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The Raw Deal (3 March 2025) with special guest, Susan Bradford

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	Not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I'm so much younger than today.
	I never need anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days are gone, and I'm not so self-assured.
	But I'll find the chain of mine.
	I'm going to try a different computer.
	I'm going to try a different computer.
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal this third day of May.
	2025, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B. My special guest, Susan Bradford, is adjusting her camera.
	She'll be visible shortly.
	And I want to begin by expressing my appreciation of Brian Davidson for guest hosting on Friday while I was traveling to Hyannis for the funeral of my brother.
	We had an absolutely sensational Wake on his behalf with most of my younger brothers and sister, and it was sensational.
	Brian, I've heard nothing but good things, so well done.
	Meanwhile, we have a host of developing news that's really quite fascinating.
	Here we begin with one story about the fiasco at the White House vis-à-vis Volodymyr Zelensky.
	Here's one story.
	Ukrainian President Zelensky met with President Trump at the White House Friday.
	Their meeting revealed the truth about why there's no peace deal yet between Russia and Ukraine.
	In a sign of things to come later in the day, Trump greeted Zelensky upon his arrival and savagely trolled the Ukrainian leader as known for traveling from country to country begging for money in a sweater and sweatpants.
	It was rather strange.
	It initially began normally.
	Here he was meeting him.
	He's all dressed up today.
	Thank you very much.
	And of course, that standard of style of dress is his signature, as it were, or he likes to make out that this is somehow heroic or appropriate for a Ukrainian leader at a time of war.
	Later, an intense Oval Office meeting in front of reporters, President Trump and Vice President Vance.
	Completely destroyed Zelenskyy, calling him out for seemingly wanting the war between Ukraine and Russia to continue.
	Let me pull up a bit of a video here of it, because this text really doesn't do justice to what...
	A seven-year-old girl attends a birthday party at a local...
	Get it?
	There are, of course...
	Tony, what advice?
	I've actually watched and seen.
	And he should be thankful, and he must want peace.
	Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance just bodied, tag-teamed, WWE-style, in the White House, Voldemort Zelensky.
	You actually hear the cocaine leaving the guy's body when he gets atomized.
	I'm going to play you the full thing, but this is the heater of a moment.
	What a banger.
	Go.
	Talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
	Yes, but if...
	Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
	Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
	You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict.
	Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
	I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
	Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
	And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
	A lot of questions.
	Let's start from the beginning.
	First of all, during the war, Everybody has problems.
	Even you.
	But you have nice ocean.
	And don't feel now.
	But you will feel it in the future.
	God bless.
	You don't know that.
	God bless.
	God bless.
	You will not have the war.
	Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
	We're trying to solve a problem.
	Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
	I'm not telling you.
	Because you're in no position to dictate that.
	You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
	We're going to feel very good.
	We're going to feel very good and very strong.
	You're right now not in a very good position.
	You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and it happens to be right about it.
	You're not in a good position.
	You don't have the cards right now.
	With us, you start having cars.
	Right now, you're playing cars.
	You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
	You're gambling with World War III. You're gambling with World War III. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
	It's back to you.
	More than a lot of people say they should have.
	Have you said thank you once?
	No, in this entire meeting that you said thank you, you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October, offers some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
	Please, you think that...
	If you will speak very loudly about the war, you can...
	He's not speaking loudly.
	He's not speaking loudly.
	Your country is in big trouble.
	Can I answer?
	No, no.
	You've done a lot of talking.
	Your country is in big trouble.
	I know.
	You're not winning.
	You're not winning this.
	You have a damn good chance of coming out okay because of us.
	Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong.
	From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone.
	And we are thankful.
	I said thanks in this cabinet.
	You haven't been alone.
	Susan, I love your take.
	I'm coming just once.
	I'm going to leave the room and I'm going to join for a different hold on one second.
	Okay, okay.
	That's just fine.
	You do that.
	We'll see what we can do.
	Here's another report now.
	This is a Breitbart report about Susan's rejoining.
	Trump kicked Zelensky out of White House.
	Cancels.
	Trump kicked Zelensky out of the White House, canceled press conference after Ukrainians unhinged Oval Office outburst.
	President...
	Oh, excellent.
	I can see you now.
	President Donald Trump kicked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky out of the White House Friday after Zelensky made disrespectful remarks in front of the media at a planned private talks and expected signing of the much-discussed mineral deal.
	Following the verbal skirmish in the White House and Zelensky's accident, the White House confirmed the Ukrainian president did not sign the mineral deal.
	The president subsequently released a statement saying Zelensky may return to the White House when he's ready for peace.
	We had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today.
	Much was learned.
	That could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure.
	It's amazing when it comes out through a motion.
	And I've determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage of negotiation, Trump said in a piece on social media.
	Susan, give me your thoughts.
	I mean, this is one of the most fascinating developments of recent political time.
	Yes, it certainly is.
	And I apologize for my camera issues.
	Apparently, I haven't been using Zoom for a while.
	But, you know, the first thing that struck me is that I know that Donald Trump is establishing a sovereign fund for the United States.
	My thought is that in order to fund the sovereign fund, typically in Saudi Arabia and other countries, they're funded by natural resources.
	So I think that he is kind of moving, hopefully moving away from relying upon taxes from the American people.
	He may be able to extract the wealth from the sovereign funds to eliminate the national debt.
	And I think he might be trying to somehow Tell us a little bit more about the idea of a sovereign fund, Susan.
	How does that work?
	That's a good question.
	A lot of countries have them.
	So they're able to take, you know, they're funded with natural resources and investments.
	And essentially the government in a way assumes the role of a corporation and then they invest on behalf of their constituents in order to invest, you know, to use that money to then invest in the infrastructure, the economy.
	Now, sometimes you can wind up having maybe a type of corporate fascism like you do in Saudi Arabia, You know, the money essentially serves to benefit the elite.
	But I think maybe with sufficient checks and balances, we can have a good pool of money.
	Let's say we have trillions of dollars of untapped oil and natural energy in the United States.
	We could then use that for ourselves and then sell it overseas, use the money we have to invest in TikTok or other companies, and then the proceeds would then be reinvested in the American people.
	Well, here we have an interesting commentary about it from John Leak.
	Zolensky's contact indicates he's accustomed to Ukraine.
	Calling the shots.
	Everything about Zelensky's contact in the Oval Office, starting with his dress, indicates he has grown accustomed to believing the Ukrainian operatives are in charge of U.S. policy with regard to Ukraine and Russia.
	Serious psychologists, including criminal, should carefully study his behavior and statements.
	I cannot think.
	Of a single instance in U.N. history in which a foreign head of state, never mind one who's petitioning the U.S. for assistance, has acted in such an impute and imperious way.
	Though British forces burned down the Capitol in the White House in 1814 during the War of 1812, the British delegation to the Treaty of Grant the following year treated the American delegation with far more decorum.
	Has the Ukrainian security service been running a blackmail operation in Washington for the last four years?
	Has Ukraine's well-known international money laundering complex been kicking U.S. money back to compliant U.S. politicians since the first tranche of financial and military support was sent to Ukraine?
	And I can tell you emphatically the answer is yes.
	Is Zelensky using cocaine?
	For whatever reason, his behavior is expressive of the long-standing mental habit of believing that Ukrainian agents have been de facto calling the shots in Washington.
	I hope that President Trump and Vice President Pence fully understand the implications of Zelensky's outrageous conduct and what they suggest about who has been in charge of Washington for the last four years, Susan.
	That's a good question.
	Who has been in charge?
	Doesn't it sort of strike you as maybe a little bit scripted that you have individuals within the White House who have some type of loyalty to Russia?
	And maybe, you know, Zelensky is playing his role of, you know, trying to take on, you know, the supporters of Russia and they're kind of socking it to them to score political points for their constituents.
	Well, here's an interesting angle on it.
	Joaquin suggests this was a distraction operation.
	Everything that represents unfolding news developments in today's world are prepared and staged.
	Virtually nothing happens organically and spontaneously anymore in the current geopolitics stage.
	It's all plotted at the stage theater.
	Friday's big show.
	Unfold global display at the White House in front of international press featured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a heated debate with his House President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance.
	In a flash, his Oval Office spectacle conveniently snatched all world attention away from the big story of the week.
	Trump and his attorney general, Pam Bondi, the fiasco of not releasing medophile Jeffrey Epstein files.
	We've seen this rerun many times before.
	It's called Wag the Dog Misdirection.
	Suddenly taking all the heat off, Trump are wailing to expose his former Buddy Epstein's client list.
	Because it's been deemed too incriminating for Zionist Israel, the nation that bribery and blackmail, owns and controls both the U.S. President and U.S. Congress for decades.
	Susan, your thoughts?
	Yes, it's interesting.
	I think one of the most frequently cited names in that black book is Donald Trump.
	And I think ultimately, you know, he's president of the U.S. corporation that was created by by the city of London after the Civil War.
	So ultimately, as president of that corporation, he wants to protect those interests.
	I would be very surprised unless there's some type of outside pressure that he will do much with with the Epstein files, because if he were to do so, he would be.
	Really exposing the networks that overlap with the money laundering and all of these criminal elements that have taken over our federal government.
	Yeah, well, there's much more about it.
	You know, Pam Bondi has acknowledged that she hasn't been given everything the FBI has.
	She's a bit ticked off about it, as well she should.
	I mean, on the other hand, there's a claim she was in on it.
	Frankly, I don't believe that.
	Here's a fascinating story, too.
	Get this.
	Gene Hackman was about to expose Epstein pedophilists before he was killed.
	The news hits like a gut punch this week.
	Gene Hackman, the old-school Hollywood legend of the French connection Unforgiven and Superman, gone.
	Found dead in his Santa Fe home alongside his wife and one of their three dogs.
	A tragedy, sure.
	But the details?
	They're so twisted, even the mainstream media can't whitewash it.
	Something is off.
	Way off.
	And the media are barely scratching the surface.
	Here's what the media won't tell you.
	Gene Hackman wasn't some retired millionaire kicking back in New Mexico.
	He was neighbors with Jeffrey Epstein.
	Yes, that's Epstein.
	And get this, he owned an island right next door to Oprah Winfrey's private island in British Columbia.
	Cozy, right?
	But Gene wasn't playing nice with the elite anymore.
	Word is he was sick to death of the Epstein client list cover-up.
	He told friends he was done watching the deep state and rogue FBI agents shred the truth.
	He was ready to talk, ready to burn it all down.
	Then out of nowhere, he's gone.
	Suspicious doesn't even cover it.
	It's a neon sign screaming foul play.
	And we've got the unfiltered truth coming up.
	Details so chilling, they'll haunt you.
	What went down in that house?
	And why did Gene Hackman's last stand threaten to unravel everything for the untouchable elite?
	Before we dive in, join the TPV free speech community over on Soju.
	Let me just say, Susan, it wouldn't surprise me.
	There you had a...
	Personal contact between Gene Hackman and Jeffrey Epstein.
	He knew the score.
	He was fed up with the bullshit.
	He's had a great career.
	He's willing to let it all hang out.
	I think that's terrific.
	And thus, of course, as a consequence, he's dead.
	This would not surprise me at all.
	Your thoughts?
	That's very interesting.
	I guess it's often difficult to really, you know, know what the truth is, because I would think, you know, just to offer a different view, not that I necessarily think this is what happened, but he was friends with Epstein.
	He knew Epstein.
	So you would think that he would be aware of how dangerous they were.
	He is an actor.
	Did he take the fall, for example?
	I don't know how.
	You know, what the circumstances were with regards to the death.
	I know that he allegedly overdosed or there was some issue with drugs involved.
	But it could be that he was sending a signal that, look, if you want to come forward with telling the truth about Epstein, this is what will happen to you.
	So what happened to him may have been scripted.
	I don't know.
	But it certainly does send a signal either.
	He took the fall or he was sending a signal through acting, you know, that you are not to release those names.
	Well, here's RFK Jr. talking about the money laundering aspect of it.
	Jimmy Dore.
	RFK Jr. Terrific.
	Well, I think he wrecked his political ambitions by backing the genocide in Israel, which is just...
	It's mind-boggling to me, but every other thing he says is hard not to cheer for because he's telling truths that nobody else is telling.
	And it's a shame.
	It's for many reasons.
	It's a shame, his policy on Israel.
	But here, let's watch this.
	This is a war that should have never happened.
	It's a war the Russians tried repeatedly to settle on terms that were very, very beneficial to Ukraine and us.
	The major thing they wanted was for us to keep NATO out of the Ukraine.
	The big military contractors want to add new countries to NATO all the time.
	Why?
	Because then that country has to conform its military purchases.
	The NATO weapon specifications, which means certain companies, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Boeing, and Lockheed get a trap to market.
	March of 2022, we committed $113 billion.
	Just to give you an example, we could have built a home for almost every homeless person in this country.
	We then committed another 24 billion since that two months ago, and now President Biden is asking for another 60 billion.
	But the big, big expenses are going to come after the war, when we have to rebuild all the things that we destroyed.
	Mitch McConnell was asked, can we really afford to send 113 billion to Ukraine?
	He said, don't worry.
	It's not really going to Ukraine.
	It's going to American defense.
	95 years.
	So he just admitted it's a money laundering scheme.
	And who do you think owns every one of those companies?
	BlackRock.
	Yeah, BlackRock.
	So Tim Scott, during the Republican debate, said, don't worry.
	It's not a gift to Ukraine.
	It's a loan.
	So raise your hand if you think that that loan's never getting paid back.
	Yeah, of course it's not.
	So why do they call it a loan?
	Because if they call it a loan, they can impose loan conditions.
	And what are the loan conditions that we impose on?
	Number one, an extreme austerity program, so that if you're poor in Ukraine, you're going to be poor forever.
	Number two, most important, Ukraine has to put all of its government-owned assets up for sale to multinational corporations.
	Including all of its agricultural land, the biggest single asset in Europe.
	Ukraine.
	There's been a thousand years of war fought over that land.
	It's the richest farmland in the world.
	It's the bread basket of Europe.
	500,000 kids almost.
	Ukrainian kids have died to keep that land as part of Ukraine.
	They almost certainly didn't know about this loan condition.
	They've already sold 30% of it.
	The buyers...
	We're DuPont, Cargill, and Monsanto.
	Who do you think owns all of those companies?
	Yeah, BlackRock.
	And then in December, President Biden gave out the contract to rebuild Ukraine.
	And who do you think got that contract?
	BlackRock.
	BlackRock.
	So they're doing this right in front of us.
	They don't even care that we know anymore.
	Because they know that they can get away with it.
	And how do they know that?
	Because they have a strategy.
	And that strategy is an old, old strategy, which is they keep us at war with each other.
	They keep us hating on each other.
	They keep the Republicans and Democrats fighting each other and black against white and all these divisions that they saw.
	So that's the game that's being played.
	You know, Susan, I'm very impressed.
	And nobody else.
	RFK was there displaying tremendous geopolitical awareness.
	I mean, a real insight.
	I mean, that's just impressive as hell.
	Your thoughts?
	I agree with that.
	I mean, this is what he was saying is, you know, reflects.
	Like the decades-old relationship with the public-private partnerships, we have the federal government giving money to corporations that will bomb the country, give money to the defense contractors, and then rebuild the countries, and then more money goes to the defense contractors.
	One thing to add, though, to this is that, and I've written this up in my substat, and that is that BlackRock is being positioned to be acquired by the Israeli Sovereign Fund.
	And I found this because there was an SEC documentation whereby the Israeli Central Bank and BlackRock They answer to one authority within Israel, and the only condition in which those two that could take place is with an Israeli sovereign fund.
	So if BlackRock owns everything, and then the Israeli sovereign fund owns BlackRock, then you have Israel essentially owning the world.
	Staggering!
	So that's something to look out for.
	It's just staggering!
	You know, my impression, Elon Musk with Doge has just been doing a sensational job here, turning up corruption, vast mis-expenditures on that money you cannot trace in the trillions of dollars, Susan, in the trillions!
	I mean, this is just...
	We have needed this so long.
	This is going back and cleaning up all our dirty laundry, and it is grotesque in its dimensions.
	Your thoughts?
	I completely agree with you.
	It's really shocking.
	It reflects the betrayal of the American people.
	We're left holding this debt.
	They've taken trillions of dollars.
	They've shipped it overseas through this vast money laundering scheme.
	There's very little to show for it.
	I think the American people are suffering.
	I'm glad that he's cleaning house.
	Long overdue.
	Let me just add another story here.
	About Madisonians.
	I live near Madison, Wisconsin, right?
	Very liberal city.
	So you got Madisonians coming out in support of Zelensky.
	Madisonians coming out in support of Zelensky.
	But it was just about, just a token, 350 people marched around the Capitol Sunday.
	The protest, President Trump public break with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House Friday.
	Zolensky hero, Trump zero, protesters chanted along with hate doesn't make America great.
	Susan will take a break and then I'll turn the mic over.
	I'll turn the mic over.
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	We have returned.
	My guest, Susan Bradford, whom I'm going to make host, Susan, so you can do any screen sharing you might like to do.
	There you are.
	I'm very pleased to have you back.
	You do such original work.
	Quite brilliant, in my opinion.
	So, you are my guest today.
	Leon.
	Thank you so much.
	Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties, my work is on my other computer, so I don't have it to share.
	I know you wanted to talk about big pharma with the Trump administration, or we can go through money laundering, or I could provide you a number of different topics.
	Money laundering is probably the way to go as an initiation point.
	Okay, so I think your coverage of the Ukrainian war is very apt.
	So we know that since World War II, we have this reorganization of the international financial system under Bretton Woods.
	Saudi Arabia was linked at that point as a strategic partner of the World Bank.
	So the agenda in play was to have the United States fund the development of the world with that money then going to multinationals, which answered to the agenda of the City of London, which wanted to establish a global monopoly on wealth and power.
	During that, one of the reasons why we got into the World War II is that the Rockefellers want to control the Saudi oil, and they basically told the British, look, we'll bring the Americans in, but you have to give us that oil.
	So with that oil, we essentially have the Rockefellers who owe their power to Rothschild in control of our government.
	During the Nixon administration, we saw the launch of the fiat currency and decoupling of gold from the dollar.
	And also, very formally, Saudi Arabia became the official strategic partner of the World Bank.
	So what that did is it opened up.
	With a fiat currency through channels like USAID, which was started by John F. Kennedy, to essentially spend an unlimited amount of money developing the world.
	With Nixon, we had the rise of Henry Kissinger.
	Henry Kissinger worked on behalf of the Rothschilds, and the Rothschilds wanted to reclaim control of our government.
	So they basically began pushing the Rockefellers out of Saudi Arabia.
	The Rockefellers, you know, they did this under the banner of nationalizing Saudi oil.
	So what happened is that on the way out the door, the Saudis, the Rockefellers overproduced the oil, and what resulted is that the Saudi oil reserves were kind of broken.
	They damaged the wells.
	So from that point onward, they realized that they could no longer depend upon Saudi oil for this big global development, for the New World Order.
	That began their new pleas of scarcity.
	We had environmentalism.
	We have to scale down our development.
	So the truth regarding the Saudi oil problem really came to a head during the Bush administration and then moving into the Clinton administration.
	So with the end of the Cold War, We saw that the Russian Christians had reclaimed control of the Kremlin.
	But there was an agenda in play whereby the Rothschilds and the elite were going to let the Berlin Wall fall down.
	That would lead the West into thinking that communism had been defeated, they could let down their guard, and then the agenda would continue.
	So the Russians, thinking that the West was now supporting them, they opened up channels for money laundering.
	And this began in earnest with the first Bush administration, then with the Clinton administration.
	And the Clinton administration allowed Harvard University to take control of the USAID money going into Russia.
	You had Larry Summers, who worked for the World Bank, and he was a partner of the Rothschilds.
	He helped funnel that money into Russia.
	We had various individuals involved.
	There were the lobbying team with Preston Gates, which is the lobbying firm for Microsoft.
	You have Wilbur Ross, the advisor to Trump and to the Rothschilds, George Soros.
	On the other side, kind of collecting this money, the money is being shored up with the reformers who were helped.
	Put into positions of power by this group, and the reformers then began to redirect the money to these oligarchs.
	So we have this new oligarch class, billionaires, wealthy off our money, wealthy off gutting the Russian economy.
	And these became the individuals who then began to invest in high tech.
	So we have this Russian connection.
	During the Clinton administration, They began to kind of, they had to address the issue with the Saudi oil.
	And there was a decision made to, that's what, you know, we saw the neoconservatives getting together, Project for the New American Century.
	And I'm not going to get into, you know, whether 9-11...
	You know, the details of that.
	But what it did is it set off an agenda.
	And that agenda allowed us to attack Iraq.
	And then that oil went to Israel.
	The reason why that was important is that the petrol dollar was on the way out.
	And with that was our...
	I think I have to get some water.
	Yeah, Susan, relax.
	I know...
	Not having your computer handy makes a difference.
	I can fill in all the details about 9-11.
	I mean, there was no justification for attacking Iraq.
	Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
	Neither, for that matter, did Afghanistan.
	It's fascinating that Israel became the beneficiary.
	So if you use the standard question about the Commission of Crimes, cui bono, who benefits?
	No one benefited anywhere near the magnitude Israel benefited from 9-11, and of course it was an Israeli op.
	It was a product of the fertile imagination of Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Umar around the time of the dissolution of the Soviet Union to devise a plan that would be a justification for drawing American forces into the Middle East.
	To take out the modern Arab state that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran.
	And it succeeded very successfully right up to in Syria when Russia and Iran came to its defense at the request of Bashar al-Assad, the democratically elected president of Syria.
	Susan, to this day!
	Most Americans think we were in Syria to bring democracy to Syria, and Syria was already a democracy!
	It's absolutely stunning.
	And now, of course, with the collapse of Assad, Israel is close to completing its Greater Israel Project, which, of course, includes expanding Israel from that.
	Euphrates to the Nile, taking a big chunk of Egypt, virtually all of Saudi Arabia, Syria, all of Lebanon, all of Jordan, even a chunk of Iraq.
	So it's just astonishing.
	And now you're telling me the invasion of Iraq actually led to oil being presented to Israel for its benefit.
	That is just atrocious.
	That's just so awful, Susan.
	Tell us more.
	Yes, it is atrocious.
	So, you know, why would the government do that?
	The government did this because since the Civil War, we have been a corporation owned by the Rothschilds, and our original government has been out of session.
	So we have, you know, with like the Federal Reserve Act, for example, it was never passed by Congress, not by a quorum.
	It was just...
	Presented, and then it was signed off by a few legislators in Wilson, and then that kind of allowed the foreign bankers control of our dollar.
	But going back to 9-11, we have this scheme in place whereby the United States was looked at as an asset, as a colony, and the City of London was extracting our wealth.
	They were using it to develop the world, to steal the resources.
	And of course, this was being done with a view to having Israel serve as the government of the world.
	Israel is Rothschild's kingdom.
	They founded it.
	It's their Knesset.
	So we're not looking at being anti-Jewish.
	It's just that it's their agenda, you know, to have Israel running the world.
	But this idea of like around the time when they were realizing that the Saudi, the petrodollar was on the way out, that's when they began to launch BRIC. It was BRIC without the S. Brazil, Russia, India and China.
	South Africa came later.
	They were launching this global warming, the green energy, because that was to curtail the spending on oil.
	And then with the launch of 9-11, you have the rise of Peter Thiel, who was behind using automation to link in our data, to exploit our data, to build up this big technostate.
	So you have this group kind of coalescing around Capitol Hill.
	Bill Gates was very close to Epstein and also to Harvard University and to the Russian oligarchs.
	He was also one of the first companies allowed into Communist China.
	He has been working with the Communist Chinese since the first Bush administration.
	He's working hand-in-hand with them.
	To develop their technologies.
	I have a frog in my throat, I apologize.
	So, Communist China has been working hand in hand with the City of London.
	Communist China was, again, created by the City of London.
	In tandem with the East India Company.
	East India Company was created by Yale University.
	Yale University developed the ideology for Communist China and then they kind of elevated it.
	So by bringing Microsoft into Communist China, having them advise the military, advise the government, you're elevating this country that's going to be like they wanted this to be the global hegemon and to be like the global market where they all expected to make billions, if not trillions of dollars.
	Susan, this is just a perfect illustration where I suggest you're such an independent thinker and brilliant insights.
	Chinese working with the city of London, that sounds fantastic.
	Yale, pioneering all this.
	You've got to expand on this.
	I'm utterly fascinated.
	Okay.
	Well, we know the East India Company.
	The East India Company was taken over by Queen Victoria.
	And also, I found out something interesting about the Magna Carter.
	You know, they always refer to the Magna Carter as that has reinforced our rights.
	During the age of Queen Victoria, who was the first Rothschild monarch in England, only three provisions were left within the Magna Carter.
	One, We reaffirm the power for the city of London.
	They control their own laws, their own courts.
	Essentially, they're above the law.
	Number two, complete freedom from the church.
	Again, controlled by Rothschilds.
	You have the power of the Vatican is unviolable.
	And then three, reaffirms the rights of freemen.
	Well, the freemen, back in the days of King John, from 1215, they were the...
	The nobles who served the monarch and who then received privileges and allowed the monarch to take some of their money.
	So these would be the aristocrats.
	Those were the three groups whose power was reaffirmed by Rothschild during Victoria.
	Those are the key tenants that remain from the Magna Carta.
	But the Yale University was, or actually going back to World War II, at the end of World War II, Prime Minister Winston Churchill and President FDR and Joseph Stalin had agreed to a Rothschild agenda that would involve elevating Communist China to lead the New World Order.
	So the ideology for Communist China was conceived at Yale University.
	Yale Divinity established a base within China.
	They built up Mao Zedong.
	You know, the support was provided, material support was provided by Wall Street.
	And then they essentially took over that market for their multinationals.
	Let me back up just a tad here.
	You said Yale, and then you talked about Yale Theological Seminary.
	And of course, those are separate.
	Those are disparate entities.
	How are you implying they were related?
	Okay, this was the Yale Divinity School.
	There's actually an article in the Yale University that credits the university for driving the communist revolution.
	Really?
	I would love to see that, Susan.
	What a fabulous find.
	It's kind of shocking, but that also accounts for why you have politicians like George H.W. Bush, member of Yale Skull and Boat, who are advancing this communist agenda in China.
	And then I guess you've heard of AIG. It's one of the largest insurance companies in the world.
	This was actually founded by CB Star in China, and it was intended to be like an intelligence network, which worked with the Office of Strategic Services, the precursor to the CIA, which then mapped out all of China, all of the markets for the City of London.
	And then they also provided the intelligence during World War II, where they mapped out what bridges to bomb, what countries to do, what to.
	So that nascent insurance intelligence network became AIG. And then the nephew of CVSTAR was KenSTAR.
	Who then prosecuted the Clintons, or President Bill Clinton, during the impeachment hearings regarding Lewinsky.
	And of course, the Lewinsky hearings was really about diverting attention away from the treason that the Clintons were committing on behalf of Communist China.
	And of course, Ken Starr was one of the attorneys for Jeffrey Epstein.
	So you're looking at a very close network of people, you know, who are You know, perpetuating this agenda against us.
	Susan, tell me a little more about the Epstein thing here and how it figures.
	My understanding has been this was an Israeli spy op to get blackmail evidence on prominent American politicians so Israel could basically run our government.
	We know that the...
	APAC has a handler.
	Thomas Massey says every member of Congress has an APAC handler except for himself, which is just mind-boggling.
	The idea that they're there, they're holding their hand, really their purse string, they got their hand in their wallet.
	I mean, you know, tell me more about this.
	It's just such a stunning...
	This is the...
	Soft underbelly of American politics.
	This is a real where the rubber meets the road and where the dirty deals get done and make a difference and affect every one of us, mostly by misallocating our money.
	That's exactly what it is.
	It is all about misallocating our money.
	Yes, I know that, I mean, the issue with Israel, I think it's a violation of our emoluments clause, you know, which prohibits this foreign influence in our government, you know, so I think that needs to be looked into.
	But the pedophilia thing really came to fore during the Nixon administration, because I think it was during Nixon when they were planning this agenda against us.
	That's when they were normalizing relations with China.
	And according to New York detective Jimmy Boots Rothstein, He said that Watergate was really about recovering a black book of pedophile or, I guess, politicians, Republican politicians who were working, who were compromised through pedophilia.
	And they wanted to recover that black book from the Democratic National Committee.
	And I think it was the Republicans who were on board with this China agenda.
	And I think they were the ones who at first were compromised.
	And then you have...
	Induce them to be supportive of the Chinese agenda?
	This agenda of selling out the country, committing treason, you know, essentially sending all of our money overseas against the interests of the American people.
	And this was being done really in service of the National Crime Syndicate.
	So that would have been led by Roy Cohen.
	Roy Cohen was, of course, an attorney for Trump and others, and Meyer Lansky.
	And I think Roy Cohen then, you know, he was involved in compromising politicians.
	And I think Jeffrey Epstein then continued that same tradition.
	Now, in the mind of the public, Trump is a repulsion, rejection of everything you're describing up until now, of this compromise sending all our money abroad.
	You know, I mean, the whole idea of America first, it has profound roots.
	I mean, you're talking about...
	Decade upon decade upon decade of corruption, assorted blackmail, pedophilia, all this kind of corrupt activity.
	I mean, a big question becomes, how genuine is the Trump revolution?
	Is this real or counter-revolution?
	You know, because it's really responding to, in the short term at least, all the assorted activities of the Biden administration, with all that transgender drag shows for kids, you know.
	Teaching third graders anal sex.
	I mean, it's just grotesque what's happened here.
	And, you know, the American people have rejected it soundly, resoundingly.
	There may be, you know, still a segment of the progressive element of the party that believes in it.
	DEI and all.
	Transgender boys playing in women's sports.
	I find all of that repulsive.
	I repudiate it all.
	But, you know, there's some who hang on there.
	Maybe these 350 Madisonians who are protesting for Zelensky.
	It's astonishing to me.
	Go with it.
	They're protesting.
	Please give our money to this foreign power.
	Please take our money.
	Let's put them on the front line.
	Do they want to fight and die for Ukraine?
	Yeah, go for it.
	My position on Trump is, you know, I think as long as he's willing to serve the American people, I'm with him.
	I'm taking a wait-and-see approach.
	But I know that, you know, he is, he was part of this network.
	And I think he might, at this point, he might be forced or he might be in a position to do something good for us.
	He is doing something good.
	But Donald Trump really came to power during the Nixon administration.
	So he was part of that crew.
	Remember that Roger Stone was part of the Watergate.
	He was a dirty trickster.
	And it was through the connections he made during the Nixon administration that launched a group.
	I can't remember the name, the precursor organization or the original organization, but it became BKSH. And that organization...
	It defended Trump's casino interests.
	It had also represented the Marcos in the Philippines.
	When the Nixon administration was laundering money over to the Philippines, that company that also represented Trump was working with the Philippines.
	And the same company then reappeared during the war on terrorism.
	And this was the company that Promoted the false intelligence reports from Amit Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress that provided false intelligence reports to lead us into war against Iraq.
	And then, of course, this company was acquired by Burstyn Marstetler, which was presided over by Mark Penn, who was a senior advisor to Microsoft, now Trump, and previously the Clintons.
	From this guy.
	Mark Penn.
	What's his name?
	Mark Penn?
	Mark Penn.
	P-E-N-N. He's a media advisor.
	He works also for Microsoft.
	He seems to be a thread tying together a lot of chemistry.
	He is.
	He was the one who, he founded a group called the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which has been backed by Soros money.
	And this was a group that tended to attack Republicans, like Abramoff, DeLay, and then others.
	And this started during the original Abramoff investigation.
	And if you look, what was the Abramoff investigation about?
	That was about a fraud within Florida concerning Sun Cruise which was a casino ship and essentially what was happening is they were wanting to eliminate Sun Cruise as competition to the Seminole Tribe of Florida.
	Now the Seminole Tribe of Florida that was seated by Meyer Lansky and you know the head of the National Crime Syndicate it was also a link to International money laundering.
	Most of the tribal casinos, if not all, were ceded by taxpayer money.
	And then they were used, those casinos were used to then cede MGM, the corporations.
	And it was a great moneymaker for the elite.
	The way that the Sun Cruise was eliminated, it was through fraud within the original loan.
	They created a loan that was designed to implode the business.
	The loan was structured by Wells Fargo.
	Wells Fargo represented all parties who were clients of...
	Preston Gates, which was the Microsoft lobbying firm.
	So you've got Icon Public Affairs, which was Roger Stone's company representing the Trump Organization.
	Trump Organization was bankrolling the Seminole Tribe's casino.
	Then you've got Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist, and you've got Gus Bullis, who was the owner of Sun Cruise.
	All three parties.
	Well, why would Wells Fargo conceive a fraud of this monumental proportion?
	Well, Wells Fargo had acquired the first interstate bank, which was previously directed by Mary Maxwell Gates, the mother of Bill Gates.
	And she was the one who brought the Microsoft operating system to IBM, thereby launching Microsoft into this global behemoth.
	You know, making them now this leader that's driving the technocracy forward upon the nation.
	And then the founding company from which First Interstate Bank came from, it was the Bank of Italy, which has ties to the old Italian mafia, like the bankers from Venice.
	One of the banks that spun off from the Bank of Italy was the Bank of America, which is now the leading institutional investor for World Economic Forum.
	say that last part again, how we get tied into the world of the family forum.
	So the antecedent bank to the first interstate bank over which Mary Maxwell Bank, this was a holding bank that was presided over by Mary Maxwell Gates, who was the mother of Bill Gates, and And the founding bank, the Bank of Italy, one of the spinoffs was Bank of America.
	And Bank of America, of course, is the institutional partner for the World Economic Forum.
	This is fascinating.
	We'll be right back after this break with Susan Bradford.
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	Susan, do continue this quite fascinating survey of recent American political history. do continue this quite fascinating survey of recent American political It is so sordid.
	It's sordid.
	That's an understatement.
	So where did we leave off?
	This was with, I guess, with America and tied into the World Economic Forum.
	Okay.
	So.
	To pull back the curtain a little further, this group that was working with Microsoft, this is back in the Clinton administration, they're a group called the Alexander Strategy Group.
	This was a group that represented Tom DeLay's interest, and they had significant interest with the pharmaceutical lobby as well.
	Big Pharma was wanting to have a big takeover of the pharmaceutical industry to sell their products.
	And the agenda was really pushed by those who were aligned with Bush.
	This was like a conservative agenda.
	And I think that Hillary Clinton was too compromised.
	By 2008 that she was unable to become president.
	And I say that because, according to Jack Abramoff and others, she had removed people from the federal government, including the Department of Justice, put in her own people of power and into power.
	And I believe that she was behind a lot of these partisan prosecutions against Republicans.
	And the purpose of this was to knock them out of power, to cover up crimes.
	Point to scapegoat some people, but then cover up for what was really going on, cover up for these wider issues.
	And she had been called out on this.
	So in order for the agenda to continue, you've got John McCain representing the Republicans.
	He was caught up in this entire Abramoff mess.
	And then you've got Hillary.
	Hillary is too compromised.
	And I believe that Obama was...
	The candidate that they got behind.
	And you see this because you got people like, you got Microsoft behind Obama.
	You got Ken Griffin, the head of Citadel, who was involved with the Wells Fargo fraud behind Obama.
	And these were, you know, traditionally Republican backers.
	Obama, I think his father, or biological father, I believe, worked for Bush.
	He was an assassin for Bush.
	So, Obama pushed forth the Affordable Care Act, the government's takeover of the healthcare industry, but the Obamacare was a rewrite of Romney Care, which was a conservative bill.
	And this was brought forth and pushed through Congress by, I'm trying to think of his name.
	Shoot, his name eludes me.
	But he was a gentleman who worked with Google and with these tech companies to sort of manage the elections to help Obama win the election.
	He was associated with Priorities USA, which worked with Kamala Harris.
	And it's very interesting because you'll see these interests aligning.
	So, for example, Ballard Partners, which is a leading Trump fundraiser, which worked on his transition team to help appoint individuals within the Trump administration, you'll see that among their partners is a consultant to Priorities USA. And I thought that was interesting because if you go back to the 2020 election fraud, I don't know, did you ever follow Maria Zak, her allegations?
	Not to any extent, elaborate.
	Go forward.
	Okay, I wish I could find the name of that gentleman.
	He just...
	Oh, shoot.
	It eludes me.
	But Maria Zak was saying that the election was rigged from Italy.
	It was from a company called Leonardo SPA. So Leonardo SPA was represented by...
	Ballard Partners.
	She said that the money to do this, it was taken, it was redirected from Obama's Iranian deal.
	It was conceived by Obama and then Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi to kind of derail globalism.
	Well, the advisor to Matteo Renzi was this gentleman whose name I can't remember.
	And he also was the advisor to the Prime Minister James Cameron with regards to Brexit.
	So we know that the Brexit vote happened, but then the end result was for the worst for England.
	But there was a group of them.
	The money was laundered through the Vatican.
	You got Newt Gingrich.
	His wife was the ambassador to the Vatican.
	The vote rigging, she was saying, was overseen by Trump's appointees to Rome.
	And these individuals, you have like the Trump people and the Obama people working together to rig the 2020 election.
	The information was broken by Italy.
	They thought Trump was a nationalist, not a globalist.
	They tipped him off.
	What did he do with it?
	He then planned January 6th, which didn't need to happen.
	And then who managed Washington, D.C., which kind of conceived the situation that kind of devastated a lot of patriots?
	It was micromanaged by two lobbying firms.
	The Group DC, which represented Obama interests as campaign workers.
	And then Ballard Partners, which was the representative of Leonardo SPA. So it looked like this was done to deflect attention from what they had done.
	But you'll see that there are a lot of...
	Jim Messina is the name I'm thinking of.
	But you'll see that a lot of these interests keep overlapping.
	And I actually talked to...
	An advisor for Mike Lindell during this period.
	And they kept telling me, you know, that, oh, Trump's going to come back.
	He's going to come back in a few months.
	And I said, how is that possible when his team worked with Obama's team to essentially throw the election?
	And what I was told is that, yes, he did that.
	I said, well, why would he do that?
	They said that the economy was going to collapse.
	And I think that they were planning some type of...
	Bankruptcy reorganization.
	They said the economy would falter.
	Trump did not want a bad economy to be associated with his administration.
	So he agreed to set out that term.
	He was going to fundraise off of election fraud, raising money for himself, and then he would return as a savior.
	And so they said that was part of the strategy.
	This is a big picture about 2020 election, why it was allowed to be lost.
	It was allowed to be lost, and if you look at who was around the election fraud, it was these characters.
	It was micromanaged.
	I think General Flynn, who led the efforts for this disinformation, he had created these audit groups.
	And that not only did they reaffirm the election for Biden, but even the Democrats called out the groups for a lot of alleged fraud, like miscounting and irregularities and so forth.
	It was, of course, massive fraud.
	I mean, there's no doubt about it.
	I mean, they dumped in like 15 million additional votes for Biden during that period when there was, you know, they took the break, which was...
	Extraordinary.
	In the middle of an election, you need to take a break so they could adjust the outcome, and you had this huge spike, and then he coached the victory.
	We had my own senator here in Wisconsin, Johnson, hold a wonderful hearing with a lot of experts.
	We had Mike Lindell with a lot of experts.
	We got Dinesh D'Souza, 2,000 mules.
	The evidence of fraud is simply overwhelming.
	But what fraud did Mike Lindell really show?
	He brought a lot of numbers in the stream.
	He asked, I think, some of these tech wizards, can you prove the fraud?
	And they just said it was a bunch of random numbers.
	So Mike Lindell, I think, was part of a cover-up.
	Like, they were challenging election fraud, but all they needed to do is present what Maria Zak had given them.
	Trump had signed an executive order that if there's any foreign influence in the election, you know, we can challenge it.
	He never executed that executive order, and my contention would be that he didn't do it because he was involved in it, or at least his team was.
	Because they did not want to say the term.
	The trouble with this...
	Is the enormous damage inflicted on America during the Biden administration.
	I mean, the millions of illegals coming in, many a horrific character, the vast expenditures on them.
	I mean, half a trillion estimates are conservative.
	The crime, the mayhem, the disruption of our society, the undermining of our values by all the...
	Woke agenda, DEI, and transgenderism, Susan.
	It's just horrifying what happened to this four years, the worst four years in American history, beyond any doubt.
	I mean, far and away beyond anything we'd ever experienced before.
	I mean, that was a terrible price to pay.
	And you're suggesting it was really basically a political gambit?
	It was, and unfortunately, it's all based on money.
	So let me kind of paint the picture a little broader.
	Where did these immigrants come from?
	If you look at where they were coming from, it was from these Latin American countries where they were building smart cities.
	So these smart cities were being created by Peter Thiel and his group.
	They pushed the people off the land.
	They then shipped them up to America.
	Who processed the immigrants when they came across the border?
	It was a group called the GEO Group.
	They run the prison industrial complex.
	And the GEO Group receives a lot of government contracts.
	They run the prison system.
	When you've got heavy crime, that generates more revenue for the GEO group.
	So they're making money at all ends.
	And then when you have Trump come back, oh, he's going to send them back again.
	You've got more money, billions that have to be spent in that process.
	And then I also read that a number of these immigrants coming into the country, they were given shots, vaccines.
	So then you've got the pharmaceutical company making money.
	You've got the hotels making money, housing them.
	You know, there's just money all the way around.
	And then Peter Thiel, who now has a lot of influence with the Trump administration, he was the one who was kind of sending them up to develop these smart cities, not only in America, but all over the world.
	Susan, this shocks me.
	I have no awareness of these smart cities all over the world.
	Can you expand on that?
	I am stunned.
	And how are they playing out?
	They're outdoor prisons, as far as I can tell.
	They're a very sophisticated open-air prison.
	Everyone in a smart city is not just under surveillance, but they're under mega control.
	These smart cities are loved by libertarians because they look at it.
	We don't have to obey any laws.
	We'll have our own courts.
	We'll be taxpayers subsidized so we can become kings.
	They will control the courts, the governments.
	They will own the real estate.
	You would have to rent from them.
	They have control of their data.
	They monetize that data.
	They're going to make a lot of money.
	And they work with the governments to clear people off the land.
	And then they have the governments coming back protecting them and then subsidizing them.
	But for them, this is freedom because it's beyond the reach of any government.
	So what happens is that you have an international crime syndicate that is beyond the reach of the law.
	So these cities are growing.
	I don't know what the status is now.
	There was, like, the nascent form of them in Latin America, Africa.
	There were some underwater.
	I mean, they're really everywhere.
	They want control of these cities.
	Like, they're fiefdoms.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah, it's...
	I mean, it's just stunning.
	Continue, continue.
	I think it's really disgraceful in the sense that they're putting their own personal greed.
	I mean, how many mega mansions can these people have?
	They're putting their personal greed above the interests of the people and above the interests of the government.
	It's just pure, all of it's pure greed.
	And we see these people with $200 million homes, quarter of a billion dollar homes.
	You know, where is all this money coming from?
	It's from this international crime syndicate that is...
	You know, LinkedIn with USAID, it overlaps with the drug trafficking, the human trafficking, which, you know, brings in Epstein, arms trafficking.
	And it's all kind of beyond the scope of the law, and it implicates a lot of these top people in positions of power.
	Really fascinating stuff.
	Bring us any further you can today.
	How things stand today as you see it?
	Are we going to emerge from this intact?
	Is America going down?
	Are we going to be a giant smart city?
	Well, I personally think I'm always very hopeful.
	And I think that once the American people...
	Understand the problem.
	And I actually map this out in my book, The Saudi Swindle.
	I would encourage your readers to get that if they're interested.
	I kind of map this all out.
	But I think once the American people see the big picture and they see how fraudulent it is and they reclaim their rights, I think if we unite as a people, I think we can lobby for change, you know, through pressure groups, through interest groups, through...
	You know, even through our local congresspeople, our state attorney generals and so forth, we can take our country back.
	The overwhelming sentiment in America today is that Trump is doing the right thing, that he's benefiting the people.
	Let me find, we got a poll result here.
	A bombshell poll.
	Finds a mega movement surging and the Democrats in disarray.
	Let's see what kind of numbers they're reporting.
	This is a Harvard poll.
	You know, the thing is, too, I would like to see them focus less on owning the libs and more bringing me the people together under 110, you know?
	The left's attempt to poison our children mined with critical race during government schools has earned them a 65% disapproval rating from outraged parents.
	Trump was telling his 69% of Americans reject the Democrat Party's pro-crime policies and turned our cities into war zones.
	Mark Penn, who co-directs the Harvard Cabs Harris Poll, did not miss words about the Democrat predicament.
	People have really reassessed their attitude toward Biden, Harris, and the Democrats, taking a much harsher, more negative attitude.
	The left's House of Cards is collapsing, even in their traditional strongholds.
	Urban Hispanic voters, once reliable Democrat supporters, now reject the party's radical agenda by an astounding 58% margin.
	A Tennessee business owner captured the national mood perfectly.
	We're not just tired of their policies.
	We're tired of being lectured about our values while they destroy everything that makes America work.
	President Trump and the bold government reform agenda struck a chord with Americans who are sick of bureaucratic waste and inefficiency.
	The numbers...
	Show a nation ray for conservative leadership.
	42% now believe in America's on the right track, a remarkable 14-point jump since January.
	Susan, it's going to keep going up, those numbers.
	I think Americans believe in Trump, rightly or wrongly, that we're on the right track.
	I'm basically in alignment with that, with the exception, of course, that God's in his commitment to Israel, which I think is calamitous.
	But in virtually every other regard, you know, securing the border, dodge, clean out government waste, reducing the size of government, getting energy back, energy independence back, reestablishing the XL pipeline, building the wall, and more.
	I'm on board with Trump.
	Tell me your thoughts, Susan.
	Yeah, those are all valid points, Jim.
	And I'm taking a wait-and-see approach with Trump.
	I do support a lot of what he's doing, and I think you're absolutely right in the fact that he was part of the syndicate.
	Maybe he's being used for the good.
	I think that we also have to be aware of Hegelian dialectics, because they like to kind of set up these different issues, like create the crime, and then, well, what's the solution?
	They kind of move us over to where they want us to go.
	But, you know, so far I do like, you know, a lot of what I've seen, that we still have problems.
	Like we have those fires down in South Carolina and, you know, there's some issues still with the country, some crazy things.
	And I don't know, I think with Musk, he's doing a lot of good things, kind of cleaning house.
	But is he...
	Is he doing that so we'll have a government run by AI? Or is he really trying to audit the books because we're going through bankruptcy and they've got to clean things up?
	I'd like to see where they're taking us.
	So hopefully they're not taking us to more cryptocurrencies, which I think would be a horrible Ponzi scheme that would devastate the country.
	AI is an area of my expertise.
	I published lots of articles about AI. I founded an international journal called Minds and Machines.
	Very successful.
	Edited solely for 10 years.
	I'll just say, AI isn't really the answer to all the questions.
	Just look how hard you have with an AI routine if you're just trying to get assistance with some of your computer or whatnot.
	You try to call a company.
	You're sent around a circle.
	It's ridiculous when you don't have a real person there who can handle a problem in minutes.
	You're spending endless time.
	I do not see it as the solution.
	In a point I've made in the past, it's all determined by the programming.
	And the programmer cannot anticipate the myriad odd circumstances that a human being can confront and effortlessly deal with.
	And I think AI is especially weak in what's known as inductive reasoning, where you go beyond a database.
	It's excellent with just a database and deductive reasoning, which follows from the database.
	But when you want to extend to information that isn't certain, but is probable or well supported by the evidence, there it's much more problematic.
	And, you know, I'm very troubled by this enthusiasm for AI. We had a recent story here about asking AI about, I don't know, Biden, Trump, something like that, and it gave a stock Democrat, liberal Democrat answer that bore faint resemblance to the facts.
	I mean, it's the old principle of computer science, G-I-G-O, garbage in, garbage out.
	If you don't have a reliable database that's accurate, you're going to get results that are anywhere removed from what they ought to be, depending on the egregiousness of the incompetence or the deliberate distortion of the data by the programmer, the source, and all that.
	So I think this is really a false expectation, even by those who may have the grandest impression.
	Elon Musk, among others.
	Bill Gates, whom I despise.
	Musk, by and large, I admire, though I think the electric car concept was fatally flawed from the beginning, because it requires more energy to develop the electric car than it ever saves, and it does more destruction and pollution to the planet.
	I mean, it's all a massive pile of bullshit when you come right down to it.
	But on the, you know...
	In other ways, Bill Gates is totally despicable.
	He wants to use AI as spyware.
	Microsoft from the beginning was built with flaws so he could make more money with new versions of words.
	That was all purposeful.
	It's just like General Dynamics or Boeing or Raytheon putting out a product that's substandard so they got their maintenance contracts and they double or triple.
	They're profit margin by the maintenance.
	Meanwhile, our soldiers are dying in combat because their tanks won't work.
	They had an electric tank.
	It had to be recharged every four hours, and it was like 12 hours off being charged for every four hours.
	It was absurd, just stupid, stupid stuff like this, Susan.
	It appears to have no end in our military and other areas of our government.
	I'm just stunned, staggered by the incompetence.
	Yes, I agree with you.
	I think it's a big scam, and it's a big money-making scam, but I think that they're just looking at it to make a lot of money, and also they're hoping to link it in with the social credit score with banking, and just to kind of use AI for the purposes of efficiency and maximizing their profits at the expense of everybody else.
	I mean, what problem does it solve with AI? What do you really need it for?
	I think it's overblown and hyped.
	It's replacing people who have at least semi-meaningful jobs.
	They're employed.
	They make an income with robots, and they think they're saving money, but it's at the expense of human beings.
	I don't think the trade-off is a good one, and I don't believe in the end.
	These robotized machines are very good at performing repetitive processes like automobile assembly plants.
	I think they're just a host of other issues where automation is a colossal, a big mistake.
	And I just say, next time you want to call one of these companies because you've got a problem, just see how much success you have working your way through the myriad automated, you know, it's ridiculous.
	Let me just say, by the way, We're going to take the calls, open the lines here right after the break, which is coming up.
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	Well, we have a first caller to the show, area code 303.
	Please give us your first name and state and join the conversation, 303.
	Hey, it's Sal in Colorado.
	How are you?
	Sal, how are you, my friend?
	Long time no hear.
	No doubt.
	I'm terribly sorry about your brother, James.
	I know you haven't had much time within the past few years and it's not really good health, but...
	I'm just sorry to hear about that.
	Well, much appreciated, Sal.
	We actually turned it into a glorious occasion.
	It was probably the best family event of my life with the brothers and sisters and his son.
	It was absolutely sensational.
	So, you know, you talk about turning a lemon into lemonade.
	This was a glorious occasion, Sal.
	I'm concerned about Trump and his gold card policy.
	I mean, aren't there not Americans who could do something?
	I mean, there are so many people that need opportunities to create business.
	Do we have to outsource everything?
	I really think that that's a bad idea.
	Susan, do you want to follow up?
	I agree with you on that.
	I know that a lot of countries do that as a way to incentivize foreign interests to come in and invest in the country.
	But I agree with you, and I think we have enough foreign interests buying up American corporations and then either employing H1B1 employees or others.
	And I agree with you.
	I think we need to look towards investing in the American people and giving them those opportunities.
	By the way, I stepped away from the computer for a few minutes during the break, so if anyone called in, then do call again and I'll bring you on.
	Eric at 608-957-8727.
	Susan and I are here.
	Sal, further thoughts of yours?
	I'm just really happy that you...
	Put that letter up on your channel from Sasha Letepova to RFK Jr. I think it's falling on deaf ears because I don't think Trump is going to let him do any of the things that he really would like to do to make our health better.
	And Sal, why do you think that?
	Why would Trump bring on RFK Jr. and then rein him in?
	Just for show.
	I mean, I don't know, but until or unless the point comes where he is able to, you know, stop getting, forcing these vaccines on children and giving them autism and myocarditis when they're five years old, this is a problem.
	And unless or until that time comes, I'll be glad to Eat my hat and change my mind.
	Do you feel the same about Tulsi and Kash Patel?
	I'm not sure about either one of them.
	I don't know what I think about them.
	I don't think that they're bad picks.
	To see what happens during this administration, it's going to be the catalyst to figuring out whether...
	They can do the good things that they might have the intention to do based on what Trump and the other parties in the administration, he's talking about how VXS is so great, you know.
	His own mom says he's a woman abuser, so I don't know what to say about that.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	You're asking about Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard and so forth.
	I think that a lot of these people are Trump loyalists.
	And unfortunately, he has selected candidates based upon, I think, more of his friendship with them and their willingness to work on his behalf, which might be good in that administration if you want your agenda fulfilled.
	But I don't think he's picking candidates based upon merit.
	And in terms of Robert Kennedy, I mean, if he's working on behalf of the American people, I'm all for him.
	But he does come from the Kennedy family.
	And his father, Joseph Kennedy, the patriarch, who's the U.S. ambassador to the U.K., cut a deal with the Rothschilds in exchange for allowing his sons, including JFK, to rise into positions of power.
	And Ted Kennedy was the one who rewrote our immigration laws to allow this unchecked immigration, creating the problems that we now have.
	So I think Robert Kennedy has always been a Zionist.
	So there might be some good qualities about him, but again, I'm taking a wait-and-see approach to see what he actually does with the power that he has.
	No, he is a big supporter of Israel.
	You're absolutely right about that.
	We have an additional caller.
	Let me bring him on in.
	518, please give us your name and state and join the conversation.
	This is Frank from New York, Jim.
	Frank, great to have you here, my friend.
	Go right ahead.
	Great to have you.
	Okay, brother.
	By the way, your guest, she sounds just like Syrian girl, very intelligent, and, you know, she presents herself well, and I think she's doing a great job.
	And, Jim, I wonder if you or your guest or the other caller, if anybody thinks that the Epstein files will actually ever be released.
	Well, we think he knew it's Middle Eastern country.
	Epstein, I don't think that's Arabian.
	If any of you guys think that they'll ever get released?
	I think they will.
	I think it's just too many people who know too much and have copies or sources.
	I do think it will, but it's obviously proving to be a sticky wicket.
	Pim Bunny's pretty pissed off.
	It turns out the FBI withheld a whole lot of records she's never seen about this.
	You know, I think somewhere in there we have integrity.
	I mean, and the qualitative difference from the Biden admin is simply overwhelming.
	Would you agree with that at least, Frank?
	Oh, of course.
	Of course.
	I mean, I think Trump's done a lot of good.
	I don't like his talk about Gaza at all.
	Right, right.
	Riviera, the Mediterranean, give me a break.
	How absurd is that?
	Well, his son-in-law is probably already doing, you know, Jared Kushner, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, he should, you know, get rid of that creep.
	I mean, Jared Kushner, you know, his father was, you know, involved in some stuff and him and, you know, I mean, you know, Trump, I heard people say, well, he's not doing anything.
	I've heard that behind the scenes he's still influencing Trump.
	I don't know to what degree.
	Oh, that Kushner is.
	Oh, I don't doubt he is, Frank.
	Sal, did you want to chime in on this?
	Sal, you still here or no?
	Go ahead, Frank or Susan.
	Susan, you want to respond?
	I mean, Jared Kushner.
	I'm still convinced that Phara Gnomes were involved in her falling in love with him.
	He has not impressed me.
	I think, isn't his brother investing in OpenAI?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think so.
	I know that Jerry was...
	Of course, behind that, Gaza Riviera.
	And also, I think he was behind the cryptocurrencies, and he was looking at raising the cryptos to 250,000 value, and then buying real estate with that.
	So I think that he's probably very much working behind the scenes of the Trump administration.
	Yeah.
	I don't doubt that Jared is Mossad.
	I just don't have any doubt about it at all.
	Yeah, Jim, they say it every time.
	Not every time.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you there.
	But quite often, or whenever, I don't know how often, but when Bibby would come over, he would stay at your hotel.
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	And they renamed the address, you know, 666. I mean, how ridiculous is that?
	It was something like 669, and they had to redesignate 666. That's a little too much, if you ask me.
	That's just over the top.
	Is Bibi Netanyahu getting, what, 54 or 56 standing ovations from Congress?
	Oh, of course.
	Of course.
	Frank, that was so insulting, I couldn't believe it.
	He's even speaking to a joint session of Congress.
	This man's a mass murderer.
	He's a genocidalist.
	He's a raving lunatic.
	How awful was that?
	Just humiliating, embarrassing.
	Shameful.
	He wants to keep that war going on over there, Jim.
	He does.
	He does.
	He was under a lot of heat.
	There were people out there.
	They had hundreds of thousands of people in the streets in Israel protesting.
	They wanted them out.
	They wanted them out.
	Yep.
	You know what I mean?
	Like Gerald Plenty says, you know, when everything goes wrong, they take you to war, and then the people get behind you.
	You know what I mean?
	The people support their leadership during a war.
	He has more political lives than a cat.
	Frank, he's just astounding!
	It's disgusting, Jim.
	I mean, like you said the other day, he runs America, and I'll tell you, it kind of looks like he does, Jim.
	I know, Frank!
	I was being rather literal.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Susan, your thoughts?
	I think you hit the nail on the head.
	I really couldn't add any more to what you said, but that's correct what you said.
	Frank Moore, I always love hearing from you, brother.
	You know, I guess Trump actually took his chair out and put a chair under his fat ass, okay?
	I mean, you know, I don't know if that's being subservient or giving that gesture or whatever, you know what I mean?
	But I tell you, Jim, none of the politicians in this country, I haven't heard one step up.
	And I like RFK Jr. I like him a lot.
	But even he won't criticize Israel for what's going on over there.
	Oh, Israel can defend it.
	Well, I'll tell you, Israel played a major, major role in killing his father.
	So, you know, they had a lesser role regarding JFK, but they had a major role regarding RFK. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I'll tell you, they were involved in 9-11.
	Sure.
	They had the USS Liberty.
	Of course.
	We had the LeBron affair.
	You know, but the average person out in the street, oh, and especially if they're one of those Christian evangelicals, oh, they're the Jewish people.
	They're the chosen people.
	We've got to worship them, you know?
	John Hagee, I mean, that guy, what a 3P is.
	You know, Rabbi Schneerson, who many Jews regard as a Mashiach, you know, the return of the Jewish Messiah, was sad.
	In response to those declarations, no, no, no, he can't be the Meshiach because there are still Christians alive on Earth.
	Well, I think then somebody, oh, who's that guy that they gave all of those radio stations, the Jewish guy that's on that night?
	Oh.
	Or us?
	He gave them a bunch of stations.
	I think he brought Trump to Schmeerson's burial spot, if I'm not mistaken.
	Yeah, yeah, we got photographs of him there.
	I actually did a presentation on Schneerson during my false flag conspiracy conference 2024, Frank.
	Wow, I didn't know that, Jim.
	Yeah, you can find it on my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer.
	I think it's up on their false events on my blog at James H. Fetzer.
	You can find it, I think, in various places.
	Volkswagen Conspiracy Convent 2024. Yeah, go ahead.
	Can we see a video of you while you're on the air?
	I mean, a lot of times you point out something, but I can't see it.
	I'm on Revolution Radio, which I love.
	I try to give them the play.
	Oh, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank.
	I'm making videos of virtually every show, and they're all up there on my Bitch You channel.
	Virtually every single show I do, there's a video version.
	And usually with lots of articles presented, video clips and the like, because as today, they're numerous, you know, from this visit with Zelensky and the fireworks in the White House.
	They're in virtually every show, Frank.
	You just want to go to BitChute channel Jim Fetzer and check them out.
	They're all there.
	There's got to be over a thousand videos I've done there.
	I mean, maybe more.
	Maybe several.
	I'm sure.
	There's a menagerie.
	Well, I've probably done 5,000 videos over all these years.
	So they're there.
	They're there, Frank.
	Check them out.
	You'll like it.
	You'll like it.
	I love Trump giving Zelensky the spanking the other day in the White House.
	That was great.
	Yeah, that's how we began the show, of course.
	Yeah, tell me your thoughts about it.
	Mendoved, who is, of course, the former president of Russia who may succeed Putin and is an even stronger nationalist than Putin, said the imputed pig got the spanking he deserved.
	You know, he was very happy with Trump.
	I think Putin is trying to keep the body count down over there, Jim.
	I mean, realistically, he could have went in there and wiped Ukraine out in a hot week if he wanted to.
	You know what I mean?
	Just send in the top forces and just get it over with.
	I think he gets heat from his military leadership that, you know, he's not doing it fast enough.
	He's not, you know, taking as many bodies as he should.
	You know, I give Putin a lot of credit.
	You know, I think he's, you know, one of the leaders on the world stage who you can count on.
	Basically, what he says to a great degree that I've seen over the years, what he does, what he says he's going to do, he does.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, you...
	I've probably asserted a hundred times, Latimer Blute is the only true statesman astride the world stage today, Frank.
	So we're in agreement.
	Susan.
	Oh, yeah.
	Your thoughts on Putin.
	Let me get Susan's take on Putin.
	Susan.
	I might be a contrarian here.
	I think Putin is part of a dialectic, and he's playing the good guy, but he has, I don't know if you follow Bill Browder, but he had investigated the money surrounding Putin, and he said that Putin is holding the wealth for the Russian oligarchs.
	According to Comerson, one of the Russian magazines, Putin was actually holding the money for Jacob Rothschild before he died.
	So I think that he is one of their people.
	But he's serving a role on the world stage.
	But he's definitely a very renowned statesman.
	But I'm not sure I would give him the carte blanche that you have.
	I love real freedom of speech, which we practice right here at Revolution Radio, you know.
	Yeah, hey, we could all have different opinions on different people.
	That's how we're going to learn.
	I learned a lot from Susan yesterday about these smart cities all over the world.
	I mean, that's staggering, Frank.
	I agree, Jim.
	I agree.
	She brought a lot of information to the table today.
	Yeah, that was great.
	And the average person out there, unfortunately, Jim, you know, they're not too aware of what's going on politically, they're not too aware of who's running the country, and they're not too politically aware of where we're going in the future unless we get some real leadership in there and some people that can take us in a different direction.
	You know, I think Trump's doing quite well.
	You know what I mean?
	I voted for him every time.
	I was disappointed the first time.
	I mean, he didn't build a wall.
	He didn't jail Hillary.
	I had a dozen broken promises that he had made.
	But this time around, he came out swinging.
	He's done a lot of good.
	Again, though, the Israel situation, that kind of irks me a little bit.
	Hillary, she has some super high classification.
	I don't think he could send her to jail.
	I think she was immune.
	He came in with the intention.
	I think he ran into a brick wall.
	But he's...
	Go ahead.
	As we said before, Jim, you know, after he won the 2016 election, he went to meet with Barack Obama in that one-on-one meeting.
	Right.
	You could see him before he went in.
	Before and after, night and day.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think they were running it through Obama, through Biden.
	I mean, you know, people who are aware, you, myself, your guests, you know, we know Biden, you know, year in, he was stumbling around.
	I mean, remember the time he went up that airplane, up the steps?
	Sure, sure.
	Three times?
	Yeah.
	You know, and then he falls on the ship, he falls off a bike.
	I mean, he was incoherent a lot of times, it seemed to me.
	Yeah.
	You know, and I think that Jill was running the show.
	And I truthfully think that when they moved to move Biden out, Jill came right out.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, of course.
	Kamala's a moron.
	Michelle is not.
	Of course, she's also not a woman, but there it is.
	It's just astonishing.
	Oh, you know.
	Well, you tell the average person in the street that, they're going to go, what?
	What?
	I know.
	And I often wonder, you know, they said, you know, they got a video of her in a dress with a lump in her pants or something.
	Yeah, sure.
	I don't know.
	Can those things be fabricated?
	I mean...
	I don't know.
	Look, it's real.
	Oh, come on.
	On Ellen DeGeneres, it's obvious.
	And there are plenty of others where you can see she has a package most women do not have, Frank.
	Yeah, Jim.
	I'll tell you.
	This country, I don't know where we're going.
	You know what I mean?
	Trump seems to get us going in the right direction and we're off.
	And the other side, anybody from the other side, I mean, you know, look at what they did in the four years they had.
	I mean, they just want to overrun this country, you know, with foreigners.
	And these foreigners come in, Jim, they're getting treated better than us.
	Oh, Biden.
	The audacity of them to come in, like those Venezuelan gangs, they take over apartment buildings in San Diego and Chicago and...
	I mean, it's just disgusting.
	Where are the cops?
	Where's the army?
	Let's get the National Guard up.
	Let's just go in and move these people out.
	Greg, I have a report.
	Biden wanted those Venezuelan gangs in here to help with child trafficking and drug trafficking.
	That was all deliberate.
	Susan, do you ever thought about that?
	I heard some report, and I didn't look into it myself, so I can't confirm it, but the report that I heard was that...
	Biden brought them in on behalf of Obama and they were meant to be Chinese sleeper cells that were going to be activated at some point throughout the country.
	I don't know how accurate that is.
	That was one of the reports that I read.
	You know, it's interesting that Michelle hasn't been around Barack in public.
	What do you make of that, Susan?
	I read the reports that they were getting divorced and that Obama might have been having an affair with the actress, Jennifer Aniston.
	Yeah, I saw a picture there.
	Of course, he had this thing with Sir F. Campbell, his chef, who winds up dead in three feet of water, and Brock's got bandages on his hand and a black eye.
	Why that didn't become a major scandal is beyond me.
	It all got it played down, but, I mean, there it was.
	I thought it was blatant.
	He was a cook.
	Massachusetts State Police went in there right away and covered that right up from the get-go.
	I mean, as you and I said in the past, you know, he had the bandages on his finger.
	He probably got bit, okay, during the struggle.
	May have.
	You know, and they come in, they said, you know, like you said, he drowned and went four feet of water.
	Three.
	Let's get real.
	Three.
	I can't swim.
	And he was actually a good swimmer.
	Yeah.
	It was all right.
	You don't even have to be able to survive a four feet of water, Jim.
	It's five feet tall.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they get away with it.
	They get away with it.
	Frank, give us a final thought so I can get those from Susan.
	Give us one more thought, Frank.
	Well, I just hope that eventually we do get to see the Jeffrey Epstein list, but I really doubt it, Jim.
	I think there's too many people there.
	It's going to show all the connections to Israel.
	The people are finally going to wake up and realize that these people that are our greatest ally haven't been our greatest ally over the years from 9-11 and the USS Liberty.
	You know, the lawn affair and so forth.
	So that's my last statement, Jim.
	You keep up the great work.
	Thank you, Frank.
	Love your calls.
	And, you know, Gene Hackman, now it's saying he was going to release the files and that's why he's dead.
	So thank you, Frank.
	Wonderful.
	Yeah, I heard that, Jim.
	Wonderful call, Frank.
	Thank you so much.
	Susan, give us a final thought before we hit.
	Well, thank you so much for having me on, Jim.
	I really appreciate talking to you again.
	It was a real pleasure.
	And I just, I wanted to maybe remind the American people that as difficult as times are getting, you know, are right now for many, many people, I think that if we stand together as a united American people, we can defeat this.
	We can restore our republic.
	So I just wanted to remind them not to fall for these divide and conquer, you know, the rhetoric and, you know, to come together as a people that we can and we will succeed.
	Well, I admire the independence of your thoughts.
	You go places that most other journalists are not willing to go, and you publish your results, you come on the show, you deal with the tough issues.
	I like that.
	Tell us about your latest book again as we end.
	Where can we find it?
	Sure.
	My latest book is The Saudi Swindle.
	And that documents really from the beginning of World War II all the way to the present.
	It goes through the different administrations and how they set up this big money list.
	Send me a link and I'll put it in the description for the show, everyone.
	Spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about.
	We do not know how much time we have left, but I think Trump is giving us a little more.

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