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Aug. 2, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (2 August 2024) with co-host John Carman and featured guest Sharon Clemons
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Not just anybody.
You know, I need someone.
I was young, so much younger than today.
I don't need anybody's help in any way.
But now these days I've gone out and I'm so self-assured.
I was like, I'm a gentle man.
I don't want to go.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling now.
And I do appreciate you being around.
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you please help me?
Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B, the second day of August 2024.
I have a treat for you today, a special break from the monotony of the ongoing wars between Ukraine, Russia, the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinian domestic politics, which is turning more and more bizarre by the day.
Sharon Clemens has a new book about the Beatles, and everyone who's followed me knows my infatuation with the Beatles.
So I'm going to begin with an update on some of the latest news, and then we're going to turn to Sharon's new book.
John Carman, of course, former Secret Service, will no doubt aid in a bet because they're trained with facial identification, and he, I'm confident, will confirm what will turn out to be obvious, namely That Paul was replaced in 1966 by a man that I regard as even a better musician.
And it's all ironic, because for much of my life, if I were asked, would I rather have been any other person than Jim Fetzer, the answer I would have given was Paul McCarty.
I turned up Paul's feed, and I realized when I was saying it, I'd already be dead, so I changed my opinion.
In any case, Sharon Willoughby with us.
She's standing by.
But I want to begin with these reports.
We got the economic situation in the West by Paul Craig Roberts.
He's explaining how economically we have fallen apart.
Listen to this.
It sounds like a fable.
Once upon a time, America had a capitalist economy.
Bank deposits were used for loans and expanded productive ability.
America produced its own goods and grew its own food.
America's currencies were backed by gold and inflation was non-existent.
New technology brought into play by new investment improved the productivity of labor and living standards rose.
Profits were plowed back into improved methods and expanded production.
Government subsidized social infrastructure and education.
This lowered the cost of transportation and thereby the cost of production and prices that provided industry.
In manufacturing with an educated workforce.
As an in-state resident, my annual tuition at Georgia Tech, for example, came to about $450.
This highly successful way of running an economy was replaced by an entirely different economy than the one we have today.
Who is responsible and how it came about is a story that can be told later, but not here in this column.
In the current economy, back loans are not made to finance new investment and new blended equipment.
They are made in order to finance a purchase of existing assets.
Loans are made to purchase existing companies, load them up with debt, and sell off their assets.
Loans are made to finance a buyback of a company's own stock that's raising the stock price and resulting in executive and board performance bonuses.
Loans are made to finance real estate purchases and thereby drive up the value of real estate.
That's raising the cost of housing.
The new economy is financialized.
It thrives off interest on debt and fees, the plunder of public asset via privatization and exploitation of third-world economies via dollar-based bank loans that can only be repaid by the indebted country selling its public assets to the American creditors, usually at rock-bottom prices.
The new American economy rests on indebtedness, not prosperity, of the American population, and on the financial coercion of dollar-indebted foreign governments who pay their debts with their country's assets.
The Federal Reserve destroyed family farms and monopolized food production and agribusiness, monopolized the financial system in the hands of the five largest banks, and destroyed the value of the U.S.
dollar.
This is not a portrait of a successful economy with a future.
And have no doubt, Paul Craig Roberts has got that right.
I admire the guy immensely and am very impressed with his work.
Meanwhile, Senator Marco Rubio is furious, demanding action after China Russia and Iran avoid sanctions by abandoning the dollar.
That's what's happened.
We've manipulated the financial system so it's unreliable for other countries.
Politically, they cross the United States.
They could lose their ability to transfer funds, money, enforce contracts, so they've abandoned the dollar.
Meanwhile, Trump was in with black journalists and they were very insulting.
Candace Owens has a lot to say about it.
We may return to that.
Meanwhile, Kamala Paul rocks the race.
Majority say voters won't forget a critical thing about her, namely that she was the border czar.
She's also a total airhead.
How anyone could take her seriously is literally beyond my imagination.
Since becoming a presumptive Democrat presidential nominee, Kamala Harris and her fellow Democrats have been hoping Americans will forget her terrible record as a vice president.
Unfortunately for them, however, a damning new poll has confirmed that this likely won't be happening anytime soon.
Since Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race—actually, he's dead, he died flying into Las Vegas—the pilot notified the tower they had to return to Washington because they had a dead body on board.
Had it been anyone else, they would have gone ahead and landed and everything would have gone on in a relatively routine fashion.
But because it was an erstwhile president, a fake Joe Biden, they had to fly back to Washington.
And in rapid order, we saw their statement not on White House stationery, with a Ford signature of him withdrawing from the race, because they forgot to include his endorsement of Kamala.
That came in a tweet.
The whole thing's phony as can be, and now they brought out a new fake Joe Biden who's four inches taller than the old.
I've noticed about it.
Jimmy Dore has talked about it.
Joe Rogan has talked about it.
This is insulting beyond belief.
Interestingly, Paul, fake Paul, who replaced Paul, is also four inches taller than was Paul.
Since Biden dropped out of the race and endorsed Kamala, as I've explained, all contrived, all fabricated, The mainstream has been working overtime to falsely portray her as a beloved figure.
This, of course, is a blatant lie.
Previous polls have shown Harris has actually been one of the least popular vice presidents of all time.
Of all time!
A new poll now has revealed there's one thing about her past American voters will never forget.
Her abysmal immigration record.
I was watching MSNBC today, to which my wife is addicted, and they were talking about Kamala on immigration as though she'd been a champion for border security.
I mean, it was just absurd, but that's what you'll get on MSNBC endlessly right up to the election.
Indeed, this poll showed after years of watching Harris fail miserably, as Biden borders are, the vast majority of American voters believe she is in favor of open borders.
From the Daily Caller.
69% of voters believe Harris is for open borders, firmly demonstrating her vulnerability on immigration as she begins her presidential candidacy, according to a Harvard-Harris poll released on Tuesday.
Voters across the political spectrum also generally agree with this statement.
56% of Democrats, 69% of Independents, 82% of Republicans, they believe the Vice President supports open borders.
A mere 31% said they thought Harris stood against, including only 44% of Democrats.
Plus, respondents have identified immigration as the second most important issue facing the country, beating out the economy, health care, crime, numerous other national concerns.
Really, it's stunning.
How they can possibly think they're going to win an election with Cabal as their candidate is beyond me.
John Kennedy, by the way, just called out Kamala.
Actually, he was reporting what a news survey had shown about here.
Listen to this.
Alex Castellanos, one of the brightest political commentators I know, and he's made the point that the burden on the vice president is to prove to the American people that she's a serious person.
Margaret Thatcher didn't giggle.
Golda Meir didn't giggle.
When you look at the polls, fair or not, many Americans, and again, this may not be fair, but I'm just telling you what the polls show.
Many Americans think that the Vice President is a little bit of a dink.
A ding dong?
I'm wondering if the strategy to focus on her laugh or the former president calling her nasty and crazy really promotes that push to show she's not up to the job.
Does it look petty?
Does it say to judge her on this level looks like a strategy that could backfire on Republicans?
By all means, get her on the issues.
Keep going.
Get her on the issues.
It doesn't matter, like you've talked about abortion, to clarify what this Supreme Court push might be about, but to focus on this other stuff just looks dumb.
Well, what I was going to say, Neil, if I could finish my thought, when you look at the polls, fair or not, what the polls, the crosstabs show, is that those Americans who have an opinion of the vice president think that, number one, she's a bit of a ding-dong, is that those Americans who have an opinion of the vice president think that, number one, she's a bit of a ding-dong, and number two, that She She's a San Francisco Democrat.
That member of the loon wing, Senator, I'm not casting aspersions either way, that member of the loon wing is now dead even with Donald Trump in one battleground state after another.
Now I'm not saying that might last, I am saying that this loon is surging and if the Republican approach to her is to treat her like a loon and a cackle and she is just an empty suit, I wonder how far that'll go.
Well, I'm sorry if that offends you, Neil, but I'm just telling you what the people of America think.
I'm just telling you what the polls are showing right now.
Now, if you think they're short-lived and they're not going to last, and you're okay with this approach of talking about or laughing, nasty and disrespectful and all this stuff that Donald Trump has said, you don't think part of that is going to kill you at the polls?
I'm telling you what I think the American people think right now, based on the polling that I've seen.
And let me say it again.
I think that, fair or not, and it may upset you, but fair or not, the American people think, those who have an opinion of the Vice President, think that, number one, she's a little bit of a ding-dong.
She's not a serious person.
They've had one vegetable in chief.
They don't want another.
I think he's got it exactly right, and Neil Cavito, if he believes those polls, he's really missing the boat.
They're doing a lot of fake polling now to try to boost her artificially, but it's not going to last.
Meanwhile, the media is smearing Media smears critics of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro as being anti-Semitic.
Shapiro, of course, is Jewish.
He's also the governor of Pennsylvania.
My opinion is Shapiro was Almost certainly involved in setting up for the attempt.
Veep stakes for Kamala Harris because I do think that who she picks will be quite consequential as a validator for her, potentially to help shore up some of those Midwestern, former blue wall states.
And one of the top contenders who has emerged is Governor Josh Shapiro.
He has come under a lot of scrutiny from people like me and others on the left, because in particular of some very strident comments he made about student protesters, comparing them to the KKK.
I'm going to bring you those comments shortly.
But in addition, he also took actions to directly quash protests within the state.
He also is bad on charter schools from our perspective, from a left perspective, and has earned the ire of a lot of unions because of that.
He just came out and did this whole thing, I want to slash corporate taxes.
So that's also an issue.
And he's taken a number of positions that have caused some problems for him among the young progressive base in the Democratic Party.
So there's somewhat of an organized online movement for Kamala to back.
Tim Walz in particular, but theire is trained towards Josh Shapiro.
So, of course, of course, because everything now has to be framed in this way, The real issue that is being alleged here is not about those policy positions or the comments he made comparing protesters to the KKK.
No, no.
The Atlantic has decided the real issue is that we're all just anti-Semitism.
Semites, because Josh Shapiro happens to be Jewish.
Let's put this up on the screen.
We have Yair Rosenberg, who wrote a piece for The Atlantic.
He tweeted it out by saying, Josh Shapiro called Netanyahu one of the worst leaders of all time, but anti-Israel activists have mobilized against him, and him alone being on the Democratic ticket.
I wrote about the campaign against Shapiro and the perverse politics of Jewish identity.
You can put his piece up on the screen from The Atlantic.
He says, anti-Israel partisans have every right to advocate against candidates who oppose their cause, and there's nothing inherently anti-Semitic about doing so.
But, as his name implies, the Genocide Josh campaign is not about applying a single standard on Palestine to all VP contenders.
It's about applying them to one person who just so happens to be the only Jew on the short list.
And to make matters more absurd, Shabir's positions on Israel don't come close to fitting the epithet.
It's become hard to escape the conclusion that some of the activists imposing this inquisition have a problem not just with Israel or Zionism, but with Jews, who they assume are serving a foreign power no matter what they've actually said or done.
Okay, a few things.
First of all, none of the other candidates on the shortlist made it such provocative, like no one else compared us to the KKK.
Okay, so let's start there.
Number two, J.B.
Pritzker was talked about for VP.
The left likes J.B.
Pritzker.
Bernie Sanders is, like, still the reigning icon of the left.
Both of these gents happen to be Jewish.
So, you know, the total dismissal of either the Israel concerns or any of the other policy-focused concerns that the left have is just part and parcel.
Where it is becoming increasingly the case that someone's Jewish identity can be weaponized to silence any sort of criticism or dissent that you may have on what their actual positions and policy statements have been.
Yeah, exactly.
Especially when you compare the comments that he made and how vociferous they are.
I think we have those comments.
Why don't we take a listen?
They have a responsibility to keep students safe.
Students shouldn't be blocked from going to campus just because they're Jewish or learning in a classroom as opposed to being forced online because they're Jewish.
It is simply unacceptable.
And you know what?
We have to query whether or not we would tolerate this.
If this were people dressed up in KKK outfits or KKK regalia, making comments about people who are African American in our communities.
Certainly not condoning that, Jake, by any stretch.
But I think we have to be careful about setting any kind of double standard here on our campuses.
We've got to call it out for what it is, and these university leaders have to make sure there is order on their campuses.
Yeah, it is just a classic misnomer to call everything anti-Semitism and to not focus.
He didn't even mention it, you know, in the story.
It's just all about his identity.
This is like as good as, this is as good as identity politics gets, you know?
It's like you're the one using your Jewish identity to weaponize a legitimate criticism of you, but, you know, apparently that's not anti-Semitic, so whatever.
This whole stuff, it always drives me crazy.
Well, last thing I'll say on this is that in that Atlantic article, he makes a point that I think is an interesting point, where he says basically, you know, he could serve as exactly the opposite of what you say by being Jewish, using his identity as like a shield for the anti-Semitism claims that are already coming at Kamala Harris.
You know, Kamala's married to a Jewish man that Trump says that he's a crappy Jew, I think was the comment, and that you can't believe any Jewish person would vote for Kamala or the Democrats, et cetera, et cetera, that he could help blunt some of that criticism and create some space For a different policy vis-a-vis Israel that wouldn't be immediately tanked as anti-Semitic.
I think that that is actually correct, that if he wanted to serve in that role and capacity, that is a possibility.
The problem is that based on the positioning and the rhetoric so far, there's no indication that he would want to serve that role.
Kamala herself is very impressionable.
No one is under the impression that this person has any sort of her own ideological core or principles.
So that's why if you bring in a vice president who has strongly held views on this issue and is more ideologically committed in the way that Joe Biden was very ideologically committed, who isn't Jewish by the way, then that can have an outsized impact on the administration versus if she actually had her own independent views on the issue.
I do think that that's a legitimate point to make, that his identity could end up being an asset, sort of like a Nixon-goes-to-China kind of a deal, that it creates space or Bill Clinton-ending welfare kind of deal, where it creates the space to blunt those charges of anti-Semitism.
I just see no indication that he actually would want to serve in that role, which is why there is such a concern.
As I mentioned before, the concerns with him go beyond just Gaza also, in terms of his policy orientation.
You know, promising corporate tax cuts, you know, being very, like, Obama-esque in terms of his commitment to charter schools and voucher programs and those sorts of things, which have earned the ire of teachers unions in the state.
And then the other potential issue for him is these allegations about a sexual harassment cover-up among a close aide that were a big deal within the state of Pennsylvania.
But, Sagar, I think, you know, it looks increasingly likely it's going to be Josh Shapiro.
Yeah, I would bet pretty good money on it.
At the same time, I think the confounding variable is the UAW did endorse Kamala Harris just two days ago.
They said that their two candidates are, what was it, Tim Walz and Andy Beshear.
Andy Beshear unlikely.
So it could be Tim Walz, you know, certainly possible.
I mean, don't get my hopes up.
I'm prepared for defeat.
It takes a genius.
It's Philadelphia.
It's a swing state.
It's a very popular guv.
You know, he's more popular than Tim Walz even in his own home state.
It's the most likely tipping point state.
He is very popular and her launch is her like launch with her VP pick is in Philadelphia.
It's literally in Philadelphia.
So, I mean, either that's like a giant F you to him, because can you imagine picking, like, Tim Walz and Ian Shapiro's date?
But, I mean, I guess crazier things have happened.
Her aides are promising, oh, it's had nothing to do, the schedule was already pre-set, it had nothing to do with her pick.
Maybe, maybe not.
We'll see.
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Let me just say, I think that Shapiro is the likely choice.
As I mentioned before, I think Shapiro was involved in the attempt on Trump.
By the way, I think there was a real plot to take out Trump, but that the Trump people picked up on it, flipped the script to turn him into a live hero rather than a dead duck.
But when Shapiro talks about protecting Jewish students I was on campus for 35 years.
No one cared who was Jewish, who was not Jewish.
That persists today.
They're anti-genocide.
None of this is anti-Jew.
It's anti-genocide.
And I spent my third year as a graduate student at Columbia.
That was Butler Library there in the background.
And while there are a lot of Jewish students at Columbia, really, I never sensed racism to be an issue on any campus over 35 years, and today I don't believe it is again.
It's been a manufactured issue.
The Jews love to play the victim card, and they'll do it again and again and again.
Meanwhile, I believe Kamala is such an airhead that it's preposterous what they're trying to do to turn her into some great leader.
Before we turn to Sharon's new book on the Beatles, John, I want to get your and Sharon's thoughts about these stories just being covered here.
John first.
Go ahead, John.
I went through heck this morning trying to get into the show because I had to get up at 6 a.m.
I got the car fixed.
People have been trying to break into my car and so forth, so anyway.
Yeah, I was getting as much as I could while I was sipping my first cup of coffee.
And it appears there's a lot of stuff going on that people just don't know.
And you're right about this stuff, because these people are backstabbers.
If you studied Eastern religions like I have, I did that my first year of college up in the desert.
By a rabbi, for instance, okay?
By a rabbi.
Yeah, I know.
People are people.
Everybody's different.
You can't collect them all in one piece.
Are you still there?
I just got a computer glitch just now.
I'm hearing you.
Yeah, somebody's messing with my computer again.
That's Google Chrome trying to take away the stuff.
But yeah, I know what's going on with these people.
I protected the Israelis at the Israeli embassy, so I've got a special inside connection with a lot of these people, including the fact that I protected Ammar Sadat, Menachem Begin, and Jimmy Carter when they were doing the peace talks back at the White House in 77.
They're always going to play the race card.
It's the same thing.
The Muslims play their card.
The Jewish people, certain extremists will play their card.
And in between is all this other stuff.
And I've had contact with Bibi Netanyahu.
He's not returning his emails this week.
But they're busy over there.
They're getting rid of the bad guys.
But if it was me, like in the old days, the Mossad doesn't tell you.
They go out and do it.
You know, just because it looks like an accident doesn't mean it was an accident.
You know, all these other acronyms.
Let me get Sharon's take.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
What's your view, Sharon, about Kamala as the nominee of the Democrat Party?
Frankly, I don't think she will be, but I want your thoughts.
Yeah.
Well, if we actually had an honest election this time, I can't imagine how she could win, and it has nothing to do with just, you know, her
A silly cackle and those things, it has to do with the fact that she was, no matter how many times they deny it, she was, the borders are, and under her reign as borders are, they open the borders even wider, and people have just been pouring in, and everybody knows it, and they're not going to forget, or at least most people I think won't forget, that she was the one who was supposed to stop it and did just the opposite.
And for that reason, if we had any kind of honest election, I do not believe she would be elected.
There was one interview she was doing.
I might have been on ABC, though this might be giving them too much credit.
Where the host was asking her about the border and she said, well, we've been to the border.
And he said, well, you haven't been to the border.
And she said, well, I haven't been to Paris either.
How outrageous is that?
We'll be right back with Sharon and her new book on the Beatles.
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Well, let me just say of all the controversial subjects I address,
the two that evoke the most emotional responses are, number one, Sandy Hook, the two that evoke the most emotional responses are, number one, Sandy Hook, where some people can't wrap their mind around the idea that the government could lie to us so egregiously, and that the deception could be perpetuated through the weaponization But believe me, I've been there, done that.
Go to my blog for the latest, my reply.
To the plaintiff's response to my motion to recuse Judge Frank Remington of the Dane County Circuit Court where the abuses were in six pages.
I give you an analysis of exactly how it was done.
When I was in court, without an attorney—remember me saying myself, because I couldn't find an attorney who was willing to step into the fray—they beat me like a piñata.
But I've been able now, stepping back, to evaluate the scene, and I've diagnosed exactly how it was done.
I've sharpened my legal skills.
I've been writing a series of briefs that are devastating.
To the circuit court, in which I was found liable for defamation, where I had, just to make one simple point, where I had two forensic document experts substantiating that I was correct in describing the death certificate I published in the book, which had no file number, no town or state, certification is fake!
But the judge just set them aside as somebody else's opinion and that they weren't helpful.
So I had this massive evidence that proof after proof after proof he did not admit as evidence so that he could find there were no disputed facts and rule against me on the basis of a summary judgment.
You want to understand how it's done.
Here's a simple way.
Six pages.
Go to my blog, James H. Fitzgerald, where there's a second story there now.
The other is Paul Fall, Paul McCartney, false Paul, fake Paul.
Sharon has a new book about the Beatles.
I can't wait to hear what she has to say.
But this too, just like Sandy Hook, But folks, absolutely stunning emotional responses, even when the evidence is simply overwhelming.
I mean, they're different heights.
They have different shapes of the skull.
They have different teeth.
They have different palates.
Sharon, tell us, what drew you into this immense controversy?
Because I'm just delighted you have a new book about it.
Tell us.
Well, I will do that.
And do you want me to show the whole book?
I don't know if you can see it.
It's got a big question mark.
Did I miss a bottom of the question mark?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But and it's all about an embedded puzzle that the Beatles put into all of their works, starting at the beginning of 1967 and running through 1970.
And it includes all of their songs, their album covers, their two movies that they made during that period.
And all of the videos and all of these things contain a vast network of interconnected clues.
There are just hundreds and hundreds of clues.
And when the puzzle is solved, they tell a highly complex story of what happened to the original Paul McCartney.
And that's something I have always wanted to know.
And can you hear me all right?
Yes, yes, yes.
Go right ahead.
So, well, I'll tell you the way that I got into this and actually just to give a little brief history.
I was a huge Beatle maniac in elementary school and that started.
Back in 1964, when the Beatles first released their first album.
Now, do you want me to explain for any younger viewers exactly what Beatlemania was?
Oh, sure, sure.
I was a little older, but my younger siblings were into the Beatles long before I caught up with them.
And today, I use their music as my bumper music for my shows.
If you go to my...
RBN Show.
You'll hear eight or ten different Beatles introducing because it has more breaks than does this.
You know, I'm a huge Beatle fan.
So please, yeah, sure.
Go right ahead, Sharon.
I like the way you're telling the story.
Well, Beatlemania was a phenomenon that broke out in late 63 in England.
And then, in the beginning of 1964, when Meet the Beatles was released in the United States, Beatlemania quickly spread to the United States and to Canada.
And what Beatlemania in effect was, was everywhere the Beatles went, There were throngs of screaming girls that would just create a frenzy.
I mean, it was amazing.
It was hysteria.
And as Beatlemania spread around the world, both young men and young women and girls and boys, they would all We're all becoming increasingly obsessed with these new rock idols, and the media was obsessed with them, too.
And the reason we know that is because everything the Beatles did and everything they said had to be urgently reported to the public.
No matter how inane, it just had to be reported.
So the Beatles began touring all around the world.
They toured all around North America, all of Europe, the Asia Pacific region, including Japan and the Philippines.
And they were just huge hits everywhere.
And everywhere they went, there was more and more craziness and screaming.
And everybody was having a great time, except maybe the parents.
But in general, kids were having a great time and all the Beatles fans were.
But it all came to a really abrupt halt on, let's see, it was August 29, 1966.
And That was the day of the Beatles' last concert on their American tour in 1966.
And that happened at Candlestick Park, and it was in San Francisco.
And people didn't realize what was going on at the time, but shortly after that, when the Beatles got back to England, their manager, Brian Epstein, announced that the Beatles would no longer tour.
Mind you, Sharon, that was in October, and Paul's death appears to have taken place on 9-11, on September 11, 1966.
So you're really talking about the last major concert they had at Candlestick Park, which was a huge success.
Nobody knew what was going to happen in the sequel.
When Epstein announced they were no longer going to tour, he gave a flimsy excuse that they couldn't hear themselves play as though they gave a damn.
I mean, the whole idea of these concerts was the adulation, the experience, the adrenaline.
So it was a preposterous story.
Go for it.
That's right.
That's right.
I think it was October 2nd or 3rd when he made the announcement that they would no longer tour.
It just came as such a shock because they gave all sorts of excuses, you know, that they were tired and that they were tired of all the screaming at them and they couldn't hear themselves play.
And of course, none of it made any sense because these were very this was the most popular rock group on the planet and they were in their 20s.
In fact, Paul was only 21.
Four and George was 23.
Here they were in their 20s at the height of their fame.
And then it just suddenly all came to an abrupt halt.
Not that they didn't continue to make records.
They did, of course.
But, you know, the Beatles fans weren't going to be able to see them live anymore.
And that was very, very upsetting to a lot of Beatles fans.
So why they stopped touring really was a mystery, and a mystery that has now been solved, but for a long time, nobody really understood what it was.
So anyway, when Beatlemania died down, which was really in late 66, after that tour, then the next major event that happened was in 1967.
And in June of 1967, Sergeant Peppers was released.
It actually came out a few days earlier in late May in the UK, but Americans first saw it in June of 1967.
And when I saw it as a big Beatle maniac, and I was still in elementary school, I was so shocked.
I was just so shocked at that cover because I knew that wasn't Paul McCartney on the cover.
It didn't look anything like the Paul McCartney that I knew.
And I sent you a picture of The person that I recognize as Paul McCartney, who is the person who won the MBE in 1965, along with the other Beatles.
And let's see if we can come up with that.
Here's just a summary of your book.
I might throw it in now, and it does have your name in the poll question mark.
Elaborate puzzle hidden in Beatles songs, movies, and videos from the psychedelic era.
The solution to the puzzle reveals an amazing story.
One that explains many things that have remained a mystery about the Beatles over the years.
For example, why did the Beatles suddenly stop touring in 1966?
Why did their physical appearance change so radically by the end of the year?
Why did they begin to release songs with lyrics that didn't make any sense?
Do they have a hidden meaning, then, too?
Why did many fans eventually come to believe that Paul McCartney had been replaced in 1966?
If he was replaced, what happened to the original James Paul McCartney?
Destroy the Beatles embedded into their works provides the answer to all these questions and many more.
No, that's not true.
There he is.
That's the real Paul McCartney.
A real James Paul McCartney.
Yes, yes, yes.
And you can see how cute he is, or at least I think he's cute.
Oh yeah, all the girls thought he was the cute one.
Absolutely, no doubt about it.
Not only was he cute, but he had it, and he had it in spades.
He was the boy of the 1960s.
Absolutely.
He was just a fabulous young man.
Fabulous.
So there was no mistaking who Paul McCartney was.
And so you can imagine the shock of someone who recognized who he was and then seeing that character that shows up on Sergeant Peppers.
And he has paler skin.
I don't know if you can see in this picture, but he has a longer face.
You can clearly see the longer face.
He has different eye sockets.
He's just a different person.
And this is one example, but we have many examples.
I know you have many pictures to show.
Um, there's no question that they are 2 different people.
John, John, I know you're eager to comment because this is what I do for a living when I was law enforcement is identification.
And I was just looking at it superficially.
I've never seen this particular photo, but it.
His lips seem to match the same because he tends to look like he's got a puffy lip on this photo and so does the other one.
I look at the bridge of the nose, the eyes, you mentioned the sockets and that's very key that you should even say that because a lot of people don't get the fact that You may change all over the face.
That's right.
Even the ears.
You got to look at the ears.
And if that earlobe is off, I've identified people and debunked all kinds of people, including people like Joyce.
Somebody claimed Joyce was Elvis.
I've seen Princess Di not age progressed.
I even got one right now with Michael Jackson.
But if the eye sockets change, that's not the same skull.
It's not the same person.
If the distance between the eye socket to the eye socket and the retinas are basically in the same small range, the nose, the lips, forehead, even pock marks, marks, scars, tattoos, but I can't quite make his left ear.
If I had a better picture, I could say, yeah, that looks like the same guy to me, but he's fatter in the left picture.
No, the ears actually are different, John, and Paul is the only one I've ever heard of who has worn a fake earpiece to conceal that he does not have Paul's ears.
No, no, of course.
It's just I can't see it.
Here's another of the two of them.
That's a definite.
Yeah, that's a definite.
I wanted to say something in particular about this picture because Paul had a very round face and this is a good picture of a full frontal picture of his round face.
And this is a very rare picture on the right or it's my right.
And it was taken during 1967 during the recording of Fool on the Hill.
And the reason it's such a rare picture is in addition to the plastic surgery that fall had, or a person we now know, whose name is William or Billy, but.
He had plastic surgery, but that wasn't enough.
He had to have fillers injected into his face to try to recreate the roundness of Paul's face.
And here's a picture of Billy without the fillers.
And it's very rare.
And actually, once I had cited this in the book... Sorry about the smoke alarm.
I actually replaced all the batteries.
I thought we had it fixed.
I can't even hear it.
I'm sorry.
Keep going, Sharon.
Oh, I can't even hear your smoke alarm.
My fire alarms are going to be tested here in my building.
That's weird.
Okay.
Today of all days, right?
Hey, but that's Paul that you say with the flute.
No, no, no.
That's false.
That's a fake Paul.
This is before he had the Botox and so forth, John.
Oh, I get it.
How round is Paul's face on the left?
How round and how oval and oblong is the face on the right for false, fake Paul, false Paul.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so that shows a very totally different shape of a face.
And that is one of the many ways that you know that this replacement is not the same person as Paul McCartney.
But although there's so many things, actually, one of the best ways to see that they are two different people is if you go to YouTube and you type in Paul McCartney, June 19th, 1967 interview, you will see an interview of Fall, the new Paul McCartney.
And then if you look carefully at that face, but then in another window, you bring up in YouTube, The video of, well, in the search thing, you type in Paul McCartney, 1964, Melbourne, Australia interview.
And what you see there is bio Paul or the original Paul.
And you see him from the exact same perspective that you see the picture, the video that was taken in 1967.
And it is so very blatantly obvious, as obvious, almost as these two pictures, that is totally different.
Person and he has a different voice too, but and he has a very different personality.
Well, actually, he was known as the man of a thousand voices.
He could imitate anyone's voice.
That's why, one of the reasons they liked Buzzy Boreson's resemblance to Paul.
And after they sent him to Africa for some touch of cosmetic surgery, John thought, yeah, he could probably pass.
But that's when they began wearing, changing their hairstyle, covering features of their face, growing mustaches and all that concealed that it wasn't the real Paul.
Mm-hmm.
That's right.
Sharon, could I interject real quick?
Yes.
Because Jim brought up a point about the voice and everything, and you talked about voice.
I've done some of these type of research things where you could take the voice of the person and they digitally enhance or analyze it over a special computer.
There's a guy named Curtis Crowe over in Pennsylvania.
I did this years ago with fake voices of Elvis that came out only 55%.
So if you have an actual digital loaded voice of the suspect, then one with the real person, they could send it off.
Now, even if a person has damage to their trachea or vocal cords, you're still going to get within certain range, 95 to 100, unless it's just so bad, like Val Kilmer is totally lost his vocal cords due to trachea cancer.
But I'm just throwing that out there as part of another investigative tool I've actually used.
I think Jim has used some of that too, right, Jim?
Say that again, John?
You've used voice analysis on some of your research also?
Yes.
Or maybe photo enhancement stuff, either way.
Photographic analysis, yeah.
They're clearly different, Lee and Paul.
Do continue, Sharon.
Okay, well, and just to the point about the voice, in 1969, Dr. Henry Truby, who was the Director of Language and Linguistics at the University of Miami, did a study on the Beatles records and discovered that there were multiple people singing as Paul McCartney, and that wasn't true of the other three Beatles.
So he could clearly tell a difference between the Paul who sang yesterday, In 1965, and the Paul Hussein Penny Lane in 1967, because they had different voice prints.
Very good.
That was a very interesting study.
Yes.
And sometimes Paul, or Fall, clearly tried to sound more like Paul, but in videos like the ones I just pointed out, which are far apart in time, they clearly don't look like I mean, they don't sound like the same person, in addition to not looking like the same person.
Yeah.
And so it's a very interesting comparison.
The guy was incredibly creative, and I think he took the Beatles' interactions they would never have gone but for his joining the band.
You know, when Linda Eastman first introduced herself to him, she walked up and said, Hi, I know you're not Paul.
When did you join the band?
Yes, yeah.
And they'd wind up marrying and have children.
Well, I did want to mention one other thing.
When Sgt.
Peppers came out and I was so disappointed to see this strange character on that album, on the cover of that album, I just couldn't make sense of it.
I couldn't understand why none of the other Beatles fans I knew were saying that he was a different person, why the media wasn't saying it.
And you know, back in those days, we actually believed what the media said and what the government said.
But more importantly, we believed what the Beatles said, and the Beatles weren't saying it.
So I couldn't make sense of it.
But later that summer of 1967, I read about an interview that Paul had given in England.
And in this interview, He admitted that he had taken LSD and that he had taken LSD four times.
Well, this was a shock to Beatles fans because the Beatles had never been associated with illicit drugs.
And of course, we had always been told they would fry your brain and do all sorts of horrible things to you.
So finally, because no one was admitting that this was not Paul, I finally guessed as a kid in elementary school, I just thought, well, maybe LSD just ruins your looks.
That's the only thing I can think of.
I mean, so, well, I went on, I graduated from elementary school and lived my life and didn't worry about the Beatles anymore.
I did enjoy some of the songs on the White Album in particular and Abbey Road, but I just really didn't worry about the Beatles.
And so.
Fast forward more than 40 years, and in 2012, I began to see all this disclosure material about the Beatles and about Paul McCartney in particular.
And it was coming from clearly from sources close to the Beatles organization and close to Paul McCartney.
And there were a couple of video series.
You may remember them like the Winged Beatle and the Rotten Apple series.
And there were a few articles and other things.
But none of all of that was either very cryptic or just hinting at things.
It wasn't until the memoirs of Billy Shears came out that someone actually was telling the story of The Replacement.
And I know you are familiar with this, but for anyone else who's listening, The Memoirs of Billy Shears is a book that first came out in 2009 and successive versions of it have come out and increasingly told more and more of the story of Sir Paul McCartney.
And Sir Paul McCartney is the replacement Paul.
He was the one who was knighted.
And so in this book, which claims to be completely based on material provided by Sir Paul McCartney himself, it tells his story, and it tells that his real name is William Shepard, and that he replaced Paul McCartney in 1966, and then gives lots of other details.
But because this book came out in novel form, and there There are some strains of fiction in it.
I didn't really take it to heart too much, but as more and more changes and additions to the book came out, there began to be more and more in the book that was totally nonfiction.
And the book tells you what's nonfiction, and it also tells you what is fiction, which is the smaller part of the book.
And then it also leads you to understand the rest of the book has to be verified by you.
If you want to know for sure.
So anyway, I was only interested in the nonfiction parts and whatever I could prove myself.
But in general.
It tells a lot about Paul's replacement that is provable and that clearly is nonfiction and the fiction part, unfortunately, is the part about what happened to the original Paul, which is what I wanted to know.
Well, There are two interesting things, though, about this book.
One of the things that I was able to prove to myself when I read it was that the last six albums that the Beatles issued were all primarily focused on the story of Paul.
And that certainly isn't obvious on the surface, nor is it obvious why that story should be so important that all these Beatles albums should be focused on it.
But I was able to prove that to myself, and I prove it in the book as I take apart all these clues and show you the research I've done.
And there's no question that the reason that the Beatles implanted this story is because the story is really, really shocking.
They were not allowed to talk about what happened to Paul.
And the only way they could make sure that someday the public would know is by implanting this puzzle.
Because when the puzzle was solved, and eventually they knew it would be solved, it was going to reveal the whole story.
And it's a very intricate story.
It has dates and places and people and all sorts of details of what went on.
And now I know that back in 1969, you know, a lot of people recognize there were Paul is dead clues on those albums, but.
This is something very different.
It is a highly detailed, complete story involving all sorts of people and places.
Before we turn to the story, John, you want to squeeze in a few words?
Go for it.
Yeah, it was just a question, because I pulled up a picture because I do that.
I'll look it up.
I pulled up a nice, interesting picture of a Paul McCartney pre-1966 and one of a guy named Billy Campbell.
Now, you said Billy Shepard.
Is that the same guy, Billy Campbell, too?
Well, interestingly, William Shepard is what this replacement Paul says his name is, but William Campbell was a name that was floated in 1969 in a story that was arranged by the Beatles organization.
And it turns out that William Campbell is not The real the name of the real person that replaced him that William Campbell was actually a deliberate flu put out and it is part of this puzzle.
So it's another alias, but it's a clue.
That's that's good point.
Yeah.
Yes.
And this person that you're showing on the screen is not Paul McCartney and it's not his replacement either.
In fact, that is a rock star that I recognize, but I can't think of his name.
But he's definitely a different person.
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- You're listening to Revolution Radio, freedomslips.com, 100% listener supported radio, and now we return you to your host. - So you're telling me Sharon that this photograph labeled Billy Shepard is not actually Billy Shepard?
Oh, we got Paul on the left.
Yeah, that's Paul on the left, but that is not Billy Shepard on the right.
Yeah, he's different.
Paul with the car.
Okay, let's go back.
You continue with your story.
Here's that album, of course.
You recognized right off the bat that the guy in the blue there, the part Sgt.
Pepper's Lonely Hearts Got Bad, was not Paul?
Absolutely not.
I recognized right away that he wasn't Paul because, again, I was a big fan of Paul McCartney, so I knew what Paul McCartney looked like.
And here you got the Madame Tussauds waxwork Paul, and there he is on the ride.
And of course, they were all about the same height.
Ringo's slightly lower, but George and John and Paul were virtually the same height.
And now all of a sudden, he's much taller than the others.
He's taller.
He has very pale skin.
He has a different shaped face, even with the fillers in it.
And his hair is different.
And his eyes are different.
In fact, it looks like he has, if you look at it up close, it looks like he has mascara on, but that's actually just, you know, a little editing of the picture.
Wait a minute, aren't those duplicates off to the left and imitation beetles over to the left of them?
That's the Vienna-Tucson waxworks, John.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I was trying to remember.
Yeah, go ahead, Sharon.
Okay, so there were two important takeaways from the memoirs of Billy Shears that really helped me solve this puzzle.
And the first one, again, was understanding that all six of the last albums were focused primarily on the subject of Paul and what happened to him.
And then the second is, I looked through the areas that it specifically says are nonfiction, and I discovered that in those areas, there is enough information there that allows you to actually solve this puzzle.
It provided the exact background information that you needed to recognize some of the clues.
And that's what had been missing all these years, is that a lot of the clues embedded in these songs weren't recognizable, because we didn't really know a lot about the story.
So it's that part of the book that it claims is nonfiction, and much of which is verifiable, That provides that necessary information.
And for example, on the album covers like this one, there's a lot of occult symbolism.
Well, once you read Billy's story and what a lot of that is about, you can recognize in the clues that the same themes that are on the album covers show up in the clues.
So that was very helpful.
And so after I began to think about that, I started listening to I Am The Walrus.
I hadn't listened in quite a long time.
And so I listened to it and I began to recognize something.
I began to recognize what I thought was a pattern.
And so I started researching a lot of the things that are in I Am The Walrus to see if I could come up with what this was.
And for people who are not familiar with this, the way to really understand I Am The Walrus I'm the Walrus is to recognize that Glass Onion is a follow-up song to I Am the Walrus for people who didn't get the clues in I Am the Walrus, and that's pretty much everybody who wasn't an insider.
And so Glass Onion gives us some very important information to help figure out I Am the Walrus.
The first thing it says is that it indicates that there are clues in previous songs like I Am the Walrus.
And now it's going to come out and give us another clue.
And that clue is that the walrus was Paul.
Well, that's a very important clue, because if the walrus was Paul, since the name of John's walrus song is I Am The Walrus, it tells you that the song is about Paul, because, in effect, it's saying, I am Paul.
If I'm the walrus, then I am Paul.
And so, keeping that in mind, The next thing I noticed in Glass Onion is that Glass Onion keeps talking about a place.
It refers you back to songs, or John refers you back to songs, such as Strawberry Fields Forever, and says, well, here's another place you can go.
And then it refers you back to Fool on the Hill, and it says, well, here's another place you can be.
So in researching through what was in the song Glass Onion, I recognize that there are six distinct clues that tell you about a specific place, and there was no mistaking it because they were very specific.
So, with that information, I went back to I Am The Walrus.
And since we now know that I Am The Walrus is a song about Paul, Then I look down at the line that says, Man, you've been a naughty boy.
You let your face grow long.
Well, that is obviously saying, since this song is about Paul, that Paul now has a longer face, which means he's been replaced.
Which, as we've seen, that's exactly what happened.
He was replaced with someone with a longer face.
And that line is pointing to the fact that he was replaced.
So this song is about Paul, but it's also about his replacement.
And so since Glass Onion was pointing to a very specific place, I said, well, there must be more about that that's in I Am The Walrus.
And after doing a lot of research, I finally found 25 specific clues that point to that exact same place.
And while I don't want to ruin the puzzle for people who want to read the book by telling you the place, I want to say what the meaning of that place is.
That is the place in the story that the Beatles embedded Where the story of Paul's replacement and what happened to him began.
And I Am The Walrus is, in effect, the beginning of the puzzle.
That's true, even though there are clues in Sgt.
Pepper 2.
But I Am The Walrus is the critical start of the story embedded in the Beatles albums.
And again, it's not just in the albums, it's in the movies and the videos and the album covers too.
So since I Am The Walrus is the start, It made sense then to go back to the and it's from Magical Mystery Tour, so it made sense to go back to the Magical Mystery Tour album.
And in the US, there are 11 songs on that album.
And so I began to study them and study the Magical Mystery Tour movie and videos, and I began to realize that.
The entire story of Magical Mystery Tour is an embedded, hidden story about what happened to Paul.
And there is an entire story.
It's not just clues.
There's an entire story told in Magical Mystery Tour about what happened to Paul.
And every song that is on the U.S.
release of the album, which has, again, 11 songs.
Every song tells a very critical part of the story.
And each of the titles of those songs, like Blue Jay Way or Fool on the Hill or Penny Lane, each one is an important clue in and of itself.
So I take five chapters and I analyze all of the clues in these songs.
And then I derived the full story and it is a full story again about Paul's replacement and what happened to him.
And then I looked at the last 4 albums and also went back to Sergeant Peppers and found that all of these have.
Paul is a focus, but none of them tell a complete story like Magical Mystery Tour does.
Instead, what they do is they go back and reinforce the story told in Magical Mystery Tour, and then they add some extra details, fill in some of the gaps.
And so the final chapter in my book is about Abbey Road, which is a very, very interesting album because.
Oh, and first of all, I should point out that before I mentioned Abbey Road, That Glass Onion, unlike I Am The Walrus, doesn't just say that Paul was replaced, it hints that he was, he's dead, because it ends with a dirge.
And it is the first clue, even though it's just a, you know, a hint that Paul is actually dead.
And in the later four albums, it gives all sorts of increasingly explicit clues that Paul is actually dead.
But then Abbey Road tells the story of what happened after he died.
It tells the story of his burial.
And this is the most amazing thing.
It takes you right to the place in the clues.
It takes you right to the place where he's buried.
And so overall, I just wanted to tell you, kind of give you a summary of what this story tells you.
It's a highly detailed story about not only when and where Paul died, the date and time, who was involved in the events leading up to his death, who was involved in his actual death, how they carried it off, how Paul's replacement fit into the story, when the replacement came into the picture, and what they did with his body afterwards, down to how it was transported, where it's buried, and much, much more.
And this story has been hiding in those Beatles albums all of these years.
And I just, I just find it shocking.
That's just fascinating.
I love your diligence.
I think that's extraordinary.
Of course, I'd love to hear the story spelled out, but I take it you're reluctant because you have the book out, and I take it it's just coming out in paperback, too.
Has that previously been Kindle?
Well, it was in paperback.
It's been available on Book Baby, the bookstore at Book Baby.
But it's just now available for pre-order on Amazon and some of the other websites.
And because it's a really interesting puzzle to unravel, because these clues are really, some of them are very obscure, and it's very interesting to see the research that reveals the clues.
Excuse me, I think I just cut you off.
Let me see if I can bring you back up.
There you are.
So I kind of don't want to reveal the whole story yet, because there's the fun in reading the book.
But I will tell you this, that Paul never made it back to England.
And the story that he died in an auto accident in London is a cover story.
That is not the real story.
Really back to England at all.
Although he was not the person that orchestrated all of this, that killed him was not an American, but he was killed in the United States.
Paul died in the United States.
He sure did.
And he's buried here.
And, um, there's so many places that this story takes you to and tells you different parts of the story of what happened to him.
Hmm.
Wow!
It's really shocking, but you can see when you understand the story, what happened to him, you can see how the Beatles were just wracked with, you know, horror over this, and they wanted the public to know somehow, and they were not allowed to tell, because the people controlling them were very powerful, and they weren't about to let this story be told publicly.
So that's how we ended up with this elaborate puzzle, and that's why every single Beals album from 67 to 70 is part of the story.
Hey Sharon, can I ask a question real quick?
Has anybody attempted to get the DNA and compare it to the previous musician and the one that's supposed to be the duplicate or the replacement?
From what I've read, that has not been done.
Now, the real Paul has some living children.
Got it.
So, DNA could be used, but... Well, here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
There was a German girl, who appears to have been Paul's offspring, who brought a suit.
So, I did a DNA test, but it was against the replacement.
It was against Paul.
So, of course, they didn't match.
So, they discounted.
It wasn't against the actual James Paul McCartney, who was her father, I actually have no doubt.
But it was against Paul, so they didn't get a match.
But it's because they didn't realize they were not dealing with the real Paul.
And her name was Bettina Hubertz, I believe it was.
And she was the acknowledged child of James Paul McCartney, and he paid some child support for her.
But when she followed this suit, Uh, to get, you know, payments for the previous years.
She did not realize that she was getting her DNA tested against the replacement.
And it wasn't until she actually saw the file that she came out and said, this man is a fraud.
This is not my father.
So, um, so that was one of the many things that happened over the years, uh, that caused people to question.
Who is this guy?
Even people who didn't recognize that he was a different man.
Hey Sharon, I'm aware of, remember ACDC?
I do.
The lead singer died and they replaced him with somebody who almost sounded, looked, and acted exactly like, it's kind of like they're selling an image to replace it.
So it's not uncommon.
I'm just thinking of that off the top of my head.
That's one I remember.
But it's pretty amazing stuff.
It's not uncommon, but it was shocking that it was done right in front.
I mean, this is, again, the most popular rock group in the in the world, and that they would do it right in front of our face.
And all the clues.
There's always clues going on.
You know, what do you think?
Well, as I understand the story, I mean, after Paul's death, Ringo said, what about the band?
I mean, this is a billion dollar industry.
So they wanted to keep the band going.
They had to figure out how to replace Paul.
You agree it was William Shepard by whom he was replaced?
Yes.
And William Shepard has gone by different stage names over the years, but he's Been currently, and really I guess for a long time, he's been going under the name William Shepard.
Was Paul's death accidental or intentional?
Was he murdered?
He was murdered.
Really?
He was murdered, and that's what made it such a horrible thing that traumatized the rest of the Beatles.
Well, you know, I've done a lot of interviews with Richard Malducci who suggested that the Pope No, the Pope was not involved in the murder.
had said they were more popular than Jesus, and he wanted to punish John, not by killing John, but by killing his best friend Paul.
Do you give any credence to that story?
No, the Pope was not involved in the murder.
He was definitely not involved.
So Maxwell's silver hammer is not about an artifact from the Vatican archives that was used by a MI6 agent by the name of Maxwell to kill Paul when he was in an automobile accident.
He finished him off.
You You don't buy that.
You have a completely different story.
No, but Maxwell's Silver Hammer is an important, is in and of itself an important clue.
And the Maxwell that was the spymaster for MI6 was involved in a very different way.
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
That connects to the current assassination attempt on Trump as a guy named Matthew.
Then they changed it to a Maxwell.
And of course you got the Maxwell Smart TV Series thing.
It's just a quirk.
But I was going to ask if you thought maybe the MI6, MI5 could have been involved because technically he was a knight protected under the realm.
Well, I do believe that MI6 was involved in the murder of Paul McCartney.
Can you elaborate on the motives for the murder?
They wanted to replace Paul.
Why?
And they wanted to replace him They had groomed Paul to be this idol that people just adored, and they were very successful in doing that.
But they had other plans for the Beatles.
They wanted to take over the Beatles and use them to really start a new phase of cultural revolution.
And that's something that I do explain in the book in a good deal of detail.
And so they absolutely Wanted to replace him, and they had planned to do it long before 1966.
And they had groomed this other man to take over the role.
He didn't have the plastic surgery until... Is the one they groomed William Shabbert?
Yes.
Tell me about the...
What they got out of William Shepard, they didn't get out of James Paul.
Tell me about that.
Okay.
Well, James Paul, and again, I'll go into more detail, but I'm just going to give you kind of a light summary because I could carry on forever.
But James Paul was adorable.
He was adorable and he was an easy person to make an idol out of.
In fact, when EMI took over the Beatles and transformed them and promoted them, It was Paul that attracted them, not the other Beatles.
It was Paul because of his looks and because of his charm and because he had this great chemistry with the other Beatles.
An adorable personality.
That's right.
And so he was the person who they could make into a rock star.
I don't think they could have done that to Billy.
Billy came in and he was very musically talented and he had other assets, which I describe in the book.
That made him perfect to take over the role and to do whatever they wanted done.
And again, I go through quite a list of things they wanted done.
Well, I'm fascinated by what they wanted done, because, you know, I mean, I'm a huge fan of the Beatles.
I think their music post-Paul was actually even better than the music before.
And I don't, I have never bought into This being a manipulation of public attitudes or opinions, you're suggesting something very different.
And is this also a Tavistock aspect?
Is there a Tavistock dimension to all this?
That's right.
The Beatles were created by the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London.
And their goal was to use the Beatles to change the culture.
And from the 1962-66 period, 62 is when they first signed them with EMI and then groomed them to do exactly what they did, which was to create a cult around these Beatles, where people just screamed and loved them so much.
And then to use that incredible popularity for other purposes.
So when they brought in Billy at the end of 1966, they used Billy to take the culture in a radically different direction.
And the goal was...
Radical different directions, because I've never seen them.
I've never felt it was true.
So give me your case.
Give me your argument.
Well, the first thing that Billy did after Sergeant Peppers, which was the first album that he was on, the first thing he did was started talking about drugs, and they started promoting a drug culture.
And the reason that Tavistock wanted to do this is because they had long-term plans for eventually Bringing in a global government, and I know, you know, and I've talked about that on related to other issues, but they could not do that with the kind of culture they had.
In the United States in the 1950s, because it was a family oriented culture and the generations were.
bonded together by these values.
And what they eventually wanted to do is get successive younger generations to detach from the values of the older generations.
And they wanted to basically loosen the devotion to family, the devotion to the country.
And all around the world, what they wanted to do was Detach people from their national identity.
That was the long-term goal.
When you have a band whose central message is all you need is love, I have a hard time swallowing all that, Sharon.
I mean, I'm looking forward to reading your book, and I'm certainly going to talk about what you have to say there.
I am so glad.
I'm so glad you brought up All You Need Is Love.
All You Need Is Love is a very deceptive song, because it sounds like it's really a very nice loving song, which it's not about.
All You Need Is Love is about Aleister Crowley's philosophy, satanic philosophy.
And you're familiar, I believe, with Aleister Crowley.
Right.
A whole bunch of bad stuff.
That's right.
And he was a, um, his philosophy was do what they'll wilst.
Uh, and so a corollary to his philosophy was love is what it's all about.
But love is under will your personal will.
And what you really want to do.
So basically, you can do whatever you want to do.
And while love is important, and it's the next most important thing, it's a subsidiary to your will, it has to be subordinated to it.
And so when you learn about how what that song all you need is love is about, and this book goes into that in detail.
So You will realize that that is not a sweet song.
I'm sorry?
SDR.
Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll.
But didn't they sing the song, Timothy Leary's Dead?
I don't... I don't know the Beatles.
They were a follower, so I was just kind of curious because... Well, there's Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is obviously about LSD.
Yeah.
It's about LSD and Paul McCartney or the Sir Paul McCartney that who is William Shepard.
He said later in the 90s when interviewed that the whole Sergeant Peppers album is a drug album and that one of the things they wanted to do was to introduce drugs into the country.
And one of the ways that he helped do that was he was on the board of directors of the Monterey Pop Festival that happened in 1967.
And during that festival, he and John Phillips of the Mamas and Papas and some other key people worked with the government, worked with the CIA and related people to distribute drugs.
And this was really the people he was working with were really part of the MKUltra task force.
You know, the mind control task force.
And so they agreed to, during that festival, not allow anyone to get arrested or harmed in any way for taking drugs.
And so that was highly promoted.
And that is one of the beginnings of the change after Biopaw.
And as you know from the Beatles and how different everything was, The culture just really, really changed rather rapidly.
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Here are some of the obvious differences.
Paul and Jane Asher were about the same height.
They were engaged.
And there's fall with Jane.
The Ashers obviously were induced to go along with the fraud, with the deception, with the replacement.
Here are these two Italian forensic scientists who set out to disprove the hypothesis.
They thought they could prove they were the same person, and they wound up discovering that it was true.
That fall had bad teeth and a narrow palate on the right, but Paul had bad teeth and a narrow palate on the right, but Faul had good teeth and a normal palate.
I mean, really quite stunning.
And here you see differences in the face and the sort of thing we've been talking about.
This appears to be the very first photo of Faul we have joining the Beatles outside EMI on November 24, 1966.
Sharon, would you like to comment on that?
That is.
That was outside EMI Studios, and if you see the full interview, it doesn't even look like Paul.
I mean, it kind of looks like Paul in this particular there.
That's when they have the likeness face, and you can see that that is clearly not Paul McCartney.
Yes.
And may I make a couple of other points?
Of course.
About what we had talked about, because you brought up the song All You Need Is Love, and while I was telling you, generally, What was true about Alistair Crowley?
I would like to mention that at that moment, I couldn't think of the exact words, but Alistair Crowley said his basic tenet was do what thou wilst is the whole of the law.
And then the corollary is love is the law love under will.
So it has the meaning that I said, but I just wanted to get that correct.
But, uh, It's interesting that you brought that up, because when you read about the solution to the puzzle and the unraveling of all these clues, you will understand all of the lyrics to the Beatles songs from that 67 to 70 period, because it explains everything.
Sure, I know a number of students who've been pursuing this, but I find what you're telling us utterly fascinating.
I mean, I'm telling you, I'm eager to read your book.
John, your thoughts?
Oh, I was just going to ask Sharon, was it Crowley supposedly either bisexual or homosexual in his activities?
Because you have to, you have to throw it out there because that's what he's saying.
Do thou wilst or do what you want type of thing.
He was bisexual.
Okay.
Sure was.
And I also wanted to point out that in understanding the Beatles puzzle, you will also understand what happened to Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones.
Because they are connected.
And that is another sad story.
Even though he died two months after all.
Is this related to Laurel Canyon?
It is.
The whole Beatles story is related to Laurel Canyon.
And if you've read the Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, this is the precursor.
This tells you the British origins of what was going on in Laurel Canyon.
In the United States.
Well, doesn't that connect also to the Sharon Tate, LaBianca murders?
It does.
It does.
With the Manson crowd.
Same time frame.
With the Manson crowd.
68, 69.
I think 69.
That's right, 69.
I mean, the Beatles obviously were not involved in that, but if you learn about the story of the Beatles and of the Rolling Stones, some of the same people behind the scenes are also involved in the Sharon Tate murder.
Which gets into satanism and satanic stuff.
That's right.
That's right.
I mean, it is a really shocking story, but that does not mean that the Beatles were really satanist or anything.
The Beatles were being used.
They were being manipulated.
Well, the secret messages in the White Album or whatever, and you supposedly had to play the album in reverse.
That's the thing that the Mansons were doing also.
Right, right.
And that started with Aleister Crowley.
He's the one.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, you go ahead.
Oh, okay.
So, Alistair Crowley played phonorecords backwards, and he taught his students to read backwards because... It's like reverse speech almost, right?
That's right, that's right.
And it was from Alistair Crowley that the Beatles got the idea to put those...
I'm sure you'd agree, Sharon.
You're not going to influence culture by having messages you can only hear if you play a record backwards.
I mean, that's just too obscure.
That's not going to do it.
So if the Beatles are supposed to be being used to alter the direction of culture, it's going to have to be much more overt.
It's going to have to be much more I mean, there may be some limital aspects to it, but tell me more about the direction.
You're saying more drugs, less family, more sex drugs, rock and roll, more pre-love.
That is precisely it.
Go ahead.
Yeah, that is precisely it.
Because the original Beatles up until through 66 or through the end of summer 66, you know, they were just cute mock tops.
Uh, fun.
They were all about having fun, and they were irreverent, and they had humor.
But after that, the Beatles were used to promote a culture of drugs, sex, and rock and roll.
And increasingly, it was to separate cult- I'm sorry, what was that?
I was just going to say, I never felt that way about them.
You know, I never felt up to encourage sex drugs or rock and roll, but maybe I was just a little older to be a fact.
Well, and my younger siblings who were so enthusiastic about the Beatles initially, it took me a long time to catch up.
Similarly with Queen.
Everyone had been ecstatic about Queen, and my wife and I, we're about 10 years after the big Queen rush when we discovered how sensational was Queen, you know?
But there are so many mysteries hidden in these rock groups.
But let me just say, bringing up Queen, Similar claims we made about other rock groups.
I mean, the Rolling Stones, thank God they're explicitly sexual.
You know, at one of their concerts, they had all these obscene images.
Right.
I mean, you know, I would say if I thought there were a group that was out to promote sex, drugs, and rock and roll, it was not the Beatles.
It was the Stones.
Right, right.
And the Stones were part of Tavistock's project involving the Beatles.
And the Beatles were supposed to be the good boys of rock, whereas the Stones were supposed to be the evil, devil-worshipping bad boys.
And not only that, but, you know, their response album to Sgt.
Pepper's was called their Satanic Majesty's Request.
They were openly satanic.
Unlike the Beatles.
John, go ahead.
Oh yeah, I was just sending you a little message about the comment.
Remember the old saying, turn on, tune in, drop out.
Right, right.
Timothy Leary thing.
And Timothy Leary's book was the basis for John's song that's at the end of the Revolver album.
Everything, all of a sudden I can't remember it.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
You know that song is?
It's the last one on the Revolver album.
Suddenly it's escaping me.
Tamara never knows.
That's what it does.
And so the Tibetan Book of the Dead was the main inspiration, but Timothy Leary's book was also inspiring.
Yeah, I studied that stuff, too, in Japan, was Buddhism.
And the Book of the Dead is very interesting, especially Tibetan.
A lot of history and connections with the occult.
Not necessarily the bad occult, but Jesus supposedly went to Lhasa, Tibet.
They knew him as Issa and all these other things.
This is during a time frame, I guess, that the Beatles were getting into a real spiritual search, and were hanging out with Ravi Shankar.
And those guys?
Remember those guys?
I sure do.
Northern India, Nepal, Lhasa.
And they're doing all the Ravi Shankar music and things like that.
So that kind of fits in.
Well, there are many mysteries wrapped in these rock and roll groups.
And I think that for people who haven't read it, the Laurel Canyon book, Weird Scenes Within the Canyon, is a great place to get started understanding Oh, you know what?
I was going to interject when you brought up the thing about the acid that they were passing around.
The CIA did that intentionally.
I'm sorry, what did they just do recently with COVID?
Yeah.
The same thing.
That's right.
They could do a massive test on as many humans as they want, see what the results are, good or bad, and they didn't have to go hurt any mice or rhesus monkeys this week.
So, yeah, it's the same patterns.
Beans.
Say again, Jim?
Just kill a lot of human beings.
Yeah.
Kill the people.
Yeah.
You're talking about Jim Morrison, too, The Doors, all that.
And, of course, his father was an admiral.
That's correct.
He was a Navy brat.
We hate that term.
Fathers and sons can be so obscure and strained and disconnected.
I never really supposed there was necessarily anything to it.
I mean, I like The Doors.
Some of their songs, I think, are just terrific.
Riders on the storm, you know.
I like, people are strange when you're a stranger.
Oh yeah.
When really hit home.
You know, those people in Japan, when I was over there, military people, I'm in the same profile as Morrison in the fact that my dad was military 30 years and during the time I was in Japan, The Japanese and the military dependents, Asian-American mix and others, they really got into that stuff.
The Beatles was the hottest thing in 67 through 70, so if they said to do things, they would almost imitate it.
They would just be all over it.
Japanese are one of the biggest imitators as well.
They're also ahead of us in technology by five years.
You know, they'll develop a special three-dimensional watch with a hologram thing, and the American, we won't get it for five years.
But they'll copy it, and if they got a guy who even looks like Ringo, George, Paul, or John, they'll go out and do a whole karaoke just to do the thing.
So, they're into that.
They're so into that stuff, and they could sing Almost to the exact inflection, and they don't speak that much English.
That's weird.
They can sing it, but they can't speak English.
Yes.
John, which group?
Which nationality?
Japanese.
Okay, Sharon, go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
We'll look at John and Oko.
Oh, no.
That was a direct connection right there.
That's like pulling in a whole country right there.
Do you have thoughts about Yoko, Sharon?
Yes, I do.
Yoko Ono was a person from a highly connected political family in Japan, and in one of the footnotes I talk about her connections, and she was brought in after Paul was killed to help control John.
Wow.
And it's very unfortunate, but one of the ways that John was controlled, because he was of course devastated And one of the ways he was controlled was with heroin.
And you know, you can see in any images of the real John, in any interview with the real John, that he has changed dramatically.
Well, it's because they addicted him to heroin intentionally.
And it's just a, that's a horrible story.
It's a very poignant story.
And it's one I definitely touch on in the book.
Yeah, I was going to ask if you pursued that there.
Paul, you're saying basically was killed in order to be replaced.
It wasn't that he died and they had to find a replacement.
His death was...
A necessary condition for moving forward.
Do they already have that Billy Shears in mind?
I mean, would they already be the guy?
Yes, he was even involved with the Beatles.
Now, there's evidence that he was there, but exactly what he was doing.
As a session musician?
As a session musician.
He had become a session musician in the 50s.
And of course, again, he was, as John pointed out, he was known for his ability to imitate other people's voices, but he was also very versatile on and he could play many, many instruments.
And so it was that great.
I think the guy's a musical genius.
I think he's a musical genius.
And I love the stuff the Beatles did post-Paul.
I mean, you know, I was a huge fan of Paul, but a lot of it was more bubblegum music, you know, real pop stuff, pretty shallow and superficial.
But beginning with Sgt.
Pepper, they started going in whole new directions.
Right.
And when you read this book, you are going to have a whole different take on all of those songs that came from Sgt.
Pepper's on.
I'm very keen to read it, Sharon.
Well, thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to talk about it.
Oh, yeah.
I can't recall exactly how we discovered it, but I think you wrote me and talked about this, and I just thought it was such a great idea to do a show on, and I'm fascinated.
It's typical of scientific reasoning, right?
You got a puzzling situation, Paul Fall, what's going on here?
What explains it?
You got multiple stories.
You got the automobile accident story.
You got Maxwell Hammer story.
Now you're offering a third.
Then how does the evidence and the hypotheses adapt to one another if you assume The accident story, then.
What probability does it confer on the evidence, or the Maxwell hammer, or now your variation?
I'm really intrigued, because it looks to me like you may have an hypothesis that can explain more of the details and the alternatives.
I mean, from a point of view of scientific reasoning, I find this just fascinating.
Fascinating.
Really, I do.
Hey, I like it, and I've got a serious background on these things, you know.
There's a lot of stuff behind that book.
Hey, can you send me a privately signed book?
How do you react to what Sharon is sketching?
Incompletely purposefully, but tell us, what's your take on her story, her version of the Beatles?
I'm sorry, I missed that.
I was asking John for his take on your version, your theory.
Oh, I'm impressed.
You know, normally I watch the shows and what people come up with and things like that.
And I have a different background, you know, in law enforcement and stuff like that.
So we deal with imposters and duplicates.
And even Jimmy Carter had a guy that was out there that looked like Jimmy Carter, but I knew it wasn't him.
But they played it up and all that.
I mean, the history goes back to even Uncle Adolf in Germany.
So people think, oh, he still died at the bunker.
No.
But the information you've brought out, I've already heard some of this stuff.
That's why we're having a really good interview here.
Is because it mixes with all these details.
And I think you've done an outstanding job.
I would like to get that promoted as well.
That's a really good book.
So, I hope the other people get it.
Because what inspired you to look at other cases of body doubles and the like?
Oh, you know.
Great, including a body double during international debates with Bernie Sanders and even Donald Trump.
That wasn't Hillary.
It was a younger, thinner, healthier, far more attractive version.
And of course we got this Biden double who appears to have just died en route to Las Vegas.
Now he's replaced by a guy four inches taller.
Have you noticed that?
Have you seen some of the video where he's walking or he's just striding and there he is.
He looks like a basketball player for crying out loud.
Yes, he does.
Totally active.
Little baby steps with a completely upright back, which appears to be a symptom of Parkinson's.
This is a totally different dude.
Oh, you remember when Obama was president?
Say again?
Remember when Obama was president, they had a guy, a famous imitator, he was a white guy, dyed his hair and face, was colored and all that.
He had the mannerisms and the speech patterns down excellently and was even on stage with him.
He later died several years later after that, which is kind of suspicious.
But they do have people out there to do that.
Maybe Obama didn't like this guy imitating him.
I think this is a very nasty piece of work, this Obama.
Did you pick up how this Archbishop, you know, in the wake of the drag parody of The Last Supper, called out Macron's wife as a traitor?
Oh, yeah.
Biden called out Michelle Obama as a muscular man wearing a wig.
Did you pick up on that, Jared?
Well, I didn't actually watch that live.
I've been seeing the pictures of it later, and it was just so disgusting that I didn't, at the time, pay a lot of attention.
Although, I've gotten interested now, so I may have to go back and look at the details.
Have you ever taken a good look at Michelle and her history?
I've done a lot on this.
Yes, I have.
And I can understand why people think that Michelle may be Michael, because, I mean, she clearly has some characteristics, but... Well, she is including a package most women don't have, Sharon!
This is a man with breast implants and a huge shaving bill!
I mean, it's ridiculous!
So, I don't know.
There are an awful lot of doubles out there.
And they're very useful when being directed by... I got that from a Secret Service source when I was talking to a buddy of mine.
He was back in D.C.
at the same time frame I was, and he's in Florida.
That's all I'll say about that.
He says, John, did you know this thing about Michelle?
And I said, no, what?
What are you going to tell me now?
It's real.
You mean it's been confirmed?
Yeah, somebody saw the package.
So I go, OK, well, that's a Secret Service source, so I'll have to let it ride, right?
It's just amazing the things that are put in front of us and that we're just supposed to accept.
I mean, they have such contempt for us.
They're pushing and pushing and pushing the propaganda, the Alistair Crowley stuff, and they're really pushing it.
I think it is now tied with Crowley-type attitudes about transgender and bisexuality and multisexuality and all this, teaching kids about masturbation when they're in their third grade and stuff.
I mean, it's just repulsive to me, utterly repulsive.
Yeah.
Clearly, the point is to try to divide us and destroy the culture and destroy our national identity.
So they can form their global government.
It's a Marxist cultural revolution, cultural Marxism.
I agree completely.
Yes.
And the cultural revolution that I was talking about with the Beatles was Marxist, but it was the early stages.
There were many stages.
And the idea was they wanted control of the younger and younger generations by creating these rock idols.
And they succeeded.
So far.
What do you think is the enduring message of your book?
Why is this an important book and that we ought to read it?
I mean, I'm eager to read it, frankly, but just comment on your book.
What's its importance?
Well, of course, the first thing is you should never take anything at face value.
Not the government, not your entertainment personalities.
It is all controlled, and it is all dictated, and it is all a form of propaganda.
And some of the propaganda is a lot of fun.
Like, Beatlemania was just a lot of fun, and I remember those days fondly.
But when you look under the cover of so many of these things, we are just dealing with psychological operations over and over, just like COVID was a psychological operation.
Just like so many other things, like the Kennedy assassination.
And so this is just telling in more explicit form the story of the Beatles psychological operation and what they're willing to do to people.
They were willing to destroy Paul.
They were willing to destroy John and.
You know, they came close to destroying George, but he had other resources to help out.
And Ringo had not been the long term friend of of Paul and John and George.
He came in the story in 1962, but no doubt he was devastated too.
And one of the things interesting that you learn about the songs is that Ringo's song, Don't Pass Me By, and George's song, Blue Jay Way, they are actually songs about the very same event connected to Paul's situation, what happened to him.
And it is a very terrifying, tragic event.
And that's one of the things I expose.
But there are just tons of fascinating stories.
And I think when you read All about the Beatles puzzle that they felt that they had to implant because they couldn't say any of this, you know, out in the open.
It really is going to make you question just everything in the culture.
And I think it's a great thing.
John, give us your thoughts overall.
What's your impression of all of the above?
Oh, I've already got all these connections already from my background and stuff.
And I appreciate Sharon coming on today, because it's a really worthwhile project.
And I think she helps explain a lot of other things that are going on in our government and in the world, especially with these Alistair Crowley type profiles.
And the stuff with the Intel agencies.
And once you start looking at it, she's helping to explain a lot of interesting gaps that can be brought in together and finally solidify everything.
So it looks pretty good.
I'm impressed with it.
I like it.
Well, thank you, John.
I'm really glad that you were on the show today, too, because I enjoyed talking to you.
Yeah, I'm glad.
I think this all worked really, really well.
And they're clearly not the same guy.
And look at this, how to obscure their images.
And they began wearing all the mustaches and let their hair grow long.
You can see on Ed Sullivan how they're all about the same height, except for Ringo being slightly shorter.
And there you have a funeral.
A funeral for a left hand bass player.
There it is right in the foreground.
How can we miss?
There are two important messages that the cover of the Sergeant Peppers album is saying.
It's giving first of all on the front.
It's saying that Paul is dead.
There he is with the left.
It's a funeral gathering.
There's a left handed guitar.
But it's also announcing on the back that William or Billy has taken over the group.
And that's why on the back of the cover You see, Billy's back, but with the other three Beatles, he's facing the other three Beatles.
He's become the leader of the band.
Isn't that Alistair Crowley?
I'm sorry?
Isn't that Alistair Crowley up in the corner?
Yes, he is there.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, thank you.
Absolutely sensational.
Very, very pleased with the show today.
Meanwhile, I recommend checking out Sharon Clark.
Hi, Sam.
Everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
Man!
That is absolutely right.
Thank you so much, Jim, and thank you, John.
Thanks, Sharon.
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