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The Raw Deal (17 September 2025) "Fearsome Threesome" edition with Russ Winter and Joachim Hagopian
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Well, we all need a little help these days, no doubt.
This is Jim Platzer, your host on the Raw Deal right here on Revolution Radio Studio B the 17th day of September 2025 for a fearsome threesome edition with Ross Winter and Joaquin Agopian.
An extraordinarily interesting interview took place where a Max Blumenthal was on with Alex Jones.
And while Alex interrupted him repeatedly, I think Alex has an ego problem with anyone else consuming more time than he is on his own show.
What what what Max had to say in a in a nine-minute segment was extraordinary.
And I want to get everyone's opinion about it.
First time I'm revealing this, other than it, we just updated our article at the gray zone.
Her name is Natasha Hausdorff, and we were told this by an attendee of the meeting, and I haven't been able to reach out to her.
So you know, if this turns out to be false, we'll correct it.
But I trust the source because Natasha, Natasha Hausdorff.
Let's pull that up.
Go ahead.
And she was taking what Bill, what Bill Ackman was doing, apparently he was trying to maintain his composure, but she was screaming at him.
And what I heard from people in the room is that the whole meeting was a disaster.
It was convened mainly to talk about the danger of Zoran Mamdani as New York mayor.
And then after the meeting, or towards the end of this, it was kind of like a influencer summit, and they were taken to fancy restaurants in the Hamptons.
I backed that up with photos that they stupidly posted on social media.
Everyone at the meeting was offered a free trip to Israel, and most of them took it.
Uh Newsmax fronted for the trip.
Newsmax has become a vehicle for Israeli influence.
Its CEO Chris Ruddy just met with Netanyahu in Israel.
And one of the influencers there, Xavier de Rousseau from Prager U, whose CEO is a veteran of Israel's cyber spying division, Unit 8200, went to one of these starvation sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation starvation sites, paid for by the Israeli government, and delivered a video mocking the starvation in Gaza and claiming that Hamas leaders were eating all the ramen and therefore they were on Ozempic.
This is what they're being paid to do.
And then there's just a bigger issue here.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's her.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
And what what I did was I showed the source the picture and said, was this her?
and they immediately said yes.
*outro music*
All right.
Yeah, well, thanks for that.
That was my, I think Wikipedia bio.
Uh a bunch of outlets I'm no longer allowed to write for.
Um but uh thanks for hosting this important conversation.
I mean, this is about much more than Charlie Kirk.
What this is about what we've done at the gray zone is lifting the mask since Charlie Kirk's horrific death on a major foreign influence operation in the United States targeting the conservative movement.
It's also targeted the left as well, run by Benjamin Netanyahu, who is currently presiding over a Seven Front War, a genocide in Gaza, and a global assassination campaign that reaches into the a U.S. ally now of Qatar, which hosts one of the largest US military bases in the region.
And what we have learned is not that Israel was responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination.
We have no evidence of that.
So let's just take that off the table.
Maybe someone will find something.
It's very understandable why the public has a lack of trust in the official story, as you just came out in your intro and explained.
But what happened is Benjamin Netanyahu, while Charlie Kirk's body was still warm, came out with videos and tweets trying to claim Charlie Kirk's legacy because Charlie Kirk was in many ways built up by pro-Netanyahu pro-Israel donors.
And claimed that Charlie Kirk was the greatest friend of Israel and that the radical left and Muslims were responsible for his death before a suspect was even caught.
So Netanyahu was trying to milk this for Israel's benefit.
And people close to Charlie Kirk, including a longtime friend with access to the Trump administration, started talking to me through various contacts I had in Washington and in the media and telling me this is not true.
Charlie Kirk was undergoing a transformation.
He was actually under pressure from Netanyahu because of what we saw at the TPUSA student action summit in July, where he was platforming figures who were saying Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad asset that uh Israel was actually committing genocide in Gaza.
Comic Dave Smith said that.
Tucker Carlson mocking the Zionist billionaire Bill Ackman.
And he was under enormous pressure, and they were trying to shut him down, and he was defying them.
He actually privately despised Benjamin Netanyahu.
I learned from two sources, one inside the administration that he was actually lobbying against the U.S. striking Iran in June, and that he was almost alone.
By the way, you think that first uh the vice president yesterday hosting Charlie's show, posthumously, said that.
Well, there you go.
I mean, there you go.
I mean, a lot of what I reported is reflected in public statements, and we're learning more.
And so, subsequent to my first story on December 12th about Charlie Kirk's transformation and the pressure he was under, which left him very angry, as we saw from his public appearances, and according to friends, frightened.
I learned from multiple sources that there is this meeting in the Hamptons that Bill Ackman, who is a billionaire hedge funder, who is one of the uh biggest kind of Israeli assets in this, like most influential Israeli power brokers.
I mean, he's an American, but he's operating on behalf of Israeli interests, convened this summit in the Hamptons with conservative influencers, and Charlie Kirk was there, and Bill Ackman started uh confronting Charlie Kirk about what he was doing at TPUSA, that it wasn't pro-Israel enough.
And I just by the way, there's a lot of clips of Kirk, not naming names, but saying I've got the Israel lobby and Israel calling me and donors calling me, and you know, saying I'm anti-Semitic and I'm bad.
Uh, if I even question what's going on, I think that's wrong.
So it's not just Candace Owens who was close friends with her and I trust her.
It's not just rumors.
It's not just a big donor saying he was scared of Israel killing him.
That Harrison met with it.
Ron Paul's 90th birthday.
Um it was Charlie himself said this.
He said he was concerned.
And that was on with Megan Kelly, I think the day after the Hamptons meeting that you're talking about happened.
This was on, I believe, August 4th or 5th, and on August 6th, he went on Megan Kelly and complained about stakeholders who were pro-Israel treating him horribly.
And he said, I have uh I have less ability to criticize Israel than an Israeli does.
So clearly it was getting to him, and he was referring to this meeting.
I just learned from someone who was in the room who was at the meeting that in addition to Bill Ackman, a British pro-Israel lawyer named Natasha Hausdorff, was screaming at Charlie Kirk, like absolutely screaming at him.
She is from an Israel lobby group in the UK that is an like an extreme.
Let me stop you again.
You told us this an hour before the show, and I dropped the ball.
So let's say your name again.
You said we were going to break exclusive news.
You're breaking it now.
We have this big Israeli lobbyist screaming at Carly Kirk.
Say your name again so we can pull her up.
This is this is the exclusive information.
Yes, this is.
This is the first time I'm revealing this, other than it we just updated our article at the gray zone.
Her name is Natasha Hausdorff, and we were told this by an attendee of the meeting, and I haven't been able to reach out to her.
So, you know, if this turns out to be false, we'll correct it.
But I trust the source because Natasha Hausdorff, Natasha Hausdorff, let's pull that up.
Go ahead.
H-A-U-S-S-D-O-R-F.
And she was taking what Bill, what Bill Ackman was doing, apparently he was trying to maintain his composure, but she was screaming at him.
And what I heard from people in the room is that the whole meeting was a disaster.
It was convened mainly to talk about the danger of Zoran Mamdani as New York mayor.
And then after the meeting, or towards the end of this, it was kind of like an influencer summit, and they were taken to fancy restaurants in the Hamptons.
I backed that up with photos that they stupidly posted on social media.
Everyone at the meeting was offered a free trip to Israel, and most of them took it.
Newsmax fronted for the trip.
Newsmax has become a vehicle for Israeli influence.
Its CEO Chris Ruddy just met with Netanyahu in Israel.
And one of the influencers there, Xavier De Rousseau from Prager U, whose CEO is a veteran of Israel's cyber spying division, Unit 8200, went to one of these starvation sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation starvation sites, paid for by the Israeli government and delivered a video mocking starvation in Gaza and claiming that Hamas leaders were eating all the ramen and therefore they were on Ozempic.
This is what they're being paid to do.
And then there's just a bigger issue here.
I thought this movement was about America first that Charlie Kirk was heading.
Just interrupt.
This is Natasha right here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've heard all of her.
So yeah, thank you.
And what I did was I showed the source the picture and said, was this her?
And they immediately said yes.
Every guest we've interviewed in studio, I've given our ultra methylene Bluetooth, and they've all looked uh there's a lot to be said about this.
Uh uh let's start with you, Russia.
Uh your thoughts right off the bat.
Well, uh Charlie Kirk does not control the MAGA youth.
He that's his constituents and he speaks to them, he helped organize them, but they have changed.
They have completely shifted gears.
We've talked we've talked about this numerous times on our show.
The polls reflect it.
They're at they've turned anti-Israel.
And so if uh Charlie Kirk's gonna remain in his position, he's got a shift to reflect the sentiments of his constituents, which is what he did.
And apparently the Israelis didn't like that.
But you know, Charlie Kirk can't control that.
He's got no control over that.
He's he can only kind of follow the sentiment and follow the trend.
So that we got to establish that first of all first off.
The MAGA movement is no longer pro-Israel at all.
In fact, they're anti-Israel.
Big big problem.
Which is why they put Ben Shapiro in charge when he's uh Israeli uh Zionist zealot.
But I think we're also looking at motives why Israel would have had a strong reason to take him out, even though I believe the event was staged.
Most of the world believes Israel took him out.
And while Max is saying there's no evidence of that, there's massive circumstantial motive means opportunity.
And it's not just this Ackman meeting.
There's a whole bunch of stuff going on.
There was this handler that came hours before the assassination who talked to him and said it was complete.
He was combative.
So they kept sending the emissaries out to kind of feel uh uh Kirk out, and what they weren't getting a good response.
He was just kind of freezing on him for good reason because he was going to lose his movement.
The movement has shifted.
He can't control that.
So yeah, they can stick, they can stick Ben Shapiro in there to try to take over the movement, but Ben Shapiro's gonna fail because the whole attitude towards Israel is collapsed.
Right, right, right.
No possible way Shapiro couldn't succeed, it's only exposing him as a shell.
Well, Keem, I wanted your thoughts, but I found this conversation fascinating.
Yours.
Yeah, circumstantial evidence piled up on top of each other over and over and over again.
This is a story of power and who runs the world.
And obviously, Israel seems to have the most power.
After all, Trump's in their back pocket as a total Zionist Jew himself.
Um, And so yeah, I see this whole thing as they were afraid that the youth of America was not going to be able to be followers of Israel.
I mean, you know, it's two years now of daily slaughter of the Palestinians.
It has an effect on an actual human being and not some kind of robot like so many people, I think are.
We've been documenting it.
We've been money in an hour shows.
They'll sell their soul, you know.
But people with a conscience that have a moral compass and know right from wrong, see the blood shed every day, the children, and it has an effect on a human being to want to stop it.
And so, yes, I think we're we're seeing a human being in this guy Kirk that responded to you know the audiences that he had for the last few years.
And he, as a human being, finally decided, well, I know the donors are coming in from Israel and the Jews, you know, the rich ones, and I'm, you know, but he he took the high road, and you know, I I pray to God the guy's still alive, and we can we'll be talking about that more.
Uh, but you know, it just goes to show that if you take the high road, you are at risk of losing your life in this world that we're living in.
Because, you know, the power rules and power has no conscience whatsoever.
I think high road, high moral ground equals sudden death.
I mean, virtually, you know, I think they were plotting to assassinate him, and I believe that's why he he faked his death to evade it.
BB had offered him 150 million dollars.
He would have tried to bribe him, so it's silver or lead.
We have a report about it too here, if I can pull it up.
And this InfoWars thing, by the way, had another dimension to it, because uh uh Alex was talking about reports that they discovered surveillance devices on uh on uh the Secret Service V Hack Halls, and that Trump is actually worried that he himself might be subject to an assassination attempt.
I don't think that it is really uh implausible at all.
I think that they're actually going to uh take him out if they have the chance about it.
Here's Nick Fuente is talking about Charlie being bribed with 150 mil by BB.
Let me get this.
Yeah.
And the Kirk.
Charlie Kirk was offered an effusion of 150 million dollars by Israel.
Okay, that would double Israel's budget, or excuse me, turning point USA's budget.
Turning point USA has an annual budget of 140 million dollars.
Wow.
Wow.
Turning point 150 million dollars for one purpose and one purpose only to shill for Israel harder.
Turning point USA is already pro-Israel, they're not anti-Israel, they've never been anti-Israel.
Charlie Kirk has in the past criticized B.B. Netanyahu.
He has criticized secular left-wing Jewry in America, he has criticized a war with Iran, the famine in Gaza.
He has never opposed Israel in itself.
He has never explicitly opposed Israel.
Israel offered him 150 million dollars to be more pro-Israel than they already were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.
And Charlie Kirk refused the money.
by the way.
I've heard that from four people.
Four people that I trust that are in the know.
So this is coming from Candace Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk.
This is coming from Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source.
And I have heard from a handful of people, independently of those sources, that this offer was real.
And that Kirk turned down the money.
After Charlie Kirk turned down the money, Netanyahu asked if he would come visit Jerusalem and give him the re-education tour.
The one that Elon Musk took, the one that our speaker of the house took.
Anyone that's ever criticized Israel has been subjected to.
He refused that as well.
They offered to bribe him.
They tried to re-educate him.
He refused both offers.
Yeah, so how many options are left?
Ross, I love your reaction.
Give us give us more of your thoughts, my friend.
Okay.
Now I've I've heard the arguments of both sides, hoax or real assassination.
They all have validity.
I listened to I listened to your show the other day on the 15th.
And it could, you know, all the things that you guys talk about could just as easily be applied to either theory.
But I'm going to call the assassination theory the uh severance package theory.
You know, where they go to J to uh Kirk and say you're out, you're no longer going to be running the show or bringing in Shapiro or whoever.
But we're gonna give you a sevens package and we're gonna fake this event.
That's one plausible theory.
Personally, I don't think the Israelis and the Jews operate that way anymore.
I think they're much more ruthless than that.
And the second one was just to it was just to get rid of him, assassinate him.
And that's a very very clean in this situation because he's gone, he can't talk anymore.
You know, maybe they paid his wife off, I don't know, or maybe his maybe his wife is just a lot of cognitive dissonance about what transpired.
So that's the way I see it.
That's kind of why I'm on the fence on on what happened.
But more and more I'm leaning towards the assassination theory because I think they just wanted to get rid of him.
They didn't want to pay him off, have him disappear, go live the rest of his life with a handshake.
I mean, what is this like college basketball, college football, college basketball coaches?
You know, it doesn't exactly work that way.
Russ, there's more and more evidence of support that it was a stage event.
He had this blood pack on his back, he had a little hose there by his neck, it was totally prodigy.
They dissembled the site.
If it had been real murder, you leave the body in place, it's a crime scene, you call the cops.
It wasn't real.
They hustled him off to the SUV, not a drop of blood anywhere.
Maybe they you know, maybe they know maybe they wanted to make it kind of look that way, like the ring thing.
Russ, I don't get it.
Honest God, the evidence is so overwhelming, just unbelievable.
And then there's the plane, you know, and they turned off the transponder.
And that that was like minutes after this whole event happened there.
And you know, it's 12 minutes away.
The airport's 12 minutes away.
You think that's the slide?
That's flying him out.
Is that flying Charlie out?
Is that what that is?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they may have, you know, they may have just paid him off, giving him a seventh package.
It's not impossible.
And stage the world.
Look, look, look, his wife, Erica, gets the award for worst crisis actress ever.
Her statement, you know, so shortly after was bereft of any genuine grief.
And then because she was counseled, she wasn't showing enough emotion.
They had her a casket where they had a mannequin, and she's funny over rubber hands.
Russ, rubber hands.
It's embarrassingly bad.
It kind of did look that way.
But on the other hand, Erica's an evangelical weirdo, you know, and there's sometimes these people just on another planet.
Well, she was laughing, you know, off and on throughout her whole little uh stage performance, and then she even kept saying repeatedly, and he's alive, he's alive still, you know.
She said that several times.
So, yeah.
Alive in heaven, right?
Yeah, he's alive in spirit.
No, he's alive in the physical body form.
Absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
Well, what about the what about what about this frigging uh Patsy?
I mean, come on, that thing's they they're trying, you know, they tried to make it look like trannies are involved and leftists are involved, you know, started that rhetoric up.
Which they can play on either side, either the real assassination or the hoax they could play that could play that.
So that's what really stands out to me.
The suspect is ludicrous, he didn't know anything about firearms.
The idea disassembled the web and then had it in his trouser like it's absurd.
If he jumped out with a barrel in his trousers, they could have punctured it.
Impossible.
It was ridiculous, right?
Yeah, Joaquin, go, go, go.
Joaquin.
Joaquin froze up just at the moment.
He was like the whole story about this kid, it's just ridiculous.
We had the uh attorney, the county attorney on television yesterday, going over in minute detail all the evidence they had, the impression where he'd laid on the ground, they had the gun, it had a DNA on it.
Then he goes on to say we're giving a fair trial when he's tainted the whole jury tool.
No one could listen to this and not believe the guy was guilty of sin, but it was all bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Yeah, right from the very beginning with the governor, that Governor Spencer Cox is right away, like he just had the whole that was really suspicious.
But that doesn't necessarily necessarily point to a hoax, it could still point to an assassination.
Both, you know, both sides, both sides of the argument.
I love you, buddy, but man, you're blowing me away.
Joaquin, go by, go by.
Well, and how about Cash Patel emphasizing 33, like the 33 degree Mason, you know, the Masonic number.
33 hours.
We did it.
33.
And and FBI had nothing to do with this guy ending up uh, you know, in custody.
FBI was completely out of the loop as far as him ending up in custody.
Um you know, but he's up front taking all the credit, you know.
Cash Patel, he's a huge disappointment.
And he he's playing right along.
He's he's dirty, too.
Superficial and shallow as they come.
He's just a front man.
I can't believe he was ever even selected Joaquin.
He is pathetic, and apparently even lied about his credentials and where he graduated and earned his degree.
The guy's a phony from the beginning.
Yeah, and I guess he he what two days or something, he was on the hot seat in the with the Senate committee.
Uh, and uh got into a few barbs with uh some of the Democrat senators.
Um you know, Schiff's a terrible guy from California.
Oh, yeah.
But they they got into it uh big time.
It was uh cash patel is performing so poorly that I think they're just gonna throw him under the bus, they're gonna get rid of him.
Well, well, the senator, one of the senators, I think it was uh the guy from uh New Jersey.
Um anyway, he he was saying, you're not gonna last.
Trump's gonna get rid of you, you know.
That's right.
Let me say uh uh uh Ross.
I think when all the truth comes out that Charlie was forced to stage his own assassination to avoid being assassinated, and everyone believes Israel actually did it.
He's gonna emerge a hero because he he was trying to keep himself, his family alive and and and you know, preserve intact.
He had a call.
They may have made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
I I admit that, but on the other hand, I don't think the Israelis are nice people, you know.
I I think they're just as soon they were just as soon as fighting realizing well, they know they didn't do it, they may try to track it now and kill him after all, everyone thinks he's already dead.
We'll be right back with Russ Winter, Joaquin and Gopian.
Fearsome threesome here again.
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Well, before we turn to other ramifications, and I think they're all seriously adverse for Israel.
And is leading to a tremendous awakening about its interference in American politics and its control over Congress.
Joaquin as a new piece on the case for Charlie Kirk's fake death to avoid death by Israel's hellfire.
I'll just read the opening paragraph and turn it over to Joaquin.
In recent days, psychopath war criminal BB the butcher network is growing more nervous, knowing the entire world is turning against him and his state of Israel for murdering hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.
Just this last week alone.
That yeah attacked six nations within 72 hours, as much as guaranteeing that a wider Middle East war breaks out with the U.S. dragged in.
With Israel's most sawed the assassination kingpin expert by far, racking up the most constantly taking out targeted adversaries, 800 hops from 2008 to 2800.
My God, I mean, that's 80 a year.
And also with what the most again is, well, this may be yet another hit by Israel over the last five years alone.
A Jewish state accounts for 80% of the estimated thousand total cases of assassination world.
That's my argument right there.
That's my whole point.
They just assassinate people like crazy.
Well, yeah.
And now in the aftermath, that is all led Charlie Kirk shooting that, yeah, it would be nobody scrutinized.
To ward off this accusations, even four days after that dirty deed in Utah, and Netanyahu keep posting these smarmy adoration messages on X. Charlie Kirk was a true friend of Israel.
Rest in peace.
But of course, he wants to take advantage of the grief, the politics here to try to make it look as though this should all yield greater sympathy and some part for Israel, which is absurd, but it's what he's trying to pull off.
Your thoughts.
Well, all you have to do is ask the fundamental question.
He was definitely worth more dead to Israel and Trump than he was alive to both of them.
So I think that pretty much answers it right there.
And with the track record historically, that Israel just wipes out everybody.
That's Mossad operation.
They're basically a kill, uh a kill squad.
They got them all over the world, you know, almost every continent, actually.
Uh so yeah, we're finding out the truth about Israel, like, I mean, a lot of us have known, you know, for a long, long time, but the extent of the evil that they've been committing for so long, now the whole world is finally waking up.
So this is a great thing, actually, because you know, this whole plan, this was a plan basically to use the AI.
This is where where it's really going, and what we're really up against beyond the details of this particular case.
Trump is married in a fascist way with the technocratic uh technologies, basically, to spy on us and to create lists and pre-crime lists where, you know, they and then Palantir, of course, has that software.
Uh, they have a lavender uh, you know, technology where they actually pinpoint IDs based on facial recognition and all of this, and that's how they've been able to assassinate all the people they're doing for the last few years.
Well, so the combination is Trump is moving.
Well, we're already in martial law.
He's you know, deploying military, U.S. military now, and in almost half the United States.
Uh, we're moving toward martial law, emergency conditions, and he gets to use the Palantir technology to create lists of all the dissidents, anybody that's basically, you know, against Israel's genocide.
Yeah, they're on the list, you know.
They even created an anti-Semitism law uh last year.
Uh, or maybe even 23, 23, I don't know, but they actually did it.
They voted in Congress, and if you say bad things against Israel and Netanyahu, you're on a list.
So this is what it's all up against, you know.
It's and here's another thing, it's very important.
You know, we know that the Palestinians are being genocided against.
Well, I mean that the whole human race is next to be genocided.
They are going for the the gusto of probably, you know, a half a billion as opposed to the eight billion.
So that means about 14 out of 15 people alive, they want dead.
And they are using the technology and the Trump guy and Netanyahu.
Yeah, they're moving forward.
They're racing ahead to make sure that the population is depopulated, and the AI robotics are taking over.
So, you know, it's the replacement agenda that they've had in mind for a long time.
And with AI going crazy now, I mean, Britain just made a deal with America, so they're using all that high technology and data centers and all this shit going, pumping up Britain now with the U.S. uh tech companies.
So, yeah, I mean, it's full speed ahead with their agenda, and that's a depopulation agenda that's anti-human.
We're all, you know, in the crosshairs now.
Right.
Kind of my point that I've been making about this assassination.
Now we're all, you know, we've all looked at these staged events for years.
We're experts at it.
And so we're we kind of process this stuff a little differently than most people.
And there's a hell of a lot of precedent for staging events.
That's what we're going on, because they just do it all the time.
Well, you know, why wouldn't they do it this time?
But there's also a new precedent that I think Hakeem just expressed, of just being ruthless and murderous.
So that might be the new uh precedent that's kind of emerging that requires us to think about these events a little differently.
Yeah, but this one is so blatantly staged.
Well, that's what everybody keeps saying.
That's what Paul kept saying, and I've been looking at it, and I think I I think I have some expertise on this.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
And I don't see it as blatant, and you know, I see it as kind of a mixed bag.
That's just my view.
You know, I'm gonna express my view on these shows.
I want you to.
God knows I want you to.
Here's state of the nation, an open letter to the Zionist State of Israel.
This is fabulous.
They give a list of assassination in which Israel was complicit.
President John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald set up with Patsy, Martin Luther King Jr., James Earl Ray set up as Patsy, Robert F. Kennedy, Sir Hansara had set up as Patsy.
Perfect because he's a Palestinian.
Malcolm X, Abdullah Abdullah and Mohammed Ayaz is Kale Islam initially set up as Patsy, Mohammed Ali after stricken via biohabit with Parkinson's and unable to speak, Michael Jackson, Dr. McConrad Murray's head up with Patsy, Mrs. Thomas Massey.
That's still not confirmed, but coroner's report suspiciously never filed.
I believe she was taken out to punish Thomas and give him a warrant.
Charlie Kirk.
Tyler Robinson's passion over which we disagree, but get this.
There are many other mass shootings, each designed to push both concerned state governments and the U.S. federal to pass straight Cody and gun control.
1966, University of Tower shooting, Charles Whitman set up his patse.
I've always thought that was real.
1991, Luby shooting, George Hanard set up his Patsy.
1999, Columbine, Eric Harrison, Dilly Keybolt Patsy's.
2007, Virginia Tech, Singhu Chow, Patsy.
2009 Ford Hood shooting.
Need all have Patsy.
2012 Aurora Theater shooting.
James Eganholm set up 2012 Sandy Hook Alabama Tree School.
Adam Lonza set up his Patsy.
2015, Charleston Church shooting, Dylan Storm Roof set up.
2015, San Bernardino attack.
Say as Reza Farbuck and Tafish Malik set up.
2016, Balls Nightclub shooting, Omar Mateen Patsy, 2017, Las Vegas, Steven Paddock Patsy.
2017, Sutherland Spring Church shooting, Devin Kelly, 2018, Parkland, Nicholas Cruz, 2018, Wittswork Syntagon, Robert Bowles, 2019, El Paso, Patrick Wood, 2022, Rob Elementary, Salvador Ramos.
I can guarantee you, based on my own research about Sandy Hook, Charleston, San Bernardino, Pulse, Las Vegas, Sutherland Spring, Parkland, Pittsburgh.
Absolutely phony ass shit.
Right.
Thanks.
But let's just let's let me just put uh prose a practical question.
What do what do people out there that follow this stuff believe?
I think a hell of a lot of them.
I think that this whole idea of trying to blame a tranny guy with a tranny boyfriend or some bullshit like that, and uh a leftist.
I don't think that that's holding water, and I think there's just a lot of people that think Israel did it, you know.
So it hasn't been a very successful, it hasn't been a very successful operation for them.
Oh, I know, Russ.
I love it.
That's why I love the damn thing.
Because either you know or you don't know, and if you if you don't know, it all rebounds at the end.
But what but why fight it?
You know, why fight it if that's what people want to believe?
You care about the truth for God's sake.
You guys, we care about the truth.
In this case, it's stranger than fiction because he actually fakes it.
I guarantee you 100%, Russ.
You I understand you're saying on the this was a stage event, period.
Absolutely.
I've no doubt.
I see it.
I mean, I can't see his I what I'm saying is I don't really know.
I'm kind of agnostic, and I don't really want to fight the public uh public opinion on this.
I'm gonna ask a fight.
Because it's wonderful.
It's wonderful.
See, the way it works.
That Charlie Cook, this good guy was forced to fake his assassination because he feared he would be assassinated.
What can I think and I are exactly on the same page on this?
I mean, it is devastating.
And now everyone's coming out with all his concerns about Israel.
He didn't believe October 7th.
He was saying it was not on American, it was not anti-Semitic to raise questions.
He was saying maybe U.S. shouldn't be supporting genocide in Israel.
He told Trump to his face, he didn't think bombing Iran was a good idea.
He was now concerned about APAC's rollover our Congresses.
But then after all that, he took the severance package.
Really?
Who didn't take the severance package refused that?
He wants to live.
Severance package package is just one walking away from it and living.
How much do you think, you know, to get him to get him to cooperate?
How much do you think they had to pay him?
To cooperate with what?
With this coax.
To keep them alive.
You are missing the boat 100%, Russ.
He turned down 150 mil to keep shilling for Israel.
He knew he was on the target list.
I'll tell you what, but now we're talking about saving his life.
So then the conversation explains.
He's already a wealthy guy.
He wants to save his life.
Wouldn't you?
Look, Trump did it.
Trump told him how to do it.
Trump did it at Butler.
Trump was threatened with a real assassination.
And he had a guy who helped him stage it.
The same guy was there with Charlie Kirk.
The Secret Service guy.
Well, that was.
That one's been kind of debunked, but anyway, I won't go there.
Russ, Ross.
Tell us if you think it's been debunked.
Because there are so many claims things haven't been to debunked.
The guy who was in the guy.
But I first came out.
Hang on.
The guy who's in Butler is the head of the service.
It was promoted to the head of the Secret Service.
That guy was promoted to the head of the Secret Service.
He wasn't in Arizona or uh where was it?
Utah.
He wasn't there.
I've heard people say that.
And I looked into it, and it's a different guy.
We do have a photograph, Ross.
However, the guy, the two guys behind them were definitely in on it.
No question.
They were definitely in on it.
Whatever it was.
Assassination Rogue.
Let me see what I can do here.
There it is.
Salving.
That's the guy.
the guy on the right has been promoted to the head of Secret Service.
And he was there in Austin with Charlie Kirk.
To me, it looks like a completely completely different guy.
I don't, I don't buy that one at all.
I don't think so.
I'm vaccinated.
What do you think, Joaquin?
Your your thoughts.
It looks like them.
It looks like them.
It's not a real great picture to really be able to zero in on it, but to me, it looks like there's enough of a similarity to say it's very well could be.
You understand Butler was fake.
Absolutely.
All right.
So Trump, Charlie.
Eric has said Donald regards Charlie as virtually another son.
Charlie goes to Trump and he explains he thinks Netanyahu is going to take him out.
And Trump says, Well, look, here's what we could do.
Been there, done that.
There were 29 million shares of Trump stock that were shorted on Friday before Butler.
That meant somebody was serious that the stock was going to drop because Trump was going to be dead.
Trump got drift of it and he flipped the switch.
The script.
He he faked the whole thing with the blood.
We know it, we know it.
That guy was the key guy in doing it.
He told Charlie, look, he'll take care of it for you, and he arranged the damn thing.
That's what the hell happened.
Something like that might happen, but this guy's a different guy.
Something like that, what you just said may have happened.
Maybe they just gave him an out and said, hey, we're gonna you're gonna do an assassination, you're gonna walk out the back door, save your life.
That could have very well happened.
I'll admit that.
That's a reasonable theory.
Joaquin.
I I'd like to take a little bit of a detour here.
Um of the things that in the aftermath of the whole affair, uh Pam Bondi comes out and says, We're gonna shut you down.
You say anything about you know, negative about uh this guy and and this guy and this guy.
We're gonna shut you down with hate speech, you know.
So she's attacking basically the First Amendment, free expression, free speech.
And uh, and that's that's really where we're going, I believe.
Uh yeah, because a lot of people think Israel did it.
So you know, so that's how they react.
They're ruthless, they're going into ruthless mode.
No, no, it all agrees.
The bigger picture, they're going into ruthless mode.
Divide and rule, divide and rule.
So, you know, you you you take out both, you know.
It's not just let's attack uh the lefties now.
I mean, you know, that that's how they stage it.
They they frame it so it's always one group against the next.
But the bigger picture is that the same controllers are doing this, it's all deliberate.
And so the deliberation here is that we're going to lose our well, we've all I think to a great extent are we lost our First Amendment rights.
Uh, we're being shut down, we're being censored.
Uh, so yeah, that's the way I look at it.
There's another aspect of the thing.
There's another wonderful aspect of the State of the Union letter to Israel.
It talks about all the events in which Israel has been complicit as attacks on the United States.
September 11, the coordinated attack involving the hijacked planes, the film in Pennsylvania.
This was an Israeli op.
Uh, Oklahoma City bombing, another domestic terrorist Israeli anthrax attack, probably 9-11, the letters have passed the Patriot Act, Beltway Sniper, a series of attacks in Washington killing.
He believes they had a role there too.
Eric Rolldog bombings, 96 to 98.
Planted in Atlanta in Birmingham, East African Embassy bombing, 1998.
USS Liberty, 1967.
I'll tell you, there's another, the Bally bombing, which appears to have been with a mini nuke.
I I and of course the marine barracks in Lebanon.
That was an Israeli obdu.
And it may have involved a mini nuke, too.
Joaquin, your thoughts.
Yeah.
They're involved in all this stuff.
Um, You know, this is the biggest thing uh coming out because a lot of people that tolerated Israel are now, you know, you know, it's basically the normies are waking up.
That's the good thing about this is that there's so much evidence now, and and they're not resisting the evidence being put in their face.
Uh it's very clear.
They are the pariah on the earth, and by association, and all the money and support America is too.
So this is something we have to we we can't control the Israeli government as much as we can have some say as citizens of the United States on what happens in our own government.
And and we have to do a you know, basically, we need to root our government away so they're not owned, bought, and controlled by Israel and blackmailed by Israel.
That's what we need to also work on.
And would you believe right now they're like what 230 members of a house in Israel right now in Israel?
It's just insulting beyond words.
Insulting beyond words.
Well, you know, there's another story that I don't know if you've been catching this.
Is this big takeover by uh the Oracle family, the um Ellis, what did they call the Ellisons?
Larry Ellison, yeah.
Larry Olson and Son are are taking over, they've taken over CBS News and completely and brought in this Barry Weiss, who's basically a Zionist stooge.
Yeah, right.
You know, CBS has been a little bit on the left.
I guess, I mean, they're not a good network, but they're you know, they have but they weren't they weren't god-awful.
They weren't very good, but they weren't god-awful.
And in the past that isn't that isn't all.
They've all they're also gonna take over TikTok.
I mean, that's that's been out there.
Yeah, that's awful.
That's huge.
And then you've got uh, let's see.
I'm just looking at my notes here.
Uh Larry Ellison, this is Glenn Greenwald, Larry Ellison, the Oracle mega millionaire who has donated millions to the IDF, just had his kid buy Paramount CBS to have Barry Weiss run, is trying to buy CNN, and then will now buy TikTok.
Yeah, it's gonna be all Jewish 24-7.
Oh, you lucky break for Israel is the support collapses in the U.S., he says.
Lucky break.
It's a this one.
There's a story earlier where it the the ADL CEO, Greenblatt told the Israeli Knesset earlier this year how important it was that they quote unquote captured TikTok.
So now it's been captured.
Yeah.
So that's a ramification of this.
They were the bastion of free speech.
They were the real thing, not a phony pseudo.
Like we have on here here in the U.S. Joaquin.
Now it's gone.
Yeah.
I mean, Israel has been able to get away with so much because they have total control over the press.
They they own everything as far as the press, you know.
So yeah.
And now they're gonna do complete capture of the press.
I mean, you know, just no voices whatsoever.
And then persecute anybody that's talking like we are genies out of the bottle now.
The people are are catching on.
So I think this has been a transform.
Call it what you pay.
This has been a turning point.
It is historic turning point, yeah.
Believe it or believe it real or not.
I don't care.
Either way, it works to expose Israel and its shenanigans and its depraved state, and that it's a cancer on the United States.
I think this is sensational.
Absolutely sensational.
Russ, I'm making you host, by the way, at the break.
We'll go to Winter Watch, and you can teach your you know, your ladies until have you guys seen that uh video of the guy that's uh that actually might have uh done a shot on him.
Have you seen that?
It was on State of the Nation.
Uh we can you can run that guy in a brown shirt.
He's got a little mini pistol.
That was my hold it out.
That was my call.
Right there on camera.
The side, the security guy shooting under his arm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's he's he's like on the side and he does it under his arm.
Well, we're gonna on the rail with the lead with the leader that video because it actually shows some other things.
It actually shows some other things of interest.
Russ, it's gonna be all yours, my friend.
I'm taking a couple minutes, about five.
Uh Joaquin, I'd like you to expand more about your article.
I think it was important, and we don't want to short it.
Give us a little more of what you were laying out there.
Basically, it's you know, it's it's trying to compile all the evidence that gives the explanation of why it was done and why it is in some ways protecting him to maintain his life to you know uh but the negative though,
I I can't help but go because I I don't see, yes, there might have been a bond between Trump and and you know the guy, yes.
I I think they did have a close relationship, and maybe Trump actually was helping him stay alive by having the thing staged.
That that is possible.
Um, owned by Israel, though.
That's the problem.
Yeah, that is the problem.
The bigger problem is Trump's still owned by Israel.
They got him on blackmail, you know.
Yeah, all those cameras were running when he was running with uh Epstein.
So, yeah, uh I think his health's gonna take him out anyway.
Uh yes, I do too.
And did you pick up where I mentioned that the AJ that interview with Max Blumenthal when they published it on InfoWars?
The heading was the Secret Service that discovered surveillance devices placed by Mossad on their vehicles, and that Trump now fears he may be targeted by Netanyahu for assassination.
That was actually the title he gave to it, not Max talking about Charlie no longer believing in Israel and you know, doubting uh October 7th, opposing a genocide, uh the attacks on Iran.
They were emphasizing a potential threat against Trump, which I think is actually also real.
Okay, you think it definitely uh it's it's you know, I would get it would be a little bit of a redeeming factor, actually, because I don't have much faith in Trump, but boy, if he was able to uh part from his uh you know the control that Israel has on him, that would be great.
But but I think that yeah, I mean, Israel if if they smell anything that you're gonna do something against them, they'll like the history shows, they'll take you out.
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Okay, so again, this this is some good stuff to kind of take a look at the psyops part of this operation.
Yeah.
You know, the the little mind games they're playing with people.
And so the meme of the day starts out as chat GPT shows an FBI agent at his computer.
Create a text conversation between a mentally unstable 20-something and their transgender furry partner about murdering a public figure.
So chat GPT, meanwhile, this guy Evan Gilgore.
I put the alleged text exchange between Tyler Robinson and his transgender lover into chat GPT and ask if it seemed real and genuine.
Chat CPT says the texts are most Likely fabricated, far too detailed and too incriminating to be real thoughts.
And so there's the verdict.
Can it be real?
Possible, but very unlikely because of how detail staged and incriminating it is.
More likely it is fabricated either by a human writing a mock transcript for dramatic effect or by AI prompted to generate a fake chat log about a violent event.
The stylistic mix of slang and exposition and the narrative flow leans towards AI assisted creation.
Fascinating.
That's so wonderful.
God, I love it.
Here's a break.
It really does uh give them away as far as they're fictionalizing all this.
Uh because I mean, if you've heard young people they talk, they don't talk in full sentences, and yet this is all written out like a prose in a in a full sentence structure.
Exactly.
It's not, you know.
Yeah, it's like it was like prose.
That's and that's what that's this is what Steve Bannon says.
Steve Ben says, how did the guy have time to what write a senate?
I'm absolutely not buying this.
Yeah, and then they make sure that all the guilt's out there in all this back and forth, you know.
He admits everything, you know.
But yeah, Jim, it is really it is really encouraging to see people waking up to this type of stuff.
It is, it is.
Did you want to play a bit of the banner?
Yeah, he kind of says the obvious.
We could listen to it.
You've just killed one of the most prominent people in your generation.
And supposing your motive is you know that that's where you killed him, right?
You assassinate him.
Probably the first living thing you ever killed in your life, and you did in front of 3,000 people.
Um you know the whole world.
This is a global event.
Very quickly.
You adrenaline, and you also know because you tell your parents when they contact you, you're just gonna kill it.
So you know that your last moments on earth are now enveloping you.
That you know that you just shot this guy, it's all the news everywhere, and the cops are either gonna kill you in a shootout or you're gonna kill yourself before they take you, right?
So your last moments on this earth are with you.
And you're telling me that you write your your your boyfriend and say, Dad's gonna be so mad about grandpa's rifle.
He's gonna be so mad about grandpa's rifle.
Dude, your father is supposedly MAGA.
Your parents were supposedly good people that raise you in your Mormons, so they're you know, supposedly you know, rock red conservatives.
You just murdered the most important young person in the world in the conservative movement.
You murdered him.
You shot him down like a dog, and you're telling me that you're gonna text her.
Dan's gonna be very upset.
I lost grandpa's rifle.
Are you kidding me?
While you're explaining everything, oh, we left it here and left it here, but I think I got a palm print on anyway.
I disagree with Bannon.
I don't think Kirk Charlie Kirk was that great.
He's very overrated.
Yeah, yeah.
Go back up where Lee was talking about this, Dr. Lee.
Up up Russ, go back up where he's talking about the chat thing.
Yeah, here, discover those.
Overly detailed responses, unnatural flow expository tone.
Could you read that?
My I'm having trouble reading.
Uh overly detailed responses.
Robinson gives very long, structured explanation, almost like they're narrating events for a report rather than casually texting a roommate.
Real conversations usually have more shorthand slang or broken thoughts.
Two unnatural flow.
The roommate replies are very short and simple compared to Robinson's lengthy and descriptive ones.
The imbalance feels more like dialogue written for a story than an authentic exchange.
Exposition explatory tone.
Robinson explains things in a way that sound like they're giving background for an audience, mentioning rifles, clothing, engraving bullets.
I mean, the graving.
He's supposed to have got etching on the shallow case scenes.
That requires a lot of expertise.
Special equipment.
He doesn't possess any of that.
It's ludicrous.
It's just beyond belief.
Go ahead.
Okay, for lack of normal texting style.
There's minimal use of typos, abbreviations, or quick reactions, like you know, WTF, oh my God, INK man.
That would normally appear in high stress text.
Instead, the writing is clean and deliberate.
A mix of serious plus meme, meme-y language, references like notices bulge UWU jammed into supposedly dire situation, fuel forced, almost like somebody wanted to insert internet culture into a dramatic script.
Overall, it reads more like a fabricated script, transcript, or repla replay scenario rather than a raw, real exchange between two people.
Thank you for that.
Joaquin, your thoughts.
I mean, it's obvious.
This is just phony as shit.
I think that the government knows that it's not going to be believed, and they did it on purpose.
I believe that they want people to basically diss the government, revolt against the government.
I think that they're looking to piss everybody off so that they go against the government and they go full force with the martial law and you know the lockdowns and all the rest of the heavy-handed bullshit, the gulag America that uh Trump is going for.
I I think they're doing it on purpose to piss people up because it's so obvious and over-the-top fault.
Okay, so next we have uh Cash Patel.
So one of his pathetic form performances.
Updating.
Here in the headlight.
Yeah, doing updates on the Kirk's murder probe.
And he just admitted the evidence tied to the Kirk assassination was by was quote unquote destroyed by who.
Did he write a written note before uh before the assassination attempt?
That's what the governor said yesterday.
And what did that say if you could.
So what I'm able to say.
I'm sorry.
So what I was what I'm able to say is I I addressed it partially earlier, is that the written note we believe did exist, and we have evidence to show what was in that note, which is uh, and I'm going to uh summarize basically saying I uh the suspect wrote a note saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm gonna take it.
That note was written before the shooting.
Um evidence of his existence, we now have learned existed before the shooting was in the location in the suspect and partner's home.
But we have since learned that the note, even though it has been destroyed, we have found forensic evidence of the note, and we have confirmed what that note says because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI.
What?
You guys call that?
Oh god.
Aggressive interview posture.
We had the note, it was you know, the tranny lover had it.
We're able to kind of recreate the note through, I guess, interrogating the tranny guy.
So it's just like a conglomeration of uh I don't know, bullshit.
Well, Joaquin, I I don't believe any sensible person is gonna believe any of this, but I'm not quite convinced that they wanted that effect.
It may be, though.
I mean, I'm open to it.
I'm just not quite there yet, just like Ross May.
I think I think they really are trying to alienate the population from the government so that there's a crisis in the in the no longer uh having any kind of public trust in our government.
I think they're actually inciting it purposely.
Yep.
Yeah, just complete complete loss of confidence in the system and institutions.
Uh okay, so the official story is that a kid with a totally normal, healthy, right-leaning family got really into trans stuff somehow, even though there's no record of it, apparently.
Made an excellent 200-yard one-shot kill.
It's not admitted to the actual crime.
Is the FBI going to release the crime scene photos?
Changed his clothes.
Oh, the changing the clothes, what a routine that was.
I think you covered that one.
Changed the clothes and broke down the gun in record time for some reason, put it back together and planted it in the woods.
None of the footage footage looks convincing or like the right kid.
Uh we could look at that.
We have mixed reports of the bullets had anti-file mess messages on them.
We have mixed reports, or if they had a bullet at all.
We have no autopsy report.
Kash Patel replaced the Utah FBI person in charge of this district a few weeks and months ago.
Yeah, I think it's because the original guy wasn't going along with a hoax.
Was he going to go along with assassin?
At the time, I think they thought it was going to be real.
At the time, I think they thought it was going to be real, and they really were going to finger this guy.
Also, also America found out when he died, when he died, when Kirk died from President Trump.
It wasn't even a hospital, you know, spokesperson that that comes out with it.
It was Trump.
Okay, we got a Rabbi Handler and Charlie Kirk had a pointed interaction before the alleged hit.
Israeli agent Rabbi Wooliki, who gave Charlie Kirk Hasbarra coaching just hours before his death says it really hurt Charlie when the Jewish community came down on him for platforming certain speakers at his last conference who were anti-Israel.
I was not happy.
This is quoting this guy.
I was not happy that Charlie had given the stage to people like Tucker Carlson who were spewing venom about the Jewish state.
So just losing control of the narrative.
Yes.
He really believed to fault, I believe, in allowing every voice to be heard.
There were many prominent people in the America First Movement who would privately speak to Charlie and message him trying to get him to drop his support for Israel.
Well, exactly.
Because we've had two years of genocide.
Americans fundamentally are not genocidal people.
They're not like Israelis.
The American people are gullible as hell.
But I don't think deep down in the heart of the average American is this genocidal rage of starving people and bombing them into.
I mean I might be wrong.
What do you guys think?
No, no, of course you're right.
Well, I I don't even think that the uh Israeli citizens uh are are really behind this whole thing either.
Uh the majority of them.
Yeah, a lot of them are fanatical and they are brainwashed to have this Jewish supremacy thing.
But I I don't I don't think so.
They don't have the support.
The government, the government's operating on its own now.
I'm I'm waiting for the Netanyahu regime to be taken out.
Okay, so here's the Spencer Cox, who's really a sketchy character.
The governor of Utah has played a major role in all this.
Yes, yes.
So um, so when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on, and then he changes clothing on the roof, and then changed it back into that clothing at some point so that when when he was uh when he was apprehended when he when he was arrested, um the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UV.
So here's...
Here's Cash Patel in the background thinking about Valhalla.
This is such a rubbish!
So, yes, yes.
So uh so when he was first spotted on campus, he had different clothing on, and then he's changed clothes on the roof, and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when when uh when he was apprehended when he was apprehended, arrested, the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting.
What he said.
There it is.
So the government had When you're not being truthful, it is kind of hard to read from a script, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
This is interesting about Max including Trump's chief of staff as a Zionist.
That's very significant.
Max Blumenthal is so damn good.
He's so honest.
He's so knowledgeable.
So clear and direct.
Love that.
He's very good.
Very good.
Now the next story, fortunately, was thrown out in this congressional uh bill, but it was a bill that allowed the State Department to revoke the passports of American citizens that criticize U.S. foreign policy.
The first run on this one was rejected.
They took they took it out of the bill.
But it's still out there.
That's where they're headed, though.
That's that's the bottom line.
They're headed toward you speak out against the government against Israel.
Yeah, you're on a list.
YouTube is taking down the video where Charlie Kirk's question questioned whether Israel issued a stand down order on October 7th.
I mean, yeah, but it's bad that YouTube did that.
How disgraceful.
Yeah, I mean, there's just a lot of things that Charlie Kirk was doing.
People are finding it.
Yeah, I think he they just he knew he was losing his influence over this MAGA movement.
You know, he's starting to look like a clown.
No, he wasn't.
BB was worried that the mega movement was no longer supporting Israel.
Charlie was reflecting the movement, which was 65% of supporting Amos.
Amos.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Right.
Great reality.
Oh, the Crisis Actor diversion of the Kirk scene.
Did you see this one?
I'll call you there a break.
Go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
This is interesting.
This George Zinn guy.
There's a one and a two every place.
George Zen was a witness to the 9-11 attacks when he would describe seeing the planes at the towers.
Then he got arrested in 2013 for emailing a bomb threat joke to the Salt Lake City Marathon shortly after the Boston bombing and was detained.
So this guy's then he was detained in Utah, claiming he was a shooter.
Give us a break.
Give us a break.
Just right after just right after the incident, right after the assassination.
And now he's in trouble because he had uh little kids on his computer.
Sex.
Yes, George Zen is Jewish.
Yes, those people are giving the go-ahead signal.
Yes, the government blocked the fifth flight path.
Today on the is the 24th anniversary of 9-11.
So here he is just doing his little song and dance diversion.
I thought that was kind of funny.
Funny incident.
It just kind of almost like follows the pattern of like the Kennedy assassination and different diversionary things they've done on different assassinations.
By the way, if you have that video, that short clip about the security guy seemingly shooting Charlie, it would be good to show it.
We haven't shown it.
We haven't shown it.
Yeah.
Okay.
There it is.
My screen, my screen's showing up okay.
We've been having some problems with the screen.
The problem is in the ultimate recording, not recording it, but I don't understand why that's happened at all.
It's happened several times now.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I've gone into the I've gone in around the webs, and they're not showing up on the screen.
It's clearly on the screen now.
Right, we can see it.
Clear as they're in America.
Over the last time.
Right there.
counting or not counting game likes.
Right there, right there.
*Dies* you
Okay, so people some people are saying that this guy in the brown.
No, no, it's the guy in the right here in the foreground in the right foreground.
This guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, after the break.
There it is.
He goes down.
I gotta tell you, Kirk goes down pretty hard.
Don't, I mean, the way he drops down his dead weight.
I wouldn't try this at home.
Watch how he goes down.
He takes a pretty good fault here.
Counting and not counting game files.
Don't try that.
Don't try that drop at home.
That's big time wrestling.
Yeah.
Yeah, he does hit hard.
Okay, I guess that's uh it on the round the webs.
Uh Tucker Carlson tells Pearson Morgan Israel had foreknowledge of 9-11, saw the taxes serving its interest, and he was scheduled, Tucker Carlson's scheduled to present a documentary on 9-11, and he called it off for a week.
For a week?
Is that what it is?
We'll see.
Yeah.
Okay, so I'll stop, Cher.
Oh.
Okay.
okay Sharing is not turned on.
Send request.
I don't know.
Well, I turned to turn it on.
I turned that on.
I gotta regain the host, yeah.
Yeah, I stopped it.
I turn it off.
Right.
It's okay.
We're good now.
Well, I pull up the what we're looking for.
Well, I don't know.
We're living in some weird times where uh every what two or three days something else big happens.
The misdirection wag the dog thing has been going on so big time in the last, I don't know, it's been progressively uh getting worse as the year goes on, as far as you know, one thing after the next.
You'll notice that it's about two or three days, and then another big event happens.
Um, you know, I think we're coming into the next misdirection big headline.
Okay, do you gentlemen see my screen?
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
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This is Dean Ryan.
I do lots of shows with Dean.
We go back 15 years or more.
He seems to have found it the guy I was identifying.
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So while the rest of the country is told to beware, be cautious of the transtifas.
The radical left.
The lone gunman with the impossible rifle.
just as I originally thought, was point blank.
And amongst us the entire time, but more importantly, amongst Charlie...
He's the guy on the other side there, too.
The guy in the brown.
Yeah.
The guy in the brown.
And that's how it's a good one.
Signaling though.
Signaling.
The leaders of the Mossad of Israel control the narrative.
The End I'll play it again.
Wait a minute.
I'll play it again.
The smoking gun.
Shoebrands have been lying to you.
No one can use me at first, but now everyone.
Anyone who ignores earring is playing a dangerous Game.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not just noise.
Wow.
How do I get back to the real deal?
I'll keep working on it.
Keep working on it.
By the way, you know, Erica, her performance was just so awful as I say.
She's got the nomination for worst crisis actress ever.
Running competition with some of those from Sandy Hook and Orlando who were just dreadful.
And notice how cheerful she is smiling as while cane absurd.
It's called Duper's Delight.
That people are engaged in this who aren't professional.
Can't resist.
I want to thank the staffers of this.
She's a static broadcast from this studio.
This chair.
Every day he loved it.
He loved what he did.
I want to thank the millions of people who have shown their love for Charlie here in Phoenix.
Across America and worldwide.
I want to thank my husband's dear friend, Vice President Vance, and his phenomenal wife, Usha.
His phenomenal wife and support.
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Here's a clip I want to share.
Pretty short, a minute and 16.
This is just somebody was there, participating, caught Charlie walking in, but you can see the blood pack on his back.
Just take a look at this.
Love you, Charlie.
This is the Russian right back.
Bye, everyone.
There it is, building out.
There it is.
Right here.
had a hunchback.
Dick Carly had a hunchback.
No way down there.
They saw a man adjusting his cap right before the shot.
shot.
you Thank you.
as if giving a signal to the sniper.
*gunshot* *gunshot* *gunshot* *gunshot* you you
The public are warned to be on their guard.
These dark powers apparently do this.
And, well, anyway, knowing where to look is what's important.
Shit.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I've got uh you want to give me another five minutes, I've got a little bit more on the pat seed.
You gotta let me uh switch back to you my man.
Hang on a second.
I'll make you the host again.
Go for it, Russ.
Go for it.
Okay, um.
There he is, right there.
That's what he looks like.
He's a kind of a skinny guy.
This is our alleged assassin.
Right.
Yeah.
Lands on the steel.
Oh, I know.
And he did.
I mean, this is actually a pretty impressive jump.
You know, before the jump, he kind of climbs up on the ledge like a monkey and then drops down.
It's still a pretty good drop.
He lands on his feet without rolling.
That looks fake as hell.
That really does.
And you know, yet we have no idea who this guy is jumping off of this roof.
Could have been, you know, taken at any time, stage a completely different day.
Uh completely different individual.
So this doesn't prove anything in terms Of who the perp was.
And then here's the original suspect photo to the left.
The guy on the left is different from the guy on the right.
He really is.
He really is.
And so apparently, based on the fact that he's wearing that both these guys wear converse shoes, his dad turned him in.
Well, you know, what's his name?
Uh Altman.
The guy.
Um actually is putting up I think a million dollars to lead to the killer.
Um and it's his this guy's father.
Oh yeah, so he goes home, apparently his dad confronts him for some reason because he saw a picture on the left of the guy wearing Converse.
This is what his son wears, confronts him.
Now I've heard that the son has never confessed to doing it.
He isn't admitted to it.
But the father loads him up in the car and takes him down to the police, and they got their guy.
But here's the guy.
The guy in the photos in the stairwell has built-up traps, trapeze trapezoids muscles, kind of broader shoulder, bigger neck, more shoulder muscle, lean, you know, lean, looks almost like a little taller.
And so here's this uh Tyler Robinson, he's just totally different build, scrawny.
You know, look at the nose.
It's not the same guy.
no Oh, this is good stuff.
Go back there.
No, go back up.
The one about the yeah.
So this guy shot Charlie with his rifle and optic, disassembled this rifle, slid it down his leg, jumped off the roof, reassembled it and left.
I mean, the whole thing's idiotic.
That the weapon is very difficult.
I think this is a savage, it's not a mauser.
And when a mauser can't have the weapon disembled, it requires a tool and great torque.
The kid didn't even look strong enough to dissemble it.
Plus, it takes time to do it.
And he's supposed to be and you just shot somebody, and there's all this anxiety and and fear, and right, you know, you want to escape.
You don't have the time for this shit.
And he's changing his clothes, Joaquin.
It's laughable.
It's laughable.
This whole story.
That's how far.
He changes it on the roof, you know, instead of clearing out of there, he does a close chance.
And then runs across the roof, hurls himself up, lands on his feet miraculously, like uh and I reiterate the point I've made many times now.
When he jumps off the roof, you get crunched up like an accordion.
If you had a steel metal in your leg, it would puncture your intestine, maybe your heart, you'd be dead there on the spot.
Stupid do it.
Yeah, you could, I mean, you could rupture your quad tendon.
That's what happened to me, of course.
I was old when that happened, but you can easily rupture your quad tendon on the city.
The idea of running with that barrel in your leg is just so silly.
It's beyond belief.
So all of a sudden he's just spotted with uh a t-shirt, which is basically a socialist t-shirt of some group in Salt Lake.
You know, the home salt like chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America.
So, you know, they're they're trying to make him look like a leftist.
Yeah.
A violent met leftist, even though he comes from a good Mormon family, and I don't know.
Well, that was what BB was saying.
It's Charlie was killed by the Islamists and the progressives and the trannies.
I mean, it's such a stupid theory.
I cannot believe it.
So here's a picture of the guy when he's young, young guy, with some kind of a BB gun, it looks like, or pellet gun.
I think that's the only he ever actually fired with a BB gun.
And then here's Lee Harvey Oswald.
Similar pose.
Yeah.
Oh, just so this is just silly.
See, images like this are ingrained in people's brains.
People don't even realize it.
That you when you see this Lee Harvey Oswald image, it's inbrained in your brain.
So all of a sudden you see this.
Oh Sassin.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
What's this?
And then, you know, the pictures that they take after they're arrested, and they're all confused and dazed and drug looking.
You know, it's very similar between both of these guys.
Is this guy even been seen in public at all?
Has he been led?
Has he been led from a car, you know, a cop car?
He's been taking down a uh no, but there's gonna be Jack Ruby there for him.
What about the court?
What about the court hearing?
How'd that go down?
Was he even there, or did they just kind of do it secretively?
Supposedly it went down, yeah.
Is there any kind of any kind of footage of it?
I haven't seen any.
I don't think they even have proof of death, however.
I don't think they even have an autopsy report or a death certificate yet.
I mean, it if and if you were a defense attorney, given the statement made by the county attorney in such detail, you'd realize the jury pool was tainted.
It could not be held in Utah.
Just absurd.
Okay, back to you.
Okay.
Okay.
So that doesn't that doesn't look like the same guy.
They just got some guy with the only thing that's similar is a converse shoes.
That's it.
My wife and I are, of course, uh have been politically divided since Trump came on the scene, was showing me photos of the two different photos, two different guys.
My wife was showing me that.
We were in agreement.
They're not the same guy.
And she's even open to the whole thing having been a farce that it was a fraud, which I'm glad, but of course, Russ himself is relocked.
I mean, I think we can all agree.
We can all agree on the Patsy theory for sure.
I mean, this was really blatant.
Walking, give us more of your assessment of what the hell's going on here.
Well, uh, you know, I I my view is there's divide and rule, left versus right, Republican Democrat, and they're stirring up a trouble.
We're we're headed towards some kind of martial law, perhaps even civil war.
I mean, uh, you know, there's the supposedly all those sleeper cells, you know.
I mean, they're gonna get activated.
Uh, you know, the the terrorist sleeping cell, as well as the the Antifa types, you know.
Um, there's gonna be more trouble, and I think they're trying to stir things up so that they can do martial law and have military on every street.
Um that's kind of where we're headed, and at the same time, they use the uh the technocrats to you know make lists on all of us.
So, yeah, we're we're underwatch.
So that's what I think it's headed.
You know, tyranny in America.
Russ, give us your take.
Well, some of the news like this thing about taking away your passport really makes me nervous.
Oh, it's outrageous.
And they kind of take glee.
They take glee in it, you know.
Ah, we're gonna strand you assholes in Europe or wherever, or Indonesia, or you know, wherever you are, you're just gonna be stranded.
You're gonna lose your passport if you're critical of Israel?
Yeah, yeah.
That's where they're going.
That's where they're going with this, and it's out there, you know.
It's not it's not just us theorizing and fearing something.
They try they tried to put it into a house bill and get it passed.
And you know, that's where it's going.
It's before Congress.
Thing is just ludicrous, ludicrous.
Well, I think uh Charlie's gonna look good no matter what Candace Tucker Max all talking about the transformation he'd undergone that he was no longer a true believer in Zionism or Israel that he was raising question about October 7th.
I love when he said that it's not on American or anti-Semitic task questions about October 7 because he'd been there, he'd looked at that wall.
He said every 10 feet there's a guy with a machine gun or or an AR 50 that all of Israel is the IDF.
Yeah, he could have made a present presentation at your uh conspiracy conference.
Oh god, yeah, I would love it.
I would love it, I would love it.
And then that he was, you know, uh Charlie.
If you hear if you're still out there somewhere, there's an there's an invite here.
Oh god, yes, God, yes, God, yes.
And that he was uh no longer thinking the US ought to be supporting genocide.
They wasn't sure we shouldn't be involved in the war in Ukraine that even though told Trump directly to his face, he thought it was a bad idea to bomb Iran.
I mean, this is a good guy who's who's coming around to understand what the hell is going on.
He had a real awakening.
Joaquin, would you not agree 100%?
Absolutely, but his downfall was he had too big a following, and when somebody's telling the truth, the evil ones don't want them having a big following follow the truth, you know.
I had a friend who's got a lot of knowledge about Intel telling me that last night.
Like, Jim, you gonna don't want to get too big or they're gonna take you out.
And you know, I I just think about I've been around for so damn many years, you know.
I mean, since nineteen ninety-two, I've been doing all this serious shit on exposing governmental complicity and JFK 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Uck, Boston bombing more and more and more.
He says actually the government likes that because they like having the opposition to create confusion, conflict in the minds of the public.
That they he tells me that uh the bad guys like the kind of thing we do in exposing it because of the role of cognitive dissonance when you can't reconcile conflicting points of view, and it leaves the world in a state of uncertainty.
That's a point I've made in the past is that the objective isn't to convince you one side uh is right and the other is wrong, but to create so much uncertainty that everything is believable and nothing is knowable.
Yeah.
Yeah, this operation definitely has that feel to it.
There's a lot there's a lot of elements in this in this thing.
The Patsy, these operatives like Cash Patel, the FBI, the governor of Utah.
That's I tell you what, I'll bet you this governor of Utah ends up being a vice president or something.
He's gonna get paid off.
Expensive cock.
What a jerk that guy is.
You just tell.
Talk about genuine, it's not very genuine at all.
Just like the governor of Pennsylvania, also Jewish, so I take it the Utah guy's a Mormon.
That Shabiro.
Um, the Mormons are into this whole Zion thing.
They get that's a good one.
Yeah, what I and most members of the FBI, by the way, are Mormons.
I don't know if you were aware of that, but they they recruit very heavily from Utah.
And uh what I love about this event is it's so small.
Kill one shot, one rifle, one suspect.
Everyone can wrap their mind around it.
It's not like uh something is sprawling as JFK.
That was one person, but it was so complicated, so much fabricated evidence.
Everyone's got an opinion about Charlie and what really happened.
I love it.
That means they're gonna keep digging and keep digging.
This is not going to go away.
Maybe I don't know, ever.
I don't know.
I can see this indue for 10 years effortlessly walking, would you agree?
Yeah.
And another good point is he was also bringing up uh the Epstein thing with Trump.
Yeah.
He actually brought that up.
Um yeah, he he was a good guy, you know.
And uh, and that's he's talking about things that aren't going away.
That's not gonna go away.
The real cause of the cause of proxima of his change of view is his movement.
These people were waking, they're they're the ones that were waking up and continue to wake up.
And this incident even amplifies it even more because a lot of those people think that he was assassinated by the Israelis.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good thing.
Miles Matthews.
Yeah, they're the heavy.
Has a report about it that is uh pretty good.
Here it is.
The murder of Charlie Kirk was, of course, staged.
Let me just read you a couple paragraphs.
Note the date to begin with, the alleged murder was 910, 2025, which is the same as a matter of numerology as 9-11, both being ones and nines.
Why not ones and eights this time?
I don't know.
I guess they felt they had overuse that.
How am I one of the very few saying this was staged?
It should be the default assumption of any current event.
Actually, Alex Jones admitted in his broadcast today that many on the ground in Utah said the murder looks staged even while he was selling the event as real.
kind of weird.
It's not really advisable to say the event was staged while you're selling it as real.
So it does help me here.
Then he's got a lot about Charlie's background.
Here's flipping to page six, which brings me back to the lovely photo under the title.
I have to let it seep in your brain for a while.
It's tagged as a photo from their wedding.
At first, I thought they got married at a construction site.
But then I look closer.
That's Jerusalem in the background.
Is that a pretty place for people who aren't Jewish to get married?
You will say they're they are just that religious.
But other I think they met in Israel.
She was doing some kind of work there.
Some kind of Zionist work.
Here we go.
Then we come to Kirk being a buddy of Trump, who had two staged assassination attempts already.
Trump who had just declared a National Day of Mourning and we got flags at Half Mass in honor of Kirk.
Really?
For Charlie Kirk?
That's like flags at half make for Grover.
I I remind you.
Even if you like Kirk, he was not Einstein or Mother Teresa.
He was a 31-year-old kid who was a podcaster, never did anything memorable other than yap, like thousands of other self-appointed pundits.
He had no education, was not even self-educated, just reading straight from Scribs or teleprompter, so flags at half mast for this guy makes no sense.
Also strange that Kirk was flown out on Air Force II.
Was he really that important and connected?
How?
I don't understand a 31-year-old talking head married at this kind of response.
Next week come to the video, which is as fishy as everything else to start with.
It is a snuff film.
So why are these things being released same day?
That used to be forbidden.
Shouldn't the family be notified before the world watches that court of blood squirting from his neck?
It is CGI, but still, you should be very suspicious.
Do you want your kids watching this?
What is stopping them?
You shouldn't be watching it either.
Since it's traumatizing, but of course, that's the whole point.
It is the visible acceleration of Operation Chaos, and the CIA DHS or whoever's decided the way it's going to be from now on.
Your remaining sensibilities are going to be obliterated by constant stream of CGI snuff films, as all your fake heroes have their heads explode.
If you choose to click on them, they will come to your house personally and project him under your walls and ceiling.
Even so, the films aren't convincing at all.
As with the 9-11 fake films.
The film pans away to the crowd or to his shoe tops.
That's true.
That's true.
That one, the one on the side, he pans away right away.
The second one, they stayed on him for a little while, and he's pans away.
The third one from the left stayed on him for a while till he dropped to the ground.
But the first one panned away.
What's that all about?
Why?
Because they don't want you looking too closely at all this.
They want you to whack your head and hard in the face, then pan away before you can figure out it's fake.
They've obviously planted a bunch of agents in the crown with cell phones to make you think this is citizen footage collected from some college students that just happened to be filming.
But they are conveniently too far away and too low quality to confirm or non-confirm.
Like films of Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster.
That said, I would say the film's non-confirm.
Since Kirkface looks distorted after they had a person shot like that, wouldn't just slouch to the left in his chair.
He collapsed like a deer shot in the neck, falling out of their chair hard immediately, but of course, Kirk didn't want to hurt himself in this acting, so they had to cut away.
The bullet also had to pass through without obstruction from the next one.
That's not entirely true.
And the third one that we looked at earlier, they had him hit pinning hard.
So but yeah, the first two they cut away.
That's true.
But that's what most people saw.
The bullet also had to pass through without obstruction from the neck bones to get a squirt like that.
So it should see more damage to people in backdrops to the right occur.
We don't.
There is also AI CGI residue on the film with strange dots moving across his chest.
Kirk's ring switching fingers and the like.
Yes, yes, yes.
Indeed.
His his ring moves from his ring finger to his little finger.
Okay, that particular clip looks altered.
I don't know that it was CGI, but it looked altered.
And I don't know if anybody can evaluate that, but he's all of a sudden his arm went black dark.
It didn't work.
Well, the show I did Monday.
The show I did Monday with Danny Searas, uh right here.
Uh he was emphasising.
There should have been blood all over the place.
There should have been blood on the background.
There's no blood on the background.
We got a new report.
Is he carried to the SUV?
There's no blood.
There's no blood.
There's not enough blood.
And I I think that's very, very telling, very damn.
Well, it didn't really, they didn't really get let you have a good look at the blood that would have been there because they didn't really film it.
So they did not treat it as a crime scene.
If this is a murder, you gotta leave them the body in place for the cops and attack these coming spectrum.
But not a not necessarily of Israel's behind us.
But they took it down immediately.
They took it down immediately.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Joaquin, your final or further thoughts.
Well, I I think 2025 is the year of the reckoning when the truth is finally coming out big time.
And every week we're gonna see more glimpses of the dark truth coming out, and this is good.
This is good because it gives us a movement now, a movement to counter the evil that's been going on for so long.
And I say either if you believe it's real or believe it's fake, Israel is being put to scrutiny, and that is a good thing.
I think the outcome of this is gonna be fantastic and a real awakening, uh turning point.
Russ, final word.
And I think they were gonna hear more about this.
I mean, there's gonna be some scrutiny of this Patsy.
They got he's gonna have to reveal himself as a real human being, say something, be represented by an attorney, something that kind of unless they kill him, unless they do a Lee H unless they do a Jack Ruby on him.
The whole uh Patsy thing is such a joke, such a farce.
No one's gonna believe the official narrative.
Everyone's gonna have questions.
And the dick deeper you dig, the worse it is for Israel, for Zionism, for the genocide.
It's really fascinating.
I welcome this development.
I think its consequences are going to be extraordinary for the world.
They can't just leave Patsy in limbo.
They can't just leave him in limbo.
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