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THe Raw Deal (18 July 2025) with co-host Paul from CA and special guest John Hankey

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	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 18th day of July 2025, with my special featured guest, John Hankey, and my co-host, Paul from California.
	We're going to begin with some of the stunning stories of our day.
	Really fascinating stuff.
	Unlike Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump continues, commits political suicide, sonar 21, reports Trump having posted this rather lengthy statement.
	The radical F Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like with a fake and fully discredited steel dossier, the Lying 51 intelligence agency, the laptop from hell, which Dem swore it come from Russia.
	No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom.
	And even the Russia, Russia, Russia scam itself, a totally fake and made-up story used in order to hide crooked Hillary Clinton big loss in the 2016 presidential election.
	These scams and hoses are all the Democrats are good at.
	It's all they have.
	They are no good at governing, no good at policy, no good at picking winning candidates.
	Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue.
	The new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	And my past supporters have bought into this bullshit.
	Hook, line, and sinker.
	They haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being conned by the lunatic left for eight long years.
	I've had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history.
	And all these people want to talk about what's talking about him by the fake news and the success starved Dems is a Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
	Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats' work.
	Don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success because I don't want their support anymore.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Make America great again.
	Well, anyone could say Trump foreign policy is in shambles.
	He promised to end these stupid wars when he's sending more money and bombs to Ukraine, threatening even to give them long-range missiles to hit Moscow and St. Petersburg.
	He's, of course, continuing to support the genocide in Gaza and even now has opened a new front by bombing uranium enrichment sites in Iran, even though our own intelligence agency confirmed what the Iranians declare.
	They're not seeking nuclear weapons.
	They're not trying to develop nuclear weapons.
	One wonders to what extent the man himself has been conned.
	And now he's absolutely fumbling the Jeffrey Epstein story.
	It is remarkable to go back and think about during the campaign, parties like Cache Patel were going on Fox hundreds of times, talking about draining the swamp, exposing the deep sea.
	And a centerpiece was to share the Epstein files.
	He went on Bannon's war room again and again, hundreds of times, talking about releasing the Epstein files.
	And then all of a sudden, they're not going to release the Epstein files.
	There's nothing to see.
	Just move on.
	Paul, what is your take?
	I mean, I think the idea Trump is committing political suicide by attacking his own supporters for violating promises he made in what they believed he was going to follow through, but has not, I think he's making a shambles of it all.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, if Trump didn't have any chutzpah before, I think he's probably certainly absorbed it from all the people he serves so well.
	To call this whole thing a hoax.
	It's brilliant, Jim.
	Brilliant strategy.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah.
	It is.
	Can I throw in?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, John, of course, I'm going to bring you in.
	Let me just say.
	You have to wonder what's on that tape that allows Putin to intimidate and dominate Trump the way he has for the last eight years.
	But I think you have to figure out what could Trump possibly be afraid to have released.
	And that's what's on the tape that the steel dossier says Putin has.
	I'll add one more thing real quick, Jim, and then please continue.
	Go ahead.
	It's worth remembering that back in the day, I believe it was around 2006 or so, there was that non-prosecution prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein, where there actually was, and I don't know if it's unprecedented in the history of the Justice Department, but they actually titled it a non-prosecution agreement.
	so he ended up serving that basically house arrest where he had to report to jail between I think it was 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.
	And the rest of the time, he could be back at his mansion doing the same thing that he'd always been doing, even though there was hundreds.
	I mean, at that time, you know, it was pretty well known that there was the evidence that they had against him was not in short supply.
	And it was, you know, just an amazing thing.
	This is the world in which we live.
	And the more important issue, I believe, is not so much what Jeffrey Epstein did and all the different so-called victims, but the fact that we are ruled by a group of people in such a manner that the average person really couldn't or wouldn't believe it.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So sordid, so tawdry.
	I'm rather surprised, John, that you think there's more to the steel dossier than I have ever supposed.
	I mean, of course, it appears to be a complete fabrication as far as having hired prostitutes to come into a hotel and urinate, pee upon a bed that Barack Obama and Michelle, aka Big Mike, had slept in.
	Well, we agree that that's silly.
	But I just want to say quickly that this reminds me of Watergate.
	I think that it's out of hand.
	I don't think this was the plan.
	I don't think that Watergate was the plan.
	And I've always wondered why, right?
	It seemed to me that Nixon did whatever Kissinger told him to do.
	So why was it necessary for the CIA to set him up at the Watergate Hotel?
	I think we agree on that the CIA set Nixon up, that E. Howard Hunt, those guys went in there to get arrested.
	And then they were able to force Nixon's hand and force him to impede in black and white the FBI investigation into Hunt's activities because they would lead back, says Nixon on tape, to the Kennedy assassination, right?
	He called it the Bay of Pigs thing.
	And then Haldeman says that that was the Kennedy assassination.
	But I think that that was out of hand.
	And I'm only just starting yesterday.
	I've always wondered why the hell did they take Nixon out?
	That didn't make any sense to me.
	And I'll grant you that right now, I don't understand why they're taking Trump out.
	It seems to me that Trump is doing everything that they tell him.
	Why are they trying to take him out?
	And Nixon, it occurred to me, the, oh, this is so long and involved, but Roosevelt, Roosevelt, if you study all of this, and I've been teaching history for 50 years,
	that if you study all of this, the Rothschilds, if you read stuff written in the early 1900s, the Rothschilds were named and hated for their complete control of the money of the gold supply in the keep going, John.
	You silence.
	Are you there?
	Paul, pick up.
	I don't know whatever to John.
	We lost his sound.
	Go ahead and Paul.
	Paul, you lost too?
	Wow.
	I'll continue and hope that we regain contact with my featured guest and with I don't know why they're taking Trump out, but I believe that it's out of hand, as Watergate was.
	Right?
	I think Watergate things got out of hand.
	You had a disruption.
	You were just starting to say, and then you froze about why they took Nixon.
	Please reiterate, reaffirm it.
	Because Nixon canceled Bretton Woods.
	Nixon stopped the removal of gold from Fort Knox and the transfer of that gold to the Rothschilds overseas by exchanging foreign currency, U.S. currency held in foreign hands for gold.
	And he stopped that, which stopped the Rothschilds from being able to reverse what Roosevelt had done, right?
	Roosevelt grabbed all the gold bullion in the United States, and they were using this to get it back.
	We don't need to go down that path.
	The point is, we don't know why they took Nixon out.
	But as a result of them taking Nixon out, you had real Senate and congressional investigations into the Kennedy assassination that produced some real stuff, right?
	I mean, among other things, they did that study that proved that there was a shot from the grassy knoll, right?
	They did the Brad Barada and all these sound guys, and they used the echo patterns to prove that there was beyond question a shot from the grassy knoll.
	Well, I think that we are in sort of those times again, that there's no telling, I think, how this stuff is going to come down.
	I think it's a semi-revolutionary situation at the moment.
	Well, just add a footnote here.
	HSC tried to reconstruct, do a better job of the cover-up than the Warren Commission.
	In so many ways, Parkland had reported a fist-sized blowout at the back of JFK's head.
	It had been enlarged at Parkland by taking a cranial salt of the skull to greatly enlarge it, make it look more like something that could have occurred by a shot from behind a jacklin leaning far forward.
	It's described in mathematical detail in the Bethesda Autopsy Report.
	And yet, absurdly, the HSCA sought to reconstitute the back of the head.
	So according to them, the physicians had located an actual shot.
	I mean, then this was a real shot to the back of the head at the base of the EOP, external occipital protuberance, where you dressed your head if you were reclining in a bathtub four inches upward to the crown.
	They reconstitute the whole back of the head.
	So there's no blow-out, not fist size, not missing back of the head.
	John, it is so grossly insulting.
	And I've been very troubled.
	I mean, Cyril.
	Hang on, let me interrupt you.
	I'm not endorsing the report.
	I know that.
	I know that.
	Listen.
	Okay.
	I Still can't believe how Cyril Weck was on the medical panel, never called it out.
	Cyril was endless in ridiculing the magic bullet theory as having shifted its trajectory in flight, physical impossibility, but he never called out the fact they'd reconstituted the back of the head.
	And yes, I've discussed with the leading expert on the matter how they arranged the microphone so they could tell whether there'd been a shot, an additional shot from the grassy knoll, which as you well know, James Files claims to have taken.
	Now, I had dinner with Files.
	I think he's a great guy.
	He and I could be great friends, but he didn't fire the shot.
	You and I agree about that.
	But let's move on.
	Let's move on, yeah?
	Or not.
	John, I don't need John.
	You host your shows and I'll host mine.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Can I say something here?
	No, I'm going to bring in Paul.
	Give me one minute to finish this thought.
	Okay, all right.
	Files could have had great credibility to explain how the driver had brought the limousine to a halt and how Jack had been hit in the back of the head and slumped forward and then Jack eased him back up and then he was hit in the right town, Paul, which was his shot Files claimed to have taken, even though the trajectory wasn't just right.
	But he never mentions anything about the limbo's opera, how it, and because it had been taken out of the Zabruda film, most of the public remains to this day oblivious of that fact.
	Yes, Paul, I wanted to bring you in long before you've been patient.
	Go for it.
	Well, I just would like to say with all, you know, complete and total honor and respect of all the research you've done, is you're so well versed and so familiar and you've spent so much time that there's a danger I've been listening to you for years and that a lot of your shows will accidentally turn into a JFK assassination show.
	What can it happen today?
	Okay, I have to.
	That was it.
	So, yeah, let's just always be mindful of that because once you get going, it's like, uh-oh, we're going to go down the JFK thing again.
	Well, just offer confirmation.
	John D. Bells had me on his show years and years and years ago, and he asked me one question about JFK, and I spoke for three and a half hours continuous.
	I know, I know.
	He liked it so much, he released it to the public, though normally his shows are syndicated.
	You got to pay.
	I think it's so obvious that Epstein was working for Israel, that this was a Mossad op.
	I guess Wayne Maxwell has now said Jeffrey's alive.
	He's in Israel, and he's continuing to blackmail American politicians.
	Information Liberation has reported the Washington Times.
	Suggestion Jeffrey Epstein was Mossad is an anti-Semitic blood libel.
	I mean, this is what the Zionists do when they're boxed in.
	They claim what you're saying is a blood libel or it's a fabrication or whatever.
	This is just ridiculous to the max.
	But just so you know, I mean, it's increased.
	We all know this now, and I'm going to state it once more so we're clear on this.
	All of this, in my opinion, is a good thing because it's what I call the general noticing, and everybody is noticing.
	And you cannot escape.
	Even on YouTube, they used to be much better at deleting their comments, but it seems now they're slipping up.
	Either it's intentional or they just don't delete them fast enough.
	But on any run-of-the-mill YouTube video, as well as others, people make comments about the Jews now.
	And it's ubiquitous.
	I have encountered it myself in person.
	In other words, just mention it to normal people, which I used to get shocked reactions to.
	But the things I would say, which I would enjoy for years, to be honest with you, just to see if I get people to make that face or get that look in their eyes.
	And now people nod their heads when you say, oh, yeah, it's the Jews.
	People know.
	So this is the world in which we live.
	And I don't know what exactly has been besides the internet in general.
	I don't know what exactly has really, really pushed this transformation.
	It's a number of things, I believe.
	But this Epstein episode is one of them.
	And to the question or the issue about why would they take him out and so on and so forth, well, I think overall this fits with the protocols.
	I'm sure your guest is probably familiar with the way that he speaks.
	I'm sure he's familiar with the protocols.
	And they will supply our heroes and they will supply our anti-heroes.
	And of course, they will frame the whole debate.
	And this is what they're, in my opinion, it's what they do so well.
	So go ahead.
	All those are all very valuable observations with which I agree wholeheartedly.
	The genie's out of the bottle.
	You know, they've opened a can of worms.
	They're stuck with it now.
	It's a huge mess.
	Now, what I'm reporting is a specific effort to suppress it.
	It isn't going to work, but it's remarkable that it was even attempted.
	You have the Washington Times reporting a blood libel for 2025.
	Epstein was a Mossad agent.
	Here you have a blatant truth that they're trying to dismiss as some kind of horrific smear as a form of anti-Semitism.
	Let me just read a part of it.
	Tucker Carlson and other suggestion that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent is an anti-Semitic blood libel for 2025.
	According to Washington Time, Deputy Commentary Editor Anath Hartman from the Washington Times.
	Tucker Carlson and other members of the isolationists, they are not.
	They're not interventionists.
	They're not isolationists.
	So far right, they become left, camp, wrong again, are a collective dog with a bone when it comes to Israel and the Jews.
	Not true.
	The most recent bandwagon onto which they have jumped in an effort To get everyone else to find the Jewish people as loathsome as they do, which is just ridiculous.
	The problem is that genocide, the actions of the Israeli government, not Jews in general, though some specifically stand out, like B.B. Netanyahu, the Jeffrey Epstein saga.
	Last week at a turning point USA summit, the former Fox News host said that every single person in Washington thinks a convicted sex offender work for Israel, running a black male operation.
	I'm sure that's a fact.
	I've never met anyone who didn't think that.
	He continued.
	I don't know any of them who hate Israel, but no one feels they can say it.
	And the commentator, why don't they feel they can say as much?
	Those familiar with Mr. Carlson's recent rants about Jews in Israel can probably fill in the blanks because the Jews control the world, of course.
	It's a trope.
	Mr. Carlson danced around during the remainder of his turning point USA speech, in which he also hinted that President Trump supporter and hedge fund CEO Bill Ackman had Epstein connection.
	Mr. Ackman is surprise, surprise, Jewish.
	One of the various claims Hartman signed to debunk Carlson theory was the fact that former Israeli Prime Minister Natafel Bennett just publicly denied that Epstein was Mossad.
	Then there's the fact that the former Israeli Prime Minister Natafi Bennett immediately dismissed the Epstein-Mossad connection.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	Paul, I'll begin with you.
	I mean, this is so blatant.
	It's so obvious.
	There's so much evidence.
	The very idea they'd resort to trying to dismiss it as anti-Semitic is really mind-boggling.
	I mean, there's nothing to support it.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, they don't really have anything else to do.
	In other words, there's no, that's all they can do, to be honest with you.
	And of course, I think everybody increasingly knows that's what they do.
	So and on Wednesday's show, I think that I went to the website Winter Watch and took a look at the meme with Elmo.
	And all this is just creeping its way into our culture and our subculture.
	And no matter what they say, I mean, it's like Alan Dershowitz and the New York Times saying the same thing instead of the Washington Post.
	It doesn't really matter at this point to most Americans' minds, the ones that are paying attention anyway, what they say.
	We know the truth.
	So they might as well just go through the motions.
	That would be my take.
	John, your thought?
	Well, I think it's spectacular.
	I think it's revolutionary that that's a headline.
	It's like a headline that says, the CIA did not kill JFK.
	Well, if that's the headline, that's a good conversation and people are having it.
	And the fact that they're having it, like I said, is spectacularly positive compared to the garbage that typically fills the headlines.
	And it's revolutionary.
	I mean, if our government changes, if our way of life changes to accommodate this change in people's way of thinking, I think we're in for a really, really, really important and positive move forward.
	Yeah, I think this has all been catastrophic for the Zionists.
	Yes.
	I mean, people are becoming increasingly aware that Congress is Israeli-occupied territory.
	Thomas Massey has pointed out everyone in Congress has an APAC handler to keep them on the Israeli reservation.
	It's becoming obvious.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, John.
	Moore.
	No, no, let's go.
	I want to get to my stuff because it's all about this.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're going to get there.
	Believe me.
	Consider this just to be introductory.
	Here's a rather fascinating piece.
	Rational calculation by Trump's men that they can win their war against Russia or escape voter blame if they lose it.
	There's so many fascinating aspects of this article.
	I intend to repost it on my blog about President Donald Trump.
	Certifiable maniac isn't an expletive.
	It's a clinical diagnosis.
	In the neurological and psychiatric evidence that has been accumulated about Trump over many years, there is a medical history of Alzheimer's disease, which runs in his family.
	His father was first diagnosed at age 86 and died at 93.
	His older sister died of it, also at age 86.
	And at least one cousin died of the same at age 84.
	Since the president just turned 79, there's reason to anticipate similar onset of symptoms and cause of death for him.
	Trump thinks this himself, going to marry Trump, a clinical psychologist, and the president's niece.
	He has published a case history of the president 2020, which Trump's lawyers failed to suppress in court.
	Last week, she published a new symptom of what she calls the acceleration in Trump's cognitive decline.
	He cannot tie his own shoelaces.
	This claim had already been pursued by online investigators who've been reporting Trump's lace ops, which appear from the photograph, to be tied permanently in a mysterious right shoe several times too large.
	He apparently has a venous condition, a medical problem.
	But, you know, being able to tie your shoelaces is an elementary cognitive exercise.
	I mean, that's a test for your cognitive functioning.
	Paul, Paul, your thoughts.
	I'm going to throw into it that you got dead air that Ted Kaczynski speech.
	Good gravy.
	And if you don't know it, Google it.
	Trump talking about his uncle being teaching Ted Kaczynski.
	And he went on about it.
	It seems that he has moments of mental clarity, but he also has moments where he's just completely disassociated from reality.
	It's just gonzo.
	Yeah, I was muted earlier, Jim.
	Sorry.
	I'll just react.
	Hang on, we got a break.
	We'll be right back and we'll pick up with you, Paul.
	And very soon, we'll turn to John's.
	I'm going to run and get my charger.
	Go ahead.
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	now we return you to your host Hello.
	I seem to be the only one here, and I think I'm going to talk for a minute.
	Geez, I wasn't expecting this to happen.
	Let me try something.
	It's a regular thing.
	He's just a little late coming back.
	Don't worry.
	Okay.
	Oh, all right.
	So, but you're here.
	Go ahead and fill the airtime if you want, though.
	Well, I mean, we can, you and I can talk, right?
	Well, let me say to you, because you brought it up, the Protocols of Zion, I'm going to present a document in a minute that shows that in 1829, the Rothschilds tried to buy Palestine.
	The Zionism goes back to 1829, and I suspect that the original Protocols of Zion goes back to a date that is, you know, probably 50, 60 years before the first appearance of a Zionist organization.
	But I believe that the Rothschilds, obviously the Rothschilds are the founders of Zionism, and I'm going to present that data as well.
	So really, the major point that I feel like I want to make is that when people talk about the deep state, and they point to Israel.
	And Israel's got 9 million people.
	How can 9 million people control Britain and the United States and all of Europe?
	How can they have this tiny little thing of Israel?
	And it's because it isn't Israel.
	It's the people behind Israel who are obviously from all of the documentation of the founding of Israel, the Rothschilds, who are quadrillionaires, right?
	They have thousands of trillions of dollars.
	And if you think about that figure for a little bit, and you can understand how they can so easily, they own all the media, and they have for the last 200, 300 years.
	They've been doing this stuff for quite a while.
	But Jim's back, and is it?
	The enumeric argument is obviously because the question of what position that small number might be.
	One king can rule a kingdom, right?
	An empire, as we've seen repeatedly, but your point is still impeccable.
	They have a lot of friends and associates who are very powerful, especially in the financial and banking empire.
	Paul, I'm sure you would like to comment on what John's had to say here.
	Yours.
	Oh, no, I'm looking forward to the rest of his presentation.
	I'll just comment briefly on, since you asked me before and since you talked about it, Trump's cognitive decline, which I really was not, I was not aware of those things that you had mentioned.
	And, of course, it's unfortunate.
	I suppose it's not surprising given his age.
	And to be honest overall, as a man who's experiencing symptoms of aging just like you, I find it sad.
	You know, I had to help my dad do all those things, including button his shirt.
	He got to a point where, for whatever reason, his fingers and his hands didn't work right anymore.
	He couldn't button his shirt.
	And he was quite frustrated by it.
	I mean, he knew he couldn't do it, and he didn't understand why.
	And, you know, that was the hard thing about trying to help him out those last couple years of his life is there was nothing I could do about it.
	That was very frustrating to me.
	So anyway, that was my thought.
	And I have made you host, so you can go ahead and set up and do a screen share here with your slides.
	Oh, we're ready to go.
	Here to address these issues, which are of such pressing moment today.
	And Paul, yeah, I mean, we had four years of a non-precedent.
	I mean, Biden was an imposter.
	He wasn't a real Joe Biden.
	He had a different shape and size of the skull.
	He had a different signature.
	He had a different manner of speaking and interaction, acting socially with an audience.
	They were glaring differences.
	And yet nobody in Washington was calling it out.
	They had to all be aware this wasn't the real guy.
	I called it out during the first debate that he had with Trump because the ears were wrong.
	Oh, great.
	We've got John's slides.
	Yeah, you can go to slides show if you want to get the whole screen, John, or leave it this way, whichever.
	I'm going to try to do that.
	Play.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	So I'm ready when you are.
	You go right ahead, John.
	All right.
	We have time, so interrupt anytime anybody feels like it.
	But this is my YouTube channel, which is, you know, suppressed to the maximum amount, but they gave up banning me altogether.
	But at Real History Channel 1, my most recent piece of work is about the helicopter, that marine Blackhawk that crashed into a passenger jet on January 30th, I think it was.
	And beyond question, the NTSB is lying.
	It's just outrageous, the lies that they're telling, that all of the altitude data from the helicopter has evaporated.
	It's just disappeared.
	There's no GPS in the black box, says the NTSB.
	Okay.
	But they do tell us that the helicopter steered into the jet up to the last minute.
	And I think that the point of this was to be able to tell every congressman and senator who lands at that airport eight times a year, we can take you out and we will.
	And when we tell you we're going to kill you if you don't vote for this $9 trillion deficit, you better believe us.
	And which is the only way I can account for why people like Rand Paul and other real anti-deficit hawks just totally rolled over and died.
	Had nothing to say about a $9 trillion addition to the deficit.
	You're familiar with it.
	They rolled over and didn't die.
	They rolled over and took it.
	Yes.
	You're making a fascinating point.
	The NTSB has been a sham.
	It's cover up all kinds.
	I did a huge review.
	Paul Wells owned everything they were telling about it was phony and fake.
	I tried to give them the real skinny based on extensive research.
	They met, they had an aid meet with me at midnight in Minneapolis.
	So nobody would.
	Yeah, I mean it was bizarre.
	So I think you're making very telling points about NTSB.
	Paul, you want to add on that?
	The crash, you know, in Washington?
	No, no comments right now.
	Continue.
	Yeah, please.
	I'm just trying to get into the material.
	I'm introducing myself.
	But people are very familiar.
	Many people are very familiar with October 7th.
	It was an inside job.
	The military stood down for seven hours.
	The attack helicopters were five minutes away and they did not show up until they went to the concert and killed 350 people in their cars.
	Anyhow, Trump in the Crosshairs looks very closely at the...
	Okay.
	Okay.
	October 7th.
	Yes, obviously an inside job.
	That very day we had former IDF saying this is ridiculous.
	The sensitivity of the fence is so great that if a bird craps on the fence, they're aware of it.
	The idea of multiple breaches without the IDF knowing is ridiculous.
	And they were killing Jews.
	They were killing their own people at the concert just so they could blame it on Hamas, which had nothing to do with it.
	And then they were making up all these fantastic stories about babies beheaded or put in microwaves and other nonsense of that sort.
	It was grotesque.
	Rolling right along.
	This is all just introductory.
	I didn't mean for it to, and I got 95 slides, but anyway, the guy, Crooks, everybody at that speech that Trump was giving had cameras.
	There were like three different cameras that show that Crooks, at the time of the shots were being fired, was eight feet down from the crest of the roof.
	He Could not possibly have been the person firing the shots into that rally, which is why the Secret Service couldn't take him out because they couldn't see him because he wasn't in view because he wasn't the one firing the shots.
	Don, would you agree that this was a staged event for political?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Oh, and you'll enjoy it if you watch the video.
	I managed to capture Trump signaling to the Secret Service, go stop.
	To take that Iwo Jima shot, right, of him shaking his fist with the flag behind.
	That was all Trump's signaling, go stop, shake his fist, looks the cameraman dead in the eye, and then motions to the Secret Service, okay, let's go.
	That's not how the Secret Service works, but never mind.
	Anyhow, this is a short thing I made detailing how it was the Rothschilds.
	I'm rather stunned.
	I mean, the Rothschilds has any number of front banks and organizations, but they use the Rothschild Bank to bail Trump out of six bankruptcies.
	They have Epstein, right?
	Epstein is their boy.
	And anyway, whatever.
	This is my life's work.
	I spent 50 years doing the research for this.
	I took Adderall for a year in order to be able to plow through the documents.
	I can't say I found it, but I found the guy who found the article written.
	It's a document written by Maxwell Taylor, in which on October 6th, I believe, in which he says to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the president just gave me the order, everybody out by the end of 65, and all of your decisions from now on are going to be aligned with that goal.
	So beyond question, black and white Kennedy ordered everybody out of Vietnam.
	A month later, he was dead, or a month and three weeks later, he was dead.
	A week later, they hired Oswald at the book depository.
	And the limousine stopped, right?
	It proves this point that the limousine stopped.
	Anyhow, I'm ready to just click on.
	You know, right, Jim and I could talk for three weeks about it.
	That was by the end of 64, actually, rather than 65.
	What's that?
	To have all American advisors out of Vietnam by the end of 64, I had thought.
	You said 65.
	I could be wrong.
	In any case.
	He had directed.
	Yes.
	He was going to have it.
	Yes.
	Well, and the thing is that there are all sorts of documents.
	And I didn't re-watch this in order to have all my memories fresh.
	There's all sorts of documents in the official record that make reference to this period of time, and they don't include this decision.
	And there's one that doesn't, that makes a reference to this decision and then says that that's not what he decided.
	Anyhow, like I said, you and I, we could spend three weeks talking about all of the issues in this, and it'd be worth listening to.
	But let's move on.
	That's my email in case anybody wants to write a question.
	So Tucker Carlson and Jeffree Sachs.
	I don't know if people are familiar with Jeffree Sachs.
	He's Tucker Carlson's favorite guy and he's my favorite guy.
	He's very much opposed to the war in Ukraine.
	He went to Ukraine.
	He talked to all of the parties involved.
	This was right at the beginning of the war.
	And the agreement had been signed by Zelensky.
	The war was over and the U.S. came in and put the kibosh on it.
	He said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not going along with that.
	And anyway, so because of Sachs's deep knowledge of the situation and because he's so staunchly against what the U.S. is doing there, he's a fan, Tucker Carlson is a fan of his and has him on.
	In addition to which, Sachs is very, very much against the genocide in Gaza.
	And that's another reason that Carlson has him on.
	And one of the things, I think we're going to get to hear him say it in a minute, that Sachs says is that Israel has been in charge of U.S. foreign policy for 30 years.
	And so that's another reason.
	But my point is that they both of them say deep state all the time.
	And that's really huge, right?
	I was mentioned earlier that I think we're in really kind of a revolutionary moment.
	The word deep state, people are starting to figure out that it includes Donald Trump, right?
	Trump taught them to say deep state and to understand what it means, but he also lied to them and said that he was not part of it when, in fact, he's one of the most slavishly entrapped individuals who acts as a puppet for the deep state.
	But anyhow, I just want to make this point that this word is entering our vocabulary.
	Shall I stop here for a second?
	Oh, you're doing great.
	Keep going.
	Okay, very good.
	Professor at Columbia.
	I did my first graduate work at Columbian Philosophy, which at the time had a very, very good, distinguished faculty in that discipline.
	SDS was trying to close down the campus.
	This is fall of 69.
	And I got involved with a group called Student for Columbia University.
	And when they ransacked the education placement office, mistakenly thinking it was a military placement and threw typewriters out the window.
	I was in the center there in front of Butler Library with a megaphone to not see what happened.
	When a group of them assaulted me and members of my group came to my defense.
	And when CBS did the year-end roundup, they zoomed in there.
	I was in the middle of this melee.
	Go right ahead, John.
	Oh, well, so anyway, Sachs represents the best of that Columbia ever represented.
	But here you go.
	Oh, we can't hear you.
	You haven't set the, yet the click for the sound to be heard on your videos.
	But why don't you tell us what Jeffrey Sachs is saying?
	Oh, you can't hear him.
	Right, we cannot hear him.
	Yeah.
	Oh, crap.
	Yeah, if you go back in to where you uploaded, it should give you the chance to click the two boxes at the side for the sound to be transmitted.
	You might try to.
	I'm just going to repeat what he says as he says it.
	All right.
	What did he say?
	It doesn't really.
	You can see the words at the bottom.
	It doesn't matter.
	This matters, President.
	This is long-term deep state policy.
	Israel has run American foreign policy in the Middle East for 30 years and ignorance and deep state arrogance since 1991.
	The deep state, the CI and others have been trying to defeat Russia, and five presidents have been on that course through their incompetence and their obedience to an unaccountable deep state.
	Kill the peacemakers.
	Well, this is the modus omerandi of the deep state.
	Now, and they've hired a lot of very irresponsible people.
	Duplicity of that, the deep state of government, please own that.
	The deep state continue on a path it's been on.
	It requires seeing down the deep state internally.
	Good stuff.
	I agree.
	Right?
	But so my point is he says the word deep state and he doesn't tell us who the deep state is.
	He rather implies that it's Israel.
	He said Israel has controlled U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East for 30 years.
	I think it's much closer to 100 years.
	But moving right along.
	The question that I want to get to is who is the deep state?
	And I don't think it can be Israel.
	I don't find that if Israel with 9 million people and no resources and nothing really strategic, how is Israel the deep state?
	And the answer that I'm going to, I'll tell you in advance, the answer is that because Israel is the Rothschilds and the Rothschilds are the deep state and the Rothschilds have been the deep state absolutely since 1815.
	The Rothschilds had complete domination of the British, U.S., and European economies in 1815, but we're going to touch on that.
	Let me invite Paul if he wants to add any thoughts.
	Paul, are you still here?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll just jump in when I find the moment.
	Okay, go ahead.
	And, you know, I'll stop and rewind if I need to.
	So this is my favorite book.
	It took me 70 years of looking to find it.
	It's written by a guy named Eric Williams, Capitalism and Slavery.
	He was the president of Trinidad and Tobago.
	He was given a scholarship to Oxford.
	He was one of the premier history students.
	And the thing is that he's looking at this question.
	He knew that the people who freed the slaves in Trinidad and Tobago were evil people.
	And he wanted to explore how the hell it is that these evil people did this good thing.
	And what he discovered is that the City of London bankers ended slavery in the Caribbean in order to consolidate their absolute control of the British and American governments and economies.
	They ended slavery in 1833, but in the Caribbean.
	But they didn't end it in India, which was controlled by the City of London bankers.
	They killed.
	Recent scholarship shows that they killed 200 million people in India between 1880 and 1920.
	And how many untold millions before and after those dates?
	They didn't free the slaves because they were good people.
	They freed the slaves because the bankers were locked in this battle for absolute control of Britain with the Caribbean sugar barons who owned, just outright, openly bribed half of the lords and three quarters of the members of parliament.
	And, you know, the bankers are in competition.
	Well, no, take our bribes.
	No, take our bribes.
	No, take our bribes.
	And they won that war by destroying the city, by destroying their competition, the sugar barons in the Caribbean.
	And they did that by fomenting the American Revolution.
	The Sugar Barons were absolutely dependent on their ability to buy American goods at cost, which the king required.
	Cost plus 2% maybe.
	The king, under the influence of the Rothschilds and the City of London bankers, required the colonies to sell their goods to the sugar barons at rock bottom prices so that the sugar barons could undercut, could undercut the prices of the Portuguese sugar barons and the Spanish sugar barons and the French sugar barons.
	And they could and they did and they were just fabulously wealthy and they were the bankers' main competition.
	But with the American Revolution, the City of London bankers exterminated the Caribbean sugar barons who were the Caribbean slave lords and, I mean, just wiped them out.
	So that the city of London bankers have dominated all of these economies.
	They've dominated them since 1750, but they have absolutely controlled them since 1815.
	He doesn't say, but he shows that the U.S. Revolution was backed funded by this London banker Rothschild operation, and Washington was their boy.
	Now, do you know where Washington is going in this picture?
	Was it crossing the Delaware, right?
	To go where?
	To go to Trenton.
	To do what?
	What was he going to do when he got to Trenton?
	He was going to kill the Hessians.
	Are you familiar with that story?
	You know, I taught American history for 30 years.
	So to me, this is very, very...
	Go ahead, Paul.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, I said, yeah, the average American person, if you were to ask them why was Washington crossing the Delaware, they wouldn't know.
	But according to history, right, it was to essentially get to this Hessian encampment, you know, before dawn and surprise them.
	So go ahead.
	On Christmas Eve, right?
	The Hessians had all been missing their families.
	Well, go ahead, Paul.
	Sorry.
	No, no, no.
	I was done.
	I was going to make a joke.
	He's going to Starbucks.
	Is that it?
	No.
	I see.
	He's going to kill these guys in their sleep.
	Now, the thing is, you don't know this, and you got to do this.
	You got to spend two hours.
	You'll find out that the Hessians were owned by the Rothschilds.
	And they were rented to King George III by the Rothschilds.
	And they weren't put onto the front lines.
	And there was no reason for George III to think he was going to have to pay the Rothschilds a bunch of money because these guys were going to suffer a bunch of casualties.
	They were out of the way.
	And Washington went and exterminated them in their sleep.
	So, well, I would argue.
	Well, it was a huge boon.
	It was a huge benefit to the Rothschilds that George I did this to the Hessians by, and I mean, the Rothschilds were rich in the first place, but the Rothschilds would kill an orphan to get their nickel.
	So the fact that they would be interested in collecting a few extra million pounds from the king is certainly extremely plausible.
	As president, this is much more important.
	As president, then there was a huge debate, and you won't be familiar with it unless you look into it.
	I don't think most students of American history, because it's hidden, because it's so important.
	It's hidden that when Washington got in, there was this, Benjamin Franklin and others were huge exponents of, we don't want to be slaves to those goddamn British bankers.
	Those guys are monsters.
	Why don't we run our own economy?
	Why don't we print our own money?
	Let's be in charge of our own bank.
	And Washington said no, and he handed the banks over to the British.
	And they have been going through for the last 200 years, they've been going through the documents in the library at Mount Vernon.
	And a little while ago, they found documents showing that he owns shares in the Rothschild-controlled Bank of England.
	Shocking.
	So comments, because we're about to turn a corner.
	No, I just said shocking.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I mean, I'm ashamed to say that I have, you know, I've been so gullible that I was brought up to admire Washington as a hero.
	And, you know, listen, the French built the Statue of Liberty because they looked to America as a beacon of democracy.
	Well, that's a good thing.
	And Washington was part of that.
	And Ho Chi Minh thought that Jefferson and Washington were heroes.
	And he quoted Thomas Jefferson.
	Ho Chi Minh quoted Thomas Jefferson in his Declaration of Independence from the French.
	So it was actually revealed recently on a show I listened to on another network that not only that, but of course, Washington advocated for the entrance of the Jews into America, where many of the others, such as Benjamin Franklin, were opposed to allowing any Jews to emigrate here.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	So Washington knew where his bread was buttered.
	Yes.
	Oh, my goodness.
	The Masons.
	All of the founding fathers except Franklin were Masons, and you can bet that the Masons were controlled by the Rothschilds.
	But nevertheless, you know, the United States and Washington and Jefferson for the world have stood as a shining example of democracy.
	And that's a good thing.
	So, you know, surprise, surprise, nothing is black and white.
	But he freed his slaves on right is his last act.
	When he was dying, he freed his slaves.
	And I thought until yesterday that that was a great thing.
	But when we get to the end, if we have time, which I hope we will, we'll take that up.
	Anyway, so I want to explain that I was born and raised in East LA, and East LA has a large Jewish population, and we were all friends, and we got along famously, and I was brought up to admire and enjoy and appreciate Jewish culture.
	My family members got invited to Seders, and oh, two of my sister's best friends were named Rosalinski.
	And, you know, we're culturally Jewish and, you know, celebrated planetary in Israel, right?
	Good-hearted, good-natured, Joyna Kibblitz, generous, kind Zionism.
	Stand by, John.
	We got another break, and we'll be right back.
	Okay.
	Good timing.
	California.
	Can I talk?
	No, we're live.
	Okay.
	We'll be right back.
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	now we return you to your host And this is Jim Fetzer, your host with Paul from California, my co-host and our special feature guest today, John Hankey.
	Please continue, John.
	Well, so my point is that I was raised to deeply value and appreciate Jewish culture.
	East LA was full of Jewish businesses.
	That's Brooklyn Avenue in East Los Angeles, but also, you know, the Mexicans have been living here for 300 years.
	This is a book of Jewish humor that I was handed when I was like seven years old.
	The entire family read it.
	We made jokes about it.
	And these are the people that I have learned to love and cherish, which is real Jews who want peace and who regard Judaism as spiritual and not political and who are fiercely offended by Zionism, which is not spiritual, but is strictly political.
	And this is an interesting phenomenon that I don't want to spend too much time on, but 2,100 years ago, Israel was a political entity.
	It was a state, but the Romans conquered it, and when they rebelled, they destroyed it.
	They obliterated it.
	And many, many Jews left Israel and went all over the place, including to Spain and North Africa and all over the Middle East.
	And at the same time, and this is really the point, is they developed this non-political religiosity, right?
	Their religion turned from being one where they celebrated the slaughter of innocent animals at the temple to one where they celebrated justice and community and caring about each other.
	And this is a picture of Abraham getting ready to kill his son.
	That's the old Judaic tradition before the Romans decided, taught them that they needed to be spiritual and not completely focused on bloodshed and murder and being a barbarian.
	But today, they are focused, the Zionist leadership in Israel is focused on bloodshed and torture and murder and being barbaric.
	And the shift comes, the shift back to barbarism and to being political.
	Well, one of the most famous perhaps is the Balfour Declaration from 1917, where the British gave Palestine, which they had no legal claim to, but they gave it to the Rothschilds.
	I want to point out, they didn't give it to the World Jewish Congress, to the World Zionist Congress.
	They gave it to the Rothschilds.
	The Rothschilds are Zionism.
	I don't know what I meant to do with that.
	And it doesn't matter.
	But this is, people need to pay attention to this.
	We're going to look at this more closely.
	But 1929, down at the bottom, the red arrow at the bottom, you see the date, 1929, Baron Rothschild.
	1829.
	1829 went to the Turkish Sultan and said that he wanted to buy Palestine for 35 million piastras, whatever that is.
	And that was followed up 1829, 1917, 90 years later by the Balfour Declaration.
	Well, how did they get from here to here?
	Well, we're going to look at that.
	But the point that I want people to get is that Zionism, Zionists are as guilty of Zionism as the German people were guilty of Nazism, which is to say, the leadership of the Nazi Party, Jesus, most of them said they were just following orders, but it really had its roots.
	The Nazism had its roots in the Rothschilds, as we're going to see in a minute.
	But the point is that the Rothschilds are the deep state, and the Zionists appear to be the deep state because the Rothschilds do their best to keep themselves out of the equation.
	If I may, though, I want to make a quick point.
	And I'm known.
	So forgive me, John.
	I'm known for making this point on this show and many other shows.
	So all of this, a lot of what you say is indeed true, but it has to be viewed in the proper context.
	So well before the Rothschilds came into being, in other words, before the Rothschild dynasty was established, the Jews were in many societies ostracized and in many cases expelled.
	This has been going on far before the Rothschilds, and it continues unabated.
	In my opinion, the main way this has to be viewed is biological, okay?
	Similar to the way that we can view the behavior of certain species as a biological imperative.
	So when you view the Jews racially and biologically, in my opinion, that's a more clear way to understand their behavior than simply attributing it to a political movement such as Zionism.
	I couldn't disagree more, but if you let me just present my case, you know, you can.
	Did you say you couldn't disagree more?
	Correct.
	To bring biology into it, I find it incredibly offensive.
	We got to continue that later because that'll be a great show, me and you going on that point.
	That's right.
	We can take up two hours.
	Anyhow, my point is that the thing that the light that went on in my head, a friend of mine said the Jews want to rule the world from Jerusalem.
	The Zionists want to rule the world from Jerusalem.
	And I thought, that's crazy.
	And I said, I told her, you have to send me some documentation of that.
	And she did.
	And then I got to think about it some more.
	And you look at this genocide.
	How can they think that they're going to get away with it?
	They're one thousandth of the population of the world.
	How can they think that they can perform this genocide?
	And, you know, the entire world, the population of the entire world is united in condemning the horror of this genocide.
	How can they think that they're going to get away with it?
	That's how.
	Who does?
	Israel?
	The Jews.
	The Jews.
	The biological and racial people known as the Jews.
	And I don't think you could be offended.
	Okay, Paul.
	I have barely enough time to get through this.
	Oh, we get it.
	We get it, Paul.
	Do you?
	Well, because he's in denial.
	He basically said there's nothing.
	I'm going to be in denial when you're done talking.
	Can we just go on?
	Okay, yeah.
	You're not going to persuade me to offend you.
	What are you denying?
	Are you denying the Jews have not been ghetto for their behavior?
	No, no.
	In other words, what I said can't be denied, that the history of the Jews and their reputation as a people preceded the Rothschilds, right?
	You're right.
	Let's go on.
	I want an answer to you.
	Can we go on?
	Please, please, please.
	The behavior of Jews preceded the Rothschilds.
	Can we?
	Can we go on?
	Okay, so you're basically evading the question.
	Paul.
	All right.
	I've made my point.
	I think the 10 times more than once.
	Enough.
	Yeah, but I don't give it to people that deny the truth.
	Paul, Paul, Paul.
	Damn it all.
	You're doing this again.
	Stop it.
	This is my show.
	If you ever want to appear with me again, you'll just be quiet here and let John make his presentation.
	Enough.
	Go ahead, John.
	So this guy, former U.S. Senator, is speaking to the Jewish News Service.
	It's a big shot organization in Israel.
	And he says, Jews are the masters of the universe.
	And, you know, well, you can say, yeah, yeah, that's taken out of context and he meant something else.
	And it kind of is.
	But you come back to this question.
	How can they think that they can get away with this if they don't think that they're the masters of the universe?
	They think that they're the math.
	Well, the Zionists, the Zionist leadership in Jerusalem thinks that they are the masters of the universe.
	And so I come back to the statement of this friendline that the Rothschilds want to rule.
	Let me just interject that remark.
	Go ahead.
	Norm Coleman was a replacement for Paul Wellstone when he was taken out in a plane crash that I can guarantee was no accident in Minnesota, just 60 miles north of my office on the campus of the University of Minnesota Duluth.
	I mean, I had no idea this a rabid Zionist until of late.
	And there's a statement he's making indicative.
	Go ahead, John.
	Go ahead.
	Well, so now we have good reason to think that Wellstone was killed by Mossad in order to put this rabid Zionist into the Senate.
	Well, I think it was actually all of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld because he was opposing them on the war in Iraq.
	But rabid Zionists all supporting Israel's war in Iraq, fought with American blood and treasure.
	But moving right along.
	The Rothschilds want to rule the world from Jerusalem.
	Well, for Netanyahu to want to rule the world from Jerusalem, that's insane.
	But for the Rothschilds to want to rule the world from Jerusalem, we're about to see just horrible and monstrous and megalomaniacal in the most extreme, but plausible at the time.
	In 1829, if you look at this document carefully, and we're not going to do that now because we don't have anything remotely resembling the time, but this is the outline.
	The Rothschilds wanted to establish a kingdom in Palestine, and they wanted to rule it, and they were ruling the world at the time.
	In 1825, they took over the Bank of England.
	In 1825, the Rothschilds became the world power, dominating every economy in Europe.
	I mean, it wasn't this is the Bank of England, but there were Rothschilds dominating the banks in France and Spain and Italy and Germany.
	So in 1825, in 1829, the notion that they would rule the world from Jerusalem was extremely plausible.
	In fact, they were doing it.
	They just didn't have Palestine and they couldn't get their hands on Palestine.
	But this is a declaration.
	If you look at it carefully and think about it for a couple of years, you'll see that it's a declaration of their intention to rule the world from Jerusalem.
	This is an article.
	I didn't have the time to go into it.
	It's like 20 pages long, but it shows you how in 1865, right, that's the first line, the Rothschilds and the Austrian loan of 1865, the Rothschilds treat the emperor of Austria and Hungary like a, they make him get down on his knees and beg, and then they say, yeah, we'll think about it.
	They tell him, you have to get down and beg, and then we won't give you an answer.
	We won't make you a deal that if you beg, we'll give you the loan.
	We want you to beg, and then we'll think about giving you the loan.
	But when this guy says it, it's just insanity.
	That's lunacy.
	You know, it's like a guy in an insane asylum wearing a Napoleon hat thinking he's Napoleon and he's going to come back to power.
	These guys in Jerusalem today think that they are the 1829 Rothschilds and that they're going to come back to world power.
	And that's not going to happen.
	They have lost it.
	Just a reminder that this is also the American institutions.
	The Rothschilds dominated the American banks, although they bought them.
	They didn't bring Rothschild banks into the United States.
	They bought Brown Brothers Harriman.
	They bought Brown Brothers.
	And Brown Brothers-Harriman, Harriman is their connection to the Kennedy assassination.
	There isn't very much evidence proving that the Rothschilds were, I'm sorry, that Israel was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
	My two-hour video that I talked about, Breakthrough, demonstrates very, very clearly that everybody in Dealey Plaza was connected directly to Harriman.
	One degree of separation connecting them, maybe two, to Harriman.
	And Harriman was a slave to the Rothschilds.
	The Turkish Sultan, when the Rothschilds came to them and said, we want to buy Palestine from you, the Turkish Sultan said, those are my children.
	Those are my family.
	I don't sell my children.
	Go away.
	And so from 1829 on, the Rothschilds have been plotting how to get their hands on Palestine.
	And they're still fighting that fight today.
	But the first thing that they did was the stupid Crimean War.
	I'm an English teacher, and I can tell you there's all sorts of literature, literature, poetry, about how stupid the Crimean War was.
	It's maybe like today that there was a real turning point in the thinking of the British population about their government and the kinds of wars that they got into.
	Everybody thought the Crimean War was stupid.
	Crimea is where the red arrow is pointing.
	And this is my hero again, Sachs, talking about how he read this 450-page book about why the British would want to go to war in Crimea when, you know, London is a thousand miles away.
	You can't see the red arrow.
	But London, from London to Crimea is a thousand miles.
	And this guy writes a 450-page book, and his conclusion is, no reason.
	You can't come up.
	There was no good reason that the British and the Russians were allies fighting Napoleon.
	And 40 years later, they're at war in the Crimean War.
	And it just doesn't make any sense.
	Nobody can explain it, right?
	The leading political historians can't come close to explaining how that happened.
	Well, oh, how about this?
	The deep state.
	If we explain the reason that every U.S. president has the same policy in the Middle East, no matter how destructive it is to U.S. interest, it's because there's a deep state that forces every U.S. president to kowtow to Israel.
	And how does that happen?
	Where does that come from?
	Well, I would say that it's the Rothschilds, but this is one that's going to curl your hair.
	Karl Marx says that the issue in the Crimean War was England's desire to grab Palestine.
	And Karl Marx is saying, that's a good idea.
	They should do that.
	We should support them.
	You should support the British in their attempts to grab Palestine.
	But my point is that in 1850, the Rothschilds are continuing their 1829 effort to get their hands on Palestine.
	And the Crimean War was the first step in that.
	And Marx is saying that the deep state, he doesn't use that word, wanted this war so that Britain could grab Palestine.
	And they had the war, and it didn't work.
	They killed, I don't know how many poor, stupid British soldiers who marched off patriotically to fight a thousand miles away in a war that didn't make any sense, but it didn't end up with the Rothschilds being in possession of Palestine.
	So now what are we going to do?
	So they have World War I. And this woman, and I'm really sorry that you aren't going to get to hear what she says either, but she says that after the Crimean War, Europe made peace and Europe was ruled by peace.
	And she says that in 1910, Europeans looked at each other and said, we don't ever need to go to war again.
	Look at how many of these problems we've solved.
	The Franco-Prussian War was six weeks, Maybe less, and then they made peace, they negotiated it.
	And there were all of these peace deals going on.
	Nobody thought there was going to be a war.
	And you can see any number of roundtable discussions of British scholars trying to figure out why World War I happened.
	And all of them will say, We don't know, there weren't any good reasons for it.
	Well, you know what the good reason was, don't you?
	But let me first point out, World War I was a genocide, right?
	You want to talk about the Holocaust being a genocide.
	Between 22 and 40 million people got killed in a war that nobody can point to and say, oh, it was because of this.
	For an apparently pointless war, 22 to 40 million people were killed, nearly all of them white.
	Paul might be interested in that.
	So it was a white people genocide.
	No, just a whore.
	And it really, really, really, I mean, it really twisted Hemingway's mind and soul.
	And 10 million guys just like him were really disturbed by the events of World War I. And how could our government send us, how could they start this stupid war for no freaking reason that killed all these people and created all of this suffering for no reason?
	Well, Mr. The reason was, though, you know, you said Paul might be interested in that, is this is consistent with their plans of our genocide.
	In other words, Jewish.
	Okay, but let's roll on.
	I don't want to make that point.
	I want to make this one.
	Well, you know, all these things you want to make are all tied into the same point.
	That's correct.
	So why don't you just let me make them?
	I have been letting you make them.
	Paul.
	Paul.
	Thank you.
	Paul, please.
	I got 10 minutes.
	I got eight minutes.
	And I'm not close to done.
	You got another half hour.
	Close to done.
	John, you got another half hour.
	Oh, do wait a minute.
	What time do you got?
	It's almost, it's 12.20 here.
	Oh, all right.
	You got a whole other half hour.
	Okay, good.
	All right, good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for pointing that out.
	I feel much better.
	I didn't realize.
	I thought, anyhow, the reason for World War I was so that when it was over, Britain could send 100,000 troops and grab Palestine.
	No, that's what he made.
	One of the main reasons was to bail out British and French bondholders and U.S. bondholders in that war.
	It was all about money for the most part.
	The Rothschild Palestine angle was just, in my opinion, a side issue to that war.
	It was mostly fought for the usual money and white genocide.
	But go on.
	Okay.
	Well, we now, the Rothschilds are the military-industrial complex in this country and in Britain and in France and in Germany and in Italy and in Spain.
	They are the military industrial complex.
	So certainly if they're starting a war so that they're going to be the main profiteers, and you can't dispute that.
	If the child gets killed so that somebody, the Israelis can steal a nickel off the ground that the child was about to pick up, that's the Rothschilds stealing that poor kid's nickel because that's what they do.
	But I've just laid out all of this, how they have been after grabbing Palestine since 1829.
	The Crimean War had no discernible purpose other than Marx says so that the British could grab Palestine.
	He doesn't say and hand it to the Rothschilds, but at the end of World War I, which had no discernible purpose, according to all the leading historians in Europe, no discernible purpose for World War I other than prophets.
	And nobody's going to, you can't send 40 million people to their deaths telling them that, yeah, this is for prophets.
	And y'all know, I guess, that immediately when the war was over, the British, so the British grabbed Palestine and they immediately handed it to the Rothschilds.
	This means I'm going to, can you see where it says, Dear Lord Rothschild?
	Sure, of course.
	Yes.
	Okay, I can't see that.
	But anyhow, I also can't see my cursor whatsoever.
	But the point is, they grabbed the British for no reason at the end of the war, rather than sending these, these guys all have families, right?
	They got children who are going hungry and who are neglected because their fathers are off in this stupid war for no freaking reason.
	And instead of sending them home, they send them to Palestine, and then they immediately hand it over to the Rothschilds.
	And I would just like to point out, they didn't hand it over to the World Zionist Congress.
	They handed it over to the Rothschilds.
	Okay, because the Rothschilds are the Zionists.
	They are the creator of the Zionists anyhow.
	Okay, but they didn't create the Jewish mind.
	Okay.
	In other words, all these movements are part of the mind and the behavior of a people.
	So go ahead.
	You have strong opinions of yours, and I appreciate that.
	Right now, today, I'm interested in hearing John's opinions.
	Okay.
	Go ahead and stop them.
	I'm much relieved that I learned that we have probably close to enough time.
	But, you know, I introduced it and you could have disputed me at the time, but that I grew up with Jewish people.
	They were all, well, it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me.
	It doesn't matter to anybody.
	Paul.
	Okay.
	Well, let's go on.
	I want you to drop, Paul.
	I want you to drop.
	I'll get back to you on another occasion.
	Go ahead, John.
	Finish.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you very much, Jim.
	Anyhow, 1903, this is the World Zionist Congress that the British government, Lord Balfour, did not give Palestine to the World Zionist Congress.
	But speaking in 1903, Max Nordo, who was like the number two, he was the chief spokesman for Zionism at the time.
	And he talks about how the issue is going to be Palestine.
	I wish my cursor were so that I could show you, but in the middle it says, we stand before a tremendous upheaval of the whole world.
	I would insist that he's talking about World War I. And he goes on, and England, the great free and powerful England, will then continue to the Work it has begun with its generous offer to give the Jewish people a homeland.
	So, this guy is saying World War I is going to start, England's going to be one of the deciding voices.
	They're going to grab Palestine and they're going to hand it to us.
	And they're saying this in 1903.
	Well, the Zionists are a creation of the Rothschilds, and he's saying this because the Rothschilds told him to say it.
	But it didn't work.
	And I would be interested to see what Paul has to say about the facts that I'm presenting, other than to tell me that all Jewish people are evil.
	But anyhow, it didn't work.
	And I'd like people in the audience and you, Jim, I'm presenting this stuff way out in front of the curb in order to get feedback to see the error of my vision.
	But my observation is that in 1918, the Rothschilds acquired Palestine, and they had now the legal ability without any opposition from the dominant political establishment in Palestine to bring as many Jewish people to Palestine as they wanted.
	And nobody wanted to come.
	The Jews of Europe would rather stay in Rome and Paris and Vienna and London and eat in the finest restaurants in the world.
	Freud was celebrated.
	This Jewish doctor was celebrated.
	Einstein in 1918 was celebrated.
	Mendelssohn is a composer if you don't know.
	And Chicago, an artist, if you don't know.
	And Sarah Bernhardt was the most celebrated actor for 20 years before or after her.
	And she was Jewish.
	And she's just the star of the show.
	Jews had no reason to leave Europe.
	Paul was saying how they were excluded.
	Well, I can't speak to that.
	And it's actually an interesting point.
	I think that most anti-Semitism was fostered by the Rothschilds after 1918 when Jews didn't want to go to Israel.
	I believe the Rothschilds were probably at the bottom of the John.
	We're hitting another break.
	We'll be right back.
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	Well, Jim, there he is.
	Jim.
	Go ahead.
	So very good.
	Thank you very much.
	Well, so the point that I just made to reiterate was that in 1918, the British stole Palestine from the Sultan of Turkey who refused to sell it to them 100 years before, well, 90 years before.
	But they still couldn't get Jewish people to abandon Europe and come to Palestine because, you know, they didn't have running water or flushing toilets, much less.
	And no opera and no museums and no fine restaurants.
	And as I was said before, I'll make the point because I think it's just huge that the most successful scientists and artists in Europe were Jewish.
	Freud and Einstein and Mendelssohn and Chigall and Sarah Bernhardt were just the stars of Europe.
	Why would anybody feel like they had to leave Europe and go and live in Palestine and they didn't?
	So now what are the Rothschilds supposed to do in order to get all of the Jews of Europe to go and, I'm sure you know the answer, their solution was to come up with Hitler and the Holocaust.
	You may not know and your audience is probably very much unaware with this New York Times article.
	Now every book, mainstream scholarly book that was ever written about Hitler cites this article because it is the only source of information on Hitler from the period of 1918 to whenever it was that he was sent to organize the Nazi party, probably around 1924.
	But the author of this article, Captain Mayer, ran into Hitler.
	Hitler, I believe, begged him for a job.
	Mayer was a captain in German Army intelligence.
	Hitler begged him for a job and Mayer recruited him, taught him to give speeches, and Mayer explains how he had to teach Hitler anti-Semitism.
	And the Jewish Encyclopedia, I mean, I started my research on this, geez, 28 years ago.
	I'm sitting at the Holocaust Museum in Beverly Hills in the library, and I'm looking at the Jewish Encyclopedia, and that's one of the first things.
	And I stumbled upon this paragraph about Hitler, about how the first expression of anti-Semitism that the Jewish scholars can find was a letter that Hitler wrote at Captain Mayer's direction full of anti-Semitism.
	But they had to teach it to him, and then they ordered him to write it, and then they ordered him to rewrite it until it was sufficiently anti-Semitic.
	But this is not a secret, like I'm saying.
	You can find it in the Jewish encyclopedia.
	But then they cut out all this other stuff where Mayer talks about how his superior officer was General Ludendorff, and that Ludendorff, he says, well, let me say some less important things first.
	He says Hitler was too stupid to pass the post office exam, that all of his reports had to be rewritten because he was terrible, but he was great at giving a vehement speech.
	That was his talent.
	Ludendorff said, Ludendorff, says Captain Mayer, met weekly with the biggest capitalists in Germany discussing this plan about how they were going to create the Nazi Party and they were going to send Hitler and they sent Hitler and all the leaders of the Nazi Party were sent by German army intelligence to the earliest meetings of the German Workers' Party, it was called at the time.
	There weren't any workers there, but never mind that.
	Anyhow, the point is that the biggest capitalists in Germany were the Rothschilds.
	And if you don't find that persuasive, let's move on.
	But anyway, I.G. Farben.
	Now, Wikipedia has fabulous stuff about this.
	This picture was not available.
	I found it on Wikipedia yesterday.
	IG Farben had this, you're looking at it.
	That is the plant that IG Farben had at Auschwitz.
	And IG, this is a map showing you.
	On the left is the barracks.
	If it shows where the ovens were, I haven't identified it yet.
	But in any case, on the right is the huge IG Farben plant where they produced Zyklon gas, which was used in all of the death camps to murder Jewish people who were sent there.
	And actually, the Zyklon B was used for delousing to kill body lies to maintain the health of the inmates because you can't get work out of a corpse.
	These were labor camps, not death camps.
	In any case, well, and let me say that I don't care.
	I know there are people who dispute 6 million as a figure.
	And looking at Gaza, I don't care.
	60,000 is a genocide.
	I think that Gaza shows, to my satisfaction, if they killed 60,000 Jews, that was a genocide.
	Two of my best friends, they were the in-laws of my best friend, met at Auschwitz.
	They were from Romania, and Romania was one of the last countries evacuated, and they got evacuated to Auschwitz, and then the Allies arrived shortly thereafter.
	But, you know, I lived in Jewish neighborhoods where in the bakery, in the local bakery, all the women in the local bakery had tattoos, numbers tattooed on their arms.
	But in any case, this is not the point.
	You know, you have pictures like this.
	I don't think that's a fake picture.
	I think the Holocaust, however many Jews were murdered, what they did was horrific.
	And if these kids were Palestinian, you and I would be equally as horrified as anyone else as we are at this picture.
	But, you know, Auschwitz was the center Of the Holocaust.
	I.G. Farben ran Auschwitz.
	This is Nuremberg.
	All of those guys you see in that box are officers of IG Farben.
	I think something like 14 of them were convicted.
	You can look it up on Wikipedia.
	The Rockefellers sent their guy to intervene to make sure none of them went to prison and none of them did.
	The Rockefellers also had a few buildings at Auschwitz.
	This is the IG Farben headquarters.
	It was absolutely the most fabulous corporate headquarters on the planet when it was built in 1930.
	It probably still is.
	I mean, look at it.
	It's really, really an artwork masterpiece.
	And you want to guess where it's built?
	It's built on the Rothschild estate.
	And you're going to have to dig a little bit to find that one.
	But if you Google the name of that building, the I.G. Farben House and Rothschild, you will find out that it was built on the Rothschild estate.
	Well, if it was the richest corporation in the world at the time, it had to be owned by the richest people in the world at the time, which was the Rothschilds.
	And you will certainly notice that the Rothschilds, as the owners of Palestine and of Zionism, were the chief beneficiaries of the Holocaust.
	So it is perfectly natural to think that they would have been behind the Holocaust.
	And you know the transfer agreement, right?
	People in your audience probably are familiar with the transfer agreement by which the Nazis grabbed the richest Jews in Europe and sent them to Israel along with script that was, you know, millions of dollars worth of script that they could then use to purchase German goods.
	The point is they sent, in summary, the richest Jews in Europe with their money to Israel.
	Well, that's what the Rothschilds wanted and couldn't get in 1918, but the Nazis gave it to them.
	Unfortunately for the Rothschilds, the Nazis lost World War II.
	They lost the Battle of Stalingrad.
	That was the turning point in the war.
	They ended up losing everything.
	And this is the key point, which is that at the beginning of World War II, Roosevelt was fiercely anti-colonialist.
	Roosevelt said that colonialism is the cause of all of the world's ills, and he forced Churchill to sign the Atlantic Charter, in which Churchill swore that he would end British participation in colonialism, and he would join the fight against colonialism, and he would endorse the principle that all peoples in all areas of the planet should be able to choose their own governments.
	They murdered.
	Stalin told Roosevelt's son, with whom he was good friends, that Churchill murdered Roosevelt so that they wouldn't have to implement this.
	And so China had to fight, and India had to fight, and all of Africa had to fight.
	All these Vietnam and Southeast Asia had to fight.
	And the British Empire and all the imperialists, right, all the colonial powers lost.
	And really, Palestine is the last battle for native peoples to get the foot of the colonialists off their necks.
	And this is my final point.
	They lost that battle.
	I think that you're going to agree with this, that Iran just, geez, Iran kicked the U.S.'s ass very, very quietly, right?
	The U.S., Israel attacked Iran and Iran very quietly at first.
	The first response was that Iran hit military installations, but they would hit empty buildings and they would hit airport runways to demonstrate to the Israelis, look, we can penetrate your defenses.
	And Israel went ahead with it anyhow.
	And you have surely heard the reports that Israel's military got really, really, really powerfully hit by Iranian missiles.
	Have you heard that?
	Of course.
	Yes, I'm a part of it.
	Yeah, I believed that I had seen that you had.
	Anyhow, yeah, it's all over the place.
	And I don't know whether you reported this.
	But Iran did the same thing to the United States.
	There's 30,000 soldiers on bases around Iran that the Iranians could have hit, and they chose not to.
	But Qatar published this.
	There's this dome sitting on a U.S. military base in Qatar.
	And Qatar published this.
	And they take you, Qatar takes you onto the ground to show you.
	This is what it looks like on the ground.
	And they take you inside to show you.
	It was full of military hardware.
	This is obviously a very, very sophisticated radar detection screen to supposedly provide air defense.
	And that's what it looks like now.
	And I just, so the point is the Iranians have demonstrated clearly and powerfully the superiority of their missile system.
	So the good news is the Rothschilds dominated the world in 1825 and they have lost and they are losing.
	And I think that this kind of, I'm open to the suggestion that this shows the war is over and they have lost.
	And that's essentially my presentation.
	Well, very, very, very, very good.
	I'll reclaim host.
	Oh, and hang on, one more.
	Go ahead.
	Just that one.
	And after people can look at it, it says, ask me why Washington freed his slaves.
	I figured it out yesterday, but go ahead and reclaim host.
	No, I already did.
	Say why Washington didn't freed the fight.
	Go ahead.
	Just tell me.
	Well, and I thought it was really, really, really admirable.
	I thought, and I've said this on any number of occasions to any number of people, that I thought, you know, Jefferson didn't do that.
	I thought, Jesus, Jefferson didn't free his children who were slaves, but Washington freed all of Them, well, you see, as I explained earlier, the Rothschilds and the City of London bankers were locked into this life or death battle with the sugar barons.
	And the thing that would just absolutely exterminate the sugar barons, well, the American Revolution really, really hit the sugar barons hard and put them very much back on their heels and cut their profits probably by 90%.
	But the Rothschilds wanted to obliterate them, and so they wanted to get the king to free the slaves in the Caribbean.
	And in order to persuade the king, you see, King, even the Americans recognize that this is the way things are going.
	Look, Washington on his deathbed freed his slaves.
	You see, you should be at least as moral as Washington.
	Washington was trying, say the Rothschilds to King George, you should try to show at least as much moral leadership as Washington, and you should free the slaves.
	And they, but, but, but George III objected, and he said, well, you know, you have to compensate the slave owners.
	You can't just do that and not compensate them.
	And the Rothschild said, look, we'll handle that.
	You free them, and we'll handle the compensation.
	And so George freed them.
	The value of slaves plummeted to less than nothing because here are these guys.
	You can't hold a slave, but you got to feed them.
	So owning a slave became a negative.
	The Rothschilds bought them all up for nothing.
	And then they told the king, look, we will give you a loan for 180 years.
	I saw this in the newspaper maybe a year and a half ago, that the loan had just expired, that the British had finally made the last payment on their loan to the Rothschilds to reimburse the slave owners, who I am sure at that point were 99% Rothschild, for King George having freed the slaves.
	But so that, you know, I'm open to arguments and, oh, you're wrong about this, you're wrong about that.
	But with a lot of fascinating aspects of what you presented, and I probably agree 80 or more percent, I do think you're mistaken about the Holocaust.
	I mean, the reason Auschwitz and Varbun were in the same locale is because they were using the inmates as workers at Farben.
	They did this all over the place.
	There weren't any gas chambers.
	You don't think there were gas chambers?
	There weren't any gas chambers.
	Well, Fred Lochter, who was the leading expert on gas chambers, went to the camps.
	This is in 1988, so he could testify in a trial in Canada of a noted Holocaust denier and came back with the results there were no facilities there that could have possibly functioned as gas chambers.
	There weren't.
	And we had the Luchter report, and Fred Luchter has even appeared at two of my false flag and conspiracy conferences, John.
	You want to check it out.
	Robert Forisson has a wonderful piece about Ernst Zundels 1984 and 1988, where 1984 was significant because the prosecutor could produce a single witness who could testify to have seen anyone put to death in a gas chamber.
	And the retrial in 88 because of Lochter's report that there were no gas chambers.
	So, of course, no one was put to death in a gas chamber.
	The total of all causes combined was 296,081.
	International Committee of the Red Cross was all over this, all the documents.
	Nick Kohlerstrom has published a new book called Breaking the Spell, for which I wrote the introduction.
	He explained how he had access to the British death books because they cracked the German code and confirmed the reports that Germans were very meticulous with all these records.
	I mean, the whole gas chamber business was a total myth.
	Now, Paul has been very patient, and he has a number of points he'd like to make.
	I mean, it's utterly unsurprising when we're dealing with complex and controversial issues, there are going to be differences of opinion.
	So I welcome that and encourage debate.
	And I'll have Paul come in and then you can respond.
	Paul, go ahead, give us your critique.
	Well, here's the thing is to me, okay, I'll just address briefly what was said earlier because John, you know, I respect all the work and all the connections he's made and all the historical references.
	All that is valid.
	I would never quibble with a lot of those details.
	Okay.
	But what John did is he characterized my position as saying that all Jewish people are evil.
	I don't know if you heard that, Jim.
	Okay.
	And prior to that, when I made my point, he said that not only did he disagree, but he was offended.
	And I'm thinking to myself, well, why?
	Why would somebody be offended at somebody else pointing out some obvious things?
	I think it's a little bit telling that you just had to bring John up to speed on the Holocaust.
	Okay.
	And it kind of makes me wonder, well, for example, you know, how many other so-called conspiracies is he not aware of as most people are not aware of?
	In many cases, what people fail to understand, the underlying thread, which I've tried to emphasize, and believe me, I'm not alone.
	I didn't invent this line of thinking, right?
	But let's face it, there's a biological nature to everything, including the behavior of people.
	So the Rothschilds are preeminent.
	They're predominant.
	Okay, great.
	I'll give you that.
	But the Rothschilds did not invent Jewish behavior.
	Okay.
	Jewish behavior has existed for a couple of thousand years or more.
	It's been written about.
	And they've been ostracized, put in ghettos, and in many cases, the subject of what they call pogroms for centuries and centuries and centuries.
	And there's a reason for that.
	Now, to say that you were raised with Jewish friends and acquaintances in East LA, that's fine.
	That's interesting.
	We're all human beings.
	We've all lived our lives.
	I've had Jewish friends.
	Jim has had Jewish friends.
	Lots of people listening to the Show have probably had Jewish friends.
	In the end, that does not matter.
	That's like talking about my black friends, right?
	That does not matter because what do blacks do to a society when you bring them in in large numbers?
	It's nothing but destruction.
	So, the problem that most people are going to come to grips with is putting, you know, their humanity, right?
	Their human, their normal human emotions and human empathy against what I could call, and I think people would rightly call, a phenomenon of behavior, a history that is not only written and oral about what the Jewish people have done to various societies they've been involved in.
	They've been thrown out, kicked out, put in ghettos, ostracized.
	There's a reason for that.
	It's because of Jewish behavior.
	Similar to you could say that Japanese have behavior, Germans have behavior, Africans have behavior.
	So that's my point.
	That has to be borne in mind.
	So if you're going to be a farmer or a rancher, you better be prepared to deal with vermin and pests.
	And let's face it, when the Jews take over your money supply and replace it with a counterfeiting operation that gives them the entire wealth of the nation and all commercial transactions, in essence, go through their hands, then you have a problem.
	And that problem has to be dealt with.
	And the bottom line is it doesn't matter whether it's the Rothschilds or anybody else.
	It's the Jews that are in control, not any other ethnic group.
	I think that's of interest to note.
	It's not any other ethnic group.
	It's always been them.
	Well, let me comment from a general evolutionary point of view.
	There are four causal mechanisms of speciation of producing new combinations of genes, genetic mutation, sexual reproduction, genetic drift, and genetic engineering.
	There are similarly four mechanisms of selection in terms of which of those genes are perpetuated in future gene pools, which include natural selection, sexual selection, group selection, and artificial selection.
	Now, what you're talking about is a group selection phenomenon where the leading expert on the Jewish group strategy, and it's been well noted, is Kevin MacDonald.
	You may or may not be familiar with his work, Paul, but this is the guy you want to have on your side because he talks about how the Jews have adopted a group strategy that involves a whole lot of very cohesive promotion of other Jews, acting in concert to promote their goals, suppressing, using untoward tactics and so forth toward other groups that have made them offensive and a problem for past society.
	So I want you, do you know his work, Paul?
	Do you know Kevin McDonnell?
	Of course.
	I have not read his book, but I've heard his work discussed on many, many shows.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because, I mean, he is, in my opinion, the right intellectual source for substantiation on the points you want to make about the rule of the Jews in history.
	And from a very broad evolutionary point of view, all this, by the way, I discuss the difference between genetic and cultural evolution in my book, The Evolution of Intelligence, which is subtitled, Are Humans the Only Animals with Minds?
	John, you're welcome for your response, please.
	And I'm very glad to have you here.
	Well, I'm not interested in discussing the topic.
	I find it offensive, and that's enough to say on that point.
	I'm very interested in this business about the Holocaust as I think about it, about the gas chambers.
	As I think about it, you wouldn't have witnesses to the gas chambers.
	So I know that none of the people that I knew who had tattoos on their arms.
	Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul.
	It is a teacher.
	None of the people that I knew who had tattoos on their arms.
	It's plausible to me that there were no gas chambers.
	And if they only killed 296,000 people, if I was a witness to the murder of 296,000 people, and you know, they starve them, right?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, John.
	You've been played by propaganda.
	Robert Faurisson has been so good on this.
	You really need to read some of his essays on F-A-U-R-I-S-S-O-N.
	He's the leading revisionist historian regarding World War II, Robert Faurisson.
	And if you were to pick up my book, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, you'd find I have a selection of essays about the Holocaust, including by Thomas Dalton, Robert Faurisson, Nicholas Kullstrom, and myself.
	If you want a simple introduction, I published a preface to his book separately.
	It's entitled The Holocaust Narrative, Politics Trumps, Science.
	And if you want a whole lot more, I created a documentary about it, which is on my blog at jameshfeetzer.org under the 65 shows.
	If you go down about three-quarters of the way, you'll find the World War II historical narrative, truth or fiction.
	I mean, look, John, Auschwitz, just look at the map of Auschwitz.
	They have a woodworking shop.
	They have a symphony hall.
	They have a hospital with OBGYN facilities.
	They have a brothel.
	One of the generals convinced Hitler that the men would work more enthusiastically if they knew they'd be rewarded with sex.
	Hitler bought into it.
	Hundreds of babies were born at these camps, John.
	We'll continue sometime, John.
	Thank you for being here.
	Paul, thank you for being here.
	Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
	Don't waste a precious word of it.
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