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The Raw Deal (18 Dec 2024) "Fearsome Foursome" edition, with Victor-Hugo Vaca and Joachim Hagopian

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	Not just anybody.
	You know I need someone.
	I'm so much younger than today.
	I never need anybody's help in any way.
	But now, these days, the God has not so self-assured.
	I'll find a change of mind.
	I'm open up the door.
	Don't see if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Welcome to the fearsome foursome edition of The Rob Deal right here on Revolution Radio Studio B this 18th day of December 2024 where three of us are together.
	we're awaiting Russ Winter's arrival.
	Joaquin Agobian and Victor Hugo Bacca are here with me.
	Gentlemen, I gotta say, your presentations were sensational, and Joaquin, I gotta say, you were so impassioned in your delivery, and what you were saying was so substantial I, as the organizer of the conference, regarded what you said as the highlight of the entire conference.
	And that's not to minimize the quality of the others.
	I'm just saying I thought yours was phenomenal.
	Well, I have to thank you for that.
	Yeah, I thought...
	When I get riled up, this is the new story of the ages killing off the human race.
	We don't know if it's ever really even been done before with all the hidden history.
	We don't even know.
	But we know now that they're killing the human race, a sizable portion.
	So, yeah, I get very passionate about wanting to stay alive.
	Let me say I'm really very impressed that my video webmaster, Michael Ivey, has been successful.
	He already got up all of Saturday and he's got half of Sunday up already.
	I mean, this is remarkable.
	Victor Hugo, what was your impression of the conference such parts as you may have had the chance to catch?
	I thought it was interesting how a lot of people are on the same page as to what's happening, what the problem is, and they were Unafraid to speak truth to power.
	I thought that was really refreshing.
	I was also impressed with the number of people that were tuned in and watching, and also the number of people that are watching now afterwards.
	I think you put together a really diverse lineup of people who otherwise, you wouldn't have figured, were of like mind.
	And the conspiracies are actually turning into...
	They're facts.
	We're exposing the reality.
	So that's really impressive.
	I congratulate you, Jim, for putting this all together.
	And yeah, Joaquim, you were awesome.
	And when you say that, of course, what you mean is that what's been regarded as mere rumor, speculation, guesswork is being generally accepted as having been well-founded and true, which it was from the beginning, but not true.
	Widely accepted.
	I think you're correct.
	And I gotta say, Victor Hugo, I think you're pounding home relentlessly the role of the Jew.
	And of course, we had an extensive discussion with Bryan Davidson about why that, yes, is a simplification, but it's getting at a profound truth about the role of the Zionist zealots in promoting the extermination of humanity and enlarging the role of Israel to the greater Israel and bringing about no end of nefarious, criminal, sadistic activities.
	I think you're having a powerful effect.
	People are getting the message.
	And I do think your rhetorical style is such that it's very disarming.
	People are willing to hear from you, things they have in the past been unwilling to hear from others, and it's got a whole lot to do with your style and personality.
	You're a phenom.
	I think it also has to do with, like, the old saying, it's the economy, stupid.
	You just have to really dumb it down for the masses.
	And that's not an insult to the masses.
	We've been dumbed down by design by those who don't want us to know our history and don't want us to know our past so that we can repeat it.
	And so in order to be able to communicate to people around the world, one thing that I've noticed in traveling around the world, there's one word that has four letters, begins with the letter F and ends with the letter K. Key West, if you say that word that sounds like truck and buck, people will get the message.
	So if you simplify, it's the Jews.
	People pretty much understand what the problem is.
	And that's not being racist, which is interesting because you also start dissecting the excuses that people give who have been, again, trained to believe that any ism Is something that they're responsible for?
	No, these are spellcasting.
	This is what they use to brainwash us, to control us with these words, just like George Orwell said in 1984. And so we're living it right now on steroids, and we have to break through that.
	And sometimes...
	I said it when I was on with Megyn Kelly on Fox News.
	I said, sometimes we have to get the audience by the proverbial throat and say, okay, now that we've got your attention, let me educate you.
	And, you know, we're in the end times.
	And you have all three of us having been in the military.
	When you're in the foxhole, you can't say, oh, please, excuse me.
	Can you pass me that rifle?
	You have to either lunge for it or just grab it.
	Because every second counts, and people don't understand the level of severity that we're in right now, because these people are taking advantage of our kindness and compassion.
	But we're dealing with psychopaths, and they don't have kindness or compassion.
	They're all about death and killing, and they're about killing us.
	So I'm in survival mode right now.
	Well, you and Joaquin, the styles are very different, but you're both...
	Devastatingly effective in getting your message across.
	Joaquin has published a transcript on my blog of his presentation.
	I'm gonna go there now and let's take a look at a bit of it.
	There's so much going on here.
	Joaquin.
	Let me take us there.
	I, of course, added the video version.
	Let me just kick off a little bit of this and I want you to talk about it.
	This is my third year in a row I've highlighted the ultimate crime of the ages, human genocide, on Jim's annual False Flight Conference.
	Every year I come back reporting it's only growing worse and more overt each passing year.
	The standard legal defense of genocide ratified by 153 UN member nations as of April 2022 emerges from the 1948 Genocide Convention to mean any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy and whole or in part a national,
	ethnical, racial, or religious group such as Killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction at whole or in part, imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
	Obviously today, the most blatantly obscene case for genocide is Israel's destruction of Gaza.
	Since October 7, 2023, the death toll is approaching 45,000 as of December 10, 44,758 Palestinians and wounded 105,834, which is a grossly low conservative estimate.
	Failing to count for the thousands of inaccessible, rotting corpses that lie beneath the mountains of rubble covering 60% of all Gaza buildings that now lie in ruins.
	Over five months ago, Lance's study placed a far more accurate estimate of over 186,000 Palestinian deaths out of 2.3 million and near 70% of the dead.
	Or women and children.
	All this tragedy on a gargantuan scale means about 8% of the total Palestinian population in Gaza have been brutally murdered in the last year and two months since this willful joint U.S.-Israeli genocide operation began, and if 8% are dead, upward of 20% of all Palestinians have been wounded.
	On top of all this loss and destruction, 87% of all schools have been hit or damaged, 90% of all cattle, 83% of all plant life, 70% of all water wells, agriculture, land, and food production have been destroyed.
	There could be no doubt genocide is taking place on a massive scale, and I think it was so appropriate you began with a definition, you know, as a legal framework.
	It's a powerful message, and the facts are, of course, 100% on your side.
	I think the numbers are going to wind up being even more staggering than we're seeing here, just as similar to Ukraine, where now the admission is coming that a million Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, and that's in about 100,000 Russians.
	The ratio is about 10 to 1. I'm not sure how many IDF Hamas or American soldiers Hamas has been able to take out, but they've been waging an heroic self-defense operation.
	You know, I mean, Israel claims that they're responding in self-defense October 7th, but it's so wildly disproportionate, even if you took October 7th to be legit, when it clearly was not.
	The idea of a couple hundred having been killed there and now going on with tens of thousands and obliterating everything that stands, I mean it's a Just grotesque what's taking place.
	And, of course, you're punishing a whole population for the crimes of a few, which under international law is collecting punishment.
	It's blatantly illegal.
	Geneva Conventions, UN Charter, Hague Convention, Geneva.
	Israel violates them all and yet claims impunity because they're responding to a higher law, God's law.
	This is just obscene beyond words.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, I'm waiting for some kind of consequence to come to Israel after all this killing.
	I mean, I don't believe, certainly with the technology now and videos going out from Gaza every day of the massacre, I don't see how the world can passively just sit by And let it happen.
	Particularly the Middle Eastern countries surrounding Israel.
	I mean, the Muslim countries.
	I don't understand.
	I mean, I kind of see it as they're going to take it to the level where it's World War III and the U.S. is going to get involved.
	And at that point, Russia and Iran and China will be involved against the US and Israel and NATO. And it could go where billions of people die.
	It could go where the whole human race and all life forms on the planet could die.
	And it probably won't.
	I don't think it will.
	But there will be many deaths.
	All around, if it goes to the West versus East World War III, there's no doubt about that.
	Millions and perhaps billions will be dead.
	And it will be relatively soon because I think it's going to happen.
	It's culminating basically in this coming year, in 2025, we're going to see it.
	It's irreversible because these morons, these puppet morons that just do what they're told by basically the money changers.
	Follow the money.
	That's the power structure that runs the earth.
	So they are just pawns, puppets doing what they're told.
	But they are basically rushing into Armageddon.
	And, you know, we all pay a price for their sins.
	And I'm just so sick of it.
	I wish the people could do something.
	But all we can do is watch and spread the word and call the bastards out that are doing it to us and hope that we can mobilize some kind of resistance that makes an impact on the war to hopefully stop it.
	I'm still waiting.
	I don't know.
	Well, I don't think it's going to be far into the year.
	I think this is going to happen before Trump's inauguration on the 20th of January.
	I think they're on an expedited schedule.
	They're fearful he's not going to play the game, even though his transition team is already talking about a preemptive strike on Iran, which would be catastrophic.
	Turkey has been playing both sides, trying to benefit itself.
	I've just got a report of a massive Turkish army on the border of Syria.
	Netanyahu, of course, wants Syria for Israel, or at least much of it, as part of the Greater Israel Project.
	Victor Hugo, your thoughts on all of them?
	Bob, and of course, we got this Monster bomb dropped in Lebanon that appears to have been a tactical nuke.
	It registered 3.0 on the Richter scale.
	The two mini-nukes used to take out the Twin Towers only registered 2.1 and 2.4.
	So I don't think there's any doubt.
	This actually is a nuke.
	Victor Hugo.
	I agree with Joaquim Hagopian and I just interviewed Max Egan on my New Revolution radio show and he also seems to agree with Joaquim Hagopian that humanity is careening over a cliff like Thelma and Louise and that most of humanity is already too far gone.
	To understand the warnings that some of us have been giving people for years, that they could have looked up if they had taken the time to research for themselves, because this plan is all in writing.
	And it is exactly that.
	It's a plan.
	If you just look up Agenda 21 and look up Agenda 2030, and even before that, read the Balfour Declaration, the Letter Albert Pike, the 1492 letter from the rabbi to the Sanhedrin.
	You'll understand this has been a long time coming.
	But I think shows like this, and especially what we witnessed with Truth First News, good people like Brian actually are caught in the Babylonian magic trick, the spell.
	He knew that That something is wrong, but people are afraid to let go of the material world.
	And I'm noticing that there's something in common with the people that get it and those that don't.
	The ones that don't want to get it is because they don't want to lose favor with either their boss or their children or wives or their neighbors, because this knowing comes at a cost.
	And I've lost my friends, my family, my income.
	But what I've realized is that you can't take it with you.
	You can't take the Corvette with you.
	You can't take the mansion with you.
	You can't take the fancy skateboard or...
	Boat or yacht with you.
	You can't.
	And so people are caught.
	And again, that's just an illusion.
	That's how they capture your soul with the material world.
	And so I think the ones, even in the Bible, it says the meek shall inherit the earth.
	And that's pretty profound because now it's the purebloods who will inherit the earth.
	The purebloods are the new meek, the one who stood up to their bosses and said, no.
	I'm not going to allow you to experiment with me by putting in that bioweapon disguised as a vaccine.
	And the others who fell for it because they said, oh, I don't want to lose my job.
	I want to go on vacation.
	I have to get a free burger and french fries with that.
	Now they're suffering.
	And now they're realizing that But it's a very hard pill to swallow to admit that you're wrong.
	And again, I think that was a very powerful broadcast that you did yesterday, Jim, inviting Brian, myself, and Don onto that show to speak about this candidly.
	And to Brian's credit, he was man enough to actually express himself.
	But I think going back and looking at that, eventually he's going to realize, you know what?
	Because even in some of the things that he said, he did admit that he knows what the problem is.
	But people are afraid.
	They're afraid to speak out.
	And it's by design.
	Again, they're creating these anti-Semitism laws and they're making it so that people like us are having trouble.
	But in speaking with Max Egan, he said he's not afraid.
	And that's what we need to do.
	You can't be afraid because that's how they rule over us.
	That's how they control us.
	So once enough of us shed that fear, they've lost, and they're starting to notice that.
	For example, I don't know if you know, but Tucker Carlson had a guest on, and his guest explained the Greater Israel Plan, which nobody in the fake news media or the mainstream media is talking about.
	And now people are like, wow, okay, yeah, so this has been planned.
	They're not in Syria because they're the victims and they're protecting themselves, like you said, about October 7th.
	They're in Syria because they want that land, because they want the resources that are underneath there.
	So this has nothing to do with religion or Jews.
	That's just an excuse.
	And I think enough people are starting to understand that.
	And so once you're able to talk about the Jews, I think we're going to find a solution.
	But until you name the problem, you can't even get a solution.
	So that's what we're busy doing right now.
	And I'm using humor.
	And thanks to platforms like yours, we're able to reach more people than you think, Jim.
	A lot of people are watching this.
	It's fascinating that even Tucker might not appreciate the Greater Israel Project.
	I mean, it's hardly news to anyone who's been paying attention.
	I mean, the two blue lines on the Israeli flag that's from the The Nile, and they want every big chunk of Egypt, Rosa, Saudi Arabia, Syria, all of Lebanon, all of Jordan, parts of Iraq, to be part of the greater Israel.
	So none of this is, as it were, organic or coincidental.
	It's all by design.
	Joaquin?
	Yeah, I mean, it's...
	Anybody that just studies the elemental of the previous history of just even a few years, I mean, the reality has been, for the last, what, 30 years at least, with the war on terror, all this bullshit, The divide and rule, divide and rule, divide and rule.
	They always pit one group against another or a whole bunch of groups against each other.
	And then they have wars.
	They sit back and they eat the popcorn.
	You know, it's not the, you know, the Patriots sitting back where the White Hats are going to win and we're eating popcorn.
	No, it's not like that.
	And so basically, it goes back to the whole time where the Bush, they did the Patriot Act prior to staging the 9-1-1 with Israel and the neocons.
	And they've been, I mean, since the Mujahideen, when Russia and Afghanistan were going at it, You know, they supported Muhyadine with Osama Bin Laden going there, and they've been basically financing, arming, sponsoring, training.
	The terrorists of this world, the largest groups of terrorists in this world, have been basically the doing of the United States and Israel, And the Gulf states.
	And throw Turkey in, especially with the latest.
	You know, they're amassing at the border.
	They are probably going to go in to Syria.
	And so it's going to be a land grab.
	Syria is a land grab for both the...
	Israel and Turkey.
	I mean, it's divide and rule, divide and rule, over and over again, until we finally begin to learn that it's the same controllers pulling the strings of all these groups, pitting them against each other, until we finally get the understanding of this evil dynamic that's been controlling all the major events on this earth for so long,
	centuries, We don't have a chance until we find out who the enemy is.
	And so that's what all of us are all about.
	And the enemy is Israel, and the enemy is very powerful Jews within this geopolitical system that we have, including the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and the basic money-changing banking cartel, all of these guys.
	But I do have to say, you know, you might say, well, this is a qualifier, and you're feeding into the whole...
	But I have to say...
	That if I was a Jew, I would not like to have anybody out there say, it's the Jews, it's the Jews.
	Because there are a lot of Jews that are against what Israel's doing.
	There are a lot of Jews that are regular middle-class folks who have no power.
	They're just like us, basically, struggling to make it and try and follow the truth.
	And so that's the only difference between Myself and you, Victor, because I do feel that we have to not lump everybody in.
	And I know you know this, and you're not against all Jews, of course.
	But when you do emphasize that point, I get it, because I see that they hold the power structure along with a few other groups.
	Let us not forget that there are high degree Freemasons that are in there.
	There's the Black nobility bloodlines, mostly in Europe, that are part of this whole thing.
	Some are Jews, some are not.
	There's the What else?
	The Pilgrim Society, there's all the Jesuits, that's the Catholic part, you know, and they're related to the Jews, too.
	So, yeah, it's a conglomeration of the power structure that have been controlling the earth and plotting all these horrific wars for centuries.
	And it's time we finally get it and go after the perpetrators and get rid of them.
	We give them military tribunals, and the ones that are responsible for doing all this harm to this earth and the people on it and all life forms on this earth...
	We've hit a break and we'll be right for their life.
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	Joaquin, did you want to complete your thoughts?
	I'm going to go to the next slide.
	One more point before Victor will respond.
	I also, in keeping with what I just said, there are idiots out there that want to blame somebody for their problems, for the problems of the world.
	And There are people that will be taken in by the whole thing.
	It's the Jews, it's the Jews.
	And they will think that every Jew is part of it.
	I know none of us are part of that as far as believing, you know, we're not anti-Semitic.
	But there are impressionable and young people that want to blame somebody for the shit that everybody's up against.
	And I'm a little bit concerned that if we go too overboard and not qualify it, that it's very powerful, elite, small percent of the Jews that are the problem.
	And you might argue that, but, you know, it's not a vast majority.
	And I'm concerned about impressionable, particularly young people that want to blame somebody and will blame innocent Jews.
	And that's my point.
	Good points.
	Good points all.
	Victor Hugo, yours.
	I completely agree with Joaquin, and that is why we are in a delicate dance right now to educate the public, especially the youth.
	However, understand and I appreciate that both of you will, because you guys have a military background, and Joaquin, you having been trained at West Point, I was trained at the U.S. Naval Academy that hesitation kills.
	And I was trained to be a leader, a leader of people whose lives were taken into my consideration as a nuclear subcommander or as a commander of an aircraft carrier.
	That means I was entrusted with the souls of every single person on that ship.
	Sometimes it could be thousands of people.
	So I had to know my enemy and I could not make a wrong decision.
	It could cost the lives of so many people.
	And then that has a repercussion because those people have families, those people have children and so on and so forth.
	So you have to take all that into consideration.
	And that's what I do.
	Having...
	Done that and been trained that way.
	I was trained to be a leader who had to make life and death decisions.
	That means sometimes I have to make decisions that are not easy, and that's why not everybody can understand that.
	But the reason why I say it's the Jews is because, again, if you're leading somebody and you have to tell them to do something that is life and death, you can't Even waste a moment of time in niceties, like saying, excuse me, would you mind if, could you please press that red button over there?
	By the time you're being nice to the people and saying, can you press the red button, you've already had a missile hit your ship and you're done, you're dead.
	You've just got to be like, fire!
	And that's it.
	They don't question you.
	And that's what you're taught in the military is don't question.
	So the thing is, you have to have integrity and you have to have intelligence.
	But most of all, you have to know your enemy.
	And what I know about my enemy and why I say it's the Jews and why I don't have a problem saying it's all the Jews until they prove me wrong.
	Like what happened in Vietnam and what happened in every other war.
	They were like, oh, you know what?
	There's some gooks over there.
	That one looks like he's nice.
	I don't know.
	That one's got a USA shirt on.
	That's cool.
	Don't shoot that one.
	You know, those are the ones who are like the Mossad.
	And realize the enemy that we have says, by deception, we shall wage war.
	And then you look into it, and then it says the Jewish Talmud, not the Amish Talmud, not the Seventh-day Adventist Talmud.
	It says...
	Jews may use lies to circumvent the non-Jew.
	And then I go back to the Yom Kippur, the Kol Nidra prayer.
	So I have to assess my enemy, and I don't care if you're my neighbor, I don't care if you're my boss, I don't care if you're my customer.
	I gotta ask you, hey, you know, by the way, do you celebrate Yom Kippur?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Okay.
	So you say the Kol Nidra prayer.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So in my mind, I already know this person can't be trusted.
	Because you may say that it's not all Jews, but I'm sorry if you tell me that the Christians have a prayer that say that they can annul any vow or contract or handshake or promise, then I'd say it's the Christians.
	Because the thing is, where are the Jews protesting all of this?
	You know, people get upset at the blacks, and again, this isn't being racist, and this isn't stereotyping, but the statistics show, and statistics are math, they don't lie.
	Most crimes are committed by black people, okay?
	So if you see a black person walking across the street or a group of blacks and you're a white person, you're an idiot if you don't, like, walk on the other side or are a little bit more cautious.
	Yeah, you can make pretend that you're like, oh, I'm not racist, and then you get your ass kicked.
	All right, cool.
	So you're not racist, but you got your ass kicked.
	I'm not that kind of person.
	I'm not going to sit here.
	Like, again, I've been trained.
	If I see something and it looks like, you know, trouble, then I'm going to steer my people away from that.
	The point that I'm making is Candace Owens is obviously not one of those black people because you actually see Candace Owens speaking the way that I'm speaking.
	Where are the Jews?
	Where are these good Jews?
	Where are these Jews out there speaking and saying, hey, you know what?
	Candace Owens was just voted the anti-Semite of the year.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, and you know, again, those good Jews, they come on my show.
	I've had those good Jews on my show.
	And they're the ones warning me and warning viewers and saying, hey, listen, Joaquin is right.
	Jim is right.
	Victor Hugo is right.
	It's not all the Jews.
	And I'm proof positive because I'm a Jew and I'm out here warning you about the other Jews.
	Well, we need more of those Jews.
	We need to see...
	All the Jews that you see out protesting for killing the people in Palestine, and I can show you footage of that, where they're like, oh, we're going to get your land.
	Oh, it's good.
	We want to kill your babies.
	You know what?
	Those are your neighbors.
	There's so many Jews on the other side of that picketing, and I just don't see it, you know?
	So until we start getting those Jews to start being like those Blacks, like Candace Owens and others, I'm going to have Cynthia McKinney on my show.
	She's a good Black person.
	And I'm not saying all Blacks are bad, but...
	Some Blacks have the same thing with Hispanics.
	If you want to say Hispanics, not all Hispanics are MS-13, but there's a lot of Hispanics who are like, hey man, listen, we don't want the open borders.
	This Alejandro Mayorkas is destroying our place.
	Send these Hispanics back.
	I see that with Hispanics.
	I see that with Blacks.
	I just don't see it with the Jews.
	And until I start seeing that with the Jews, I'm going to continue because I've been trained by the U.S. military using your taxpayer dollars to identify the enemy and to protect my people.
	And as far as I'm concerned, Jim, you're my people.
	Joaquin, you're my people.
	And I'll take the bullets if I have to.
	But I'm going to keep warning you guys.
	It's the Jews.
	And like I said, until I see Jews lined up everywhere saying, it's not all of us Jews.
	We don't all agree that even the best of non-Jews should all be killed.
	Then I'll be like, okay, cool.
	Cool.
	Got it.
	All right.
	That's just because I'm not an anti-Semite.
	No, we know.
	We know.
	We know.
	Candace...
	It's such a sensation.
	I mean, she's so articulate.
	She's so intelligent.
	She's so spot on and just impressive.
	And she just did an interview with Phil Turney, who is a survivor of the attack on the USS Liberty.
	You know, I've read all about the USS Liberty, but just actually seeing the survivor who's been an advocate for, you know, telling the truth for so many years now.
	Yes.
	You had to stay quiet.
	All the crew members.
	They would go to jail if they even opened their mouth about the truth of Israel killing their comrades on the USS Liberty.
	And anyway, it was a fantastic interview.
	And yes, she is a marvel.
	She is really very intelligent.
	And I really love the way she handled the interview.
	And I love the veteran on the USS Liberty.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Can you name one Jew that's like Candace Owens, Joaquin?
	How about Max Blumenthal?
	Yeah, he's a good one.
	No, he is.
	He is.
	He's a great son.
	He's a truth teller.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	I'll have to look at that.
	There you go.
	There are a few, buddy.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	What's so remarkable about the Liberty thing, of course, is you had a U.S. president in collusion with the Israelis to set up Egypt for a nuclear attack.
	So, you know, I mean, this was Lyndon Johnson perfidy.
	He wanted that ship sunk.
	And of course the Israelis all knew it was flying an American flag.
	They called back to their controller and they said to go ahead and attack it anyway.
	They did their damnedest to sink that ship!
	And now we have Trump.
	Other U.S. military that tried to aid were told, get back, get away, don't be helping those people.
	I mean, it's just such a dark chapter in U.S. history.
	And of course, Lyndon Johnson was part of the whole Kennedy assassination.
	Of course.
	He was the instigator.
	I mean, who...
	As Madeleine Duncan Brown, one of his long-time mistress, by whom he had a child, Stephen, they began an affair in 48. She bore him a son, Stephen, in 1950. During a rendezvous they had just six weeks after the assassination, she confronted him with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.
	And he blew up at her and told her the CIA and the oil boys had decided he had to be taken out, but it originated in Los Angeles in 1960. When Jack beat Lyndon for the Democrat nomination and invited Stuart Symington to be his VP running mate, but gave him overnight to think about it, Bobby went by the Johnson suite to extend a pro forma symbolic invitation to run.
	I mean, this happens all the time.
	He was just floored, flabbergasted.
	When Linden jumped on it and threatened to expose that Jack had Addison disease, wasn't expected to live a long, healthy life, that among his dalliances was one with a beautiful woman who was a spy for East Germany, and that if he were not on the ticket, then any legislative proposal sent down by the White House would be dead on arrival because as a powerful majority leader, he'd bottle them up.
	Jack and Bobby tried to figure a way out, but Linden had him boxed in, and they had to accede to his demand.
	When one of Linden's wealthy backers learned this, he burst into the Johnson's Week cursing and swearing, because now LBJ would help JFK become president.
	Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind.
	He came out all smiles, saying he thought that was an excellent plan.
	Bobby Baker would later declare in public JFK would not live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
	And Lyndon Johnson would send his chief administrative aide, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
	The single best book is by Phil Nelson, LBJ mastermind of JFK's assassination.
	And while he's been criticized for the use of the word, he has the right concept.
	This was one really repulsive guy, but Madeleine and I had a lunch together and she was telling me how John Connolly said it would take every word in the dictionary that he couldn't describe linen.
	I said, no, no, Madeleine, you're misunderstanding.
	Linden had so many strengths for good, but also so many for evil, it would take every adjective in the dictionary to describe him.
	And to my assessment, I would explain to Madeline Duncan Brown what John Connolly meant by Linden.
	Among the interesting remarks she made to me was, of LBJ, he knew what to do with a woman.
	What a life you've lived, Jim.
	The people you've met.
	The stories you've got, man.
	It's incredible.
	Fascinating.
	Linden used to be playing secretary.
	He's right there in the Oval Office.
	In fact, Lady Burton came down once and caught him in the act, so he had strict instruction with the Secret Service to notify him any time the First Lady left their private quarters.
	He impregnated one of them.
	This is a fascinating story.
	In his age, Jack Volante married her.
	So then Jack Bellini has a daughter fathered by Lyndon Baines Johnson.
	And if you look at her photographs, you can see, I mean, there's no question about it.
	And of course, he become the Zara Hollywood.
	And in that role, he launched a campaign to defeat Oliver Stone and JFK from becoming Best Picture, which he should deserve by a mile.
	But politically, he didn't want it out, you know, that Linden had such a key role, even though it wasn't laid out in the specificity I've just given.
	The idea that Linden was behind it was very much present.
	So Melendi remained true.
	His loyalty to LBJ overrode his loyalty to Hollywood, to cinema, to the American people.
	And it's just astounded me how many political Democrat figures have sought to protect Lyndon Johnson's reputation.
	Including the David Talbot, this book, The Devil's Chessboard, trying to palm it off on Alan Dulles.
	Alan Dulles was a pinball compared to Lyndon Johnson.
	He was a hands-on guy.
	You know, Lyndon was going to make sure.
	That's why they had eight shooters!
	Joaquin, they had eight shooters in dealing plot.
	He was going to make sure that guy was dead, because the worst possible outcome was a wounded, but not mortally wounded president, which would unleash all the powers of the government to...
	He was the only guy who could guarantee everyone who participated would never pay any penalty for it as a president.
	He could manage all that, and it was really an ingenious plan from a diabolical point of view, but if only Jack's policies And he was taken out primarily for reason to policy.
	He wanted to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.
	He didn't want to go into Vietnam.
	He was going to pull our troops out.
	Bobby was cracking down on the mafia.
	He was going to cut the oil depletion allowance.
	He'd instructed the Treasury to print United States notes, thinking it was absurd to pay a consortium of private banks interest for printing the currency of the United States when Treasury could do it for nothing.
	Israel, it was that loggerheads with David Ben-Gurion who wanted Israel to have nukes.
	Anti-Castro Cubans wanted revenge.
	They thought he'd betrayed them at the bigs by not providing air support, but he'd made it clear from the beginning that there should be no overt U.S. involvement.
	But the CIA found it beneficial for them to retain that belief.
	Lyndon's own personal hitman, Malcolm Mack Wallace, was among the shooters.
	He killed a dozen people for Lyndon, including one of his own sisters.
	And the story is just staggering when you get into the details of it.
	All concealed from the American people.
	The government's never going to change.
	Lee Oswald was in the doorway of the book depository when the motorcade passed by.
	So he not only cannot have been the lone dominant gunman, he can't even have been one of the eight shooters.
	I mean, wow, the lies we are told.
	George H.W. Bush was there in Dallas.
	He and Edward Lansdale were the supervisors.
	Lansdale was responsible for assassinations, especially in Vietnam.
	Operation Phoenix appears to have positioned the shooters and determined the sequence of shots.
	And GHW was actually in the...
	Daltec, supervising the anti-Castro shooter, was the only one with an unsilenced weapon.
	He had a man, like Kirk Arcado, fired three shots to create the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
	What a story!
	Would you believe he was arrested coming out of the Daltecs?
	George H. W. Bush was arrested coming out of the Daltecs?
	It's fascinating!
	God!
	Victor, Jim, if you...
	I mean, the demon, obviously, you get spread around.
	LBJ was a huge one, but so was George H.W. Bush.
	Oh, sure, the angling shooting was to convey the message, let George do it.
	He was actually shot under the armpit by a Secret Service agent with a plochette that barely missed his heart, but he got the message.
	And it was like, what, a month?
	Just over a month, actually, in office when he came to the assassination.
	Yeah, and when he was made the head of the CIA, they claimed the first time they'd had a civilian not associated with the agency become head, which was nonsense.
	He'd been supervising to be a pig sob, which was called Operation Zapata.
	The Bush family oil drinking was the Zapata.
	I think if they succeeded...
	They would have had the concession to drill all over the Caribbean basin.
	But, of course, it turned out to be a piosco.
	Guess what?
	CIA have learned the Soviets knew the date of the invasion and they didn't form Castro.
	So the only one who didn't know was the commander-in-chief.
	I mean, Jack would have called it off as soon as he learned Castro knew we were coming.
	What?
	What a colossal calamity for the United States.
	Wow.
	So, Jim, taking what you just said...
	...of history.
	Yeah, right?
	It's amazing.
	Taking what you said into consideration and then hypothesizing it to 2025 with Donald Trump, you realize that the attempted assassinations that the public were told was a farce because a real assassination would have been carried out the way that Lyndon Johnson carried out, and there wouldn't have been any kind of opportunity for Donald Trump to rise up with his fist up in the air and say, fight, fight, fight.
	It wasn't it, Victor.
	Just a bit iconic.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like a month after the incident, a month later, that photo was on a book written by Donald Trump.
	It was all set up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But now realize how Trump didn't do himself any favors by putting J.D. Vance in as his vice president with what you just said about Lynda B. Johnson and how he basically sold out Kennedy.
	So now here's Trump.
	If he doesn't do exactly what the Jewish mafia wants him to do, just like with Kennedy, if Trump decides to get rid of the Federal Reserve to make sure that AIPAC is listed as a lobby group to stop funding Israel and all this stuff, then if Trump decides to get rid of the Federal Reserve to make sure that AIPAC is listed as a lobby group to
	We realize Peter Thiel totally works for the CIA, and just because he's doing this stuff as a private contractor doesn't mean that he's totally connected with the Jewish mafia.
	So they're going to give Trump the order.
	They're going to say, listen, you do what we say or remember what happened to Kennedy.
	So Trump's either going to do what he's got to do Or Peter Thiel will have no problem working with J.D. Vance to assassinate Trump.
	And this time, they won't make a mistake.
	It's not going to require Peter Thiel.
	Mossad will do it.
	They'll take care of it.
	But look, I'm very interested in what you think happened when Trump had that conversation with Obama when he first came into office that was supposed to last 15 minutes and wound an hour and a half.
	Joaquin, I'm sure you pondered this.
	What do you think Obama said to Trump that led him to look like a ghost when he came out?
	I think Obama has actually said this, that he didn't want to get himself killed.
	And therefore, he, in so many ways, followed his program.
	You know, CIA groomed all the way up.
	He's going to be a soldier for the CIA and the whole cabal.
	And I think that he might have filled in Trump about you either do your job and do what you're told, or you might get your ass killed.
	Yeah.
	Be taken out.
	The bottom line.
	Victory, Hugo, your thoughts?
	Yeah, I think that's the problem with not just the United States, but with a lot of countries around the world.
	Look what happened to Gaddafi.
	Look what happened to Khomeini.
	Look what happened to Assad right now.
	I mean, basically, they're all just puppets.
	And unfortunately, the people are looking for leadership because the people feel like they can't lead themselves.
	And as long as we have puppet leaders around, nothing's going to change.
	We're just going to continue to live a lie.
	So I don't know if this is just the...
	Some people say this is hell on earth and this is what we're supposed to deal with.
	Demons and devils leading us.
	But yeah, I mean, until...
	None of these people are actually our leaders.
	When you realize that Trump doesn't even have the highest intelligence clearance...
	That there's way more people ahead of him that know more that's going on than he does.
	Then you realize he's really not in control of anything.
	And look what happened with the 2020 election.
	He allowed it literally to be stolen from him.
	So what kind of power really does the commander-in-chief have?
	That's why these people who still believe in Q and trust the plan and the White Hats are in control, I don't know what kind of level of stupid that is.
	I... I used to think that stuff too, but eventually you start realizing, you're like, wait a minute, none of this makes sense.
	There's so much damage has been wrought upon the United States by the Biden-Harris admin, and it's to me unthinkable they should have been allowed to come into office.
	You know, right now they're selling off the parts of the wall so that they can make it harder.
	They're trying to entrench, I don't know, 1,500 DEIs in permanent social, you know, civil service positions so they can thwart Trump.
	I mean, they're doing all this chickenship stuff.
	And that's like they're dedicated to it.
	Joaquin, I'm just floored by some of this.
	Yeah, I think, and I say it a lot in my articles, too.
	Obama came in as the CIA groomed traitor to destroy America.
	And because he's such a smooth operator in blackface, he fooled a lot of people.
	He still fooled a lot of people, actually.
	And I believe that they brought Biden in basically to finish the job of destroying America.
	Because Biden, he's never been in charge, and the deep state traitors that are out to destroy America were in 100% position to destroy America with the figurehead senile man in the White House.
	And yeah, I'm pissed off at Trump, because he obviously, he said it right at the time of the election.
	This is stolen.
	This is not a fair election.
	He knew it, but he, like the prize fighter that takes the fall and takes the count and goes out because it's a fixed fight.
	He did that.
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	Hi, this is the Maverick artist Victor Hugo reporting modern art gonzo journalism for the Modern Art Music Movement.
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	Eastern Standard Time, the Modern Art Gonzo Journalism Show on Revolution Radio, and I will be hopefully having Joaquim Hagolpian as a future guest in 2025. What do you say, Joaquim?
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	Anytime you want to get together, my friend, I'm in.
	Cool.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, we started with Max Egan.
	We had the premiere of the show yesterday, and tomorrow I'm going to be having Leo Zagami on the show.
	Are there any questions, Joaquin, that you think I should ask Leo Zagami?
	You know who he is, right?
	Yeah.
	He's exposed a lot on the Catholic Church and a lot of the no-good shit at the Vatican.
	Yeah.
	I think he was one of them for a while.
	Didn't he break away from it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He was like a whistleblower for the Catholic Church, against the Catholic Church, yeah.
	What question should I ask him?
	Who is it?
	Who are you going to be interviewing?
	Leo Zagami, do you have any questions that you suggest I ask Leo Zagami when I have him on the show tomorrow, Jim?
	Let me ponder that.
	Let me ponder that.
	Because I was, of course, going to ask him about the Jews.
	And Jim, I was wondering if we could cover that CNN story that you got about Syria.
	That was fake news.
	We called that, didn't we, Jim?
	Yes.
	We knew that was fake.
	Yes.
	Let me get it back up.
	I lose some of my stories.
	One second.
	That's one of the good things about this apocalypse.
	The veil is being lifted.
	This is an awakening.
	I mean, years ago, people would have fell for that hook, line, and sinker, but now CNN is having to admit that they're fake news.
	I don't even know how they can even still have people watching that stuff.
	I want to go through several of these.
	You know, the Russians have a very high quality special air force group called the White Squadron, and they're going in and they're taking out a whole lot of...
	You know, what remnants of the Ukrainian military.
	I think they're really pissed off.
	Did you know this Russian general who was killed was the one who accused the Democrats of funneling profits from the secret Ukrainian bio labs to fund elections?
	That he was the guy who did that?
	That'll get him killed.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that fascinating?
	Yeah, he basically called out all those bioweapon labs in Ukraine.
	He was a good man, a good man, a truth teller.
	Jim, I told you yesterday, I had a Jewish whistleblower who was going to come on the show.
	I treated myself to a wild Alaskan company.
	Go ahead.
	Nice.
	He was going to expose what's going on at the Lugar Bio Lab in Tbilisi, Georgia.
	And then he contacted me After seeing what happened to that Russian guy who got assassinated, and he canceled the interview with me about the Lugar biolapse, and nobody's actually talking about this.
	He said that he fears for his life now, and the information that he was going to share with me was something...
	I don't know.
	He's not an idiot, Victor Hugo.
	Here's the story.
	Here's the story.
	Okay.
	Now you talk about terror What about for me?
	I've been terrorized All my days We have an update for you on the CNN situation.
	They are now admitting that their segment, at least in part, was a complete lie that we showed all of you on Thursday, where you had this miraculous freeing of a prisoner who had allegedly been in the cell for months on end.
	And even though he'd been there for months, there was no waste in the cell, and his nails were perfectly manicured, and he actually looked fine, and he wasn't pale, or didn't show signs of acute malnutrition, or of hunger, or of lacking water for several days.
	Well, it just turns out that at the very least, the name that he gave them is totally wrong.
	Let's put this up there on the screen.
	According to CNN themselves, they tracked down some of the people who knew him, and they say a man who was filmed by CNN, note the passive language, being released by rebels from a Damascus jail was...
	A former intelligence officer with the deposed Syrian regime, according to local residents.
	Not an ordinary citizen who had been imprisoned, as he had claimed.
	CNN initially found the man while pursuing leads.
	In a video report, Clarissa Ward and her team, accompanied by a rebel guard, came across a cell in Damascus that was padlocked.
	The guard blew off the lock and the man was found alone inside the cell.
	When he emerged, he appeared bewildered.
	Questioned by the rebel fighter who freed him, he identified himself as Adel Gurbol from the central Syrian city of Homs.
	He claimed he had been kept in the cell for three months.
	However, his real identity is said to be a lieutenant in the Assad regime Air Force Intelligence Directorate Salama Mohammed Salama, a resident of Bayada neighborhood and homes, gave CNN a photograph said to be of the same man while he was on duty in what appears to be a government office.
	Facial recognition then matched him to that role.
	And it appears that he was actually in prison as of a month ago because he had been extorting and shaking people down for, quote, profit-sharing from extorted funds with a higher-ranking officer.
	So, okay, at the very least, the story is bullshit, right?
	Three months in jail, nope, he was in prison less than a month ago.
	They said he was some heartbroken rebel prisoner.
	No, it turns out he was an Assad intelligence thug who had been imprisoned for shaking people down, maybe, according to them.
	And then, his current whereabouts, completely unknown.
	So this raises all kinds of questions.
	And it's a total joke and terrible look for CNN. Because they just broadcast this stuff without a single...
	They don't check anything.
	They don't ask anything.
	They broadcast it live.
	Everybody's reacting to it.
	Chris, I'm sure you saw, this is one of the most...
	Extraordinary moments in American television that I've ever seen.
	Normal people are like, this is a bullshit, okay?
	I didn't come out and say it 100%, because you never know, Ryan and I, but we were like, well, it looks fake.
	You guys are very diplomatic.
	I watched your section, you're very diplomatic.
	You've got to leave a possibility of it.
	Internally, I was just like, yeah.
	Well, just for people who didn't see your original segment and maybe haven't seen this original CNN segment, let's relive, and just in your mind, imagine if you were...
	The story they're selling here is that this man has been in prison for at least three months, that he's gone days and days without water.
	I mean, you can only go a short period of time before you die without water.
	And that he's been hiding under this blanket the whole time, yet he's, you know, he's like...
	His haircut looks pretty fresh.
	The jacket he's wearing is really clean.
	There's still a lot of questions.
	So let's go ahead and relive this CNN segment and then I can tell you a little bit more about what we know on the other side.
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	I'm a civilian, he says.
	I'm a civilian.
	Okay, you're okay.
	You're okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Okay, it's water.
	It's water.
	After three months in a windowless cell, he can finally see the sky. - So, you know, it went on from there, He sees the sky.
	Yeah, and there's a whole emotional scene, etc.
	In any case, let's go and put up on the screen.
	CNN was not the outlet that first tracked down who this individual actually was.
	It was this organization, which calls itself like a Syrian fact checker, The headline here, updated to CNN, fabricate the story of, quote, freeing a Syrian detainee from a secret prison.
	They are the ones who tracked down the actual identity of this individual and talked to local residents and got the story from them.
	And according to local residents, he was imprisoned, as you said, Sagar, less than a month.
	It was due to a dispute over profit sharing from extorted funds with a higher ranking officer.
	So it was the Assad government itself who had imprisoned their own guy, right?
	And then he also was known, allegedly, again, according to local residents, as someone who had murdered and tortured civilians.
	So not exactly the heartwarming tale that CNN wants you to take away from their original reporting.
	But the other thing is, so many questions still remain.
	Because even now that we know the apparent identity of this man and the reason that he was apparently imprisoned, The whole setup still seems really fake.
	You know, the whole idea that he was in prison for so long that he had no food and water, that they just stumbled upon him and miraculously rescued him, etc., etc.
	It raises a lot of questions.
	And it's also just incredible.
	You know, I don't...
	Clarissa Ward, she's a longtime foreign correspondent.
	She's been in war zones.
	This is not someone who is just naively showing up.
	Certainly she's been in a lot of dicey situations with a lot of people who want to propagandize you and convince you and trick you, etc.
	So the fact that this was just accepted at face value is really quite wild to me.
	Oh, absolutely.
	She should know better than anybody else.
	But Ryan was bringing this up, and I think it's actually the most important.
	These journalists, they're not neutral people.
	As in, Clarissa Ward admitted to sending an email to Ben Rhodes, who was the national security deputy under Barack Obama and was like, I hope that you're happy with yourself because she was upset with him for not bombing the Assad regime.
	In 2013, she admitted on the stage to all of this.
	She literally said on this issue, I'm an activist.
	And so what happens?
	We all get carried away.
	You know, I'm particularly aggravated by this entire situation because you would think that these Al-Qaeda guys are the greatest heroes on Earth.
	And listen, I'm fine with value-neutral analysis.
	I'm openly was fine, not fine, but I said, well, it's preferable to leave Afghanistan and let the Taliban take over.
	I know the Taliban is bad.
	I know a lot of people will suffer.
	I just don't think we should have anything to do with it.
	But you basically have two regimes who are now effectively the same.
	Look at the media treatment of the way that the U.S. pullout from Afghanistan has happened and look at these people.
	They're like heroes, you know?
	And, you know, let's check in five, six years from now.
	Let's see how it works out for the Alawite Christians or for the Druze population.
	Or the Shia or any of these other religious minorities.
	Let's see.
	You know, everybody said, oh, Afghanistan's gonna be a harbor of terrorism and all this stuff.
	Why don't they say the same stuff about Syria?
	Like somehow they've decided that Assad was worse.
	And look, he's not a good guy, but you don't have a lot of good options to choose from here.
	So that's why I'm just infuriated by people like her and all these other Western journalists who selectively decide who the good guy is and who the bad guy is.
	And it doesn't even make any sense.
	Its internal logic is completely contradictory.
	It's totally ridiculous.
	I love the wonderful show.
	I'm going to have to go back and...
	What about for me?
	You know, I've done this before.
	Alas.
	All my days.
	All my days.
	All right.
	That gives me a chance to play the harmonica with those blues.
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	That guy looks like a Jew.
	Welcome, friends, to another but also a special...
	What is this, the Jew Hour?
	All of a sudden, I've seen a lot of Jews popping up there, Jed.
	What's going on?
	I know, I know, I know.
	What?
	That thing with Crystal and that other guy was really, really good.
	I mean, they were calling it like it is.
	I'm not used to seeing that on anywhere on the internet.
	I thought that was terrific.
	Yes.
	And the Jews, according to the Talmud...
	Say again?
	Joaquin, I missed your point.
	I say it really shows the desperation of CNN. You know, when they have cooking shows that are drawing more audience than CNN, you know, they get desperate.
	Yeah.
	That was just a wonderful expose of that little fraudulent pizza.
	Wasn't that wonderful how they dissected it from multiple points of view?
	I loved it.
	Victor!
	But it was so obvious.
	We called that out the other day, Jim.
	Remember?
	I mean, I told you, the guy's beard was better shaven than mine, and his fingers were well trimmed.
	His jacket was good.
	I'm like, wait a minute, this guy looks better than me.
	What's going on over here?
	I should be in prison and look that good.
	But the other thing is, according to the Jews, that Clara Ward reporter, she's a filthy nitty whore, according to the Talmud.
	And you know what?
	For once, I have to agree with the Jews because, yeah, she's a filthy nitty whore running around playing with people's emotions.
	And that's the problem.
	That's why you got people...
	You're talking about the CNN report.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that's not the first time she's done that.
	I've seen her also claiming to be in an area where there's bombs going off, and you see her huddled down and everything like that, and there's nothing going on.
	I love how I come down and look at the sky!
	It's still there!
	And you know what?
	Another clear tell was, remember when they gave him food to eat?
	She gave him some food.
	And the guy, if you really hadn't eaten that long, you would have scarfed it down with your hands.
	He actually took the food, looked at it, was like, oh, this is gross.
	He put it down on the floor and then started like, you know, I'm like, wait a minute.
	Listen, if you're hungry, you don't throw away food that they just offer you.
	So none of that made any sense.
	And yet, still, again, just goes to show you how gullible people are.
	They buy it all.
	Because it's on the TV and because it's on CNN or MSNBC or because ABC News is telling you that it must be true.
	And that's why people rolled up their sleeves and were like, you know, it must be safe and effective.
	Go ahead.
	And that's the problem that we're dealing with, guys.
	That's what we're dealing with.
	We're dealing with a trusting, dumbed-down public.
	Yes.
	More people are getting it.
	More people see the theater of it, you know, the fakeness of it.
	You know, people like us are getting more attention as CNN loses their audience.
	So that's the good part is truth is coming out more and more.
	Yep, migrating.
	And also, we're having conversations that are real.
	We're not afraid to agree to disagree.
	And when we do have these conversations, it's not like...
	I remember Fox News.
	I stopped watching it because they would have people on and they would quite literally talk over each other.
	They would scream at each other.
	It was really horrendous to try to watch that.
	But when we have a debate on your shows, it's civil.
	We don't talk over each other.
	We allow each other to make our points and then we come in.
	So...
	There's something to be said about the civility that allows us to communicate the message properly.
	We are role models because, unfortunately, since the jab, people don't know how to communicate with other people that have a different point of view.
	Yeah.
	Crazy.
	And you learn when people give you a different point of view.
	That's how I got to where I'm at, because I didn't know any of this stuff.
	I was shocked when people were telling me it was the Jews, because I thought they were God's chosen people.
	But then somebody was like, oh yeah, they are God's chosen.
	Yeah, they were like, they are God's chosen people, but their God is Lucifer.
	And I was like, oh shoot, you're right, you know?
	And then you start realizing, okay.
	So yeah, I mean, it's like you learn.
	You live and you learn.
	If Trump attacks Iran, it's going to be a calamity of unmeasurable proportions.
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	I don't see him not attacking Iran.
	He's been a ball buster for...
	I mean, he took out Soleimani, the general.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	Soleimani was the guy...
	Soleimani was the general that was in Iraq and Syria who was killing the ISIS, you know?
	So they got rid of him, you know?
	So, yeah, I don't have a lot of faith in Donald Trump suddenly revoking his Israel-first stance.
	He's completely bought and sold and a whore for Israel.
	That's the bottom line.
	So, yeah, there's going to be Russia in Israel, which means Russia and China as well.
	I agree with Joaquin on that, Jim.
	I don't think it's a matter of if, but when.
	Because that was the role that Trump was selected and put in as commander-in-chief of the military.
	Biden was supposed to incense everybody.
	He was supposed to ruin everything to the point where both the Democrats and the Republicans would be begging for Trump to get in.
	And then as soon as Trump gets in, now he's going to have all his MAGA tarts and Q tarts believing, just like Bush did, to go after Iraq, which had nothing to do with September 11th.
	But now these people are going to be so happy because they're going to get lower gas prices and a couple of other things thrown at them.
	They have to throw steak to these wolves.
	And then they're going to all go in and say Iran are the enemies.
	And I can tell you, I'm talking to Iranians.
	These are good people.
	I'm talking to people from Iraq who are telling me, Victor, we're Christians.
	We had to leave because we were being attacked.
	And I'm talking to people from Syria who are also Christians, and they're saying that ISIS, which is the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, ISIS is Israel, and Al-Qaeda is CIA, which works for the Federal Reserve, which is...
	Israel, the central banks, again, it all goes back to the Jews.
	They want to kill the Christians.
	After they get rid of every single Christian, the Antichrist will come back.
	That's why they have to kill off the Christians, because the Antichrist will not come back to Earth until every single last Christian is gone.
	That is terribly important.
	They actually believe that, Victor Hugo?
	You've got to kill all the Christians.
	You could look it up and Trump went and paid homage at the grave in Brooklyn of the guy who said that to Benjamin.
	My talk was all about him, my goodness.
	Yeah, he said that to Benjamin Netanyahu when he was like, well, how come they're still Christians?
	And that's why, because people thought he was the new Messiah.
	But he says, no, I can't be the new Messiah.
	The new Messiah will return when there's not a single Christian left on earth.
	And so that's the thing.
	That's why they got to get rid of every last Christian.
	That's why these Zionist Christians are idiots.
	Great!
	That's just the point I was about to draw again.
	I mean, how can you have Christian Zionists?
	This is insane!
	Insane!
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	Yeah, I caught Nicholas Kallstrom's presentation on the conference all about basically...
	Yeah, all about how, you know, The Zionists from Israel, the Jewish Zionists, and the Christian Zionists are basing this all on a lie that the Mosque,
	the Temple, their whole plan, according to their Rigid mindset is they will...
	And the red heifer comes in, you know, where they do the ashes, the ritual.
	And they're going to get rid of that mosque.
	They're going to attack that mosque.
	And when they do that, you know, to try and get their third temple, you know...
	When they do that, I don't see any mercy by the Muslim world on Israel at that point.
	And I'm afraid that's coming too.
	The World War III. I'm with you.
	I'm with you.
	No prisoners.
	When that happens, the Muslim world is going to be so enraged, I think there's going to be a flood into Israel, and they're going to kill every one of them.
	Every one of them.
	Just like the Roman Empire in 70 A.D. with the Second Temple.
	You know, that got destroyed because the Romans came in there and crucified all of the Jews, basically, in Jerusalem.
	They razed Jerusalem down into rubble.
	So, yeah, you know, history just keeps repeating itself until humans finally learn.
	It's going to continue to repeat itself.
	And how many countries have Jews been kicked out of Victor Hugo?
	109 countries, over a thousand times, and it's going to keep happening because what's happening now, and you can verify this as well, the Jews know that the gig is up.
	I mean, quite literally, everybody that I'm talking to around here, not only the Orthodox Christians, but also the people from the Middle East, from Iran, from Iraq, from Syria, they're all saying that Israel's days are numbered.
	But just as happened in the past, what happens with these Jews is the moment that people start realizing and noticing, and that's what's happening.
	2024 was the year that the world noticed that it was the Jews.
	And so they have taken off to Romania.
	They have taken off to Ukraine.
	They've taken off to the United States.
	And so that's what they do.
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	Well, a call-in number, and we already have two callers here, 608-957-8727, 608-957-8727, 608-957-8727.
	Let's start with 513. Frank, is that you?
	No, it's Patrice in Ohio.
	Okay, go for it, Patrice.
	So, as I spoke to you last week, Where I think we all need to say we no longer acknowledge this government's false authority over us.
	We need to really put that to the test.
	And your caller yesterday talked about taxes.
	Yeah, I limit my taxes and I get on the LOBRO program with those jerks.
	And by the way, they'll accept any payment plan, so.
	Don't be intimidated by them.
	And as Hal Turner says, our government's a terrorist, and if you give money to a terrorist, you're a terrorist.
	So we've got to stop that.
	But I think the bottom line is, we keep talking about these people, and I know, Victor, you call them the Jews, because they have a higher master, which is Satan.
	And they really are evil.
	And they should be called the evilest.
	Because that is the superlative of evil.
	And it's a noun.
	It's also an adjective.
	And it's also a permissible word in Scrabble.
	So that's what they are.
	And then that way you bypass this whole anti-Semitic BS that they try to peck us with.
	I think the problem, Patrice, is if you use a word like that, nobody knows who you're really talking about.
	How about the most evil?
	How about the most evil?
	I don't think that'll work either.
	Would you like to respond?
	Yes.
	You sound like a very lovely person.
	It's the Jews.
	You're right.
	They're the evilest.
	They're the most evil, but it's the Jews.
	Real simple.
	Three letters, one word.
	Yeah, we can agree.
	We can agree.
	Joaquin, did you want to add a thought here?
	No.
	We have another caller, too, but we stand by.
	Errico816.
	Brian, would that be you?
	That's me.
	You know, when you talk about the liberty, I'm reminded I called you about this years ago, but I think then you didn't quite believe me, but it was probably, oh, I don't know, 10 years ago on the internet.
	I just punched in one day in the search engine, Lyndon Baines Johnson, traitor.
	And up came the Johnson tapes, okay?
	And you can still get those online, but some outfit in Israel now controls them, and they're not good anymore.
	There was one from June 7th, I believe it was 1967, where the Israeli ambassador showed into the Oval Office with Johnson and McNamara there, and he says to them, You've got a spy ship off our coast.
	We're going to sink it and we're going to kill everyone on board, he says to Johnson and McNamara.
	And they go, you can't do that.
	Are you crazy?
	What are you thinking?
	And so after their little spiel, he says, I want to remind you, we own your press.
	And then it got silent on the tape.
	You know, I listened to the tape.
	And then Johnson says, well, go ahead and do it.
	And that was one of the most impactful things I ever found on the internet.
	And when I tried to go back to it, it's missing.
	It's completely gone.
	So I know why.
	But anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there for Your other people that probably knew nothing about that tape.
	Yeah, that's great.
	That's a great find.
	I think we got for a way to, Paul, join the conversation.
	Yeah, might as well hit this topic again.
	So, you know, earlier on in the show, I sort of classify these things.
	I use the term struggle session, you know.
	A struggle session could occur on any number of topics, especially racism and then this topic about it's the Jews.
	But somebody says, not all the Jews, of course, and there's plenty of middle-class Jews, and they don't have any power, and what else can be said after this?
	But blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	This just goes on forever.
	That's why I call it a struggle session.
	And again, I'm just going to say that this not-all-observation...
	It's not an argument.
	It masquerades as an argument.
	It's just a simple fact.
	And, you know, you have to have an identifier.
	I mean, and here's the easy way to think about it, right?
	These people, okay, be they Jews or be they Satanists or the elite or, you know, however you want to classify it, they have obviously organized the power of the state for certain aims and purposes.
	And when you start to dig or, you know, drill down to see what are these aims and purposes and how are we being manipulated and what's really going on?
	Well, they haven't organized the power of the state and the banking system for the benefit of average everyday working white people, okay, or blacks for that matter.
	Or Japanese.
	As you've covered so well, Jim, our foreign policy is mainly to either protect or to benefit Israel.
	So there's the key, right?
	That's all you need to know.
	And historically, these people have always been regarded as racial aliens.
	And in the end, it comes down to race.
	That's why they want to mix us up.
	That's why they want to try to destroy our race as opposed to theirs.
	And that's it.
	And you can't You can't say, well, you know, who, which ones are against us, okay?
	Because obviously there's going to be very decent or nice people in every group, just like there's going to be some members of a group that are not as violent as others.
	But when we were fighting the Indian Wars on many fronts, and the Plains Indians, and especially the Comanche and the Apache, was brutal warfare.
	And so they would come into a town or a settlement or just an individual farm or a ranch, and they would raid it.
	They would often steal the livestock and the horses and or kill or kidnap the women and the little girls, and they would basically kill the men if they got a hold of them.
	And so what can you do about that?
	What they did is they organized, and they went out into the wilderness, into the hills, into the open, wherever you go to find them, and then they would just kill them on sight.
	That was essentially what the...
	The Indian warfare was about, and that's basically what all warfare has been about throughout history.
	So the fact of the matter is, if you're going to exclude a group from power, such as, okay, we can't have Jews in banking, or we can't have Jews in finance, government, we can't have them in education, we can't have them in publishing, we'd have to have all these rules.
	And of course, if you still have them remain in your society, then of course they're going to agitate for equal rights.
	This is the same pattern that's been repeated over and over and over again.
	That's why the Jervets wanted all the Jews out of Europe.
	That's why we have to separate.
	Same thing with the racial strife and the racial conflict.
	It's like, no, not all blacks, but what do we have to go on?
	And all we have to go on is the physical appearance.
	That's why the Jews push for this equality and for this tolerance, and that's why they celebrate diversity, because they don't want to be judged on appearance.
	And they've always been known by their appearance, just like we know blacks by their appearance.
	And we have to make judgments based on this, because we can't see inside of their heads for the intent.
	One more quick thing, and I'll stop my rant.
	This is why Martin Luther King's comment is utter bullshit.
	It should never have been really uttered, and it can't really be repeated as some kind of gospel, the content of a man's character.
	Well, guess what?
	Sometimes when you find out the content of their character, it's too late because you've already been carjacked or raped or robbed or burglarized or whatever it is.
	So this notion of the content of their character, you can't see that.
	You can only experience it.
	And that's what we've experienced.
	We've experienced it for 2,000 years.
	This is nothing new, right?
	People have written about the Jews for millennia, not just decades or centuries.
	Martin was an idealist and a moral leader, Paul.
	We're not going to fault him for a statement like that.
	Wait a sec.
	Wait a sec.
	I'm going to get Victor Hugo's response and then Joaquin.
	I want to go back to Brian's tape there because when the guy said, yeah, we control your media, He was being overtly threatening, and I think there were very interesting aspects of that.
	But first, what Paul had to say, Victor.
	From a completely just objective, I have to agree with Paul, because the thing is, I'm not looking at this emotionally.
	And what we're dealing is with people who don't see us as human.
	Remember, they see us as children of a lesser God.
	They see us as cattle.
	The way a farmer doesn't cry tears as he's leading the cattle to slaughter or the sheep to slaughter.
	Otherwise, the farmer would not be able to get his job done.
	Imagine that, like, all the cows going in, the farmers, they're busy weeping.
	The Jews don't weep when they're shooting children and...
	Women.
	As a matter of fact, their policy is to shoot the women before they have children.
	They want to kill women because the women are the enemy because they're the ones that produce the children.
	So this is the kind of psychology that we're dealing with.
	And again, because I was trained to be a killer in the military, I have to put aside that objectivity.
	And so I say, okay, well, you know, I see where the Jews are coming from.
	And so that's my enemy.
	So like Paul says, yeah, Judge a man on his character, but again, look what the Jews are doing right now, how they took over Syria, how they're taking over the Middle East.
	They have generational infiltration.
	They go in, they marry the Muslim women, they have children with the Muslim women, they live their whole lives as spies.
	So that then they can take over.
	Again, they're like parasites.
	I always refer people to the movie The Thing by John Carpenter.
	It's a great example.
	They have to line everybody up and some people are idealistic.
	They're like, I don't want to have to have my blood taken to test to see if I'm one of these monsters or not.
	But that's the only way you could find out.
	So, yeah, Paul is right.
	That was the example I gave earlier.
	If you see black people across the street and you're a white guy and you're like, okay, well, it's not all black people, then you walk there, they kick your ass, they steal your wallet, they leave you there for dead, and you're like, oh, well, at least I'm not racist, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Joaquin, you may want to comment.
	I know we want to talk about the drones.
	It appears that a New Jersey mayor has confirmed they're looking for that radioactive material that went missing from a boxcar that showed up in New Jersey.
	So these are radioactive, sniffling drones.
	You're welcome to comment on that, too.
	Your choice.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I think the way to judge people is by their actions.
	I mean, you can read further in and it's all subjective and conjecture.
	But as far as actions, that basically speaks much louder than anything else.
	So, you know, and there are a lot of Jews in the power structure that are doing a lot of evil.
	Definitely.
	So, regarding the incident or this phenomenon of the drones, you know, I see it as a psyops.
	Yeah, there might be some radioactive material that they're looking for.
	They also have people from supposedly the inside saying, oh no, it's not that.
	There was just a company There's a military outfit in New Jersey, and then there are the drone operators in New Jersey, I think a company called Robotics or something.
	There's all these different messages and they're all conflicting.
	To me, it's one big psyops, basically, so we do not pay attention to basically World War III coming around the corner.
	You know, they do all this.
	It's all the time.
	They do subterfuge and And diversion all the time, theatrics.
	And I see it as one big sigh-out.
	And they're also, I believe, you know, that Project Bluebeam that was promoted, and then, you know, Werner Von Braun on his deathbed saying, yeah, they're going to stage this fake invasion, alien invasion.
	You know, I do believe that they're going to bring that out at some point.
	And you notice the coverage of ETs and extraterrestrial and UFOs.
	They used to always say, no, it doesn't exist.
	It doesn't exist.
	Shut up.
	But now they're promoting it.
	So I also see it as a psyops leading to that eventually.
	So, yeah.
	An ET invasion?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I think it's going to be fake.
	Now, that isn't to say there are ETs.
	I believe that there are.
	I think there's a lot of evidence that indicates that.
	And like almost everything, there's good and bad within the group.
	I think there are civilizations out there that have advanced technology that are...
	Evil.
	And then there are civilizations out there, probably even more, that have the technology and are very much spiritually advanced compared to a slowly human.
	So, you know, I think it's a mixed bag, like with almost everything, just like with the Jews.
	Okay, there's the power structure, but anyway, go ahead.
	Victor, your comments, then we'll come back to Paul and Brian.
	Victor.
	Well, what Joaquim said reminded me of that movie, Invaders from Mars, where the one guy sees a cute-looking Martian and he goes up to it and he's like, oh, how cute, you know?
	And then the Martian just, like, shoots him and disintegrates him.
	So, like Paul said, sometimes it's a little bit difficult to judge them by their actions or by their character, because the thing is, by the time you figure it out, you're dead.
	So we're walking on a real slippery slope.
	We have to start getting into survival mode because we are in World War III already.
	And this isn't a normal kinetic war.
	It's a PSYOP war.
	They're using everything.
	They're using mental warfare.
	They're using 5G. They're using propaganda with the Smith-Munt Act and everything.
	They're using famine.
	They're using financial warfare because people are impoverished right now.
	So this is unlike anything that I've ever experienced in my lifetime.
	So we have to be on guard.
	And right now is not the time to let your guard down.
	So again, if you've ever seen this movie, Invaders from Mars, the Martian looks really cute, but it'll kill you.
	And you have like a split second.
	And it's a shame.
	It's a shame because you don't want to have to judge people.
	But we are in a time where, yeah, we need to start judging people.
	Paul, who are you?
	Paul.
	Yeah, so perhaps you're not the only one who had to be able to perceive me.
	He's muted.
	...to us, okay, telling us that these poisons they're going to inject us with will prevent disease.
	And on and on and on, okay?
	We've already been able to judge them by their actions.
	Judging somebody by their actions, you're not keeping up with the conversation to even say something like that.
	It's already been done, okay?
	And I made the point quite clearly, you know what?
	Let's separate.
	So that way we can judge it.
	Judging somebody by their actions is more like a statement for your personal life, okay?
	We shouldn't be together.
	You know, they're Africans don't belong in some German village any more than Germans belong in some African village.
	There's a natural, you know, geographical and biological reason for separation.
	And this, back in, you know, the day, in primitive times, you show your face in the wrong part of the, you know, wherever, the wrong part of the tundra, okay, the wrong part of the forest, the wrong part of the desert, you're dead, okay?
	And that's neither good or bad.
	That's the natural world.
	You can observe it with wildlife as well.
	Okay?
	There's something known as territory.
	So that's why we have to separate.
	So that way we can only judge other white people by their actions.
	Not Jews and not blacks.
	Okay?
	Everybody knows that one black or two blacks in the neighborhood is probably not a problem.
	Okay?
	But once you start having 30, 40, 50, 100 blacks in the neighborhood, you're going to want to move!
	Okay?
	All right.
	So, Jim, I noticed you're coughing.
	Yeah, I just swallowed wrong, Paul, just before I called on you.
	Brian, go ahead.
	Your thoughts.
	Brian.
	Well, it drives me nuts when people start talking about, oh, you're racially prejudiced here.
	I don't think I'm prejudiced.
	When you're racial prejudiced It comes from your divine.
	It comes from your divine spirit, okay?
	Being prejudiced is normal, all right?
	It doesn't mean you dislike or hate black people or Chinese, whatever.
	All you're doing is protecting your DNA, okay?
	You don't want it polluted.
	And a case in point is myself, okay?
	My third eye works.
	My telepathy works.
	I'm blonde hair, blue-eyed, Rh negative blood, and that's where I get that.
	Well, they don't want that.
	They don't want people to see what's going on.
	So when they go ahead and have all these interracial marriages and whatnot, it dilutes your DNA and you no longer have your abilities to discern who they are as you grow up.
	So that's why they're doing it.
	So to be racially prejudiced That's actually good.
	And it has nothing to do with whether you love black people or not.
	You actually should be that way because then you're helping protect them too.
	Because if they're out with white people, it ruins the black DNA. Okay?
	You want your DNA pure.
	Good stuff.
	I'm just going to joke and say nobody likes black people, not even blacks.
	You can hear them freely talking about it.
	And when they get money, they move out of the black neighborhood.
	This is a consistent pattern.
	Many, many blacks, not just one or two, many, many blacks online have observed this.
	As soon as blacks get the mobility, they leave.
	They don't want to be around other blacks.
	Blacks don't have any natural allies.
	By the way, Paul, there you go.
	Paul and Brian, you're probably not going to want to hear this.
	Hang on, Brian.
	Brian, hang on.
	Go ahead, Victor.
	I was saying, Paul and Brian, you're probably not going to want to hear this, but listening to both of you speak, you actually both sound like Jews, because the Jews agree with everything that you guys said.
	You do realize that, right?
	Because the Jews don't like to intermix, and the Jews don't like blacks, and the Jews don't want to mix with anybody.
	So you guys, are you guys Jews?
	Listen, listen, listen.
	We've kind of beaten up on the Jews enough.
	I want to go back to the point about the drones as a PSYOP. This is to distract from emerging World War III and Syria and Ukraine, Joaquin, is that the idea?
	I'm sure of that, yeah.
	I don't think we're far from it.
	And you mentioned at the outset that you think something's going to happen even prior to Trump's inauguration.
	He's coming up now in less than a month.
	Right.
	20th of January.
	Yeah, 20th of January.
	We're going to be in a world war before the 20th of January, I guarantee.
	No, we're not.
	I'll bet you my...
	I basically am reserved on that.
	I don't know.
	They're going to do something big, I know that, and they do false flags all the time.
	So they're going to blame...
	Iran or Russia, you know, something's going to happen.
	And it could well be prior, but it could be after January 20th as well.
	I see this as a Patriot Act 2.0 with the drones, that they're using this to create legislation that will prohibit the average citizen from using drones to find out what kind of government crimes are happening, like what happened in North Carolina with Hurricane Helene and the land grab over there, and also in Lahaina, Hawaii, where you're not allowed to fly drones over that area where directed energy weapons were used to do a land grab over there.
	So I think it's the government's way of instilling enough fear in the public that they'll say, well, okay, we're going to have these laws and we'll be the only ones able to fly these drones and you won't.
	So it's just more rights being taken away from the average citizen.
	That's how I see this working.
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Jim.
	I was just going to say, I'd certainly prefer Paul be right about there not being World War before 20 January.
	It's just how I see what's coming.
	That's my take on it.
	Regarding what you just said, Victor, they do the problem-reaction solution all the time.
	And you mentioned the Patriot Act.
	And yeah, it looks like they're going to come in and say, we must protect you!
	And therefore, they're going to restrict all drone usage from private citizens.
	They're going to impose more tyrannical kind of...
	You know, control over the population.
	That's where it's all headed.
	Totally.
	I think Paul is right as far as no war, because Paul is a big fan of Trump, and Trump's going to fix everything.
	Trump's going to make America great again.
	Right, Paul?
	I love the way Victor always interjects humor as well.
	Yeah, he's a master of satire, parody, sarcasm.
	I don't have any information other than all the information I've always had when I make predictions to you, Jim, like, for example, about football games.
	I think that the likelihood of any kind of so-called world war before or even during the Trump presidency It's about the same as it's always been, which is little to none, in my opinion, because that's not what they're going to do anymore.
	They have different ways of operating these worldwide systems.
	And you can see the way that they're making war on the natural world with their biological meteorological operations all the time.
	I mean, out here in California, it's ongoing almost daily.
	You can see it.
	It looks like a smog or a haze and it settles down.
	So whatever is being put up above comes down.
	To me, who knows, everybody I know so far that I've talked to in the last few months is not feeling that well, low on energy, various things, including sometimes persistent upper respiratory stuff.
	I've been coughing up stuff for the better part of a year on a regular basis.
	It just keeps coming.
	We would have to know, we would have to have almost weekly testing To know exactly what it is we're being sprayed with, because it's so consistent for all these decades.
	People have done, you know, measurements in the past of the various constituents of whatever it is.
	But, you know, they could vary it all the time.
	And we know who's doing that, too.
	In other words, who's behind all the destabilization of everything?
	Thanks, Paul.
	Thanks, Paul.
	I just want to squeeze one observation by way of conclusion.
	I think Ukraine's a done deal.
	Russia's just going to beat the hell out of Ukraine.
	That's not going to be precipitating the world war, in my opinion.
	It's going to be in the Middle East, and it's going to be an attack on Iran.
	And how Iran handles itself is going to make a huge difference for the future, not just of the Middle East, but humanity.
	Joaquin, would you be inclined to agree with that?
	Yeah, I do, actually.
	I think that Trump's looking to get out from Ukraine, but yeah, he's gangbusters against Iran, so that's where it's going.
	Paul, one quick question.
	Yeah, before we leave, Paul, I understand that what they're spraying in the skies is starting to make the frogs gay.
	Are you starting to feel a little bit more feminine?
	No, actually.
	You're talking about estrogen.
	I think it's in the water.
	I think it's in the water, Victor Hugo.
	I don't think they're spraying it.
	Stay away from the water.
	Drink whiskey, Paul.
	Please.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Brian, a final thought squeeze in edgewise?
	I was wondering why my wrist was getting limp.
	Love it.
	Well, I've got to be astonished we're not already at the end.
	We should be, actually, the time.
	Let me just add, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
	And support Revolution Radio.
	Gentlemen, I thank you.

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