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The Raw Deal (9 May 2025)

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	I need somebody, not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I was young, so much younger than today.
	I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	I know now these days are gone and I'm not so self-assured.
	I know I'm fine in the chamber of mine.
	I know I'm nothing.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	I'm getting my feet back on the road.
	I'm getting my feet back on the road.
	Well, welcome to The Raw Deal.
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host, right here on Studio B on Revolution Radio, where I'm joined today, or will be shortly, by co-host Paul from California, where Brian will be sobbing when Paul can't make it.
	Brian is a private investigator, has so many commitments professionally, and it seemed really advisable to not...
	Impinge upon his commitment professionally to bring Paul in, where Paul has proven very popular and will be joining shortly.
	Meanwhile, India-Pakistan heating up.
	We have 125 jets clashing in one of the largest dogfights in recent history.
	This is pretty...
	Fascinating stuff.
	Some 125 Indian and Pakistani jet fighter battled for over an hour, one of the biggest dogfights in recent history coursing to Pakistani security sources quoted by CNN.
	If the numbers are confirmed, it would be one of the greatest air battles since World War II.
	Newsweek has reached out to both Indian and Pakistani governments for a comment.
	The scale of the dogfight underscores the intensity of the conflict between the two nuclear-armed rivals, both of whom possess some of the world's largest conventional military forces, highlighting the implications of any further escalation, should diplomatic efforts fail to ease tensions, interrupted after an attack on tourists in Indian-administered Kashmir, my opinion, That was a false flag attack.
	Pakistan did not have anything to do with it.
	The dogfight, which Pakistani officials had downed five Indian planes, was one of the largest and longest in recent aviation history.
	A Pakistani claim has not been corroborated.
	It couldn't be immediately verified by Newsweek in its report.
	A total of a hundred and twenty-five jets engaged in an hour-long aerial battle.
	Both sides confirmed to their own airspace, as long-range missiles were exchanged at distances surpassing a hundred miles.
	Well, that's pretty damn interesting.
	Distances surpassing a hundred miles.
	More coming, too.
	Pakistan Chinese-made jet has brought down two Indian fighters.
	This, I believe, we have here a separate report here.
	U.S. officials.
	A Chinese-made Pakistani fighter plane shot down two Indian military aircraft Wednesday.
	Two U.S. officials told Reuters, marking a major milestone for Beijing's advanced fighter jet.
	Which is apparently very, very good.
	The performance of a leading Chinese jet against a Western rival being closely watched in Washington for insights as to how Beijing might fare in any showdown over Taiwan or the wider Indo-Pacific.
	Not good for us.
	One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was high confidence Pakistan had used a Chinese-made J-10 aircraft to launch air-to-air missiles against Indian fighter jets, bringing down at least two.
	Another said at least one jet shot down was a French-made Rafale fighter aircraft.
	Both said Pakistan's F-16, made by Lockheed Martin, were not used in the shoot-down.
	Well, interesting.
	Here we have also India has launched at least 25 Israeli-made drones in Pakistan.
	Military downs them.
	We're learning more and more how to deal with drones.
	India has been using Israeli-made Harrop drones to target Pakistan.
	One drone hitting a military target near the eastern city of Lahore, wounding Soldiers causing destruction in the area.
	Pakistan's military shot down at least 25 Indian drones across the country on Thursday.
	This is following that huge dogfight on Wednesday.
	In a statement, the military added, The brief Israeli-made Heret drones is being recovered from various areas across Pakistan.
	The newspaper Dawn Reported that the Herop drone is a loitering munition system developed by the Israeli Aerospace Industry MBT Missile Division.
	It added the drone is designed to hover over battlefields and attack based upon its operator's command.
	Here's more.
	Pakistan shoots down an Israeli-made drones launched by India.
	This is from Middle East I. Indian sources confirm at least one drone has been down, while Pakistan puts a figure at 25. Quite a glaring discrepancy there.
	Pakistan shot down Israeli-made drones launched by India into airspace Thursday, following a series of Indian strikes across the country Wednesday.
	Pakistan's military said it had shot down 25 Israeli Arab drones Thursday.
	Including Karachi and Lahore.
	An Indian government source confirmed at least one drone had been down.
	Both sides view the military claims by the other as propaganda.
	The Indian source told Middle East Eye that drones were made in Israel and supplied to the Indian military by the Adani Group, a multinational company founded by Indian billionaire Gautam Adani.
	Who has been close to India, Prime Minister Modi, for decades.
	The Adami Group shares a production line with Israeli military company Ilbit, from which India provided Israel with Hermes Goudron's after the start of the war in Gaza.
	So, India and Israel are tight.
	Pakistan and China are tight.
	I think...
	We can anticipate a whole lot more here in the future, and it's likely to be very serious indeed.
	Meanwhile, we have Ukraine's performance ratifying the mineral deal, which is supposed to ensure U.S. support for For Ukraine,
	by virtue of this mineral deal, frankly, I'm just astonished that Trump is doing these things because it puts the U.S. right in the middle of it all.
	Here we have, and even more important in the general scheme of things, Al Jazeera reporting.
	China's Xi vows to stand with Fred Putin against hegemonic bullying.
	Gee, who do you think would be doing that bullying?
	Who's the bully on the block?
	Who's the big thug in international relations?
	Donald J. Trump, Chinese leader, the highest-profile guest at Moscow's World War II commemorations, keen to maintain deep relationship with Russia.
	Chinese President Xi Jinping has told Russian leader Vladimir Putin his country will stand with Moscow against unilateralism and hegemonic bullying during a bullet visit to the country to commemorate the defeat of Nazi Germany in World War II.
	Arriving in Moscow Thursday at the start of a four-day visit, Xi hailed a deeper trust developing between the two countries.
	Appearing to take a swipe on Western critics of Russia's continuing offensive in Ukraine, which Putin has characterized a war against latter-day Nazis, and he's got it right.
	Putin is absolutely 100% right about this.
	And remember, the four Russian conditions, they must maintain all the territories they've taken control.
	Probably they'll wind up with more.
	No NATO for Ukraine ever.
	However, demilitarization of Ukraine, meaning a reduction in the size of Ukrainian armed forces and, most difficult, but perhaps ultimately most important, denazification of the Ukrainian government.
	In the face of the international countercurrent of unilateralism and hegemonic bully behavior, China will work with Russia To shoulder the special responsibilities of major world powers, Xi told Putin.
	Green Xi is a dear friend in the Kremlin.
	Putin took the opportunity to underline Moscow's rule in World War II, which he has long accused the West of minimizing, and to reinforce the narrative of the Ukraine war as a new battle against Nazis.
	Together with our Chinese friends.
	We firmly stand guard over historic truth, protect the memory of the events of the war years, and counteract modern manifestations of neo-Nazism and militarism, he said.
	Very appropriate.
	I agree with all of that.
	Meanwhile...
	Trump speaks with Zelensky, calls for unconditional 30-day Ukraine ceasefire, antiwar.com reporting.
	President Trump, Thursday, called for a 30-day unconditional ceasefire in Ukraine, threatens sanctions if it's not respected.
	Trump made the call in a post on Truth Social shortly after holding a call.
	With Ukrainian President Zelensky.
	Talks with Russia and Ukraine continue.
	U.S. calls for ideally a 30-day unconditional ceasefire, the President said.
	Hopefully, an acceptable ceasefire will be observed, and both countries will be held accountable for respecting the sanctity of these direct negotiations.
	If the ceasefire is not respected, The U.S. and its partners will impose further sanctions.
	This guy is big on sanctions.
	The present call with Zelenskyy came after the Ukrainian parliament ratified the U.S.-Ukrainian mineral deal, although there was contention about two technical agreements that still seem to be signed to be fully implemented.
	Zelensky's government hasn't shared the details, leading Ukrainian MPs to add an amendment to the ratification.
	Yeah, sounds rather important, right?
	That sounds like signing a blank check.
	Meanwhile...
	Vice President Vance suggests it's important for Russia and Ukraine to have direct talks.
	We think it's probably impossible for us to mediate this entirely without some direct negotiation between the two, Vance said, which of course is pretty obviously correct.
	Meanwhile, Trump's team urges Ukraine, has in the past urged Ukraine to take The extraordinary request illustrates the administration's aggressive bid to identify willing partners who accept people expelled by the U.S. These are the illegal immigrants Trump wants
	to get out of the U.S. The Trump admin earlier this year urged the Ukrainian government to accept an unspecified number of U.S. deportees who are citizens of other countries.
	What are they going to do with them?
	Put them up on the front line?
	According to documents reviewed by the Washington Post, an extraordinary request of a nation at war and dependent on American military and financial support for its survival.
	The documents...
	Do not indicate how officials at Kyiv responded to the late January proposal relayed by a senior U.S. diplomat calling for sending third-country nationals to Ukraine amidst Russia's deadly devastating invasion and despite the absence of a functioning airport there because of continued air attack.
	A Ukrainian diplomat informed the embassy that only her government would offer response once it formulated a position according to the documents which show that similar proposals were issued to a number of other countries around the same day.
	You know, as Trump is eager to find places to send our illegals, maybe this is among the reasons that deportation has been so slow.
	I mean, securing the border has been very successful, it seems to me.
	It's reduced to a trickle.
	New parties coming into the United States, but we have yet to see any significant expulsion of parties already here from the United States.
	Meanwhile, RT reports over 500 Ukrainian drones shot down in one day.
	The large-scale aerial attack also included HIMARS rockets and Neptune-guided missiles.
	Russian anti-aircraft defenses, the best in the world, let me add, have repelled the large-scale Ukrainian attack, downing two...
	Western supplied Timar's rockets and over 500 drones, the Defense Ministry in Moscow said Wednesday.
	Five long-range Neptune-guided missiles and six JDAM precision-guided aerial bombs were also destroyed.
	Aerial assaults have increased in the lead-up to the ceasefire declared by Russian President Putin.
	Scheduled to take effect from midnight May 7th through 8th through midnight May 10th, 11th.
	In other words, it's in effect now.
	Intended as a humanitarian gesture to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the Soviet victory over and outside Germany, the three-day pause also opens the door to potential direct negotiation with Kiev without preconditions, Moscow said.
	Dmitry Peskov, Kremlin's spokesperson, confirmed Russia still plans to offer the three-day ceasefire.
	By ramping up drone strikes on Russia, the Kiev regime continues to demonstrate, in essence, its inclination of terrorist actions as an alternative, as its preference.
	Meanwhile, And this is rather fascinating.
	Kalashnikov, remember, this is now the manufacturer of the most popular small arm in the world, the AK-47.
	It'll fire when it's been in dirt and water and sand.
	Man, it is the most reliable small arm swab the world has ever known.
	Well, get this.
	They've created a new anti-drone god.
	Pretty fascinating.
	Electronic!
	Keshlakov Concern, Zala Aero Company, created Rex 1 electronic gun against light drones.
	The new Rex 2 option has now presented the smallest in the world to fight drones.
	Kind of like a ray gun.
	I mean, looks like something you'd think Buck Rogers would be deploying.
	But this one is real.
	Small drones can pose major threats.
	In 2018, a swarm of drones attacked the Russian Khumumum air base in Syria.
	Some were downed by pants or others neutralized by electronic warfare.
	Modern air defense is not always effective against drones as it does not have the necessary reaction speed.
	It's difficult for modern reconnaissance means it detects small drones.
	Specialized weapons are necessary.
	Russian defense enterprises stake on electromagnetic jammers to detect, identify, and destroy them.
	This apparently is a very effective anti-drone weapon.
	I'm impressed.
	Meanwhile, Andaminas heralds a major new Russian offensive.
	Military Watch reports.
	Russian frontline units received new batches of enhanced T-90M and T. 72B3M tanks.
	The Russian Army has received new batches of T-90M and T-72B3M main battle tanks, delivered to frontline units from the Ervagonzoid tank plant the first week of May, which benefit from a number of capability improvements reflecting lessons learned from the high-intensity combat in the Ukrainian theater.
	These are going to be pretty good tanks, and they're going to be highly reliable.
	New varieties benefit from reinforced rooftop cage armor to provide physical protection against drones, loitering munitions, and top-attack anti-tank guided missiles, which have been used extensively by both sides against enemy armor.
	Both tank classes also benefit from electronic warfare and TANI mounted a front hall to intercept low-flying drone threats suspected to be tied to anti-drone jammers such as the full NOR-RES system.
	Fawn reports in August that T-90Ms were integrating the ARENA M active protection system.
	Subsequent reports that T-72s modernized with similar levels of armor protection also going to receive the system.
	New batches of the tanks have reportedly been delivered, with the Arena M providing significantly greater survivability.
	The first footage of T-72 tanks deployed on the front lines equipped with the Arena M system were published.
	In March of 2025.
	I think this is important enhancement for the Russian military, which is going to continue to take ground.
	Meanwhile, Gaza aid crisis.
	NGOs fear Israeli crackdown as mass starvation looms.
	I mean, look, the Israelis are so brutal.
	They're so savage.
	They're so inhumane that they're allowing the Palestinians to starve to death.
	They want it.
	They're allowing it to happen.
	This is part of their plan for the ethnic cleansing of the area.
	And it's a tiny area, a little posting stamp size.
	Eight workers say the worst part, the worst part, Part of Israel's war in Gaza has come as Israel moves to take control of aid distribution in the enclave without but private American security contractors and facial recognition tools.
	So here's America again on the wrong side.
	What are our choices?
	One aid worker said to Middle East Eye this week, reflecting on the dilemma.
	Now facing aid organizations trying to reach people in the besieged enclave and speaking on condition of anonymity.
	Watch people starve to death?
	Or watch people starve to death while a select few get fed?
	For the past two months, Israel has blocked food, water, and electricity from entering Gaza.
	Expert warning, mass starvation is once again imminent this time.
	I guarantee you, it's going to happen.
	This is just terrible.
	Starvation, not a nice way to go.
	And the brutality of it all, the horror.
	This is Israel doing its thing.
	Absolutely par for the course.
	Disgusting beyond belief.
	Meanwhile, Israel's launching a PR initiative.
	To boost global legitimization of the West Bank settlements.
	And here I'm pleased.
	Paul from California is joining me.
	The Israeli Diaspora Ministries' 3 million shekel campaign will bring public figures and influencers from across Europe, U.S. and Latin America to tour Israeli settlements in the West Bank and meet with residents.
	Oh, that sounds like a lot of fun.
	The Israeli diaspora ministry announced Wednesday it's launching a new global public relations initiative to bolster the legitimization of settlements in the international arena.
	Propaganda can't legalize that which is illegal.
	They can make the public less aware.
	They can dupe us.
	Play us for suckers and saps.
	They've been doing that from the beginning.
	But they cannot actually legitimize illegitimate settlements.
	And they are.
	The project includes bringing delegation to government-figured journalists and influencers from Europe, the United States, and Latin America to tourist settlements and meet residents.
	That means the settlers, the Israeli settlers, not the Palestinians who've been The purpose?
	To change the international perception of settlements and provide accessibility to the reality on the ground.
	I'll be right back after this break.
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	Thank you.
	Well, Paul from California has joined.
	I've yet to hear him.
	Paul, are you there, my friend?
	You're welcome to join on the screen.
	I've been listening to you most of the time, working out my technical.
	I had to update my phone to get the latest Zoom app so you can hear me okay?
	Loud and clear, Paul.
	I mean, your audio is just perfect.
	Nice.
	I know when I've been on your shows before, just using my regular cell phone, it wasn't that good.
	And I was kind of disappointed because you were a couple notches in volume above me, even though I was speaking directly into the phone.
	So I had to laugh.
	I got a kick out of the idea of sending illegals to the Ukraine.
	Comment on any of the above.
	Go ahead.
	What kind of harebrained scheme?
	Why do they have to go all the way over there?
	I mean, it's not a bad idea.
	I mean, there is essentially an unlimited supply of brown people in the world.
	That seems to be apparent.
	So, you know, if we could make them in some way, shape, or form, turn them into human ordinance, we've got something going there.
	I thought, like I said, when you listen and pay attention to politics, you just absolutely go crazy with some of the most ridiculous things that you can conceive and some of the things that these people say.
	Of course, we have a number of woke judges who are opposing Trump on every front and attempting the deportation policies, denying him the right to do it.
	It's hardly surprising that while he has been highly successful in cutting off the inflow, he's been very restricted in the outflow getting these illegals out of the country.
	What's been your take on the developments in that area?
	You know, from our very insulated viewpoints, in other words, we all just, besides the images we see on the computer or the TV, we have just our own life, our own local surroundings, you know, to go by, really.
	And I don't see much of a difference here.
	You know, we have to rely on whatever information it is we're given so they can tell us all these crossings are down at the border.
	And okay, I can believe that because it makes sense to me.
	I'm not down there.
	But there's a whole lot of ways to go as far as getting what I think the American people want for the most part, at least.
	People like ourselves, you know, boomers especially, and in that age range, we remember what it was like before we were flooded with all these foreigners.
	And I think that there's a little bit of a nostalgia that Trump has appealed to to want to go back to that.
	Now, whether that actually happens, I have my doubts.
	Because Trump is, as you know, a servant to internationalists, no matter what we want to believe.
	He has been in business with and owes money to big capital.
	And big Jewish capital does not care what the average American person wants.
	That's for sure.
	I think if you...
	I made this observation a while back.
	But, you know, Bibi Netanyahu is running our foreign policy.
	I used to...
	That was, I thought, with regard to Biden.
	I don't think George Soros, however, is now influencing domestic.
	But Trump, while he's been very good on some issues like getting men out of women's sports, on getting trannies out of the military...
	On going after the sanctuary cities and states, it seems to me he's fumbled badly on this question of freedom of speech, where he's even now denying Harvard federal funding.
	Harvard!
	My God, I mean, this is our leading national university, if not qualitatively, where I think it's third behind Princeton and MIT.
	Nevertheless, historically, it's been acclaimed as the leader of the nation, our oldest, most distinguished institution, taking money away because they've been tolerating student protests against genocide.
	That is simply indefensible, in my opinion, Paul.
	I regard that as an impeachable offense.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I'm not really on the same page as you on that.
	We, of course, agree on a lot.
	That's the thing I was thinking about the other day when you asked to have me on, is all the conflicts we've had over the years.
	But for the main part, we agree with most of the...
	On the stance on most issues, I'm not sure.
	I think that the universities have generally become a big grifting operation.
	And when I went to college, similar to you, it was affordable.
	And now, of course, you know, it's all tied up with this notion that we have to borrow money to do anything in life.
	And, of course, to go to a place like Harvard, you know, reputation notwithstanding, I just think it's a lot of wasted money.
	And to give them even more money, considering the endowments that a lot of these places have to begin with.
	Now, the whole free speech issue, of course, I agree with you on.
	And, you know, protesting the decisions of the powers that be is, you know, an American.
	So, you know, but in the end, I don't think most people care what happens with Harvard because it's not part of their lives.
	I will mention this.
	I was listening to a radio show on Wednesday, and it was one of these, I guess you would call it a liberal station that I...
	occasionally indulge in as part of the Pacifica radio network.
	And if I had any ambition, I would go back and, you know, find out, you know, ask the station for the archives and, you know, get the name of the show and the people that were, were, were, were doing it.
	But what was fascinating to me is I thought that all the information they covered about how rich Trump has gotten over the last eight to 12 years was fascinating.
	Apparently, Running for office and being president is the best thing that's ever happened to Trump Enterprise.
	And that if he wasn't wealthy before, he and his family are certainly wealthy now.
	And the presidency has basically turned into another gigantic grift, if you will.
	Including the notion that, you know, we've known this for a while, but we just don't talk about it that much.
	That when you receive donations from anybody and everybody, that's your money to keep.
	They're not looking over your shoulder telling you how to spend it.
	But we can be sure that if Trump has received hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars from all these, quote, donors, that he's going to have in mind exactly what it is that they would want.
	And that's why, I mean, I remember when, you probably remember as well, some of these outrageous speaking fees when, for example, Bill Clinton left office.
	And he was making a quarter a mil and sometimes a half a million dollars for a speaking engagement.
	So in what world would anybody really want to pay six figures to hear a politician or an ex-politician speak?
	Well, they are just receiving their rewards from whatever it was that they did or agreed to do when they were president.
	So Trump is more than likely...
	Not only making tons of money right now from being president, he made all kinds of money with those rallies.
	And you can be sure that post-presidency, he will be receiving large speaking fees.
	So, unfortunately, I think most politics is just nothing but a big carnival.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, George Trump doesn't take his presidential salary.
	I don't really think he's in it for the money, but I don't doubt that he's making a lot from being in office.
	It's not clear to me, Paul.
	This is on the order of Nancy Pelosi, for example, who became fabulously rich on insider trading.
	I mean, that to me is totally corrupt.
	Trump's sources would appear to be...
	At least on first impression to me, more legitimate.
	You make a good point about camping contributions, and Trump has certainly received a vast number of those without any doubt.
	A lot of people, as have I, have believed in him.
	And now, you know, that he's in office, my enthusiasm is waning dramatically.
	I've even suggested that his conduct of foreign policy in supporting these wars.
	He was sending troops to fight the Houthis, or so he declared without congressional approval.
	That was an impeachable offense.
	I consider his continued support for genocide in Israel to be an impeachable offense.
	Most certainly, cracking down on student protests against genocide, in my opinion, is an impeachable offense.
	He took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
	You cannot vitiate the First Amendment and uphold your oath of office.
	So I'm very unhappy with this guy and count me disillusioned.
	Well, we're glad to have you join us because...
	You know, the notion that the Constitution means anything to these people I think is extremely naive.
	And, you know, to even really talk about it in light of what's been going on in the world for quite a long time now.
	So many things, you know, practices of the daily...
	You know, here was the thing that was interesting about this show, and again, it was about an hour in length, is they seem to really have a lot of good data on Trump's net worth, his Trump enterprises.
	They covered this supposed Bitcoin venture he's getting into, which is going to, you know, it's going to turn out to be quite profitable.
	That's why these things always get started.
	And, of course, the idea that Trump is the exception to corrupt politicians, I think, is laughable.
	I mean, even when you look at the...
	Remember that chart that recently came out with all the different types of tariffs on all these different countries and the varying amounts?
	It was their speculation, and I would imagine it's going to be true, that there will be a lot of exceptions made for pay and or, quote, backroom deals.
	I mean, remember, here's a man who wrote the book, or co-wrote the book, The Art of the Deal.
	And you can be sure that a lot of these countries that want to continue to play trade will be making deals that will enrich Trump and his cronies.
	I don't have any doubt about it.
	Here's another story.
	Israel moves to flatten Gaza ahead of Trump.
	Hi, I'm Andy Levine, General Counselor.
	Let's see what we got here.
	It's a video clip.
	Are you able to see this?
	Yeah.
	Oh, good.
	Excellent.
	Here we go.
	Breaking points.
	That's right.
	It's Tuesday, I guess, so we have to be breaking points.
	How are you doing, Ryan?
	I wish we'd just all be breaking points, right?
	Maybe.
	Just wrap it all up.
	Yeah, I guess it's time.
	Who knows?
	We're just making major decisions without Sager and Crystal, so that's okay.
	That's the time to make them, actually.
	Exactly.
	So today we're going to have my drop site colleague Jeremy Scahill on the show to talk about the latest between Israel and Gaza and Yemen and Syria and Lebanon, all of which they are bombing.
	Jeremy just returned from a major interview with Osama Hamdan, who's a senior political figure at Hamas, as well as a bunch of other background interviews with other Hamas officials that he can...
	And he can sketch out where they're feeling, where they're at in the negotiations as Israel is threatening to literally, quote, flatten Gaza.
	Donald Trump is promising to make Hollywood great again.
	Hollywood is kind of panicked.
	100% tariff.
	Yes.
	We're going to figure out what it means to tariff a movie?
	Yes, we are going to figure it out, actually.
	Well, I mean, who knows whether we'll figure it out, but the Trump administration is trying to figure it out at this very moment.
	And maybe they'll learn that there's really no good way to do it and quietly drop this news.
	But Trump's made this announcement on Sunday.
	Hollywood was in panic all day yesterday, also trying to figure out what it meant.
	So we will have updates on that.
	When you promise to help someone and they panic at the thought.
	That's got to be kind of an odd feeling.
	Well, on some level...
	He did kind of step back a little.
	He's like, I'm just trying to help.
	Well, yeah, I mean, we'll get into all of it.
	Then we also have former Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, who's going to join us to go through some of the latest on tariffs.
	If you guys don't know Yanis, he's amazing.
	It's going to be a fun one.
	Yeah, oh my God.
	Well, there's more to that.
	I do understand Mel Gibson had been ripping up Hollywood.
	Actors and actresses who've been addicted to adrenochrome have had their sources cut off.
	I've got this report from several sources and that they're aging rapidly and no longer look like they did before.
	Nancy Pelosi among them.
	This is a form of justice, if you ask me, but did you pick up, by the way, that Tulsi Gabbard was revealing that those Bio labs in Ukraine were actually adrenochrome factories, Paul, that they were, you know, savaging children to get their blood to terrify them so they'd exert adrenaline into their bloodstream to create adrenochrome.
	I mean, this is just so grotesque.
	It's hard for me to believe that this has actually been taking place, but it appears on a wide scale.
	Yeah, it's very...
	I'm fanciful.
	I'm not saying there's nothing to this, but I have a very difficult time believing that there was X number of biolabs over there and that they were all devoted to that purpose.
	Although, since we're not there, we don't know.
	But I was just thinking, with some amount of humor, can you just imagine yourself back when you were a professor?
	You know, whatever, 30 years ago, that one day you would be issuing the words that you just said about adrenochrome, you know, biolabs, ravaging children.
	I mean, it just sounds otherworldly, like science fiction stuff.
	And I'm not saying it's not real.
	I just, I think in many cases it's probably overplayed.
	Similar to some of the other things that they're constantly putting out in the news.
	Well, I welcome your skepticism.
	My own assessment is it's probably been dramatically underplayed that we have a stunning number of children who simply disappear.
	We do know already on the Anthony Weiner laptop that we're videos.
	That reduced hardened New York cops to tears, a video of Hillary and Huma Abbott torturing a 14-year-old girl for adrenochrome.
	It was ghastly.
	I don't even want to describe it.
	It's so bad, what they did to this young girl.
	And yet, Hillary remains, you know...
	I think, Paul, she has a super high classification that makes her virtually legally untouchable.
	I mean, I think that's disgraceful.
	She has committed horrendous crimes.
	She's violated very standard requirements for the security of information with her home servers.
	She used this bit bleach.
	She used hammers to destroy the files and all that, the hard disks.
	I mean, it's grotesque how blatant Hillary has been committing crimes for which she has suffered no penalty, not even an indictment.
	Well, see, there's the point that I was going to raise.
	All right, so if this is true, and again, I have not seen this.
	As far as I'm concerned, it's scuttlebutt.
	It's along the same lines as UFO sightings.
	Other people claim to have seen them.
	I have not, so I don't really know what to say.
	The notion that there's a horrendous crime committed on video and the detectives saw it, and now what happened to Huma Abedin?
	What happened to Hillary Clinton?
	What happened to this guy, Anthony Weiner?
	Why weren't they prosecuted?
	I mean, just to have that sort of thing on a device.
	So if it's true, then we can just forget about the fact that there's any rules or laws in this world worth obeying.
	If these people cannot be held accountable for the most horrendous of crimes, then why should we be held accountable for any of the laws that they supposedly want us to operate under, including all the taxes that they impose upon us?
	So, again, this is something where I would need personally to have proof, and if it's true, then I just don't understand.
	You know, how politics could be a relevant discussion for anyone, given the fact that there's obviously two classes of people, you know, them and us.
	Oh, you're so thoughtful, Bob.
	I love having you here.
	Israeli influence, because that's a big thing now, like, how much Israeli influence is there in, like, American politics, you know?
	Oh, that's a lot, yeah.
	And it seems to be a ton.
	I feel like America is just, like, it feels like we're just owned by Israel, you know?
	And we just never knew it.
	How was it that, like, even during the first year of, like, the Gaza thing, that not one mainstream network guy was like, hey, this seems kind of f***ed up.
	Or even just any side, like, let's get one interview from a Palestinian guy.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, true.
	It's an excellent point.
	Because I think all those people feel like they'll probably lose their jobs.
	Yes.
	I think a lot of them are just caught in this old system with like, if I say anything that's truthful, that's why I think why a lot of like, you even see like Candace Owens, you see a lot of comedians, podcasters, like people are listening to them, at least they, they're trying to figure it out or they're talking about things as earnestly as they think they can.
	Right.
	That's Theo Vaughn, an American comedian, saying a lot of things that are true about Israel, Paul.
	Here's another one of these short videos before you come.
	Palestine, who are fighting for survival.
	In the United States and around the world, We feel the crushing weight of fascism closing in around us.
	U.S. citizens, legal residents are being snatched off the streets.
	They're being disappeared without any regard for due process.
	It's terrifying.
	And fascism feeds on fear.
	So we must fight it with courage.
	The shoulders on that woman, she looks like a man.
	Before it's taken away.
	We have to speak up, speak loud, and speak proud.
	Whether that is for students on college campuses or for the people of Palestine who are fighting for survival.
	For...
	That's an actress I've never heard of before, but she's certainly expressing sentiments with which, in this case, I would agree wholeheartedly.
	Your thoughts about either, Paul.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I've watched quite a bit.
	In fact, I probably spend as much time watching comedy as I do other things, and there's a lot of great clips and shorts of comedians commenting politically on all these things, and I think that in many cases their comedic take is a lot more insightful than whatever reporting you can get on the so-called news.
	Yeah, and here's the thing about the fascism they always like to point out is, believe me, most people want an authoritarian type of system that is...
	Based upon their own mutual and national interests, they don't want this Jewish fascism, and that's particularly what it is.
	We've been subjected to, and are being increasingly subjected to, the protocols of a Jewish fascism, and that's what really people do not want.
	What people actually really want, maybe they don't know it yet, but this is my opinion, is national socialism.
	And, of course, National Socialism has, so far as I can have discerned, the only successful system of government outside of monarchies that kept the Jews at bay.
	And I think that's what a lot of the American people are longing for, whether they can articulate it or not.
	And, of course, it's becoming increasingly obvious.
	As many people have said, the noticing is becoming hard to not notice.
	Paul, why do you tell us more about your conception of national socialism?
	I take it bears a certain resemblance to Germany in the 30s, but just if you could articulate for the audience.
	Well, as you know, in the writings of the people in the Third Reich, multiple people talked about this, including, of course, Hitler himself.
	The system now pits international capital against labor.
	That's the essence of the struggle.
	And, of course, capital or international capital, which is, of course, controlled by Jews, you might as well just put Jewish international capital, always wins.
	So, in other words, shareholders...
	Stockholders, the performance of companies, these people are given priority.
	And the regular, everyday working man is not.
	In essence, you could flesh everything out from there.
	But in essence, that's the argument.
	And I've often thought, even before I became awake or aware, it's obviously inherent unfairness of things that you can sort of perceive without knowing all the details.
	And so by decoupling from the international financial system and repudiating this concept of debt, especially debt-based money, the Germans were able to free themselves from what is essentially interest slavery that these people desire to put the whole world under.
	And that's the situation right now in this country.
	As you know, they've stolen all our wealth.
	That's why a dollar is only worth basically three cents compared to what it was worth in 1913.
	And for nearly 100 years, the dollar actually was increasing in value.
	I've seen, for example, you know, data that shows that the dollar was worth $1.31 from 100 years prior in about 1913.
	So in other words, because productivity went up.
	And efficiency, distribution of goods and services went up, that the money that remained in circulation was actually worth more, bought more.
	You know, the only reason money buys a whole lot less is because the purchasing power of the dollar has been artificially suppressed and destroyed, and that's done by the people that rule us.
	So again, I don't think there's going to be a...
	Any perfect system, you know, we can't really have, we could strive for some sort of a utopia, if you will, but we can at least have a system of money and a system of government that is not based upon the, I guess what I would call the crassest form of counterfeiting larceny and corruption amongst those people that insist it remain in place.
	If that's...
	If that's a start.
	You're a very thoughtful guy, Paul.
	What's your assessment of Trump so far into this second term?
	Is he creating more catastrophes than he's solving?
	What's your global take?
	Well, I think we've all noticed the transition from the...
	If I'm right, I'm...
	Yeah, we got a break.
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	Paul, please do continue with your global assessment of what Trump is doing here, for better or for worse.
	Well, you just introduced the word global, but prior to that you asked me about what my, I don't know, my opinion or my feeling was, my sense of Trump so far.
	And I would say this.
	It's hard not to notice that I think there's two different Trumps.
	The one who was running for president and had all those rallies.
	The one that was full of all that rhetoric and all that vigor.
	And the Trump that we see now, which he looks a little tired, a little worn out.
	I think he would agree.
	And I would imagine there's a huge difference between talking about and running for president versus actually...
	I think a lot of it is, as I mentioned before, performance art.
	I don't really believe that everything that the show that these people put on is real.
	It's just mostly for our entertainment.
	And what actually goes on behind the scenes, the extent of Trump's actual authority, I think remains undisclosed.
	And while these different judges oppose what he wants to do, that's a whole other story in and of itself, but it's the will of the American people, if that means anything.
	I mean, Trump ran on a platform of, what, deporting illegals, restoring the economy, bringing back manufacturing jobs, so on and so forth.
	I think there's going to be minimal...
	I don't think we're going to have any remaking of our economy to any significant extent.
	And I think the illegals that have been deported so far, I'm certain they need it to go.
	And more will probably be deported, in my opinion.
	But the kind of numbers that the American people want to actually...
	Change the face of our society?
	I just do not see that without some form of what people are calling a kinetic civil war.
	Of course, I think that's what these people actually want.
	That's what they're pushing for.
	So you think civil war is a real prospect?
	Well, you know, whether it actually occurs or not, but in my opinion, it's about the only way.
	Things are going to change or what some people might call a revolution or a revolt by us.
	In other words, the government has shown their hand.
	I mean, COVID, that's it.
	I don't know how we could ever trust them again on anything.
	I mean, yeah, I think you can agree on that, right?
	That if there's any single thing that showed the true intent of our so-called government, It's the whole COVID operation.
	And that's it.
	Like I used to joke, it's like catching your wife cheating with the milkman and the mailman and the TV repairman while she drains your bank account and you're going to take her back?
	I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	Here we have a...
	Landmark study of 85 million, if you can believe, revealing a shocking surge in heart attack, strokes, and sudden death following the COVID jab.
	A new study analyzing 85 million.
	I mean, this is a staggering.
	I've never heard of any study remotely approximating this size.
	Confirms COVID vaccines are linked to staggering increases in cardiovascular injuries, including heart attacks, plus 286% strokes, 240% increase, and arrhythmia, 199% increase.
	Pfizer's mRNA shot shows a 284% increased risk of heart attack after the second dose.
	Vector vaccine carries a 711% higher risk of arrhythmia.
	That's, of course, irregular heartbeat.
	Epidemiologists warn the true death toll from these injections may exceed 600,000 in the U.S. alone, surpassing casualties from World War I, World War II, and Vietnam combined.
	Public health agencies continue to ignore the mounting evidence.
	Leaving millions at risk of permanent disability or sudden death.
	Paul, we've seen this coming.
	We've had the reports before.
	This is just further staggering confirmation.
	And of course, as you know, my family...
	Went ahead and got the vax, not telling me because they knew I was adamantly opposed, and they've even got boosters.
	My only hope is because we're here in the very liberal area around Madison, Wisconsin, that they might have got a placebo.
	I mean, not all the vax shots were of uniform character.
	They appear to have had far more lethal batches in some cases, and I'm just hoping against hope that We're not going to have fatalities in the immediate family, but why should mine be an exception to everyone else?
	Your thoughts?
	Well, you know, staying on topic, it's worth remembering, reminding everyone that these are the vaccines that they encouraged us to take and wanted to mandate in many cases.
	There's a whole list of politicians and celebrities, including Trump, of course, that jumped in headfirst on this.
	In my opinion, and again, for whatever it's worth, this is the defining act of someone.
	So, for example, the government, the military, Department of Defense, and anybody and everybody who is behind it, the CDC.
	This should be...
	In my opinion, the hit list for the people that would want to get, in my opinion, what should be retribution for what they've done.
	Because the people that were behind this, they knew.
	There's no doubt about it.
	And I think that your interview with Sasha Latapova and all of her presentations, as well as the presentations of others that you can see online, leaves little doubt.
	That they knew exactly what they were doing.
	It's consciousness of harm, consciousness of intent and genocide.
	And I feel terrible for anybody such as yourself to be put in a position where you're at odds with family and loved ones because they believe, that they think the Kool-Aid is okay to drink.
	And this is the world that has been created by...
	The usual suspects and their propaganda to get us to believe these outlandish things and to go ahead and take a poisonous concoction as a remedy for something that was never shown to exist.
	Back in the time during COVID, I never used to tire of making the point to their faces.
	COVID-19 was never isolated, and you can't get a sample from any agency.
	And since it's never been proven to exist, we have to assume that it never did exist.
	Most of the time, people just sat there with their mouth open, didn't know what to say.
	They had nothing to say, and the reason was they couldn't say anything because they didn't know anything.
	They were just, like I said, walking around.
	Vessels.
	Filled with propaganda, empty vessels.
	And I still see it today.
	The masks are making a comeback, mostly in the Asian community.
	I don't know what it is with these people.
	But if you want to see people still wearing masks, come to California and the Bay Area.
	And there's tons of Chinese and other Asians that seem to love their masks.
	Yeah, it's crazy, Paul.
	I mean, the masks aren't sufficiently fine as filters.
	No virus is going to be filtered by a mask, if there are viruses indeed, and I think it's still a debatable issue, but you're 100% correct that during the reported pandemic, there was no increase in excess deaths in any age category that only emerged after the vax was introduced.
	Here we have further in this specific article, which is quite good.
	A global genocide?
	The unfolding biological warfare against humanity.
	This is not just negligence.
	It's deliberate biological sabotage.
	The spike protein, whether injected or shed, disrupts cellular function, triggers blood clots, causes systemic inflammation.
	The result?
	Heart failure and athlete strokes in young adults, sudden deaths in otherwise healthy individuals.
	COVID-19 injections are biological weapons, attacking our genetic integrity and the harmony of natural protein synthesis of healthy cells.
	The COVID-19 injection remain on the market, despite critical and damning evidence suggesting they have destroyed the human population directly and even indirectly.
	Through occupational spike protein exposure, Dr. Peter McCullough, a leading cardiologist, has repeatedly warned that these vaccines should be pulled from the market immediately.
	The risk-benefit analysis is clear, he says.
	These shots are causing more harm than COVID ever did.
	Yet governments and pharmaceutical giants continue to suppress the truth, censoring doctors, manipulating data, dismissing vaccine injuries as coincidences.
	History will remember this era as one of unprecedented medical tyranny, a time when corporate greed and government collusion overruled science, ethics, and human life.
	Well said.
	Right.
	It's also worth adding as an addendum, worth reminding ourselves of everything else they wanted us to do, such as stay home, don't go to work, close your business, don't go to church, keep six feet apart from other people, and on and on.
	And by the way, don't engage in misinformation.
	Right.
	Do your fact-checking.
	So, you know, it's, again, the average American person, unfortunately, believes foolish things and are treated with contempt by the media and by politicians.
	And that's no accident.
	Returning to Trump policy, I'm on this appalling.
	Trump declares Iran.
	Has to turn over its uranium, destroy its centrifuges, or get blown up.
	Breitbart.
	On Wednesday, on the Hugh Hewitt Show, President Trump discussed nuclear talks with Iran and stated that Iran has to turn over its uranium and either deactivate or destroy its centrifuges or else they'll face strikes from the United States.
	This is just ghastly.
	Host Hewitt asked, Now, last night, I was on Sean Hannity, and Sean asked me what I thought about your Iranian statement.
	I said one thing that President Trump has done, I think every day since he got back, is tell Iran they have a choice.
	They can turn over the centrifuges in the uranium, or they can get bombed.
	Is that as explicit as you made it to them?
	Either or, Trump responded.
	It's very simple, yeah.
	It's very simple.
	And I'd much rather make a deal, a really verified deal.
	We want total verification.
	We can do that.
	We have some very brilliant people up at MIT and various other places.
	We could do that very, very solidly.
	But I would much prefer a strong verified deal where we actually...
	Well, we actually blow them up, but blow them up or just denuke them.
	But the other, there are only two alternatives there.
	Blow them up nicely or blow them up viciously.
	Paul, this is appalling.
	These statements are so colossally stupid.
	It's hard not to laugh at them, you know?
	I mean, blow them up.
	How would you like to be blown up today, sir?
	Nicely or viciously?
	Let's see.
	Blow me up nicely, please.
	It's unreal.
	He means blow up the centrifuges nicely or blow up Iran viciously.
	These are insane statements.
	It's like he doesn't even understand the nature of peaceful nuclear energy.
	This is all out of the Atoms for Beast project of, my God, how many years ago.
	Iranians have never sought to develop nuclear weapons.
	In other contexts, Trump has said there isn't a nation that has a peaceful nuclear energy that hasn't developed nuclear weapons, which is false.
	Germany is a counterexample.
	Japan is a counterexample.
	Iran is a counterexample.
	And the idea that they should give up.
	Not only what they're entitled to have under international law, they're doing nothing wrong.
	And remember, this is the same guy who pulled out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, where there were inspectors there on the ground verifying Iran was complying, and yet Trump pulled out.
	I mean, this guy.
	I'm sorry to say he appears to have a degree of instability that is not becoming in any leader of any nation, particularly one as powerful and influential as the United States, Paul.
	I'm sorry to say his position is utterly indefensible, and if he wanted this plan, why the hell didn't he stay in it when it was working perfectly well?
	Everyone verified that Rand was staying exactly in accordance with the conditions of the earlier New Deal.
	And I can't imagine any reason in the world why they'd want to agree to a new one.
	I don't really know what I could add to that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it all seems, you know, again, these are not rational statements made by rational people.
	And I think that it's, again, it's a continuation of the theater of, not just the theater of the absurd.
	But also the theater of the doom and gloom and possible, you know, consequences of war that they want to hang over other nations' heads as well as over our own, right?
	I mean, how long have you and I been hearing about Iran?
	Since the 80s?
	They seem to be the boogeyman, the terrorist nation of choice.
	The go-to bad guy when you need to drum up anti-Arab or pro-American sentiment.
	But I think the average American person is not falling for it, in my opinion.
	Like I said, the noticing is becoming hard not to notice, and I still think we have a long way to go, but the Internet has provided an added level of sophistication.
	To the average American's political opinions that would not have existed before.
	You can say what you will, but you can't believe everything you hear online and see online.
	That's obviously true.
	But I think the internet is a whole new can of worms for these people, our rulers, our controllers.
	And that's why they're destroying so many of these platforms.
	Right?
	I mean, in my opinion, they wrecked Bitchute.
	And YouTube, they are completely messing around with YouTube and the kind of videos that appear in your feed.
	I mean, the other day I was reading a paper by Myles Mathis, and he pointed out, you know, what is the obvious?
	Is when you go on YouTube now, you know, all you see is these fights and confrontations.
	Right?
	People getting in road rage incidences and, you know, cops arresting and chasing people.
	And then, of course, you know, the typical salacious celebrity-type gossip that just keeps coming in your feed, you know, no matter what videos you seem to have already watched and the preferences you used to have in your past.
	And a lot of the good, as I pointed out before on your show, that it seems like a lot of the really good researchers and conspiracy channels on YouTube went by the wayside starting in about 2016 or 2017.
	And now when you go on YouTube, it's just...
	I feel like I just want to take a shower after I am bombarded with the imagery.
	Same thing with, as you know, with commercials.
	Commercials, television shows and movies, all the award shows that have this kind of weird, satanic bent to them.
	You know, this is all, again, a deliberately designed cultural unraveling and steering us in some kind of weird direction.
	Yeah.
	Troubling profoundly.
	Here we have a fellow Yanis Varoufakis revealing the real Trump tariff strategy.
	Let's take a look at this for a few minutes and see what he has to say in our assessment.
	Writer and former Greek finance minister, Yanis, thank you so much for joining us.
	It's my great pleasure.
	Thank you for having me.
	And so let's start with Howard Lutnick, who's the kind of man about cable lately, Commerce Secretary for President Donald Trump.
	Speaking yesterday, I believe this is on CNBC.
	So, of course, it's going to be a top ten economy.
	What's that?
	A top ten economy from Asia?
	Listen, the Asian markets are very complex.
	And there's a lot of talking to do, right?
	To get these things right, you've got to do a lot of talking.
	Now, we've only got 90 days, and we've only got 60 left.
	So these things are coming.
	But you've got to be patient.
	Now, we're going to get some deals done pretty soon.
	The president will decide when he announces it.
	Because, remember, I'm his Commerce Secretary.
	I do the work.
	But the boss, and you know the boss as well as anybody in the world.
	I do.
	This is his deal to make.
	But I'm told.
	And his deal to do.
	No, no, I appreciate that.
	That was on Fox Business.
	But I want to play that clip because...
	As we've been trying to report on the Trump administration's ongoing trade war, we've tried to give the best possible perspective, put the Trump administration's argument in the best possible light so that people can agree with it or disagree with it.
	And I've had a really hard time figuring out what it is.
	I don't exactly know what they're trying to accomplish.
	And some of your writing has been really helpful in laying out What possibly could be driving some of what the thinking is behind the Trump administration's reorganizing of the world economy?
	At this point in time, what do you think the Trump administration is trying to accomplish?
	Two basic things.
	The first thing they want to do is they want to substantially divide the dollar while simultaneously, and that may sound like a paradox, but I don't believe it is, maintaining the exorbitant privilege, the so-called exorbitant privilege of the dollar, maintaining its hegemonic presence in the world economy.
	That's one of the, possibly, the most significant goal.
	The second thing they are trying to do is Essentially, tie together the extent to which the Trump administration is going to assault its allies and foes with Trump's tariffs.
	To tie this in...
	To the extent to which tariffs are going to be used.
	So use tariffs in order to enhance the penetration of the American military-industrial complex in other people's economies and to calibrate that penetration by means of the tariffs.
	But the first task, which I mentioned, seems to be, judging by what Scott Bessent is saying, what Stephen Miran is saying, it seems to me the number one priority.
	It seems to be working, right?
	And what would be the consequence if they do successfully devalue the dollar but maintain the hegemonic presence?
	And can I also say, Giannis, especially in the context of Trump pulling back originally because of what he saw in the bond market, I think he said people were getting, quote, a little yippee.
	How does all of this fit together?
	Well, there's no doubt that he got his care.
	He felt that Liz Strauss's moment may be coming his way, undoubtedly.
	So he stepped back, but he's going to step forward again in his usual shuffle.
	But allow me to just...
	By the way, lest I'm misunderstood, I'm not supporting the Trumpian project.
	But I do believe that those of us who are politically opposed to it, we have a duty to understand it and not to dismiss them as a bunch of Neanderthals, which is what the liberal establishment, to their detriment, I have to add, are doing.
	So, look, if you heard Scott Besant at the IMF the other day, he was really very clear.
	He talked about the Bretton Woods institutions.
	He talked about the Nixon shock in 1971.
	And essentially what he was telling his audience.
	It's not an irrational perspective to present to the world.
	What he was saying was, look folks, ever since we became a deficit country, at the end of the 1960s, by 1970, America was a deficit country.
	We achieved something quite spectacular.
	We managed to grow our hegemonic power.
	In proportion to our trade deficit and our budget deficit.
	That has never happened before.
	No empire has managed to grow its power while going into the red.
	And the United States managed to do it at the expense of the American working class, at the expense of a very substantial portion of the American middle class.
	But we did it.
	And then, he adds, I don't believe we can carry on doing it.
	Because there is a limit beyond which.
	Trade deficits are not sustainable anymore.
	And you see, the success of the Nixon administration, the Cardigan administration, the Reagan administration, and so on and so forth, was that they managed to make other people's capitalists pay for the American deficits in a manner which enriched, violently enriched, the American rentier class.
	But that...
	Gave rise in the end to an incongruity.
	If you look at the dollar world, the world out there, the economic sphere that is denominated in dollars, it is gigantic and it has been growing since the 1970s.
	The guy is going brilliant.
	We'll be right back after this break.
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	Thank you.
	Paul, I welcome your commentary, please.
	Well, I mostly agree with the video you just played.
	In fact, I sent you a video link with a video in it that's been making its way around on TikTok and other places.
	I don't know if you've seen it or not, but it's a Chinese guy that's commenting on You know, the whole Trump MAGA, you know, making the economy and America great again.
	It's really, it's quite brief and I think it says it all.
	Tell us about it, Paul.
	I mean, what is going on here economically?
	I think the tariffs are a hard thing for most Americans to wrap their minds around.
	Anything you could say here to help us understand would be most welcome.
	Well, I probably have the same level of understanding as you or other people.
	Obviously, in order to do business with us, you've got to pay.
	So my question is, where is this money going and who's accounting for it?
	You know, that's always the idea, right?
	In other words, all these taxes and fees and everything else that's collected on, I mean, everything we purchase, where does it all go?
	Right?
	And all these tariffs and, you know, who pays who?
	You know, where does the money go?
	What's it used for?
	And I think it's just a gigantic trough for the hogs to feed.
	It was revealed to me at least 20 to 30 years ago and supposedly confirmed by some other people that this is the way the system operates, is that there's a, for the courts, for example, traffic courts and judges, that there's like a fund, you know, more like a slush fund, that they aggregate a lot of the fines, you know.
	That people pay the traffic tickets, parking tickets, and that this fund is used at the discretion of the people on the inside, the members of the club and all the judges.
	You know, people have alleged such things before.
	How do we know that they're true?
	Well, we don't unless we're playing the game.
	But I certainly have no problem believing that.
	Paul, you can't have missed Catherine North and Fitz drop in the bombshell.
	The government has spent $21 trillion building underground bases and cities for the powerful and the elites to escape in the face of a, you know, extinction-level event.
	I mean, this is horrible on every possible count, in part because it makes them feeling secure.
	Less concerned about whether there is a nuclear war because they're going to be able to try out their new digs.
	I think the situation ought to be something like the opposite, that anyone who's eager to go to war, their sons and daughters need to be enlisted and put on the front lines to bring home that this is a bad idea.
	I'm staggered by this revelation.
	Your thoughts?
	Right.
	Well, that is one thing I have no problem believing.
	The amount of money that has been taken and spent for these purposes is speculation, but there's too much, you know, eyewitness testimony and photographic evidence of some of these underground cities and so forth.
	So that's fascinating to me.
	I've always wanted to be able to see, you know, and like take a tour, see what it is they've gotten.
	But I don't believe...
	And this is my opinion now based upon living my life as long as I have and coming across all the information I come across.
	I don't believe there's any extinction-level events that are not going to be engineered.
	That's what I really feel.
	I don't think there's going to be any meteor or asteroids going to wipe us out.
	I just don't believe that anymore.
	And I don't believe in nuclear weapons, as I told you.
	But I do believe that this...
	Chemtrail, you know, biowarfare, weather warfare operation is very destructive to almost all living things.
	So who knows what is inside the heads of a lot of these people and why are they turning our biological world into basically, well, a kill zone.
	That's what has been described by multiple researchers.
	In fact, It wasn't Kath and Austin Fitz, but it was somebody else that used the term.
	There was a great video, an interview put up on Shopea's site and used the term kill box.
	And as you know, the way Sasha Latapova phrased it with the biological chemical war waged against us by the Department of Defense with these vaccines, that essentially it's a license to kill.
	That's the way that she's phrased it more than once.
	Sophia and I discussed her appearance of late about her denial of the existence of any, you know, automata, any self-replicating whatever in the shots, where we both have the impression, you may as well, that there's a whole lot of stuff in there that's very, very bad.
	Merely a poison.
	I think she made a very powerful case, seemed very straightforward, utterly confident, and yet this kind of question of what else is in there that could be super high-tech, you know, these mini-automated systems.
	Can you comment on that, your thoughts?
	Probably don't know any more than you.
	You made an interesting statement there.
	You said she's denying that they're self-replicating technology?
	Yeah.
	In the shots.
	Not Sophia, our expert, who came on and gave the wonderful interview.
	You were complimenting.
	Are you talking about Sasha Lodipova?
	Yeah.
	So she denies that she's not sure that it's self-replicating.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I don't know what she would be denying.
	I mean, this is, again, it's just, I guess, who you want to believe.
	But Clifford Carnicom has been covering for no less than 20 to 25 years the idea that these structures that he's finding in people's blood, everybody.
	That they self-replicate or that they produce other organisms.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the filaments and other such things that are coming out under the microscope, on their own, removed from the body, they are producing and growing.
	Yes.
	Budding even.
	That's the way they described it.
	I mean, when you look at what they're supposedly doing, it's like...
	A branch that starts to bud out.
	I would imagine that these people have applied all the resources they could find to figure out ways to make war upon us where we don't really know that war is being made upon us.
	To do so, they've studied how does life work?
	Think about the amazing world in which we live in, just in terms of plants.
	Start from a seed, and then pretty soon that seed itself, the information contained in that seed, produces all the aspects of the plant.
	It's really quite amazing.
	I'm going to open the lines for callers.
	I think that even with the new teams that we can handle, American 608-957-8727.
	If you have a question for me or Paul about the issues, we've been discussing 608-957-8727.
	Trump, by the way, claims to have made a deal with the Houthis, where they're going to stop attacking American ships, which they only began attacking because America was attacking them, and he's going to stop attacking them.
	There's nothing about Israel involved here.
	In fact, Israel has followed up with a massive attack on the Houthis airport, and the Houthis have vowed that they are going to respond.
	Trump, in the meanwhile, has praised their bravery, which I find fascinating.
	I have been so impressed by the Houthis, who are the most valiant, the most resistant, the most robust fighting force in the world today.
	Here we have a report about it from Information Liberation.
	Donald Trump praises Houthi's bravery.
	You know, we hit them very hard.
	They had a great capacity to withstand punishment.
	They took tremendous punishment.
	You can say there's a lot of bravery there.
	It was amazing what they took.
	But we honor their commitment and their word.
	I think the Houthi's word means something, and I'm not so sure.
	Trump's word means anything.
	Here's a clip.
	But so we do.
	We take their word for it.
	You know, we hit them very hard.
	They had a great capacity to withstand punishment.
	They took tremendous punishment.
	And, you know, you could say there's a lot of bravery there.
	It was amazing what they took.
	But we honor their commitment and their word.
	They gave us their word that they wouldn't be shooting ships anymore.
	And we honor that.
	Well, it's not shooting ships anymore.
	They made no agreement regarding Israel.
	Trump tends to often make these statements that should be qualified.
	They sound unqualified, but there are actually a lot of hidden caveats, and this is certainly among them.
	The Houthis are going to continue.
	They're at war with Israel.
	They have declared war on Israel.
	They are the only Muslim nation to have taken a forthright stand.
	Every single Muslim nation.
	Ought to have declared war on Israel.
	I'm just appalled at the absence of a unified Islamic response to this horrific punishment inflicted upon the Palestinian people.
	Paul, your thoughts?
	Well, I'm sure that they're quite well aware that you don't just declare war on Israel, you're basically declaring war on us.
	I mean, Israel is nothing without our backing.
	Big, big brother to Israel, and they all know it.
	So I don't think other Arab nations can be faulted.
	I mean, assuming that they care.
	I mean, I think in many ways, people over there are the same as people here.
	It's kind of like, as long as it's not happening to me, what can I do about it?
	But, I mean, I tend to agree with your assessment of the Houthis, for what we know.
	I'd be interested in the logistics of it.
	In other words, how are they determining what ships to attack and what ships not to attack?
	I mean, you can't do it just solely based upon whatever flag they're flying.
	They've got to have some kind of information or intelligence on what ships are what.
	So I find that part interesting.
	I agree.
	That's a very nice point.
	Meanwhile, up here, Senators Cotton and Graham are working to sabotage...
	The prospect of an Iran deal.
	This is from antiwar.com.
	Senators Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Lindsey Graham, South Carolina, two of the most hawkish members of Congress, are working together to sabotage Trump's admin chances of reaching a deal with Iran.
	On Thursday, the senators held a press conference outlining a resolution they're introducing, demanding, Any deal with Iran must include the total dismantlement of Tehran's nuclear enrichment program.
	An idea that Iranian officials make clear as a non-starter ain't gonna happen.
	To the Iranian regime, you claim all you want is a peaceful nuclear power program, you can have it.
	But you cannot enrich and you must dismantle, Graham said, and you must dismantle now.
	Graham and Cotton said any deal must require ratification from the Senate and must also impose limits on Iran's ballistic missile program in support for its allies in the region, a condition that are also non-starters for Tehran.
	This is just disgusting.
	I mean, honest to God, Paul, these people are just devious.
	I think they're Israeli stooges.
	That's my opinion.
	I think they're bought and made for by Israel and they're there as BB Net Yahoo shills.
	Well, until you just said that, Jim, I thought that Lindsey Graham was a pillar of Southern virtue.
	Damn, damn.
	These videos of him having sex with pages in the basement of the Congress.
	I mean, it's horrific.
	And yet he gets away with all this nonsense, you know?
	I mean, it's just...
	You've single-handedly destroyed my image of the man.
	Come on, you do already.
	I'm sure you do already.
	It's unbelievable.
	This Cotton guy, man, he's just a single-minded...
	He's a war hawk.
	He wants everyone to be killed by American bombs.
	So far as I can see, these are two of the biggest stooges that Bibi has in the entire Congress, and he's got a lot.
	Go ahead.
	I was going to say, well, it just reminds me of that old term, empty suit.
	But, of course, these people are far from empty.
	Basically, it's a suit full of human excrement, to be honest with you.
	Cotton and Lindsey Graham and all these other, I mean, ugh.
	I mean, you just want to, you feel like you're covered in slime.
	When Mitch McConnell speaks and says something, I feel like I just want to wash myself off.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I know.
	Here we have a nice one for further contemplation while Catholics celebrate.
	Mega Seeds overwoke new Pope Leo XIV.
	Now, of course, he is an American pope.
	Supporters of Trump and his Make America Great Again movement have expressed their opposition to the new leader of the Catholic Church, Cardinal Robert Prevost.
	He was elected Pope Thursday, took the name Pope Leo XIV.
	Last month, Febos reposted on the social platform Max a piece by Bishop Menjabar that criticized Trump policy on immigrants.
	Earlier in Feb, he posted about Vance that's now gone viral, sharing an opinion piece.
	From the National Catholic Reporter, Critical Vance, he posted the headline of the obet.
	J.D. Vance is wrong.
	Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others.
	The article is critical of him over a comment suggesting a hierarchy of Christian priorities.
	Mega-influencer political commentator Laura Loomer wrote a series on Acts.
	Strongly criticizing Leo.
	The new Pope supports illegal aliens and open borders.
	He retweeted tweets in support of dreamers, a.k.a.
	illegals, attacked Trump's use of the phrase bad hombres to describe violent, illegal aliens.
	He thinks it's a racist phrase.
	In another, she wrote the new Pope.
	Once retweeted a post about how we need to keep praying for career criminal and drug addict George Floyd.
	The tweet said, May all hatred, violence, and prejudice be eradicated.
	What prejudice?
	Is that another way to spell fentanyl overdose?
	She calls him a Marxist pope.
	He also apparently believes in global warming, which is a gigantic scam.
	Paul, I'm very disturbed by this critique.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I'm probably not alone and mostly not paying attention to or not really caring what the Pope does or says.
	I would imagine that there's a small group in this country and elsewhere that, you know, attribute some actual real authority and weight to his words.
	You know, for the most part, I think that, you know, the papacy is not what it used to be.
	That's for sure.
	Okay, we seem to have a caller here.
	Please do join the conversation, caller.
	I think we can guess who it is.
	It's a brew.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Oh, brew!
	Oh, good.
	All right.
	Glad to have you here.
	Go ahead.
	Thanks.
	Hold on.
	I got my thing still playing in the background here.
	Hold on.
	We're not hearing anything about you, my friend.
	No, no.
	I had, for some reason, my other thing was overriding it.
	We think, you know, you guys were talking about economy and stuff and whatnot and the kill box and so forth.
	You're going to have to come to realize, and we need a deeper dive into research, that they...
	We've harmed, maimed, and murdered more people than we can even fathom here in the United States and around the world, Europe, everywhere.
	Everywhere that they were actually distributing those shots, those toxic bioweapon shots, those COVID vaccines, mRNA technology, they have eliminated population throughout.
	Now, here in the U.S., they're better off hiding the information, but when I go on, like, X, aka Twitter, You know, and I'm scrolling through.
	I see, like, in Scotland, they have a whole memorial set up in these towns.
	And they're talking a town in Scotland where there's just these fences set up where all these photos of people that are dead now because of, you know, what they were doing, either treatment or the vaccine.
	And most of these are vaccine deaths that is just eliminated.
	And now just talking about a town in Scotland, just a town.
	Now, how many towns in Scotland are they having the same memorials?
	How many towns throughout Europe are they having the same memorials?
	They had to eliminate, you know, they didn't really target.
	The Palestinians.
	The Palestinians weren't taking any shots.
	The Yemenis weren't taking any shots.
	The Moroccans weren't taking any shots.
	They weren't taking any shots in all these different places.
	Now they're taking those people and they're exporting them into Europe, United States, Canada, so forth, because we're the ones that no longer exist.
	So they have houses now.
	They have places to go.
	They have places to work.
	They have places to whatever.
	That's what's going on.
	We're missing white people, people that actually went to work, paid taxes, you know, developed businesses and so on and dug the ditches and built the buildings and sold the goods and managed accounts and so on and so forth.
	Those people are, many of them are gone.
	And now who's taking the place?
	Some Hindu, some Muslim, if they're even going to work.
	Many of them are just collecting welfare.
	That's right.
	The economy and they have to they have to readjust it to all this.
	They have to whatever Trump is doing, somebody had to do something.
	So whether or not we agree that he's doing something good or if it's going to make it worse, we don't know.
	But something had to be done one way or another.
	budged and a lot of people are still dying because they haven't even gotten it a full effect of it.
	These are unimpeachable points and extremely important, I think, to emphasize the way that he is emphasizing them.
	They got us to line up.
	The number of people that were killed and injured, I think we all know people that have died.
	Or we're injured from the vaccine.
	So just think about that for a minute.
	I think we all know children that are autistic.
	I know I bump into people all the time whose children are vaccine damaged, but oh yeah, my son has autism.
	I mean, it's continual.
	So it's an ongoing assault upon us.
	They can't shoot us or stab us or get us to line up to get shot or stabbed.
	But they apparently are able to lie to us and tell us to take some concoction, which we supposedly need to be protected or immunized.
	It's insidious.
	These people are absolutely insidious.
	My own estimate is worldwide.
	I bet the COVID deaths run close to a billion.
	It's going to be a staggering view here.
	And, Rue, you're making a wonderful observation.
	They're killing the native population so they can give their resources, even their homes, to these illegals and these migrants.
	It's just disgusting beyond words.
	Continue.
	Well, you know...
	Many of them aren't necessarily illegal because they're sanctioning it.
	They're refugees.
	They can't really call them illegals anymore because when they come in and they're like, here, come on, welcome.
	Here's a phone.
	Here's a debit card.
	Here's a house.
	Here's how you get in the system.
	So we're conflicted on their journey.
	To that point, if you don't mind, so to that point, I was watching one of these video clips the other day, you know, where they show online, they'll show some conservative guy like Charlie Kirk or Matt Walsh, and they'll be going back and forth with the audience on some point, some issue.
	And there was a young woman, I couldn't really tell, I mean, she looked maybe Arabic type, you know, it's hard to tell exactly her ethnicity.
	And, you know, Charlie Kirk was basically saying, I believe it was Charlie Kirk she was getting into it with.
	And, well, you know, why did you come here then?
	Why don't you go back to where you were or whatever?
	And she actually says, well, I came here because I was paid to come here.
	Right?
	Just boom.
	She just, like, says it.
	I came here because I was paid to come here.
	Yeah.
	So it's like...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So they're not coming here for any love of America.
	They literally stood in these countries and held up a sign saying, hey, want to go to America?
	And they literally just hear, here's a bus ticket, here's a plane ticket, and then sent them on over and then hooked them all up.
	That's what they did.
	You know, even during Trump's first administration, they were flying people.
	They say, oh, well, he was on the border in the first administration.
	But remember, we had those huge caravans that were, oh, we don't know what to do about them.
	They're still coming.
	Or then they were flying people into the interior of the United States using FedEx planes, UPS planes that they put passenger seats in, and were flying them in the middle of the night.
	That was happening during his first administration.
	And that stuff is still happening today.
	It's all unnatural and contrived.
	I'm making this point for probably a decade since I first started calling in.
	But yeah, I mean, right after the first Gulf War, they stuck a bunch of Iraqis in Nebraska, okay?
	You know, for...
	20, 30 years ago, they put a bunch of Somalis in Maine.
	And, of course, they also put the Somalis in Minnesota.
	Two of the whitest states you can imagine, Minnesota and Maine.
	So, in essence, this continues to be what I've always articulated as a racial war.
	I mean, racial biology is extremely important, and these people want us to believe, falsely, that there's no qualitative difference between human beings.
	And that's just an absurd contention.
	Well, when they're, look, when Americans, heritage Americans are dying, whether they be white, Hispanic, or whoever, whoever light up the shots, when they're depopulated, you're not going to necessarily know or notice the difference when they're actually got an influx of people coming in.
	So they're kind of balancing it out.
	Sorry about that, Kim.
	Yeah.
	Wait a second, Mike.
	Hang on.
	Go ahead, Bru.
	Bru, continue.
	Brew, can we continue with you?
	I want a clarification on that last statement you just made, though.
	Yeah, go ahead, Paul.
	Well, I don't know what Brew meant, but it's kind of evening out.
	People didn't know that.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	We're about to close out, and we've got to call.
	If it's one thing people are noticing and have noticed, it's the number of foreigners, and by foreigners I mean non-whites, that have come into this country.
	That's always been the objection to immigration.
	Nobody's ever said, oh, there's too many Swiss, too many Germans, too many English coming in this country.
	That's never been the issue.
	Never.
	I think we may have Brew back.
	Brew, can you hear us?
	Brew.
	You are still on?
	Yeah, you are.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, we're at the end of the show.
	It's 57. So sign out, Jim.
	No, no.
	Brew, if you had a final thought, I know where we are.
	No, that's it.
	I just made a whole statement, whatever.
	Just everyone, just keep an eye out.
	Everyone keep an eye out.
	Find out the real numbers and bring it back to Jim and hopefully we can get some real facts here because we're under an illusion.
	Real pleased with your call, Brew.
	And Paul, just wonderful.
	Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about because we do not know how much time we have left and support Revolution Radio.
	Thank you.
	We're off air now.
	Paul, I think we are.
	I'm having trouble.
	Oh, there we go.
	Paul, I'm going to end it out.
	You are wonderful, Paul.
	I'm still recording here.
	For a final thought, if you'd like to add it, it'll be in the recording.
	Go ahead.
	Well, you know, next time I would like to be able to bring some videos we can play since I know that's one of the things that you always seem to be prepared and have a lot of clips.
	I can bring some clips as well and we could have a...
	A nicely, a crisp...
	My friend, you were excellent today.
	I'm really glad to have you here.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for that.
	Bye-bye, Jim.
	Talk soon.

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