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The Raw Deal (29 September 2025) with co-host Joe Olson and special guest Keith Rodgers
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Please uh stand by while uh right here uh on Revolution Radio Studio B. We have uh much going on today, and I'm gonna share those with you right away,
including in relation to the Charlie Cook shooting fraud, which is a complete fabrication, and we have further confirmation today.
Uh here is uh first story and compare it confirmation of Vivian Lee's theory about how it was done.
Uh well we got here we have jumping over the table.
This is to uh Charlie puts it in his pocket, watch closely.
The one guy grabs the squib, gives it to the guy with the polo, he puts it in his pocket.
Now the other guy that I once said press the remote for the squib, takes the remote, puts it in the other guy's pocket, and he takes off.
So the first guy gets the squib that was on the neck.
Watch closely.
So boom.
There's a guy with the blue, puts it in his pocket.
Here's the guy at the remote, puts it in his pocket.
And scene.
I told you guys, the guy with the brown shirt when he pulled up his shirt, he was pressing the remote for the swib.
And there you have it.
Absolutely right.
Guy in the brown shirt.
When he bowled up his shirt, he was preparing for the squib.
Here we get further bizarre.
I went to still wants to cover what the whole Charlie Kirk saga, and this one takes the cake when it comes to this bizarre world, and what is put on television programming, which you see here is the aunt of these two children.
And her name is Tiffany Barker, and the two nieces right here.
You have Mia Grant and Ellie Steele, and the media constantly pushing the propaganda, putting children on the spotlight on the world stage when this is completely obviously unnecessary.
And these two look like something out of the shining.
Just again, a very bizarre world was presented on television programming.
Let's get right to it with this very strange interview conducted on ABC's Good Morning America.
We're joined now by Tiffany Walker and her nieces Al Steele and Mia Grant, who were all in the audience yesterday afternoon.
Thank you for joining us this morning.
I know it's been a difficult day for all of you right now.
And Tiffany, let me begin.
Oh, with you.
Just tell us what you remember about the scene yesterday.
There was one shot that rang out, and everybody instantly looked around and then fell to the ground.
People saw Charlie instantly shot in the next and point this out real quickly.
You see the audience, the whole scene in Utah.
And it's not the largest crowd in the world.
It's not a small crowd either.
But at the same time, you should be able to identify the individuals that claim that they were there.
They're there, they should be seen, because it's going to be noted that one of the girls state they They were 15 feet away from Charlie when this went down.
So if anybody could spot them in the front row, that's where they should be if they're only 15 feet away.
But I want to point that out, which is mentioned a bit later in this.
What's more important, however, is look at this.
ABC mistakenly ran rehearsal tape.
Because there's no one inside the tape.
Tent.
There's no Charlie Kirk.
There are none of his assistants, no one is there.
And yet you have the crowd rushing away.
They mucked up big time.
Joe, can you believe how stunning this is?
ABC didn't know what they were doing, and they ran the wrong tape.
Your thoughts.
Gee, I wonder, I wonder how that building seven fell 20 minutes after BBC said it, Bill.
You know, it's kind of that kind of uh instant news coverage.
Uh yeah.
The uh people's voice website had a video up last week that said there's a whistleblower in the FBI that said that they had given a standout order for anything involving UVU on uh a few minutes before uh the assassination.
And today there's an article at Veterans Today says FBI whistleblower stand on order given before this um Charlie Kirk assassination.
So that's why the local law enforcement didn't have an all points bulletin out for his car.
Uh they had uh some identification of his name.
Um the whole thing's just fishy as it can be.
Fishy as it could be.
It's blatantly fake.
How much more proof could we have?
Charlie wasn't shot.
Candace has a video showing no blood from behind.
We have other videos showing no blood from in front.
We have no blood in the tent.
We have no blood on the ground, we have no blood being taken off to the SUV.
His sneakers are gleaming white, not a speck of blood.
Here we have now further video showing they jumped over to grab the lavalier, which had the squib attached, and put it in their pocket to conceal it.
And we know, as Vivian Lee explained, they added the blood by CGI.
I'm I'm I'm very pleased to have Keith Rogers here too.
Keith, your thoughts about the latest on Charlie Kirk.
Keith, are you there?
Meanwhile, as you observed, yo, FBI agent, stand down order for Charlie Kirk.
Here we go.
Let's listen to this.
BI Insight has blown the whistle and confirmed what many suspected all along.
Local law enforcements were ordered to stand down moments before the Charlie Kirk assassination, handing the killers a clear puff to strike and escape.
This wasn't chaos, it was choreography.
A sets up years in the making.
Now the hard evidence is finally surfacing.
A cool sign, internal memos, intercepted communications, eyewitness accounts, piece by piece.
It's all proofs the stand down wasn't confusion, it was a command.
While law enforcement frozen orders from above, the suspects walks out untouched, strap in, because what we've uncovered doesn't just expose the cover up, it reveals a playbook.
The same stand downs, the same manufactured chaos.
And when you see episode October the seventh, the parallels are impossible to ignore.
This isn't coincidence, it's repetition, and the fallouts will be explosive.
Absolutely fascinating to set up.
Meanwhile, here we have another report.
The FBI's case is full of loopholes.
Farmer prosecutor says about Charlotte Kirk's murder on redacted.
Let's wake up part of this.
Well, when you listen to the press conference uh announcing charges against Tyler Robinson, particularly at the state level in Utah.
It sounds like an open and shut case, doesn't it?
Surveillance footage, text messages, parents that turned him in, an exit wound right out of the neck or shot in the neck, all from the front, all pretty straightforward.
Um DNA evidence right on the trigger of the gun.
They find the gun, they find showcasings with Antifa messages written on them.
So done.
You know, move along here, nothing to see.
The text messages seem like they're pretty darn damning, laying everything out exactly how he did it, his regrets about doing it, how he felt like he needed to do it, all of it.
So just move along, right?
Very complete story.
Yeah, it's very convenient.
Are you satisfied?
Are you not satisfied?
I don't know.
I'm not satisfied, but there's emerging video evidence and inconsistencies that paint a totally different picture here, raise questions.
You know, was this guy a Patsy?
That he had perhaps nothing to do with it at all.
For one thing, the FBI only released a video that shows the alleged shooter running, but the camera on the building would have shown him laying in a prone position firing the shot, as you can see here on your screen.
So we only get after this individual is running.
We don't get him laying in a prone position.
We certainly don't get him firing a gun, even though the camera was pointed in that position and would have acts uh absolutely covered the prone position of this shooter.
The FBI's own video they released on their YouTube channel doesn't show it, but it's alleged in the indictment.
They say it, and the Utah state uh prosecutors say it as well.
That they had arm, you know, elbow prints, they have knee prints.
He was laying the prints and fired this kill shot.
One shot, it's all it took.
He even saved the shell casing that was found later in the forest, because it's a bolt action rifle, so you don't pop it out, it would have stayed inside of the rifle.
Then they chose though to cut off the first few seconds of this video.
We'd love to see the actual footage of this show us him laying there.
The thing is, let me know.
Um, it's happening right at the exact same moment that Charlie Kirk is being shot when we see him running.
We know this because of the timestamp.
When you see, of course, the rooftop shot from inside the walkway in the cafe area of the campus.
We match that with the video, of course, from inside the university walkway, and you can see him already sprinting as people are ducking.
He's already in full sprint as people begin to duck.
So he's picks up the rifle and runs it just a full sprint.
And the people are just now reacting to this again.
Show us the footage.
The video of him jumping, because I also have questions about that.
When he jumps off, there is a lot of commotion already in the quad area because a shot's been fired and someone's been killed over dead.
Why are the people in the background walking so casually at a casual gate?
If just a corner away from them, people are screaming and running.
And those people are just walking casually.
Does that make sense to you?
There's a lot that doesn't make sense to me.
I mean, and what kind of gun did he throw the gun down?
Did it uh adjust the scope as he throws it off the roof there?
Was he carrying the gun at all?
It appears that he is.
If you look at the high def version of this, but interestingly, the FBI's own website um on the their own YouTube channel shows this.
After he shot and killed Charlie Kirk, he jumped off the roof and ran away.
He left a gun and ammunition in a wooded area near the university.
This is the YouTube video that the FBI published initially.
And I hadn't caught this before, but they're saying clearly in this video, he shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
He in this video is the one that we're after.
He jumped off and ran away.
He shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
Well, how do you know that at this point when you publish this video?
Um, how do you know that he's the one specifically that shot and killed Charlie Kirk?
Where in this video does it show it?
Please show it to us.
So not only that, but you know, notice in the footage they have that's supposed to be the Patsy, the shooter.
The lawn is clear.
There are no people there.
There should have been thousands of people everywhere.
I believe this wasn't even shot on the same day.
And of course, we got the problems of he's not carrying the rifle.
They claim he disassembled it, that he had half of it in his backpack and half in his trouser leg.
But when he jumps down 12 or 14 feet, he does an accordion effect.
If he had a steel barrel in his trousers, it would have punctured his intestine, maybe his heart, he'd be dead on the scene.
And then he's supposed to have changed his clothing and then changed his clothing back, assembled the weapon, which requires a special tool and a lot of torque.
This guy, I don't think was even strong enough to do it, and then reassembled it.
Joe, this is such a farce.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, and it turns out that the security company that was labeled as being his uh the T T P USA security company Schaefer has come out with a public statement that they have were not the um the security company, that it was integrity security solutions.
There's uh accusations that uh Charlie had become aware of embezzlement inside of his own company, in addition to having problems with the uh Zionist funding sources.
And so bottom line, it looks like they got a lot of little problems to stitch together.
But um turns out the two star witnesses, or two of the star witnesses in this case, uh Mrs. Robinson, his mom, and um the furry twigs, supposed to uh transtig friend have both fled to Mexico, and they couldn't have done that without U.S. government support.
And the father who said he turned him in, is now denying that he turned him in, but he's not gonna get back the million dollar reward for turning him in.
So the whole thing is just falling apart faster than they can put the pieces together.
This is far beyond the Zebruder film because uh there's gonna be available footage from hundreds of cell phones that were in that amphitheater that morning.
And so all the inconsistencies are gonna be too glaring for them to be able to hide much longer.
Keith, I'm glad to have you here.
We've had two earlier stories about Charlie Kirk that blow it apart and confirmed Vivian Lee's analysis.
One is we have them leaping across the table to grab that blabeliere mic and uh you know, take it out of possession.
Here it is, uh, taking the squib off of Charlie, puts it in his pocket, watch closely.
The one guy grabs the squib, gives it to the guy with the polo, he puts it in his pocket, and then another equally fascinating, or they're reporting on witnesses that are supposed to be in France from the event.
Sleep on your side.
Still lost to cover with the whole Charlie Kirk saga, and this one takes the cake.
This posol world and what is put on television programming, which you see here is the aunt of two children, and her name is Tiffany Barker, and the two nieces right here.
You have Mia Grant and Ellie Steele, and the media constantly pushing the propaganda putting children on the spotlight on the world stage when this is completely obviously unnecessary.
And these two look like something out of the shining, just again, a very bizarre world was presented on television programming.
Let's get right to it with this very strange interview conducted on the ABC's Good Morning America.
We're joined now by Tiffany Barker and her nieces Al Steele and Mia Grant, who were all in the audience yesterday afternoon.
Thank you for joining us uh this morning.
I know it's been a difficult day for all of you right now.
And Tiffany, let me begin with you.
Just tell us what you remember about the scene yesterday.
Terrific.
There was one shot that rang out, and everybody instantly looked around and then fell to the ground.
people saw Charlie instantly get shot in the neck.
You're going to rush in the way.
I'll just start real quickly.
You see the audience?
The whole scene?
You see the audience?
And it's not the largest crowd in the world.
It's not but look at this, Keith.
They played the long wrong video.
This is a rehearsal.
Look inside the tent.
No, Charlie, no aids, nobody in the tent at all.
What a blunder.
Keith, your thoughts.
Yeah, can you hear me now?
Okay.
Yes, yeah.
For some reason, this wasn't recognizing my audio.
Uh, James, nothing uh serious like that, but uh this Charlie Kirk's story doesn't mean nothing to me.
I'm sorry.
Okay, that's all right.
That's all right.
I I'm I'm kind of surprised by that because it's blown the whole Israeli mystique out of the water.
Everyone believes Israel did it.
Charlie was turning on Israel.
It's uh created a calamity for Israel, for Zionism, for admiration for Jews for the whole idea of a Judeo-Christian ethic.
It's huge, Keith.
Absolutely huge.
We've been talking about how an FBI agent remarks a stand down order for the Kirk of Anjo's commented on it.
And a former prosecutor says the FBI case is full of holes.
Here we have Jeff Berwick talking about the Charlie Kirk Psyop exposed.
Can you handle the truth?
Let's see what he has to say.
They all scales on the same snake.
They won't expose them.
Uh our original channel, of course, was deleted in 2020 as soon as I told everyone about the COVIDs and lethal injections.
And uh, but we started uh a new one uh I don't know, a year ago or so, and we put up videos and they take them down, and they actually banned us for the last three months, but actually our our unban came off again right as soon as this latest Psyop started with the Charlie Kirk stuff.
So that was a great timing for us, but they already deleted our last video.
Oh, hi Dollar Vigilante.
It looks like the CIA Mossad replaced Charlie Kirk with JD Vance and Ben Shapiro, right goes cancel culture, didn't follow community guidelines to help keep keep our community safe.
We have removed your your video from YouTube.
What we found, we think your content didn't follow our harassment policy.
You can see example at around 13232, although there could be other instances.
I went and looked at the video, and I was kind of I I was talking about how the government's trying to kill everyone.
I guess that's harassment now.
But interestingly is right after that happened, and they took that video down, this came out.
Google admits censorship under Biden promises to end bands of YouTube accounts of thousands of Americans censored censored for political speech.
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Anyway, let's get into there's so much, there's so much.
They're trying to kill us conspiracy theorists by overworking us to death because there's been so much for for years since the COVID.
There's been five years.
And I don't know if you notice, I haven't missed like a week because I got the Tesla machine.
I got like incredible energy.
As soon as we were back, I was like just totally fine, no jet lag, nothing.
But anyway, let's get into this.
So it's been about two weeks now since the uh Charlie Kirk Psyop.
And I can confidently say now that it 100% is a psychological operation.
Of course, at the very beginning, I didn't know exactly for sure because it just happened.
And in my second video, I was becoming very okay.
This is quite clearly a CIA Mossad operation.
And now I've had even more time to look at it, and I'm actually coming around to because a lot of people have been saying it's all fake.
Even Charlie Kirk, he's not dead.
Uh it was all staged.
And wouldn't it would it be any surprise whatsoever?
Mossad went on 60 minutes and said this is what they do.
We're the directors, we're the producers, we're the main actors.
The world is our stage.
And I said my last uh couple of videos, I hadn't seen uh enough evidence yet that it was completely staged, like a hundred percent everything, none of it was true, but now I've seen quite a bit, and I I'm definitely coming around to that idea.
Uh I wouldn't say I'm 100% convinced of it, uh, but there's lots of evidence now.
Now that you can see we were starting to dig up lots more video and see what actually happened, and you know, there's they've got like Hollywood people that have like the blood packs and everything, so that wouldn't be that surprising if they did that.
I also found it very interesting, because they still you can see it from numerous different angles.
He gets shot, you see this blood pouring out of his neck, but then afterwards, there's like no blood anywhere.
So there's so many anomalies with that.
He was shot in the neck, as we saw, and he fell backwards.
We would see the wound on his neck first, and then we would see his body jump, and possibly some of his clothing move.
But something's clearly underneath his shirt that is very clear to see That is popping up.
Watch again in his shirt as he falls over.
Okay, ready?
Move back.
Rewind.
Watch again.
Pump.
Opposite way.
Now forward.
Pump up.
Out of his actual shirt.
So there's clearly a mechanism in place.
This guy, that guy.
Compare their faces.
He won the six Emmy Awards.
Makeup artists and special effects.
This is an art decision created knack.
Here make a hole for the host.
This one here.
Or maybe this one here.
The camera looks different.
Look at the attachment.
Look at the reflection of the smartphone.
Looks like reload and action.
If the carotid interior are hit, you would lose red fluid the whole town, but not a single drop on the ground.
Only a small portion of red fluid on the table.
Visible.
But hypersonic body would pass through like butter.
Maybe that's why they want to get the camera attachment as fast as possible.
And then since my last video, Cash Patel, which I spell with a C, or you can call him Cash App Patel, who's uh another just total liar, total promoting the system, sort of a person.
Remember when he said he wanted to shut down the FBI.
Well, he came out and said uh after they found Charlie Kirk in 33 hours.
The suspect was taken into custody attention in local time in less than 36 hours.
33 to be precise.
He's starting to see all this yet.
And then he said that uh he'll see Charlie Kirk, not in heaven or not something like that, but in Valhalla.
These connections keep getting weirder and weirder.
So right at the end of this press conference where Cash Patel announces that they caught Charlie Kirk's killer, Tyler Robinson.
Cash Patel ends it with Charlie Kirk.
I'll see you in Valhalla.
Lastly to my friend Charlie Kirk.
Rest now, brother.
We have the watch, and I'll see you in Valhalla.
Now, what's interesting is that one of the pictures that they put out of Tyler Robinson shows Tyler Robinson in his bedroom next to his computer.
On the computer is a picture of an island.
That island is called Goat Island, and it's located in New Zealand.
It has a retreat called Valhalla.
Isn't that isn't this?
Isn't that weird?
This is weird.
So that was interesting.
So if you go look up Valhalla witness protection program, Valhalla Motion Pictures is developing a film titled Nameless, which is set in a top secret facility operated by the U.S. Marshall's Federal Witness Protection Program.
The program itself, known as WITSAC, is designed to protect threatened witnesses and their families during legal proceedings.
And if you go to the uh go ask AI, is Valhalla related?
Yes, Valhalla relates to the US Marshall's Service Witness Protection Program.
Valhalla is the place where the U.S. Marshals take place people into the witness will be right back freedom flips.com will be
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now we return you to your host Joe, what I love about it, the whole thing is such a joke, and it's a small enough event.
One target, one shot.
Everyone can wrap their mind around it.
Everyone still, if they don't now think Israel did it because they're realizing it was a fraud, still, the genie is out of the bottle.
It shattered all inhibitions about discussing Israel and its patterns of assassination, taking out the Hevsmullah leadership with those pager explosions, bombing cutter to take out Hamas leadership, bombing Iran to take out Iranian leadership, uh uh bombing cutter.
I mean, this is all outrageous.
They're doing it again and again, and of course they have a pattern of assassination.
That's one of their principal stock in trade, because Charlie was wandering off of the Zionist reservation.
It's totally plausible.
I myself believed originally that it had been a Mossad hit, but this is even more spectacular.
And the consequences politically for Israel have been devastating.
Your thoughts.
Joe, you're muted.
Joe, you you Keith, you said you didn't want to address you want to talk about the yeah, the only thing I was gonna say, James, is that anything we see happening right now, the empire is collapsing and they're frantic.
They'll do anything.
So whether it's to patriotism, remember the Pentagon is going to use Charlie Kirk as a poster child.
Uh it's good anything to advance U.S. domestic or foreign policy, and this is what we're at right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I agree, I agree.
But you know, use Charlie Kurt to recruit Americans to die in words for Israel.
That's a that's gonna be a tough sell.
Uh Keith, I don't think it's gonna work.
And they bride Hag embark because they thought he was a kind of a physical specimen that would inspire young people.
He's just covered with tattoos.
I think he's worthless.
Certainly an extremely poor choice for DOD secretary.
Joe, go right ahead.
Give me your thoughts.
Uh, yeah.
Well, first of all, there's no chain of custody on the rifle because it's World War I and it's just claimed to be his grandfather's.
Uh, there's not going to be a recovered bullet.
Uh, apparently there was no autopsy.
There's just a physician's uh statement of uh cause of death, but without an autopsy, you don't have anything.
There's reports that the body has actually been cremated, so there'll be no way of verifying any of that.
So there's uh the criminal case against uh Tyler is gonna be completely blown out of the tub.
So that that's a problem for him.
But this goes back to a fundamental problem of the FBI.
We've had for uh the last 25 years.
We had um on September 4th, 2001.
We had Mueller appointed.
He managed to poison everything that he was involved in for his term in office.
Then we had Comey, and he's just recently been indicted by a grand jury, and there's a lot of stuff that he's involved in prior to uh Trump taking office.
And then Trump appointed wonderful Christopher Ray, uh, who was uh inaugurated in August 2nd of 2017 and served until January 19, 2025.
And so he's the one that covered up the Seth Rich, the um Wiener, the Hillary, uh, all of the laptops, the Hunter laptop in the in the 2020 election.
He's and and had 274 FBI agents that were at the January 6th framing evidence.
So uh Christopher Ray is absolutely 100% criminal.
And what we have now is Kashmir Pastel, who's completely inept and and certainly corrupt.
So uh we're not gonna get any law enforcement that's gonna matter for anything on this particular case.
And of course, the whole thing was fraudulent, and as you were observing, they they actually cashed in the Utah FBI in advance, probably because it was a woman.
She wasn't gonna go along with the fraud.
But get this, Brian De Palma had a film in 1998, a character named Charlie Kirkman is assassinated by uh an assailant named Tyler on September 10th called Snake Eyes.
I mean, can you believe this?
Snake Eyes is a 1998 American Mystery Thriller film director and produced by Brian De Palma.
The film stars Nicholas Cage as a detective investigating a political assassination at a bocking match in Atlantic City, was a boarding role played by Gary Sanisi, Carla Gugino, John Hurd, Stan Shaw, Kevin Dunn, Joel Fabini, and Lewis Guerman.
De Palma also devised the story with David Keneb, who was a soul writer of the screenplay.
The musical score was composed by Ruchucci Canaboto.
On the here's the plot.
On the night of a tropical storm corrupt and boy and leading city police detective Rick Santoro attends a boxing match at the soon-to-close local arena between Heavyweight Chandley and Lincoln Tyler and Challenger, Jose Pacifico Ruiz.
He meets up with his best friend since childhood, U.S. Navy commander Kevin Don was working with the Department of Defense to escort defense secretary Charles Kirkland and arena director Gilbert Powell at the flight after a trip to Norfolk, Virginia.
As a first round begins, Kevin is distracted by an attractive redhead named Serena, who wears a ruby ring and leaves his seat, which is then taken by Julia Costello, a mystery woman with platinum blonde hair and a white satin suit.
When Ruth unexpectedly knocks out Tyler, gunshots ring out, mortally wounding Kirkland and grazing Julia, who loses her glasses and blonde wig, revealing her naturally dark hair.
Kevin kills a sniper and orders Irina to be locked down despite the lockdown.
Julia escapes into the casino, covers her wounds in visa cloth from her blouse and steals a black satin jacket to disguise herself.
It goes on.
But Joe, what are the odds?
It's even on September 10th.
The guy's name is Kirkland.
His assailant is Tyler.
I mean, give me a break.
Your thoughts.
Well, it's kind of that predictive programming, sort of like what Nutyahu did in 1989 when he issued a book where he had collated 40 different articles by Jewish authors that said that if America didn't confront international terrorism, that the terrorists were going to blow up the World Trade Center building.
Well, all of a sudden, FBI frames a guy in 1993, February of 1993, to plant a bomb that was supposed to be a fake bomb with a fake detonator that actually was a real bomb with a real detonator.
But the guy uh actually taped them.
Uh the FBI agents tried to frame him, and so they ended up getting the blind sheikh put in jail over that.
But then in 1996, uh Nadiyahu releases another book saying that both twin towers are going to be destroyed by terrorists if the United States didn't confront uh international um uh Islam.
And so that was pretty prophetic, and he's repeated it many times, and then once the buildings were leveled on 911, he said it's good for Israel because now America knows what we have to deal with every day.
Absolutely crazy.
Well, of course, he was look planting scenes for an event that he himself was plotting, namely to destroy the Twin Towers to justify American intervention in the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran.
Seven of the eight uh uh uh six of the seven have fallen.
The only one that remains is Iran, and now the guy who runs Syria is former IDF.
He's a Jewish Mossad agent.
This is so insulting.
Keith, your thoughts.
Yeah, well, you bring up some good points.
Remember, this Juliani comes to the UN and gives a speech.
I mean, for God's sakes, this is the guy that Donald Trump called handsome, since Donald Trump decriminalized homosexuality to get a married effort.
But anyway, uh, this is the guy that's killed Americans.
Think of all these Americans out fighting al-Qaeda, you know.
You said Juliani, you menahu, right, Keith.
You met Nett.
No, no, Giuliani from Syria came to the U.S. in on it.
I am so the like I say, the Kirk story is interesting, like that, but it I always say, okay, what's the diversion?
Well, one of them is Project 2025.
But uh the main issue here, though, is well, here we can do this, James.
He bragged about killing drug lords.
Well, the U.S. used the ICJ there to arrest him and put him in prison.
Yet Donald Trump and Hag said to those guys, they blow a boat out of the water down there in uh international waters outside Venezuela, and these guys walk free, in as much as what you see over in Israel, where the United States is behind an entire genocide.
And this, and this is on the top of Trump saying we got to stop the killing in Ukraine.
By the way, he's the same guy that warp speeded a hundreds of thousands of Americans to their early death, too.
Yes.
Yes, yes, of course.
Yes, of course.
Yes, of course.
Meanwhile, we have one uh a few more here about the Charlie Kirk of Antassination decoy.
This is a guy who stepped up and claimed that he was to look at his butt that he was shooter so they could have time to add the CGI blood and abuse C-Sand material.
What?
And there may be some images on the phone.
He's like, also, I've got CP on there.
Take a look.
Those agents saw it.
Several images on the phone of pre-pubescent girls scantily dressed.
my gosh George Zinn, a very interesting character on scene at the Charlie Kirk assassination, has now been charged in two cases.
One involving obstruction of justice for what happened on the scene, as you see, right outside where Charlie was killed.
But the next one is also about other evidence that was discovered on this dude's cell phone that leads to other felony charges for exploitation of a minor times four.
Now we've got the documents, the charging materials that we'll read through to see exactly what happened in these messages and ask ourselves whether this dude is ultimately an accessory after the fact.
Because after Charlie Kirk was killed, this guy was dropping to his knees, screaming on the shooter, making it difficult for the cops to react because they thought it was him.
It wasn't him.
What was he doing and why was he doing it?
Someone who committed a crime, he knew, and he assisted them, knowing that they committed a crime.
He may not have known their names per se, but he was intentionally had knowledge this person committed a crime, tried to help this person, avoid arrest and punishment, and is an accessory after the fact.
So we'll see if there is more than obstruction of justice or if the feds want to take this or whatever, but it's not just him, right?
We're asking about a bunch of other people who kept this dude out of the limelight for 33 hours.
But the Utah County Sheriff came out and they explained the following for us.
They said here is the latest.
Now, the arrest and the booking of George Zinn for obstruction of justice and possession of CSAM.
Right.
On 9 10 in Utah, Zinn was attending an event where a shooting occurred.
Shortly after that, while people were fleeing, Zinn was seen yelling, saying, I had shot Charlie Kirk.
Now the police took Zinn into custody, they transported him back.
He was not cooperative, and he did not want to speak with investigators at all.
He then began to have a medical issue, like heart attack, and was transported to a local hospital.
Now, while at the hospital, he did freely state, I'm not the shooter, but admitted he yelled to hinder law enforcement, right?
Yeah, not really just to hinder law enforcement, but to create a distraction so I could see GI in the butt and then release it.
We have various videos showing no blood in the immediacy.
It was only after they did the ad to the CGI.
Joe, this is just very, very bad.
We also have multiple reports about Erica Kirk unmasked as a web of Israeli ties reveal a murky past.
Stu Peters talking about Erica.
Let's pick up with Stu, who's always good.
We've talked about windage.
What about the lack of CCTV surveillance footage from the mini surveillance state that is Utah Valley University?
The lack of gunshot residue analysis, no blood droplets, no fingerprints, no footprints, no physical evidence at all whatsoever linking Tyler Robinson to the scene that day.
And then again, they showed that phony phone for the rushing away with a Tan and Zanta.
internet you're supposed to look the other direction so that ultimately you will just succumb to the truth Disregard the inconsistencies and the absurdities and the lies that have been told to you by Cash Patel and his FBI.
Tyler Robinson acted alone.
He was the lone gunman.
He acted on behalf of the radical left.
And he killed Charlie Kirk, upset about Charlie Kirk's anti-transgenderism rhetoric.
And if you have questions about exit wounds or blood splatter, if you have questions about pass-through shots.
Why?
We've already heard from the surgeon that worked on Charlie Kirk directly.
He violated every HIPAA law known to man, and he told the top Jew at TP USA Andrew Covet, the lead spokesperson for Turning Point, that Charlie Kirk possessed a frame of steel.
And that in his final moments he saved lives.
He saved people the inconvenience of having their wardrobe unnecessarily splattered with his blood.
Because he possessed the Superman-asque frame of steel.
Charlie Kirk was a man of steel.
A lot more questions than we have answers now, two weeks removed from the public assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, right?
And after a brief period of speculation regarding who would actually take over his organization in the wake of that death, we now know that his now widow, Erica Kirk, will be Turning Point's new CEO.
And boy, this woman has wasted no time at all, jumping to the forefront and in front of every camera here.
Since the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk's death, I think his body maybe had been called for a few hours.
And TP USA, seemingly under the direction of Erica Kirk, has been sending out constant fundraising emails.
Have you received them?
I've received them via text messages to members, to potential supporters, anyone that will open them up.
And it's hard to honestly say at this point, with the risk of sounding insensitive, that this woman isn't monetizing her husband's death.
Honestly, you really can't say that, actually, because that's exactly what she's doing.
She's taking up the mantle of her husband.
She's leading turning point forward out of the storm.
And now your average conservative would have you believe that this is just a great story of American resilience.
This is a shining example of a trad wife stepping up to honor her husband.
Well, we're not buying that because there's a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye.
And quickly, as things move, it's hard to believe that any of this has happened organically or in a vacuum.
Especially when we start to consider the background of both Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk and their respective family members.
Who are these people?
Where did they come from?
How do they so rapidly rise to prominence and political influence?
Who was funding them?
Who was propping them up?
And when you put your emotions aside and you look at these things objectively, their backgrounds begin to give us just a couple of clues.
It's weird enough that Charlie Kirk's father was a top architect on Trump Tower.
But that's nothing in comparison to the information that we're about to go over regarding Charlie's wife now widow Erica, who was closely connected to Donald Trump and other power brokers independent and long before meeting Charlie.
We've talked before about how Erica Kirk is an actress, a reality TV romance actress, to be exact.
And most of you probably already know that she was crowned Miss Arizona USA, a pageant that at the time was owned and operated by none other than Donald Trump.
Erica Kirk was actually invited to compete personally in these Miss USA pageants by Donald Trump himself.
She was recruited by Donald Trump, exactly how Trump used to recruit girls around Palm Beach County, Florida, along with Jeffrey Epstein.
She was employed by Donald Trump when she met Charlie Kirk on her pilgrimage to Israel.
And that's when she entered into, or at least made the introduction into a relationship with Charlie Kirk.
Years before that, what was Erica Kirk doing?
Well, she had founded an orphan ministry called Romanian Angels, which helped Western elites adopt, acquire Eastern European children.
And there's even more to discuss when it comes to Erica's father, who is descended from a line of elite bankers who has connections to the DoD and not just the Department of Defense, but to Israel.
Erica Kirk's dad was involved in the launch of Raytheon Israel LTD, a group that makes money by keeping the world in a constant state of war.
Just like they're doing right now in Israel.
Now, cue up this video.
This video right here gives you a pretty good rundown of exactly who Erica Kirk is.
You can kind of see for yourself why we should be asking a whole lot more questions.
Take a look.
Kirk has deep connections to Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and the state of Israel.
The supposed grieving wife and mother is going to be taking over turning for the USA, So here's some facts about her that I think the public has a right to know, and that nobody else is reporting on.
Around 2009 to 2010, even though Erica had never marked before or participated in the beauty pageant, she received an invitation in the mail to participate in the Miss USA beauty pageants, which were owned by Donald Trump.
In 2012, she won the Miss Arizona competition.
And at the same time, according to our website, she was also a casting director at the same time she was modeling for Trump.
In 2006, she started a ministry when she was just 17 years old.
This ministry was working with the U.S. military in Romania at the same time she claimed to be working as a casting director.
The area in Romania where Erica was operating her ministry out of had a ton of locals accusing these evangelical ministries of kidnapping children and trafficking them out of the country.
These children were being found in Israel, the UK, and undisclosed private islands.
The locals demanded that the authorities look into this.
And shocker, they never did.
But her ministry was kicked out of Romania.
In 2018, two years after Donald Trump started working with Charlie Kirk, Erica and Charlie were introduced to one another after one of their mutual friends suggested that Charlie should hire her to work for Turning Point.
So at Erica's job interview with Charlie, Erica allegedly said, You're not going to be my boss.
You're going to be my boyfriend.
So they began dating.
I think it's safe to assume that this mutual friend was Donald Trump, because Erica was already one of his employees.
So it would make sense for his team to encourage this.
Beauty pageants are a well-known gateway for human trafficking.
So with her being a casting director, her ministry working with the military in Romania and being asked to leave, along with her very strange behavior of capitalizing on the death of her husband.
I think this should be of immense concern to us all.
Random people do not get prompt.
She's got it absolutely right.
Stu Peters is all over this.
Absolutely sensational.
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Yes, we knew this was coming, was murdered.
Gun safety laws can protect us further.
This is so absurd.
Let me just make a couple comments and invite comments from Joe and Keith.
Those who support gun control are actually protecting criminals.
How can you defeat crime by taking guns away from law-abiding citizens?
By virtue of citizens possessing guns, they can stop criminals in their tracks, dead if necessary.
They constitute a whole level of law enforcement out there.
Criminals cannot know are or are not present that has a massive inhibiting effect.
Guns aren't going to be taken away from criminals by law.
They don't obey the law.
That's what makes them criminals.
The whole gun control agenda is frankly absurd and misconceived, and the Democrat promoting it or supporting crime.
Joe.
Yeah, well, yesterday, Trump pardoned a half dozen convicted fraudsters who had been involved in one point three billion dollars of fraud and been convicted for it.
And if you add the SEC criminal penalties to that, it was over $2 billion in total loss to the taxpayers for the crimes that these guys committed.
And then we have a this was a Rick Sanchez, who's a Cuban-born American who's living in Russia and does a great broadcast.
And he had a video that he put up this morning, a rogue general with Task Force Dragon named Chris Donahue.
General Chris Donahue is the one that authorized the use of attackums after uh Biden lost the election in November, and that's what prompted Russia to say, well, if you're gonna use those kind of weapons against us, we're gonna use some orchids against you, and that's when they fired the first two orensics into uh Ukraine, and that was in November 28, 2024.
So we had a uh autopinned president authorizing deep strikes, and now this just came out.
Uh Judge Napolitano was interviewing Alistair Crook, who's an ambassador this morning, and the title of their uh interview was Israel's losing US support.
And in it, he said that the reason that they're uh allowing uh JSAMs to be our tomahawk missiles to be delivered to the uh European Union so that the European Union can deliver them to Zelensky, and Zelensky can use them for deep strikes into Russia,
is that they want to keep Russia tied up with Ukraine so that Russia can't come in and assist Iran, and that's what they're planning on doing is going after Iran and Venezuela, which are two of the largest oil deposits on the whole planet, and that's the only thing that's gonna be able to keep the US petrol dollar going is being able to have control of the two largest reserves in the world, and that's what they the thinking is that they can get away with this.
Absolutely absurd.
Absolutely absurd indeed.
Keith, you're welcome to join in, and we're gonna turn to your special area interest, this uh Project 2025.
Comments right now before the break.
Yeah, I was gonna comment if hold up, Keith.
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We do have a short video clip about it.
Let me pull it up.
Well, that's just on the yeah, that's the freedom of speech, which is part of this uh mandate project 2025 is controlling all information.
Well, you go for it.
Keith, you just lay out everything you want us to understand.
Okay, first I wanted to comment on that last uh Kirk thing.
Sure.
I I'm a deer, I'm a deer hunter.
Uh I usually use a 2250, but I have used an Ot 6, a seven millimeter and uh 300 Savage.
However, at uh I usually uh sighted my rifle in at about 400 yards.
I live here in Montana, so there's a lot of fields and stuff, but I also do uh uh still hunting.
But anyway, if you do a neck shot on someone like a deer, it drops instantly.
Yet in one of those videos, Charlie Kirk is seen laying there on the ground and his arm is moving a little bit.
He would have no ambulatory function whatsoever in a neck shot.
So the man of steel thing doesn't work.
The other thing I was gonna comment on is uh his alleged wife there.
Uh I'll tell you what, if if I've been on the fire department for years here, uh not recently, but uh uh any side of blood, uh trauma or knowing that your loved one is dying or dead.
You don't just spring up the next morning and and give a talk there about my beloved husband and stuff like that.
That's just not how things go.
And especially uh, I can detail that from one of my Iranian friends, it's on Telegram there.
He's a communist, but uh he uh his job was uh shooting U.S. contractors, and he did a lot of headshots, and he told me they drop.
Uh I won't give you a details about other contractors that were off, but that's that's how war is like you know.
You live in a wizard.
A lot a lot of this is just it's like say it's a big distraction is something else going on in the background, and I know what it is.
It's it's part of this mandate project 2025.
Yeah, yeah.
Tell us about Project 2025, because I agree.
Not enough people know about it.
And I'm just I just put up that image of the crowd rushing away from the empty tent where no one's rehearsal footage showing they had hundreds of crisis actors in the crowds.
Keith, this stuff is just absurd beyond belief, and they're making a lot of glitches, blowing their cover.
Tell us about Project 2025, Kiva.
We're all ears.
All right.
Well, it starts with Donald Trump.
Uh, there was just a video on YouTube there that the author uh or or one of the authors, there's so many of them, uh, said that Donald Trump hasn't even read uh mandate Project 2025.
Now this leads to something else.
It's to where Senator Black and one other guy.
Anyway, I forget I I hate politicians, so I try not to follow him.
But anyway, uh they had commented that all these sync groups are actually who uh you can call them secret societies if you want, like JFK.
But uh a lot of it's like this uh Project 2025 is is out of the Brookings Institute mainly.
However, they deal with colleges and all the stuff, but they're ma it's a mass conservative group.
And you know, there's nothing wrong with conservatives.
But these are people that are steering the world.
And one of the notorious ones is that uh Peter Navarro, and he's so tied to banking, all this stuff like that, and you can uh wiki his uh thing here, but uh he goes on a uh this article here, of course it's all about uh China too, you know.
But uh he was born in 49, American economist who has been in the senior counselor for trade and manufacturing to U.S. President Donald Trump.
Okay, so now he's also the guy that pushed Donald Trump into all these tariffs.
He was also uh the one that uh through that alleged pandemic uh got Trump to uh open things up.
Well, that was just part of the deal because corporations were suffering.
Remember the two weeks to flatten the curve.
That was so that all that pre-ordered plastic and floor decals of six feet and stuff could have been uh delivered.
That had to be printed ahead of time, and those plastics had to be made for these store barriers.
I mean, people, you know, plus the mask, you know.
Uh but anyway, uh Navarro is the one that uh uh tried to overturn the 2020 elections.
I mean, he's so tied into the Justice Department, uh, all this stuff, you know.
Uh but his biggest thing is on the tariffs, which are killing Americans.
Uh when they talk about 100% tariffs on China, okay.
Well, it's it's gonna cost you 100%.
You pay the taxes, and I see videos on YouTube already of people ordering things from another country, like say China or something like that, and a couple days later they get a tax bill from the United States government.
They're you know the consumer is paying the tech the tax.
Well, that leads us back to Project uh 2025, because if you go down on the business section there, it says that all these U I don't even want to call it nationalism or what, but but all these U.S. corporations are actually uh all uh subsidized by the United States government.
And then in turn they get the trillions of dollars of tax breaks.
And you always hear this about these business corporate taxes, uh the current rate's gonna stay in place or something like that, you know.
Uh but this is how they're managing everything.
But like I say, if if you get into that mandate project 2025, uh it covers every aspect of reforming the entire United States government.
It's it's it when I read it, it's it's like uh a corporate tyranny.
And that's what it is.
Uh there's another firm called IISS.
It's a conglomerate of all these huge uh things like McDonald's and stuff like that.
They're the main backers of the uh uh war in uh Russia, uh, you know, over Ukraine there, uh, because they have all these systematic goals.
Now I couldn't find that one video for you, but it was uh labeled something.
Um I forget what I saved it as, but anyway, it's labeled uh something like uh Ukraine 2030 or something like that.
But anyway, uh it shows a modernized Ukraine.
Uh when you walk up to your door, you don't need keys, it it recognizes you by your uh retinal uh eyes and stuff like that.
You know, uh there's the palm scanners everywhere like that.
But I think this is where all this billions of billions of dollars is going.
Trump said 350 billion, the EU's put out 100 billion, and now we find out that Israel's been pumping a lot of money up there too, because it's actually Israel's venture, because uh Zelensky wants uh Ukraine to be the big Israel, you know.
And of course, that leaked report that the Jews, in fact, were Khazars with reverse immigration plans and migration plans back to Ukraine.
This is the old City of the Hub of the Pale of Settlement.
Uh they want their land back.
And I've always thought this was interesting because if you overlay a map of NATO uh with what the old Khazarian Empire is, it's pretty damn close, I'll tell you, uh, so far.
But remember, Ukraine doesn't have legal borders, neither does Israel.
So anyway, uh there's another thing that always reminds me of uh on the news, you'll see something like Russia strikes a hospital and kills uh not a hospital, but uh hit hits a civilian area, and a 12-year-old girl is killed, and you're supposed to sit to go.
Oh my!
Well, 2,000-pound bombs are being sent to Israel to blow up hospitals, you know, weddings, uh, whatever like that, you know.
It just I can't believe the amount of uh Hasbara or propaganda, what do you want to call it, that are being used right now to incite people uh uh to the coming war with Iran, full-on war with Russia, or China, because the empire isn't gonna go down uh uh uh quietly, you know.
But one thing about this China thing that really bothers me because this whole China thing started before Bill Clinton.
It started with uh Ronald Reagan.
He's the one that cemented this stuff to where Bill Clinton just simply signed it off.
It's because, as Senator Black said, all these governments are all run by these big huge stink groups.
That's why Trump is, oh did you know that Israel gonna do this?
You know, no, they don't know nothing like that, you know.
That's why when Pelosi was asked about an 8,000-page bill that they had 40 hours to read, and Pelosi says, well, we'll just have to pass it to see what's in it.
It's because it's written by all these think groups, lawyers and stuff, lawyers, of course, to protect the politicians and the corporations, you know.
But this is what's going on.
So like say the further you get down on that mandate project 25, I mean, it's uh it's on healthcare thing.
And one thing that I I thought was interesting on the healthcare on pages 400 to 402, is they realized that the measures taken during the alleged COVID, I'm putting alleged in there, but the COVID pandemic uh were really drastic, and we've lost the trust of the American people to use health care services.
Well, no duh, you know.
Remember how many hospitals were paid massive commissions to make sure their constituents of patients was all vaccinated and stuff like that.
They got a bonus and they got all of them, you know.
But uh and this again, uh the Charlie Kirk story is no different than the ban on TikTok, which uh there was an article called The Road to the Hague is paved uh with Israel's calls for genocide.
And this is because all those IDF soldiers were posting videos of them actually murdering children, running them over with a tank and then getting out and picking up the little teddy bear thing they were holding, sticking on the uh the front of the tank.
Like uh you know, these guys have no moral conscience whatsoever, you know.
Uh but anyway, back to this uh mandate project 2025.
Yeah, we might intervene.
Common cause, which of course is totally left wing, has put out a piece about condemning Project 2025 as a blueprint for dismantling Democracy on day one of a Trump presidency.
Now they include the following criminalizing voters, cracking down on simple voting mistakes, using so-called election crime branch, which had never been done by any president from any political party.
That's of course to keep from having phony ballots mailed in, phony voters coming, stuffing ballots.
All that is good stuff, not bad.
Here's another installing partisan loyalists, immediately firing thousand unqualified civil servants at every level of government, replacing them with ideologues, willing to push a political agenda.
Well, what he's talking about there is a senior executive service.
We got this massive number.
It could be as high as 500,000 who run in the bureaucracy who are making all kinds of decisions they should not be making, and we're very instrumental in thwarting Trump first time around.
I'm all in favor of getting rid of them, gotten them that's draining the swamp.
Third, stripping away our rights, deploying the National Guard at crackdown on protests, robbing us of her representation by rigging the U.S. census, and dramatically increasing the president power to act without congressional oversight.
Now, that one is more dubious.
His deployment of the National Guard to Washington, D.C., Does appear to have had the fact of dramatically reducing crime.
And I won't be surprised if it happens elsewhere.
Now, are those among the aspects of Project 2025 that bother you, or is it other issues?
No, no, what bothers me, Jim, is you can see they're already in action.
They're putting in their loyalists to the Trump administration like that.
Trump doesn't know who he's appointing.
But anyway, they need these.
This is like say it's a conservative group that are all pushing their ideas.
And of course, they attack the trans stuff like that.
Well, well, who's behind the trans agenda?
See, but the the way the article starts out, it's it's to it's like this anti-Marxist.
And yet most everyone that's behind this, the billionaires and stuff like that, are basically Marxists.
They're communist Jews.
Keep going.
Oh, so anyway.
Who are you?
Who are you a blind or the communist Jews?
I mean, is that included AOC, uh, Chuck Schumer, uh, I mean uh Adam Schiff, give us some thoughts.
Well, AOC is a socialist, but she'll go along with anything.
Remember, she's the one that stood on the street corner there in New York with uh Chuck Schumer telling people that if they'd lost a loved one during COVID to go down to your medical examiner and have them change this uh certificate of death to COVID, and FEMA will give you 8500.
I have the video.
Uh but see, they were pushing agenda.
Now we find out later uh through the Senate and Congress uh testimony now uh that had this anything to do with China, it would have been all over the paper, but it wasn't.
It was internal.
It was at N NIH uh forwarded email to Fauci says, here's how here's how we create the bioweapon.
We have the video from Moderna says we received the uh genome markup of the alleged virus, and we started to make a vaccine without ever touching the virus.
Well, how do you culture something like that?
What was on that Fauci email uh from the NIH was the creation of the AIDS, HIV.
And then we have uh we have uh the uh Rand Paul, who for four years demanded uh uh uh the origins of COVID, and Blinken hands him two stacks of papers, almost 500 some pages, totally fully redact.
Had it been China, that wouldn't have been redacted.
We have Senator Ron Johnson now who says that they're destroying the evidence.
See, this was uh one of the biggest inside jobs.
So they say Charlie Kirk's not their first or the last, you know.
But uh, this is all to push this uh this is all to push this agenda now, which is highly conservative, and you can go down and you can look at Which branch fields, everything like that, which people specialize, whether it's uh women's rights, any other DEIs in there too.
But anyway, uh business, finance.
Let me bring in Joe to comment on what you've been saying so far about Project 2025.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, well, 2025 is one of the stepping stones for uh uh the WEF and UN Project 2030, and that's where you will own nothing and and be happy, and that's where you'll live in a 15-minute city, they'll have complete control of all energy because so they're gonna use the fraud of global warming and the fraud of fossil fuels that we're gonna run out anyway, and so that's part of their draconian.
And then the next thing is they're gonna put in a uh social uh I mean a central bank digital currency where they can use your social credit score to completely steal any assets you have and to meter out any that you that you still have uh some control over because they're gonna limit your ability to do absolutely anything.
So that's pretty nefarious.
But in the meantime, we've got the immediate problem of um 2025.
And I encourage people to see a video that was done by Truth Stream Media called NASA's Future Wars 2025.
This was a conference, a four-hour-long conference with a hundred uh PowerPoint slides explaining that if we didn't have the public didn't have trauma-based mind control, that it would be impossible to have continuation of government.
So this was presented to a bunch of government employees in July of 2001.
Surprise, two months later, we get nine 911, and you have trauma-based mind control for the whole entire population of the United States.
But more concerning than that was the June 2001 tabletop.
And this is the first one that I've been able to document on pandemics, but this was Rockefeller and John Hopkins did a um day-long seminar called Lock Step about how they were going to be able to control the public with future uh pandemics,
and that was repeated again with the um the 2000 201 Operation or Expo 2001 that was done in nine in 20 in November of 2019, where they said that the pandemic was definitely going to be coming,
and we need to have lockdowns, and we need to have uh social distancing, and uh we needed to have uh mandatory vaccines, all of the stuff that happened, but there was a half dozen other um uh tabletops where they did the more of this stuff.
I don't have that list in front of me right now, but you can just use two bookends in 2001 in June, John Hopkins and and Rockefeller Institute were saying we're gonna have future pandemic, and then in 2001, they had the Gates-funded uh tabletop where they were explaining all the news, how they're gonna monitor the news and control the news, and and that they were gonna force uh vaccinations and all that stuff.
So that's that's the trauma-based mind control.
And it looks like that we're gonna end up in a war with uh Iran or Russia, one of the two or China, that's gonna end up being a nuclear holocaust, and these people are gonna have their trauma-based mind control where they can run to their deep underground military bases, the dumbs, and control the rest of the planet from what's left from their uh safe havens.
Absolutely insane.
It is Joel, you uh you heard their uh we're over in Europe and um or UK and uh France right now, I think it is, that they're doing these uh mass casual things where hospitals are supposed to uh prepare for 50,000 patients and stuff.
Oh, yeah, they've got uh requests for proposals for refrigerated uh morgues to park it.
Yeah, I sent out that video.
It's uh they'd really love us, or something like that.
I could play it here if I knew how to do it.
But anyway, uh it's really funny there because it uh it's in the 1980s, and they expect a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union at the time, not Russia today, that there'd be over 60 million casualties, and they go on to talk about how uh health care won't be nothing because cities will be targeted, and that's where your centralized uh doctors are and stuff like that.
What will be done is there'll be mass graves dug with bulldozers.
No one will be marked as far as who died where.
The survivors will get morphine and then buried and stuff like that.
You know, but this is so casual.
But the problem is those when you I think I looked it up, it was 175 million people at the time in uh America, and uh maybe a little bit lower.
But anyway, uh, and then compare that with uh 2025 with 342 million or something like that, you know, that uh if they're willing to sacrifice 67 million then, what would be the equivalent to today's numbers of Americans that would be buried with bulldozers and stuff, just like they did over in Iraq along the highway of death.
Yes.
Staggering numbers.
Staggering.
Yeah.
He continued.
They called it a Turkey shoot.
I'm wanting to.
Uh surrendered.
Go ahead.
On Project 2025.
Those voting reforms are all uh the draining in the deep state, that's positive.
I'm not yet quite focused on why it is such a threat.
And I I'm sure you're right.
I just don't get it yet.
And I know Joe is on your side.
I want to hear more, Keith.
What's what's going on with 2025?
Okay, so if uh if in reading what uh Kevin D. Roberts' PhD is, a lot of this article all stems from what they call cultural Marxism.
And yet, if you look at it, the way they're realigning the entire government, it's communist collectivism.
And I and this is just like you mentioned earlier with the WEF.
Remember that speaker that says I'm done with it.
He says this is communist collectivism.
But Keith, but Keith.
Yes, we've seen a lot of manifestations of cultural Marxism, taking down the statues that were part of the reconciliation between North and South, trying to erase our history, our national identity, promoting transgenderism, putting men in women's sports.
Those are all bad.
Those are all part of a cultural Marxist revolution, but Trump has been working against it.
He's been defeating it.
So I I'm I'm at a bit of a loss.
Go right ahead.
Tell us more.
All right.
Well, my friend uh Michael, I sent him four articles there from uh USAID website, which is still operating, although it's under a different name now.
But it was talking about the massive amounts of millions of dollars that are being spent and sent to areas like the Congo and stuff.
It's under HIV and male circumcision.
Uh, and then underneath it, it talks about the funding of the LGBT stuff.
So it's like they how do you say that?
If you've got a country that is kind of moralist, wouldn't you be teaching morals in schools instead of letting kids just run off by their own and stuff like that and let the internet teach them what they want to learn?
You know, you know, these these events in Africa with these African nations are all over natural resources, vast deposits of lithium and the like.
I mean, it's got nothing to do with these social issues whatsoever.
That's purely cover story.
I'm sure you are aware of that.
But it's just classic American intervention under a cloak of claims to bring democracy or freedom in the office that is the case.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was watching uh a documentary is a billion dollars in huge t-shirts that are being sent to Africa.
And they used t-shirts or all the LGBT, the American flag, stuff like that.
See, this is how they slowly invade a country to bring in their so-called Western values, as they call it.
Like uh the Iranians are supposed to be mad because uh American men can marry freely and stuff, and they can't.
I mean, but you know, it's it's it's the same thing when Hillary was saying with the Taliban to remove their Hajibs or Burkas, whatever like that, you know.
We need to bring democracy for women.
Uh Khan over there in Pakistan, same thing when Leslie Stahl was interviewing him.
She was talking about all the women that are getting raped up there in Pakistan.
He says, Well, yeah, you bring in these Western values, the women uh drop their hijibs or whatever like that, start wearing skirts and stuff like that, and these horny Muslim men attack them and kill them or whatever like that, you know.
And Leslie Stahl got so mad at that that he he defined that so easy that maybe it's because of the the culture that's being destroyed.
Cultural Marxism.
You know, they're taking away everything we have, and they're gonna bring in a brand new government, just like the WEF, you know, which I think Trump is running from aside, but yet he doesn't know everything that's going on.
Like a lot of these guys, it's like a cell.
Uh one person does one job, another person does another job, but they never see the finished product.
Take a deep breath, Keith.
We'll be right back after this break with Keith Rogers and Joe Olson.
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Keith, I think I'm not alone in what would appreciate a delineation of what you take to be the specific features and objectives of Project 2025, so we have a more clear concept in our mind of what this is all about.
Okay.
To sum it up, it would be the mega make America great again.
However, I always say, at what cost?
Well, the United States has sanctions on one-third of the planet right now, starving what 3.0 billion people, you know.
Uh, its own tariffs uh are shutting down American farms.
They can't sell their soybeans, but you never hear about soybeans being uh on sale at your locals, you know.
Uh the corporations are hoarding everything.
But the most important thing is I want I want to read this one paragraph and and let me know if you notice anything what's going on today, okay.
Navarro's views on trade are significantly outside the mainstream of economic thought and are widely considered fringe by other economists.
A strong proponent of reducing U.S. trade deficits.
Navarro is well known for his hard-line views on China, describing the country as an existential threat to the United States.
Uh, he has accused China of unfair trade practices and currency manipulation.
Forget JP Morgan, right?
Um, and repeating the global and repatriating the global supply chains.
That's important when you think of what Trump's doing right now.
He's also uh stated a vocal appointment of the free trade, he's a vocal opponent of the free trade agreement.
Navarro has written his books, including the coming uh China Wars and uh Death by China.
Anyway, so what it is is it's it's summed up here, but Navarro quoted a fictional economist named Ron Tara, you know.
But anyway, but the the point is to make America great again.
I actually call it make America Grasslands again, because that's actually what's happening there.
Uh you got some mega fool idiot woman that sits there bragging on YouTube about how she got the Hyundai plant, a 7.4 billion dollar plant shutdown because of immigrant workers.
You've got South Korea that's pissed off about that.
However, there's something more important on that too, because of this coming war on China, is that South Korea and Japan and also Canada was recently in the news here about building U.S. subs.
Those are all in violation of the Jones Act.
You can't haul military uh uh weapons or vehicles or ships or any of that stuff like that in foreign countries.
That's what the Jones Act was created for.
But there's been a lot of recent edits on that uh Jones Act page.
But uh it's because China builds so many uh shipping containers a year and other boats, their Navy, and America hasn't got nothing.
Why?
Because America deindustrialized, and this all is all about trade wars.
It's not China attacking America.
Uh, he's pissed off because China can offer products that are lower price.
Well, isn't that what most American consumers would buy?
Well, yeah, but you're screwing American corporations because they charge more made in America, you know.
But anyway, the whole thing is exactly what we're seeing played out now.
That you attack these countries like Germany, and then you bring German businesses over here to America.
That's how Trump is retooling America, and it'll be the same in other countries, you know.
Uh, they're gonna pull iPhone back and let me intervene.
Go ahead.
I hundred percent agree.
Bill Clinton mucked America when he promoted NAFTA.
Ross Pro warned us that giant sucking sound was all those jobs going south.
That was a major step in annihilating manufacturing and industrial base of the U.S. Trans Pacific Partnership would have gone further.
That I take it was nullifying.
Trump has wanted to use the tariffs to rebuild America to have these companies come back to America and rebuild our manufacturing and industrial base.
I understand that the tariffs have had mixed effect, that they've had some benefits of the kind Trump wanted, but others that are not so desirable.
Joe, what is your thought about this?
Well, I had I was forced to take an economics course as part of my engineering degree, and uh I resisted it, but after the course was over, I realized I did learn a few things, and then I started studying a lot about history, and I studied uh Karl Marx and the Bolsheviks and in uh Russia and the fascists in Italy and the Nazis in uh Germany,
and I realized that there is absolutely no difference between communism, fascism, uh Marxism, Nazism, uh progressivism, socialism, uh they're all rebranded feudalism.
You only have two systems of economic structure.
Either you have um free speech, property rights, and rule by informed consent, or you do not.
And all of the rest of those you do not, they're all shades of the exact same thing.
But what they did is that the Fabian um economics people decided that they would pit the two against each other, and so they classified fascism and Nazism as being right wing and communism and socialism,
socialism being the polite form and progressivism being the polite forms uh as left wing, and they maintained that dichotomy by having the two polls defined by uh Henry Luce, who owned Time magazine defining the the left perimeter,
and then uh William Buckley with the new republic defining the right wing, and you couldn't speak of anything outside of those two spectrums, even though there's no difference between those different economic systems.
It doesn't matter whether the the government is uh industry is owned by the government, or if the industry's just highly regulated by the government.
The effect is absolutely the same.
So that's what we're being led into is this false dichotomy and this false paradigm.
And that's why people don't understand all the things that are screwed up, because we've allowed monopolists to create the system that benefits them the most, and they and it's a one-way ratchet system where they never lose and we never win.
That's exactly uh you remember uh when you hear this uh uh that Navarro, by the way, it says he was appointed for Trump.
He didn't say appointed by Trump.
Uh, this is this entire think tanks that control everything.
As RFK Jr. said the other day that within four years we'll have wearables and stuff.
These are the ones that are going to tell us, you know, uh you need to come in and get your daily shot of Thorzine or something like that, you know.
But it is, it's corporate fascism.
And that's why I mentioned that IISS uh firm there, because if you look at the foreign and some odd uh supporters and stuff, it's all these huge industries, and they're the ones that are backing the Ukraine uh system here.
And of course, when you hear about Ukraine, it's all about mineral rights or uh, you know, everything's always about oil, Venezuela, Iran, as you mentioned earlier, Joe, Iraq.
If you look at the uh proposed Middle Eastern pipelines, uh they go from Iran through Iraq into Syria down through Israel and up to Greece.
Uh well, let's blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline then.
Yeah.
And as far as the informed consent, there's a great uh interview with uh Patrick Byrne on vote rigging, and this is uh him and Steve Gardner.
It's about a 40-minute long video.
I'm gonna put the link to that in the show notes so that you can see it.
But basically, he's been able to prove everything that I've known about since 2015 when I met Dr. Laura Presley, who had her uh um council seat in Austin stolen by the voting machines.
And the voting machines are all owned by one parent company, which is Dominion, and they own Smartmatic, Heart Intercivic, Electronic Systems, and Software, D Bold, Sequoia, and they own Optech, which is the tabulating software.
And this was perfected down in Venezuela.
And Jimmy Carter went down there and said, These are the most honest fair elections in the whole world.
And now they've been stealing elections worldwide for the last 20 years using this same electronic voting bullshit.
And that was also brought out in a great video that was produced in November of 2016 called Blackboxvoting.org.
It's uh the actual that's the website, but the actual thing is called fractional uh magic.
And how they they take every vote in, they fractionalize it as a thousandth of a vote, then they give the machine what they want in the way of outcome, the percentage, and then the machine figures out how to split those thousandths of a votes and then round them off so that you don't end up with a fraction of a vote showing up on your vote toll.
But that's how they steal it, and that's how they make those giant leaps overnight when they're tabulating stuff, or it's done in the processing.
But Patrick Burns 40 minute long uh video with um Steve Garner, and he said all of this material has now been given to uh Tulsi Gabbert, and she's doing an enormous amount of uh research to make sure that all of these people end up being prosecuted.
But every one of the people that's been involved in the Justice Department, which is our rotten Billy Barr and before him sessions and before him um geez, I have it written down.
I don't remember right this minute.
Because I'm like you actually.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know, uh, I think it's called Zot, Z O T. Uh, that's what Venezuela had switched to on their voting machines.
It was uh they tried to link it to the uh military over in China, which it may well been, but the CIA couldn't uh uh hack that election.
That's why Maduro won.
And I sent out an email here a little bit ago about Venezuela about uh how Venezuela under Chavez was paying off Argentina's national debt.
Well, look at Argentina today.
Now Americans are paying off the debt, and they were doing that through the proceeds of the sales of their oils.
Uh but it's like Colonel John Stockwell, the CIA said uh they aren't killing Soviets down there in Central and South America, they're killing Catholics.
So, yeah, but that goes to show you how deceptive all these practices are because of Juan Guaido.
I suppose he's still sitting on the unemployment line somewhere or being groomed for another position uh in some Latin American country of the 20 times 22 uh non-aligned members, but no one understands history and revolutions of why uh there was the entire Latin American revolution.
I forget the guy's name there, but his posters on every wall on all these videos of like dangerous roads in Argentina or Peru or some all these households have the same thing.
These guys will never forget the revolution, and that's what got freedom from uh the US and Spain, you know.
But that's what all these wars are about.
France was Indochina up through Japan, it was all to the Dutch.
You know, it's it's a U.S. empire.
And empires are they need to constantly expand, you know.
But uh anyway, uh the other thing was uh oh, I forget what oh, it was on uh if you look up UNESCO with Italian's with human rights, you'll see the United States just pulled out of there.
One of the main highlighted article uh things in that is informed consent.
Well, if you pull out of UNESCO and you're not obliged to do this informed consent, and then you just seal a $500 AI uh uh deal with a kosher company that is doing vaccines in 48 hours, and where's your informed consent?
Is this going to be like the pharmacies where someone says, Can I see the the you know the patient insert on that?
And they unroll it, and it says left totally blank.
Oh, it says intentionally left blank.
Uh does that tell you exactly it's it's a repeat of the United States is actually going to run the world economic forum.
And and this is why they want to be the industrial powerhouse to control the whole world.
They want to tell tell you who can be a uh government in Iran, Lebanon, uh Russia, like you know, uh such and such has to go.
Remember uh that article from LA Times.
It said the United States is no stranger to you know election interference, and then it says it's overthrown 80 governments up until the year 2000.
Look what they've done here recently, as James had noticed earlier there with the seven countries in five years.
You know, they want to put their crunies in there to control all things, just like the Iranian uh Anglo-Iranian pipeline that when Iran finally nationalized its oil, oh, suddenly you have an upheel over there.
This all deals with the seven sisters, you know, the oil companies, you know.
But they're the ones that control the world.
They're the ones that uh they're they're the ones that pay the uh the people to go out there and say stop oil.
I watched a video of a guy saying, well, who's paying you like that?
And they looked it up.
It's it was one of the oil companies.
I think it was BP at the time.
Why would BP want to shut down its own oil production?
See, it's because it's a resource war, and they're doing that to drive the market.
Remember during the first Gulf uh second Gulf War, the gas was a dollar sixty-five a gallon.
The uh cost of a barrel of oil back there was a lot higher.
Why are we paying three, four dollars a gallon over here now when it should only be a dollar sixty-five?
They're sucking the wealth out of this country.
Yeah, it's basically the same colonial um uh operating system that they that the British and and French and uh Spanish had perfected for centuries before that.
Um yeah.
Uh, you want to see uh war as a racket by um Major General Smedley Butler's created banana republics, and that's where banana republics came from because United Fruit wanted us to go in and make sure that no peasant owned any land and nobody was going to be able to compete against their banana monopoly.
That was before oil became such an uh international problem because the United States was completely independent of oil production up until the end of World War II.
So, yeah, that's that's the system that we've been forced to invort.
Uh, I recommend a site called Tales of the American Empire, and they've got about 120 videos the last time I checked, they're all about 15 minutes long with archival uh footage and and references, well referenced uh printed material to explain exactly all of the shit stuff that we've done.
They've got um two dozen just on Russia, uh uh the Anglo-American war uh on Russia, and it goes back uh several hundred years and it shows all of the different aggravations that have been done by the British and and quote then following American Empire against Russia.
Pretty incredible.
And if you go to Wiki call it revolutions, uh hundreds of revolutions that have been funded by the West to overthrow governments uh worldwide.
You know, that's funny you say that because down in Bolivia, the president that was what was re-elected or elected there, uh the first thing he did when he got in power was he gave the land back to the indigenous people.
Boy, that pissed people off.
Uh, remember the U.S. incursion coup down into Guatemala.
The first thing it is they gave the land back to the people.
Same thing in Nicaragua.
You know, this is like I say, as you mentioned, United Fruit.
Remember John Perkins, the economic hitman.
Uh, this is all well explained out, and this is all being done in our names uh around the globe.
Like I say, when uh when you've got a politician or politicians, stooges that sit there, we need to do this to flatten the curve, or we need to lock down 300 and some million Americans.
I when the the minute I hear that, it's like Trump and I mentioned earlier there about uh uh stop the killing there.
If this was all about saving lives, there wouldn't be any war in Ukraine.
There wouldn't be one with Russia, there wouldn't be anything going on in the Middle East of everyone would be vaccinated.
We'd all be living happily ever after, you know.
Uh no one cares about human life.
That's the problem.
That's one thing that's always bothered me.
There was 500 billionaires made during the alleged uh COVID pandemic.
Do you realize that that's people capitalizing off the deaths of others?
And that could be through policy and or treatment or what like that, you know, that there was those people out there that did that.
It's the same thing with that uh when Trump went in 2017.
I looked up who his investments were.
One was Gilead Sciences, which is what that Rendissevere came from, and the other is real ID 2020.
And this uh then was targeting immigrants, but you can always bet, as I have that quip on my webpage or my email that says uh what you allow your country to do to others, it'll eventually do to you.
So the UN's biosecurity thing of where everyone's got to be screwed, glued, and tattooed with every bio thing that they can do on your fingerprints, eye retinal like that, all your papers and stuff.
This is bringing us in to where that same thing from the BIS when she said vaccine policy is COVID policy, and it was to bring everyone into this new digital currency.
I've got the video where she says it, you know.
Uh they want total control of every aspect of our life.
You can't just pay uh say little girl to babysit your kids like that because that's a transaction and they want to be able to tax on that, you know.
This this whole system.
I can see why people love socialism because when you work your tax for your work, the government is actually taxing you to work.
Well, no wonder people stay home.
But you know, it's but it all centers on this project 2025 because again, I have nothing, no problem with the conservative uh stuff because it sounds great.
You know, bring back like a little morality and stuff to this country.
But again, we're back at the same question again.
At what cost?
Is it dependent upon the United States to re reclaim all of its resources is to wage endless wars on the world?
No.
Uh China back in the 70s had uh 10% graduation on students in college.
Today it's over 70.
Americans are sitting here playing video games with butt plugs that vibrate.
I'm not kidding.
Uh and uh they're endless uh VR games or you know, uh they're not doing anything, but they're soaked into the AI economy or type stuff there.
They're being led astray as sheep.
They they stare at the black mirror all day long, like uh, you know, or not they're playing video games where you can adjust the blood spatter.
I asked one of my friends the other day, I said they got any drones in those new games.
Oh, yeah, they got brand new ones just coming out.
See, the training the future soldier.
It's like Colonel Stockwell once said, it's the concept.
When you look around, you start seeing what movies are coming out, or you can say that on YouTube too, uh, where suddenly all of a sudden your YouTube channel is full of military equipment and stuff.
They're prepping you.
He says, when you can go down to store and buy children's diapers in Camo, you know you're in a military uh militarized society, and that's where we're at today.
It's mega.
Make America great again, but at what cost?
How many wars is this country going to wage, or pump those trillions of dollars into building the actual economy we used to have before they industrial deindustrialized it?
Why don't those trillions of dollars go into actually making auto plants and stuff without robots to employ Americans?
Everything is being AI'd and and robotted to where no one's gonna have a job, and then you get that Harari out there talking about calling us useless humans.
We need to eat bugs.
Uh depopulation.
Can't people see what's going on?
I think everyone sees a lot of this, Keith, actually.
And remember when Trump campaigned the way he built a makeup movement, he was gonna end the stupid wars.
He was gonna end them outright.
The fact when he got into office, he's done the opposite, doesn't gain say the fact that he promised to end the wars.
He was gonna secure our borders, he was gonna reverse all the transgender nonsense.
He's done some of the above.
I think that foreign policy issues have been particularly catastrophic.
And that's why I'm so enamored of this Charlie Kirk of him.
It it turns out to blow up in Israel's face.
Everyone is criticizing Israel.
There's no restraint about it anymore, and it is permanent.
The genius out of the bottle, the tube base is out of the tube.
People see Zionism in Israel for what it is a ghastly cancer on the face of Earth.
Joe, your thoughts.
Yeah, well, guess what?
Uh Royal's uh son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and I call Cushy, uh, bought 666 uh Fifth Avenue back in 2007, right before the Uh real estate crash in New York at the time of 2008, he was upside down 500 million dollars.
He was still upside down 500 million in 2016.
But when Trump left office, he magically had a net worth of $2 billion.
He had access to all the FBI files on Saudi Arabia, and he was able to pick which Saudi prince he wanted to give the info the blackmail information on.
They had a big party, had hundreds of um Saudi princes invited, and then they managed to jail and steal the assets and actually probably execute uh multiple ones that were involved in that to put MBS in charge.
And now Kushner's daddy, who is a convicted felon, had uh 15 counts of felony charges against him, was convicted on three of those by Chris Christie.
Uh Trump pardoned him, and now he's the ambassador to France.
So tell me again how how the Zionists rule our world.
It's absolutely crazy.
Joe, have you seen uh Ryan Dawson's uh video on uh the Port Angeles Mafia?
No tell us.
Uh no.
Tell us yeah, it it I it outlines everything you just said there about the cushners and stuff.
Uh it's a mafia over there at the Port Angeles, and this leads you right back to 9-11 with the Port Angeles.
Yep.
Yeah, 100%.
They they pulled off 911.
You should read the book um by Christopher Boleyn, Solving 911.
I saw him in person at the Austin Truth Fest on September 11th, uh, 2016, which is the 50th anniversary.
Uh the site was less than 10 minutes away from InfoWars World Headquarters.
They didn't do any pre uh programming to advertise the event.
They didn't send a reporter to it, and they didn't do an afterwards report on it.
So uh basically Alex Jones had already gotten his marching orders, and it wasn't to include anything that involved the financial arrangements, which was all the short sales and the insurance fraud and the uh Jewish judges and lawyers that were responsible for uh preventing anything from being discovered on the what happened on 911.
So, yeah, absolutely incredible the extent that the Jews have have complete control of our current environment.
I want to thank you both, Keith.
Excellent to have you here to talk about this subject.
You believe has been long underplayed of great importance.
Uh you've raised a lot of important issues, Joe.
Always a pleasure to have you here, my friend.
I'm glad to have a final statement from you each.
Let's begin with Keith.
Yeah, I would just say, as far as Mandate Project 2025, just remember, this is not written by the government, it's written for the government.
So this is all these billionaires globally that want to steer the economies and stuff to the way they want it to go.
They'll create the wars or whatever crisis is needed like that, but they're going to secure the planet under total corporate fascism.
And so what you see, all this worries in China and stuff like that about facial scans and stuff, it's coming here.
They control it all.
Joe, your final thoughts.
Yeah, well, I had signed up for a conference with uh Judge Napolitano and uh Colonel Douglas McGregor in Dallas, and they canceled on the on the day that uh Kirk was killed because they said it was just too dangerous to have public meetings, and then they said they would reschedule it, and so I'd already paid for my ticket, and uh they just sent me a notice saying that they've rescheduled it for the same date.
They haven't given me the venue location, but hopefully by next Monday I'll be able to tell you what it's like to shake hands with Judge.
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