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The Raw Deal (12 March 2025) "Fearsome Threesome" edition with Joachim Hagopian and Russ Winter

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	You know, I need someone.
	I'm so much younger than today.
	I never need anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days I'm not so self-assured.
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	I'm open up the door Help me if you can I feel him down I'm not too He hates to be around Welcome to the Raw Deal this 12th day of March 2025 right here on Revolution Radio
	Live Studio B Fearsome Threesome Edition with Joaquin Egope and Russ Winter and your host Jim Fetzer.
	We begin by looking at a situation, the latest developments in Ukraine, which are so bizarre it's as though Volodymyr Dulinski was turning himself into a human pratzel.
	Really quite stunning stuff.
	We begin with...
	Ukraine agrees to a 30-day ceasefire, fairly remarkable by itself, except that Russia will find it utterly unacceptable.
	Here we go with a brief...
	This is the latest non-invasive...
	...Saudi Arabia, where Secretary of State Marco Rubio has just emerged along with Mike Walls from meeting with the Ukraine side.
	They've had over four hours, and he announced that they actually have something agreed upon.
	Today we made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which is to enter into a ceasefire and into immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable.
	And accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to prosper as a nation.
	I want to personally thank, we both want to thank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's Majesty for hosting us, for making this possible.
	They've been instrumental in this process and we're very grateful to them for hosting us here today and hopefully we'll take this offer now to the Russians.
	And we hope that they'll say yes, that they'll say yes to peace.
	The ball is now in their court.
	But again, the president's objective here is, number one, above everything else, he wants the war to end.
	And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step in that regard.
	We hope the Russians will reciprocate.
	I think as a result of this positive step forward, the president has decided to lift the pause.
	On aid and on our security assistance to Ukraine going forward.
	And that's effective immediately.
	So there's some definite concrete results where they're, especially from the Ukraine side, that they got an end to the pause in intelligence and supplies that they were getting from the United States.
	So they're certainly going to be breathing a bit of a sigh of relief on that.
	But then we have to get into the bigger issues there.
	Where does this take us from here?
	Now, Secretary Rubio mentioned at the end of that that we would be taking the negotiations or what was discussed to Moscow to see if they can find a solution to end that.
	There's been some reports already that Steve Witkoff, the other member of the negotiating team, is heading to Moscow possibly later this week.
	So apparently they're going to go very quickly.
	Yes, but indeed, here we have Tucker and Colonel McGregor.
	Wisconsin put President Trump back.
	What all this means.
	The brink of something really catastrophic.
	I kind of can't shake that feeling.
	And by catastrophic, I mean some kind of global war.
	Hope that's not true.
	But let's just start with what just happened, which is a drone attack on Moscow by the Ukrainians that killed a number of Russians in Moscow.
	Who did that, why, and what are its effects?
	Surprised about.
	So what they want now, the Russians, is an end to this nonsense.
	They have several options.
	They now have concentrations of forces in the northeastern part of Ukraine and down in the southeastern part.
	They can move at will at any time.
	They have enough force they can cross in Kherson.
	They can take Odessa.
	They can move forward and straight into Kiev.
	Whatever they do, they have to ask themselves, how far do we want to go to guarantee Our security as Russians.
	And they have never really wanted to go very far.
	That's never been the intent.
	But over time, they've been pushed more and more and more to secure more territory to protect themselves.
	This latest act is probably convincing Russians that they should go straight to the Dnieper River.
	Cross into Kiev, root out this regime, root and branch, cross down south and take Odessa, and turn rump Ukraine into a landlocked country.
	I'm sure there are people that are arguing for that.
	There are other Russians who are saying, the hell with this.
	Let's just crush Ukraine once and for all.
	This is a permanent cancer.
	It's not going to go away.
	People from the West are always going to try and go in and incite them.
	So, let's march to the Romanian and Polish borders, right to Moldova.
	And be done with this.
	In the middle of this, it's President Putin.
	And President Putin is nothing if not a very judicious person.
	He's a very thoughtful person.
	This is someone who does not act impulsively.
	I'm sure you saw that.
	I have.
	Everything is calculated.
	So he's going to sit there and say, what do I want to do?
	What makes the most sense for Russia?
	Set aside the emotion.
	And he also knows President Trump.
	And he says, President Trump wants an end to this.
	So do I. How do I nudge President Trump and say, help us?
	We want to end this just as much as you do.
	Help us a little bit.
	Can't you rid us of this man, Zelensky, and this little MI6 CIA-supported cabal that surrounds him?
	Can't you help us with this?
	But on the other hand, he's looking at his people, and they're saying, don't depend on anything the West promises.
	Don't believe anything the West says.
	So march to the Nyeper, cross the river, end this once and for all.
	This is the decision point.
	It's a strategic inflection point in the history of Europe.
	Because you now have a Russian leader with the power, with the capability to do anything he wants.
	But this is a Russian who doesn't want to march west.
	He doesn't want to rule Ukrainians.
	He's not a fool.
	He knows those people don't want to be ruled by Russians.
	So it's a difficult position, but he has to end it.
	And there's the other danger.
	Who knows what comes next?
	You know, they killed this Russian general.
	Who had a very prominent role, and his name escapes me right now, but he was killed recently.
	He had a very prominent role in identifying the attempts by the Ukrainians to build a dirty bomb.
	And also to launch attacks on the nuclear power plants.
	He knows there are people over there capable of that kind of lunacy.
	So that also has to figure into his calculus.
	It's got to be one of the most evil governments in the world.
	It is.
	Well, look at what they've done to their own people.
	I mean, how many of these Ukrainians have died needlessly?
	The handwriting was on the wall two years ago.
	Why would you drag this thing out?
	And Putin has not wanted to drag it out, but he has also not wanted to give people in the West the impression that he's interested in doing anything more than removing the Ukrainian menace.
	In other words, he's not interested in conquest, doesn't want to march West.
	I mean, how many times can he and Lavrov say this nonsense and shut up?
	Ann Applebaum and the rest of these crazies.
	Why does Ann Applebaum have any effect on anything?
	I mean, this is like one of the dumbest people in the United States.
	I don't understand.
	Well, she's also married to the Polish foreign minister.
	And right now, the latest poll says that 86% of the Polish population opposes any Polish participation in a war against Russia.
	And even Tusk has said, if you think we're joining some sort of contingent to go into Western Ukraine, forget it.
	We're not going.
	So I think this whole facade is crumbling.
	Is there any European population, so there are many European leaders who have suggested, some have said out loud, others have hinted, that they're going to send troops to fight Putin?
	It's absurd.
	Defend our rights.
	Keep our community safe.
	Protect...
	It's absurd indeed.
	Joaquim, your thoughts about all of the above?
	Well, you know, I think that, yes.
	Putin has shown remarkable restraint, perhaps even too much.
	He's very careful and plots everything he does, thinks about everything before he acts.
	However, I think that as long as Zelensky stays there as the president, I don't think it's going to work.
	This guy's not workable.
	Even Trump.
	He wants him out.
	He's said so much.
	So I hope that there's some kind of regime change in Kiev because that will then perhaps open it up for further dialogue and eventual peace settlement.
	The agreement that Rubio and Waltz has come up with with delegation from Kiev, that's a joke.
	Russia is not going to accept it.
	I mean, they're saying a 30-day ceasefire, temporary.
	Russia has consistently said, no, we're not going to do that.
	We want it permanent.
	And so I don't see Russia even accepting the offer.
	And then we hear that Trump is ready to do more economic sanctions on Putin and Russia.
	If he doesn't go along, that kind of tactic, you know, that might work for Trump to be the strong-armed brute and get away with it with weaker adversaries.
	But Putin is not a weak adversary.
	He's got all the cards.
	Just like, you know, Trump was pointing out to Zelensky, you know, you don't have any cards.
	Neither does Trump.
	He really doesn't.
	Russia.
	Is the one that's going to determine the outcome of this war.
	And they've stipulated four things they wanted from the very outset before they even went in.
	And as long as it's not denazified, and as long as they are able to retain those annexed territories, And as long as NATO is not part of the scene with Ukraine, I mean, you know, so I don't think it's going to work.
	Hopefully, they can iron out the things that are unacceptable to Russia and proceed from there.
	But at this outset, I think they're jerking off, you know, the Ukraine and U.S. delegations.
	A little circle jerk.
	It's not going to go anywhere with Russia.
	I don't believe it.
	Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, especially after Minsk.
	I mean, how could Putin have any agreement with the West when they used Minsk as a cover to beef up Ukraine to fight Russia?
	Surely this ceasefire would be viewed by Putin as precisely the same on a smaller scale.
	The U.S. has no credibility.
	They've proven that over and over historically.
	Yeah, no credibility.
	And the thuggish style of Trump in foreign policy is embarrassing.
	I just cannot believe he acts like a mafia don dealing with some businessman who's not shelling out his...
	Security.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	And we get the same with Iran.
	We'll turn to that by and by.
	Russ, your thoughts.
	Well, for optics, I think they're going to get rid of Zelensky.
	They're going to go to the Shabat-Lubovichers and come up with a replacement for him that's suitable for them.
	And then I think it's kind of interesting that this developed right as Russia was kicking...
	The Ukrainians' ass and kind of a big encirclement in Kursk, the Kursk region.
	You're really flailing on them.
	And if Ukraine were smart, I mean, I'm kind of gaming it out how I would play it if I was Ukraine, trying to save their situation.
	So I'm putting myself a little bit in their shoes.
	I would pull out of Kursk.
	I'd get out of there.
	Because the optics just aren't very good.
	You know, what are you doing attacking Russia?
	Why are you attacking Moscow?
	Why are you in Kursk?
	Because that's just going to draw hellfire on them.
	Pull out, you know, go back to the line of contact, so to speak, back in eastern Ukraine, and dig in.
	Just dig in, almost like an arm of us.
	You know, get entrenched.
	Don't go on any kind of offensive measures and just wait it out.
	And then, again, come back and offer a ceasefire.
	But they can't be offering ceasefires when they're in Kursk.
	My understanding, by the way, is they're surrounded in Kursk.
	I mean, there's no hope for the Ukrainian troops in Kursk.
	They're all going to be slaughtered.
	Yeah, the Russians need to take...
	Take them.
	They've got a Stalingrad situation.
	Wrap that whole operation up and delay.
	But Ukraine could sue for a ceasefire under a little different battlefield setup.
	Zelensky gone.
	More dug in in a defensive position.
	Probably in the areas that they want to try to keep.
	The demarcation line.
	The Ukrainians are so desperate that they're shooting soldiers who desert the front lines and they're kidnapping kids off the street and put them back there.
	It's outrageous.
	Joaquin, your other thoughts?
	Yeah, it's a very inhumane situation.
	It's been that way for a very long time now with Ukraine, where they're taking the kids off the street and the old men from different places and beating them up and putting them on buses to head to the war front.
	It's just so inhumane and tragic.
	And they've been doing this for as long as the war's been going on, it seems, because they've been running out of men for a long time.
	So, yeah, I think that it's a very difficult situation for Ukraine because they have no cards.
	They have no leverage whatsoever in any kind of negotiation.
	And Russia has it all.
	I'm sorry to say that I don't think this peace plan is going to work.
	And obviously, you know, Trump and company need to kind of go back and figure out their next approach to Russia, because this one is not going to move them whatsoever.
	It's an unacceptable situation and cursed.
	I don't know.
	It's a matter of a couple more days, I guess, before they're all slaughtered or they somehow mercifully find their way back into Ukraine.
	But that's even unlikely because I think Russia is blocking their exit to Ukraine.
	They would surrender.
	They'd be treated better by the Russians than by their own office.
	That's right.
	Yeah, they're killing them.
	Russia has to mop that up.
	And Ukraine needs to get the hell out of Kurs.
	That's a given.
	Yeah.
	Here Trump was in a perfect situation to be diplomatic with Russia.
	Say, look.
	You've won on the battlefield.
	We want to work out an agreement with you that satisfies your conditions.
	No NATO for Ukraine.
	You retain the territories, demilitarization, denazification.
	What can we do to accommodate you?
	That ought to have been the approach of the U.S. I don't think the Ukrainians will accept demilitarization.
	They want them to cut back down to 84,000 troops.
	That's a non-starter for Ukraine.
	They've got to maintain a pretty big remaining army in the field.
	But this is where you negotiate, right?
	In Russian terms, find out what Ukraine will accept.
	I think that would probably be something that could be worked out.
	We do, by the way, have a response by Putin to what's going on here.
	This is his first response.
	Russia is one of the undisputed leaders and reserves of these rare and rare earth metals.
	We have them in the north, in Murmansk, in the Caucasus, in Kabardino-Balkaria, in the Far East, in the Irkutsk region, in Yakutia, in Tuva.
	These are fairly capital-intensive investments.
	These are capital-intensive projects.
	We would be happy to work together with any foreign partners, including American ones.
	Yes, by the way, regarding new territories, it's the same here.
	We are ready to attract foreign partners to the so-called new historical territories that have returned to the Russian Federation.
	There are also certain minerals there.
	We are ready to work with our foreign partners, including the Americans, there.
	And in new regions, too?
	Yes, of course.
	These days, we are generally making a lot of statements, discussions.
	Everyone is discussing Trump.
	He is saying so harshly that Zelensky should run for office, that his rating is 4%.
	The Europeans are criticizing Trump a lot for all these statements.
	And in general, there are already opinions.
	That the current approach of the U.S. president, rather, plays into Russia's hands.
	Do you think this is really so?
	I think it is absolutely not so.
	I have my own point of view on this matter.
	It is the opposite of what you have just stated.
	The fact is that the current head of the Kiev regime is becoming a toxic figure for the armed forces of Ukraine.
	Because he gives absurd orders, dictated not by military considerations, but by political considerations, and it is unclear what they are based on.
	And this leads to unjustifiably large losses, if not to say, to very large or catastrophic losses for the Ukrainian army.
	He is becoming toxic for society as a whole.
	And this, in my opinion.
	is evidenced by today's vote in the Verkavner Rada to extend his powers.
	Finally, he drove himself into a dead end with a decree banning negotiations with the Russian Federation on a peace treaty.
	He stopped these negotiations.
	And what's the matter?
	The matter is that he is avoiding these negotiations.
	Why?
	Because if these negotiations begin, Sooner or later.
	And most likely quite quickly.
	This will lead to the need to lift martial law.
	And as soon as this happens, he will immediately have to go to the elections.
	Then there will be no reason not to hold elections.
	Because today elections in Ukraine are not held under the pretext of martial law.
	And if there are negotiations, then there will be a possible quick need to lift martial law.
	Then he will immediately have to go to the elections.
	And here the current head of the Kyiv regime has a problem.
	Because in fact it does not matter how many percents he has in the rating, or another.
	Another thing is important, his rating, according to our data, is objective.
	And it is exactly two times less than.
	That of his possible closest political rival.
	This is Mr. Zelosny, the former commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, whom they exiled to London.
	His rating is exactly twice as high.
	And if we add to this the possible support of this possible candidate from other political figures, including former prime ministers or former presidents, then the current head of the Kiev regime has absolutely no chance of winning the elections.
	His chances are zero.
	But, of course, this is only if something is not grossly raked.
	But this is also bad for him, because it will be very noticeable.
	Therefore, he is a factor in the disintegration of the army, society, and the state.
	And the current U.S. President Trump certainly understands this and is pushing him to the elections.
	He wants to do the following.
	As it seems to me, he wants to improve the situation.
	The political situation in Ukraine.
	Consolidate society.
	Create conditions for the survival of the Ukrainian state.
	And in general, this is not so much for the benefit of Russia.
	We still have a conflict with the current regime as it is for the benefit of Ukraine itself.
	Among other things, the current U.S. President has declared that he wants to achieve peace, and by the way, so do we, and as quickly as possible.
	And the current head of the Kiev regime is an obstacle to achieving this goal.
	This is where the position of the President of the United States, as it seems to me, comes from.
	And it is not connected with the fact.
	That this is in our Russian interests, most likely.
	It is in the interests of Ukraine, the Ukrainian state, with the goal of preserving Ukrainian statehood.
	We have nothing against this either.
	Although, of course, we would like this territory not to be used as a springboard for an attack on the Russian Federation.
	Not to be used as a hostile springboard for us.
	That ultimately it turns into a friendly neighboring state.
	Every day we hear many different statements from Trump.
	You have met with him more than once.
	You recently had a telephone conversation.
	Does he act on emotions?
	Of course not.
	Naturally, the current head of the regime in Kiev gives a reason to show these emotions.
	But from what I have just said, something completely different emerges.
	These actions of Trump are based, rather, not on emotions, but on cold calculation, on a rational approach to the current situation.
	In the current situation, oddly enough, frankly speaking, we were interested in Zelensky continuing to decompose the Kyiv regime, with which we are in armed conflict.
	And from the point of view of the interests of strengthening Ukrainian statehood, of course, here we need to act, apparently, more energetically and in a completely different direction.
	It is necessary to bring to power people who will enjoy the trust of the people of Ukraine.
	And do the Europeans even understand, in your opinion, the essence of the current alignment around Ukraine?
	Well, you should ask them.
	Judging by the way they act, it seems to me that they do not really understand it, but...
	That is not even the point.
	The point is that, unlike the new President of the United States, the political leaders of European states are connected with the current Kyiv regime.
	They're engaged.
	And they have said and promised too much.
	And now, excuse the simplicity of expression.
	It is very difficult or almost impossible for them to steer away from this position without losing face.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	Let's listen to a few more minutes of Putin's dispassionate characterization of what's going on.
	Notice he's saying how Zelenskyy is contributing to the disintegration of the Ukrainian military, Ukrainian society.
	really Ukraine's stance in the world.
	So that implies they're not in any rush because he's doing the work for Russia.
	And considering that they are in a rather difficult and responsible domestic political period for them, elections, re-elections, they have difficulties in parliament, and so on.
	Then, given these circumstances, it is practically impossible for them to change their position.
	Unlike them, the current president of the United States, the new president, the newly elected president, His hands are untied.
	He is free from these networks that do not allow him to move forward and work towards resolving the conflict and in his character.
	He probably has the ability to act straightforwardly and without any particular embarrassment.
	He's in a unique position.
	He does not just say what he thinks.
	He says what he wants.
	Well, this is the privilege of the leader of one of the large and great powers.
	A few days ago in St. Petersburg, I asked you about the fact that everyone now wants to have some kind of voice in Russian-American negotiations.
	But the Europeans continue to insist and demand the right to vote in the negotiations around Ukraine.
	How do you assess this?
	I do not see anything bad here.
	Probably.
	No one can demand anything here, especially from Russia.
	Yeah.
	Let them demand from someone else.
	For thousands of years they have demanded anything from their vassals.
	Now they are demanding from them.
	Therefore, let them sit at home with their demands and think about how they got to this point in their lives.
	But their participation in the negotiation process is in demand, of course, and we have never refused to negotiate.
	We have had constant discussions with them at some point.
	Under all sorts of far-fetched ideas to defeat Russia on the battlefield, they themselves refuse to contact us.
	If they want to come back, welcome!
	I saw their reaction to our telephone conversation with the US President, and I saw their reaction to the high-level meeting in Riyadh.
	Indeed, this reaction is emotional and devoid of any practical meaning.
	Why?
	Because in order to resolve complex and even acute issues, including on the Ukrainian track.
	Both Russia and the United States must take the first step.
	What does it consist of?
	This first step should be dedicated to increasing the level of trust between both states.
	This is what we did in Riyadh.
	And this is what the next possible high-level contacts will be devoted to.
	Without this, it is impossible to resolve any issue, including such a complex and acute issue as the Ukrainian crisis.
	But what do the Europeans have to do with this?
	This concerns bilateral Russian-American relations.
	Why do we need the Europeans here?
	What will they do here?
	And in the telephone conversation, by the way, and at the meeting in Riyadh, of course.
	The problems related to the Ukrainian crisis were touched upon.
	But it was not discussed there in essence.
	We only agreed that we would approach this.
	But in this sense, and in this case, of course, we are not refusing the participation of European countries.
	But I want to emphasize.
	We also respect the position of our friends from BRICS, who created a group of supporters of peace.
	Today, I spoke with the chairman of the People's Republic of China, and we also discussed this.
	He informed me that the Friends of Peace group in New York will meet again soon, and they will discuss this.
	Not only do we welcome this, We are grateful to all our partners who raise these issues, who strive to achieve peace.
	Why am I saying this?
	Not only Europeans, but also other countries have the right and can participate, and we respect this.
	I wanted to ask you to comment on a few more statements by Trump, of which, as I said, there are a lot, but not all of them.
	Okay, okay, not all of them.
	For example, he said that he wants to offer you and the head of China to cut defense budgets in half.
	How do you like this idea?
	I know.
	I can guess.
	What this is based on?
	It is based, apparently, on the calculations of one of the British research centers, which said that our military spending was calculated at purchasing power parity.
	Last year, the US had, I think, already $968 billion.
	And if you add up Russian and Chinese spending, these figures are approximately the same.
	Russian and Chinese together.
	If you compare them with the American ones, well, first of all, we need to calculate all this.
	The calculations of the British Center may be correct, or they may not be very correct, or completely incorrect.
	We need to look at this.
	First, second, I cannot comment on how the People's Republic of China will react to this.
	There were different approaches from the American side regarding strategic offensive weapons and other very serious issues.
	Well, there's more to it, but what a joy to listen to a rational, thoughtful, reflective dissection of what's going on.
	Well, Akina, I just so admire this man.
	Your thoughts?
	He is so calm and cool and diplomatic and tactful.
	You can't argue with anything the guy has ever said, you know?
	He's very rational and obviously extremely intelligent.
	He makes every other leader on the geopolitics stage, the world stage, chessboard, a joke.
	They're all so biased and combative, mostly.
	Him and Lavrov, I mean, these guys are like the masters of how to do business as a nation, to me.
	And that's why they're drawing so much admiration from basically the third world and their fellow BRICS partners.
	Because they are the leaders now of the world.
	Far more than any United States.
	I mean, you know, United States is just trashed.
	Credibility.
	But anyway, let's get back to the terms.
	One of the terms that Rubio and Walt came up with, along with the Ukraine delegation there and Saudi Arabia, is that they're going to address the children, the Ukrainian children, that were supposedly yanked by Russia.
	And forced to go into Russia under their authority.
	And this is a complete lie put out by the Biden administration.
	You know, it was some kind of crackpot study that was done by Biden administration, you know, and it's totally false.
	So that's another condition that they're putting out there on the table that Russia is going to have to...
	You know, defend what they did.
	Well, no, they don't have to defend because it's all bullshit, you know?
	So, yeah, I think the Americans are so inept and stupid, you know?
	And I also think, yeah, there has to be an election.
	Either that or overthrow the bastard that's in there in Kiev.
	Either overthrow him or do an election.
	And General Zeluzny is the popular guy that can handle it.
	I believe he's the man that can move forward.
	And I hope that happens, because, you know, with these idiots that are there now, it's not going to go anywhere.
	Yeah, and after floating the ceasefire proposal, Rubio says...
	Now it's up to Russia to decide whether they really have a commitment to peace or not.
	But when a 30-day ceasefire is only going to benefit Ukraine and do no good for Russia, it's actually going to stall them in their offensive operation just when they're closing the gap in Kursk, for example.
	I mean, it would be silly for Russia to agree to a ceasefire right now in terms of status on the battlefield, but also in general to have a ceasefire.
	And they made it clear.
	So this is, in my opinion, just another sleight of hand, just like with the children trying to find anything you can use against Russia to tarnish Russia when it's the only adult in the room.
	Russ, your thoughts.
	Well, what I'm hearing is that this is how it's going to play out.
	They're going to wrap up this Kirk's operation.
	I don't know how long that's going to take.
	Hopefully quickly.
	And they can't do some kind of deal like Hitler did at Dunkirk, where they let the British go, figuring that he could get brownie points with them.
	That would be a mistake.
	So they've got to take these Ukrainian prisoners, and then he's making it very clear that Zelensky has to go, and then pull out of Kurs, pull out of the Russian Federation, and call a ceasefire.
	I don't think that they're going to race across the Dnieper.
	I think that would backfire on them on the world stage with a lot of their allies, the BRICS nation that he kind of wants to appeal to.
	I think they would look at that as kind of aggressive.
	And I kind of would too, because I want to preserve the Ukraine.
	And I think for Ukraine to be preserved, it's necessary to get new leadership.
	It's ASAP. So I think that's what he made very, very clear.
	And I think at that point, he'd be willing to negotiate under it.
	I don't think a ceasefire is in Russia's interest under any circumstances.
	They've got to screw themselves because that'll be used against them.
	But they've got to get Zlinski out of there.
	They've got to take the Ukrainian prisoners.
	They've got to drive them out of Kursk.
	And then that's the starting point for a ceasefire.
	What they don't want is another Minsk, where, you know, they are negotiating a settlement, they sign it, and then, you know, it's all, you know, deceptively to buy time so that they can build up their military more, rearm, you know, weapons.
	You know, and Russia has said.
	No, we're not going to go for that because of that reality.
	We don't want to face that.
	So, yeah, it's unacceptable.
	It's kind of interesting that the U.S. dropped their satellite intelligence with the Ukrainians right as this operation got underway in Kursk.
	That had to be delivered.
	They probably set that up.
	It's kind of like, you got these guys overexposed.
	They're totally dependent on our intel.
	We're going to pull that.
	Go get them.
	They lost a lot of soldiers during that short pause.
	That sets the next stage for them to pull out of Kursk, which is going to be a demand anyway.
	And then in response, he's go ahead and start a ceasefire and peace negotiations without Zelensky.
	I mean, it just seems to be pointing that way to me.
	It's kind of like overwhelming.
	I think there's no pulling out a curse.
	They're all going to surrender.
	They're going to die.
	There are no other options.
	And it would be stupid for the Russians to allow them to escape in any case.
	Yeah, I agree.
	They're going to capture as many as they can.
	They might try to do a breakout, but...
	And as Joaquin was saying, and as I observed, the West is untrustworthy.
	And I don't even see where Trump is trustworthy.
	I mean, here's Putin saying he's got an open hand, he can do anything he wants, he's not encumbered like the Europeans by prior commitments, and then he's threatening Russia with more sanctions?
	I mean, that's as stupid as any action could have been under these circumstances.
	It's habitual.
	It's habitual with Trump.
	That's just the way he is.
	He likes to bully people.
	Yeah.
	And that's very unfortunate.
	But it seems like Putin is, like you guys are saying, a pretty cool customer in terms of, okay, I'm going to let that roll off.
	You know, you can threaten sanctions.
	We've been through all that already.
	Are you really going to do that?
	You know, kind of like, really?
	That's what you're going to do?
	You're trying to kind of reconcile with us and you're going to put more sanctions on us?
	But what Trump is actually saying is, you know, we're going to do you a favor in Kursk and we're going to replace Zelensky.
	Now you cooperate.
	That, I think, is the real message.
	But it happened.
	But look, these sanctions have backfired.
	I mean, that's where BRICS came from.
	The abuse of the International Monetary Fund, the SWIFT, and all that politicizing economic trends.
	Well, you know, Putin is really hinting in that statement that he would love to start doing business with the West.
	I mean, he really was pushing that.
	So they're tired of the sanctions.
	It's at a toll.
	That's why I think this threat to the sanctions was so colossally stupid.
	Joaquin, right?
	They should be taking away the sanctions as an incentive, basically, for negotiation.
	Yes.
	It's the opposite of Trump's approach.
	At first they did, but then they backpedaled.
	So they keep changing the messaging.
	But that's the way Trump is on everything.
	Tariffs one day, no tariffs the next.
	He just runs this constant switcheroo routine.
	Maybe Putin is cool enough of a customer to deal with all that.
	We've got to really hope.
	Otherwise, this thing is going to get out of hand.
	Let me make a point about Trump saying he wants to settle war in Ukraine because too many innocent men, women, and children are dying needlessly.
	Why is he saying that about Gaza?
	I mean, the number of innocent men, women, and children are dying in Gaza.
	How can you reconcile?
	He's completely incoherent in his position politically and morally.
	And I find this outrageous.
	It's like with a censorship.
	He claims on the one hand, he's all for free speech.
	He's going to be the greatest First Amendment president we ever have.
	And then he's shipping anti-genocide protesters off.
	He's canceling their green card.
	He's taking half a billion away from Colombia for not doing enough to suppress criticism of Israel.
	They've got 60 colleges on the list now.
	Besides Columbia, 60 colleges, they're going to just...
	And I, as a professor, would encourage it.
	I'd say there's nothing more noble than protesting genocide.
	I would encourage students to go out and protest.
	I'd be out there protesting, for crying out loud.
	And it is saying, on the one hand, he's all for free speech in the Constitution, and doing this is just remehensible.
	I regard this as the moral litmus test of his fitness as president, and frankly, he's flunky.
	Joaquin.
	Yeah, and look how Russian military are so careful to not damage, kill, injure civilians.
	Yet look at the terrorist state of Ukraine and what they're doing with their latest drone attack.
	You know, 330 drones into Russia, right into Moscow.
	Civilian Russians, you know?
	So it's just the opposite, you know?
	I mean, it's a war crime to go after civilians, and that is the objective with the latest drone attacks on Russia, you know?
	So they operate completely different.
	And I hate to say it, but, you know, Trump's, he's just like Ukraine almost.
	He's just like Zelensky in many ways, I think.
	Here, I thought he was so smart to cut off military supplies and intel to Ukraine.
	And the Russians, you know, take advantage.
	They're hitting Ukraine all over the place.
	But then to restore it under this feeble pretext of the ceasefire, I didn't think that was wise.
	I'm wondering if he's being manipulated behind the scene and who would have the power to do it.
	Well, I think he thinks that he can, you know, run the battlefield.
	With these actions, make sure that Ukraine gets in some trouble, gets overexposed and cursed, they get hammered, but then put the velvet glove out for Ukraine, doing that game all the time.
	So I can actually kind of see some logic to this maneuver.
	I actually can.
	I can actually kind of see what they might be trying to do.
	They cannot!
	Conduct these ops against Moscow without the intel provided by the United States.
	So this is, in my opinion, a calamity, a stupid move by the United States to antagonize Russia and to increase distrust of Trump.
	I think it's a blunder, Joaquin.
	That's right.
	All those drones, that 300-something, they were guided by the intelligence services of the United States.
	So, I mean, you know, on civilian populations in Russia, they targeted civilian population, a war crime.
	So it's like, you know, that's the antagonistic approach.
	That's not going to get Putin to suddenly, you know, like I say, you know, Putin has all the cards in his favor.
	He has all the leverage.
	America and Zelensky, zero.
	So, you know, I think...
	I think Putin has to step up and be more assertive in demand.
	I think it's his turn now.
	He's too diplomatic, I think.
	Trump has misplayed his hand.
	I mean, this was so bad.
	Yeah.
	Plus, you're right, if we get rid of Zelensky, that's a giant step in the right direction.
	Trump has said he wants there to be elections.
	Zelensky's not going to do it.
	He knows he's going down the tube.
	You know?
	There won't be any ceasefire.
	Nothing's going to proceed.
	It's that simple.
	I think that's a condition to ceasefire will be that there has to be an election.
	I think it's on the table.
	They have to do it.
	I don't think they can even wait for an election.
	I think they need to replace him pretty much by coup d'etat.
	I agree.
	I'm all for that.
	I don't have any problem with that.
	Couple more stories here.
	I do like this guy so much.
	I mean, Russia is so fortunate to have such a leader.
	Here we have Joaquin, stage set for an apocalyptic countdown.
	We have an apocalyptic countdown to one world government.
	Troubling, troubling.
	Let me see if I can get rid of this thing here somehow.
	Seemingly not.
	Here we have Donald Trump's a stooge for the Greater Israel Project, owned and operated by the City of London Rothschild bloodline founder of Israel.
	His asserted synagogue of Satan crew is the most pro-Israel cabinet in all of U.S. history.
	And in the next two months, near two months, he's taken office.
	He's clearly demonstrated he's make Israel great again as a fraud, not a mega man at all.
	Look at his defense secretary, Pete Hagsath, who was so emotionally moved when he visited the site in Jerusalem for today's Al-Mosk, Osquamoss stands, not in any deference whatsoever to Islam.
	Third most holy site, but only in his unholy Zionists resolve that there's only a one-state solution, Israel, and the present mosque holy site must be torn down in the third Jewish temple built.
	After all, it's not called the Jewish Temple Mount for nothing, Hegseth says, and this is just stunning stuff.
	If you walk the ground today, Hegseth says, You understand there's no such thing as the outcome of a two-state solution.
	There is one state.
	And as you stand there, you can't help but behold the miracle before you.
	And it got me thinking about another miracle that I hope all of you don't see too far away, because 1917 was a miracle.
	1948 was a miracle.
	1967 was a miracle.
	2017 Declaration of Jerusalem as the Capitol was a miracle.
	And there's no reason why the miracle of the reestablishment of the Temple on the Temple Mount is not possible, even though it would bring about a holy war with Islam, which would be utterly indefensible.
	I mean, this is insane, literally insane.
	Joaquin, am I wrong?
	No, absolutely right.
	Joaquin wrote it.
	No, I'm quoting Hegseth.
	Oh, Hegseth, okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	These are Hegseth's words.
	That's his brain operating.
	And the sad part is that the whole administration is filled with these nonsensical bullshit.
	There's a whole bunch.
	Walt, he's another Christian Zionist.
	The ambassador to Israel, he's another Christian Zionist.
	They're all filled with these bastards, you know?
	So it's like they all think alike.
	They want a third temple and Armageddon.
	They're going to get saved by Jesus coming back, you know?
	I mean, it's insane.
	We have insane people in our government operating.
	That's the reality.
	And do they understand what they're really talking about?
	Because, you know, Rabbi Schneerson, who many thought was the Meshach, you know, the return of the Jewish Messiah, denied it on the ground that there are still Christians alive on the face of earth.
	And the Meshach cannot return to all the Christians are dead.
	That's really reassuring.
	That's really reassuring.
	There's still Christians left in the face of the earth.
	And where does Trump go this last October 7th for prayer?
	Schneerson's gravesite!
	Where does his Ivanka daughter and the stupid husband Kershner go?
	To Schneerson's gravesite to pray.
	He is their Messiah, basically, and they go to prayer for him.
	You know, to save them.
	That's how the Jews are approaching this whole thing about Armageddon and all that, because it's going to bring back, in their heads, Snierson, of all people.
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	Here's another paragraph from Mark Keen's article on my blog, Instagram.
	In a December 2020 article called The Real Jewish Problem, Kazarian Mafia Rule Earth Through Deception and Destruction, Part I, I Unmasked, This unholy agenda of building the third Jewish temple at Jerusalem's Temple Mount, based on the fraud that it's not even the original location of the first two temples.
	Nick Kohlestrom, by the way, has documented this.
	Zionists, not only in Israel, but around the globe, including the Zionist Christian majority in the United States, are all convinced that Middle East Armageddon, Plotted and predicted by the top Freemasons in 1871 as a coming Zionist versus Islam, World War III, will bring back the Messiah.
	To the Christians, Zionists faithfully insist it will deliver the return of Jesus Christ, while Jews having killed their own in Jesus are banking on the Jewish Messiah's return, no doubt, The same one that Donald, his daughter Ivanka, and her husband Jarrah all pray at, Lubavitcher, Rabbi, Lindheim, Mendel, Schneerson.
	Regardless of belief of which Messiah allegedly returned tearing down the Oskar Mosque, is their wet dream agenda come true, as it is certain, certain, to trigger Armageddon, And that's all they're salivating over.
	I do agree, Joaquin.
	This is just pure lunacy.
	This is bizarre beyond words.
	Russ, your thoughts.
	Well, we got Israel first.
	That's been pretty well established from the get-go.
	We knew that.
	No surprise there.
	Now he's deporting dissent actively.
	Going after up to 60 colleges.
	We're going to withhold funding and put a bunch of academic pressure on them.
	And of course, that'll go way beyond all this so-called anti-Semitism stuff.
	It'll go after the leftists.
	Because this guy is a true fascist.
	Check him.
	You've got war with Iran.
	Iran just pretty much told Trump to go screw himself.
	You've got more tax dollars to Bibi.
	I mean, a lot more tax dollars and weapons to prepare him for the next round of warfare, possibly against Egypt and Iran.
	Now they're primarying Massey.
	I'll tell you what.
	Three weeks ago, three or four weeks ago, I was really in trouble with a lot of my followers and people that listened to me.
	I had people who were accusing me of being black-pilled and give Trump a chance.
	He's just gotten in office.
	I have noticed a dramatic change over the last week or so in sentiment.
	People are kind of...
	They're coming back into my camp.
	It's nice to see.
	It's kind of like, hey, Winner, you're fucking right.
	You were fucking right about this guy.
	I think he's losing.
	Popular support, even in the MAGA movement, I agree.
	Joachim, your thoughts?
	Well, I've got a couple more.
	So we've got no JFK and Epstein files.
	That's huge.
	That just disappeared.
	And that one's really alerted a lot of people.
	And then he's saying, you know, talking about Epstein is anti-Semitic.
	Talking about any Jew is anti-Semitic.
	Okay.
	That pretty much lists it.
	That's the list.
	It's an awesome array of evidence from many different directions that this guy is not on the up and up.
	Joaquin.
	Yeah, and him going after Representative Massey, who is the sanest and most honest and has the most integrity of any congressperson that I have encountered.
	You know, so, I mean, he's the one guy that is not going to be swayed.
	By a handler from AIPAC, you know?
	And he's saying all his colleagues have their handlers from AIPAC to tell them how to vote on every bill, you know?
	So, and he's saying, Trump is saying, yeah, we got to get him out now, you know?
	I mean, this guy...
	The messaging against Massey is just really odd.
	Not very impressive.
	I mean, you know, they've got sort of a...
	Hit campaign going against him and you kind of look at it and you just sort of shake your heads going, really?
	I mean, you really think these Trump charges are so dumb that they're going to buy into that argument?
	This messaging?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We agree.
	We agree.
	If you want to go to Winterwatch, you're welcome to share.
	I gave you permission.
	It should work.
	Give it a shot.
	Okay.
	We got the screen up.
	We good?
	Share?
	Yeah.
	All right, there it is.
	Okay.
	Oh, let's take a look at the meme.
	Can we see the meme?
	Let me just move this.
	Hang on.
	Yeah, move it to the other side or something.
	The left-hand corner, left upper corner is a nice spot because then I can kind of move down the page.
	All right.
	Can you get it over there?
	Is that where it is?
	I've got it up on her left hand.
	You're on the upper right hand corner with our...
	On yours.
	Yeah.
	Can you flip that over to the upper left hand corner?
	Yeah.
	How's that?
	No, you're still on the upper right hand corner.
	Well, you've got two choices there and here.
	Which do you prefer?
	On the left-hand side.
	Well, that's where it is as I look at the screen.
	Oh, really?
	What do you see, Joaquin?
	Yeah, I see the same thing as you.
	It's on the right-hand side.
	Kind of weird.
	And the only movement is up and down.
	Huh.
	Well, go right ahead.
	Do your best.
	Okay, so the meme says that the meme...
	Kind of centers around, you can kind of see it there, kind of centers around my argument before about the salami strategy, where you kind of divide two ends of the dialectic to try to divide and conquer.
	And so the meme says, it shows the Trojan horse going up to the MAGA castle.
	Yes.
	And it says there are only two genders.
	So that's the salamis, you know, to go after the leftist.
	And then the Maga guys are saying, based!
	And they're rolling the Trojan horse in.
	And inside the Trojan horse, you can see Israel first.
	It's a really good thing.
	Yeah, that one probably should.
	That should be turned into a sticker.
	Give us the rest.
	Yeah, in the good ways.
	All right, we've got a story with Mexican drug cartels.
	Have Javelin missile systems that we send to Ukraine.
	Story from McGregor on that one.
	You can see him talk about it.
	He just basically says they're being well equipped.
	I found another...
	I think I sent it to you by email.
	I found a really good show.
	It's a discussion of the origins of the CJNG, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel.
	The one that's kind of taken over from the...
	Sinaloa.
	Sinaloa.
	Now, the Sinaloa guy, Mayo Cardoso, or whatever his name is, He's now being interrogated in the United States, and he's the guy that's been paying all the bribes to the U.S. officials and the Mexican officials.
	He's the banker.
	He's the bribe guy for the entire cartel in Mexico, and they got him.
	They got him in the United States, and they're questioning him.
	So that's going to be interesting, who they throw under the bus on that.
	It probably will be all of Trump's opponents.
	People that Trump doesn't like.
	Like Hobbs, the governor of Arizona.
	Yeah, I mean, probably people that deserve to be thrown under the bus.
	The discussion I've got linked there says that they dove into the cartel's paramilitary wing, which was built by former special forces, special operations forces, including American Green Berets and Army Rangers.
	Pierre, who's the informant, reveals how CJNG adopted U.S. Special Forces training protocols coordinated with the Mexican and Central American operatives and how corrupt officials tipped them off of four military operations.
	That's a really interesting story there.
	Kind of what McGregor and Tucker Carlson were talking about.
	Next up.
	You know, I'm wondering how close the Biden administration actually worked with the cartels.
	I think they were colluding minimally.
	And I'm wondering if any military, American military, actually worked with the cartels.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And they got him.
	Isn't it interesting to capture this guy like a month after?
	Trump comes into office, and he was untouchable during the Biden administration.
	So this is going to be another scandal for the Democrats, your governor of Arizona, some of these border people.
	And there's going to really be a lot of leverage that they can apply to compromise the Mexican officials, to get them in line.
	So they can use this, if he wants to, as hard medicine to enforce his...
	His war.
	They've got the right guy.
	Okay, over the last two months, the S&P and the crypto market have raised a combined $5.5 trillion worth of market cap.
	You know, we've had some just nasty down days.
	You know, Meta had like 20 up days in a row.
	What do you think has precipitated those drops, Russ?
	I don't think it was just the trade war.
	I think it's this blowing out the budget by two trillion dollars that, you know, the thing that Massey's lone voice voted against.
	I mean, it's just, you know, people are throwing in the towel on the United States.
	I think it's sort of the erasure of the Trump pump and dump after the election.
	And then he comes in and does a bunch of meme coins.
	Ripping, you know, ripping his followers off.
	Yeah, how's that market reacting to his emphasis on tariffs?
	Well, I don't think it's good.
	It's not good.
	You know, he's got, he does too many pump and dumps and he manipulates the markets and he's got people thinking, oh, well, Trump's going to tip me off so I can make money in the market.
	It doesn't work that way.
	So I think it's basically deconstructing the markets.
	Which is really awful.
	So you've got this big reversal of crypto.
	Let's look at the crypto market.
	Big reversal of crypto flows.
	Young, new, highly speculative investors, aka Trump tards, ignored taxes last year, especially in crypto coin markets.
	The IRS is now on hand to claim its share.
	They all now need money in a declining market.
	So they have to pay capital gains from last...
	Last year, they probably weren't really figuring it would amount to much.
	And then meanwhile, the market is falling apart and they're trying to sell their coins into a declining market.
	So here's the record weekly outflow from cryptos, which is almost historic.
	So that's going on.
	Trump's attempt to...
	Corral and manipulate.
	And I don't know what he's thinking.
	He just thinks he's some kind of a omnipotent god.
	And it just doesn't really work that way.
	Trump to lead charge to primary Thomas Matthew.
	Here's one where Israeli settlers loot Palestinian livestock.
	There they are, they're going in to steal their livestock.
	There they are.
	A couple scenes.
	Here they're starving these people and then they're taking their livestock.
	Right.
	And somebody had the audacity to put it in my Twitter account and when I put this up called me a Nazi for revealing this.
	Shutting off electricity so they can't desalinate the water.
	And remember the rule of three.
	Three minutes without air, three days without water, three weeks without food.
	This is just ghastly.
	And again, they've stopped the humanitarian aid coming in, the trucks, you know?
	Right, right, right.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable the evil that they get away with.
	No one says anything.
	You think Trump will ever say anything against what they do to the Palestinians?
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	If you post something like this, they'll call you a Nazi.
	I mean, it just...
	It's just water off the back.
	Who even cares about this stuff anymore?
	But here's a new meme.
	This meme's been around a while.
	If I don't steal it, somebody else will.
	Sort of the Zion mentality.
	Yeah, I love that.
	I love that.
	God, does that capture it exactly?
	All right.
	We got...
	Oh, the brain of Trump's watch this.
	You guys will get a kick out of this.
	The audience will like this.
	Here's the brain, the Trump plan.
	And we got the sound.
	You hear it?
	Now we can hear it now.
	That's for me.
	I manifest stuff with my weakness.
	I sell Louisiana gift cards to give us more treasure.
	It's over to last yet a Russian disaster.
	It's cold and always bad weather.
	Cause the travel plan is back in action.
	Well, the concept of it is anyway.
	You don't simple math, but stop taking a bath and give it all money away.
	Oh, and stop giving money away.
	Now the doctrine of Monroe that never instilled any fear.
	If you want to play Cherokee, roll out some tariffs, then make it cover both hemispheres.
	I'm the person in the Oregon Treaty.
	President Polk Steel was a total wreck.
	The 49th Earl, that was very unfair as well, so I'm moving it up to Quebec.
	Close the trunk, quiet!
	It's back in action, but the concept of it is anyway.
	It all simple now, but stop taking a bath and giving our money away.
	I said stop giving our money away.
	Now the FedEx, Hawaii.
	Was Obama even born there?
	To protect some sugar?
	We all got sugar, I'll sell it, and no one will care.
	The Marshall Plan was a scam.
	I'd never pick Europe to invest.
	Economics, they had it made.
	They can pay us back with some interest.
	Cause the Trouble Plan is back in action.
	Well, the concept of it is anyway.
	Get all simple math, but stop taking a bath.
	They're giving our money away.
	I've been stop giving our money away.
	Stop giving up money and waiting.
	Really?
	New hit, single.
	Right.
	Trump voters waiting on the Epstein files.
	There they are sinking into the waves.
	I'm selling the Panama Canal to BlackRock.
	He gives the fingers to the Trump voter sinking in the waves.
	Trump tards after the latest crypto pump and dump.
	This is why I hate it.
	Joaquin Phoenix.
	There's kind of a trusting soul in his life, and he finally really gets seriously blackpilled and finds out the skullduggery out there, which I think this could be happening to a lot of people.
	I think this is actually a very accurate video.
	And when they start turning on Trump, they're going to hate him with a passion.
	And the guy is just such a clown.
	I mean, he does this.
	He's not even funny anymore.
	I mean, 10 years ago, he was kind of entertaining, kind of funny.
	You know, he does this advertisement for Elon Musk in front of the White House and has this voice that he uses to sort of sell things, his salesman voice.
	It's just really sickening.
	My last article basically explains that he's the battering ram that the controllers are using to bring us to one world government.
	He's going to create such havoc in this world.
	And, you know, his marriage with the technocrats, you know, all of that, it's all part of it, you know?
	Well, the whole idea of one world government.
	The leaders of Canada and Germany, they're from, you know...
	Central banks and Blackrock, you know?
	I mean, so we know where we're going, you know?
	Well, it's also looting.
	Like the scene where they're looting the Palestinian cattle, I mean, that's going to be applied to everybody.
	And I think that's also his role as a looter.
	So, bad week for Israeli propaganda.
	Massive shift in how U.S. citizens view Israel.
	That's what I'm seeing.
	It's really happened in the last week or so.
	This is very important.
	The people see their freedoms being eroded and their pockets being picked by a blackmailed U.S. political establishment all to prop up an apartheid state that is committing genocide.
	So you've got this Ian Carroll guy who inexplicably gets invited on Joe Rogan.
	They had a pretty open discussion of it.
	It could have been a little better, but this is about as good as it gets for us.
	Talked with Joe Rogan and talked about Epstein.
	You know, really talked about the motivations for all of a sudden not revealing the files.
	And so that's a big audience that's not normally hearing this stuff.
	So Ian Carroll basically said it's to protect Israel, right?
	That's why they didn't bring out the files.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and no real argument from Rogan either.
	Yeah.
	It's going mainstream.
	So anyway, I'll return it back to you.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Let's see if there's anything else.
	State Department will use artificial intelligence to search for pro-Hamas students to deport them.
	Think about that!
	You're using artificial intelligence to spy on people?
	To deport them?
	Yeah.
	I mean, the Cheka didn't have that.
	Yeah, they're prosecuting people for hate crimes, hate speech now on the internet.
	You know, they're doing it in They're doing it in Germany.
	And it's only a matter of time before they start arresting people in America for the same thing.
	You say something that they don't like, you know, against Israel or some shit like that, and there's going to be a knock at your door and you're going to be taken away.
	That's where all of this is headed.
	Yeah, and we knew this was going to happen.
	Pam Bondi says that Israeli national security information will be redacted from Epstein files.
	This is so predictable.
	Two months ago, going into inauguration.
	You got the word national security, and you got it right.
	I mean, this was an Israeli op.
	Yeah.
	Okay, back to you, Jim.
	I'll stop share.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, good.
	Thanks, Russ.
	That was all excellent.
	And Joaquin, your thoughts?
	I'll open the lines for callers here at the next break in five minutes.
	I think that America is finally waking up.
	They're realizing that the honeymoon is over.
	The guy's been in there for almost now two months.
	He's done a few nice things, but it's all cosmetic.
	You know, this whole DEI, anti-wokeism.
	Yeah, yeah, we like it, you know, but it's all...
	Two genders, man!
	Two genders!
	Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just skin-deep kind of bullshit.
	Anything substantial, the guy's going in the opposite wrong direction, you know?
	So I think more Americans are seeing through it.
	And of course...
	They now have a low opinion.
	You know, they've even done the studies, the surveys, and they're saying, oh, yeah, Israel's at its lowest, and Palestinians have the sympathy of Americans in the world and all this kind of stuff.
	Well, let's see some action to protect the Palestinians and action against Israel.
	It never happens.
	They get away with everything.
	We'll see what happens when...
	Let's see what happens when Israel opens up on Gaza again.
	That'll be a key moment when they start just, you know, murdering people again.
	Because right now they still sort of have a ceasefire in place.
	Once that goes away, then Trump's momentum is really going to crumble.
	Because he just doesn't have the good faith backing anymore, I don't think.
	Well, my confidence in the man has been thoroughly shaken.
	It was bad enough that he had a cabinet that was 60% Jewish and 100% Zionist.
	But now I think he overplayed his hand.
	I think it's become too obvious.
	And threatening the Palestinians that if they don't turn over all the hostages, they're going to be dead.
	I mean, how bad is that?
	Tactful or subtle or diplomatic about that.
	Does he expect the people in Gaza to grab these hostages?
	Is that what he expects?
	The people that live there are supposed to know where the hostages are when the Israelis don't even know?
	Is that sort of the logic there?
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	Join the conversation.
	816. Yeah, hello.
	Yeah, Brian.
	Can you hear me this time?
	I'm sorry.
	No, everything you're talking about, I've been following that situation on the Ukrainian battlefield around Prokursk or whatever.
	I told you there's that lithium mine over there next to it.
	And it's just playing out the way I knew it would.
	You know, you have to remember some of these Russian generals were Freemasons.
	You know, Ukrainian generals were Freemasons.
	When the Russians started pushing into that area...
	It's like Larry Fink with BlackRock called and said, oh, oh, I need that.
	I've got, you know, money invested in that lithium mine.
	And then suddenly these reports come out, oh, the Russians are weak in that area.
	They can't do anything.
	And then, of course, the Ukrainians have a little counteroffensive to terrorists and pro-curse, even when things are collapsing and cursed, and they push the Russians back.
	So, you know, they always play both sides.
	And, you know, if you know anything about the Edith Cavell affair in World War I, or you know anything about the deputy head of MI6 in World War II who worked for Rockefeller, you know...
	It's just right there.
	They talk amongst themselves.
	And like with Edith Cavell, she discovered that train in Belgium that had supplies from the Allies for the Germans.
	So the Allies called the Germans and said, you've got to kill this girl.
	She's exposed this.
	And so what do the Germans do?
	They execute her.
	It's that way throughout history.
	They always know what the other side's doing.
	What I would love to do is see what the radio traffic between all these three Masonic lodges on both sides so you can figure out what's really going on.
	So that's what I have to talk about.
	Joaquin?
	Off the topic of what Brian was just talking about, but have you heard that this Chrysia Freeland, the Canadian, I guess she's the deputy prime the Canadian, I guess she's the deputy prime minister, and she's actually calling for nukes,
	She wants the European nations, France and UK, to give Canada nuclear weapons to protect themselves against America.
	This woman, first of all, she's Ukrainian, a Ukrainian Jew at that, and she's coming off the wall with this shit.
	You know, she lost the election to the central banker, Mark Carney, and she lost by a huge percent.
	He won by, he had 85% of the vote of the Liberal Party.
	And I guess he got less than 15%.
	But yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
	We have these people that are maniacs that are actually in the national government.
	So it's anti-American sentiment?
	She's super anti-American?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This Krista Freeland, yeah.
	You know, because of the whole tariff trade war thing going on now.
	They've got to protect themselves.
	Give us some nukes!
	Well, you know, after these tariffs started up on Canada, Trudeau was 20 points behind in the polls.
	Now he's running even.
	They rallied around Trudeau.
	406 called in.
	You didn't give me a chance to bring you on to the show.
	406, call in again and give me a chance and I'll bring you in.
	Go ahead.
	I thought he conceded already and stepped down over the weekend.
	Maybe the party is running even with Carney.
	Yeah, I think Carney is from his same party.
	Oh, he is?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Basically...
	He's the selectee that Justin himself chose, you know, the central banker.
	He ran the Bank of England along with the Bank of Canada before that.
	They replaced him right when the trail starts coming up, and it gave the liberals a boost to break even.
	Okay, that's what's transpired.
	A new candidate.
	And the tariffs.
	Got them back in the game.
	But Trump is like, you know, he's going for it.
	It's a whole big trade war now.
	To me, I think it's all kind of like a sleight of hand, misdirection, wag the dog, you know.
	Brian's suggesting the Freemasons on both sides are telling each other what's going on.
	Is that your take, Brian?
	Absolutely.
	You know, look at in World War II. You had the deputy director of MI6, Dancy.
	The director was Victor Rothschild.
	And when Dancy was in there, he worked for Rockefeller before the war.
	He was closely associated with one of these deep state, you know, New World Order type Germans.
	And what he was doing is when the Allies were parachuting in these resistance fighters, these guerrillas, these were the top people from the Netherlands, from France, from wherever, that, you know, were the kind of people you wanted in your government.
	Well, he would tell his buddy, the German who was in the Gestapo, You know, the times of the flight, who was involved and whatever.
	And then when they would parachute in, they would murder them, okay?
	They would send them to one of their camps and they would kill them all.
	And, you know, so they were cooperating back and forth.
	It's the same with the Edith Cavell affair in Ukraine, that Proshegan, who was, you know, even had dinner a lot of times with Putin.
	You know, it was the same there.
	Zelensky was giving Proshegan the coordinates of where they had a lot of the port going that they just sent to Bakhmut, their exact coordinates, so he could, you know, rain artillery shells down on them, and then he would get the money.
	They would give Proshegan the money in his account.
	And so the Russians cut off his artillery shells, and then he was bitching about it.
	And then he was the one that had that march to Moscow, and it was because they wanted him to replace Putin.
	But thank God there's some white hats in Russia that put that bomb on his plane and took him out.
	In every war, it's that way.
	They're always working back and forth, and they know exactly what the other side's doing.
	Joaquin, do you think the death of Boghossian was a good thing?
	Yeah, I think he went way too far being a traitor to Putin.
	Yeah, so he kind of got what he deserved, I think.
	Russ?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I think you can't be a strong-armed enemy of Putin.
	He'll get rid of you.
	It's a dictatorship.
	They do have elections in Russia, right?
	Do we just judge them all to be rigged?
	I think that's an assumption by a lot of people.
	But then again, Putin's been a pretty good leader for Russia.
	He's brought him back.
	I think Putin is legitimately popular.
	It's like Bashir al-Assad.
	He had the support of 80% of the Syrian people.
	We couldn't bring democracy to Syria because it was already a democracy.
	I mean, it's also crazy the bullshit we're given by our Department of State and our government.
	It's endless.
	And now look at the mess in Syria.
	It's horrible what's going on there.
	Surprise, surprise.
	All the Israelites and Christians are beheading thousands of them.
	Terrible, terrible, terrible.
	And money came from USAID to support this whole operation.
	Yeah.
	And they used Israeli autotrons.
	They used people that got out of the refugee camps, brainwashed them, a lot of MKUltra.
	The main leadership, there's a lot of those guys.
	And a lot of foreign mercenaries, too.
	Murder, rape, killing, real popular activities among a certain group.
	And always, always, it's Israel and America that's funding them, arming them, training them, you know, every time.
	Turns out USAID also funded the BLM uprisings that rioted in all of our cities, and it was being funded by USAID. How bad is that?
	Oh, really?
	They pinned them on that?
	They're traitors.
	Isn't that just disgusting beyond words?
	Well, let's see, you know...
	Let's see the justice be done with the J6. And also, I think there's a lot of crimes with the riots that went on that the Democrats have completely gotten away with.
	No one's gone to jail for that.
	Right.
	You know, the way Soros operates is he puts in a small seed money into one of these NGOs and then just...
	I mean, it's the classic Jewish method of just looting the government to fund your operations just by putting in seed money.
	Because that's how they work.
	You contribute a little bit, we'll match you.
	And they really match.
	Brian?
	You have further thoughts?
	Brian?
	Well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know where to start.
	Yeah.
	When you mentioned Menaka Mendel Schneerson and the whole Christ thing, and, you know, Veterans Today had an article.
	There's a lot of people who don't even believe he exists, but I got that he did, and that he basically, you know, he went to India, and he was like a Buddhist.
	And Veterans Today had an article that Christ was a Buddhist, and basically he was.
	The Book of Thomas was like right out of Buddhist text.
	This whole thing on Christ, he's totally different than what they tell you.
	And what they did, when you're a Christian, you're actually in a pagan black magic ritual, okay?
	If you study what the Romans believed, they believed in sophism or something.
	And it's this belief that God had a son, and after three days he was risen.
	All this stuff has been transplanted from ancient Egypt and put in Christianity.
	If you look at the text from the Bible from the first century when they had the council in Icia, there was a forensic Bible guy in the 1800s.
	His first name was Constantine something.
	He went back and just...
	Observe that all of this stuff was made up by Emperor Constantine because before they believed in all these individual gods, like the Companion Bible, that there was Zeus, there was Prometheus, all these gods, and he wanted to unite all these religions because it was easier for him to rule over his kingdom.
	So they totally made all that stuff up, and they used basically pagan ritual for black magic and all this stuff.
	Jesus made a thousand loaves of bread and fish and all that.
	It's all parody.
	None of that ever happened, okay?
	The virgin birth happened over the constellation Virgo.
	The kiss that Judas gave Christ, that happened in Scorpio, because scorpions leave you like lips on your cheeks when they bite you.
	All of that stuff corresponds to certain things happening under the signs of the zodiac.
	And so Christians are basically, unbeknownst to them, pagan worshippers.
	And that's where a lot of our problems stem from.
	Well, I can certainly see Christianity as an amalgam of a whole lot of diverse elements that existed before.
	I don't know if Christianity can be blamed as being the central source of problems today.
	I'd have a hard time swallowing that.
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	Well, I think a lot of it came from the Anunnaki's, you know, the ones that flew down in the spaceships.
	I think it was the Philistine rabbis got together and started, you know, coming up with the Old Testament, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is, you know, folklore and fiction and all the rest.
	Yeah, and they also, you know, they worship.
	Many deities.
	Well, the Christians decided, yeah, for control's sake, let's just worship one God, you know?
	So they combined it all into one God, monotheism.
	Period.
	In the Episcopal Church in South Macedonia, I was wondering, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, are we talking about one God or three?
	Yes, too.
	Yeah, this stuff's all...
	The Trinity.
	It's not Father's Son.
	And when you read Albert Pike, you can determine that.
	He knew that.
	Albert Pike was a high-level Antichrist demon in the Freemasons.
	And he said the easiest way to break that...
	The perfect triangle is go after the feminine side, and that's why we have all this attack on the feminine aspect.
	They hide everything.
	Russ, you might get a word in here.
	Yeah, a lot of this stuff did come out of India and Babylon.
	The different mythology that sort of became part of Christianity, is there's a lot of mythology there.
	It's not like, where did it come from?
	How did it get established?
	And what I believe happened is they went into Alexandria, because Alexandria had the Great Library, and that was the collection point for all the religions.
	And they were really serious about studying this stuff and concocting stuff and doing experimental religions.
	They tried to launch a lot of other religions that never took off.
	And so the genesis of Christianity really came out of the work at Alexandria.
	And passed on to the Greeks, and then the rest is history.
	So Brian, how do you think Trump's faring with the American people today?
	Well, everything is going to change.
	We're getting closer to that shift I keep telling you about that happens every 26,000 years.
	And the energy is going up and it creates a situation where people will start, you know, listening to people like me and you where they didn't in the past.
	They'll go, God, I think those guys are telling me the truth.
	And you're going to have more and more of that.
	You know, there's going to be blowback.
	It's going to come back on all these Zionists, and then they're going to be in trouble.
	It's coming.
	We're at the end of a 25,800-year cycle.
	Every sign of the zodiac is 2,150 years, and if you take all 12 times...
	Signs of the Zodiac times 2,150, you get 25,800 years.
	It was supposed to have...
	Or 80 years.
	Or 80 years.
	It's also an 80-year cycle.
	Brian, do you think the public is increasingly seeing Trump as a Zionist?
	That Trump is not actually America first, but Israel?
	Oh, yeah.
	And there's going to be more and more people wake up to who he is.
	So, I mean, just think of the difference between all of us now over how we felt during Trump's first term.
	A lot of this you can attribute to the fact that we've got more of this energy in for the shift, and it just wakes people up.
	And it'll continue.
	Their old tricks don't work anymore.
	It used to be they would do all this stuff that they've done, you know, making Trump look good, and it would have carried over.
	But now people are saying, well, wait, there's something wrong with this guy.
	And it's going to continue to grow.
	Of course, Kamala would have been intolerable.
	I mean, we couldn't have a continuation of what's been going on here under the Biden admin.
	In fact, it turns out it wasn't, Biden really had nothing to do with it.
	It was the auto pen that was signing all these EOs.
	I mean, the scandal is just enormous.
	And eventually they're going to turn to who was the man behind the mask.
	I think it's so inevitable.
	We have attorneys general are suggesting all these executive orders are null and void, and I believe the Supreme Court will ultimately rule that's exactly right.
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	Yeah, that's interesting that it came out this week about the auto ban.
	Yeah, I guess legally all of them are null and void.
	Everything that the guy did, you know, because he wasn't in charge.
	How convenient for Trump, though, right?
	In other words, like six dollars.
	All the Biden orders are null and void.
	How convenient for Trump.
	Six felons were pardoned using the auto pen in Washington, D.C. when Biden was in St. Croix on a vacation.
	It had nothing to do with that.
	So I think it was Hunter and Jill who were controlling the auto pen.
	Probably.
	Yeah, Jill.
	Hunter was the smartest guy he ever knew.
	There you go.
	And I think the only signature that was different was the one that...
	He declared himself out of the race.
	I know, it's fascinating.
	They roll him in in his wheelchair and bow out.
	What's going on?
	What's the story with Biden now?
	Any stories about him, or is he just evaporating?
	He's all put to hear nothing from sight.
	We might never even see him again.
	I mean, they want to put him in a big hole and tell them.
	Just kind of wondering how that worked.
	Is he being spotted at the beach down in Delaware?
	Where he spent most of his presidency?
	There's a huge amount about the auto pen out there now, though.
	I mean, this is a growing scandal.
	Brian, you picked up on that, I presume?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, and think about it.
	It's there because it...
	Furthers the popularity of Trump and his mandate, so that way when they hit us with no-hide laws or whatever, all this other Zionist stuff that they have in store for coming from Trump, it'll seem a little more palatable.
	I don't think they would have ever let it come out.
	You can't let the no-hide laws come into play, because that involves executing every Christian.
	I mean, it's a massive...
	Guillotine for everyone who's a non-Jew.
	Well, not exactly.
	Specifically, they say that many Christians can serve as slaves.
	Oh, yeah, but can serve as slaves.
	You've got to kill a bunch of them.
	You've got to have the slaves on hand.
	All those Christians can sure be grateful they can be slaves to the Zionists, to the Jews.
	Yeah, the Trump tards.
	They'll be slaves.
	I mean, wasn't that $500 million, you know, that included the Jewish superiors and each of them at 2,800 slaves?
	I think that is one explanation I've been given for the calculation.
	Joaquin, are you akin to this?
	Not the historical part, but, you know, the Jewish supremacism is so out there, and, you know, they regard the goyim as the lower class that deserve to be dead, or maybe are serving if you're a nice boy and girl, you know?
	I mean, and that's the attitude.
	That is the attitude of these people that consider themselves the chosen people from God, and it's the opposite.
	They're the chosen from Satan.
	And their motto is, if I don't steal it, somebody else will.
	That's their motto.
	I love it.
	Brian?
	Pontius Pilate's wife kept a diary back then during the crucifixion of Jesus, and she said he was blonde-haired, blue-eyed.
	So he was an Aryan.
	He was the total opposite of what they...
	Where does this blonde-eyed, blue-eyed, blonde-haired fellow come from?
	Well, you know, that's interesting because the haplogroups of the Egyptians, I'm talking genetics.
	I'm talking genetics.
	Yeah, there's something to it because if you look at the haplogroups and genetics of the pharaohs, They're very related to the British and the Irish, Celtics.
	Isn't that ironic?
	Yeah.
	Not the modern-day Egyptians.
	I mean, that's completely different.
	The Irish blood is blonde hair, blue-eyed, RH negative.
	That's what I am.
	And that's why they always have the TV commercials of black guys and white girls, because you can't...
	You can't have souls that are higher level like ours that understand things when you mix things up like that.
	You just get peons, and they want us all being peons.
	So that's why they do it.
	So, anyway.
	And I'm RH negative, blonde hair, blue eyed, and my third eye works.
	My telepathy works.
	And I think I know a little bit more than most of the people.
	Thanks, Brian.
	Thanks for calling in.
	We're about to the end.
	Brian, thank you for calling Joaquin a final thought.
	No, I'm not good for final thoughts.
	Russ, Russ, you're good for final thoughts.
	I think that the Gaza, reemergence of Gaza as a conflict or extermination project is going to trigger a lot of problems.
	A lot of reaction.
	I hope so.
	All right.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	Excellent.
	Fearsome threesome, and thank you for the call, Brian.
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