put it up right now.
	Okay, right here.
	Well, it does look like he falls under the tablecloth as well.
	That might also be relevant here, but yeah, right there.
	Okay, and it will show it again.
	So the chair glitches and falls through the table.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that uh I don't think it's our eyes.
	Not well, not just saw it, but where the blood had been seen in other angles.
	So right there, the t-shirt looks quite clean.
	I don't know if that's a mic or whatever.
	But then when you look at his right collar, you can see that the microphone almost still seems to be attached in one of the frames.
	Yeah, there it almost looks like the microphone is still there, and the shirt is very clean.
	But in an earlier clip, we see the microphone disappear, and we'll show that one soon.
	Yes, so yeah, it looks like the microphone is still there, although in other clips it looks like it flew off.
	And then uh I also did see what looked like white poster board behind the white uh thing in the front there.
	But yeah, here you can see it looks like maybe a cord, maybe that's a blood spurt.
	But then you also see what looks like the microphone is still in its original position, as well as a lack of blood on the shirt.
	And I think we've all been stained with a cut before, and we know how blood really soaks up or material really soaks up blood.
	Right.
	Do you want to go into the chair?
	Uh like the comparison, like the side-by-side comparison of the chair falling through versus how it fell.
	I don't know if the audience like well, let's see if we can get a wonderful spell about the blood.
	You see, the bullet hole doesn't exactly move perfectly with him, it looks like it moves slightly more to the front, which is either a projection or AI enhanced.
	If you can see it's on a screen that his image is behind it, looks fake, and we have a clip of someone that um knows how to do CGI.
	Uh, I'll play that right here.
	Well, we probably got enough on uh on Charlie Joaquin Is there anything left?
	I mean, this is so insulting.
	Yeah, and then they carry him out to the SUV, and there's no blood, no whatsoever in the whole trip.
	Um, yeah.
	I mean, yeah, there's just so many.
	And I like I say, I think they know that there's going to be a large segment of the population that is going to be very doubtful about any kind of authenticity of any of their claims.
	And you know, I think most people also believe that Tyler Robinson did not commit this crime.
	I I think there's plenty of evidence that makes him innocent.
	So, you know, I mean, just everywhere you look with this particular event, it's all off.
	And you gotta be blind not to see it.
	I think that's right.
	And I can't believe there are those who still are adamant.
	Uh I have a colleague in JMK research who makes up his mind about how he thinks things should have played out, and then refuses to look at any evidence that contradicts it.
	I mean, I've I've said him on these videos, I've sent him the canvas, I've sent him the other where you can see there's no blood.
	I've sent him the CGI expose.
	I've sent him these, he won't even look at him.
	He won't even look at them.
	Uh Joaquin.
	I mean the great American philosopher C. Talked about ways of forming beliefs.
	One of which is science, you know, observation, experiment, measurement, actually looking at evidence.
	But another is a method of tenacity.
	Just make up your mind and never change.
	I don't know if I've ever seen a more clear-cut example of the method of tenacity than this colleague Ralph Sin Kay, who happens to be a chiropractor.
	He's done some good work on JFK in the past.
	He convinced me we didn't even have to know the facial features.
	Because of the height, the weight, the bill, the shirt, the t-shirt, were the same as those of Lee when he was arrested.
	But now we've confirmed the facial features where Larry Rivera has done superpositions, and for a certainty it is Lee Oswald, and not the fellow of the government claimed Billy Lovelace.
	He was also in the doorway beneath Lee on the steps, which means he he not only cannot be the lone demanded gunman, but cannot have fired any shots because he was in the doorway when the JFK motor came passed by.
	But when it comes to when it comes to this Charlie Kirk thing, he won't even look at the evidence.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think it it says a lot about the lack of civil discourse in America right now.
	They have the divide and rule going where a person cannot sit still, listen, and present each person's point of view without some kind of event of one, you know, either calling names against the other one.
	I mean, you know, civil discourse is just where two people disagree, but it's still back and forth, and and it's civil, but it seems like that's gone out the window in America now.
	Americans are just not the same.
	And I believe that it has a lot to do with there's a lot of factors.
	There is a the ultra MK Ultra programming, you know, there's the uh all the the basic heavy metals they're pouring down on us for decades now.
	The 5G, there's and the kill shot, you know, it's impacting people's thinking processes where they're not able to discern reality, and and and then if you have a differing point of view, they attack you or run away or call you names, and it's it's just not civil.
	So I I think it's just a symptom of our population now in the degeneration of the thinking processes, and Not to mention, you know, the public education system that dumbs everybody down as well and takes away their critical thinking.
	Public education television and maybe most of all cell phones.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We'll be right back with Joaquin Agopin.
	Still hoping Russ Winter will be joining us.
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	Thank you.
	Well, Christopher Key and I finally caught up with each other where he wanted to do an interview having featured Victor Hugo multiple times on his show.
	And he seems quite enamored of Victor.
	So we discussed the now nearly 900 visious defamatory sadistic videos that Victor has posted.
	And how Victor's claims that I can't show that I was served in the Marine Corps, his claim that he himself is a veteran, but I, as it were, am not.
	That I have not even filed lawsuits against Rumble and Bitch because I didn't pay my filing fee.
	could grant permission for me to share a rap sheet I'd obtained from uh Arizona PI.
	I mean, there's a lot of fascinating aspect to what we covered here.
	In the end, it looked as though Christopher might still be inclined to think there's something good, desirable, meritorious about Victor.
	So he had first tripped over us in relation to the debate, where we had a one-hour exchange, and I knew going in that Victor was gonna savage me, beat up.
	Victor wanted me to stay for seven hours.
	Well, I had other priorities.
	I went in with a desire to draw a map to prove that he was not a veteran, and that on the gifts and go sites where he claims to be a veteran and seeking donations are actually examples of stolen valor.
	And I actually got him to admit that he had only been a midshipman, that he'd not been commissioned as an ensign, that he'd never served on active duty.
	Well Christopher seemed to think he might be able to negotiate a resolution between me and uh Victor and wanted to do that.
	After this, Victor has declared, and this happened yesterday, he was gonna have an open session on Rumble, a live stream, and he was gonna answer questions.
	So in announcing this, which he did with Great Panfare, he omitted a link to the show with Christopher Key.
	I mean, that cannot be accent.
	Thus, I I took advantage of the opportunity to publish on this same massive link he created, where it's now, I don't know, 290 very prominent figures in the media, you know, podcasters and the like.
	So I just suggested in advance of the event some questions they might ask Victor, who seems not to have shared a link with my conversation with Christopher Key about which he will complain endlessly, so here's the link.
	Ask yourself if I address conclusively questions like the following.
	One, did Jim Fetzer serve in the United States Marine Corps?
	Two, is Victor entitled under law to call himself a veteran?
	Three.
	Does Jim Fetzer come across as an op as Victor claims?
	Four.
	Does Victor have a preoccupation with sexual perversions?
	Five.
	Does Jim have good reasons for his bit shoot rumble suits?
	Six.
	Has Victor committed defamation, harassment, and elder abuse?
	Seven.
	Should the village of Oregon be pursuing Jim's complaint?
	Victor is correct that at one point.
	I was sharing a satire of his and wins claims that I threw my Sandy Hook case, but it was faithful to the positions they have publicly proclaimed.
	And Brian has doubts about my Sandy Hook friends.
	But look how they have supported me.
	Ask Victor some of these questions during this Rumble live stream and see how he reacts.
	If he has nothing to hide, why did he go ballistic when I asked for his permission to share the Arizona VI's rap sheet with you?
	And how could he blunder so massively about paying my filing fees?
	Great questions all now.
	Nor I imagine do you, Joaquin, what happened with his rumble event.
	Do you have any idea?
	But I thought it was wonderful to suggest some questions that could be asked.
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, I have no idea what happened.
	I'm not really paying much attention to Victor these days.
	There's too much else going on in the world, but But um, yeah, I guess he had like a marathon event of five hours or something like that.
	Is that is that what you're saying he had?
	That he wanted, you mean originally when he had me on.
	I thought he I ran across something where he supposedly had a five-hour marathon or something like this.
	Do you know if he did that?
	I do not know, but I assume that's the rumble we're talking about here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because I can't imagine how anyone who actually watched my conversation with Christopher Key could have any enthusiasm for Victor, any doubts about where the where these things stand.
	Much less here Victor go on for five hours.
	Oh my God.
	I know how monstrous, how awful.
	By the way.
	So I began by pointing out where the whole matter, the dispute originated back on the 17th of December, where Brian Davidson, Victor Hugo, Don Grant and I were doing truth versus news, which is a weekly show.
	We have in the past recorded on Sundays, now on Mondays, where you are now participating, I'm delighted to say.
	But where Brian, toward the end of the first hour, took exception to Victor's ongoing, it's the Jews, it's the Jews mantra.
	Explain he felt that was more complex than that, that other parties are involved.
	He meant to a pilgrim society, the Vatican, Jesuits.
	We even have, of course, Jews against genocide who occupied Grand Central Station in protest.
	So when when Brian excused himself at the end of the show, I continued on with Victor, and even with him on the fearsome foresome, or would have, until I discovered that he was attacking Brian as a coward, which I knew not to be the case.
	So I took him off of the shows, unless he would be willing to make amends, withdraw his complaints against Brian, and perhaps we could have a reconciliation.
	But he was emphatic, no, that it was his obligation as a journalist to report these things.
	And he was insisting Brian was a coward, and he began an onslaught of what have now amounted to today close to 900 of these vicious attack videos against me, against you, against Brian, against Carl, uh against anyone who has spoken on my behalf.
	I mean, it's just absolutely stunning what he's done here, and it's it's outrageous because they don't have a foundation.
	Now, some people misunderstand and think that it's the content of the videos that's important.
	It is not.
	It is the cover, you know, like this.
	Alex Jones, Sandy Frodex, was a shills, Jim Vetzer, Brian Davidson Russ Winter, Stu Peters, Victor Hugo exposed Mike Adams, Brighton, Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, Jim Fatzer, Carl Herman, a tax audience in comments for Jim Fetzer, Brian, Stu Peters.
	Victor Hugo expose the Mike Adam Brighton.
	He just goes on.
	Well, these are all outrageous and ridiculous.
	We have made many complaints about the videos individually, which have been ignored, rebuffed.
	I'm convinced it's simply an AI bot that's been responding automatically to say no, no, they're all in accordance with the terms of service for BitChute and Romball.
	So I've had to proceed further, send them cease and assist demands, which they've also ignored, filed an affidavit, affidavits in the Western District Court of Wisconsin as to their misconduct, and now, of course, filed lawsuits, more to come.
	Meanwhile, I began by addressing his claim to be a veteran, American refugee living near the Russian border.
	I am now living as a veteran American refugee near the border with Russia in the Middle East in a former Soviet block country.
	But it turns out by law, Title 38 of the U.S. Code, a veteran is a person who served in the active military, naval air or space service of the United States, and was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.
	This is definition.
	Outlined in Title 38 of the U.S. Code is used to determine eligibility for various benefits and services.
	And yet during the beta as I recounted to Christopher Key, he admitted he was only a plebe.
	He was only first year at Indianapolis, that he was never commissioned as an ensign, that he never served on active duty, which means he's not eligible to call himself a veteran.
	It's stolen valor.
	Joaquim, your thoughts.
	Well, his MO seems to be, you know, the photos that he you know puts on the screen and the label of the title of these videos.
	And what comes up with the AI algorithms in the search engines are his under yours and my names, his shit is coming up.
	That's what the people see.
	Um and I think that's the whole goal of what he's doing, because we've already realized that the content of those videos oftentimes have nothing to do with the visual and the label, the title.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	So he's my view is he's probably getting paid per video he puts out.
	And the whole sensational aspect is to detain with the photograph, you know, it's obscene, some of those, and the mislabel, you know, with the whole defamation, you know, and and just keep pumping them out.
	Recycling, he keeps doing this.
	I mean, he uses even old tapes, old videos from months ago.
	He recycles them, you know, and he just keeps doing this, and it's an operation.
	And we've kind of figured out that he sometimes goes all night.
	He doesn't sleep, uh, which indicates maybe he's getting a little help, too.
	Uh, but yeah, I'm sure he's getting paid because they hire, and you you felt, you know, it was an inside job from the whole Sandy Hook Promise group that you know generates all kind of income, and he's getting paid through that.
	And the the key here is that the establishment that does all these horrible things, like you know, the whole Kirk shooting, all of it, the wars.
	They want to divide and conquer and totally blow up alt news, the independent news people that bring a kind of like a corner on the truth because you don't get it from mainstream media, obviously.
	So they want to divide and conquer the truth movement, the alt news movement, and they hire people like him to be character assassins, and that's his job.
	And he gets paid by the video of his character assassinations.
	And they're treating me as the tip of the spear as it were.
	And all my colleagues who've spoken up on my behalf, including you, Susan Ross, Carl, Brian, And so forth, but now he's expanded to attack Mike Adams, Stu Peters, SGT report, X22 report.
	I mean it's like half of the alt-truth community is under attack by Victor Hugo Vaca.
	So I think it's very clear.
	He is trading in stolen valor, and it's shameful.
	Now, as to whether or not I'm uh served in the Marine Corps and can prove it.
	Well, back in 2019 and 2020, I put up two blogs about this issue way back when.
	And here you can see at the top my honorable discharge from the United States Marine Corps below my rank as a captain when I resigned to enter graduate school to earn a PhD in the history and the philosophy of science.
	And here he's made so much of my DD 214, but it's been up for half a decade, right there on my blog.
	There it is.
	And it's very curious because uh Christopher didn't seem to understand the nature of a DD 214 as a discharge form.
	He said he'd ask Victor for his.
	And when, because Victor has claimed to have when he's got a piece of paper he's waived in the past, but he refused to give it.
	He didn't give it to Christopher.
	He was insulting to Christopher as a what?
	You mean you don't believe me?
	Because I think there are serious questions here about the circumstances under which he was separated from Minneapolis.
	But Joaquin, do we have any doubt here about whether Jim Fetzer served in the United States Marine Party?
	Give me a break.
	No, you've been a very upfront from the very beginning on that aspect of well, pretty much everything.
	Uh, just to basically prove all the allegations that Vacka puts out there are false.
	You know, I think uh you know anybody with any objective mind would would be able to see night and day difference between what you present, what you claim, and what he claims.
	And you know, he's he's got a following of probably three uh psychophant type people that uh that feed his ego and and and they're like groupies or something like that, probably.
	And he has no more following.
	I I thought that he would be fizzled out by now, you know.
	But his key is he keeps going on these different shows and getting a little bit more mileage, and but then he turns on everybody that has that ends up with kind of some kind of objectivity.
	He turns on every single one of them.
	He just turned on Christopher Key.
	Uh, you know, and what he's turned on Sergeant, he's turned on on um.
	Stu Peter, Stu Peters, even.
	Yeah, he's got some big names up there that that he's interviewed with, and he trashes all of them.
	Uh eventually, if they if they have anything positive to do with me, they they get trashed.
	Uh yeah.
	I think he's gotta be being paid by the peace.
	I agree with that.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, of course, uh, he claimed I threw my Sandy Hook lawsuit.
	He had this Airsatz attorney from Ohio, Lynn Young.
	Meaning, I'm not at all convinced of his qualifications or credentials, but that maybe that's just me, right?
	So, way back when, this is in April, I wrote an open letter to Victor Hugo explaining how his attacks on Brian were wrong, his attacks on me were wrong, how I'd not thrown my Sandy Hook lawsuit that I was still in court.
	Here are four different appeals before the district for Wisconsin Court of Appeals that are still active, that the court has not yet rendered decisions upon.
	So, how would I can I possibly have thrown my Sandy Hook lawsuit when I'm still in court and actually took it all the way to the Supreme Court when he went on with Kevin Barrett and told him I'd thrown my Sandy Hook lawsuit.
	Kevin said, no, he didn't.
	And Kevin was there at my trial for damages.
	And it even published about it.
	The legal lynching of a truth seeker.
	Jim Fetzer Stalinist Isle Show trial.
	This reflected Victor doesn't do any research.
	He doesn't actually know what he's talking about.
	What he's looking for is anything he can twist or turn or pervert into an attack upon me, my colleagues, and other in the alt media.
	There's even a book.
	Ron Avery, who has an archive of most of the documents in my case at the various levels, the circuit court, the Court of Appeals, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, the United States Supreme Court.
	He's got it all there.
	But here he's published a book about the multiple ways in which my rights were violated by the judge in the circuit court in order to bring about a predetermined conclusion of my being liable for defamation for describing a death certificate that had been provided by the plaintiff,
	suggestive, of course, of bait and switch to my research colleague Kelly Watt, where her affidav, where they submitted an alternative, complete that certificate with their complaint, and then would eventually argue in court that that's what Leonard Posner had shared with Kelly Watt,
	and somehow implying that I had edited it to remove the state and town certification of file number, which was, of course, completely absurd, and where Kelly's own affidavit that the one published in the book, the incomplete without state town or file, was the same one she was given by Leonard Bosner.
	The judge suppressed it.
	He didn't acknowledge the uh affidavit.
	Indeed, I had two, not one, two forensic document experts who submitted reports that not only was the one published fake, the one attached to the complete fake, but two others, one publisher code of edit Dave Gaheri had obtained from the town, one I had obtained from the state, all four were fake.
	And the judge simply set them aside.
	It's not helpful, not helpful.
	Give me a break.
	Meanwhile, he's gone on to claim I'm a government op here, breaking news.
	Gonzo journalist exposes a Jim Fetzer as government op.
	But how's that possible?
	I've now published massively on JFK and on 9-11, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, uh, Charlottesville, Parkland, even the Moonlanding exposing governmental complicity in the deception.
	Joaquin, I gotta say, if I'm a government op, I must be the most counterproductive in history.
	I mean, I mean, give me a break.
	Government op?
	This is absurd.
	Your thoughts.
	Well, I like I said, you know, he's burned his reputation.
	Anybody with any objectivity or open eyes would realize that you are a stature in the alt news field.
	You are basically, you know, I've called you before as like the father of false flags, you know.
	Um, because you've done so many of them, you know.
	I I've written about three different articles on different false flags, but but I just got tired of it because they're they come out every other week now, you know, another false flag.
	But but yeah, I mean I I don't think, and basically we've seen you know, him burn bridge after bridge, you know, with other people, and then he turns on them too.
	Um so yeah, that he's been hired, he's a hired gun to to basically assassinate reputations.
	And but it hasn't been working because you're, you know, a lot of people have come to your side realizing that you know he's full of crap.
	And you're the legit.
	You know, so I mean, the the it's an open and shut case in the court of public opinion.
	Yeah, I was actually glad to have the opportunity to review the bidding with Christopher, but he seemed rather obtuse.
	Very difficult, it seemed for him to understand.
	I mean, here are some of my books on JFK, and I've advised a government represent Luna.
	If she wants to get to the heart of it, there are five people she needs to call as witness, David W. Manick, MDPHD, the leading expert on the medical evidence.
	Douglas Sorn, senior analyst for military records for the Assassination Records Review Board.
	John B. Costella PhD has done a brilliant tartal on how we know there's a bruder film was revised based upon internal evidence.
	Larry Rivera, the leading expert on Mexico and the limo stop, which has been excised from the film and myself on the politics assassination, especially, who is responsible and why.
	But these were these three books published in 1998, 2000, 2003, shattered the cover up, where I brought together the best experts to ever study the case, and for Victor to trash me as a government op.
	I mean, it's absurd on its face.
	Meanwhile, here was the argument of Win Young as to why I had thrown my case, which he knew without reading a single brief.
	First, I didn't have writers' insurance.
	I didn't even know there was such a thing.
	Second, I didn't move my case to federal court, where he claimed it could have been done because federal issues were involved, that is to say, First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the parties were from several states.
	Lenny Posner, Connecticut, myself here in Wisconsin, so that he believed that because that was not done, I had deliberately thrown the case.
	But insurance would only have paid off liability.
	It would have affected any argument I made in court.
	I couldn't find an attorney to represent me.
	Mike Balichek, my co-editor, and I reached out to 70 attorneys in Wisconsin.
	No one would touch it with a 10-foot pole.
	I would almost certainly have been denied had I moved to federal court and I'm still fighting it to have it reversed.
	Joaquin's situation is just about as absurd as it gets.com.
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	And by the way, when young justifies not reading any of my briefs, not even my answer, nor my book.
	Because having concluded I threw my case, it's all propaganda.
	He knows independently of the evidence that I threw it.
	And therefore anything I said is going to be contaminating his thing.
	I mean, this is ridiculous, Joaquin.
	It's like Rob Sinke, who's got his mind made up that you know Charlie Kirk would never participate in a fake of his assassination, and therefore all the evidence that it actually was faked, he won't look at it.
	Meanwhile, while Larry Reber has done brilliant research moving the figure known a door man staying in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository was in fact Lee Oswald, as held wiswick, Jim Garrison, and other serious students of JMK, I believe.
	I was sure he could help to resolve the issue by superposition.
	Kelly Watt noticed that Lenny Posner, whose real name is Reuben Fabner, that his younger son Michael Wabner, who is supposed to bore a striking resemblance to Noah Posner.
	So I asked Larry to do a superposition because now Kelly was suggesting rightly that Noah Posner was a fiction, made up photographs of Michael Wabner as a child, where he's actually now doing stand-up comedy in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
	This evidence was what I wanted to submit to the court, and they wouldn't allow it.
	They didn't admit any of my evidence, so I could claim there were no disputed facts, taking the plaintiff's account of matter where I disputed virtually every aspect in order to find me guilty of defamation on the basis of a summary judgment.
	Meanwhile, Victor has quite a history.
	This is from 2008, Miami New Times.
	Court romantics from one of Miami's strangest.
	Victor Hugo Vaca is a creative way of getting his point across to protest the nastiness of bureaucracy, the wayward, fiercely opinionated.
	Naval officer turned artist.
	Notice, Naval Officer turned artist, has tried everything from running for U.S. president to hinting four-foot penis paintings across from the VIP section at Art Basel.
	Wherever he goes, controversy seems to follow.
	Well, he challenged me on Sandy Hook, and I just invite everyone to check out what is, I think my most definitive, though I have longer and many other presentations at the College of Complexes on 10 Feb 2024, Sandy Hook.
	What we know now that we didn't know then, where I explained how participants in the drill had reached out to me because they didn't like the way I was being beat up in court.
	So what I do is prove that three of those who are alleged to be deceased, Emily Parker, Noah Posner, and Victoria Soto, Emily, blonde-eyed little girl, blue-eyed, blonde-haired blue-eyed, supposed to have been killed.
	Noah supposed to have been killed.
	Victoria, supposed to have been killed heroically as a teacher, heroically giving her life.
	And they sent me all kinds of stuff.
	Look at how Emily Parker has grown up to be this very fetching young woman, super smart, impresses the hell out of me.
	And here's a Victoria Soto.
	She's gone on to get degrees, post her, post her decimation and get this.
	She even reprised her role in Uvalde as Eva Morales.
	So it was her mutual friend Steve Lucia who had contacted me.
	And during one of our conversations, Margaret's on the phone in the background with Victoria and says, learning Victoria reprised the role at Uvalde.
	Margaret asked, How much were you paid?
	And Victoria said, 210,000.
	And I heard all that.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Meanwhile, they sent me a lot of good stuff.
	How about this?
	This is a Connecticut FEMA schedule.
	This is for the headquarters in Bridgeport for exercise L366, planning for the needs of children in disasters, the Sandy Hook event.
	And they even set out a map.
	How to get from Bridgeport down to Dickinson Drive for the whole exercise would be conducted.
	I think that's pretty good.
	Major assistance.
	Meanwhile, as you know, I have filed suit against Mitch and Rumble for violating their own terms of service, where a punitive penalties could run 30 million each in the Western District of Wisconsin United States court, federal court.
	Now, when Victor learned of this, someone told him I hadn't paid my filing fee.
	So he goes about issuing a huge denunciation.
	The court has denied Jim Fetzer's informal pauperus.
	This means if you're indigent, if you don't have the money, and because I had 450 awarded against me at the trial for damages, and another 650, when I sought to expose that the party who came to testify on as a deposition was not actually Leonard Posner.
	The judge found me in contempt at court acted another 650.
	So with a 1.1 million lien, I felt I was justified in applying for Pobler status, so I wouldn't have to pay the filing fee.
	Well, it was denied.
	So I was ordered to pay 405 for each of my suits against Rumble, which combined could with punitive damages run to 60 mil.
	In other words, it was never filed on August 12th.
	The courts likely determined both actions are frivolous and malicious.
	I have until September 5th to pay.
	But he goes on to make a big deal about it.
	Well, look at this.
	What do we have here?
	We have the receipts for paying my filing fees.
	How about that?
	And this one, notice is August 12th.
	How about that?
	August 12th.
	I think that was the rumble.
	And then on August 14th for the bit shoot.
	Wow.
	So Jim Fetzer actually made his filing fee after all.
	And then when I suggested, when I asked Victor, I said, okay, Victor, may I have your permission to share the rap sheet the Arizona PI sent to me with his list?
	I think they'd find it rather fascinating.
	He went ballistic.
	The James Fetzer and every witness in this email thread.
	Let it be known.
	Without any doubt or claim that I, Victor Hugo Vogt Jr., have not given the Charlatan James Fetzer permission whatsoever in response to his public demand in a press release.
	Okay, Victor, may I have your permission to share the rap sheet that the ACPI sent to me with this list?
	I think they'd find it rather fast, eight.
	To me, Joaquin, this was so revealing.
	You know, I've got this rap sheet.
	I've been advised by the PA not to share it publicly unless it's been verified by the Florida state of law enforcement.
	They haven't done it.
	But if I got his permission, okay.
	It runs 16 pages.
	16 pages, Joaquin.
	And Vicker throws in, of course, I have nothing to hide.
	Tell me your thoughts.
	Yeah, this guy does the projection on all the guilt and negative things about him.
	He always projects onto other people.
	And you know that that's basically, you know, it's it comes down to psychopathic behavior, really.
	That's what psychopaths do.
	They project whatever negative they do onto other people.
	That's their MO.
	And so, yeah, he's he does it all the time.
	That's that's how he operates.
	Now, the rap sheet included information about his father, Victor Hugo Vac.
	And I did mistakenly read birth date, age attributed it to Junior on one occasion.
	Trivial compared to all his offenses, but if he's got nothing to hide, why not why not let the rap sheet speak for itself, Victor?
	Nothing to hide?
	It is outrageous, outrageous.
	How many of you think fall for that, my friend?
	Here it continues.
	Here it continues.
	I, Victor Hugo Vaca, do not give James Vetzer permission to share the rap sheet at the Arizona BI send me with this list.
	Not because I have anything to hide.
	God forbid he should have anything to hide, for I never would have been allowed to live inside Maidland, China on a 10-year visa as a cultural ambassador for the modern art music movement, working with masters in the R world and meeting with advisors as Xi Jing.
	If there was anything in my documented past, that would embarrass a compromise, either the U.S. government or Chinese Communist Party, but rather because James Fetzer has already admitted that his research and claims of fact are so shoddy and illegitimate that Fetzer has publicly claimed on more than one occasion that Victor Hugo Vaca is a Jewish Mossad agent being paid by Sandy Hook promise,
	working for the FBI under Kashmattel, all without providing a single shred of verifiable evidence.
	And Fetzer has never retracted his demonstrably ridiculous statement that Victor Hugo Vaca Jr. is actually six months older than James Fetzer and has had several facelifts and botox, as noted in the video evidence below.
	Jim Fetzer discredits himself, claiming Victor Hugo is 86-year-old Jew working for Sandy Hook Brahmins.
	Now my friends in Sandy Hook told me when I mentioned to them, Victor Hugo is attacking me, that it was Sandy Hug Promise.
	Uh that they had hired Victor Hugo to destroy my character, for which he has a reputation, because they want to protect the gravy train where they're making over a million bucks a month for gullible saps who do think Sandy Hook was real.
	So they want to protect that by discrediting me so massively that even if my case is reversed, no one is gonna take it seriously.
	Now, as far as FBI Cash Mattel, that was a suggestion of Catherine Horton during an interview I did with her, her assessment of Victor Hugo's style and modus operandi, where she also believed that the thumbnails, the graphics that Victor Hugo uses were generated by AI, which may very well be true.
	There's so many and so massive.
	But he can't even differentiate claims made by Catherine Horton, who's a formidable intellect in her own right.
	She has a PhD as a particle physicist from Oxford.
	She's led the legal fight against targeted individuals by directed energy weapons in the courts, and she's married to Bill Binney, our NSA hero, who exposed that Russia Gate was a fabrication because the files had been downloaded in the Eastern Time Zone at a rate too rapid for distant hacking.
	But of course, I do affirm he was paid by Sandy or promise, and from everything I can infer, he is a Jewish Mossad agent.
	Meanwhile, the chief of police of my own village here of Oregon, 10 miles south of Madison, notwithstanding my providing an enumeration of the statutes in Wisconsin that have been broken in hundreds of examples thereof is written to me.
	Sergeant Colson and I have returned reviewed the material You have sent.
	This is not a matter.
	The Oregon Police Department is going to take action on.
	Thank you, Chief Pankoff, where I've now had to write to the chief and the village president that their Wisconsin statutes holding officials, public officials guilty for not having performed their duty in office because they're not pursuing my proposed my request for a criminal complaint, which I want to send to Interpol.
	Meanwhile, we got just as some illustrations of the kind of nonsense rubbish he publishes.
	This woman makes X22 report, SGT report, Jim Fetzer, Susan Bradford, and Don Lemmon.
	Sound like geniuses.
	He's done this crackhead Jesus thing that seems to be his greatest claim to fame.
	Get this.
	Victor Hugo reads kinky email, sex star of Susan Bradford, sent to Senile, Jim Fetzer, Herpes Russ Winter.
	This is a nice illustration of the sadistic, lascivious defamatory behavior, where if you actually just listen to the content of the videos, often they have nothing to do with a thumbnail or the caption as you've observed already, Joaquin.
	So he found this photograph of a naked old woman and put on Susan Bradford's head.
	Give me a break.
	Here's another.
	He claims Jim Fetzer, Susan Bradford, show signs of mental illness.
	Use FBI Dan Mangino-Caspatel.
	This web lies.
	I'm really not at all sure where he came up with some of this nonsense, but there it is.
	Here's another.
	He's actually marketing Fetzer gay tranny undies for men who love women and women who want to be men Well, I've explained when I shared this, for example, with the Oregon police department, that I'm straight, that I have a son by my first marriage, and a daughter by my second.
	But here's Victor implying that I'm gay.
	How nasty is that?
	Meanwhile, Hope Girl did a report on my lawsuits that was very, very good.
	And Victor has attacked that, and now posts my conversation with Charlie Key with Christopher Key.
	He's attacked her again.
	Discredited SGD report guest hope girl repeats reputation wrecking ball.
	Jim Fetzer, Angel of Death Lie.
	Well, this reputation wrecking ball is Victor, not me.
	Indeed.
	As I explained to Christopher Keith, my Sandy Hook friends told me that Monty Frank, he's an attorney representing them, hired Victor to attack me and protect Sandy Hook promise, and that Victor is known as the angel of death.
	With nearly 900 attack videos, he's either a lunatic or being paid.
	So I asked an AI, is Victor Hugo Govacka II known as the angel of death?
	And here was the response.
	Victor Hugo Vaca II has indeed been referred to as the Angel of Death, but it's not a widely recognized or mainstream nickname.
	The nomeniker appears to stem from his reputation as a provocative and controversial figure.
	Particularly in the realm of character assassination through satire, performance art and media.
	He's known for using parity and shock art to critique public figures and institutions.
	Crane works like Crackhead Jesus, which won real court transcripts with fictionalized character, engaging In confrontational public performances and naming individuals and videos and writings.
	The angel of death, label, seems to reflect his self-styled role as a figurative executioner of reputations, using art to expose what he views as corruption or hypocrisy.
	Let me know if you'd like a deeper dive into his artistic work or controversies.
	There it is, objectively from AI in response to my question.
	And now Victor Ocorse attacks Christopher Key.
	Shocking.
	Christopher Key was his line cock when Reputation Rabbinball Jim Petzer yells at him.
	Ah, Joaquin, it is the case that toward the end of my presentation when I was going through the statutes in Wisconsin that have been violated.
	Christopher thought it was a bit tedious.
	Actually, I gotta concede, it was a bit tedious.
	And yelled at me, and I responded by being emphatic about finishing, including with those thumbnails I've just shared for you to have a nice powerful concluding punch, which was affected by his distraction.
	But I certainly admit that I responded rather emphatically to him when he sought to interrupt in any case.
	This is an overview of a two and a half hour conversation I had with Christopher Key, and I realized afterwards I should have added the AI response to my question is Victor Hugo Vaca II, known as the angel of death because it is so talling.
	Your thoughts.
	Well, I also think it's kind of important to bring up son of Enos, you know, the Canadian guy that does podcasts on a regular basis, and he talks about a lot of the same false things that we do, you know.
	And so apparently Vaca got on a show with him and got him in the same way that he was completely every other word is the Jews, it's the Jews.
	He went on a program with Enos, and apparently for two hours or whatever, got Enos to basically in some way agree that it's the Jew problem.
	And shortly after that, the I believe Ontario police arrested him, put him in prison, a jail, I guess, and he's been there all summer.
	He's still there.
	I heard that he's about to be released, but this kind of like kind of goes along with the angel of death kind of thing, because if I mean there are they have all these anti-Semitism laws,
	both in America as well as Canada and Canada and Europe actually are, especially UK and Canada, they are going after people that put things that the government does not agree with that might even be true, and they're putting these people in jail now.
	And you better believe that Americans are next.
	The First Amendment rights are out the window now.
	We no longer have a constitution that's upheld by our court and justice system.
	So, yeah, this poor guy uh in Canada has been wasting away in a jail for the last what two months or so.
	And all he did has done is probably agreed that it's been a Jew problem, you know.
	I've written many articles exposing the Jews and Israel.
	I mean, they're moving in a direction where, you know, I mean, the what?
	Netanyahu is basically saying on a video, he's saying that they have Larry Ellison and his son or something that are buying out TikTok.
	So they're taking over that social platform.
	And then he mentions, you know, Elon Musk and X. And he's saying, Oh, yeah, he's very good friend.
	And uh, yeah, we'll take care of him too.
	We're gonna talk to him.
	So he's basically making sure that any critic of Israel's genocide against Jews is going to be interpreted by these, you know, weirdos that are out for the people, blood, as anti-Semitism, anti-hate crimes.
	It falls under that, you know, very subjective, however, you want to interpret the anti-hate laws.
	And so, yeah, they're going up all over the place, and that's their avenue with what Palantir, they're doing all the data processing on every hum every American citizen, and they're coming up with the list.
	So, yeah, that's the agenda with the fascist marriage that Trump has with the technocratic billionaires.
	You know, a couple weeks ago he he brought them to the White House dinner, you know, um, and showed them the whole development.
	He's he's put two mil million dollars or something like this into having a ballroom, you know.
	He's made over the whole White House West Wing or something like that into his own image.
	This guy is such an egotist, unbelievable.
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	Well, there are troubling developments on the international scene.
	Russia Ukraine war latest.
	Europe sends billions in Rosen Russian assets to Kiev as Moscow threatens response.
	The EU has transferred four billion euros to Ukraine using revenue generated from frozen Russian assets.
	The country's finance minister revealed on Wednesday.
	It comes as European leader discussed a possibility of transferring up to 140 billion in the same manner this week.
	Moscow has considered the procedure theft of its sovereign assets that would seek the prosecution of countries and individuals involved in it.
	Indeed, they should.
	This is outrageous.
	Meanwhile, Lavrov, Sergi Lavrov, the most experienced diplomat in the world today by far, accuses NATO and the EU of declaring war on Russia.
	President Donald Trump calls Russia a paper tiger, pointing to Russia's failure to win the war against Ukraine swiftly, not a wise thing to say russia's key diplomat has accused nato another and the european union of declaring war on russia and using ukraine to wage it
	Prompting pushback from Western diplomats and NATO leaders called that claim a distortion of reality and say it's Moscow and brought more back to Europe.
	Russian foreign minister Sergei Labrov made the remark a fellow diplomats at a G-20 meeting of foreign ministers at the UN in New York on September 25th.
	Lavrov accused Western powers of trampling on the UN charter out of neocolonial ambitions, leading to increased global insecurity and regional conflict.
	Another clear example is a crisis in Ukraine provoked by the West, through which NATO and the EU have already declared a real war on my country and are directly involved in it,
	where, as you know, Joaquin, a recent hit on a base there in Ukraine, took out a five or six American fighter jets and dozens of NATO forces there.
	Russia, I think, is toughening up.
	I think Putin has come to realize there's no hope for reconciliation or peace with the West, and that he just has to proceed in the best interest of Russia.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
	Putin has finally realized that the United States is completely untrustworthy.
	And the only way to go is military conquest of the territory of Ukraine and install a neutral government into that uh Kiev government.
	Uh they have been left with no other choice.
	And in the meantime, because Russia is making so many gains, the West, the NATO, they're getting very, very nervous now.
	And that's why this whole you know ruse about the drones, you know, in Poland, and they're not even Russian.
	They they they confirmed this, you know, but they're constantly now upping the ante.
	And the latest is NATO is now made a change in their policy, war policy now, and they will be going after to shoot down the Russian planes.
	Now they were just saying that they came over Estonia airspace, and the Russians say no, we did not.
	Uh so what's gonna happen?
	It's all being set up.
	There's going to be a false flag, they're going to shoot down a Russian plane, and then Russians are going to be forced to have to, you know, retaliate, and it's going to get, you know, into an Article V, NATO, and then the, you know, once one country is attacked in NATO by their Article V membership, then all the NATO, including America, of course.
	So this is the whole idea of entering World War III.
	You know, right now it's it's a pretty much a hybrid war, World War III, but it's gonna go full guns uh with a next false flag.
	Let me just point out the irony of Putin's kind and general approach because so many of the residents of Ukraine or Russian.
	I mean, Ukraine's been a part of Russia historically.
	Kiev was the original capital of Russia.
	So he hasn't wanted to damage the infrastructure.
	He hasn't wanted to kill the residents there.
	He entered originally way back when, because it was about to be a massive onslaught on uh Donbass that was gonna slaughter all these Russian-friendly ethnic Russians who cared about and supported Russia, just as took place in Gaza with the Israelis.
	So it was an intervention following the coup of 2014, changing the government to a neo-Nazi style, where they began artillery barrages in the Donbass, and by the time of the intervention, it killed 2,000 residents of the region with these totally unjustified artillery strikes.
	And is a former artillery officer, I assure most deaths in combat are from artillery.
	It's not the infantry, it's not the tanks, it's not even bombs.
	So I take it now if we toss in nukes, that would change the equation.
	But it's from artillery, classically.
	And now, because it's been drawn out all this time, Russia has become stronger.
	Ukraine and NATO has become weaker.
	They've been sending all these weapons as the U.S. to Ukraine, which they consume at a phenomenal rate because they're not really highly disciplined.
	So they run through howitzer after howitzer, you know, they run out of shells.
	The Western nations, including the U.S. have depleted their stockpiles, while Russia has systematically ramped up production.
	They've improved their missiles.
	They have the most well-trained and experienced fighting force in the world today in Russia.
	So isn't it ironic, Joaquin, that because Putin was being kind and gentle and wanting to make peace with a West, actually, the West has weakened itself, and now Russia is stronger than ever before.
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, and look at all the economic sanctions.
	The EU's going after their ninth wave of it, 19th wave of international sanctions.
	Look at the effects of its economy in Europe versus the economy in Russia, where it grew by three and a half percent last year, and it's uh even though it's slowing down because the whole world economy is slowing down, and Europe's about to collapse economically, but they still have a growth of I think uh one and a half percent this year in Russia.
	So I and of course, their war-making production far exceeds any other country on earth.
	Uh and and look at the West, their whole weapons depletion.
	You know, United States and Europe both.
	They can't fight a war, yet it's being set up.
	These stooges that they have there as puppets, taking orders from City of London, are basically committing suicide and homicide against their own people.
	And that's what's uh, you know, we're we're in the we're it could happen at any time, you know, whether it's like this year or early next year.
	I I don't see any way now that World War III can be avoided.
	And there is no effort at all diplomatically to try and reach any kind of negotiation for peace.
	There's none now.
	It's all abandoned.
	You know, Trump basically is struck out.
	And then his proposal, the 20-point proposal, you know, for i Israel, and Israel is accepted.
	Well, that's all is set up, you know.
	No way, because it it's it, you know, it's it's not going to be accepted by by Hamas.
	And so then they're gonna be able to use the excuse.
	Well, Hamas didn't accept this, we did, and so, you know, everything's being set up for escalation, provocation and escalation.
	And what is the end game goal?
	It's to break up, Balkanize Russia, the largest country on earth with all the most natural resources, to break it up into a bunch of pieces.
	They did the mini uh Balkanization with Yugoslavia, Clinton years, the end of 1990s, you know.
	Well, they've been they've had that agenda against Russia, Iran, and China forever now in the Cold War era, and and you know, it's gonna call uh culminate through World War III.
	They're not gonna get what they want because it's already been set up where the Eastern powers are gonna beat the West that's so weak in every way, economically, militarily, every way.
	Yes, I agree.
	I mean, it's colossal stupidity, and yet they're full speed ahead.
	And Trump has been outrageous here calling Russia a paper tiger.
	I mean, what kind of detachment from reality that's a very special kind of lunacy, in my opinion, Joaquin.
	That the again, America, America is the paper tiger.
	That's been proven, you know.
	Uh so what do you do?
	You project what you are onto your enemy, and that's their MO.
	That that's what Vaca does.
	Yeah, and that's what that's what countries do, like America.
	Yes, yes.
	I agree.
	Absolutely incredible.
	Meanwhile, Colonel McGregor warns of war between Iran and Israel coming, stand by.
	Because I can see how it's going to end at the border geographical borders of the United States, given the fact that Antifa is an international organization.
	And if it's designated a terrorist organization, well, uh, you know, in my opinion, anyway, for what it's worth, is is uh and if there is, if if this comes out from the investigation, which is which is the point you're making, you know, you know, heaven helped people that are on the other side of that.
	Uh I wouldn't like to have the the power of the United States coming after me if I had been funding into this organization or been anyway near uh, you know, what has happened.
	Uh but just to press on, because um, you know, many other things have happened since the last time we spoke.
	Um I was very interested in in a comment you made in a recent um interview where you were suggesting that um you you believe that Israel will go back to war again very shortly with Iran.
	And uh I was just wondering why, you know, what what's in your mind in saying that and and and what is the Israeli objective?
	Well, you just hit the nail on the proverbial head.
	What is Israel's objective?
	And Israel cannot be the dominant power in the region as long as Iran remains intact and a viable force.
	Iran has emerged from this uh 12-day conflict much stronger for the experience.
	The assumption was at the time that the Israelis could balkanize Iran the way they have Syria.
	Remember, we supported the Israelis along with the British, especially British MI-6 in its effort to destroy the Assad regime and create chaos in Syria.
	Well, we've got that.
	Uh part of Syria is under Kurdish control, part of it is under Sunni Islamist control, part of it on the coast is still controlled by the Russians and neighboring Alawites, and then the southern portion is under Israeli and Druze control.
	So that in many ways is the kind of picture that Israel would like to build all over the region.
	Israel feels safe when all the nations around it are weak and divided and incapable of governing themselves, frankly.
	They see that as a benefit strategically to Israel.
	Now, I'm saying Israel, I'm I mean Mr. Netanyahu, obviously, and the Lakudniks, the party that support him.
	He wants to do that to Iran.
	That has failed.
	And so the question is can he realize all of his goals in the region, which involves territorial acquisition in Syria, potentially Jordan, southern Lebanon, as well as parts of Egypt.
	Can he do that and still survive with it Iran standing in the way?
	Iran is kind of a colossus.
	Remember, Iran is the size of Western Europe.
	It has a very large population.
	They've turned out to be far more sophisticated and capable than the Israelis or we, in my judgment, ever gave them credit for being.
	So I think he has to, it's a kind of do-or-die moment, because right now he has virtual complete control of the United States Congress and the White House.
	Uh everything that he does is really dependent upon our unconditional support.
	So as long as he's got that, I think he feels he's got to use it.
	So I think uh September, certainly October latest would probably be December or November.
	But I I rather thought by the end of September, beginning of October, we'd see some action.
	Now, how could that occur?
	Well, I would imagine a false flag is eminently possible, where something occurs that uh MI-6 and Israel cooperate to uh facilitate, and then it's blamed on Iran.
	No doubt we uh that is the CIA would have a hand in that as well.
	Uh I just uh I just have the feeling something like that will occur.
	But I mean, it Israel is geographically uh, you know, quite a bit away from Iran.
	So this would be uh this would be air power, some kind of air power strike again, or do you see something other developing?
	Yeah, I I think so.
	Air power, in other words, missile power as well.
	Yeah.
	But remember, the Israelis do have submarines.
	Uh, these are conventional diesel subs.
	The Germans built them and provided them to the Israelis uh free of uh charge.
	Uh they do have nuclear warheads on cruise missiles that they can fire from those submarines.
	Uh they already know that there has been tremendous progress in Iran with regard to air and missile defense.
	Uh the Russians that initially offered to help uh the Iranians, the Iranis Really didn't take up that offer, felt strongly they could do it on their own.
	Well, after the experience of the 12-day conflict, they turned back to Russia, and the Russians have provided an enormous amount of support with regard to integrated air defenses.
	I think the Russians have also made it clear that if uh the Israelis try to destroy Iran, in other words, to do to it what was done in Syria, that they will not stand by and allow that to happen.
	And for that matter, the Chinese have also made similar noises.
	The United States could stop all of it.
	President Trump could stop these things overnight.
	All he would have to do is uh say, I'm not sending any more support or assistance to the Israelis until they come to terms with a solution in Gaza and uh agreed to no further fighting with Iran or anyone else in the region, but I don't see much evidence that such a thing could happen.
	I think Yeah, because Trump appears to be such a total stooge and tool of Bibi Nanyahu.
	I've said in the past that if you looked at the government today and assumed Net Yahoo's running our foreign policy and George Soros, our domestic, you're pretty close.
	That was certainly true in the Democrats.
	Today, Trump, of course, has tried to move against Soros agenda, Trannies, all the DVNC education in elementary schools and the like, securing the borders, doing something about the massive numbers, actually enforcing the law.
	But in terms of foreign policy, it's been Israel all the way, Joaquim.
	It's just outrageous.
	He totally bought and sold, you know.
	We know uh, you know, he ran with Jeffrey Epstein for all those years, like over a decade and a half.
	Um they got him, you know.
	They they've got him by the balls, basically, so he's gotta do what he's told.
	And that's exactly what he's done, even though he's his MO has been the flip-flop on every issue.
	Um, you know, and he's also backed up America up against the wall economically with this tariff regime.
	You know, I mean, it nothing has been working.
	Nothing.
	You know, yet this guy has the gall to try and lobby for the Pitt Nobel Peace Prize.
	You know, it's just unbelievable.
	It is.
	It's literally insane in the sense it's totally disjoint from reality.
	Appalling.
	So McGregor does the right thing, explains what's going on.
	Turns out that a little-known embassy aid actually hijacked U.S. policy, responsible state craft reports are following.
	David Milstein, top advisor to Ambassador Mike Huckabee, has stoked a climate up here at the State Department, current and former officials say in late spring of this year, American diplomats in Jerusalem drafted an urgent cable.
	The war in Gaza, coupled with Israel decision in March up, blocked all forms of aid from entering the strip and left the region on the brink of disaster.
	A famine was looming, and the U.S. wasn't doing anything about it.
	But that cable never got back to Washington.
	In fact, it's not clear whether it even reached the deaths of Mike Huckabee, U.S. ambassador to Israel in its place.
	David Milstein, a senior advisor to Aqabi, sent a cable that sounded like an advertisement for the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, according to two State Department official with knowledge of the incident.
	It sounded like a propaganda statement, one official told responsible state craft.
	as midstream aid groups condemned GHF for endangering Palestinian aid seekers.
	Milstein's report praised the organization for meeting a humanitarian need roughly two months after Milstein sent his cable.
	The world's leading hunger monitor declared a famine in Gaza for the first time.
	I think this is so telling, Joachim, about agents really representing Israel or affecting U.S. policy to the detriment where way back in 2008, in my very first political speech, during Ron Paul Freedom rally on Tax Day on the grass outside the Capitol.
	I explain why dual citizens should not be allowed to occupy policy shaping or decision making positions in the American government because you could not know that their loyalty to the other state in outweigh their loyalty to the United States.
	I can't think of a more perfect example thereof than this.
	Yeah, and Thomas Massey, the good representative from Kentucky, has even tried to introduce legislation to prohibit dual citizens from even being in the government.
	And the reality is there's been so many that have infiltrated our US occupied Zionist occupied government.
	So yeah, we we do not have a government that represents American people.
	We have a government exclusively representing Israel and the greater Israel project.
	And it's such a deceit and deception.
	You know, I resisted for so long, the idea that Donald Trump was a con man, That he was playing the American people.
	But if you contrast a platform on which he ran about ending these Stubat wars, which he promised to do virtually overnight and could have by simply cutting off American money and weapons and arms, he could have done it.
	Not only in Ukraine, he could have done it in Gaza, in Israel, but he didn't.
	And now he's got a proposal that's going to be a US enclave in Gaza for a Riviera on the Mediterranean.
	I mean, it is nauseating to even hear a president of the United States talk the way this guy talks.
	It's been all Israel first.
	America last.
	I'm sick of it, Joaquin.
	This guy does not deserve to hold that office.
	I say, let's get rid of him.
	Try it out with Vance.
	And if Vance doesn't work, get rid of Vance.
	This is unacceptable in my opinion.
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, it is unacceptable.
	And it's he knows that Americans are fed up.
	They know Israel is the enemy of the entire world, much less the enemy of America as well, because it is bringing America down.
	And more and more people around the world, but Americans, they used to be in support of the Israel call.
	Oh, Israel has the right to defend itself.
	You know, that's been the line forever.
	But now the American majority of a population is becoming extremely resentful because they realize their needs are not being met.
	Americans do not count, and Israel is the only thing that counts in our federal government, and Trump is their man.
	They got him completely blackmailed to do whatever he's told.
	And so, yeah, there's going to be, and they're doing this also so that there will be such a reaction amongst the population as they're having harder times feeding their family paying rent, and they're not able to survive.
	So they're going to be out in the streets.
	That's why they've militarized all the military into all the states to put them in place so that there will be emergency conditions of martial law in America on domestic soil.
	And that's when also the antifa and all that crowd is going to the leftist extremist that he's been talking about forever.
	Well, they're going to also be unleashed, too, to make sure that there is a civil war on domestic soil here.
	I'm terribly worried you got it exactly right, Joachim.
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