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The Raw Deal (29 August 2025) with co-host Paul from CA and special guest, Sofia Smallstorm

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	I'm gonna need somebody, not just anybody, you know I need someone, now When I was younger, so much younger than today I never needed anybody's help in any way Now but now these days are gone,
	I'm not so selfish, oh I'll find the gentleman I'll open up the door Help me if you can, I'm feeling down Well,
	this is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Raw Deal right here on Revolution Radio Studio B. This 29th day of August 2025.
	Just a reminder, coming up this next week, a 9-11 extravaganza.
	Richard Gage, who founded Architects and Engineers, by far the most widely heralded and supported nine eleven truth organization here in the United States, will be making a presentation for an hour and a half on Tuesday, beginning at ten Eastern, nine Central, seven Pacific.
	Then Thursday, I, Jim Fetzer, founder of Scholars for nine eleven truth, will be making a presentation again Thursday for an hour and a half, ten Eastern, nine Central, Seventh Pacific, and then Saturday.
	So it's Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
	Richard and I will join together an hour earlier, nine PM Eastern, eight PM Central, six PM Pacific to discuss and debate our similarities and differences over what happened on nine eleven.
	I tell you, if you want to get an education about 9-11, this is a rare opportunity.
	And you'll learn, too, of our views about Judy Wood and Dews and why, as I'm going to contend, it's not even possible that Twin Towers could have been taken down with directed energy.
	Well, but stand by.
	This is, I think, an event you don't want to miss.
	Meanwhile, joined by Paul from California, I want to talk about the Minneapolis shooting.
	Ah, yeah.
	The Minneapolis shooting and why it does not appear to have been a real event but rather staged.
	It's fascinating that we have this happening.
	There are some including myself who speculate that we're talking about an event that was orchestrated because of my lawsuit against Rumble and Bitchute.
	And I gotta say I think that that may very well be the case.
	It's quite significant because my Sandy Hook friends explained to me that Sandy Hook promise, which continues to rake in a million bucks a month, a million bucks a month had hired Victor Hugo out of concern that my lawsuit right here in Dane County where I have four appeals pending might be overturned and if that were to happen
	it could cut off their gravy train.
	He's now posted over 750 of these vicious, defamatory, malicious videos, not just attacking me, but colleagues of mine who have spoken up for me, including Russ Winter,
	Joaquina Gopi and Susan Bradford, Brian Davidson, Carl Herman, and he's expanded to those shows that have featured me in the past, including Stu Peters, X twenty two Report, SGT Report, Mike Adams included, Dean Ryan.
	I mean, it's completely outrageous what's going on here.
	It's as though he's taking on the entire All Truth community.
	Well, because of the connection as Sandy Hook, they may want to reinforce the idea that these mass shootings are real and taking place, but I would describe this as Sandy Hook 2, which was a FEMA drill presented as mass murder to promote gun control.
	Now just to make an overarching point that the liberals completely misunderstand or deliberately misrepresent worldwide.
	The more guns, the lower the homicide rate.
	That's right.
	You may have never contemplated the very possibility.
	John Lott is an American expert in this area.
	The more gun ownership, the lower the homicide rate.
	So taking guns away, after all, if you're going to have laws for gun control, they're only going to affect law-abiding citizens.
	Criminals, in case you haven't noticed, and it's as though the Democrats have a brain warp here, are not law-abiding citizens.
	So if you have gun control laws, you're going to be taking guns away from law-abiding citizens.
	The criminals are going to do it anyway.
	So of course they're trying to create phony events where it looks as though we had someone who is maybe not right in the mind performing an action even with legally obtained guns.
	I just want there to be a general understanding worldwide, the more guns, the lower the homicide rate.
	We had a spectacular illustration in Brazil of late where they had a new president who relaxed the gun control laws and crime and homicides went down.
	And he got a boot, replaced by a president who wanted tighter gun control laws, and the crime and homicide rate went up.
	And I'm telling you, this is true worldwide.
	So this particular event is getting a staggering amount of publicity, very on the order of the original Sandy Hook, perhaps not quite as egregious, pure evil.
	And this is from the Gateway Pundit, which I have tended to regard as a highly reliable news source.
	Trans Minneapolis Catholic School shooter identified had two names.
	Post a manifesto on YouTube before shooting.
	Shooter had killed Donald Trump written on the gun.
	Now there are a lot of major clues there right from the bat that this is a contrived event.
	You got children being shot.
	That's emotional impact number one.
	You had it in a church emotional impact number two.
	A Catholic church emotional impact number three.
	Why should he have killed Donald Trump on his weapon?
	That has nothing to do with anything.
	That's a sure sign something is fake here.
	The idea to tranny, give me a break.
	Having a manifesto, how many, how many persons have you ever known who had manifestos?
	Let's listen to how they're pitching this.
	Per Fox News, sources confirmed to Fox, the Minneapolis shooter has been identified as 23-year-old Robin Westman, coined at court talks at 17-year-olds.
	Robert Westman formerly had his legal name changed to Robin because Doc state a minor child identifies as female and wants her name to reflect the identification.
	The application for a name change of a minor was filed by the mother and a court ran the request in 2020.
	Paul, go ahead.
	Give us your preliminary take.
	We're going to spend a fair amount of time on this.
	Paul.
	Well, initially, initially like all these others, I don't tend to pay much attention to the details.
	I am at the point now where my default position is they're almost all staged, especially when it comes to school shootings.
	In other words, the idea that anyone, someone would go to a school such as an elementary school or another sort of school like that and shoot students for pretty much no reason is fairly unfathomable.
	And I believe that, you know, even Columbine, you know, which was sort of like, I guess, the beginning of this sort of thing.
	Even there was a lot of very problematic things.
	Now, I'm not saying nobody died at Columbine.
	It's a very interesting case study.
	It's a whole separate thing.
	But since then, you have shown, as well as many others, I mean, you actually came along after Sophia and others had done some work on Sandy Hook, and then you did all your you compiled all the research of others in that in the phenomenal book Nobody died at Sandy Hook and of course since then we've only seen a pattern right that's what that's essentially all the evidence shows is these things fit a kind of a template and in many cases they don't make any sense and for example Las Vegas was a classic example where
	the the the victims had no internet presence in many cases they were just made up names so I sent you the paper from Miles Mathis last night I'm sure you took had a chance to look at it but of course he points out that this guy here this alleged shooter is likely a composite character who actually has no real existence.
	And this is, of course, the most convenient sort of perpetrator there is.
	We have Miles' story right here.
	We're going to be discussing it today.
	This is just stunning stuff and that the media takes it so seriously.
	And Paul, you've been suggesting to me even on FTJ Media, you have personal
	Now, if these were bona fide and legitimate, there'd be no necessity to rehearse and memorize a statement or to have one written out.
	You just talk about the facts as you do it.
	But when you're dealing with fantasy, with fiction, you got to make sure you keep your story straight.
	So you need to memorize what you're going to say or write it out.
	Well, then they got a kid, I don't know, six or seven, who claimed that his classmate saved him by lying on top of him and was shot in the back.
	But he casually says, Oh, he's going to be okay.
	Now this kid is just standing there chewing gum.
	He has no effect, no emotion whatsoever.
	He's just rattling this off, showing he's a good child actor.
	That's all this can be, Paul.
	I mean, it's so insulting that we have to it's absurd.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We should play that clip as well as the other one, the new Robbie Parker clip.
	But in my opinion, here's what I was going to say.
	Once you've seen some bad acting.
	Okay.
	And I mean, if you have any sense of authenticity, I think this is one of the scary things that, you know, the people are always in their screens, all this AI, all the movies, all the television series, and there's a blurring of lines between what is real authentic human behavior and acting.
	And of course, so many of these things that you and I have seen, it just doesn't.
	seem real.
	And in other words, you know, starting with Sandy Hook, But certainly some of the interviews with Orlando Pulse nightclub, the Las Vegas shooting, the one in Thousand Oaks, and so on and so forth.
	Just why are there always news reporters there with cameras and microphones?
	And then all of a sudden we get, we get to interview all these survivors and they just mostly calmly recollect what happened.
	And now they have this kid who supposedly he's actually, they say he's what, six or seven?
	But in reality, it seems like he's a little bit older according to what people have done.
	But anyway, just for fun, I should read you what one of my listeners and followers sent me after I sent her a link.
	I'm going to link with the interview of those two dads.
	It looked like it was two gay dads talking about their son, Bob Fletcher.
	Oh, Paul, I got it set up here.
	Why don't we play it and then read it?
	Play it and then okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yeah.
	And I'm very glad.
	Let's take you out there right now as we're going to hear from some family members of the victims following this deadly tragic shooting there.
	Two individuals, two young kids losing their lives.
	Let's listen in.
	There won't be any interviews.
	And I just let you give them space and grace for the first time here and we'll be in touch.
	I'm pretty easy to find.
	Other media can share it with you, and we'll be sharing a photo as soon as this statement is read.
	Thank you.
	What the gate added is supporting?
	Yesterday, a coward decided to take our eight-year-old son Fletcher away from us.
	Because of their actions, we will never be allowed to hold him, talk to him, play with him and watch him grow into the wonderful young man he was on the path to becoming.
	Fletcher loved his family, friends, fishing, cooking, and any sport that he was allowed to play.
	While the hole in our hearts and lives will never be filled, I hope that in time our family can find healing.
	I pray that the other victim's family can find some semblance of the same.
	I'm hopeful that all the wounded are able to make a full recovery and return home to their families.
	And finally, all the people and especially the children impacted by this horrific event are able to recover mentally and find strength to live loving, happy and full lives.
	Over the past day, I've heard many stories accounting the swift and heroic actions of children and adults alike from inside the church.
	Without these people and their selfless actions, this could have been a tragedy of many magnitudes more.
	For these people I am thankful.
	Moving forward, we ask not for your sympathy, but your empathy as our family and the Annunciation community grieve and try to make sense of such a senseless act of violence.
	Please remember Fletcher for the person he was.
	and not the act that ended his life.
	Give your kids an extra hug and kiss today.
	We love you, Fletcher.
	You'll always be with us.
	Okay, obviously you heard there the grief in the voice there of one of the victims' family members as they were just reading out of Stephen, not taking any questions, but the showing of support of the Annunciation, the Catholic school there behind him in full force, the entire community in Minneapolis and the twin Cities as obviously two young kids, eight and ten, losing their lives, talking about that kid, Fletcher there.
	So, of course, so heartbreaking to hear all these stories.
	And you can hear them talk about remembering that individual, that young child, the life that he had ahead of him, not for the moment, not for the tragedy that unfolded yesterday, but for the kid, the personality, the person that he was.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway, you didn't get the message.
	Paul, there we have the anchor underlined.
	No, this is really traumatic.
	Oh, this is so awful.
	Have emotion, weep tears.
	But it's fraudulent.
	It's a complete fake.
	It's pseudoterrorism.
	And it is an act of terrorism because it was constructed deliberately to instill fear in the parents across America.
	And it had that effect for everyone who took it seriously.
	So notwithstanding that it's contrived, and I have not the least doubt, it is a form of terrorism.
	Paul, go right ahead.
	Yeah, again, it's just it's pathetic.
	You know, the idea that I think that.
	that I think that's a good characterization.
	I don't know if I've ever heard you say that before, but it is a form of emotional terrorism, in my opinion.
	And the fact that we're subjected to such an agenda, and again, it's for more reasons than just gun control.
	There's literally written about this as far as just it's sort of an ongoing attack on our psyche, just like so many of the things that they do and subject us to.
	And I just thought I'd read quickly an email I've received.
	I sent a link to a friend of mine.
	She's followed me for a while.
	This clip sent with my comments.
	Take a look at this.
	It doesn't seem real.
	The entire thing has to be fake.
	And she bolts this with underline.
	When a child is harmed, the family is going to be inconsolable.
	I know this firsthand because my own family was inconsolable when something tragic happened to us.
	My dad was ready to do something drastic, and my mom had to talk him out of getting a gun.
	The entire thing looks staged and bullshit.
	Why are they using the stupidest, hideous actors that they do?
	Why can't they invest in better theatrics?
	So that was her initial reaction.
	And of course, she's probably more inclined to react that way than others.
	But there you go.
	you're telling me uh hosts and commentators on ftj are taking it seriously they don't have their heads screwed on right what's going on there Well, I mean, among them, you know, one of them, he was on the other night.
	I think they spent a little time on this, Adapio, but, you know, he's of the opinion that this this quote this notion that everything is fake is not is not a good healthy notion it's destructive you know to whatever blah blah blah and I mean I just don't get that first of all to say not everything is fake is not some kind of an argument in other words we're talking about a series of events though we could tie them all together and say what they have in common but we're not saying quote everything is fake and
	that's something that's been used to attack our positions before I've heard it you've probably yeah it's just it's t childish and massively stupid because you have to look at each individual event.
	And if each individual event turns out to be fake, then those that you've investigated that turn out to be fake are all fake.
	That doesn't mean everything is fake.
	Billions of events are taking place every single day.
	The overwhelming majority are not fake.
	They're all bona fide.
	They're not interesting.
	They don't have any political significance.
	This is a colossally dumb attitude to take unless you can look at the evidence and show how we're mistaken about those we've investigated and you and I are not talking off the top of our head.
	I bring together groups of experts to sort out what really happened in the case of Sandy Hook 13, including six PhDs, and we established that the school had been closed by 2008, that there were no students or teachers there, and that it had been a FEMA drill presented as mass murder to promote gun control, where I even included the FEMA manual for the event as appendix eight.
	Now tell me what we got wrong about calling out Sandy Hook as a stage FEMA drill, Paul.
	I mean, these people are irresponsible to the max well again you know once the pattern was established uh nobody can fault us for making the assumption that this next one is real until is excuse me is staged until proven otherwise and of course already i mean immediately the tells were there i mean for christ's sake the manifesto i mean it's like it's like they're announcing it to us okay i mean the average you know nobody had nobody writes a manifesto
	okay even in my opinion the unabomber manifesto was probably fake i don't believe that that was fully authentic even though it was actually quite interesting uh i do believe that some of the writings of eric rudolph, however, were quite authentic and showed a glimpse into the man's mind and soul.
	And of course, he was not the monster or the boogeyman that everybody made him out to be.
	He was quite a sensitive, intelligent person, but misguided.
	I'm assuming you know who Eric Rudolph is.
	So the...
	Thank you.
	His manifesto would be unsurprising.
	He was an intellectual.
	But we're talking about creedless mental midgets here who are supposed to be committing these offenses.
	Well, right.
	No, no, of course.
	But again, they're illiterate.
	They're not capable of putting together a coherent sentence, much less drafting a manifestation that has page after page after page.
	I mean, it's insulting.
	Leave alone the fact that, again, as so many of these shootings have revealed, of course, you've done this kind of work, Mathis has done this work where he just dives into the databases and finds that in many cases, not only some of the victims, but the perpetrators themselves, the alleged perpetrators, have or had no internet presence, which is just, it's bizarre beyond belief, right?
	In other words, he, you know, Mathis has claimed over and over again that all the databases know who he is, where he went to school, and all the details of his life, just like they have on all of us, right?
	I mean, you can go find out where multiple addresses where we lived, what we did, and so on and so forth.
	But why is it that the perpetrators of some of these shootings, such as Adam Lansdis, seem to be a composite character who prior to the, prior to the event, had no real, authentic actual existence?
	So it's just, again, and all the tales, like, you know, the work that you've done.
	What did we see, by the way, after Sandy Hook, we saw it seemed like every, at least every month or two, there was another one.
	Maybe that's a little too frequently, but didn't it seem like there were some periods of time where it's like we'd have one and then a few weeks later we'd have another?
	I just think they were trying to overwhelm our senses.
	Yeah.
	It's that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, when they're trying to move in a certain direction politically, they create the events that could affect the public to support their effort.
	Here we have now a mass shooting in Minneapolis followed a pattern that's becoming very familiar.
	And I agree there is a pattern here of fake stage shootings.
	We'll continue it all from California right now.
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	Well, there's much more to be said.
	The pattern here, they claim, Let me read it.
	We have seen this happen way too many times before.
	Over and over again, shootings are.
	being committed by deranged individuals who hate conservatives and hate Christians.
	More often than not, the shooters are deeply involved in an alternative sexual lifestyle, and so they view conservatives and Christians as their oppressors.
	Frequently, the shooters have some sort of a personal connection to the particular target.
	That's chosen, of course.
	In so many of these cases, the mainstream media will completely ignore the real reason why mass shooting has taken place.
	But the American people are not stupid.
	We can all see what is happening.
	And it's time for the mainstream media to start admitting the truth.
	The mass shooting that just occurred in Minneapolis should be a major wake-up call for all of us.
	Paul, what complete rubbish, what complete rubbish?
	And I have no doubt it's sincere.
	Who wrote that?
	It says Michael.
	Just the name is Michael.
	Oh, oh, so in other words, so this is an article from somewhere.
	Yeah, yeah, it's from Citizens Watch Report.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Yeah.
	Well, again, you know, it's so, it's so ridiculousous.
	You and I live in a world, along with many others, of course, where we've come to understand the truer nature of the, in many cases, the fake reality.
	And what stagggers my mind sometimes is that many of these people that we know that are in our, what we would call our circle, our group, our club, they're fully on board with all the fakery going back to the mood landings and even before, right?
	I mean, they, I mean, a lot of these people will recognize, yeah, they they let the attack on Pearl Harbor happen.
	They knew it was coming.
	They allowed it.
	I mean, et cetera, et cetera.
	911.
	They're on board with all these big events being completely faked or staged to hoax, but yet the news reports a horrendous thing like a school shooting and they just assume, oh, well, well, that's real, you know, and again, how many, how many do we, how many times do we have to show over and over again that these things are staged and it's a pattern,
	it's a fucking pattern and it seems to me that these people that don't recognize patterns are not the brightest bulbs in the in the drawer, if you will.
	Well, you mentioned Miles Mathers.
	I pulled up his article.
	Minnesota school shooter Robin Westman is a fake.
	First published august 28 yesterday i'm gonna cut right to the chase here sometimes sick of this what happened to his head i didn't stretch that so what happened it reminds us the alleged victory of adam lawns a sandy hook fake shooter doesn't it elongated head Yeah, yeah, stretching it from top to bottom.
	Again, I didn't stretch it.
	It's straight off the internet.
	It's obviously heavily distorted.
	I actually think for Adam they, they just took a skull and made an aquarell to create it.
	Fake somehow, either in Photoshop or by AI.
	Also, remind us of what they did with Marilyn Bryant, Martin Bryant, in the Port Arthur fake.
	Completely recreated him in CGI as a nut job.
	So I've done that again here stretching Wesman's head, turning him into some kind of monster tranny to fit the current fraud.
	I guess the event was created by a competing arm at CIA trying to blackwash trannies or stir your brain.
	Alex Jones gave us the clue today on Infowars, though he's still selling the event as real in other articles, asking why Democrats are responding with calls for gun control.
	Above that first link piece, we find the title, Massive Minnesota Transcult Member's father has worked for 29 years as top level CIA DOD contractor.
	The Alex Jones show, august 28.
	Why are so many school shooter family members linked to the Intel community?
	Right.
	Now see, this is an important point to remember.
	This has been occurring over and over again.
	This is all the way back to one of the first papers.
	I think it might have been the very first paper of Miles Mathis I read on the Sharon Tate murders.
	And I never knew till I read that paper, which in my opinion was 80 plus pages PDF of absolute brilliant research and insight.
	But yeah, Colonel Paul Tate was in military intelligence and he actually had been stationed in Italy, curiously enough at the coincidentally enough at the time that Operation Gladio was taking place in Italy.
	So again, there's just all as a wonder.
	All as one researcher I used to listen to all the time says more connections than a switchboard.
	And like I said, why is it that all these people have very interesting ties and connections, the ones that actually do exist?
	And why is it that over and over and over again they're Jewish?
	I mean, it just, it seems to me that's given the reported percentage of the population that Jews comprise, I think it's highly suspicious that over and over again many of these people involved in these things happen to be of that particular, shall we say, ethnic derivation.
	And here's another one I'll hammer home real quick, and I'm probably going to go on.
	I'll be on Monday for sure on FTGA, but I'm going to see if I can maybe even come on tonight with Davis to hit this a little bit.
	But, you know, they've talked a lot about MKUltra and the MKUltra assassins.
	And neither you or I would contend that they don't exist.
	I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that Sirhan Sirhan was MKUltra programmed, what they call hypnoprogram.
	But the fact of the matter is, is they couldn't count on him to do it.
	They do this mostly emotionally.
	as a diversion okay for for patsies in my opinion that's why i thought that 9-11 was such a farce the idea that they were going to actually depend on the successful hijacking of four different airplanes, which at first when we believed there was airplanes, now of course we know there weren't, but just the notion that they were going to carry out an operation that was going to depend upon the success of such a very problematic thing.
	So, you know, therefore, you're going to hypnoprogram this guy to do some school shooting and hope that he does it right and hope that he kills himself afterwards.
	It just, to me, it's just, okay, MK Ultra does exist and I'm sure they've employed it, but.
	not time after time after time after time in all these school shootings.
	I just, I can't buy it.
	Just for the sake of clarity, well, you intended.
	by no planes is that all four of the alleged 911 crash sites were fabricated or faked in one way or another, which is everyone wants to see that proof check me out on Thursday when I get my presentation in relation to the Richard Gage on Tuesday and then our discussion together on Saturday.
	Miles continues.
	James Allen Wesman worked as a senior application developer at ESRI, the leading original geospatial satellite ground mapping GPS coordinate system for Pentagon, Google and CIA.
	He's been there almost thirty years.
	He's now 62, making him rather old to be the father of a 23-year-old shooter.
	Alex then shows you that Westman's wife Mary Grace Westman worked for Spooky Church of the Annunciation in Minneapolis for many years, the same church where her son allegedly killed people.
	The parish was established in 1922.
	The first mass was celebrated October 1, 1922 at the community house located at 4301 Wheelsbury Avenue South.
	The parish then moved to a store at 54th and Garfield.
	A combination church school and convent was built by the first pastor, FJ Lang, and masses moved to the new church, October 18, 2025.
	A rectory first occupied in December 2023.
	Yeah, Paul.
	Yeah, I was going to say, these are pretty uninteresting details for the average listener, but, yeah, I mean, if you want to get to the point where he shows all the Jewish people as spokespersons of the Jewish people writing articles about this, it's just, you know, that's of interest.
	As you see, ases and eights all over that did over this.
	The Burbertrader killed two children ages eight and ten and injured eighteen others, fifteen children and three adults, parishioners in their eighties.
	Notice a parallel with Sandy Hooking, that we got twenty children killed and six adults.
	Official did not immediately release the names of the deceased children.
	However, they were identified by their families as ten year old Harper Moyse and eight year old Fletcher Merkel.
	Two Jewish names Anglo Miracle and a Moisky.
	What are the evidence?
	Jewish kids going to mass at a Catholic school.
	According to Instant Checkmate and Rideris, Mary Grace Westman now lives in Naples, Florida, so maybe she didn't approve of this project.
	Her maiden name is Wilson.
	She's now 67.
	So she was 44 when she gave birth to Robin.
	Unlikely, yes.
	How many 67-year-old women give birth?
	How many 67-year-old women are even having sex.
	All his siblings are much older.
	The Westmans are related to the Gordons, the Danilskis, the Himes, the Burgers, telling us the usual thing, maybe they're all Jewish.
	Roderick sent instant checkmap with that pages for Robert Westman 23, but curiously, neither site links him to his own parents, either from his page or their pages, indicating that they may have made him up completely like Adam Lanza, perhaps using old pictures of his siblings.
	Adam Lanza never existed, being nothing but a ghost graded from his older brother Ryan.
	And remember, Lonza's father is a top executive at GE, GE being a huge military contractor.
	But back to the old church of the Annunciation, effective July 1, 2025, Dennis Zarin became the church's pastor.
	Hmm.
	Interesting, a guy with a Jewish name became the fake pastor of a Catholic congregation just a month ago.
	This reminds me of my paper on the fake church shooting in Madison, Wisconsin late last year, which involved the Abundant Life Christian Academy, part of the spooky fellowship of Christian assemblies, which I showed you look like at another CIA front.
	And we previously taught churches, cathedrals, and tabernacles in New York City and DC taken over by Intel and turned into propaganda outlets.
	We can be sure this had been done in all the major cities and most of the minor.
	See, for example, my paper on the golden suicides, which involved St. Mark's fake church.
	We also see Major Spook William Sloan Coffin, admittedly CIA, ran the fake Riverside Church in New York City.
	I have hit him in several papers.
	Oh, and our James Westman has links to Madison since he worked there as well.
	Alex then rushes you past the question you just asked about why we find the CIA links in these events.
	Alex Jones, by the way.
	Yeah, focusing instead on the tranny question, but I push you back to the original why are so many schools should her family member link to the intel community isn't it obvious by now even if i had blown the cover of all of them unwind it piece by piece you should have figured it out by now they all link the military and ci because they are all military and ci a projects just like all the fake serial
	killers all the schools government fiction sold as real.
	So this is a point sitting on for a moment because this is not the first time there's been many other instances.
	But of course, Math has covered this quite th quite thoroughly in his paper on the Sharon Tate fraud, right?
	Where not only Sharon Tate's father, Colonel Paul Tate, was in military intelligence, but many of the other alleged perpetrators, such as Susan Atkins, I believe Leslie Krenwickel, also another one, escaped on, I think it might have been Squeaky From, but I could be wrong.
	But there were several of these girls that had very interesting families or backgrounds, including members of the military.
	So what Mathis has made the point, and others have joined him on this, is that these people used family members for these events.
	And it's probably a solid bet because they know them and they can trust them.
	And it's like, okay, it's all in the family.
	So there can be no doubt.
	Most people would buy the fact that the military and the intelligence agencies will stage various events for political and propaganda purposes.
	people would buy that premise.
	So I would just urge anybody and everybody to just start a school or a church or a synagogue.
	So outrageous.
	We can't have these guns in our society.
	Well, I think Jim, you and I, and I'm sure millions of other Americans are pretty darn sure what's going to happen after they try to take away all our guns.
	That's right.
	It's a death knell.
	This is to sell you police security antidepressants, guns, pepper gear, and a thousand other things you don't need.
	Alex is right about one thing though.
	This is about installing a police state as part of the rollout for ever more security.
	They are proposing getting AI involved in policing.
	I'm now about to launch Gideon America's first ever AI threat detection platform built specifically for law enforcement.
	Cohen added, it scrapes the internet 24/7 using an Israeli grade technology, all praise Israel to pull specific threat language and then route it to local law enforcement.
	It's a 24/7 detective.
	It never sleeps and it's going to get out in front of these attacks.
	Cohen added, note the name.
	Cohen.
	could have predicted this to be published by a Kohan.
	And then it adds about what we find in the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
	Church School at Center of Shooting is a South Minneapolis landmark, of course.
	Annunciation Church has served South Minneapolis for over 100 years.
	The school of Rose Kids and preschool through eighth grade.
	Isn't it a coincidence this Catholic story being led in Minneapolis by two Jewish ladies?
	Well, here's another coincidence and from ABC.
	Minneapolis shooting, eight-year-old and ten-year-old killed 17 others hurt at a Catholic school.
	The shooter died at the scene from a self-inflicted gunshot wound by Emily Shapiro.
	How do I find those so fast?
	They're the first two articles footnoted in Wikipedia.
	Anyway, I watched the whole video by Alex Joe and the Wyoming School shooter came from CIA families and guess what?
	He never gets around to asking that question.
	He doesn't pursue it at all.
	Because of course, if you pursue it, if you ask maybe just maybe the CIA is running these events, and no, I don't mean CIA is training kids to kill Christians.
	I mean, CIA is using its own family to manufacture these fictional stories.
	Why?
	I have told you that too.
	It kills two birds with one stone because beyond this being part of a gigantic and long-running up chaos, it can fake the death of this kid and it can go into CIA like its father but undercover.
	Do you see how that works?
	If Robin Westman exists, a fake death is a perfect cover for running a covert CIA program, isn't it?
	We saw the same thing a few days ago with the Mandarcox.
	our cox comrade, Mary the Kersher, who went into CIMI 6.
	So this is now in the can as well.
	I will not waste any more time on it since it fakes you to be a father being CIA is the only clue you need to have to solve this.
	Paul, I think that's very good.
	Well, I certainly didn't intend for you to read the entire paper on air, but of course that's sometimes what we do, what you do.
	I think it's worth noting to that term, which I think you said technology, but you meant to pronounce it correctly, ontology.
	So what the hell is an Israeli great ontology.
	You know, I mean, just this notion that these people are going to be scouring all the internet full-time to quote get ahead of these events.
	And, you know, this guy makes this announcement right on the heels of this shooting.
	Oh, I got a surprise mile to include another Intel agency that could be behind this, which of course obviously is Mossad.
	They're far more likely actually even than CIA or much less MI6.
	Meanwhile, for those who want to learn how to size these things up, check out my law enforcement.
	False Flags Age of Veterinary Checklist, coauthored with Brian Davidson, who is a private investigator from Houston, you can download it where I give you indicators how you can tell what's going on and links to a whole lot of studies that expose you especially want to watch how to spot a false flag,
	which is in its original version in two parts, but I did a subsequent with Catherine Horton in four where Catherine added many insights and observations.
	This is going through Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Orlando, Parkland, Las Vegas.
	Believe me, in short clips, you'll understand how they fake these things.
	And if you want to go deeper into Sandy Hook, you want to check out my presentation, Sandy Hook, what we know now that we didn't know then from 10 February 2024.
	It's utterly fascinating because members who'd actually participated in the FEMA drill reached out to me because they didn't like the way I was being beaten up in the courts here in Dane County.
	They sent me additional proof that the whole thing was staged and fake.
	It turns out that Eric Holder came to Newtown in 2006, which turns out to be the year the school was closed, 2006, and offered the community $114 million if they'd participate in this event.
	to illustrate what could happen if we don't take guns away from the American people.
	They had auditions for roles.
	They signed non-disclosure.
	agreements.
	They continue to receive benefits to this day, including paying no taxes, free college tuition.
	Now, the parties who reached out to me included the little girl who was cast as Emily Parker, the little blond hair blue eyed girl whose alleged sisters, they were actually her cousins, wound up on the lab of Barack Obama and Victoria Soto, who was a teacher who was alleged to have given her life to save her kids.
	But of course, they're very much alive and well.
	We had numerous communications over a three-year period.
	They recently, and this is about three months ago, threw me under the bus because they're all in for Israel and I am supportive of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Iran.
	And when there was a petition sent to the United Nations General Assembly with my name on it published on my blog, They notified me that I was now on my own and basically cut off relations.
	But they were wonderful.
	There were three.
	The Emily, the Victoria and Steve Lewis was a mutual friend who had actually reached out to me.
	And most of my conversations were with Steve about the activities of Emily and Victoria and himself.
	You can learn the whole story.
	See photographs of themselves they sent me.
	Sandy Hook, we know now what we didn't know, what we know now that we didn't know then in February.
	And let me just add to, I am doing a course on conspiracy theories in 911 beginning this Wednesday, this coming Wednesday.
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	I take it that's now no longer What?
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	Yeah, yeah.
	I was eager to do it.
	But following after the winter break, Senator Paul Wellstone accident and her assassination, Sandy Hook designing events for emotional impact, then Nice, Orlando, Parkland, Charlottesville, Las Vegas, then Pizza Gate.
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	We'll be right back after this break with Sophia Smallstone.
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	you Well, it's always a pleasure to feature Sophia Smallstorm once again.
	We've been having a series of conversations about the lives.
	the lifestyle and private events of the Kennedy family.
	And Sophia has been digging deep and reading a lot of fascinating stuff, some of which is rather obscure, aspects of which are extraordinarily sordid and tauddry.
	I mean, there are issues here.
	She's going to be reluctant to address in detail because they're a bit.
	I don't know what would be the right word.
	Salacious isn't strong enough.
	Sophia, welcome back.
	Hi, Jim.
	Thank you for giving me this invitation to continue.
	Yeah, you and I have been talking every couple of days or maybe even every day.
	You're getting updates.
	And I have to say, you know, I'm not really digging.
	I'm reading a book by Darwin Porter.
	And this is, I think, I have now four Darwin Porter books.
	I don't know where he gets this stuff.
	I have to say that this book on Jackie Kennedy pretty much parallels to the one I discussed last time we were talking on a show, which was Jackie after Jack by Christopher Anderson.
	So this book is pretty much modeled in line with that one, but Porter has more, as you call it, toddry, which is a very mild way of putting it, information.
	And I think this is because Porter somehow managed to get information from this Johnny Meyer, who was the, you know, pimp, some people called him, right hand man, aide to Howard Hughes.
	And after that, he was.
	He was hired for the same position by Aristotle Onassis.
	And both Hughes and Onassis were extraordinarily wealthy men, right?
	Hughes maybe even more so than Onassis.
	Onassis had Olympic Airlines, which didn't really compare to TWA, which Hughes then had to divest himself from.
	But Onassis was a very colorful character.
	And I have to say here that I'm of two minds about doing this show because I don't want to be connected with this kind of information.
	It's not my usual cup of tea.
	I'm only reading it because I bought the book.
	I have to finish it.
	And I have put it down for long periods of time.
	And I haven't even touched the other book, The Kennedys, All the Gossip Unfit to Print.
	I opened it and read a couple of pages, but I don't know if I can stomach that one.
	So the thing is, though, all told, we have to understand Jim, and I have to extend this to Shakespearean actors on the British stage.
	All these people high above our heads that we admire.
	They're in roles of leadership.
	They're in.
	They comment on our lives.
	They write about us.
	You know, these best selling famous, I don't even know, dancers, authors, politicians, actors, actresses, they operate along very different lines than we do, especially when it comes to their sexual lives.
	This is what I've concluded.
	And ordinary people, I don't think are like this on the whole.
	I mean, ordinary people have.
	The aspiration, I think I'm making a giant generalization of, you know, you get good grades in school and then you go to college and then you marry and then you buy a house and then you have a family and maybe you move somewhere into a bigger house.
	But that's kind of the American dream, right?
	Wouldn't you say?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And as a child, I always wondered why do these people marry multiple times?
	These actors and actresses are married and divorced multiple times.
	And I thought, well, you know, maybe that they get tired of each other, but they appear not to consider a matrimony to be as committed as the rest of us do.
	And they can buy each other off more easily.
	Other people, ordinary people, you know, they can't they can't divorce because sometimes they can't afford to be divorced and live in two different domiciles.
	Of course, it has increased now.
	The rate of divorce over the last thirty, forty years.
	But where politics was concerned in JFK's a age, you couldn't get divorced and be president, right?
	That's why he kind of had to marry Jackie.
	But when Jackie lost John F. Kennedy, which was a complete surprise to her, and she cried and cried and cried for weeks and weeks and weeks, as reported by her little daughter Caroline to her nursery school teachers, I now don't think she was crying that JFK was dead.
	This is my personal opinion, not the opinion of Revolution Radio, not in the Darwin Porter book.
	I just think she was blabbergasted and freaked out and destroyed and devastated as to what she was going to do with the rest of her life, that this rug had been pulled out from under her because she and JFK had,
	you know, waxed on musing many nights about what they would do after 1968 when they expected he would be elected again in 1964 and then they would have four more years in the White House and to invite artists and people of note to have dinners and whatnot.
	But this all ended rudely in November 1963, right?
	So if I may interject, I've read that Jack actually had an earlier marriage which they had to have annulled.
	I don't believe it endured long, but have you run over that in your research?
	Yes, we talked about that.
	Unfortunately, this book is packed with so many names and it's not indexed that I have forgotten her name, but he did have a marriage before Jackie and that was annulled.
	And that's another thing.
	You know, you can just get a marriage annulled and then it doesn't count, right?
	You were never married.
	You were no.
	You're no, it didn't happen.
	The fact is it did happen, but in the eyes of the church it didn't happen, and that's I guess what was important to people of the Catholic faith at the time.
	But Jackie wanted the best repairing that was humanly possible on Earth.
	And she got, as I mentioned in a previous show, according to Porter, there were two thousand books written on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, and Jackie got the same number of marriage proposals, two thousand according to Porter.
	And I wonder if any of them were from the authors of those books, right?
	I've got a couple hundred.
	I can't vouch for 2000, but I got a couple hundred in my library right here.
	Now I could read off.
	Oh, I thought you were going to say you got a couple hundred marriage proposals.
	No, no, no, no.
	And it's fascinating.
	And Jackie, I think you're right.
	She was weeping because her whole style of life had now been ripped out from under her by the assassination.
	Just a token of realism about Jackie's true character, which you can elaborate at length.
	Go right ahead.
	Yeah, and I was just paging through this book while I was waiting for our section to start, only I didn't mark it.
	Apparently, Jackie was upset because John F. Kennedy did not provide for her well enough.
	And she complained about this to Teddy.
	She said, Jack didn't, I found the page, page 572.
	Jackie complained to Teddy, Jack did not adequately provide for me.
	She had purchased her Fifth Avenue apartment from funds derived from the sale of their home in Georgetown.
	JFK wanted her to receive only 150,000 a year with the understanding that if she remarried that annual stipend would automatically be diverted to Caroline and John Jr.
	Recognizing that she'd need more, Teddy was instrumental in getting Bobby to promise to supplement that income with an additional allowance of 50,000 every year.
	Still, that was only 200,000 a year from the Kennedy estate, right?
	And Teddy complained to Rose, his mother, and others, I love Jackie dearly, but she doesn't know how to live on a budget.
	So she solved that problem by marrying Onassis.
	And Christina Onassis estimated after Onassis' death, she firmly refused to let him divorce her because she charged everything to Olympic Airlines, that was his airline company.
	And he already gave her a massive monthly allowance.
	I think it was like thirty thousand a month.
	And, you know, diamond bracelets on her breakfast tray and stuff like this.
	But she spent, I think it was seven million a year of Onassis's money for the seven years that she was with him.
	seven million?
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, how could she spend that kind of money?
	I mean, what in the world was she doing?
	Well, she was redecorating.
	She redecorated furiously, and that was the case in their house in Georgetown.
	Every few weeks, she painted some room a new color and put new fabrics.
	And I was reading about her early years in a book by Donald Spoto, which I guess I boughtought a long time ago because I found it here.
	It's not one I bought recently.
	And he's a very good writer, Donald Spodo.
	He details the very opulent lifestyle that people had in the roaring twenties in New York, where they lived on Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.
	And her father, John Bouvier, Black Jack Bouvier, as people called him, was on the New York Stock, had a seat on the New York Stock Exchange, but he did miserably.
	Now he made seven million dollars in the decade of the 1920s.
	I just read today, but he wasted it all.
	He actually was in the red every year.
	He spent more.
	So think about seven million dollars, how much that money that was for ten years in the 20s, and that he managed to spend all of it plus more.
	And he had to have his father bail him out.
	And then when his father's money shrank from $8 million to $4 million after the bailout Lee, which was his wife's father, mister Lee, I forget his first name, gave Black Jack Bouvier and his daughter Janet an apartment.
	I think it was 740 Park Avenue and that's where Jackie grew up with country life in the summers and off season holidays in Long Island on Long Island at this beautiful estate called La Sata LASATA with now get this.
	I didn't realize this but of course because I didn't knowt live then.
	People changed their clothes several times a day in the summer, the rich, because it was so hot.
	And so they had to have maids and servants constantly washing and ironing and taking stains out of their clothes.
	And they changed.
	JFK wore three suits a day while he was in the White House.
	And that was whether it was hot or cold.
	And that was 1960.
	But in the 1910s and 1920s, they were changing their clothes all the time because there was no air conditioning.
	So they had to have a lot of servants to do that.
	And Jackie lived very opulently as a child, so she was used to the finest of crystal and furniture.
	And now here's what's interesting, Jim.
	This is just a side note from me.
	The three most talked about women in the, let's say, 1960s, 1970s were Jackie Kennedy, Jacqueline Bouvier, Marilyn Monroe, and Elizabeth Taylor.
	And remember I mentioned this to you the other day?
	Where do those last names originate from?
	We got Taylor, we got Baker, Norma Jean Baker, and Bouvier means cowherd.
	So Taylor, Baker, and cowherd became the most famous women in the world.
	And they all had modest historical origins in those trades.
	Yes.
	So anyway, Jackie took on Onassis.
	She received three million dollars upon marrying him.
	Now remember, she had stashed one million from Joe Kennedy for remaining with JFK, in spite of all of his filandering, it took a million dollars of Kennedy's money to keep her there.
	And then she got three million from Onassis to marry him.
	And then when he died, the first thing Teddy Kennedy came to attend the funeral, and the Greeks were mad because Jackie was grinning from ear to ear at the funeral, very much unlike her behavior at her former husband's funeral.
	And the first thing Teddy said in the limousine as they left the, I don't know, the funeral setting, he said to Christina, now it's time to take.
	care of Jackie.
	And Christina, the daughter, was very offended.
	And there was a bitter struggle between her and Teddy Kennedy to figure out an amount.
	By Greek law, the widow gets, I think it's 10 percent, 12, 12.5 percent of the dead husband's estate.
	And there was this huge fight with lawyers because the husband is supposed to write his will at one location in one sitting location, he was moving over locations and they tried to nullify that will and there was a huge fight.
	Anyway, she ended up getting 125.
	She was supposed to get 125 million, she ended up getting 20 million and 6 million for taxes, so she had quite a bit of money.
	And the third man she took up with in the early 1980s and he moved in with her in 1982 was Maurice Templesman, who gave her a lot of financial advice and increased her 20 or 30 million.
	million if she had not spent the other monies that she obtained.
	Do two hundred at least.
	My inference would be she and Templesman didn't have an intimate relationship.
	Jim, that's what everybody thought.
	Frank Sinatra had something rude to say about that, you know, they all considered they considered Aristotle a toad and Templesman an old fuddy duddy.
	His wife would not divorce him, Lily, so he moved from their apartment in New York into Jackie's.
	But see, here's the thing.
	Templesman was from Belgium.
	He was an Orthodox Jew from Belgium.
	Jackie loved money and he was a financial wizard.
	He was worth something like six hundred million himself.
	And Jackie loved money.
	Everyone who knew her said that about her.
	And Maurice Templesman had plenty of it and knew how to build money.
	And he spoke French and they spoke French together.
	And she, you know, how Jackie charmed the French when she traveled to Europe with JFK and he returned to say he had accompanied Jacqueline Kennedy to Paris.
	Yeah, I mean, she's a very striking, very beautiful woman, also very photogenic.
	But, you know, Onassus' kids.
	Now, again, I don't want to seem a gossip, but I'm really kind of shocked by what I'm reading in this book.
	And I will share some things as long as people understand that I don't, I've never come across information like this before, and I don't really know how to digest it.
	And I feel like I need to take a shower after I read this stuff.
	Yeah.
	You know, here's the thing I have to tell people.
	So I read a really gross thing in this book.
	It was so gross that I didn't know what to do.
	I couldn't keep it to myself.
	I had to tell someone to get it off my chest.
	And who do I call?
	Jim Pfeffer.
	And I go, Jim, you're not gonna believe what I just read.
	I don't even know who to share it with.
	And Jim, Jim, you know what you said to me?
	You were so sweet.
	You said, share it with me, share it with me, you know, generously embracing my pain.
	And then when I told you, you couldn't believe it either.
	Right?
	Pretty gross.
	Very gross.
	But the reason I think it's important, Jim, is because I don't even know if I'll get around to explaining it in this show because our time is whizzing by, but I'm going to try.
	It kind of explains the core of pedophilia to me anyway.
	It goes deeper than anything I've ever heard.
	And, um, in a way, I'm glad that I know it for that reason.
	So what is missing from this whole Epstein thing?
	We know it's pedophilia, but there are really ugly, ugly angles to pedophilia that are not present in any of this Epstein material.
	And I'm writing a newsletter about that now.
	And I don't know that we'll ever hear that because the Epstein story is being covered by mainstream media right now, and they tend to avoid this kind of depth.
	So, and I'm talking about Satanism.
	I'm talking about real, real cruelty.
	And I'm going to give you an example of something very extreme.
	So Alexander Onassis' children despised Jackie, both of them, Christina and Alexander, who is a bit younger.
	And they knew what she was after.
	She was after their father's money and their father loved celebrities and Jackie was pretty much at the top of the totem pole where women celebrities were concerned.
	And that was a big inducement for him to marry her.
	And three months after he married her, he told his kids, I think I made a huge mistake.
	Because partly because of her enormous spending habits, enormous.
	You couldn't keep her in line.
	So now interestingly, Alexander, Aristotle, the father, spent 200,000 annually on his daughter, lavishing her with clothes, travel and jewelry.
	I'm reading a photographic subheading, photograph subheading from the Darwin Porter book.
	But to teach his son the value of money, he monitored his expenses and gave him only twelve thousand a year as an employee of Olympic Airlines.
	So Alexander was very upset with his father.
	And now he's got seven million and he's got twelve thousand.
	I mean, not so much.
	So Jackie's got seven million going.
	Christina has two hundred thousand going.
	Plus probably other perks and poor Alexander has twelve thousand a year.
	You could see this could generate a certain degree of resentment.
	Yes.
	So apparently it is said in this book that Aristotle Onassis, his worst enemy was Bobby Kennedy because both of those men loved or wanted Jackie, let's just say wanted.
	And Bobby Kennedy agreed to end his intimate relationship with Jackie because he wanted to run for president and you couldn't be doing that stuff like that.
	He had to be totally loyal to Ethel.
	And Jackie and he had to stop holding hands at every family gathering, right?
	But so now there's a guy, an author called Peter Evans, who published a book, Nemesis, which I mentioned to you yesterday.
	And Darwin Porter says, it caused massive speculation.
	Evans had been a foreign correspondent for the London Daily Express.
	He spent years investigating the love triangle of Jackie, Bobby, and Ari.
	The two men were deadly enemies, bitter competitors spinning around the favors of one woman, Jacqueline Kennedy.
	So also it appears that Bobby Kennedy had barred Onassis from trading with the United States because of Onassis' shady dealings.
	And this really enraged Onassis and provoked his eternal hatred of Bobby.
	So in this book written by Peter Evans, he states that Aristotle Onassis was at the heart of the plot to kill Bobby Kennedy.
	And you asked me what I thought about that.
	I don't know.
	I mean, no, no, yeah, no., yeah, no, no.
	It was a Mossad hit.
	Bobby was going to resurrect.
	Bobby wanted the Jewish lobbyists to register as foreign agents.
	It was a Mossad hit, not Aristotle Onassis.
	I think he's clean concerning Bobby's death, though we may have been happy about it.
	He did not bring it about.
	Okay, so let's just give this the benefit of the doubt for now.
	So apparently, because his father kept him on this meager financial leash or this very tight financial leash of meager money, Alexander Onassis was.
	was collecting information that tied his father to Bobby Kennedy's death, supposedly, and he kept it in a vault.
	And then Alexander had an untimely death himself.
	He was testifying.
	We have a break.
	We'll be right back with Sophia Smallstorm.
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	Okay, Jim, are you ready?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so according to this book, Johnny Meyer, who was the aide to Aristotle Onassis, after he served Howard Hughes, he collected a lot of information on his employers.
	And when Onassis died in , Meyer returned to America and lived in Florida.
	He realized that with both his former employers, he might make some serious money by selling, with the help of a ghostwriter, some of the most explosive revelations to the tabloids.
	And he wanted to sell his information on Ari's financing of Bobby's assassination, which he apparently fielded out of Alexander's safe.
	Alexander, after his death, Onassis dispatched Meyer to Alexander's apartment in Monaco and said, get in that safe and take out everything he's collected about me related to Bobby.
	So anyway, before this is what Darren Porter says, Before Meyer began serious negotiations with the media, he was killed mysteriously in an accident.
	Now think of Robert Maxwell, all right?
	Gillane's father.
	After leaving a party, Meyer was said to have parked his car on an incline and gotten out to relieve himself, a common enough occurrence in the world.
	But instead of urinating by the side of his car, he was said to have stood in front of the car.
	Somehow the brake was released and the car rolled over him, crushing him.
	Death was instant.
	Pretty nasty.
	Okay.
	The speculation was that someone, perhaps a person riding beside him or hiding in the back seat, had stepped on the gas with or without assaulting him before setting the car in motion.
	All right, so.
	There you go, another weird death.
	All the people who die weird deaths, you know, we have to like put them in a special page of our our arsenal information.
	Exit a key witness.
	Yeah, but this is the strange weird story on Alexander who.
	who despised Jackie along with his sister Christina who despised her.
	I was saying when we first returned that it would be unsurprising if his pent up rage against Jackie, his anger, his resentment of his father would not lead to sexual aggression as you're now going to explain.
	I think it's totally psychologically realistic, utterly to the last degree.
	Okay, good.
	I'm glad you think so.
	So Alexander and Jackie were alone on the Scorpios Island.
	That's the small island that Onassis owned.
	And there were servants around, but all the other family members were gone for whatever reason.
	And Jackie was, as she often did, sunbathing in the nude in a small private little garden.
	And Alexander walks in on her and he's totally nude and he forces himself on her and rapes her.
	And first she was taken aback, but then she relented and he gave her multiple orgasms.
	Now this to me is very strange.
	That's how much he hated her, he said.
	I find it all very credible, Sophie, honestly, psychologically, physiologically, the tension between them, I think it, it, for me, has the ring of truth.
	Yes.
	And, you know, interestingly, Jackie had involvements with a lot of men, a lot of men.
	Even while she was with JFK, she had a few revenge relationships.
	And after JFK, she was very fond of Rudolf Nuriev, the dancer who defected from the Soviet Union.
	Russian ballet.
	Russian ballet.
	And she had actually invited him and Margot Fontaine who was his dancing partner.
	She was considerably older than he was.
	She was a British ballerina and also considered the top ballerina in the world.
	She had, Jackie had invited them both to the White House for tea.
	And Nureyev, or Nureyev, as you might say it, created a relationship with her after JFK died.
	And she asked Nureyev, when she was an editor at Doubleday, if he would write his memoirs.
	And he said no.
	And he said, my memoirs, memoirs would have to be truthful, not pack of lies.
	And so he refused.
	He said, If I wrote my memoirs, I would harm you and I would harm other members of your family.
	So I think he had dalliances with other Kennedys as well.
	But he also had great integrity, Sophia.
	I mean, that was the right thing to do.
	Yes.
	Now Jackie had a friendship with Michael Jackson.
	This is very weird.
	So I asked you this last night, why did Michael Jackson decide to lighten his skin and sharpen his nose and all of that?
	And you said,'Because he wanted to look like Diana Ross.
	And I said,'No, at one time he apparently did wanted to look like Diana Ross, but then he changed it to Jackie.
	He admired Jackie more than anyone else, and he wanted to look like her.
	This is a this is a psychotic condition, Sophia.
	This is absolutely abnormal.
	And by the way, you admitted that Harry, that Alexander afterward boasted about bringing Jackie to orgasm multiple times.
	I mean, he was very proud of it.
	It was very much a Greek thing in my opinion.
	It all sounds absolutely accurate to me.
	He, yeah, he he boasted, I think, that he actually raped his it's just his stepmother.
	So, um, all right.
	So Jackie was fascinated with Michael Jackson and you left out, by the way, Maria Callas.
	Of course, was Aristotle's real love in life.
	It wasn't Jacqueline.
	She was just, you know, window dressing.
	She was just a status symbol.
	She was the trophy winner.
	And Alexander also assaulted Maria Callas.
	Yes.
	Yes, in her apartment in Paris and Maria just kept screaming Aristotle's name while Alexander was on top of her because this was the youthful Aristotle that she never had because Aristotle was rather old.
	So anyway And she liked that.
	They all liked it, I guess.
	Yeah, but she said Jackie, I mean the orgasm that this might have been the most satisfying sexual experience of her life, Sophia.
	Who?
	For Jackie and Maria.
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	Come on.
	Jackie had so many men that that were Yeah, I bet the majority did not bring her to orgasm.
	I bet it was profuntery.
	I think at our last conversation, you said having sex with Jackie was like having sex with a youthful young man, you know?
	That's what one person said.
	I mean, I've just repeated bits and pieces for you over the weeks.
	But Yeah, Michael Jackson was very excited when Jackie called him to propose that he write his memoirs for $300,000 for double day.
	And he just poop pooed it.
	He said, In the music world, we count in millions, right?
	Not hundreds of thousands.
	But he did it anyway, and she found that it was extremely weak.
	She was very annoyed with the poor quality.
	She said, She listened to Michael's endless demands and insecurities about the project.
	She also read one disappointing chapter after another.
	Finally, in despair, she told her staff, dealing with the mercurial mister Jackson is like being in a train wreck, worse, an airplane crash.
	But the book, which was Moonwalk, and Jackie was the editor of the book that was released by Doubleday, was sold half a million copies in 14 countries.
	That's how crazy people were about Michael Jackson.
	Yeah.
	So Michael Jackson was also very friendly with Elizabeth Taylor, and Jackie was continually asking him for details about Elizabeth Taylor because she was very envious of Elizabeth Taylor, as was Marilyn Monroe.
	So we had Taylor, Cowherd, and Baker jealous.
	of one another, right?
	Pretty funny.
	All right.
	So what's interesting is, after Michael and Jackie started talking on the phone, a staff member at Double Day says it became a love fest.
	Jackie and Michael were practically cooing at each other.
	I couldn't tell where Jackie's whispery voice ended and Michael's whispery voice began.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah.
	And this is the whole thing.
	All these fake voice effects.
	are called the false feminine.
	Have you ever heard about this, Jim?
	I have.
	Okay, so two famous women clinicians, one was Carol Gilligan and the other was Louise Kaplan, who is a psychiatrist.
	I believe Carol Gilligan was a psychologist and they wrote about female female impersonation.
	Carol Gilligan called it the false feminine and Kaplan called it female female impersonation.
	So there are men who impersonate women.
	And by the way, I'll get into this.
	I'm watching the time.
	Let's hope I can I have the guts to spill these beans by the end of the show.
	But Aristotle Onassis attended a lot of very freakish nightclubs all over the world, and he paid for sex changes for transvestites and transsexuals to impersonate women.
	And they say that these kind of impersonators actually do a better job at dancing and being beautiful women than women themselves.
	So Aristotle Onassis was very into some very weird stuff.
	But anyway, what was I saying right before this, Jim?
	I've scared myself that I'm not going to spill the beans.
	I can't remember.
	Michael Jackson and she whispered.
	What?
	Whispering, the whispering conversation between the two.
	Yeah.
	So Jackie and Michael Jackson, Jackie and Rudolf Nouriev, Jackie, Jackie felt that she knew gays.
	Nouriev was kind of bisexual, but also very, very gay.
	And she had this extended family member, Gore Vidal, who is famously gay.
	By the way, I sent you information on Paul Newman, who had a complete shadow life going on in parallel to his marriage with Joanne Woodward and the children that he had.
	And Gore Vidal was one of his interests, along with Robert Redford, who appears to have been his real interest.
	And who'd have who'd have thought right after Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid what that would lead to?
	Jackie always said about.
	Oh, so Peter Lawford repeated this.
	He said that I have never known Jackie to be so intrigued with someone's sexual orientation.
	She was one of the most sophisticated women in the world.
	Both she and Lee, her sister, included many homosexuals, especially those in the arts, among their best friends Truman Kapoji, Rudolf Nurev, Jackie even had a distant kinship with gay author Gore Vidal.
	She confided to Lawford, who was to die the following year, that when I first met Michael Jackson in New York in the late nineteen seventies, I just assumed he was gay, but he hadn't admitted that to himself yet.
	After seeing him so many years later on his home turf in Encino, I figured he's a figured out that he's gay, but his gayness, I suspect, has a strange twist to it.
	And Lawford asked her what she meant, and she said, It's not like two handsome men who look like Paul Newman and Rock Hudson getting together.
	I have great intuition about these matters.
	Michael is gay, but his gayness is different.
	There's something fishy going on here, something he's hiding from the world, something that will never be revealed in Moonwalk, his book.
	The book will hardly be a candid confession, but a glossy, glitzy thing, Michael's mythology of himself.
	But in spite of what I've said, I he said, Michael Jackson, that at 25 he still was a virgin and had never been kissed on the mouth.
	That's what he said.
	And unfortunately that has certain other aspects.
	Yeah.
	We know that the Jackson Five I can believe Michael Jackson was actually a virgin that he never had a woman.
	I can believe it.
	That definition, yeah.
	But we know from other sources that the Jackson Five had some very brutal, painful treatment as small children.
	And we'll just leave it at that.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Bad stuff.
	So.
	Yeah, Aristotle Onassis was also I'm going to get into this because we don't have that much time and otherwise I'll I'll be considering myself a coward.
	But Aristotle Onassis was actually born in Turkey, but he was part of a Greek minority population in Turkey.
	And there was a lot of unrest and just violent treatment of Greeks when he was a child.
	Greeks were actually hanged and burned.
	And I read in this book, I'm going to try to find it, that the streets smelled of burning Greek flesh.
	It was bad.
	And so he escaped Smyrna, which was the Turkish part of Turkey eventually.
	But before he did, his family home was invaded by the Greek military, the Turkish military.
	And his father was put in a prison and his mother was I don't know where she went.
	I'm still trying to look for this place in the book.
	But anyway, get to this.
	It's here.
	So poor Aristotle was sixteen and the Turkish general, who was accompanied by a very handsome lieutenant, I found it on page 593, requisitioned the Onassus house, kicking out the old grandmother who went to live with relatives.
	But the general and his lieutenant ordered Ari to stay, especially when they learned that he spoke perfect Turkish.
	He was a reasonably attractive boy back then.
	When you see pictures of the young Aristotle Onassis, he was burly, but he was he was rough, tough, handsome looking.
	So the general and lieutenant needed a servant boy, someone to cook for them and bathe them at night after heating the water.
	And Poyter writes here, Before the dawn of the next morning, Ari had been introduced to sodomy.
	So he then kind of stayed in that household because it was his survival.
	And he managed to escape eventually.
	And it says here, Ari never quite recovered from the trauma of the Turkish rape of his native city of Smyrna in nineteen twenty two.
	Three of his uncles were executed, his aunt Maria and her husband Chris Christos Tomas Conyalidis and their daughter perished when the Turks set fire to a church in which hundreds of Christians had sought refuge.
	Okay, so he got out of there, but he was not smart enough to resist the sexual advances of the older Turkish officers who brought food home for him to cook.
	And he found bootleg liquor for them.
	But after he got out of there, he got into, I'm trying to find it here.
	I think it was Greece itself.
	And he became a dishwasher.
	Oh, sorry, it was Argentina.
	1923 he sailed to Argentina landing in Buenos Aires.
	As a newly impoverished young man fleeing from the Turkish Greek Armenian conflicts of the early 20th century, Ari became a dishwasher, a laundry man, a nightclerk, and a telephone operator.
	It was in the latter job that he began to make money by eavesdropping on business deals being transacted, many of them being illegal.
	He made notes, studied the financial pages, and thanks in part to his eavesdropping, stayed several steps ahead of his rivals.
	Suddenly he was making $1,000 on a linseed oil deal.
	He speculated on animal hides and fur and made awesome $10,000.
	He was on his way.
	So that he turned that $10,000 by the time of his death into, or that $1,000 into $1 billion, right?
	So go ahead.
	Deep Crick.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He was a clever guy.
	Clever guy.
	So he was a poor boy who became a rich boy.
	He was also a smuggler, a thief, liar, international playboy and the most glamorous tycoon of the 20th century.
	And he kept many mistresses and boys.
	This is the thing.
	He had apartments.
	He had one in Italy, he had one in Paris, Monaco and Athens, and he had these young boys stashed in these apartments.
	And it's said that he met them when they were thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, right?
	And he kept these were his kept boys and he would go to them occasionally, regularly though, and he would really, really abuse them.
	So he told Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr., who was a good friend of Jackie's, that every Greek man worth his salt has a wife, a mistress, and a beautiful young boy on the side.
	It is our custom.
	Beautiful young boy on the side.
	Yeah.
	But these young boys, they were really, really badly treated.
	He would beat them to a pulp first and then he would mount them and do a lot of damage.
	And one of them had to be put in the hospital after a visit from Ari.
	And yet neighbors would say they heard screams from the apartment saying, No, no, no.
	And then, I love you, I love you.
	So there's a lot of weird psychological stuff going on.
	Awful.
	Yeah.
	So aboard his yacht, Ari would explain that homosexuality, like hunting, was thought to foster masculinity.
	And just for the record, Ari was well in endowed.
	Yeah.
	So he said something to, I'm trying to remember who, oh, it was in the presence of Richard Burton, and there were other people in the room, and he said that, let me find it.
	Say something while I look for it.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	I pity those young boys who had to endure what Ary was dishing out very, very sad.
	The whole story is paid money.
	These boys were paid money.
	Yeah.
	Money, right?
	And he paid very well.
	And at least $500 back in the day when he could have gotten the boy for $50.
	He liked to manhandle the guys.
	and first he paddled their butts and then he did his other damage.
	And it got so bad that at one point only masochists would do his bidding.
	Only what?
	Masochists.
	Oh, masochists.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Do unto others as you would have them do unto you unless you're, you know, sadists and massacres.
	See, that seem to be exceptions to the rule.
	Go right ahead.
	Well, I can't find it now.
	Okay.
	This is awful.
	I know I marked it.
	I marked it because it was so dreadful.
	You can paraphrase it, Sylvia.
	I can paraphrase it.
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay, so I'll just read this.
	Oh, God.
	This is not my opinion, all right of Revolution Radio or Jim Fetzer, but it's very profound, I think, to pedophilia.
	And it says Ari once confessed to Richard Burton, that's the actor, the famous actor, husband of Elizabeth Taylor, in the presence of others.
	I've been known to walk on the wild side, and I just know that you have too.
	We are larger than life figures with passions no single woman can satisfy, not even a series of women.
	For the ultimate satisfaction, and I may be speaking just for myself, I have to go outside the boundaries of usual morality.
	particularly in Paris where unspeakable acts are performed and strange trists are arranged.
	I know what it means to be raped, that is being on the receiving end, and I know what it means to rape others.
	Sex is one thing and can quickly become a routine, but when you're rapeing a virgin ass and causing great pain, you feel like the ruler of the universe.
	That's so disgusting, so despicable.
	Feel like the ruler of the world under those circumstances, Ophelia, that's just appalling.
	Grotesque.
	Of the universe.
	Grotesque.
	Grotesque.
	We're about to conclude our conversation today, Sophia.
	I can't thank you enough for pursuing these issues.
	It's a challenge in many different ways, but I think we benefit a lot from learning about the real history of some of those we viewed as icons and of the past, people we've admired but who had a darker side.
	I consider it a valuable public service to review these matters.
	And I think you do a wonderful job with great delicacy and sensitivity.
	So I'm most appreciative of all your efforts and look forward to our next conversation.
	Give us a few final thoughts, Sophia, before we part today.
	Jim, I don't have any more thoughts, other than don't consider any of that to be the opinion of us, Revolution Radio.
	And it lends perspective to the world.
	to why the most powerful people in the world have to feel even more powerful, right?
	Yeah, just damn this thing.
	Sophia, I thank you.
	Splendid.
	Paul for the first hour.
	Exceptional.
	Everyone, spend as much time with your family, your friend and people you love and care about.
	Don't waste a precious minute.
	We do not know how much time we have left.
	And as I'm now disposed to say.
	Have a wonderful weekend and God willing, we'll be back on Monday and do it again.

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