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Truth vs. NEW$, Inc Part 1 (14 October 2024) with Don Grahn, Victor-Hugo Vaca, and Brian Davidson
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Welcome to Truth vs.
News on this 14th day of October 2024, where we're delighted to be joined by Victor Hugo Baca from the Republican Georgia on the border with Russia, and Brian Davidson, private investigator from Houston.
Don Grombs, when inhibited by difficulty with his computer, we anticipate he will be joining us shortly.
In the meanwhile, we begin with a report that Biden and Netanyahu are close to a consensus on attacking Iran.
Yeah, you heard it right.
Attacking Iran. The report, citing U.S. and Israeli officials, said the U.S. had accepted Israel as going to launch a major attack, as only concerns striking certain types of targets, could dramatically escalate those types of targets, no doubt. Iranian oil reserves and their nuclear facilities, no doubt that's what they're about.
As we may or may not have previously reported, Russia notified Iran a few days ago that four F-35s were headed across the Persian Gulf to attack it.
No doubt those same type facilities, and because they'd been notified, they turned around and scuttled back to Israel.
But they're very concerned about the accuracy of the Iranian attack, where they fired nearly 200 ballistic missiles last week in response to a string of Israeli escalations, including the assassination of Amrath political chief, Ishmael Hanyai in Tehran.
Immediately after, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said the U.S. would work with Israel to ensure Iran suffers severe consequences for why the United States should be making such a declaration is boggles the mind.
Meanwhile, the Pentagon has confirmed the deployment of U.S. troops to Israel.
Netanyahu is as close as he's ever been to his ultimate wish, making the U.S. fight Iran on Israel's behalf.
Not for nothing is the Israeli national anthem said to be onward, Christian soldiers.
Major General Rafat Reuter, press secretary for the DOD, said that at President Biden's direction, the Pentagon had approved the deployment of a terminal high-altitude area defense, THAAD, battery, and associated crew to Israel to help bolster Israel's air defenses.
The THAAD battery will augment Israel's integrated air defense system, which has proven itself helpless to stop hypersonic missiles fired by Iran.
It's not clear when the U.S. troops are set to arrive.
Well, I'll tell you, no doubt they're already there.
The U.S. currently has around 40,000 soldiers stationed in the Mideast, all of whom are becoming targets by the United States assisting Israel in its defense.
In opposition to Iran.
We have heard the argument from journalist Seema's Malik Hazai that U.S. deployment of troops in the THAAD system show the Israelis are clearly planning something for Iran that's going to cause a retaliation they know their own systems are unable to take.
U.S. troops being deployed to Israel in this manner is seismic.
U.S. military is now inextricably involved in this war directly, with no illusion of barriers.
Netanyahu is as close as he's ever been to his ultimate wish, making the U.S. fight Iran on Israel's behalf.
The cabinet met to discuss a potential response on Thursday, an unnamed source that no major decisions had been made, but Biden has said U.S. and Israeli officials were discussing the possibility of an attack on Iranian oil infrastructure.
Iran has warned that attacks on their oil structure would lead to Iran's attack on the oil structures of the Middle East generally, to make oil supplies for the West utterly unavailable only at phenomenal expense.
Iran has warned of a crushing response to any new Israeli attack.
Multiple progressive representatives have objected that military force will not solve the challenge posed by Iran.
We need meaningful de-escalation and diplomacy, not a wider war.
Nothing in current law authorizes the United States to conduct offensive military action against Iran.
We risk becoming entangled in another catastrophic war that will inevitably harm innocent civilians and may cost billions more of U.S. taxpayer money.
Meanwhile, Scott Ritter discusses what's going on here.
Scott is extremely good, the best.
Welcome to another show.
What you believe might happen here, because Iran has made it very clear that any strike will be met with retaliation, and the talks about potential nuclear sites, oil sites, etc., that there will be equal counters to those as well.
So I'm curious of what you think may happen in these hours and days to come.
Well, first of all, I think that Israel is probably going to attack Iran.
A period of time up until this morning, or I guess yesterday, that I thought that Netanyahu might be playing a game of putting pressure on the Biden administration to get as many concessions out of the Biden administration as possible, following through on his gambit back in July to come to the United States, talk to the United States Congress, wrap himself in the American flag.
And the Biden administration was putting a pretty, you know, substantial package on the table, basically saying, the sky's the limit on military equipment you'll never want.
And we will back you, you know, till hell freezes over diplomatically.
You'll never have to worry about Anything out of the United Nations and America will seek to quash anything that happens in the International Court of Justice, International Criminal Court.
We've got your back.
Just don't strike Iran.
I think basically what we're saying is don't strike the critical nuclear sites or oil sites in Iran.
Somehow we keep saying it's okay for proportional because here's the problem.
We don't think Iran's going to follow through.
We think that if Israel does a proportional response, that somehow we'll be able to convince Iran to do a proportional response to the proportional response and manage the escalation ladder.
Because our goal is to, our goal being the United States, the Biden administration, is to prevent A major global crisis in the lead-up to a critical national election, where the legacy of the Biden administration is on the ballot.
Kamala Harris is to be the successor of the Biden presidency.
One would think that the Biden administration wants her to win, and so that they are going to do that which is necessary to prevent The kind of crises that could derail the Harris election.
One of the big crises that could do that would be a global economic meltdown triggered by energy insecurities, triggered by a regional conflict that put energy production facilities in the entire Middle East at risk.
Iran has said that if its oil production sites are hit, it will take out the oil production sites of all the Middle East oil producing countries.
That's that. They've also said that if you strike our nuclear facilities, this is an existential thing.
And here's the story that I think most people are missing right now.
Iran has said that if Israel attacks it, Iran is going to hit Israel with 1,000 missiles, 2,000 missiles.
And they're going to take out over $100 billion of pre-designated infrastructure targets, which they've already identified.
Basically, Iran is going to turn out the lights permanently in Israel, prevent Israel from having fresh running water, disrupt communications, energy distribution, energy production.
Israel will be returned to the Stone Age.
That's Iran's promise.
Somehow Israel and the United States believe Iran is bluffing because that represents an existential threat to Israel, and Israel's existential response is the Samson option, is nuclear weapons.
The other thing is when people talk about striking nuclear facilities, understand that the other thing Iran has said is that if you do this, we're going nuclear.
And they mean it.
In fact, I think the big news here is that we've seen since May of this year, three major statements made by very senior people within the Iranian government that suggest, or do more than suggest, state that the fatwa that is currently in place that prohibits Iran from developing weapons of mass destruction,
including nuclear weapons, because it's inconsistent with the teachings of Islam, that fatwa could be changed if Islam itself is placed under threat, and Iran is an Islamic Republic.
the rule of the senior jurisprudence is the methodology that they have embraced.
It's a theocracy. And Israel's attacking it, attacking nuclear infrastructure is deemed as an attack against the existential survival of the Islamic Republic.
And therefore, this futawa would be reversed.
Now, if you study declaratory policy, and that's basically what this is, this is, you know, statements made by government officials that have the effect of saying, this is our policy, void of, in lieu of any official document being published.
You don't make declaratory policy in a vacuum.
It's usually accompanied by actions that give teeth to this policy.
And so if Iran is going to say that the fatwa is going to be reversed, and if that's going to have any meaning, that means Iran needs to be on the cusp of being able to produce a nuclear weapon.
The first statement made in this regard was made in May.
By a former Iranian foreign minister under Khatami, who is now a member of the Expediency Discernment Council, which is a very senior policy advisory committee mandated by constitution, advises the supreme leader on critical issues.
And this former foreign minister said that, you know, Iran will reconsider its nuclear policy, this fatwa could be reversed.
Later on, I think last month, a very senior member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Command said the same thing.
He basically said, you know, we will make nuclear weapons, that this fatwa will be reversed.
Now you have the Iranian parliament actually saying, reverse the fatwa, and we must make nuclear weapons if Israel strikes us.
All of this is linked because none of this happens without the supreme leader giving his blessing.
You do not get to speak on behalf of the supreme leader in Iran.
You don't get to question his fatwas, suggest they be changed publicly.
So for these people to speak, a decision has been made, which means Iran has already had this conversation and the conversation, the decision has been made.
If Iran is going to produce nuclear weapons, they can't do it in a manner which requires long lead time.
It has to be able to be acted upon instantly, which means they front-loaded the system.
That means that Iran has produced a nuclear device minus the fissile core.
Now, they don't have. I know there's questions.
People say, what about that nuclear weapons test that took place in Iran?
I was going to ask you about that, yeah.
I don't think it's a nuclear weapons test for a number of reasons.
One, the depth of the explosion exceeds by order of magnitude the depth that you normally have these underground tests.
Normally, you'll do it at 600, 800, maybe a kilometer down.
This was, I think, what, 7.7 kilometers down or 7.7 miles down.
It was far deeper. Logistics of that to dig that borehole size enough to create the cavern has to be of specific size dimensions.
You want to put, you know, if you're going to do a test that you need to test things, that means you have to get the instruments down there.
How do you get instruments down there and do this?
And how do you do all that with it being detect without it being detected?
So I, you know, I don't think so.
Plus, the biggest problem is the diversion of the enriched uranium material.
Right now, Iran has a significant stockpile of uranium hexafluoride, which is the feedstock to the centrifuges that enrich uranium.
They have a significant stockpile of it enriched to 60%.
The IAEA a while back said that this is enough for three to five bombs.
There might even be more material now because Iran hasn't stopped the production of this.
Iran has specially configured centrifuges that can turn that 60% into 96 to 98% in a very short period of time.
These are modern centrifuges, highly efficient, and it will be done almost instantly.
And Iran, because they are producing uranium metal, they turn the enriched the 60% into uranium metal.
They make metal plates, which is the fuel for the Tehran research reactor.
So they can convert this into metal very easily.
And once you convert uranium into metal, The Uranians are pretty smart with calculations.
You can do very simple calculations on how much uranium of a certain enrichment is required to go critical.
You do the calculations of a gun design.
Gun design is basically you take a chunk of uranium, you remove a pit, and you fire it like a gun.
Boom! Enter in the impact into it causes it to go critical and then you get go fission that was basically the the bomb that was used I think was the little boy bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima was a gun design uranium gun design weapon achieved 15 kilotons and Maybe the Iranians will be able to get you know 20 25 kilotons out of a gun design but they can take a gun design put it on a warhead and deliver that warhead to Israel and And
I think right now, Iran has the missiles capable of carrying this bomb.
This device has been built.
It's not sophisticated.
It has been built, and all that's needed is to insert the fizz-on material, and you've got a weapon.
That decision's been made.
They've already done it. They're front-loaded.
So here's the news flash.
Iran is a nuclear weapons power.
Now, this changes everything.
This changes absolutely everything, because now if Israel uses nuclear weapons, because to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, especially facilities like the Firdos facility, it is dug into a mountain, literally dug into a mountain.
And you cannot take this out using conventional weapons, especially any that Israel has.
In order to take this out, you'll have to use nuclear weapons.
This is why Donald Trump, and again, I'm taking this on a different tangent, but Donald Trump recently made some comments about, you want to hit the nuclear.
That's the good stuff.
That's what you want to do.
Understand that when he said that, what is he saying?
Because Donald Trump, again, most Americans don't reflect on this.
When he was president, he changed America's nuclear posture and the American nuclear employment plan.
And he allowed two new categories of weapons to be built, specifically for the purpose of taking out the Firdos underground nuclear facility in Iran.
Because either we were going to have to hit Iran with a, you know, 700 kiloton weapon or 150 kiloton weapon, which is a huge thing and, you know, the consequences of that, you can't even, or we usually call a usable nuke.
Two weapons were designed.
One was a variant of the B61 gravity bomb that we have, and we built a B61 that is a bunker buster, a penetrator, so it's able to burrow into the ground before it goes off and creates the compression that can do it.
This bomb specifically was designed and built for hitting Iran.
And Donald Trump knows this because he's the one that put it into play and made it part of our nuclear employment plan.
He's the one that knows that one of the option cards that the president will get when the suitcase is opened up is, you know, to send B-2 bombers equipped with B-61 bombs to strike Firdos.
He's the one to put it in place.
And so when he says, we got to hit the nuclear, it's the good stuff, he knows what that means.
It's a B-2 bomber with a B-61 bomb hitting Firdos, probably two bombs because you always go for redundancy.
Or it's a W76-2 low-yield nuclear weapon fired off of a Trident submarine that will again come in and hit.
Again, designed to do exactly that, give the President options.
So here we have the President of the United States actively saying to Israel, use nukes against Iran, because he knows that we can't destroy it without nukes, and so Israel would have to use nuclear weapons to destroy it.
So he's encouraging Israel to use nuclear weapons against Iran.
Iran is aware of this, which is why Iran has come out and said, we have nuclear weapons.
Now, they haven't said that straight up, we have nuclear weapons, but I've worked with the Israelis back in the 1990s.
I'm familiar with their analytical processes and how they extrapolate things, how they think into it, and I can guarantee you they have analysts right now who are saying the exact same thing.
Mr. Prime Minister, Iran has nuclear weapons.
And if we continue with this policy, Iran will use these nuclear weapons against us.
Our calculations are that 3 to 5, 15 to 20 kiloton devices will eliminate Israel.
And as Iran proved in Operation True Promise 2, they can deliver the missiles that will hit any part in Israel they want to, any time they want to hit it, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
If you attack Iran, Mr.
President, we are destroying Israel forever.
That's the discussions that are taking place right now.
We are at a very serious moment in world history right now, where Israel is playing stupid games.
Benjamin Netanyahu is literally gambling the lives of over a hundred million people, because that will be the casualties.
I know Israel is 12 million, but when you talk about the damage that will take place, over a hundred million people will be killed by a nuclear conflict between Israel and Iran.
You know, and this is what we're talking about, but nobody's talking about it right now.
We have a president joking about going, you know, hitting the nuclear.
We have a prime minister who's calling the bluff of the United States, and we know we call it the bluff because, again, Biden put some really good stuff on the table, but just yesterday, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, I believe it was yesterday, it might have been this morning, I don't know, I'm getting tired, but she basically said, She said the United States is supporting two resolutions, one calling for the immediate provision of humanitarian aid, the other one calling for a ceasefire that the United States is blocked.
She is blocked. She is on record saying these are horrible resolutions.
America could never support this stuff.
And suddenly she has to eat crow and read her instructions from the State Department.
Why? Because Joe Biden had a 30-minute conversation with Benjamin Netanyahu, reading him the riot act, and Netanyahu told him to pound sand.
He said, no, we are attacking.
And so, Biden now is trying to put pressure on Israel, demonstrating that the United States won't have your back.
Now, Israel has to calculate this, but Detanyahu is desperate right now.
He's failing in Gaza.
I mean, how many times is Israel going to have to go in and clean out Gaza.
I mean, they now have to go into the northern part of Gaza again.
Why? Because Hamas hasn't been defeated.
They're there. They're resisting.
They're killing Israelis. They're firing rockets into Israel.
This is over a year into this war, and Israel hasn't defeated Hamas.
They will never defeat Hamas.
And in Hezbollah right now, you know, Israel is making some propaganda videos on the periphery, but every time they penetrate deep, they get hit hard by Hezbollah.
They get, you know, they're getting knocked out.
And now Iran.
If they bomb Iran, it is the end of Israel.
Literally. Israel will be turned into the Stone Age, and this will trigger an Israeli nuclear response, which will trigger an Iranian nuclear response.
That's where we're at right now.
It's no joke. Welcome to another...
And let me say, remember that...
Israel is a little postage-sized country.
Iran is 78 times larger.
Iran could absorb nuclear strikes that Israel cannot.
So when Scott Pritter explains what's really going on, and this is by far the longest clip we've ever played on this show because it's so terribly important to understand, and Scott Pritter understands it so well and lays it out so clearly, We're this close to a nuclear exchange that will take over a hundred million lives.
Victor Hugo, your thoughts?
I think the world is pretty much fed up with Israel at this point.
The only ones that are backing Israel are the United Slaves of Israel, and I think the United Slaves of America need to wake up because whether they get Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, it seems like they're both under the thumb of Israel.
And what the people in the United States don't seem to realize is that if Israel attacks Iran, Iran already has sleeper cells inside the United States.
So the United States is not safe and it's going to be under attack.
They've already infiltrated And again, what people don't understand is this is all by design, because Alejandro Mayorkas, who is with the synagogue of Satan, and what they're trying to do is they're trying to destroy Edom, which they see as the West.
So it's all part of the plan.
They're trying to bring back the Antichrist.
They want to rebuild the third temple.
They want actually for that temple to be destroyed.
So we are watching the United States careening off a cliff.
The rest of the world is not going to feel this impact because I can tell you, China is not going to allow Israel to destroy their ability to get oil.
Russia is not going to allow that.
The ones that are going to feel it the worst are the United States and Israel.
And the world, in my opinion, from what I'm noticing and from what I'm hearing on the ground here in this gateway country between the EU, Africa, Asia, and the Middle East is they see the United States as a terrorist state.
So right now you've got Israel seen as a terrorist state and the United States seen as a terrorist state.
Even though I'm a A veteran and an American, I can't see it any other way either.
The U.S. is involved in terrorism.
Absolutely. I think the whole world agrees.
Welcome, Don. We're glad to have you join us.
Brian, your thoughts?
Well, there was a whole lot there.
The big picture, I think, is if America loses The Western endeavors that we tried to set about in Ukraine.
And we are unable to really affect Russia.
Remember, Russia has really played a very soft position in this war.
And yet America, Western forces are still losing the war in Ukraine.
So what kind of threat is America if we can't even beat Russia in Ukraine?
Meanwhile, Russia used that event as an excuse to set up alliances with China as well as with Iran.
And they're even running joint military exercises in the Arabian Sea.
My point is this.
If America is no longer a threat...
We're going to have to flex our muscle somehow.
And I think this is what Israel is hoping that we are willing to do.
How would we flex our muscle if we show that we can't win a ground war?
We'll explode a nuke to show the world that we're still the box.
And I think Israel really wants the West to get involved in this sort of power play.
So that they can say, look, I got big brother that's got my back.
You better not mess with us anymore.
But the problem is, as they continue getting closer and closer to this terrible war, the entire Western forces could be forced out of the Middle East completely, leaving Iran or Israel bare and naked, With zero protection from Western forces whatsoever.
So we've got our CIA running every country out there in the world trying to make sure that everybody's there.
Meanwhile, BRICS is gaining more momentum every day.
I think it's only a matter of time before America's and their weak leadership.
Think about it. What do we have to gain?
By being over there involved in this crap in the Middle East.
What is it that's good for America?
It's not good for America at all.
It's good for the military-industrial complex.
It's good for the contractors that feed the politicians.
It's good for all sorts of things, but it's not good for the American interests whatsoever.
So what's the broader picture?
Oh, it's good for the New World Order to take Russia off the chessboard.
And if they can get Russia off the chessboard...
You see, that's always been the...
The chess piece that needed to fall for the New World Order to get out there and push the conflict.
But Russia's gaining steam, and they've fought the war in Ukraine very, very well.
So I think that we've got a problem right now in that Israel is goading America into exercising, flexing our muscles by We're good to
go. I think it's becoming increasingly evident that Russia, China and Iran would recognize that any attack against any single one of them would be an attack against all of them. And as that alliance continues to grow and grow and grow, they're
putting themselves in a position where it's more likely that countries are just simply going to say, Americans get out. That's going to leave Israel completely exposed. But if Israel is exposed and the attack gets too big, will America welcome Israel with open arms?
I think so, probably.
Well, Brian, I think that was just sensational.
I really like that.
I think between you and Scott Ritter, we covered a lot of bases.
Meanwhile, we have Chuck Baldwin declaring, the world now sees Israel as a genocidal apartheid state that it has always been.
This past Monday was the anniversary of the Hamas military assault against the occupation forces of Israel, and the beginning of Israel's genocidal war against Gaza, and now the West Bank and Lebanon, too.
Scott Ritter said in an interview with Judge Napolitano Monday, the world will never be the same.
What happened a year ago today has forever changed the world.
Ritter is absolutely right.
As Scott also said in that interview, the world now sees Israel as a genocidal apartheid state that it has always been.
I truly pray for Scott's safety.
Without a doubt, he's among the most courageously truthful spokesmen on the national stage today.
There's no one in America with more knowledge of the military and geopolitical affairs of the Middle East, especially Israel, than Scott Reuter.
But along with his vast knowledge and experience, he possesses lion-like courage to tell the truth about the Zionist state.
Remember, Ritter was once a solid supporter of Israel, as was I. Scott's eyes were opened to the truth of Zionist Israel via different circumstances than mine.
Well, only God can remove the scales of blindness from a man's heart, especially the strong delusion, 2 Thessalonians 2, 11, of Zionist Israel.
So I rejoice in Scott's clear vision of truth regarding the Zionist state by whatever means it came.
What Scott reported in his interview with the judge is most viewing.
I urge readers to watch the complete interview.
This column focuses on some of its salient parts.
Well, here we'll have maybe just a brief part of it.
Today is Monday, October 7th, 2024.
Scott Ritter will be with us in just a moment on the changing landscape in the Middle East.
But first this. How has the landscape in the Middle East changed in the past 365 days?
The world will never be the same.
What happened a year ago today has forever changed the world.
It's larger than simply Hamas versus Israel.
This is about part of the global realignment.
I mean, let's be honest.
The Israeli-American relationship is an unnatural relationship when it comes to the geopolitical balance.
It's at odds with the natural You know, sense of balance that exists in the Middle East.
Israel is, I was going to say, an abomination, which it is, but it's also a cancer.
It's a cancerous tumor attached to the Middle East that disrupts the natural functioning of everything, and it's sustained by its relationship with America.
What Hamas did on October 7th, 2023, is begin the process of Causing the entire world to recognize Israel for what it was.
Up until on October 6, 2023, the world was still behaving as if Israel was part of the normal It's not.
The world was behaving as if Israel could be treated as part of this global, you know, economic entity.
Joe Biden, in the summer of 2023, had promoted Israel as being a core element of what he called the Middle East, the India-Middle East-European economic corridor.
Israel was getting ready to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia.
To begin this process of regional normalization that had Israel serving as the centerpiece of this, with no talk whatsoever of a Palestinian statehood, no consideration of the Palestinians.
It was an Israeli-centric version of the Middle East, Which is part and parcel of an American-centric vision of the world.
Today, that's done. In two weeks, there's going to be a meeting in Kazan, Russia, with the BRICS, that's going to have more relevance today because of what was exposed through Hamas' attack.
The world now sees Israel as the genocidal apartheid state that it has always been, but has somehow fooled us all into believing it didn't exist.
And they see America as a nation that has totally lost touch with You know, its founding principles, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
If that's truly what America stands for, statements written by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, then why do we support a nation that commits genocide, that's an apartheid state, that thinks it's okay to kill women and children by the thousands as part of collective punishment and total disregard for international law?
We see the world standing up to Israel now for the first time and we see Israel no longer being this nation with an invincible army that has this deterrence that everybody fears.
Iran has put that to rest.
Israel now fears Iran.
There's only one nation right now in the Middle East that can destroy the other nation, and that's Iran can destroy Israel with the next missile attack.
Israel cannot destroy Iran, even if they use nuclear weapons.
This is a fundamental shift away from what it was.
The world will never be the same.
The world will never be the same.
I gotta say, that's just wonderful.
Meanwhile, Professor Mearsheimer reveals how Israel exercised total control over the U.S. foreign policy.
We'll listen to just a few minutes of this.
I would like to focus my talk on what has transpired regarding the Israel lobby and the U.S.-Israeli relationship in the 10 years since Steve Walt and I wrote The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.
My talk is comprised of four parts.
I'll begin by briefly restating the core arguments in our book.
I'll then describe four major changes that have taken place regarding the lobby and the U.S.-Israeli relationship over the past decade.
I will then describe what has not changed and conclude by speculating about the future.
The central argument in the book is that the United States has a special relationship with Israel that has no parallel in modern history, and it is almost wholly due to the lobby.
What makes Israel's relationship with the United States extraordinary is not simply the fact that Israel has received more foreign aid than any other country, Or that Washington almost always backs Israel diplomatically.
What makes it truly special is that the aid is given unconditionally.
In other words, Israel gets this aid even when it does things that the United States opposes, like building settlements in the West Bank.
This discussion raises the obvious question, why does the United States give Israel so much aid and without any conditions?
Israel's supporters sometimes argue that it is because Israel is a vital strategic asset.
This is not a serious argument.
In fact, giving Israel nearly unconditional support is one of the reasons we have a terrorism problem.
Others argue that there's a moral rationale for the special relationship.
Israel is said to be a democracy that shares our values.
The two countries certainly share some values, but Israel is a Jewish state which clearly privileges its Jewish citizens.
Non-Jews are second-class citizens in both theory and practice.
The United States, on the other hand, is a liberal democracy that works hard to treat all of its citizens equally.
It certainly is not a Christian state that treats non-Christians as second-class citizens.
Indeed, that kind of discrimination, which is part of Israel's essence, is antithetical to the American way of life.
Furthermore, Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and the occupied territories is sharply at odds with U.S. values.
Finally, there's the claim that the American people have such a favorable view of Israel that they demand their politicians back the special relationship.
This argument, however, is not persuasive.
If you look at the survey data on how the American public thinks about Israel, as Grant made clear before I spoke, there's no question that Americans have a generally favorable image of Israel, in part because media coverage tends to be favorable, But as poll after poll shows, that support is not especially deep or wide.
So what explains the special relationship if there is no strategic or moral imperative and if most Americans do not favor it?
Our answer, of course, is the lobby.
What exactly is the lobby?
Steve and I argue It's a loose coalition of individuals and groups who actively work to influence U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction.
It's not a centralized organization, and the groups that make up the lobby do not agree on every issue.
It includes organizations like AIPAC, the Anti-Defamation League, The Conference of Presidents, the Zionist Organization of America, and Christians United for Israel, just to name a few.
It also includes think tanks like YNAP and the American Enterprise Institute, and publications like the Weekly Standard and Commentary.
It certainly is not a cabal or a conspiracy that quote-unquote controls U.S. foreign policy, rather it's a powerful interest group like the NRA, the Farm Lobby, the Cuba Lobby, or the AARP, and it operates pretty much the same way those other interest groups do.
Very importantly, the lobby is not synonymous with Jewish Americans.
Surveys suggest that about a third of American Jews do not care that much about Israel, others do not support the lobby's positions, and some groups that work on Israel's behalf, such as the so-called Christian Zionists, are not Jewish.
In short, the lobby is defined by its political agenda, not by ethnicity or religion.
I think that's all sensational.
And his book, of course, about the Israeli lobby has been perhaps the single most important contribution to illuminating this aspect of American politics.
Victor Hugo, your thoughts about those further reflections by Scott Ritter and Professor Mersheim's about the lobby?
I think they're both spot on, unfortunately.
Everything that they said is considered anti-Semitic by the media that's owned by those who identify as Jews who are actually of the synagogue of Satan, let's put it that way.
And, I mean, everybody realizes that the world would be a better place without Israel, without AIPAC, but You're not allowed to say that.
You're not allowed to point out the obvious.
And until we are able to actually speak about this freely, thank you for having this forum.
That allows us to speak freely, but you're in the internet ghetto.
I mean, most people don't even watch this show.
They'll never talk this way on MSNBC, on any of the late night talk shows.
I was recently on a show that supposedly is free speech and I was speaking the way that Scott Ritter was speaking and the gentleman was speaking and The show host was quickly, like, freaked out, was like, well, you know, yes, free speech, free speech.
Meanwhile, they haven't aired the episode of my interview yet.
I'm hoping that they will, but people are starting to wake up.
I'm wondering if it's too little too late, because, again, What people don't understand is that Israel controls the US military.
And the US military is now using weather weapons.
They're using the Trump-Harris PSYOP. Whether you vote for Trump, whether you vote for Harris, you're still going to have Israel controlling both of them.
The plan is, again, it's a depopulation plan.
People don't seem to want to understand what's happening.
They're trying to kill us.
They're trying to bring the population down to 500 million people.
It's in writing. But again, there's just too many people who don't want to accept this.
It's a harsh reality.
And what I see happening in the United States is the sleeper cells.
That's where, again, this was allowed by Alejandro Mayorkas.
You've got to look at all the people who are running D.C., Blinken, Yellen, Merrick Garland.
All the people that are surrounding not only Biden but also Trump and even before Trump with all the presidents.
How we got into World War I and how we got into World War II. It's always been the synagogue of Satan.
But again, you're not allowed to say it because it's anti-Semitic.
They control the media.
And it's a real shame because I don't think it's going to be the end of the world.
But a lot of people, at least where I am in this area, they don't see a future for Israel.
Everybody's just pretty much fed up.
Essentially, the metaphor is a husband who's cheating on his wife, and the wife knows it, and then the husband shows up to the granddaughter's birthday party with this mistress.
And at that point, the wife is like, you know what, I've had enough.
And it's over.
And Israel has become so brazen That what they're doing right now is clearly showing, like what Scott Ritter said, that it's a bunch of psychopaths that are being enabled by the psychopaths in the United States.
So unfortunately, the United States is going to go down because it supported the wrong team.
Israel is...
The wrong side to be supported.
They should have been on Russia's side when Russia said, hey, listen, let's be united.
But as Putin told Tucker Carlson, Bill Clinton said, my guys said no.
And of course his guys were the Jews.
I couldn't agree more, Brian.
Your thoughts? Who are the Jews and what do they want from a global, large-scale perspective?
Let's go way back in time.
You mentioned World War I. You mentioned World War II. We can go back as far as we can go.
Israel has always been that dark voice trying to set ablaze the peaceful situation because of their mentality about who they are versus who the rest of the world really is.
They think they were born to run and control the world.
Here's a quote from Voltaire.
The Jewish nation shows an irreconcilable hatred against all nations.
It revolts against all masters.
It's always superstitious, always greedy of the well-being enjoyed by others, always a barbarous and cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity.
Well, the Jews think of themselves pretty special.
I'm going to give you a second quote here.
Speaking of Zionism, which started World War I and World War II, this great, well, this leader said, it doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there.
All they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states.
A haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
You know who said that?
Adolf Hitler.
1923. Wow.
Hey, by the way, I don't know if you guys are familiar with the Kol Nidre prayer.
Just this past weekend was Yom Kippur.
Realize anybody who trusts, and again, anybody who self-identifies as a Jew that celebrates Yom Kippur and they say the Kol Nidre prayer, realize the Kol Nidre prayer allows these people to absolve themselves, to wash their hands of any contract, any vow, Any anathema or any promise made with any non-Jew.
So how can you actually come even into a contract with these people when once a year on Yom Kippur they get to say the Kol Nidre prayer and in the Talmud it states that Jews may use lies to circumvent the non-Jews.
So right off the bat these people and then There's also, I just saw a report, I'm getting ready to do it, where they have demons in the rabbinical council, and they say that the demons are okay, and that demons, again, they use lies.
And this is in the Talmud.
I'm going to play a report on that from actually Jews who laugh about it.
They're like, yeah, yeah, we summon demons, and they're cool with us, you know?
So... Yeah, the game is rigged, and how do you negotiate with people like that?
You know what I'm saying? How do you negotiate with someone who says, you know what, constantly having their fingers crossed when they make a promise with you?
The game is rigged. They print out money out of nothing.
Again, of course they can afford to bribe and blackmail everybody.
They print the money out of nothing.
Well, they use our money to bribe our own politicians and control our own government.
Wonderful point, Victor Hugo.
Meanwhile Douglas MacGregor unleashes.
Israel and U.S. heading for a showdown with Iran and Russia?
Nuclear war?
Let's hear what the Colonel has to say.
He and Scott Ritter are in my estimation the two preeminent experts.
The two preeminent experts.
For some reason, I'm having trouble finding my cursor.
Here we go. Did the White House encourage the Israeli government to invade southern Lebanon?
It would appear that they have.
That seems to be widespread consensus.
Nothing is happening that Washington has not wanted to happen.
And that makes perfect sense, Judge, for the reasons I just outlined.
We control all the resources, and we have access to and dispose over very considerable sensitive technologies.
So if we don't want something to happen, it's not going to happen.
And anything that does happen, happens because we've allowed it.
But by what constitutional or moral standard do we wage war against Hezbollah.
We have a declared war in Hezbollah.
It poses no threat whatsoever to the United States.
We don't have a treaty of alliance with Israel.
I'm wearing my constitutional scholar hat.
Well, we're in a strange set of relations with Israel that are analogous to some extent to FDR's relations with the British Empire and the Soviet Union before World War II. Very few people are aware that FDR dispatched Harry Hopkins to Moscow in July of 1941 to offer Stalin virtually anything he wanted and anything he needed.
And we of course were not at war with Germany.
The bombing at Pearl Harbor had not yet happened.
We had a war ongoing for almost two and a half years trying to provoke the Germans into attacking our warships when we actively aided the British and Canadian navies in moving supplies to Great Britain.
So this is a similar set of circumstances.
And I think it also has potentially very grave consequences for us.
But as you point out, none of this is constitutional.
But very little of what FDR did was constitutional.
So I don't think anyone is remotely interested in discussing constitutional law at the moment.
What will the consequences to us be?
Will it be Russia coming to the aid of Iran?
Will it be American boys coming home in body bags?
Well, I think we have to reckon with some losses in the Middle East.
I don't see how we avoid them.
We know that we've had losses in Ukraine.
It's simply being decided not to report those publicly and to dismiss the allegation that Americans have been killed in Ukraine by finding cover stories for them, dying in other settings, other places, particularly in the United States.
I think things in the Middle East will be different.
It'll be harder to provide those cover stories.
And the reason is very simple.
This ruthless war of extermination is going to be confronted soon by overwhelming deadly force provided first and foremost by Iran, also augmented and extended by Russia, and I would argue eventually the rest of the Islamic world.
But we've always said this, and you, Judge, have had these discussions with others on your show.
No one in the region wants a war with Israel in the United States.
The only people that are interested in a war in the region consist of Israel and primarily us.
That's it. No one else really wants a war.
And this has now attracted...
The attention of everyone in the Islamic world.
We've been listening to lots of harumphs and threats, most of which have gone nowhere from Turkey, but that is changing now, and the Turks are making it very clear that the catastrophic destruction of Lebanon is not something they're going to stand by and tolerate.
They've got three or four million refugees on their territory at the moment.
They can't take any more.
A million people have left Lebanon.
More than 7,000 people in Lebanon have been killed, and these are hardly Hezbollah fighters.
All of this is coming together.
We're seeing action in Iraq, action in Syria, action in Yemen and Egypt, and Jordan continue to reach a boiling point.
Precisely when that will boil over and change the governments, as anyone's guess, But I think that's inevitable.
So we're on the march to a regional war that always has the potential to go global.
The Russians are well prepared to fight now.
They're stronger militarily than they have been in 30 years.
And the same thing is true, unfortunately, with China.
The Chinese don't want any sort of confrontation.
And they're undoubtedly sweating bullets over the Straits of Hormuz.
But the Israelis are determined to hit those Iranian oil facilities And I think we're going to see that once that occurs, it will bring in the rest of the actors who are actively opposed to Israel.
Tell me about Jordan.
The population of Jordan cannot be in sync with the king.
The king used the Jordanian military to help Israel defend itself the other night, I guess it was last night, Israel time, when Iran sent 200 missiles there.
I'll ask you about the missiles in a minute.
But is the king of Jordan on thin ice because of the overwhelming, nearly unanimous view of the public over which he claims to reign that Israel is the enemy?
Yes, well remember the majority of the people serving in the Jordanian army tend to be Bedouin in origin.
In other words, people from Bedouin origins much like the king himself.
But he's got 11.2 million Palestinians living in Jordan.
And they are very anxious to help their brothers on the West Bank and in Gaza.
So they're fuming.
When does this change?
I know that the Iranians undoubtedly have agents on the ground in Jordan, probably pushing levers there in the hopes that the Jordanians will rise up, push the government out of business, and take the reins of power themselves.
I'd be very surprised if that was not also the case in Egypt.
In both cases, however, Both sovereign leaders are entirely dependent upon the military.
As long as the military does not take them into custody, remove them, assassinate them, they will stay.
The question is, where does the military stand at this point?
I know from first-hand discussions, people just returning from Egypt, that the Egyptian military is ashamed of themselves and embarrassed that they are doing nothing against Israel.
I suspect you have a similar attitude in Jordan.
Chris, do we have the clip, it's not on today's list, but do you still have the clip of King Abdullah of Jordan addressing the United Nations?
Well, there's more to it, of course, but Colonel McGregor is masterful in delineating the big picture.
Victor Hugo, your thoughts?
I think I feel very sad for the...
American soldiers who are basically being sent to slaughter.
They're sitting ducks.
Those aircraft carriers are seen as white elephants by China and Russia who were sold secrets by the United States' supposed best ally, Israel.
So the Chinese actually built reproductions of US aircraft carriers in China.
And they know exactly how to destroy them.
They've already shown that.
I think it was the Houthis actually sent missiles that attacked the aircraft carrier with a drone strike and it had to cripple its way out of the Middle East.
And the only reason they let it stand was because they wanted to show the U.S. that the aircraft carriers are not invincible.
Also, the aircraft carriers could be taken out, as was shown years ago, with electromagnetic forces.
They crippled the aircraft carriers.
It was an embarrassment back then.
They did it to two ships.
And, yeah, I mean, they also have the hypersonic missiles.
So those aircraft carriers, those people, they're all just sitting ducks, not to mention the fact that With the mandates of the bioweapons disguised as vaccines that were created by DARPA and the US military was forced to take this stuff.
The Russians and the Chinese know exactly where every single soldier's position because of the nanotech that's in there.
So even if they try to do a ground war against Russia or against China or anywhere in the Middle East, they're sitting ducks with that too.
The Americans don't seem to realize is the enemy is within.
They're traitors, not only in the Pentagon, in the White House, in the Senate, in the Congress, but also at the highest levels of the U.S. military.
The aim is to destroy the United States.
And this has been for a long time coming.
This is an insidious plan.
And so, like Brian was saying earlier, this isn't something that's just occurred.
These people have wanted to destroy Edom.
They see the West as Edom.
And again, this is in order to bring about prophecy.
These people are psychopaths.
They want to bring back the Antichrist so that they can each have 2,800 slaves and Until people wake up and realize that, I mean, people are seeing it already in the United States.
The military's not there to help the people in North Carolina.
BlackRock's coming in and taking over everything because, again, who is on the board of directors of BlackRock?
It's not the Amish.
It's not the Jehovah's Witnesses.
It's people who self-identify as Jews.
But again, we're not allowed to talk about that.
I keep talking about it because we have to name the enemy.
And I have people who were saying, oh, well, you know, it's not the Jews.
It's not all the Jews. Yes, I understand.
It's not all the Jews. But we got to start with the ones that we're not allowed to talk about.
And until they get rid of these anti-Semitism laws that Trump says on his first day, he's going to get in and he's going to make it illegal to say the things that I'm saying.
That's why I'm not heading back to the United States, because the thing is, it's like, yes, Scott Ritter is taking a chance.
And he's telling the truth, and so they're making the truth illegal now in the United States.
It's a big problem.
And these sleeper cells are not going away.
As soon as they get the word, boom, they're activated.
So now you got the U.S. military attacking its own people with weather weapons, and they know that these sleeper cells are there.
They know exactly where they're at.
But again, it's all part of the plan.
They want to destroy the Constitutional Republic.
It's a shame. And if those are Trump's first acts, they'll be found unconstitutional.
There's no question about it.
He's making outrageous suggestions that would never survive critical judicial scrutiny.
Brian, your thoughts?
Well, Donald Trump is going to be an interesting character to evaluate.
Our elections here are, what, three weeks away.
And I think it's a very important component of trying to figure out what's going to go on.
What we were talking about here in general was, is the United States going to deploy its own troops slash assets into the Middle East and help Israel defend itself slash fight its war?
And it's not really even defending itself as much as it is helping them to...
Enhance their interests.
But the problem comes with Donald Trump, not necessarily with Harris and Biden in terms of whatever the White House currently is and whoever is in control of it.
Now, Donald Trump is an anti-war type of guy claiming to be capable of negotiating ourselves out of all these wars.
But on the other hand, when you ally yourself with His wife, actually.
Bob Iger, George Roth.
These are some of the greatest donators to his campaign.
And we know the things that he's said in front of the different Israeli lobbies in terms of, I will always support Israel.
I will always back Israel.
There's nothing that he has ever said that indicated that he's going to take some sort of temperate approach to this.
But you can go down...
Entire campaign funding...
This mechanism is Jewish, and it was that way back in 2016 as well.
So it's only gotten worse since around October 7th in terms of the Jews appearing to have total control of Donald Trump.
And so will we send troops in?
I don't know. Donald Trump is a bit of a mystery in terms of how he's going to do this.
How are you going to negotiate yourself out of this mess if Everybody starts lofting bigger and bigger bombs and more and more of them across borders over there in the Middle East.
What's going to happen is everybody's going to get angry, upset.
Prices are going to rise.
Donald Trump's economy is not going to prosper like he would advertise that it would.
The whole world will fall apart and basically the Americans will be kicked out of the Middle East and the Israelite Israelis will follow shortly thereafter.
What will the world look like in five or ten years without America having the same political clout and power in the Middle East?
We're going to have to show that we're still the big dog.
So I think there's going to be a big bomb and it's going to come from America and it's going to be a message to the whole world that we're still the boss.
Those are great questions.
I worry not five years from now.
I worry five weeks from now.
Don, that concludes our first hour.
Take us out. Oh, boy.
What a day. What a show this is here on the 14th of October, Columbus Day and things.
What would Columbus say if he came to America now and saw the beautiful structures we have, but looking at the politics and the world, Well, I think it's better off.
We're probably more primitive now than then.
Anyway, thanks so much for watching this first hour.
And we're going to come back with another second hour.
It's going to be even heavier.
I mean, this is heavy stuff, folks.
We're right on the cusp of what?
We'll find out in the second hour.
So come on back. Thank you so much for watching, folks.
Yeah, peace. That's what we need.
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