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July 21, 2025 - Jim Fetzer
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Need to Know News (20 July 2025) with Carl Herman & Brian Davidson
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Carl Herman Mission of Yejo, California.
Brian Davidson, Houston, Texas, Need to Know News, the 20th of July, 2025.
Let's take a look at those topics and have an opening statement.
We're going to go over again with Brian the opportunity for our audience members, if they want to take advantage of Jim Fetzer, the most dangerous mind in America, for critical thinking and conspiracy theories and the skills to discern objective fact from SPIN.
He's got a course for you.
Wars and rumors of wars, Israel's ongoing self-destruction as a political entity with genocide on Gaza plus their lies guarded in a rolling and illegal war of aggression on Iran plus official censorship.
The Epstein client list, and it's gone.
This is not the list you were looking for.
And then domestic and international facts and optics.
Emperor's new clothes, great awakening, great choosing, breakthrough or a gangster, bankster, pediphore, business, and official history, mind control as usual.
And then from COVID, lies of crimes to recognize crimes against humanity and a demand for Maha.
Brian, brother, opening statement.
Well, not much in terms of an opening statement this week.
I had a bunch of work down in Houston that I had to do.
And so I drove back.
It's my wife's birthday yesterday.
And so we got our new pickleball outfits and sports bras and workout clothes and new pickleball rackets that we had to play late into the night last night.
That's fun.
For those of you who don't know, Carl's an avid tennis player and very good at it, I understand.
Pickleball, not so much for me.
As for what's been going on in the news lately, I never get my hopes up, although I can feel the tides beginning to turn with a few developments that took place this week.
Still waiting for that, you know, that litmus test, which is the arrest of the high-profile individual.
We hear things about Comey and Brennan are being investigated.
I guess that's supposed to just be a rumor that's leaked out there in order to satisfy the Trump base into thinking that these people will somehow be held accountable for their actions against the United States of America.
I believe that the way Washington, D.C. fundamentally works is that it's just a negotiation game.
You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
Oh, you've got this.
Okay, well, I'll trade you that for this, and then I'll have a little bit more power, which is fundamentally what I think has taken place with the Epstein files.
You know, okay, Trump has made a deal with the Jews, and yeah, we're not going to let the cat out of the bag in terms of your Mossad operation, but in exchange, you're going to give me this, or you're going to give me that, or you're going to support this or support that, which is how I think DC actually works.
It's such a swamp.
There's never any actual justice that takes place.
Although we have seen at least a re-emergence of interest in Bondi as a potential law enforcer, I think that the ship has sailed already, but it's better than Eric Holder, Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions, Loretta Lynch.
You know, you take the list of old attorney generals that haven't touched anything related to any conspiracy theory ever, and you find yourself pretty empty-handed in terms of prosecutions.
So we've got, what, 20, 30, 40 years of the criminals getting to go free with zero, unless it's true that McCain was assassinated or tried by military tribunal.
I don't know.
I don't know what's true.
I used to believe that kind of stuff was possible.
I just, and we're going to take a look at some Q theory today in the show just to see if there's anything there.
I think we really probably ought to just do a dedicated show on it to determine what passes the smell test and what doesn't.
It's probably a good idea to revisit all of that because probably most of us after 20, after Joe Biden sort of eliminated the theory and maybe things were just much more complex than we can possibly imagine and it was just unable to develop or materialize as it should as it should have.
But I had lunch yesterday at the country club with a guy who was a G14 in the government.
He was actually the procurement director for Dr. Fauci at NIH, along with another of a bunch of other high-profile jobs with Department of Defense.
So he was actually one step below G15, which my understanding is that's where he'd qualify for senior executive service.
So he had a big conversation with me about senior executive service and then history because he was also a history professor.
I think he's going to be a good valuable asset if I can get him motivated to do a show with us or at least begin talking about this stuff because he knew more about the senior executive service than I ever dreamed I could know.
And he was read in on, I'd say, 75% of what we believe in terms of conspiracy theory.
But not fully on board with, as you would expect, a lifelong government employee, not fully on board with every aspect of some of the things that we explore.
So that's sort of my opening statement, big picture stuff.
And I'm looking forward to the show here today.
I think we've got some good notes and some good articles.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever it is that is really happening is going to unfold.
And so there won't be any mystery about it.
We're all going to see it together.
And tomorrow for the show with Joe and Chris, I'll have a lot more since Tulsi dropped her bombshell, which we're going to cover.
And that was just on Friday.
I was just reading an article that Tulsi came out today and said, you know, I've had a lot of whistleblowers come forward since Friday who want to clear the air with what really happened.
So we'll just jump in and see.
All righty.
First up, Jim had this course maybe a year or two ago.
And here he is.
It was during COVID.
It was during COVID.
All right, a while ago then.
And I took that course and loved it.
And Jim Fetzer, a professor emeritus for critical thinking, he is offering this course.
And it is going to be from the 3rd of September, which is on a Wednesday.
And the time is going to be 7 to 9 p.m. Central Time.
And it goes on through the 17th of December.
It's $150.
If you're interested, then go ahead and go for it.
And this is probably a unique opportunity because this isn't going to happen again before we get the breakthrough.
And you can have the most dangerous mind in the world.
Let me talk about a show about that course real quick.
I took the course.
So did Carl, obviously.
It was during COVID that I took it.
I enjoyed it.
I literally sat outside in the evening and had a drink of juice or whatever and just sat there and listened to all his classes.
I didn't have to do a whole lot of homework.
I probably ought to have if I really wanted to let the stuff come in.
And then you learn a lot of critical thinking skills.
You learn a lot about how the mind processes this and how to determine fact from fiction in terms of what to rely on and what not to.
You learn how to recognize, for a large part, lies and fabrications a lot better than most people that are ill-equipped to do so.
And so it's a generally valuable course in terms of being able to read the media.
Now, at the time, it was an incredibly valuable course because if you recall COVID, we were being showered daily with magnitudinal lies that we had never even begun to fathom.
And the question was, how far did the Overton window really open up during that period?
So I would highly suggest taking the course if you're a fan of Dr. Fetzer.
There's quite a bit of psychology involved, and I think it's a worthy endeavor for anybody who's beginning to do their own critical thinking in terms of conspiracy theory.
Yeah, me too.
If I had to draw a historical analogy to the opportunity this is, this would be similar to a couple hundred years ago, if that history is even correct, having an opportunity at the end of Benjamin Franklin's life to have a course with him.
I'd take it.
And in terms of my response, like Brian is talking about how he, what he got out of the course, and for me too, as a professional scholar with 48 years full attention, I've been fully motivated to communicate in such a way that the objective data becomes clear because when that data is clear, then the appropriate action becomes obvious and the official lies and crimes become obvious.
And Jim's approach is backed in historical scholarship, airtight.
And at the same time, with the paradox of that, I have found, similar to Jim, that there's only so many people that we can reach.
I keep on saying that about one in 50 can engage in these types of conversations.
So the end result is that the people listening to this show now, and Brian and Jim and Joe Olson and Chris Weinert, we're messengers.
And we apparently have no power at this time other than the truthfulness and the power of our message.
But when this breakthrough event happens, as I keep on saying, we're all placed around Earth, about one in 50, a couple hundred million of us.
So we'll be perfectly positioned for our service when our skills are wanted.
All right, let's go on to this next topic, which is wars and rumors of wars.
Got a bunch of updates with that.
And if there's anything you want to jump in for, Brian, go ahead.
10 children a day losing a limb in Gaza warns UN-backed body.
And it's just every day we keep on reading that, oh, another hundred people get killed.
And it's an Orwellian illegal war of aggression and war crimes within that war.
And there isn't any other legal analysis.
The only reason that you get snowed with the idea of Israel has the right to defend itself is because there is no opposition.
77-year-old country is bombing a 5,000-year-old city.
And the expansion of the war on Damascus, we are just being seen, shown this ridiculous narrative.
And the former al-Qaeda ISIS terrorist becomes the head of state as the latest puppet.
I do want to play.
Hold on on that one.
Hold on on that one.
Yep, yep, yep.
For any of the listeners that are unfamiliar with it, let's give you a refresher on something called the Greater Israel Project.
Their ambitions are borderline insane, if not completely insane.
If you take a look at what the Greater Israel Project actually attempts to do, they have a plan of becoming the new center fundamentally of the new world order, the new center for trade.
And they want to have a nation that's roughly the size of Texas in terms of from the north to the south, from river to river.
They want to have control of everything east of the Nile, all the way through Syria and all the way up to Lebanon and into Iran.
I mean, it's just a massive, massive plan in terms of the domination that they want to do.
So do your research on the Greater Israel Project and try to figure out what the borders actually look like.
And you'll see that the military IDF soldiers for Israel have a patch on their arm that has the new outline of the state for the Greater Israel Project.
It's just absolutely huge.
Now, and I don't think it's quite the size of Texas, but I need to figure out exactly how big it is.
But that's why you see this stuff breaking loose in Syria.
Now, also, what's interesting is that there was about, oh, I'd have to, I mean, it was a lot of people were killed when basically two factions started a war internally inside Syria this last week.
And the allegations were that Israel was in charge of one of the factions.
And so they're going to try to start a civil war to get Syria to collapse.
And bombing Damascus was a start.
But you can expect that Israel's hell-bent on world domination in terms of how far and how big they're willing to go.
So let's hope this new coalition of nations can slow them down.
I doubt it, but we'll see.
We shall see.
All right, let's give this guy a minute.
On the basis of evidence.
I have reasonable grounds to believe, on the basis of evidence collected and examined by my office, that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister of Defense Joav Galant bear criminal responsibility for the following international crimes.
Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, willfully causing great suffering, serious injury to body or health or cruel treatment, willful killing or murder, and intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population, as well as crimes against humanity of extermination and or murder, persecution and allegations of crimes of committing other inhumane acts.
It's alleged that these crimes were committed in the context of the ongoing armed conflict and as part of a widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population of Gaza pursuant to a state policy.
I have reasonable grounds to believe.
That's the International Court of Justice and for this guy to say that.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's good.
All the wars are that way, though.
And the war crimes within the illegal wars of aggression are continuous.
But, you know, if it's just a script and they're ruling this out now, that's fine.
Brian, did you have more to add for this?
Yeah, the date on it.
It's May of 2024.
The International Criminal Court is basically just known for prosecuting Slanish African warlords.
It really hasn't done much more in terms of what it's capable of.
So there's a new coalition of nations that have gotten together that are beginning to make a plan for how to deny or starve out Israel to prevent them from continuing the genocide.
We'll see how that develops.
But the International Criminal Court has been largely unsuccessful because not many nations sign off.
Like the U.S. and Russia, they don't sign off on the International Criminal Court and they're not willing to enforce an International Criminal Court warrant.
And so Netanyahu would have to find himself literally captured inside of a country that signs off on the International Criminal Court in order for the warrant to be applied.
Besides, Donald Trump has done whatever he can to make sure that the International Criminal Court no longer continues to call the Zionists out as Zionists and basically has pressured the International Criminal Court to back off on enforcement of any issues related to Israel.
So that shouldn't probably surprise anybody there.
Yeah, yeah.
And connected to the UN, I mean, the UN only has one area of legal responsibility and authority, and that's to stop the unlawful wars of aggression.
And they do the Orwellian, the satanic opposite of that.
They facilitate it.
So you get this virtue signaling.
It's the same thing that you see in the U.S. governments and all of the so-called developed nations.
They have virtue signaling, but then their official policies are going to be to operate the empire.
But that is a well-articulated statement of the facts, nonetheless, to the degree that the facts matter.
If you're still supporting Israel in 2025, there is something wrong with you as a person, Caitlin Johnstone.
Yeah, yeah, damn right.
And for what people are being shown again, I'm seeing this two steps forward, one step back type of a dance, and that the public are paying attention.
And when the breakthrough events come, I think that the public will be willing and grateful and relieved of the rest of the leaderships, especially if they get the goodies of things like free energy and health technology breakthroughs.
Criticize.
In that article, just real quick, let's just deal with Johnstone's article because basically she's contending that support for Israel at this point is not just simply holding a different political opinion, but it's a sign of a more profound moral failing and deliberate disregard and empathy for humanity.
Basically, she accuses Israel's supporters of enabling and justifying all these atrocities and lying to protect Israel and that they're complicit in actively trying to silence Israel's critics.
So basically what she's doing is issuing a warning that respecting Israel's angle is Normalizing genocide.
And so, you know, I think she's got a great point to make.
You know, Israel is supposedly a Westernized nation.
They supposedly have that Western style of fair play being aligned with the United States.
Obviously, they don't.
And in my opinion, they're acting like gypsy warlords, like you would expect of some of the lowest forms of humanity out there.
Westerners have a very well-developed sense of fair play.
We believe our handshake and our word is our bond.
And it's just a really well-developed sense of, hey, this is okay to do and this is not okay to do.
Maybe that's in our Christian backgrounds, but we generally have a sense of fair play.
Easterners, especially the Israelis, especially the Israelis that are not born and raised here in America, just simply don't have that.
They just don't have that Western style of fair play.
They believe deception is okay and warranted, and it can actually be a feather in their cap.
They believe that lying and cheating the Goy and getting the Goy to do depraved things is something that's entertainment for them.
You've got a major fundamental flaw in the conscience of an entire nation that so clannishly enforces the concept that the Goy are subhuman cattle and that they're the ones, the chosen ones that are born to rule the earth and therefore they can do whatever they want.
Now, those are massive generalizations about the people of Israel, but it's the attitude that we're after in terms of identifying the problem related to Israelis.
All Israelis are not a plague on all of society.
All Israelis, these are just simply generalizations that we would use that we would probably concede comes from their Talmudian backgrounds with some of the psychopath rabbis that they've had in the past beginning to basically write the educational structures of society from their holy commentators
that have written these books on these commentaries on the Bible that is now called the Talmud.
And so it's inside that platform that they find the justification for raping and murdering children and destroying your enemy's children justified.
And so that's a religious structure that sits underneath it, but it's one that permeates all of being a Jew in terms of what they would expect from one another and how they would expect one to behave as if they were to go to synagogue and meet down with them and think through it with them.
That's just a 10,000-foot overview of it.
And Brian and Caitlin's point is that you can't be guilty of projecting your own virtues onto a different culture is absolutely appropriate.
And part of what it is to be an American is to believe in these values.
And it is so, as a professional historian, it is so similar to the fall of at least what we have in the historical record, the fall of the Roman Republic into tyranny, into the most ridiculous, obscene oligarchy.
And that, as I keep pointing out, is that the U.S. cannot be described in terms of its government as limited under the Constitution, upholding the ideals of the Declaration of Independence and inalienable rights.
But as a professional, the most accurate description of the United States government that I can give is a rogue state empire, lying, looting, annually, as I keep on saying, annually, killing millions, harming billions, and looting trillions.
So for sure, you have to be careful and not to ascribe your values to these people who, as Brian said, they think it's fun to play us.
They know that we're duped.
And if they can dupe us on top of that, all the better.
Yeah, another broad stroke is the difference between, I mean, take a look at what academia in America is currently doing in terms of harvesting quote unquote progressive attitudes.
Colonialization was not such a bad thing everywhere all the time.
Slavery had its benefits in terms of either you're going to sit here and be killed by another African warlord, or we're going to let you go on a ship off to America where you can work for somebody that might actually take care of you.
Maybe.
Our founding fathers had a fundamental problem with slavery, which was addressed multiple times from a lot of different angles and the pulpits.
And Jefferson actually, they didn't have the political will to do it, but even Jefferson recognized early on that slavery was going to be a problem.
It was just not a problem that they could get to at this particular point in time.
Other than that, English-style colonialism actually had a tremendous amount of benefits for a lot of societies that were a mess.
Take a look at India as a nation.
They were generally disorganized in the past, generally ruled with an iron fist, and they came together under colonialism and seemed to have appreciated.
Take a look at Australia, a bunch of criminals that had been sent down to that island for encampment because they're prisoners, and they had to put it together.
Now, has it failed?
Yes, in time, all of it has suffered societal changes.
But what a progressive does now, progressives, their idea is to deconstruct our conservative heritage, deconstruct all of the values that make us who we are today, deconstruct the historical foundations of our society and reconstruct it in a New manner that has no vision in terms of where it's going and what it's going to do.
A good question to ask a progressive when you're out on the streets having debates or even discussions with the new youth of academia is: okay, you're a progressive.
Where is it going?
Where are you headed?
Because conservatives, we look back and we say, okay, we're going, you know, we see why they did what they did.
We look at history as a guide, but a progressive wants to destroy, like an iconoclast, all of history and all of the moral fences and trespasses that we have in society.
And they want to replace it with sort of a, I'm guessing, some sort of new utopian non-private property system.
As you can see, the Democrats are starting to go this way right now with this new guy out of New York who's talking about, you know, no more private property.
The government should have control, communism.
These are old Karl Marx ideas that were so radical at the time and inspired by some very, very dark forces to reshape society using a cover language, just like Orwell's 1984 had a cover language, but to reshape the society for the protection of the oligarch class.
China is a perfect example.
The people are, in my opinion, fundamentally slaves to an oligarchy that calls themselves the Chinese Communist Party, who seem to have total control.
Now, can they protest?
Yes.
Will they disappear?
Yes.
Will there be consequences?
Yes.
Why do you think they have to have a white paper rebellion where they just hold up a blank white?
Because there's no freedom of speech.
And so there's no way to combat this from the other classes.
So that's the big picture of what progressivism really gets you is basically a projection racket for monarchs and oligarchs to control you and control society.
Well stated.
Thank you, brother.
All right, back to the wars.
Criticizing Netanyahu isn't anti-Semitism.
It's a moral obligation.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We're being seen, shown so clearly that this is genocide and war of aggression and war crimes within that.
This is my academic paper with published research via the Claremont Colleges in order to demonstrate those facts.
And again, as a scholar, I mean, we don't get an opportunity for a fair debate.
We would slay anybody in a factual debate, so that conversation has to be constrained.
Israel threatens to use nukes if they face defeat.
Now, that's an important point with the Samson option.
And I think that what we're going to be shown includes the threat of these Israeli nukes if there is a problem.
And that is part of what Q talked about as well, the sum of all fears, which was a nuke inside of a vending machine that was detonated at the Super Bowl.
In final statement, Jewish anti-Zionist Congress calls for a suspension of Israel from the UN.
Great.
Thousand anti-Zionist Jews and non-Jews in Vienna?
Yeah, all war crimes.
Yeah.
Repeated violations of UN resolutions.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so it's all ridiculous.
It all seems to be that exactly as Brian states, coordinated to support this broader Israel project.
NATO chief Mark Root at the White House, really big U.S. decision to arm Ukraine.
And we've seen reversals of Trump on Epstein and now support this war in Ukraine.
So I think, and we're going to get into that analysis with Mike King, but I think what we're being shown is the possibility of Trump will either quote unquote take one for the team, or he may really have been guilty of diddling kids and to expose that whole system by going down himself.
Or Trump is going to be shown as capitulating to the Israelis and to support the war in Ukraine and to support a war on Iran and to back off Epstein because of the threat of Israel using a clandestine nuke program to detonate and to kill civilians.
Finally, with this war, another important aspect, California's deadly fires exposed by top forensic expert.
This is a 23-minute interview, and I recommend it.
This is forensic arborist Robert Braem.
He spent 50 years as an expert with trees, and he looks at these so-called fires, like this photograph that you see here, and he can point to the trees and say what type of tree it is.
And he says, you know what?
You can just go ahead and grab leaves from that tree and, you know, just set it on fire with a cigarette lighter.
And you'll see that they'll just go up instantly.
But yet, here they are in the midst of these fires completely intact and not burned while you see these structures disintegrated into ash.
And his conclusion is that everything that should have burned didn't.
Everything that should not have burned did.
I'll just show you a couple of photos from this.
And when there was a in the California fires in 2018, I had heavily promoted these two retired fire captains saying that and they went through their area in NorCal and pointed out exactly the same things that this forensic arborist has and the impossibility and the energy required to melt aluminum and glass is not available in a wild fire.
This is not possible with a wildfire.
And these two California fire captains, they both had the same testimony: is that out of all of their experience with fires and these trees burning from the inside out, that this is not categorically not any fire, but it is some sort of a directed energy weapon because it's not physically possible to be a fire.
And if you would like to have a nice presentation, 23 minutes, which definitively or sufficiently goes through the evidence to demonstrate that this is a great interview, and I fully recommend it, that whatever this energy was,
it was attracted to metal and interacted violently with metal and did not interact with the biological structure of what would burn in an ordinary fire.
Brian, your thoughts, brother?
Okay, so there was a lot of, okay, we had Israel threatens nuclear action if they are to be threatened with elimination.
Okay, let me point out on that that that does not surprise me one bit that they would be interested in the Masada complex.
In 100 AD, in the area of Masada, which is one of the most popular tourist destinations for Israeli citizens, a thousand Saqqari who were Jewish assassins committed mass suicide rather than be taken alive.
They're considered to be heroes.
And so thus the term Masada complex, because of what happened to the Saqqari.
Now, what was interesting is when they went down, they took the non-Saqqari, non-supportive Jews with them.
In other words, they were willing to murder Jews that were not Jewish assassins just because they weren't in the club, but they were still Jews.
So the radical assassins of Israeli society, people that are willing to die for their cause, had basically gained enough political control where they became through threatening and through power and through force,
the dominant people in society, and they've been made heroes over the years.
So if Israel threatens nuclear force against the whole rest of the world, it doesn't surprise me one bit that they would be willing to burn it all down prior to losing instead of losing what they feel that they're entitled to in terms of their ability to rule all the Goyam under threat of punishment.
Next story.
NATO chief Mark Root at White House.
Really big U.S. decision to arm Ukraine.
This whole program, in my opinion, has been a very large money laundering operation for a long time.
We had hoped that Trump, after taking office January 20th of this year, would have pulled the plug on Ukraine funding.
Putin has become more aggressive and ambitious than ever before in terms of ending this threat to his borders on that southern border of Ukraine.
And it appears that Russia is beginning to show signs of protest against Putin for his position internally, his economic policies, and some of his policies related to controls of society.
And so I think that what he's doing is trying to end the program in Ukraine once and for all, finally, with the same sort of stroke that he should have taken all the way back two or three years ago when this whole thing started.
He should have just ended it quickly, which we knew they had the capability of doing.
McGregor had exposed that.
Even Scott Bennett had exposed that.
We knew that they were capable, but they were sort of like a cat playing with a mouse in terms of they were just playing with their prey before they took it down.
And Paul Craig Roberts and other international commentators couldn't figure out why they weren't just going ahead and pulling the big trigger and eliminating the problem.
Well, in the Ukraine situation, it was because the people still, he still believed that most of the people in the northern regions, especially Donesk of Ukraine, identified with Russia, but were part of a political entity known as Ukraine that had now become westernized and that they would turn back to Russia.
Now is a good time to end the conflict because Ukraine has seen massive desertions of troops, defectors going to Ukraine and huge amounts of death in terms of their citizens.
So sending weapons to Ukraine, while that sounds like you're arming Ukraine, and it very well may be considered to be arming Ukraine, they don't have any soldiers left to deploy that.
And so it's a bit of an ineffective move.
And it seems to be, in my opinion, a bit of a Trumpish type of power play to try to get the Russians back to the negotiating table.
Now, of course, the Russians have no reason to negotiate because in their opinion, ever since Minsk, why negotiate with a liar?
Why negotiate?
How can you have a good deal with a bad guy in terms of if you don't respect that they're going to live up to their word anyway, what's the point in making any sort of contractual arrangement to give anything away?
And I think that that's one of the problems that Trump inherited, whether he's a good leader or not, Capable of ending the war in Ukraine, he still had a credibility problem that was born in people like Victoria Newland and other secretaries of state going way back for this political control agenda of Ukraine by Western nations.
This was Zelensky is a puppet.
He was set into place by Western forces.
Basically, we assisted with a coup and a color revolution to get him installed and then used him as a puppet to start the war.
And so the whole thing has been a puppet war.
Trump has been unable to get us out of this mess as he claimed.
And so it was a big decision, but I think Trump is just basically arguing for trying to get back to the tables.
As for the wildfires, I don't know how they're doing it, but I believe they're doing it.
I think probably some satellite balloon structure with some sort of death ray that interacts with some sort of invisible nanotech that is deployed through chemtrails and some sort of like a directed microwave that attacks water, which is why you see the inside of trees burning and you see water pipes exploding and you see metal pipes exploding as well.
That's all I really have to say about it because obviously these fire people know a lot more about this stuff than I do.
But I do believe that they're capable of deploying that sort of stuff.
Weather warfare is in the same category as the ability to adjust, manipulate large forces such as hurricanes and cloud seeding structures.
Yeah, and in terms of what we do as so-called conspiracy theorists too, the easy part is to demonstrate that the official story is a lie and whatever it is is going on with those fires, it's easy to go ahead and definitively or sufficiently demonstrate that these cannot be produced.
The physical evidence is not possible through a physical fire, so it's something else and then connected to the Samson option of Israel.
If you consider that there is a component, our opponents are evil, and then if you define that evil as a service to self and seeing everything outside of the individual as things,
as resources to exploit for one's own benefit, and if these types of people are going to lose, then the outcome is that they're faced with their evil and their complete loss of no longer being able to get anything for themselves.
If they have that degree of a lack of empathy, a lack of connection, a lack of love, then for me, it makes total sense that they would go ahead and cause as much destruction on the way out as possible.
And that would be their claim to fame, at least.
So these opponents are respectable in terms of their power.
And in terms of finding a way out, well, we'll consider that for especially with this topic on with Q. All right, the Epstein client list.
Let's take a look at that.
Oh no, smoking gun letter proves Trump administration had the Epstein list.
And this is February 27th, 2025.
And this is from DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
Dear Director Patel, before you came into office, no, this is from Bondi.
Before you came into office, I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
In response to this request, I received approximately 200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs.
Those flight logs had names of the people.
Epstein's list of contacts.
Well, who would be on that list?
And a list of victims' names and phone numbers.
So the idea that there isn't any list is refuted by Bondi herself.
And this is important.
Senator Ron Wyden has revealed that a single Jeffrey Epstein-linked bank account moved nearly $1.1 billion through 4,725 wire transfers.
He says the Treasury Department is holding a file that could unravel Epstein's entire financial web, potentially the blueprint behind his child trafficking operation.
Well, that could be a potential empire ender.
False, malicious, defamatory.
Trump demands the unsealing of the Epstein files, threatens lawsuit after the Wall Street Journal hit peace.
So the Wall Street Journal had an article saying, yeah, so we have this birthday card that Trump sent to Epstein on his 50th birthday, which has a bunch of things of them liking women, underage women themselves, and the idea that they should keep secrets.
Well, creating a public demand for this list is a really good cafe-fellmania optic in order to create demand.
A.G. Bondi announces she will release pertinent Jeffrey Epstein grand jury testimony after Trump calls for Epstein documents release.
And Bondi did ask the appropriate court for the release of those documents.
So we shall see what goes on there.
Oh, and then this is good with the history of Bill Clinton.
Play a minute of this.
Bill Clinton.
So he goes to Princeton, instantly gets an SA charge, if you know what I'm talking about, the SA charge, right?
So you study these guys.
They have that thing that happens early on in their life.
So now they got something they can control you with.
Yeah, that's when you're younger, more vulnerable, and it's like, listen, we'll promise you all these things.
Do what we need you to do.
Pull the right triggers.
We'll take care of you.
So the investigation of the JFK assassination was done by the Warren Committee.
Oops, let's try restarting this.
Because this is good background about how they blackmail young political leaders and to control them.
They have that thing that happens early on in their life, so now they got something they can control you with.
Yeah, especially when you're younger, more vulnerable, and it's like, listen, we'll promise you all these things.
Do what we need you to do, pull the right triggers, we'll take care of you.
So, the investigation of the JFK assassination was done by the Warren Committee.
There was one guy in the entire committee that said, no, this isn't the real story.
One guy voted no.
That guy one day got in a plane and was never heard from again.
He disappeared.
Do you know who drove him to the airport?
Bill Clinton.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Dude.
That's insane.
Yeah, dude.
It's really crazy if you study it because everything is data, dude.
Yeah.
Can they compromise you sexually?
Are you a psychopath?
Would you just commit horrible crimes against your own family just to get ahead?
And most of these people would do it and not even think twice about it.
Oh, gosh.
So evil.
But here's the...
And here is Mike King of the anti-New York Times.
And he is of the opinion that what we're seeing is a show.
This is the New York Times president-fueled conspiracist, Will They Revolt over Epstein?
And the idea that Trump is losing a lot of support over this.
And what Mike is pointing out is that these conversations are drawing attention and that what we're seeing is he's promoting one of two options are going to turn out of this.
And he says it's all staged.
And that's my feeling, too, is that we're seeing a script.
So scenario one that Mike points out, and he says this is less likely.
Trump takes one for the team and we come to learn that Trump was himself being blackbailed by Mossad over inappropriate relations with an Epstein prostitute.
Or two, more likely, it will be revealed that the actor playing Netanyahu has been threatening Trump with the Samson option in the form of nuclear devices hidden in American cities.
And that would be the sum of all fears that we're talking about.
So with what is happening, it is the fog of war.
We don't know much.
But again, I keep pointing out that the political effects, we can measure that, the destruction of the official narrative, more and more questions that people have, and the withdrawal of consent.
That is for damn sure.
Brian, your thoughts?
Well, under the hood here, we have a question as to how does big deals and does big do big deals get done?
Okay, I've been involved in several multi-million dollar deals over the years, especially back in the day when I was a salesman.
And I can tell you that one of the largest accounts I ever had, I lost.
I took good care of the account.
It was a big account.
I made a lot of money on it.
And I lost the account because I was working with the guy that was below the top, top, uppermost guy.
And top, top, uppermost guy was basically offered all expenses paid hunting trip on a jet by my competitor that included whatever nefarious activities take place.
And I lost the account not because of incompetence, not because I deserved to lose the account, but simply because I was outplayed by a competitor who had bigger backing from bigger vendors that were willing to throw more money at this particular individual to bribe them to fire me.
It happens.
I've seen through the years that many of the most successful brokers in the industry that I worked at are successful because they take their buddies that they meet at the big country clubs and the big restaurants out to the strip clubs and wine and dine them until they get their business.
That's the nature of the business.
Seedy?
Yes, it is seedy.
Does it work?
Yes.
When you have psychopaths with huge opinions of themselves that are narcissists, that are willing to lose money because they're swimming in it in order to get the person that they like rather than the competent person in place.
It happens all the time.
Now, what was Trump's Plaza Hotel all about?
He had parties.
According to party organizers, Trump himself was not a partaker of the cocaine-fueled or cigarette smoking or alcohol drinking.
But the parties definitely had a large number of young, moderately aged women.
And how do you think Trump got into Miss USA pageants and modeling pageants?
It's all then part of the nature of the big business world.
You look at any major city and what do you see?
You see real estate.
You see massive skyscrapers and buildings and structures.
Well, every one of them has a man at the top that is probably borderline genius in terms of business capabilities, that has generations of money behind them, that can have whatever they want and do whatever they want.
And the one currency that seems to be traded among these high-profile individuals seems to be young girls, young even boys.
I mean, if you look at the Franklin affair, it was young boys, but there's a power structure in the world that trades on this currency.
And that's what's being revealed about this Epstein story.
That's how does that power structure work?
And why would an intelligence agency want to have their fingers in the pie in terms of a power structure?
Very easy, very simple to make sure their preferred partners get the contracts and get the bids to do the jobs so that our buddy-buddy system can continue to go on.
I know a man that is serving 15 years right now for being involved in something of this nature.
He was actually a friend of mine.
I knew he was involved in it.
I kept my distance, but I Still had lunch with him and talked with him and did some business with him.
And he ended up going down because he took the bait.
And he ended up going down for financial crimes.
But I knew of other crimes that were done to what I would consider to be willing young people that may or may not have reached the full age of consent.
And I was aware that there was something less than noble going on in the background with some of these people, but it was a currency in which that nature, that financial nature industry worked on.
So when it comes to the Epstein files, you have to remember that Trump was sort of the king of the Plaza Hotel parties, Trump Plaza, back in the 80s and 90s.
He met Melania at those parties.
Epstein was also kicking around at those parties, as was a lot of people.
And so Epstein list.
Does it contain the names of people who are innocent?
Probably.
Does it contain the names of people that Epstein had roped into some level of program?
Yes.
But what we're looking for here are crimes.
And we need the elements of the crime.
On this day, at this time, this person in this county did this, which is a violation of that.
That is a charging instrument.
Now, it takes about 10 minutes to type up a charging instrument for an officer of the law.
And if somebody had access to whatever it is the FBI took and concealed and hid, it wouldn't take long to sit down and figure out the crimes related to the charging instruments.
But the problem is the crimes are not all sexual crimes.
That's a part, that's like the frosting on the cake.
But I think what Epstein really represented was a money laundering structure that accessed some of the most powerful underground structures in the world to help these rich partners of theirs protect their fortunes from Uncle Sam.
So where are the biggest crimes?
What are the biggest crimes?
Now, is it possible that somebody got involved with Epstein and did all of the above?
Sure.
Is it possible that somebody got involved with Epstein and did a little of this and a little of that?
Sure.
But is it possible that the entire structural network of big power would come down by like dominoes falling all over the world overnight if people started to talk about how these structures really worked?
And what would that do to the global economy?
Would it result in justice?
Yeah, maybe, but it certainly can't be a French Revolution type, off-with your head type justice.
We have to leave that up to our Department of Justice to figure out what that is.
And what I want to see are charging instruments drawn up.
I haven't seen a charging instrument drawn up on Brennan or Comey.
I haven't seen a charging instrument brought up on Fauci, Obama.
You name it in terms of the long, long list of people who have committed crimes and that have been ignored.
Well, just think of each crime as a chip in the game and it can be traded for this or that.
That's to me the big picture of what Epstein's all about.
And yes, were people killed?
Were children probably fed to the fishes because they wanted to go home to mom because they were scared because of the weird old man with his wiener hanging out?
Yeah.
I imagine it took place and I imagine it was filmed.
Are there people that are just part of the power structure that are absolute sick satanic psychopaths like in the movie Hostel?
Yeah.
Yeah, I believe they exist.
Are there pedophile networks?
Yeah, they exist.
Is there blackmail operations?
Yeah, they exist.
Combine it all.
Intelligence agencies and everything?
And what do you get?
You get Etsy and you get sort of the ultimate tidal wave of abuse of power structures.
And what is power?
Power is the power to break the law.
I mean, how else are you going to define power?
Power is the power to build what you want, do what you want, coerce who you want, and frankly, break the law and get away with it.
That's the world's version of power.
I think power is something completely different.
That's a conversation for another day.
Anyway, that's the way I see the Epstein program.
Well stated, brother.
Yeah, the lower level, the most basic level is going to be the pay-to-play, and that is involved.
And the highest level of this is not only going to be the sexual exploitation of the children, but is going to be the acquired discipline to torture children, maximizing their adrenaline output, and then killing them, harvesting the blood, and then there you got your adrenochrome.
And the testimony of the adrenochrome is that it gives them high, but in the dark spaces.
Now, I don't know what that means exactly, but we got the whole spectrum there.
And in terms of the simplicity of the pay-to-play, my dad, he had his own company as a mechanical engineer specializing in water treatment systems.
For example, he designed and installed Disneyland's water treatment system.
And in terms of the South, he, I don't remember the circumstances, but one day when we were teenagers, we asked him, how's your contracts going?
How's it looking?
And he told a story.
He said, you know, I think I've just submitted my last bid for the southern part of the United States because over years, we didn't get the bid.
But what we've discovered in the process of the analysis of who does get the bids, it's all southern companies and they rotate.
And they certainly aren't the cheapest contract, and they certainly aren't the best equipment.
So, this is he called it the good old boy's network, and that he was never going to break into that, no matter how good his equipment, no matter how good the deal was that he offered.
And so, he just surrendered that as an area that was outside of his control and controlled by forces that were immoral.
All right, let's go on.
It's a dirty world.
Yeah, has been up through all recorded history as far as we can tell.
Domestic and international facts and optics, and the idea that we're either seeing a great breakthrough, a great choosing, a great awakening, or if this is just business as usual, Tulsi drops the smoking gun and Russia Gate investigation.
Now, this is huge, and this was just on Friday, and that these documents demonstrate that there was an official position of the United States government in December of 2016, that there was no influence of Russia on the election, and that in a White House meeting with Obama, the key players of the government orchestrated RussiaGate.
And that if that is the case, and what Tulsi is talking about as the DNI, is she's saying it is treasonous.
Treason is an overthrow of the government, which I agree would be the applicable charge, and this coming week should be on fire.
And I keep on talking about the net political effects that I see still sinking.
Approval rating for the Democrats in Congress drops below 20%.
Wow.
Like you wouldn't think it would get much lower, but it's continuing to drop as people are being repulsed by the obvious bullshit out of their leadership and that they're not receiving anything that you see the Democratic approval rating that they disapprove 72%.
This seems to me orchestrated, because I keep saying it, somebody who was paying attention for 18 years as a volunteer political lobbyist.
No political strategist would recommend this path, and every political strategist would orchestrate something to give at least the appearance of virtue to the public.
Another conspiracy theory comes true.
California bill passes to buy fire-ravaged palisades for low-income apartments.
Yeah, you know, if you open up the borders for all these people, they got to live somewhere.
And that is exactly what we have seen.
Extraordinary but true.
We had on the show this week with Joe and Chris the fact and the documentation that there is no building going on six months after the dew attack on the Pacific Palisades.
40 months, the eternal FOIA backlog.
Wait times for public records have become so long they undercut the accountability FOIA is meant to provide.
Exactly.
If you got to wait over three and a half years to get the document, then they can cover up a lot.
That's the average wait time in days for different agencies.
And if you're going to have an empire, of course, you have to control all the agencies.
EU Commission funds legacy media.
And another example of the circular economy, the EU funds journals and think tanks whose reports are then used by the EU and member states to justify their policies.
And that is how they do it.
And that's how we've talked about it with USAID, is that you fund the type of quote-unquote research that you want, and then you use that research as the political party in order to justify the policies that you're pushing.
So you pay for the propaganda to support the policies of the empire, and then in the political and the media aspect of the empire, you point to that paid research as the justification for the policies.
On and on it goes.
London Platinum lease rate surges to 29%.
Market may already be broken.
Well, this is David Jensen, and I've looked at his work for probably a decade or more.
And the idea is this, is that there is a growing physical shortage to deliver physical metals in these markets.
And he's pointing to is that, hey, if you want to lease platinum, you're going to have to pay a 29% interest rate.
That is crazy.
And what it means is that these people have, let's see, I think that this is now we've got another one coming up.
That these people have suppressed the price of physical assets by issuing these paper promises to pay derivatives, gambles on future prices without the backing of the physical assets.
And if people demand the physical asset for whatever reason, then all these people are shown to be fraudulent.
And especially the too big to fail banks that own about a quadrillion, that's a thousand trillions of these derivative contracts.
And speaking of the top of the money chain, breaking Jerome Powell, the chair of the Federal Reserve Board.
He is criminally referred for alleged perjury about a $2.5 billion building renovation.
So we've covered this like three or four times that Jerome Powell and the Federal Reserve said, oh yeah, we need to upgrade our building.
Yeah, yeah, we got to upgrade it.
So it's going to cost $2.5 billion.
$2,500 million to upgrade your DC property, huh?
And of course, as Brian was talking about, that this is just a ridiculous example of money laundering.
It's not going to cost That much, obviously.
And in terms of being able to demonstrate that the Federal Reserve, even without this, is that the fundamental fraud that we're examining is you're calling debt money.
We have an escalating growth of total debt, not just the government, how much that they owe through their debt securities, but all of the economy has an explosion of debt.
And that is because what we use for money is literally debt.
And it is charged with interest.
So we should stop doing that.
And if you want me to brief you on the reforms, there are a bunch of ways of doing that.
And that's the article for doing it.
And this next topic of COVID.
Brian, your thoughts, brother?
Well, an extension, there was a lot there, and there was a lot of conspiracy theories there.
So let's just take a little extension of the last segment where I talked about the nature of these power and these deals.
We ask ourselves, if somebody's trying to accomplish something that appears to be impossible, which is, for instance, I want to clean out this ghetto of all these swamps and rats and people.
If I want to clean out this ghetto and redo a commercial building project inside the ghetto, somebody is going to have to be able to manufacture enough political will to displace all those people.
And so manufactured consensus is an operation of intelligence agencies.
Intelligence agencies will come up with a plan to solve your problem if you don't have the political will to do this or that.
What do you think false flags are?
They are manufactured events that provide the political will to spend money on security apparatus or spend money on new laws and spending structures that the political will didn't exist to do before.
October 7th was a false flag that created the political will for Israel to basically start the invasion of Gaza.
9-11 created the political will for the passage of the Patriot Act.
Even the small school shootings, Sandy Hook created the political will to spend a lot of money on different security apparatus programs that were controlled by big vendors and created the political will to keep driving the security spending apparatus with the whole idea of a school shooting,
which Sandy Hook was modeled after another one, which has been duplicated over and over and over because again, it creates the political will to accomplish something that wouldn't have been able to be accomplished on its face.
So who controls the psychological operations that plan and execute these programs?
And the answer is many times they're divisions of our governments.
They're divisions of Intel agencies.
Why do you think Dr. Fetzer would be his book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, would be eliminated from Amazon's bookstores?
Well, because the Intel agencies have connections here and connections there.
Why is it that some platforms can be censored and other platforms can't?
Because there isn't an influence structure in place that can control this particular owner, this particular decider.
And so they'll make plans to get control of that particular portion of the infrastructure.
And probably the plans will include some sort of blackmail or some sort of stage setup or some sort of staged events.
So once you begin to understand the puzzle pieces related to the directed energy weapons, there's no political will to clean that land.
There's no political will to do that new building project until these agencies are accessed for their ability to engineer a false flag and execute that false flag so that the public seems to generally so that you've manufactured the consensus.
Yeah, well stated.
And I think that's exactly what we're looking at.
And we may even be seeing the reverse of that through White Hats orchestrating these inverted false flags.
I don't know what you would call it, but it is to expose these people.
But we shall see.
All right, we got one topic left.
Four updates from COVID vision crimes to recognize crimes against humanity.
Shocking.
Pediatricians get $200 to $600 per child for vaccines.
Some earn a million plus yearly.
We have covered this before, and this data here demonstrates, again, that the risk of disease death is far less than the risk of the so-called vaccine death.
And that this type of financial compromise in any ethical system would have to be disclosed to the consumer.
That would be for the parents to understand that the so-called health advice given to the parent for their child, their helpless child, is going to be influenced by the financial incentives to the doctor.
Are clotshots killing 200,000 people Per year in America, that might be the data.
And again, what we need is we need legitimate research that is going to be independent of the propaganda.
And if we get that, as promised by RFK2, then there's going to be no more of these, of the poisons, of the multiple poisons.
But it hasn't happened yet, but we'll keep pointing to the data.
And at least people can come to the conclusion that the data is sufficient to withdraw consent from the official program and to demand arrests because the prima fascia data is that they are poisoning us.
Kennedy blocks.
The WHO Trojan horse emergency powers treaty warns of a global medical surveillance of every human being.
Are we going to be subject to a technocratic control system that uses health risks and pandemic preparedness as a Trojan horse to curtail basic democratic freedoms?
Well, okay.
That's a good step.
Won't be enough.
But again, in the two steps forward, one step back type of dance that we seem to be taking, okay.
It's noteworthy.
Bombshell research ivermectin may cure Parkinson's disease, mood disorders, and attention and deficit disorder.
Now, again, I don't know anything about this stuff, but people who do have academic training and professional experience are pointing to this as possibilities.
And with the anecdotal research, which would mean this is not a controlled research protocol, but just reporting on, hey, these people are trying this and these are the results and that's noteworthy.
And again, in an independent system, you would get the legitimate research on these options.
And then we would eventually get to what is the, what really helps for human health.
Brian, your thoughts?
Well, I would say that what really helps with human health is healthy living.
I hate to say it.
It's so simple.
But if you think that our institutions have not been corrupted, including the medical institutions and the pharmaceutical institutions, then you've got a lot more faith than I do.
I understand how these systems and structures are corrupted.
And take a look around and start to count on your hands how many institutions still operate as they were originally intended to operate.
There's a few components out there that do.
I think the First Amendment still kind of works the way it's supposed to.
The Second Amendment still kind of works the way it's supposed to.
Third, fourth, fifth amendment still works the way it's supposed to.
There are components that are institutions in and of themselves of our structure here in America that do appear to work right now.
But the problem is they're being eclipsed by other institutions that have been built into our government to, again, manufacture the consensus for childhood vaccines.
What is the primary motivator?
Oh, the doctor says I need to keep my kids safe.
We need to be safe from the other kids.
It's all for your safety, ma'am.
Move this direction.
It's for your safety.
Stay away from the police officers.
Don't confront the police officers.
It's for your safety.
Don't speed.
It's for your safety.
Don't not use your blinker.
It's for your safety.
There are structures all over society where the propaganda has driven a safety set mindset.
When I was a kid, we didn't wear helmets.
It was not unsafe.
Maybe we did some stupid stuff.
But then as soon as there's a couple of accidents, here you go.
Now we've got new laws for everybody and everybody has to comply.
The problem that we've got is the fundamental problem we got is not the nature of the laws themselves.
It's the lack of enforcement of the laws.
And the second problem that we've got right now is that we've got too many laws.
Remember, every politician that enters Washington, D.C. has some ambition to have a new law named after them.
So everyone spends their lifetime or their political life cycle trying to put their names on new laws.
And so you add, add, add, add, add.
Ask yourselves why the original Puritans left England and came over here.
There was too many laws.
Now, those laws mixed with religion and politics, but there was just simply too many laws to continue to function.
There was too many taxes to support too many laws.
And society wasn't nearly as fun or elegant or lively or wonderful as it ought to.
They no longer had the liberty because of the restrictive nature of the king's laws.
We're descending back into that.
And it is a constitutional requirement that when our government gets so big that it no longer offers us the opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that we are to form a proper militia and overthrow and destroy that government and replace it with one that will.
So we do have responsibilities as citizens, whether or not that means we have the will to kill or to act as a mob or a bunch of vigilantes, I would argue under certain circumstances, I think it is permissible.
Just like from a religious perspective, it was permissible for the American colonies to rebel against the British because the British had begun to act like tyrants.
And this was every pulpit in the land in Boston and all across the 13 colonies.
Back in the day, every pulpit in the land began talking about how it is necessary at Some point in time, this is what the Declaration of Independence was.
It is necessary to free yourself of the tyranny of a government gone rogue.
Now, the tyranny that we live under is a different breed of cat today.
It's more Orwellian, it's more of a mental tyranny.
And this is why we do the shows that we do, is to help people break out of that mental tyranny and those structures that make people believe that they need to go get three doses of the clot shot in order to be able to function properly in society.
We break down the mental structures by exposing them to light.
And hopefully, that helps wake people up from their stupor so that we can create a more of a movement towards transparency and a movement towards repairing our society with truth rather than with propaganda.
We're the good guys.
That's what I'm saying.
Very good.
Thank you.
We'll go into final thoughts.
Hang in there, Patriots.
It may be that this coming week is going to have explosions.
Maybe that is going to retreat a little bit.
I don't know.
But as I keep on saying, I do see the trend of the events is something is going to break.
The tension is ratcheting up more and more.
The public are seeing more and more.
And I do conclude is that we are seeing a script and that don't worry about it too much.
Don't take it personally.
It's been scripted your entire life.
Nothing has been organic.
All the events of history that you've witnessed have been manipulated and controlled and then spun and then put into your textbooks.
Nothing has been real.
So hang in there, exercise your faith, and enjoy the last remnants of the empire.
Brian, your final thoughts.
Yeah, we do live in an interesting time.
My final thoughts on this are simple.
We tend to villainize things that we don't understand.
And especially it seems to be the first step of most conspiracy theorists, once they begin to have their eyes opened up, is to just throw the whole baby out with the bathwater in terms of your critical thinking skills.
Now everything's a conspiracy.
Everywhere we look up and we see the sky is blue.
Has the sky always been blue?
Have the tides always had these lines drawn on our shores?
What is it going to change?
When, where, why?
I would say that the more I have found myself sinking into conspiracy theory, the more I found myself breaking out in terms of understanding who the real enemy is and how the real enemy works and how the real enemy can be identified, structured, and fought against.
Again, it's the institutions that need to be destroyed from this iconoclast perspective.
And so how do you destroy institutions?
You expose them, corrupt institutions, you expose them to light.
And internal change, hopefully when things get messed up enough, there is no choice but to reform the institution.
Medicine is a corrupt institution.
Our CIA is a corrupt institution.
Our FBI is a corrupt institution.
Our DOJ is a corrupt institution.
Our office of the president is a corrupt institution.
And the only way we're going to get back to a starting point is a revolution of institutional destruction.
And that can only be accomplished with words and with people uniting together against something that is considered to be tyrannical.
Very good.
And when it does happen, I think it'll happen in an emperor's new clothes moment.
All right.
Well, thank you, Brian.
Thank you, Patriots.
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