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Sept. 10, 2024 - Jim Fetzer

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The Raw Deal 9/11 Special (9 September 2024)

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	Not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I was young, so much younger than today.
	I can't believe anybody's helping anyway.
	I know now these days are gone and I'm not so self-assured.
	I know I'm blind, I've changed my mind.
	I know I'm out the door.
	On that fateful day, this is what you might well have heard.
	on that fateful day this is what you might well have heard turn it on your television much to your surprise and No second plane.
	It was a bomb.
	Bombing of the building.
	Not second plane.
	It was a bomb.
	Who say the second plane?
	That's what we're told.
	The second plane.
	We saw it on television.
	No.
	We saw everything.
	All right.
	Thanks a lot.
	This is-- - The idea of how much of the plane actually impacted the building.
	You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	The only site is the actual site of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left...
	That you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand.
	There are no large tail sections, wing sections, a fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
	Now, even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happen immediately.
	It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
	Jeff, it's a United Airlines plane.
	It's believed to be at that site outside Pittsburgh, isn't it?
	That's exactly right, John, with 45 people total on board.
	And one of the more profound things today, the imprint of terrorism seared not only on Wall Street, but also on Main Street.
	Here you have an area 80 miles to the southeast of Pittsburgh, and this plane, which went down at about 10 o'clock this morning.
	We have rescue vehicles that came in earlier in the day, and they have turned up nothing.
	No one believed to be alive from this crash.
	Some of the media just getting back to the scene, which is about A quarter of a mile up on a hill back behind me, and so some of the first pictures just starting to come in within the last hour.
	I want to get quickly to Chris Konicki.
	He's a photographer with the Pittsburgh affiliate of Fox Affiliate.
	He was back there just a couple of minutes ago, and Chris, I've seen the pictures.
	It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground.
	Basically, that's right.
	The only thing you could see from where we were was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees.
	We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see, there wasn't much left.
	Any large pieces of debris at all?
	No, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
	Smoke, fire?
	Nothing, it was absolutely quiet.
	It was actually very quiet.
	Nothing going on down there.
	No smoke, no fire.
	Just a couple of people walking around.
	They look like part of the NTSB crew walking around looking at the pieces.
	How big would you say that hole was?
	From my estimates, I would guess it was probably about 20 to 15 feet long and probably about 10 feet wide.
	What could you see on the ground, if anything, other than dirt and ash?
	You couldn't see anything.
	You could just see dirt, ash, and people walking around, broken trees.
	...says that City Hall in Oakland will remain open.
	It will be business as usual.
	He is urging people to remain calm, given what is going on.
	Remain calm.
	Oakland City Hall will remain open.
	But in San Francisco, City Hall has been closed.
	We're also just getting word here now that a second United Airlines jet, Flight 175 from Boston to Los Angeles, is now missing.
	Again, if you're just joining us, there have been four separate plane crashes.
	Three of those planes were en route to California.
	Two were heading to LAX.
	The third was heading to San Francisco International Airport.
	That was specifically the one heading to SFO.
	United flight number 93 from Newark to SFO.
	It apparently crashed in Pennsylvania, fairly close to the border of Maryland and not too far from Camp David.
	Why is that significant?
	Because one of the groups possibly claiming responsibility for all these terrorist attacks is the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
	And it was this week in 1978 that the Camp David Accords were reached.
	Is there a connection at this point?
	We don't know, but it is important to be aware of that situation.
	In Washington, D.C., many congressional leaders have been transferred to a secret location.
	Some senators have described this as a second Pearl Harbor.
	And President Bush was in Florida this morning, but he made a brief announcement when the first attacks were clear on the World Trade Center, and he was heading back to Washington, D.C.
	At this point, we don't know exactly where he is.
	They're trying... They're not really broadcasting that information, but we are told that the president is safe right now.
	We're waiting for a press conference to start in San Francisco from the Office of Emergency Services to discuss what the situation, what the city's reaction to all of this is going to be.
	But again, right now in San Francisco.
	Well, welcome to what happened on 9-11.
	Who is responsible and why?
	Jim Vetser here, joined by Keith Rogers.
	I'm going to present The results of research by scholars for 9-11 Truth, which I founded in December of 2005, bringing together hundreds of experts from around the world, pilots, engineers of all kinds, civil, structural, mechanical, electrical, aeronautical, pilots, to sort out what really happened.
	I'm going to go through the evidence here in batches, beginning with the claims about who was responsible and talking about why.
	We're going to look at each of the crash sites, Shanksville, then the Pentagon, then the North Tower, Flight 11, and then look at alternative theories of how the Twin Towers and the other buildings were destroyed.
	And I'm going to open the phone lines from the beginning.
	Let me just suggest that you call in with any questions you may have, but I'll take your questions after each segment.
	So you may want to listen to the first segment, for example, before you begin calling in.
	Now the number, 608-957-8727.
	608-957-8727. 608-957-8727.
	608-957-8727.
	Now you heard the report that there was a call in, allegedly from the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, That appears to have been completely contrived, just a phony call, but they just happened to have at hand footage showing Palestinians rejoicing.
	I was quite certain at the time that it was archival footage from an earlier event where there were had religious or political developments, and that turned out to be completely correct.
	The Palestinians were just as stunned and slack-jawed as the rest of the world.
	We were told with amazing speed that the responsibility rested with 19 Islamic hijackers and a guy off in a cave in Afghanistan by the name of Osama bin Laden.
	There were lots of problems here because these guys could, you know, piloting a commercial plane and in New York it was 2767, Shanksville Pentagon 2757s.
	This is a child's play.
	Requires high degree of competence.
	And we know from reports these guys would have trouble flying a Cessna, single-engine Cessna.
	There's, in fact, not a shred of evidence any of the 9-11 hijackers boarded any of the planes.
	Craig McKee has been quite good about this.
	To believe the official story of 9-11, you have to swallow an awful lot.
	You have to believe that the laws of physics can be suspended for a day, that planes can disappear after crashing, and that Muslims accused of being suicide hijackers can still be alive after the deed is done.
	Yes, indeed, for example.
	Mohammed Otter's father explained that his son had called him to say he was alive, but he was scared to death that they were after him, no doubt with good reason.
	Meanwhile, guess what?
	Turns out the 9-11 hijackers' passports were issued by the CIA a U.S.
	consulate whistleblower has reported.
	Fascinating!
	Turns out the company P-TECH had access to all FAA databases for two hours on the morning of 9-11.
	That's, of course, an Israeli asset.
	Meanwhile, you know all the stories we were told about Osama?
	They even made a movie about his purported death in Afghanistan in 2011.
	But Osama had actually died a decade earlier.
	A film that may even take the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2012, Zero Dark Thirty.
	Raises serious moral issues, glorifies a political stunt, and is based on a historical fiction.
	It's the latest in Obama propaganda.
	Osama Bin Laden was not killed on 2 May 2011 during a raid on a compound in Pakistan.
	He actually died in Afghanistan on about 15 December 2001, and he was buried there in an unmarked grave.
	Local obituaries reported Osama's death at the time.
	Even Fox and CNN subsequently confirmed it.
	He was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
	He did not die in Pakistan.
	Nick Orson had published about it, Osama bin Laden, 1957 to 2001, David Ray Griffin has a book about it, Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive, and Scholars for 9-11 Truth has written about it.
	Nick has a very wonderful piece you can find on my blog at jameshfetzer.org.
	In Orwell's novel that begins 1984, there's a figure called Emanuel Goldstein who functions as an all-purpose enemy, even though we gather he may actually have died some time ago.
	Osama Bin Laden has been used in a similar manner by the powers that be, by a process of identity theft, during the last days of his life in reality.
	There have been no significant reports of him since 2001.
	I here argue that he died on or around December 15, 2001, in consequence of the intensive bombing of his then residence in the Tora Bora caves of eastern Afghanistan, and that he had no involvement in the events of 9-11.
	Nick's got it exactly right.
	By the way, an official of the agency actually visited him in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death from his medical maladies, including kidney failure.
	It's tough to get dialysis machines in and out of those caves in Afghanistan.
	In the wake of 9-11, you may recall, the Bush administration demanded that the Taliban release Osama bin Laden to their custody.
	Though there was no proof he was involved, now we've given promises that Afghan soil won't be used against anyone.
	This is the sort of claim we were getting then.
	They demanded he be released, and the Taliban said they'd be glad to release him if they had any evidence that he had been involved.
	They, of course, had no evidence he'd been involved, and instead we proceeded to launch an assault on Afghanistan.
	Meanwhile, what was really going on was related to the demise and collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, when it was formally dissolved.
	The whole plot was originated in the fertile imagination of Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert, both of whom served as prime ministers of Israel.
	Bibi held a conference and published a book around 1987, Terrorism, How the West Can Win, before the concept was in anyone's mind.
	The idea was to create a pretext that would justify American military becoming involved in the Middle East, where it would turn out that the plan was to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, keep players with the so-called neocons,
	He wanted to promote all kinds of wars, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, prominent among them.
	They were members of an organization called Project for a New American Century, which was maintaining that with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, there was now a unique historical opportunity for the United States to create an empire worldwide, if only it sees the opportunity.
	But they worried that Americans or the government might be slow to appreciate the importance, and thus published a series of documents on their website which included the following claim—a process of transformation meaning for the United States to become a worldwide empire.
	Even if it brings revolutionary change, it's likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor.
	So, they went about creating a new Pearl Harbor.
	It was Wesley Clark, who had served as a Supreme Commander Allied Forces Europe, meaning he was a commanding general for NATO, who on the 3rd of October 2007 at the Commonwealth Club of California in San Francisco revealed the plan
	To take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, it all progressed pretty smoothly—Libya and Iraq, for example—until in Syria, the forces were met with resistance By Russian and Iranian troops that had been asked by the democratically elected president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad.
	What, you didn't know that Bashar al-Assad was democratically elected?
	You thought we were there to bring democracy and freedom to Syria?
	It was all nonsense.
	It was propaganda at which the United States excels.
	But the fact is, the effort was frustrated because it was intended to take Syria to confront the Persian nation of Iran, which did not take place.
	So, what do we then have?
	Well, here I'll take a first break and I'll invite Keith Rogers, my co-host, for any comments he may have on this first segment.
	Keith, glad to have you here.
	Your thoughts, my friend.
	Yeah, good morning there, Jim.
	Yeah, I look at things a different way, Jim.
	The U.S.
	policy, remember all this was through the PNAC documents.
	All set out long time ago.
	It's premeditated murder.
	That's the way I look at it.
	And not only the fact that, yes, a lot of Muslims died, but yeah, a lot of Americans died, a lot of coalition forces died and stuff.
	And it's no worse than right now than listening to Lindsey Graham talking about the 12 trillion dollars over there in Ukraine.
	And then to find out, as Doug McGregor had brought out this morning, That between four and five hundred U.S.
	Americans have died over in Ukraine, which the administration is not going to tell you that.
	And he says whether they're in uniform or out.
	But then you've got to start wondering there.
	You know, we look at our our said border crisis over here.
	We can't find a one single American with guts to protect our border, but they'll go over there and they'll protect the Ukraine border or they'll protect Israel's border.
	But I look at it in a mathematical way too, because say it's 500 Americans.
	Well, these paramilitary guys, I've heard the rumors, they get about $3,000 a month for killing Russians, you know?
	So out of the 500, you times that by three, you get your numbers there.
	But then you gotta realize, what kind of a profit ratio is that?
	Because the corporations again, they're looking at $12 trillion.
	Keith, if I might interrupt, today we're doing all 9-11.
	Now, it is true that there are those such as Paul Craig Roberts, and I tend to agree, who believe that what's going on now in Israel, this continued slaughter of the Palestinians and so forth, is an attempt to bring about the completion of the project initiated on 9-11.
	Basically, Creating a greater Israel is Zionists' dreams, which includes annexing about half of Egypt, almost all of Saudi Arabia, most of Syria, all of Lebanon, all of Jordan, even into Iraq, in order to create the river-to-the-river scenario from the Tigris to the Nile.
	So, well, I appreciate your further reflections on contemporary events.
	Today we're focusing on 9-11, and I know you joined after my introductory remarks where I'm breaking down the analysis of 9-11 into segments.
	This, of course, segment was about who was responsible and why.
	Therefore, I would appreciate your commenting on that.
	Okay, well, let's go back to the original there.
	Again, as I said, premeditated murder.
	Remember, I'm sure you've seen the article which says the Soviet warrior, and that was Osama bin Laden, and this was when they were using him during the Soviet Union fighting over in Afghanistan.
	You know, what's funny about this, Jim, is Even down to Indonesia and stuff.
	They had pre-mapped out all these islands and stuff.
	They knew where all the mineral resources were.
	If you Google this right now, you can see Afghanistan itself sits on a trillion dollars.
	Then they said a trillion dollars worth of mineral wealth.
	But all these wars, that's all they're about is oil, gas, stuff like that, you know.
	And they use these lies to get American boys to somehow think that they're fighting for their freedom and democracy.
	When we look at it right now, though, Jim, look at all the censorship and cutting out people's channels.
	We're talking about 9-11, you're wondering.
	Well, again, Jim, it's a preface there.
	They used 9-11.
	They were willing to kill not only Americans, but also others to further their goal.
	Premeditated murder.
	Much appreciated, Keith.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Premeditated murder is a very minimal way of describing what happened here.
	The point I'm making is that it was initiated by Israel in collusion with the neocons in the Department of Defense, who'd come from the Project for a New American Century, which had been promoting the fantasy of creating a new American empire that would endure for the next 100 years if the U.S.
	would only move aggressively into the Middle East and take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
	Now, if we turn to the events of 9-11 and the four flights, It turns out the security at all four, well, the three airports, because two came from Logan.
	The three airports was all provided by CTS, which just happens to be an Israeli security firm.
	Now, you heard Chris Konecki- Didn't they link to George Bush too?
	Weren't all those security firms also linked to George Bush?
	You're talking about it at the World Trade Center, Keith.
	I was actually at all the airports.
	Hang on, my friend.
	Just hang on.
	We're turning to Shanksville.
	Now, you saw the hole in the ground where Chris Kinnick is.
	That was like 15 or 20 feet by 10.
	We're talking about a plane, a Boeing 757 with a 125-foot wingspan with a tail that stood 44 feet above the ground.
	It's alleged you have crashed upside down.
	If you look at bona fide crash sites here in Missouri, Amsterdam, Russia, there's a huge amount of debris, major sections of the fuselage.
	There's no doubt or ambiguity.
	And yet, both of the reporters first on the scene said the eerie aspect of the crash site was there was no sign that any plane had crashed there.
	And that's because no plane had crashed there.
	Here's Chris Kanicki, for example, whom we actually heard live during the earlier interview.
	Now, some apologists have suggested it was because the ground was very soft and that the plane had disappeared down an abandoned Mine shaft.
	But we know what to do when miners are trapped in abandoned mine shafts.
	We break out the bright lights and the heavy equipment and dig 24-7 in the hope that by some miracle someone might have survived.
	In this case, they didn't break out the bright lights and the heavy equipment to dig, even to recover the 45 bodies that had allegedly been aboard.
	In other words, the scenario is fantastic.
	It bears no correspondence to truth.
	Now, there was a neighbor, Al McClutchie, who took a photograph that was supposed to have been smoke from the crash, but it turns out to have been photoshopped.
	The smoke didn't look like smoke from a plane crash.
	It looked like smoke from an explosion, a set of demolitions.
	that have been put together with a scenario.
	And indeed, it's over a pond where the plane did not purportedly crash.
	In other words, they were fabricating evidence.
	Here's a slide showing, you know, the kind of smoke, massive black smoke in a super abundance, not this lighter grayish smoke in a small cloud.
	Meanwhile, it turns out pilots for 9-11 Truth did brilliant work.
	They actually were able to track, based upon air-ground communications, that Flight 93 was still airborne after it officially crashed in Shanksville.
	And in fact, it was over Champaign-Urbana, Illinois.
	There are a number of stories about 93, for example, landing in Cleveland.
	Art Olivier has a fascinating I think it could be called docufiction.
	I mean, it's a film about what may have happened landing in Cleveland.
	But the mayor, who is a black man named White, was even confirming the plane had landed there, which of course contradicts the official narrative.
	So something is terribly wrong.
	There's no reason to believe any plane actually crashed in Shanksville other than the government's official pronouncements.
	Keith, your thoughts about Shanksville?
	Yeah, when I first saw that, Jim, I had to laugh like that because I've seen these plane crashes all over the place, too.
	And anyone that would have believed that had to be, there's something wrong mentally with them like that.
	But go ahead with your break and I'll come back.
	Yeah, stand by.
	We're hitting a break.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
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	Several times I'm going to refer to the brilliant work of pilots for 9-11 Truth who really have contributed massively to understanding what happened in relation to the planes, especially flight 93 and 175, as I'm going to explain.
	Keith, did you want to add further thoughts about Shanksville?
	Yes.
	So if we use the same analogy as the Pentagon there, You said that the ground here was kind of mushy or something like that, you know, kind of like outside of Auschwitz there.
	But anyway, the fact is, where's these big huge blurp things from those plane engines?
	Do you realize how much those engines weigh?
	They're what, 10 some odd feet across and stuff?
	There's no big round holes where those plane engines would have went and dived in there.
	Is it augured in the ground?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	That's very good, Keith.
	You're 100% correct.
	If we do turn to the Pentagon now, the government has only released five frames, even though the Pentagon has to be the most heavily surveyed building in the world.
	They released only five frames, and they have the wrong date and timestamp.
	It's very curious.
	One is conveniently labeled plane, and if you look at the gate mechanism there, there is something with a white plume extending behind it that does look like a plane.
	Otherwise, we see a growing fireball of increasing intensity, but it's bizarre right off the bat that that is all the government's been able to provide.
	So I asked a colleague from JFK Research, Jack White, if he could size the image of a Boeing 757 to the tail of what appears to be the plane there, and it turns out to be more than twice the size, meaning whatever we have there cannot be a Boeing 757.
	Moreover, pilots and aeronautical engineers explained to me that because it's a white plume, it cannot be the exhaust of a jet engine, but could be from a missile being fired into the building, which is exactly what happened.
	The West Wing, as some of you may well know, is a wing that had just been renovated to make it nuclear resistant.
	It was bereft of personnel and property except for a budget team of experts.
	Donald Rumsfeld had announced the day before that the Pentagon was missing $2.3 trillion from its budget and had directed the section chief to bring all the documents and records into the West Wing so they could track the missing trillions.
	Many of them were killed.
	In fact, I was astonished when I read the list of a purported 120 casualties for the Pentagon.
	About three dozen of them were accountants, financial experts, budget analysts that have been taken out in this hit, which means they accomplished more than one goal by means of this strike.
	Here's an image of the hit point.
	It's only about on the first floor, on the ground floor.
	It's only about 10 feet high, 15 to 16 feet wide.
	You see chain link fence, a couple automobiles, there are two large cables of Spools of cable that are aflame.
	You see unbroken windows.
	What you do not see is any massive pile of aluminum debris.
	No bodies, no seats, no luggage, no wings, no tails.
	Not even the engines were recovered, as Keith astutely observed in relation to Shanksville.
	And as you heard Jamie McIntyre report, that collapse of the facade only occurred about 45 minutes later.
	Indeed, when they did reconstruction, here you see an image inside that part that had collapsed.
	There are no signs of an intense fire having hit.
	Indeed, on the third floor on the left, you can see what appears to be a wooden stand for an Oxford Unabridged Dictionary that is unscathed, unscorched.
	In other words, even the fireballs appear to have been photoshopped in.
	Not going to the official account in order to hit on the ground floor.
	That'd be barely skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour.
	Well...
	Aeronautical engineers have explained to me that a 757 at that speed could not have come closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground because of the effect of what's called ground effect or downdraft.
	It was aerodynamically impossible for the plane to have made this approach as advertised.
	And of course, with the engine barely skimming the ground, it would have ripped up the ground.
	There would have been a whole lot of damage there.
	And yet, when we look at photographs taken when the two civilian lime green fire trucks that just happened to be in the vicinity promptly arrived to extinguish the very modest fires that resulted, the Pentagon lawn is clear, clean, absent of debris.
	And indeed, the BBC, which came to interview me about 9-11, they stayed here in my home, just 20 feet from where I'm speaking now.
	For eight hours they interviewed me, and I explained all the evidence I'm explaining to you here and now, with possibly one exception.
	They themselves, when they did their first conspiracy file series about 9-11, showed many images of the clear Pentagon lawn, absolutely bereft.
	And that's even after the collapse, 45 minutes later, there's no debris on the lawn.
	It only began showing up later.
	I actually suggested to the BBC that it may have been dropped from the C-130 that was circling the buildings.
	It would be so awkward to have officers and men bringing this debris out onto the ground.
	The most interesting piece of which is shown here.
	It's from the fuselage of a 757.
	But notice it looks like it was peeled off.
	Not that it was involved in a violent collision when it would be all crumpled.
	It would be scorched from the intense heat.
	And most interestingly, entwined in this piece of fuselage is a piece of vine not indigenous to the Arlington, Virginia area.
	Well, a retired attorney from Columbus, Ohio by the name of James Hansen found this fascinating and went to work on it.
	It turns out 757s are extremely safe.
	There have been very few crashes of 757s, but he tracked this one down to the crash of American Airlines 965.
	In 1995, near Cali, Colombia, where it had passed through jungles where those vines are indigenous, the pilots had lost their way and hit the side of a mountain.
	The debris, by the way, the salvage, was conducted by an Israeli firm, and it wound up on the Pentagon lawn.
	The BBC actually interviewed the pilot shown here, that C-130, who said the idea he had dropped that debris was absurd.
	He didn't say it was false.
	And I still maintain that appears to be how it was done.
	Meanwhile, if you look at the official trajectory, the plane on its approach is supposed to have taken out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 stationary lamp posts en route to hitting the building.
	Well, by Newton's third law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
	The effect of the plane moving at 400 miles an hour hitting these stationary lampposts would be the same as if the plane were stationary, hit by these steel lampposts going 400 miles an hour.
	They would have ripped open the wings.
	The fuel would have mixed with the air, burst into fire.
	The plane would have cartwheeled across the ground.
	But as we already know, the ground is clear and clean and free from debris until more than 45 minutes after the alleged crash, so it cannot have happened that way.
	Moreover...
	Citizens investigative team discovered there were witnesses at a SITCO station, not far from the Pentagon, who reported seeing a plane approach the Pentagon, but on the opposite side of the SITCO station, here shown as a green line straight trajectory.
	Now, it turns out that A friend of mine from JFK Research, by the name of Roy Schaefer, had a friend by the name of Dave Ball who was a trucker in front of the Pentagon.
	And Dave told Roy how he watched a plane approach the Pentagon and then swerve overhead.
	And bear in mind, I mean, that's consistent with the evidence we have of the absence of any debris parts from an aircraft, body, seat, sluggage, wings, tail.
	So it's consistent with it having swerved over, moreover, in its testimony to the 9-11 Commission, Norman Mineta, who was at the time our Secretary of Transportation, was in an underground bunker with Dick Cheney.
	And he reported how an aide came up to Cheney and said, sir, it's 50 miles out.
	Sir, it's 40 miles out.
	Sir, it's 30 miles out.
	Do the orders still stand?
	And Cheney whipped around and said, of course the orders still stand.
	Have you heard anything to the contrary?
	Well, the order had to be to not shoot the plane down.
	I mean, the planes were being used as weapons, according to the official narrative.
	You shoot down the plane, you lose the passengers in the aircraft, but not the property and the personnel at the target.
	So what Cheney was doing was authorizing this plane to fly toward the Pentagon, and then, as we know from Dave Bosworth over it, I told Roy, by the way, that would be a great idea for Dave to come on my show and talk about it.
	Because once he talked about it, it'd be much safer.
	He approached Dave, but Dave was reluctant.
	And the next time I spoke to Roy, I said, Roy, he needs to do that.
	But the last time I heard from Roy, Dave Ball had been found dead in an abandoned building.
	This is an image from the C-Ring, as we know there are five rings in the Pentagon.
	And the third is the C-Ring, where a landing gear is supposed to have created a hole in the C-Ring.
	This is supposed to be proof that a real plane actually is in the Pentagon.
	But they forgot to remove spray paint and punch out.
	And of course, you know, we had witnesses who smelt cordite, which is a common military explosive.
	The blowout hole is too symmetrical to have been from the plane part, which would have been coming from an angle and been asymmetrical.
	More fabricated evidence.
	And we already heard Jamie McIntyre report from the scene.
	There's no evidence of any plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
	He got it exactly right.
	April Gallup, who's a civilian employee who brought her infant child to work with her that day, said when she first touched her computer, there was an enormous explosion blowing out a hole in the front of the Pentagon.
	As she walked out of the hole, she saw no evidence of any plane, but she smelled cordite.
	Major General Albert Stolbein, now retired, was in the past in charge of all U.S.
	signal intelligence, including photograph, and told a German reporter God, it was obvious that no plane had hit the Pentagon because the imprint of the wings would have been on the facade, and it was not there, where this facade of the Pentagon is made of limestone, which is a very soft, porous material.
	I like General Stubblebine, and since he was a highest-ranking military expert in this area, I invited him to review the evidence I had that All four of the 9-11 crash sites had been fabricated or faked, albeit in different ways, which was recorded.
	It was a real-deal show from years ago.
	And the General not only agreed with me, but offered additional reasons why I was correct.
	Now later in the day, the Congress was told that flight, this was 93, was heading toward the Capitol.
	That was supposed to be a target.
	So they came out on the steps of the Capitol and looking across at Potomac, they saw billowing black smoke.
	Well, I knew this was ridiculous, because those lime green fire trucks had extinguished some very modest fires at the time.
	So I wondered where in the world that smoke had come from, and I discovered it came from a series of enormous dumpsters in front of the Pentagon.
	They'd set fires in these dumpsters.
	And would you believe later, this is in early 2006, a member of Scholars who just happened to be in Duluth where I was residing at the time came by.
	We went out to lunch and he showed me 44 more frames where you can see air between the giant dumpster fires and the pentagon that had been in a National Geographic special.
	Well, it turns out Edward Hendry was really Johnny on the spot and captured Bureau of Transportation Statistics records for that morning, which showed no American Airlines Flight 77 scheduled to depart Washington Dulles Airport on 9-11.
	In other words, Flight 77 wasn't even in the air that day.
	Keith, your thoughts?
	Yeah, I was sending a text message to Alan Sebrorski to see if he'd want to join us.
	Anyway, you know, Jim, I was thinking about that when that alleged plane came down on that lawn.
	You know, at all these airports and stuff like that, whether it's a landing or even out in fields, when a jet passes over you, you've got that massive swirl of air.
	So anything on that lawn and stuff, there would have been a massive pickup of debris and stuff.
	And of course, that's if the plane wings were still left intact after hitting all those foam poles, you know, or light poles, you know.
	But I'm looking at the more covert thing about who wouldn't want anyone to know where that $2.3 trillion went?
	And then remember 10 years later after this entire thing there, Jim, they found that plane engine behind that, I think it was a bar in New York with a rope hung around it, like it was lowered there.
	Do you remember that one?
	Yes, but we're not to New York yet, Keith.
	We're at the Pentagon, and I want to commend Thierry Meyssan getting it right.
	He had his son put up an early blog called Hunt the Boeing, where they went through a whole lot of photographs and images such as I've been reviewing here about the Pentagon, and you saw no evidence of any plane having crashed there.
	We're going to get to New York, and we'll talk about that, because there was planted evidence there too, Keith, so I appreciate your bringing it up in anticipation.
	Let me conclude the Pentagon by observing Theory Maison.
	Got it right.
	Now, Twin Towers were two magnificent 110-story buildings, 208 feet on each side, In the wake of 9-11, Donald Trump had observed that the builders who had constructed the World Trade Center were working for him now, and that planes could not possibly have brought them down.
	Something else had to be involved.
	He mentioned specifically bombs.
	He got it right.
	Here you can see the massive 47 core columns in the center.
	The design was a tube within a tube.
	So you had the 47 core columns in the center, then it created all this open space for the businesses, the companies, to conduct their office activities, surrounded by 230 external steel support columns, Well, they were connected by steel braces that were filled with four to eight inches of concrete to which I shall return.
	The steel was six inches thick in the sub-basement and then moderated five, four, three, two, one, up to just a half and then a quarter inch at the top.
	Well, the theory that the top floors had collapsed and caused the other floors to collapse along with it is a physical absurdity, because that top portion of the mass only represents like 1.8% of the mass of the building.
	And the idea of its overcoming the lower 98.3 is ridiculous.
	Plus, John Skilling, who is the chief engineer, explained the building were designed with a safety factor of 20.
	In other words, each floor was designed to support 20 times its live load.
	Here you see the totality of the buildings.
	There were altogether seven in the World Trade Center.
	And asbestos appears to have been involved in all of this, because if you were to remove the asbestos, it would have required erecting scaffolding around the buildings, tune of about a billion bucks apiece, And if you wanted to bring them down by a classic controlled demolition, it would not be permissible because of the health hazard.
	So it's extremely fortuitous that just six weeks after the World Trade Center had been transferred to private property, Silverstein properties, that there happened to be a terrorist attack.
	And as I shall explain, Larry Silverstein had fired the security firm that had been looking after the building since it had been opened in 1970 and replaced it with, yes, an Israeli firm, and renegotiated the insurance policy to include a terrorist attack provision.
	And because there were two planes, he claimed double indemnity and wound up with $4.5 billion on a $114 million investment.
	Here, when everyone sees a video version, you'll see the destruction.
	It's all and only buildings with a WTC designation have been targeted for destruction.
	Among those who were involved in the transfer of this property to Silverstein, Frank Lowry, Ronald Lauder, Paul Eisenberg, all members of Port Authority of New York, all committed Zionist, dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
	Larry Silverstein himself, they don't call him Lucky Larry for nothing.
	He and his daughter made it a practice.
	To have breakfast every morning at Windows of the World on the top of the North Tower.
	That day, however, neither Larry nor his daughter arrived.
	He claimed his wife had made a dermatological appointment for him, but we know better.
	Here's a firm replaced by the parole security firm.
	Also, Mayor Willie Brown had been warned in advance.
	It turns out it was Condoleezza Rice who told him not to fly on 9-11.
	I had a little old lady from a synagogue in Brooklyn call me up and say that their rabbi had warned the members not to go into Manhattan that day, and she wanted me to know, confirming that they used Odego, another Israeli messenger service, to warn Jewish employees not to come into the World Trade Center that day.
	Absolutely.
	And I've already mentioned Rumfield and the $2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon.
	The controller at the time was Dov Zarkind.
	He was not only a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, he was a rabbi and also had a company that manufactured remote-controlled devices that were intended to be used to take over airplanes in flight if they were subject to hijacking, where I'm convinced the original plan
	was to use real planes to hit the Twin Towers that were remotely controlled, and it was only when they discovered the design of the building made it physically impossible for real planes to enter the buildings that they decided they had to devise an alternative plan, which I shall address in some detail.
	Keith, Dov Zockheim, Rumsfeld, all the rest, your thoughts?
	Yeah.
	Ryan Dawson did a wonderful film.
	It was on the Port Authority, the basic mob.
	It's got Kushner, all those guys that are involved in that thing.
	It's an actual mob.
	And I guess Kushner's dad was arrested on that, too, there.
	But it's like a syndicate.
	They knew which ones to take down.
	Uh, to do this.
	And of course, who, who could rig the insurance company to make it benefit for yourself and then have it pay off?
	I mean, seriously, it's like, yeah, I want it.
	I want a policy that's going to pay off in case of terrorism.
	And then just a couple of months or so later, like it all happens like that.
	Isn't there any suspicion?
	And then it paid out what double?
	Um, but remember also Klaus Schwab.
	And his Global Reset book said that he sat there on 9-11 having breakfast with his rabbi, watching the Twin Towers come down.
	And all this just seems like it's so interrelated, you know, like this is, again, premeditated murder.
	Well, of course.
	It was mass murder.
	But the point is, it was an inside job.
	It was done by Israel for political purposes.
	So calling it murder is really too weak a term, Keith.
	Yeah, that's true.
	It created an atrocity that would be blamed on Palestinian Patsies, Islamic Patsies, and Osama Bin Laden when they had nothing to do with it.
	It's outrageous.
	But clearly Bush and Cheney, I'm convinced by the way, were brought into office in 2000 by stealing the election, especially in Florida.
	I remember the hanging chads where his brother Jeb was a governor and where the Supreme Court improperly intervened.
	They needed to have Bush and Cheney in office in order to bring us 9-11 and then pull the Patriot Act off the shelf to have it passed with great urgency, even though no one had ever read it.
	It consolidated 35 government agencies into a behemoth.
	The Department of Homeland Security was modeled after the East German Stasi.
	Widely recognized as the most efficient secret police force the world has ever known.
	So, there were many aspects to 9-11.
	None more important, however, for Israel than securing the United States' involvement in wars to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
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	Well, turning to New York, Flight 11 and the North Tower, it just so happens a French film crew happened to be there ostensibly investigating a gas leak with a fire department, where a Scottish scholar observed that you had to satisfy over where a Scottish scholar observed that you had to satisfy over 100 improbable circumstances in order to be able to swing your camera up and catch a hit on the North Tower by Flight
	Remember, you're going to hear the plane, and when you hear it, the plane's long gone, because the sound waves are traveling slower than the plane.
	And the fact is that the Nadee brothers were there deliberately.
	In fact, they were on DeWayne Street, and it turns out that Nadee is an anagram of DeWayne Street.
	An anagram.
	So here you see an image of what it ought to have looked like if a Boeing 767 were actually hitting the South Tower.
	But what we have looks more like, as Rosalie Grable, also known as The Web Theory, observed, a series of what could be described as flying pigs approaching the building.
	It does not remotely resemble a 767.
	Here you have the moment of the hit, and most strikingly, initially, the pattern of damage was an elongated Z.
	But then after the smoke clears, after we have the massive explosion, it turns out into an elongated V. Not only that, but the tip of the right hand is extended.
	When it's the most fragile part, apart from the nose of a plane, it couldn't possibly be severing the massive external steel support columns.
	Where it appears that it was beneath or behind the massive cloud from what appears to have been prepositioned napalm jet fuel.
	Well, there was a lot of twinkling there, leading me to surmise perhaps this was George H. W. Bush's Thousand Points of Light.
	It appeared explosives were used to blow out the cookie cutouts that have drawn so much attention from students of 9-11.
	So here you see the plane approaching, and it was intersecting 1, 2, 3, 4, 8 different floors.
	Remember, each of which was a Involved a steel truss with 4-inch deep grooves, filled with concrete.
	So some places the concrete was 4 inches, some places 8 inches deep.
	208 feet on its side, that's an acre of concrete on a steel truss.
	There's no possible way, physically, a real plane could have entered the tower.
	I've had debates about how the damage could have been done.
	One student has suggested it could have been by a missile fired from the side.
	I don't completely discount that, but I do not believe it's the most likely hypothesis with the best support.
	Meanwhile, Andrew Henry also discovered For flight 11.
	We're at Transportation Statistics.
	No American airline flight 11 scheduled to board Boston Logan on 9-11.
	In other words, like flight 77, flight 11 wasn't even in the air that day.
	Keith, would you like to comment on the North Tower?
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure which tower was which, Jim.
	But in my mind, what I want to say is, I remember when the portion of that top tower started to go down.
	And as you said in your detailing is how the steel got thicker and thicker and thicker as it went down.
	So that portion that was on the very top that somehow corrected itself, which would have meant that the steel got weak for some reason.
	Uh, it would have normally hit and then just kind of rolled off at an angle and fell off to the side like that.
	Because again, that steel was thicker, but something made it so that all that steel would give way below it.
	And that's just, as you mentioned earlier, that's just totally impossible.
	Yes, you're talking about the South Tower, which tilted to the side before the whole building was blown.
	This occurred when a fire chief was up there and said, we got very modest fires.
	I think a couple of lines will be able to put it out.
	That's when they triggered the demolition of the South Tower.
	The North had an antenna on it.
	Meanwhile, as far as those cookie cutouts, there were Israeli art students.
	They were called art students in the building at the time.
	They had free access to both the North and the South Tower.
	They were called the Gelatin Group.
	They were conducting performance art external to the building.
	And here we have a photograph with boxes and boxes of fuse holders Which I believe were used to hold in place the modest demolitions required to create a quickie cutter cutout.
	On 9-11, there was a whole lot going on.
	Most people are unaware.
	The CIA had allowed 200 Mossad agents To come into the United States under the guise of being art students.
	They had a variety of tasks on 9-11, including Planting jammers on buildings to block Port Authority dispatchers and first responder radios.
	Planting explosives on the Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge where the cables are anchored in order to collapse a bridge.
	Exploding a truck in the Lincoln Tunnel.
	Exploding a truck in the Holland Tunnel.
	They also set up the Brooklyn Bridge for demolition.
	Parking trucks in specific parking areas of the Twin Towers.
	Thank goodness the New York cops were on top of their game that day, including the arrest of the so-called dancing Israelis in Liberty State Park on the Jersey side.
	Residents of an apartment complex observed five individuals who were dancing, celebrating, high fives, photographing themselves with the twin towers in the background.
	They've come to be known as the Dancing Israelis.
	They were reported, she reported to the police, and they stopped the van in which they were riding, which reportedly had a mural on the side of a plane, and the Twin Towers.
	Just outrageous!
	And when the officer approached the driver, he said, We're not a problem.
	Our problem is your problem.
	The problem is the Palestinians.
	They found residue of explosives, passports, box cutters, Money in the van.
	They were arrested and held for 44 days until an assistant attorney general, Michael Chertoff, another dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, released them.
	They went back to Israel.
	Three of them appeared on a local television show and explained they were there to document the destruction of the Twin Towers, which obviously implies poor knowledge, because this was an Israeli plot.
	Before I turn to 175, Keith, any thoughts about the dancing Israelis at all?
	Yeah, I got one big thought for you, Jim.
	This is related too.
	I've sent you a video from earlier this morning where the international courts have ruled the entire statehood of Israel is illegal.
	What if all this, all this, throughout the entire Middle East the last 20 some odd years, what if it was all for naught to now find that, as we've watched Bibi destroy Israel and stuff, all the death, the carnage, the lost money and stuff, all to see basically all this go up in flames on their side now.
	It hasn't happened yet.
	And of course, that's a non-binding resolution, though I regard it as significant, and I think historically it will stand.
	There was an amazing denunciation during the hearings held a couple of months ago by a British barrister on behalf of South Africa, tracing the fact that there was not a proper legal foundation for the state of Israel.
	But how this is all going to play out is yet to be seen.
	Here we have an image of Flight 175 approaching the South Tower.
	It turns out it was flying too fast.
	You look at the imagery, there's a Hazard Connie from the side, there's the Everett fan bags from the bottom looking up.
	We have studied both of those videos, do a frame-by-frame study, and the rate of speed is too fast.
	It appears what happened is that they assumed that the cruising speed at 35,000 feet could be attained at 700 to 1,000.
	But whereas John Lear, for example, our nation's most distinguished pilot, explained in an affidavit he provided for a court case in New York that was bottled up by an Israeli Friendly, shall we say, Judge Hellerstein, to whom I shall return, observed that the pilots for 9-11 Truth observed the plane was traveling too fast.
	It would have come apart in the air at the speed shown, which was in excess of 400 miles an hour, because the air at that lower altitude is three times thicker, and the engines can no longer pump it through the turbines and begin functioning as brakes.
	The plane would have physically come apart.
	The pilots have actually documented this in their film, 9-11 Intercepted, which I highly recommend.
	In any case, what we seem to witness on 9-11 was Flight 175 just magically disappearing into the South Tower.
	It's sometimes as a result been called a ghost plane, or the butter plane, as though the Twin Tower were a 110-story chunk of butter, because it does so effortlessly and with no diminution in velocity.
	Here we have the intersection of the plane with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
	Yeah, I think perhaps with 11 it was only 7 floors.
	It's 8 here with 175.
	I think perhaps with 11, it was only seven floors.
	It's eight here with 175.
	It could not have entered the building.
	A real plane.
	It would have crumpled external to the building.
	Here you have Ace Baker portraying in his magnificent 9-11 sci-opera.
	It would have crumpled external to the building.
	Now we've done very thorough study, and here you see a series of frames from the Everett Fairbanks looking up where the plane passes its whole length into the building.
	In the same number of frames, it passes its whole length through air.
	Which means that this is a physical absurdity unless a massive 500,000 ton steel and concrete building provides no more resistance to the trajectory of an aircraft in flight than air.
	There is no diminution in velocity.
	And at the lower left, We record the nose-out phenomenon.
	Those of you who are watching at the time, and that might be a large segment of this audience may recall that South Tower was being hit, and then there was the nose out.
	The nose was popping out, and the network faded to black.
	There'd been a hand-eye coordination problem.
	You weren't supposed to see the nose out, but it was captured, and it once again reflects a physical impossibility.
	So we had again the massive explosion, as I say, pre-positioned jet-fueled napalm, rather spectacular, to create a cookie-cutter style cutout once again.
	Now, had real planes hit either the North or the South Tower, you would have had body seats, luggage, wings, tail falling to the ground.
	But beneath the facades, from both the North and the South, none is present.
	No bodies, no seeds, no wings, no tail.
	It's just ridiculous.
	Proof that no real planes hit the building.
	You must appreciate this.
	No real planes hit either the North or the South Tower.
	Or effects that would necessarily have taken place are missing.
	You would have had to have those effects had it been real.
	You don't have those effects, therefore not real.
	They went out of their way, however, to fake additional, including planting an engine at Church in Murray.
	It's just sitting there, underneath a steel scaffolding and a canopy, on the sidewalk, which is undamaged.
	Now, had anything that massive hit that sidewalk at a high velocity, it would have churned up damage to the sidewalk.
	They didn't want to do that, so they just set it down.
	And Jack White, once again with his keen eye, Found Fox News footage of a white van at the intersection, where agents in FBI vests are unloading something heavy.
	But get this, get this, Keith, the engine was an antiquated engine, not then in service in Boeing aircraft.
	So it was a complete fraud.
	Plus, we know the impossibility of making the entry, as I've been explaining, And how much damage is done by as much as an impact with a small bird, and yet we had the nose-out phenomenon.
	Absolutely impossible.
	There's some who insisted the plane disappeared when it hit the building that it vaporized, and they cite the Sandia crash, which was a fighter plane filled with water on a jet ski run into a concrete-resistant nuclear barrier.
	Well, while the plane blows apart into a million little pieces, it does not penetrate the barrier.
	The analogy is completely flawed.
	Give us your thoughts, Keith.
	Yeah, I was thinking when I first saw all this happening there, because I had about three months before that, I read about that B-25 that hit the Empire State Building.
	And I thought, well, there sure is a lot of difference.
	And if you, I mean, if we're to believe this on face value, the aluminum fuselage of a plane is really built up on the bottom.
	You can imagine, had that gone into the building, I mean, that's if it was able to knock the wings off and get past all that steel and stuff, but it would have slid clear across those office floors and out the other side totally.
	I mean, I don't know how wide that building was and they were like that, but there's no way you could have stopped that amount of force.
	You're talking specifically about the engines?
	Well, no, no, the actual, where the bodies, the seats and stuff, you know, that big explosion on the other side of the building, that fuselage should have came out that other side there.
	There was no way you could have stopped that because a few pillars and stuff ain't going to do nothing.
	Are you missing my point that it was intersecting with eight different floors of steel trusses and an acre of concrete on each floor that no plane, no real plane could have entered either of those buildings?
	Yes, that's why I'm stating that.
	It would be impossible to do that because they couldn't have got past that first barrier.
	And then the other side is even if it had, it would have slid clear across the inside.
	Nothing would have stopped it.
	So you know that no plane was there.
	You're talking as though we're entering on one floor and going to cross across the floor.
	It was intersecting with eight different floors, Keith.
	There's no scenario that would satisfy your description except for a fantasy.
	Now, Purdue ...did produce a video that was absurd, misdescribing the physics of the situation, and it did create the impression that a plane had entered horizontal on one floor and just cut through the steel.
	It's absurd!
	We're talking about a phenomenon as ridiculous as throwing a beer can, an empty beer can, against a brick wall.
	That's the rough equivalent of this plane, which is mostly an aluminum tube full of air, hitting a 500,000 steel and concrete building.
	So the question becomes, how did they fake it?
	It's not real.
	It cannot have happened.
	There's several different... Keith?
	Hollywood?
	I mean, everything we look at, even a lot of the stuff that you talked about on Trump and stuff, a lot of this looks like it's all Hollywood.
	Look at our movies and stuff that we get today.
	They can make explosions, all this stuff.
	You're not there.
	I mean, do you realize the amount of fuel and stuff which we needed to make some of these explosions and stuff?
	But they do it all with CGI now.
	Well, that's one of the alternative hypotheses.
	And my only comment about was the fuselage is that had a plane hit the outside of that building like that, those engines and stuff could have never got through that steel and stuff.
	Everything would have fallen down on the outside of the building.
	No, the engines would have been able to... Well, maybe the engines.
	Maybe.
	Well, the engines are virtually indestructible, Keith.
	The engines would have been a tramp, but nothing else.
	But the fuselage would have been one of those roadrunner-type things, where it looks like an accordion, you know?
	Yes.
	So there have been three different theories of how it was done.
	CGI, computer-generated images, being one.
	Another, that it was done with video compositing.
	There's a delay of some 17 seconds between the time that a video is taken and it's released to the public, during which the images of the planes could have been added.
	Or, third, that it was actually done using holograms.
	You saw the video where the plane dips down and its wing disappears behind another building?
	Yes, Keith.
	It's not behind the other building, that's a mistake, that's an optical illusion, but a plane wing does show and then sometimes not show.
	Now, the fact is, If it had been CGI or video compositing, no one would have seen the plane approaching the building in real time.
	But we have hundreds of witnesses reporting having seen a plane in real time.
	I went through the reports accumulated by the New York Times, some 500.
	Their descriptions were quite varied.
	Some said it was a large plane, some said small, some said military, some said commercial.
	But any plane visible in real time before the broadcast invalidates or falsifies CGI and video compositing.
	Because under CGI or video compositing, you would have only seen the film in the broadcast footage.
	Now, Richard D. Hall did a brilliant analysis.
	It's called Flight 175 Radar Data, 3D radar data.
	You can find it online.
	What he did was to look at videos of Flight 175 approaching, and there were some 52 of whom, 27 or 28 are sufficiently precise that you could actually plot a location in time.
	So he plotted the location in time for the plane approaching the building, and he found that NIST had a similar plot, claiming it was based on radar data.
	Well, he looked at their data and it didn't look right to him, but he found there was radar data.
	But the radar data was for a plane 1,200 feet to the right of the positions he had plotted.
	Which led him to infer that that plane 1,200 feet to the side had projected the holographic image of the plane approaching the building, that the plane that was projecting the image was traveling faster than a 767 could travel at that speed.
	That's why it had an effortless entry that was physically impossible into the building.
	It's also why on the radar it didn't show, because the real plane, which was captured on the radar, would reflect the radio waves bouncing off, but the holographic image, which was not real, would not.
	So you get an explanation for the impossible entry, the impossible speed, in how we had the radar capturing the plane that was projecting the image, and of course, The plane projecting the image made sound that was heard by those who were witnessing the image being projected.
	I was even sent a page from an Australian military manual for an airborne holographic projector.
	Let me read.
	The holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location.
	Remove from the display generator.
	The projector can be used for psychological operation and strategic perception management.
	It is also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary.
	In this case, the unsophisticated adversary is the American people.
	Get this now!
	Pilots for 9-11 truth.
	Flight 175 was still airborne after it had purportedly hit the South Tower over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	And where I obtained Federal Aviation Administration records, For the two physical aircraft used for 93 and 175.
	Remember, the same physical plane could be used one day from Tampa to Chicago, the next day New York to San Francisco.
	In fact, both planes were deregistered or taken out of service on the same day, 28 September 2005.
	So since 11 and 77, we're not even in the air.
	how can planes that weren't in the air have crashed on 9-11 and how can planes have crashed on 9-11 still been in the air four years later?
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	Even the government admits that 9-11 was a conspiracy.
	But did you know that it was an inside job that Osama had nothing to do with it?
	That the Twin Towers were blown apart by a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes.
	That Building 7 collapsed 7 hours later because of explosives planted in the building.
	Barry Jennings was there.
	He heard them go off and felt himself stepping over dead people.
	The U.S.
	Geological Survey conducted studies of dust gathered from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Ironically, that means the government's own evidence contradicts the government's official position.
	9-11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the neocons in the Department of Defense, and the Mossad.
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	Now, bear in mind, if no planes crash, then no passengers died, and no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash. and no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash.
	And if no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash, then there was no warrant or any justification for the war on terror.
	The whole thing was a fabrication to support Israel.
	Donald Trump was the first personnel in the world to contest the official version of the attacks of 9-11 on television that very day.
	After having noted that the engineers who built the Twin Towers were now working for him, he declared on New York Channel 9 that it was impossible that Boeings could have burst through the steel structures of the towers.
	He continued by saying it was also impossible that Boeing's could have caused the towers to collapse.
	He concluded by affirming that there had to be other factors of which we were as yet unaware.
	He specifically used the word bombs.
	Now most even students at 9-11 are unaware that there were earlier explosions in the sub-basement coincident with the planes hitting the towers or the appearance of planes hitting towers.
	In fact, it blew out the lobby.
	William Rodriguez, who was a senior custodian in the North Tower, came here to Madison.
	He and I and Kevin Barrett had dinner after his presentation.
	He explained how he was watching the water fill up in the sub-basement when I realized that was the reason for the earlier explosion.
	Coincident!
	with the planes hitting the building, and they created modest seismic signatures far lesser than what would happen when the buildings were destroyed.
	Two students of scholars noted there was a discrepancy between the actual seismic signals and the times the commission had concluded the planes had hit.
	14 and 17 seconds.
	In other words, the seismic signals occurred 14 and 17 seconds earlier.
	This is a hand-eye coordination problem.
	In other words, it cannot have been the plane crashes that caused these explosions, because the plane crashes didn't occur until 14 and 17 seconds after the explosions.
	Now, the design of the Twin Towers was basically three 30-story buildings stacked on top of one another with connecting additional structures to bring it to a total of 110.
	If you went up 30 floors, you'd have to get off, go to another set of elevators, get off, go to another set of elevators.
	There were only one or two that ran all the way from top to bottom.
	Willie Rodriguez had a fellow custodian who was trapped in one of those and was not harmed, so the official account that it was falling jet fuel that caused the explosions in the sub-basement is not tenable.
	Now, what needs to be understood is that the Twin Towers were erected inside of a boat, a dike, to keep Hudson River water out.
	The dike was called the Bathtub.
	And when they did renovation, You can see the bathtub clearly defined which held.
	They had to find a mode of destruction of the Twin Towers that preserved the bathtub intact, lest it lead to flooding all of Lower Manhattan, the most valuable real estate in the world.
	Some flooding took place, but it was limited compared to what could have taken place.
	Now here we see images of the North Tower.
	What's striking is, while we were told it was a collapse, where during a collapse all the floors come down at the same time, or roughly the same time, the official version would call it a You know, this pile driver effect.
	The top floor is cascading, causing the lower floors, which I've already explained was physically impossible.
	What's important to understand is a building we're blowing apart in every direction from the top down.
	That's what we could view externally.
	According to the official account, it was that pile driver effect which John Skilling basically refuted by observing each floor was built with a safety factor of 20.
	It could not have happened.
	And Chuck Baldwin, who is a retired high school math, physics, and chemistry professor, did calculations and found that in relation to the theory of the top section of floors collapsing on the lower, if you take the weight or the force of the top floors as one unit, There are 118 units of upward force resisting.
	It was physically impossible.
	Now, here's one of the most fascinating photographs.
	Judy Wood, who, of course, advocates the use of directed energy weapons on 9-11, calls the bubbler Look at how that building is being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust.
	Building 7 is still standing.
	There's no possible way.
	This resembles a collapse.
	But most of the American public has never seen images like this of the North Tower, nor this.
	A final destruction of the core columns for the North Tower, where they're undergoing a process Judy refers to as dustification.
	You're seeing the remnant turn into dust.
	I'm playing it yet a second time.
	The remnant of the North Tower turning to dust.
	Now, another way we know that this was not a collapse Is that collapse leave a residue of debris equal to 12% of the original height of the building?
	When we turn to Building 7, we find that happened.
	We had 5 1⁄2 floors of debris, or about 12% of 47 floors.
	In the case of the 110-story building, it should have been 13 1⁄2.
	As Father Frank Morales explained twice as a first responder from St.
	Mark's Episcopal Church, they were destroyed to or even below ground level.
	Here's an image of that millions of cubic yards of very fine dust.
	How was it actually done?
	The best account, so far as I have been able to ascertain, dealing with multiple experts, remember, I specialize in bringing together groups of experts to sort out what really happened.
	It was a mini-nuke in the basement that blew the inner tube from the bottom up and then had the residual effects of blowing apart the outer tube from the top down.
	Fascinating stuff.
	Joe Olson is among the experts here.
	Veterans Today has a series of 50 articles about the nuclear destruction of the Twin Towers.
	Now, Judy talks about the toasted cars as evident directed-energy weapons were used, and I am open to the possibility that directed-energy weapons were used as a supplement Or perhaps on an experimental basis.
	There are a lot of oddities and anomalies.
	When we have debated this issue, Joe has explained that the residual effects of the nuclear attack could have done the same damage.
	But I'm willing to be open-minded.
	What does not work for directed energy is the massive debris ejected from the North Tower at a 45-degree angle into the Winter Garden.
	Thus, Jet fuel fires, even if they burn hot enough and long enough, would cause the buildings to sag and gradually collapse.
	Jet fuel could not have ejected 300 tons up at a 45-degree angle and 600 feet outward into the winter gardens, nor could that have been done by nanothermite or by dews.
	To explode steel, an explosive needs to have a detonation velocity of 6,100 meters per second.
	To exploit concrete, a detonation velocity of 3,200 meters per second.
	Kerosene, the principal constituent of jet fuel, has a detonation velocity of only 1,600 meters per second.
	And, Nanothermite has a detonation velocity of only 895.
	In other words, neither nanothermite nor jet fuel nor dews could have had the observed effect.
	Only mini-nukes.
	Meanwhile, the U.S.
	Geological Survey did a study of samples from 35 locations in lower Manhattan and found a host of elements that would not have been present had this not been a nuclear event.
	Barium, strontium, thorium, uranium, lithium, lanthanum, yttrium, chromium, tritium, some of which Only exist in radioactive form.
	Plus, the number of cancer victims among 9-11 responders tripled to more than 5,400 in less than three years.
	Now, today, there's as many as 70,000 who have been victimized by effects like multiple myeloma, leukemia, esophageal pancreatic cancer, Very similar pattern epidemiologically to what happened with the Chernobyl meltdown in Ukraine.
	Meanwhile, guess what?
	The records for the reported renovation work on 9-11 were reportedly destroyed.
	So the fact that Ace Elevator was conducting what was supposed to be the largest elevator renovation in history, all gone.
	Here you see the effect of a building that actually did collapse.
	This is simply a bored concrete structure, not steel reinforced.
	And let me add, by the way, no steel structure high rise has ever been destroyed or collapsed because of fire before 9/11, after 9/11, or on 9/11, some of which burned for 18 or 20 some of which burned for 18 or 20 In other words, the whole idea that fire could have collapsed any of these buildings is absurd.
	Nevertheless, when we look at Building 7, we do see all the floors coming down at the same time in a classic controlled demolition.
	And when it was over, there was five and a half floors of debris equal to about 12% of the original height of 47 floors.
	Here we had Barry Jennings.
	In the morning, he went to Building 7 because Mayor Giuliani had an emergency command and control center on two floors with their own water and air.
	He found still steaming cups of coffee, half-eaten sandwiches.
	A fireman came along and said, we got to get you out of here.
	Explosions were taking place in the building while he was there.
	A stairwell was knocked out from under his feet.
	He felt himself stepping over dead bodies.
	He could not see them, but he could feel them in the blackness.
	When he got out, he gave interviews.
	Really stunning stuff.
	Here's a photograph comparing what happened to Building 1 in the right foreground with Building 7 in the left.
	Building 7, you got five and a half floors of debris.
	Building 1 destroyed a ground level.
	Building 7 was, of course, an enormous embarrassment in multiple respects.
	For example, a BBC reporter by the name of Jane Standley At 457, reported that Building 7 had collapsed, when Building 7 was still visible behind her.
	She referred to it as the Solomon Brothers Building, because Solomon Brothers had a huge chunk of Building 7.
	Which, by the way, was erected over two enormous electrical generators providing backup electricity.
	Remember, it wasn't hit by any plane.
	The modest fires could not possibly have caused it to collapse.
	And the 9-11 Commission didn't even discuss Building 7 in its initial report, which brought on much criticism.
	So they put out a supplemental report attributed to the modest fires per impossible, and where Barry Jennings, who kind of contradicted the report based on his own personal experience, died mysteriously just a couple of days before it was issued.
	Rudy Giuliani, I'm sorry to say, had to be involved.
	He had 150 dump trucks lined up to start hauling away the debris the day after.
	All bad.
	Anyone in New York trying to line up a dump truck, it'd take him a month to get one.
	He had 150 the following day.
	As Judy Wood has astutely observed, it's not just what they were hauling out, it's what they were bringing in.
	Hundreds of tons of dirt to absorb the radioactivity, which is exactly what was done at Chernobyl.
	Philip Zelikow became the Executive Director of the 9-11 Commission after Henry Kissinger declined the honor because he would have had to expose his financial entanglements, which he preferred not to do.
	Get this.
	Philip Zelikow is a professor in the Department of History at the University of Virginia, Mr. Jefferson's university, where I taught twice.
	Philip Zelikow had his area of expertise before he entered government service, the creation and the maintenance of public myths.
	M-Y-T-H-S.
	You got it.
	The story devised on 9-11 was a myth, a public myth, and I am convinced that Philip Zelikow whom they put in charge of the 9-11 Commission, wrote the script for 9-11 as a part of his areas of expertise.
	If you look at the 9-11 theory as a kind of floating in space, connected to the ground by anchors, chains, to evidence such as the crash sites, such as the cell phone calls, such as the patterns of destruction, and so forth.
	We have been able to refute every one of those chains.
	For example, A.K.
	Dooney, who is a professor of computer science at Western Ontario in Canada, Took three types of cell phones and flew different routes and discovered it speeds over 200 miles an hour or altitudes above 2,000 feet.
	Cell phone calls from the planes were impossible because the relay towers couldn't relay them fast enough.
	And many students have observed that in relation to the conversations that were reported as having occurred, they sounded like they were from a drill.
	pre-programmed in order to be used on 9-11.
	Meanwhile, Alvin K. Hellerstein is the judge for the U.S.
	District Court for the Southern District of New York involved in high-profile 9-11 cases where he would not allow them to proceed.
	And here we have a photograph of the brains behind 9-11.
	Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert, as I observe both of whom have served as prime ministers of Israel.
	Here you have The U.S.
	culprit, though George Bush, I believe, was kept in the dark.
	He's not a very smart guy.
	He even reported watching the first hit, meaning on the North Tower, which would not be broadcast until the following day, telling me he watched on a closed circuit Secret Service television network in the presidential limousine.
	While he was approaching Booker, Washington, he has reported several times, he thought, when he watched that, man, what a bad pilot.
	And then, of course, while he was talking with his students, reading from a book, My Pet Goat, which he had upside down, an anti-cart came in and told him that there had been a second strike and America was under attack.
	He went about, you know, in kind of a nonchalant way, telling us we must not believe outrageous conspiracy theories, because remember, the theory of 9-11, because it involved multiple participants colluding together to bring about an illegal end, was a conspiracy theory.
	If you want more, I have two books on 9-11, the second of which is entitled America Nuked on 9-11.
	I brought together some 17 experts.
	You'll find quite a lot there to review.
	Meanwhile, let me ask my colleague Keith your thoughts about all of the above.
	Well, let's start from the last portion there, from your iPad goat thing.
	Remember, right before that guy came in here and talked to Bush, the black teacher was telling the students that a kite hits the steel building.
	And this is more that psychological warfare.
	To impress that, because the next thing they would have heard of would be that this kite, actually plane, hits these buildings like that.
	So this is the impressionable portion on children to keep that in their mind of what's going on.
	And reference to the buildings themselves.
	When you mentioned holograms, we see what they're doing over in Japan now with all these holograms with these massive, what do you call them?
	Dragons and stuff, but I don't think probably a lot of people actually saw planes.
	They could have heard something like that, because when you're sitting in a downtown like that, these buildings are 100 stories tall or whatever.
	You can't see anything.
	You can hear something, though.
	So if you use one impressionable plane again like that to project something, yes, I could believe that.
	And then as you highlight through here, the the dust particles and stuff, my biggest thing is Not only for the loss of the people there, but for what the firefighters went through, because remember how they were treated like trash.
	It's almost like this COVID stuff where scientists are baffled, you know?
	They would not blame anything on 9-11 to what happened to those firefighters and what they ingested through their lungs.
	Yes.
	And would you believe Christie Whitman, who was the head of the EPA, was saying the air was safe to breathe?
	Yes.
	I mean, that was so outrageous and so-called raw, just outrageous, Keith.
	I mean, we had a whole group of officials who were conspiring against the American people, and the damage had been severe, severe.
	Yeah, I only think of the amount of the loss of life.
	And then, of course, as you mentioned there, and your crib notes there, for the war on terror, This country now is $35 trillion in debt, over $35 trillion in debt.
	The only thing we have to show for it is rainbow-painted sidewalks.
	The infrastructure sucks, and all they want to do is just keep pumping these wars and stuff.
	Oh, and by the way, Jim, that video I sent you earlier, that was put out today.
	It's not months ago.
	This is the International World Court telling Israel they have to go.
	So anyway, I understood that yesterday.
	Yeah, I'm saying to you is months ago, the barrister laid out the case for that conclusion.
	He went through all the evidence.
	It was a magnificent presentation on behalf of South Africa.
	So what you're talking about is the formalization of the case for which he brought all the evidence months ago.
	That's the difference in timing.
	So that's where I got today, is where I look at.
	So all this debt, all this death, millions of people have died and stuff.
	Now we're down to the so-called line.
	And if all this stuff comes out that works against what Netanyahu and all these guys have done, it would have all been in vain.
	And yet, look at the destruction that's behind it.
	These guys belong in jail.
	Well, of course they belong in jail.
	There was international warrants for some of them.
	They are mass killers.
	Absolutely.
	They're committing genocide.
	I mean, what's going on?
	They are guilty on so many different counts, Keith.
	It's ridiculous.
	But the fact is that finding by the court is not, to my knowledge, not legally binding.
	Now, maybe as the world's highest court, it actually is at this point.
	That may be that significant development.
	But what's going to happen?
	Look, Israel's already held in contempt.
	The veil is gone.
	All the protestation of victimhood have been repudiated by their abuse of the Palestinians, by the slaughter they've undertaken.
	Would you believe Israelis are even enthusiastic about the soldiers raping Palestinian prisoners?
	It's disgusting beyond words.
	Yeah.
	And then to use that thing about There's that line about chosen queers.
	I just can't imagine the so-called biblical ancient Hebrews to sit there and endorse what's going on over in Israel today.
	And remember, all those hundreds of thousands protesting, they're only protesting Bibi against the hostage thing, not the carnage and the genocide.
	This is what just blows my mind.
	Yep.
	Yep, I get it, Keith, and you're absolutely right.
	Yeah, so again, like this, all this is basically in vain if all this other stuff goes by.
	But again, we, the American people, the world, our Patriot Acts, all this stuff, our loss of freedoms and everything like that are all coming down to all this centered around this one event which was used to spark the entire thing.
	That's right, which is why 9-11 is so profoundly important, and one and all must understand exactly what happened, and why I've devoted the entirety of today's show to 9-11.
	And this program, of course, will be put up on my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer, and one and all can review it there.
	And I just want you to appreciate we have to understand that Israel is not our friend.
	Israel is out to use and abuse the United States to benefit Israel.
	In 2020, Bibi Netanyahu was overheard saying, To his fellows that America is the golden calf.
	We're gonna suck it dry and chop it up and leave it as the world's largest welfare state because that's what we do with nations we hate.
	Remember, I have video of convoys bringing these migrants to our border and they have on the door the star of Dave Hutt.
	Yes.
	The United Nations appears to be absolutely terrified Trump would become president because he might unfund the United Nations, which, frankly, I endorse.
	That's the right thing to do.
	And bring a halt to the movement of progress of the One World Government, which, remember, ultimately was to be Jewish supremacists ruling the world from Jerusalem.
	Jim, did you see that where the IJC said that they had nuclear threats?
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