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Aug. 14, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (14 August 2024) with Victor-Hugo Vaca and Joachim Hagopian
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, ordinarily broadcast on Revolution Radio Studio B, but they're moving the servers, so there's actually not a broadcast over Revolution Radio today or Friday.
But nevertheless, we want to do a show bringing you the information.
I have Victor Hugo-Vaca here and Joaquin Agobian.
And we're going to perhaps be joined by Russ Winter, and we're going to give you some of our distilled thoughts about what's going on.
Victor, Hugo, Joaquin, you are both addressing issues of censorship, which are growing even more massive.
I do actually have an opening story for us about Scott Ritter having been hit.
So let me begin with that.
What a good man he is.
About the latest in Israel and many questions to ask you about the latest in Ukraine and Russia.
But before I do, you had an encounter with the FBI in your home last week.
Can you tell us about it?
I mean, it's more than an encounter.
The FBI executed a search warrant on my home.
We lost count at 30, but we think there might have been close to 40 FBI special agents and Auxiliary personnel who paid my home a visit.
Did they tell you they were coming or did they just show up?
I just showed up.
Two FBI agents showed up at my door, knocked on it.
I went outside and they said they wanted to talk to me.
I said, about what?
And they said, we have a lot of questions and concerns about your online activity.
And I said, really?
Like what?
And they said, well, It relates to the Foreign Agent Registration Act.
I said, huh, you want to talk about I'm not letting you in my house.
We can sit out here and talk if you want to.
They said, well, actually, we're coming in your house.
And they showed me a search warrant.
And then suddenly, the whole area swarms and they brought out a SWAT team in full tactical gear.
And, you know, they're like, we got to clear your house.
And I said, guys, I got four dogs behind the door that are worried.
And uh, you're not opening this door and going in with a SWAT team because you're not shooting my dogs.
And so what's going to happen is put a gun against my head, but I'm going in that house and I'm moving my damn dogs out to the backyard.
Then you can do whatever you want.
I don't care.
And so they were cool.
I mean, look, I have to get to the FBI guys.
They, um, they're very calm, very professional, very courteous the entire time.
Um, clearly executing orders that they've been given.
Um, and they, You know, the search warrant allowed them to come in and seize my electronic devices.
I mean, it's very specific about what they can and can't do.
Um, you know, so they could seize electronic devices, cell phones, computer storage, electronic, you know, things of that nature, knowing the way they are, they stole everything.
I mean, I'm calling them out right now.
You guys know what you took.
They took gifts that were given to me of a non-electronic nature.
They took documents beyond the ones that they ended up.
They took my entire WMD archive.
You know, when I was a weapons inspector in Iraq, the receipts that allowed me to stare down the United States and all the other liars who were trying to go to war on Iraq based upon their lies about WMDs.
You know, it wasn't just my word that That helped me prevail is the fact that I had done the job for seven years and I had seven years worth of receipts.
None of it's classified.
All of it is considered sensitive by the United States, but none of it's classified.
You can't give classified information to the United Nations.
But they found that down in my basement and they seized that whole thing.
24 boxes, 80,000 pages.
And they, you know, I said, you got to give it back guys.
You can't have this.
And they said, well, we have to review it.
I said, okay, but you have to give it back.
Uh, it's not classified.
So they took that, but then they took other things.
They took documents out of my, out of my dresser, out of my, not my dresser, but my, my cabinet here.
They took documents out of my desk.
Um, and like I said, they took gifts, uh, things that weren't electronic in nature.
I don't know what they think they're doing.
I mean, just be honest and put it on the damn receipt, you know, but the receipt doesn't show any of the stuff that's missing.
So it's some sort of stupid game they're playing here.
But, um, It is what it is.
They indicated it was about Foreign Agent Registration Act and two FBI agents spent five hours questioning me.
And I never asked for a lawyer because I haven't committed a crime.
I told them.
I said, just tell me what you're looking for.
You don't have to do this.
Tell me what you're looking for and I'll take you to it.
You know, tell me what you want to know and I'll let you know.
I got nothing to hide here.
Um, but they're they're concerned it came down to They're concerned about my uh relationship with the russian government and that somehow i'm taking direction from the russian government They're telling me what to do what to say.
There's some sort of and it you know, but the other thing is Based upon the folders that they had this thick where they had all of my emails all of my texts all of my communications I said you guys know everything I mean, everything that's on the ad, right?
You're going to see your text.
Did they have a search warrant to surveil you that preceded this
raid on your house?
They didn't tell me that.
They just showed me the texts that they had printed out.
You know, clearly, oh, they they admitted that they've been monitoring me for years.
They said, how long has this been going on?
They said, well, we've been we've been looking at you for years.
I said, OK, I sort of suspected that.
I don't care. I have nothing to hide.
And, you know, they.
But so what clearly is the problem is that there's a pattern of behavior on my part.
Going to Russia apparently is not allowed.
Meeting with the Russian ambassador is not allowed.
It is, of course, there's nothing illegal about it, but under their book it's not allowed.
And writing articles critical of the United States policy on Russia is not allowed.
And when you put all three of those together in their minds, or in the minds of the Department of Justice,
or somebody who complained to the Department of Justice, that, you know, they're saying,
well, you're an agent of Russia.
And I said, well, what is a specific example?
Show me one thing that you say, this is how we know.
They couldn't do it.
So it's, in my opinion, and people agree with me, that they're looking for covert communications,
that they seize my electronics because they believe embedded in my electronics
are some sort of covert communications capability that was outside what they did.
Or they took advantage of being in my home and planted bugs throughout the house.
We don't know.
We don't care because we've, I've done nothing wrong.
I mean, it's a pain in it.
I gotta watch my language.
It's a pain in the neck to my family.
I mean, this is, You know, it's disconcerting to my wife to have FBI agents show up at her work and start asking her questions.
It's disconcerting to my friends who have FBI agents showing up and asking them questions.
It's disconcerting to my colleagues who have FBI agents.
The whole idea, it's a smear campaign.
Basically, they're creating the impression that I somehow work for the Russian government and therefore what I write and what I say can't be trusted.
And, you know, I respectfully told them that they're wrong.
And I hope they can clarify this.
What we do strongly believe is, first of all, I know they don't have any evidence of me working with the Russian government, because I never have worked with or for or on behalf of the Russian government, so they can't have any evidence of that.
But we know that the U.S.
government can convict on circumstantial evidence.
But what's clear is this, and this is what I've told everybody who were telling me to be afraid, be very afraid.
I'm not.
I'll tell you why.
If they had a cognizable case against me, meaning they had enough circumstantial evidence that they could go to a grand jury and get that ham sandwich indicted, they would have done that.
And so when they showed up with the search warrant, they would have arrested me and led me away in handcuffs, processed me and prepare the, you know, the trial.
They didn't do that.
They came to my house.
They issued a search warrant.
And normally in FARA cases, they issue letters of inquiry.
And this is the other thing.
You see, if this was simply Scott, you may have done something here that we think crossed the line.
They issue a letter of inquiry.
They think I have covert communications.
They think there's something going on that they can't trust me to be honest about.
So that's why they did the raid on the house.
They will find nothing because there is nothing.
But normally, like I said, a fair thing, it's not a crime unless I am unwilling to register.
Well, I can't register because I haven't done anything wrong, so I'm not gonna register.
You're not gonna register because you're not a foreign agent.
A foreign agent takes direction from a foreign power.
That's what the statute defines it as.
Yeah, but they interpret direction as me having a conversation.
For instance, if I initiate a conversation with Anatoly Antonov about anything, let's say we're talking about arms control.
And then we walk away and people say, well, what did Antonov tell you?
Well, he told me about the negotiating history between him and Rose Guttenmiller and how she lied to him.
And then I write an article about that.
Ah, I took direction from the Russians to write this smearing America.
I'm like, no guys, first of all, I'm a journalist.
So get the hell out of my business.
And this is an absolute.
The FBI and the Department of Justice have no right whatsoever to define journalism and journalistic practices.
You know, I have editors at RT.
I'm an outside contributing journalist to RT on occasion.
It's not a lot.
And I have editors who receive my material.
And we have an editorial relationship.
They don't direct me.
Sometimes they correct me.
Sometimes they ask follow-on questions, as editors are wont to do.
But that's not direction.
That doesn't fit the statute.
The Department of Justice is literally out to lunch on this one.
Out to lunch.
So your beef, of course, is not with the men and women that were in your house, although we know they took far more than the search warrant authorized them.
Your beef is with their bosses in the DOJ, responding probably to political pressure because of what you've said about Israel and about Ukraine and about Russia, started this investigation.
Somebody went to a judge with an affidavit or affidavits, this is according to the search warrant, that they went to the judge and they said, you know, in accordance with the affidavits that we have submitted, we have reason to believe that in the house of Scott Ritter is a computer, is a phone, and that if we gain access to the computer and the phone, it will demonstrate this, something.
That's the affidavit.
I don't have it because it's a sealed affidavit.
They didn't give it to me and they won't talk to me about it.
But somebody did that.
And here's where I have the problem.
That in order to do that, you have to have you.
It's beyond simply doing analysis.
This is politically motivated because an analysis of the available facts could never Support probable cause.
Somebody had to spin this thing out of control, go wacko and exaggerate and whatever.
Here's why I think you're 100% correct, not because you're my friend and I like you and we work together, but because of the facts in this case.
If they were interested only in the content, I'm holding up my iPhone, in the contents of your electronic devices, they can get that very easily.
By serving a search warrant or a simple subpoena from a grand jury to the telecom or computer service provider without involving you at all.
It's because they think, since they don't know you, that they can intimidate you by having 40 people show up to your house and rip it apart and take what they want.
That's what leads me to believe this is politically motivated and totally misguided.
A. The government is not supposed to interfere with freedom of speech.
B. The government is not allowed to chill the freedom of speech.
C. The government doesn't know Scott Ritter because they would know that he can't be intimidated.
Who do you think pushed this?
Somebody that doesn't like what you're saying about Israel and Hamas or somebody who doesn't like what you're saying about Russia and Ukraine?
I think this is Russia and Ukraine.
I know there's a lot of people out there playing the Israel and Hamas angle, but no, this is driven by the National Security Division, which has a very, look, these are the same people that invented Operation Crossfire Hurricane targeting Donald Trump back in 2016.
Same division.
I just want to point that out.
These are the guys who lied about Michael Flynn.
These are the guys who lied about Donald Trump.
These are the guys who created Christopher Steele and fabricated all that testimony.
Do you think they lied to you?
Because unfortunately, the law is so skewed that the FBI can lie to us, but if we lie to them, it's a crime.
Do you think they lied to you in the five hours of interrogation?
It's possible.
It's possible.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't read your comments.
Somebody says, Scott Ritter's afraid of Israel.
You don't even know me, pal.
I'm not afraid of Israel.
I'll stare them down.
Don't read the comments.
99% of the comments are supportive of what we do on this show, which of course includes you.
Let me just say how much I admire Scott Barretta.
I believe Joaquin is rejoining us.
Yes, yes, yes.
This is just a spectacular example of attempted intimidation and censorship.
Victor, you go, your thoughts first, and Joaquin.
Victor.
It is exemplary of what Joaquin Karkopian just wrote in his article about censorship on steroids.
We are entering into a new phase of this information war, which started with the COVID psyops.
People still don't realize that they've never isolated the so-called COVID-19 virus.
There is no proof of its existence.
So, what they keep doing is throwing more and more lies, more and more fear, more and more psyops at us, and hoping that people will forget, and people do have the Average attention span of a goldfish, so they've already moved on past the six feet apart, past wearing the mask, past taking the bioweapons disguised as vaccines that are safe and effective, past the myocarditis and heart attacks in young children, the sudden adult death syndrome, and now they've even gone past the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
You'll notice how quickly that's already moved past and how all of a sudden They're pushing Kamala Harris as being in the lead without letting people know that she's not even qualified to run for president of the United States because both of her parents were not U.S.-born citizens.
They're not even mentioning anything about the vice presidential pick that she's got and all the things.
So none of these people were elected by the people to even be running.
So there's just so much being thrown at everybody.
That it's got everybody's head spinning.
Nobody knows who to trust, what to believe, all by design.
But what's happening is we're entering into a phase where now people are starting to wake up.
Because this is the apocalypse, and the apocalypse is the awakening.
We're entering into something that most people are starting to realize is a spiritual war.
This is a conscious situation that's going on.
People are starting to realize, oh, wait a minute, these people that we held as heroes, And I'll use you as an example, Jim.
When I first came on this show and you invited me, and you'll notice this if you look back at the comments from your viewers, they noticed that you were very pro-Trump.
I'm not saying pro-MAGA because I want to make America great again, but I'm speaking as someone who voted for Trump twice, who, like I said, I've lost my family and friends and even my reputation and my livelihood.
Because I was told over and over as an artist that if I continue to promote Trump, people will not buy my art.
So I've been blacklisted.
But you have to be willing to not sell your soul or sacrifice your integrity because this is it.
We're playing for all the marbles here.
This is the final stand that we're making as humans.
And they are attacking us in the information war with this high-tech censorship and the fear and the bullying that This government, which is not our government, by the way, we're being led by a mafia.
This is a organization that's been taken over.
So people are under the appearance that they have even voting rights.
This election is going to be a total charade.
I don't believe that Donald Trump is going to win.
I don't even think there's going to be an election.
I think that the way that they're ginning this up, now they're even showing you that AI is being used
to make it seem as if Kamala Harris has a lot more people showing up at her rallies.
They're gonna do exactly what they did in 2020, exactly what they did in 2022.
Kamala Harris is gonna win in a landslide.
She's gonna get most of the votes of all the people, but it's all gonna be the same exact lie
and they know they can do it because they've gotten away with it
and the people are asleep.
But thanks to you and thanks to Joaquin and your daring to have us on
and daring to challenge your thought process, Jim.
I read one of the comments of your viewers, and they said that you're of an older generation, and that although sometimes it's hard for you to understand some of the things that's happening, when you do grasp it, you grasp it in a way that the younger generation, and I'm going to give you an example of a show that you and I have both been on, Sean from SGT.
It's going through what you went through a couple of weeks ago on your show of realizing about Donald Trump and who Donald Trump is.
And so these people now are having an existential problem, a crisis like you did.
And you had it live because people could see how you were arguing.
No, Trump.
And no, that was an assassination.
And no, if you don't think that.
So you were like, but you had enough of a critical thinking mind as a journalist should have to go back and take a step back.
And you've changed your mind over time.
And people are realizing that.
That's why people respect you.
Sean, you'll notice now is starting to realize that General Michael Flynn keeps coming up on conversations.
There's a reason why this guy keeps coming up and it's not good.
And that Trump has some things that he's not forthright with people.
That video that I showed you where he admitted that he's not a Christian and he's pro-Zionist and pro-let's eliminate Palestine faster than Slower, because we need to get that real estate for Jared Kushner.
And he's also realizing that these White Hats are just an operation like the Bolshevik Revolution, where they told everybody to trust the plan so that nobody would activate.
And, you know, he's realizing a lot of things right now that's tough to swallow.
And so we have to, as those who have been breaking this spell, have patience with these people.
Give them the time like we did to you, Jim, because it took a couple of weeks of my coming on this show for you to now understand what's going on.
And you're a very smart person.
So, yeah, this is happening and it's happening at a level that's very fast.
There was somebody who said sometimes events happen in a week that would take a century and sometimes in a week or sometimes it takes a century.
I forgot what the saying is, but time is moving quickly.
And Cliff High was saying that in the emotional response that he's noticing, that something big is going to happen in August, and that we're living in biblical times.
These are times that will transform the way that humans exist on this earth for centuries.
And that not everybody is going to make it through, because some people who can't grasp this like you have, Jim, are going to be thrown by the wayside, because they're going to commit suicide.
They just can't accept The reality of our existence.
And it's real.
I'm seeing it in real time.
Very, very interesting.
Joaquin, I don't think the FBI is going to extend its reach at Georgia to raid Victor Hugo.
But you and I are right here.
I think we're plums for them.
You know, what are your thoughts about what happened to Scott Ritter and could happen to you or me?
Yeah, I think the more over the target, And the higher profile you are, I mean, look how they've gone after Donald Trump with all the litigation.
I mean, we know that the Department of Justice and the FBI are weaponized government entities that harass, intimidate, and litigate, and You know, try and squelch the truth from ever coming out.
They have overreached with COVID.
They're overreaching now with censorship.
More and more people are getting it.
That's a great thing.
But every time they overreach, there's more people coming on to our side of the team, basically, to keep exposing.
So, in some ways, it really helps me feel like we're on the right track.
We're doing the right thing.
And there are more and more people that are joining our team called Honesty and Truth and Justice.
And so, yeah, it's frustrating because, you know, every time something goes on, like just a few minutes ago when all of a sudden my connection was lost here, you know, suddenly I had no internet connection and so I had to work my way back on.
You know, and I always think, are they messing with me?
You know, there's a mutual friend that we have, another Jim from Minnesota, and he tells me all the time, oh yeah, they got us on, you know, cue for, and he gets harassed all the time.
And I have to say, though, that I'm not in America.
I left in 2015 with Operation Jade Helm.
Remember, we were on Veterans Today together and we both basically said, yep, they're coming after us.
You know, this is a beta test and they're coming after the dissidents.
And I was way back in 2015.
Well, I took that as my cue that Because I was already into journalism, I think, for about a year and a half at that point, after my mental health career.
And so I realized with the stuff that I write exposing the government and their evil criminal acts, I just didn't have peace of mind living in America.
And I have no illusion that no matter where you are on the earth, you know, if you have a cell phone, you know, GPS, everything else, they have the technology to locate you and take you out.
If you're high enough profile, they will.
So yeah, I took that as my cue to relocate, and so I'm over here in Bali.
Which is a really beautiful place to be up here in the mountains.
I love it.
And I have peace of mind.
I have no illusion that they might come and get me, but I really doubt it, mainly because, though, I am a low-profile person.
Yes, I put my stuff out there every few days.
I write another article, and thanks to your site and a few others that pick up my work, I have some voice.
And then I do appearances on these interview shows and stuff.
But, you know, I'm not worried that they're going to come after me, you know.
I'm no Scott Ritter at that level.
But the point that I'm making is they will go after anybody.
The more reach they have, the more clout, the more following, the more they will go after them, harass them and even kill them.
And I use Michael Hastings all the time as a journalist that He went after David Petraeus, evil general, evil CIA director that got busted for an adulterous affair and had to retire from that.
And he went after McChrystal, General Stanley McChrystal, another West Point grad that I went to school with, both Petraeus and him.
And so, yeah, you expose the big boys and have a profile where a lot of people are following you.
You are at risk and, you know, worldwide journalists are being killed all the time.
We're at a high rate of a casualty rate just for telling the truth.
So, but it will never stop me.
It will never stop me because honesty and integrity and Victor and I went through this when we had a chat just a couple of days ago.
We're committed to the truth, and we're not going to compromise.
You know, people get offered all kinds of goodies and all kinds of, you know, quote, security, material security.
And they sell their soul to the devil, as has already been said.
But I'm determined.
I do it my way.
I don't like to take direction.
I have people that say, you know, if you do this, you get a bigger following, you know?
Well, I almost don't care.
I don't care.
I don't want to follow the numbers.
Oh, how many people now, you know, are following me?
I don't want to go that route.
I don't want to go with my ego that way.
I'm just going to put my stuff out there, have my own integrity, hope it has a far reach, and hope that, you know, we're going to be able to coalesce and unify and mobilize and fight the evil.
But I have to let it go with my ego and just keep doing what I'm doing.
Those are wonderful points.
I am one with you, Joaquin, and I so admire what you're doing.
It's interesting you bring up Jade Helm because When I rose, and it may have been your article I was defending, exposing Jay Helm, I antagonized Gordon Duff, who gave me the boot!
And he actually wiped my blog!
I had 700 blogs on there!
And he wiped them!
Now, the editorial board eventually said that wasn't fair, and they had him restore them long enough for me to recover most of them, but I thought it was outrageous!
Jay Helm!
Why should they be so apprehensive about exposing Jade Helm?
Evidently, it was a far more sensitive snatch-and-grab operation, something they could do right here in the USA.
They didn't want revealed, and we were being punished because we were doing precisely that.
Victor, you go.
Go.
Wow, Jim.
The show is so unique and so timely and should be saved in a time capsule because What we're speaking about here is divine providence that we've been put together.
You have two guys, Joaquim and I, who were trained by the best at the world premier leadership laboratory at the United States Naval Academy and West Point.
And we served alongside those actually making the decisions of not only global impact, but future generational impact.
So we know who these people are, we know how they think, because we were trained to think that way.
Now, what's interesting about what you mentioned as well, also as a former military Marine, who they try to do to you what they're trying to do to me, which is to demoralize you, to defame you, by claiming that you're a stolen valor and, you know, having you prove your DD-240.
These are all things, just distractions, because they It's interesting you realize that, Victor.
That was so McGillian.
A guy, Joaquin, you probably don't know this.
A guy offered $50,000 if I could prove I'd served in the Marine Corps.
Now, there's all kinds of reason to believe I served in the Marine Corps.
I mean, I did serve in the Marine Corps.
He offered 50 grand if I could show my DD-214.
So I had Kevin Barrett come here to my home.
I opened my old truck with my old Marine Corps uniforms.
Hold out my DD-214.
But of course, no payoff.
I mean, it was just a ruse.
I've never figured out why he wanted to see my DD-214, which of course is your formal discharge paper, you know, showing your status.
Honorable discharge.
I'm interested in your opinion.
Why did he pull this little scam?
It was very peculiar.
They have people working the other side all the time, paid, too, to basically expose shills.
You know, they're always trying to ruin people's reputation, and that's what this ass was trying to do to you.
And that's what they're trying to do to me, and this brings me to what you just said about Helm.
I was a guest on Sean with SGT Report twice, and the audience was really appreciating my critical analysis of this.
And also because, just like I did to you and any show that I go on, I respectfully sometimes, if I have the understanding of the situation in a way that maybe the host doesn't, I respectfully disagree and explain why it is that I have it.
I have evidence That I can show and that I have been showing with why it is that I have my suspicions about General Michael Flynn and as Michael Gill has made allegations about the Pandora's box and or Michael Flynn being involved in human trafficking and money laundering with PJ Schrantz.
So I've been information but unlike you who is allowing me to speak showing again because myopic vision.
Shut me down and scolded me and was like, no, no, no, Michael Flynn's a good guy.
You can't be saying that stuff about Michael Flynn.
And I was like, yeah, but you got to understand he's connected to Donald Trump and look what's happening now with Biden and all these things.
He's being blackmailed by China, by Russia, by the Ukraine.
And so if Michael Flynn is not investigated with regard to these serious allegations of child trafficking, human trafficking, Money laundering, which I am now being extorted in the way that Joaquin expressed, saying, hey, listen, if you don't shut up and stop reporting this stuff, we are going to leave you destitute.
That's a big thing.
You know, I mean, it's like everybody needs shelter and food.
And I'm being told that if I don't shut up about this, that that's how I'm going to be left.
But like Joaquin says, we're living in a time where this is a spiritual battle.
And we have to shed our fear.
And so those people like X-22 Report who are telling everybody to trust the plan, yeah, well, you know what, Mr. Fishman, if you trust the plan, come out from behind the fake avatar and the fake X-22 name.
Show your face.
This is the time for men that if they claim to believe in Jesus Christ, it's time for you to put on the armor of God and be fearless like you are, Jim.
And I respect you with this, because I remember when I first came on, you told me how Alex Jones sold out, because he could have proven that the whole Sandy Hook thing, he would have just been able to use the evidence that you have.
But like Joaquin was saying, there are a lot of shills out there that are paid, that are CIA operatives, that are actually working in this alternative media, and they're being paid to feed information like I was taught at the U.S.
Naval Academy, and I'm sure you were taught at West Point, How to manipulate people, because when you're in charge of somebody like in an aircraft carrier or a submarine for six months at a time, I've got to be able to manipulate my crew so that they do exactly what I tell them without a mutiny.
Because I don't need a mutiny when I'm like underneath the Arctic ice for six months, you know?
So you have to learn, and this is what you and I have in common, we have a degree in psychology because we understand how to Manipulate the mind.
And that's what we were trained to do with these war games.
And that's what you will afford us the opportunity to share with your audience, is how your audience is being manipulated by these people.
And, you know, you have X-22, who just keeps telling everybody, trust the plan, trust the plan.
What is this?
Most ridiculous plan.
They're waiting for all of us to die before they actually come out.
Anyway, there's just so much going on right now, and we have to be fearless.
And I appreciate you, Jim, because you're one of the originals, and you've lost a lot in daring to come out with Sandy Hook and daring to come out with the MGM and the Boston bombing.
And I know that it's been a sacrifice on you with your family and your friends
and your ability to earn income.
Because that's what goes now too and what we do.
People are starting to understand.
We're not living in a material world.
This is a spiritual world.
We're dealing with soul currency.
And that's where we're coming into people.
So it's time to wake up.
Mike King, of course, is also right in there pitching that Commander Trump is in charge.
All this is five-dimensional chess, Joaquin.
I don't know.
There's a point at which the evidence has to overwhelm the presuppositions.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, I have to say that they divide and rule the elites that are the controllers.
They divide and rule.
That is their M.O.
That is what allows them to retain their power, increase their power.
And the, quote, truth movement community is very divided.
We have a lot of these trust the plan Q believers out there that are Kind of like what you were saying, Sean, you know, and, you know, the X-22, those guys, you know, Trump can do no wrong, all this kind of crap.
And it's like, you know, and then, you know, if you disagree and, you know, see the reality more clearly than them, and they're willing to compromise the apparently true.
Anyway, I just see all these people out there.
I mean, I understand that we want to believe that there's people in power that are good, and I know that there are, but We're told that the White Hats are going to save us, and Trump's going to save us, and all of this.
And I keep saying, okay, show me the evidence.
Show me the hardcore evidence.
As a journalist, I need the hardcore evidence.
I can't just, on a whim or a wishful thinking, You know, say something that I want to be, you know, I believe is true, but if I don't have the confirmation that's hardcore evidence, I can't do it.
And so that's what I had that a falling out with a lot of people that are trust the plan types, you know, and.
You know, I mean, they have big followings because they are preaching to a choir that wants to believe that there are white hats out there.
And I also believe that, yes, there are.
I think that there are special forces that are comprised of a number of nations that actually have been going into the underground tunnels They have a Mach 4, you know, transport system.
They do all kinds of experimentation, especially under military post installations in New Mexico and in Arizona and near Vegas.
I mean, there's many places where they have these places and they do horrible things to children with all kinds of research and animals and all this kind of horror stuff.
And I believe that they also, you know, do a lot of trafficking.
Obviously, I've written five books on that topic.
And so, I believe that there are, you know, quote, White Hats that are Special Operations Alliance, and that they are cleaning up some of those tunnels.
I do believe that.
And I spoke to a person Who actually was under Melbourne at the time.
So I feel like that is going on.
However, I really would want them to surface and show themselves because there's a lot of us, a lot of people, they're giving up.
They think that the quote, The central cabal that's doing all these evil things to the humankind and the planet, they're looking for anything to believe that there are good forces out there that are combating the evil.
And many have given up.
Many feel like, oh, we're just powerless and we can't do anything to change it.
And of course, that's exactly where our common enemy wants people to be, feeling powerless, defeated, like we can't do anything to overcome the evil that they put out there.
So anyway, I will never give up.
Not in this lifetime, and I'm just going to keep fighting for truth.
I think we're all of one mind in that regard, our resolve and our dedication to truth and to the best interests of our nation.
I mean, we all sought to serve our country in the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Army.
We have done our best and our nation, I'm sorry to say, in particular the government, has failed us and the nation as a whole.
It's outrageous.
Scott Ritter has more to say.
I thought we might enjoy listening to his more recent critique as we continue this conversation with Judge Napolitano.
But no, do I think they lied to me?
I don't think they told me the whole truth.
But they were clearly, I have to say, the two agents There were about the latest in Israel and many questions to ask you about the latest in Ukraine and Russia about it, but somebody did in Ukraine.
I know there's a lot of people out there playing the Israel Hamas angle, but now this.
This is driven by the National Security Division, which has a very look.
These are the same people that invented Operation Crossfire Hurricane targeting Donald Trump back in 2016.
Same division.
I just want to point that out.
These are the guys who lied about Michael Flynn.
These are the guys who lied about Donald Trump.
These are the guys who created Christopher Steele and fabricated all that testimony.
Do you think they lied to you?
Because unfortunately, the law is so skewed that the FBI can lie to us, but if we lie to them, it's a crime.
Do you think they lied to you in the five hours of interrogation?
It's possible.
It's possible.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't read your comments.
Somebody says, Scott Ritter's afraid of Israel.
You don't even know me, pal.
I'm not afraid of Israel.
I'll stare them down in a heartbeat.
Don't read the comments, Mutton.
99% of the comments are supportive of what we do on this show, which of course includes you.
But no, do I think they lied to me?
I don't think they told me the whole truth.
But they were clearly, I have to say, the two agents, there were uncomfortable pauses Because the answers I was giving them weren't the answers they wanted or were expecting.
And I kept looking at them and saying, Hey, um, you guys clearly have something on your mind.
You're looking at each other.
Just tell me what it is.
Talk to me.
And then they slowly go in and open up their folders.
And that's when they pulled out the copies of my texts, uh, of my, of my emails that go back two years and all that.
And I said, you guys have been at this a long time now.
Yeah, we've been following you a long time.
I, I want to remind everybody the following.
The FBI, the House Judiciary Committee, had a hearing last year,
where they found earlier this year, where they found that the FBI,
through their legal attache office in Kiev, took instructions from the Ukrainian Intelligence Service
to put pressure on American social media platforms, Twitter, YouTube, others,
to shut down accounts that the Ukrainian government found to be offensive,
found to be somehow not propagating the Ukrainian.
So the FBI already has a track record of working on behalf of Ukraine.
I also wanna remind your audience that the United States State Department,
using taxpayer funds, helped the Ukrainians create something called
the Center for Countering Disinformation, that works under the auspices of the presidency of Ukraine.
And the first thing they did, with the State Department present, funding, organizing, and directing, is to create a blacklist of Americans who are called information terrorists.
I'm on that list.
I actually Topped out in their weekly and monthly concerns for a while, the most dangerous man in the world to Ukraine was Scott Ritter.
And they also, with the State Department people present, are on record saying that information terrorists must be treated as terrorists and arrested, prosecuted, and killed if necessarily necessary to stop him.
The State Department was there silent.
So what I'm trying to tell you is that the State Department is working with the Ukrainian government
to silence American voices, an absolute violation of our constitutional rights.
So when you say who's behind this, I know for a fact that the State Department and the FBI
and the CIA have received reams of information from the Ukrainians complaining about my activities,
calling me the most dangerous information terrorist in the world today for Ukraine.
And that this has to translate into political pressure on people.
So the FARA Enforcement Unit of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice picked this case up.
They've been following me for two years.
They have nothing.
Two years, Judge, and they have nothing.
They finally were told what to do because I'm apparently getting too much attention here at home.
So they have to smear me.
They have to silence me.
I'll just say two last things.
You'll not find a more patriotic person in America today than me.
There's a lot of patriots out there, and I support them, but I will take a second seat to nobody.
I love this country.
I will die for this country, and everything I do today is in defense of this country, including, just for the sake of you out there, articulating that America is better off having good relations with Russia, not seeking War with Russia and promoting arms control with Russia.
This isn't because I'm pro-Russian.
I'm not pro-Russian.
I'm pro-American, and these are all good policies for America.
You can disagree with me, but don't you ever say that what I'm doing isn't supporting the country I love and I'll give my life to.
And the second thing is, who the hell thinks I can be bought?
Do they not know that Paul Wolfowitz in 1998 tried to bribe me with multi-million dollars to lie about Saddam Hussein, invite me into the administration of the future George W. Bush, offer me a job at the Pentagon or the CIA, book contracts, the whole thing.
The United States government, or at least those who want to be part of it, have put millions of dollars in front of me if I would lie.
I don't lie.
The truth is my weapon.
It's inconvenient sometimes to people, but the notion That I would work on behalf of the Russian government and tell lies or peddle lies is absurd in the extreme.
And that's the two messages I want to send to the Department of Defense.
You're going after the wrong guy.
I'm more patriotic than you because I give a damn about the Constitution and I can't be bought.
And I'm insulted that you ever thought I could be bought.
You have known for some time that you were on this hit list because you told our audience about it back in June.
Before we get into some substantive things about Russia and Ukraine, were these FBI agents ex-Marines by any chance?
Again, you asked the question.
I don't know about any of the ones that were there.
I did when they were at the front door and they were saying stuff.
I said, I pointed to my doormat, which has a Marine Corps emblem on it.
I said, what the hell part of that background do you think would do any of the things you're alleging?
They went, oh no, we respect your Marine Corps service.
I said, no, you don't.
You really don't.
But in my house, I mean behind me, you can't see them, but I have some souvenirs from my time as a weapons inspector in Iraq.
In 1995, I famously or infamously intercepted a load of gyros, a shipment of gyros coming from Russia into Iraq through Jordan.
And I traveled into Jordan, covertly met with the King and his advisor and persuaded them they have to intercept, they have to raid this warehouse tonight or else the gyros will be in Iraq tomorrow.
And they did.
And we got all these gyros.
But that was just the last shipment.
One shipment had gotten through.
So we had to go to Iraq.
The Iraqis panicked, threw them all into a river.
And I brought in divers and we went down there and we got them up.
And so I pulled a bunch of these back to bring them in for evaluation.
And I kept two of them because we used them as retirement gifts and all that.
There's no danger.
They're there.
But the FBI came in and saw them like, what are these, explosive devices?
I said, no, they're gyros.
And they brought in a bomb team.
I had to x-ray them, but the funny thing is my daughter's fiancé is a welder and he graduated from welding school locally and they have different projects.
And one of the projects he did was to make a cube.
And so he welded this cube together and then he had had some medical issues, you know, and they put those sticky pads on you for your heart with a little metal nipple that you click the thing on.
And so he came back from his appointment one day and he stuck a couple of these on that cube.
So now it looks like a steel box with electrode leads on it.
Oh, they were freaking out. They found this thing and they're like, come down the whole SWAT team.
I'm not lying. I'm not. I'm exaggerating. A couple of the SWAT team, but the bomb squad brought him in.
Hi, I'm with the US Army. They brought me in because...
because they think there's a bomb downstairs.
And I'm like, there ain't no bomb downstairs.
They took me down and they showed it to me.
I said, nah, this is just a welding thing.
But that just shows the level of paranoia that exists when they broker people's homes.
I'm sorry this happened to you.
I believe that you will be exonerated.
It's hard for me to believe that a grand jury I think the people that, not the people that came to your house, but the people that dispatched them, names currently unknown to you or to the public, are the ones that will have egg on their face.
Switching gear.
Let me just say, you know, Scott Ritter, I feel, is A kin of ours.
I think the four of us are very similar in our motivation, our interest, and all that.
There's so much else going on out there we want to talk about.
Kamala is openly calling for all these illegals to be naturalized so they can vote in the election.
We have some of them openly admitting they're there.
An Uber driver said that he was driving an illegal.
He said he was a mercenary being paid by the U.N.
And we've had others come across and say, you're going to be surprised by what's going to happen.
I think this is very real.
When I learned the UN was participating down in Panama with DHS and bringing all these illegals, I mean, it was obvious something was terribly, terribly wrong.
Joaquin, let me get your take on this.
I mean, it's shocking that you have an administration that is openly committing treason on the United States and nothing is being done about it.
Outrageous.
Yeah.
I mean, look at all the yakking they did to, you know, we can't keep that border open.
Well, it's still open.
What action has been done?
Zero to close the border and to start getting rid of some of these illegal aliens.
Yeah, that's their agenda.
They're bringing them in and they're registering them for voting and we know who they're going to vote for.
That's in case their voting machines, you know, that switch votes like they did in 2020, they got that still going.
That has not been And then they stuffed a lot of ballots in 2020, and they can still do that again.
They have all these different methods that have never been corrected or rectified, and so they, I believe, have every intention, if there's an election and, you know, Like Victor was saying, I have also been stating that I don't think there's going to be an election.
There probably will be some kind of false flag event that's going to blame somebody, and they're going to declare an emergency, and they're going to conveniently cancel the election.
That way, basically, the Democrats And I wrote the article just 24 hours ago, calling them demon crats.
They want to stay in office, and that's why they're basically registering all these illegal aliens.
So, yeah, that's their agenda.
And, you know, there was the The plan to the replacement basically the replacement plan to replace Americans with illegal aliens and basically replace the white majority.
You know, I don't know the Caucasian race is even the majority in America at this point.
They've been working on that.
They've been working against the Christians.
They you know, they're they're really And, you know, Victor and I have talked about it a lot, that the people behind this are the Jews.
I mean, they're very powerful Zionist Jews that have been around for a long time.
The Protocols of Zion is their playbook on how they increased the power, and they played it, and they've increased their power.
Infiltrated in pretty much all the administrations of all the Western governments from America to Europe.
They just voted in a woman who they killed 37 candidates in Mexico and they got a now a Jewish woman as the president in Mexico.
They know how to infiltrate.
They know how to take over the governments.
They know how to basically, they were the originators with the Rothschilds taking over the global banking cartel.
They're in the mass media, communications media, news corporations.
They control all of it.
Education is dominated.
And, you know, and then there's the Freemasons that are high degrees and they're in it together.
And, you know, and there's a lot of law enforcement that are basically sworn to oath of the Freemasonry.
And I've written many, actually, chapters in the pedophilia books on these secret societies.
You know, so yeah, they know how to infiltrate, they know subversion, and they have their power.
And they are basically trying to eradicate the Goyim population, the non-Jewish white population.
It's pretty clear.
And so yeah, I think we're seeing it.
And that's why we have to rise up and fight against them.
Victor Hugo.
In answer to your question, Jim, about why is this happening, that traitors are allowing the Constitutional Republic to fall like ancient Rome, I want to say that I agree 100% with everything that Joaquin said.
And then I want to revert back to Scott Ritter and what he said.
The people who we were trained to lead at the U.S.
Naval Academy and West Point, who are order followers or psychopaths, end up when they
leave moving into positions like the private security or the police force, and they carry
on their psychopathy into that realm.
When people are in the military, they realize that they have to go along to get along, and
as they keep going in their career, they realize, wow, let's just toe the line and follow these
I'm going to lose my retirement or get a dishonorable discharge.
So that's how they are able to get these people to just break down logically and then sleep at night saying, well, you know what?
I was just doing my job.
We're getting to the point now where these people are starting to realize that they're pawned.
And when I say these people, those who are following the orders of The Jews, those who identify as Jews.
When I say that it's all the Jews, it's because, you know what, if you're someone who self-identifies as a Jew, and you realize that these Jews are creating this chaos all over the world, and have been creating it for centuries, and it's all documented, and you've done that over 109 countries thousands of times, then you're part of the problem, and you're exposing this, because until we expose this, And shed light on the darkness.
They're going to kill us, because that's the plan.
Now, one of the things that got written out was that these people were paranoid.
Yes, there's a huge sense of paranoia, because nobody knows who to believe or who to trust.
When I was at the Naval Academy, as I was going up the chain of command to report the corruption and the illegalities that I was witnessing, I was noticing that as I went up, following the chain of command, It was the people at the higher level that were actually involved in this and condoning this.
So that makes you go, well, wow, how am I going to be a whistleblower when I go to the top?
So I had to actually go outside of there and break the rules.
And that's that people now are starting to realize that the way that they control us are with these laws.
And these laws are all bullshit because none of the laws that are going through right now are actually following the Constitution.
These are laws that are made up by psychopaths, homosexuals that are trying to leak pedophilia and everything.
And just because it's legal now in California for a 20-year-old to have sex with a 10-year-old doesn't mean that they should do that, because we have to start understanding morality again.
We have to get back to that.
We're being led by psychopaths that are making up these laws that are ruining our sole currency.
It's destroying our culture.
It's destroying our society.
People have to be fearless, like Scott Reuter, and like you, Jim.
And I want to ask you something, because you're the one who has really forged this ground for people like me, who I'm fearless because I see your listening.
And I'm so glad to have met Joaquin, who is a kindred spirit, they're calling us, Joaquin, because people who have been listening to us are noticing that there's no coincidence that you and I have been living parallel spiritual lives, from becoming People with psychology degrees to now becoming journalists who are not sacrificing our integrity as journalists and turning down bribes and fame and fortune to expose the ugly truth.
And so my question to you, Jim, is how is it?
I see what Scott Ritter's doing and I understand where he's coming from, but what has given you the strength to not only show your face, Because like I said, you're not hiding behind a fake algorithm, X-22 or an SGT report.
You're Jim Fetz.
And you've been doing this for a long time.
How do you do this?
And I'm asking you because I plan on doing this for a long time too.
I want to live a long life.
I'm not suicidal.
And I know I'm not being paranoid.
They told me when I left the Naval Academy that I was going to be on their radar for the rest of my life because they knew that I knew things that other people don't know.
So how do you do it, Jim?
Well, as a philosopher, I care about truth.
And as a former Marine Corps officer, I care about my country.
I despise liars, phonies, cheats, shills.
And our government just abounds.
So I'm seeking to give back the benefits I've received from my country.
For example, The Navy paid for my undergraduate tuition books, gave me $50 a month, which doesn't sound like much today, but at the time, in the class of 1962 at Princeton, which my dad could not have afforded,
I had a lot of benefits in return for which I agreed to serve for a minimum of four years as a regular officer in the Marine Corps.
It was just my way of giving back, Victor Hugo, what my country has given to me.
And for the sake of my family, my children, my children's children, and the posterity of this once great nation, let us hope it can be restored to some semblance of what it once was.
Joaquin, would you like to add thought?
Yeah, we all took those sworn oaths to defend the Constitution, and I love my country, the United States.
There's so much history.
I have on both sides, my mother's side and my father's side, history of genocide, the Native Americans through my mother.
And through my father, an Armenian, full-blooded, I'm half of his lineage.
And we've both gone through our share of hardship with genocides.
So I don't know.
I just feel like I was born basically with a sensitivity to injustice and dishonesty and a need to always be upfront and honest and Love for the country.
I mean, I grew up from first grade through 12th grade in Massachusetts in the western hills of Massachusetts with mountains all around and nature and there was a swamp and then a brook, a trout brook, a trout stream.
You know, I mean, growing up in that kind of idyllic environment, And then, you know, being able to, after school or during the summer vacation, go play baseball on the baseball field with my playmates in the neighborhood.
I mean, you know, I had a really great upbringing regarding The good thing is that America back in the 50s and the 60s, there was an innocence there.
Yeah, it started changing in the 60s, in the radical 60s with the anti-war movement and all that.
And I was part of that, actually, even though I was at West Point.
But yeah, there is a love for my country.
I followed in my father's footsteps to join the military as a patriot.
And so yeah, I was given the ideals by which to strive to be real, to be honest.
To be a patriot, to give of oneself.
It was easy for me to make a transition from the military to ending up in the mental health field because I am a good listener and I care about people.
I'm empathic with people.
So it was a very natural thing for me to make that transition.
It was eye-opening to work in the mental health field for 27 years as well, which kind of prepped me for, because I worked with a lot of abused children and adolescents during my mental health career, and that kind of set me up as a journalist and an author to end up through your suggestion.
I always get back to you, Jim, because you were the first one.
I was writing about Pizza Gate, you know, and Jeffrey Epstein, and I wrote probably about six, seven, eight articles, and this is back in our Veterans Today time.
You came at me, I think in 2017, so I think I just finished it.
We had just left there after probably a year or something before you came to me and said, you know, you're in the Perfect position as a journalist and with your background to write the book on this topic of pedophilia and That got me going four years and three months later five books but yeah, it had to be done because I
There is such a, I mean, it is the biggest problem out there.
I mean, when we can't protect our own children on this earth, there's something horribly wrong with our human species to be such Not able to protect our own children.
We have to do something about that.
And then, too, as I got into it, obviously, we know that the elites that are doing all these wars and the pandemics and the kill shot and have the agenda for genocide against the human race, They are also behind the whole global pedophilia operation and that's how they basically compromise politicians to end up doing what they're told and have wars and all of the ways that
The APAC comes in and tells the Congress people how to vote on every issue.
They're all compromised through bribery and sexual blackmail, and unfortunately they're using children to get that sexual blackmail.
Basically conformity to whatever their agenda is.
And that's why we're living in a world with so much evil.
So yeah, we are the foot soldiers out there to carry out what we grew up believing in and want to strive to do our best to serve humanity in the best way we can.
And I think all of us are doing it now.
Well, you've done a magisterial job with your series on pedophilia, Joaquin.
The world is in your debt, my friend.
Well, Victor Hugo mentioned California.
They want to legalize sex with children, but it's grossly unfair.
How can a child give informed consent to sex?
That means that they're just allowing adults to be predators of children who have no idea what sex entails and are going to be victimized and have their whole lives warped as a consequence.
Victor Hugo, the idea that a governor like Gavin Newsom would endorse a project like this is so despicable.
I can hardly find the words that condemn them strongly enough.
Your thoughts?
I think you've opened up the door to a conversation that needs to be had and that nobody's having.
And again, I thank you, Jim, for allowing this to be had.
We've just expressed our hope that those who served to protect the Constitution and who took an oath to protect Homeland from invaders and enemies both foreign and domestic Now we need to shift our focus to those nurses who?
took a Hippocratic Oath to Protect the health of their brothers and sisters and their neighbors and their fellow human beings how to Instead other than the fear that we instilled in humans all over the world with this psyop of the COVID that has people even walk outside without wearing a mask, afraid of holding their children or being forced to be six feet apart of an imaginary boogeyman that does not exist.
And again, I want to reiterate to people, show me the proof that has been given that COVID-19 even exists.
They just use the Jew-owned corporate media Many people believe that the flu and influenza was this COVID-19.
People are not using their critical thinking skills because the teachers, who I'm also speaking to right now, have allowed their students to be dumbed down because nobody's questioning authority.
Nobody's willing to say, I'm not going to be an order five.
I'm going to be a leader.
We need to start getting people to be leaders.
If you're in your neighborhood, Uh, if you're just even the garbageman, and the supervisor tells you, hey listen, there's a dead body in the garbage can, let's not report it.
You're gonna have to say, wait a minute, hold on a second, there's a dead body in the garbage can?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't worry about it.
Obviously, problem there.
So you're gonna have to, maybe not report it to your supervisor, but you should probably report it to the police, and maybe other people as well, because a lot of times the police are in on it too.
So my question to both is how do we get these nurses to not inject children with poison that they know is not safe and effective but will rather either kill the child or doom them to a life of health issues?
How do we get the doctors to not give people remdesivir knowing that the remdesivir will actually kill them?
How do we get the pilots To not say, you know what?
Yeah, I know I'm going to get this job because of the color of my skin, but honestly, I don't know how to fly this plane.
And, I don't know, there's like 400 people on this plane that I may kill.
How do we get the people on CNN to not look into the camera and say, please, go get your children injected with this Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine that's safe and effective.
How do we get the People who are running for office, like Donald Trump, to actually say, even RFK, who claims to be Mr. Trump, needs to do more.
Like, basically, what I'm trying to say is, guys, all of us have put our careers at risk, our lives at risk.
I don't believe that we're that small of a group of people with integrity and without fear.
Listen, I love life.
I want to live a long life.
You know, money's not a bad thing, but how do we get these people at a minimum to stop the madness?
Because we're living in a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad world that's about to self-destruct, and the only ones we have to blame are ourselves.
With your wisdom and knowledge, Jim, and then your psychology background, can you speak to these people?
To the police officers?
To the FBI?
Making these raids on mothers who go to school and say, I don't want my children being taught that they can have their penises cut off because some woke PEI kindergarten teacher tells my child that it's okay to have sex with an adult.
Well, that's huge.
I have an answer.
I have an answer on how to get the doctors and the nurses that are playing along with killing people.
Basically, we have a few state attorney generals that are finally doing something.
I believe the state of Kansas attorney general is taking Pfizer to court.
And saying that they lied, saying that it's safe and effective, that was a lie.
They knew it was a lie and now they're being held criminally accountable for it in a law case.
So that's one venue in which justice can be done and we can force people to Get on the right side of history with doing what's right, rather than harming people.
And then, you know, just keep doing what we're doing, telling the truth, exposing the lies, fighting for justice.
I think eventually we will win.
Yes, there's going to be a lot of probable death involved amongst a pretty good-sized percentage of the population might actually die in these wars that they're creating, right and left, world wars, not to mention the potentiality of civil war.
But I think we got to just keep doing it and eventually justice will prevail, honesty will prevail, and goodness will prevail in this war between good and evil.
I believe it.
Happy with Joaquin's response there.
It's got a lot to do with federal funding the power of Big Pharma, you know, threatening to lose their jobs and all that.
People are being coerced.
Ultimately, it's got to do with liability.
The government Entered into agreements that because it was an experimental vaccine, the companies wouldn't be liable for the consequences, but it was a bad faith contract.
It shouldn't be nullified.
Once you have the companies responsible, they're going to clean up their act because they don't want to lose endless billions of dollars in lawsuits.
After a jury found Donald Trump guilty on 34 felony counts in his New York hush money trial, the judge is set to announce his sentence on July 11th.
the right thing. I want to shift gears ever so briefly about two cases of
enormous consequence. What is Trump?" After a jury found Donald Trump guilty on 34
felony counts in his New York hush money trial, the judge is set to announce his
sentence on July 11th. The judge was a tyrant. So could Trump merely receive a
fine or probation or could he join his former CFO behind bars at Rikers Island?
Here's a look at the potential sentencing outcomes and how they could be impacted by the appeals process and the 2024 election.
First, each of the 34 counts that Trump was found guilty of carries up to four years in prison.
But there are several reasons why Trump could get a more lenient sentence.
At age 77, he's a first-time offender with no criminal record.
The felonies he was convicted of are low-level, non-violent crimes.
And since he's a former president running for office again, the judge may not want to set a precedent by locking him up.
That's why it's entirely possible that the judge could impose a fine or give Trump probation, which would require Trump to report to New York City's probation department.
Still, legal experts say a prison sentence isn't off the table.
And Justice Juan Merchant had already threatened to put Trump behind bars when he violated his gag order 10 times.
If the sentence is shorter than one year, Trump could end up in New York City's Rikers Island.
Former corrections officials say it's possible he could go to the West Facility, where there is plenty of room for him and his Secret Service detail.
Originally constructed for inmates with communicable diseases, the facility is now known for holding high-profile inmates, like disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein and former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg.
In the event he receives a sentence longer than a year, Trump would most likely serve time in a New York State facility.
Regardless of the punishment, Trump would still be eligible to run for and become president.
Even if the judge sentences Trump to prison, Trump could ask for bail pending appeal to stay out of custody while he challenges the conviction.
So we're going to be appealing this scam?
The appeals process could take more than a year to resolve.
And if Trump wins in November, it's highly unlikely he'd have to go to prison while serving as president.
Though he wouldn't be able to pardon himself, since the president's pardon power doesn't
apply to state convictions.
Well, I want your thoughts about what would happen if Trump were sentenced to Rikers for
a year, Joaquin, I mean, what's going to happen?
That's a good question.
And I don't really have an answer.
I think that he will find a way to, particularly, obviously, if he gets elected, if there is an election and he wins.
I don't see him ending up in jail.
I don't believe that will happen.
And obviously, you know, It's a miscarriage of justice for them to have done all this.
They want to stay in power.
The Democrats want to stay in power.
And so they go after him in the same way that they're going after Scott Ritter.
And he has done a few things that are better than the other side, the Democrats.
But I don't have a lot of legal answers as far as how he's going to avoid If they really do go after him and try and stick him with a prison sentence, I think he'll find a way out of it.
But yeah, I don't have too much to counter that.
I haven't really followed all that much with the politics because, like I said, he's been compromised.
He's controlled by Israel, just like the other side is.
But anyway, yeah, that's my answer.
Victor, Hugo, your thoughts?
That was a good answer, Joaquin, because there's no legal precedent for this.
We're not watching a justice system in action.
What we're watching is a show.
Remember, Donald Trump was involved in the World Wrestling Federation.
He's an actor.
His agent is the Emmanuel Di, whose father was a terrorist for Israel.
So this whole thing has been scripted out.
Realize also how they're dumbing us down with distractions.
Just weeks ago, we were having a conversation about an alleged assassination attempt with Donald Trump, and now we're talking about him being put in jail?
Straight.
Obviously, there were people on the inside of the Secret Service that are paid by taxpayers to protect the so-called Commander-in-Chief, which he is because There's an impersonator right now in the White House because I'm not playing along with this game.
See, we need to stop playing along with this game, okay?
Do you need me to put blackface on?
You know what I'll do?
Because some people just need, like, visuals, okay?
Let's just let me bring out this little visual thing that I have.
It's a yarmulke, alright?
So let's just make pretend that I'm a Jew, okay?
Sometimes people just need visuals, okay?
And that I'm a Jew, okay?
People, it's this, okay?
So what you're watching is a movie.
Now some of you may take this clip and you may say, oh look, he's wearing the beanie.
First of all, I'm not even wearing it, right?
Because if I was really a Jew, I would be wearing it back here.
And the reason why the Jews were back there is because this is supposed to cut off their connection to the Creator, to God.
They don't want God to know what they're thinking.
Why?
Because they're always plotting, they're always scheming, they're always like this.
Because what they do is they spend their days trying to figure out how to plan this show.
There's a lot of planning that goes into creating the psyop of attempting to assassinate a world leader on a world stage so that everybody can see this and then believe this people.
You gotta understand, CNN never covers the presidential rallies, but they were there that day.
MSNBC, all these places, they don't cover that because they were all there that day.
Then there happened to be a photographer who happened to be using the right kind of camera to capture a photo that is like unbelievable.
You could actually see, supposedly, the bullets going there.
Then again, there are people who are believing that Kamala Harris has thousands of people showing up at her event when they're actually artificial intelligence generated.
We're watching a movie, people.
Like I said, I can't even... I don't wear a beanie on anymore, okay?
But for those of you who don't know, again, learn.
Don't just believe that because, like I said, the other day I was wearing blackface.
That doesn't mean I'm really black.
Just because Obama wears a beanie doesn't mean she doesn't have a penis.
You just saw an Olympic event where two men fought for the gold medal.
In women's boxing, yeah, in women's boxing.
Yeah.
And a man won the gold medal.
And everybody's playing along with it.
We have to stop playing this game, Jim.
Because that's how they manipulate us.
Because, like I said, Jim, if I told you that I was a black man, if I told you I was a black woman and you kept inviting me on your show week after week after week, And I'm like Michelle Obama running around, oh yeah, you know, like, I'm a black woman.
Shame on you, Jim.
And shame on anybody who takes you seriously if every week you keep inviting me on your freaking show claiming that I've got... I know.
Anyway, this whole thing is nonsense.
No, he's not going to go to jail.
And if he does go to jail, it's just going to make him look like even more of a hero.
And the reason why the Jews who control the justice system, as noted in 1492 with the letter to Sanhedrin, the rabbis, we're going to take over the justice system.
We're going to take over the legal system.
We're going to take over the medical system.
We're going to... It's in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is a forgery, which means that there's a real one somewhere.
There's a plan.
It's written just like a script.
I'm a filmmaker.
I don't just show up on set and say, OK, let's make a movie.
No, there's a script that I got to follow and make adjustments on that script.
But pretty much there's a beginning, a middle and an end.
And the way this is going to go is preordained.
Now, we can change that if we stop following the script.
And going back to What we were talking about, we've talked to the veterans like us and we've made the appeal because the way that we're going to change the script is we've got to break this.
So veterans, if you're out there, serve your country, nurses, doctors, police officers, serve your and protect your neighbors.
Now I'm speaking to the psychopaths, to the serial killers, to the mercenaries and the snipers.
I have fistful.
Enjoy tea with and coffee with because I'm in a safe zone for killers.
This is like the movie John Wick, the Continental Hotel.
This is where terrorists come to take a breather from all the killing.
And so when I'm sitting with these killers, I noticed that even they have honor and they have families and they have grandchildren.
And so my appeal to you Snipers.
Killers.
Secret Service.
FBI.
For self-preservation.
We now know that you attempted to murder Donald Trump.
We now know that you murdered JFK.
Take a step back.
Realize who you're working for.
When you're done doing their dirty deeds, done dirt cheap, They're gonna kill you.
And I've been talking to these killers, and I'm like, why don't you turn the tables on these people?
And what I'm noticing from the killers that I speak with, is that that day is coming.
So realize, that's why this awakening is happening.
Because from the veterans, to the common people, to the killers among us, Those who have been perpetrating this evil, which is just a hate.
There's more good than there is bad.
But the good is asleep.
The good has been brainwashed.
The good has been consumed with fear.
Break through that fear.
And Sean, if you're listening, set the example that's being set by Nathan Reynolds, who has now created an existential crisis in your life, Sean.
Because now, Nathan Reynolds admitted that General Michael Flynn is involved in some very dirty stuff.
Very disappointing.
You knew that, Sean.
And now you have a chance to come out and show your face.
Everybody knows X-22 is full of crap, but Sean, you claim to be the Lord Jesus Christ in your own words.
Live in the light of the Lord.
Live without fear.
Put on the armor of God and show people that you're not afraid, because You're on their radar, Sean, like it or not.
And either you're in it, like Joaquin said, and you're on this team and you really want to win, or you're just a shill.
I understand why he was so taken aback, because Michael Flynn has appeared to many of us to have been at least a semi-heroic figure proposing the crisis of ISIS in 2012 when Hillary Clinton's Secretary of State John Brennan Director CIA and Barack Obama president decided to create a terrorist army in Syria to put pressure on the democratically elected government of Bashir al-Assad, and Michael Flynn opposed it, leading Brennan to suggest he will bomb me out of firing, which Obama obligingly did.
So many of us felt he had a lot of credibility.
Meanwhile, I want to ask you to take a look at some of the facts about Kamala.
Roger Stone, by the way, follows up with it, saying people who killed JFK and removed Nixon are behind the attempt on Trump.
He has a fair amount to say about it.
It's largely right-handed, not quite precise, because Nixon actually was complicit in the assassination.
Here you can listen to a summary from Tucker.
So if you want to understand, if you really want to understand how the American government actually works at the highest levels, and if you want to know why they don't teach history anymore, one thing you should know is that the most popular president in American history was Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon.
Yet somehow, without a single vote being cast by a single American voter, Richard Nixon was kicked out of office and replaced by the only unelected president in American history.
So he went from the most popular president to a president nobody voted for.
Wait a minute, you may ask.
Why didn't I know that?
Wasn't Richard Nixon a criminal?
Wasn't he despised by all decent people?
No, he wasn't.
In fact, if any president could claim to be the people's choice, it was Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon was re-elected in 1972 by the largest margin of the popular vote ever recorded before or since.
Nixon got 17 million more votes than his opponent.
Less than two years later, he was gone.
He was forced to resign, and in his place, an obedient servant of the federal agencies called Gerald Ford took over the White House.
How did that happen?
Well, it's a long story, but here are the highlights, and they tell you a lot.
Richard Nixon believed that elements in the federal bureaucracy were working to undermine the American system of government, and had been doing that for a long time.
He often said that.
He was absolutely right.
On June 23, 1972, Nixon met with the then CIA Director Richard Helms at the White House.
During the conversation, which thankfully was tape recorded, Nixon suggested he knew, quote, who shot John, meaning President John F. Kennedy.
Nixon further implied that the CIA was directly involved in Kennedy's assassination, which we now know it was.
Helms' telling response?
Total silence.
But for Nixon, it didn't matter because it was already over.
Four days before, on June 19th, the Washington Post had published the first of many stories about a break-in at the Watergate office building.
Unbeknownst to Nixon and unreported by the Washington Post, four of the five burglars worked for the CIA.
The first of many dishonest Watergate stories was written by a 29-year-old Metro reporter called Bob Woodward.
Who exactly was Bob Woodward?
Well, he wasn't a journalist.
Bob Woodward had no background whatsoever in the news business.
Instead, Bob Woodward came directly from the classified areas of the federal government.
Shortly before Watergate, Woodward was a naval officer at the Pentagon.
He had a top-secret clearance.
He worked regularly with the intel agencies.
At times, Woodward was even detailed to the Nixon White House, where he interacted with Richard Nixon's top aides.
Soon after leaving the Navy, for reasons that have never been clear, Woodward was hired by the most powerful news outlet in Washington and assigned the biggest story in the country.
And just to make it crystal clear what was actually happening, Woodward's main source for his Watergate series was the deputy director of the FBI, Mark Felt.
And Mark Felt ran, and we're not making this up, the FBI's COINTELPRO program, which was designed to secretly discredit political actors the federal agencies wanted to destroy.
People like Richard Nixon.
And at the same time, those same agencies were also working to take down Nixon's elected Vice President, Spiro Agnew.
In the fall of 1973, Agnew was indicted for tax evasion and forced to resign.
His replacement was a colorless congressman from Grand Rapids called Gerald Ford.
What was Ford's qualification for the job?
Well, he had served on the Warren Commission, which absolved the CIA of responsibility for President Kennedy's murder.
Nixon was strong-armed into accepting Gerald Ford by Democrats in Congress.
Quote, we gave Nixon no choice but Ford, Speaker of the House Carl Albert later boasted.
Eight months later, Gerald Ford of the Warren Commission was the President of the United States.
See how that works?
So those are the facts.
Not speculation.
All of that actually happened.
None of it's secret.
Most of it actually is on Wikipedia.
But no mainstream news organization has ever told that story.
It's so obvious, yet it's intentionally ignored.
And as a result, permanent Washington remains in charge of our political system.
Unelected lifers in the federal agencies make the biggest decisions in American government and crush anyone who tries to rein them in.
And in the process, our democracy becomes a joke.
Now, you may have noticed that the very first person in the Trump administration the agencies went after was General Michael Flynn.
Why Flynn?
Because Mike Flynn was a career Army intel officer who ran the Defense Intelligence Agency.
In other words, Mike Flynn knew exactly how the system worked.
And as a result, he was capable of fighting back.
Four days after Donald Trump's inauguration, the FBI lured Mike Flynn into a meeting without his lawyer, concocted a series of fake crimes, and forced him to resign.
So that's how things actually work in Washington.
Let's stop lying about it.
Joe Biden, meanwhile, whooped like a hyena when the Justice Department destroyed Mike Flynn.
So there is, we have to say, a certain perverse justice in watching something very similar happen to Joe Biden himself six years later.
Joe Biden does not deserve our sympathy.
He's being shafted, but don't weep for him.
And yet the rest of us do deserve a better system, an actual democracy.
When people nobody voted for run everything you are not living In a democracy, yeah.
He's got a lot of that right, but some things wrong.
For example, Nixon was complicit.
He was at the ratification meeting at the home of Clint Mercus and Sr.
the night before in Dallas, so he knew who indeed had shot John.
It's also the case that while Richard Nixon may have got more electoral votes than any other candidate, that was very circumstantial.
Lyndon had decided not to run again.
He was worried that Bobby might beat him.
Then Bobby's whacked at the ambassador.
George McGovern steps in.
The country wanted some tranquility and voted for a Republican.
They thought that would bring it.
But without any doubt, John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump, far more popular, real affection in the heart of the American people.
And then third, I do not believe Mark was actually deep throat.
I believe that was someone who had a deep throat, Henry Kissinger, who had been praying
with Nixon and so forth and somehow felt Nixon was no longer a benefit to the nation.
Victor, he'll go.
Go ahead first, because there's that mention there about Mike Flynn, and you have been commenting.
Go right ahead, and then I'll turn to Joaquin.
Absolutely right about what's-his-name, Tucker Carlson, being sort of right.
He's spellcasting to his viewers that we're—and I want to remind everybody that the United States is a constitutional republic.
And a democracy, for those of you who don't understand what that means, I'll give you an example.
Let's say Alejandro Mayorkas, a Jew with the open borders, allows MS-13 to come through the border.
You're living on the Texas border.
While you're at work, so that you could feed your family and put a roof over your house, you come back and the MS-13 has moved into your home.
So now you've got five MS-13, and it's you, your wife, and your daughter.
And the MS-13 say, wow, you know what?
We like your daughter.
We would like to sexually abuse her.
We like your bedroom.
And we're going to move into your bedroom.
And by the way, we like that car of yours, too.
We're going to use that so that we can transport your daughter over to the people that we have up the street so we can groom her as a prostitute.
All in favor, raise your hand.
Obviously, the father, who just got back home from work, and is like, holy cow, what's that 13 doing in my home?
And the wife says, Alejandro Mayorkas, but he's a Jew!
You can't say anything!
And then the daughter's like, what is grooming, daddy?
And the 5'13 raised her hand and said, uh, in favor.
So now you've got a demise.
It's five versus three.
Majority rules.
The father and the wife are sleeping on the floor.
The daughter's getting gang-raped in the bedroom, and then afterwards she's being transported in the vehicle over to be gang-raped some more.
That's a democracy, people.
That's what Tucker Carlson is saying the United States of America is, which it actually is right now, because you're the United Slaves of America.
So, let's move on from there.
Michael Flynn?
I'm not saying.
Allegations that Mike Gill and a guest that I had on my show, Allison Manning, are true.
That allegedly, through P.J.
Shrantz, he's working to traffic children using veterans for children that are raising
between $6,000 to $27,000 and then paying Michael for consulting fees of $25,000 so
that they can stay under the radar because children, if they're worth too much, it sends
But if you can buy a child for $25,000, you see the thing about child trafficking is, a child can be raped like 10 to 20 times a day.
So multiply $25,000 times a day.
And then once you're done raping the children, you can use them as slaves.
Once you're done as slaves, you can sell them off to be murdered in snuff films.
And once they're done being murdered, then you can use their body parts for organ harvesting and stuff like that.
Children are worth more than, yeah, children are worth more than silver, more than bitcoin.
They're the biggest commodity and the biggest business is happening out of the Ukraine, thanks to Zelensky, which has been proven now that they've been child trafficking out of the Ukraine.
I'm surrounded by Ukrainians and Russians who are begging me to get this news out because nobody's reporting it.
in the United States, and I'm hearing it from people, and I'm disgusted by it.
And you should be disgusted by it, too, because in your own backyard in the United States of America, the United States is the biggest trafficker of children, and we're not allowed to talk about this because, oh, Michael Flynn, he's the good guy?
Yeah, he may very well be the good guy, but he's got some questions to answer.
Why are you using veterans to raise $26,000 and then charging $25,000 in consulting fees?
Like, what if each veteran get a buck?
What's going on here?
And why aren't so-called truth-tellers willing to look into this?
Again, I'm willing to apologize if I'm wrong.
Because apologizing is not a weakness, it's a strength.
But we need to be willing to go down that rabbit hole.
Because if we don't, we're doomed, people.
Our future is children.
And if we're raising our children to be sex slaves, Can you imagine the psychopathy?
By the way, another thing, Tucker Carlson was raised in a CIA family, just like Alex Jones.
And I know who are whistleblowers, children of CIA.
And they told me that when they were children, their fathers would bring them to military bases, and that they would see children in cages being transported by US military cargo planes.
These people also confessed—actually, one of the people who confessed to me and told me about PJ Schrantz and Michael Flynn, she claimed to be of sexual abuse, which apparently a lot of these people who are in the CIA, they get groomed to be part of the CIA.
Gruesome.
Gruesome stuff, Victor.
There you go.
You may have been—yeah, finish your thought.
Yeah, I want to bring up two points.
Victor, you're very, very eloquent.
Very eloquent.
Joaquin.
Of course, I got frozen because they don't want you to hear this stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
Right. Joaquin.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, now we can.
Yeah. I want to bring up two points.
We're seeing a lot of politics and all of this.
It's all misdirection.
They don't want people to realize that we are this close to World War III on two war fronts in the Middle East, supporting Israel, supporting the genocide, and in Ukraine, where they launched an invasion of Russia in Kursk, Oblast.
And don't forget Taiwan!
Don't forget Asia!
Well, that's the third one that's in the making.
The war is in the United States as well.
We've got war in the United States.
It's already erupted in United Kingdom.
They're coming out to the people that tell the truth.
They're calling it hate speech.
Anything that riles people's nerves up, anything that hurts their feelings.
Anything that they can twist around and claim that you are inciting violence and a criminal, they're coming after all the people that tell the truth.
Through all these artificial, very false, unjust means.
Well, that's what we're facing now.
They are enacting these laws that are criminalizing people that tell the truth.
They have the anti-Semitism law all over the place now.
If you dare Question or argue or criticize Israel for its genocide against Palestinians.
They're silencing a lot of people by criminalizing and trying to now lock people up.
I think we were just talking about it in United Kingdom with a situation over there where they're doing the rioting thing.
And I mentioned, I even did a full chapter in one of the books on Britain on the grooming gangs, you know, Pakistanis and people from the Middle East, Kurds and others.
Are involved and have been ball involved for 40 years now in Britain raping young mostly white children and and so They cannot say anything against these people because it's politically incorrect to now criticize either Islam or Basically, the Jews.
So, I mean, and so who did they go after?
They go after Christians.
You know, the Olympics, the opening ceremony.
Boy, that was an anti-Christian thing with the Last Supper, bringing in all these Kishis.
Yeah, I mean, misdirection.
So that we're not paying attention to how our rights are being stripped of us and how they're ready to lock us up just for being honest.
And the other part is the world wars on these three fronts too active now and they're getting closer and closer.
With the invasion of Russia now in Kursk, and then the situation in Israel where they've been wiping out all the leaders of Hezbollah and the leader of Hamas, and I dare say the president of Iran was taken out along with his foreign minister back in, what, May?
In a helicopter accident, that was Israel as well.
And they were just in Azerbaijan.
They just went to Azerbaijan and were coming in a helicopter back.
And that's when that accident occurred.
And we know Azerbaijan is up to a lot of stuff, especially with Armenians and Nagorno-Karabakh.
Well, they got that.
That was an ancient homeland of Christian Armenians for centuries, long before Azerbaijanis ever became Azerbaijani.
But now, nope, no more Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh or Artsakh in Armenian.
So yeah, we're seeing a lot of misdirection.
We're seeing a lot of criminalization of people that tell the truth.
And these are the things to pay attention to.
Not all the stupid petty politics, Democrat, Republican, all this.
It's all bullshit.
It's all misdirection.
So we pay attention to that rather than what they're doing to us with sleight-of-hand criminal acts against all of us.
So that's what we need to pay attention to.
Well, Keenan, I don't think we could have a finer concluding statement for our show today, which was not broadcast on Revolution Radio because they're moving their servers.
But I want to thank you both for excellent presentations and We'll be back in the saddle next week, and I would expect Russ Winter may be able to join us then.
Thank you both.
A final statement, Victor Hugo?
Yeah, I would just like to add to what Joaquim said.
For those who are not familiar with who produced that blasphemous spectacle at the opening and closing ceremony of the Paris 2024 Olympics, It was a Jew.
Now, just like you said, Joaquin, you're not allowed to say anything about the Muslims, and you're not allowed to say anything about the Jews, but Jesus Christ and Christianity is fair game.
So people need to start realizing that the people that are quite literally spitting in the face of all non-Jews—that includes Muslims, by the way, because Tommy Robinson is a Jew, and he's stirring up this in the UK and in Europe between the Christian and the Muslims.
Notice that it's the temples and the Christian churches, the mosques that are getting burnt down, and those people are killing each other.
But you don't see the synagogues getting attacked.
You don't see the Jews getting attacked.
That's by design, people.
They control both sides.
And just like Jon Stewart said, us blacks and Jews need to get together to get whitey.
This is a war on white people.
The Calergy Plan, it's written down, it's all by design.
You control both sides.
And then I also want to point something out, again, how rapidly moving this theater that we're watching is.
I did an interview with Captain Dan Hanley, and he made me aware of the fact that Before the Iranian President's helicopter flew off into that area, the helicopter was brought in for service and it was retrofitted with equipment that allowed the helicopter to be remote controlled.
So, it was interesting that the plane that the Iranian President was in was the only one of three that happened to go down.
Realized no pilot in his mind is going to fly into a storm.
It's just about how helicopters, helicopter pilots fly because they're not suicidal.
They're self-preservation.
And that whole thing was whitewashed.
He believes, and I agree with him, that that was an assassination and that like what happened during September 11, 2001, which a lot of people may not comprehend, they've had this remote control equipment in airplanes Before September 11, 2001, there's patents on this stuff.
And as a matter of fact, the planes that are commercial airlines right now that are flying with these DEI hires, they're also remote controlled, supposedly, so that if you take over the plane, somebody could land it and take it over and the pilots cannot then get control of the airplane.
This is one of the theories that they had for the Malaysia Airlines disappearance and other airlines.
So yeah, there's new footage coming out of 9-11 that shows that possibly there weren't even airplanes because people are realizing that at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania and even in Center, there was no airplane.
Like the airplanes just disintegrated.
Where were the engines?
So there's a lot of material for a whole other show.
I've done a huge amount on this.
Two of the planes weren't even in the air that day.
The other two were still in the air after they'd allegedly crashed, and weren't even taken out of service until 28 September 2005.
So how can planes that weren't even in the air crash on 9-11, and how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
You're right on, Joaquin.
And the terrorists are still alive, and so are the kids from Sandy Hook.
Give me a break!
Thanks, thanks.
Joaquin, if you want to add just a sentence or two more, that would be perfect.
All right, one more point.
Cars are all remote-controlled now, too.
And that's how they got Michael Hastings in L.A.
They raced his car and crashed it into a tree, and he died because he exposed two generals, West Point generals, that I went to school with.
Yeah, take care of each other and don't let the bastards get you down.
Love it, love it.
Thank you, gentlemen, and thank you all for being here.
Back next week.
See you then.
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