The Raw Deal (21 March 2025) with special guest Timothy Watson
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You know I need someone.
Something's younger than today.
I never need anybody's help in any way.
I want now these days to be gone and I'm not so self-assured.
I'll find a chain of mine.
I hope I love the gold.
you can, I feel that.
I feel that.
I feel that you feel that you're alive and you're alive.
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B, the 21st day of March, 2025.
We have a lot of grim news to report, stories that aren't going to make you feel happy, very threatening, distressful.
Therefore, I thought we could deserve a break, and my featured guest today, Timothy Watson, is going to review the Titanic catastrophe, the sinking of the fabled ship, where among my favorite films is that starring...
Leonardo DiCaprio, about the ill-fated voyage.
Just a wonderful film.
The question one might raise about it, however, does it bear a high degree of correspondence with reality?
In any case, Tim Watson will give us insights based upon his research as to the true story of the Titanic.
Meanwhile, Ukraine...
is continuing its assault on Russia.
They bombed a Russian airfield 435 miles from the front lines where Russia houses nuclear bombers in the largest drone attack ever.
Ukrainian forces, backed by Western munitions and technology, struck a major Russian strategic bomber airfield on Thursday with drones.
435 miles from the Ukrainian front lines.
The strike ignited a massive explosion and sent a huge blast of fire into the air at Ingol's 2 air base in Russia.
Videos posted by Reuters showed a huge blast spreading out from the airfield and wrecking
Well, that's pretty striking.
We know...
That it's virtually impossible that this could have happened without American intelligence.
And of course, Trump has resumed providing Ukraine with intel in the wake of the discussions with Russia, where he wants to force Russia to come to the ceasefire table.
Here's another successful attack being reported by Military Watch.
On a key hub of Russian Tu-160 bomber fleet, the Ukrainian armed forces on March 20th launched a successful strike on Ingalls Air Base.
This is thus the same attack.
Behind Russian lines, footage confirming drones were used to cause a major explosion of the facility.
Here are images of some of the planes.
The Ukrainian attack on Ingalls occurred days after ground units launched a large-scale ground assault on Russia's Belgorod region in nine days after a large-scale drone attack involving 343 was launched against the Russian capital of Moscow.
Now, clearly, Russia cannot stand by and allow these attacks to take place and is going to have to do There's something serious in retaliation.
I don't doubt it.
It's going to happen.
Thus, what do we have here?
Trump pushes Zelensky, and this is just stunning to me, Trump pushes Zelensky to put Ukrainian power plants under U.S. control.
What would that mean if Russia retaliated by taking out the Ukrainian Power plants, he'd be attacking the United States.
That's what it means.
This is a horrendous idea coming from a guy who claimed he was going to bring his peace into Ukraine.
He could do it in 24 hours and, of course, resolve the issues in the Middle East.
None of it's happening.
He appears to be pursuing a warful or war-causing or war-expanding policy with great zeal.
And enthusiasm suggested part of a phone call in which Zelensky accepted Russia's offer for a mutual pause in attacks on energy targets for 30 days, which of course has not happened.
Really bad.
Meanwhile, the U.S. is also attacking the Houthis in Yemen.
These are the most Resilient fighting forces in the world today.
I have great admiration.
They are so robust.
I do not believe this is going to thwart their efforts.
Remember, Yemen is the only nation to have declared war on Israel.
Everything they're doing is consistent with the laws of war, international accords, Geneva Convention, UN Charter, and the like.
Not so.
For the attacks on the Houthis by the United States, which isn't threatened by the Houthis in any way, shape, or form, except now.
Of course, because the U.S. is attacking, they can respond by attacking American targets, including a lot of bases and even a carrier group, the USS Harry S. Truman.
More U.S. airstrikes hit Yemen as Houthis fire missiles at Israel.
The U.S. continued its daily bombing of Yemen Thursday as the Houthis fired more missiles at Israeli territory.
Yemen's Saba News Agency reported four U.S. airstrikes in the Hodei province.
Located on the Red Sea.
It's unclear if there were any casualties in the latest U.S. strike.
A day earlier, U.S. strikes in a residential area in the Yemeni capital of Sinai, reportedly wounding seven women and two children.
Remember how Trump has said he wants to bring an end to the war in Ukraine because innocent men, women, and children are being killed.
He doesn't seem to apply the same principle to Yemen, much less to Gaza.
And all of his threats against Iran, of course, are directly contradictory because massive numbers of innocent men, women, and children would die.
Thus, more airstrikes hit Yemen as Houthis fire missiles at Iran.
The Houthis have the ability.
It had fired missiles at Iran.
The U.S. continued its daily bombing of Yemen Thursday as the Houthis fired more missiles at Israeli territory.
Yemen's SAP News Agency reported the strikes where a day earlier we'd reported on that.
The U.S. air strikes were reported around the same time.
The Israeli military said it had intercepted a missile launch from Yemen.
Houthi attack within a day.
It's not going to end.
And yet, the Houthis have been very principled.
They've explained that if Israel would allow humanitarian aid to reach the Palestinians, they'd cease their attacks.
And they have done so in the past, when Israel allowed aid to go through, but now they blocked it, and the Houthis are back in force.
The real reason Trump is bombing Yemen, this is from Mondo Weiss, simply excellent journal reporting on Middle East events.
Just two days before Israel resumed a full-scale genocide in the Gaza Strip, the United States began a bombing campaign in Yemen.
U.S. aggression is a significant part of the recipe for endless war and devastation of the Middle East.
That Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump are cooking up.
Yes, they seem to be implementing it very aggressively.
While Israel and the US clearly communicated about these operations, each country has presented its actions as though they were independent of, but cooperative with the other.
This is partially an attempt to obscure the reality That Israel cannot pursue its relentless genocide in Gaza without the material support it comes from the United States.
Indeed, in both Ukraine and in Gaza, it would be very simple to bring an end by simply cutting off U.S. support.
Notice, when that happened in Ukraine for a couple of days, to induce Zelensky to accept a ceasefire proposal, the Russians...
Maintained a very aggressive stance, inflicted serious damage.
Ukraine could not sustain the fight without U.S. assistance and intel.
U.S. attention is not focused on Gaza, but on Yemen, allowing Netanyahu to resume its full-scale genocide, to which Trump is indifferent, actually.
He's fully supportive.
Yet while Trump can't fantasize, All he wants about lounging repulsively on Gaza's beach with Netanyahu.
That's, you know, turning Gaza into the Riviera of the Mediterranean.
That's an absurd fantasy rejected by all sides, except perhaps in the minds of Trump and Netanyahu.
There are American businesses with a stake in preventing the Houthis from acting in defense of and in solidarity with the The Palestinians.
In the bigger picture, it is, as always, about Iran.
It's not a coincidence that the attacks first on Yemen and then on Gaza came in the wake of Trump sending a letter in early March to Iran's supreme leader calling for new talks on a nuclear deal.
On Wednesday, it was reported that in the letter...
Trump gave Iran a two-month deadline to reach a new deal.
Iran has already declared they're not going to be threatened and mullied into new talks.
The statement came in response that Trump's threatening war of Iran did not come across.
And this is part of what I find so appalling about Trump's foreign policy.
It's all thuggery.
It's all brutal.
It's all threats.
None of it...
It involves any real serious degree of diplomacy or any tact or any subtlety, but all just brutality.
Meanwhile, the limitations of US Naval Air Defense will force the US to withdraw from the Red Sea.
Remember now, the Houthis can attack shipping in the Red Sea.
Here's Sonar 21 explaining why this is going to require the US to withdraw.
The Trump admin wrongly accuses the wretched Biden team of going soft on Yemen during the last 15 months of its administration.
Biden deployed two separate carrier groups to the Red Sea, but was compelled to withdraw them when they ran out of ammunition for their MK-41 vertical launching system.
The MK-41 is a modular multi-mission missile launcher widely used by naval forces worldwide.
Here are some of its features.
It allows for so-called versatile support of multiple mission areas.
Including anti-aircraft, anti-service, anti-sub, ballistic, missile defense, and land attacks.
Now, while we have forces there, the problem is the U.S. does not have an unlimited supply of these missiles.
As of 2018, the Missile Defense Agency had acquired around 336 of all times, with most of them assigned to the navies.
BMT-capable ship deployed across four combat commands.
This limited inventory suggests that each destroyer likely carries a portion of the total missile capacity.
The standard missile is designed to intercept and destroy short-to-intermediate-range ballistic missiles, in other words, as a defensive measure.
If the Navy fires two, And every ballistic missile fired by the Houthis, the U.S. inventory will be readily depleted and they'll be forced to withdraw from the sea to reload.
And it's going to happen.
And it's going to happen fast.
Meanwhile, thousands are protesting in Tel Aviv after Netanyahu resumes the bombing of Gaza.
There are lots of Israelis who don't like it, who are speaking out about it, and one wonders whether Netanyahu won't employ the same...
It's commendable that that should be taking place.
Meanwhile, the White House, get this, appalling.
Trump fully supports Israel's Gaza slaughter.
White House West Secretary Carolyn Levitt said Thursday, President Trump fully supports Israel's Renewed massive bombing campaign in Gaza, which has killed at least 200 children since Tuesday,
just since Tuesday.
The president made it very clear to Hamas that if they did not release all of the hostages, then there would be hell to pay.
Unfortunately, Hamas chose to play games in the media with lives.
As though the ongoing slaughter were in a massive violation of human rights, of the UN Charter, of international law, of the Geneva Convention.
They make it out as though Hamas were the bad guy.
When Israel is committing the vicious slaughter, a genocide with the support of the United States, and it appears Trump is enthusiastic about it.
The US and Israel are blaming Hamas.
For lack of a continued ceasefire and hostage release.
But it was Israel that repeatedly violated the deal signed in January, which would have led to a release of all Israeli captains, a permanent truce, and Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.
Yes, exactly.
Here's more about it.
Namely, that...
Israel is responsible for what's taking place here, not Hamas.
And it's not a surprise that it's taking place because Israel doesn't want a piece to take place at all.
And the fact that Trump is supporting this is, to me, a shame and embarrassment.
It's very contrary to the principles for which this nation is supposed to stand.
I'm very disappointed about it.
Here, Haaretz, which is a major newspaper in Israel, one of the largest, Haaretz, Israel, not Hamas, is responsible for derailing the Gaza Seed fire and preventing the hostages' return.
Prime Minister Nanyahu paid the asking price for Tamar Ben-Gurv's return to government in advance.
Not out of his own pocket, of course, but with the blood of the 59 hostages whose fate could be sealed by the resumption of the war, which has already sealed the fate of hundreds of Palestinians, including women and children.
On Tuesday, Eliah Cohen, who was freed from Hamas' captivity, According to a statement released by Netanyahu's office,
the decision to strike Gaza was made with Defense Minister Israel Katz after Hamas.
Hamas' repeated refusal to release the hostages, as well as its rejection of all the proposals it received from U.S. presidential envoy Steve Witkoff from the mediators.
But it must be said, loudly and clearly, that this is a lie.
It was Israel, not Hamas, that violated the agreement.
On its 16th day, the parties were supposed to begin discussing the second phase, which was supposed to end with the release of all the remaining hostages.
Israel refused.
Israel also broke its promise to withdraw from the Philadelphia corridor between the 42nd and the 50th day of the ceasefire.
Moreover, Israel announced it was halting the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza.
And closing the border crossings.
This decision, like the energy minister's decision to halt a limited amount of electricity, Israel provides to Gaza, which, by the way, makes it impossible to continue their desolidization program to have potable,
drinkable water, meaning they're not only starving the Gazans, they're even depriving them of water.
It explicitly violates Israel's commitment in the agreement that they will continue entering as long as talks on the second stage are ongoing.
They don't want a peace.
They want the slaughter to continue.
And it really is unsurprising that that is taking place.
What's embarrassing is that Donald Trump is supporting it.
Meanwhile... Iran is in the crosshairs where Trump has now given Iran two months to reach a deal in a letter to the Supreme Leader.
Axios reported Wednesday Donald Trump gave Iran a two-month headline to reach a deal on its civilian nuclear program in a letter sent to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
The report.
Which cited two sources briefed on the letter, said it was unclear if the countdown to the deadline began when the letter was delivered or if it would start at the beginning of negotiations.
But U.S.-Iran talks are unlikely, as Iranian leaders have rejected negotiating in response to President Trump's so-called maximum pressure campaign.
They're not going to respond to threats.
They're going to respond to thuggery, and yet that is Trump's foreign policy.
That's how he conducts business.
You can see it in his dealing with Russia.
You can see it in his dealings with the Houthis in Yemen.
You can see it in his dealings with Hamas in Gaza.
And again, you can see it in his dealings with Iran.
The news of Trump's deadline for Iran came as a president's warning.
He will blame Iran for attacks launched by the Houthis, even though it's widely believed the Yemeni group acts independently and wouldn't take orders from Tehran, a fact that's been acknowledged by U.S. officials.
Khamenei rejected Trump's letter when Iran received it last week, calling it a deception, meant to make it seem like the U.S. was a reasonable party.
And that Iran was rejecting negotiations for no reason.
That is exactly right.
Meanwhile, we have a report about the Iran war plan.
President Trump's menu of options for dealing with Iran includes what he didn't have in his first term, full-scale war.
Pentagon and company contracting documents I've obtained describe a unique joint staff planning effort underway in Washington and in the Middle East to refine the next generation of a major regional conflict with a brand.
The new planning effort, sometimes referred to as a seed project, covers everything from subtle tools like military deception right up to the rather less subtle use of nuclear weapons.
The plans are the result of a reassessment of Iran's military capabilities, as well as a fundamental shift in how America conducts war.
Though many in the media incorrectly dismissed the recent U.S. attacks on the Houthis as little more than a continuation of the Biden admin, what they were already doing, the new Iran war preparation made clear the U.S. is exploring a far more aggressive approach.
Following his successful assassination of Iran's top General Qasim Soleimani in 2020, which I regard as an unforgivable act, it was perfidy.
The U.S. had lured him to Iraq, claiming his involvement was needed for a peace deal, and then took him out with a drone, violating Iraq's sovereignty, but compromising principles of diplomacy.
A disgusting act, which the world reviles.
Donald Trump seemed to have taken the lesson that aggressive action is relatively cost-free.
I'm very, very troubled by what this could signal.
In the meanwhile, let me welcome my guest today, Timothy Watson, who is here, and where, as I explained, we're going to get a...
A rest, but a break from all of the travesty of world affairs by taking a look at the Titanic and what really happened there.
But Timothy, you are here.
If you have any comments on these international developments, they would be welcome.
Yeah, it's fascinating what you've been saying.
And I'm in no doubt that...
Every word you have said is correct, and Trump is absolutely unjustifiably supporting not only genocide in the Middle East orchestrated by Israel,
but he's fully backing the regime's attempt to create the Greater Israel Project.
Yes. Yes.
And it doesn't just confine itself to the Middle East.
Ukraine is actually part of the Greater Israel Project.
It's Israel North.
Timothy, I think you're exactly right.
When we return, we'll welcome your review of what happened to Titanic.
I'm going to make you host now.
Okay. I hope I can...
Get this document.
It's a little tricky here on this laptop because of this.
Every time I get the document and I go back onto your screen, it drops and I have to try and retrieve it.
Thank you.
you.
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Tim, I mentioned during my introduction to the show today how Titanic, the film with Leonardo DiCaprio, is among my favorite movies of all time, but that it may bear significant discrepancies in relation to the reality of the situation.
Here we're looking at the Carpathia, which eventually came to save those who survived, which were very few in number.
You go right ahead, Timothy.
Take us through everything you've discovered in your research.
Okay. So, yeah, Captain Lord was in charge of the Carpathia and he was supposed to arrive on time to save the passengers and he had a full complement of lifeboats to support those that were actually absent.
On the ocean liner itself.
And it wasn't Titanic.
It was the Olympic.
And this was all a staged event.
And they anticipated everything that happened.
And that's why Captain Lord, who had been tested in several emergency drill exercises and found to be the most capable captain known for responding to emergency situations with great He was selected as the captain of choice and his ship was to arrive on time and the signal for
him to arrive on time was supposed to be colored signal rockets sent up which his crew was to notify him of directly so that he could give the order to go full steam ahead to get to the A rescue operation in time.
Timothy, we're due to back up because I think many of the viewers are going to be blown away.
You're talking about the event not having been an accident, but that it was actually planned.
You're talking about the ship not actually have been the Titanic, but its sister ship, the Olympic.
You're talking about the Carpathia.
Officially planned to have been there in time to save all the passengers.
That all requires a lot of unpacking because that's going to come as stunning news to most of the audience.
Please do review the bidding here, my friend.
Yeah, I mean, there was a plan orchestrated by J.P. Morgan, the Vatican banker, okay?
Understand this.
He was working for the Jesuit order.
Which is the military wing of the Vatican, and they controlled the White Star shipping line.
They owned it.
And the sister ship Olympic and Titanic were identical twins.
They had been refashioning the Olympic to make it look more like Titanic just prior to the launch of...
The ship that was posing as Titanic on its maiden voyage.
It was not Titanic.
It never was.
It was the Olympic.
They swapped the ships.
And when did the swap take place?
April Fool's Day.
April 1st.
I'm not kidding you.
That is the reality.
They swapped the ships on April 1st.
And this is the kind of scheming that the Luciferian cabal, the Luciferian elite that controls the world, They love their dates.
They love their numbers.
They love numerology.
They love all that stuff.
They go for it all the time with their operations.
And, you know, there was a military exercise, a joint military exercise involving the U.S. and U.K. navies within the vicinity of the Grand Banks, not far from where the...
Tragedy took place.
And as you and I have done our research over the years, we've found that oftentimes when there's a major event involving terrorism or some kind of a disaster,
there's often a simultaneous emergency exercise taking place in the vicinity, which acts as a cover for Covert operations to take place that facilitate the disaster itself,
9-11 being a prime example in our current era.
You might want to back up to the extent of explaining how they had two ships.
They were very, very similar, though there were some features of the superstructure that distinguished between them.
But that the Olympic was involved in a collision with a naval vessel that actually distorted its keel and was not regarded as seaworthy and therefore would have been very difficult to insure.
And if White Star Line couldn't insure the ship, they couldn't use the ship.
So they had to design a plan for how to...
Scuttle the Olympic and collect insurance for it and salvage the situation financially for themselves, given this accident it happened vis-a-vis the collision.
And they did that by swapping out the Olympic and posing it as Titanic.
You have a lot of slides here, Tim.
Would you like to go through?
I'll bet you have some that substantiate what I'm just saying.
Yes, absolutely, I do.
I can't just go through them in that type of logical sequence.
I'm just going to have to show the slides I'm able to and get to the evidence that supports the claims that you've just been making.
I'll get to that, certainly.
That's just fine, Demet.
Go right ahead.
Okay, now, Captain Smith.
He was the Commodore of the White Star shipping line, which means he was the highest-ranking captain in the fleet.
And how he got that distinction is a miracle.
I just can't imagine.
He was involved in some 20 seagoing accidents.
And I would say not accidents, but more like incidents staged, it would seem.
And I think that the Jesuit order was basically getting rid of unwanted cargo at sea.
And that's a metaphor for performing assassinations or murder.
At sea.
And so where there would be few witnesses and you'd have the Official Secrets Act there to just enforce silence on these matters so that a proper investigation could never unearth the truth regarding these various episodes.
If a mariner has a seagoing accident for which some responsibility must be assumed by the mariner himself, usually his sea license is revoked immediately.
That is a kind of protocol because the insurance companies take issue with a navigator with a poor record being in charge of a vessel because it's...
You know, not a very secure situation for the insurance companies.
And so they made that very much a protocol.
And for some reason, he was protected.
And I would assume it was because the Jesuit order owned the White Star shipping line and he was...
A Jesuit coadjutor and a Jesuit of the short robe, which basically means that though civilian he was working for the Jesuit order, he was basically considered a Jesuit.
And I would imagine the reason that he was promoted to Commodore of the Fleet was because of his Strong Jesuit connections and the fact that he'd served the Order in numerous missions,
which, though damaging to his own seagoing record, was extremely gratifying for him in terms of his relationship with the Jesuit Order,
who... Artificially raised him in the ranks undeservedly from a standpoint of performance, but because he was a good performer as an agent of the Jesuit order,
up the ranks he went.
Very good.
Yeah. I could...
You can go through the list of various seagoing incidents that he was involved with, but it's a long list.
Yes. One of them happened off Sandy Hook, which is a name that's living in infamy now because of a school shooting, but it's a sea-related name.
And it was a shipping accident that happened involving Captain Smith.
I think the general public has been hoodwinked into believing that he was a very capable mariner and a very honorable and decent fellow and so forth.
And I would strongly advise anyone paying attention.
To this program that they go and inspect that for themselves and they'll find, far from being respectable and honorable, he was downright criminal in his conduct.
He was a close associate of J.P. Morgan and since J.P. Morgan is the one that orchestrated this whole thing with the shipping...
Fraud involving the swapping of the two ships for insurance fraud purposes so that he could reclaim the losses of the construction costs and the repairs, the repair costs at the Belfast shipyard involving Olympic.
All of this was orchestrated in order to recover losses and get the insurance payout.
And he was, you know, Smith meeting with J.P. Morgan very often whenever he was in court.
So I imagine JP Morgan kept him abreast of every step of the plan as it was in development until the day of the launch.
The fellow they cast in the film, of course, bore a very strong physical resemblance to the real Captain.
Fascinating. He was supposed to have perished in the sinking of the ship called Titanic, but really Olympic posing as Titanic.
He was supposed to have succumbed.
I have, from my research, come to the conclusion that he survived, that he swam to a lifeboat and managed to be rescued, and he came ashore with the survivors,
once having been taken on board the Carpathia and sent to New York.
And there was a Story related to him being identified by a fellow crew member who met him by chance.
I believe it was in Baltimore.
And there was some tension.
Involved in the encounter because Smith did not want to be identified and this guy was almost relentless in pursuing him, having seen someone who so closely resembled the sea captain of his former acquaintance.
And at this point, Smith was in poor health and Behaving like a vagrant and he was taken into custody by police and he went by the name Silent Smith and
he was identified as a mariner because of the tattoos that he had on his It was concluded in the end that it was actually the sea captain of so-called Titanic.
I have slides about that later on in the presentation.
I hope I can get to it.
Thank you.
The Californian.
Yes. It also came, but...
Or was it too far away to reach in time?
Yes, that's right.
And it was a sad state of affairs because those people that were not able to board lifeboats...
perished because of hypothermia and were found dead when the rescue ships arrived.
you.
Here's a picture of the Titanic's boats being lowered from the Carpathia in New York.
You want to realize that There was a complete media blackout.
The media were prevented by the NYPD from interviewing any of the passengers or crew when they arrived in New York.
We had something similar to that with the Sandy Hook school shooting, did we not, Jim?
Yes. A complete restriction on any interviewing by reporters at the scene, right?
Yes. Wayne Carver even asserted that the parents weren't even allowed to see the bodies of their children who were identified on the basis of photographs, which turns out to have been appropriate because most of them only existed in the form of photographs.
It, like Titanic, was an elaborate scam.
In that case, a FEMA drill presented as mass murder to promote gun control.
Absolutely. With extensive photographs of crew members like this shot here, because that's what these secret societies do when they orchestrate a mass murder event such as this.
They photograph or document everything in advance.
We saw with the JFK assassination, the 33-degree Freemason.
Abraham Zabruder had the famous Zabruder film shot on his camera, for example.
They do this as part of the whole operation.
They always record what they do.
Thank you.
These are Some of the church officials, Jesuit order members that were involved in the operation.
It is featuring the Bishop of Coyne, Robert Brown, Francis Brown, and Brown spent a day and a night in the DAS ship capturing
the last moments of the targeted first-class passengers as well as the Dublin Provincial Jesuits' temporal juadjutors required for martyrdom,
including Captain Edward Smith, First Officer Murdoch, and Chief Purser.
McElroy. Now, Timothy, you're suggesting, however, that Camparthia should have arrived on time and saved them all, right?
There were no planned deaths that were supposed to occur according to the official script.
Yeah, everything went awry, as often does with these covert operations and the rescue ship, which had the proper complement of lifeboats to save those.
Passengers just didn't arrive on time.
And the reason was he didn't see the colored signal rockets, ostensibly because the colored signal rockets could not be seen because of the curvature of the Earth.
It was just too far away.
It was out of range.
And so white signal rockets were seen, but not colored signal rockets.
So the signal Captain Lord was supposed to act on was never received at his end.
Thus, he could not give the order to full
ahead to the rescue of the ship because he had never received the proper signal.
So, Bishop Robert Brown...
William Brown and Francis Brown all featured here in this photograph.
That was Titanic putting out to sea.
Really Olympic, of course, but swapped out as Titanic.
Was it not?
Yes. Yes, indeed it was.
And here you have some of the lifeboats shown in another course.
They're supposed to be Titanic lifeboats.
They're, in fact, Olympic lifeboats.
Was the name Olympic on the lifeboats?
No, but we know from some clues regarding the paint that they were, in fact, Olympic lifeboats and not Titanic.
I've seen an underwater exploration going down to the wreckage and peeling off the name Titanic from the back, the keel of the ship, to reveal Olympic beneath it.
I mean, there's a lot of converging evidence substantiating everything you're reporting here, Timothy.
Yeah, Robert Ballard's exploration sub, he's a U.S. Naval Intelligence former U.S. Naval Intelligence officer, and he did He explored the wreck and photographed it extensively and found that the bulkheads matched the design blueprints of Olympic and
not Titanic based on his documentary evidence, having explored the wreck himself.
Yes. Titanic, so-called Titanic, survivors disembarking from Carpathia, featured here in this photograph.
Yes. Well, they were the two side by side.
So which is Titanic and which is Olympic?
Can you tell the difference?
Only Olympic ever had this overhanging bridge wing feature shown here.
not Titanic.
After the HMS Hawk collision took place, damaging the Olympic irreparably.
Only cosmetic repairs could be made to make it appear seaworthy, but really the ship was badly crippled.
The damage to the Olympic was quickly assessed, and it was determined that all three standard manganese bronze propeller blades were damaged beyond repair.
The starboard propeller boss armed plating has been twisted and fractured.
The propeller shaft was bent out of alignment and rendered inoperable.
11 hull plates were damaged above
water line.
Eight of which had to be replaced.
And there was a hull breach of seven feet within a 12 to 15 foot pear-shaped hole rising from the waterline to D-deck.
And a gash 40 feet wide was incurred below the waterline.
The ship's frame was also bent out of alignment and thousands of her hydraulically fitted rivets were no longer watertight.
Timothy, we've come to a break.
Fascinating stuff.
We'll continue with Timothy Watson on the Great Swindle, the swapping out of Titanic for Olympic right after this break.
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Okay, Jim, are we good?
With my guest, Timothy Watson, talking about swapping out Titanic for Olympic in order to recover insurance.
Timothy, you know, given the condition of the Olympic, it sounded as though it wasn't really seaworthy.
I mean, was there a challenge in even getting it out into the Atlantic?
And was then the collision with the iceberg by design, was that intentional?
There was several elements of sabotage that are not in the official story.
There was an explosion in a coal bunker near the bow below the water line before the ship set sail, and Captain Smith ordered...
The ship to proceed and had a series of fire brigade operatives brought on board to put out the fire at sea.
With all the, you know, fire...
Fighting equipment in port, it was an irresponsible move.
They could have done it far more efficiently had it still been docked and the fire put out before the ship was set into motion.
It was because he apparently had been
record-setting sea crossing across the Atlantic because the White Star Line was competing with the Canard Line and wanted to show that
their squad of ships was capable of making the sea crossing as fast as their rival shipping.
But at any rate, I believe that this coal bunker explosion was not an accident involving just simply a coal-related explosion.
I think gelignite was planted inside of the coal causing the explosion.
And that is an old ploy going back to the American Civil War where they would plant gel ignite inside a piece of coal and call it a coal bunker explosion when it was actually a covert military attack by the enemy.
Fascinating. Now, there were several Chinese passengers that history ignored for a century until a Chinese journalist dug up the six passengers.
It's a little bit uncertain whether it was six or eight passengers.
The exact count is in dispute.
But let's just say these Chinese passengers were...
Small number of passengers, six or so, and they were on board and they were in a lifeboat, the same lifeboat that just happened to have Bruce Ishmael in it.
Now, Bruce Ishmael was the owner of Titanic.
He was on the ship.
And he managed to gain access to a lifeboat.
Now, you want to consider this, Jim.
John Astor, Isidore Strauss, and Benjamin Guggenheim were also on board Titanic, but Captain Smith and Murdoch held revolvers in their hand and pointed the revolvers directly at these passengers and said,
Back away, back away, women and children first.
You're not getting on those boats.
Now, given that these three men, two of them were U.S. congressmen and one of them was a prominent U.S. official and they were all staunch opponents of the Aldrich bill presented by Senator Aldrich to See that the Federal Reserve banking bill went through and
they were staunch opponents of the banking bill that would create the Federal Reserve.
And they were prevented from boarding lifeboats and all three of them perished on the shipping disaster.
Now, as for John Astor, his body was recovered by Newfoundlander fishermen, salvage operators, presumably, and they found his body lacerated with wounds.
Really? Yeah.
I believe, and it's been suggested, that he was shanked by a crew member.
Because he was trying to bribe his way onto a lifeboat and this crew member was bribed and he wasn't having it so he just shanked him.
Repeated stab wounds and it was said that there were shrapnel injuries from the chimney exploding on board the ship and that's a completely fabricated story.
No, I believe he was...
He was stabbed to death.
Very interesting.
Yeah. Now, there were 53 cancellations before the ship set sail, including J.P. Morgan.
who can't
Very many of them were Freemasons, higher degree Freemasons.
As so often happens with these events, a certain number of individuals are warned in advance.
We saw this with the OK bomb, with the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma being bombed.
The Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm Bureau officials were warned not to go to work that day.
They had an office in the Oklahoma Federal Building.
And there's reports about certain people in the World Trade Center being warned not to go to work the day of the event.
The infamous day, September 11th.
So 53 people received prior warning and didn't board.
Sorry, 55 cancellations.
So those who didn't disembark were from a rival faction who were supposed to Attend a meeting in New York for the founding of the League of Nations.
So you had the Illuminati-backed Luciferian contingent, which would include people like the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, etc., etc., and you had this rival faction.
So these were the Titans and the Olympians.
The gods, and it was a war between the gods, and the ships are symbolic of this, the Olympic versus the Titanic.
Now, keep in mind that Morgan Robertson, a Jesuit priest, wrote a book called Fidelity, 14 years before the shipping disaster, and the weight and tonnage of the ship, the length of the ship was...
Pretty much identical to Titanic.
The only difference was he called his ship the Titan in the fictional version.
But since the White Star Line routinely added a suffix IC to all of their ships, it may as well have been Titanic, even the fictional version in his book.
And of course, what happens?
It hit an iceberg and sank.
And so that was a cover story that was actually rehearsed in fiction 14 years before the disaster.
I think the ship was sabotaged long before the actual collision took place with the iceberg.
I think that...
Really, the collision with the iceberg was a staged event to make it look like the iceberg was the culprit.
There is a witness named Vitigilo, an Italian passenger who witnessed a ship ram Titanic in the middle of the night.
That ship is called Sirius, named after the dog star Sirius.
And I am quite serious.
Yeah, Sirius is the name of the ship that rammed Titanic and it had a rammer for attacking enemy ships.
And, well, it used it on Titanic and that's where the damage to the hull came from, not from the collision with the iceberg.
The iceberg is just a cover story.
Wow, that's fascinating.
Yeah, Vertigio, he actually had an affidavit written out to the effect of what he witnessed on board.
So what do we have here?
Notice the damage sustained by the propellers.
This is the back of the keel of the ship?
That's due to the collision with HMS Hawk.
The damage to the HMS Hawk.
With the RAM clearly still intact, there you go.
But wasn't that actually an accident, or was that on purpose?
I mean, was White Star out to destroy the Olympic using the Hawk, or did that simply happen inadvertently?
There is actually no evidence to show premeditation, but would you be surprised with these Luciferians?
They're so pernicious, they would do something just as diabolical as planned the whole thing in order to...
Well, why would they do it?
To... Yeah, I mean,
absent the interaction with the Hawk, there would have been no reason to worry about the insurability of the Olympic.
It would have been just as solid a ship as Titanic.
Well, I'm not actually sure that's the case, Jim, because there was...
Two other accidents, or shall I call them incidents, involving Captain Smith in charge of Olympic.
And one of those accidents happened in New York Harbor some months before.
So it may have sustained crippling damage from those two seagoing accidents.
So perhaps this one was staged in order to explain the extent, the severity of the crippling injuries the ship had sustained.
I don't know.
Wow. There doesn't seem to be a lot of competence here.
It's very, very disturbing, Timothy.
yes indeed
Oh, this is where the collision occurred, eh?
Yes. So you can see the Isle of Wight.
You can see that it's near the Port of Southampton where this incident had occurred.
The cruiser HMS Hawk had already passed Egypt Point about four miles from Olympic.
She was rapidly reducing the distance between herself and Olympic and it appeared that both vessels were attempting to enter the same stretch of water and there was obviously not enough space for both in the narrow channel.
Commander William Blunt Master of HMS Hawk adjusted his position by five degrees to give Olympic a little more breathing space, but the two ships were by now almost abreast,
traveling at 16 knots.
Wow. Olympic tried to accelerate even harder to pull clear of danger, but as Hawk dropped back towards the rear of the liner, As the larger vessel eased ahead again,
the suction and pull of Olympic's propeller blades came into play.
HMS Hawk was rapidly heading portwards towards disaster, and so Commander Blunt ordered the port engine stopped and full astern on the starboard side engine.
it was all too little too late
smashed into the olympic side its underwater battering ram
Wow. A Royal Navy inquiry into the incident on September 22,
1911 not surprisingly found the pilot of the Olympic and therefore the White Star Line culpable for the accident despite much evidence pointing to the Hawks helmsman bearing most of the blame and this in effect meant that the White Star Line's insurance was null and void and the company would therefore be liable to pay all
the costs of the repairs of
ships. Thank you.
The two ships were made to take on one another's profile appearances, that being Titanic and Olympic, literally swapping identities in terms of looks.
While it's true that the ships are sometimes fitted to closely resemble their sister ships, one wonders why this wasn't done at the construction phase.
A shrewd mind and discerning researcher would also ask why now, just before Titanic's transatlantic so-called maiden voyage to New York,
the location of the future UN headquarters that would replace the League of Nations with certain influential members on board that did not share the same vision of world government
as the Rockefeller-backed counterparts.
Keep in mind that some of these The Illuminati Luciferian bankers were working for the Jesuit order.
J.P. Morgan, certainly, yes, he was a Jesuit.
Now, strangely, surprisingly, the Rothschilds were also Jesuit bankers.
Now, in my view, Jim, they're not Jews.
They're Kazarian.
I presume they're Ashkenazi Jews.
I believe they're conversos.
They were basically Kazarian and they converted to Judaism to hide the fact that they were Baal worshippers.
For Baal, you can substitute Moloch.
You can substitute Lucifer, if you like.
They venerated and worshipped the fallen angel.
They were devil worshippers.
You know, the Rothschilds.
Oops. We seem to have lost Timothy.
Hopefully he'll be reconnecting.
That's absolutely fascinating stuff.
I was aware of the swapping out of the ships based on the earlier research.
Underwater team going down, revealing that the name Olympic was beneath Titanic and so forth, and this difference in the superstructure.
The circumstances of the collision with the HMS Hawk was unclear.
I did not know those details, nor that the Hawk was designed To damage ships so that when they had the collision, it did the damage to the ship.
It was designed to do, even though that was, by all intents, an accident.
And indeed, it wouldn't make any sense to do that deliberately if you had a sound ship in the Olympic.
It's because the accident made a sound ship no longer Fully seaworthy and insurable that they had to go to all the Trump Hall to swap out Olympic and Titanic.
Welcome back, Timothy.
Welcome back.
Can you resume?
Yeah, very sorry, Jim.
I just got a problem with the...
The battery.
When you hand over a computer to someone, you don't always know what the situation is.
My daughter gave me the computer, but the battery was lower than I thought.
You got it plugged in, I presume.
Yeah, I just got it plugged in, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so to say some more about the Rothschilds, they...
Their real name was Bauer.
Meyer Amschel Bauer changed his name to Rothschild.
Why? Because Rothschild, Red Shield, is what it means.
A Red Shield design was on the accounting office door in Frankfurt to his business.
And it was a six-pointed hexagram star.
And what did it represent?
But in geometrical terms, it represented the number of the beast because it had six points, six sides, and six triangles.
There you go.
I don't need to tell you more.
You can guess why the geometric shape is significant.
And it was red.
Therefore... Red Shield.
Now, it's called the Star of David.
It's called the Seal of Solomon.
It's called many things.
I call it a satanic symbol.
I'm making you a host again, Timothy, so you can do the screen share and resume your PowerPoint.
Okay. Hopefully.
Got a problem with that.
I can't find it.
Okay, that's okay.
Just keep talking.
Just keep talking about the play out, the consequences.
How did you become interested in this issue?
I suspected that the iceberg story was just a cover and I read a book when I was in Korea.
I was a professor in Korea for 11 years and I had a Korean colleague that was reading a book and it quite interested me.
She was translating it into Korean.
That was her project and she told me a little bit about it.
So I read it myself and I found the argument presented sold me on the fact that the Titanic was actually sabotaged and that There was some untoward incidents that took place before she even set sail.
And that, to me, told me something very fishy was going on.
And so I am later...
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I repeat the call in number 608-957-8727 to speak with Timothy Watson or myself about Titanic.
Timothy, I've just gone to the Wikipedia page where we read, RMS Titanic was a British ocean liner that sank in the early hours of 15 April 1912.
As a result of striking an iceberg on her maiden voyage from Southampton, England, to New York City.
It was the second time White Star Line had lost a ship on its maiden voyage, the first being the RMS Taylor in 1854.
Of the estimated 2,224 passengers and crew aboard, approximately 1,500 died, making the incident.
One of the deadliest peacetime sinkings of a single ship.
Needless to say, we don't have here an accurate recounting of what happened, which is simply a reflection that even what are regarded as highly reliable sources can turn out have stories that are more fiction than fact.
Seriously, a flawed account of what took place.
And I, you know, would not trust any information put on here by Wikipedia on any subject under the sun.
I wouldn't trust them as far as I could trip them.
Yeah, I've had my encounters.
It's remarkable.
When you become a graduate student, you learn that you can only rely upon original sources.
Wikipedias choose original sources.
They only allow you to cite secondary.
And the reason is obvious.
Secondary sources can vary widely in their interpretation of the facts.
So they pick the secondary sources and present the view they like, I found.
Wikipedia would be a Zionist operation.
When I sought to correct them about matters where I was the leading authority in the world, such as the History of Scholars for 9 /11 Truth, which I founded in December of 2005, they would not allow me to correct the record,
even though I was the most authoritative possible source.
So their claim, you know, that it's self-correcting because they've had individual users.
Who are more informed than those who have had their views previously recorded?
It's simply a fantasy.
It's false.
On any politically controversial issue, it's a psyop.
Just as I did a conference in 2014 on the campus at the University of Illinois on academic freedom, raising the question, are there limits to inquiry?
Using JFK 9-11 and the Holocaust as examples, and after, my entry was gutted because here I was presenting evidence that the whole story about these death camps was false,
that they were actually labor camps that the International Committee of the Red Cross had kept copious, detailed.
Records about every inmate who had died, including their age, their sex, their ethnicity, their religion, and their cause of death.
Recalibrating their figures in 1993, a total of 296,081, none, none, zero of whom had died from being put to death in gas chambers.
They didn't like that.
And now today, while it's...
What has survived or is now in place is largely accurate.
They have a discrediting sentence in an opening paragraph, a fantastic claim about non-belief in the existence of Flight 93. I mean, it's something that's designed to be off-putting immediately.
And even though I've sought to correct it repeatedly every time I have been rebuffed, because they want to, you know, make...
me out to be a loon about 9-11, as well as, of course, other subjects.
I'm very happy with what you've been presenting here today, Timothy.
I think it's very important for us to know the truth about these events, which have been very consequential, you know, in recent history of the West and indeed of the planet entire.
Yeah, I wanted to say that one of my other sources was John Hamer, who wrote RMS Olympic, and he did a very good job of researching this whole shipping swap episode.
It was from him that I learned about all the seagoing accidents that Captain Smith had been involved in prior to the so-called Titanic disaster.
And I wasn't a bit surprised.
I just guessed that he was involved somehow.
My own independent research had confirmed that he was a Jesuit.
That was all I needed to know because the Jesuit order controlled the White Star shipping line.
And as I say, Jim, I think that they were dispensing of unwanted cargo at sea and under the Official Secrets Act, all aboard were sworn to secrecy regarding all of these incidents.
And they got away.
The Jesuit order got away with murder in each and every case.
And Captain Smith was involved in many of these so-called seagoing incidents.
That's why he had such a record.
It was not by accident.
It was on purpose.
Fascinating. What kind of...
Where do you think there was being destroyed in the ship when it sank?
I mean, do you have any idea what it could have been?
They wanted to go to the bottom of the Atlantic?
Well, when I speak of unwanted cargo, I'm talking about the rival faction of officials that would have vied for...
world government according to their vision which was completely opposed to the luciferian contingent's view of
I mean, the Luciferian view of world government is that we, the citizens of the world, are unwanted cargo.
They want to depopulate the planet.
They want to get rid of us.
And, you know, the United States of America is called the New Atlantis.
And why?
You know, got to think about that.
And Francis Bacon actually wrote a book called The New Atlantis.
Is there a secret destiny for the United States?
Manly P. Hall alluded to that.
He's a famous occultist, a Canadian philosopher, but an occultist and highly informed when it comes to secret societies and their occult machinations.
We have a caller, A16.
My guess is we have Brian back again.
Brian, join the conversation.
Your thoughts.
Well, what it brings to mind to me, I was reading online, they were talking about Tartaria.
And I was watching this episode of Antiques Roadshow where someone found a map from...
You know, the 1600s, whatever, in London, and they bought it, and they were showing it on Antiques Roadshow.
And all across Russia, in big letters, it said Tartaria.
And I was told, or online, they talked about Tartaria, and they said it lasted a thousand years, and it ended in 1066.
Yep, that's 66 there.
And to me, it just shows a level.
That they do this stuff to us with everything.
How could they erase 1,000 years of our history?
That's why when Hitler came to power, he talked about the Reich lasting 1,000 years because he was trying to recreate Tartaria.
But all of this is just kept from us.
So anyway, that's just what I wanted to say.
Timothy, any thoughts about Brian's speculations?
No, that's fascinating about the former name of Russia being Tartaria.
Very interesting.
And that this is a history that he claims lasted a whole millennium that's effectively been erased from the record.
Incredible. I wouldn't be at all surprised if every single word he said is true.
I know that Korea, for example, is a country with an ancient history.
It was actually before Korea, it was called the Badal Kingdom and its territory extended into what is What would later become Manchu territory in China.
The Manchuria section of China was ostensibly part of Korea.
And you want to consider that the Badal Kingdom was at war with the Chinese Yellow Emperor Huangdi.
Huang is yellow in Chinese.
Huangdi. They were at war, the two kingdoms, China and Badal.
What was your take on swapping out the Titanic for Olympic?
Oh, yeah.
To me, it sounds like the white star line.
We're going against the Illuminati, the dark.
That's why, you know, they lost that case in court where it was that ship the hawk, was it, that was really at fault.
But because you've got all your Freemasons in the court system, they're going to do the same thing to the White Star Line they do to you when you were in court, Jim.
You're not going to get justice.
And that was just what I thought.
When it was talked about.
Again, you know, they always burrow in any organization that's good, and then they screw it up from within.
And then they always have patsies that they can blame for all their misdeeds.
You know, Hitler, Stalin, the list of names just goes on and on that are patsies.
Okay, even Ho Chi Minh was a patsy.
Oh, he's terrible.
If they say they're really bad, that means they're really good.
They were showing that Genghis Khan was really good.
And, you know, that's why we get everything that's bad is good.
Everything that's good is bad.
That's how I approach everything in this world.
That's how you have to look at it.
You know, they never talk about Trotsky.
That's the worst, you know, one of the worst people in history, but you never hear anything about the 20 million going that he executed.
So, you know, that's just,
It reminds me of that Protocol of the Elders of Zion where they say we're going to put spectacles on their noses where they have to view the world through our lens.
And it certainly is true.
Yes, and Timothy, hey, that's about Trotsky.
Trotsky's real name was Braun Stein.
He was a Grand Orient Freemason.
He was a German Jew.
He was brought in with the Bolsheviks and he was just like most of the Bolshevik leadership, Grand Orient Freemason, Luciferian,
I would even go so far as to say fake Jew.
Not an actual Jew, but a Kazarian converso.
You didn't comment on the lawsuit, which Brian implies was lost by White Star in favor of Hawk and others that White Star was supposed to be responsible for the collision.
Yeah, no, I did comment on it.
I read a slide about it.
I know that there was strong evidence that the helmsman of the naval ship was responsible for the collision, but the decision of the court was to allocate blame directly at the captain of the Olympic.
That being Smith, and to allocate blame to the White Star shipping line.
Well, Brian, even though White Star may not have received a just verdict, they certainly were complicit in a lot of skullduggery here, leading to the death of roughly 1,500 when the Olympic renamed Titanic went down to the bottom of the sea.
Your thoughts?
Well, yeah, I mean, they always infect from within.
So I'm sure there were a lot of dark people in the White Star Line.
And, you know, I just don't know that much about that era of history.
But to me, that looked real suspicious.
And if the Illuminati, the dark, the Kazarian Mafia, whatever you want to call them, the Jews, They wanted it the other way around.
It would have turned out the other way around.
There's just no doubt, because they control all those Freemason judges.
So there was a reason that the verdict went the way it did.
So that's all I can say about it.
In a historical perspective, what would you suggest were the most important consequences of this?
Disaster. Perhaps the loss of the three opponents of the Fed?
Was that the most important?
That's the most important because what happened?
The Federal Reserve Bank was inaugurated the very next year, 1913.
So 1912, April was the month that it happened.
In 1912, the very next year, they found the Federal Reserve Bank.
So there you go.
Yeah, they took out the opponents and it went through.
The banking bill went through unopposed.
And as I recall, it was passed in a session at Christmas when most of the senators were on holiday.
And so the vote was, you know.
They didn't even have a quorum, but if nobody calls for a quorum call, they can go ahead and proceed with business anyhow.
I think it was all very duplicitous.
Lots of fraud and fake fraud, and the consequences for this nation have been enormous.
Indeed. Can I say something?
Yeah, and Nelson Ulrich's daughter married Rockefeller at the time.
And Nelson Rockefeller was named after Nelson Ulrich.
So there's your connections right there.
Very good.
Timothy, tell us what more we should garner from this historical deception.
Large-scale fraud, but, you know, I suppose not in principle, unlike many complex forms of insurance swindle.
Well, I mean, there was an insurance fraud swindle involving 9-11, too.
Larry Silverstein, who I'm assuming is an Ashkenazi so-called Jew, a Kazarian converso by ancestry.
He was...
He had insured the property and then doubled his claim because there were twin towers, so he asked for...
Two planes.
Yeah. Yeah, there you go.
So there's another example of an insurance fraud scheme.
Oh, yes.
And he got double indemnity.
He pocketed about $2.5 billion on a $114 million investment.
Brian, you want to add a comment more?
Yeah, he got double indemnity because it was a terrorist act.
He reconfigured his insurance agreement to include an anti-terrorist clause, and yes, exactly.
He claimed there'd been two hits, two attacks, and therefore double indemnity and pocketed a huge sum.
They don't call him Lucky Larry for nothing.
Timothy! In the end, the conclusion of our conversation, I'd like for you to offer us any reflections, what we should take away from this historical event, and any other thoughts you'd like to add?
Well, certainly I'd agree that the Freemason organization was involved.
The Belfast Shipyard was owned by Freemasonry.
The White Star shipping line was owned by the Jesuit order.
Now, the perception of most people is that the Freemasons were staunchly opposed to the Vatican, the Church of Rome, that they were virtually enemies.
I think what happened was that there was an infiltration of Freemasonry by the Jesuit order.
Basically, Adam Weishaupt, who founded the Bavarian Illuminati, was a Jesuit himself and so there was an infiltration into Freemasonry and there was a fusion of two secret societies at one point the Grand Orient fused with Certain lodges of Freemasonry to create Grand Orient Freemasonry.
That is entirely Luciferian.
That's the sons of darkness at war with the sons of light.
They are the sons of darkness.
They're the sons of Baliel.
They're the demon-worshipping contingent of Freemasonry.
Now, I'm not condemning all of Freemasonry.
I think that there are...
Lodges of light and there are lodges of darkness.
That's my personal belief.
I don't believe that the whole organization is sinister, but I think a large part of world Freemasonry functions as a crime syndicate and a very dangerous and powerful one.
Fascinating. Brian, if you're still there, your final thoughts?
Well, it reminds me of a letter in the National Archive that George Washington wrote to a friend in, I think, 1785.
He said, I'm concerned about our Freemasons.
They're being infiltrated by darkness.
And they couldn't have pulled off the Revolutionary War without the good Freemasons in this country.
At that time, we were good.
You know, that's what they do.
They always burrow from within and they could see what was happening or why they lost that war.
So they were going to infiltrate our Freemasons and turn it dark.
And that's just what they do.
What was the origin of Masonry?
You know, I felt it's a gap in my knowledge that I have not spent more time studying.
Masonry, the Freemasons, their influence, which appears to be vast, vast.
Brian first and Timothy.
Brian. You know, I really don't know either.
I think it goes back to ancient Egypt, if I'm not mistaken.
I think you'll find that they were the ones behind, you know, that helped with the pyramids, all that kind of stuff.
But, you know, it was definitely of the light then.
And it was higher dimensional beings that were making things like the pyramid.
But I think that's where it originated.
But like anything, it's taken over.
I like explanations that are free of extraterrestrial visitation and the like.
Timothy, your thoughts, your thoughts.
Well, it is a mystery school and it does have a 33 degree ranking system.
So I think that there was a hybrid bloodline of alien genetics and human genetics.
However, that came about is up for dispute.
There was a hybrid bloodline and they wished to protect the blue bloodline.
And so one of the ways of doing that was by creating mystery schools where those of highest rank would hold the bloodline that would be untrammeled, uncontaminated and untainted.
And of course, when you think about the caste system in India, you've got the Brahmin caste where the...
The Aryan elite that invaded India would be able to protect itself from any crossbreeding with lower caste Dravidian natives by maintaining a caste system.
So these mystery schools did in some way create a kind of caste system.
And then you have the ranking system of nobility in Europe with the degree ranks of individuals being defined by names like Duke and Earl and so forth.
And this is how they keep their bloodlines pure.
And they're interbreeding bloodlines that have interbred for thousands and thousands of years, which is why they have...
You know, congenital diseases like hemophilia, because of the inbreeding, there's been chromosomal damage.
And, you know, nature is just like the factory.
It wants to take damaged products off the product line so it doesn't taint the product line.
And in this case, human genome is the product line.
So please, I've featured you today.
It's been a real joy.
Brian, thank you for your call.
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