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Sept. 18, 2024 - Jim Fetzer

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The Raw Deal (18 Sept 2024) with Vaca, Winter, Hagopian & Spec Guest, Thomas Williams

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	Thomas, welcome to The Fearsome Four.
	Please tell us a bit about yourselves.
	Well, thank you for inviting me on.
	It's a pleasure to be on.
	I'm sure it'll be an interesting conversation.
	Me.
	I've been a podcaster for 11 years.
	My own show for eight and a half years called Truth, Honour and Integrity.
	I've never advertised the show.
	I allow people to find it by frequency and also word of mouth.
	And so for those who wish to access the archives of that show, it's THI-SHOW.COM.
	Now my show is kind of different.
	It's not a niche show per se.
	It covers over 50 topics.
	Because eventually in your awakening period, you find out it's all connected.
	Now the show can be controversial, as viewpoints can differ to many, but all our members will tell you many things that they didn't want to hear finally came out as near the truth as possible.
	I also worked as part of a global trust for four years, and I got to see the true wealth of the world, which allowed me access to so-called top people.
	Although personally, I never consider anyone above or below me.
	And I've engaged certain councils who have an interest in fixing this world.
	And as for the show, we help people and their struggles through life, a lot of psychology work.
	And we've also got A non-profit, of which I'm the unpaid director, called The People's Club, which helps members who are struggling financially.
	Now on the journey of discovery and my work with the Trust and the councils following a particular Earth Agreement back in 2016, I decided we have lots of people complaining within the alt-media.
	But no one has come up with solutions.
	And so I endeavoured to change that and developed what is called the New Blueprint for Humanity with some members of THI.
	And the reason for that is we cannot keep blaming the cabal, politicians or the 1% for the world ills.
	The problem is not them.
	The problem is us and our collective lack of responsibility and also a complete lack of unity.
	And so I developed a book, there's 29 solutions, and it's packed with common sense for when the old world collapses.
	And by old world, I mean the one we're all familiar with.
	And it will collapse, it can't do anything else.
	And the basis for the collapse, how would you describe that?
	Well, it's collapsing on every level.
	The financial level, Obviously I was involved with the Trust and I got to see the true wealth of the world.
	It's an account that some people have touched upon and claimed on the internet, most of which I discounted and I was reluctant to join on that basis.
	But I've seen the trust accounts, the global accounts, the wealth, the mineral wealth, the material wealth, the paper wealth, you name it.
	I've seen it.
	That has been cut off from the world.
	That's why we've never really came out of the 2007 financial crash, because the plug was pulled on the trust to certain elite and bloodline families.
	So that's that side of it.
	There's a societal collapse that we're all witnessing.
	The people are losing it.
	They're not happy.
	There's a governmental collapse, not just in America, but every other country.
	The military are being exposed as not perhaps doing what they should do.
	The law is being found corrupt on many, many levels by many people now.
	And the schools are now being questioned as to what they're actually teaching our children.
	And right across the board now, we're seeing this collapse.
	Well, let me get some reactions.
	Victor Hugo, your thoughts, what Thomas has to say, and welcoming him aboard.
	Go right ahead, Victor Hugo.
	So I see we've got an optimist among us, and this is going to be a very uplifting and a very happy show.
	So I don't know where I could go from there, really.
	It's like, OK.
	I can't say I disagree with you, and as a matter of fact, I just found out that the Fed may be having a very important meeting as we're talking right now, and it may cause a collapse of the economic market.
	Hold on, let's let... I think Russ Winter is getting a call from the Fed right now.
	Yeah, let me help you right now.
	Let's see what Janet Yellen has to say.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, so yeah, so that's happening as we speak right now, and that could of course create a bank holiday, which would have everybody freaking out because this weekend they will not be able to access their money.
	So yeah, the world is realizing that something big is about to happen.
	We just had that experience where people are now realizing that you may be holding in your pocket, in your hand, or very close to you, a weapon that can go off as soon as any Jew decides to press the button.
	Because Israel has now exposed themselves as having access to weapons of mass destruction, I want to come back to that, Victor Hugo, one of the main items on our agenda.
	I just wanted an initial reaction.
	Thomas, Ross, your thoughts?
	Well, I'm blackmailed, as you know.
	So, I mean, anything that helps me crawl out of the abyss that I'm in, I'm all for.
	I'm open-minded.
	I'll listen to it.
	Well, I'm ready for the revolution if there ever is going to be one.
	You know, we've been waiting on the public for a long, long time to finally wake up and realize what's going on.
	Maybe when these devices start blowing up in people's faces, maybe that'll wake them up.
	It's the Jews!
	Well, I know we're going to be talking a lot about the recent phenomenon that's going on in Lebanon with Hezbollah and all that.
	So that's important because that's a whole new form of terrorism we're seeing.
	And of course, you know, it doesn't take too much to figure out who the culprits are in this.
	Or who the targets might be.
	Yeah, anybody that disagrees with the Jews, basically.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, I mean, you're in for a real creeper roll from now on.
	What did you say?
	What did you say?
	Careful what you say, because at the press of a button now, your schmeckle could be blown up.
	I don't know if you've seen the size of the holes of those bombs.
	And by the way, that's made in Taiwan.
	So Taiwan is working with somebody inside of Israel.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The Lee family.
	In getting these pagers to the Mossad and that they implanted the explosive devices and then set them off.
	They were being used by Hezbollah.
	So this is an attack on Hezbollah.
	And I mean, they've been capacitated at least 4,000.
	Joaquin, do you have any more current information?
	Well, yeah, they're not just dealing with the pagers, but they're also going after the walkie-talkies and the radios.
	The handheld radios are happening today.
	Tuesday was basically the first round and now the second round with walkie-talkies and radios.
	So yeah, it's spreading and you know at the beginning of what?
	what, 2019 when China, they were dropping in Wuhan, and they were turning up, I think, the 5G, and people were dropping.
	So yeah, our electronic devices, including cell phones, are a weapon that are going to be used, and we're seeing it already, against all of us who oppose the evil agenda taking place.
	Well, perhaps I can help a bit on this, because I was given a bit of intel.
	I reported about three weeks ago that the Iron Dome is now disconnected, hence the Yemeni missile that did hit a target, despite what the media will tell you, and the Hezbollah hit the unit called the 8200, and 22 died.
	And I think 40 odd injured.
	That is probably why, if they did that attack.
	Israel now is more vulnerable than they've ever been.
	And it's not going to end well for Israel when the finals battle takes place.
	It's not going to end well for the United States either because the United States is in bed with Israel and the world sees that.
	This was a terrorist attack conducted by the United States and Israel, just like September 11, 2001.
	Let's stop playing games and let's realize that the United States is a terrorist state, along with Israel, which is a terrorist state.
	I mean, I hate to say it because I'm an American, but we are funding genocide.
	I think we've all said it on more than one occasion, Victor Hugo, so you're absolutely right.
	Russ, further thoughts?
	Well, I mean, to amplify that, you know, and it doesn't even really matter what's real, even if it's fake news.
	And this is an environment where you get a lot of fake news.
	and just spread around all over the place.
	The people panic and get into a panic mode that they could be targeted by these goons, whether it's true or not.
	And that's really hard to control.
	So they could really let the genie out of the bottle on this.
	And people could panic.
	You get some kind of a panic against Western technology.
	You know, if all of a sudden some big name somewhere, I don't know the intricacies of this yet.
	This is something we're probably going to determine as it goes along.
	But the element of panic and just downright hysteria can get going on this when people start worrying about things blowing up in their face, electronics.
	Israelis and the Jews are not that smart.
	They're just terrorists.
	They think with a terrorist mentality.
	And I don't think, you know, they're having a good time right now.
	What's your phone number, Russ?
	What's your phone number?
	All my technology is old.
	I don't like what you're saying.
	Everything I've got is old, though, so I'm good.
	Make sure that phone is in your pants.
	We want to make sure it gets maximum effect here.
	I think you're making a rather telling point that there could be massive anxiety.
	I mean, our young people today are absolutely addicted to their cell phones.
	They'd rather lose their parents than their cell phone.
	I mean, it's absolutely like that.
	It's totally addictive.
	Yeah, are you a protester against this genocide?
	You know?
	Think that through.
	So that might sort of sink in on people.
	Your phone could blow up and lose half your head, you know?
	These appear to be pretty powerful.
	And if it was in your pocket, you'd get your package blown off.
	That ain't so nice.
	Joaquin, when you think about the psychological dimension of all this, when people realize what's going on here, that these devices we depend upon are being turned into weapons.
	I think the sad part is everybody knows basically it's Israel and backed up by the United States.
	Everybody knows this and everybody also is now beginning to realize that we are all potential victims now because all of us basically, almost all of us, have electronic devices.
	And so we are all vulnerable at this point.
	And then, you know, look how they're cracking down on dissent, you know, so you put two and two together and yeah, so we're gonna have to psychologically watch hysteria because a lot of people are going to get very fearful and there's going to be a lot of misinformation out there as well.
	So yeah, it's a terrorist problem that's brand new coming to A neighborhood near you, it looks like.
	I was just talking to a friend today who's taking apart his phone to make sure it didn't have something added, a little added ingredient, and I don't blame him.
	I mean, to prank Brian out loud.
	I just think young people may be drawn into a wave of anxiety like they never... Right.
	Yeah, get them panicked.
	Get them panicked, and it'll just spread like wildfire.
	They'll be talking to each other.
	Tweeting each other.
	They'll be on Facebook conversations.
	And the more of these fucking Israelis high-five each other and gloat, the worse it'll be.
	Yeah, over their success.
	Yeah, because it's called Ben Sheth.
	It's assassination squads that are doing this.
	Are you guys finding out how they're doing it?
	Are you getting any of the details of it?
	Well, I interviewed a guy in Taiwan the other day.
	He told me that there's an unusual number of Israelis and Jews showing up to Taiwan.
	And from what I understand, the devices that were used were produced in Taiwan.
	And Taiwan, of course, is getting help from the United States.
	So there's a connection there.
	He's saying that it's just very bizarre because he's been living there for over 15 years and he's never seen so many Jews in Taiwan.
	What I saw was that the Taiwanese ship, the pagers in question were actually explosives or they're weaponized in Hungary.
	And then shipped to Jordan, which is kind of the entryway into a lot of goods into Lebanon.
	So you've got a couple interdiction points going on.
	So the actual dirty deed was not done by the Taiwanese that we know.
	I mean, that's up in the air.
	Could be the Taiwanese.
	When I'm saying the Taiwanese, it's because they're being financed.
	They're just the ones who produce these things.
	So it's not like they were... They produce the product, but the weaponization is done elsewhere by Probably Jews in Hungary.
	Perhaps I can help with that.
	The Taiwanese Jews are the Kaifeng Jews.
	They've ran China for the past thousand years.
	Kaifeng.
	They moved to Taiwan after the several wars with the Mongolians and also the Rus.
	And one of those names is the Li family.
	I think most people will be familiar with that.
	They are Jewish.
	Taifeng Jews.
	That's where it's coming from.
	Well, I also heard that the microchip capital of the world, of course, is Taiwan, and it may have originated there.
	But I also heard, like Russ, that That there was an intervention on the way in Europe, and I also heard the name of the country Hungary, which is a little bit ironic, because Hungary and Slovakia, of all the EU members and NATO members, they're the only ones that are neutral or actually supportive of Russia.
	Every other one is an enemy of Russia.
	So it's a little bit odd, but not really, I guess, because obviously there are plenty of Jews in Hungary as well.
	Who knows?
	It's a network, probably.
	They're starting to realize that it's the Jews against all the non-Jews, and that's in the Talmud.
	So they're looking to depopulate the planet to 500 million people.
	So you got to figure, let's say there's between 1.5 to 8 billion.
	I don't trust the numbers, but they're looking to get rid of a lot of Non-Jews, and they're even looking to get rid of some of the people who claim to be Jews, because when you do the math and they have 2,800 slaves, they're going to get rid of a lot.
	Listen, we're dealing with psychopaths here.
	So the sooner that people realize that we're dealing with psychopaths, the sooner they'll realize that there's no negotiating with the psychopath.
	So that's the quandary that we're in.
	I agree.
	I also authored a book called From His Story to Our Story that charts back to 110,000 years ago.
	of what were called the dark forces, the Koshis, they were called back then, which became the Kosher of now.
	And it charts back through various different paths that these Jewish nomads have taken.
	And this is what we're dealing with.
	It goes back way beyond our lifetime, way beyond their history, which is why I called the book From His Story to Our Story.
	It's been an ongoing problem over a long period of time.
	At the end of it, depends on how much destruction, but this is their end this time.
	It won't end well for them.
	This is the end.
	But in the end times, America was designated as the final battlefield.
	We all know that the Jewish are the heads of virtually every single department in America.
	They have ran for America since the late 1800s.
	Thomas, when you say that, obviously it lends the interpretation to a theological theory, apocalypse.
	When you say end time, do you mean that in a theological sense?
	Well, the apocalypse reveals the hidden, and in 2020 is what is called the Day of the Sparrow.
	We've had the Night of the Svarog for the last thousand and eight years.
	We've just entered the day.
	Now what that signifies is in the Night of the Svarog, the dark can play.
	But they can play in the dark.
	In the light, which started in March 2020, they have to play in the light.
	They have to show their hand.
	And this will last now another 1,004 years.
	That is our time to end this and it will end this time.
	Jim, the reason it's important for people that are agnostic and atheists to at least acknowledge and understand the Bible is because that's their playbook.
	These people are trying to bring upon the Antichrist.
	And so they're following what's in the prophecy.
	Again, you don't have to believe any of it, but if you want to understand your enemy, you got to understand what they're playing by, and they're going by the Bible.
	Well, a prophecy is a plan.
	Making it happen.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So they're pushing it along.
	They're like, oh, okay, it says that.
	So they're pushing it along.
	Which in many respects is even scarier than people actually believe in this.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, a prophecy is a plan.
	Yes.
	It's an ancient plan that gets repeated at certain cycles of time.
	Once you read that, the protocols of the elders of Zion and rules for radicals, you pretty much understand what's happening now and why it's happening now.
	They're going by those books.
	The Rules for Radicals, Protocols of Elders of Zion, and the Bible.
	Boom.
	As an agnostic, I can buy into the Protocols and Rules for Radicals, but that it's God's plan is a whole other kettle of fish.
	I just had a debate with a guy named Dustin Nemos last night about evolution, flat Earth, and a worldwide flood, which Victor Hugo kindly moderated.
	And, I mean, he was clearly giving a biblical base, and I was explained why.
	That's not a scientific approach, because these biblical claims even of the existence of God are incapable of being tested.
	You can't conduct any observation, experiments, or measurements that will establish either the existence of God on the one hand or the non-existence of God on the other.
	And therefore, there's not any objective basis for concluding there is a God, which is why it's an article of faith.
	But that's subjective.
	It can differ from person to person, from time to time, even the same person at different times, not only different persons at the same time.
	So there's a heavy degree of the subjectivity there.
	Joaquin, I want your thoughts.
	Well, I agree with you.
	That's why they call it a faith.
	I don't know.
	I feel like in order for me to survive this crazy effed up world, I have to believe in God.
	And so, you know, I rely on God.
	I pray to God and all this kind of stuff.
	It is an individual faith, and, you know, as much as I am, like, certain that there is an existence of God out there, obviously, I can't, like, say, okay, this is the way it is, because, you know, as you're pointing out, Jim, you know, it is subjective.
	But I feel in my heart and soul God exists.
	Thank God for that.
	Because otherwise we would be up the Schitt's Creek without a paddle.
	That's exactly where we are.
	But most of humanity agrees with you, of course, Victor Hugo.
	Jim, I would say take God and faith out of it and think of it more as a Uh, like a book of directions.
	If you buy a table and you want to put the table together, you're going to need the instruction manual.
	So whether God's going to help you put it together or your faith or whatever, no.
	But you need to know where the A peg goes into the B peg and what C has to do with D.
	And so that's what the Bible is.
	The Bible is their playbook, and they are playing each and every one of us.
	So take God out of it, because remember, they want to kill all non-Jews.
	That includes atheists, that includes agnostics, that includes Buddhists.
	So if you're a Buddhist and you don't believe in the Bible, you should be reading it, because that's what they're using to kill you.
	If you're an Amish, or whatever the heck you are, you need to understand the playbook, and that's what they're going by.
	So, you know, you can ignore the Bible all you want, and you can take God out of it.
	But I'm telling you, they've been following that guidebook.
	That's their guidebook.
	I find that fascinating.
	Russ, your thoughts?
	Well, there's another concept that enters into this called egregore.
	And egregore basically means a mindset or a groupthink.
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	Hi, this is the Maverick Artist 50 Higo.
	I'm joined by Joaquim Hagopian, Russell Winter, and our special guest Thomas.
	And Jim Fetzer's back.
	Take it away, Jim.
	Excellent, Hugo.
	Any of you guys, if I'm not here on this scene, you just take right over.
	You're doing great.
	We had another assassination attempt today.
	I got the call just before we went on the air.
	Jim, can I finish up where I was going?
	Oh, yeah.
	Russell, my mistake.
	Yeah, this is pretty important.
	I cut you off before the break.
	Go on.
	Okay, so the term is called Egregore, spelled E-G-R-E-G-O-R-E.
	I've got an article on this if you enter that in the search term, winterwatch.net, but let me give you what I think are the high points.
	It really gets us to the core of what we've been talking about lately.
	Egregore is an occult concept representing a thought form, a collective group mind, or a hive mind.
	It is an autonomous psychic entity made up and influencing the thoughts of a group of people.
	In psychology, the group mind is definitely recognized as one of the factors to be reckoned with in treatment.
	Egregore was a prominent interest in Jewish Kabbalah as well as British Israelism, the British Israelism occult.
	From the inner point of view, we may see it as a composite thought, high of mind, charged with emotional energy.
	So that's key, emotional energy.
	This energy is evoked from all those who are linked with the thought form.
	And if there are those in the groups who know something of the psyche, Mechanism involved, it can be directed upon any chosen target.
	It is obvious that such energy can be used for evil or control purposes.
	Egregore derives from a Greek word meaning watcher, a thought form created by will and visualization.
	So it's, you know, it's will, visualization, enhanced.
	And, you know, I also use the term black magic a lot.
	So it's a distinctive energy of a specific group, Really of musicians who are working together, creating and building the same thought form or energy form.
	That's kind of what we've been talking about of late.
	Sounds like mass mind control to me.
	It is.
	Yeah, definitely.
	But they do it as a group mind or hive mind.
	Yeah.
	And they get the non-Jews to do that through the Tel-Aviv vision and also through the music and through Hollywood.
	And that's why they have everybody convinced that there's more than two sexes and everything.
	are very powerful with their propaganda, which is like what Russell was saying, a form of mind control that creates a hive mind that manifests.
	And that's what they're trying to do.
	They're trying to manifest.
	The more than two sections is basically the occultic aspect of it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, from what I understand, egregores are placed at the front of certain financial buildings and other elite buildings that can animate and cause dark magic on people that go...
	Definitely.
	That's the fourth thought.
	They can animate.
	Something I didn't quite get.
	Is there a specific group you're talking about that sounds to me like some kind of group strategy or effort?
	Secret societies use it.
	It's the Jews, Jim.
	It's the Jews.
	Just to simplify it, it's the Jews.
	It's a tribal cult, a death cult.
	The Bible, Jesus called them the synagogue of Satan.
	Kabbalah.
	Kabbalism.
	That's what it is.
	Kabbalah.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure I have the concept exactly right.
	Are you talking about some appeal to occult forces that is supposed to be manifest for political purposes?
	Is that the idea?
	A lot of them, yeah.
	Kabbalah.
	You gotta study Kabbalah and the Zohar.
	Zohar.
	We gotta get out of our box, Jim.
	We gotta get out of our boxes, because you and I, you know, you and I are pretty much the same age.
	We think the same way.
	We're kind of agnostic.
	We're totally on the same page and so much stuff, but we gotta get out of our little box and go into their world a little bit and look at how their hive mind operates.
	They taught you that in the Marines.
	It's critical, otherwise what You know, breaking out of this spell is impossible if you don't understand it.
	Yeah, you gotta know your enemy.
	Know your enemy, Jim.
	What am I missing here?
	Tell me.
	Basically, people like Madonna, all the entertainers, not all, but a lot of entertainers.
	It is a cult, and it's an occultic cult.
	And it's based on ancient Kabbalism.
	And basically, it's a means of control, projecting outward mind control over the masses.
	And it appeals to emotion.
	Emotions are very much receptive to it.
	And that's why we have so many young people in the younger generations that are so vulnerable to this kind of mass mind influence.
	So yeah, it really needs to be uncovered because we know a little bit about it amongst ourselves, but not very many people really understand this whole depth of concept.
	And Jim, it's a Babylonian magic trick!
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	It's fueled by Babylonian magic, the illusion that this fiat currency that's printed out of nothing and backed by nothing actually is enough to make you sell your soul because like Joachim
	was just mentioning these people from Bob Dylan to P Diddy to all these people they'll admit to you that they have sold their souls and they didn't sell their souls for peanuts or for lettuce or for potatoes they sold their souls for the fiat currency which is a Babylonian magic trick which goes back and again that is the occult you brainwash people into believing hey you see this this It's worth something, and it's actually worth nothing.
	It's worth nothing, and that's part of what's happening in the apocalypse.
	The people are realizing that the money is worth nothing.
	That's why the Federal Reserve is meeting right now, and they're like, holy cow, the people are starting to realize that this is worth nothing.
	And understand who's at the top of the Federal Reserve.
	It's Janet Yellen, a Jew.
	Larry Fink, BlackRock, who owns everything, a Jew.
	And again, that's why I always say follow the money all the way to the top of the Babylonian magic trick that allows all this stuff to happen.
	It's the Babylonian magic trick.
	It's the occult.
	We're living in an occult world, a Talmudic world.
	So that's, and it doesn't matter if you're an atheist or an agnostic, Jim, you're in this world and they're controlling it.
	So you got to get out of this matrix.
	That's why, you know, I appreciate that you're atheist and agnostic and everything, but realize these freaking Jews are trying to kill you, you know?
	This is God.
	I've got that message.
	You know, the hardest thing to ever escape is the prison of your own mind.
	And it's what we've been taught and what we've been taught is also rubbish right down the line.
	And I agree with Victor.
	This is a dark magician cult.
	It comes from a group called the Covens.
	There was 13 of them.
	It's now down to two.
	It is falling down.
	And these are dark magicians and they perform acts that we think, in general, in our reality, cannot Turn up, but they do.
	And that's where we fall short, is we think that the God is going to come and save us, and the God is within us.
	We are the saviour.
	That's where people go wrong.
	People go external instead of internal.
	All the technology is internal.
	Everything.
	You know, we're part of the creator God spark, but these dark magicians have played for a long, long time.
	The original ninjas were egregores, as Russell's just talked about.
	They appear out of thin air, of thought form, which creates matter.
	And most people go, oh, that's off the charts.
	I can't believe that crap.
	And I get that, but we have to entertain it, because that is more of the real world than we would like to believe.
	Joaquin, I think it also goes back to Francis Dee in the Elizabethan times.
	It goes back to ancient times, and you touched on it, Victor.
	Babylonian, the Babylonian magic and the usury system of the money control.
	You know, I delved into this when I wrote the five books on pedophilia because it's so often is that these are a cult.
	These are cults practicing the occult and part of their practice behind all the closed doors.
	Stanley Kubrick did a little glimpse of Eyes Wide Shut.
	That was a little bit of glimpse, and he wanted to go and expose the pedophilia, but they killed him.
	He was basically, it was three hours and a half movie long, and he does his own film editing, and he was cutting it down to, you know, a more reasonable amount of about 245, and he didn't even finish it, and they killed him.
	He wasn't an old man and he wasn't in horrible health.
	But he was very fascinated with the occult and as a filmmaker, classic filmmaker, he had all the contacts and he knew the inside of Hollywood.
	And he was also involved in that whole moon landing that didn't really happen.
	They actually asked him to take over as the director for that.
	So yeah, and he started opening his mouth about that.
	That was another reason why they nailed him before.
	He made what appears to me to be an authentic confession you can find online today.
	I watched Eyes Wide Shut, but honest to me, it was kind of a mess and a flop.
	What's ironic, Jim, is that you probably are one of the leading experts in the world on black magic.
	I mean, look, I don't know that you'd label it that way, but you observe it and you have studied it.
	You're a master at this topic.
	Well, you gotta have that translated for me, Russ.
	I mean, I love the idea, but I don't know how I would... Well, just think of all the strangeness that you look at, and that I look at.
	Just look at how strange it is.
	You know, there's so many things that we've gone over, you and I together even, on different stuff, where it's just like, what the fuck?
	How many times have you said, what the fuck?
	Maybe you don't use that language like I do, but I mean, that's black magic.
	So you really are one of the leading experts in the world on this whole topic.
	You just haven't labeled it that way.
	I had no idea!
	Yeah, Jim, because the spellcasting that you catch with the MGM brand and the Boston bombing and the September 11th, that's all spellcasting, Jim.
	That's using Babylonian magic to pay the fake news media to lie about Building 7.
	That's using Babylonian magic.
	We're talking about Babylonian versus illusion, where they're seeking to cast the illusion as kind of a spell, and Russ has got it right, because, I mean, that's what you do, take these things apart.
	Yeah, and so that's why they see you as a threat, because you see past the veil, Jim.
	And again, you're confusing the religion and the Jesus and the God when, just like our guest Thomas said, God is in you, Jim.
	And you have the ability, as God, to see past the truth.
	And so they see you as a threat.
	So it's interesting that you're walking that line of atheist and agnostic when you don't even realize, like Russell Winter said, You are a master at seeing in the darkness.
	You can be an agnostic and recognize this stuff.
	You can see the illusions if you open your mind a certain way.
	But it has to take a certain personality.
	Sherlock Holmes-ian type of personality to do it.
	You don't necessarily have to throw back to God.
	I mean, I don't object to the use of God in all this process, the spirituality.
	But as has been said, that's a very individual thing.
	And I think Jim explained that very, very well.
	Every individual is subjective and looks at things differently.
	But that doesn't mean every individual can't see through the black magic and the illusion and come to grips with it.
	Yeah.
	Part of the problem is that... Go ahead.
	part of the problem is the mind as it's been proven can be controlled with thoughts and frequencies etc but there's more neurons in the heart if you go into the heart and out of the mind You will know the truth.
	That's where your discernment comes in.
	You know the truth.
	You may not like it.
	In fact, most of us don't like the truth, the reality.
	But it was interesting you touched on the word magic.
	The word faith has been mixed in with religion, but faith means knowledge.
	original and they've twisted the interpretations of words particularly in rule and also banking uh the language of latin which is also their language all came from there long long time ago we had the what was called the draco law in the 600s latin is a draco language it's all been mistranslated you've all seen the name changes of the
	anti-humanity group as i call them now not jews or israel they're going to call me anti-semitic i'm going to call them anti-humanity which is what they are but they have Twisted the language.
	The Bible says the Lord came down and scattered the people and changed all the languages.
	Why?
	Because the people that were here were coming together and that's the one thing that they cannot abide by or allow is us all coming together.
	We can all agree to disagree, agree on as much as we can and ignore the other parts that we don't agree on and go forward with what we do and come together because the people together, they cannot defeat.
	They know that.
	Joaquin, your thoughts, and then I want to turn to these assassination attempts.
	There's been a new one today.
	Number three!
	Car bomb, car bomb.
	Of course.
	It's hard not to touch that topic, but we'll get into it.
	Yeah, I think that They are the common denominator of so much of what they do is basically war, pedophilia, and the usury system.
	That's the means of control.
	And, of course, they use technology against us.
	And, you know, case in point is how they have Made a whole study of immunology and virology.
	And that's all test tube.
	That's all bioweapon shit that they're throwing at us.
	And they're not done yet.
	You know, the World Health Organization is going to come with more of their pandemic bullshit.
	And some of them are going to be lethal.
	They know that people are mistrusting the authorities now.
	After round one, and they're going to come back with something that's more lethal.
	So yeah, they're throwing every weapon of mass destruction at us right now, including World War III.
	We're on the verge now.
	So yeah, we're basically in the fight for our lives as the human race right now.
	Yeah, I think that's absolutely true.
	I think we'd all concur.
	That's just before we came on the air.
	I had a call from a friend telling me there'd been this third attempt to take him out, and it was a car bomb.
	I don't think it exploded, but that was the plan.
	And they set the intercept.
	I mean, we're going to be getting stories about this today.
	I don't have them at my fingertips, but I do have a lot about this last guy who was supposed to be recruiting mercenaries for Ukraine.
	He's a weird duck, and he has all kinds of criminal offenses for which he has been punished.
	I mean, it's pretty obvious this guy is a CIA asset.
	And his best question becomes, how did he get from Hawaii to the golf course, and how the hell would he know where Trump was located at what time?
	And the best I'm getting is DHS was giving the information to the FBI, and the FBI is running the assassins.
	Your thoughts, Joaquin?
	Yeah, I agree totally that he's from the inside.
	He's part of the intelligence, you know?
	The guy has talked to mass media many times in the past.
	He's very familiar with the controllers that are behind all this.
	So yeah, I think he's their latest patsy.
	But it's all inside job, you know?
	And a lot of it, it's theater.
	A lot of it's misdirection.
	They were trying to run away from the whole, what, the Haitians eating their pets and all that.
	They have to change the subject.
	They know that people have a short attention span.
	But yeah, I mean, I think we're going to be seeing more, you know, and it's hard to, you know, I don't want to think in terms that, well, it's the left doing it to the right, because, you know, I'm of the mindset that left, right, it doesn't matter.
	The same controllers control both sides.
	Yeah, but it's obvious they're targeting Trump because the Democrats can't defeat him.
	And I think we're going to see some Democrats taken out.
	Russ, your thoughts?
	Well, it was a stupid assassination attempt.
	The guy, the way I understand the story, the guy's hiding in a bush in the vicinity of... Twelve hours!
	Twelve hours.
	Okay.
	And it's not really clear exactly how this is all laid out.
	I mean, I haven't really seen too much description.
	He was on the edge of the golf course, and it was one secret service agent who was in advance of the golfing party, including Trump, who was 300 to 500 yards away, who spotted the rifle extruding through the fence Okay, so it would have been a really long shot assassination attempt.
	Oh, no, no, no, no!
	He was waiting for him to come to the hole in his vicinity, see?
	That's how the secret service team thought he was on the advanced hole, the next hole.
	How the hell could he know that, see?
	It's preposterous.
	Well, he had an AK-47, so it wasn't really a sniper.
	He's just gonna just start blasting away, I guess, when they're on the... Well, but if he had a party there and they weren't very close, I mean, you could probably take them all out.
	That might have been his plan.
	But, of course, it's not a good weapon for a sniper.
	No, and then somehow he escapes, goes down the highway 50 miles, and they finally apprehend him.
	They took him 50 miles to finally pull the guy over.
	run from the bushes and, couldn't you believe, took a photograph of the car and got the license plate number.
	So I gave it to the local sheriff and notified the county where he was heading.
	It took him 50 miles to finally pull the guy over.
	I mean, that's absurd.
	Well, no, no, no, no, Russell.
	I mean, he got in his car and took off.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	They got the witness who had taken the photograph, and then they got the witness.
	Oh, it took a while.
	OK, it took a while to transfer that information.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't think there's anything wrong with the timeline.
	This all looked totally authentic to me, except for the guy.
	He's such an obvious asset.
	I mean, this is just stupid, in my opinion.
	Victor, Hugo, have you thoughts about this?
	Of course I do.
	And you guys know.
	It's the Jews again.
	Alejandro Mallorca is in charge of the security service for the president, right?
	So he hired a DEI woman for the Butler, Pennsylvania one.
	And of course, the reason the Jews hired the DEIs is because they're able to be the Paxies.
	And so they fired her.
	And who did they bring in?
	They brought in the guy who was actually in charge of the security in Butler, Pennsylvania and made him the new Secret Service head.
	Now, again, you got to understand, And he's not only not only is he allowing this to happen by design because he's allowing Gehrborn Michigan to be replaced by Syrians, Colorado to be replaced by Venezuelans, Ohio with Haitians and Minnesota with Somalians. Ohio with Haitians and Minnesota with Somalians.
	That's all by design.
	It's part of the Calergi Plan, the destruction of Idom, which is the United States.
	They also want to create this situation where they get targeted with specific ethnic groups, specifically Ohio, Haitians, Baha'is.
	Yeah.
	He's the one who's orchestrating all this.
	The grand plan.
	The one with the master chessboard here of where to put the illegals.
	Yeah.
	And now they've got the people that are doing the investigations, the FBI, Christopher Wray.
	Who does the FBI work for?
	The Federal Reserve, the central banks, just like the CIA.
	Look, look, look.
	What's different here is DeSantis has taken control of this guy.
	DeSantis hasn't taken control over anything.
	DeSantis was a puppet, and they were running him, when I say they, just like J.D.
	Vance.
	In Florida, Victor Hugo, don't get carried away with almost everyone being on the same fucking side.
	I don't buy that.
	We got individual differences or state differences or even party differences, however much we want to talk about the masters behind the scene.
	DeSantos did a good thing by having a Florida investigation of a Florida crime and not turn him over to the FBI, which would have whitewashed the whole thing.
	They're very nervous that they are going to take this guy out before he starts spilling the beans to the Florida investigators.
	Joaquin, would you agree with that?
	I agree with that too, Jeff.
	I don't trust DeSantis, but it's a good thing that he's got Florida at least trying to work on what's behind it, because obviously if it's the feds, forget it.
	We already know the answer.
	The FBI were wiping computers and cell phones clean in Las Vegas, for crying out loud.
	People who thought they'd help, you know.
	Of course, it was phony, but the point is they were wiping them clean.
	I mean, the FBI is for shit.
	It's unbelievable!
	And this is part of the reason they're all in.
	Trump is gonna clean them out.
	He's gonna- Jim, I lived in Florida, and I lived a bike ride away from Mar-a-Lago.
	And you can look this up.
	I lived on Millionaire's Row and Hillsboro Mile.
	So I used to be able to, I know that you have A1A in that area.
	There's no way that this guy could have gotten into those bushes without somebody seeing him.
	Right, right.
	In order for him to get to I-95, he had to pass by Dixie Highway, Federal Highway, and a bunch of other intersections with lights and everything.
	And during this time of year, there's traffic there.
	So again, if we're expecting and believing that if because a civilian, just like in Butler, if it weren't for the civilians, that means that the FBI that, and I know what you're saying, that, you know, it's not everything a conspiracy.
	But Jim, you're the master of looking at conspiracies.
	I'm surprised that you're giving these people so much credit.
	They were able to pull off September 11th.
	They were able to pull off MGM Grant.
	You don't think they could pull off this?
	And the changes, I'll revise my opinion.
	I'm just saying where I stand now, Russ, I want you in on this.
	Well, it seems like the end game, the real end game on this is to assassinate him.
	Yeah.
	And then you got it.
	And then you're going to have a fucking civil war.
	That's the end game.
	And that's going after Edom.
	That goes, that goes back to our Egregor, our mine, uh, We got another break, gentlemen.
	I'm so glad to have you all here.
	Thomas, we're delighted.
	a civil war in the United States.
	A real or fake assassination of Trump would be a big part of that.
	We've got another break, gentlemen.
	I'm so glad to have you all here.
	Thomas, we're delighted.
	We'll be right back.
	Thank you.
	We'll be right back.
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	I had a call from a listener over the break telling us that when Russ started talking after the break for 15 minutes, he got dead air.
	He couldn't hear anything.
	Then it came back.
	You may be the hot mic of today, my friend.
	Meanwhile, here you have John Rappaport, a smart guy, talking about this guy, Ryan Roth, and how odd it is that he's committed all these crimes when he seemed to pay no penalty.
	Think about it.
	Ryan Roth, the would-be assassin, has an extensive criminal history.
	He was arrested more than 70 times from 1996 to 2014.
	In 2002, he was convicted of possession of a fully automatic machine gun after standoff with police in North Carolina.
	Time in prison for that 2002 conviction, according to press report, no time, zero.
	He was placed on probation.
	What?
	In fact, for the 70 charges and the conviction for bad checks, receiving stolen goods, drugs, weapons, vehicular violations, Ronald barely received either a total of no time or a very minor amount.
	I can't find out which.
	Either way, it makes no sense.
	And that's a major red flag.
	What the hell was going on with this guy and his relationship with law enforcement all those years?
	And oh, by the way, The charge of possessing an automatic machine gun is called possessing a weapon of mass destruction.
	That's how serious courts and judges consider it.
	Plus, Ruth resisted arrest at the time and yet no prison?
	Only probation?
	Okay, so this guy's a special person.
	Very special.
	How was he specially connected?
	Was he specially connected to big-time people?
	Does some federal agency have plans for him?
	Then we have Ralph Zabrit to recruit him from various countries, including Afghanistan, to fight for Ukraine in the Legion, a military group connected to Ukrainian ground forces.
	It is apparently close ties to the Ukrainian military.
	Independent reporters understandably infer that during his time in Ukraine he was in contact with U.S.
	military and intel, so let's see.
	Military intel connections, treated with astonishing kid blood by law enforcement for more than a decade, placed on a golf course to assassinate Trump.
	Starting back in 1996, was Ralph being groomed to be an assassination of Patsy?
	And that's why he was kept out of prison?
	At the time of this, Ryan, we're being told an interesting story, to say the least.
	Remarkably, on the golf course, a Secret Service agent happened to spot the end of his weapon stupidly sticking out of the bushes along the long line of the woods.
	The agent fired shots at Ralph.
	Ralph Fladner happened to be a witness right there.
	You took a snapshot of Ralph's car and the license tag and contacted police.
	Otherwise, law enforcement would still be searching for an unknown person.
	If this whole storyline was planned ahead of time, what was the purpose to kill Trump?
	To stage an almost assassination and have the Patsy caught?
	Your thoughts, Russ.
	Yours first.
	My God.
	I hadn't heard that.
	That just has intelligence agents written all over it.
	In fact, maybe even too much so.
	Almost too blatant in your face.
	There might be some kind of a razzle-dazzle going on here, but it's a pretty amazing set of circumstances that this guy's walking around the world involved with recruiting foreign legion for Ukraine.
	I don't know if you've ever seen the Illuminati card game, but the guys One of the cards in the Luminary Car Game related assassinations called The Second Attempt has a dead ringer for this guy.
	Really?
	Love it.
	You want to see it?
	You want to see it?
	Sure, sure.
	Pull it up.
	I can let you screen share.
	Yeah, I'll show you this.
	That's what she said, Russell.
	What?
	All right. - A little humor there.
	I missed it.
	Go ahead.
	So that whole story makes about as much sense as, uh, anchovy, pineapple, peanut butter, pizza.
	Yeah, I'm all ready.
	None of that makes any sense.
	Yeah, just as you guys were suggesting, you know.
	I mean, it's all theater.
	It's the Manchurian candidates.
	It's the MK Ultra again.
	And the wildest thing is, the people that are behind it are the ones doing the investigation.
	Alejandro Mayorkas, Merrick Garland.
	Yeah, see, if he'd turn them over to the FBI, we'd never hear of this guy again.
	He'd just disappear and they'd say, it's under investigation.
	We'd never hear another word about Joaquin.
	The big question for me is obviously at stage.
	He's been groomed from the inside, you know, for being a patsy.
	He's a professional patsy.
	But the big question becomes, is he acting on behalf of Alejandro Mayorkas, the Jews, Or is he on behalf of the bigger picture, which means that Trump might even be involved in this?
	You know, we don't know.
	We don't know.
	Look at that!
	I was convinced, I was convinced with four articles on it, I ended up convinced that that last one in Butler, he didn't have an ear injury.
	You see the image?
	He might be going along with this one, too.
	I see it, I see it, I see it.
	Or more, you know, he was afraid that Kamala was getting a little bit too big.
	So every time, you know, he gets a lot more, he's the hero.
	God's saving him for humanity and all this kind of crap.
	It depends on how big it goes.
	So damage performance?
	Okay, I'll stop sharing.
	We liked it.
	Yeah.
	That was good stuff.
	Good stuff, Sharon.
	Yeah.
	What do you think about that, Jim?
	There's too many coincidences with those Illuminati cards from the September 11th.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But again, it's got to be, it's like with the Biblical, that they're using them as a guide.
	It's not that they're actually predicting the future.
	They're acting to conform to the cards so we can be baffled about it.
	No, that's a great catchphrase.
	I think we're onto something big.
	You know, we're finally, you know, we're kind of getting all these weird events that we just noticed as a group and other people noticed, and finally connecting the dots about what this is really all about.
	Did you see the cover of Time magazine had Donald Trump in a sand trap in his golf cart?
	Did you see that?
	These are symbols.
	They're sending these symbols out to their patsies, to their sleeper cells.
	It's not a coincidence that just days before that happened, Time magazine on the cover has a photo of Donald Trump in his golf cart in a sand trap.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Suggestive that something fateful could be happening to him on the course.
	A friend also told me that Newsweek is saying Kamala's taking Virginia.
	They've just begun voting.
	I mean, this is an absurd, but that's what they would do if they're trying to plant the seed that there's going to be an upset and she's going to beat Trump.
	Joaquin, would you agree?
	I mean, Newsweek calling out when they've just begun voting.
	How stupid is that, Joaquin?
	Well, you know, they have not changed any of the pauses of the last stolen presidential election.
	They're going to do it again.
	They're determined to do it again.
	You know, so it's one group of crooks versus the other group of crooks, you know.
	It's a duopoly, uniparty system, and the same controllers are behind both.
	But there are deep state elements within each of these parties, you know, and they want control.
	There is that more minor level of power, and then there's the larger power with the puppet strings that are controlling the world.
	So that's how I see it.
	And we don't know at this point whether Trump was in on it like he was on the last one.
	He was in on the last one.
	He might have been in on this.
	We need to find out.
	Yeah, I'd be very surprised.
	I think they actually do want to kill him.
	I do think this was intended to send a message that if you stop the war in Ukraine, this guy's so obviously pro-Ukraine.
	Some of his statements, he was interviewed in Romania.
	They were almost childlike in their naivete, saying most wars are great, but this one's black and white.
	He went on to say how virtuous are the Ukrainians, they're generous, they help one another, they're charitable.
	You'd have thought they were, you know, a group of priests or nuns for crying out loud.
	It was absurd!
	And that everything was bad about good and evil.
	I mean, he was laying it all out there.
	I think this was intended to send up the message that if you want to end the war in Ukraine, this could happen to you.
	Thomas, your thought?
	Well, these are all events to change the narrative.
	The thing is, they're losing the narrative, big time.
	People are waking up to the Jewish problem, people are waking up to the government problem, etc, etc.
	You know, does it matter whether Trump wins or Harris wins?
	Absolutely not.
	Because what really should matter, and the real focus of all Americans, and I live here, is we return The bona fide government from 1871.
	Not this corporation.
	So it doesn't matter whether it's Trump, it's Harris, it's Biden, it's Bush, it's Obama.
	It's all part of a corrupt corporation that has run both parties, and remember, parties of the clowns.
	And they're all clowns.
	And we restore what was original to America, not the US, which is the UN, and not U.S.
	which is British territorial.
	Neither of them are anything to do with America.
	So we can argue over Trump or Harris or Biden.
	The point is, we need the proper government reinstalled.
	Well, we all do.
	I have no doubt.
	Joaquin, your thoughts?
	I agree.
	Since 1871, we've lived under the Crown Court and the maritime law, and our government is not for the people like they say it's supposed to be.
	And it's never been more clear that it's a uniparty-controlled system, and the government does not operate in the interests of the people.
	It's been this way a long, long time.
	But now people are finding out slowly too slow, but they are finding out that the whole system is corrupt.
	And so we have to dig deeper.
	Behind all the facade and the misdirection, the wag the dog, you know, it's all coming at us.
	I mean, every other day, I mean, like, OK, here comes another assassination attempt.
	I mean, it's getting crazy, you know, because they're afraid of losing control.
	That's it.
	The crown is benign.
	Berithish.
	Berithish.
	You know, I still insist there are real differences.
	I mean, Kamala keep the war going.
	Trump's going to shut it down.
	Kamala's going to keep the wars going.
	I do think Trump, at the very least, is going to shut down the Ukraine.
	He's going along with the slaughter of the Palestinians, which I deplore.
	He's going to do a lot of things.
	He's going to do all this fracking.
	He's going to make us oil and energy independent again.
	He's going to recharge the economy.
	I think there actually are real differences between the parties, notwithstanding that there could be interests lurking in the background that are usually thought to be responsible.
	Russ, your thoughts?
	I'm just kind of sticking with my main theory that there's a civil war coming and this is going to be a spark.
	Almost like Archduke Ferdinand in 1914.
	Given this third attempt, I think that some Democrats are going to get knocked off.
	I think we're going to see that heckling, see how they like it.
	I don't think there's any doubt that Democrats want to take out Trump.
	I mean, look at the lawfare, the impeachment.
	I mean, it's endless.
	They've just run out of options, so they're out to kill him.
	Victor Hugo.
	I think whether Trump wins or not is inconsequential, because you're right.
	They're out to kill him, so if he does win, it's better for them because then they'll poison him or do whatever they have to.
	They've obviously infiltrated the Secret Service.
	They'll kill him and then they'll have eight years of JD Vance, which is Governor Ron DeSantis-like.
	And he's totally connected with Peter Thiel, and he's owned by the central banks, Larry Fink and all that stuff.
	A lot of people aren't looking into the connection with this and Blackrock, just like Blackrock was involved with the Butler of Pennsylvania assassination.
	And one of the things that I noticed with this second attempted assassination guy, he looks like some of the mercenaries that I've seen here in the Republic of Georgia.
	And this is where a lot of them come to train.
	So I've seen these guys, they go into the mountains, there are a bunch of them, they go with the Georgian mercenaries and Most of the mercenaries that are fighting in Ukraine right now are either Polish, Georgian, or from the United States.
	So, I wouldn't doubt that this guy had some connection and that it'll come out that he was in the Republic of Georgia.
	You know, this Russian attack on Poltava, they killed a bunch of foreign mercenaries.
	Polish?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	And Georgian.
	That was the target.
	Yeah, also nobody's talking about the Lugar Biolab and the connection that the Lugar Biolab has here.
	It makes me so mad that billionaires pay less in taxes.
	The Bush family was here.
	They even have a George Bush Boulevard here.
	The CIA came here.
	The CIA has been funding all sorts of biological weapon creation here and nobody's talking about that.
	I want to get into it.
	We've got Redact, and this guy's quite brilliant.
	He's got some things to say here.
	Let's check this out.
	Yeah, this guy is good.
	He's groomed by the CIA.
	We're learning a lot more about this clown this morning, including that he had a book out that you can read if you'd like, his self-published book.
	It's called Ukraine's Unwinnable War, in which he urged Iran to assassinate Donald Trump.
	But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
	The very first Twitter account that followed his Twitter account is an ex-CIA agent.
	Was this his handler?
	We don't know.
	The Deep State constantly uses useful idiots like Ryan Routh.
	So what do we know about the CIA and how the CIA deploys these useful idiots?
	Let's ask a former CIA agent, Michael Scheuer.
	He spent 22 years working at the CIA.
	He's written four books on how America needs to get out of these conflicts around the world, including Ukraine and the Middle East, and focus instead on the United States of America.
	That has to piss off a lot of people at the CIA, and that's why I would love to have Michael on the show.
	Michael, welcome back.
	Good to see you.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you for having me.
	So just when you started to see these details emerging about Ryan Routh, he's not some just random lone gunman guy with an axe to grind.
	All of these connections are starting to emerge.
	Did that surprise you?
	And what do you make of it?
	Well, I don't think it can surprise us too much.
	And I think most Americans may be surprised by it, but it's simply because the media doesn't cover it.
	Both the United States Special Forces and the CIA's paramilitary groups are One of their major jobs is training foreigners, foreigners who we want to help win or want to do a particular job for us.
	There's a lot of hoo-ha about special forces, paramilitary forces in the United States.
	They can't win wars.
	Their fighting is important in certain tactical instances, like killing bin Laden, if that happened.
	But what they mostly use for is for training foreigners in the Ukraine In Vietnam, everywhere in the world, that there is a chance for the federal government in this country to get us involved in somebody's cause that they like.
	Those people are there.
	And grooming is mostly just, you know, training.
	They become proficient in arms, proficient in tactics.
	But personal friendships is an enormous amount of espionage.
	And you recruit people as your agents at the agency, at the Defense Intelligence Agency, at Special Forces.
	One of the characteristics you're looking for is an ability to project themselves as friends, as colleagues.
	And so it's not all that a complicated process.
	It's expensive.
	And sometimes it doesn't work.
	If you bet on the wrong horse, like this character in Florida, you put a whole lot of money and a whole lot of time into something that didn't work.
	But that's basically the way it goes.
	I guess grooming is a good enough word for it.
	You're grooming people to be fighters first, clever people tactically, and most of all loyal to their backers.
	So it's kind of an espionage development of a person, but it's also a military one.
	And, you know, languages are always a problem.
	You're never quite sure about what's going on around you.
	And so the idea that people can become investors in their own work is possible.
	But also someone you trained three years ago, you may run into a situation where you're You have a use for them now, and with the money that any U.S.
	government agency can offer for a job, whether it's gathering intelligence or killing somebody, those people generally are going to be hard to, it's going to be hard for them to refrain from doing their bidding.
	I mean, here's a guy who was trained at Fort Bragg.
	I gotta go back to shut it off.
	Give me a sec.
	Oh, damn, damn, damn.
	This is one of my shortcomings here is getting his story going and now shutting it off.
	Oh, damn, damn, damn.
	And you can see this by the way.
	This is one of my shortcomings here.
	Stipulated about his...
	Getting his story going and now shutting it off.
	Would that be something the CIA would do and be a part of this?
	Try to pause it.
	Someone using someone like this.
	Yeah, I will if I can't.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Very good.
	Well, let's start with Joaquin.
	This guy was trained at Fort Bragg.
	Give me a break.
	Your thoughts.
	Obviously, he's a plant in the system.
	They've groomed him for years for this.
	You know, it's totally self-evident.
	All you need is a few basic facts.
	So we know a lot.
	We know that there is an element within our government that has put him out there.
	Now, it could be a total theater setup within the government.
	Or it could be that the Democrats really want Trump dead, or it's total theater for the government because wag the dog attention spans.
	I doubt the Democrats want him dead.
	My own wife wants him dead.
	I mean, it's insane.
	She's just gone full hog.
	You know, she believes everything on MSNBC.
	I can't begin to tell you how much political nonsense I'm exposed to.
	Giving me an appreciation of how the other side is approaching this matter.
	It's lunatic.
	Victor Hugo, your thoughts?
	It's a small world.
	I met that guy, Michael Schur in the green room at the Fox News when I did the interview with Megyn Kelly.
	And we had quite an interesting conversation there.
	So it's a really, really small world.
	It's good to see him again.
	And yeah, he's one of the good guys.
	That's why I know that not everybody in the CIA or the FBI are bad guys.
	There are guys like him out there.
	But again, going back to what I'm witnessing here on the ground in the Republic of Georgia.
	The CIA is all over this place, and they're trying to do a color revolution before the election, which is coming up on October 26th.
	And they sent Mike Pompeo here during the last election because they tried to steal the election during 2020 here, and he came over here on a secret mission that really wasn't reported in the United States, and he was trying to tamp things down.
	They didn't go for it like they went for it in the United States.
	These people stormed the parliament, and they made sure that the rightful president was put in.
	Right now, the Georgians just passed a, the parliament unanimously passed a restrictive anti-LGBTQ law.
	They're not putting up with- I'm glad you bring that up.
	I'm glad you bring that up.
	Fascinating.
	Elaborate.
	I mean, this anti-LGBTQ whatever is a good thing in my book.
	Well, I've been watching it on the ground here, how the U.S.
	has CIA spooks all over the place and they all stand out.
	That's why I said that guy looks familiar.
	And I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out of the next coming days that he came here and was training here.
	The thing is, they try to do these false flags here.
	Like, they're really pushing the whole LGBTQ thing here.
	This is an Orthodox Christian country.
	They don't want this here.
	I was here during what they tried to do was a gay pride week.
	And they, this first day, I think it was the first or second day, they killed by beating to death one of the reporters here.
	Because they said that the reporter was part of this propaganda that they were trying to spread.
	And that didn't really make much world headlines, but they literally beat the guy to death.
	So that whole thing was tamped down.
	And then they're also trying to do this.
	They're calling it the Russian law, because the United States is trying to spend money to influence these people like they did during the COVID pandemic.
	I'll tell you the background story.
	I was trying to do a show here.
	And the people who are the TV owners, they said, listen, Vic, we love your idea, but we're getting money from the World Health Organization, the UN and the United States to keep pumping out the fear.
	So no matter how much we like your show, your show is not going to make us enough money.
	And they literally were so brazen, they told me about this.
	So they had everybody here with the 24-7 of wear the mask and take the jab and all that stuff.
	But the people here, they didn't go for it.
	They seem to have remembered what it was like during the USSR.
	So they're really trying, when I say they, the United States with the CIA is all over this place.
	They're trying to incite a color revolution here.
	And that's because we are right on the border with Russia.
	They did it with Saakashvili.
	If you look back into the history with that, that was started by the CIA.
	And Russia ended up coming in here and taking up very useful areas for them near the Black Sea.
	So if they try to do it here again, I don't think these people are going to go for it, really.
	But I know the U.S.
	is here trying to incite things with the CIA.
	Russ, your further thoughts?
	I heard something in that narrative of that recording.
	Okay, we're hitting a break.
	We're going to continue with Russ right after the break.
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	Yes, as Victor Hugo observed, Russell was cut off when he began talking about the Jewish occult, and I believe it may have been censorship in real time.
	Joaquin has a new piece on censorship now on the government rag, which I'll be republishing.
	The other point, the Intel guy, He was talking as though they really had killed Osama in Pakistan when he died ten years later in Tora Bora and was buried in an Anmar grave.
	That bothered me just a tad.
	Ross, yours.
	I heard a trifecta in that interview that stood out to me.
	And it really fits into this destroy Edom theme that we've been exploring.
	And the assassination of Trump would at least delay the Peace efforts between, you know, to kind of wrap up the war between Ukraine and Russia.
	And by the way, Russia is about ready to go on a big offensive.
	So that would be put aside if Trump was assassinated.
	Secondly, there's talk about blaming the Trump assassination on Iran.
	That's always been kind of in the background and bringing that to the forefront for the cognoscente.
	And then finally, The third blow against EDOM or America would be a lot of disruption and civil war in the United States.
	You'd have a trifecta.
	Very good.
	Joaquin.
	I think all this wag the dog has a lot to do with not facing the reality that we are inches from World War III.
	They're getting desperate with Ukraine.
	The West doesn't have any more weapons to send them.
	They're depleted.
	Kursk invasion.
	They've already wiped out over half the population of, what, 28,000 or whatever, the Ukrainians that went in.
	And they're already, you know, knocked out 15,000 of them or so.
	That thing's only gonna last another week or two at the very most, I believe, and those guys are trapped.
	They're also, I mean, Ukraine is going down, and yes, they are getting ready for a major offensive, not only with Kursk to finish them off, but also Further in, they've made a lot of progress in eastern Donbass, in that region.
	They're finally taking that town, Provox or something like that.
	So yeah, there's a lot of progress there, and they're getting desperate now.
	And also, Israel.
	They're still going at it with what we started the show with.
	That's going to catch on and be bigger, and the U.S.
	is right behind them.
	There's so much that's going to go down in the next, and I've been saying for over a year now, They're going to wreck it so that I don't even believe there's going to be an election.
	I think there's going to be such havoc in the next, what, five weeks prior to the election.
	It's going down.
	What did Klaus Schwab say a couple of weeks ago?
	There's going to be a series of chaotic events before the election.
	And of course, he knew because he was involved in the planning.
	Thomas?
	Yeah, they have many plans.
	From what I was told yesterday, we were 72 minutes from war on Saturday.
	As Russia has certain types of weapons that the Americans don't, and they always have, and they were going to launch The Pentagon didn't agree with Starmer, who's ran by Trevor Chin, who's a Jew, and his wife is also Jewish, and they wanted to fire weapons deep into Russia and the Pentagon pulled back on it.
	Biden agreed to it and the Pentagon said no.
	The Pentagon now knows that they're a sitting duck also.
	This whole country is a sitting duck.
	We've given all our missiles away to Israel, Ukraine and NATO and whoever else.
	We've got nothing to defend with.
	Nothing.
	Yep, yep.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	In fact, a reporter asked Biden when he declined the latest request for weapons from Ukraine.
	He said, we have no more munitions.
	You can't believe a guy in that office.
	I mean, he's a fake.
	He's four inches taller than the earlier fake.
	And nobody's calling him out.
	But he said, we have no munitions as said.
	Where the hell does that leave us if we got to fight a war, Russell?
	You couldn't write a better script, how this is all kind of coming together, all these factors, all this trifecta.
	And more and more I think about it, I think some version of an assassination, a successful assassination, will be the Sarajevo of our era.
	Yeah, I think they're going to try again, I do.
	And the United States is really going to get bloodied.
	They really are.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I'm like, you'd have to go all the way back to the Civil War and this is going to be one hell of a mess.
	I think that's true.
	I'm going to open the lines for callers.
	608-957-8727.
	callers, 608-957-8727. 608-957-8727.
	608-957-8727.
	Anyone would like to speak to Thomas or the fearsome four, you've She's so beautiful.
	in.
	Victor Hugo, you knew this guy, that's how funny.
	What was your take on Megyn Kelly?
	I'm intrigued by that too.
	She was like kryptonite.
	She's so beautiful.
	It was tough to do an interview with her because she started trying to put me into a corner and all I could look at her, she was But I was able to make it through that interview without a problem.
	One of the things I want to warn you about, Jim, is that you really need to put your running shoes on.
	Because if that meeting today with the Federal Reserve doesn't go well, and those Haitians stop getting their free money for food, you're going to have to start running for your life, because forget about the dogs.
	You would feed a Haitian family for at least two days, Jim.
	Yeah, for at least two days the Haitian family you'd feed.
	That's people aren't realizing is that once the EBT's run out and all the food stamps and all that stuff runs out.
	Yeah, they're they're gonna turn on the Americans and most Americans right now, especially the bleeding hearts that don't have a gun and don't believe in the Second Amendment.
	They're toast.
	So that's how this whole thing is going to start.
	We do have a couple of callers on the line.
	870, join the conversation, please.
	Good morning, Professor.
	This is Gary in Arkansas.
	Yeah, Gary.
	The Revolution Radio Studio B internet access has been down since the show started.
	Really?
	Of course, of course.
	Access went down in 25 minutes after.
	Thanks, Russell.
	You started talking about the Jews, Russell.
	You better take care of your phones and take them out of your pockets.
	I wasn't talking about the cult.
	I was talking about the cult.
	Come on, man.
	The cult is not done.
	Censorship on steroids.
	Yeah, go ahead, Gary.
	Go ahead.
	So I'm looking forward to seeing the show posted on your bit show.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because I have made a video.
	Yeah, I've been recording the whole thing.
	Victor reminded me to hit that record button about 30 seconds into the show.
	Good for you, Victor.
	Good for you.
	Gary, what else you got?
	OK, this is the story about my travels through St.
	Louis, Missouri in the summer of 2005.
	I drove through that city about 1 o'clock in the morning.
	And I listened to a talk radio show.
	The topic of the discussion was the unauthorized launch of a Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile from a silo in Iowa.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Most of the discussion was about why these airmen would do something like that.
	Did they actually launch?
	That's what the show claimed.
	Right?
	So the discussion was primarily about were these people bribed?
	You know, was this treason?
	Or are they just stupid or what?
	I don't believe any of that.
	I think it was a mechanical malfunction combined with some kind of defect in their procedures that resulted in this unauthorized launch.
	But what I considered to be important was not, you know, what they may have done or not done.
	What I thought was important was the was to claim that that launched Minuteman III missile landed in a pasture in Indiana.
	It landed in a pasture in Indiana.
	The furthest you can be in Iowa from Chicago is 450 miles.
	Yeah, so it didn't go anywhere.
	So at the most, A pasture in Indiana is only about 500 miles.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So this gave me the idea in the summer of 2005 that maybe those 400 Minuteman missiles that the Air Force has out there are not real.
	So I said, well, what can I do as a amateur scientist?
	And I remembered the rocket equation that I had read about when I was 10 years old in the public library books in Arkansas.
	And the rocket equation was published in the 1920s or 30s.
	And it tells you the amount of fuel that will produce a certain velocity change in a rocket.
	So basically, a rocket's range depends on the amount of fuel.
	Sure.
	The Minuteman III has an advertised range of 12,000 miles.
	Right?
	And it weighs 80,000 pounds, right?
	A German V-2 rocket weighs about 40,000 pounds, and it has a range of 200 miles.
	Actually, it's 180 miles.
	Gary, give us a bottom line.
	You're saying you think maybe all these missiles are just for theater, that they aren't real?
	Yes, sir.
	What I'm saying is that they probably won't work.
	If they do work, they probably will not make it to the border of the United States.
	Oh, that's fascinating.
	Listen, we got another caller, 408.
	I want to bring him in.
	Gary, you can hang on.
	Hang on.
	We'll come back.
	408, join the conversation.
	408, I think it's Paul.
	Yeah, well, you know, I just thought the comment So Jim, you know, you often make astute observations.
	I heard you make one on Monday's show with very good guests.
	And of course, this one was a lot easier.
	Yeah, what the caller Gary here basically was just saying is another example of the fraud and fakery of the world.
	So he may be correct, I'm going to assume he is, if he's looked into the equations as far as the weight and the fuel and so forth.
	Because I always wondered, How far away exactly was London and surrounding areas that they were hitting with the V-2 rockets?
	You know, that's an interesting sort of, you know, exercise.
	So yeah, you know, we all just assume, without really knowing for sure, we all just assume that the world we're presented with by the presenters of the world is actually true.
	And in many cases it may not be.
	But one of the reasons I called, I wanted to find out more, because earlier in the discussion before you went off the air, you were talking about Taiwan and then Hungary, and I wasn't sure exactly what the connection was.
	They were manufactured in Taiwan, but they were modified in Hungary?
	Yeah, weaponized in Hungary.
	The explosive device was added in Hungary and then sent to Jordan to get Hezbollah.
	Well, I wonder too if you really need an explosive device, because if you look at some of these things you can see on YouTube about these little lithium-ion batteries exploding, it's quite frightening, and I wonder if there's a way for them to What a can of worms that would be, because that would just open up the whole world to attack.
	They have that technology.
	That exists already.
	I did with Scott Bennett.
	I said exactly that.
	I said, I think they just figured a way to activate the lithium-ion battery.
	What a can of worms that would be, because that would just open up the whole world to attack.
	They have that technology.
	That exists already.
	So that is a real probability.
	And that's something that Israel has already shown, that they're willing to attack anybody anywhere.
	So people need to realize Israelis are a bunch of psychopaths.
	The Hooties ended up with a long-range missile that went into Tel Aviv!
	A hypersonic!
	A hypersonic, yeah!
	They landed near Tel Aviv!
	I mean, this is fantastic!
	I love these Hooties!
	God, are they magnificent warriors!
	And they've got a lot more of those.
	That was just a warning to them, to let them know, hey, listen, we can get past your Air defense system, they've got a whole bunch more than that.
	Paul, go ahead, Paul.
	Go ahead, Paul.
	No, I was just going to say, you know, be careful what you wish for, you know.
	Yeah, interesting times.
	I'm not sure how much explosive force is in a battery versus, I mean, can they put enough little, I mean, I think C4 is the only thing that I know, maybe the I'm sure they have more exotic things we don't know about, but I was wondering if you could put enough C4 in a pager to really, you know, cause somebody, well, they say, the report is people died versus being injured, but just the insidious nature.
	And Victor, you go once said on the show, you know, that one of his better summations about the fact is that they're trying to kill you.
	Okay.
	So they're trying to kill us.
	And that's the thing that's hard for people to understand.
	Of course, they had it wired so all these explosions took place at the same time, and they had to do that because otherwise, once you know about it, you're going to get the hell as far away from your major as you can.
	Joaquin, I think you were saying they already know how to blow up the ion lithium batteries?
	Yeah, I think there's technology, electromagnetics, that we don't really even know about that affect the lithium.
	So, yeah, I mean, they have all kinds of hidden technologies that we don't even know about that are weaponized, and they're using them now.
	So, expect more, more havoc in the next month.
	We don't even have that much longer before November 5th.
	There's going to be a lot of hell to pay before November 5th.
	I'm just wondering, as an alternative to Gary's point about this Minuteman coming down in Indiana, could they have interfered, you know, once the improper launch, could they have brought it down and controlled it so that it didn't do any damage internationally?
	Gary, does that cross your mind?
	Well, I don't think there's an off switch on a Minuteman missile.
	I think once they go, you know, they're autopilot.
	Well, it's certainly worthless to have a Minuteman that can't get any further than from Iowa to Indiana.
	There's 400 of those Minuteman 3s that have been in service since 1970.
	Yeah.
	Think about this, Jim.
	I was going to say, and this is for the rest of the panel, too, to consider.
	When we come to the conclusion, which is inescapable because, you know, Jim, you did your research on this as well.
	That the whole NASA moon landing program, right, was essentially a gigantic fraud.
	Right.
	And of course, similar to the Mars Rover, I have zero doubt the Mars Rover programs are so fraudulent.
	So they construct an entire, you know, scientific apparatus, manufacturing, you know, capability.
	They do all these things knowing that it's not going to work anyway.
	So is it so far-fetched to think that there's, you know, this doesn't go to other avenues like the Minivan?
	Yeah, that's a good argument, Paul.
	It's not out of the question.
	It's not out of the question.
	I mean, what becomes of the nation defense, of course?
	I mean, it's incredible, but it's not out of the question.
	Thomas, you wanted to add a couple of points.
	Hang on, Thomas.
	I'll just, one second.
	We don't have to defend against it if that technology doesn't work.
	In other words, it just goes back to the whole notion I brought up before, not to start it on this show, but like, if nuclear weapons are fake, then that means they're fake for everybody.
	Yeah, and you know, I don't buy that, but in the Russian weapons, I guarantee it'll work.
	We're going to see them all stand by.
	Don't go into the fake nuke thing, Paul, right here, right now.
	We just don't need it.
	Thomas, Thomas, your thoughts?
	What if those Minutemen are not for foreign shores but for actually within?
	And this is the horrible type of truth and questions that Americans, and it's the same in other countries, the so-called Western countries, which is Jewish as we know.
	What if it's the fact that the people Thomas, you're right on.
	You're right on because you know what?
	What people don't realize is the 5G is a weapon system disguised as telecommunication.
	And it's right there in the schools.
	It's in your backyard.
	They've managed to put the thing that's going to kill a lot of people in the next coming of days and weeks right in your backyard.
	So you're absolutely right, Thomas.
	Yeah.
	One of the things that's in the US military oath is they cannot defend their own people.
	I didn't catch that, Thomas.
	Part of the U.S., which is not America, one of the oaths is they cannot defend on their own soil, which makes sense that these minute men can't fire too far.
	Remember Obama in 2014 asking the US soldiers, would you fire on Americans?
	Do you all remember that?
	Sure, sure.
	They're talking about putting foreigners in the military because they will fire on Americans.
	Yeah, that's all right.
	I'm not saying I endorse it, that these men and women can't actually fire.
	I mean, I would be astonished.
	Russ, what are your thoughts about that?
	I have no idea, but I've kind of been, during the show, I've been kind of reading the triumphalism of the Jews on Twitter.
	They're just completely owning this stuff, and it's getting worse.
	While we've been talking, there's more different kinds of products going off.
	I mean, just listen.
	Yeah, walkie-talkies.
	I was told walkie-talkies, other communication devices, tell us more.
	Yeah.
	iPhones, all kinds of stuff.
	Now, this could be fake news.
	I mean, we would expect that in this kind of environment, and that creates the hysteria.
	But here's a very interesting comment here from Craig Murray.
	Murray, he's a pretty big influencer.
	He says the amount of triumphalism at the mass terrorist attack against the Lebanese is heart-rendering.
	Israel has just destroyed its own vital tech sector.
	Nobody in their right mind is going to buy Israeli electronics or software again.
	Let that sink in.
	Well, it's even worse than that, Craig, because By extension, all Western technology, if Israel has that much access to it.
	You know, the security is so poor that they can penetrate into the manufacturing and use this as a mass terror weapon.
	Well, the small pieces were made in Israel.
	And the reason that's terrorism is because it also affected people that were driving in their cars.
	So the moment they got hit, they crashed into other people.
	It affected people that were with their strollers.
	Yeah.
	Next to somebody.
	So this wasn't just like hitting the people that they wanted to affect.
	This was terrorism.
	This is by definition.
	And it blows off your package, or you got it up to your head and you lose half of your brains.
	Joaquin, Joaquin.
	You're in control of cybersecurity, Israel.
	We're going to see more.
	It's coming.
	They're doing the World War III, and obviously, it's not the conventional means, because they got the technology on their behalf.
	Thomas, give us a final thought, but be brief, because I want to catch everyone else, and we're nearly to that point.
	Thanks for inviting me on.
	I think it's more important now that the people come together.
	We are in the final battle.
	We will come out of it.
	But we have to start thinking with more adult brains rather than child level of Russia is bad and this one's bad and learn to come together.
	We have a common enemy that the book I wrote from his story to our story tells you.
	Yes, it's the anti-humanity group.
	They've done it for thousands and thousands of years.
	Thank you for joining us today, Thomas.
	Victor, Hugo, your final thoughts?
	I think what's going to happen is the Federal Reserve is going to do something that's going to cause the economy to collapse.
	That's going to create a civil war.
	That's going to put the police in a very disturbing situation.
	And I also believe that the 5G is going to be cranked up.
	Israel's already shown that they're using technology to kill people.
	So look for those people who were by a weapon disguised as vaccine with the COVID to start dropping dead all over the place.
	That's also owned and controlled by the Jews from Pfizer to Moderna, and that was written in 1492, a letter to Sanhedrin, that they would control the pharmakia.
	And it's all happening now, people.
	It's all happening now.
	And this Fed meeting is now, right?
	Joaquin, your final thoughts?
	Well, I think they're showing their true colors, aren't they?
	The whole world's going to be tuning in to the evil done by so many of those Jews that are in control of so much.
	You know, we're in for some really hard times.
	The bottom line is to make the most out of the life that you have and the people that you care most about and do the quality time thing because we do not know how long it will last.
	And I know that's kind of your last word.
	That's how I'm saying it in every one of my shows.
	You're absolutely right, Bucky, but it's right.
	That's where we are.
	Russ, Russ, Russ.
	I'm going to read this ironically from my iPad.
	Yeah, before it blows out.
	Greg Murray goes on and he kind of closes this argument out.
	He says, self-preservation, however, is a powerful incentive in buying choice.
	Then a Jew comes on and retorts him, and here's what the Jew has to say.
	And look at the hubris in this.
	Sounds good.
	Allow me to help.
	Go ahead and throw away your iOS and Android phones and tablets and your Windows and Mac laptop and desktop computers.
	All are powered by Israeli tech and chips inside.
	Bye!
	That's real nice!
	How comforting is that, man?
	If they want to piss off the whole African world, I think they've done it.
	No, they don't want to piss you off.
	They want to kill you, Jim.
	They want to kill you.
	They've already pissed everybody off.
	That's why they got thrown out of 109 countries.
	Thank you for your calls.
	Just to conclude, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love at Caravan, because as is obvious today, we do not know how much time we have left.
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