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Sept. 23, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (23 Sept 2024) w Keith Rodgers and guests Casey Whalen, Sam Bushman, & Sheriff Mack
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So I'm backing up now to repeat a part of what I said before.
Russia has been slamming NATO's reckless rejection of Putin's red lines.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated Wednesday dismissing Putin's warnings about the danger of Ukraine using Western weapons as both provocative and perilous.
Lavrov has explained this is not a joke.
There have been many red lines declared by him before he has not escalated, meaning involving NATO allies directly in the complex and Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg in dismissing it.
Claiming even he supports the UK and France in their decision to lift restrictions.
Now, this was back on the 4th.
Meanwhile, NATO's secret headquarters, and this is new now, has been destroyed in Kiev.
A massive blow was inflicted across many different targets.
Very, very significant.
Russia has even sunk a NATO ship full of ballistic and cruise missiles intended for Ukraine.
We have Scott Ritter talking about what's going on here and that this should not be ignored.
Russian bread lines.
There was a meeting last week at the White House between the British Prime Minister Starmer and President Joe Biden, sometimes known as Collective Biden, in which this topic was discussed, where the agreement beforehand between the United States and the UK was that they did want to move in the direction of using those NATO missiles, but that it had to be further
organized, pushed internationally, and that they expected to have some announcements in the course of the upcoming UNGA, United Nations General Assembly meeting next week.
In particular, there is scheduled to be a meeting on Thursday, September 26, between President Biden and Zelensky of Ukraine, where Zelensky is scheduled to present his victory plan, quote unquote, which includes emphatically The use of long-range precision-guided missiles shot from Ukrainian territory deep into Russian territory.
And I want to emphasize just for starters, and this really is one of four major points that I want to address in my brief opening remarks, that what we are talking about here in terms of the danger of war The aspect of the long range of the missiles has, which is important, has often been emphasized while not taking account of the fact that the precision guidance is perhaps the most significant feature.
That is to say, these things cannot fly past, through, around, under, and over Russian air defense systems without real time, highly sophisticated guidance available only through the United States and other NATO assets, in particular, American satellites.
And therefore, when you're talking about, quote, unquote, permitting the Ukrainians to shoot these things off, you're talking about this being the decisions being made on the guidance and on the missions themselves, not in Ukraine, but in London and Washington.
I think that's exactly right.
Yeah, we have further reports about both Lebanon and Russia.
World War III update.
Day X approaches.
It's going to be a wild week.
In the last 48 hours, a massive ordinance was dropped in southern Lebanon that some people suspect was a nuclear weapon.
I'm here to assure you that it was not.
Accompanied by hundreds of other airstrikes on different targets in southern Lebanon that didn't seem to have a whole lot of effect, to be honest, there was this massive explosion That was caught on film, and it was rumored to be a tactical nuclear strike.
Number one, the explosion just simply isn't big enough.
The flash of light that occurs beforehand is not big enough.
If they were to have detonated this so close to the southern Lebanese and Israeli border, there would have been massive radioactive blowback, and you would be able to measure it because, of course, in a ground-based detonation, there's a lot more radioactive fallout.
And to do something on the eve Of the United Nations Security Council meeting and so early, so nascent in the conflict, would be considered unconscionable even for Israel.
So no, this was not a nuclear detonation, but perhaps the speculation surrounding it is a harbinger for what is most certainly to come.
Now, as I said, this had very little effect on Hezbollah's capabilities.
Israel has been shown a lot of success in terms of their covert assassination capabilities.
The Pager attack, which the jury is still out on the extent and how that exactly happened.
I have some more information to share on that today.
But also, you know, they've been very good in terms of their precision strikes on the upper echelons of the Radwan force and Hezbollah in particular.
But when it comes to having a conventional war with Lebanon, I have a sneaking suspicion that they're going to get their ass kicked.
World War 3 update.
Yep, indeed, a sneaking suspicion.
Meanwhile, Pauline Blunt is warning any attacks with Russia would be treated as an act of war NATO blipped.
This is recent, where three Russian subs were put out, and they explained that if these British Storm Shadow missiles were to be used against Russia, that they would take out the three locations in the United Kingdom where they were manufactured.
Meanwhile, Russia has very generously Opened its borders to those who want to escape what they're describing as destructive neoliberalism.
Dissidents from named states can now petition Moscow for residency, enlisting 47 nations.
Putin signed a decree last month allowing foreigners who share Russia's traditional values and disagree with the neoliberal agenda may apply for residency.
The nations include Australia, Austria, Albania,
Andorra, the Bahamas, Belgium, Bulgaria, the UK, Germany, Greece, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Italy, Canada, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Micronesia, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Romania, San Marino, North Macedonia, Singapore, the U.S., Taiwan,
Territory of China, Ukraine, Finland, France, Croatia, Montenegro and the Czech Republic, Switzerland, Sweden, Estonia and Japan.
Notably absent are EU and NATO members Slovakia and Hungary, as well as Turkey.
Most of the designated countries previously made the register of unfriendly governments.
The states on that blacklist are subject to Russian diplomatic and economic countermeasures.
Russia is now offering the world a safe haven of normalcy.
The edict, according to the edict, Nationals of destructive neoliberal countries are eligible to seek temporary residence in Russia without having to satisfy the standard immigration requirements such as national quotas, Russian language proficiency, and knowledge of Russian history and laws.
Casey, Waylon, I'm delighted to have you here, my friend.
Keith's also here.
I like your comments initially on what's going on.
We do have reports that there are attacks across Russia, which I've yet to be able to confirm, but suspect are probably accurate.
In any case, your thoughts about all of the above.
Who do you want first?
Casey.
Go get Casey.
Okay, well thanks.
I missed a lot of what you were reporting on there, but I kind of get the gist of it.
Yeah, we're all kind of watching and waiting to see what happens, I guess, especially with what's going on in Israel and the recent attacks in Lebanon.
It's wars everywhere, it seems like.
Rumors of war.
So it's just very interesting times.
And I'm just kind of watching like you are, just waiting to see what happens.
I don't really have a lot to comment on this topic, honestly.
Go ahead, my friend.
Now, who'd you say that to?
Keith.
I should reverse order.
Go ahead, my friend.
Now, who did you say that to?
Keith.
All right.
All right.
Let's pick up first from Lebanon and the pagers and stuff.
I don't know if most people realize this, but the European Union does list Hezbollah on their terrorist list.
However, there's like 15 different organizations within Hezbollah that are all civilians.
And Israel may have thought they made something with the pagers and the radios, but they didn't because that was all civilian.
That was your police.
That was your hospital staffing.
That's who they targeted.
As Alistair Crook mentions, that Hezbollah went to fiber optics years ago, so they're not even on that system like that.
They have secured communications.
So Israel and its normal terrorism is just trying to escalate the problem up.
I do want to laugh at one thing.
I've always kind of laughed at this Canadian prepper there.
He always has a doom and gloom, which I assume is correct to most of the part there, but When he always talks about his prepping and stuff, I always wonder, does he realize that those same psychopaths that are in charge are the same ones that, if he survives, that he's going to be left with?
Because he'll survive with them, and he'll have the same psychopaths.
But anyway, you're right, Jim.
We've got a break, and when we return, we'll be joined by Sheriff Mack.
But I want more of your commentary.
Stand by.
We'll be right back.
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Well, Keith, you're making some excellent points about the sophistication of Hezbollah and that they weren't relating to those pagers, but they're rather social workers, health workers, civilians galore.
That's just stunning.
Please elaborate.
You'll notice in all the photos there's a lot of cars, people in cars getting hurt in shopping centers.
These are all the civilians over there.
They work in the, like doctors, they all require pagers and everything.
Even, what's his name?
I'm trying to think of his name.
The Swiss retired guy that, what's his name?
Anyway, he was commenting on that, too.
He broke down the entire structure of what Hezbollah was.
There's the military arm, which is a fraction there, but everything else is in civilian hands.
Hezbollah runs everything, but it's all civilian after the military.
And so Israel is deliberately targeting the civilians, just like they do in Gaza or just like over in Ukraine.
It's never a military target in Ukraine.
It's always civilian.
And this is just part of this, and I hate to say this, but part of this depopulation agenda.
They don't care how many people they kill.
Um, just like with COVID, uh, the jabs, all this stuff, uh, this, this number just keeps going up.
Uh, and they, they, I think it's with that pure hubris of that elite, the smug elite, because they know what they've planned.
And a lot of people they know.
Aren't going to be around, so they're just going full bore at it.
The rule of law, which has been broken up by the United States so many times, it's like it precedes international law, where we see the United States and Israel, they at will bomb everyone they want under the auspices of terrorism.
Well, terrorism That's like that eye for eye, tooth for tooth thing.
You can't sit there and say bomb a country to death because of four people or allegedly 12 terrorists came out of your country and bombed a building.
You can't indiscriminately kill people.
And that's what this rule of law is, what the United States goes by.
And then, of course, they sit there and they thresh the international court system.
One thing that was made common knowledge today is that BB had cancelled his meeting to the UN because once in the UN, he's basically off US soil.
He can be arrested.
And so that's why he's cancelled his meeting there.
But they know they're all war criminals and they get away with it with US supporting.
And I hate to say this, but when they say the U.S.
backs what Israel's doing and blah, blah, blah, well, it's because the majority of the United States government are Jewish.
And so they back up their fellow tribesmen.
Yes, yes, yes.
Hezbollah, by the way, in response to the death of their leader and so forth and these other attacks, has launched a lot of missiles into Israel.
In fact, there's a map of how many they've fired.
It's rather staggering, hundreds of the missiles Israel reporting 280,000 are already inside their shelters.
More missiles are incoming, as well as fired over 100 rockets into Haifa and Galilee, including 15 long-range heavy rockets.
With a range of 75 kilometers, Hezbollah fired nine rockets at Ramat David airports.
Reports coming in claiming direct damage to the base.
Image below does not show much of that happening.
Meanwhile, Israeli officials believe the target of tonight's attack was the Ramat David airport to the southeast of Haifa, which houses F-16CD squadrons and drones used by the Israeli Air Force.
Media reports now say, and this is Hal Turner reporting, HEPA is under fire.
Hezbollah leader Nasrallah is displacing northern residents on a larger scale.
Fires have been reported during the David Airborne Air Base.
Rockets have hit Nazareth, damaging unidentified vehicles.
300,000 have entered the shelter.
Wow.
I'm glad to say we've been joined by David Bushman and as well, of course, as Casey already here.
David, I don't know if you've caught all these stories about what's going on, but it looks like it's breaking out both in Ukraine, Russia, and in Israel with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Thoughts about any of the above?
Yeah, just to correct the record, my name is Sam Bushman, and I'm with the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association.
I'm the CEO of the organization.
I work directly with Richard Mack, the founder and president of the organization.
And to me, you know, the interesting thing about these breakout of wars, you know, how convenient right before an election for this to happen, number one, in the United States, but number two, I think we should not pick either side of it.
I think we ought to have a humble George Washington foreign policy, and I think we ought to stay out of it.
Yeah, go ahead.
You're welcome to do that.
Go ahead.
The idea is even with Zelensky.
They want all-out war.
They want to bring the United States in because they know that they can't whoop, whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas, or like that, without the United States.
They want direct international intervention in these.
They want to bring NATO in.
They want a world war.
And it's saddening there because of the fact that, like you say, we should be totally neutral on this, but again, the United States is held hostage.
We can see that every time, say, Netanyahu comes over here and gets his standing ovations, that this country is held hostage to what Israel does.
And I don't know if it's under threats of the banking system or what, that they're able to get the Our government, allegedly, to be able to go along with this, and the world, the entire world is now looking at the hubris from the United States government at the hypocrisy of all this talking about humanitarian crimes of China and stuff like that, for them to sit there and watch the United States stand by and let this stuff happen and supply the arms for it, and that's another issue.
And that's why I'm saying, why don't we completely stay out of it?
We don't need to fund it.
We don't need to train.
We don't need to back it.
We just simply need to stay out of it.
I believe 90% of the world would not be at war if we didn't fund it and train and arm people.
We're the greatest arms dealer in the world.
Jim?
Those are great points.
Absolutely.
I think they're very upset about Trump because he wants to end the conflict in Ukraine.
I wish he felt the same about Gaza because he was going to cut it off just by stop sending the weapons that are being used to promote the genocide.
So I agree.
And that's something I've liked about Trump.
He's been a non-interventionist, only being Willing to go to war to use American assets if American interests were at stake, whereas we seem to have become rather captive of the Israeli government, where I've said on more than one occasion, if you want to understand Washington today, just envision Bibi Netanyahu, who is our president for foreign relations, and George Soros for domestic.
That's correct.
I agree.
And what I would say, too, is this.
Think about if we didn't have the Federal Reserve creating fake money out of thin air.
We wouldn't be able to fund all these unconstitutional, immoral, unjust wars around the world.
We wouldn't be able to arm everybody to the teeth and train everybody for war.
We seem to be funding and backing and training and promoting both sides of war every single time.
Right now we're supposedly for, you know, the Ukraine and Israel.
But when you think about it, how did all these other people get their weapons?
And the answer is either from our most favored nation trading partners or from us.
That's the answer.
Either way, it's a clown show, all designed to build the military-industrial complex, all designed to promote death and murder and destruction, and out of those ashes create tyranny everywhere in the world.
And right now they're using this, in my opinion, to manipulate an election.
Right before the election, let's go to war, right?
I mean, what perfect timing.
Drop the interest rates, start a war.
That ought to fix things for Kamala and Camp, right?
So I find the whole thing very suspect, to say the least.
Sam, is it the theory in relation to the election, the rally around the flag event?
I mean, we had that with W after 9-11.
I mean, he'd been in the pits in terms of the polls and shot up to, I don't know, 85%, the highest of any president ever in the wake of 9-11, even though The U.S.
was complicit.
CIA, neocons, Dick Cheney especially, who appears to have been running the op from a bunker beneath a White House in the Mossad.
This was an Israeli op to create a pretext for bringing American forces into the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
Which worked well until the intervention of Russian and Iranian troops at the invitation of the president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, which put a halt to it, at least temporarily, but there are many like Paul Craig Roberts who believe what's going on today is a continuation of the effort to create a greater Israel of Zionist dreams, which includes a big chunk of Egypt, most of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, all of Lebanon, all of Jordan.
Sam, your thoughts?
My thoughts is he's right.
What we need to do in my mind is step back from this.
We don't need to be part of these international agreements, international coalitions that violate our sovereignty.
We don't need to fund, train, or arm anyone around the world.
We got to lead with diplomatic relations.
We got to realize there's a big ocean between us and our enemies.
We need to realize that we can protect America, but see, we're in over 130 nations, militarily speaking right now.
My question is why?
The Republicans and Democrats both run when they try to get elected on a humble foreign policy or a back away from war.
But then when they get elected, they take turns doing the same thing.
Trump was better than others, but he didn't bring our troops home en masse.
He didn't defend our homeland en masse.
He didn't defund and back away from the military-industrial complex.
In fact, we spend more money out than all other nations combined, gentlemen.
Sam, you're excellent.
Casey, I'm delighted you suggested bringing Sam in today.
Your thoughts, my friend?
Yeah, I can't agree more with that sentiment.
It's spot on.
I mean, we definitely are playing a hand in promoting these wars by our faithful obedience to our federal government, by complying.
So I guess at some point something's got to give and, you know, we'll see what happens.
I'm very concerned, obviously.
I'm sure everybody here is concerned of World War III.
It looks like we're definitely in the earliest stages of that, so we just have to prepare and band together with our neighbors, basically.
Casey, with conscription, they've been pushing for conscription in the last several months as well, which literally directly points to the fact that they know they're going to war.
They tried to get the women involved.
That got rejected.
But really, men are all being pushed towards conscription.
And eventually it's going to be men and women, all of our younger generation.
It will destroy America, destroy our homes, our families, our communities, based on this conscription idea.
And if you have a constitutional, moral, just war, you don't need to rely on conscription to get people to join it.
It's only when you're promoting tyranny or when you're betraying the populace that you need to force people to be part of it, Jim.
Oh, Sam, you're so right.
I think if they start drafting young men and women to fight Russians in Ukraine or fight for Israel in Gaza, I think there's going to be a protest of the kind you've never seen before.
I'm very distressed.
Universities have been suppressing, protesters opposing.
It's not anti-Semitism, it's anti-genocide.
What could be more worthy?
I mean, I've been impressed that as many students have spoken out, but I'm appalled by administrations that are working to undermine their exercise of freedom of speech.
I mean, I was 35 years in the academy as a professor of philosophy.
This is just a terrible Unconstitutional, un-American, undemocratic response by higher education as a whole.
Oh, I'm shocked and amazed.
That's right.
But all you've got to do is look at the white people suffering in Africa that are abused and maligned and destroyed and hostilely, you know, ran off their farms and etc.
to see the kind of point.
If you ever stand up for anything moral or good, the rule of law, honesty or integrity, you're overrun by the cry for war mentality at every turn.
I say, hey, we shouldn't be backing, promoting Israel.
They say, oh, my gosh, you're an anti Jew.
I say we should stop war everywhere.
Oh, my gosh, you're a you're creating a whatever.
You're a Palestine backer.
No, I don't want to be in a war in Palestine either.
Okay, well, you're just an isolationist, and it doesn't matter what side you take.
If you stand with peace, you stand with morality, you stand with the rule of law, you stand with integrity, you are maligned, the destroyed, and called a bigot, a racist, a Jew hater, an isolationist.
I mean, the labels never end.
Oh, Sam, you're so spot on.
Keith, you want to add a few thoughts of your own?
Yeah.
In 2019, there was an article in Military Times about lowering the inscription age to 16.
This is a time period now.
Help us.
Yeah.
So I thought, well, this is pretty interesting because they denote all these so-called school shootings and getting the guns out of the hands of kids.
And yet again, it's like ex-CIA John Stockwell said, it's a concept.
We see a militarized society where even you can in the store buy diapers in camo that they constantly have this.
I have a video from Cary Grant when he was Destination Tokyo where he goes in there and he tries to tell them about why the One of the sub-mates was stabbed in the back by a Jap, you know.
And he says that these boys are militarized from the day they're born.
By five, they know how to handle a samurai sword.
They can put a gun together, you know.
And he denotes the fact that the guy who was killed, his little daughter was in roller skates and stuff.
But I thought of that and I thought, Geez, when I grew up, it was always G.I.
Joe, Little Green Men, and Army, and stuff like that.
We live in a total militarized society, and we see this constantly when you look at YouTube.
It's constant videos of war games, guns, and they always show the big barrels like that, like that really denotes something, which kind of, I think, is a sexual content too, but But anyway, it always shows the military aspects of everything.
It doesn't show peace.
And even Noam Chomsky and his talk on U.S.
policy in Latin America, it's the same thing.
The United States never wants peace because that's how they sell arms.
And Sam, you mentioned earlier the fact that with Latin America and arms, The United States calls Israel a flattop carrier.
Of course they are, because that's how they bypass the Boland Amendment.
They won't fuel all these arms down to Latin America.
So what they do is, during this massive outbreak of war in the Middle East, that Israel's arms sales go up 30 percent.
Where?
To Latin America.
And this is to drive immigration.
Well, what they want to do is create an external, global, like a World War III scenario, and then what they want to do is they domestically want to create an internal civil war in America along every fault line they can find.
And so it won't be a civil war based on ideology like, you know, the civil war we used to know of.
States' rights versus general government abuses.
It'll be a war of everybody against everybody on every fault line they can create.
That's where they're really headed as they balkanize the greatest country on the face of the earth.
Sam, Sam, I think you're spot on here.
And of course, this mass immigration poses such a threat to the nation.
That's one reason I was especially pleased to have you come in, because as I see it, our bulwark against this includes, oddly enough, motorcycle gangs, Malicious.
But I think constitutional sheriffs—and of course we've got this mass of armed Americans who I believe would be willing to stand up for the nation, where I've contemplated sheriffs deputizing law-abiding citizens who are capable of exercising the right to keep and bear arms in defense of the nation to constitute a bulwark But the threat is so immense and the Democrats are promoting it everywhere.
They're putting these populations from distant countries all over.
They're not here to assimilate.
They're not going to learn the language.
They're going to continue their own traits.
They're getting them registered to vote.
I hate to barbecue the Republicans too, but they deserve it as well.
You know what?
Why haven't they already impeached Joe over this?
Why haven't they already impeached Kamala over this?
Literally, they have committed treason, in my humble opinion, to which I'm entitled, and high crimes and treason, because they have partnered with those who would invade our country.
Why haven't the Republicans, you know what?
Impeach them, remove them from office, and tried them for the abuses of partnering on an invasion.
Since when, when you're the President of the United States and you swear an oath to the supreme law of the land to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic, where did partnering with people who would invade our country with evil intent come in?
The Republicans haven't done anything with this, have they?
Well, not to burnish my credentials as a conspiracy theorist, but the real Joe died in 2017.
We've had a fake Biden in the office ever since from the inauguration, and now the fake Biden appears to have died in Las Vegas.
Which was followed in short order by a statement not on White House stationery, withdrawing from the race.
It had a forged signature.
It did not have stamps required by the Federal Election Commission.
And then they replaced him with another fake Biden who's even four inches taller.
He looks like he might be a basketball player.
Sam, this is just so insulting.
The media's not reporting on it.
I'm not hearing any of the political figures calling it out.
And I'm simply delighted we got Sheriff Mack joining us.
That's just wonderful.
Go right ahead, Sam.
Talk about this.
Well, it seems to me like Joe Biden is like, who's the real Slim Shady?
Please stand up kind of a thing.
You know, I don't know whether he's dead or not.
I understand the concerns and the questions.
The fact that we've got a person running for president was never voted on by the people in the first place is a serious, serious problem.
We've literally skipped the primary.
Uh, the idea that, um, you know, you can have, uh, Biden not really make appearances or speak to the people, but you know, other people are running the country.
The idea that you could step down from your position running, uh, as you know, a Democrat and then, Hey, somehow it's not even on official appropriate documentation.
And then saying that, Oh my gosh, they, um, created a insurrection.
I mean, a coup.
I'm using those words intentionally on purpose to go ahead and replace Biden whether he's alive or dead.
I mean all of this amounts to a sham to the American people and the problem is we the people are just sitting back and taking it.
We need to stand up and say this is not acceptable.
Jim Jordan and Mike Johnson released a document after Biden was dismissed and whatever you want to call it stepped down.
Saying, oh, we're not going to go after Biden even though we know he had impeachable offenses.
So this is what I mean by the Republicans, you know, deserve their hat handed to them too.
I'm so pleased to have you here, because I think the greatest threat our nation has ever faced is this influx of 16 to 20 million illegals.
They're being put everywhere.
They're being allowed to vote.
There's a Democrat scam, and I'm wondering how we can effectively deal with it.
I've been mentioning resources, oddly enough, motorcycle gangs, militias, but most importantly, the constitutional sheriffs.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate being part of this, and thanks for having me.
bosses.
I want your thoughts because I know you have done a profound research on this.
Yours.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate being part of this and thanks for having me.
Yeah, there's one other part of the coup that's happening, a little bit mentioned, and I'm sorry I wasn't here a little bit quicker, but the coup that is happening is the border.
Erase the border, let all these people come in, and then what are the Democrats and some Republicans doing?
What are they actually doing with the 20, 30, 40, 50 million illegals that have infiltrated invaded our country.
Two things.
One, you already mentioned, Jim, you mentioned that they're voting.
They've been getting registered to vote for the last 15, 20 years, even some during the Trump administration, because there are local officials in the states that were doing that, that don't have to check with the president or don't have to check with the federal government.
They just get them registered.
And they knew that.
They knew it all along.
But Clinton started registering illegal aliens a long time ago.
It was one of the reasons why the Reagan California state was transformed into Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein state, because of the illegals and the foreigners that were getting on the voter rolls.
Now there's this one other thing.
Constitutionally, how do we reapportion or provide for new members of the House of Representatives?
It's according to the census, and it doesn't matter if these people are registered or anything.
They just have to count the people in the home or in the apartment complex.
And so that's another place they're actually going to reapportion The constitutional and oriented people, or even moderate Republicans, are going to be moved out of the way so that these communists and others like the—what did they call them?
The four staunch communist Muslim representatives?
You make a fascinating point, Sheriff.
Yeah, so the squad will be multiplied and made bigger, and there's nothing we can do because the census will provide that, and it will transfer power to the communists and socialists.
You make a fascinating point, Sheriff, namely their moving of areas where they can affect the representation in districts.
The representatives in Congress, that's fascinating.
That makes great sense, right?
They're going to own it.
And they're going to have a complete monopoly over the government, from Hawaii to Bangor, Maine.
They're going to own it.
And what are we going to be able to do?
Well, you know, I've been worried for years and years since I discovered that agencies of the government, they don't have any law enforcement or military responsibility, like the EPA or the IRS, who are accumulating millions of rounds of hollow-point ammunition, My belief is these are stashed in caches around the country.
Now, we got a lot of military trained here.
We're ready to maybe don a blue helmet as a UN fighting force.
They didn't come in with weapons, but we got the weapons here waiting for them.
I'm fearful that this is going to be an uprising internal to America, and we're going to have to fight a war on multiple fronts, Sheriff.
What can we do?
Well, the first and foremost is we've got to have sheriffs working with, just as you alluded to earlier, this is absolutely true.
The sheriff's the only person in the state that can call out posses, get people deputized, and start erecting these barriers, create the defenses.
If the sheriff knows that he can depend on his posse, his minuteman posse, at a moment's notice to erect the barriers and to help I'll start identifying the problems in his county.
We have already established, I'm sure Sam has mentioned this, that we're already trying to get attorneys general all across the state, or the country, in every state.
The governors, just as DeSantis already came out and said, they will do a parallel investigation on the assassination attempt on Trump.
A couple of weeks ago.
This is all lawful.
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That actually came up between Texas and the federal government during the assassination of JFK.
They said this state law requires That he have an autopsy before he leaves here.
Right.
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Sheriff, I know you want to add a few words about Trump.
Go right ahead.
Yes, thank you.
First of all, I've been talking with some high up people all over the country, especially some sheriffs who have actually been to some training.
One just got back from intel training in Israel.
About what's coming, and there's definitely some talk about this, and so I want to throw this out.
I think it's a very distinct possibility.
Is there any reason that the people cheating and are trying this coup actually want President Trump to be reelected?
And when I talked about this over the weekend in the meeting that we had in Las Vegas, a few people just said, no, no, no way, no way.
I said, let me tell you the scenario.
This is the scenario.
They want president, they win either way with socialist Kamala because she's such a puppet.
And if they get Trump in there, we've said this when we had our Orlando event three or four weeks ago.
Uh, first of all, three weeks ago, why would they want Trump in?
Because...
On November 6th, if he's announced president on November 5th, what does it look like in America November 6th?
Violence, and perhaps even civil war.
Because all of the hundreds of thousands of international terrorists, Middle Eastern terrorists, Chinese dissidents, Russian dissidents, the cartels, and all the other Illegal aliens, and it might not be all of them, obviously it won't be all of them, but there will be enough that its millions are going to create the violence in America that are going to make the rest of this look like kindergarten.
It'll make 9-11 look like kindergarten.
And so what do they really want in America?
They want chaos, chaos and violence.
And this is exactly what will prompt All of that to happen, and those who are here to do that are going to use it for the springboard of all the violence and civil war in America.
And that is why we've got to have the sheriff building the defenses.
To add to your point, what they will do also, can you hear me okay, gentlemen?
Yes.
Okay, what they will do also then is if Trump decides to crack down on that to create law and order, then they'll say he's a dictator.
Yeah, he loses.
Trump loses either way.
Those words are meaningless.
Harris is elected when there's overwhelming support for Trump.
They've got these serious pollsters going out.
They can't find anyone who wants to vote for Harris at all.
She's paying people to Go to her rally.
I think she paid Taylor Smith a million bucks to endorse her.
I mean, it's all totally fraudulent.
I think there could be an uprising if Harris were installed, because it'd be so obvious, stealing the election for the third time.
I mean, they did it in 2020, they did it in 2022.
Why not try again in 2024?
They will, but it's even a bigger victory for them if they have Trump in there, and they ruin him, and they ruin the country, and they set the country up for civil war.
Yeah, Jim?
Yeah, go ahead, Keith.
Yeah, you know, I'm not into politics.
I studied the CIA more than anything else, but I always figured Trump was the Pied Piper, what they were going to use.
Remember Goldman Sachs said that Trump was worth more alive than dead to them.
Yeah.
Trump with his red hat wearing patriots make America great again.
When was this country great?
Of course, it's always been at war.
And of course, this is the only way they can do that is to have the patriots by using them, using them as a tool to go against all the world.
Because what's his name over there?
Brian there from the New Atlas talked about what U.S.
policy is.
It's total world subversion like that.
Full spectrum dominance.
And this is what's going on here.
And they need Trump in there to have his patriots going along with this.
And yes, Trump will get these guys to do what they want.
Remember, Trump's the one that increased the green cards from India so that we today can press one for English.
They fired all those telco workers and stuff who had to replace all their employees like that.
Right now there's millions.
The Fed just announced it.
Millions more are being added to unemployment lists.
Amazon's firing was at 1.21 or 2.4 million or something like that.
They're shutting the country down.
There is going to be chaos.
And then there's the world food supply.
I have yet to hear any politician talk about the world food supply.
And this is what bothers me.
You're absolutely correct.
And my other thing here is I know the ins and outs of this so-called COVID thing.
This is... I thought, Sheriff Mack, that there was no statute of limitation.
This is murder.
Outright murder from the U.S.
government.
It's not China.
There's none on treason either.
And so there's no statutes of limitations on any of this.
Can I ask you this, Sheriff?
If you're still an acting sheriff there, did you... No, I'm not.
I am not currently.
OK, so do you know if the sheriff's office has got any of this CARES II money?
Oh, I'm sure they did.
Yeah, see, I think it bought the silence.
And this is what bothers me, is I haven't documented what they did, how they did it, everything like that, and I'd like to share an email with you sometime about that.
Yeah, that'd be fine, but to create the defense that Sam and I have been working on, in case he's been part of this for quite a while also, to create the defense for the entire nation, we need one-third of the sheriffs.
That would be right around a thousand.
And if they would be active and totally doing this and working with their policies, we will win this.
But if they're not there, and they're not ready, and they're not prepared, and they don't have policies, it's not going to work.
I don't believe that Trump would be intentionally trying to cause war.
Even with the Patriots?
That's only a small part of what I disagree with you.
I believe that either way, they're going to use the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of illegal aliens and the other groups, the international terrorists.
And Antifa and BLM were a part of January 6 and claimed that they were there for Trump, you know, so let's be real about all of that.
They can use this.
They'll be making sure that Trump is rendered to blame.
Yes, well, yeah, that's like there's a guy on the internet called HT.
He's down there in Florida.
He runs this anti-Jewish site called Goyim TV.
That's fine, but he's always running their Nazi salutes and stuff like that.
Well, that was found out that down in Florida that those same Nazis were at the January 16th trying to recruit for the Ukraine.
Of course.
And then I have the video that the CIA was behind all this Nazism to keep this movement alive, you know?
We know January 6th was a dim op, a Pelosi shootout.
Mayor Bowser, FBI probably had 500 assets in there.
Trump said peacefully and patriotically there was nothing about an insurrection.
It's an absurd idea.
He wasn't inciting anyone.
And the public has caught on to all this bullshit about Blaming Trump for everything.
They're not going to buy it in the future.
I don't care what the illegals do.
They're not going to blame Trump.
They know damn well that borders are in these brainless eras.
And if anything, I mean, she is dumber than a post.
It's insulting.
This is a candidate of a major party.
Jim, I found out one thing in life, Jim.
They purposely depress the economy to buy off people, whether it's through social programs or what.
It's the same thing with the immigrants.
You throw sugar on the floor, you get ants.
And this is how they did that.
This government, it wasn't the other government, it was this government that offered, like I've sent you the article there, Jim, about Venezuela, to get 450,000 Venezuelans in here.
And then they were, oh, those guys are criminals and stuff like that.
Yeah, but it's all in cooperation with what the United States government is doing, with my orchestra and those guys.
Heath, we know this!
We know!
Crying out loud, DHS and UN have an operation down in Panama to orchestrate this.
I've got video caravans, and they've got the Star of David on the side, bringing all these guys right up to the border, pouring them over.
We know all that.
Casey, I want your thoughts.
Casey.
Yeah, I'm just enjoying the conversation and really one of the reasons we wanted to come on the show today was to talk about how the CSPOA and another group I'm part of called People's Rights and Networks Where we band together with other neighbors have been heavily attacked by many of these socialists and trying to craft this narrative over the last handful of years.
I'm not sure how long the CSPOA has been attacked by the IREHR, but this is one of the major things we want to talk about today.
Tell us about the CSPOA, Casey.
We're going to go all the way.
Really quick before we get to that, one final point though is this.
Who thinks Kamala is going to win the election?
Newsweek has been publishing absurd stuff contradicting all the serious polls, claiming she's going to win the election that she's already taken to the stage where they've begun the voting.
It's embarrassing.
But if they commit fraud, she might win.
Yeah.
I heard they're going to be shipping these immigrants.
That's what we all anticipate.
They're going to try to steal it.
It's only if support for Trump is so overwhelming that they can't get away with it.
There's a lot more attention being paid now than way back when in 2020.
I get it.
So do you think that they'll get away with it?
I'd like to hear what Casey was saying.
We interrupted Casey.
Let's finish with what Casey was saying.
Well, that's okay.
This is a whole other topic, so you might as well finish this segment off.
That's right.
So Keith, do you think they're going to commit election fraud?
What do you think is going to happen here?
Yeah, I do.
I wonder if Kamala is going to be the president.
Yeah, I've already heard that they're going to start, since these immigrants have freedom to move and they're being paid travel and all this stuff, that they're going to move these immigrants from city to city or state to state.
And the way they're registering these guys for home residence and stuff, they're just going to have them re-register as voters in that county or whatever.
It's actually, I think it's just real simple.
They're doing the Department of Motor Vehicles to register them to vote, and I used to think they were going to be moving them around.
I no longer am inclined to believe that, but of course they're going to try to steal the election.
The problem is, can we defeat them from doing that?
I mean, Trump wanted 2016, because it was rigged for Hillary.
I have no doubt about it.
I even had emails from voters, pollsters, saying how they were oversampling women and Democrats and progressives to make the polls look for Hillary so they could claim we saw it coming.
It was the uprising in the rural communities.
Richard Charnin, who's a brilliant analyst of elections, has explained to me if you're going to steal an election, you've got to go where the votes are.
The votes are in the cities.
They can control the cities.
But it's been the rural counties where they put Trump in, and I think we're going to see an even greater turnout for Trump this time around.
Sheriff Mack, your thoughts?
Well, yeah.
You know, right now my thoughts are to what Casey was saying, and this is this.
There's groups that are proving every day that the CSPOA, the Constitutional Sheriff Movement, must be having a huge impact because Southern Poverty Law Center, The Anti-Defamation League and IREHR are going after me and Sam and our movement and our constitutional sheriffs with a vengeance.
And they know that we're having an impact to stop them and that the sheriffs of this country can stop this treason and stop this corruption.
And we are ready to do this if we just get another five or six hundred sheriffs on board And the national brainwashing and attacks towards all the sheriffs in the country are now starting to get sheriffs to back away.
It's starting to work.
Let's be honest and real here.
I'm going to tell all of you what they've been doing is starting to work and sheriffs are starting to cower and shy away from this because they are afraid they're going to get the same attacks that Sam and I have been getting, which will end their careers.
They don't understand that our country is at stake here, and the time is now of the essence that we must stand and protect America.
They're not going to have any careers if they prevail.
They've got their... Exactly!
They got it backwards, upside down, Sheriff.
If those sheriffs don't stand up now, it won't matter if they think they got a job later.
Exactly our point.
Exactly.
It's the same with the politicians.
It's the same with the politicians.
These politicians don't know this.
World government is bringing in their own minions to run everything, and so once they've been used, they'll be discarded.
It's no different than the CIA.
Once they use these so-called terrorists like that to overthrow Syria or something like that, they designate them as terrorists and bomb them to death.
You mean once they're with them, yeah.
Yeah, once they're through them, yeah.
I posted a link there, Jim, if you can put that on screen.
While we put that on screen, let me set the stage for some of this, Casey, and then you can chime in as well.
But here's the stage being set for this.
So the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association works in all 50 states to train sheriffs about the rule of law, about the proper role of constitutional government, about the checks and balances, about the oath
of office and most importantly about due process of law to protect the citizens and most sheriffs are good people but they're living beneath their authority and it's our job as we the people in partnership with the constitutional sheriffs and peace officers association to partner with our sheriffs and make sure they understand their role and then for us as we the people to back them and we do that through our national Posse.
If you want to become a member of that, cspoa.org and become a member of the National Posse today.
And then encourage each sheriff to create their own posses in their communities.
That way they can protect themselves.
When some gang thugs from Venezuela go off in Colorado and take over an apartment building, hey, the sheriff should send the posse down to stop them and say, uh-uh, that's not happening.
You know what?
As Jason Aldean said, try that in a small town.
Won't work.
And he got a lot of flack for it, but he was spot on right.
And so the Constitutional Sheriff's Organization has been attacked relentlessly because, as Sheriff Mack wisely pointed out, how effective we are.
Well, Casey Whelan has been doing some opposition research on those who attack us.
And he has discovered some tremendous things about how the local level works with the general government level and the government then works with these private NGOs or non-governmental organizations to attack us and how sinister the plan is up and down the line.
When you think it's local, It's not.
We found that out from when mom tries to go down to straighten out the PTA or whatever, or straighten out the schools from teaching Johnny should be a pervert, and then she finds out that she's in trouble with the FBI all the way at the national level.
How's that happening, Casey?
And that's really the takeaway from this interview that we need to highlight.
Sure, and so one of the things that the IREHR, now that stands for the Institute for Research on Education and Human Rights, and just as a little precursor and background, it was created in 1983 by Leonard Zestkind, who's become somewhat of a figurehead for promoting this white nationalist, white supremacy narrative.
And so, just to give you a little background, before the IREHR was in existence, and they put out, you know, articles and research papers on organizations that are basically fighting for liberty.
And so, I'm just going to read this paragraph here that talks about Zeskine.
It says he was part of this organization called the Center for Democratic Renewal, which I'm sure you're probably familiar with, Jim.
Out of Atlanta, Georgia, was formerly the Anti-Klan Network.
Its research director, Lenny Zeskind, who was formerly publisher of The Hammer, an anti-fascist magazine in Kansas City, Missouri.
That's where the IREHR is based.
In the past several years, Zestkind has established himself as an authority on right-wing extremism.
The public record of Lenny Zestkind shows that in 1978, he was the editorial board of Urgent Tasks, Journal of the Revolutionary Left, a publication of the Chicago-based Marxist-Leninist group, the Sojourner Truth Organization.
Zestkind also ran notices in The Hammer promoting Searchlight, a UK-based anti-fascist magazine with a long history of support from Marxist-Leninist groups, including the Communist Party.
And some of the other associates affiliated with the IREHR is Daniel Levitas.
Lynn Wells was, I believe, maybe part of this early on.
Also, another associate is Chip Berlay.
Founding member of Chicago Friends of Albania.
He's tied with the National Lawyers Guild.
And so essentially, they're trying to act like they're pro-America, but they're really not.
And they're targeting groups like the CSPOA, like People's Rights.
We've seen this over the past years with the Oath Keepers, 3%.
And so that circle is starting to be widened where they're just incorporating everybody that they can who's promoting constitutional values.
And the IREHR has been relentlessly targeting the CSPOA.
If you take a look at their website, IREHR.org, you can see some of these hit pieces.
And like Max said, it's having an effect because they're actually proactively sending a letter.
I posted an article where the IREHR sent a letter to the Minnesota AG informing him about the danger of the CSPOA citing their articles.
And they're also emailing like the entire one that when she.
Sheriff Mack was here a couple months ago.
They actually emailed multiple sheriff's departments throughout the state of Idaho warning them about Mack.
And so I did get one email from a sheriff replying and sent a message to Mack and saying that he appreciated what the CSPOA is doing.
So there's definitely people that appreciate and understand it.
Let's be clear to add this to what Casey's saying.
So these organizations, the IRHR, the Southern Party Law Center, the Rolling Stone Magazine, all these clown organizations that seem to back this play by these communists, what I find fascinating is they literally have a tie straight into the FBI.
A tie straight into the Secret Service, a tie straight into the NSA and the CIA.
And I mean, I can keep going.
You say, what do you mean, Sam?
Well, they have ties on the local level to these fusion centers.
And then in the fusion centers, they have tied to the national and it works in reverse, the national to the fusion centers, to the local as well.
And they've created a distributed network to literally.
Put all hands on deck when it comes to something that they want to be spread among this quasi-government slash, I don't know what you call it, non-governmental organizations, this socialist, fascist, doesn't matter what word you use, this communist tie.
It works both directions through these fusion centers.
We've uncovered that completely as well.
And that's the key to the exercise here, Casey.
Let me add, let me add, Sheriff, I think if You could illustrate what the sheriffs can do with their posse.
Take this roar on Colorado.
If the sheriffs were to come in there with a posse and clean it up, it would inspire the entire nation.
The wavering sheriffs would see they get so much support from the community.
The American people, 70-80%, want this to happen.
There's going to be overwhelming support, but they need an illustration.
They need some examples to inspire them.
We could be in Texas, could be at the border, anywhere they can muster the will to do it.
I think that would inspire the entire nation.
Jim, you're spot on.
You know why?
Because it would show exactly what would happen right after the feds came in there to stop them from doing that.
Sheriff Mack, why don't you explain?
We had a sheriff and a pastor speak at our last convention that did exactly what you're talking about.
We have great modern-day examples, Sheriff.
Yeah, and this one, folks, this is what our whole message is, that there's still peaceful and effective solutions.
So, of course, we had the horrible example of a sheriff in Harborough County, Florida, Tampa area, who arrested Pastor Rodney Howard Brown for having church.
Arrested him for having church, and that was right in the middle of the pandemic.
I think it was 2022.
And the other hand, we have Sheriff Glenn Hamilton in New Mexico, who did just the opposite.
A pastor in his community, Dr. Caleb Cooper, came to him and said, we're not shutting down.
We're not going to close down at all.
But I want to know what you're going to do to protect us.
Because just so you know, Sheriff, the government does not run our church.
Jesus Christ runs our church.
And he said, so what are you going to do to protect us?
And Sheriff Hamilton said, to his everlasting credit, if it takes me going to prison myself, I will do everything in my power to protect you and to keep you open.
And so they did.
And then here comes Sheriff Hamilton when the state comes to shut him down.
He's there waiting for him.
And he said, look, Just so you know, I have deputized every single member of this church.
Everyone in there is under the authority of the Sheriff's Office.
This church is under the authority of the Sheriff's Office, and it will remain open.
Goodbye.
And sure enough, they left.
Pastor Caleb Cooper kept his church open every minute of every Sunday, and never shut down one day or one second.
And they've never been back.
Another example to highlight that point is in Liberty County, Florida, there was a sheriff.
He's now a former sheriff by the name of Nick Finch.
And what happened was one of his deputies arrested a guy who had a gun but didn't have a quote, permit for the gun.
Well, anyway, the sheriff found out about it, went down and released the gentleman and said, look, we're not going to arrest and violate the Second Amendment here in our county.
We're not doing that.
Anyway, long story short, the governor literally arrested the sheriff.
Long story short.
The sheriff went to court, stood tall on his responsibility.
Eventually the sheriff won, the governor got shut down, and the sheriff got back pay for standing for liberty.
So when sheriffs stand up and got his job back, when the sheriffs stand up and the people back their sheriffs, this is the county sheriff, America's Last Hope.
It's a book Sheriff Mack wrote, and this is the solution we're promoting.
People are going to back the sheriffs.
I guarantee the people are going to back them.
They're appalled by what's going on.
They're disgusted.
They don't see anyone with any backbone.
They see a bunch of wimps and brainless boobs running the government.
It's insulting.
America has become a joke in the eyes of the world.
But if we can't save ourselves, nobody else is going to come to save us.
Casey, I think the next step is for you to highlight this Raskin letter so that people kind of connect more of the dots.
Well, I just want to underscore what Jim just said, and that's this.
We just need to make this bigger, better, and faster.
And I will say this.
We've never really even been funded, and we've done most of this without funding.
And so, if we had the funding, and we could take this nationwide, and have constant communications, and other people doing this besides me.
We'll respond and fund it.
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I want to make a key point here, and this is especially for Sam and for Keith.
In this situation, trashing Trump is counterproductive.
That's the dumbest possible thing you can do.
The people who are going to support this, support the shouts, are Trump supporters.
You come out trashing Trump because he lost freedom under COVID or some other horseshit, that's just splitting your support.
That's stupid.
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Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
He's flawed.
We all know he's flawed, but he's a hell of a lot better than the alternative, which are pure communists.
They're going to wreck this country.
If we don't have the support of Trump's supporters, we can't make this work.
I guarantee.
So I don't care how much, how strongly you feel.
I don't want you to say another word attacking Trump from here out until we get the guy in office and then bitch about him all you want.
It's a totally Good point, Jim.
Yeah, good point.
So, anyway, yeah, I actually, for the most part, politically really like Trump, so I agree with you, Jim.
That's a crucial message, because we can gut ourselves, pull the rug out from under our own efforts.
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Take action now with everyone you can tap into.
Do it now.
Set an example.
The other sheriffs will discover they've got backbone when they see how their own community is telling them, hey, sheriff, we need to do what those guys are doing down there.
And when he realizes he's got popular support, he'll be all in.
He'll be all in.
He'll see his future being confirmed by doing this.
My advice.
Yeah.
Well, the thing of it is, most of the sheriffs simply need to be educated.
They don't know what to do.
They don't know how to do it.
And it's key that their constituents are part of the solution with them.
And most of the time that we've had sheriffs really get involved with us is because they were contacted by their constituents.
That's why, folks, you've got to get involved in this process.
And we help you with that.
Just go to CSBUA, become a member, and be a part of the solution!
Yes, yes.
Casey, I'd flip up some of that stuff you'd like me to put up, but I fear I'd lose you guys.
I mean, I'm not real sophisticated at some of this Zoom stuff.
So I want you to talk about, I want you to talk about what you would have had me show where I'm better able to do that.
Oh, no worries.
Can you play that video by chance?
That's the thing I'm saying about it.
If I play the video and you guys block off my screen and then I worry to desperately get you back, you know, I just went through that mini version.
No problem, no problem.
So basically, Sam notified me, let me know that the SPLC had sent a letter to Jamie Raskin.
And this was back in 2021 when this letter was sent from the SPLC.
And it was the House Committee on Oversight and Reform was holding a seven-part congressional hearing called Confronting Violent White Supremacy.
And in the fifth part of it, this letter was sent to Jimmy Raskin.
And Sam, why don't you tell people about that letter and what they were saying about the CSPOA?
Well, the bottom line is that they're basically saying that Sheriff Richard Mack, Uh, and Oath Keepers and trying to tie Richard Mack to the Oath Keepers.
Now it's true that Sheriff Mack is friends with Stuart Rhodes and has been in the past and was involved in the Oath Keepers for a little bit of time.
But Sheriff Mack left, I think it was in 20, what was it, 16, Sheriff?
Go ahead.
Yes, 2016.
I'm sorry.
2016.
Yes.
No problem.
Anyway, I want to get the dates right.
And so that's I mean, literally, that's eight years ago, folks.
Come on.
And so I have been friends with Stuart Rhodes, and I interview him because I'm a talk show host in my own right.
And so I interview people related to the news.
And but what they try to do is make this link then between Sheriff Mack and insurrectionist movement, tying him to militias, tying him to the Oath Keepers tying.
And then they try to tie me to racists and try to tie me to, oh, because I had on Stuart Rose the day before January the 6th that I'm guilty.
So they wrote this letter.
The point is to Congress.
And they're literally saying that, hey, Richard Mack is an insurrectionist.
Sam Bushman is an insurrectionist.
And we're literally, we don't belong in law enforcement.
We are in the situation where everything we say is racist and everything we focus on has this agenda for the overthrow of government.
So the IREHR, when we went to Florida just a couple of weeks ago, they wrote an article saying this is the beginning of the insurrection.
Well, me and Richard Mack have thrown down thousands of dollars.
What are we up to?
$10,000?
Sheriff Mack saying if you can tie either me or Richard Mack, me or Sheriff Mack to any kind of violence whatsoever, we'll give you 10 grand on the spot because they can't do it.
It's a lie.
And they put this literally on the congressional record, gentlemen.
Yeah, Jamie Raskin entered it into the congressional record, and we have the proof of it.
We have the video.
We have the documentation.
So this has become very real.
And then just to kind of talk about another aspect of this is that we have the DOJ.
You mentioned the other day on your show, Jim, that you mentioned that billboard.
That was written in a foreign language for foreigners to report people for hate crimes.
Yes.
This is all part and parcel.
I was in Creole even, so the Haitians can report hate crime.
This whole hate crime thing is a made-up, fabricated category.
There's no such thing bona fide under the law.
It's to try to suppress freedom of speech, which is designed to protect provocative speech.
Speech you don't want to hear.
Speech you disagree with.
Speech you may hate.
They hate having others express opinions contrary to their own.
It's sad to say—we get it from sources—I wouldn't want to be supporting censorship because, I mean, I'm 100% in favor of the Palestinians.
I'm damning Israel virtually every day of my life today for their terrorist acts, for genocide.
The idea of suppressing Students who are opposing genocide is to me such a miscarriage, so absurd that I denounce the academic profession of which I was a member for 35 years.
It's just disgusting.
Sheriff.
Well, yeah, you have some real good points there, Jim, and I appreciate your passion about all of this.
And we just have So many different avenues and legs to all this corruption and all the attacks aimed at us, and this is very simple.
Let me show you how simple it is.
This is the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
Read it.
Follow it.
Love it.
Enforce it.
Defend it.
And keep your oath, sheriff and all public officials, but sheriffs especially, because they're the last great hope that we have for America to take back America county by county.
There is no hope.
There is no hope in Washington, D.C.
Okay?
And I do want Trump to win.
But I believe that the Democrats and other rhinos will get in his way just like they have in the past.
How do we judge the future but by the past?
And we know that they're not going to leave him alone.
And I predicted all of this.
And they're still going to try to kill him time and time again until they're finally successful.
Yes, yes, yes.
And by the way, let me set the record straight, too.
I pray and hope and will do all that I can to see Donald Trump win as well.
So I don't want anybody to think that I'm an anti-Trump or by any means that is false.
What I do think, though, is that Trump needs to sit down with myself, Richard Mack, and General Flynn and put together an appropriate solution for the restoration of the Republic.
And we wrote a press release we're about to release to this very point, Sheriff Mack.
Yeah, yeah.
If you could get Donald Trump to endorse a constitutional share of the movement.
Tell him every American should sign up to become a deputize.
That would make a huge difference.
It's only going to help Trump.
And you know, I spoke with one of the biggest sheriffs over the weekend, and I said, do you really want to help Trump?
He goes, 100%.
And I said, then we need to start investigating the crooks in Washington, D.C.
Let's start the investigations.
Sheriff, Sheriff, Sheriff, don't worry about that.
Worry about getting a citizen to sign up to be deputized.
Worry about strengthening the sheriff constitutional movement.
Well, we need both.
We need both.
Absolutely.
You can be distracted by the fact that we know they're all criminals and traitors.
But the law moves at a stale pace.
We need an immediate response to an immediate problem.
Just have them talk about it.
And the best way to get people to understand this and to join us?
The best way to get people to join us, though, is if President Trump would literally sit down with us and talk about this solution and highlight this when he's on the campaign trail.
That's what I'm saying.
Jim, you're making a mistake.
You're making a mistake right there.
Because the investigations, if we have hundreds of investigations going on, that'll get huge press.
And it'll show people that we're trying and that we're doing something.
The investigations don't have to take that long if they actually work on them.
This isn't FBI.
This isn't federal.
This is now state and county investigations that are doing one thing, educating people as to what the real problem is.
And that's what investigations do.
Lots of investigations going on.
You got Mike Adam talking about it.
It was DHS who gave the information.
Yeah, but you have none from sheriffs.
You have none.
The people that we can really depend on.
You mean sheriffs conduct investigations?
Through the investigations where we know people are honest and fair and that we can depend on.
The answer is yes, sheriff's investigations.
3,000 of them all over the country.
You can't depend on the FBI or any federal agency to do these.
It's government, governors, AGs and sheriffs.
And that's why we need Donald Trump to highlight this as the real answer.
We need to go local.
So General Flynn teaches local action, national impact.
And if we had local action by 3,000 sheriffs backed by we, the American people, endorsed by the next president of the United States, now we're getting somewhere, Jim.
Yeah, well, I agree.
What I'm saying is Trump is a guy who can provide the national leadership on this.
He's got to endorse the shout movement, endorse USA.
How do we sit down with him to get that to occur?
That's our next step.
Let me add something here, okay?
I've been on America Out Loud network here recently, and we've had a few shows.
I've talked to Lewis, who is a backdoor to Donald Trump, What we're trying to do with Donald Trump is to get him off of the networks and get him onto the social networks, to where he can talk to the people, to hear what they have to say, to bypass everyone.
And the other thing about this is, America Out Loud, that network is comprised mostly of former CIA, former military, all this stuff like that, and some still serving, but they're the ones that know what's going on in the back door of America right now.
If this Lewis guy can get Donald Trump off of the regular Fox News and all that stuff like that and get him onto the social stuff to where he can talk to the people, I think that's where you're gonna find, and the people I mean is by those former agents.
Just imagine if he could sit down with Sheriff Richard Mack and myself and we could bring 20 current sitting sheriffs into the room and sit down and put an appropriate plan together.
Well, it's a great idea.
I'm just saying, if Trump at his rally—every rally is covered.
Everything Trump does and says is covered.
It doesn't have to be on social.
That's great.
Get him on social.
He created his own social truth.
But the point is, he will get the publicity if he just makes the statements.
In fact, it'll become very controversial because he'll be attacked for making the statement, which is more to the good.
And that's why we needed to work with us and sit down and help with our press release.
We're about to release right now.
I agree.
But like I say, this way Trump can talk to the actual agents that have seen the whole system go down, how they're working it and everything like that.
These are intelligence people.
They know.
Remember, you had 51 intelligence agencies that rallied against Trump with this Russian dossier and stuff like that, you know.
If Trump actually saw the actual inner workings of what the deep state was doing compared to what America used to be like, to where they actually cared about this country, this is where your, not in the covert means, but your CIA and stuff, they actually were out there working to better this country, where today they're moving it all towards communism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just gotta get Trump on board here to talk about it.
I think that'd make a huge difference.
And have people understand how they can contact their local sheriff and be deputized.
I think that's a key, Sheriff Mack, that's a key, I think.
So right now in our press release, we're asking publicly, we're going to issue it to over 6,000 media outlets.
Would love to have Trump's endorsement along the way.
General Flynn has already endorsed our press release.
We're working on other organizations to do so before we release it here.
But Sheriff Matt can pull it up and kind of quote from it a little bit, or if one of you guys can put it on the screen.
I emailed it to you as well, Keith.
This press release, though, highlights we're asking all 3,000 sheriffs to do local investigations and all state attorney generals, all 50 of them, to do their investigations about criminal activity relating to the border, relating to all kinds of different things, election integrity issues and the like.
And these investigations, if done right, can culminate all the way from the local action, national impact.
And I reiterate, not one of those investigations will be done before the election.
We got the more pressing issue of uprising of the migrants.
I say, you've got to push the posse idea.
That is what is crucial.
I'm all for investigation, but they take forever as a rule.
So I say...
You gotta push the posse.
You got 150 million armed Americans who'd be willing to come to help to preserve the nation.
They need organization.
They need leadership.
They've got the weapons.
They've got the ability.
They got the motivation.
They need leadership.
They need organization.
Let Trump be the George Washington of 2024.
Recreate the nation.
We need it.
Well, consider this, Jim.
As soon as the world knows that we are investigating Biden, Kamala, Mayorkas, Garland, all of them, just when they know they're going to start changing their behavior and it's going to have a huge impact as soon as they start, Sheriff, as soon as they see that, they'll say, we'll just steal the election and shut it all down.
That's what their plan is anyway.
Well, there's nothing going to prevent that.
There's nothing that's going to change that.
But that's exactly why if President Trump started traveling and presenting rallies with Richard Mack and Sam Bushman and General Flynn, pretty soon the game changes because the pressure's on.
That alone.
Just imagine if Donald Trump could say, listen, we're working with the local sheriffs of this country, from the chief law enforcement officers all the way at the local level.
That's fine.
But you can't stop the investigations because you know they're going to cheat.
back to act in a rally where he underlines a seriousness and why he needs to be willing to be deaf in the eyes but you can't stop the investigations because you know they're going to cheat they've been cheating for decades but but to jim's point though we need to take it national faster and get this covered and the best way is for trump to sit down with us sheriff mac and for us to do a rally together and highlight these truths Move it!
Move it!
Use your back doors!
Use every access you have to get it done, get it done, get it done now!
Exactly, but who's going to be in front of Trump?
I've tried to contact Trump, and I can't get him to call me.
But if you could and we could do a rally right now, just imagine if this conversation was at a rally before thousands of people forced to be covered by every outlet in the country.
Eric Macdonald Jr., J.D.
Vance, you've got multiple access routes.
Go to all of them.
You've got to find somebody who responds.
I mean, look, once Trump hears the message, he will respond.
You just got to get it to him.
We've been trying for literally eight years.
We ain't gonna have eight more years if this doesn't happen.
I've talked to Roger Stone about it, I've talked to General Flynn about it, I've talked to everybody that I can possibly talk to about it, and no one can make this meeting happen, Jim.
Not so far.
That's ridiculous.
It is.
I realize the amount of money that these guys have behind us to bring in this world government.
But Keith and Jim, do you have a way to make this happen?
I email Trump all the time.
I can reach out to whomever I'm able to reach out to and push it.
Because I throw down an opportunity.
If we can't get it done and you guys can, let's enlist you guys.
I'm ready to fly anywhere, anytime to make this meeting happen.
I get it.
I can't believe you haven't been able to organize a meeting before.
And we've tried hard.
It's like the last minute.
The people around him, closest to him, insulate him too much to where they don't even allow him to address the issue.
And that's been really the big problem.
Yeah, I think that's been the problem from the beginning.
He was surrounded by people who were working contrary to the interests of the American people to constrain him.
We even tried to get Steve Bannon to do it for us.
We're going to keep trying, Jim, just so you know.
We are going to keep trying.
We'll never give up.
We know some people that do, and that's why we're coming up with every possible peaceful solution that can help.
And you're right, some of these investigations might take a while, but initiating the investigation will have a huge impact.
I'm all for the investigation, Sheriff.
It's just they're not going to be timely enough to save the nation.
We've maybe got just a few weeks left, and you're right.
That's right.
That's my opinion.
The Republic has only a few weeks left.
That is the bottom line.
I see this as decisive, this election.
If they steal it... But what if we had a virtual rally on X with Trump, Flynn, Sheriff Mac, and myself, along with several current active sheriffs that are promising investigations?
What kind of an impact do you think that would have right now?
Go ahead and do it!
Do it!
I'd love to.
Can't get it done.
You just do it.
You'll find out.
We will get it done.
I don't know how many letters I've sent to Trump there, and I think that, as Sheriff Mac said, that there's some kind of a filter between him and the American people.
But Kamala can call Trump because Kamala called him after the assassination.
She called him and talked to him, right?
Well, she's the opposing candidate.
They're obviously going to put her through, but I can't believe they wouldn't put Sheriff Mac through.
That's just ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Go to Tulsi and RFK Jr.
too.
I mean, they're conduits.
Give me a way to talk to Tulsi Gabbard.
I would have already done it.
I want to talk to her.
I'm a nationally syndicated host and I'm one of the top 250 talkers in the nation and I've tried to get RFK Jr.
to join me on my program.
He's promised to be on programs if we reach out.
I'm reaching directly to his press secretary and can't get a single response.
Have you tried going through Jimmy Dore?
I haven't.
Jimmy Dore, great.
Steel Keith is great.
Judge Napolitano is great.
Jimmy Dore has access.
Judge, I want to interview Sheriff Mack.
Napolitano, I want to interview Sheriff Mack.
Sheriff, reach out to Judge Napolitano.
Reach out to Jimmy Dore.
Joe Rogan, reach out to Joe Rogan.
These guys have a huge audience.
They'd love to interview you.
Do you have a phone number for Joe?
Work around him.
Use this medium that has a real punch.
These guys are hugely popular.
Talker, for Christ's sake.
Talker ought to be interviewing you.
Try all of those, Sheriff.
Okay.
Impress upon them that time is short.
Honest to Pete.
I believe the republic only has a few weeks where survival can be ensured.
Let me give you another example.
I've had a direct connection to Tucker.
Except Tucker won't meet with us or talk about it with us either.
Why the hell not?
Don't know.
Can't figure that out, sir.
But Sheriff Mack, you know, I mean, I have the lady that books Tucker's, all Tucker's interviews, and she got my email and confirmed to me personally, verbally, she had it.
But nothing.
Crickets.
I'd even go on Alex Jones for that matter.
I mean, look, he's a mixed bag, but he has a huge audience.
And try them all.
Try them all.
Try them all.
Honest to God, George O'Rogan, RFK Jr., Tulsi, Alex Young, any of those, Judge Napolitano of all, he's the most probable, he has a huge audience, huge audience.
Yeah, and I actually know Judge Napolitano very well, and I hate to tell you this, but I had his number.
On my flip phone, and when I switched to my iPhone, it didn't transfer.
Now I gotta go find that original flip phone, because Judge Apolitano and I are very good friends.
I have his email here, but it's his old email to Fox News, and I don't think he has it anymore.
So I will follow up with that, because Judge Apolitano and I are good friends.
Well, he's super.
I admire him greatly, and I think he would be ecstatic to have you on, and he's doing serious stuff.
He does Colonel McGregor all the time, Scott Ritter.
He's doing a serious reporting, and I admire him, and the two of you would be a great combination.
One other one would be Tucker Carlson, because he does have contact with Trump, and if I could get on with Tucker.
I've been directly in contact with Carlson's team.
No go, people.
Yeah, we both have.
I'm pretty upset.
I have Gerald Salente's phone number.
I could get the message to Gerald Salente to get a hold of the judge.
Do that.
Do that.
Keith, you and I want to aid in a bit this effort as much as we possibly can.
Look, we're almost to the conclusion.
I'd like very brief closing sentiments.
Casey, would you like to take a few seconds, 30 seconds maybe?
Sure Thank you so much for having us on today.
We didn't quite cover all the topics we wanted to necessarily, but we did get the word out.
I appreciate you letting us come on your platform and discuss this and hopefully we can chat more in the future.
I'll have you back.
I'll have you guys back.
Sam, brief.
My Brief 32nd is cspoa.org.
Become a member of the National Posse today.
We've got a document written from a sheriff that helps other sheriffs set up their own local posses as well, with all the guidelines and how-tos and everything else that we can share with any sheriff in the country that's willing.
And we would love to get together with Donald Trump and others to make what Jim's saying a reality.
Sheriff Mac.
I will quote the Founding Fathers, the last sentence of the Declaration of Independence, and for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and sacred honor.
We must do the same today.
Godspeed, Sheriff Mack, and let's save the United States of America.
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