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The Raw Deal (5 September 2025) with co-host Paul from CA and special guest James from Vancouver

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	I need somebody, not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I was younger, so much younger than today.
	Everybody's helping, it's so self-assured.
	Help me if you can.
	I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you please, please help me?
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the raw deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this fifth day of September 2025.
	Joined today by co-host Paul from California and my special guest, James from Vancouver.
	We begin with fireworks in the Congress yesterday.
	Elizabeth Warren was going after RFK hammer and togs.
	It was vicious.
	It was so obvious that she is a big pharma shill.
	Here we have one report about it.
	There are several.
	Kennedy embarrasses Elizabeth Warren.
	You took huge cash from Big Pharma.
	One lies through her teeth.
	Holy crap, Nick Sorato.
	RFK Jr. just crushed Elizabeth Warren when she started wishing vaccines at Pocahontas.
	Lost it.
	RFK Jr., we aren't going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.
	I know you've taken $855,000 from pharma companies.
	I'm confirmed in this job.
	You're going like this.
	That is, you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
	You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.
	I'm not taking them away from people.
	It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy.
	Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
	Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy.
	The question is, everyone who wants it, that was your promise.
	I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.
	And I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.
	Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that?
	Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.
	Now, Senator Water.
	Secretary, you want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data?
	Senator Williams, Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you did.
	I'm not taking them away.
	Everybody can get access to them.
	No.
	Yeah, well, believe me, the whole thing's so massively fraudulent.
	We got more here.
	May I come in, of course, that it's a completely false premise that we want vaccines.
	It's so disgusting.
	That's so stupid.
	Yeah, Paul, go right ahead.
	Yeah, add more thoughts.
	Who wants a vaccine that's going to...
	Yeah, no, well, I mean, again, that's all that really needs to be said.
	The whole thing is contrived.
	It's more Jewish theater or what my co-host over at FTJ likes to call ping pong for retards.
	Say that again.
	My co-host over at FTJ, Davis Luhrmann, he uses this phrase all the time: ping pong for retards.
	Ping pong for retards.
	Right.
	Because, I mean, RFK is no big friend of ours.
	RFK Jr. I think he's on the right track in this instance.
	Let's get more here from the expose.
	I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmacompany, Senator E. Reports.
	Voice sounding a whole lot like mine, actually.
	Here's another.
	RFK destroys Elizabeth Warren.
	Do you think your CPA is helping you save money on taxes?
	Think again.
	Most VPAs are tax depares.
	Hey guys, this is Matt Miller with Politibra.
	Senator Elizabeth Warren just tried to ambush RFK Jr. during the Senate hearing today, and they had a very heated screaming match.
	Watch it right here, and we'll break it down afterwards.
	Last November, while you were under consideration to become Secretary of Health and Human Services, Mr. Kennedy, you said, quote, if vaccines are working for somebody, I'm not going to take them away.
	No exceptions, no ifs, ands, or buts.
	You would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
	Then last week, you announced the COVID-19 vaccine is no longer approved for healthy people under the age of 65.
	In announcing the change, you said the vaccine will be available for anyone who wants it.
	Now, obviously, both things cannot be true at the same moment.
	So let's clear this up right now, Secretary Kennedy.
	Will you tell America that all adults and all children over six months of age are eligible to get a COVID booster at their local pharmacy today?
	Anybody can get the booster.
	I'm sorry?
	Anybody can get it.
	Anybody.
	So you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS.
	Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy.
	It's not recommended for healthy people.
	No, no.
	If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one.
	It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost.
	As Senator Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.
	We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.
	Is that what I should be doing?
	What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.
	You're going on.
	That is, you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
	You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.
	I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.
	It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy.
	Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
	$80,000.
	Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy.
	The question is, everyone who wants it, that was your promise.
	I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.
	And I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.
	Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that?
	Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.
	Now, Senator Kennedy.
	I'm not taking them away from it.
	Secretary.
	You want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data?
	Senator.
	Is that what you want?
	Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you did.
	I'm not taking them away.
	Everybody can get access to them.
	No, they can't walk into a pharmacy the way they could last month and get access.
	It depends on the state.
	It depends on the state.
	A year ago, they can still get it.
	Everybody can get it, Senator.
	So look, let's move on.
	You clearly are taking away vaccines.
	I've seen the list for what's coming up next, and that is the agenda for the next CDC vaccine panel.
	And first up is ratifying your COVID actions.
	Second is hepatitis B is on the agenda.
	So should Americans expect you to take away hepatitis vaccine access as well, even though you promise not to?
	She's such a big pharma hack and a shell.
	I mean, it's just grotesque to see her.
	Bernie Sanders appears to be pretty close behind.
	Paul, it's embarrassing.
	This Elizabeth Lauren is such a sham, so shabby.
	Her statement, I suspect, was written by a big pharma lobbyist.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, you know, my first stay in office, she would be firing squatted, that's for sure.
	So.
	Yeah, James from Vancouver, you're welcome to participate here as well, even though that wasn't our original plan.
	I'm pleased to have your comment.
	Well, it's a nice cat fight.
	Obviously, I don't believe there ever was a COVID virus.
	So I see no need for the COVID vaccine since there was no virus.
	Exactly.
	I heard presenters today on RBN say, we were way ahead of it five years ago.
	We were on top of it.
	No, you weren't.
	You couldn't figure out if there was a virus or not.
	It's a stupid puppet show for children, really.
	I mean, just picture they view us all as little children out there, and they're putting on like hand sock puppets, you know, arguing with each other.
	You know, it's absurd.
	You know, the whole premise of their, James is probably on the same page with me.
	There's no safe and effective vaccine pretty much ever.
	I can't get hard, not even with the blue pills.
	Will the salt chick work for you?
	Pay attention if you're over.
	All these people would be wiped out.
	Too political.
	Paul, go ahead.
	I was going to say, my second day in office, all these people promoting these dickhard ads would be wiped out.
	I'm so tired of them.
	It's just, we all remember what the internet was like when we first started.
	And now look at it.
	You can't go to any video platform without seeing one of these ads.
	I'm just fucked in.
	They're destroying America.
	Just an advisory.
	I don't want to use obscenities here on this show.
	Now, listen, we got another report about him dealing with another.
	My name is Brian, and RFK Jr. does not hold back when this ridiculous Democrat slanders him in front of the rest of Congress and, of course, the nation.
	Let's dive in.
	Mr. Secretary, thank you for your attention.
	In June, you fired every member of the well-qualified panel that was charged with recommending vaccines to the CDC.
	No one in your job has ever fired every committee member all at once.
	That month, you told the American people that you were, quote, going to bring great people onto the ACEP panel, not anti-vaxxers.
	Are you aware that one of the people you put on the panel, Dr. Robert Malone, claimed that the commonly used mRNA vaccine, quote, causes a form of AIDS and can damage children's, quote, brains, their heart, their immune system, and their ability to have children in the future?
	Yes or no, Mr. Kennedy.
	And Dr. Malone is one of the investors.
	Yes or no.
	Yes or no?
	Were you aware that he had that view when you appointed him to this panel?
	Dr. Malone is, as I said, Dr. Inventors of the MRNA.
	That's fine.
	That's not true.
	Mr. Chairman, that statement is not true that Dr. Malone made, just as it wasn't true when you wrote that, quote, African AIDS is entirely different from Western AIDS.
	Are you aware that another one of these new members, Dr. Levy, wrote that, quote, evidence is mounting and indisputable that mRNA vaccines cause serious harm, including death, especially among young people?
	Yes or no?
	Are you aware that he said that?
	I wasn't aware he said it, but I think I agree with it.
	You agree with it.
	It's not true.
	It wasn't true when he said it.
	It is not true when you said it.
	Secretary Kennedy, later this month, your new panel will meet to consider changing vaccine recommendations for American children.
	In addition to the COVID-19 vaccines, they are set to review recommendations for the hepatitis B vaccine, for measles, for mumps, for rubella and Varicella vaccine, and the RSV vaccine.
	These are common back-to-school vaccinations for children all over the industrialized world.
	If you change that, you owe parents in Colorado and across the country the benefit of some transparency, I think.
	If your panel recommends changing the vaccine schedule for children, do you anticipate that fewer children will receive these common vaccinations?
	Yes or no?
	What I would say, Senator.
	The obvious answer is yes.
	Should parents and schools of Colorado be prepared for more measles outbreaks as a result of that, Mr. Secretary?
	Senator.
	How about more mumps outbreaks?
	I do not anticipate a change in the MMR vaccine.
	It is an independent panel.
	Well, it's a panel you just put those folks on.
	Far from what you said, they're people with ideas that are completely outside the mainstream.
	I mean, out of the pharmaceutical paradigm.
	Let me just say, Mr. Secretary, all these vaccines that we're talking about today are free and accessible to parents today in America who have the freedom to be able to make that choice for their children.
	Will that be true after your handpick panel makes their judgments about these vaccines?
	I think that parents should be free to make their own choices.
	So will they be just as free after these?
	I assume they will be.
	I will hold you to that, Secretary Kennedy, because this is not a podcast.
	It is the American people's health that's on the line here.
	This is the last thing, by the way, our parents need when their kids are going back to school, is to have the kind of confusion and expense and scarcity that you're creating as a result of your ideology.
	I think it's critical for you to share the evidence that this panel will rely on.
	Will you give the American people six months or six weeks in advance the record that they're going to rely on to make these decisions?
	Will you make it transparent for the American people?
	All the evidence is transparent.
	Will you make it in advance transparent for the American people so they can comment on it?
	All the evidence is transparent for the first time in history.
	You were never there complaining when the pharmaceutical companies were picking those people and then running their products through with no significant things.
	You can characterize it any way you want.
	I quoted them today.
	What I said was accurate.
	What you said were lies.
	You just moving the type of thing.
	Are you saying that the tmRNA vaccine has never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis?
	I am saying, I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire question.
	I'm asking the questions on that question.
	I'm asking the questions for Mr. Kennedy on behalf of parents and schools and teachers all over the United States of America who deserve so much better than your leadership.
	He deserves a bonus from Big Pharma now.
	This whole business about the childhood vaccine schedule is absolutely at the core of the health agenda and big pharma profits, which is why they're fighting so massively today on the schedule that's been implemented in the past.
	Children, I think by the age of five or six, have already had 60 or 70 different vaccines.
	The overwhelming majority are grossly damaging to them, not helpful.
	Here's a man who's lying his face off to Secretary Kennedy who's trying to do something to straighten it out.
	He's put on much better people than the big pharma hacks.
	He has taken off the panel.
	And this guy is just disgusting.
	What a fraud.
	What a phony.
	The estimates, by the way, for big pharma profits are in the multi-billions.
	And I've heard estimates as high as a trillion that they make off of the vacc agenda.
	And of course, in the face of the fact that they're supposed to be free and available.
	So how can they be free when the pharmaceutical companies are making billions?
	How does that equation work exactly?
	You know, this guy should be, I would guillotine him, you know, right away.
	In fact, before I guillotined him, I would subject him to vaccine injections daily for as long as he could survive them.
	Like a couple of months.
	I would just tie him up.
	No, that's good.
	Every member of Congress ought to be subjected to the same vaccine schedule they're imposing upon the country.
	I think that would do wonders, just as their salaries ought to be a function of the average salary of American citizens and not greater than five times as much.
	Paul, you're making a lot of good points, but RFK Jr., in my opinion, is hanging in there.
	Here we have a whistleblower inside HHS and CDC warning of an active sabotage operation within the federal health department.
	RFK Jr. just completed his congressional testimony today.
	It was mostly excellent with one extremely grave misstep.
	But first here is breaking news of the radical Democratic Barch Nicks attempting to subvert the burgeoning Make America Healthy Again movement from within the federal government breaking.
	Whistleblowers inside HHS and CDC have just sent me critical information on the active sabotage operation taking place within the federal health department.
	Left-wing career bureaucrats are in total panic over RFK Jr. Shutting down their big pharma griff and are trying to take down the agencies from the inside.
	And they're using CIA to do it.
	Here's how it's happening.
	Queer CDC bureaucrats are distributing a CI manual entitled Symbol Sabotage to their subordinates.
	I have multiple whistleblowers with first-hand direct evidence.
	The CDC ranks are now acting out the CIA strategy to the letter.
	The walkouts, corporate media hits, fake protests, Senate hearings.
	It's all staged to systematically sabotage Trump's health agenda.
	Here's what's happening next.
	We must fight for RFK Jr.'s right the manual instruction boys to breaklessly slow operation by demanding written orders, pretending not to understand, carrying out acts that spread blame across as many as possible.
	Here are some explicit examples.
	On the street, sabotage after dark against a military vehicle.
	Do everything possible to delay the delivery of orders.
	Don't deliver until completely ready.
	Try to commit acts for which large numbers of people could be responsible.
	These are directives from the CIA to members of the deep state medical community.
	James in Vancouver, your thoughts.
	Yes.
	Anyway, I want to say thanks for bringing me on today.
	We'll look at, let's go back to 1925, 100 years ago.
	How many vaccines did we have then?
	And why?
	And now in 2025, I understand children by the time they're 18 have had, am I right, 70 vaccines?
	Is that the count now?
	Supposed to have.
	I'm sure you do.
	Yeah.
	Well, now, why do we need 70 vaccines?
	I mean, this is outrageous.
	And the levels of toxins in these vaccines have increased.
	I know I lost friends to the swine flu vaccine.
	I believe their hepatitis vaccine had the AIDS in it.
	The AIDS developed around in the early 80s, and a couple years later, they were dead by that anti-virus concoction.
	What do they call that stuff?
	I can't remember right now, but it was the supposed to be the.
	Yeah, yeah, it was the ACT.
	They were dead by that because I checked it on their graveyards.
	I looked it up down in Williston, North Dakota.
	And the whole family is dead.
	But these two individuals that I grew up with, I used to live at their house in, you know, we'd go down for band day, and they, you know, I was able to stay at their place.
	And they just up without warning, got this AIDS, and everybody thought it was for some nefarious purposes.
	But really, what they did was they took the vaccine for hepatitis.
	And then, of course, then the side effects happened.
	And then the ACT finally killed them about 1987, 88.
	So back to you guys.
	Paul.
	Well, again, you know, this is such an important topic, and it's been covered so many different times.
	And, you know, the whole thing just makes me so disgusted, so outraged, you know, because it's such a simple idea.
	Ultimately, it is a simple idea.
	They are poisoning us.
	They're trying to poison us.
	There's no other purpose for these vaccines.
	There's never been a study that shows that vaccines can confer any immunity at all.
	And most of the so-called diseases that they say we need relief from, you know, with their products are simply some form of poisoning.
	You know, in other words, the viruses, in my opinion, don't exist, or a better way to put it is that what they say viruses are and what they say viruses do is false.
	So, you know, we're left suffering under a system, and parents, okay, are suffering under a system where they are told by supposed trusted authorities, such as their doctor, okay, who's supposedly informed by, you know, his education and the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical establishment.
	They're told that we are to consume these products, take these products, get injected, and that it's going to be for our health when the exact opposite is true.
	It's the kind of just absolutely astounding and scandalous reality that the average person just can't wrap their mind around it.
	But again, I go back to the idea that it's just simple.
	They want to hurt us.
	They want to harm us.
	They want to kill us.
	And just I'll just end this real quick.
	You know, the other day, I think it was on your show or another show I was listening to, and the hepatitis B shot came up.
	And this mother was saying that, you know, right away in the hospital, they want to give their baby, their infant, a hepatitis B shot.
	It's so absurd.
	And the average person doesn't even know what hepatitis is.
	They can't define it.
	Do you know what hepatitis is, Jim?
	There you go.
	And you're an educated man.
	And I'm not faulting you, right?
	All hepatitis, all hepatitis means is inflammation of the liver.
	So why are we giving infants or anybody a shot for quote inflammation of the liver?
	That's what hepatitis is.
	The whole thing is so stupid and disgusting.
	And what they count on is people's most basic level of ignorance where they cannot even define the terms that they're using against us.
	All right.
	Oh, measles, bumps, rupella.
	Most people wouldn't even be able to tell you.
	Even tetanus, the whole idea about tetanus is totally fraudulent.
	I watched an excellent video on that the other day.
	So anyway, I'm sorry for the ramble, but you got the idea.
	No, no, no.
	All good.
	We got Dr. Robert Malone here.
	I'm talking about what's really happening.
	Yes, a unhinged young gentleman decided to open fire.
	We'll be right back.
	Paul from California.
	James Fox.
	Bye-bye.
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	Shit is currently empty, waiting for our host to return.
	Hey, James, how are you doing?
	Not bad.
	Interesting.
	I was going to say something about SB40 when we get back.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	If you've watched Jim's show, this is a fairly common occurrence where the break is not exactly timed correctly for him to sit back down.
	But yeah, to your point about the 1925, you know, comment, I mean, when did we ever need to form this country and make it prosper?
	When did we ever need any of these government agencies?
	The Founding Fathers didn't start the CDC.
	Well, my friends around the turn of the 21st century started dying from, I think, the SB40 that was in their, what do you call it? That vaccine for polio vaccine.
	They were boomers like me.
	And I got out of it, but they succumbed.
	So that is, in my opinion, of course, you can say what you want about it.
	I won't interrupt you, but I think the whole simian virus 40 is another sort of a fraud.
	But these things are basically long-term, long-acting poisons, if you will.
	Yeah.
	The way that they're toxic.
	Exactly.
	And they're going to have long-lasting effects.
	A lot of what people get in terms of vaccine reactions is just an anaphylactic reaction, anaphylactic shock that, you know, many do overcome.
	Some actually, you know, as you know, never overcome.
	That's what.
	Thanks for picking up.
	I was just having a disagreement with my wife who is trashing RFK Jr. who is speaking the truth and not the hack senators who are attacking him.
	Turning the page, we got Colonel McGregor making some astonishing comments about what's going on.
	I want to share with you regarding Ukraine since the end of the Second World War that promises to create enormous prosperity all over Eurasia and potentially Africa in time.
	And we are treating that as catastrophic.
	Something has to be resisted.
	Something has to be broken because we are not in charge of it.
	It's not our idea.
	We didn't think of it.
	And we utterly refuse to be part of anything that we do not dominate.
	That's essentially what it comes down to.
	So Donald Trump, for all of his rhetoric about settling conflicts and promoting peace and prosperity, is in the same business as his predecessor, trying to cling to the impossible position of global military hegemony run from Washington.
	And yeah, that's expired.
	Used by date has passed.
	And instead of recognizing that, we just keep going down a bad and fruitless path.
	That's also mirrored to a large extent in Europe.
	I'm going to get to a bit of that in a second, but let's first start with Zelensky because he's kind of deepened and dug into his trench a little bit deeper.
	Here's what he had to say after talking with President Trump.
	This is on his ex-account.
	Here, if you can pop that one up there.
	Basically, he's kind of reiterating one of the things that he said really all throughout this war and took the opportunity again to say, he said, first and foremost, we talked about how to push the situation towards real peace.
	We discussed different options.
	The most important is pressure using strong measures, particularly economic ones, to force an end to the war.
	The key to peace is driving Russia's war machine or depriving it of money, depriving it of resources.
	And then he also adds, We also spoke about the maximum protection for Ukraine's skies.
	Until peace comes, Ukrainians must not be at the mercy of constant Russian attacks.
	Russian missiles and drones must not take lots.
	Ukraine has proposed a format for protecting our skies for the U.S. to consider.
	So he wants some version of air cover from the United States.
	And then instead of putting pressure on anyone else, most people are too lazy to do this, but it saves homeowners a fortune.
	He wants pressure on Russia alone economics, which is ironic because President Trump announced right before this that he wanted to put pressure on Europe to stop buying Russian oil and then also on China and presumably India since he's got sanctions on him.
	But Zelensky's not even on the same page as Trump because Trump didn't say anything about pressure on Russia so far.
	What do you think?
	I think that Zelensky's prescription is global thermonuclear war launched by the United States against Russia.
	It's insane.
	It makes no sense.
	And my great fear is that there are people in Washington that don't understand that that is the inevitable outcome if we don't take the off-ramp and get off of this dead end road that we're on with Zelensky, because that's what he wants.
	He just doesn't want Europe to support him.
	He wants us to make it impossible for Russia to defeat him or anyone else.
	Well, that's not going to happen.
	We have no interest in that.
	And I think that President Trump foolishly listens to this man and obviously to people around him who tell him that we are more powerful than we are, that we are in a position to dictate turns, which we're not.
	And this man Zelensky is evidence for all of that kind of thinking.
	So the real question at this stage is, President Trump, what are you going to do to extricate the United States from this utterly pointless and fruitless policy that you inherited from President Biden?
	Thus far, his answer is nothing.
	I'm going to keep it up.
	I'm going to continue to do it.
	And if you really want to push this to the limits, you will end up in a nuclear exchange with Russia.
	The Russians have been very straightforward.
	We understand the conditions that they describe.
	None of those are unacceptable, frankly, to us.
	We do not lose as a result of supporting neutrality for whatever remains of Ukraine.
	We don't lose with a government in Kiev that is at least not hostile, if not aligned with Moscow.
	We lose if we are dragged into a war over a part of the world that is of no strategic importance to us against Russia.
	That's how we lose.
	And what you saw, again, over in China was a group of people, you know, what is it, more than 40% of the world's population, and probably at least half of its natural resources, mineral wealth, oil, gas, you name it.
	We saw a demonstration that they have all gotten together and said we would like to have peace in our time with the United States, but we will not submit to Donald Trump's bullying tactics.
	So he's got to make a decision.
	Where does he want to take us?
	Further and further down the road to disaster and potential war?
	Or does he want to get off the train, go somewhere else in a new direction?
	But see, this is also bound up with this financial system that we built after the Second World War, which is crumbling.
	You know, we went to Bretton Woods.
	We went off the gold standard.
	We have taken this thing called fiat currency, which has no real value except what we impute to it.
	And most of that depends on trust in the United States government.
	Well, I think trust in the United States government is at an all-time low, both overseas and here at home.
	So the question is, what are we going to do as this crumbles in front of us?
	Do we simply sink into a depression?
	Do we restructure the debt?
	No, nobody goes there.
	No, we give Besant orders from the White House, find a new scam, some new means to get around reality.
	So he's turned to these treasury bills.
	The whole idea of reevaluating or revaluing gold has gone down the toilet.
	And part of that, at least, is because no one really knows what we've got.
	All we know is that the French or excuse me, the Germans and the Italians who've asked to repatriate their gold, we've told them no.
	We're not repatriating all of it.
	So the question is, well, why not?
	The suspicion is we don't have it all.
	You see where I'm going?
	In other words, we're talking about the Ukraine war, but the Ukraine war that is mightily our responsibility, we build it up.
	We created the forces in Ukraine.
	We sent them into action.
	We've bled the country white.
	And yet, Trump acts as though this is something that happens somewhere else that has nothing to do with us, which, of course, is absurd.
	So we've done that.
	We're in very serious financial trouble.
	You can't view one in isolation from the other.
	So if we stay on this track, the question is: which happens first?
	Are we dragged into an unnecessary, self-defeating collision with the Russians on the strategic level, which could invite a nuclear exchange?
	Or if your neck looks like this, you need to watch this video.
	When you sit at your desk or use your phone, your head protrudes forward.
	The alternative right now is to continue on the current path and go down financially into total and complete ruin into something worse than the depression of the 1930s.
	So which is it?
	Which comes first?
	I'm not an expert, but I think it's pretty clear that's where we are right now.
	Yeah, and it's.
	I think that Colonel is by far the best political commentator in the world today.
	Paul, your thoughts about the options, the stark options he outlines in relation to our current foreign policy vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia.
	Right.
	So I like him too.
	And, you know, the clips that you select to play.
	I mean, most of the community, but I think it's so common with him and many others online.
	I just call this ongoing over-analysis of all these different hypothetical situations and outcomes.
	You know, and the most important thing he said was right up front, okay?
	Is that these people, their motivation for the wars that they engage in, the destabilizing policies and color revolutions?
	So the motivation is always the fact that they are the ones that either want to maintain control or they want to take control away from somebody else and get it for themselves.
	And it's just, it's a simple, simple idea.
	I remember as a freshman or freshman or sophomore biology class I had, you know, we've all probably had professors that they like to mix in social commentary with their curricula.
	And this one slide he showed stuck with me.
	And it was just a microorganism, some sort.
	We'll call it a paramecium, right?
	And he put the slide up and it showed this paramecium clinging to a large particle of food.
	The particle of food he was clinging to and defending against others, right, was like four or five times his own size.
	And, you know, the instructor wanted us to make the point, you know, that, and this, of course, goes back to, you know, when I was in college back in the you know, late 70s, that this is the problem in the world is greed and desire for control.
	And that's built in not just human nature, but it's built into nature.
	It's, you know, greed and desire for control.
	And I thought that was an interesting statement at the time.
	And I carried it forward all the way to today.
	And you see the complete and insane, you know, megalomaniacs and insatiable psychopaths that are determined in the course of human events.
	And it's just very appropriate, Paul.
	James, your thoughts.
	Well, I agree with him because did you see that million man march in Beijing just two days ago?
	I can see that the Chinese are pumped.
	They're ready to go.
	And they, if there's another outbreak of war between Iran and Israel, I believe the Chinese are going to march directly from China through Pakistan and right into Iran.
	And it's coming because of Zelensky and his strategy.
	Can't pull this off.
	The oil of Iran now is their common denominator for barter.
	It's worth much more than paper.
	And they have it worked out.
	And the Chinese want to have their road to Europe.
	And you're going to see, I would say, another Mongol evasion that could actually sweep Europe.
	Because bottom line, the Chinese got too many people.
	And this is one way.
	This is like the British Empire used to be 300 years ago.
	And this is China's time for movement.
	And they already own Africa.
	And I believe they transported a lot of the Muslims out of Africa into Europe.
	And you have the European people demoralized.
	They're not going to fight for Macron or whoever for Zelensky.
	So I would say that it's just a matter of time before the, and you saw the rapport.
	If you saw this Beijing summit conference and the marching, the rapport between Putin and Kim Jong-un and Putin and Xi Jinping.
	And they're all just one big happy triumvirate.
	Back to you guys.
	No, no, those are excellent observations, James.
	That military parade was the most awesome I have ever witnessed.
	As a former Marine Corps officer, I was astonished.
	You had these massive units in absolute discipline, 100%.
	Yes, exactly.
	We have nothing to compare.
	The whole American military wouldn't compare with one of those formations of a thousand they had there.
	Impeccable.
	Yeah, awesome.
	Awesome.
	One more point.
	One more point.
	You see those girls marching by.
	In 1985, I had a girlfriend who was one of those people.
	She was an absolute hellcat.
	We talked about things like the Korean War.
	She got so angry, she would spit right at me.
	This is exactly what's marching down the road there.
	They're ready.
	They're pumped and they're ready to go.
	Back to you.
	They are.
	That's a magnificent.
	And the North Koreans are tremendously.
	Yes, exactly.
	The Russians.
	I mean, the U.S., the entire West doesn't have anything to compare.
	That's why we place so much emphasis on hardware, on missiles.
	Yes, yes.
	Tommy Gwabhunts.
	There's a reason for that, though, Jim.
	I mean, come on.
	You know, you can have all the beautiful marching columns you want, but if you don't dominate the air, it don't mean nothing.
	They'll hide.
	They'll hide, Paul.
	They hid in North Korea.
	Okay.
	In fact, MacArthur got the wrong information.
	They were marching at night and they were sleeping in the daytime.
	And whether or not they were spotted by the F-86s, MacArthur got the wrong information.
	And my buddy was up at the reservoir in December of 1950.
	He landed with MacArthur at Incheon.
	He told me the story because this guy I knew, he was raised in China.
	He was driving a jeep down the road and he looked down in the ditch.
	This is up at the Chosin Reservoir.
	Thousands and thousands of communist Chinese in the ditch waiting.
	He actually picked up two defectors and he had them point his rifle at him while he was driving the jeep so they wouldn't attack.
	He brought these communist Chinese back to the captain of the base and said, they're going to attack.
	The captain said, you're crazy.
	And the camp was overrun.
	That captain was killed.
	It was a real, it was a, it was a real massacre.
	Back to you guys.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Was that that Chosan reservoir you're talking about?
	I told my buddy, you got to write a movie about this.
	He died in 1998.
	Never did do a movie script, but it was worth a movie.
	He was with the CIA.
	His parents were in the OSS in China.
	Okay.
	His family was tight with Chiang Kai-shek.
	And I got the whole, that's worth a show in itself.
	But the thing about it is, is these Chinese, these North Koreans and the Russians, they're ready to go.
	Well, again, I just would return to the simple, you know, the simple notion that is actually based in military tactics and technology.
	That when you have lots and lots of troops, it's just more casualties because of the weapons that we possess.
	Now, I'm not saying they don't possess similar weapons.
	I'm sure they do.
	Who's are better or more efficient?
	It's just a matter of speculation for the most part.
	But I think that modern warfare has shown sheer numbers.
	I mean, I love a military parade and lots of uniforms like anybody else, but in the end, there's a lot of terrain to hide in in Pakistan.
	That's all.
	If I may say, you're missing the point.
	The discipline.
	The level of discipline is phenomenal.
	That's what a military requires.
	You're talking about tactics.
	Yeah, they have just as bad.
	They have actually better defensive anti-missile missiles.
	They have better anti-ship missiles.
	They have better anti-submarine torbed.
	I'm not sure I believe that.
	Discipline, Paul.
	I know.
	I'm not missing the point.
	I'm not, you know, just with all due respect, you know, pushing back a little bit.
	The discipline notion, that's fine and dandy.
	But in my opinion, okay, based upon our past and based upon what we're capable of today, I don't think that they're a match.
	Well, I think we can agree.
	They're no match.
	We're no match for them.
	I mean, no, it's the opposite.
	They've no match.
	Deluded.
	This is the same kind of blunder that Trump is making and thinking the U.S. is a military.
	No, but you have to understand, though, that the leadership in this country right now is not is not us.
	Okay.
	It's Jewish.
	It's completely corrupt and they're trying to destroy us.
	But if you take that, put it to the side, our capabilities, in my opinion, remain, you know, and just in terms of what I am able to discern here from this reality fabric that we're all trying to untangle all the time.
	I just don't see the Chinese people.
	That's who we're talking about in the end.
	It's this whole thing about China, China, Chinese military.
	We're talking about Chinese people.
	Chinese people are not a match for Western man.
	Okay.
	They're not.
	In my opinion, they're an inferior version of what we are.
	There's no substitute for Aryans.
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea what Paul is talking about.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I want to get into it.
	We're talking about the quality of human beings and what kind of civilization we can do.
	I'm about to address that, Paul.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	James, go ahead.
	I agree.
	I agree with what Paul's saying to some extent, but let me tell you about the Chinese.
	If I order them on the border on the eastern border of Pakistan, I order my men, I say, you're going to crawl all the way across Pakistan through these mountains so you can't be spotted by the Americans.
	They'll do it.
	If they have to crawl across Pakistan, they'll do it.
	They can't because we got infrared.
	I know.
	I know.
	We'll get some of them.
	We'll get some of the points.
	I get it.
	You know, these points are well taken, but I'm making the obvious.
	Well, you keep saying what you're not getting.
	I mean, Chinese students, the Chinese people are not any more disciplined.
	They're more disciplined intellectually, and they have a higher average IQ than Americans.
	That doesn't mean they don't have like that's a myth, in my opinion.
	The bottom line is this they have this these tests that they administer, okay, as a rule, their students score with a certain there's a certain score, okay, and they measure that against this the scores of students from other countries.
	All right, so I have no idea what, for example, my IQ is, but my experience in life tells me that most people are pretty dumb.
	Okay, so again, when you look at what the Chinese have had to copy from us and how they steal intellectual property because they can't invent it themselves, that tells me what I need to know.
	Uh, the am I telling?
	Well, let me know what I'm telling you.
	I agree with you, Paul, in the sense that Westerners, okay, have an innate sense of individuality.
	Uh, whereas, uh, okay, when the uh Mongols uh penetrated so far to the west, but they they were called back, they immediately fell James.
	Do we lose you temporarily?
	He's back now, okay.
	So, this is all fine and Danny, but you're talking, you throw these terms out.
	And again, this is, I enjoy James, I'm sure, is familiar with me, and I'm familiar with him, RBN days, and I enjoy his commentary for sure.
	But these notions of like the Mongols are crawling along, sneaking in these valleys, you know, and this is like it's like recalling swords and shields and horseback.
	Okay, we the weapons that we have, Jim, as you know, and the weapons that we know about, okay, I would imagine that the United States government and military probably has stuff that nobody even knows about, but just what we know about, including directed energy, it doesn't matter how much how disciplined they are, and they all march in uniform, they're willing to do what it is they're told because they're they're disciplined.
	They're going to be cannon fodder, casualties.
	That's all there'll be.
	If we set our minds to it, in other words, if it's a fair fight with we're not hindered by some Jewish government that wants to run us into the ground, I don't have any, uh, I don't have any, shall we say, fear at all from the Chinese military or the Chinese government.
	That's just me, I'm just talking off the cuff.
	The American people are slovenly, careless, lazy.
	The Chinese people are dedicated, disciplined, and resourceful.
	And nobody likes your racism emerges time and again, Paul.
	I don't know.
	You're making stupid statements that are not true based on racism.
	I did listeners like it, and racism is reality.
	I recognize racial difference.
	I have a whole book that discusses differences between the races, and they are distinct and they are very different.
	And the Asian Americans are superior intellectually to Americans.
	Talk to somebody who works in tech.
	Talk to a white engineer or a Russian engineer who has worked in tech, who's worked in hardware development, software development.
	Talk to them and sing that song to them and see what they say about Chinese intellectual capacity.
	While you're speaking, James, temporarily, he'll be rejoining.
	Okay.
	I think when China was trying to make a leap forward, yes, they benefited from, you know, copyright violations, doing everything they could, but Zai Zhaping has actually succeeded in making China a modern industrial powerhouse and a military, one of the strongest in the world.
	Before we turn to James' discussion about 9-11, he has a lot of subtle observations to make.
	I want to point out that Mike Stone has a brilliant piece about the Ascension shirt shooting, that it was a fake, and that he's identified multiple reasons for drawing that conclusion.
	This is the best study I have seen yet about what happened in Minneapolis, and I agree with him 100%.
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	I'll return to Mike Stone on the Ascension Catholic school shooting, which was arranged for maximal emotional impact.
	it's very much on the order of Sandy Hook too because you got kids, you got them in a church, you know.
	It's supposed to terrorism that is nevertheless a form of terrorism, which is an event that is designed to instill fear into the target population.
	In this case, as in Sandy Hook, parents across America.
	Now, here's Mike Stone doing an absolutely brilliant job of dissecting how we know it was fake, how we know it was staged.
	He himself has 12 telltale signs comparable to what Brian Davidson and I have in our false flag stage event checklist to compare.
	Here they are: no blood, no bodies, no surveillance video.
	At Annunciation Church shooting, we have no blood, no bodies, and no surveillance.
	Chalk it up, fake one, real zero.
	Fake parents played by crisis actors.
	Your five-year-old daughter was murdered two days ago.
	So what do you do?
	You're a parent.
	You immediately go on television laughing and smiling.
	Perfectly normal behavior, right?
	We see it every single time.
	This guy, like, is Robbie Parker of the Ascension shooting.
	This is one of the most telltale signs.
	You don't have to be an actor yourself to spot the bakery.
	Just pay attention to the false emotion.
	Take people who really are suffering grief.
	The differences will astound you.
	This is absolutely right.
	You'd be in consulate for days, maybe weeks.
	You wouldn't be able to speak.
	You'd hardly be able to greet your friends and relatives.
	Fake, but they're out there laughing, cheerfully, smiling for the press.
	Fake two, real zero.
	Third, GoFundMe account set up within 24 hours.
	Sometime before the event even takes place, that was true in Sandy Hook.
	You hear a knock at the door outside a grim place police officer tell you your five-year-old daughter was just killed in a school shooting.
	So what do you do next?
	Well, if you're a parent of a child at fake shoot, you immediately set up a GoFund account.
	Here you have fake three real zero actors playing multiple roles at the same event.
	Another telltale sign of good crisis actors are hard to find.
	That's why you often find them playing multiple roles.
	The parent of a slain child will double as a member of a SWAT team.
	We saw that at Sandy Hook.
	Indeed, we did.
	The mother of a slain person played the mother of another slain person.
	Yes, one woman's appeared at no less than five fake events.
	In Annunciation, we have a witness claiming heard the held the hand of a victim shot in the head with another victim shot in the neck, but neither was bleeding.
	He sounds like Gene Rosen, fake four, real zero.
	Nonstop media coverage.
	Absolutely.
	Both events.
	They even set up an advance at Sandy Hook.
	They arrived the weekend before the event so they'd be there to cover it.
	Meanwhile, that would be five out of to zero.
	Anderson Cooper sent to interview the fake parents.
	Of course, Anderson, who may or may not have acknowledged being CIA, but we have no doubt about it.
	You never see Anderson in Chicago on a Monday morning after a weekend of gun violence.
	Do you know?
	He doesn't have time for that.
	He never interviews the parents of any child who is actually killed.
	But when there's a fake shooting, he pops up immediately to interview the fake parents.
	Get them to talk about gun control.
	Fake six, real zero.
	Evidence immediately destroyed.
	Immediately after a fake shooting, there'll be calls to destroy the building where it took place.
	Why you ask?
	To destroy evidence.
	That includes real events as well as fake.
	It goes back to 9-11 and even before.
	Evidence must be destroyed to protect the guilty.
	Here he said, too early with the Annunciation shooting, but is to come.
	So we have fake six, real zero.
	Eighth, evidence left behind at the scene.
	Remember the parked car with copies of the Quran after 9-11, the pristine passport loading down miraculously near the World Trade Center?
	Remember when every self-respecting assassin carried a copy of Catcher in the Rye?
	Today there's no need for such things.
	All necessary is a manufactured manifesto.
	Who writes a manifesto?
	Nobody.
	That's who.
	Only fake shooters at fake events, along with the destruction of evidence that occurs both real and fake.
	Here we have a manifesto, which he conveniently uploaded to YouTube, Fake Seven, Real Zero.
	Meanwhile, drills taking place at the same time or just before.
	From 9-11 to Sandy Crook, I like that.
	We always have drills at Green Simultaneous.
	Sandy Oak was, in fact, a FEMA drill exercise L366.
	It was even on the Connecticut FEMA schedule for Newtown that day.
	We haven't seen any evidence of that yet with Annunciation too early.
	So you still have fake seven, real zero.
	The alleged perp, immediately caught or killed within minutes of a fake event and some real two.
	The entire crime is solved.
	The entire life history of the perp written up, splashed across the mainstream.
	Details that would take days, perhaps weeks to uncover.
	Instantly at hand, fed to the public.
	The annunciation shooter is conveniently dead.
	There we have fake seven, real zero.
	Multiple shooters at every event.
	At every fake shooting, eyewitness report seen multiple shooters, but then without hours, statements of the witnesses are scrubbed, never to return.
	Meanwhile, other shooters are never found.
	The entire crime is said to have been done by a lone goodman.
	At Sandy Crook, there was even video of a second shooter running into the woods and being arrested.
	Never identified or heard from again.
	We don't yet have evidence of multiple shooters, so it's still fake seven, real zero.
	Finally, principals involved are former, current actors.
	Another statistical anomaly.
	If these fake shootings were happening in LA or New York, it might make sense that some of the people involved were actors, but the events aren't taking place in those cities.
	Why is almost everyone involved with Sandy Crook a current former actor?
	Why are the two principals of the Bulls Nightclub an actor in a game show contested?
	Why is a fake Visigate shooter an actor?
	Why is it main face in the parkland?
	Oaks, a person who worked on air for CNN.
	We don't yet have evidence of actors there, but I'd say finally we have at least fake seven, real zero.
	Paul, your thoughts.
	Well, Jim, I was just going to say, I mean, if people couldn't, if people want to read the article, they can.
	I did so.
	It's an excellent article, or you could just do a quick summary.
	I'm just curious.
	You brought James on for a particular purpose today.
	I just would love to get to that topic if you wanted to.
	Well, Paul, thank you.
	Yeah, I always appreciate your micromanagement, which seems something you can up.
	James, James, your thoughts.
	Yes.
	All of the details.
	What do they say?
	They shall make war by deception.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Swinza, the prophet of the art of war.
	I did my master's degree in that.
	I remember my prof asking us what's the most important thing in war.
	This is before I even read Swinza, and I said deception.
	And he just sort of looked at me.
	He ended up being my thesis manager.
	My oral examiner, that is the boss of the oral examiner panel, is still at CSIS in Washington, D.C. His forte is Cross Straits Confrontations.
	His name is Alexander C. Huang, H-U-A-N-G-Alexander C.
	And he's on Facebook.
	James, I think we got temporary glitch once again.
	I'm sorry.
	Go right ahead, Paul, if you want to comment.
	No, no, go ahead.
	James is broke him a little bit.
	James is frozen.
	He may have to call back in again.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I'm on now.
	Yeah, you are.
	Go ahead.
	That's how we do it now.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Oops.
	Go ahead, James.
	I think he was.
	I think he's got, yeah, the connection problems you referenced, Jim.
	Maybe that might not be a bad idea to cut to reconnect.
	So strategy, of course.
	CSIS, that professor gave me two semesters in war games.
	I had other classes in political economy, which was Alexander George's Statecraft, where you intimidate and beat the hell out of other states and practice hegemony.
	Well, so this is what happens.
	This is what Xi Jinping and Putin and Hu Jintao were saying, or not Hu Jintao, sorry, the guy from North Korea.
	This is what they are demanding is not to be bullied anymore.
	But you wanted to ask about 911.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Details of 911.
	Neither of you may have watched it, but last night I gave my our nap presentation following Richard Gage RNA presentation on Tuesday, where we're going to have a conversation discussion debate on Saturday about 9-11.
	And Richard rather jumped into the deep end of the pool.
	He was immediately talking about building seven and then one and two, which he hadn't extensively addressed in the past.
	But it was bereft of context.
	And I think a lot of those who were watching were just a little baffled as how it all fit together.
	So my presentation was really a rather an overview, including a whole lot of issues he did not address, including all four of the 9-11 plane crash sites, where I contend and offered proof, were each of them fabricated and faked.
	Two of the planes weren't even in the air that day.
	other two were still in the air after having allegedly crashed and i gave what does he say to that Pardon me.
	What does he say to that, by the way?
	Is he on board with that?
	We haven't addressed it, Paul.
	It's going to happen Saturday.
	I just didn't know.
	I was hoping if you could.
	Go ahead and keep going, but I would love to hear you do a summation of what you think the main differences are between you and Richard Gage and how he looks at it.
	Well, I'm in the process.
	The fact is, he only talked about building seven, where we're in complete agreement, was a classic control demolition.
	All fours came down at the same time.
	And then we turned to one and two.
	Was arguing that was done using nanothermite and conventional explosives, which I cannot endorse.
	But there are three major theories.
	The first being that of architects and engineers, which he founded, but it no longer represents.
	That was done with nanothermite and conventional.
	Then we have Judy Wood and Dews that was done using directed energy weapons.
	And then there's a scholars, my and other allied students conclusion that it was done using mini nukes.
	Now, I especially wanted to talk with James today about the Judy Wood claim because I explained then, and I was very strongly affected by James in exchange as we have on my other show on RBN Authentic News.
	That in fact, the design of the Twin Towers made them Faraday cages, so electricity couldn't destroy them.
	There's a nice illustration of a Faraday cage in one of my favorite films with Will Smith and Gene Hackman, Enemy of the State, where Gene Hackman has taken an old industrial building and designed within a Faraday cage so its communication cannot be intercepted.
	But it utterly destroys, it renders impossible the theory it was done by directed energy weaponry.
	Now, there are a whole load of additional arguments given why it had to be nukes and could not have been nanothermite and conventional or directed energy.
	But I particularly want James here to elaborate.
	Apparently, there were a lot of Judy supporters who were watching last night.
	I have no doubt that when the videos are posted, they're going to make a whole lot of slash and burn attacks.
	It turns out back in 2012, when I organized the Vancouver hearings on 9-11, before I traveled to Vancouver, I posted a five-star review of her book, Where Did the Towers Go on Amazon, explaining, I thought it was a completely brilliant compilation of photograph diagrams, you know, studies, maybe the best we have.
	But that while she'd ruled out large nukes, she had not ruled out small nukes.
	And when I returned from Vancouver, I discovered my review, my review had over 2,000 attacks on it, reviews of a review, which were from Judy's Praetorian Guard.
	Well, during the conference, Jeff Frager and others present a lot of additional evidence had been done using nukes.
	So I realized I needed to revise.
	So I downgraded it with three-star and added the results of the U.S. Geological Survey, which studied dust samples from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and discovered elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear van.
	Some of which only exist in radioactive form and a host of other arguments.
	And would you believe, as a result, it was attacked over 7,000 times, over 7,000 times.
	In fact, it got so bad you couldn't actually even open it.
	There were so many attacks.
	And this is when Google imposed a limitation that you could no longer write reviews about other reviews.
	But, Jim, I have a question.
	So you're going, you're retreating all this stuff, which many people we've heard many times.
	So, but you made a statement about the Farricate design made destruction by electrical means impossible.
	And I'm not sure anybody would understand that.
	Are you qualified to answer the why to that?
	Why would that?
	I mean, we all understand that it makes the communications, right?
	And electromagnetic waves, they don't propagate the same way.
	They're interrupted.
	But why would it make destruction by electrical means impossible?
	I don't understand that statement.
	Paul, your preemptive genius ignores the fact that that's why I have James here for crying out loud.
	Well, then, okay, pull your head out of your sun doesn't shine, Paul.
	I'm just trying to preempt these ongoing diatribes you engage in all the time where, you know, the elements would not have been without it.
	Have been a nuclear event, 35 sites.
	You know, it's like on and on.
	We've heard this before, and I've tried to tell you before that doesn't benefit.
	You have a different audience from show to show.
	You have no anticipation.
	You're presuming what members of the audience know.
	You got no idea, Paul.
	Sometimes you are just arrogant beyond words.
	Arrogant beyond words.
	I know.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Paul, shut up.
	I want James to address this.
	James.
	Well, simply put, we're counting on you, Jameskin.
	Can't hear you.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead, James.
	Think of making it.
	Tower was.
	I'm catching every third word, Jim.
	I can hear you.
	Now it was standing the steel.
	James, I don't think it's when you see going here.
	Breaking up again.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, go ahead, Jay.
	Okay.
	So you James will return.
	Paul, the problem is, you know, I think you're terrific.
	I think you're super smart, but you like to micromanage a show.
	That's where I get off the track with you.
	I get really bent out of shape.
	You should know that by now.
	If I had James on here to address this very point, I'd already said I had James on here to address that very point.
	And then you asked, could we get on to address that very point?
	Okay, but it's a personal thing between you and I.
	I get it.
	I'm just, I'm sensitive to what I call the radio aspect of it going out.
	In other words, there's times where whether you realize it or not, and it's nothing personal.
	In other words, you're very dear to me and so to many of the listeners.
	But sometimes you get going down a railroad track and there's no stopping you.
	You just keep going and going and going and going.
	And, you know, I just was trying to bring it back to what is germane.
	And that's why I wanted to hear what James had to say.
	So I apologize, but again, you're well known, you know, well loved as well, but you're well known for basically pushing a button or pulling a string, if you will, and then boom, you're off to the races repeating these things, which you know very well.
	And some of which I don't agree with, and others I do.
	So, you know, we go on and on about the nukes over and over if you want.
	I don't think that the nukes would have 35 years as a professor of philosophy.
	I learned long ago that if you don't emphasize or repeat crucial points, they may not sink in with your students.
	And here we have what I regard as a class.
	We have a class of an enormous audience, especially here on Revolution Radio.
	And to me, it's just a wonderful opportunity to review the bidding of crucial aspects, the crucial issues where we may or may not know what the audience understands already.
	And the fact that you know it backward and forward, Paul, doesn't mean that.
	Our audience knows it backwards.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	But I have addressed this before, and I'm going to address it once again, and hopefully you'll take it to heart.
	But I know it's difficult for all of us to change our ways.
	I get it.
	But again, the premise is not proper, Jim.
	In other words, we're not freshmen.
	And all the people that are listening, more than likely, the reason they're tuned into Revolution Radio is because they're already kind of tuned in.
	So to act as if we're like a freshman class and you're up there at the lectern, it's just not, it's not an appropriate posture to take.
	So that's just my opinion.
	Okay.
	Here we got James.
	Go right ahead, James.
	Okay, so when you have an electric field outside a conducting shell that's closed, what that electric field does is induce all of the charge to come to the surface.
	When the charge comes to the surface, the electric field inside the cavity is zero.
	So let me get this straight.
	So let's assume that the electric charge you're talking about, right?
	Yes.
	It's from a supposed weapon, right?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	There's going to be a weapon applied to this.
	It doesn't match the source, Paul.
	It doesn't matter.
	He is pointing the microwave machine at the outside of the towers, let's say, or somebody.
	And of course, that is the electric vector of the electromagnetic field impinges on the metallic surface.
	And if you've ever put a spoon or metal inside your microwave oven, you'll see sparks.
	And that's exactly what happens is that the metal fires the electromagnetic wave right back at the person who sends it.
	You mean it reflects it?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	It can't penetrate.
	It's in all the textbooks.
	Okay, interesting.
	All right.
	So, because I'm just trying to make it real world so people wrap their minds around.
	So it's not just theory.
	So the supposition, according to, for example, Judy Woods and others, it believed that so-called directed energy was used.
	The supposition is that this directed energy was applied in some sort of a focused manner towards or onto the towers, which you and Jim are characterizing as a large, basically a large rectangular Faraday cage.
	And you're saying that the reason that this weapon, not that it may or may not have been used, but it wouldn't be possible for it to cause the collapse.
	And I would agree with that.
	But I think it would be possible for it to pulverize the concrete.
	Because in my opinion, that's the only explanation.
	You cannot have a nuke, small or large or mini or whatever it is, in the basement.
	And somehow this nuke travels upwards and then pulverizes each individual floor and the concrete, causing it to jet outward like we saw on the film.
	I believe that can only be done.
	Paul, this is good.
	We're going to be returning shortly with James from Vancouver and Paul from California.
	be right back.
	We'll be right back.
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	Even the government admits that 9-11 was a conspiracy.
	But did you know that it was an inside job?
	That Osaba had nothing to do with it.
	That the Twin Towers were blown apart by a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes.
	That Building 7 collapsed seven hours later because of explosives planted in the building.
	Barry Jennings was there.
	He heard them go off and felt himself stepping over dead people.
	The U.S. Geological Survey conducted studies of dust gathered from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Ironically, that means the government's own evidence contradicts the government's official position.
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	now we return you to your host i've been showing some images here including that one there Go back that one with all that dust.
	I will, Paul.
	I will.
	That's just now the molecular dissociation of some of the core columns of the North Tower, which Judy attributes to directed energy weaponry.
	We had, of course, that one there.
	Millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, which, by the way, is the conversion of materials into very fine dust as a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
	Oh, please.
	Okay.
	But I just want to say that.
	Okay, so look at it.
	Look at hang on.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Just a minute.
	You see all that dust there?
	In order to do that, you got to get a million degrees Kelvin inside the buildings to get at that concrete.
	Okay.
	You can only get a million degrees Kelvin from a nuke.
	You can't get it from a chemical agent.
	And wait.
	Hang on.
	And I want to draw your attention.
	Get your pen and paper out.
	Special Atomic Demolition Munition, XM129.
	Portable Nuke.
	It's on the internet.
	You can find it.
	Special Atomic Demolition Munition, XM129, and XM159.
	Atomic Demolition Charges.
	Introduced in the 1960s to the 1980s, but never used in combat.
	There it is in its carrying bag and in its hard-carrying case.
	Okay, so you could put one.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You want me to do this demolition or what?
	Paul doesn't believe in nukes.
	I don't get that.
	I don't get that for the moment.
	Okay.
	There's a problem with some of these suppositions.
	So, for example, this thing about a thousand degrees Kelvin or whatever it is you're spouting, right?
	A million degrees.
	Okay, again, I think this is completely made up.
	First of all, a million degrees Kelvin isn't even possible.
	But secondly, anybody can turn.
	I don't know how on earth you, unless it was imaginary.
	Metheria gases.
	Electric energy, the kinetic energy is equal to the Boltzmann constant times the temperature.
	Okay, how are they going to imagine this?
	I've had these discussions with a guy who has a master's degree in physics.
	And of course, what he has told me more than once, and again, people would, many people would probably agree out there.
	A lot of what we are told from so-called science is a lot of fraud.
	I asked him one time how they measure all these sorts of temperatures.
	And he says, you know, that's a good question.
	I don't have any idea.
	And the fact of the matter is, it's a supposition in many cases.
	There's no instruments that can measure a million degrees.
	But let me just make one point.
	You can turn it on.
	What about the sun inside?
	The sun is bull.
	Okay, look, the ideas about the sun doesn't exist.
	It's total bullshit.
	The sun is not what we are told it is.
	It's not black.
	Paul.
	Okay, look.
	Don't wander off into the weeds.
	I'm going to make a fucking simple point.
	You want to turn concrete into dust?
	I've seen it in person.
	You can do it with a sledgehammer.
	I've been in order to do the argument.
	I would say I consider that.
	I've heard you before, okay?
	I've heard you before in other radio stations.
	All right.
	I know.
	So here we are together.
	All right.
	In order to create that dust, you need a million degrees Kelvin.
	Nitroglycerin won't do it.
	That's in the search.
	Nitroglycerin won't do it.
	I calculated the temperature.
	I would imagine directly.
	What is the velocity of nitroglycerin?
	Come on, genius.
	What's the muscle velocity of nitroglycerin?
	You don't know.
	Well, I don't do is look it up.
	If I looked it up, if I looked it up on Wikia, I'll suddenly know I'm smart because I just look something up.
	Just spouting statistics doesn't mean intelligence.
	Okay.
	You're making assertions on which, in my opinion, there aren't really a rational basis.
	If you want to break up concrete or pulverize concrete, there's many mechanical ways to do it.
	I have no idea how this was done, and neither do you, and neither does Jim.
	I think it's an amazing event by any measure.
	And by the way, Jim, if you've ever worked in construction, you know concrete or cement is amazing.
	It comes in a bag.
	It's basically why I made a huge mistake.
	I meant to remove Paul and I inadvertently removed James.
	And I'm not a mistake.
	I removed him.
	I may not get him back.
	You're just showing your worst virtue, your worst vice, talking over me, trying to micromanage a show, making assumptions no one else would buy, non-existent nukes, impossibility of scientific research on subjects, denying the character of the sun.
	I mean, you don't know what the sun is.
	You've been told what it is.
	Puts you in a very unusual category with regard to your approach to certain subjects.
	I'm sorry to say incompetent in my opinion.
	Okay, look, the bottom line is all most people only know what they've been told.
	They have no other rational explanation for it.
	They can't articulate their position.
	They can just repeat.
	So, in other words, if somebody says to you, what is the sun?
	How does it work?
	How does it produce heat, light, and energy?
	Nobody knows this answer.
	Scientists will spout out some garbage about fusion and so forth.
	Not only is that incorrect, it's completely impossible to prove.
	Oh, most people that are intelligent really think that the sun is an amazing thing.
	It's probably some form of a capacitor.
	I really consider here by it's not a blunder, Jim.
	The list.
	So there it is.
	It's not a blunder.
	And if you'll add some more color to this, James is an expert in this.
	Oh, he's a supposed expert.
	Paul, you're a pseudo-expert on virtually everything.
	I'm sorry to say.
	Well, that's an opinion that you hold.
	I'm going to take you out, Paul.
	I'm sorry.
	Why?
	I'm taking you out.
	Wow.
	Let me continue to explain here what we have going.
	The conversion of the buildings into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, which was, as I say, this a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
	Here we had Donald Trump, a first person allowing the world to contest the official version of the attacks of 9-11 on television that very day.
	After having noted the engineers who built the Dwyn Towers were now working for him, he declared on New York Channel 9, it was impossible that Boeing's going to burst through the steel structures of the towers.
	He continued saying it was also impossible that Boeing's going to cause the towers to collapse.
	He concluded by affirming there had to be other factors of which we were as yet unaware, namely bombs.
	Donald, you're probably the best known builder, particularly of great buildings in the city.
	There's a great deal of question about whether or not the damage and the ultimate destruction of the buildings was caused by the airplanes, by architectural defect, or possibly by bombs or aftershocks.
	Do you have any thoughts on that?
	Well, it was an architectural defect.
	You know, the World Trade Center was always known as a very, very strong building.
	Don't forget, that took a big bomb in the basement.
	Now, the basement is the most vulnerable place because that's your foundation, and it withstood that.
	And I got to see that area about three or four days after it took place because one of my structural engineers actually took me for a tour because he did the building.
	And I said, I can't believe it.
	The building was standing solid, and half of the columns were blown out.
	I mean, so this was an unbelievably powerful building.
	If you know anything about structure, it was one of the first buildings that was built from the outside.
	The steel.
	The reason the World Trade Center had such narrow windows is that in between all the windows, you had the steel on the outside.
	So you had to see on the outside of the building.
	That's why when I first looked, and you had big, heavy I-beams, when I first looked at it, I couldn't believe it because there was a hole in the steel.
	And this is steel that was, you remember the width of the windows in the World Trade Center, folks?
	I think, you know, if you were ever up there, they were quite narrow.
	And in between was this heavy steel.
	I said, how could a plane, even a plane, even a 767 or 747 or whatever it might have been, how could it possibly go through the steel?
	I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that wall.
	Most buildings are built with the steel is on the inside around the elevator shaft.
	This one was built from the outside, which is the strongest structure you can have.
	And it was almost just like a can of soup.
	You know, Donna, we were looking at pictures all morning long of that plane coming into building number two.
	And when you see that approach the far side, and then all of a sudden, within a matter of millisecond, the explosion pops out the other side.
	Right.
	I just think that it was a plane with more than just fuel.
	I think, obviously, there were very big planes.
	They were going very rapidly because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Meanwhile, Heinz Palmer has done brilliant work.
	There are many others.
	There's Dmitry Karasov, Jeff Rager, Joe Olson, Jim Dean, Gordon Duff, Veterans Today, has 50 studies supporting the use of nukes.
	Where it was in the sub-basement, and Trump wasn't quite right.
	It wasn't external like a can of soup.
	It was a tube within a tube surrounding the core columns of 47 core columns.
	And the destruction went from the bottom up for the tube within the tube.
	And then what we witnessed externally was from the top down.
	It was an extraordinarily sophisticated event.
	They had to find a way to destroy the twin towers that did not damage the bathtub, which was a moat within which the towers were constructed to protect from the flow of Hudson River water beneath lower Manhattan, the most valuable real estate in the world.
	So they had to find a very ingenious method that would, in essence, destroy the buildings before they could collapse.
	So there was no collapse.
	We did see a collapse, of course, with building seven, all the floors coming down at the same time.
	And you had a pile of debris equal to 12% of the original height of 47 floors, 5.5 floors of debris.
	It was there.
	But with the twin towers, they were being blown apart from the top down, so there was nothing left.
	There was nothing to make a pile of debris, which had it been 12% of 110%, would have been 13.5 floors.
	Father Frank Morales from St. Mark's Episcopal Church was a first responder who came on my shows twice to report that the twin towers were destroyed two or even slightly below ground level, slightly below ground level.
	Preposterous if there had been any kind of collapse.
	And most certainly, it cannot have been done with nanothermite and conventional explosive, which would have left a massive pile of debris.
	Meanwhile, it's also true that toasted cars are an effect of the currents from the radiation from the way it was destroyed breaking through the Faraday cage, you know, given its destruction to damage the toasted cars.
	Now, here, where James, and I'll bring him back, was explaining, a Faraday cage or Faraday shield is an enclosure used to block some electromagnetic fields.
	A Faraday shield may be formed by continuous covering of conducting material, or in the case of a Faraday cage, by a mesh of such material.
	It does not have to be completely enclosed.
	A bird cage could function as a Faraday cage.
	Here you have a further description.
	Here's a Faraday cage in the absence of an electrical field.
	The charged particles in the wall of the Faraday cage respond to an applied electrical field, where electrical field generated inside the wall cancel out the applied field, neutralizing the interior of the cage.
	As I said, an enemy of the state, wonderful film, Gene Hackman constructs a Faraday cage inside an abandoned building, and it eventually has to be destroyed.
	But that's a wonderful illustration.
	Meanwhile, we had debris ejected from the North Tower at a 45-degree angle, which would have been impossible on nanothermite and conventional explosives or even with directed energy weaponry.
	Thus, you have the winter garden where dews and nanothermite go to die.
	Here are key scientific points.
	Jet fuel fires, even if they burn hot enough and long enough, would cause a building to sag and gradually collapse.
	Jet fuel could not have ejected 300 tons up at a 45-degree angle at 600 feet outward into the winter garden.
	To explode steel, an explosive needs to have a detonation velocity of 6,100 meters per second.
	To explode cement, a detonation velocity of 3,200 meters per second.
	Kerosene, the principal constituent of jet fuel, has a detonation velocity of only 1,600 meters per second.
	Nanothermite, however, get this, has a detonation velocity of only 895 meters per second, which means it not only could not destroy steel, it could not even destroy cement.
	Though, listen, Richard Gage during our discussion on Saturday will argue it was a high temperature generated that had the destructive effect on concrete.
	Many nukes, however, would have had the observed effects.
	And I've mentioned the elements the U.S. Geological Survey discovered in the 35 dust samples: barium and strontium, thorium, uranium, lithium, lanthanum, ytrium, chromium, tritium, some of which only exist in radioactive form and would not have been present had this not been a nuclear event.
	Meanwhile, we also had the curse of Grand Zero.
	We had medical maladies that were replicating what happened at Chernobyl when there was a meltdown of a nuclear power plant there.
	At the time of this publication, the World Health Program had 5,441 with 6,378 separate cancers.
	These are first responders and local residents.
	The total as of now is around 70,000.
	Leukemia, multiple myeloma, esophageal, pancreatic cancer, very similar pattern to what happened at Chernobyl, reinforcing that it was a nuclear event.
	We also have a heat pattern distribution following the event beneath the ground.
	There were vast pools of molten metal that endured until mid-December.
	Utterly inexplicable undirected energy, and I think far-fetched for nanothermite or conventional explosives.
	In fact, I'd say not even possible for VAN.
	Meanwhile, here you have the actual use of a directed energy weapon in Paradise, California.
	Look at that.
	The homes in this case were completely destroyed, and yet you had the surrounding greenery, the trees unaffected.
	The World Trade Center didn't look anything like this.
	In fact, we can go all the way back to where we find how it looked after the event.
	And which was totally different than expected.
	There you have it.
	There you have it.
	Just absolutely stunning what we had as though all and only buildings with a WTC designation were to be destroyed.
	And that was the plan.
	Or mind you, the World Trade Center was placed in private ownership by the Port Authority, which was run by Zionists.
	Frank Lowry, Paul Eisenberg, Ronald Howder transferred ownership to Larry Silverstein, who is not only a Zionist, but a close personal friend with Bibi Net Yahoo,
	where he's boasted how he and Bibi have conversations every Sunday, every Sunday, and where there's really no room for doubt that this was an Israeli op.
	So, what did Silverstein do?
	When he took control, he immediately fired the security firm that had been looking after the tower since 1970 and replaced them with an Israeli firm, a Kroll.
	And they're saying there were two different firms, another where Marvin Bush was involved.
	And Kroll, one was for physical security, the other electronic or communication.
	We also had Odego, which was an Israeli asset, warning Jewish employees not to come into the World Trade Center that day, where Willie Brown admitted he'd been warned by a member of the W administration not to fly that day.
	It eventually emerged it was warned by Condoleezza Rise, but they put pressure on him to take it all back.
	Very, very awkward for a guy who basically is a truth teller.
	I had a little old lady from Brooklyn call me to tell me that the rabbi had told the members of the synagogue not to go into Lower Manhattan that day.
	She was very, very troubled, and I was very appreciative to hear from her.
	Wonderful stuff.
	So last night, I gave an hour and a half presentation.
	We're actually looking at the slide set here about what happened to the Twin Towers and the impossibility that it could have been subjected to collapse.
	And look at this.
	You have the North Tower blowing apart in every direction from the top down.
	No collapse here.
	Because as I say, they needed to find a way to destroy the buildings without damaging the bathtub.
	And the idea that the topmost portions could have collapsed and caused the lower portions to fall is ridiculous.
	Here you have Chuck Baldwin, a retired high school math, physics, and chemistry teacher, calculating that for every unit of downward force from those top floors, there was 118 units of upward force.
	It's just as the calculation is not Made about those who want to insist that an aluminum aircraft could have penetrated a twin tower.
	They calculate what they take to be the force of the aluminum, but they don't calculate the force, the massive force of resistance.
	And remember, by Newton's third law, the amount of force involved here, whether we're talking about a stationary 500-ton building, steel and concrete, being hit by an aircraft traveling over 400 miles an hour, or if the aircraft had been stationary, hit by a 500,000 ton building, steel and concrete,
	traveling over 400 miles an hour, the effect would have been the same.
	The plane would have been promulgated.
	Bodies, parts, fallen to the ground.
	But we've examined, we have photographs of the ground of the sidewalk beneath those facades.
	There's nothing there.
	No bodies, no seats, no wings, no tail, no luggage, because it didn't happen.
	You cannot have a cause without the corresponding effect.
	So if you do not have the effect, you did not have the corresponding cause.
	And look at this spectacular photograph.
	How could anyone possibly imagine this was any kind of collapse?
	That was a part of the psyops.
	To use the word collapse, collapse, collapse over and over again, that we began to believe it actually had been a collapse.
	And then we're back to the molecular dissociation.
	Yes, I suppose this could have been an effect of directed energy had it had access to the cores, but the cores were surrounded by a Faraday cage.
	So it cannot have been done by directed energy weapons.
	However, molecular dissociation is an effect of the use of nuclear devices.
	And thus you have the conversion in those millions of cubic yards of very fine dust.
	And Trump talking about what actually happened.
	And the explanation that appears to be the only viable of it having been done with mini nukes.
	Fascinating.
	Absolutely fascinating.
	And of course, the enduring heat lasting to mid-December.
	Here are some key points about the heat beneath Manhattan post-9-11.
	Intense and long-lasting fires.
	Fires within the debris pile burned for months, contributing to the prolonged heat at the site.
	High temperatures.
	Thermal measurements taken by helicopters showed underground temperatures ranging from 400 degrees Fahrenheit to over 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit due to the ongoing underground fires.
	Impact on rescue and recovery.
	The intense heat at the site posed challenges for workers, melting the soles of their shoes and requiring careful consideration for the safety of search and rescue.
	Thermal hotspots.
	Initial analysis from December 16 revealed hot stops in the region where the buildings collapsed with temperatures greater than 800 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Yes.
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