Jim Fetzer - The Raw Deal (17 September 2025) "Fearsome Threesome" edition with Russ Winter and Joachim Hagopian

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	Well, we all need a little help these days, no doubt.
	This is Jim Pletzer, your host on the raw deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 17th day of September 2025 for a fearsome, threesome edition with Russ Winter and Joaquina Gopian.
	An extraordinarily interesting interview took place where Max Blumenthal was on with Alex Jones.
	And while Alex interrupted him repeatedly, I think Alex has an ego problem with anyone else consuming more time than he is on his own show.
	What Max had to say in a nine-minute segment was extraordinary.
	And I want to get everyone's opinion about it.
	First time I'm revealing this other than we just updated our article at the Gray Zone.
	Her name is Natasha Hausdorff, and we were told this by an attendee of the meeting, and I haven't been able to reach out to her.
	So, you know, if this turns out to be false, we'll correct it.
	But I trust the source because Natasha Hausdorff, Natasha Hausdorff, let's pull that up.
	Go ahead.
	H-A-U-S-S-D-O-R-F.
	And she was taking what Bill, what Bill Ackman was doing, apparently he was trying to maintain his composure, but she was screaming at him.
	And what I heard from people in the room is that the whole meeting was a disaster.
	It was convened mainly to talk about the danger of Zorhan Mamdani as New York mayor.
	And then after the meeting, or towards the end of this, it was kind of like an influencer summit, and they were taken to fancy restaurants in the Hamptons.
	I backed that up with photos that they stupidly posted on social media.
	Everyone at the meeting was offered a free trip to Israel, and most of them took it.
	Newsmax fronted for the trip.
	Newsmax has become a vehicle for Israeli influence.
	Its CEO, Chris Ruddy, just met with Netanyahu in Israel.
	And one of the influencers there, Xavier DeRousseau from Prager U, whose CEO is a veteran of Israel's cyber spying division, Unit 8200, went to one of these starvation sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation starvation sites, paid for by the Israeli government, and delivered a video mocking the starvation in Gaza and claiming that Hamas leaders were eating all the ramen and therefore they were on Ozempic.
	This is what they're being paid to do.
	And then there's just a bigger issue here.
	I thought this movement was about America first that Charlie Kirk was heading.
	Absolutely.
	This is Natasha right here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's her.
	And what I did was I showed the source the picture and said, was this her?
	And they immediately said yes.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Well, thanks for that.
	That was my, I think, Wikipedia bio.
	A bunch of outlets I'm no longer allowed to write for.
	But thanks for hosting this important conversation.
	I mean, this is about much more than Charlie Kirk.
	This is about what we've done at the Gray Zone is lifting the mask since Charlie Kirk's horrific death on a major foreign influence operation in the United States targeting the conservative movement.
	It's also targeted the left as well, run by Benjamin Netanyahu, who is currently presiding over a seven-front war, a genocide in Gaza, and a global assassination campaign that reaches into a U.S. ally now of Qatar, which hosts one of the largest U.S. military bases in the region.
	And what we have learned is not that Israel was responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination.
	We have no evidence of that.
	So let's just take that off the table.
	Maybe someone will find something.
	It's very understandable why the public has a lack of trust in the official story, as you just came out in your intro and explained.
	But what happened is Benjamin Netanyahu, while Charlie Kirk's body was still warm, came out with videos and tweets trying to claim Charlie Kirk's legacy because Charlie Kirk was in many ways built up by pro-Netanyahu, pro-Israel donors.
	And he claimed that Charlie Kirk was the greatest friend of Israel and that the radical left and Muslims were responsible for his death before a suspect was even caught.
	So Netanyahu was trying to milk this for Israel's benefit.
	And people close to Charlie Kirk, including a longtime friend with access to the Trump administration, started talking to me through various contacts I had in Washington and in the media and telling me this is not true.
	Charlie Kirk was undergoing a transformation.
	He was actually under pressure from Netanyahu because of what we saw at the TPUSA Student Action Summit in July, where he was platforming figures who were saying Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad asset, that Israel was actually committing genocide in Gaza.
	Comic Dave Smith said that.
	Tucker Carlson mocking the Zionist billionaire Bill Ackman.
	And he was under enormous pressure and they were trying to shut him down and he was defying them.
	He actually privately despised Benjamin Netanyahu.
	I learned from two sources, one inside the administration that he was actually lobbying against the U.S. striking Iran in June and that he was almost alone.
	By the way, you tried.
	At first, the vice president yesterday hosting Charlie's show posthumously said that.
	Well, there you go.
	I mean, there you go.
	I mean, a lot of what I reported is reflected in public statements and we're learning more.
	And so subsequent to my first story on December 12th about Charlie Kirk's transformation and the pressure he was under, which left him very angry, as we saw from his public appearances, and according to friends, frightened, I learned from multiple sources that there is this meeting in the Hamptons that Bill Ackman, who is a billionaire hedge funder, who is one of the biggest kind of Israeli assets in this, like most influential Israeli power brokers.
	I mean, he's an American, but he's operating on behalf of Israeli interests, convened this summit in the Hamptons with conservative influencers.
	And Charlie Kirk was there.
	And Bill Ackman started confronting Charlie Kirk about what he was doing at TPUSA, that it wasn't pro-Israel enough.
	And I dressed it.
	And by the way, there's a lot of clips of Kirk not naming names, but saying, I've got the Israel lobby and Israel calling me and donors calling me and, you know, saying I'm anti-Semitic and I'm bad.
	If I even question what's going on, I think that's wrong.
	So it's not just Candace Owens, who's close friends with her and I trust her.
	It's not just rumors.
	It's not just a big donor saying he was scared of Israel killing him that Harrison met with at Ron Paul's 90th birthday.
	It was Charlie himself said this.
	He said he was concerned.
	And that was on with Megan Kelly, I think, the day after the Hamptons meeting that you're talking about happened.
	This was on, I believe, August 4th or 5th.
	And on August 6th, he went on, Megan Kelly, and complained about stakeholders who were pro-Israel treating him horribly.
	And he said, I have less ability to criticize Israel than an Israeli does.
	So clearly it was getting to him and he was referring to this meeting.
	I just learned from someone who was in the room, who was at the meeting, that in addition to Bill Ackman, a British pro-Israel lawyer named Natasha Hausdorff was screaming at Charlie Kirk, like absolutely screaming at him.
	She is from a Israel lobby group in the UK that is like an extremely- Let me stop you again.
	You told us this an hour before the show, and I dropped the ball.
	So let's say your name again.
	You said we're going to break exclusive news, you're breaking it now.
	We have this big Israeli lobbyist screaming at Carly Kirk.
	Say your name again so we can pull her up.
	This is the exclusive information.
	Yes, this is.
	This is the first time I'm revealing this other than we just updated our article at the Gray Zone.
	Her name is Natasha Hausdorff, and we were told this by an attendee of the meeting, and I haven't been able to reach out to her.
	So, you know, if this turns out to be false, we'll correct it.
	But I trust the source because Natasha Hausdorff, Natasha Hausdorff, let's pull that up.
	Go ahead.
	H-A-U-S-S-D-O-R-F.
	And she was taking what Bill Ackman was doing.
	Apparently, he was trying to maintain his composure, but she was screaming at him.
	And what I heard from people in the room is that the whole meeting was a disaster.
	It was convened mainly to talk about the danger of Zorhan Mamdani as New York mayor.
	And then after the meeting, or towards the end of this, it was kind of like an influencer summit, and they were taken to fancy restaurants in the Hamptons.
	I backed that up with photos that they stupidly posted on social media.
	Everyone at the meeting was offered a free trip to Israel, and most of them took it.
	Newsmax fronted for the trip.
	Newsmax has become a vehicle for Israeli influence.
	Its CEO, Chris Ruddy, just met with Netanyahu in Israel.
	And one of the influencers there, Xavier De Rousseau from Prager U, whose CEO is a veteran of Israel's cyber spying division, Unit 8200, went to one of these starvation sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation starvation sites, paid for it by the Israeli government, and delivered a video mocking starvation in Gaza and claiming that Hamas leaders were eating all the ramen and therefore they were on Ozempic.
	This is what they're being paid to do.
	And then there's just a bigger issue here.
	I thought this movement was about America first that Charlie Kirk was heading.
	Absolutely.
	Just interrupt.
	This is Natasha right here.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And what I did was I showed the source the picture and said, was this her?
	And they immediately said yes.
	Every guest we've interviewed in studio, I've given our ultramethylene Bluetooth.
	And they've all.
	Well, look, there's a lot to be said about this.
	Let's start with you, Rush, and your thoughts right off the bat.
	Well, Charlie Kirk does not control the MAGA youth.
	That's his constituents and he speaks to them.
	He helped organize them, but they have changed.
	They have completely shifted gears.
	We've talked about this numerous times on our show.
	The polls reflect it.
	They've turned anti-Israel.
	And so if Charlie Kirk's going to remain in his position, he's got to shift to reflect the sentiments of his constituents, which is what he did.
	And apparently the Israelis didn't like that.
	But, you know, Charlie Kirk can't control that.
	He's got no control over that.
	He can only kind of follow the sentiment and follow the trend.
	So we got to establish that first of all, first off.
	The MAGA movement is no longer pro-Israel at all.
	In fact, they're anti-Israel.
	Big, big problem.
	Which is why they put Ben Shapiro in charge when he's an Israeli Zionist zealot.
	But I think we're also looking at motives why Israel would have had a strong reason to take him out, even though I believe the event was staged.
	Most of the world believes Israel took him out.
	And while Max is saying there's no evidence of that, there's massive circumstantial motive means opportunity to it's not just this Ackman meeting.
	There was a whole bunch of stuff going on.
	There was this handler that came hours before the assassination who talked to him and said it was combative.
	So they kept sending their emissaries out to kind of feel Kirk out.
	And they weren't getting a good response.
	He was just kind of freezing on him for good reason because he was going to lose his movement.
	The movement has shifted.
	He can't control that.
	So yeah, they can stick Ben Shapiro in there to try to take over the movement, but Ben Shapiro is going to fail because the whole attitude towards Israel has collapsed.
	Right, right, right.
	No possible way Shapiro couldn't succeed.
	It's only exposing him as a shell.
	Joachim, I wanted your thoughts, but I found this conversation fascinating.
	Yours.
	Yeah, circumstantial evidence piled up on top of each other over and over and over again.
	This is a story of power and who runs the world.
	And obviously, Israel seems to have the most power.
	After all, Trump's in their back pocket as a total Zionist Jew himself.
	And so, yeah, I see this whole thing as they were afraid that the youth of America was not going to be able to be followers of Israel.
	I mean, you know, it's two years now of daily slaughter of the Palestinians.
	It has an effect on an actual human being and not some kind of robot like so many people, I think, are.
	We've been documenting it.
	We've been making documenting that they'll sell their soul, you know.
	But people with a conscience that have a moral compass and know right from wrong see the blood shed every day, the children, and it has an effect on a human being to want to stop it.
	And so, yes, I think we're seeing a human being in this guy, Kirk, that responded to, you know, the audiences that he had for the last few years.
	And he, as a human being, finally decided, well, I know the donors are coming in from Israel and the Jews, you know, the rich ones.
	And I'm, you know, but he took the high road.
	And, you know, I pray to God the guy's still alive.
	And we can, we'll be talking about that more.
	But, you know, it just goes to show that if you take the high road, you are at risk of losing your life in this world that we're living in.
	Because, you know, the power rules and power has no conscience whatsoever.
	I think high road, high moral ground equals sudden death.
	I mean, virtually, you know, I think they were plotting to assassinate him.
	And I believe that's why he faked his debt to evade it.
	Bibi had offered him $150 million.
	He would have tried to bribe him.
	So it was silver or lead.
	We have a report about it, too, here.
	If I can pull it up, and this InfoWars thing, by the way, had another dimension to it because Alex was talking about reports that they discovered surveillance devices on the Secret Service VHEC calls, and that Trump is actually worried that he himself might be subject to an assassination attempt.
	I don't think that is really implausible at all.
	I think that they're actually going to take him out if they have the chance about it.
	Here's Nick Fuendi talking about Charlie being bribed with 150 mil by BB.
	Let me get this.
	Yeah.
	And that Kirk Charlie Kirk was offered an effusion of $150 million by Israel.
	Okay.
	That would double Israel's budget, or excuse me, Turning Point USA's budget.
	Turning Point USA has an annual budget of $140 million.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Turning point, $150 million for one purpose and one purpose only, to shill for Israel harder.
	Turning point USA is already pro-Israel.
	They're not anti-Israel.
	They've never been anti-Israel.
	Charlie Kirk has in the past criticized Bibi Netanyahu.
	He has criticized secular left-wing Jewry in America.
	He has criticized a war with Iran, the famine in Gaza.
	He has never opposed Israel in itself.
	He has never explicitly opposed Israel.
	Israel offered him $150 million to be more pro-Israel than they already were, to be harder in their support for Israel, and in particular to support regime change in Iran and to support their ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.
	And Charlie Kirk refused the money.
	And I have independently confirmed that, by the way, I've heard that from four people.
	Four people that I trust that are in the know.
	So this is coming from Candice Owens, a friend of Charlie Kirk.
	This is coming from Max Blumenthal, who purports to have a source.
	And I have heard from a handful of people independently of those sources that this offer was real and that Kirk turned down the money.
	After Charlie Kirk turned down the money, Netanyahu asked if he would come visit Jerusalem and give him the re-education tour.
	Holocaust Museum, the burned babies, the beheaded babies, the one that Elon Musk took, the one that our Speaker of the House took.
	Anyone that's ever criticized Israel has been subjected to, he refused that as well.
	They offered to bribe him.
	They tried to re-educate him.
	He refused both offers.
	Yeah, so how many options are left?
	Russ, I love your reaction.
	Give us more of your thoughts, my friend.
	Okay, now I've heard the arguments of both sides: hoax or real assassination.
	They all have validity.
	I listened to your show the other day on the 15th, and all the things that you guys talk about could just as easily be applied to either theory.
	But I'm going to call the assassination theory the severance package theory.
	You know where they go to to, to Uh Kirk, and say you're out, you're no longer going to be running the show or bringing in Den Shapiro or whoever, but we're going to give you a sevens package and we're going to fake this event.
	That's one plausible theory.
	Personally, I don't think the Israelis and the Jews operate that way anymore.
	I think they're much more ruthless than that.
	And the second one was just, it was just to get rid of him, assassinate him, and that's a very, very clean in this situation.
	Because he's gone, he can't talk anymore.
	You know, maybe they paid his wife off, I don't know.
	Or maybe his, maybe his wife is just a lot of cognitive dissonance.
	You know about what transpired.
	So that's the way I see it, that that's kind of why i'm on the fence on on on what happened.
	But more and more i'm leaning towards the assassination theory, because I think they just wanted to get rid of him.
	They didn't want to pay him off, have him disappear, go live the rest of his life with a handshake.
	I mean, what is this like?
	College basket, college football, college basketball coaches?
	You know it doesn't exactly work that way, Russ.
	There's more and more evidence that's support that it was a stage event.
	He had this blood pack on his back.
	He had a little hose there by his neck.
	It was totally fraudulent.
	They disassembled the site.
	If it had been real murder, you leave the body in place.
	It's a crime scene.
	You call the cops.
	It wasn't real.
	They hustled him off to the suv.
	Not a drop of blood anywhere.
	Maybe they, you know, maybe they, you know, maybe they wanted to make it kind of look that way like the ring thing Russ.
	I don't get it honest to god.
	The evidence is so overwhelming, just unbelievable to me.
	And then there's the plane, you know, and they turned off the transponder and that that was like minutes after this whole event happened there.
	And you know it's 12 minutes away, the airport's 12 minutes away.
	You think that's just that's flying him out.
	Is that flying Charlie out?
	Is that what that is?
	Yeah yeah, yeah.
	Well, they may have, you know, they may have just paid him off giving him a sevens package.
	It's not impossible.
	Look look look his, his wife Erica, gets the award for worst crisis actress ever.
	Her statement, you know, so shortly after, was bereft of any genuine grief and then, because she was counseled, she wasn't showing enough emotion, they had her in a casket with a mannequin and she's fawning over rubber hands.
	Russ, rubber hands.
	It's embarrassingly bad.
	It kind of it kind of did look that way.
	But on the other hand, Eric is an evangelical weirdo, you know, and they sometimes these people just on another planet.
	Well, she was laughing, you know, off and on throughout her whole little uh stage performance and then she even kept saying repeatedly, and he's alive, he's alive still.
	You know she said that several times.
	So yeah, alive in heaven right yeah, he's alive in spirit.
	No, he's alive in the physical body form.
	Absolutely right, absolutely right.
	What about the?
	What about?
	What about this frigging uh patsy?
	I mean, come on, that thing is they?
	They're trying, you know, they tried to make it look like trannies are involved and leftists are involved.
	You know, started that rhetoric up which they could play on either side, either the real assassination or the hoax.
	They could play that, could play that.
	So that's what really stands out to me.
	The suspect is ludicrous.
	He didn't know anything about firearms.
	The idea disassembled a weapon and had it in his trouser leg is absurd.
	If he jumped out with a barrel in his trouser, they go to have punctured.
	Impossible Was ridiculous.
	Yeah, Joaquin, go, go, go.
	Joaquin.
	Joaquin froze up just at the moment.
	He was like, the whole story about this kid is just ridiculous.
	We had the attorney, the county attorney on television yesterday going over in minute detail all the evidence they had, the impression where he laid on the ground.
	They had the gun.
	It had a DNA on it.
	Then he goes on to say we're giving a fair trial when he's tainted the whole jury pool.
	No one could listen to this and not believe the guy was guilty of sin, but it was all bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
	Yeah, right from the very beginning with the governor, that governor Spencer Cox is right away.
	Like he just had the whole that was really suspicious, but that doesn't necessarily necessarily point to a hoax.
	It could still point to an assassination.
	Both, you know, both sides, both sides of the argument.
	I love you, buddy, but man, you're blowing me away.
	Joaquin, go.
	Well, and how about Kash Patel emphasizing 33, like the 33 green Freemason, you know, that Masonic number?
	33 hours.
	We did it.
	33.
	And FBI had nothing to do with this guy ending up in custody.
	FBI was completely out of the loop as far as him ending up in custody.
	You know, but he's up front taking all the credit.
	You know, Kash Patel, he's a huge disappointment.
	And he's playing right along.
	He's 32.
	Superficial and shallow as they come.
	He's just a front man.
	I can't believe he was ever even selected, Joaquim.
	He is pathetic and apparently even lied about his credentials and where he graduated and earned his degree.
	The guy's a phony from the beginning.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, and I guess he, what, two days or something, he was on the hot seat with the Senate committee and got into a few barbs with some of the Democrat senators.
	You know, Schiff's a terrible guy from California.
	Oh, yeah.
	But they got into it big time.
	Kash Patel is performing so poorly that I think they're just going to throw him under the bus.
	They're going to get rid of him.
	Well, the senator, one of the senators, I think it was the guy from New Jersey.
	Anyway, he was saying, you're not going to last.
	Trump's going to get rid of you.
	That's right.
	Let me say, Ross, I think when all the truth comes out that Charlie was forced to stage his own assassination to avoid being assassinated, and everyone believes Israel actually did it, he's going to emerge a hero because he was trying to keep himself, his family alive, and preserve intact.
	They may have made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
	I admit that.
	But on the other hand, I don't think the Israelis are nice people.
	I think they're just as soon as they can.
	They will just kill him.
	Realizing, well, they know they didn't do it.
	They may try to track him down and kill him.
	After all, everyone thinks he's already dead.
	We'll be right back with Russ Winner and Joaquin and Goop him.
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	Well, before we turn to other ramifications, and I think they're all seriously adverse for Israel and are leading to a tremendous awakening about its interference in American politics and its control over Congress.
	Joaquin has a new piece on the case for Charlie Kirk's fake death to avoid death by Israel's hellfire.
	I'll just read the opening paragraph and turn it over to Joaquin.
	In recent days, psychopath war criminal Bibi the Butcher NetNow is growing more nervous, knowing the entire world is turning against him and the state of Israel for murdering hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.
	Just this last week alone, Net Yahoo attacked six nations within 72 hours, as much as guaranteeing that a wider Middle East war breaks out with the U.S. dragged in, with Israel's most sod, the assassination kingpin expert by far, rocking up the most constantly taking out targeted adversaries, 800 ops from 2008 to 2,800.
	My God, I mean, that's 80 a year.
	And also with the most again as well, this may be yet another hit by Israel over the last five years alone.
	The Jewish state accounts for 80% of the estimated thousand total cases of assassination world.
	That's my argument right there.
	That's my whole point.
	They just assassinate people like crazy.
	Well, yeah.
	And now in the aftermath of this alleged Charlie Kirk shooting that would be openly scrutinized and suspected of assassinating the popular American conservative activists to ward off these accusations.
	Even four days after that dirty deed in Utah, Netanyahu, who keep posting these smarmy adoration messages on X, Charlie Kirk was a true friend of Israel.
	Rest in peace.
	Joaquin is insulting, insulting.
	But of course he wants to take advantage of the grief, the politics here to try and make it look as though this should all yield greater sympathy and support for Israel, which is absurd, but it's what he's trying to pull off.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, all you have to do is ask the fundamental question.
	He was definitely worth more dead to Israel and Trump than he was alive to both of them.
	So I think that pretty much answers it right there.
	And with a track record, historically, that Israel just wipes out everybody.
	That's just their MO.
	That's Mossad Operation.
	They're basically a kill squad.
	They got them all over the world, you know, almost every continent, actually.
	So yeah, we're finding out the truth about Israel.
	Like, I mean, a lot of us have known, you know, for a long, long time.
	But the extent of the evil that they've been committing for so long, now the whole world is finally waking up.
	So this is a great thing, actually, because, you know, this whole plan, this was a plan basically to use the AI.
	This is where it's really going and what we're really up against beyond the details of this particular case.
	Trump has married in a fascist way with the technocratic technologies, basically, to spy on us and to create lists and pre-crime lists where, you know, they, and then Palantir, of course, has that software.
	They have a lavender, you know, technology where they actually pinpoint IDs based on facial recognition and all of this.
	And that's how they've been able to assassinate all the people they're doing over the last few years.
	Well, so the combination is Trump is moving.
	Well, we're already in martial law.
	He's, you know, deploying military, U.S. military now and almost half the United States.
	We're moving toward martial law, emergency conditions, and he gets to use the palantir technology to create lists of all the dissidents, anybody that's basically, you know, against Israel's genocide.
	Yeah, they're on the list.
	You know, they even created an anti-Semitism law last year, or maybe even 23.
	I don't know, but they actually did it.
	They voted in Congress.
	And if you say bad things against Israel and Netanyahu, you're on a list.
	So this is what it's all up against.
	You know, it's, and here's another thing that's very important.
	You know, we know that the Palestinians are being genocided against.
	Well, I maintain that the whole human race is next to be genocided.
	They are going for the gusto of probably, you know, a half a billion as opposed to the 8 billion.
	So that means about 14 out of 15 people alive, they want dead.
	And they are using the technology and the Trump guy and Netanyahu.
	Yeah, they're moving forward.
	They're racing ahead to make sure that the population is depopulated and the AI robotics are taking over.
	So, you know, it's the replacement agenda that they've had in mind for a long time.
	And with AI going crazy now, I mean, Britain just made a deal with America.
	So they're using all that high technology and data centers and all this shit going, pumping up Britain now with the U.S. tech companies.
	So, yeah, I mean, it's full speed ahead with their agenda.
	And that's a depopulation agenda that's anti-human.
	We're all, you know, in the crosshairs now.
	Rush.
	Kind of my point that I've been making about this assassination.
	Now, we're all, you know, we've all looked at these staged events for years.
	We're experts at it.
	And so we kind of process this stuff a little differently than most people.
	And there's a hell of a lot of precedent for staging events.
	That's what we're going on because they just do it all the time.
	You know, why wouldn't they do it this time?
	But there's also a new precedent that I think Hakeem just expressed of just being ruthless and murderous.
	So that might be the new precedent that's kind of emerging that requires us to think about these events a little differently.
	Yeah, but this one is so blatantly stage-rushed.
	That's what everybody keeps saying.
	That's what Paul kept saying.
	And I've been looking at it.
	I think I have some expertise on this.
	Yeah, of course.
	And I don't see it as blatant.
	You know, I see it as kind of a mixed bag.
	That's just my view.
	You know, I'm going to express my view on these shows.
	I want you to.
	God knows I want you to.
	Here's State of the Nation.
	An open letter to the Zionist State of Israel.
	This is fabulous.
	They give a list of assassinations in which Israel was complicit.
	President John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald set up with Patsy.
	Martin Luther King Jr., James Earl Ray set up as Patsy.
	Robert F. Kennedy, Sir Han Sarah had set up as Patsy.
	Perfect because he's a Palestinian.
	Malcolm X, Abdul Abdul Ha Le Mohamed Ayaz and Khali Islam initially set up as Patsy.
	Mohammed Ali, after stricken via bioheaven with Parkinson's and unable to speak, Michael Jackson, Dr. McConrad Murray set up with Patsy.
	Mrs. Thomas Massey, cause of that still not confirmed, but coroner's report suspiciously never filed.
	Believe she was taken out to punish Thomas and give him a warrant.
	Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, set up his Patsy over which we disagree, but get this.
	There are many other mass shootings, each designed to push both concerned state governments and the U.S. federal to pass Drake Coney and gun control.
	1966, University of Texas Tower shooting.
	Charles Whitman set up his Patsy.
	I've always thought that was real.
	1991, Lou B shooting.
	George Hennard set up his Patsy.
	1999, Columbine.
	Eric Harrison, Villa Keybolt, Patsy's.
	2007, Virginia Tech, Sing Hu Chow, Patsy.
	2009, Ford Hood shooting.
	Nidal Hassan, Patsy.
	2012, Aurora Theater shooting.
	James Eganholm set up 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary School.
	Adam Lonza set up as Patsy.
	2015, Charleston Church shooting, Dylan Storm Roof set up.
	2015, San Bernardino attack.
	Say his rezof arbuck and Tafish Malik set up.
	2016, Pulse Night Club shooting.
	Omar Mateen, Patsy.
	2017, Las Vegas.
	Steven Paddock, Patsy.
	2017, Sutherland Spring Church shooting.
	Devin Kelly.
	2018.
	Parkland.
	Nicholas Cruz.
	2018.
	Winsworth Zenagon.
	Robert Bowles.
	2019. El Paso.
	Patrick Wood.
	2022.
	Rob Elementary.
	Salvador Ramos.
	I can guarantee you, based on my own research, about Sandy Hook, Charleston, San Bernardino, Pulse, Las Vegas, Sutherland Spring, Parkland, Pittsburgh.
	Pony.
	Absolutely phony ass shit.
	Right.
	Fakes.
	Thanks.
	Let me just propose a practical question.
	What do people out there that follow this stuff believe?
	I think a hell of a lot of them.
	I think that this whole idea of trying to blame a tranny guy with a tranny boyfriend or some bullshit like that and a leftist.
	I don't think that that's holding water.
	And I think there's just a lot of people that think Israel did it.
	So it hasn't been a very successful operation for them.
	Oh, I know, Russ.
	I love it.
	That's why I love the damn thing because either you know or you don't know.
	And if you don't know, it all rebounds.
	But why fight it?
	You know, why fight it if that's what people want to believe?
	Care about the truth, for God's sake.
	You guys, we care about the truth.
	In this case, it's stranger than fiction because he actually faked it.
	I guarantee you 100%, Russ.
	I understand you're saying on the event.
	This was a staged event, period.
	Absolutely.
	I've no doubt.
	I mean, I kind of see what I'm saying is I don't really know.
	I'm kind of agnostic, and I don't really want to fight the public opinion on this.
	I'm not asking you to fight this.
	Because it's wonderful.
	It's wonderful.
	The way it works.
	That Charlie Cook, this good guy, was forced to fake his ass.
	He feared he would be assassinated.
	Joaquin, I think, and I are exactly on the same page on this.
	I mean, it is devastating.
	And now everyone's coming out with all his concerns about Israel.
	He didn't believe October 7th.
	He was saying it was not un-American.
	It was not anti-Semitic to raise questions.
	He was saying maybe U.S. shouldn't be supporting genocide in Israel.
	He told Trump to his face.
	He didn't think bombing Iran was a good idea.
	He was now concerned about APAC's rollover our Congress.
	This is the American hero emerging.
	But then after all that, he took the severance package.
	Really?
	He didn't take the severance patch.
	He refused that.
	He wants to live.
	Severance packet, the severance packet is just walking away from it and living.
	How much do you think, you know, to get him to get him to cooperate?
	How much do you think they had to pay him?
	To cooperate with what?
	With this coax.
	To keep them over, you are missing the boat, Russ.
	He turned down 150 mil to keep shilling for Israel.
	He knew he was on the target list.
	I'll tell you what that is.
	But now we're talking about saving his life.
	So then the conversation is already a wealthy guy.
	He wants to save his life.
	Wouldn't you?
	Look, Trump did it.
	Trump told him how to do it.
	Trump did it at Butler.
	Trump was threatened with a real assassination, and he had a guy who helped him stage it.
	The same guy was there with Charlie Kirk.
	Right, right.
	The Secret Service guy.
	Well, that's the same guy there.
	That one's been kind of debunked, but anyway, I won't go there.
	Ross, Russ, tell us if you think it's been debunked because there's so many claims things that haven't been debunked.
	The guy who was in Butler is in Butler is the head of the service, was promoted to the head of the Secret Service.
	That guy was promoted to the head of the Secret Service.
	He wasn't in Arizona or where was it, Utah.
	He wasn't there.
	I've heard people say that, and I looked into it, and it's a different guy.
	We do have a photograph, Ross.
	However, the two guys behind him are definitely in on it.
	No question.
	They were definitely in on it, whatever it was.
	Let me see what I can do here.
	There it is.
	Salvation.
	The guy on the right has been promoted to the head of Secret Service.
	And he was there in Austin with Charlie Kirk.
	He looks like a completely different guy.
	I don't buy that one at all.
	I don't think so.
	I'm vaccinated.
	What do you think, Joaquin?
	Your thoughts?
	It looks like him.
	It looks like him.
	It's not a real great picture to really be able to zero in on it.
	But to me, it looks like there's enough of a similarity to say that very well could be.
	You understand Butler was fake.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	So Trump, Charlie, Eric has said Donald will regard Charlie as virtually another son.
	Charlie goes to Trump and he explains he thinks Netanyahu is going to take him out.
	And Trump says, well, look, here's what we could do.
	Been there, done that.
	There were 29 million shares of Trump stock that were shorted on Friday before Butler.
	That meant somebody was serious that the stock was going to drop because Trump was going to be dead.
	Trump got drift of it and he flipped the switch.
	The script, he faked the whole thing with the blood.
	We know it.
	We know it.
	That guy was the key guy in doing it.
	He told Charlie, look, he'll take care of it for you.
	And he arranged the damn thing.
	That's what the hell happened.
	Something like that might happen, but this guy's a different guy.
	Something like that, what you just said may have happened.
	Maybe they just gave him an out and said, hey, you're going to do an assassination.
	You're going to walk out the back door, save your life.
	That could have very well happened.
	I'll admit that.
	That's a reasonable theory.
	Joaquin.
	I'd like to take a little bit of a detour here.
	You know, one of the things that in the aftermath of the whole affair, Pam Bondi comes out and says, we're going to shut you down.
	You say anything about, you know, negative about this guy and this guy and this guy.
	We're going to shut you down with hate speech.
	You know, so she's attacking basically the First Amendment, free expression, free speech.
	And that's that's really where we're going, I believe.
	Yeah, because a lot of people think Israel did it.
	So that's how they react.
	They're ruthless.
	They're going into ruthless mode.
	No, no, the bigger picture.
	Divide and rule, divide and rule.
	So, you know, you take out both.
	You know, it's not just let's attack the lefties now.
	I mean, you know, that's how they stage it.
	They frame it.
	So it's always one group against the next.
	But the bigger picture is that the same controllers are doing this.
	It's all deliberate.
	And so the deliberation here is that we're going to lose our, well, I think to a great extent, we lost our First Amendment rights.
	We're being shut down.
	We're being censored.
	So yeah, that's the way I look at it.
	There's another aspect of the pilot.
	There's another wonderful aspect of the State of the Union letter to Israel.
	It talks about all the events in which Israel has been complicit as attacks on the United States.
	September 11th, the coordinated attack involving the hijacked planes, the field in Pennsylvania.
	This was an Israeli op.
	Oklahoma City bombing.
	Another domestic terrorist Israeli anthrax attack.
	Pauling 9-11.
	The letters that pass the Patriot Act.
	Beltway sniper.
	A series of attacks in Washington, killing.
	He believes they had a role there too.
	Eric Rolldog bombings, 96 to 98, planted in Atlanta and Birmingham.
	East African Embassy bombing, 1998.
	USS Liberty, 1967.
	I'll tell you, there's another, the Bally bombing, which appears to have been with a mini nuke.
	And of course, the Marine Barracks in Lebanon.
	That was an Israeli op too.
	And it may have involved a mini nuke too.
	Joaquim, your thoughts.
	Yeah, they're involved in all this stuff.
	You know, this is the biggest thing coming out because a lot of people that tolerated Israel are now, you know, it's basically the normies are waking up.
	That's the good thing about this is that there's so much evidence now, and they're not resisting the evidence being put in their face.
	It's very clear.
	They are the pariah on the earth and by association and all the money and support, America is too.
	So this is something we have to, we can't control the Israeli government as much as we can have some say as citizens of the United States on what happens in our own government.
	And we have to do a, you know, basically we need to root our government away so they're not owned, bought, and controlled by Israel and blackmailed by Israel.
	That's what we need to also work on.
	And would you believe right now they're like, what, 230 members a house in Israel right now in Israel?
	It's just insulting beyond words.
	Insulting beyond words.
	Well, you know, there's another story that I don't know if you've been catching this, is this big takeover by the Oracle family, the Ellison, what do they call the Ellisons?
	Larry Ellison, yeah.
	Larry Ellison and son are taking over, they've taken over CBS News and completely and brought in this Barry Weiss, who's basically a Zionist stooge to run.
	The CBS will be a Zionist network, right?
	Yeah, right.
	You know, CBS has been a little bit on the left.
	I guess, I mean, they're not a good network, but they've, you know, they haven't god-awful.
	They weren't very good, but they weren't god-awful.
	And then, but that isn't, that isn't all.
	They're also going to take over TikTok.
	I mean, that's that's been out there.
	That's awful.
	That's huge.
	And then you've got, let's see, I'm just looking at my notes here.
	Larry Ellison, this is Glenn Greenwald.
	Larry Ellison, the Oracle mega millionaire who has donated millions to the IDF, just had his kid by Paramount CBS to have Barry Weiss run.
	He's trying to buy CNN and then will now buy TikTok.
	Yeah, it's going to be all Jewish.
	24/7.
	Oh, Jewish.
	Lucky break for Israel as the support collapses in the U.S., he says.
	Lucky break.
	It's a discussion.
	Then there's a story earlier where the ADL CEO Greenblatt told the Israeli Knesset earlier this year how important it was that they quote-unquote capture TikTok talk.
	So now it's been captured.
	Yeah.
	So that's a ramification.
	It was a basket of free speech.
	They were the real thing, not a phony pseudo like we have on here in the U.S. Joaquin.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Israel has been able to get away with so much because they have total control over the press.
	They own everything as far as the press, you know?
	So, yeah.
	And now they're going to do complete capture of the press.
	I mean, you know, just no voices whatsoever.
	And then persecute anybody that's talking like we are.
	The genie's out of the bottle now.
	The people are catching on.
	So.
	Yeah, I think this has been a transformation.
	Call it what you may.
	This has been a turning point.
	It is a historic turning point.
	Yeah.
	Believe it or believe it, real or not, I don't care.
	Either way, it works to expose Israel and its shenanigans and its depraved state, and that it's a cancer on the United States.
	I think this is sensational.
	Absolutely sensational.
	Russ, I'm making you host, by the way, at the break.
	We'll go to Winter Watch and you can feature your latest.
	Joaquina.
	Have you guys seen that video of the guy that actually might have done a shot on him?
	Have you seen that?
	It was on State of the Nation.
	Yeah, you can run that.
	In a brown shirt, he's got a little mini pistol.
	That was my colleague.
	It was my colleague Dean Ryan who found that.
	The shooter at the side, the security guy shooting under his arm.
	Yeah.
	He's like on the side and he does it under his arm.
	Well, he's coming on the rail with.
	I'll come back.
	I'll leave with the video.
	I'll leave with that video because it actually shows some other things.
	It actually shows some other things of interest.
	Russ, it's going to be all yours, my friend.
	Take all we got a couple of minutes, about five.
	Joaquina, I'd like you to expand more about your article.
	I think it was important and we don't want to short it.
	Give us a little more of what you were laying out there.
	Basically, it's you know, it's trying to compile all the evidence that gives the explanation of why it was done and why it is in some ways protecting him to maintain his life.
	But the negative, though, I can't help but go because I don't see, yes, there might have been a bond between Trump and, you know, this guy.
	Yes, I think they did have a close relationship.
	And maybe Trump actually was helping him stay alive by having the thing staged.
	That is possible.
	He's owned by Israel, though.
	That's the problem.
	Yeah, that is the problem.
	The bigger problem is Trump's still owned by Israel.
	They got him on blackmail, you know?
	Yeah.
	All those cameras were running when he was running with Epstein.
	So, yeah, I think his health's going to take him out anyway.
	Yes, I do too.
	And did you pick up where I mentioned that the AJ, that interview with Max Blumenthal, when they published it on InfoWars?
	The heading was the Secret Service that discovered surveillance devices placed by Mossad on their vehicles and that Trump now fears he may be targeted by Netanyahu for assassination.
	That was actually the title he gave to it.
	Not Max talking about Charlie no longer believing in Israel and doubting October 7th, opposing the genocide, the attacks on Iran.
	They were emphasizing a potential threat against Trump, which I think is actually also real.
	You think?
	Definitely.
	A little bit of a redeeming factor, actually, because I don't have much faith in Trump, but boy, if he was able to part from his, you know, the control that Israel has on him, that would be great.
	But I think that, yeah, I mean, Israel, if they smell anything that you're going to do something against them, like the history shows, they'll take you out.
	If you're not sufficiently enthusiastic about Israel, your fate may be sealed.
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	now we return you to your host take it away ross Okay, so again, this is some good stuff to kind of take a look at the psyops part of this operation.
	Yeah.
	You know, the little mind games they're playing with people.
	And so the meme of the day starts out as Chat GPT shows an FBI agent at his computer.
	Create a text conversation between a mentally unstable 20-something and their transgender furry partner about murdering a public figure.
	So ChatGPT, meanwhile, this guy, Evan Gilgor, I put the alleged text exchange between Tyler Robinson and his transgender lover into Chat GPT and ask if it seemed real and genuine.
	Chat TPT says the texts are most likely fabricated, far too detailed and too incriminating to be real thoughts.
	And so there's the verdict.
	Can it be real?
	Possible, but very unlikely because of how detailed, staged, and incriminating it is.
	More likely, it is fabricated either by a human writing a mock transcript for dramatic effect or by AI prompted to generate a fake chat log about a violent event.
	The stylistic mix of slang and exposition and the narrative flow leans towards AI-assisted creation.
	Fascinating.
	That's so wonderful.
	God, I love it.
	Here's a break.
	And it really does give them away as far as they're fictionalizing all this.
	Because, I mean, if you've heard young people, they talk, they don't talk in full sentences, and yet this is all written out like a prose in a full sentence structure.
	Exactly.
	Why it's not, you know, very nice.
	It was like prose.
	And that's what, that's, this is what Steve Bannon says.
	Steve Bannon says, how did the guy have time to write a senet?
	I'm absolutely not buying this.
	Yeah, and then they make sure that all the guilt's out there in all this back and forth.
	You know, he admits everything, you know.
	But yeah, Jim, it is really, it is really encouraging to see people waking up to this type of stuff.
	It is, it is.
	Did you want to play a bit of the banner?
	Yeah, he kind of says the obvious.
	We can listen to it.
	You've just killed one of the most prominent people in your generation.
	And supposing your motive is you know that that's where you killed him, right?
	You assassinate him.
	Probably the first living thing you ever killed in your life, and you did in front of 3,000 people.
	You know, the whole world, this is a global event very quickly.
	You adrenaline, and you also know, because you tell your parents when they contact you, you're just going to kill it.
	So you know that your last moments on earth are now enveloping you.
	You know that.
	You just shot this guy.
	It's all the news everywhere.
	And the cops are either going to kill you in a shootout or you're going to kill yourself before they take you, right?
	So your last moments on this earth are with you.
	And you're telling me that you write your boyfriend and say, Dad's going to be so mad about Grandpa's rifle.
	He's going to be so mad about Grandpa's rifle.
	Dude, your father is supposedly MAGA.
	Your parents were supposedly good people that raised you.
	They're Mormons.
	So they're supposedly rock-rid conservatives.
	You just murdered the most important young person in the world in the conservative movement.
	You murdered him.
	You shot him down like a dog.
	And you're telling me that you're going to text here.
	Dad's going to be very upset.
	I lost grandpa's rifle.
	Aren't you kidding me?
	While you're explaining everything.
	Oh, we left it here.
	I left it here.
	I think I got a palm print on it.
	Anyway, I disagree with Bannon.
	I don't think Kirk Charlie Kirk is that great.
	He's very overrated.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Go back up where Lee was talking about this, Dr. Lee.
	Up, up, up, up, Russ.
	Go back up where he's talking about the chat thing.
	Yeah, here, just go through those.
	Overly detailed responses, unnatural flow, expository tone.
	Could you read that?
	Mike, I'm having trouble reading.
	Overly detailed responses.
	Robinson gives very long, structured explanation, almost like they're narrating events for a report rather than casually texting a roommate.
	Real conversations usually have more shorthand slang or broken thoughts.
	Two, unnatural flow.
	The roommate replies are very short and simple compared to Robinson's lengthy and descriptive ones.
	The imbalance feels more like dialogue written for a story than an authentic exchange.
	Exposition, explatory tone.
	Robinson explains things in a way that sound like they're giving background for an audience, mentioning rifles, clothing, engraving bullets.
	I mean, engraving.
	This engraving of the bullets was a manifest absurdity.
	He's supposed to have done etching on the shell case scenes.
	That requires a lot of expertise, special equipment.
	He doesn't possess any of that.
	It's ludicrous.
	It's just beyond belief.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, four, lack of normal texting style.
	There's minimal use of typos, abbreviations, or quick reactions like WTF.
	Oh, my God, I-N-K, man.
	That would normally appear in high-stress text.
	Instead, the writing is clean and deliberate.
	A mix of serious plus meme-y language, references like notices bulge U-W-U, jammed into a supposedly dire situation, fuel-force, almost like somebody wanted to insert internet culture into a dramatic script.
	Overall, it reads more like a fabricated script, transcript, or replay scenario rather than a raw real exchange between two people.
	Good.
	Thank you for that.
	Joaquin, your thoughts.
	I mean, it's obvious.
	This is just phony as shit.
	I think that the government knows that it's not going to be believed, and they did it on purpose.
	I believe that they want people to basically diss the government, revolt against the government.
	I think that they're looking to piss everybody off so that they go against the government and they go full force with the martial law and the lockdowns and all the rest of the heavy-handed bullshit, the gulag America that Trump is going for.
	I think they're doing it on purpose to piss people off because it's so obvious and over-the-top fault.
	Okay, so next we have Kesh Patel.
	So one of his pathetic performances.
	Updates.
	Turn the headlight.
	Yeah, doing updates on the Kirk's murder probe.
	And he just admitted the evidence tied to the Kirk assassination was quote unquote destroyed by who?
	Did he write a written note before the assassination attempt?
	That's what the governor said yesterday.
	And what did that say if you could?
	So what I'm able to say.
	I'm sorry.
	So what I'm able to say is I addressed it partially earlier: is that the written note we believe did exist, and we have evidence to show what was in that note, which is, and I'm going to summarize basically saying, the suspect wrote a note saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.
	That note was written before the shooting.
	Evidence of its existence, we now have learned, existed before the shooting was in the location in the suspect and partner's home.
	But we have since learned that the note, even though it has been destroyed, we have found forensic evidence of the note and we have confirmed what that note says because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI.
	What?
	You guys spell that?
	Oh, God.
	Aggressive interview posture.
	We had the node.
	It was, you know, the tranny lover had it.
	We're able to kind of recreate the node through, I guess, interrogating the tranny guy.
	So it's just like a conglomeration of bullshit.
	Joaquin, I don't believe any sensible person is going to believe any of this, but I'm not quite convinced that they wanted that effect.
	It may be, though.
	I mean, I'm open to it.
	I'm just not quite there yet, just like Russia.
	I think they really are trying to alienate the population from the government so that there's a crisis in the no longer having any kind of public trust in our government.
	I think they're actually inciting it purposely.
	Yep.
	Yeah, just complete loss of confidence in the system and institutions.
	Okay, so the official story is that a kid with a totally normal, healthy, right-leaning family got really into trans stuff somehow, even though there's no record of it, apparently.
	Made an excellent 200-yard one-shot kill.
	It's not admitted to the actual crime.
	Is the FBI going to release the crime scene photos?
	Changed his clothes.
	Oh, the changing the clothes.
	What a routine that was.
	I think you covered that one.
	Changed the clothes and broke down the gun in record time for some reason, put it back together and planted it in the woods.
	None of the footage looks convincing or like the right kid.
	We could look at that.
	We have mixed reports of the bullets had anti-file messages on them.
	We have mixed reports or if they had a bullet at all.
	We have no autopsy report.
	Kash Patel replaced the Utah FBI person in charge of this district a few weeks and months ago.
	Yeah, I think it's because the original guy wasn't going along with a hoax.
	Was he going to go along with assassin?
	At the time, I think they thought it was going to be real.
	At the time, I think they thought it was going to be real and they really were going to finger this guy.
	Also, also, America found out when he died, when he died, when Kirk died from President Trump.
	It wasn't even a hospital spokesperson that comes out with it.
	It was Trump.
	Okay, we got a Rabbi Handler and Charlie Kirk had a pointed interaction before the alleged hit.
	Israeli agent Rabbi Waliki, who gave Charlie Kirk Hasbar a coaching just hours before his death, says it really hurt Charlie when the Jewish community came down on him for platforming certain speakers at his last conference who were anti-Israel.
	I was not happy.
	This is quoting this guy.
	I was not happy that Charlie had given the stage to people like Tucker Carlson who were spewing venom about the Jewish state.
	So just losing control of the narrative.
	Literally, the only thing they can do is lash out.
	Yes.
	He really believed to fall, I believe, in allowing every voice to be heard.
	There were many prominent people in the America First Movement who would privately speak to Charlie and message him trying to get him to drop his support for Israel.
	Well, exactly, because we've had two years of genocide.
	Americans fundamentally are not genocidal people.
	They're not like Israelis.
	The American people are gullible as hell.
	But I don't think deep down in the heart of the average American is this genocidal rage of starving people and bombing them.
	I might be wrong.
	What do you guys think?
	No, no, of course you're right.
	Well, I don't even think that the Israeli citizens are really behind this whole thing either.
	The majority of them.
	Yeah, a lot of them are fanatical and they are brainwashed to have this Jewish supremacy thing.
	But I don't.
	I don't think so.
	They don't have the support.
	The government, the government's operating on its own now.
	I'm waiting for the Netanyahu regime to be taken out.
	Okay, so here's the Spencer Cox is really a sketchy character.
	The governor of Utah has played a major role in all this.
	Yes, yes.
	So when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on, and then he changes clothing on the roof and then changes back into that clothing at some point so that when he was when he was apprehended, when he was arrested, the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting here at UVU.
	So here's Kash Patel in the background thinking about Valhalla.
	This is such rubbish.
	So yes, yes.
	So when he was first spotted on campus, he had different clothing on, and then he's changed clothing on the roof and then changed back into that clothing at some point so that when he was apprehended, when he was apprehended, arrested, the clothing matched the clothing he had on before the shooting.
	What he said, there it is.
	So the government's when you're not being truthful, it is kind of hard to read from the script, isn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	This is interesting about Max explosing Trump's chief of staff as a Zionist.
	That's very significant.
	Max Blumenthal is so damn good.
	He's so honest.
	He's so knowledgeable.
	He's so clear and direct.
	Love that.
	He's very good.
	Very good.
	Now, the next story, fortunately, was thrown out in this congressional bill, but it was a bill that allowed the State Department to revoke the passports of American citizens that criticize U.S. foreign policy.
	The first run on this one was rejected.
	They took it out of the bill, but it's still out there.
	That's where they're headed, though.
	That's the bottom line.
	They're headed toward you speak up against the government, against Israel.
	Yeah, you're on a list.
	YouTube is taking down the video where Charlie Kirk's question whether Israel issued a stand down order on October 7th.
	I mean, yeah, but it's bad that YouTube did that.
	How disgraceful.
	Yeah, I mean, they're just a lot of things that Charlie Kirk was doing, and people were finding it.
	Yeah, I think they just, he knew he was losing his influence over this MAGA movement.
	You know, he's starting to look like a clown.
	No, he wasn't.
	BB was worried that the MAGA movement was no longer supporting Israel.
	Charlie was reflecting the movement, which was 65% supporting Abbas, Abbas.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	Right.
	Great.
	The crisis actor diversion of the Kirk scene.
	Did you see this one?
	I'll call you there a break.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is interesting.
	This George Zen guy up there.
	He has a one and a two.
	George Zen was a witness to the 9-11 attacks when he would describe seeing the planes at the towers.
	Then he got arrested in 2013 for emailing a bomb threat joke to the Salt Lake City Marathon shortly after the Boston bombing and was detained.
	So this guy's then he was detained in Utah claiming he was a shooter.
	Give us a break.
	Give us a break.
	Just right after just right after the incident, right after the assassination.
	And now he's in trouble because he had little kids on his computer.
	Sex.
	Yes, George Zen is Jewish.
	Yes, those people are giving the go-ahead signal.
	Yes, the government blocked this flight path today.
	On the 24th anniversary of 9-11, so here he is just doing his little song and dance diversion.
	I thought that was kind of funny.
	A funny incident.
	It just kind of almost like follows the pattern of the Kennedy assassination and different diversionary things they've done on different assassinations.
	By the way, if you have that video, that short clip about the security guy seemingly shooting Charlie, it would be good to show it.
	We haven't shown it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Here it is.
	My screen, my screen's showing up okay.
	We've been having some problems with the screen.
	The problem has been in the ultimate recording, not recording it, but I don't understand why that's happened at all.
	It's happened several times now.
	Go ahead.
	You know, I've gone into around the webs and they're not showing up on the screen.
	It's clearly on the screen now.
	Right, we can see it.
	Clear as they're being over the last right there.
	Okay, so some people are saying that this guy in the brown.
	No, no, it's the guy right here in the foreground, in the right foreground.
	This guy?
	Yeah, yeah.
	After the break, there it is.
	He goes down.
	I got to tell you, Kirk goes down pretty hard.
	I mean, the way he drops down, his dead weight, I wouldn't try this at home.
	Watch how he goes down.
	He takes a little bit more fault here.
	Counts in or not counting game violence.
	Don't try that.
	Don't try that drop at home.
	That's big time wrestling.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he does hit hard.
	Okay, I guess that's it on the around the webs.
	Tucker Carlson tells Pierce Morgan Israel had foreknowledge of 9-11, saw the attacks as serving its interest.
	And he was scheduled.
	Tucker Carlson scheduled to present a documentary on 9-11, and he called it off.
	For a week.
	For a week?
	Is that what it is?
	We'll see.
	Until tomorrow, huh?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I'll stop here.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Okay, sharing is not turned on.
	Send request.
	I don't know.
	I turned it on.
	I turned that on.
	I got to regain the host.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I stopped it.
	I turned it off.
	Right.
	It's okay.
	We're good now.
	Joaquin, go ahead and comment while I pull up what we're looking for.
	Well, I don't know.
	We're living in some weird times where every, what, two or three days, something else big happens.
	The misdirection wag the dog thing has been going on so big time in the last, I don't know, it's been progressively getting worse as the year goes on as far as, you know, one thing after the next.
	You'll notice that it's about two or three days and then another big event happens.
	So, you know, I think we're coming into the next misdirection, big headline.
	Okay, do you gentlemen see my screen?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, real deal media.
	This is Dean Bryan.
	I do lots of shows with Dean.
	We go back 15 years or more.
	He seems to have found the guy I was identifying.
	Check it out here.
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	So while the rest of the country is told to beware, be cautious of the Trans Tifas, the radical left, the lone gunman with the impossible rifle, or the killer.
	Just as I originally thought, was point blank.
	And amongst us the entire time, but more importantly, amongst Charlie.
	You see the guy on the other side there, too?
	The guy in the brown?
	Yeah.
	The guy in the brown.
	And that's his signaling, though.
	Signaling of the massage of Israel.
	I'll play it again.
	Wait a minute.
	I'll play it again, the smoking gun.
	Shoe brands have been lying to you.
	No one believed me at first, but now everyone.
	Anyone who ignores earring is playing a dangerous game.
	It's not just noise.
	Wow.
	How do I get back to the real deal?
	I'll keep working on it.
	Keep working on it.
	By the way, you know, Erica, her performance was just so awful, as I say.
	She's got the nomination for worst crisis actress ever.
	Running competition with some of those from Sandy Hook and Orlando who were just dreadful.
	And notice how cheerful she is, smiling as Joaquin observes.
	It's called Duper's Delight that people are engaged in this who aren't professional.
	Can't resist.
	I want to thank the staffers of this amazing Charlie Kirk show.
	She's a static broadcast from this studio, this chair.
	Every day he loved it.
	He loved what he did.
	I want to thank the millions of people who have shown their love for Charlie here in Phoenix, across America, and worldwide.
	I want to thank my husband's dear friend, Vice President Vance, and his phenomenal wife, Usha.
	His phenomenal wife and support is phenomenal wife.
	We'll be right back after this break.
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	Here's a clip I want to share.
	Pretty short.
	Minute and 16.
	This is just somebody who was there, participating, caught Charlie walking in, but you can see the blood pack on his back.
	Just take a look at this.
	Love you, Charlie.
	This is the rest of the right back.
	Bye, everyone.
	There it is.
	I'm building out the back of the old year.
	I'm going to turn back here.
	I had a hunchback.
	Six.
	Carly had a hunchback and they saw a man adjusting his cap right before the shot as if giving a signal to the sniper.
	The public are warned to be on their guard.
	These dark powers apparently do this.
	And, well, anyway, knowing where to look is what's important.
	I've got, if you want to give me another five minutes.
	I've got a little bit more on the Patsy.
	You got it.
	Let me switch back to you, my friend.
	Hang on a second.
	I'll make you the host again.
	Go for it, Russ.
	Okay.
	There he is right there.
	That's what he looks like.
	He's kind of a skinny guy.
	This is our alleged assassin.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I ask the question: this is rooftop ninja.
	He lands on the steed.
	Oh, I know.
	And he did.
	I mean, this is actually a pretty impressive jump.
	You know, before the jump, he kind of climbs up on the ledge like a monkey and then drops down.
	It's still a pretty good drop.
	He lands on his feet without rolling.
	That looks fake as hell.
	That really does.
	And, you know, we have no idea who this guy is jumping off of this roof.
	Could have been, you know, taken at any time, staged a completely different day, completely different individual.
	So, this doesn't prove anything in terms of who the perp was.
	And then, here's the original suspect photo to the left.
	The guy on the left is different from the guy on the right.
	He really is.
	He really is.
	And so, apparently, based on the fact that he's wearing that both these guys wear converse shoes, his dad turned him in.
	Well, you know, what's his name?
	Altman, the guy.
	He actually is putting up, I think, a million dollars to lead to the killer.
	And it's this guy's father.
	So, he goes, Yeah, so he goes home.
	Apparently, his dad confronts him for some reason because he saw a picture on the left of the guy wearing converse.
	This is what his son wears.
	Confronts him.
	Now, I've heard that the son has never confessed to doing it.
	He hasn't admitted to it, but the father loads him up in the car and takes him down to the police.
	And they got their guy.
	But here's the guy.
	The guy in the photos in the stairwell has built-up traps, trapezoids, muscles, kind of broader shoulder, bigger neck, more shoulder muscle, lean, you know, lean, looks almost like a little taller.
	And so, here's this Tyler Robinson.
	He's just totally different build, scrawny.
	You know, look at the nose.
	It's not the same guy.
	No.
	Oh, this is good stuff.
	Go back there.
	No, go back up the one about.
	Yeah.
	So this guy shot Charlie with his rifle and optic, disassembled this rifle, slid it down his leg, jumped off the roof, reassembled it, and left.
	I mean, the whole thing's idiotic.
	That the weapon is very difficult.
	I think this is a savage.
	It's not a Mauser.
	And when a Mauser can't have the weapon dissembled, it requires a tool and great torque.
	The kid didn't even look strong enough to dissemble it.
	Plus, it takes time to do it.
	And he's a busy man.
	And you just shot somebody, and there's all this anxiety and fear.
	And you want to escape.
	You don't have the time for this shit.
	And he's changing his clothes, Joaquin.
	It's laughable.
	It's laughable.
	This whole story.
	That's how far.
	He changes it on the roof, you know, instead of clearing out of there, he does and then runs across the roof, hurls himself up, lands on the steep miraculously.
	And I reiterate the point I've made many times now.
	When he jumps off the roof, you get crunched up like an accordion.
	If you had a steel metal in your leg, it would puncture your intestine, maybe your heart.
	You'd be dead there on the spot.
	Stupid.
	Yeah, you could.
	I mean, you could rupture your quad tendon.
	That's what happened to me.
	Of course, I was old when that happened, but you can easily rupture your quad tendon.
	The idea of running with that barrel in your leg is just so silly.
	It's beyond belief.
	So all of a sudden, he's just spotted with a t-shirt, which is basically a socialist t-shirt of some group in Salt Lake.
	You know, the home, the Salt Lake chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America.
	So, you know, they're there.
	They're trying to make him look like a leftist, yeah.
	A violent leftist, even though he comes from a good Mormon family.
	And I don't know.
	Well, that was what BB was saying: it's Charlie was killed by the Islamists and the progressives and the Trannies.
	I mean, such a stupid theory.
	I cannot believe it.
	So, here's a picture of the guy when he's young, young guy, with some kind of a BB gun, it looks like, or pellet gun.
	I think that's the only he ever actually fired with a BB gun.
	And then, here's Lee Harvey Oswald, similar pose.
	Yep.
	Oh, just this is just silly.
	See, images like this are ingrained in people's brains.
	People don't even realize it.
	When you see this Lee Harvey Oswald image, it's inbrained in your brain.
	So, all of a sudden, you see this.
	Oh, assassin.
	It's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	What's this?
	And then, you know, the pictures that they take after they're arrested, and they're all confused and dazed and drug-looking.
	You know, it's very similar between both of these guys.
	Has this guy even been seen in public at all?
	Has he been has he been?
	Has he been led from a car in a cop car?
	He's been taken down a no, but there's going to be Jack Ruby there for him.
	What about the court hearing?
	How'd that go down?
	Was he even there, or did they just kind of do it secretively?
	Supposedly, it went down, yeah.
	Is there any kind of any kind of footage of it?
	I haven't seen any.
	I don't think they even have proof of death, however.
	I don't think they even have an autopsy report or a death certificate yet.
	I mean, if and if you were a defense attorney, given the statement made by the county attorney in such detail, you'd realize the jury pool was tainted.
	It could not be held in Utah.
	Just absurd.
	Okay, back to you.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So that doesn't look like the same guy.
	They just got some guy.
	The only thing that's similar is the converse shoes.
	That's it.
	My wife and I, of course, have been politically divided since Trump came on the scene.
	He was showing me photos of the suspect and two different photos, two different guys.
	My wife was showing me that.
	We were in agreement.
	They're not the same guy.
	And she's even open to the whole thing having been a farce that it was a fraud, which I'm glad.
	But Russ himself is reluctant about that.
	I mean, I think we can all agree.
	We can all agree on the Patsy theory for sure.
	I mean, this is really blatant.
	Joaquin, give us more of your assessment of what the hell is going on here.
	Well, you know, my view is there it's divided and rule, left versus right, Republican, Democrat, and they're stirring up a trouble.
	We're headed towards some kind of martial law, perhaps even civil war.
	I mean, you know, supposedly all those sleeper cells, you know, I mean, they're going to get activated.
	You know, the terrorist sleeping cell, as well as the Antifa types, you know, there's going to be more trouble.
	And I think they're trying to stir things up so that they can do martial law and have military on every street.
	That's kind of where we're headed.
	And at the same time, they use the technocrats to make lists on all of us.
	So, yeah, we're under watch.
	So that's where I think it's headed.
	You know, tyranny in America.
	Russ, give us your take.
	Well, some of the news like this thing about taking away your passports really makes me nervous.
	Oh, it's outrageous.
	They kind of take glee.
	They take glee in it.
	You know, we're going to strand you assholes in Europe or wherever, Indonesia, you know, wherever you are.
	You're just going to be stranded.
	You're going to lose your passport if you're critical of Israel?
	Yeah.
	That's where they're going.
	That's where they're going with this.
	And it's out there.
	You know, it's not just us theorizing and fearing something.
	They tried to put it into the House bill and get it passed.
	And, you know, that's where it's going.
	It's before Congress.
	Things just ludicrous, ludicrous.
	Well, I think Charlie's going to look good no matter what.
	Candace, Tucker, Max, they're all talking about the transformation he'd undergone, that he was no longer a true believer in Zionism or Israel, that he was raising questions about October 7th.
	I love when he said that it's not an American or anti-Semitic to ask questions about October 7th, because he'd been there.
	He'd looked at that wall.
	He said every 10 feet there's a guy with a machine gun or an AR-50 that all of Israel is the IDF.
	Yeah, he could have made a presentation at your conspiracy conference.
	Oh, God, yeah, I would love it.
	I would love it.
	I would love it.
	And then that he was, you know.
	Charlie, if you're still out there somewhere, there's an invite here.
	Oh, God, yes.
	God, yes.
	God, yes.
	And that he was no longer thinking the U.S. ought to be supporting genocide.
	They wasn't sure he shouldn't be involved in the war in Ukraine that even told Trump directly to his face, he thought it was a bad idea to bomb Iran.
	I mean, this is a good guy who's coming around to understand what the hell is going on.
	He had a real awakening.
	Joaquin, would you not agree 100%?
	Absolutely.
	But his downfall was he had too big a following.
	And when somebody's telling the truth, the evil ones don't want them having a big following.
	Follow the truth.
	I had a friend who's got a lot of knowledge about Intel telling me that last night.
	He's saying something like, Jim, you know, don't want to get too big or they're going to take you out.
	And, you know, I just think about I've been around for so damn many years.
	You know, I mean, since 1992, I've been doing all this serious shit on exposing governmental complicity in JFK 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Urk, Boston, bombing, more and more and more.
	He says actually the government likes that because they like having the opposition to create confusion, conflict in the minds of the public.
	He tells me that the bad guys like the kind of thing we do in exposing it because of the role of cognitive dissonance when you can't reconcile conflicting points of view and it leaves the world in a state of uncertainty.
	That's a point I've made in the past is that the objective isn't to convince you one side is right and the other is wrong, but to create so much uncertainty that everything is believable and nothing is knowable.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this operation definitely has that feel to it.
	There's a lot, there's a lot of elements in this thing: the Patsy, these operatives like Kash Patel, the FBI, the governor of Utah.
	I'll tell you what, I'll bet you this governor of Utah ends up being a vice president or something.
	He's going to get paid off.
	What a jerk that guy is.
	You can just tell.
	And not very genuine.
	Talk about genuine.
	It's not very genuine at all.
	Just like the governor of Pennsylvania, also Jewish.
	So I take it the Utah guy is a Mormon, but that Shabiro.
	Well, the Mormons are into this whole Zion thing.
	And most members of the FBI, by the way, are Mormons.
	I don't know if you are aware of that, but they recruit very heavily from Utah.
	And what I love about this event is it's so small.
	Kill one shot, one rifle, one suspect.
	Everyone can wrap their mind around it.
	It's not like something as sprawling as JFK.
	That was one person, but it was so complicated, so much fabricated evidence.
	Everyone's got an opinion about Charlie and what really happened.
	I love it.
	That means they're going to keep digging and keep digging.
	This is not going to go away.
	Maybe, I don't know, ever.
	I don't know.
	I could see this enduring for 10 years effortlessly.
	Joaquin, would you agree?
	Yeah.
	And another good point is he was also bringing up the Epstein thing with Trump.
	He actually brought that up.
	So, yeah, he was a good guy, you know.
	And that's talking about things that aren't going away.
	That's not going to go away.
	The real cause of the cause approximate of his change of view is his movement.
	These people were waking up.
	They're the ones that were waking up and continuing to wake up.
	And this incident even amplifies it even more because a lot of those people think that he was assassinated by the Israelis.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's a good thing.
	Miles Smith has a report about it that is pretty good.
	Here it is.
	The murder of Charlie Kirk was, of course, staged.
	Let me just read you a couple paragraphs.
	Note the date to begin with.
	The alleged murder was 9-10, 2025, which is the same as a matter of numerology as 9-11, both being ones and nines.
	Why not ones and eights this time?
	I don't know.
	I guess they felt they had overused that.
	How am I one of the very few saying this was staged?
	It should be the default assumption of any current event.
	Actually, Alex Jones admitted in his broadcast today that many on the ground in Utah said the murder looked staged even while he was selling the event as real.
	Kind of weird.
	It's not really advisable to say the event was staged while you're selling it as real.
	Though it does help me here.
	Then he's got a lot about Charlie's background.
	Here's flipping to page six, which brings me back to the lovely photo under the title.
	I have to let it seep in your brain for a while.
	It's tagged as a photo from their wedding.
	At first, I thought they got married at a construction site.
	But then I look closer.
	That's Jerusalem in the background.
	Is that a good place for people who aren't Jewish to get married?
	You will say they are just that religious.
	I think they met in Israel.
	She was doing some kind of work there.
	Some kind of Zionist group.
	Here we go.
	Then we come to Kirk being a buddy of Trump, who had two staged assassination attempts already.
	Trump, who had just declared a National Day of Mourning and we got flags at half-mass in honor of Kirk, really?
	For Charlie Kirk?
	That's like flags at half mate for Grover.
	I remind you, even if you like Kirk, he was not Einstein or Mother Teresa.
	He was a 31-year-old kid who was a podcaster, never did anything memorable other than yap like thousands of other self-appointed pundits.
	He had no education, was not even self-educated, just reading straight from scribs or teleprompters.
	So flags at half-mast for this guy makes no sense.
	He flips down to also strange that Kirk was flown out on Air Force 2.
	Was he really that important and connected?
	How?
	I don't understand a 31-year-old talking head merited this kind of response.
	Next, we come to the video, which is as fishy as everything else to start with.
	It is a snuff film.
	So why are these things being released same day?
	That used to be forbidden.
	Shouldn't the family be notified before the world watches that court of blood squirreling from his neck?
	It is CGI, but still, you should be very suspicious.
	Do you want your kids watching this?
	What is stopping them?
	You shouldn't be watching it either.
	Since it's traumatizing, but of course, that's the whole point.
	It is the visible acceleration of Operation Chaos and the CIA, DHS, or whoever has decided the way it's going to be from now on.
	Your remaining sensibilities are going to be obliterated by a constant stream of CGI snuff films as all your fake heroes have their heads explode.
	If you choose to click on them, they will come to your house personally and project them on your walls and ceiling.
	Even so, the films aren't convincing at all.
	As with the 9-11 fake films, the filmer pans away to the crowd or to his shoe tops.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	The one on the side, he pans away right away.
	The second one, they stayed on him for a little while and he pans away.
	The third one from the left stayed on him for a while until he dropped to the ground.
	But the first one panned away.
	What's that all about?
	Why?
	Because they don't want you looking too closely at all this.
	They want you to whack your head hard in the face, then pan away before you can figure out it's fake.
	They've obviously planted a bunch of agents in the crown with cell phones to make you think this is citizen footage collected from some college student that just happened to be filming.
	But they are conveniently too far away and too low quality to confirm or non-confirm.
	Like films of Bigfoot or the Loch Nest monster.
	That said, I would say the films non-confirm, since Kirk's face looks distorted after they had a person shot like that wouldn't just slouch to the left in his chair.
	He collapsed like a deer shot in the neck, falling out of their chair hard immediately.
	But of course, Kirk didn't want to hurt himself in this acting, so they had to cut away.
	The bullet also had to pass through without obstruction from the next.
	That's not entirely true.
	The third one that we looked at earlier, they had him hit hitting hard.
	So, but yeah, the first two they cut away.
	That's true.
	But that's what most people saw.
	The bullet also had to pass through without obstruction from the neck bones to get a squirt like that.
	So it should see more damage than people in backdrops to the right occur.
	We don't.
	There is also AI CGI residue on the film with strange dots moving across his chest, Kirk's ring switching fingers and the like.
	Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
	His ring moves from his ring finger to his little finger.
	Okay, that particular clip looks altered.
	I don't know that it was CGI, but it looked altered.
	And I don't know if anybody can evaluate that, but all of a sudden his arm went black dark.
	It didn't show the show I did Monday with Danny Suras right here.
	He was emphasizing there should have been blood all over the place.
	There should have been blood on the background.
	There's no blood on the background.
	We got a new report as he's carried to the SUV.
	There's no blood.
	There's no blood.
	There's not enough blood.
	And I think that's very, very telling, very damn good.
	They didn't really let you have a good look at the blood that would have been there because they didn't really film it.
	And they did not treat it as a crime scene.
	If this is a murder, you got to leave the body in place for the cops that attack.
	They've come inspecting it.
	Not necessarily of Israel's behind it.
	But they took it down immediately.
	They took it down immediately.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	Joaquin, your final or further thoughts.
	Well, I think 2025 is the year of the reckoning when the truth is finally coming out big time.
	And every week we're going to see more glimpses of the dark truth coming out.
	And this is good.
	This is good because it gives us a movement now, a movement to counter the evil that's been going on for so long.
	And I say, either if you believe it's real or believe it's fake, Israel is being put to scrutiny, and that is a good thing.
	I think the outcome of this is going to be fantastic and a real awakening, a turning point.
	Russ, final word.
	And I think that we're going to hear more about this.
	I mean, there's going to be some scrutiny of this Patsy.
	He's going to have to reveal himself as a real human being, say something, be represented by an attorney, something that kind of, unless they kill him, unless they do a Lee, unless they do a Jack Ruby on him.
	The whole Patsy thing is such a joke, such a farce.
	No one's going to believe the official narrative.
	Everyone's going to have questions.
	And the deeper you dig, the worse it is for Israel, for Zionism, for the genocide.
	It's really fascinating.
	I welcome this development.
	I think its consequences are going to be extraordinary for the world.
	They can't just leave Patsy in limbo.
	Emancipation from the grip of Zionism.
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