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The Raw Deal (20 December 2024) with John Carman, co-host, and Special Guest Keith Rodgers

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	I need somebody else Help!
	Not just anybody.
	Help!
	You know I need someone.
	Help!
	When I was younger, so much younger than today, I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
	Now I find the genuine, I'll open up the doors.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you please, please help me?
	This is Jim Fitzgerald, your host on The Raw Deal on Revolution Radio Studio B, this 20th day of December 2024, joined by my co-host John Carman.
	I've invited Keith Rogers to join us today, but it was a late invite.
	We'll see whether Keith has the time available.
	Meanwhile, Putin gave a very interesting speech yesterday on Ukraine, Israel, Zelensky, even pornography.
	Which, of course, he appropriately regards as a disgrace.
	Russian Brent Moot held his annual direct line event in Moscow Thursday, during which he addressed a wide range of issues in a marathon question-and-answer session from regrets about the timing of Russia's military operation in Ukraine.
	Please join us on Skype.
	No.
	That's okay.
	You go ahead.
	You can just call me, and I'll put you right in.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Keith is able to join us, I'm delighted to say, so I'll pause momentarily for his engagement from the very first story here.
	Putin I regard as the single...
	Here we go.
	As a single authentic statesman aboard the world stage.
	Keith, why did you join?
	I was beginning with the very first story today, namely that Vladimir Putin gave a talk, really it was a question and answer session on a direct line of it as he calls it Thursday, discussing a wide range of issues From regrets about the timing of Russia's military operation to Ukraine to blunt comments on global and domestic challenges, he offered numerous insights into his thinking.
	Beginning, Putin made me wish to launch a Ukraine operation earlier.
	He acknowledged it might have been better to have become involved sooner, you know.
	If it were possible to look at the situation in 2022, knowing what's happening now, what would I think that such a decision, which was made at the beginning of 2022, should have made earlier?
	It was impossible to stand till and wait for this situation to get worse.
	That's what it's all about.
	And of course, as many times explained, It's because Kiev was about to launch an all-out assault into the Donbass.
	That would have been a slaughter analogous to what we see the Israelis doing in Gaza, but it would have been happening in Ukraine.
	Keith, your thoughts about that first point, him having second thoughts.
	Well, you know, this goes clear back to the Budapest summit and also the grand chessboard by Brzezinski, you know.
	This was all written out ahead of time.
	During the Budapest summit when Mr. Putin arrived on the second day, the first thing they threw at him was that Ukraine was going to become NATO, and that was his first objection.
	And that's clear back in the 90s.
	And we've been fighting with this thing ever since like that.
	I hate to say we, but anyway.
	Well, you might as well say we because NATO and the US have been deeply involved from the beginning.
	Especially since the coup of 2014, engineered by Victoria Nuland using 5 billion American taxpayer dollars.
	Right.
	Well, even this morning with Zelensky, he told his FICO over there that he would agree to the transit of Russian gas if Slovakia didn't pay Russia for it until the end of the war, which he thinks he's going to win.
	And then it says...
	That he offered to give Slovakia 500 million from Russians' frozen assets.
	Now he's a banker.
	I hate to quote Victor, but it's them.
	It's the same thing when you listen to Blinken when he goes over there and he talks.
	Ukraine's going to join NATO. The only good thing about that is what I heard Professor Mearsheimer Who says that one good thing is that the United States, i.e.
	Trump, wants to distance himself from this and his best result might be just to get out of NATO, period, and let Europe handle it themselves.
	Yes.
	I think actually NATO is an excellent idea.
	In fact, just before our show began here, we had Judge Napolitano interviewing Another party might or might not have been Phil Giraldi, suggesting as much that Trump wanted to exit NATO in his first term,
	but he was no doubt persuaded by bad guys like Pompeo, who also defeated him from releasing all the JFK files, from doing it.
	I think he's more than supposed to do it now.
	John, do you have thoughts you'd like to add?
	Well, I'm listening.
	I don't know the guest's background or information at all, so I'm just listening in very carefully to see what's the pattern.
	But I've got a background, and every time we hear about what's going on in Congress this week is that we're facing some sort of a deficit again while Biden gave away trillions of dollars.
	They do this every year.
	Democrats are stealing money every year, starting wars every year, because that's what they do to lie, to steal the money, and everybody's oblivious to it.
	So it's like, no matter what they say in the news, you've got to cut through all the lies and the propaganda.
	I'm just listening for what the truth is.
	When the truth sticks out, you can make better decisions.
	We're still being lied to in the media.
	I don't know if that dovetails with what you're going on.
	Thanks, John.
	Here's an additional observation of Putin.
	Moscow is ready to talk to Ukraine, but Zelensky needs to be elected, meaning he's recognizing it doesn't have any legitimacy because he's exceeded his term and they haven't had a new election.
	Putin!
	We are ready for dialogue.
	But if not with the head of the regime, then with whom?
	If he is illegitimate himself, you know, if someone runs for election and gains legitimacy, we'll talk to anyone, including Zelensky, implying that he lacks the democratic legitimacy.
	It is having postponed the election, but really because he has, his term has expired.
	He also criticized Kiev's Western background for prolonging the war by supplying arms, and of course that's NATO and the United States.
	He adds about Zelensky speculating he might seek exile, hitting the future political fallout in Ukraine.
	He will be supported by the people whose interests he serves today, the president remarked.
	I mean, I think that's probably true.
	I mean, he's already got all these expensive mansions and chalets in Switzerland and Miami and more.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, he also had one in Crimea there, but Russia seized it.
	What I see here right now is they're scared right now, and they are scared.
	Putin issued a challenge.
	I don't know if you heard of the challenge there about his, how do you pronounce that, Orsk, Minsko?
	Yeah.
	Anyway, he says that, I'll tell you what, he says, you put all your best missile defense here in Kiev like that, see if you can stop my missile.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, this is going to come to a close.
	Mearsheimer says that, Jeffrey Sachs says that, Scott Ritter says that, you know, and even Larry Johnson, you know.
	The point is, though, they've been dragging this out, and as you mentioned, this is the bilking of the American taxpayers who And, you know, when Blinken said that, well, actually, the money that's sent to Ukraine, it doesn't actually go there.
	It stays here to create jobs and stuff.
	Well, I would try to think that a war that the United States started with, as you first mentioned, that illegal coup they pulled in 2014, and then, of course, the subsequent burning of that building, all those deaths that people burned alive.
	I mean, this has all been staged from the U.S., the CIA, and MI6, all this stuff like that.
	And this all could have been prevented had they gone by the Budapest Summit.
	But this is, it's nothing.
	I mean, the U.S. has broken every treaty that it's ever been in.
	Just like every single, I could bring it up on my phone here, about every single treaty that the United States has broken, even under Trump, towards the nuclear arms and stuff, you know.
	But this is because the U.S. is an empire, and to have an empire, you have to have constant expanding.
	And now they want to, for when Victor, you hear him on, you know, they want to use Georgia as a second front over there.
	I mean, they want a war.
	And the ones in charge don't care.
	Call it the Kalergi plan or something like that, you know.
	But they want a war.
	And they want property, because as you mentioned yourself there, Jim, that they can't get their new world order because Ukraine is such an integral part of that.
	I've never quite understand, Keith, why Ukraine was indispensable, but they, Klaus Schwab and others, have made it clear that the new world order cannot move forward without Ukraine.
	So I think that Putin is actually fighting a battle for all of humanity, not just for Russia in its own best interest, but for those of the entire world.
	Well, when you look at what Putin has been doing for his country over there, you know, like he came out with the anti-LGBT thing, and I don't care what people live and stuff, but this is not going to be taught in his schools, as he mentioned, like it is here, you know?
	This morning there was a hell of an attack over there in Kursk again.
	It's called Rylisk, I guess they call it.
	And six people are dead.
	And there's another attack.
	It was first reported it was attackums, but now it looks like they're HIMARS. But, you know, again, they keep poking the bear, poking the bear.
	They want a response to where...
	Uh, France or any of these other guys gonna send in their so-called peacekeeping troops, that ain't gonna work because you still have NATO on your border.
	Right.
	You know, freezing the current conflict at the, at the zones that it's in like that, you know.
	But, uh, and then of course Zelensky thinks that after the, the so-called peace deal that's, uh, if it ever is signed, like, he probably won't sign it, but, uh, That they'll barter to get their land back.
	And those have already been incorporated into the Russian Federation.
	And the reason was, as you know, it's ethnic cleansing.
	Same thing you see over in Gaza and Lebanon and stuff.
	Russia was doing a service to the Russian people, who now you see the United States is backing up a racist regime again.
	You can't speak Russian.
	I mean, it goes on and on.
	The Orthodox Church is different than the Orthodox Church in Ukraine.
	I mean, there's total racism, you know?
	And I'm sorry that I've learned this all my life.
	You know, with all the slangs that I've heard since my age, especially during Vietnam and stuff, but, you know, all the gooks and stuff like that, they always dehumanize someone like that, even with George Bush Sr., Saddam was the evil Hitler.
	Well, he was the same one whose grandfather was laundering money for the Nazis.
	And what is this tied to the Nazis?
	Why are the Jews tied to the Nazis?
	You know, when it came out there that human rights groups demand Israel stop arming neo-Nazis Ukraine.
	And that's when Mr. Putin says, I don't know if he meant it as a joke or not, but he said, and here we have the president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, Who's arming a bunch, or no, he calls them something to be arming like that.
	But anyway, holding all these Azov battalion, which of course they changed all the Wikipedia information to make it look like the Stefan Bandera and those guys are all good guys, you know.
	But he says, but he's a Jewish president.
	He says, doesn't he know his history?
	What is this configuration of all these Nazis over there in Ukraine?
	And your tax dollars, like I mentioned before, I was talking to Senator Dick Black the other day on another radio show.
	And I says, you know, as all this information comes out, even Syria and stuff, the Pentagon's warriors or terrorists are working with the CIA terrorists.
	You know, ISIS, Al Qaeda, UNRSA, HTS, all these guys, you know.
	And I says, how do you look American parents in the face that have lost loved ones on the field that you're supporting or the United States, you know, is supporting the very same terrorist, Al Qaeda and stuff, that they blame for 9-11?
	That makes it look more like an inside job.
	Yes.
	Very nice point.
	Very nice point.
	Putin also said that demographics is one of Russia's key problems with declining population.
	Demographics are a crucial issue for Russia, he said, and for much of the world.
	We need to create conditions for people who want to have children.
	I think if it weren't for the depopulation agenda, of course, this might not be a problem.
	He promised more states of work for families, particularly in rural areas.
	Acknowledging progress has been slow, and that migration is an acute issue for Russia.
	Russia's labor market is grappling with severe labor shortages, which Putin attributed to a dwindling native workforce and reliance on migrant labor.
	The migrant issue is a cutie, admitted, adding that illegal immigration must be controlled while skilled foreign workers are welcomed.
	You know, regional instability in Central Asia for the complicated migration pattern because so many are fleeing these war-torn regions.
	I think that's right.
	Foreign workers who are skilled ought to be welcome, but what we have for the most part are illiterate, ignorant, incapable of contributing to society, masses pouring over our border.
	Keith is just studying.
	I mean, this is among the most important reasons why Trump was re-elected to office.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, you know, as I stated before, the UN forced immigration agenda are so-called allies that have, was it, 30 different NGO groups that sit there and facilitate their coming in, again with Mayorkas.
	Whenever you so-called grill this guy, he pulls out his Holocaust card, you know.
	But, yeah, I mean, they want the immigration because a lot of these corporations, as you know, are all owned by the so-called global elite, and they want to pay cheap slave labor.
	And this morning, Trump had put a tweet out there about something about who's the worst, Russia, China, or Iran.
	I put none of them.
	What they need to do is curtail corporations.
	That CEO that just got shot, his wage was $24 million.
	I'll tell you what, I would work for $3 million a year if I had that position like that.
	And think of how many employees you could keep employed at $21 million or the health care insurance that you could do for the employees and stuff.
	It's corporate America that's the problem.
	Yes, of course it is.
	It's America and Israel.
	Meanwhile, Russian Strategic Forces chief details the new hypersonic weapon program assesses the prospects against the latest NATO missile defenses.
	Commander of Russian Armed Forces Strategic Missile Force, General Sergei Krakab, on December 17, elaborated on the development of new classes of hypersonic strategic missiles, detailing how they could fare against new American missile defenses.
	Speaking on the 65th anniversary of the creation of the Strategic Missile Force in the Soviet Armed Forces, he stated a wide range of new missile systems We'd have similarly high levels of effectiveness to the new Vanguard Hypersonic Glide Vehicle and the Ereshnik Intermediate Ballistic.
	They would be equipped with fundamentally two types of warheads that are virtually unstoppable.
	But the time has not yet come to talk about them.
	In other words, they got him, but he's not talking about it.
	He elaborated on new Aegis missile defense systems and Russia's borders in Romania and Poland, that they would be incapable of countering these hypersonic Russian missiles, which I believe 100%.
	Russia, from the late 1980s, restricted its surface-based missile arsenal to deploying only short and intercontinental.
	The former had ranges of only 500 kilometers or less.
	Alongside acquisition of large numbers of North Korean KN-23B ballistic missiles, which boasts 800 kilometers, the Ereshnik announced on November 23rd provides a 4,000 kilometer range.
	The main intelligent directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, Zesrush, is able to produce close to 300 Ereshnik per year, each able to carry Six conventional nuclear warheads, with of course each of those six has six itself, for a total of 36. The missile provides a valuable mean for targeting NATO across Europe and much of the Pacific, even all the way to Guam.
	It's expected an intercontinental-range missile capable of launching tactical strikes against targets in America could also be developed, meaning mirroring The American conventional global strike program intended to provide a similar capability.
	I don't see any way America or NATO can compete with the Russian missiles.
	I think it's fruitless and that we ought to adjust our politics to the realities in terms of military capability.
	Well, who's been supplying the rockets for NASA? Russia was.
	See?
	You would think that these guys would realize that the very people they want to take on in some kind of a war has got the, you know, the Orish missile.
	But, you know, these guys are 10 years or one generation ahead in missile technology.
	If it weren't for the Russian rockets, they wouldn't have half of their NASA space program like that, you know?
	And, of course, they keep trying to disenfranchise themselves.
	They've got Europe to do it now.
	I mean, I don't think people realize what the United States is doing, and I don't say United States as in we the people, you know, but what the United States is doing to the entire European continent there.
	This morning it came out that VW's profits are down 64%, Audi's down 91%, BMW is down 84%, and Mercedes is down 54%.
	And this, again, is by cutting off their gas, blowing up the pipelines and stuff like that.
	And of course, I don't know if this is part of that Germany must perish or the Morgenthau plan, but is Build Back better?
	Does that mean that you're going to bring all those German businesses to the United States and screw the German people?
	And as you mentioned there with Russia, I know that if you have a third child over there in Russia, They pay off your mortgage.
	I mean, Russia is a family-orientated country.
	And that's what Mr. Putin is protecting over there.
	When do you see U.S. politicians do anything for the people over here?
	In fact, in that new ominous bill they wanted to pass like that, they want a 40% raise.
	And this is after they sat there in all their congressional things telling you to get the jab.
	The same people who tried to kill you want a 40% raise.
	Yeah, insane.
	That was a 40% raise for Congress?
	It was one of them, the Congress or Senate.
	They should work free.
	Remember the forefathers?
	They would go to D.C., make rules and stuff, go home and live under them.
	They want their own health bill again and everything like that.
	See, they're so much better.
	These guys, they've lost their mind.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're wrestling about how to get this going, but it looks like they're making some progress.
	They're splitting with that Massey bill into multiple different smaller bills.
	I think anytime you have one of those Massey bills that's 1,500 pages, you've got to be extremely suspicious that there are Little programs, lines in the bill that are contrary to the interests of the American people that only benefit special interests and that are, you know, objectionable on their face, which is why they're buried in these massive bills to create a smokescreen so we're not aware of what the hell we're doing.
	Where Pelosi made the absurd remark, we've got to pass the bill so we can read it and find out what's in it.
	I mean, how bad is that, Keith?
	Well, that's because they're giving it to, you know, these think tanks and lawyers and stuff, they're the ones that write the bills.
	If you listen to Senator Black, Tulsi Gabbards even said it, your politicians are basically robo-signers.
	They're presented a bill and they say, oh, here's my chance to hurry up and stuff some pork in it real fast, you know?
	And it gets down to the point, so as you said with Pelosi, we'll have to pass it to see what's in it.
	None of them gets a chance.
	They only came out 72 hours they have to read that 1,500 and some pages, you know?
	I mean, this is ridiculous.
	And you wonder, I mean, this is where I would get worried, is because with the United States $36 trillion in debt, adding a trillion dollars every 100 days, and this new bill is almost a trillion dollars, Where's this money coming from?
	But then you listen to Janet Yellen talking to Senator Kennedy there that the United States is going to be $51 trillion in debt within a few short years.
	And she says even more if we don't act now.
	And it's like, what do you mean more?
	Where's this money going?
	We don't see it here in the United States, but we do see them buying off these different leaders and stuff around the world.
	Whenever they leave, they always take a plane load or two planes of boxes of cash and stuff.
	Same thing with those red crosses, you know, boxes loaded with $100 bills.
	That's probably what's paying your terrorists and stuff like that, you know.
	But again, they can afford to pay all these Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Nusra, HDS. They pay those out of our tax dollars like that and throw them back at us as terrorists that need to be fought and killed and stuff.
	And of course, when you cross the CIA, they designate you as a terrorist group anyway and kill you too, you know?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And now they're having to play switchy-changey and claim why these designated terrorists are actually freedom fighters.
	You know, I mean, this whole thing with Syria, and we're turning to that next, where Syria has suffered from the most well-funded insurgency in history.
	I got a report about it I want to share on the destruction of Syrian society right after this break.
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	Well, here's a very nice piece from the Gray Zone about the destruction of Syria.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Hey, folks.
	Donald Trump Jr. here with...
	This is...
	The world's central banks are making...
	Yeah.
	And, you know, what are some of the other pretexts that we get for why it's preferable to elevate an al-Qaeda offshoot in Syria over the current government?
	So, you know, we hear it's because Syria is a dictatorship, it's authoritarian.
	That argument immediately collapses when you look at the other authoritarians that the U.S. supports in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar.
	Plenty of torture and authoritarianism under those governments, too.
	So that's not the reason.
	Turkey is a bastion of democracy.
	I mean, the media is thriving in Turkey, and it's so liberatory to see Turkey take over a country.
	And then you also get, well, the Syrian government committed so many atrocities during the war that they lost their right to govern.
	But what doesn't get mentioned there, especially if you read this in a U.S. source, is that the war in Syria, like Syria committing violence, this was the most well-armed insurgency arguably in history.
	And that's what the Syrian government, using like You know, weapons that are not very modern, not as sophisticated as the weapons that their insurgency got.
	They were fighting against an insurgency, you know, armed by Israel, the U.S., NATO states, Turkey, Gulf monarchies.
	And U.S. officials have bragged that their weapons helped kill or wound over 100,000 Syrian soldiers.
	So this is from David Ignatius a few years ago, very close to U.S. intelligence officials.
	Speak to them regularly.
	This is what he writes.
	The CIA program pumped many hundreds of millions of dollars to many dozens of militia groups.
	One knowledgeable official estimates that the CIA-backed fighters may have killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers and their allies over the past four years.
	So this is what the Syrian army was fighting against, is, you know, an insurgency armed by the CIA and other foreign entities.
	And the CIA alone bragged about killing or wounded over 100,000 Syrian soldiers.
	So if you're fighting a war in which over 100,000 Syrian soldiers are killed or wounded, you're going to have a lot of violence.
	And it was in that process that Syria committed violence against, you know, like that resulted in all these deaths.
	I mean, they were defending their country from a foreign insurgents.
	And that concept that a government, no matter what you think of it, has the right to fight back against a foreign insurgency inside its own country.
	That's not a concept you can talk about In establishment media, and sadly not even some progressive spaces, but it's like if Russia had armed the people who carried out January 6th, which is, you know, which was not even, certainly the violence of January 6th, whatever you think of it, was not comparable to violence in Syria.
	If Russia or Syria had armed them, we'd of course be livid and they'd have no right to do that.
	Here we can openly brag about how we helped kill or wound 100,000 Syrian soldiers.
	And it also shows, by the way, that now there's all this talk about how the Syrians did this for themselves.
	You know, there was no foreign intervention.
	Well, years of arming and insurgency in which you have hundreds of thousands of people being killed and the U.S. taking credit for some of those hundreds of thousands of deaths or injuries, that plays a major role in finally weakening the states so much along with sanctions and a military occupation and other factors that finally leads to the states and the military's collapse.
	100,000 soldiers killed or wounded.
	That's 100,000 young men who are conscripted, fathers, heads of households, and then it creates a crisis of mass migration where young men who are going to be conscripted decide, I don't want to get my head blown off by an al-Nusra-sharp sniper or get captured and beheaded on camera.
	I'm going to go to Europe.
	And so Europe pays the price.
	It also It helps us better understand the casualty statistics because I keep seeing this phony statistic of Assad killed 500,000 people like he was just petting a cat and doing it for fun because they were waving protest signs and like, you know, declaring Syrian lives matter or something.
	The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is backed by the British Foreign Office, which was a one-man operation that was the main Source of casualty statistics in Syria, which came up with the 250,000 estimate, itself declared that at least 50% of those killed in Syria were killed on the loyalist side.
	Soldiers and average people killed by those armed by the foreign states seeking to destroy Syria.
	So think about that the next time you see these dupes On Twitter tweeting out, half a million people killed by one guy.
	It was a dirty war.
	This is what happens in a dirty war.
	And then the phony statistics that were amplified, that went beyond SOHR, come from a group called SNHR, the Syrian Network for Human Rights.
	Which is now going to be heavily involved in producing atrocity propaganda about Syria to justify what just took place.
	And they are housed in Doha, Qatar and are an element of the Propaganda apparatus that existed to destroy Syria.
	And they never, ever provide any data.
	There's no way you can find any data to support their claims.
	At least SHOR produced data.
	But all of this, that's the product of the most well-armed insurgency we've probably ever seen in our lifetimes.
	And it continues.
	It will continue.
	And we're going to see these various groups fight one another.
	Well, I think that's a fair prediction.
	I mean, I hope not.
	Anything's possible.
	I mean, maybe there'll be some miracle.
	Like I said, people are so tired of fighting that maybe somehow it all, maybe this amnesty that Jelani's promise really is practiced.
	Although, I mean, I've been sent videos today.
	I haven't verified them, but I've been sent videos.
	And this is the problem with social media videos.
	Sometimes you get something, it's from a different country or it's from years ago.
	But people sending me videos that I know from Syria, you know, Showing some really grisly things that are already happening to people.
	And of course, based on how things have gone so far, it wouldn't be surprising at all.
	That even if Jelani is somehow sincere about granting amnesty and having a peaceful transfer of power and not going after minorities and respecting women, as he claims, that this is what happens when you flood a country with weapons and destroy it for a decade.
	Is that things get out of control.
	And certainly the table has been set for that in Syria.
	I hope there's a miracle.
	It's not the case.
	But if I were betting, that's not what I'd be counting on.
	I'm fearful there's going to be a slaughter of minorities, especially Christians in Syria.
	Assad have been very good about, you know, protecting various minorities, just as it occurs in Iran.
	Iran is...
	Has Jewish communities, Christian communities, and so forth.
	And is very respectful thereof.
	What we have with these terrorist groups, of course, is precisely the opposite.
	Keith, your thoughts?
	I'm wondering why we're still calling terrorist groups their employees of the Pentagon and CIA. Yeah.
	Well, they're changing that key.
	They're now doing a transition, you know.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They're more equity and all that crap.
	Yeah.
	Well, right now, I've just sent this from one of my spook friends there, that Putin's stunning attack on Jews.
	And basically what he's doing is he's chastising Israel for seizing all that land, which is exactly what they claim Russia's doing over in Ukraine.
	So it's okay for Israelis to do this and seize whatever parts of Syria.
	I mean, even that Giuliani or Giuliani, I pronounce his name there, he's wearing clothes that are made in Israel.
	And I don't know whether he bought them in Turkey or what.
	The point is, it's well known now.
	That's why it seems like it's more suspicious about this so-called ceasefire.
	That was put in position like that, but this is why they've been probably plotting this for the longest time now, and they needed some heat to back off because the IDF soldiers weren't even showing up for duty and stuff.
	They didn't want to go back into that hellhole, and they never even got so far into Lebanon.
	That's all bad it was.
	I think there was 8,000 wounded or something like that.
	I forget the number on Wounded, killed in action or like that, but the amount being killed must be bad.
	And then on top of that, with Syria, remember these red lines.
	Obama had them, Trump had them, stuff like that.
	It was supposed to be gassing his own Alawite population like that.
	Well, let's go back to Iraq when foreignpolicy.com says that the CIA supplied all the gas for Saddam so he could use that against Iran and the Kurds.
	And then, of course, look at the COVID stuff.
	The United States, through its initiation of this so-called virus, has killed more people than Assad, Saddam, all these guys like that with their bioweapon.
	But it's like they can't look at a mirror to see what they're doing.
	They can only blame everyone else, and they do that, of course, to sell more arms.
	I mean...
	I keep remarking the fact that the United States is a mortician who moonlights as a serial killer just to keep the door open.
	And I hate to say that, but it's true.
	You know, they don't care, you know, to the last Ukrainian.
	They don't care how many people die.
	Just as long as their arms are being bought, a country's driven into massive debt, the IMF can swoop in there and enslave that country to high-interest loans.
	And of course, which they'll default on, and then the U.S. corporations start buying up everything, and then it lies hunky-dory, because then they've expanded their empire again.
	Yes, indeed.
	Meanwhile, Yahoo is in court for the first time in the anti-corruption trial.
	He's sought to avoid this forever.
	Middle East Eye reports.
	Israel Prime Minister is giving evidence in a Tel Aviv court Tuesday, having long sought to avoid doing so.
	Over four years after it began, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu took the witness stand on Tuesday for the first time to give testimony in his long-running corruption trial, Netanyahu's 75. He has been widely accused of using Israel in various regional wars as a way of either avoiding giving evidence in the trial or even ending it completely.
	Last month, he reportedly asked Shin Bet, Israel's internal security agency, to help him get out of testifying, arguing that it would be a security risk for him to be in a known location for an extended period.
	Israel's longest-serving leader and its defining politician, who now heads a government dependent on key members of the country's far-right settler movement, is the first sitting Israeli PM to be charged with a crime.
	Bride, brief, fraud, breach of trust?
	Netanyahu will testify three times a week, the court said, despite Israel's war on Gaza.
	A fragile ceasefire in Lebanon and its incursions into Syria, where now, of course, Bashir al-Assad has been deposed.
	How do you think this is going to play out, Keith?
	Well, my answer to that is, why doesn't he meet in that mystery site, 9-11, where the United States built Israel a nuclear bunker?
	It's, what, six-some-odd stories below the earth and everything like that.
	You know, that'd be perfect security for him.
	That costs the United States a little over $100 million to do that.
	But this is all just to keep, like all the UFO stuff like that.
	Americans are all fixed on this UFO stuff while the news is over in Gaza, Ukraine and stuff, which is a tempest building towards World War III. But they don't want anyone to stop spending.
	Hell, we're right close to Christmas.
	Don't want to mess up the holiday shoppers.
	But they're doing this to keep us constantly distracted from the real news.
	And of course, that real news is the fact that this constant pushing of the bear and what's going on over there in the Middle East, even Turkey today, Erdogan was screaming back at Israel again that Israel is taking advantage of what's going on with all their operations and seizing land, of course.
	And, of course, this is a basic Turkish invasion over there.
	Erdogan has also suggested...
	My screen keeps popping up.
	Erdogan has also suggested there that he wants to take certain areas, which even is at the northern tip of Iran as it goes up to the ocean, I mean, across that water there, you know.
	But he might have to intervene back in Syria again Which means that he might be in direct conflict with the same CIA-type terrorist group, which may have Mossad links also to him.
	So he's urging the West to basically put a leash on Netanyahu because of their actions over in Syria.
	But this is a perfect land grab for the Israelis.
	They want that from the Latani River over, you know.
	And of course, if you've heard Bibi, he's even mentioned taking parts of Egypt.
	Well, this means tens of millions of more immigrants.
	Since 9-11, 37 million war refugees have been caused by the United States with Wesley Clark's seven countries in five years.
	Again, that's why when I hear certain callers on your other show like that, I get kind of irked like that because people don't realize that wars make refugees in as much as CIA covert actions where you destroy a country's economy You use the IMF, the World Bank, as a military arm to devalue their currency.
	You sabotage all their machinery and stuff.
	And then, of course, those people have nowhere to go to support their families.
	And so, well, America, you know.
	But again, this is all in working with that UN agenda, too, you know, which is funny because the U.S. is very selective in what it will accept from the UN, like the ICJ and stuff, you know.
	It's okay if you...
	Convict some black guy down in the Congo or something like that, but don't touch our pets over there in Israel, you know?
	Here's a very important issue from the American conservative, Iran.
	America's next war of choice.
	The U.S. is at risk of being buffaloed into a bloody war of regional realignment in the wake of Syria's collapse.
	Peace is not at hand in the Middle East, and Israel's Prime Minister remained determined to expand the war.
	Syria's de facto participation into Israeli and Turkey's territories is the prelude to a wider war with Iran.
	As Times of Israel reported last week, the Israeli Air Force has continued to increase its readiness and preparation for potential strikes on Iran.
	That's top priority is the destruction of Iran before Russia wraps up its victory in Ukraine and Syria becomes a new battleground for Turks and Israelis.
	It's not simply the end of Washington's rule-based international order.
	It's the onset of chaos.
	Israeli forces and Turkish Axiris, the Islamicist terrorists who sectarian, that is, Are already staring at each other across a demarcation line that runs east, west, south of Damascus.
	Netanyahu armors no illusions about the conflict between Ankara's long-term strategic aims in the region and Jerusalem's determination to claim the Syrian spoils of war.
	In addition to Syria's financial trouble and societal discontent on the home front, President-elect Donald Trump now confronts a dangerous distraction of wars he did not start, wars that will bring his administration and his country to no strategic benefit.
	America's underwriting of Netanyahu's expanding war in the Middle East will endanger U.S. national security and guarantee that Washington, its armed forces, and the U.S. economy will be hostage to whatever strategic direction Netanyahu decides to take.
	Starting the war sooner rather than later is critic over Netanyahu war with Iran.
	Present Trump with a strategic fait accompli in case Trump decides to distance the U.S. from another bloodbath in the Middle East.
	Israel's ongoing conflict with Iran and Turkey's potential confrontation with Israel will make disengagement impossible.
	I think this is terribly important.
	Keith, your thoughts?
	Well, again, Jim, Bibi is doing all this as a distraction because of what he has domestically going on.
	Remember, clear back in January of 23, he had protests outside of his house every night, every night, like that.
	Just like, allegedly, you know, during the COVID thing, China had protests, Hong Kong had protests, yellow-vested France, you know, and suddenly an invisible virus took everyone off the street, put them in lockdown.
	So this is what we're seeing here now, but Bibi wants a chance here because he's got the The ears of Donald Trump and also of, I wouldn't say Joe Biden, I would say Sullivan and Blinken.
	And he wants his go now because if you look at all the pipelines that are proposed for the entire Middle East, this includes Iran, Iraq, Syria, where they're stealing oil and everything like that.
	What Erdogan wants over there because he's going to be the centralized hub, which is going to shove this up there.
	Gaza, which has a Leviathan oil field or the LNG field.
	This is all over commerce and stuff.
	Of course, Israel is trying to set themselves up for probably to prosper for 30 some years, just as much or in as much as Ukraine is doing the same thing.
	And then we have these think tanks over here talking about Russia's large gas station masquerading as a country.
	It needs to be divided.
	I mean, seriously, if your neighbor came over and gave you suggestions on how to run your family, how to talk to your wife, how to raise your kids, would you get a little pissed off once in a while, you know?
	But that's what they're doing here, is they're trying to tell everyone else that you have to accept our so-called liberal democracy, as if Iran wants to raise a LGBT flag at the U.S. Embassy.
	I mean, this is so stupid like that.
	Yeah.
	You know, so when they're doing this, but this is BB's time like that.
	He's got To get the power and the purse of the United States, while it still has some money, before it collapses like that, you know?
	And that's why that bill is coming up here.
	You know, they need to fund all these programs, which some of them I will agree with.
	There's one for farming and stuff like that, which I've been saying for a long time, they need to protect the food supply like that.
	Especially if Trump is going to start putting tariffs and stuff on other countries, Well, they're going to do the old tit-tat on this one, too.
	And they could block vegetables and stuff coming out into the United States, which we can't grow here en masse like they do over in the southern climates and stuff, you know?
	But I think, seriously, I wish Donald Trump would realize this, but what he calls allies are actually his enemies.
	And I think they want to collapse the thing on him and use him like a pawn, just like a There's a new appointment there.
	One of the Kennedy relatives was going to be some deputy director at the CIA or something like that.
	And the CIA said, no, they didn't want him in there.
	That's hell over there in North Dakota.
	Anyway, but they don't want that appointment.
	Well, again, why should Trump trust the CIA? Wasn't it 51 intelligence agencies that came back with all this Russian collusion, stuff like that?
	Why would he trust any of those guys?
	Yeah, sure.
	John, I know you have comments you'd like to add.
	Please join the conversation, John.
	Yeah, I was doing some notes off to the side there.
	I look at these things very carefully because I've been in government for many years.
	I was in the Secret Service and I saw the Peace talks between Anwar Sadat, Menachembeg, and Jimmy Carter.
	They even tried to get Anwar to offer part of Egypt so they could get rid of the Palestinian issue by sharing some other land and adjacent country.
	That didn't go anywhere because he later got assassinated in 81. But we're all being guided down the same path, all these proxy wars.
	Remember when Israel was getting attacked with all the rockets from alleged areas that were indirect from Iran?
	Yes.
	Hundreds, hundreds, two, three, four, five, six hundred.
	I forgot, lost count.
	Then Bibi comes back and retaliates, but makes a phone call telling the people on Iran, Ayatollah so-and-so, well, we're going to be over in your neighborhood.
	We're going to drop a few on your military targets or not, and only two people expired.
	That's it.
	Biden gave him, gave Bibi, a billion dollars to hold off until after the election.
	You see what I mean?
	It's back and forth, back and forth.
	They're paying money from the tax slaves.
	You have to readjust your thinking, tax slaves in the United States, to keep going with these wars and proxy wars and back and forth.
	And then you would expect Bibi to put some more serious F-16s over there that we've trained to go hit some of those nukes over there in the places where they're building it based on Obama, who made the billions of dollars So they can have their own nuclear program.
	I mean, that's...
	I'll just...
	I'll agree with you.
	...on that point.
	Go ahead, Keith.
	Yeah, well, it's just it.
	See, we're having to watch just like a...
	It's like MASH. You know, 30 years later, you're watching constant reruns, you know?
	Yeah, there's some humor like that, but you get kind of tired of seeing the same old thing.
	What gets me on this is because I care about people.
	I don't care...
	It's like when you watch these young IDF boys getting shot over there in these ambushes and stuff in one of these Hamas or whoever.
	It could be Hezbollah.
	But they don't just shoot him once.
	They shoot like 15 shots into his torso like that, you know?
	It becomes a vengeance type thing.
	And this is what gets me, you know.
	Most people, like you, I, and everyone, they want to enjoy their later years, their gardening, whatever hobbies they have and stuff.
	They shouldn't be pitted against each other.
	As a father, when you raise a child, I don't have sons, but I got three daughters, but all the work you put into raising a child, the school, well, the diapers, the school, the sports, and the PTA, all this stuff like that, and then you sign them off to a government that lies to you about every single war there is, that some country is a national security threat, and that means a threat to U.S. corporations.
	And that you're supposed to willingly give up your son or daughter to go fight in this war thousands of miles away like that and possibly die, you know, and after they've killed so many people, they get that PTSD, all this stuff like that, and it's like that.
	You cope with it, like that CNN article that 307,000 veterans may have died waiting for the care of the VA, which is odd because the VA can shut down or healthcare like that for veterans, but during this Roe vs.
	Wade thing that they're doing abortions at VA clinics.
	If you center around death, you're in like Flint.
	You're one of us.
	Same thing with these video games, you know, which are training grounds for the youth to be constantly hyped up, whether you're driving or fighting Russian tanks or you're scrolling across the screen trying to do something to some terrorist.
	Oh, you can adjust the blood splatter, too.
	But what you find out, though, is when these kids get out there on the battlefield and they see blood for real, things change.
	Hold that thought.
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	Are you back, Jim?
	Thank you.
	I'm not sure what happened to Jim there.
	John, you still here?
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	Okay, yeah, I'm not sure what happened to Jim.
	Maybe he got a phone call.
	Yeah, you know, this is, I just can't believe what, you know, I study the CIA stuff, so I go through all these old archives stuff, and when you see, like, down in Cuba where the CIA puts cement in the milk of the school children, They've turned their war on the children, just like in Iraq, 500,000 Iraqi children starved to death, with Israel bombing children and stuff.
	These are actions that normal people just would not do.
	Children are innocent, even with a stupid UN thing about teaching masturbation to five-year-olds.
	Five-year-olds shouldn't know anything about masturbation, shouldn't even know anything about sex.
	But they're trying to make everyone gender equal and all this crap like that, you know?
	They're throwing things down your throat or shoving it up other areas.
	But they're destroying our culture, our society.
	And that's all people want, just like when it was in Yugoslavia.
	Beautiful communities all thriving side by side since the Versailles Treaty and stuff.
	And NATO had to go in there and blow everything up there in Kosovo, Yugoslavia.
	I mean, people get tired of this stuff.
	Yes, you got that so right.
	Go ahead, John.
	Go ahead.
	I said it's satanic.
	That's what the whole diversion is about.
	If they're doing all the stuff they've been doing specifically just in the last four years and Obama administrations, it's an underlying subject.
	Satanic, world domination, doing all these things that you just listed, which is against the cultures of the human race on the planet.
	And yet that's what they're doing.
	And Puff Diddy's like right at the top of the subject list because of the underground cities that they've got so that they can go around doing their illicit stuff.
	In fact, I'll bring up the fact that there's a military detention disposal list, PDF files that I came across over a couple of years ago from some sources I had.
	And nobody in Congress or people I actually sent copies to responded or reacted to it.
	In fact, I think that's probably where they shut down and I started getting blocked or something.
	And they're taking children of puberty age, using them for sex, body parts, and adrenochromes.
	That's it.
	Nobody wants to talk about it.
	Well, it's so prevalent, and you find out it's even in Ukraine.
	It was just brought out here the other day that Ukraine is doing massive child trafficking and organ harvesting, too.
	Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	I was on Telegram, and I reported a solicitation, now that you brought that up.
	And I used to be on Telegram, and I was communicating with people all over the world, and they came up with a solicitation out of the Ukraine for exactly what I just mentioned, sex, body parts, whatever, and maybe even bestiality type subject.
	I said, that's crazy.
	So I reported it.
	What's that guy's name?
	Durov Pavel, or Pavel Durov?
	Yeah, I think he's still in France or something like that, or Spain.
	Well, no, no, he was detained in France, allegedly, and then released.
	Russian citizen out of Dubai, which is where a lot of this is based.
	So, there again, it's either an undercover operation, Telegram is part of a Russian thing.
	I've got contacts over there as well.
	I mean, I've talked to people all over, but there's a pattern.
	Go ahead.
	Well, yeah, I just noticed Telegram came out with some new censorship stuff.
	And oddly enough, it's got white nationalism in there.
	And this is, again, where you see people trying to protect their own, you know, whether it's your society, your neighborhood.
	And I used the illustration here not too long ago that you could just think of a neighborhood block, say 12 or so houses, you know, fair houses and stuff like that, but each has a fenced yard and everything like that.
	And you've got a white family, an Hispanic family, a black family, you know, go on down the road, an Italian family.
	And these guys all get together and they have their little, you know, like a barbecue together.
	And they even got a Jewish family and stuff like that.
	But, you know, I mean, the neighborhoods are that way across the world.
	And suddenly, someone thinks they want to expand and knock down their fence and take over their neighbor's property.
	Well, it's like with Iraq and stuff.
	They've got oil and everything.
	Well, it doesn't mean I need to go over and kill Iraqis to rob their oil lines and stuff to grab enough oil from my vehicle, you know.
	Just the amount of trade alone, like the United States stealing that oil in Syria to give to Israel.
	The point is, had those countries, and Jim, this is a good point to remember, had those countries been able to, remember the United States has one-third of the planet or three billion people under sanctions.
	Had those people been able to do business, to build their economies up, You know, like Qaddafi, as you mentioned before, Jim, to be able to have a thriving community, you wouldn't have the immigration and stuff.
	Remember Qaddafi said that basically Libya was the bulwark against mass immigration to Europe and stuff.
	And if you look at the actual size of Africa, you'll see what the difference is.
	You can fit the entire United States in there, Brazil, all that stuff, you know.
	This is how big Africa is, and all they care about is all those rich minerals and diamonds and gold and stuff.
	It's corporate heaven, you know.
	But had people been able to put that money into their own societies without being sanctioned and able to do business, you wouldn't have the mass immigration that you do, and then, of course, the wars that go along with it.
	And oddly, the wars, they usually draft the 18 to 35-year-olds who are usually the horny guy.
	You put them on a battlefield killing 18 to 35-year-olds and there's your population agenda.
	I mean, why is anyone fighting these wars?
	Because if they say they're for our freedom and democracy, you have to step back and look at what freedom is in America right now.
	This isn't freedom.
	It's a police state disguised as a democracy.
	Hey, I want to interject something real quick.
	I've studied this stuff with Gaddafi, and I've talked to people that actually worked with Gaddafi on some sort of a special pipeline project thing where they actually put some sort of a special amoeba or eating type of an acid or whatever you want to call it.
	But Gaddafi was a really good leader.
	He gave money to his people.
	They were all rich, most of them that I'm aware of.
	Free school, free college, free house.
	If you got a wife and a kid and got pregnant and all that, free medical.
	And if you had a medical issue that they had to fly you to New York or some damn place, then they would pay for it.
	And that's where they ended up taking him out.
	That was under the Obama administration, and they're doing speeches, and Hillary...
	about getting this guy because they claimed he was a terrorist.
	That's a lie.
	He was not a terrorist in my opinion.
	I'm aware of a meeting between Lindsey Graham and William C. Chasey who wrote the book about Pan Am 103 who actually went to meet with Qaddafi in the desert and they made a deal with him because Qaddafi was worried that they were blaming the terrorism on the Pan Am 103 flight on him or people associated.
	And paid money to these guys.
	Lindsey Graham, who's still in office, and William C. Chasey is dead now.
	He actually lived out of San Diego area, and I actually ran into him, didn't know it was the same guy until later.
	But they didn't care, so what happens is they went after Lindsey, not Lindsey, but went after William C. Chasey, claiming he was acting as a foreign agent.
	So if you receive money from a foreign country, For lobbyists and stuff, which the lobbyists do all the time, they'll list you as a foreign agent because you forgot to register or something, and then they shut down all your accounts.
	So that's the control part, just to throw it in there.
	Yeah, it was no different with the Canadian truckers and stuff.
	We're getting into a world now where the group think is becoming more Orwellian to where it's like the movie Minority Report, pre-thought crimes and stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	This democracy they talk about, you've probably seen that video where they throw like 50-some news channels talking about this is a threat to our democracy.
	Well, in a democracy, I just realized there was a thing here not long ago, a couple days ago, that was posted, which said that if we lived in a real democracy, then if they want to take you to war, the people should have a vote on it.
	But see, that's not what's going on.
	It's all these oligarchs, the kickbacks from these arms companies, The stock market, insider trading, all this stuff.
	I mean, your politicians are totally corrupt, and they want you to keep voting for them.
	It's like, what have they done for the country?
	Oh yeah, they give out a free health clinic, free needles for drug users and stuff.
	The point is, we wouldn't have this fentanyl and all this stuff.
	How much does the DHS get a year?
	DEA get a year.
	Where's all this money going for all that enforcement when it should be at the borders and stuff?
	I worked at the border at U.S. Customs 15 years and you just brought up a good point about DEA. They get a budget like a local San Diego budget might be upwards of 10 million or more and at the end of the fiscal year before October 1st they have to spend their money.
	If they haven't spent it, they put it on special operations.
	But the DEA is overridden by U.S. Customs.
	We're the lead agency at the border, but when it comes in the United States, then it's DEA. Problem is, the military is involved in smuggling.
	I know CIA pilots and stuff, you know, all the way back.
	But then it's the deep state that's doing the smuggling, CIA, and they're going around all that, and they're still using U.S. Customs to circumvent and smuggle on sea containers, just to throw that in there.
	Have you heard of the Century Program?
	Excuse me?
	The Century Program, S-E-N-T-R-I? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The Century, quick pass, fast...
	Yeah, yeah, trusted travelers.
	Yeah, if you look at the Fox News article, the DEA cuts deals with the Sonoma Drug Cartel in that the United States would allow thousands of pounds of their drugs in here, and in return the DEA would take out their rivals.
	So if you Google Century members arrested, you'll see there's like 200-some-odd thousand results.
	Well, this is the rivals being taken out.
	Remember on that Century program, these guys can drive up to these special speed pass lanes like in San Diego.
	They've got either a license plate decal or a window sticker like that.
	And they're just way through.
	There's no customs checked.
	And this applies too in airports.
	It's just like having a diplomatic pouch.
	They have electronics attached to it.
	It's not just a sticker.
	They've had like an electronic device attached to it.
	I'm going back 15, almost 20 years when it first came out.
	But the inspector or agent still has the authority to take them inside anyway.
	And I've done that myself.
	So they do smuggling.
	And I'm familiar with Joppa Guzman and Ariano Felix and all those guys too.
	Yeah, they find more and more places to put it.
	You know, in the tires, all this stuff like that.
	But you know, like I say, a lot of this is because of the bribery and stuff.
	Money is the biggest problem, especially when you can create it out of thin air.
	When I was young, before I turned 20s, right as Reagan was just getting an office, the national debt was 850 billion.
	Now you have to look at 36 trillion, gaining a trillion every 100 days.
	You got to wonder, Where is all this money going?
	Because if you reflected upon our communities, there was a video that was just passed around there of Kamala Harris' hometown in Oakland.
	It looks like a hurricane went through it, but it's just tents and people living on the streets.
	And this is a woman as a president-elect was supposed to sit there and think that she's supposed to be representing the people of Oakland, California, let alone America?
	No different than Gavin Newsom.
	I've called her office and a staff person or intern, when you ask them a question, they automatically said, oh, we don't do investigations.
	And I said, then let me speak to the adult in the office because she didn't know what the F she was talking about.
	If you go before Congress or a Senate, you're on a committee and you do ask questions all day long.
	Otherwise, I could see the guy from the CIA who doesn't know anything about the OIG either.
	They've actually said that.
	And have somebody like Kamala, if they're asking a question, and just say, I don't have to answer that question.
	You don't do investigations.
	See?
	She's crooked as hell.
	Her parents weren't even US citizens at the time of her birth, so she's not a natural-born citizen, just for the benefit of the public, so they know that.
	She's not even allowed to be where she's at, but it's all under the third term of Obama, Joe.
	Right.
	Yeah, I... I just can't believe that people can sit back and watch what's going on, especially to this country.
	You look at those videos on YouTube, if you remember this, videos type things in the 50s, 60s, 70s, about how beautiful America was.
	It was a sprawling industry and stuff.
	And remember, it was U.S. corporations that shut that down.
	They shut down the 40-hour work week.
	They shut down the paid health care, overtime, sick leave, pregnancy leave, paid two weeks.
	Two-week vacations.
	And then that's when Ross Perot started talking about the giant sucking sound of our jobs going elsewhere.
	Lou Dobbs with the NAFTA stuff, you know.
	This has all come to fruition now.
	And it was all done by U.S. corporations who in turn will move overseas and stuff to get better tax breaks or pay no taxes at all.
	And then they'll just move their entire corporation over there and then hire people from, you know, I mean, this is just ridiculous, but the corruption starts where the king of the U.S. dollar resides, and that's America.
	And people don't like to hear that, but if you can't see it when your president makes $400,000 a year, but you've got media hosts that are making $20 million a year on contract to sit there and lie to the American people, whether it's about the Iraq war, getting jabs, all this stuff, you know, They don't have your best interest at heart.
	A person with a conscience would sit there and say, no, I can't do that even if it costs me my job.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I talked to somebody recently from one of these tabloid magazines recently.
	And they were offering like $150 to do little quotes or something.
	I said, no, I'm not working.
	I don't have income.
	Or Social Security, because I get screwed over by the government.
	And they wiped out 15 years of contributions illegally.
	These people don't get it.
	And Obama put something into an executive order years ago that I'm surprised Trump didn't wipe out because he allowed the news media to put out propaganda and stories that's controlled by Langley.
	It's exactly that.
	Yeah, well, Pastor Hagee in Ukraine was asking for $2,600 to bring Ukrainians, Jewish Ukrainians, to the United States.
	And now you find out that Ukrainians are able to get Social Security.
	This is at the same time they're telling Americans that whatever you work for for 40, 50, 60 years isn't going to be there because it's running dry, and yet they're giving Social Security to these refugees.
	They're depleting the U.S. with their immigrants.
	It would have been one thing if they would have built up the infrastructure so these guys instantly had jobs.
	But they're all laying around under bridges and stuff.
	Stealing.
	We got people in my own building where I'm at.
	At least for another month, I guess.
	Hopefully.
	Haitians.
	I got nothing against Haitians.
	I speak French.
	I speak Spanish.
	They go to Mexico and learn Spanish for one, two, even one was three years there.
	So I can get my water delivered or something because I'm disabled.
	But the point was that they're reluctant to speak to foreigners in the United States.
	We're in our own country and they're acting weird.
	They get paid upwards of $5,000 a month, I've heard.
	They do get social security cards and numbers.
	So they're giving the promise, you vote Democrat and we'll take care of you.
	But they also have a bunch of them that are military-age type people, just no different than Hispanics or other cultures from other people at the border bringing a child across.
	And they can't account for like 500,000 children right now.
	And those are of military age as well.
	So they are doing a Trojan horse to bring this into the country.
	The Democrats, Biden, Harris, all of them in the current administration.
	Well, at the same time, trying to disarm you.
	There was a video on Telegram there of Germany.
	They've got this mass immigrant camp.
	It looks like a FEMA type thing.
	I bet you it probably holds 15,000 at least.
	But it makes you wonder.
	There's been audio that has came out of England where these guys are talking about how they have gun lockers and stuff inside these camps.
	I mean, it makes you wonder if they're going to start arming these guys.
	There's that Michael Yon talks about training areas down in Panama and stuff.
	It makes you wonder if this is going to be part of Of the so-called, matter of fact, there was a quote here that I'd sent to one of my spook friends here earlier.
	We've got training camps in the United States, and I talked to people that were like Ted Gunderson years ago.
	Sorry, that's a long-distance call from Paris that I just turned down real quick.
	Okay.
	I'll have to get back to Nick there.
	He's in Paris.
	Yeah.
	They were even asking that, and Ted Gunderson, former SAC agent of the FBI, was a friend of mine, and he would ask me, because I think Wesley Snipes was actually training people in Georgia, and then when he and then, of course, Obama turned around and started getting special training camps throughout the United States, because they are training Muslim terrorists in our country, then these people shut certain people down.
	Wesley Snipes was just doing a normal thing.
	And they go after him with the tax evasion trick.
	This quote is from, I can't pronounce his name, it's Tutov or something like that.
	He says, the Messiah will come only when Edom, Europe, Christianity has totally fallen.
	So I ask you, it's good news that Muslims are invading Europe.
	It's excellent news.
	It means the coming of the Messiah is excellent news.
	That's Operation Blue Beam, possibly, but that's what I was alluding to, was that they're getting people used to seeing drones out there, but some of them aren't our drones.
	They're scanning over military targets or Chinese targets in the United States, because like Costco, it's owned by China, and yet they have their own private security.
	They're bringing seat containers in that are not being properly checked by U.S. Customs, my former agency.
	And even the CIA can come in, ship something in, not diplomatic art or not evergreen, but it could be the same or either one, where they allow them to come in.
	Go in and retrieve whatever they were smuggling, and then have the inspector or agent remove it from the computer, which is illegal.
	See, I've reported stuff like this, and they don't do anything.
	Well, October 23rd of 2024, the New York Post came out with a story here about the World Bank bureaucrats lost track of at least $24 billion in funds for allegedly fighting climate change, and that amount could be twice or maybe even ten times more.
	What we're seeing is The people are getting built.
	They're getting more and more taxes thrown on them.
	We're supposed to fund all these wars.
	In Europe, you probably heard that in Germany, they're talking about giving up your pensions and stuff like that because the war is more important.
	That's a war machine.
	Yeah.
	Same thing.
	That's all they do.
	So as the Democrats come in, they start a war.
	When Trump was in office, he actually stopped supplying And I thought, wait a minute, we always get the beautiful women in the Kurdish outfits and they're out there in the mountains with their sniper rifles and...
	You know, we want to support, you know, the female Kurd fighters out there and stuff.
	And then he did away with that, which is just a kind of a neutral example.
	But these guys are doing no different, like when they used to do the least turned bird or the desert tortoise at the border or some desert plant so they couldn't build the wall.
	At the border.
	They never will finish the wall.
	As long as we're at war and the Democrats are involved and stuff like that, they'll either tear it down, build it back better joke, tear it down again, and then we have to fix it.
	And they're selling the remnants of the Trump fence all over again.
	They're always going to keep it open.
	Well, yeah, I know they're going to keep it open.
	That's why if you look at that UN biosecurity program, If you listen to the World Economic Forum, they refer to the countries as states.
	And this is where they were supposed to join the North American Union to the European Union.
	This is all how they're doing that.
	Of course, they used communism before.
	You know, like Vietnam has to be wiped out because of commies.
	Well, Vietnam is still communist today, and it's, what, the fourth largest trader of the United States?
	And, of course, we have China, too, you know.
	But the enemy is at the gate, and it's here.
	It's all these guys that are being bought off That's why I said in this new bill there, they finally talked about something for the farmers and I guess some relief aid for the hurricane fighters and stuff.
	But when Americans hear that they're giving a billion dollars to Africa and stuff over that of Americans that are still having to buy or rent these crappers for $135 a month No power, nothing like that.
	I mean, this government shows so much disdain it has for its own people.
	I've gotten a thing here from 2019, and I usually don't pay attention to these, but it's one of these anonymous posts.
	When it was September of 2019, it said 9 to 10 million Americans will be killed by 2020. 2021 in some kind of a major event.
	Don't ask me how I know this.
	The second line was, no, I'm not an operative.
	The 5th of September came out with, do not accept any vaccines that will be released for a deadly virus in the winter of 2020. And it goes on here.
	It will originate from a pharmaceutical company working with military ops in the West Coast state.
	I think this is where that breakout was first in Washington state.
	It will be accurately planted in major cities and will cause flu-like symptoms.
	You know, this goes on.
	And then we had in November...
	Hang on, Keith.
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	Well, I guess Jim's off again, but...
	Go right ahead, you guys.
	I want to mention something here.
	With the general over there that was in charge of the nuclear biochemicals over there in Russia, if you recall Executive Order 12333, that's where the United States had outlawed supporting any type of assassinations, and this includes to any state or whatever sponsors that they might have under their wing.
	And...
	With Soleimani, it was one thing.
	But when you start going around chopping the heads of state of other countries and stuff, you're going to have to look for some blowback.
	And maybe this is part of their plan, because we know they don't want Trump in there, that maybe they will try to do something against Trump again.
	And I remember the last time it was, oh, they're Iranians, you know.
	But maybe they're trying to set something up here now to where any demise that might come upon President Trump there would be blamed on a foreign actor.
	But, you know, you have to realize Ukraine, the SBU there, has a hit list of Americans and stuff on there.
	So the very tax dollars America is sending over there by the billions is being used to off, whether it's journalists or other Americans and stuff, as well as others, That bombing this morning there, those missiles there, matter of fact, I was going to mention, again, they're not hitting military targets all the time.
	No, these were all civilian centers that they're hitting.
	Ukraine operates as a terrorist state, just like Israel.
	Yes.
	Keep going, keep going.
	All right, well, so, you know, what I'm getting at is the fact is that You're opening up a whole new can of worms when you start eliminating, as they call it, murders is a better word there.
	But when you start eliminating heads of state, just like they talk about they want to get rid of Putin and stuff.
	Well, again, here Putin, and he had all those official observers, there's over a thousand observers that went to monitor the Russian elections there, and not one of them found any problem with it.
	One guy did comment that they stopped the thing twice.
	And he thought there was something shifty about it.
	But then he says, no, it's just because there was a camera that was recording the counts or surveys of whatever ballots and stuff.
	And the guy had changed his position twice, which was blocking the view of the camera because they wanted to make sure everything was there, you know.
	And he was running for an office down in Australia.
	And they instantly called him a Putin sympathizer, all this stuff like that, you know.
	I just can't believe the amount of hatred that they are pushing towards other people in the world.
	And again, like I mentioned earlier, the fact is all that list of countries the United States has attacked.
	I mean, it takes supplied racism to get people mad, like this so-called China, China.
	Well, we all know now that it was an NIH virus that was created.
	If you watch that Rand Paul talking to Blinken there, every single document after four years was finally submitted to Rand Paul.
	It was fully redacted.
	Hundreds and hundreds of pages, all fully redacted.
	It was made in America.
	And now with other people coming out there, you know, they've highlighted this.
	Even Jeffrey Sachs, his first speech there to Lancet says, well, this was a U.S. bioweapon.
	And now he's come out and he says when this has been unleashed on the world, he says it points back in America.
	Mr. Putin has made a comment that he knows that COVID was made in America.
	But I think most of it was done on paper.
	The rest was in the vaccine.
	I got a caller here from 518 Area Code.
	Caller, join the conversation.
	Hey, Jim.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Jim, I'd like to ask John.
	Okay.
	In case of what they think about the Social Security Fund.
	You know, I heard recently they came out and they said that I guess the proposal, you know, increasing the age where people can start to collect it, you know?
	And Jim, you know, every year with inflation, the people on fixed incomes, they get less buying power, okay?
	And it really galls me, you know what I mean?
	I know that they've taken at least $2.7 trillion out of the, you know, the Social Security Fund.
	And to my knowledge, I don't think they've paid anything back.
	Meanwhile, we're sending billions here and billions there and 10 billions.
	And, you know, we're paying for pensions over in Ukraine.
	And we got people in this country who are going to be facing hard times with inflation, with, you know, the way this whole country is going.
	They bring the immigrants across the border.
	They're giving them cash and, you know, they're giving them housing and food stamps and whatever.
	I mean, I don't see how anybody could vote for any Democrat.
	I mean, it seems like to me it's a Democrat party.
	That's giving everything to everybody except the citizens here.
	You know, people here have worked 40 years or 50 years of their life, and, you know, they're going to be told, well, we might have to erase this or do that or whatever.
	But meanwhile, yeah, well, yeah, no problem.
	We're going to send, you know, another $50 billion over to Ukraine to keep that slaughter going on.
	You know, I don't know if any money's ever been paid back into this Social Security Fund.
	Do either of your guests, or do you know if that's ever taken place?
	No, you haven't.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All I can say is that what I mentioned there about the Ukraine, bringing them Ukrainians here and their collective Social Security.
	Remember, it was Bill Clinton and Bush Jr. that had robbed Social Security to help fund their war.
	One thing that irks me most is I just read this on the shabad.org site.
	Everyone knows the banks are Jewish like that.
	There's nothing about it.
	There's no anti-Semitism there.
	However, if the United States is giving loans to Israel, Under that article there, it talks about how Jews don't have to pay interest.
	So if a Jew is borrowing from a Jew, they don't need to pay interest.
	So if all these loans are going to a Jewish-only state and Americans are getting footed a bill like that, well, we should have to pay the interest on that because it's Jew-to-Jew lending.
	I don't see why we don't call a jubilee and just tell all of these banks, you know, that with all this money, we all go screw yourselves.
	We'll give each person that works in your bank a million bucks and that's it, okay?
	And that would get us off the hook, you know what I mean, for what are we in the hole, $37 trillion now?
	I mean, it's disgusting.
	You know, and he took almost $3 trillion out of the Social Security Fund.
	You know, instead of sending this money over to foreign countries, why don't they start, you know, refurbishing that?
	Let's build that up.
	I mean, To me, I don't know.
	The whole world seems crazy, and especially our government, the way it's treating our citizens compared to foreigners.
	I mean, it's just ludicrous in my opinion.
	Your points are impeccable, Frank.
	You're absolutely spot on.
	I think if Brian has joined us, please join the conversation.
	I just have a question, Jim, from my sister, okay?
	I guess there was some shooting there in Wisconsin, some 15-year-old girl or something.
	What do you know about it?
	Because she said she thought that was a tranny, and that's why we don't hear anything more about it.
	Because they were talking about she went skeet shooting and things like that.
	She said, I don't know many 15-year-old girls who go skeet shooting.
	And she saw what the girl looked like, and she said she looked really...
	It's pretty masculine, so I just don't know anything about it, so I'm just curious what you're saying about it.
	Well, she may be right.
	It does appear to be a legitimate shooting.
	I have a friend whose granddaughter knew the 14-year-old that she killed, as well as a teacher, and there is a question here that she had some issues of sexual identity, so I think what you're hearing about it is right, from the best I can put together.
	That's what they're putting out, like the Audrey Hale case.
	That's a Audrey Hale profile, kind of.
	Well, that was totally fraudulent.
	They use a teenage boy in there, and they try to blame it on a woman.
	Brian Davidson did brilliant work on this, where the kids were wearing one kind of sneakers coming in and another, sneakers when they're dead and all this, but...
	Ralph St. Kay also was very good on identifying that this was a mix.
	They were using one 25-year-old about woman, but also a 17-year-old boy as their subjects for composing the fraud.
	And it led to them talking about, you know, tranny stuff.
	I mean, what a farce.
	Well, actually, there was a posting there on the Telegram that showed that, Jim.
	I skipped over it because I don't see any difference in a so-called school shooting here, when the government's trying to disarm you in the first place, to the same government supplying 2,000-pound bombs that are being dropped on schools, hospitals.
	I mean, this has got to be one of the most insane ideas.
	If parents or loved ones can sue a gun manufacturer, then why can't foreign countries sue the United States for bringing the guns into their country?
	Yeah, good.
	Love it.
	But Brian, I think she also was a correspondent with a 20-year-old guy out in California, was also going to do the same thing in his, I think, an office context, but apparently did not.
	So anyway, the story is coming out, but I think she's on the right track.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	She seems to have a sense of what happened here.
	That's very good.
	Frank, Frank, back to you.
	Yeah, I'll tell you, Jim, you know, it's crazy, these shootings, you know what I mean?
	And like you say, you know, most of them are phony, you know what I mean?
	But the people don't know that, you know what I mean?
	When the truth comes out, just later on down the road.
	And, you know, I really lost a lot of confidence in Alex Jones, Jim, when he just caved in up in Connecticut and down in Texas.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, you wanted to go over, if I recall, I think you wanted to intervene there and bring some facts to the case.
	And he kind of just snubbed you or turned away from it.
	I mean...
	You know, I used to like Alex a lot.
	I mean, I still get a lot of information from him, but I don't trust him the way I used to.
	I really don't.
	And because of the way he handled your case, you know what I mean, or your offer, I should say, has kind of turned me off somewhat.
	If anyone wants, as he might think, go to jameshfetzer.org and go to the specific blog, and you may be able to directly go to it, Jim Fetzer, fake news, colon, the truth versus Alex Jones, fake news, colon, the truth versus Alex Jones, and you can actually download the book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
	In the San Diego Truth Memorandum that Robert David Steele edited, where I provided a lot of contributors for then President Donald Trump.
	You can download both books.
	Three sentences removed from the first, one sentence from the second.
	Those were the sentences over which I was sued.
	But you can download the book for yourself for free.
	I go into fake news, the truth versus Alex Jones.
	I'm glad you raised those questions, Frank.
	Good stuff.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Alex has really lost it.
	He lost it in Y2K, if you remember the Bill Cooper show about him.
	He was talking about the Russians were attacking, they're going after our nuclear plants, all this stuff like that.
	It was total hype, yo.
	Yeah.
	Brian, do you want to come back with something?
	And then I'll go over to Frank.
	Brian?
	Well, I've got...
	Some information, but it would probably take too long to talk about concerning Syria.
	Yeah, we were talking a lot about Syria.
	Tell us what you got.
	Well, you know, I talked yesterday about that thing I got on the internet 10 years ago about, you know, the...
	The Jews and Johnson and the Liberty and it was erased off the internet.
	I couldn't find it anymore.
	Well, one of the stories that I got years ago and it was on the internet and it was erased and then it popped up again and it was erased and now it's popped up again and this time they haven't erased it yet and it concerns the City of Manij in Syria, Raqqa, Aleppo, Homs, and Palmyra.
	And if you get on a map and you take and draw lines between those cities, you get a pentagram.
	And they're on a ley line in Syria.
	And if they do child sacrifice in those cities, the energy goes into like a evil energy reservoir and they use it for things they're doing and it's something they need because they're getting out of energy.
	So anyway.
	Much appreciated, Brian.
	Frank, Frank, your thoughts.
	Well, I don't know about that topic that Brian brought up.
	Yeah.
	Anything, anything, Frank.
	Oh, are you talking to me, Jim?
	Yeah.
	Okay, all right.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, Jim, let's go back to Sandy Hook.
	I mean, you know, I know you used to write for Veterans Today, I believe.
	You know, they had a great article on there one time.
	I forget the guy's name who wrote it, but he showed you some tape.
	You know, they had some local film from the local TV station, and they showed the cops.
	They caught some guy and looked like not military guard, but something along those lines, you know, up in the hills, and they had him prone down, and there was so much, you know, stuff going on there.
	And then that kind of just disappeared.
	And then all of a sudden, this kid, you know, that story changed.
	He shot his way in.
	They let him in.
	You know, and how do you kill 26 people?
	I mean, you know, to kill 26 people, you've got to be a pretty good shot.
	I mean, you've probably got to hit somebody more than once to actually kill them.
	You know what I mean?
	If they were all clumped together in one place, and that would be crazy.
	I mean, to me, these lockdowns, I would say open up the windows and let the kids run like hell and see what they can do.
	You know, I mean, to me, it's crazy.
	I know.
	I know the people who are involved in this, and they all agree they needed a better script.
	Yeah, I mean, to me...
	Go ahead, I'm sorry.
	Was that that guy's name, Kip, the kid that did that?
	Kip something?
	No, I don't think so.
	Well, anyway, there's more on this stuff.
	Remember, Mike Rivero came out with that SSRI Stories.
	When you start putting these hormone blockers and stuff on these kids, screwing up their mental faculties and stuff, I could see that happening.
	It's the same thing with red flag laws with veterans.
	A veteran can't go hunting because he smokes marijuana, so he has to use a bow.
	But yet police officers doing high-stress jobs are out there with SSRIs, these mood elevators, to bring them down just so they can cope with the civilization, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	What are you directing that toward, Keith?
	I mean, not Sandy Hook.
	I mean, that was all crisis actors that fabricated families and phony deaths.
	I mean, the whole thing was fake.
	Yeah, well, what I'm directing from, Jim, is we all grew up with Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood, all these shows like Death Wish.
	We never had no school shootings.
	Yeah.
	What has changed?
	You know, what has changed?
	Well...
	That was Obama wanting to manufacture ways to manipulate the public into giving up the Second Amendment right to keep in merry arms.
	A lot of this came from Barack Obama, I'm just telling you.
	And of course, he was a creature of CIA. I mean...
	Even Columbine was fake.
	They had a couple of mannequins at Columbine.
	It's ridiculous.
	Sandy Hook, Orlando, Parkland, Las Vegas, those were all completely staged.
	I can go into it in great detail.
	I have books on most of them where I bring together groups of experts to sort out what really happened.
	And when I don't have books on them, I have videos that just take them apart in minute detail.
	And that would include Uvalde, Nashville, the Colorado Topps shooting and all that.
	I mean, many of them were based on earlier.
	Uvalde was a variation on Sandy Hook.
	Topps was a variation on the Christchurch in New Zealand, which was totally amateurish.
	So amateurish.
	You face a fine at $10,000 if you even have a copy of the video that was supposed to be the authentic shooting video.
	It's cartoonish.
	It's so amateurish.
	Oh, the disappearing cartridges.
	It goes on and on.
	Yeah, go ahead, Keith.
	Yeah, the disappearing cartridges.
	Yeah, the one in Arizona.
	Yeah, it was the day after that alleged shooting down there in that mosque that they took the guns from the Australians.
	Yeah, that's right.
	See, that's what they do.
	There was a Dunblane event in Scotland that they, you know, they had a shooting at a school that may or may not be authentic.
	Mary Maxwell, let me mention, has books on several of these.
	She's wonderful.
	And you can download her books for free.
	Wonderful stuff.
	She's got one on Sandy Hook called Unreality, you know, about how we were played.
	But she's got a whole lot of other very, very high quality books.
	She's extremely good in her literary, her writing style, extremely accessible.
	Yeah, I've got a friend, Mike, whose boy was in one of those shootings.
	And the girl...
	Or the guy that did it was doing that transition stuff.
	But he has suffered.
	The boy has suffered a lot.
	He's 18 now, but I forget how long ago it was.
	But it goes to show you.
	They do it across the country there because how even McGregor would say, most Americans don't know what's going on outside the country.
	But they have to move these events around, whether it's Las Vegas, what like that, to drive the point home, you know.
	Yeah, I'm just going to a page of books by Mary Maxwell.
	She's got a whole lot of them, and they are very, very good.
	I encourage everyone, check her out.
	Frank, you got further thoughts you'd like to throw into the hopper?
	Well, I'd just like to say that.
	I mean, I think it's disgusting the way our veterans are getting treated, the people in this country overall.
	I mean, you know, when are people going to wake up?
	I mean, you know, It's, you know, the money's going to foreigners, to people coming in.
	Supposedly, they got gangs taking over apartment buildings in San Antonio and Chicago, and they're collecting the rent.
	Where the hell are the cops?
	What about these dwellers coming in?
	And, oh, gee, they took over your house, you went on vacation, and the cops aren't going to do anything?
	You know, the cops should be, you know, the first line of defense here against crimes.
	And, you know, I mean, to me, it seems like they're taking a powder here and there in some of these cases.
	Are they going to get ready and storm some of these apartment buildings in these big cities where these gangs are located?
	Are they going to bring in the military?
	Something's got to be done.
	And Jim, I thought that the military would be involved in moving these immigrants out if indeed Trump gets to that point.
	You know what I mean?
	But I was looking when Eisenhower did it, it was just basically the Border Patrol.
	John probably knows about that more so than me or most of us anyway.
	Well, we're supposed to be depending on Thomas Holman.
	I've been in touch with his office.
	No response.
	They're going to be doing a lot of deportations.
	Even when I was a cop in San Diego, I chased a guy from Ireland and put a TOT slash BP, which is turnover to Border Patrol, when he finishes his sentence on his previous crime that I arrested him on.
	These people don't get it.
	There's over 500,000 people missing.
	It's always 11 million every year.
	Now it's up to 20 million unaccounted for illegal aliens.
	They never showed up for their hearings.
	So therefore, if they arm the people at the border, which they should do, military, then they're going to say, oh, it's a violation of the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty of 1848. So what?
	We've got a cartel.
	We're not getting a cooperation from...
	What's her name?
	The new female president.
	First female president of Mexico, by the way.
	Scheinbaum.
	Oh, the kosher one.
	Jewish.
	Yeah.
	John, John, given your experience, what are the prospects for Trump succeeding in securing the border and the deportation agenda?
	Well, that'll get done if he makes it safely through the inauguration process.
	I'm already aware of all these threats he's getting.
	The Democrats are going to do everything they can even to start a war to prevent him from getting in, which means they could end up doing a special continuity of government distraction, and that would cause another person to be in office temporarily until it gets under control to distract from that.
	That means they'd have to move out all Congress, all the heads of state and certain people to other locations like even Harris or Biden.
	You know what struck me is that Democrats are more communist than Russia.
	I mean, this is just insane!
	It's happened.
	Jim, do you have a call coming in?
	Oh, yeah, I do, yeah.
	I miss it.
	Okay, let's bring it in.
	708, join the conversation.
	Five minutes.
	Go ahead.
	Hello?
	Yeah, go ahead and join the conversation.
	Go ahead.
	This is Colonel Mike.
	I'm listening to this show.
	Is Dr. Rogers on this show?
	Hey Jim, I haven't had this good of a sleep since I was with Starlink and Elon last week.
	I'm telling you, I'm laying down listening and I'm almost catching the AAHD vibe.
	It's all over the map.
	I was just tuning in because I heard Sandy Hook And then I remember a place in New York when I was a kid called Red Hook, and I was trying to put the conspiracy together when Albert Anastasia murdered six guys on the corner of Red Hook with Sandy Hook.
	Then I went to Amazon to look for the book and I couldn't find it.
	But anyway, guys, it's a great show.
	Well, you can't find the book because it's been banned.
	But I'm telling you, you can download the book for free.
	Go to my blog, Jim Fetzer, Fake News, The Truth vs.
	Alex Jones.
	And you scroll down to the bottom, you can download both.
	Nobody died.
	Oh, hold on a minute.
	I got Alex in the room with me.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, hold on a minute.
	Black Hawk helicopter's coming in.
	Get that ginger juice.
	Ginger juice will make you feel strong.
	Here they come.
	What a fucking moron that is, I'll tell you.
	10-9.
	Go ahead, grab it up, Keith.
	Black Hawk helicopters coming in.
	Here comes Trump.
	MAGA.
	He's got the MAGA balloons on his...
	Oh, that's the Trump jet!
	Hold on a minute, get that ginger juice.
	Get sea foam, sea foam.
	This is Colonel Mike from the Two Mikes or America Out Loud network over there.
	He's one of my good friends.
	He teams up with Colonel Michael Schuer, who's former CIA. That's Dr. Mike.
	I'm the colonel.
	He's the doctor.
	He's the surgeon.
	Hey, Jim, you got to come on one day with Keith.
	I got to keep him down to three subjects.
	Otherwise, we go from Africa to China to Kazakhstan in six seconds.
	Colonel Mike, I'm glad to do it.
	Sign me up.
	I'm up for it.
	No, I think Keith's a great guy.
	He comes in with some super information.
	I always like having him on.
	In fact, we've got a show tonight, Keith.
	We're going to be live at 8 o'clock.
	Remember, America Out Loud dot news.
	America Out Loud dot news tonight.
	The National Security Hour with Keith Rogers, live in Montana with the Indian Reservation and Paul Revere and the Raiders.
	Remember that song?
	Remember that song, Jim?
	Yeah.
	I like Paul Riviere and the Raiders.
	Why not?
	Put me in, too, folks.
	Okay, I got a question for both of you guys who are brainiacs.
	Who was more popular in the beginning of the British invasion?
	Was it the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, or Dave Clark Five?
	Beatles.
	No!
	Dave Clark Five was number one, man.
	Everybody thinks it was the Beatles or Rolling Stones.
	Dave Clark Five was the number one group back in the day.
	Glad all over.
	Yeah, that was it.
	In launching the British invasion, yeah, it was wonderful.
	What a great period of popular music.
	These kids have no fucking idea.
	This is live on radio, but they got no idea with this rap crap.
	It sounds like the car's burping when it goes down the road.
	It's all about the frequencies that they put out.
	Yeah, it is.
	Think about it.
	432 is what you need to buy.
	432 frequency music.
	Listen, Keith, thank you for joining today, John.
	Great, of course, to have you here.
	I appreciate the calls from Frank, from Brian, and now from Colonel Mike.
	Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
	And support Revolution Radio.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Merry Christmas.
	Happy holidays.
	Bye-bye now.
	Thanks for joining.
	Same to you guys.
	Thank you, John.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Always glad to hear from you, my friend.
	I don't hear the music.
	I don't know why we're not hearing it.
	Keep talking, Rick.
	I'll go on one of these other shows too.
	Check up on me in the next week and see what's going on.
	Can I ask John a question?
	Go ahead.
	John, are they building internment camps around the country?
	Are you aware of that?
	I've heard that for the last 10 years with FEMA people.
	I had FEMA contacts and all of a sudden they cut me off.
	I believe they are.
	They're converting them.
	Yeah.
	Are they going to be for the...
	I heard it might be for the immigrants to get them together and then ship them out.
	I don't see why we just don't ship them out if we can do it.
	Those are different.

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