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The Raw Deal (8 November 2024) with co-host John Carman and special guest, Leila Paul

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	Not just anybody Help!
	You know I need someone Help!
	When I was younger, so much younger than today, I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
	But now I find the gem mine, I've opened up the doors.
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	And I do appreciate you being round.
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	Won't you please, please help me?
	Welcome to The Raw Deal right here on Revolution Radio Studio B Live this 8 a.m.
	November 2024.
	I'm Jim Fetzer, your host, joined by John Carman, my co-host, and our special featured guest today, Layla Paul from Canada, who is an expert on the history of Palestine, born in Bethlehem.
	Much of our discussion today is going to be devoted to what we may expect for Donald Trump's foreign policy.
	I want to begin with some remarks by Vladimir Putin regarding Trump.
	Rather interesting, when he speaks of him, we haven't heard prior Here you go.
	I take this opportunity to congratulate Donald Trump on his election.
	To the post of the president of the United States of America.
	Indeed, this is going to be like this in practice.
	Any head of state, you know, you can think of him whatever you want, because everyone initially in his first iteration of president said he was mainly a businessman.
	And he understood very little about politics and could make mistakes.
	But first of all, I can tell you his behavior at the moment of the attempt on his life impressed me.
	He turned out to be a courageous man.
	And it's not just about raising his hand and calling for the fight, for their common ideals.
	It's not just about that.
	Though, of course, you know, it was done in the heat of the moment.
	A person shows himself in extraordinary circumstances.
	He showed himself, in my opinion, to be a very courageous man.
	Meanwhile, Moon of Alabama reflects on what's going to be Trump's policy regarding Ukraine.
	How will he handle the war in Ukraine?
	I doubt he'll be able to close down in 24 hours as he promised.
	I rather think he'll escalate it.
	As I said two weeks ago, I expect the new president to double down on the anti-Russian project in Ukraine.
	Frankly, that is not my opinion.
	A new Wall Street Journal piece on Trump's promise does not give me any reason to believe otherwise.
	Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine, now he must decide how.
	Foreign policy advisors close to the President will acquit for different versions of a plan to effectively freeze the front line.
	Why can't Trump first term again Wall Street Journal?
	Different factions are set to compete to influence the Republican foreign policy, more traditional-minded allies, such as Mike Pompeo, whom I hope very much is not a part of the new administration, former Secretary of State, now in contention to lead the Pentagon.
	Bad, bad, bad idea.
	Are likely to push for a settlement that doesn't give a major win to Moscow.
	Other advisors, particularly Richard Grinnell, a top candidate to lead the State Department, or serve as national security advisor, could give priority to Trump's desire to end the war as soon as possible, even if it means forcing Kiev into significant concessions.
	What are the ways to do that?
	One idea, proposed inside the transition office, detailed by three persons close to the president-elect and not previously reported, would involve Kiev promising not to join NATO for at least 20 years.
	In exchange, the U.S. would continue to pump Ukraine full of weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
	I think that's a bad idea.
	In fact, he even says the idea is laughable for several reasons.
	It does not take Russia's position into account.
	To continue to arm Ukraine while keeping a ceasefire is an obvious delaying tactic.
	Nothing that'll solve the conflict.
	Russia will only agree to something that concludes the war for good.
	The assumption that Russia would condone European NATO forces on the ground in Ukraine is also delusional.
	The only real way to stop the war for the U.S., writes Moon of Alabama, is to drop all support for Ukraine.
	Europeans would bicker about that, but, if only for budget reasons, it would likely follow through.
	It would then be up to Ukraine having lost all support to make nice with Russia.
	Trump will likely select neoconservative hawks, I hope not, to run his defense and foreign policies.
	They will take all possible measures, even against Trump's declared will, to keep the war going.
	For them, it's down to the last Ukrainian, then down to the last European, if only to show that the U.S. will never give up.
	To cover for this, Trump and his acolytes may well offer an immediate ceasefire, but that will not work.
	I'm troubled by that discussion.
	We have uniformed Ukrainian army soldiers saying Trump will never be president again.
	This was, of course, in advance of the election, even burning him in effigy.
	John, do you have thoughts about these preliminary discussions?
	I think Trump just has to cut off all support for Ukraine.
	My take.
	John, are you there?
	Ah.
	ah Layla, give us your thoughts.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Well, I only think...
	Okay, John.
	No, go ahead.
	Which of us?
	Go ahead.
	We'll catch up with John.
	I think Ukraine will come to an end very quickly, unless Trump needs a distraction so that he can implement other plans in the Palestinian area.
	However, I don't think there's enough money or material or personnel for Trump to cover both areas.
	So Ukraine will be brought to an end very quickly.
	The question is how?
	And that's to be worked out between Trump and his advisers and Putin and his advisers, and hopefully in the interests of everyone concerned.
	So I think, first of all, that Putin's comments are very diplomatic and were wise.
	And I do think that he will agree to a very speedy end to the Ukraine debacle.
	And I think, again, because of the lack of personnel, materiel and funds, that Ukraine will be brought to an end.
	And my sympathies go out to all the Ukrainians who suffered on this grotesque misadventure by a few self-interested parties who were, ironically, Zionists, just like those who have created the problem in Palestine.
	Now over to you.
	Leila, just add a few thoughts.
	I believe there were multiple agendas at work here.
	I do believe the Europeans and the U.S. grossly underestimated Russia's ability to defend itself.
	The ultimate objective was to take control of all of Russia, to break it up into little statelets, and to exploit its natural resources where Putin, inadvisably in my opinion, had stated that the Russian natural resources were valued in excess of 80 trillion dollars Well, the bankers, the financiers, BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, all want to loot all those resources.
	But then in addition, there was the idea of creating the new Israel in Ukraine.
	Because most of the modern-day residents of Israel or Kazarians or Ashkenazi Jews are not ethnically related to the tribe of Judah.
	They have no Hebrew blood.
	We've discussed this many times.
	To create a new haven for a new Israel, having worn out its welcome in the Middle East, I believe that those two motives were what primarily drove this issue.
	And even though they used the Minsk Accord, As a fig leaf to cover up the massive armament of Ukraine, Russia has proven to be far more resourceful and capable of defending itself and is now, in my opinion, the most formidable military force in the world today.
	And as a consequence, their plan has failed.
	Yes.
	Jim, I don't think Ukraine was supposed to be instead of Palestine.
	It was supposed to be along with Palestine and everything in between, from Palestine to Azerbaijan and over to Ukraine and the Crimea.
	It was going to be an extension.
	And if you would find the 2019 news conference after that comedian who was fabricated into a A president with his TV series that was on Netflix, Serving the People or Servant of the People, where Zelensky was playing a president who somehow ironically became elected president of Ukraine.
	It was all part of fabricating the way that they put him into place.
	If you look At the news conference between Netanyahu and Zelensky in 2019, you will see the wink-wink and how Netanyahu says, this is our homeland.
	This is where my father was working for Zaev, really Vladimir, another Vladimir, Zaev Jabotinsky, the man of the Iron Wall, who said, we must take Palestine and we will have to kill them because They will resist our taking over their territory and their property and their ancestry.
	So it was not instead of, it was going to be part of the extension, along with Lebanon, Syria, and Iran.
	He was so deluded.
	Netanyahu was so deluded, and Zelensky is so stupid.
	He's not even a decent comedian.
	And the poor Ukrainian people got sucked in.
	That's my opinion, and it's basically...
	It's based on a lot of analysis and listening to other experts.
	And, of course, you're talking about the Greater Israel Project, which takes a big chunk of Egypt, most of Saudi Arabia and of Syria, all of Lebanon, all of Jordan, even parts of Iraq.
	So you have, of course, the two blue lines on the Israeli flag from the Tigris-Euphrates to the Nile.
	And in addition, they were going to have Ukraine as an expansion of the Israeli Empire.
	That is your take, Leila.
	To them it was a reclamation because Netanyahu said, this was our other homeland from 3,000 years ago.
	Basically, according to Netanyahu, the whole world is their homeland, he and his gang.
	Everything that they set their eyeballs on that has any value to them is their ancient homeland, their ancient property that must be reclaimed.
	Forgive my sarcasm.
	I'm just so fed up.
	After a year of agony of watching the torture, the sadistic actions while the world stood by and said, oh, you shouldn't do that.
	That's not nice.
	And we must go complain in the U.N. The only ones who had the guts to To act like men were the people of South Africa.
	I just want you to take a deep breath.
	We have two hours here, and the intensity makes it difficult to hear everything you're saying.
	I so value every word you have to say.
	John, I don't know where you've been, buddy.
	Yeah, I had an interruption, so I couldn't answer the question.
	Mike real quick, so I'm dealing with other issues going on.
	No, I'm listening very carefully to what you guys are saying.
	I'm also watching what's going on.
	And where are all the trillions of dollars going?
	Because it's all a big operation by the deep state.
	People need to understand this is what they do.
	It has nothing to do with politics.
	Vladimir Zelensky, aka Jewish, Askenazi Jew that he is, is an actor.
	That's what they call him.
	Even the guy that was at the Butler PA assassination thing, Yurik, is being identified as somebody else.
	They gave them a code word.
	Actor.
	That's what they got.
	These people are all actors in the big scheme of things.
	And I keep wondering, why are they doing all this stuff?
	They're lying to us.
	They're stealing our money.
	The tax slaves of the United States and other countries are tax slaves.
	Why don't they look a little bit further to the east towards Iran?
	Oh, no.
	They can only look at other areas.
	They can't touch Iran.
	Don't look at Iran.
	Afghanistan.
	He pulls out.
	Biden.
	$85 billion or whatever left behind.
	But don't look at Iran.
	You see what I mean?
	That's Obama's pet peeve.
	That's Obama's little project.
	That's been going on for a lot longer than even Obama when they were smuggling weapons-grade plutonium to Iran.
	So people are still being disguised and lied to and lied to.
	And even Bibi took a billion dollars, allegedly.
	I don't know if Layla knows about it or not, or you, Jim.
	But that was to hold off on retaliating against Iran.
	And what they did was called them up.
	Allegedly, BB called them up and said, hey, we're going to be in the neighborhood in the next hour.
	We're going to bomb a couple of places over there, military targets.
	And we'll even fax you the locations.
	Just expect us to be over there.
	They go in, they come out, less than a couple hours.
	That's it.
	That's retaliation for the bombing in Israel.
	What a bunch of BS. We're so being lied to, they think everybody's stupid.
	You see what I mean?
	It doesn't measure.
	Go ahead.
	May I ask a question?
	When is this supposed to have occurred?
	You say that it was a form of extortion, that Netanyahu said we're going to bomb you unless you give us a million bucks.
	When was this?
	No, no, no.
	Biden paid Netanyahu not to do retaliation until after the election.
	That's the story.
	When Bibi supposedly did the retaliation, that's when they notified the Ayatollah or whoever's Ayatollah this week and gave them heads up.
	That's all BS. It doesn't make sense.
	You don't tell your enemy, oh, we're going to be in the neighborhood.
	We're going to do it.
	Now, going back to Syria, Trump gave a phone call to Putin, and Putin got a phone call saying, oh, yeah, we're going to be in the area.
	We're going to bomb that airport in Syria.
	Get your guys out, you got about an hour, whatever the time frame was.
	Putin said thank you.
	When was this?
	This was when Trump was in office.
	Oh, the previous term, okay.
	Yeah, Trump.
	Okay, so go back then.
	The relationship with Putin, I expected exactly what I just said and what you guys pulled up on the news thing.
	That's what I expect.
	My analysis of Putin is exactly right, like a lot of things are usually correct all the time, and it's scary because I see what's going on behind the scenes, but everybody's being lied to, and then they falter and they bend over and give in to it because they're a bunch of tax slaves.
	Everybody is wimping out They don't know how to control their leadership, and we just showed it on a landslide thing.
	Okay, that's good, but I'm still watching for other indicators all of the time.
	They don't want to know what I know because as soon as I see the indicator, it pops up.
	It's like Biden is talking about Hunter Biden getting a pardon before he leaves office.
	How much do you want to bet he gets a pardon before he leaves office?
	Anybody?
	Well, of course he will, but I'm afraid we're getting a little off track, do you think, Jim?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	We'll return.
	I think we're getting a bit scattered here.
	Yes, we'll return.
	We'll return.
	Can we stay with our expectations for the coming term of Trump and what we can expect of him in the future?
	Let's put the past aside.
	Where's the money?
	That's what I was going to say.
	Where's the money going to come from?
	Well, I already said that.
	There is no money to do both Ukraine and Palestine.
	That's what I'm saying.
	He has to end the war in Ukraine.
	John, don't talk over Layla.
	No, no, I had a question.
	I didn't finish making my statement.
	Go ahead.
	All right.
	First of all, can we just ask, well, we've heard criticism of Trump from Charles, Ambassador Charles Freeman.
	Jim, it was the one that I brought to your attention.
	I have it right here, Leila.
	Let's listen to it here.
	Are you tired?
	Speak about it while I set it up.
	Go right ahead.
	Tell us what we're gonna hear.
	Yeah, we're going to hear Charles Freeman, Ambassador Freeman, a very reasonable sounding man.
	I think his assessments are very logical.
	However, I'm more inclined to remember That we had no other choice.
	It was either Kamala Harris and Biden or his leftovers or Blinken really pulling the strings in DC, which are being dictated really by Netanyahu in Tel Aviv.
	So we had that choice or Trump.
	Now will Trump's strings be pulled?
	Maybe, maybe not.
	I think Trump is a strong man.
	He'll be pulled to the extent that he has to be.
	He is still the best option.
	There is no point lamenting the results of the election.
	Go ahead, Jim.
	Layla, we got Judge Napolitano with ambassador for the election.
	It's not your field.
	But with respect to American foreign policy, with respect, Ambassador, to longstanding American foreign policy, With respect to American foreign policy toward Israel, does it really matter who's president of the United States?
	Well, I think it does.
	Actually, I think Donald Trump rode a wave of dissatisfaction with the present and the apparent future.
	This was a referendum on the Biden administration, and the Biden administration lost.
	Kamala Harris Lost because she offered no vision of the future other than more of the same.
	That was certainly true on foreign policy, with the exception of Ukraine.
	And I note that one of the immediate international reactions to the Trump victory, which just doesn't really surprise me, I think, you know, if you ask ordinary people in this country whether they believe the Biden position that the economy was doing wonderfully, They would have referred to inflation and the difficulty they were having buying food, fuel, housing, other necessities.
	That is there.
	But anyway, immediate reaction internationally included collapse of the German government coalition.
	Why?
	Because Olaf Scholz, the chancellor, saw that Germany needed to Edge against both a Trump-initiated trade war and the possible abandonment of Germany and Ukraine by the Trump administration.
	And he could not get agreement within his coalition.
	And I think actually the international effects of this will be quite far-reaching.
	Did the government collapse?
	I knew he fired his Finance minister and the finance minister was from another party and that party was part of the governing coalition.
	Did that party leave the coalition and did he lose his majority?
	He's lost his majority.
	There will be an election in March.
	He's governing as a chancellor with his coalition, having basically disintegrated.
	And your analysis says he brought this on himself.
	Well, it's a combination of many things which we've had something to do with.
	Blowing up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, deprived Germany of its cheap energy supplies, made it uncompetitive in many industrial areas, and advanced the deindustrialization of the German economy.
	Are there German politicians who are pointing at Scholz and Joe Biden Joe Biden for attacking a NATO ally and Schultz for looking the other way and denying that it happened?
	Not many.
	There's been a cleave to the United States attitude in Germany, which I think is in the process of shifting.
	More importantly, I suppose, is more important, perhaps, is the reaction of Zelensky and the Ukrainians.
	Trump, as recently as his victory statement, promised that he would almost instantly end the war in Ukraine without explaining how he was going to do it.
	It's possible, in fact, that he'll do the opposite.
	This reminds me of him claiming that he would build a wall at the Texas-Mexico border and Mexico would pay for it.
	Right.
	I had a great comment about that from a Chinese colleague in Mexico City after I decided Robert Frost's thoughts on walls, he stood up and he said, well, we Chinese are pretty good at building walls, and we know something about that.
	But I have to say, Trump is absolutely brilliant.
	It never occurred to us to ask the Huns to pay for the wall that we built.
	Take a look at this clip, Ambassador, and see if the Germans regret it.
	If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2.
	We will bring an end to it.
	How will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control?
	We will, I promise you, we'll be able to do it.
	Big Pharma hates when you do this, but they can't do a damn thing about it.
	These shoes help relieve back pain.
	Meanwhile, we'll keep going.
	Standing next to him when he said that.
	Chancellor Schultz.
	Yeah.
	And it's very clear that the secretive...
	The meeting between Schultz and Biden after the sabotage of the pipeline was collusive.
	There was nobody in the room during the meeting, no record of it, no press statement.
	I don't think there's any real doubt about who did that, although there's been a lot of effort suggesting that we didn't.
	I don't think anybody really believes that.
	Ambassador, as we speak, Donald Trump and his former campaign staff, now soon-to-be White House staff, are going about the business of populating the government.
	Will a Trump State Department be filled with Zionists?
	Much as the core State Department is and much as the Biden leadership of the State Department is.
	Yes, that is what is going to happen, I think, and the names that are being mentioned, we have not heard for quite a while.
	Thank you.
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	So here we have Judge Napolitano asking Ambassador Freeman, is the Trump administration going to be loaded with Zionists And Freeman is saying, yes, it is.
	We're hearing names we haven't heard for some time.
	Let us continue.
	...as much as the Biden leadership of the State Department is.
	Yes, that is what is going to happen, I think.
	And the names that are being mentioned Our names we have not heard for quite a while, but they're in that neoconservative, don't negotiate, don't talk, don't use diplomacy, use maximum pressure camp.
	So what change can we expect in American foreign policy?
	I think you're going to have a one-word answer for this, but you'll speak as you see fit.
	What change in American foreign policy toward Israel can we expect from a Trump administration?
	Well, I think Israel has Trump's number.
	He is essentially a prisoner of the Israel lobby.
	The last time he was in office, he sold the move of the capital of Jerusalem to a campaign donor.
	For the same reason, he recognized The Golan Heights, having been annexed by Israel, he had nothing at all for the peace process.
	It didn't occur during his time in office.
	I think you can expect him to be even more Zionist than Joe Biden has been.
	I guess he learned his lesson about selling his soul to the devil.
	I mean, he has a hundred million dollar debt to a Miriam Adelson.
	Exactly.
	But I think the international consequences of this need to be considered.
	I mean, we have already seen ourselves isolated and reviled internationally for our support of genocide in Palestine, our collusion in the attack on Lebanon, and I know that there are only two governments that Have not turned their back on these adventures by the Israelis.
	That is the United States and the UK. And the UK is wobbling.
	We're completely isolated on this.
	The Trump administration, if it perpetuates the pro-Zionist policies of the past, will finish the job.
	Very...
	Very troubling, Leila, your thoughts.
	You've listened to the entire interview.
	I don't like any of that, but it's not surprising.
	I have a lot of respect for Ambassador Freeman.
	I think his assessments are very good.
	However, I am still optimistic that theoretically it is nepotism For Trump to bring in his two sons, unelected sons, as part of his administration.
	Normally, nepotism is frowned upon with great disdain.
	However, Trump needs people that he can trust.
	On that basis, I think I do not disapprove too strongly of his bringing in his two sons, because I believe It's possible they will be seeking a term following their father.
	We could see another Trump administration, one of his sons, or both of his sons, one after the other.
	So they are going to be thinking long term.
	Trump, this being his, I don't know, in the U.S. Constitution, does this count as a second consecutive term where he's not allowed to run a third time?
	Because then it will depend on one of his sons, the Trump name.
	So they will have a definite interest in being re-electable.
	And I think even though they have benefited from his father's access to Zionist money and Zionist manipulation, perhaps they are not so deeply mired in that quicksand.
	So I'm hoping it will be, because I think at the time Ambassador Freeman was speaking, it was not yet announced that Donald Jr.
	and Eric Trump would be coming into his administration.
	I do think that's a positive thing.
	However, I'm not at all surprised because we know that Donald Trump, he is not a man of great intellectual depth.
	Let's face it.
	His business enterprise was handed to him by his father and all of the Jews of New York made him their project because if they could build him up, he could then be used.
	And at the time he was very attractive as a young man and he would have been a good candidate to develop, to nurture as a future presidential puppet.
	Now he ended up in his older years being not so attractive, although recently he's obviously undergone some cosmetic work and he looks better and his hair is not orange anymore.
	So I'm not so pessimistic as I would have been.
	Again, despite the size of the U.S., What were the options?
	He is still, I hate to use that overworn phrase, he was still the lesser evil.
	And I do think the hopes for the future of a Trump dynasty will cause them to give pause.
	And I do think that Trump is going to be fed up.
	He might be fed up with Netanyahu.
	Remember, Netanyahu dictated to Biden So his closeness with Biden is not going to endear him further to Trump, although the very first phone call that Trump took after the election was at 2 o'clock in the morning from Netanyahu.
	But Trump is no fool.
	He knows that he's being suckered in.
	And yes, he's indebted to Miriam Adelson.
	Maybe he'll pay her off.
	Maybe he won't.
	We'll see.
	Maybe how you'll handle it.
	We have yet to see.
	I'm willing to give him at least a small benefit of the doubt.
	And we have to.
	We had no other choice.
	So I'd like your reaction, Jim.
	Layla, no, I tend to agree with everything you've just said.
	I've heard the rumor that he's returned the $100 million back to Miriam Maddelson, but I cannot confirm it.
	John, your thoughts?
	That's a couple of rumors, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	John, your thoughts?
	Yeah, I'm just evaluating all this stuff.
	I mean, I worked at the White House.
	I protected these ambassadors, heads of state.
	Anwar Sadat, Menachem Begin in particular, and they turned around and assassinated Anwar Sadat back in 81, which is where a lot of stuff was going on.
	But I look at these ambassadors with a different view.
	Who assassinated Anwar Sadat?
	Who is it you're saying assassinated him?
	I didn't say who.
	I said Anwar Sadat was assassinated when he went back to Egypt.
	By his own army.
	Yeah, I wasn't arguing that.
	You're just asking a question, and I'm answering your question.
	It sounded like you were suggesting that the Zionists might have had something to do with it.
	No, if I want to suggest it, I'll say it flat out, Layla.
	All right.
	That's speculation, so let me finish.
	So I've protected these people up close and personal.
	I look at things a lot differently than all the other people that weren't Secret Service, didn't do presidential protection, ambassadors, heads of state, because these people follow their orders from their head of state.
	So it doesn't matter what they say this week.
	They could turn right around and get a phone call and say, okay, now we're going to be friendly to another country and take money and back and forth.
	And I keep going back to Iran.
	They don't want us to focus on Iran, no matter what the military-industrial complex has been doing behind the scenes, and they keep doing it.
	So it's like, well, my attitude's changed about Bibi over the years now, especially recently, because it sounds like they were doing this for years, and they knew about the tunnels.
	I asked years ago, why don't they just do away with the tunnels, go after the bad guys and the Hamas, whoever it is this week, And just be done with it and go after the terrorists.
	They know, the Mossad usually knows where these guys are and when to take them out.
	They're trying to do it with less civilian casualties, and I get that.
	But I don't see them doing it in a very prompt way.
	So they're doing all these deals behind the scenes.
	Beebe goes to the White House, meets with Biden, shakes his hand, and does that.
	And as soon as he's out, he'll be right back again.
	But I was going to bring up a question about, are you guys aware that Kushner...
	He was married to a Trump.
	He got millions of dollars.
	Of course we are.
	He got millions of dollars, correct?
	Well, his father was very rich as well with questionable money, but I thought we were reacting to Ambassador Freeman's comments.
	And he is no longer an ambassador.
	Yeah, I wasn't impressed with him.
	He has nothing to gain by giving an opinion that is based on his own well-informed opinion.
	It's not like he's going to turn around and say something else next week, unless events change in the following weeks.
	Well, that's the whole point.
	They do change.
	Shall we move on, Jim?
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's fine, John.
	We also, Judge Napolitano had an interview with Colonel William Wilkerson.
	Let's listen to a bit of this, Lawrence Wilkerson.
	Larry Wilkerson, yes.
	Right, Larry Wilkerson.
	2024, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson joins us now.
	Colonel, always a pleasure, my dear friend.
	Thank you for accommodating our schedule.
	I want to talk to you at some length about Israel in turmoil, but before we do, let me get to the heart of another issue which has been on my mind and probably is on yours.
	Will a Trump State Department retain the same Pro-war, pro-Zionist, neocon attitudes as the Biden State Department.
	I have to assume from his previous administration and other things like Jared Kushner's contacts and such that yes, but I don't think the State Department will be very instrumental in it.
	I don't even think if he moves Bill Burns over from CIA to be Secretary of State, which is what I would do, Or if he puts Marco Rubio or any other one of the aspirants in there.
	I don't think that'll change it much either.
	I think it'll be Trump who dictates that policy and his people who are for him in that policy's regard and not the State Department.
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	You know, it's just unbelievable how they insert so many ads.
	The State Department, there's a lot that it can do to accelerate what the President wants or delay what the President wants.
	Surely the attitude, the prevailing attitude, neocon, pro-Zionist, pro-war, pro-peace, libertarian, whatever it may happen to be, will have some influence.
	Does that level of people, below the political appointee level, generally stay the same No matter who's in the White House and who's the Secretary of State.
	There's some shifting around, but yes, it does maintain itself as any meritocracy is supposed to do.
	That was the purpose of establishing the civil service and the professional services, like the Foreign Service, to have stability and continuity and to have people who weren't politically oriented, basically.
	We adumbrated that and bastardized it by, for example, in my administration, George W. Bush's administration, Thirty-three or thirty-four percent of our ambassadors were political appointees, one of the highest percentages ever.
	But nonetheless, and let me go back to my original point, the State Department is not a very influential entity in the United States government, period.
	All right, I want to ask you who really runs U.S. foreign policy, but you intrigued me with something you just said.
	What do ambassadors do?
	Is it just social or are they covers for the intelligence community?
	Or you're not supposed to answer that.
	No, both.
	But they are oftentimes now, in particular, since 9-11, the CIA, the DNI, and Trump has promised that he is going to empower the DNI now.
	He has said that the CIA director will never darken his door, never get in his office.
	The DNI is going to be given money and people power.
	That is to say, he can now decide who goes where in the 16 intelligence entities.
	And he's going to be a powerful individual.
	If Trump does that, he will be, and he will be probably Trump's man, and he will give him the strategic intelligence that Trump wants.
	Or if he's a really honest broker, he will give him the intelligence that he should be getting.
	We don't know yet.
	That's a positive move, in my respect, if it's used properly, but that remains to be seen.
	If you look at the whole thing as an entity that has to function and that the civil service and the meritocracy, as it were, caused that function to take place, he's threatening and has said he's going to, through Project 2025, eliminate that efficiency.
	He's going to eliminate it in the name of his power dominance.
	I don't think that's possible, so we might see a lot of chaos.
	For whom do ambassadors work?
	Do they work for the CIA? Do they work for the Secretary of State?
	Do they work for the President?
	They work for the President of the United States.
	They are so commissioned by a personal letter signed by the President to each of the ambassadors.
	And if they want to, and they have in the past from time to time, they go straight to the President.
	The smartest ones will back brief the Secretary of State, but there have been ones that went to the President and didn't tell the Secretary of State anything about it.
	The Secretary of State found about it in a principals meeting or an NSC meeting.
	Do ambassadors know who in the embassy are really intelligence officials as opposed to State Department or ambassadorial people?
	They are, but that is kept to, depending on the ambassador, that's kept to a minimum in terms of information because they do not want the ambassador to have to lie about things.
	For example, if the chief of station in a particular embassy, especially an important embassy like Islamabad, Is in the position to know about a cohort operation that's being run by his station chief, he's got to lie about that to the Pakistani people and even to the American people if he's asked questions and he can't reveal them.
	So you just let him know an operation's going on, you don't give him any details.
	Sometimes they don't give him even the knowledge that it's going on.
	Depends on the deep cover that that operation is under.
	But it is a source of some trouble in embassies all across the globe from time to time.
	Who runs American foreign policy?
	The President of the United States through the Secretary of State.
	But, and here's my point, if you give a trillion dollars to the Defense Department, position its four stars all across the globe in fiefdoms of 30 to 40 nations each, And you give the State Department a pittance of that, not even close to a heavy percentage of that.
	And they have ambassadors in countries all across the world, some 196, 197, who are operating on shoestring most of the time.
	Guess who has the most power in terms of diplomacy or in terms of anything?
	Because of who has the money?
	That's it.
	And who's got the ships, the bombers, the planes, and everything else?
	Chief Fritz told us that you would not be upset about my mentioning this.
	During the administration of George W. Bush, was it Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney who essentially ran American foreign policy?
	For four years, absolutely.
	It was not the President.
	It was not his all-star Secretary of State.
	The President thought he was.
	Powell put it, I think I gave you this one time before, Powell's metaphor with me on multiple occasions was Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld know how to get the President to pull his.45 out of its holster and start shooting all over the place.
	I got to figure out how to get him to put it back in his holster, and he never figured it out.
	That is consistent with what Chief Fritz said.
	He basically said that Rumsfeld and Cheney were able to talk Bush.
	It was a neophyte, even Whatever is below in the fight had zero experience in foreign policy and the two of them had a tremendous amount when he hired each of them.
	Perfect example, Powell finally talked himself on the Air Force One going to Africa with the president without any other people there of consequence.
	He managed in that flight to convince the president to send our emissary to Pyongyang to talk directly with the North Koreans.
	Not only that, to go to the Six-Party Talks in Beijing, I think it was that year, and we were going to talk directly with the North Koreans.
	This was absolutely opposed by the Vice President.
	The President agreed.
	So if the Ukrainian Rumsfeld had been there, this probably wouldn't have happened, or at least the decision wouldn't have been made on the spot.
	The Vice President was fishing in, I think, Wyoming or Idaho or someplace, He finds out what's happened.
	He had an extraordinary network, part of his bureaucratic power.
	He flies back to Washington, gets the president alone in the Oval Office and talks him out of it.
	So we have to call our emissary back.
	He's refueling at Hickam in Havagi.
	We didn't call him back, but we essentially changed his orders.
	He had to talk through the Chinese or other interlocutors.
	He couldn't talk directly with the North Koreans.
	That is such fascinating stuff!
	My goodness!
	Wilkerson is a great source of information.
	Since he has nothing to lose, he now lets it all spill out.
	Opening the coffee beans for us all to smell.
	There was some absolutely stunning stuff there!
	I loved it!
	Including from Including Trump elevating the Office of National Intelligence over the CIA. They have got to be pissed.
	Well, good for Trump.
	I mean, he obviously knows what happened to JFK. So instead of threatening to tear them into a thousand pieces, he's very silently going to just evaporate them into just...
	Non-participation.
	Not letting them close enough to him or his family.
	So that's one reason that even though Trump is so strongly Zionist-oriented, I still think he's an American first.
	And that to me is important.
	And it's up to us to remind him and to support him that America is his base and that of his children and any future Trump that wants to run for president.
	America comes first.
	John, your thoughts?
	Yeah.
	I wish you'd have cut it off a little sooner, because as you keep letting it go on and on and on, there's a lot of questions or comments I could make.
	But the point was, this guy was the Chief of Staff at Department of State, and during that time was Colin Powell, Bush, and Cheney, and all these other people during the 9-11 incident.
	And I'm recalling a guy who was at an embassy, worked for immigration, he was ordered by the CIA to give out visas to these people that were the terrorists that were allegedly on the planes.
	Having said that, a lot of people don't get it.
	When they say that they're not spies, Judge Napolitano, all due respect, doesn't know shit about this stuff.
	They are spies.
	I've seen them.
	I've worked around people that they're spies, every one of them.
	The problem is, one's the head figurehead, like he said, the guy that has to tell the truth or the lie.
	The other guys that work under him, they do all the other dirty work.
	Including the guy that was an immigration official.
	And he's very animate and angry because he's dirty right now.
	And they know it.
	He gave away visas to these people on the orders of the CIA through the Department of State.
	Now, if everybody understands that, it's all clear the chain of command there.
	So they left these people come into the country.
	Under those people that were in charge of those embassies under Department of State.
	So anybody tells you otherwise, they need to go back and educate themselves.
	I think you're ignoring the Israeli involvement.
	I don't think it's fair to say Napolitano knows shit.
	He's a highly well-informed man.
	But that's your opinion.
	John, just to add, everyone understands embassies are there to gather information on the nations where they are located.
	I mean, of course!
	And some are more covert and others less covert, but I think that's generally understood now.
	The allowing of these 19 Islamic terrorists in the United States, they were patsies.
	I mean, that was all set up.
	It was an inside job.
	They were merely figures, just like Osama bin Laden in a very elaborate piece of political theater, because as I and others have established beyond any doubt it was an Israeli op to create a pretext for drawing the United States into the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront The Persian nation of Iran.
	So, you know, letting them in was just part of setting up the script, getting the players in place.
	Exactly.
	They were like models that were just walking through and they just got video of them walking through the turnstiles and on the way to within the airport.
	They weren't involved in any of that.
	Many of them even called up and objected to their names being used, saying that they were not in any way involved.
	And look at their passports.
	They were not there at that time.
	The video was taken at other times.
	But before we conclude this show, there's something I want to discuss about the first Jordanian ambassador to Israel.
	So before the show is over, please allow me to discuss that.
	Layla, we got over an hour to go.
	You're going to have a chance.
	Well, not really an hour.
	There's still music and there's still all that, you know, the ads and everything.
	You're going to have plenty of opportunity.
	You're going to have plenty of opportunity.
	Well, I want to find an appropriate opportunity.
	You can take it right now if you like.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	I would like to do that.
	I was just watching where the ambassador, the first ambassador, I can't remember his name right now, but he was denying the reports by Bob Woodruff that the king of Jordan, Abdullah, told the Americans that he had warned about Hamas not to trust Hamas.
	He wanted Hamas destroyed.
	The Jordanian ambassador denied that.
	I personally, or he didn't deny it entirely.
	He said he doubted that it was true.
	I personally believe it is true.
	Because the Jordanians have done everything in their power to eradicate the concept of a Palestinian nation.
	The grandfather of this man, who was half British, and who is one of many children of the previous generation, They're all midgets.
	I'm sorry.
	They're all half-pines.
	The Hashemites.
	What they wanted, they took over Palestine illegally by making deals with the British.
	It started with the grandfather of this man.
	He made a deal with the British that he would cooperate in every way that he could to help Israel be created as long as they gave him At least a portion of the land.
	And actually they got, if you look at the size of what was Transjordan and is today Jordan, it is much larger than anything that would have been allocated to both Israel and Palestine combined, which is what it was supposed to be.
	He was such a traitor, it was so obvious that he was assassinated on the steps of a mosque by a Palestinian.
	So when this king, this half-pint, That is the King of Jordan.
	Now, he is a total traitor, an absolute traitor to the Palestinians.
	For example, if when they took over...
	Do I hear a break coming?
	Let me continue.
	Let me continue after the break.
	This is a very important point.
	Okay, thank you.
	We're going to get to it, my love.
	We'll be right back after this break.
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	Well, I continue about the King of Jordan.
	Yes, I don't want to make it too complicated, so I won't get into how the British stole the mandate Because Palestine was considered a level A mandate capable of its own administration.
	You said you wouldn't get into it.
	Just let it go.
	So the British took it and created a state of Palestine.
	Prior to that, Palestine was a region not with any formal boundaries.
	And they had an elected person.
	Each village or town or tribe would have a representative who spoke on their behalf in the Ottoman Empire.
	So when the British created Palestine as a nation state and they gave half of it to the Jordanian king who made a deal to help them, he could have left it as the West Bank as Palestine.
	But what did he do?
	He agreed with the Zionists that they would erase the name Palestine, and he called it the West Bank.
	Layla, I'm really interested in the Trump administration and how Zionist is going to be.
	I mean, you have an encyclopedic knowledge of Palestine, but I don't right now want to delve into those details.
	If you can give me a very concise bottom line.
	Jim, I can't read the crystal ball.
	I've already said what I think, that Trump...
	He is deeply Zionist, but the fact that he is bringing in his sons will have a role in tempering his subservience to the Zionists.
	Don't underestimate my role here.
	I have another article very important from Mike Hittney, Trump's Triumph in the Firing of Yoav Gallant, which I really wanted to be the centerpiece of our conversation today.
	Would you believe there's a big...
	There's a big poster in New York City.
	Congratulations, Trump.
	Make Israel great.
	It doesn't say again, but that's the idea.
	Why was Trump allowed to win the election?
	Mike Whitney asked.
	We know what happens when the deep state does not get the outcome it wants.
	All hell breaks loose, just like it did following the 2016 elections.
	Try to remember what that was like.
	Try to remember the legal challenges and the lawsuits, the hectoring and name-calling, the spurious allegations of voter fraud and Russian meddling.
	And the overall discrediting of the electoral process.
	Try to recall the street protests, the angry anti-fascist mobs scuffling with cops and the relentless outbursts of rage directed at the new Hitler.
	Do you remember that?
	That's what happens when the deep state does not get its way.
	Have you noticed that nothing similar to that display of manufactured rage has taken place in 2024?
	Have you noticed that the liberal media has been calling for calm and unity?
	That it's almost impossible to find a belligerent or hostile article named at Trump?
	Isn't this a case of the dog that didn't bark?
	A case in which a skeptical person should assume foul play, not from what he hears, but from what he doesn't.
	Indeed, the reason for the election result were free and fair is not because the intel community has stopped rigging elections, but because no rigging was required.
	He wanted Trump to win because Trump was their man.
	Before I explain what I mean by that, allow me to share an email I sent to a friend on Monday, the day before the election.
	Trump's going to win.
	The deep state needs a popular president to recruit red state teenagers to fight a war with Iran.
	Harris doesn't have that kind of appeal.
	Does this help to explain why the media hasn't gone bonkers over the Trump victory and pilloried him as a racist, fascist, homophobe as they typically do?
	As it happens, the deep state Which unconditionally supports the state of Israel needs Donald Trump.
	Anita, charismatic, populist firebrand to boost recruitment and spearhead to rush to war.
	Harris can't do that.
	Harris had trouble attracting a hundred supporters to a rally.
	She paid for the mobs, it turned out.
	No, this is a task for a leader who is trusted, admired, and loved.
	This is a task for a man who has credibility with a red state young man who traditionally fought our wars.
	This is a job for Trump.
	And here we have a message from Bibi, Prime Minister of Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Net, dear Donald and Melania Trump.
	Congratulations on history's greatest comeback.
	Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America.
	Here's Here's a God bless America.
	Forgive me, Jim.
	Who's the author?
	What's the byline on that article?
	Mike Whitney.
	He publishes on oons.com.
	This is, I think, a very striking article of great importance.
	I disagree with it.
	I disagree with it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	I just don't think that anybody is going to run off and fight Iran.
	There is no way.
	There's no need.
	There's no ground fight.
	I think it's going to be taken care of with the help of Russia and with Iran's missiles.
	It's not going to be a ground fight.
	That's my opinion from what I've read and what I've heard.
	Yeah, I think that's a great point that they don't need ground forces.
	Iran is a big country.
	Iran is like 78 times the size of Israel.
	And I think Iran has the ability to pulverize Israel.
	Here's a sign.
	Save Israel.
	Vote Trump.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I still think it's part of the propaganda that they were sending out.
	They're inhaling the exhaust fumes from when everybody believed that Israel was God's favorite and the incarnate of all that is divine and good.
	It's actually satanic and evil and sadistic.
	My intensity that you referred to earlier, if I were watching one person being murdered, I would become intensely enraged and try to stop it.
	Instead, I had to sit for one year, over a year, watching people.
	Hundreds of thousands may never be found under the rubble.
	But many of those could be related to me that I never got a chance to meet.
	So yes, I'm intensely outraged.
	It's hard for me to withhold.
	I'm sure you understand it.
	You'd feel the same way, and I'm sure you do feel the same way.
	But I had nothing else to do except to watch it.
	But anyway, I think it's all propaganda.
	I was purely talking about Hearing every word when you're on the radio with me.
	Sometimes your intensity makes it hard to follow what you're saying.
	That's all.
	I appreciate your passion.
	No, no, I understand.
	You're right.
	I'm talking stylistic.
	It's like Tom from Florida come on and talks a mile a minute.
	People can't even tell what he's saying when he's talking so fast.
	Well, I don't think I talk as fast as Tom or Jumbo.
	You don't.
	But Leila, your issue is different.
	It's got to do with that intensity.
	I'm just trying to get your communication.
	Jim, I appreciate what you're saying.
	Sincerely, I appreciate what you're saying.
	But the point is, if anybody is interested, if they're not interested, I'd like to get it out and gone.
	If people are interested, they can rewind.
	They can rewind and even slow down the speed on YouTube.
	You go into the settings and you can slow down the speed.
	Thank you, Layla.
	Thank you, Layla.
	Now, we got this issue of the firing of Gallant.
	Now, Gallant has, you know, a great deal of military experience.
	He's been replaced by a guy named Katz who is only a frontline soldier.
	Why was Gallant fired?
	Here's part of what Mike has to say.
	In fact, this is actually, I think, from the Times of Israel.
	Gallant's opposition to Israeli rule of Gaza, his support for a hostage ceasefire deal there, put him at odds with the coalition's far right flank.
	Further, stressing already great ties within the cabinet.
	Gallant said to tell Netanyahu management of war, the war is directionless, the goals need updating.
	Can you see what's going on?
	Can you understand how serious this is?
	Gallant opposed a war with Iran, so he was sacked.
	Now the crazies are running the asylum and think Uncle Sam is going to come in to the rescue when they get their butt kicked.
	This may be the most dangerous situation humanity has ever faced.
	The future of life on a planet is being decided by fanatical messianic zealots whose grasp of reality is gravely in doubt and who believe that any act of violence they inflict upon their neighbors is blessed by Almighty God.
	And now they want Trump to join their harebrained war in Iran so they can light up the entire region with a Roman candle and bring on the end times.
	In the words of Nancy Reagan, Trump should just say no.
	Yeah, let's hope he does say no.
	Let's hope that he finds the money to buy his freedom from the debts that the Zionists think.
	I mean, they've been paid over.
	They've sucked the life out of the U.S. They have sucked the money and everything out of the U.S. That small handful of maniacs, they're not messianic zealots.
	They're secular Satanists.
	The zealots, the messianic zealots, are the ones, the ultra-orthodox men who refuse to serve in the so-called Israeli defense forces, which is really an Israeli sadistic murderous force.
	They have been their whole goal from the day before.
	They already had it planned well in advance that they were going to trick the British by baiting them with, we will be your puppets and keep And keep all of your colonies in Africa and India and the Arab world all joined together, and we will whip the circus for you.
	We will whip the wild animals.
	So Britain fell for it, and then they chased the British out.
	They're not messianic zealots.
	They're not even true Jews.
	They don't even believe.
	They're just propagandists and greedy, money-hungry.
	Whatever you want to give them.
	Military.
	I mean, what have we been?
	North America, what have we become to Israel?
	It's farm.
	We provide them with lives to fight for them.
	We provide them most of all with money.
	We provide them with diplomatic cover.
	But all of that has faded.
	Israel has become finally acknowledged as a very dangerous liability, a liability not only to the U.S., but a liability to every civilized nation with people of any skin color, of any religion.
	If they have any morality, they look upon Israel with disgust and shame that they ever allowed Israel to get this far.
	Here are a couple of anchors in Israel celebrating Trump's victory in the election, taking shots of whiskey on her.
	God bless America and the people of Israel. - I'm so excited.
	They're all drinking and celebrating.
	You know what?
	Those Yiddishers are in for a big surprise.
	Those Yiddishers who pretend that they're speaking Hebrew, those Yiddishers who pretend that they are the descendants 2,000 years ago or 3,000 years ago, and they have no documents or anything to prove it, they haven't provided the DNA either, but they're going to be really...
	Trump might be willing, but Trump is going to do what America wants.
	He has sons who have ambitions.
	He has grandchildren.
	He has a future that he cares about more.
	Trump is obviously a loyal family man.
	He may have wandered on his wives, but he still maintained good relations with Ivanka even after he divorced her.
	He was good to Marla Maples and the daughter he had with her.
	He is a family man.
	So he is not, and that makes him more interested in the country where his children live and where they will have a future.
	So Israel, you Yiddishers, you're done.
	It may not be now.
	And as for the Arab world, you have now really, you have used them, abused them, and ridiculed them.
	They're not united.
	They're not all Arabs.
	They are a variety of people.
	But whoever they are, we have lumped them together into one label, the Arabs.
	Well, yeah, they speak Arabic or dialects of it.
	So in that sense, they are the true Semites because they speak a Semitic dialect.
	But they are now not going to make any deals with you because their people will tear them to shreds if they make any deals with you after what you've done to unarmed children.
	Women, unarmed men, old men, the torture, the sadism, and then you danced and pranced around in women's underwear?
	Do you think any of those people would dare support you and make deals with you?
	You have committed suicide, you Israelis.
	And you know what the pity is?
	I think it would have been possible at one time to have a one-state Where everybody lived as it was supposed to be.
	That was the whole agreement.
	When Israel was admitted, it declared unilateral independence without consulting anybody.
	It has no right.
	I really get angry when I hear people say, oh, Israel should give the Palestinians a state.
	Excuse me.
	When someone is a thief and they steal someone's property, You don't come back later and say the thief should be generous and give a piece of the property he stole back to the victim that he has been sadistically abusing, starving and raping and killing by ramming pipes up their anus.
	Israel doesn't give anything away.
	Israel stole everything.
	You don't give back stolen property.
	You return it.
	You return it and then you get punished.
	You get crucified for doing that.
	Here's another Israeli media celebrating Trump's victory.
	Israel loves Donald Trump.
	They're all celebrating, cheering.
	They got a picture of...
	- - - Hey, you know what that reminds me of?
	You know the old Charles Dickens stories of how the children that were poor on the streets were raised by a guy who was, what was his name?
	Fagan, I think.
	He had a bunch of children that were pickpockets and thieves.
	And then when they had a big take, they would bring the loot in and they would all celebrate.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	It's going to keep the loot, you guys.
	I think that's right.
	Yeah, they're not going to keep the loot.
	Listen, John, I don't want to leave you out there.
	Go ahead.
	Do you have any thoughts about any of this?
	Yeah, I'm listening to the back and forth, and I'm analyzing all this stuff, because I've got some knowledge, too.
	But I'm just trying to figure out...
	I agree with what Layla is saying in a lot of things.
	But people need to be explained.
	They need to have it explained to them that if you're not Jewish, you're a goy.
	And they have their right, they believe, to lie, cheat, steal, and even injure or kill you if you're not one of them.
	And I'm looking at what she just said about the story, the Charles Dickens story.
	It's exactly that.
	They steal from the rich, they give to the poor or themselves, lie, cheat, steal.
	And if you're a good goy, you're like George Bush Jr., that Abe Finkelstein character who said he was a good goy.
	They say, well, it's all about that.
	If you're not Jewish, you're Goy.
	See what I mean?
	So it's very simple for them, but apparently we're all being divided into certain categories, and maybe they believe they're going to have, what is it, 2,800 slaves in the afterlife joke.
	Maybe Layla can kind of explain a little bit of that.
	Actually, you know what's interesting, John, is that they have bought a lot of Christians to make them better looking.
	For example, if you look at a lot of those who were supposedly Israeli, if you look at them, you can see that they're either Polish, Russian, genetically German, or any other Slavic or ethnic group.
	They paid off a lot of the poverty-stricken, Christians of Europe and bribe them to become Jewish so that they could look more like the Europeans than the rest of the world.
	And especially in Russia.
	In fact, they were called the Sheposnikis or the Subotniks.
	Subotnik being the Sabbath people.
	Sheposniki, I'm not sure exactly what that means.
	Someone who speaks Russian might be able to describe it.
	But a lot of them aren't even Jews.
	They were bribed because in the early years, when they were trying to get the demographics on their side, they needed to get Jewish converts.
	So they bribed them.
	They bought them.
	They bought Jews.
	And they brought them over.
	They would give them a free house, lots of money, good education.
	And so what could be better?
	If you're living in poverty in Europe, are you going to resist?
	When someone says, we're going to give you a house in the Holy Land, if you're a Christian, you'll be where Jesus was.
	So all of those, and the most evil of all, as much as I have had negative things to say, I think accurately negative things to say about Israelis and Zionism, Baptists in particular, Christian Zionist Baptists, you are despicable.
	You drive a nail in the crucifix of Jesus Christ every time to dare to say that these awful Zionist murderers who crucified Christ and are now crucifying Palestinian babies symbolically If you say that they are God's chosen people, you're distorted if you don't know what the chosen was originally intended to mean.
	The original chosenness was that you were supposed to be a role model to the world on how to behave with ethics, morality, peace, and sharing with others who are human.
	But they consider themselves superior.
	Did you get the...
	I think it was Larry, was it Larry Wilkerson or was it Larry Johnson, I think.
	They're all, they all seem to me, the Lawrence, there must be something special about that name.
	But anyway, he described what Zionism is.
	And I sent it to someone who is an associate with you, Jim.
	I sent the words, I typed them up and he was, I asked him to post it.
	Maybe you can post it elsewhere, but he gave an excellent description of what Zionism is.
	Zionism is where the Jews or the Zionists or the Israelis, not all Jews, because there are many Jews who do follow a Judaic religion that is spiritual in nature and is loving of humanity and respects God.
	But Zionism is a political military movement that says there's only one God, and he made us superior to the rest of you.
	He gave us better food, better land.
	He gave us a better education.
	So we are better than you.
	You are inferior.
	And those are the goy that you spoke of, John.
	We are the inferior people.
	Remember when Herod killed all the firstborns?
	That's almost like what Baal and Molloth or whatever all these satanic groups do.
	Exactly.
	And they used to, they blame that on the pagan.
	Well, they were the pagans.
	They were the killers.
	They were the brutalizers.
	In fact, the Jews used to kill the first Christians.
	You would not believe, especially in Alexandria in ancient Egypt.
	I mean, they just butchered Christians.
	Well, Christians, of course, fought back.
	But Alexandria, the city of Alexandria, was always in turmoil.
	In fact, a very interesting name to look up is a woman named Hypatia.
	H-Y-P-A-T-I-A. It is Greek.
	She was a Platonist.
	She was neither Christian nor Jewish.
	She wasn't really a pagan.
	She was a mathematician and a scientist trained by her father.
	And she used to give lectures at the library in Alexandria, where she collected thousands of manuscripts from around the world.
	But eventually, they tore her to shreds.
	They used tiles, tore the flesh off her, and blamed her for being the source of...
	They just simply, they hate women.
	Look at the story of Jezebel.
	Jezebel was the wife of a king of Lebanon, of what is now Lebanon, what would have been probably Ugarit, or not Tyre, or Biblos, or maybe Sidon, who knows, but it was one of the areas of Lebanon.
	Her father was a king.
	Her brother stole from her, but she ended up finally marrying Ahab, who was One of the Jewish kings of Judah, or Israel, or Galilee, I'm not sure.
	You'd have to look it up in the Bible.
	But they wanted her dead because she actually worshipped the gods of her people.
	And so they...
	They were coming to kill her and feed her to the dogs.
	Layla, Layla, Layla, we're hitting a break.
	We're hitting a break.
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	Well, we had our first caller, Anonymous.
	I tried to join, but seems to have disappeared.
	Anonymous, please call in again and I'll put you on the air.
	Remember the number, 608-957-8727.
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	You're welcome to join the conversation.
	Layla, you were saying.
	Yeah, while we're waiting, Jezebel, remember that name.
	That is why women in Western civilization suffered as being responsible.
	If they ever were sexually abused or harassed, they were always called a Jezebel.
	The Jezebel is based on this woman who was very attractive, a beautiful woman, She married a king of supposedly Israel, and they wanted to kill her and feed her to the dogs.
	She put on her makeup, went to the window, and jumped out and let the dogs eat her.
	She did not care.
	She was that brave.
	The women in ancient times were treated in the most disparaging terms, and that's putting it very mildly.
	We do have a first caller.
	Paul, join the conversation.
	Yeah, I'm always glad to hear Layla on the show.
	And I see a lot of the points that she's making.
	I even actually do see the points that you make as well, Jim.
	But, I mean, to me it's always about how you look at things, how you think about stuff.
	So just for the fun that I'll mention, one of the things I do for the other show, the other network I'm on, is I watch these videos, police interaction videos as well.
	And a lot of times people are being trespassed from, you know, like a bar or a restaurant or a store, for example.
	Now, what's interesting is I was listening to all this talk about, you know, politics and, of course, money and big money.
	Is that in many cases these people that are trespassed have money and are spending money in the establishment, but for one reason or another they're asked to leave because they're a nuisance.
	Now sometimes it could be because they're drinking too much, who knows, but in other cases it's just the way they act their personality.
	And it just made me think about the fact that that's really what we need to get back to.
	I mean we're living in a world that's completely dominated by money, One group of people has taken control of essentially all the money in the world.
	Essentially, the money generation, or what we call the issue of money, is completely in their hands.
	And so with that, they want to be able to dictate the type of world that we live in.
	And I think there's no better example than what Jim has covered many times on his show, and maybe Lila has heard him cover, what happened in Libya.
	Okay, which is sort of similar to Germany, you know, with some variations.
	But what was Libya doing for the common everyday man, its own people, similar to what was Germany doing for its own people, besides withdrawing from the international finance system?
	And I think about the fact that we have to get to a point where we need to trespass, or here's a better word, expel Certain annoying and obnoxious people, no matter whether they have money or not, whether they're willing to spend the money, and that's where what I call principles and integrity comes in.
	This world that they've created, principles and integrity, in many cases, is a spectator on the sidelines.
	And the real players have the money.
	And they can buy the people that will do what it is they want.
	And will compromise their principles and their integrity for money and for a paycheck.
	So, will Trump do things such as drain the swamp and clean the house and all that?
	I don't know.
	I have my doubts.
	It's interesting to see and to watch because what other choice do we have but to, you know, to be spectators because none of us here are, quote, in power.
	Although I think that...
	Me, as president, some very interesting things would take place.
	Many of the things that they've accused Trump of being, I would actually do.
	That's very well said, Paul.
	I agree with everything you've said.
	Thank you.
	What do you think, Jim?
	John?
	Well, speaking of Libya, I like Colonel Qaddafi because he did help his people.
	The only time he got screwed over is when the deep state tried to manipulate him and they killed him because he didn't want to bend over to him.
	He gave him everything.
	He gave him housing.
	He gave him free college and tuition and medical expenses.
	And if he couldn't get a medical...
	Including women.
	Including all of them.
	Exactly.
	And he would send them back to the United States for medical treatment if they couldn't do it in Libya.
	Exactly.
	He was very good to his people, but let me stress how they murdered him.
	Remember the Jews raping, not the prisoners, the Palestinian prisoners, because they've never even been charged with anything.
	They've been taken hostage by the tens of thousands from the West Bank, where they were raped with pipes.
	They have an obsession with anal penetration that is agony.
	Colonel Gaddafi had a sword stuck up his anus to kill him.
	So tell me that the Israelis were not involved in that.
	It's supposed to be a satanic ritual of some sort also.
	Hillary Clinton is a Jew anyway.
	I mean, you know, we won't go into that another time, perhaps, if Jim is interested in the story.
	Anyway, go ahead, John.
	That's a good observation.
	And I'll add this too, just for the heck of it.
	So, you know, what's funny is I was watching one of these videos, you know, with the left's reaction or the so-called, you know, the woke crowd, the liberals just becoming, you know, so upset and, you know, apoplectic about what Trump, what they think he is or what he might do.
	And they were listing all these things.
	For example, he's going to do sweeps.
	He's going to do immigration sweeps or raids, workplace raids, or he's going to have camps at the border.
	And I'm thinking to myself, yeah, check, check.
	Yeah, that's what people want.
	He's going to arrest or even to jail or even assassinate his political enemies.
	And I'm going, yeah, yeah, that's what needs to occur.
	He was going to do all these things.
	And I kept thinking as I went down this entire list, and it wasn't every single point, but pretty much 80 to 90 percent of all these things is exactly what the American people wanted.
	Want and would expect, but also, it's what works, okay?
	It's what worked.
	Because, see, without Western man and our money and our economy and our banking system, these Jews would be nothing more than a mixed-race desert, you know, goblin people with little to no experience, little to no influence, and nobody would listen to them or want anything to do with them, okay?
	We're their financial support.
	We're the foot soldiers for their so-called Jewish world order.
	Without us, they would be insignificant and they should be.
	And just think what they've done in this country.
	They've spent decades and decades and decades working on our minds to get us to drop two very fundamental principles that we all need and that we need to be free.
	One is prejudice and the other is discrimination.
	If you're not discriminating about what it is you consume, you're not going to be a very healthy person, right?
	And if you're not discriminating and a little bit prejudiced about the people that you allow into your country, then you're going to become exactly what it is that we fear, and that's this third-world mess that they're trying to turn us into.
	Just an aside, 778 called in, and just as I was about to bring...
	778 and they drop.
	So 778, if you want to get on the show, just call back.
	Continue, Layla.
	I'd like to make a comment to Paul about discrimination.
	That used to be a badge of honor.
	If you were a discriminating person, if you were able to recognize what is good and healthy Culturally, psychologically, physiologically, and in terms of food, if you had the ability to make distinctions and to be discriminating, that was a badge of honor.
	And it must be restored.
	Because when you drop...
	Okay, let me tell you what I was taught when I first started writing news for TV. When you write for TV, you have to remember most people are uneducated.
	So make sure you write to a grade 7 audience.
	Now, a grade 7 audience in those days was probably a university, first year university now.
	But that's what we were told, you have to write down.
	You cannot write well.
	And even now, people who used to be writers or reporters in newsrooms, They don't even use proper grammar.
	They put in a phrase and then dot, dot, dot.
	A phrase, dot, dot, dot.
	There's a tremendous loss in the things that made us proud of our intellect.
	And that is what is so sad because to be discriminating now means you're being unfair to somebody.
	Well, excuse me, there is nothing more different That isn't more differentiated than any living thing, whether it's a plant, an animal, or a human, or any species of animal.
	There are all these great disparities in their abilities, whether it's cognitive or physiological.
	And I'll add to this point, if you don't mind, I'll layer on top of that with things that we probably all know here.
	So I'm sure you're familiar, Layla, and I know Jim is with the Charlotte Iserbet's book, The Deliberate Dummy-Down of America.
	And so when you take that into account, you ask yourself, okay, well, why?
	What is the purpose for doing that?
	Why would they want to do that?
	And of course, it just comes back to what Hitler actually said about the fact that the Jews cannot be mastered over a people that's conscious of its blood and its race.
	They can only be masters over a bastardized or mongrelized people.
	And of course, They're deliberately dumbing down, essentially, our racial genetics by encouraging us to intermix.
	I was in Target, a major department store, the other day.
	This struck me a couple years ago when I was in Macy's.
	And all the advertisements that you see, they see in different department social pictures, especially the clothing, like women's clothing, men's clothing, boys' girls' clothing, right?
	They'll show the models.
	There's photos, photos and posters.
	And Damn if the good-looking white person is the dinosaur these days.
	And all you see are what I would call dysgenic-looking mixed-race people everywhere.
	It's like exactly what has always been talked about.
	It's what they're doing.
	It's a formula that they're applying because they know that degradation is, for whatever reason, their thing.
	It's not our thing.
	And we're being forced to accept it.
	We're being told, oh, yeah, Tolerance is great, right?
	Diversity is great.
	All these things that make no sense at all are great.
	And of course, this is the Jew working on our minds.
	That's why we can't accept their money.
	I don't care how nice they are.
	They have to be expelled like a person that's trespassed from a business.
	Sorry, your money's no good here.
	Stand by.
	We have another caller lately.
	I want to bring in area code 864.
	Join the conversation.
	Thanks for your call, Paul.
	You are correct.
	Diversity is the destruction of any country.
	I also want to bring out something about Libya, and that is one of the main reasons why Libya was invaded and taken over was that within three days of the takeover, 220 metric tons of gold were removed from Libya.
	That's a fact, okay?
	Well known, but it is a fact, okay?
	Now, also, the other problem we have over here in Gaza is not being talked about.
	Under the Gaza lands remain a half a trillion dollars worth of oil, gas, and water reserves that are not being talked about.
	That's what, basically, they want right there.
	My proposal is very simple.
	The Jewish Israelis are to Turn back over all the properties controlled by Israel to the Palestinians.
	Period.
	No compromises.
	Then they can become...
	Hold on.
	Let me talk, please.
	Sorry.
	Then they could be merchants and merchants only.
	That's it.
	They are not to be allowed into politics, gatekeeper positions, or positions of power and authority.
	That's the rules.
	And that should be applied to every country in the world.
	Now, to replace those that are in those positions...
	A lot of distortion.
	Can you hold the microphone a little bit further away from you?
	That'd probably be better.
	All right.
	How about this?
	Yeah, better.
	Okay, now, my second proposal is very simple.
	To replace those Jews, I call them the kosher rat pack.
	That's made up of Zionists, all Jews, no matter who they are, and also those people that the Jews have bought.
	That's the Kosher Rat Pack.
	They are the occupants of the United States government as we speak.
	Now, worldwide, to replace these people, you must have qualifications of your parents must be natural-born, you must be natural-born citizen, your parents have to be natural-born citizens, and your grandparents have to be natural-born citizens.
	This applies to every country, and don't make any exceptions to it.
	That should take care of it.
	And one more thing, too, is worldwide, the Jews and the synagogue should be put on notice.
	They are now to start paying reparations to the Palestinians for their losses, for the reconstruction.
	And one more thing, too, it should last for at least, oh, let's say, six million years.
	Stand by.
	We've got another caller.
	816.
	816, join the conversation.
	Yeah.
	I was going to say, when you talked about the fact that you have all these blacks and whites together on the ads, it's because you need pure DNA for people like us to incarnate.
	People that know what's going on.
	And when you screw it up, you don't get people like us.
	You get surf.
	So that's why they're doing that.
	And one other thing of interest, this will make people feel good Uh, Trump just, uh, he has his chief of staff is going to be this woman.
	I think her last name is Willis or whatever.
	So I did, huh?
	She ran it.
	She ran his campaign.
	She was his campaign.
	I can't remember.
	I, I had her name and I called her in because I get people call me all the time to check on things telepathically and, uh, A lot of times I don't like doing it because if they're really dark, I feel their darkness.
	But I called her in and she was of the light.
	It surprised me.
	So that's a good sign that we've got someone who's good.
	Okay.
	Thanks, Ryan.
	Layla, would you like to comment on these remarks from Mike and Brian?
	Yes.
	Actually, the other thing that was...
	Really important about Gaddafi, he knew that he was targeted to be murdered.
	And he told the West, I am holding back a black wall.
	If you kill me, you will have Africans rushing over to Europe and you won't be able to stop them.
	And his prediction came absolutely true.
	And as for someone sensing light...
	Layla, let's just pursue that a second.
	Yes.
	I mean, Libya was such promise for a golden era for Africa with the Great Water Works Project and everything else he was doing.
	You're saying, in essence, his death and the slaughter of Libya was a powerful motivator for Africans to leave the continent and head to Europe?
	That's fascinating.
	Well, of course, because when Gaddafi was building up Africa, he wanted to keep his people there.
	He wasn't fully African himself.
	I know he was Arab to some extent.
	Whether he was fully Arab, I don't know.
	But he was building up all of Africa.
	He was educating everybody.
	He was helping them.
	And he warned the Western world, I know you want to kill me, but beware that you will pay a heavy price.
	I am holding back a black wall.
	That's what they wanted.
	Fascinating.
	A black wave, in essence.
	Fascinating.
	And, of course, a gold denar.
	A tsunami.
	Fascinating.
	Paul, your thoughts?
	Well, I'll just make the obvious point.
	No, Qaddafi was not black, and most Libyans aren't black.
	North Africa is much different.
	That's why they always use the term sub-Saharan Africa.
	Yeah.
	Because North Africa, genetically, is a very, very different place.
	And of course, you know, people are uncomfortable saying, but Jim knows I'm not uncomfortable saying it, but black DNA is the death of any civilized society, okay?
	I'm sorry, but it is really just like a, it's an alien foreign protein that we don't want at all, period.
	There's no good that comes out of it.
	Wherever Wherever lots and lots of black DNA, black protoplasm goes, it's destruction.
	It's certainly destruction for the white race.
	So that's how we really need to treat it and how we need to think about it.
	We just don't necessarily have to say it to them.
	We don't have to throw it in their faces.
	But we need to separate.
	And that's what really, as a white nationalist, that's what we want, is separation.
	Agreed-upon separation.
	And there's a lot of blacks that feel similar.
	They don't want to mix with whites.
	They want to...
	You know, they want to see their own race have independence and prosper as best it can without being dominated by whites.
	And we're all in favor of that, okay?
	This whole mixture of the races is contrived.
	It's a Jewish contrivance.
	Yes.
	Yes, it is contrived because a lot of blacks do take pride in who and what they are.
	And they have every right to.
	And I have to say that I have the deepest respect or the highest respect for the South Africans.
	If it were not for Cyril Ramaphosa and South Africa, who brought the case of the Palestinians and the torture of what was happening there, the massacres, to the attention of the world, with Al Jazeera recording everything, and all of those reporters have been killed.
	They've all been murdered, and now what's happening in the north of Gaza, there's just massive massacres going on, but there's no one there left to record it.
	But I do have a lot of respect for Africans, but I agree they, too, want to keep their own identity, many of them.
	In fact, didn't Abraham Lincoln want to separate the races and send some of them back to Liberia, was it?
	Jim, do you know anything about that?
	That's sort of vaguely familiar.
	Was that you, Paul?
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Continue, Leila, if you have further thoughts we're reaching, you may want to share final thoughts now.
	My final thoughts are that no matter what the Israelis and the Zionists and the murderers are, no matter how they're punished, no matter what efforts they make to compensate, nothing ever brings back what is lost.
	We will never know what kind of culture and civilization would have developed in Palestine Had they been allowed to develop their own culture?
	By the way, many of the IT developments were done by Palestinians.
	The Israelis used to give them the jobs at a fraction of the price and then market it as Israeli-produced, Israeli-engineered.
	A lot of the brain work, a lot of the intellect came from the Palestinians who were educated.
	Come on, man.
	Let me have it.
	I'm sorry, did someone want to say something?
	No, continue.
	I'd like to actually address you personally, Layla.
	I'd like to say one thing that I think you can take with you.
	And then I have two more comments after that, and then I'm done, okay?
	And thanks, Jim and Paul and Layla.
	This is something I want you to carry with you.
	Life always gives you a second chance.
	It's called tomorrow.
	And I want to also address the issue that why were all tribes given their separate continents?
	And what do we need religion for?
	Mike, that's a bit much for the last few seconds we have left, okay?
	Just cut it off.
	Okay?
	Is anybody interested about Gaddafi?
	Say again, John, is that you?
	Well, you guys didn't seem to know where he was from.
	He was from the desert area of Tripolatania, which is Italian Western Libya.
	So he may have been Italian Libyan.
	Which is where Tripoli was, basically.
	Actually, I don't know if many people realize that many of the Visigoths, which were the ones who came down from the northern part of Europe and migrated, and then in central Europe, the Ostrogoths went east and south, and the Visigoths went west and across the Straits of Gibraltar, and they had a kingdom in North Africa where they replaced the Romans who had replaced the Carthaginians.
	So the Carthaginians were white.
	They were actually Canaanites from the Phoenicians.
	And then, of course, the Romans defeated them in their rivalry for control of the Mediterranean commercial routes.
	And then the Visigoths came down.
	And so that's why there are so many whites in North Africa.
	That's why there are still white Berbers.
	They may have intermingled, but there are a lot of light-skinned people in North Africa that may or may not have some African heritage in them, but Sub-Saharan are those that are south of the Sahara, as you all know, and they tend to be...
	Well, actually, they were invaded by Europeans for their minerals.
	Anyhow, that's another part of...
	Human history, that's very, very complex.
	And I don't pretend to be a master of it.
	I just know a little bit about what happened to Dag Hammarskjold in South Africa.
	And anybody who has a chance on BitChute, if it's still there, look for cold case Dag Hammarskjold.
	And the concluding statement by one of the white men is that if the Africans had been left alone and weren't exploited, They might have had a better life.
	Dag Hammarskjell was head of the UN Secretary General at the time that he was murdered by the CIA, the Belgians and the British.
	And his belief was that Africa should be for the Africans and the Europeans have their own continent where they can develop their wealth.
	Hey, I want to thank you all, Paul, Mike, Brian, for calling in.
	John, of course, and Leila, delighted to have you here.
	Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about.
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	Thank you, Leila.
	Adios, amigos.

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