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The Raw Deal (12 May 2025) with Co-Host Keith Rodgers and Special Guest Joe Olson

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	I'm so much younger than today.
	I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days have gone out and I'm not so self-assured.
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	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Thank you.
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 11th day of May 2025, joined by my co-host, Keith Rogers?
	We may be joined by Joelson and Joaquin Egopian at the bottom of the hour or sooner.
	In fact, Joe is here now.
	Astonishing development.
	Trump cuts ties with Netanyahu over manipulation concerns.
	Israeli Army Radio says U.S. presidents cut off direct contact with Benjamin Netanyahu amid growing bilateral tensions.
	U.S. President Donald Trump has decided to cut off direct contact with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	A report said Thursday.
	Yener Kosen, correspondent for Israeli Army Radio, Senate Post on X, Trump made the decision after close associates told Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer that the president believes Netanyahu is trying to manipulate him.
	An Israeli official added, Dermer's tone during recent discussions with senior Republican figures about what Trump should do were seen as arrogant and unhelpful.
	Officials said people around Trump told him Netanyahu was manipulating him.
	There's nothing Trump hates more than being portrayed as a fool or someone being played.
	That's why he decided to cut contact with Netanyahu.
	Pozen pointed to the Israeli government's failure to present a concise plan and timeline regarding Iran and with Yemen's Houthis as a source of worsening U.S.-Israeli relations.
	The Army radio correspondent also highlighted the Netanyahu government has failed to offer a concrete plan and proposal.
	Here's another, this time from Information Liberation.
	It's the moment Donald Trump became president, at least if this report is true.
	Anadolu agency?
	Trump cuts ties with Netanyahu over manipulation concerns, as I have just reported.
	This now might just be a bait and switch to get Iran to take its guard down, but with a deal announced Trump announced with the Houthis, praising their bravery, In withstanding U.S. attacks, which, of course, by the way, numbered over a thousand, it's possible we may actually be on the precipice of a sea change.
	I shared an article in March.
	This is Chris Minahan.
	I shared an article in March about how Israelis said they feared Trump could at any moment do a 180 and drop them like he dropped Ukraine.
	As Jewish Insider reported, According to Chatham House senior fellow and former Knesset member Kasina Svetlova, what happened in the White House with Zelensky shows the U.S. doesn't have a constant policy or permanent allies, if there are no permanent allies.
	If Ukraine is thrown into the trash after all these years, no one is abused.
	According to upset Lowe at the fact Biden had been throwing some weapons shipments to Israel, Amid domestic political pressure shows there are no holy cows, not even Israel.
	Even in current terms, Trump can change.
	If there are no constant interests or doctrines, that means anything can change.
	Israel must be prepared to become like Ukraine.
	I heard similar while watching a panel at the Jewish New Syndicate's International Policy Summit last week.
	One panelist.
	Sarah Stern at the Endowment for Middle East Truth said she's very afraid.
	The U.S.-Israeli relationship as it stands has only two years left.
	Stern lamented the rise of the Tucker Carlson wing of the Republican Party.
	It's very scary, saying, I have to be very honest that I'm worried.
	We might have a two-year window to get a lot accomplished.
	I'm afraid the Democrats might take the House, might take the Senate.
	We have a lot of work to do.
	With a majority of Americans now opposing Israel, the gap between what the American people want and what Congress is giving us is growing larger by the day could certainly boil over.
	There was a poll last month suggesting Chuck Schumer could potentially be ousted by...
	Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, incredible as that sounds.
	The Israelis are afraid because they know the American public have turned against them.
	And the U.S.-Israel special relationship is just a house of cards built on bribes and blackmail.
	Well, let me begin with Keith.
	Give me your thoughts, Keith, about this rather stunning development.
	As far as AOC, remember, she's the one that stood there with Chuck Schumer on the streets of New York and told people if they were to go down to their medical examiner and have them modify the cause of death, that FEMA would give them $8,500.
	This is the extent of the corruption that AOC had to have known about.
	This was to inflate the numbers, just like all these town council meetings where they decided...
	And this is on, like, Zoom and stuff, where they decided that all deaths would be listed as COVID.
	So when you remember that motorcyclist was killed, they listed his death as COVID, but actually he died in a head-on collision.
	But the only thing I can say about, I think you're kind of correct on this bait-and-switch type stuff, because there's so much going on in the Middle East right now, because...
	The only way to look at it is to research proposed pipelines across the Middle East.
	And you'll see that they're not giving up on that.
	And of course, they're not giving up on Iran for the fact that they need to chokehold China because China gets its oil from Iran.
	They're all what they call the soft underbelly, just like Ukraine is.
	If Trump was tired of all the death in Ukraine, why are they sending more arms?
	Why don't they just get this over?
	Well, they can't, see?
	Because this is, what's his name, Brian Berlich?
	As he states, in all these white papers and stuff from the Brookings Institute, Atlantic Council, Council on Foreign Relations, this war with Russia has been planned for a long, long time.
	When Trump says, you know, that he inherited it or something like that.
	No.
	Remember, he sent the javelins and stuff, you know, in his first administration like that.
	This has all been...
	I mean, it just has to go on like that because it's just part of this full-spectrum dominance where those that write these papers and stuff, or as Senator Black said, that's why when they hand out an 8,000 -page bill...
	He says they only get 70 hours to read it, and that's why Nancy Pelosi would say, well, we'll have to pass it to see what's in it.
	And that's where you find out that everything is written in there by lawyers and stuff like that to swindle the American people.
	These politicians don't know what's going on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Joe, I'm delighted you're here.
	Your thoughts about this apparent break between Trump and Netanyahu, which I agree, would.
	Assuming it's real.
	I mean, Trump is now becoming the President of the United States and maybe, just maybe, is going to put America first rather than Israel.
	If all you have is a mag of hammer, everything looks like a nail.
	And that's the way he treats absolutely every issue.
	I'm looking through my notes.
	I can't find it yet, but I've got something that was in the Hebrew press where he, in 2016, said he was converting to Judaism.
	And so I'll put the link to that.
	If I can't find it right now, I'll put it in the code.
	As far as perpetual wars, all you have to do is do wiki color revolutions.
	And just in...
	Eastern Europe, since 2002, there have been dozens of overthrows of governments, including in 2004 and 2014 in Ukraine, and all of those are Jewishly instigated.
	All the oligarchs in Ukraine are Jewish, Zylensky's Jewish, and it benefits Jewish bankers, and so that's the problem there.
	There's a great website called Tales of American Empire, and they've got...
	150 hour-long, I mean 15 minute long videos, and they've got two dozen on the Anglo-American war with Russia.
	So as far as Israel, they've been the biggest enemy of our nation ever since they were founded.
	And if you want to, you can go all the way back to Woodrow Wilson getting blackmailed into going into World War I for these folks.
	You can go to Sykes-Picot, you can go Balfour, you can go the whole thing.
	And Zionism wasn't created until the 1880s.
	But anyhow, let me keep looking for this info.
	We know, we know, Joe.
	He was born before he appeared to have converted in 2017.
	Same year, Joe Biden, the real Joe Biden, appears to have died.
	Here's Phil Giraldi, fed up with Benjamin Netanyahu.
	I'm in the past speculated the day might come when Trump, with a massive ego, might become tired of being manipulated and controlled by America's Israel lobby and Prime Minister Netanyahu in particular.
	I thought and hoped he might become so annoyed he might move to take control of the so-called tail-wags-the-dog relationship.
	That has for so long put Israel in the driver's seat.
	While I'm loathe to read too much in the recent developments, the first suggestion is all is not well in Washington's relationship with what is euphemistically referred to as America's best friend and closest ally.
	Many observers are openly voicing their view Israel and its all-powerful lobby have corrupted and now control many aspects of government.
	Starting at the job in Washington, working down to state and local lab halls.
	Witness the near warship by groveling Congress critters during the recent visit to Capitol Hill if you want a tangible display of government serving no conceivable national interest.
	Or check out the anti-Semitism and anti-boycott legislation moving through Congress that would strip all Americans of free speech and free association.
	Leaving them able to demonstrate or even criticize their own country or other nations with the single exception of the Jewish state.
	If you don't believe this will happen, check out the current tale coming out of St. Marcos in Texas at the hands of ardently Zionist Governor Greg Abbott, given that Jews constitute something like 3% of the U.S. population.
	The establishment of such control through bribery and the support of a compliant media is truly a remarkable achievement.
	What one might argue plausibly is done terrible damage to the country as a whole contributed nothing to benefit the American people.
	Israel is currently carrying out a genocide against the Palestinians that is funded, armed, and provided with political cover by the Trump admin.
	Following on to the model established by Genocide Joe, which could be stopped with one phone call to Netanyahu from the White House.
	But unfortunately, up until now, no one has been picking up the phone.
	I must have been shocked to have read some of the recent coverage, mostly coming out of Israel and other foreign media, of course, describing the rift between Trump and Netanyahu.
	The sign trouble could be brewing might well be dated back to January 11th with Special Envoy Witkoff demanding a meeting in Tel Aviv with Netanyahu.
	He said it was Saturday the Sabbath.
	Witkoff, acting under orders, insisted the meeting be held.
	It turned out to be a tense exchange, including demand that a ceasefire for Gaza, drawn by the White House, be implemented.
	And so it was, though Netanyahu later proceeded to withdraw from it and recommence hostility before it entered phase two on March 1st.
	A demand by Trump Netanyahu should visit him in Washington early April followed, and there were reported disagreements about the admins tariff plan in U.S. negotiations with Hamas.
	Without Israel's input.
	Discussions also concern U.S. discussions with Iran to restore J-PAC canceled by Trump during his first term to monitor the Iranian nuclear program to prevent it from being weaponized.
	Netanyahu is demanding a Libya solution, including a war.
	With U.S. forces that would have destroyed Iran's defensive capabilities, something even a White House, disinclined to deal with reality, realized could never be accepted in Tehran.
	Netanyahu is reported also angry at the Trump administration's resistance to his own plan to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians while also going to war with the Iranians.
	So, the U.S. moved to negotiate with Hamas directly sidelining Israel.
	Started a rebellion on the part of Washington, followed by negotiating with Iran without Israel's input.
	There was also a U.S. negotiation with Saudi Arabia, again, without including Israel, over the kingdom's desire to develop its own civil nuclear program.
	And finally, there was last week's decision to enter into a ceasefire with the Houthis after direct negotiation, described by the White House comically.
	As a capitulation, some observers accept that the language would have been questioned who had surrendered in a war that cost in excess of a billion and accomplished nothing.
	Israel, for its part, was not involved in either talks or agreement, leading the aggrieved Netanyahu vowed to defend ourselves.
	Keith, your thoughts?
	This is pretty serious stuff.
	Well, I think things are changing because this morning the Israelis are chanting that Bibi is Hamas.
	Bibi is Hamas.
	Yeah.
	And this has to do with the release of the Jewish American prisoner.
	But it also has to do with Bibi is losing his moral majority type stuff of what he believes.
	That's why you're having so many.
	Was it 100,000 IDF desertions?
	Others, it just won't show up.
	If the true note, what gets me is that Hannibal directive.
	Everyone can look back now and see October 7th was staged.
	If you were breaking things down, GM would be like, there's a U.S. Air Force base just north of Gaza there.
	It's got some of the most sophisticated radar in the world to protect Israel from the Persian missiles.
	That radar would have caught those little paragliders and stuff like that floating around.
	I mean, even the IDF says it was so meticulous on the border and stuff that a rabbit or something like that would set off an alarm and stuff.
	You know, that's how much security they had.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So all this is like, it's culminating now, and I think Trump has realized more and more, and I'm not defending Trump by any way, but I think Trump is defending more and more the fact that he sees what...
	Israel has gotten the United States in, tagged as co-genocidal, which is kind of like the co-belligerent up there in Ukraine, too.
	But anyway, they've got America wrapped up in all these bombings and stuff.
	And even Trump, when he bombed that circle of those tribal leaders down in Yemen and stuff, they weren't militarized.
	They were just civilians.
	But all this has been done for Israel, and I think that's kind of where Trump is trying to walk some of this back.
	Yes, yes.
	Joe, your thoughts?
	Yeah, well, Nutty Yahoo has 27, his party has 27% vote in the Knesset, but he made coalitions with several other parties to get a 51% rule.
	So he's very unpopular.
	He's got multiple scandals where he's trying to dodge criminal prosecution.
	So he's in a real delicate situation.
	There's not a bigger war criminal on the planet at this particular time than that guy, other than maybe Zayel Linsky.
	And if you look at what's really happening, Israel has always wanted to do the Greater Israel-Yanon Plan, where it's from the Nile to the Euphrates.
	And look at all the governments they've overthrown.
	There were 2 million Aramaic speakers in Syria in 2011.
	This is the original Semitic language that all the rest of them are derived from, including Hebrew.
	And that was the language of Jesus.
	And there were hundreds of Aramaic churches, and they've all been destroyed.
	There's less than 20,000 Aramaics living in Syria right now, and they're in the process of killing them.
	killed in Ukraine, that's Eastern Orthodox Russians and Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians, because the Jews aren't sending their own citizens from either of those populations into the meat grinders.
	So that's what we're dealing with.
	We're dealing with the most evil force on the planet.
	But the wonderful thing is now we've got BRICS as a counter to the uniparty fiat currency greenback, and we've got a coalition of And we've got the aligned countries now have, like you say, 51% of the United States doesn't support Israel anymore.
	And once you get that sea change, it's going to be catastrophic for them.
	And it's no more deserving tribe of reproach than that particular tribe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We certainly all agree with that.
	Here's Colonel McGregor talking about whether...
	Over the weekend, Prime Minister Netanyahu announced that the IDF would soon occupy all of Gaza.
	He threatened to attack Iran because a Houthi missile landed at Ben-Gurion Airport, and he threatened President Erdogan of Turkey.
	Mr. Netanyahu has, right now, in his mind and in the minds of his countrymen, the unconditional backing of the United States and access to the employment of the United States Armed Forces.
	In whatever way he chooses.
	That's very important to understand.
	The man wants to settle, in his mind, accounts with all of his neighbors.
	That means they have to be subjugated, killed, destroyed, if necessary, in order to make the world safe for Israel and the Greater Israel Project.
	That's where he is.
	So he's unafraid and would seem to be at a distance incautious, but for the reasons I just outlined, he's unafraid to challenge anybody because he thinks he can take on the world, at least in his part of the world in the Middle East, because he has our unconditional backing.
	Now this, let me just add, this is only 19 hours ago.
	So I'm kind of surprised Colonel McGregor isn't acknowledging the apparent split.
	Let's see what else he has to say.
	And this is very important to understand, Judge, because we're trying to resume talks with Iran.
	Anyone who thinks that the talks that we're trying to resume with Iran have any interest or importance to Mr. Netanyahu is wrong.
	Mr. Netanyahu has an agenda, and that agenda means to subjugate Iran.
	To take away its capacity to produce a nuclear weapon permanently.
	If that means destroying Iranian society, if it means killing the members of the Iranian government, that's fine.
	That's where he is.
	When we talk about Gaza, he's not talking about simply moving into Gaza.
	He's talking about finishing off what there is left of the population in Gaza.
	And he's probably aware, because I'm sure the Mossad has provided him with this kind of intelligence, That if he goes in and butchers the rest of this population, or sets out to, that the Egyptian army on the other side will not sit and do nothing.
	They will become involved.
	And the King of Jordan has allegedly, privately said, if that happens, that he will support the Egyptians.
	Now that's the beginning of a regional war, because neither the Iranians, nor the Turks, nor the Saudis, nor anybody else in the region are going to sit there quietly and ignore what happens.
	Let me get thoughts from Keith right off the bat.
	Keith.
	I'd like to comment on what Colonel Doug McGregor said, that Bebe, a foreign government, has control of the U.S. military.
	That's all you need to know.
	Well, but it appears maybe he doesn't because of the split with Trump.
	I mean, I'm kind of surprised that we didn't hear McGregor factoring that in.
	Joe, your thoughts?
	Well, like you said, that just happened.
	And you've got to worry whether this is really a smokescreen or whether something is really happening.
	The reason we ended up being in so many Middle Eastern wars was because of the project for the new American century where we need to overthrow seven Middle East countries in five years.
	But we needed a new Pearl Harbor.
	So that's why we got 9-1-1.
	That put us in Afghanistan and Iraq.
	But that wasn't enough.
	So then in 2011...
	When Obambi was president, they did the CIA Operation Zero Footprint, where they armed the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow Tunisia, Yemen.
	In 2011, Egypt, where they had the Arab Spring, and then Libya.
	And after they overthrew Libya, they took the weapons under CIA Operation Timber Sycamore, sent them through Turkey to Syria so they could overthrow Syria.
	The only one left on the list is Iran.
	And so that's been on their hit list for a century.
	And that's what they want to destroy everybody.
	So problem is that Iran ends up having a strong enough...
	And it's pretty obvious to the Arabs that they're supporting somebody who is exterminating Arabs on a regular basis and intends to overthrow every government and dominate the whole entire region.
	So now the Arabs are starting to become aligned.
	This whole thing can turn as quickly as the Twin Towers fell.
	Keith, I know you have the story you wanted to add here about the vaccines and evidently not going after Pfizer.
	Would you care to comment, please?
	Well, yeah, this is really deep.
	A man could do three shows about this.
	I mean...
	This was a U.S. bioweapon.
	They ordered it out, like the guy from Moderna says, we received an email.
	They didn't receive any virus or something like that, but he says we received an email and proceeded to make the vaccine.
	The point was, is...
	Is Fauci leaked?
	Well, it wasn't leaked, but anyone could download it.
	Anyway, Fauci's email is about 2022, something like that.
	One is from NIH to Fauci, which says, here's how we created the bioweapon.
	And it starts out with HIV.
	And then BBC had ran that 38-second clip about how they clamped the spike protein with HIV.
	Keith, hold that dot.
	We'll be right back after this.
	We can continue.
	With Keith Rogers and Joe Olson, we'll be right back.
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	Okay.
	Heath, go right ahead.
	All right, well, so, thanks.
	Anyway, we also have Senator Johnson now saying that they're destroying the COVID evidence.
	Right before that was Secretary of State Anthony Blinken sitting there before Rand Paul, who for four years had been asking for the documentation on the so-called origins of COVID.
	And what Rand Paul received was two stacks of paper.
	One was about 250.
	The other was 300.
	And then, of course, you've got to remember, March 11, 2020, is when the banks took a massive drop.
	March 11, 2020 also is when the NIH sent the email to Fauci about here's how we created the bioweapon.
	And then also March 11, 2020 is also when WHO declared a world pandemic.
	Now this is funny there because we still have Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at the time.
	Standing there talking about being in the middle of a live exercise, and Trump leaned into him and says, you should have told us.
	And then, of course, we have CIA Mike Pompeo sitting there in Congress there, what he refuses to say whether or not COVID was a hoax.
	Anyway, to round it out there is the U.S. banks are going down as usual.
	They needed to take down China's economy, so that's why it instantly came out with China, China.
	And now another one of these politicians domestically says that COVID was made in North Carolina.
	But anyway, the whole thing is coming undone, and that's when Trump came out and says that he wanted kind of like restitutions from China of $10 trillion.
	Now we've had Blinken, Yellen, and all these guys going over to China and stuff trying to stop China's growth.
	Well, the whole problem is that the United States deindustrialized decades ago.
	They took our high-paying union jobs, our 40 hours a week, paid health care, overtime, sick leave, pregnancy leave, and a paid two-week vacation.
	They took it all.
	And they got that cheap labor from China, and it built China up.
	And of course, what did China do?
	Well, you can get online and look.
	They built massive cities, bridges, rail systems, high speed, of course, you know.
	And here in America, they have been gutting this country ever since.
	So this is why we're having the banking fiascos that we're having.
	In fact, if you get on your browser of choice and search in the...
	Banking scandals in the United States.
	You'll be there reading for quite a while.
	And of course, none of these guys, just like Big Pharma, none of them ever go to jail.
	With the Sackler family, with Prudhoe, over 300 different businesses were involved in this massive amount of OxyContin coming in, of which killed a million Americans.
	And they all got blanket immunity from prosecution if they paid the $4.7 billion or something like that.
	Well, they print the money.
	I guess they can afford it, right?
	Nice points.
	Nice points.
	Joe, would you like to comment on Keith regarding the VAX?
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, Texas went into emergency...
	Declared by the governor on March 19, 2020.
	And that was only allowed to be effective for two weeks without emergency session.
	Of this legislature to approve extension.
	But instead, he never allowed the legislature to meet because we didn't want anybody to catch COVID.
	And so he continued with the lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and contact tracing.
	I attended 50 rallies in two years over the state of Texas with every medical export you could possibly imagine.
	And one of the rallies I attended was in Dallas.
	Can you turn on my camera?
	Yes, sir.
	Is she your camera?
	Oh, okay.
	I can't see it.
	All right.
	This is a woman, Shelly Luther, who opened her hair salon two days before the governor said she could, and she was thrown in jail for a week.
	And she's currently a member of the state legislature.
	And then I was writing articles.
	I wrote 10 articles involving what was going on in the state of Texas.
	And one of them is really good.
	It's called Wu Flu Bat Stew News for you.
	As a coincidence, I had to have four semesters of chemistry when I was in college, and I aced college chemistry, and one of my favorite families to study was called the alkaloid family.
	And alkaloids include nicotine, caffeine, codeine, all of the psychedelic drugs, strychnine, which is a poison.
	They also include quinine.
	Which is derived from the bark of a South American tree.
	This is the best preventative and cure for malaria that there possibly is.
	And so I started doing a little bit extra research on hydroxychloroquine, which is stabilized quinine.
	And it turns out that it decalcifies your pineal gland.
	It also decalcifies your pituitary and your thyroid gland.
	And how do those glands get calcified?
	Because your body has to have iodine.
	Which is in the halogen period 7 family of the chemical table.
	And when you ingest fluoride and chlorine, it displaces the iodine and has a greater affinity for calcium.
	So basically, by putting fluoride and chlorine in our water system, we have been systematically poisoning ourselves, reducing our hormone and immune systems, because that's by design.
	And that's why they wouldn't let you have...
	Hydroxychloroquine, HCQ, when the off-label uses for it includes lupus, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis.
	It is an anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal.
	It's an absolutely wonderful medicine.
	It's been on the WHO list of mandatory medicines since 1950.
	And it's been in the AMA as a mandatory medicine since 1950, but it's not patent medicine, so they can't make a fortune off of it.
	That's why we couldn't have a good, effective treatment.
	Great points, Joe.
	I'm absolutely sensational about the fluoride and chlorine, especially in terms of their chemical effect on the human body.
	Keith?
	Yeah, I was just going to add some more premeditation on here to what Joel was saying there.
	And also, Joe, nice to meet you.
	Anyway...
	The fact is, remember the two weeks to flatten the curve, everything shuts down like that, and suddenly when everything opens up, all the plastic sets are stored as barriers.
	You've got all these six-feet decals.
	So who was making all this stuff?
	And of course, if stores across the entire America was putting in these plastic barriers for coughing and stuff like that, What was the backorder on these things?
	Every single store doing this, you know?
	I mean, this all had to be premeditated.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	Even DOD have been involved.
	Joe, go ahead.
	In addition, with the contact tracing, which I was going to mention earlier, This was a PPP fund that was through the government.
	It's a $250 million grant to the state of Texas to contact trace everybody.
	So they were going to list every cell phone and every CCTV camera in every store.
	And anytime you walk past somebody that sneezed, they were going to send you a notice that you had contact tracing and they needed to.
	And so this was supposed to be a bid.
	And $250 million, AT&T submitted a proposal where they had the infrastructure to be able to implement this pretty easily, but it was given to a company called MTX, which was a Google front company that never had a presence in the state of Texas, claimed to have hundreds of employees, but we found out they only had about 30 or 40 employees, and all the employees lived in Pakistan.
	So this is what Governor Abbott did with the money.
	He gave it to Google so Google could kick it back to him.
	He's also in charge of a state enterprise fund where they have $400 million a year.
	And he was giving money to Apple, Tesla, Airbnb, a fraud group called WeWork, Uber.
	All these different companies are getting $20 million grants out of this $400 million fund.
	And then suddenly he quit publishing what he was spending the funds on.
	Texas Tribune sued him and said, why can't we see what this is being done?
	So he took it all the way to the Supreme Court.
	And our crooked rhino Supreme Court.
	The court said, this is executive action.
	He doesn't have to tell you.
	So how much of our $400 million a year enterprise fund has been going directly to Israel?
	And that goes back to that San Marcos article that you were talking about earlier.
	$4 million from a town with a population of 72,000 people is being sent to Israel because we are ruled by that tiny tyrant country.
	Well, if the Trump break is real, maybe things are going to change.
	Keith, what's your assessment?
	I'm glad I had a few tokes before I come on here.
	This is really humorous.
	But anyway, I swear.
	When I look at what's going on in the world like that, it's like...
	Zelensky, you know, it's kind of like at the beck and call of the United States.
	Oh, you know, sit down, don't say anything like that.
	You know, this morning they're showing the videos of Macron in the, what's it, Stommer and stuff like that, snorting cocaine on the table there.
	I mean, no matter, yeah.
	I mean, this is, remember during COVID, a fake pandemic.
	Australian stuff, all their politicians, Andrews and stuff, all got caught, that other horse-teeth woman, all got caught snorting coke like that, you know?
	And then also, they're the same ones that, when everything is supposed to have settled down, they said, well, we never forced you to do anything.
	Yeah, the hell you didn't.
	You made it so people couldn't go to work, everything like that.
	I mean, this has got to be one of the biggest swindles on all mankind.
	And the problem is, though, is you're talking...
	As that article I said to you earlier, that more deaths have been from this jab than World War I, World War II, and Vietnam.
	And of course, yeah, and with the VAERS thing, it only reports like 1% or something like that.
	Can you imagine the amount of deaths not just here domestically in the United States, but globally, you know?
	I think we have an estimate of 450 million in China alone, Keith.
	My estimate has been worldwide about a billion, and I think that estimate turns out to be correct.
	Joe, you wanted it?
	Well, I was just going to say, that video I have from Malaysia, I dubbed it off of a seven-hour video.
	But anyway, towards the end of it, he says that this was a New World Order conference in Malaysia in 2015, and they said they have plans to kill at least three billion.
	At least three billion, he said.
	So, again, though, this is all premeditated.
	So when they're talking about to the last Ukrainian or get rid of all the Palestinians, do you realize that if you go to the NIH website and type in with italics eugenics, how many pages on the NIH are under eugenics?
	And then it crosses over to the Human Health Services.
	So, I don't know.
	The tie-in, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Of course.
	Joe, did you want to add more or should we turn to the other subject?
	Well, all these things are DARPA programs.
	So this is the United States military attacking the entire world.
	And not only does it cause an enormous amount of health problems, it also sterilizes men and women.
	So the women now can't get pregnant.
	The men's sperm don't swim anymore.
	So everything has to be...
	In vitro fertilization, which means that only the selected wealthy people can have offspring, and they have no control over which ovums and which sperms are actually being installed in them.
	So basically, we're in a new world.
	What was the one?
	I'm trying to remember the name of the book.
	I read it 100 years ago.
	It was the competition to 1984.
	Joe, I know you want to talk about rape allegations against the president.
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	Joe, give us your thoughts.
	Yeah, as a matter of fact, I was just looking it up.
	It's Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, and that's exactly the reality that they've, along with 1984, and we're living 100% in those two environments at this particular point, and it's by design.
	He was a Confederate general and then ended up creating the Ku Klux Klan, and he was also a 33-degree mason.
	He said, and I've got the title of his book.
	I'll put it down in the show notes so we can talk about it a little bit further.
	But anyhow, I've got it written down where I can't find it instantly, and I don't want to misquote it.
	But he said, Free World Wars II in the 19...
	20th century, and then the final one in 2025.
	So it looks like that's where we're headed.
	And biological warfare is definitely warfare.
	Joe, let me just intervene here and get Keith's opinion.
	How can this guy, way back when, be predicting World Wars, you know, the following century after his death?
	I find this bizarre.
	Your take, Keith.
	All right, well...
	I like how Joel intro'd that.
	It was pretty good there.
	Because remember, as BLM and Antifa were going around crashing everything, burning the government building stuff, destroying statues, that Donald Trump personally requested to restore the statue of Albert Pike.
	And when I read that, I just went, wow.
	It's like...
	The Masonic type stuff.
	All this stuff is just...
	It reminded me of Bill Cooper when Bill Cooper was explaining a theory on the Bible.
	He says either it was written and it's all bogus or it's true.
	The problem is, though, is our world leaders seem to be following it like a script.
	So I thought that was pretty good the way he said that.
	How does...
	How is Pike able to anticipate events of this degree of complexity, you know, so far in advance and being declared to be a Third World War even?
	I mean, I find it fantastic.
	Is it because of vagaries that'll fit so many different situations, or do we actually think is he supposed to have powers of divination, actual capacity?
	Prophecy, the future, which I personally doubt exists in any context.
	First Keith and then John King.
	Well, again, it's like Bill Cooper said, you know, if the Bible is true and the scripture that says these things are written for our foretime, for our instruction, then I would think that, you know, it might behoove you to kind of read into it.
	But I'll say this, though.
	You know, James, if there was a book that had one single page in it that would show us how to live on Earth in peace, all the stuff like that...
	No one would ever open it to read that one page because they'd be bitching about the color of the book, the font used, all this stuff like that, you know?
	And that's our problem here.
	I don't see a Democrat-Republican problem in this country here.
	I see a problem that it's Americans, especially when you look at all those that partook in this so-called COVID thing like that.
	They caused hundreds of thousands of small businesses to shut down and stuff because they went along with that whole thing, you know, instead of fighting back.
	I mean, look at those dancing videos of all these nurse staff and stuff.
	Who choreographed all that?
	You know how many hours it takes to do that, you know?
	I mean, the whole thing was a fraud, and you'd think the American people, especially those that lost loved ones, would be upset that all this is going on.
	I don't know.
	Joe.
	Yeah, here's the title of his book, which was published in 1871, The Morals and Dogma of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry.
	It's 880 pages, and I wouldn't waste my time reading it, but here's what they're doing.
	The Bible is predictive programming, so if you look at Revelations and you look at the Talmud, Then you see where these satanic forces have been guided to do these things.
	And once you have a guide map and you know how to manipulate people through propaganda, you can stage that World War I and World War II and Vietnam and...
	Afghanistan.
	You can state set all these things because you've got control of people's minds from a very basic level where they don't even understand.
	I've got friends of mine are evangelical Christians.
	They frickin' worship Israel.
	They worship Nutty Yahoo.
	And if you say one thing that Trump's done wrong, you're an apostate and they end up hating you.
	I mean, you can't even have a conversation with people you've known for 30 or 40 years because it's like, well...
	You're just evil because you don't think that MAGA absolutely walks on water.
	He's a saint.
	It's absolutely insane the way people have been so programmed that they can't see outside their little boxes.
	Well, again, I can't disagree with Joel there because when you look at how all this stuff goes, in 1996 there was a...
	A report that came out.
	It was called The CIA's Use of Journalism and Clergy.
	And if you read it, I got to like page 50 before I found out that Ted Koppel was the only one who objected about anything.
	But all these people go along with the media.
	Today we have what we call government by journalism.
	And you can see that whether it's in a Senate meeting and it's one of the senators.
	He says, well, I read here on such and such newspaper.
	And even during the North Trials, when they were talking about, well, I read in the Miami Herald about this Rex 84, like that, and continuity of government.
	Oh, we'll speak about that out of chambers, you know.
	But we have government by journalism.
	And that's why your politicians are always citing that.
	That's why when they're up there on a platform, they have a script.
	Like Stephen Miller was noted for Trump's speechwriter.
	But anyway, the point is, all these governments, they're all...
	Like window candy, window dressings for us like that.
	This deep state goes clear back to, like I've mentioned before, Brookings, Council on Formulation, the Atlantic Council.
	These are the ones that make the decisions.
	The World Economic Forum stuff, you know.
	And we're given the dressing like that to give us some of the simulants of what a democracy is.
	And as you mentioned earlier, James, the article there in LA Times says that from 1947 to just to 2000, the United States had overthrown 80 Democratic...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think we all agree with that, John Perkins, confessions of an economic man.
	Joe, you want to talk about these 10 cases, right?
	Please, go right ahead.
	Are you able to show the article or screen share?
	Tell me.
	Me?
	Which article?
	Oh, I thought you were going to talk about the article which is supposed to document 10 cases where Donald Trump was implicated in rapes.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I didn't have that particular article.
	But what I did want to discuss is that the legalized propaganda, when the Congress found out that the creation of the CIA was going to use Operation Mockingbird to lie to overseas governments and overthrow them and use Operation Gladio, they said, they passed a law called Smith-Munt in 1950 that said that the United States government could not propagandize.
	American people.
	And then under Obabi in 2012, they did the Smith-Munt Modernization Act, where they said, no, the government can lie to you about absolutely everything.
	So lying on the part of the government and the news media is absolutely protected speech at this point.
	No, no, that was all done in time for Sandy Hook.
	I mean, yes.
	It was 1948, Smith-Munt Act 1948, Joe.
	The same techniques of propaganda and disinformation that were being used abroad within the United States.
	So he nullified it to allow these phony stage events to be presented in the United States, essentially legalizing scripted, false flag staged events within the United States to be conducted by the government.
	And we got Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, Las Vegas.
	The beat goes on.
	And yes, it was Obama and Eric Holder who were running the shop.
	And I dare say they still have their hand in.
	More you want to add here, Joe?
	Yeah.
	Matter of fact, we also had the same thing under Trump when he did the modernization of vaccinations, which allowed the use of mRNA without having any proof on them.
	So that was something that he signed as an executive order.
	I can put those down in the show notes for anybody that's interested, but I just don't have instant access to every EO that the guy wrote.
	And then in addition to that, he also passed a thing called the right to try.
	And basically, the right to try is, yeah, you've got the right to try.
	Anything that they want to...
	Yeah, this is the article that I wrote on that.
	Can you see this?
	Yeah.
	Right to try voodoo.
	Yeah, the right to try voodoo.
	Because what the right to try does is it says you can be a guinea pig for any pharmaceutical company, but you can only do something that the FDA wants to experiment with.
	And the FDA, the pharmaceuticals, and the doctor that administers these poison pills to you have complete civil and criminal immunity.
	So that's what you sign in when you get the right to try voodoo.
	And I was researching this.
	I remember it being a big topic.
	And this is an article, again, that I wrote at Principia Scientific.
	This was passed in Colorado in 2014.
	The people in Texas said, well, this seems like you should be able to try, you know, orthopedic devices and cures that are working in other countries.
	So let's pass that here.
	Well, it wasn't passed in the Senate in 2015.
	It wasn't passed in 2017.
	It was passed nationally in 2018.
	And then they turned around in 2019 and adopted the national code and turned around and said, we've made you have the rights of a guinea pig.
	pig and that's all you've got it's absolutely insane that this is what we've got for excuse for government and nothing in the way of news media to analyze it and none of the politicians are honest enough to tell you anything that's going on it's absolutely incredible we're about to hit a Hit a break right here.
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	James!
	Can the guests go ahead and continue?
	Yeah, we can talk.
	One of the things I wanted to talk about today was that Maria Farmer said that Ghislaine and Ivanka had been scouting model potentials for a decade.
	Driving around New York and Miami in limousines, passing out cards for modeling lessons and learning how to be a massage therapist.
	And this was in the Daily Beast, October 14, 2019.
	And then it was refuted by the DJT kids in a Threads that was published in 2025.
	But here's the problem.
	Ivana was married to Trump from 1977 to 1990, and she's the mother of Ivanka, Eric, and Don.
	And Don is, Eric is married to Laura Trump, and now Trump is trying to get rid of a Republican rhino in North Carolina named Tom Tillis.
	She was actually born in Wilmington, so he's saying that Laura Trump needs to run for Senate.
	So what he's trying to do is establish this Trump legacy, and he can't have anything that tarnishes that legacy.
	And the problem he's got is that all of the evidence on the Epstein stuff has been collected at the SDNY, which the Southern District of New York is one of the most corrupt jurisdictions in the United States.
	And the woman currently in charge of all the investigations there is Maureen.
	Comey, whose father is James Comey.
	And what Trump needs to do is he needs to do the same thing that Janet Reno did when she was appointed attorney general.
	She fired 93 of the 94 assistant U.S. attorney generals nationwide.
	The only one she didn't fire was Michael Chernoff, who ended up being one of the evil forces behind 9-1-1.
	But once you fired him, then that ended all the investigations of Whitewater, MENA, and the Iran-Contra.
	And that way you got complete control of everything that had been going on in the DOJ, and they already had complete control of everything that was going on in the FBI.
	So that's what we've got.
	We're dealing with this completely compromised legal and justice system, along with the government system, the Department of Defense, and the media.
	So we're up against this enormous force that is aligned completely against us.
	And the way you have...
	An empire is that it's built on piracy, slavery, usury, monopoly, and tyranny, and that's exactly where we are.
	I can't disagree with him.
	I've had so many shows trying to outline this.
	I got on my email there, it says, what you allow your country to do to others, it'll eventually do it to you.
	When you look at right now, the U.S. has sanctions on one-third of the planet.
	That's over 2 billion people.
	Even at Groke 3 says that it can be estimated that millions have starved to death.
	This is where the U.S. acts like a syndicate over in D.C., where it's going to break bones and stuff, put more sanctions on you, make it so you can't sell your oil to support your own civilians like that, let more starve like that, kill more jobs, you know.
	But it is.
	It's a mafia syndicate out of D.C. I don't know how people like to be associated with that, especially when I hear terms like, when we bombed Iraq.
	I didn't bomb Iraq.
	I didn't load the damn planes, didn't fuel them, didn't do any of that stuff.
	Don't try to get me sucked in on your crimes.
	But this is the problem that we're having now.
	They do all this stuff, just like the Sandy Hook there, where you talked about the whole town was bought off, basically.
	When you've got people out there through false patriotism that will go along to get along and say, hey, this will be good.
	We'll get the guns from the Americans.
	Don't they realize in the end what actually transpires?
	No guns, no defense like that.
	You can just see what's coming.
	And people cheer on their own ending.
	Joe?
	Yeah, the false flag that started all of the wars in the 21st century.
	It was 9-1-1.
	And I didn't make any public statement about 9-1-1, even though I knew it was controlled demolition.
	The moment the South Tower leaned upright...
	You don't want to call it 9-1-1.
	That's an emergency phone call.
	Call it 9-11.
	9-11.
	All right, all right, all right.
	Okay.
	Anyhow...
	I knew when the South Tower collapsed that it was controlled demolition, but I didn't know how it happened.
	So I spent about a decade studying this stuff before Veterans Today started publishing a series of articles called Nuclear Education.
	And by 2015, they had published several dozen of those articles.
	I read every one of them in depth.
	And that's when I had my first interview with James Fetzer, which was on March 16, 2015.
	And we talked about nuclear vaporization of the World Trade Center buildings.
	And went on to do additional research.
	We had probably two dozen interviews that we did on YouTube.
	And all of those got removed when he started getting involved in the Sandy Hook stuff.
	They just removed everything that Fetzer had on YouTube.
	Wiped out all of that material.
	So we've been gradually rebuilding it.
	But in 2018, I was contacted by Robert David Steele to be one of 28 authors in a memo to the president.
	And here's the instructions that he gave us.
	I've got two people that are in the cabinet that can get these memos to the president, but the president will not read anything that's more than two pages long, and he won't look at anything that doesn't have a picture.
	So, for my particular article, I wrote a memo.
	Twin Towers Destroyed Using Clean Nukes.
	And I showed him a picture that shows the absolute 100% pyroclastic flow of the buildings pouring out of the center of the buildings and cascading over and coating all of Manhattan with six inches of volcanic dust.
	And this is a really great article.
	But the problem is that we're dealing with somebody that has the attention span of a gnat, is so egotistical and arrogant that he knows absolutely everything.
	He does not allow himself to have more than one intelligence meeting per week.
	Since he took office.
	So he's only had 12 intelligence meetings, and those are stacked with people that have already been backstabbers from previous administrations, just like he did with his first administration.
	He would not have won in 2016 if there wasn't a leak to WikiLeaks.
	And that leak was hacked by Seth Rich, who was murdered and was killed in the emergency room under the supervision of Donna Brazile and had Trump...
	If he pardoned Assange, Assange would have killed the notion that it was Russiagate and avoided two years of snags that Trump got into with the stupid Mueller commission and the impeachment processes.
	He let him do that.
	He's his first enemy.
	Why didn't he pardon Assange?
	I mean, this was like somebody manipulated, probably Pompeo.
	Well, he pardoned someone more important, Jonathan Pollard.
	Yeah, gross.
	Joe, I'm very curious why he did not pardon Assange.
	Because he was propagandized by absolutely everybody in the deep state.
	They didn't want there to be a legitimate election.
	They wanted to question it.
	So it was everybody involved with Hillary Clinton.
	All the 51 people that said you couldn't look at the Hunter laptop because we're ICU So that's how he ended up being...
	Blackmailed out of doing any kind of research, and he still, to this day, he could pardon Assange and say, I'm removing the gag order on you, furnish the rest of the WikiLeaks files that you already have locked away, and we'll know exactly what happened in 2016, and we'll know exactly what Hillary was up to.
	She stole the primary from...
	Bernie Sanders, they stole the primary from Bernie Sanders again in 2020, even though he was a terrible candidate, and then they stole the general election in 2020 from Trump.
	Irrefutable that that's what happened.
	So bottom line is, he's too far compromised and too egotistical to admit how bad the system really is, and he's incapable of understanding it, so he's incapable of solving the problem.
	That's pretty upsetting.
	Keith, I would like to argue that splitting with Bibi, even if it's for the wrong reasons, is a giant step in the right direction, assuming it's authentic.
	And at this point in time, I believe that it is.
	Keith, your thoughts?
	Well, I'm...
	I still believe that Ukraine is linked to this because of that leaked report that the Jews or Khazars in reverse immigration or migration plan back to Ukraine.
	This is where I think Plan B is there, that, like Kissinger said over 10 years ago, that Israel would cease to exist.
	But I think they're going to fight this right to the end and then vacate.
	And, of course, that's why they, through the pale of settlement, Which is the old Kazarian Empire, linked with the Soviet Republic of Bavaria, of course.
	But anyway, this is where the majority of all the Jews come from, like Helen Thomas is.
	Go back to Europe, to Poland, to Ukraine, you know.
	This is where they reside.
	And they've taken that over there.
	But sadly, my biggest fear is that...
	I forget who said it, but...
	It may have been Colonel Wilkerson that the U.S. would have plausible deniability if they're separating themselves from Bibi right now.
	And then Bibi goes over there and drops nukes on Iran and stuff.
	And then, of course, the United States would say, hey, look, we had nothing to do with it.
	But these globalists have been for years.
	And this goes way back to William Cooper.
	It says that Israel would be sacrificed.
	For this greater agenda like that.
	And like I say, when you look at the Hannibal Directive and stuff like that, they have no problem killing each other and stuff like that.
	So I don't know.
	But yeah, for us in the outside world, think, well, hey, this would be better.
	But again, if there's some calamity over there or a false flag, how fast will the U.S. respond?
	And that shows you exactly where we're back at again.
	Joe...
	Keith offered the interesting suggestion that the split could be contrived in order to allow Israel to attack Iran separately and even nuke Iran, while the United States purportedly has clean hands, and then there'd be some kind of reconciliation.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, well, they've got a big problem because there's 90 million people in Egypt that are real upset about what's going on.
	There's 13 million in Jordan.
	There's whatever's remaining in Syria.
	There's Lebanon.
	And so he's going to have to pull the Samson option.
	We already know that they stole the technology and the uranium to be able to build at least 200.
	...as 300 nuclear bombs, and they've got the capability of delivering those to some of their neighbors, but they don't have the ICBM capability to deliver them to Iran, so that means that they'd have to have some kind of support network.
	The range on the fighter jets that they have is too limited to be able to do strikes directly on Iran using fighter jets without having refueling.
	And then those things would be obvious to the radar systems that Iran has, which are comparable to the S-400, which Pakistan and India have just proven have muted every fighter jet that we've got.
	India and Pakistan both had F-16s.
	The United States ordered Pakistan to not fly any additional F-16s because the Indians shot one down and then the Pakistan...
	And so now India said, we're not buying any more of these M-I-C-K-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E trinkets because they're completely ineffective.
	We're going to buy Chinese jets and Chinese and Russian missile defense systems because those systems work.
	So now we got the MiG and a real problem where they can't do their no-bid, cost-plus.
	Secret programs where they end up bilking the taxpayers for 50% more than the value of whatever weapons systems they're producing.
	This is really fascinating.
	We got this actual combat situation between two nuclear-armed nations, and it's turning out the American-made weaponry.
	Is inadequate compared to the Russian and Chinese.
	So you're telling me both India and Pakistan are going to go Chinese-Russian?
	So it'll be an equal standoff in terms of quality of weaponry?
	Well, look at the three years we've had in Ukraine.
	The Russians have been able to outsmart every particular weapon system we've sent them.
	So every tank, every missile, every airplane that we've sent over to Ukraine has been easily defeated within two to three months by the Russian military.
	And so bottom line is the whole world's watching, and it's like we no longer have this supremacy that we've...
	Postulated on ever since the end of World War II that we are the sole superpower because now none of our toys work.
	There was a great report by one of the guys who said that our U.S. aircraft carriers are $13 billion pinatas with $8 billion worth of hyper-flying targets.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think that's right in terms of modern warfare.
	It's all missiles.
	Thrones and aircraft carriers and fixed-wing aircraft are obsolete, Keith, your thought.
	Yeah, I did want to add something to what Joel was saying there, the fact that I believe that, like, these loyalists, you know, my country, right or wrong, like the young Hebrew boy in the Senate there that's offering his...
	Apparently tight rear end up to somewhere.
	But anyway, I believe that there's loyalists.
	If Israel doesn't have the capacity like that, that they would find someone in the military, U.S. military, to do the dirty deed and just take a hit for their country.
	We have enough of them that are that way.
	Go through a real quick summary of some of the things that people don't understand.
	The B-1B Lancer bomber has a speed of 950 miles per hour.
	That's Mach 1.2.
	But it can't cruise at that speed because it burns too much fuel and it overheats the surface of the plane.
	So its cruise is actually 647 miles per hour.
	At cruise speed, it has a 7,400-mile range.
	We bought 200 of those at $100 million apiece.
	We only have 45 currently active.
	The B-2, which is our stealth bomber, well, it has a top speed of 628 miles per hour, but cruise speed is 560, which is certainly less than Mach.
	Northbrook produced this thing, and they were introduced to the fleet in 1997.
	They've got a 7,000-mile range.
	These things that were $2 billion apiece that we funded, two of them crashed on their own, so we've got 18 of them total.
	They're in air-conditioned hangars in Missouri because if they're subject to temperature changes and ultraviolet light, the radar coatings on the outside of them degrade and the things become completely useless.
	They have to be completely redone.
	They have no hardpoints for putting air-to-air defense missiles on them, so they have absolutely no capability.
	A stealth aircraft is that they're only stealth in certain frequencies.
	You can use other frequencies of radar where they're not stealth.
	You can use other frequencies where the radar absorbing material, they've had enough shot.
	No, shit.
	They're only stealthy in certain frequencies.
	Joe, that's amazing.
	Don't think of the fraud.
	It was a marketing gimmick.
	And now the Chinese and the Russians both have over-the-horizon microwave radar, which is capable of picking these things up, and there's no way to hide your infrared trail from the spy satellites that there's thousands of above the planet.
	So this whole thing about stealth is absolutely ridiculous.
	We've got the most preposterous DoD imaginable with the greatest advertising budget and the...
	Kickbacks to congressmen that'll keep promoting this stuff because they spread the work out between various jurisdictions so that every congressman say, "I brought you some defense jobs." Well, that's all we got left in the way of the hollowed-out economy in America.
	The Pentagon admin is nothing but a PR firm for Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics.
	My God!
	Isn't it just horrific?
	Well, you can understand why, in the American way, making money is what counts, and you get inferior products at high cost, but where they need maintenance, so they double or triple their profits by virtue of having to maintain, which they develop deliberately with defects.
	Versus in Russia, they don't have this profit thing.
	They want to defend the motherland, the homeland.
	So they put out weapons that actually work, that are bona fidely effective, that don't require extended maintenance contracts, and they do it for a fraction of the cost.
	I mean, no wonder we don't have a chance against Russia.
	Joe?
	Oh, yeah.
	And one of the guys that I follow is a historian that's got a great website channel, Mark Felton, F-E-L-T-O-N.
	He had a great post that he put up about a month ago.
	Rented missiles and worn-out submarines, the shocking state of the UK nuclear deterrent.
	UK only has four submarines.
	They're all leftover US submarines.
	They're all at the point of being completely worn out.
	You can never put more than...
	One of them out to sea at a particular time because it requires too much retrofit and maintenance on the three that are remaining.
	So three of them are always in port.
	One of them's out supposedly protecting the UK, but they rent their missiles from us and none of their nuclear warheads are effective unless they're authorized by United States launch codes.
	So absolutely 100% ridiculous what we've got in the way of a...
	Quote, NATO defense.
	And here's Britain over there rattling their saber like they can march out and save the frickin' world.
	They're absolute shambles.
	I've been to England six different times, two weeks each time.
	I've toured the country from Dover to Bath and Warwick to White.
	And it's a beautiful, historic country, but it's full of morons.
	And their government is absolutely evil beyond imagination.
	You can't walk down the street without a half dozen CCTV cameras watching you.
	You can't drive around a curb without there being a speed camera.
	They have congestive travel requirements inside London where they've got a postage card stamped sign on it.
	And if you pass that, you get a 150-pound fine for driving inside the zone.
	I was driving around with my girlfriend one day, and I saw this police van with a big hula hoop on the top of it.
	And the hula hoop kept just turning slowly back and forth.
	I know what that is.
	That's a directional antenna.
	I said, what are they doing?
	She goes, oh, they're looking for people that aren't paying their BBC licensing fee.
	24 hours a day on four channels of propaganda, and it's 150 pounds a year to get your licensing fee to have propaganda pumped into your house, and that's the only news you get.
	Absolutely insane.
	Bitchute is banned in UK.
	I was supposed to do an interview last week with a woman who's a professor in UK.
	And first of all, she said, well, I can't read any of the things or see any of the material you sent me that's on BitChute because it's totally banned in the UK.
	And the next thing was, and this was a shock to me, she said, well, we're not using Skype anymore.
	We're using, let's see, what is the replacement for Skype?
	Teams.
	What?
	It's called Teams.
	Yeah, Teams.
	And it's on...
	Microsoft.
	Yeah, it's owned by Microsoft.
	So I went to the team site to download the app so that I could do what we're doing right now on Zoom, and it required an iOS 16.0, and my iPhone 8 won't go any higher than 15.8.
	So I can't load the program without going and buying a new iPhone.
	This is how this particular system works.
	They get you on the treadmill, and then they constantly...
	Turn your Windows operating systems into bricks.
	They turn your iPhones into useless bricks.
	They keep forcing you to buy more and more of this overpriced digital data just to be able to maintain some kind of presence in public.
	It's crazy.
	Wow.
	Yeah, Joel and I should get together for some Jack Daniels.
	Anyway, when Joel was giving off the specs of the airplanes, I thought, do they come covered with condoms?
	Because whoever buys these things, I mean, you're getting screwed.
	And it's like right now, I see what they're doing right now.
	They're getting rid of all their old equipment like that.
	Then Trump is talking about a trillion dollars for the military.
	He started building all this brand new stuff like that.
	Meanwhile, you look at the hundreds of thousands of Americans that are sleeping on the streets, that are homeless, the credit card debt, nothing's going to America.
	And as you and I spoke before there about that Mandate Project 2025, everything is being subsidized by the United States government.
	Keep the corporations going.
	And B-52s fly at 650 miles per hour.
	It's 6,000 miles from Diego Garcia.
	To Iran.
	And so there's no way you can make the round trip, round trip.
	There's no way you can make that without refueling on both of these planes.
	And with planes that are flying subsonic, they're going to be visible when they take off.
	They're going to be visible to any kind of ships that are out supposedly fishing boats or whatever that are out in the Indian Ocean.
	And so you're not going to make any stealth attacks anywhere in the Middle East.
	But Diego Garcia, to even postulate that and use that as a war planning is absolutely absurd.
	I hope there's somebody in the Pentagon that takes time to listen to what we're talking about because nobody else is talking about it in this level of depth.
	And realize that this is wargaming of the worst extent.
	We have absolutely no ability to protect our power in that particular region to protect this parasite colony that's been forced on the Middle East.
	Keith, some comments before we hit the break?
	Yeah, if you read the Trail of Tears back in the 1830s, it was kind of the plight of the North American Indians there that were being let out, just like we're seeing over in Palestine.
	And I think that's what the problem is, that Americans can't face their own history, so that's why they just let Israel do what they want.
	Wow, that's a disturbing thought.
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	Even the government admits that 9 /11 was a conspiracy.
	But did you know that it was an inside job and Osama had nothing to do with it?
	That the Twin Towers were blown apart by a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro noobs.
	That Building 7 collapsed seven hours later because of explosives planted in the building.
	Barry Jennings was there.
	He heard them go off and felt himself stepping over dead people.
	A U.S. Geological Survey conducted studies of dust gathered from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Ironically, that means the government's own evidence contradicts the government's official position.
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	And while we're waiting for the host, I decided after we wrote the memo to the president, I decided in July of 2019, I was going to be a guest on Coast to Coast AM radio, which I've been a guest on total now five different times, two hours each time.
	I decided that I would explain some of what happened on 9-1-1.
	So I wrote an article called Unequivocal 9-1-1.
	I'm not sure if you can see that on the screen.
	Not on my small screen.
	What was the title of it again?
	Let me see if I can get my camera.
	Matt, it's showing my camera's on.
	So, I don't know.
	Jim likes to hog the screen.
	He thinks he's better looking.
	Yeah.
	Unequipped.
	You guys are always there.
	You guys are always there.
	You just aren't seeing yourselves.
	That's all.
	Yeah, it's not flipping.
	Yeah, on the bottom it's not flipping.
	Yeah, unequivocal 9-11 nukes.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And this is an article that I wrote.
	I met Richard Gage at the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth meeting in May of 2009 in Austin with Alex Jones.
	It was a four-hour-long press conference.
	I got there an hour early.
	I studied absolutely everything that they presented at that point.
	I knew that it wasn't thermite, so I was real skeptical about what Gage was up to.
	Here's the thing about architects.
	Architects do not design buildings.
	They are the marketing division of developers.
	And developers have architects draw renderings and do color boards and do the presentations.
	But if you don't have a good civil engineer, your site plan's going to be crap.
	If you don't have a good structural, mechanical, and electrical engineering, your building's going to be crap.
	We're going to get to that in just a second.
	So after I published my article at Veterans Today on Unequivocal 911 Nukes, one of my readers contacted me and said, you need to read...
	9-11.
	9-11.
	You need to read...
	This was put together by four PhD physicists in Europe.
	I sent it to Gordon Duff.
	He said, my God, these guys have proven everything that we've been saying in our 80 articles at Veterans Today, and I've read all 80 of those articles.
	So they published that.
	The problem was these guys didn't understand a whole lot about construction, and they also didn't understand nuclear isotopes.
	I wrote an additional article, unequivocal 911 nukes.
	9-11, Joe!
	It's probably going to be impossible to break you of the hat.
	It's going to be impossible.
	I'm going to cease.
	Okay, good.
	So anyhow, this, the solving 9-11 Palmer report has 45 PowerPoint slides.
	Did I say it again?
	Yeah, you got it right.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I might be able to break up that habits.
	Anyhow, they have 45 PowerPoint slides, and this shows the granite bedrock that's underneath the Twin Towers with the 40 feet of glacial till that was on top of the granite bedrock.
	But here's the part that's really amazing.
	Slides 46-43 shows the crater that was left underneath the building.
	Because of the nuclear bomb melting a hole in the granite bedrock.
	Now, I studied the geology of Manhattan before I ever made any presentations about that.
	You got 1,000 feet of granite, but adjacent to it, you have a basalt layer.
	And when the glaciers were 1,000 foot thick over Manhattan, they started melting, and the basalt...
	Eroded faster than the granite, so that's where the Hudson River is a straight line going north and south because the glaciers were melting and eating the basalt, but they were just dropping crud on top of the granite.
	So after they ended up clearing out the hole at 9-1-1...
	And you can see from these pictures, there's a three-story track hoe sitting on top of a 100-foot hole.
	So they went, oh my God, we can't explain how this hole ended up underneath the foundation of the buildings.
	And so they said, well, we got a geologist and he says, oh, those are just glacial melt holes and those are pretty common underneath glaciers and it's only 40 feet deep.
	Well, first of all, it's 100 feet deep.
	And second of all, no...
	A respectable engineer would allow you to build that amount of building weight on top of something that was unstable, and they cleared it all the way down to the granite so there was no hole when they built the building.
	But here's two absolute proofs of that.
	161 Maiden Lane, which is also called 1C Port.
	This is a 58-story condo where they convinced the developers that they didn't have to go down to bedrock.
	They could just set their footings into the clays, and it would be stabilized, and they'd save a whole lot of money.
	That tower is currently leaning three inches, but an even worse example is the Millennium Tower in San Francisco.
	This is a 58-story condo.
	It's sunk 16 inches, and it's leaning 29 inches.
	It's an enormous disaster in the middle of San Francisco, and the lean is increasing 3 inches every year.
	So that's what happens when you get a crappy structural engineer designing your buildings for you.
	I've got to announce the number 608-957-8727.
	608-957-8727.
	Go ahead, Joe.
	On 9 /11.
	9 /11, okay.
	And New York is laced with tunnels for subway systems, utilities, vertical shafts that go down for...
	Soils testing and bedrock testing.
	I know how you build buildings.
	I've read hundreds of soils reports in my 50 years as a trained structural engineer and civil engineer where those kinds of things are very important.
	And so I understood exactly what was going on.
	And there's absolutely no way that these holes were caused by anything other than the nuclear vaporization of the material underneath the building.
	Keith, any comments you want to make?
	Joe's all over this.
	Oh, yeah, I understand that.
	What I appreciate is those people that looked into this.
	I don't know if you've seen the...
	I mentioned earlier about Senator Johnson saying that they're destroying all the COVID stuff.
	However, he's also questioning all this 9-11 stuff.
	Yeah.
	In his interview, he said there's probably not any honest civil engineers in the United States that can explain this stuff.
	Mr. Johnson, I know one honest engineer, and I've talked to hundreds of engineers since 9-11, and they won't argue with me.
	They'll just go, well, I don't want to believe that.
	Well, if you don't want to believe the truth, that's your own.
	Right, right, right.
	You can't pick and choose what you believe.
	Again, the caller number is 608-957-8727.
	I actually got a caller on my cell phone, but that's not the number to join the conversation.
	Joe, the Palmer Report is sensational, and those diagrams, those diagrams are phenomenal.
	And I did a two-hour interview with Boston911truth.org.
	On February 20th, 2025, and I explained absolutely all of this stuff.
	I attended two additional A&E Truth meetings in Houston and then a three-hour one in Austin, and I had dinner twice or three times with Richard Gage.
	I interviewed him with Fetzer.
	And then I interviewed him again as host on TNT Radio for 90 minutes.
	I was very polite to the guy, but I'm sorry.
	He's misguided, and apparently he's got some kind of situation where he's compromised.
	I can get the callers in without cutting us off.
	Caller, I'm sorry.
	I can't figure out how to bring you in.
	Go right ahead, Joe.
	Go right ahead.
	I mean, I'd lost us when I brought him in.
	The old way, he had a way of adding to the conversation, but this preempts these broadcasts.
	Go right ahead, Joe.
	Well, if they could text you a question, I'd be glad to address it.
	But here's the thing.
	Not only are architects not required to have any science or math requirements, Gage never took a chemistry class, a physics class, a structural engineering class, and he certainly knows nothing about nuclear vaporization.
	And according to Mark Hightower, who has a master's degree in chemical engineering, and that's who I relied on when I quoted stuff in my unequivocal 9-1-1 nukes article, 9-11, thermite is non-explosive.
	It is actually...
	An incendiary.
	And the way to destroy a building is by exceeding the detonation velocity of the material that you're working in.
	And for steel, the detonation velocity is 6,100 meters per second.
	For concrete, it's 3,200 meters per second.
	And the highest measured amount of detonation velocity of thermite is 800 meters per second.
	95 meters per second.
	They can't get there from there.
	See, Mark Hightower and I published three articles in 2011 debunking the nanothermite hypothesis.
	And to the best of my knowledge, Gage and his colleagues have never even acknowledged the facts of the matter that nanothermite is non-explosive.
	It does generate high temperatures.
	But it can't have been responsible for the destruction of the Twin Towers.
	Peel melts at 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit, but it vaporizes at 5,180 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Thermite burns at 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit, but it requires a 3,000 degree Fahrenheit magnesium.
	Fuse in order to light.
	And the possibility of planting thousands of those in each one of those buildings and having all of them going off simultaneously in perfect order without any of them being ineffective because of the joining ones blowing them out or whatever is improbable.
	The title of one of our articles is 9-11 Truth Based Upon a False Theory.
	When they would, you know, when nanothermite was all in vogue, and that's where Steve Jones and I had our departure, you know, by the time of June of 2006, after I founded Scholars in December of 2005, at the American Scholars Conference orchestrated by Alex Jones, I met him in the lobby Saturday, and I said, Steve, do you still think nanothermite can do all these things, you know?
	Blowing apart the buildings and always said, oh yes, oh yes, of course it can.
	And I recognize already that was ridiculous.
	Ridiculous.
	And he happens to be an expert in low-level nuclear processes, Joe.
	You think he doesn't know the real score?
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	They planted probably a 200 pound, one kiloton bomb in elevator number 50. They blew out the elevator shafts to give them a continuous opening through the core of the building.
	They did what's called a...
	A plasma bunker buster bomb.
	And here's how they managed to disguise the nuclear signature.
	When you're sending gamma rays up through the center of the building, first of all, you send a shock wave that exceeds the detonation velocity, so you crumble the whole inside of the building.
	So all of this interior columns and all of the concrete that was on the interior floors...
	Are all blown out because of the blast that comes up.
	Then you've got a heat wave that comes up.
	That causes a vaporization that causes the volcanic flow out of the top of the building.
	But then you have the building materials themselves working to absorb the gamma rays to reduce your nuclear signature.
	And so they casually mentioned in the Palmer report that...
	Steel has four stable isotopes.
	And I've been studying the nuclear education articles at Veterans Today, and I said, well, wait a minute.
	How many radioactive does it have?
	Oh, 24. What are the other elements that are in a concrete and steel building?
	Well, you have carbon with iron to make steel, and then you also have carbon, calcium, and silicon to make concrete.
	Well, carbon has two stable, 13 radioactive.
	Calcium has 5 stable, 21 radioactive.
	Silicon has 3 stable, 20 radioactive.
	And so that gives you 95 available isotopes that will all be radioactive that will be sitting there decomposing on the site and make it 2,500 degrees hot from 9-11 all the way up to December.
	So you had 2,500 degrees hot.
	That is so important, Joe, because that's what refutes the directed energy hypothesis.
	It cannot account for the extended period of molten metal beneath the surface for months.
	And the 3,000 bodies, they were never able to find anything other than teeth and bone fragments the size of BBs on adjoining buildings all around the World Trade Center.
	And they were able to DNA identify of supposedly 1,500 victims.
	And here's your envelope with your loved one's teeth and bone fragments.
	They never identified.
	They never could find any evidence of.
	So how did you do that with directed energy or thermite?
	The whole thing's crazy.
	It's two completely false narratives that they sit there and try to dignify and keep you from realizing the real enemy that stole our nuclear material in the 1950s and has the Samson option against all enemies on the planet and the United States is an enemy of the Zacarian Mafia.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Keith.
	Well, I'm enjoying this because it reminds me that one night my friend and I was sitting there on Telegram.
	We were talking about the...
	Van Allen radiation belt, and they said that it's 4,000 degrees in there.
	And so we were sitting there typing back and forth what the melting temperature of steel was, aluminum, glass, all this stuff.
	It says it's impossible that they could do any of that stuff.
	The spacecraft would have melted!
	Yes.
	Oh, and then there's that on NASA's website, there's this picture of the Apollo 13, I think it is, and it shows this little air tank.
	And so I posted a photo back to my friend there.
	This is an air tank that a scuba diver has that lasts one hour, and you're supposed to believe that these guys went three days one way and three days the other.
	9-11 stuff has always been intriguing, but it shows you that whether or not it was a full inside job or not, but there are some people, like I say, that my country,
	right or wrong, that they would even betray their own country To facilitate an agenda somewhere else in which, I don't know if I told you this before, but when I had Colonel Wilkerson on, now recently we've had Jeffrey Sachs say that the 2003 Gulf War was all BB's idea.
	But anyway, I had Wilkerson on, and I listed a million Iraqi deaths.
	He says, yeah, I heard it's about that.
	And I says, do you know how many American soldiers died?
	He says, yeah, it's about 5,000 KIA.
	I said, that's good.
	And I said, Right here before me there, Colonel Wilkerson, I have a FOIA that shows that 74,000 U.S. soldiers died.
	And then add the 60,000 suicides, and then add the 307,000 veterans that died waiting for health care at the VA.
	I said, this is all over Beebe's lie.
	And about three hours later, I got an email back from Mr. Wilkerson there, and he very, very somber, not realizing the extent of what happened during that war.
	And it's just like Colonel Doug McGregor, you know, he's a tank commander in the same war.
	And it's all based on lies.
	And here's an additional thing that escapes Mr. Gage's brilliant mind.
	Thermite is not a catalyst.
	Any thermite that you find in the dust was not part of the original explosion because it's a reactant and it breaks down.
	It is actually Fe2O3Al2.
	The exterior of the building of both Twin Towers had 2,200 tons of aluminum sheeting on the outside of the building.
	The aluminum has a galvanic reaction with the steel.
	Plate girders that were inside the exterior of the building.
	And so it...
	It forms an oxide of aluminum and steel between those two surfaces.
	When you vaporize those particular materials, then you have little iron sphericals floating around, you have aluminum sphericals floating around, and oxygen in the air, and they're going to form nanothermite on their own that will flocculate out in the dust around the World Trade Center building.
	And according to their own documents, Debunking 9-1-1, I don't remember the exact title of the A&E pamphlet, but it says that it takes 0.13 pounds of thermite to melt one pound of steel.
	So if you've got 100,000 pounds of steel that were melted, how many tons of...
	Thermite does it take?
	You just do the 100,000 tons times 0.13, 13,000 tons of thermite per building.
	Tell me again how you did this, Mr. Gage.
	I got a question, Joel.
	Yes.
	What projected the beams outward?
	That's an interesting little question, and I've got your answer.
	This is according to FEMA.
	403, figure 216.
	The exterior of the building was built with what's known as a Vander Reel truss system.
	This is horizontal bands of 52-inch high, 2-inch thick plate steel that are welded top and bottom cords to every floor, and then they're connected to 16-inch square box columns that are 40 inches on center going vertically.
	They were built in three-story segments, the exterior wall panels, at shipyards across the Hudson, brought over and swung in with a crane.
	And you can see that there's two full panels that are missing on the side of the building.
	And those are not normal failure planes because they're in-bolted, they're splice-bolted along the spandrel section, and then they're connected, like I said, to the bar joists.
	And so it would be virtually impossible for you to have two full segments out of the side of the building.
	Interviews that we did that was deleted on YouTube was a guy named Steve Dieck.
	And he said, here's photos of those two panels that were blown out of the building laying on the ground.
	And you can see where they were deformed by the shape charges.
	So what happened is when the gelatin group was in there, they used plasma cutters.
	They cut out all the bar joist connections.
	The hairpin shear ties that were in the 6-inch thick concrete slab that were in there, they cut out the splice bolts on each one of the spandrel sections, and they cut out the end bolts so that they could plant shape charges and blow those two holes out of the side of the building, and then they hit the building with something because if you look at the...
	FEMA diagram that's on the same page with that one.
	We're talking about creating the impression, the false impression of a plane having actually hit the building.
	Go ahead, Joe.
	Right.
	And you can see that it's diverted to the side where you had side impact in this particular photo.
	And this is an actual photo of one of the buildings.
	And so doing a little bit further research from my previous presentation on Boston 911, I did a little bit of research on 767 tires.
	Those are H48x18 tires that are 32-ply rubber, and they weigh 500 pounds apiece.
	They're on a 100-pound...
	Wheel assembly.
	There's four tires on each of the four boogies that are on the main landing gear.
	So that's 16 tires and then two of them the same size on the front gear.
	So you have 18 tires that are virtually indestructible at four different crash sites and there's not a single tire.
	There's not a single 13-foot diameter jet engine.
	There's not a single piece of luggage or a suitcase or a body at any of the four crash sites.
	So you tell me again how you did that with box cutters.
	The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous.
	Wonderful, Joe.
	Wonderful, wonderful case.
	I always said that you can't tell me that there wasn't a Texan or a Montanan on one of those planes for the alleged box cutters that could run down a plane's alley like that and do a flying dropkick on someone, you know?
	Oh, I said, when I did my, during the C-SPAN-covered panel discussion...
	On Sunday morning, which ran an hour and 45, I did the top 10 reason we knew the hijackers were fake.
	And I said, the passenger would have beaten them to death with their luggage!
	I mean, it's just absurd!
	And one of the guys that...
	That's a professed expert on this, Ryan Dawson, said there had to be hijacked airplanes, otherwise you can't implicate Saudi Arabia.
	So there you go.
	We've got to have this extra smokescreen so we can make it anybody except the people with the little hats.
	Yeah.
	With the little hats.
	Hey, you heard about Ryan Dawson, didn't you?
	He's going blind?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I forget the name of it, but his one eye is gone already and he's starting to lose vision, his last eye.
	I wonder if he's been poisoned or something.
	What if he took the jab?
	I don't think.
	Well, he may have to fly back and forth from Japan or wherever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, probably did.
	Yeah.
	One of the known side effects.
	Yeah.
	And you mentioned about NASA.
	I didn't want to cover NASA because I'm from Houston and I wanted to believe the hypocrisy, but I've had doubts all along.
	And then so finally...
	Fetzer wrote a book.
	We didn't land on the moon either.
	And so I thought, well, you know, I'll do an honor to Fetzer.
	I'll see if I can find something that indicates that there's a problem with the space Apollo landings.
	So I wrote an article called Perplexing Apollo Questions.
	And this is using actual Saturn V schematics off of the NASA website.
	And here's what they say.
	Stage one.
	The second stage held 512,000 gallons of fuel which carried the upper stages from Cape Kennedy to 42 mile altitude with a speed of 5,300 miles per hour.
	The second stage held 340,000 gallons of fuel and lifted the final stages to 115 miles with a speed of 15,300 miles per hour.
	Well, guess what?
	The exit velocity for Earth's gravity is 24,500.
	So they didn't even reach exit velocity.
	The Earth only held 89,000 gallons of fuel.
	What's the thrust on them?
	Yeah.
	In order for Musk to do his round trip, Starship, to the moon, he's going to pre-position eight loads of 1,200 tons apiece.
	150 tons apiece of fuel at weigh stations between Earth and the moon so he can refuel so that he's got enough fuel to make it to the moon and not crash into the moon.
	Get off the moon, get out of moon's grave, and then have enough fuel to have retro rockets to keep him from overshooting Earth at 200,000 miles per hour, which you cannot do the other way.
	Yeah, how absurd.
	I got one for you, Jim.
	I'm sure we've all shot guns and stuff.
	If you've ever shot a pop can or something like that, but you're supposed to believe that some spacecraft is traveling at 17,000 miles an hour, and one little small meteorite about the size of a pea would hit that thing.
	It would blow that entire thing up.
	That's how fictitious all this space travel is.
	Yeah, no, we didn't go, yeah.
	I mean, the title he's talking about was suggested by my co-editor, Mike Palachek, after we published Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
	One might respond, yeah, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
	Joey, you did great work, my friend.
	I'm just absolutely delighted.
	I just want you to master that linguistic trick.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I've got to put 11 in my mind.
	I've got a website, Slaying Fake Science, which has about a half dozen interviews, but it's got up to 200 articles that I've written covering all kinds of things.
	Global warming, green energy, peak oil, big bang.
	And it's a pretty interesting website.
	So if you're curious about history or science, you might want to visit there.
	You know, Joe, until you mention it now, I didn't know they wiped out all my videos after Sandy Hook.
	I mean, I'm shocked!
	How grotesque is that?
	Jesus Christ.
	And I've done a staggering number.
	I mean, this is just awful.
	I know.
	I know.
	Yeah, look at England right now and what Joel mentioned earlier.
	Right now they tell these boys in the military they're out there fighting for their freedoms and democracy.
	And one of the guys that was interviewed on Boston 9-11 was a guy named Gary who is from Scotland and he says, This is really odd.
	He says, I'm in a small town in Scotland, and we had five military burials in the last week.
	And he said none of them were official military burials.
	They were not announced in any of the newspapers.
	He said the only way I heard about it was by word of mouth.
	And he said it typically, like when we got in the war in Falklands and there was a local boy that was killed, they had military parades and they had official military burials.
	None of these five...
	Soldiers that were killed in Ukraine were given any kind of official recognition by the UK government.
	That's how subversive the entire government is in the UK.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me say I'm not hearing the recording, you know, the closing, but we are out of time.
	Wonderful job, Keith.
	Joe, I'm just ecstatic.
	Everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about because we do not know how much time we have left.

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