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July 17, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (17 July 2024) with Victor-Hugo and Russ Winter
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This is Jim Petzer, your host on The Raw Deal, where I expect to be joined shortly by Victor Hugo, who's in the Republic of Georgia, by Mike Sparks, who's a Extensive background with military experience and potentially, hopefully, by Russ Baker, who is a profound skeptic.
We want to talk a lot about what's gone on with this shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, which I am personally convinced was indeed a Legitimate attempt to assassinate Trump, where the evidence simply grows and grows and grows.
Victor Hugo was here, it appeared.
Let me see if I can bring him in.
There we go, my friend.
How are you?
Good, good.
I'm just making sure that the audio works here.
Victor, let's start off with your take about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
I have a lot of views about it.
I've done multiple shows about it.
You may very well have yourself.
It appears to me it had to have been a deliberate effort to hang out Trump, but it was done in an amateurish fashion.
They swapped out the regular Secret Service detail, for example.
They put in a bunch of incompetence, including a woman who was in charge from a Pittsburgh office that had virtually no experience.
They knew this shooter was there.
He was allowed to wander through with a ladder and an AR-15 up on a roof.
Spectators were calling out, but nothing was done.
The sniper on the roof you can see behind Trump.
had him in his sights and asked for permission, but was not granted permission until after the shooting began, which fits my take because he was the patsy.
You don't want to take out the patsy and after shooting has begun.
Forensic analysis, forensic analysis of acoustics, The acoustic analysis, I think there were three weapons that were involved.
The first, which I take to have been the Patsy with firing three shots.
The second, the real sniper, five.
And then one from the encounter sniper who took him out.
And I'm delighted Russ Winter is here.
Let me make sure I've got him.
Russ, yes, join.
Plus we have Merrick Garland declaring right off the bat that there was only one shooter.
That is way premature if it had been a real shooting.
The FBI doesn't want to come anywhere near it.
When you look at the way the security was set up, the parameter, it was much too small for the area since there were only so many Buildings in the area, they should have been covering them all.
If you look at a diagram of security, there's a cutoff.
It's like a slice of the pie where these buildings were specifically located, indicating for a certee.
They were excluded deliberately.
This is like in Dallas when the sheriff who ran Dallas County with an iron hand declared that his security ended at Houston and Maine.
When they turned onto Elm Street into the kill zone.
I mean, how ridiculous and outrageous is that?
Just as, well, all day, two shots were being reported.
A shot to the throat and a shot to the right temple on JFK.
Widely reported.
I mean, in great detail.
Nevertheless, that evening, the Secret Service and FBI concluded there had been three shots only from above and behind.
And on NBC, Scott McGee, who is nobody's fool, says, this is incongruous.
How can the man have been shot from behind?
I think that's a totally legitimate question.
Russ, I hope you can turn on your video because we can't see you as yet.
Go ahead, Victor Hugo.
I've tried a couple times.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
So that'll work, Russ.
If we can't see you, that's okay.
We can hear you.
I'm going to ask Victor Hugo for his take on Butler first and then yours.
Victor.
Okay.
Again, what you just said, And what nobody else is saying, it leads always back to the Jewish problem that we have.
You've got Merrick Garland, who's a Jew.
You've got Mayorkas, who's a Jew, who's the one who set up the Secret Service and had it all with the diversity, equity and inclusivity.
And people have this myopic view in the United States.
One of the things that I noticed, I just did a breakdown of this Trump PSYOP with Max Segan.
And in the comments section, the people are so divided and everybody thinks that they know everything about what happened.
When this incident is still relatively new and the facts are still coming out, the people are infighting, which is exactly what they, and when I say they, I mean the Jews, again, because it goes back to the sniper or the alleged attacker was Jewish.
The sniper who was supposed to take out the attacker was also wearing a Kabbalah wristband, which is a Jewish thing.
And when you follow the money, who financed this whole thing?
Again, you want to call them the globalists?
You want to call them the deep state?
Who prints out the money out of nothing?
Somebody had to pay for this People don't understand the big picture.
The big picture is they want to destroy the United States.
And the oldest tactic is divide and conquer.
So now they've even got the MAGA people fighting because you've got people who are saying, oh my God, it was a miracle.
He was saved because he turned his head at the last minute.
And then you've got other people who are rightfully so saying this was a setup anyway you want to slice it all of a sudden what do you want to believe that the fake news media is telling you the truth after four years of them telling you to take the bioweapon disguised as vaccine that it's safe and effective?
After telling you that the election was the safest election and the purest election in history, that Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
What they're distracting people from is the fact that Tara Reade just left Russia and arrived in the United States.
She's getting ready to file sexual assault charges on Joe Biden.
The fake news media in the United States is not covering that.
Another thing that the fake news media isn't covering Is that recently in the Middle East, they've released several reports about the attack on September 11, 2001, not being carried out by the Muslims, but rather being carried out by the Israelis.
What's interesting is these articles were just recently taken to incite any kind of violence against Muslims.
Realize, let me ask you this, Jim and Russ, what if the attacker was not a Jew, What if the attacker was a Muslim?
And what if the sniper that didn't take down the attacker was a Muslim as well?
What if instead of him wearing a Kabbalah string, he was wearing some kind of a Muslim thing around his neck?
You're talking about the sniper was a Jew?
Well, the killer who...
It was a bystander.
It was a fire chief was killed and two others were injured.
In some of the footage you can see them falling because they've been hit.
Let me go to Russ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was a bystander.
It was a fire chief was killed and two others were injured.
In some of the footage, you can see them falling because they've been hit.
Let me go to Russ.
Yeah, I wasn't clear.
Yeah, I didn't know anything.
I mean, the information on the shooter, the alleged shooter, he's a total gray man, so I don't know where you're coming up with the fact that he was a Jew.
Maybe he was, but I haven't seen anything like that.
By the way, Russell, if you want, I will share the screen with you and show you what I...
gotten here.
I've got the evidence.
One of the things I just want to point out, and I'm not making difficulty for you, Russell, but if you read the comments of our last interaction, a lot of the viewers were saying that you were speaking, but you didn't have the facts straight.
So for example, right now you're saying that because you didn't know that the shooter was a Jew, I'm I'll show you with the Zoom.
Yeah, I'm interested.
I mean... Facts are facts.
Put it up there.
Yeah, we want to make sure that the people that are watching this show feel comfortable with the people on this panel as having their facts straight so that they don't call us out on it.
Victor!
Yeah?
I've not heard this guy being a Jew.
I saw he was in a black...
Yeah, I've got that too.
Absolutely.
He's got a 66 on his shirt.
He's supposed to be a registered Republican.
That's obviously a ruse.
He is actually contributing to Antifa, but he seems to be a weakling.
This looks like an MK ultra patsy.
And the idea was to walk up there, climb up on the roof and everyone knew it and nevertheless did nothing about it.
Russ, I want your take, Russ. - Well, I thought we were gonna be looking a little bit at the incident.
You covered some of it in your previous show, and you guys did focus on the latter, which I think is really critical to understanding this operation.
You go ahead and review whatever you want about the shooting, Ross.
I mean, just.
The ladder story makes no sense at all because you've got a, you've got a ladder that the guy just climbed up and there's, you notice there's four trees.
I don't know if you have the images of those.
Yeah, I can pull up some stuff here momentarily.
Maybe if you share screen I can show you this.
Yeah, okay.
Let me go back to Russell to share screen.
But if we can't get you yourself on there, my friend, how are we going to be able to share screen, right?
I don't know.
I keep hitting the start video button and it just doesn't work.
Oh, there we go.
It all of a sudden popped on.
Hey, man.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
I'm delighted.
Great to see you.
OK, let me see.
I want to let you share a screen.
OK, I've got to reclaim host.
There we go.
There we go.
I had given it.
I'm making you host, Russ.
Go right ahead now.
You got it.
Okay, let's see if I can find this.
All right, here it is right here.
Entire screen.
Share. - I mean, there's so many absurdities of this case.
I mean, it was a real clown show.
And of course, the woman who's in charge of Secret Service, who herself appears to be a diversity hire, said that they didn't take out the sniper because it was too dangerous.
How stupid is that?
Russ, lay it on us.
Okay, well, apparently I can't share the screen as usual, but at any rate, The images really caught my eyes.
If you let me share the screen, I'll get you guys the images that you're looking for.
I've got them all set up.
I'm looking at the shooting platform and the building and it shows like four trees in front of a kind of a small little alley or passageway.
Okay, you keep talking while we share the screen.
Go right ahead, Ross.
So there's the, you know, the first question I kind of ask is why the hell are four, why the hell are four trees planted right in front of the entrance to the area that he would have used to access this 20-foot ladder?
So I think the number one question that people should be asking on this case is who put the ladder there?
How did he get a ladder in that location, a 20-foot ladder?
He's driving like a sedan.
You know, he didn't have a truck.
So all of a sudden he appears on the scene in a building that was supposed to be secure and manages to enter that little passageway that you can see on the images and climbs up a ladder and accesses the roof.
Impossible.
Victor, I can pull up some images if you're having trouble finding yours.
Well, here's the Kabbalah string on the guy who had the shooter In his sights for three minutes and didn't do anything.
So a lot of people noticed this Kabbalah string.
I don't know how familiar you are.
The counter sniper had the Kabbalah string.
So the guy who was supposedly given the order not to shoot and who had the guy in his scope for almost three minutes happened to be involved with the Kabbalah, which is Jewish.
So we've got that, and then we've also got the actual shooter who was also a Jew.
So there's just a lot of things here that are kind of suspicious.
Yeah, I mean, if you've got some facts on that, I'd definitely like to see it, because I haven't come across that at all.
Okay, you know what?
what let me let me go to the I'll show you on my I just uploaded them on my channel here sure so I'll show you on bitch shoot so Victor Hugo I just did the podcast with moxie max Egan and we were breaking it all down and And what is Max Egan's take?
Well, he was saying the same thing I was, that we were waiting to see what exactly the news was before we gave an opinion on it.
And really, the news of that day was coming out so many different ways.
Let me see what we got here.
Okay.
Yeah, if you can't pull him up, I can pull him up, so, you know.
Okay, so you see right here, this one?
Fake news media ignores fact that every aspect of Trump assassination was Jewish.
And I'm going to show you the picture here.
Yeah, believe me, I look for that.
I'm not afraid of looking for that.
Thomas Matthew Brooks family embraces Scottish Jewish ethnicity.
Fifteen minutes, right?
Go ahead and play it.
Just play it.
Well, you know what?
Let me send it to you, Jim, because the thing is, my speakers are not that good right now, so you'd have to play it.
But the viewers can watch it if they want.
The thing is, what if the shooter and the sniper were Muslim?
Would the news coverage be the same?
And that's the question that needs to be asked.
I mean, clearly this guy... I want you to try to play it.
Just go ahead and try to play it.
It's just that my speakers aren't working, Jim.
That's why I'm saying.
Otherwise, I would.
But the other thing is a lot of people don't realize the New World Order was pledged to the Jews.
And so this is part of their plan to divide and conquer and to make sure that everybody is fighting each other.
There's only one enemy.
And when you fight each other, you make it stronger.
Victor, nobody's fighting over this.
There's been tremendous unification in the Republican side.
The swing states are all going red.
Is CNN predicting a landslide?
There's nothing that is divisive about this except those who want to suggest it was a staged event rather than a real but amateurish, very clumsy attempt, which I'm convinced is the case.
Well, I'm not convinced about that.
I think there's three ways that you could see it.
One, that it was a legitimate guy who just happened to be able to get past the security and everything, which is supposed to be the best in the world.
And meanwhile, he's able to get up on a ladder and everything.
That's like the most improbable scenario, I think.
Then there's the one that you're saying, that it was a clumsy false flag operation And then there's the one that these people were involved in it, that it was a U.S.
government trying to take out President Trump.
Then there's also the case where they're trying to get rid of Biden by trying to assassinate Trump.
And they want, actually, Trump to be in there because Trump is a Zionist.
And if you see, Trump is being lauded by the Jewish community.
Basically, the Jews have a win-win situation here.
If they take Biden in, he's been doing everything to help the Jews create that new Jerusalem in the Ukraine by laundering money through Zelensky and having the military-industrial complex have all their old military equipment sent to the Ukraine to fight Russia.
And if Trump gets in, he's already said that he wants Bibi Netanyahu to finish getting Gaza so that Jared Kushner can have good real estate.
He just wants to be done quicker.
We got it.
Here's footage.
This one starts going down, and this one goes back up.
These guys aren't professional.
Victor, I'm showing this, alright?
- You wanna really see something that said, take a look at what happened.
- This one starts going down, and this one goes back.
- What the fuck?
- These guys aren't professional.
- Victor, I'm showing this, all right?
Just hold on a second.
Take another fuck, you can hear that.
- And you know, that's a little bit old, that chart, that chart's a couple of months old, and if you wanna really see something that said, take a look at what happened.
There are parties who actually get killed.
Here's a sniper up on the roof, where he was being... This is what I'm talking about, Russ.
Look at this.
That's the alleged security circumference.
Look at that.
Right.
And who helped him get up on the roof?
Clearly, he had to have a ladder.
I don't really know.
I only have theories about who helped him up on the roof.
You know, I'm not going down too many rabbit holes there, but it's clearly somebody dropped the security and literally brought in a ladder for him, because I don't think he brought it in himself, and allowed him to crawl up on the roof.
Completely concealed, kind of behind those four trees that maybe had been planted there three weeks ago.
So yeah, that's how I see that part of it.
And with an AR-15, which is the wrong type of weapon for this event, it's got a magazine that hangs down so you can't reduce your silhouette.
You need maybe even a single shot or bolt action.
In some ways, it doesn't really look like a serious assassination attempt.
What do you think of that?
Well, it's so amateurish, Russ.
I mean, I'm personally open to that, but the fact is that evidence keeps mounting.
Look, if this was a phony attempt and Trump were in on it, the Biden people ought to be all over it to expose it.
What could be more damaging to Trump's reputation and standing than he would participate in a phony shooting?
And yet Merrick Garland declared already, right after the event, there was only one shooter, when the acoustic evidence shows there were actually two, and the FBI doesn't want to go anywhere near it.
But they didn't kill him.
That's the thing.
That's what kind of gets me.
If he had been killed, then I would have gone, wow, yeah, that was a major conspiracy.
But he was, they failed to kill him.
The wound itself is kind of ridiculous because you got, if you look, if you, the ear is very vascular.
I don't know.
I probably we've all been cut in the ear before shaving or something like that.
Just bleeds like, like heck.
and you know you've got a cheekbone there in front you know it's it's called a zycomatic bone a high cheekbone you've got a if you feel your ear if your ear is tucked in kind of like trump is you know if you don't have like a mickey ear There's bones protruding all along the cheek and the templar bone behind the ear, and I think it would be very, very difficult to miss that.
I mean, he would at least graze it, so he should have some kind of like a cheekbone injury, and he should have really been rattled.
Not necessarily a fatal shot, but he would have been Creased in front of that ear and behind the ear, there would just be blood everywhere.
So the blood, to me, the injury just doesn't fit the bullet of an AR-15.
Well, it was not an AR-15.
No, no, no.
This appears to be a .22.
Not an AR-15.
That was just... Okay, so you think it was a second weapon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, the forensic analysis.
I've already got that here.
Regardless of the bullet, I don't think that they... I just don't see how you could have an injury like that.
Just straight in, missing cheekbone, going through the ear, and missing the temporal lobe.
There's forensic analysis showing that we're too—here you go.
There are two different reports.
Audio Forensics suggests it's made of three weapons.
That's a comment from CNN.
First three shots consistent with alleged weapon A, that would be this guy on the roof.
The next five, alleged weapon B, that is a guy somewhere in the vicinity further back, I suspect.
The final weapon C, that's going to be the sniper taking out A. So, and here's another from TASS making a similar report about it.
Well, it's amazing they all missed him.
It didn't hit him.
Well, it did get one hit, and I do think if he hadn't turned his head... Now, here's a guy who's a sniper talking about what happened here.
I personally find what he's saying rather convincing, but let me see if I can find what you want more on the location.
Oh, by the way, that one picture there shows the trees right there.
Back up.
Back up.
Yeah.
Not this one.
Not this one.
Which one, Russ?
This one?
No.
Next one.
That's okay.
Anyway, it showed the trees, the four trees right in front of it.
Oh, here.
Is this the one with the trees?
Yeah, that's the trees.
Those are cypress trees, I think.
Yeah, they're huge.
That's the access to the roof.
Right behind there is the ladder.
How could they not have checked in there?
You know, how can somebody not just look behind those trees at this little entryway to the ladder?
And it's impossible.
So yeah, either they drop the guard and let the guy in there, and that part is very, very clear to me.
Yeah, yeah.
It was allowed to happen, there's no question about it.
I mean, that's the very theme.
Patrick J. Maché, I mean, here's a nice satiric from the Babylon beat Trump and died for inciting an assassination attempt.
I mean, who's benefited from this?
You know, now that Trump can do the victimization stance.
No, no, no, Russ.
You've got to assume who would have benefited had it been a success.
That's right.
It would be completely the opposite.
Exactly.
Go ahead, Russ Winter.
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Just look at this security bubble.
This is absurd.
The building with the sniper, this is only 150 yards away and it's not included.
It should have been twice as large and encompass all these buildings.
I mean, this is a farce.
Complete setup, inside job.
I take it to have been a real attempt to kill Trump.
Go ahead.
Okay, so we got the fact that he was led on the roof.
Intentionally, I think you and I probably agree on that.
Oh yeah, sure.
But if it was a staged event, assuming it is a staged event, and I tend to be leaning that way to be honest with you, it's actually a brilliant move on the part of Trump because now they've got these security Departments on the run.
They have a Secret Service on the run.
They have, you know, they can basically dismantle, get into power now and dismantle these agencies based upon their incompetence alone.
Just on their incompetence alone because nobody's going to argue against their incompetence.
So I think this really puts a huge amount, you know, doing this as a staged event puts a huge amount of of momentum behind the Trump movement to do what they may want to do.
I think it's actually kind of a stroke of genius in a cynical world, very cynical world, but I think it's almost a stroke of genius.
Russ, I was counting on you to give that kind of a critique.
I love your skepticism.
Now look, there's more evidence coming in that they really believed they were going to kill Trump.
They're a bunch of hedge funds that put shorts on Trump's social media and other assets.
Yeah, I saw that.
That's important.
Lose value, and the reason, of course, would have been Trump had been taken out.
So that indicates foreknowledge.
The fact that they replaced his normal security detail with a bunch of mental midgets, including women who are completely incompetent and inexperienced, where the head of the detail was from Pittsburgh with limited experience.
That all shows, in my opinion, they were going to use this to kill Trump and then explain it was just a coincidence of incompetence and inexperience to explain it away.
My take.
Victor Hugo, go for it.
Your thoughts.
Jim, I'm really curious to hear your take on how this fits in with your background experience of the September 11th false flag The Sandy Hook false flag, the Boston bombing false flag, and the Las Vegas massacre false flag, taking into account that false flag does not mean that nobody was killed, that there wasn't collateral damage, but rather, like you said, that these things were predicted on September 11, 2001.
A lot of people did, they benefit from it with the stocks and everything, and people at Sandy Hook knew that the school was closed.
The same thing with this.
I mean, there's no such thing as coincidence.
There weren't mistakes made.
These things were intentional.
So with the knowledge that you have, do you really believe that this was a failed attempt or that this was actually programmed to be this way?
going in one or two directions, either the direction that it was made to look like Trump was going to be assassinated so that now he could, like you said, get all the people rallying behind him and make sure that he's 100% gonna be the winner so that then they can put him.
And maybe, I don't know if you guys realize this, Vance is the guy that he chose to be his vice president.
And I was doing videos today about how J.D.
Vance is totally in the pocket of the Zionists.
And again, when you follow the money back to the Jews.
So they may have failed this time in getting Trump, but once Trump gets in and he's going to be a shoo-in for election now, then they take him out for real.
Because believe me, these people, if they want you dead, they'll kill you.
They wouldn't, like you said, get that novice to go up there and do that.
They would have killed him for real.
I think that's an important point.
I mean, they didn't kill him.
That's what kind of bothers me about this whole thing.
I think if they really wanted to assassinate him, they would have got her done, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
They don't fail on this stuff.
They didn't fail with 9-11.
They didn't fail with Sandy Hook.
They didn't fail with the Las Vegas Massacre.
It's not just luck.
So yeah, I kind of lean towards your theory that the intent is to make it look like it was a deep state assassination attempt.
And then they bring in J.D.
Vance, who's totally in the pocket of the Zionists.
Then once J.D.
Vance is vice president, then you take Trump out.
Now you've got J.D.
Vance.
They're going to go Zionist police state.
But in the process, they're going to take out all these infested institutions on the security apparatus side.
They need to be able to get rid of these people, starting with the sacred service.
They're going to get a bunch of these people fired.
I don't know exactly the timing of it all, but they could do a complete sweep of the security apparatus just based on incompetence alone.
Yeah, but that was by design.
They did that on purpose.
They knew in advance.
This was a slow creep.
They knew what they were doing.
Am I wrong or am I right about this, Jim?
This is an incompetence.
This is by design.
Same thing with what's happening with...
Of course it's by design.
If he hadn't turned his head, he'd be dead, for crying out loud.
I mean, what could be more obvious?
This was a circumstantial failure that was designed to actually succeed.
It was an inside job, but it was done in an amateurish fashion.
But they were going to explain it all the way on incompetence, you know?
I mean, they wanted that plausible deniability.
You may be right.
This is really a very sneaky operation.
You may very well be right, because like you say, there's evidence, there's short selling going on, but you know, the Monday after this event, Trump's media stock went up 70%, so he just cleaned up.
Of course, because it was a failure!
I mean, but if it had been a success, it was designed to succeed, and it flopped, and it was a Call it a miracle if you want.
It was just his turning his head, but believe me, Victor Hugo, having exposed all these false flags, I've been very concerned with whether this could be a phony contrived event, and I've been forced to the conclusion it was a real attempt to take it out, but it was done in a deliberately clumsy way so they could have plausible deniability and just say, oh, well, you know, these were inexperienced Secret Service guys, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And explain it away.
I mean, they were prepared to explain it away.
Now, the whole thing has backfired massively, and even Democrat leaders in the Congress are acknowledging they have now resigned to a second Trump administration.
But your points about JD Vance are impeccable.
The more I look at this thing, the more I think Trump committed a colossal blunder by putting this guy Vance in.
If he'd taken someone like Thomas Massey as an alternative, he would have had something like an insurance policy instead.
I agree with you both.
I agree with you both.
He's now setting himself up to really be taken out so they can bring advances more reliable, in their opinion.
Trump, after all, talks about all this America first off.
They don't like that.
Trump is a nationalist.
They don't like that.
And by the way, I do believe, you know, they're already trying to suggest Iran had something to do with it.
Iran has denied it.
I've even heard a rumor that they're going to take out both Trump and Biden at the same time, which could be at the next debate, and blame it on Iran.
But it's the Mossad at work here.
Now, I have had the impression that Israel was supportive of Trump.
He's been making all these outrageous statements.
They've even changed the Republican platform to suggest they're going to deport Anti-Israel protesters, which is just absurd and unconstitutional and ridiculous beyond words.
He's really setting up the Republican Party as like a Zionist agenda.
So I agree with a whole lot of what both you and Russ have been saying.
Victor Hugo, go ahead, more.
I want to point out a couple of things.
What you and I just said about it being a false flag attack that wanted to take Trump out but failed.
And then that you could use the incompetence as an excuse.
I was reading the comments after I did the podcast and an analysis with Max Egan and the viewers are saying that we're shills for saying that and that we're just supporting the fake news media narrative by calling it a miracle.
So that's what I mean where you can't win in this argument because it's completely divided.
Even those that are pro-Trump are saying, no, this was a false flag.
It was set up.
Trump was in on it, but he had a blood thing.
He used to be a wrestler, so he was acting and everything.
And that when they went down and the Secret Service was on top of them, they just put the blood there.
They said that, like Russell was mentioning, that the blood didn't come out the way that it would normally come out.
They also said that the bullet would have actually torn his ear off and cut off a lot more.
So there's a lot, and I totally get that.
I'm not saying that I have all the answers to this.
I'm just speculating on it.
But it's such an incendiary conversation that right off the bat now, you and I, because of what we said, Jim, are seen as chills.
We're seen as being part of this fake news media now.
And you're the guy who's been exposing 9-11 and everything.
And even people amongst the alternative media now are fighting with each other.
It's really tough when you take a look at an event like I have and Jim has and put our eyes to it and we're coming up with some disagreements here and some agreements and a lot of stuff and trying to find the truth and being pissed on for it.
It's just very unfortunate how this all works.
I would say I'm a government agent, if you can believe that.
Well, what kind of an agent am I when I expose government complicity in JFK, 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, and more?
I must be the most incompetent, unsuccessful government agent.
What's so tough about this is now Trump is being built up as this heroic figure with his fight, fight, fight.
Everybody's rising up and supporting him.
And then you've got the miracle that God has come down from heaven and spared him his fate.
I mean, it's a pretty powerful message.
I just mean something highly improbable occurred.
He turned his head.
That's what I said.
If he had not turned his head, he would be dead.
I mean, they had the right side on him.
But I'm saying, at minimum, he'd have one hell of a headache for a month after this event.
Well, remember now...
When they talk about the ear being torn off, that's assuming it was an AR round, a .223 high velocity.
It was not.
It was a, I think it was a .22 long rifle.
And it's a nice small, that's a perfect .22 bullet wound in his ear, which is mostly cartilage.
And the fact is, you know, people do a whole lot of- It bleeds like hell though.
You know, there's a lot of, there's two arteries, an artery right here in front of your ear, and there's an artery in back.
And the beer is very vascular.
But they weren't hit, Rod.
So far as I get, they weren't hit.
I mean, they just hit this cartilage.
I think, again, I've seen the blood capsule theories and all that, and he's slamming his ear, but he was just hitting the air.
You think he's not going to react to that by reaching up to his ear?
I mean, that's ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had a hell of a headache, I think.
I go back to your analysis, Jim, which is, to me, the expert analysis on September 11th, Boston bombing, Sandy Hook, and the MGM grant.
You realize how they have us wasting our time, almost 20 minutes spent on us acting like we know anything like doctors about the amount of blood that comes out of the ear?
That's exactly what they want.
They want us talking about how much blood was coming out of the ear and whether or not he faked it.
They don't want us asking why nobody on the Jeffrey Epstein list has been indicted.
Where is the Jeffrey Epstein list?
The same FBI that's going to investigate this is holding on to all the evidence that they supposedly lost Jeffrey Epstein's island he had all those films and everything but he was filming everybody on that island also in his mansion in New York where's all that evidence how come only Ghislaine Maxwell is in a club fed serving where are all the people that were actually being pedophiles they don't investigate the September 11th attack properly
the same thing would say like all these other investigations that you investigated and you found out the truth They have us talking about how much blood was coming out of his ear.
They don't have us talking about like what we just pointed out that J.D.
Vance is going to be the vice president.
And then, yeah, they're going to.
So Trump is, again, making these stupid decisions.
He put Mike Pence in who turned out to be a total traitor.
He put Christopher Wray in, who turned out to be a total traitor, and here he is now announcing, like you said, he should have put Thomas Massey in, who actually said, hey listen, his wife was just killed because he exposed the fact that he doesn't have a Jewish handler.
But meanwhile, he's putting J.D.
Vance in.
And I don't know if you've seen the footage.
J.D.
Vance is all with the Zionists, the Jews, whatever you want to call them.
And he also said he would never vote for Trump.
He said he was a never-Trumper.
He admitted that he voted for Hillary Clinton and that he doesn't like Trump.
Yeah!
So this is a guy that he's choosing.
I did a video on that today and it was censored.
They didn't allow me to upload it.
Because the thing is they don't want people seeing the bigger picture.
Right now they've got everybody with this myopic view.
And Jim, you know this because you're the guy who saw past the Sandy Hook and saw past all this stuff to the point where they've actually been prosecuting you legally using the litigation vortex on you.
So I don't want to see you fall into this trap here.
There's a bigger picture.
There's a bigger picture here.
Unfortunately, Thomas Massey is like about 1,954th on Trump's list.
So it doesn't even enter the equation.
They were going to appoint a Zionist, period.
That's a done deal.
That's the reality of the world we live in.
So if that's the case, then I think it is necessary to look at blood flow from years and different forensics and clues of this event.
Some people can decide for themselves the merits of it maybe being a Trump-inspired stage event.
So what if it was?
What if it was?
The world is not going to change one bit from your desire and my desire to have Thomas Massey being the Vice President.
That's never going to happen.
It's not in the equation.
So let people at least analyze the situation from the point of view of deciding whether it has merit one way or the other.
And it is a distraction, no question about it.
This is what we're fed.
This is the cards we've been dealt.
You can't just ignore it.
Yeah, but I don't understand what the bleeding ear has to do with the fact that they're trying to kill us.
I don't understand that.
They're literally trying to kill you.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
Let me just add that these debates over, you know, exactly how it was done in Butler Don't affect the effect of the outcome.
I mean, this is an intellectual thing.
It's a bit esoteric.
The overwhelming effect has been to solidify Trump's support.
I described that little hole in his ear as worth 10 million votes.
The swing states are all going red.
He couldn't carry 50 states.
I believe it's entirely possible as a consequence.
So the politics of the thing are all overwhelmingly benefiting to Trump because he wasn't killed.
But look at the opposite.
Who really would have stood to benefit from Trump being dead?
But that's not what happened.
He survived.
Right, right, right.
But that was not the intended consequence.
And I go so far as to suggest Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Bodesta authorize this effort to take Trump out.
That's how far I'll go.
I'll answer your question of who would benefit if Trump was actually murdered.
It would have been the Jews.
Because again, every single aspect of this goes back to the Jews.
You've got to understand, they want to destroy the United States of America because they see it as a don't.
Their plan, and I remember Rumsfeld was talking about this back during September 11th, their plan was to go into Iraq, and then to go into Syria, and then eventually even get Iran.
And that's why they're now bringing up the whole Iran thing, because they want the Greater Israel Plan, just like they want the New Jerusalem Plan.
So again, they're not even going to be in an election, Jim.
So yeah, Trump was way ahead before that.
So now they realize, you know what?
How do you think they're going to cut off the election?
What's going to happen to do it?
They're going to do some kind of a dirty bomb.
They're not going to do a nuke.
They're going to do like a dirty bomb somewhere and it's going to totally try to create a situation where they have to declare martial law and they're going to do what Zelensky's doing, where he's just going to be president and there's not going to be any election.
And right now the world is realizing, I'm telling you, I'm surrounded by Russians, Ukrainians, people from Turkey and the Middle East.
They already predicted that the United States was going to try to blame Iran.
And this was like days ago, they told me.
And they've all seen the weakness of the United States.
They see the division in the United States.
And they're realizing that the United States is destroying itself, but it's trying to take and blame other people when, again, I hate to say it and people get mad at me for saying it, but it's the Jews people They want to kill you.
I mean, look at it.
Merrick Garland?
The FBI?
Who do you think controls the FBI?
The FBI works for the Federal Reserve.
You know what I'm saying?
The CIA works for so-called globalists.
Who are the globalists?
BlackRock had the so-called shooter in one of their videos.
What are the odds of that?
And then they took the video down.
Who's on the board of directors of BlackRock?
There's not one Amish.
There's not one Protestant.
There's not one Roman Catholic.
There's not one Hare Krishna or Seventh-day Adventist.
They're all Jews.
Who controls the banking system?
Who prints out the money?
I mean, people don't want to find what the problem is.
They want to, you know, point in other directions.
Oh, it's Iran.
Oh, it's the Diversity, equity, and inclusivity.
Oh, it's the FBI.
No, man.
Who controls all these?
Who's paying?
Follow the money.
That's why they're killing us.
And that's why, I don't know if you know this, but BRICS, they're telling the U.S.
to stuff it.
Iran is now moving into BRICS.
That's why the U.S.
is trying to start this war with Iran, because they're pissed off that Iran is going to be selling their oil using Anything but the petrol dollar.
The dollar's tanking.
I don't know.
Another thing they kept out of the news, I don't know if you know this, but 40 banks I agree with all you're saying here.
I agree with all that.
That was worse than the 2008 housing crisis.
Nobody's talking about that in the United States.
And you know that's going to have a ripple effect in the United States in the coming weeks, because what happens in China ends up eventually leading to the United States, because the United States is so infested in China.
But they're not telling you about that.
Did you know about that, Jim?
Yeah, yeah.
Victor, I agree with all you're saying here.
I agree with all that.
Ross, your thoughts?
Well, I mean, I agree with what you say, too.
And I think it probably suggested that other shoes are going to drop.
And I think it's going to be a cyber attack.
We can kind of debate what it's going to be, but the point is it's going to be destructive, probably really tear the economy apart, and be blamed on Iran.
That's what I think is going to happen next.
Yep, they're going to try to blame Iran.
It's ridiculous.
In essence, they realize they've lost a war in Ukraine, so Netanyahu is going to focus everything on Iran, and I do believe they're going to make an effort even to take them both out, potentially at the next debate, if Biden is still on his feet.
And, you know, blame Iran.
It's absurd.
Iran is the most peaceful nation in the world.
It hasn't launched a war of aggression against any other state since 1775.
Demonizing Iran is just moronic.
But Americans are so gullible.
Americans are so uneducated.
Americans are so lacking in knowledge of history.
They don't understand the players.
And they'll just buy what they hear up until now.
I mean, I'm telling you, the skepticism now about official narratives is growing by leaps and bounds.
Russ, would you agree with that?
Yeah, I mean, you know, we're totally over the target.
And the idea of killing both of these guys totally makes sense.
That the next debate or some, you know, in some sequence, maybe one of them get, maybe they go after Biden next.
And then everybody goes, Oh, you know, Trump's still on the clear.
And then they get him.
It's just a total demoralization.
It's a humiliation ritual and total demoralization of the country.
I think that humiliation thing is a big deal or a major factor, but choice of Vance was a calamitous blunder in my opinion.
I think we all three agree that they have put the Zionists in a position where if they kill Trump, they got a guy who is a more reliable Zionist.
I mean, his other pick was apparently Mario Rubio, who's just as bad as Russ.
Russ is bad, Russ.
Mario Rubio began as a teenage sex hustler, a real prostitute.
Give me a break.
Ridiculous.
Well, I think what I'm noticing, and again, just looking from the outside in, I can sense the tension, the humiliation and the demoralization just from both of you, Jim and Russell.
And, you know, I respect both of you, but it's sad to hear you guys speaking.
The way that you speak because there's no pride in any of your leadership.
Now, one of the things that I noticed when I'm here, these people are proud of Putin.
These people, their economy is booming.
China's economy is in the crapper.
The United States economy is in the crapper.
But Russia's doing fine.
These people are on vacation and they're starting families.
They have more than two kids and they see a future.
I don't see that when I speak to Americans.
They don't have a future in their mind.
They complain that they can't buy houses and stuff, you know?
I'm a huge fan of Vladimir Putin.
I think he's the only true statesman who's tried the world stage today.
And he's been a great leader for Russia.
Some say he could have been more aggressive in Ukraine.
I think that's part of his decency.
He wanted to spare as many civilian lives as he could, and he was a gradualist, which allowed the West to do even more to beef up Ukraine to fight.
But then the Minsk agreement.
See, he thought he was dealing with honorable people.
And even Shultz and, you know, they've admitted that it was just a fig leaf to weaponize Ukraine in order to conduct a more fierce fight against Russia, but they're defeating them on all grounds.
And setting up 16 is going to save the day or more money.
Zelensky's even come around to say, well, maybe next time when we have a summit, Russia ought to be invited.
Now let me ask both of you, because the viewers, when they leave comments, and I do read the comments because it's important.
We're building a digital community here, and it's important to hear what the viewers have to say.
And they say that we're old-timers.
Okay, granted, we've been around the block a couple of times.
But when I hear you say, Jim Fetzer, that the The Minsk agreement was based on them thinking that we were honorable and that we would keep our word.
Putin's acceptance of it was... Yeah, yeah.
Well, the world also felt that way.
But the world has now discovered that the United States' main export is a bunch of lies and bullshit, right?
You guys living there, and me having lived there too, that's why I left the country, because I was like, wow, this is full of lies.
How do you think you can convince the younger audience to understand what's going on?
Because we've had our time.
We gotta break, Victor Hugo.
We'll be right back with Russ Winter.
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For those who eventually see the video version of the show, which they're obviously not experiencing right now, Victor Hugo, what which they're obviously not experiencing right now, Victor Hugo, what are those wonderful, Those book coverings you've been displaying here, They're rather fascinating.
Tell us about them.
Well, I was involved in what's called the Crackhead Jesus Trials, which were presided over by Judge Donald W. Heffield, who was the judge who presided over the Jeffrey Epstein case in Florida.
And when I called him out as being a pedophile protector and as a corrupt judge, he told me that I couldn't talk about or write about what I knew, but he never told me that I couldn't paint about it.
So they were going to hold me in contempt of court and he was going to throw me in jail.
For three years, I went through this case, which I put the case numbers here on the actual paintings so that future generations could go on their phones and pull up the case numbers.
And every time I went to court, he said, I know you're making a mockery of this court because clearly I told you not to use my name or my likeness.
I said, Your Honor, I don't see your name anywhere.
You see how I had to put H-A-F-E-L?
I had to make it so cryptic.
That I wouldn't go to jail.
But it made me realize that we were in a litigation vortex and that they were using the legal system to shut people down.
And so that's why I put the case number 502006.
The thing is, when we are fighting this war, we have to think outside the box.
And that's why throughout history, you see artists like Goya and Salvador Dali are able to express the sign of the times, the zeitgeist.
And that's what we need.
That was the question that I pressed to you guys before we went on the break.
How do we get this younger generation to understand that they are under attack and they have to fight back?
We're in a situation like we just pointed out.
Trump made the mistake like he did with Mike Pence of putting a traitor in.
He's got J.D. Vance, who said that he voted for Hillary Clinton and was a never Trumper.
This is the guy that he appointed as his vice president, which is clearly now he's put a target on his back.
That's like the most ridiculous thing because now they'll they'll poison Trump.
They'll bring J.D. Vance in.
And J.D. Vance is already bought and paid for by these Zionist Jews.
No, just in response to the younger generation question.
Us older guys have just seen more.
We've lived through more of it.
We're ahead of the curve with regard to you because you just have less experience, but pay a little attention.
Well, just check us out and see if we've got what kind of batting average we have on these issues.
And when it comes to out-of-the-box thinking, I mean, here you have the improbable three highly out-of-the-box thinkers.
I don't know, you know, what we could do to increase the range.
Russ, I want to turn it back to you, my friend.
Yeah, the trolls, probably the number one criticism of me, personally, is I'm a boomer.
It's the same concept.
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
Yeah, they're blaming it on you, man.
That's true.
I mean, they say that you allowed this to happen.
And I have to say, we all allowed this to happen.
We saw this coming.
And we're allowing it to happen now.
There's some truth to that.
There's some truth to that, definitely.
It's like everything else.
You can't personalize it and attack one couple guys as being emblematic.
I mean, to attack me and Jim Fetzer as being emblematic of the Boomers?
Come on, get your act together.
By the way, one other question for you guys.
What's going on in the United States?
How come there haven't been any assassinations?
What I mean is, and I'm not encouraging this, but just people here ask me that as well.
They're like, The people in the United States have been injected with bioweapons disguised as vaccines.
The people in the military have been mandated and people at work have been mandated.
Their lives have been ruined.
And everybody's just like, okay with it.
People are dying.
And nobody's at least saying, you know what, if I die, I'm going to take a couple of people with me.
What's going on in the United States?
It doesn't work that way here, by the way.
These people, when they told them that they had to take the vaccines, they didn't take it.
When they told them that they had to wear their masks and stuff, and that they had to stay indoors, they didn't do that.
So these people fought back.
But in the United States, they just rolled over, and now they're still rolling over.
I don't get it.
Like, why is Fauci still running around, and all these guys that are clearly killing you, and nobody's doing anything about it?
That part, I don't get, and the people that are around, they don't get it either.
Maybe after this incident, people realize how bad the security is, and it'll start.
Maybe they're afraid of the security of being caught.
I mean, I would say one of the outcomes of this event is that security around these figures isn't that great.
He knows I kind of laugh.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you got people on TikTok and everything saying, why did the person miss?
So people are actually, and it's weird because I see the news coverage in the United States and they're flipping it.
They tried to kill Trump, and now they're saying, oh, well, wait a minute, wait a minute, you can't be saying that, you know, people need to defend themselves.
It just blows my mind.
Again, these people killed you.
The people that you see on the evening news?
Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, they were all telling you that you couldn't even go to a store unless you got the bioweapon.
They fired you from your jobs!
They're making you cut off your children's testicles, and people are just sitting around going, oh well, I don't want to be called racist.
I don't want anybody to say that I'm homophobic.
It blows my mind.
Again, I'm on the outside looking in.
If I was in the United States, I don't know what I would do, so I don't mean to, you know, insult my brothers and sisters there, but I can tell you it looks really weird from the outside looking in.
Well, I mean, I wouldn't recommend people end up dead like Thomas Crook, so I'm not advising anybody to get involved themselves in that type of political violence.
You'll die.
You're going to end up dead with blood coming out of your mouth and people bad-mouthing you big time.
Do the people of the United States really think they're going to be able to negotiate their way out of this with these psychopaths who are clearly intent on killing you?
That's the question that we have.
These people want to kill you.
They're clearly saying, they're showing you they want to kill you.
And you're gonna negotiate your way out with these psychopaths?
They're psychopaths.
How do you deal with psychopaths?
You made a lot of great points here today, Victor Hugo.
I do like it.
Russ, this thing about Vance is so troubling!
It's such a mistake!
I'm just ready to barf for me now.
You know, I would kind of recommend that people watch, you can go to Netflix, and he wrote a book.
It's called the Hillbilly... Eulogy.
Eulogy or something like, you know, something to that effect.
And it's actually a very good movie because it kind of concentrates on white poverty.
That's kind of where he, I think he's kind of building his base around as a populist that came from The Roots.
And you really feel sorry for him in this movie.
It's a very good movie.
It's very powerful propaganda.
But you can tell he's a damaged person.
He's a little bit like Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton sort of had this strange familial background.
No real father.
And neither did dance.
And so there's something psychologically going on with him.
He's married to an Indian woman.
Yeah.
Some of this Indian thing is being brought into the mix because they're a little bit like the Jews.
They've kind of a chosen people mentality.
So they kind of fit that mold.
And they're bringing them in kind of as allies to this takeover of the country.
You know, you look at Eric and Donald Jr.
in Vans.
They have a very similar appearance.
They all have these beards, they're all young, you know, they all look very much alike.
I wonder if Trump just doesn't feel like Vance is sort of like a son, you know?
I get that sense that there's a psychodynamic involved there.
Where, you know, Eric was on the other day just saying how they have this tremendous chemistry.
But I don't know.
I think this Vance guy is totally 100% suspect.
And if we had those clips where he's denouncing Trump from the past, I think it would be shocking to the public that Trump should have chosen him.
If we go to another break, I'll bring up those clips after the next break, Jim, because I've got them.
Well, go ahead for it, because we would normally take calls, but if you can set them up, you mean let me make you a host?
Shall I make you a host?
Will you be able to do it?
Yeah, but give me a minute.
Let me find them first, because I've got them on me.
Yeah, you go ahead.
I'm making you a host right now.
Russ, go ahead.
Fill in more of your thoughts.
I mean, where do we go from here?
I mean, is he going to make similarly bad appointments to the cabinet?
I mean, crying out loud.
Well, when I was looking in advance, I came across the speech that he made at 3 o'clock in the morning to the Senate.
About an hour long speech.
And he's very articulate.
He's not a dumb guy at all.
Look, he's a brilliant guy.
He went through Ohio State in two years, summa cum laude, graduated from Yale, our best law school.
He's the editor of the Law Review.
He's a super smart guy.
Yeah.
Kind of like Clinton.
He's kind of a Clinton type, I think.
But he's probably damaged because his mom was a drug addict and he had a very, very rough upbringing.
Uh, which he's apparently overcome, but he's like a turtle on a fence post.
I mean, where did he come from?
Who plucked it?
Well, it's Peter Thiel and all these Jewish billionaires.
That's who plucked, that's, they selected him as their boy.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think they were telling Trump, he's the guy we think would be best for you.
Not realizing he's setting himself up as a big target to be taken out because they'd like the other guy better.
But his speech that he made in the middle of the night was kind of worth listening to.
Forbes ran it.
And one of the things he got into is Ukraine.
I think what they're going to do is they're going to try to wrap Ukraine up, make peace.
Yeah.
And he literally said it's because the United States does not have the ability to just endlessly produce arms and weapons and armaments.
And we really need them for Israel.
Or Taiwan, you know.
Right.
So there's a realization within the thinking of whoever's running the act that we need, that the United States needs to get off of three-front warfare and get back into a more controlled environment, controlled engagement.
He thinks strategically.
Well, that's very interesting.
Hugo, have you got it?
Yeah, I've got the videos.
Now I'm just trying to figure out the audio here.
So give me a minute.
Screen share.
Go ahead.
Try it.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and try that.
But in the meantime, what I'll do is I will show you what he actually put.
Hold on a second.
So there's this.
I don't know if you've seen this before.
Yes.
No.
So, J.D.
Vance says on January 15th of 2022, American hospitals are overwhelmed.
It's time to take this seriously.
As a start, let's fire thousands of nurses who refuse to get the vaccine.
That will help.
So he's authoritarian.
Yeah, he's an authoritarian.
Wow.
Yeah.
So this is the guy that people are going to want to vote for.
And again, if they vote for Trump, this is who they're going to get.
This is terrible.
So it's October 25th of 2021.
Vaccine and mask mandates in New York are working great to stop the spread.
It was a total fraud, a total scam.
Just gross.
So I'm going to show you this, but again, the audio is not working on this.
I'll read it for you.
Oh, here we go.
Just pull your cursor down and we can read it.
Yeah, so he says, I'm a never Trump guy.
As somebody who doesn't like Trump, I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.
I didn't vote for Trump because I can't stomach Trump.
I think that he is noxious.
Him being really outrageous and offensive.
He says, I find him reprehensible.
But he changed his mind.
Based upon Trump's first term, he changed his mind.
So that's how he's covered that.
I voted for Trump twice, and now he's changing my mind.
I think you got some really great finds, Victor, on those first ones about the vaccines.
Those are good finds.
Scary!
Now here's J.D.
Vance at this event that they That's like a Jew?
That's him there?
Oh, well, there he is on the left.
But all these Jews are singing his praise?
They're singing about miracles.
Yeah, yeah.
So, he's there, and then watch.
He gets up there, and he gives a speech wherein he says that the United States is all about Israel.
There he is.
I think what this says is, uh, kill all the goy.
Kill all the non-Jews.
Oh, nice!
Right there!
Right there!
Look at this.
And look at all the people in attendance.
Again, this guy doesn't understand.
And I'm not making this stuff up.
It says it in the Talmud.
Even the best of non-Jews should all be killed.
So this guy has no idea that as soon as they're done using him, just like as soon as they're done using Trump or anybody else, Biden, they're gonna kill them because they feel that they're God's chosen people and that everybody who's not part of their tribe Deserves to die!
I don't understand where people aren't getting this, you know?
Because they don't want to be called anti-Semitic.
The term Gaza genocide does not show up in his vocabulary at all.
You never hear him mention it.
All these people, they hate you.
They hate you.
I don't understand how else to tell you.
I mean, I don't want to cover this stuff up here.
But they look at him as a goy.
You gotta understand, they use the money that they print out of nothing to buy guys like this.
Yes.
So it's just a big Babylonian magic trick.
And I don't know how else to explain it to people, but that's the way that it is.
And I don't know if you heard... Oh, by the way, I showed you already that this guy is a Jew.
The killer Thomas Matthew Crook's family embraces Scottish... Oh, embraces Scottish Jewish ethnicity.
Yeah.
So, again, what if he was a Muslim?
Do you realize, guys, what the state of the United States would be now if the killer was a Muslim?
So this is really what you're voting for here with Donald Trump.
He's a crypto Jew.
And I just want to show you one other thing that people don't understand.
When Trump was in office, every single aspect of his campaign funding is Jewish.
And remember, he hired Wilbur Ross, who helped him out with the New Jersey bankruptcy on the casino that he had over there, the Taj Mahal.
And then, of course, Wilbur Ross worked for the Rothschilds.
And then you've got the former CEO of Walt Disney.
I mean, it's all... Again, I don't mean...
Yeah, good question.
Victor, good.
That was all good.
I liked all that.
I wonder how many of these people he's going to bring back in his next administration.
Yeah, good question.
Victor, good.
That was all good.
I liked all that.
Thank you for that.
So, yeah, I mean, that's.
Yeah.
Russ, that's all very disturbing.
It's not like this man is a lunatic, a brilliant lunatic.
That's just what we need because he could be more successful and effective in implementing his out of touch with reality ideas.
That stuff on the backs is very disconcerting.
Yeah, he's 39 years old, so he could be around a long time and do a lot of damage.
Right. - All right.
I don't, you know, I've still up in the air of how much of a warmonger he is.
I mean, he's, he's strategic.
And if you listen to that speech on the Senate, it wasn't bad in that way, but clearly his goal is to support Israel.
So it's kind of, he's talking about being real hard on Iran.
Yeah, they want a war with Iran so they can't really support Ukraine anymore.
They're gonna put them under the bus, make a rapprochement with Russia, and then be able to go back in the Middle East and fight Israel's wars.
That's what it feels like to me.
Man, the problem is Iran is nothing to mess with, guys.
I can tell you that.
They are backed by Russia, China, and the entire Middle East, so the moment the United States decides to kick that hornet's nest... I think that's why Vance wants to get moving on disengaging Russia and Ukraine and getting that situation stabilized.
Yeah.
Have you guys heard of the Trump prophecy?
No, tell us.
Basically, supposedly, In the book of Revelation it said that a guy would have an attack on his head and that's what happened to Trump and he survived it and so now everybody's behind Trump but basically what is going to happen is he's going to be the guy who's going to bring back the Mashiach.
Some people think he's the Antichrist.
I disagree with that.
I don't think he's the Antichrist.
You mean the Mashiach?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the point is they want to get rid of Russia.
They want to get rid of China.
They want to depopulate the planet to 500 million, but they want Iran to be involved so that they can blame Iran on destroying the temple so that they can build a third temple and then bring back the Mashiach.
And you know where that 500 million comes from?
It's chosen people plus their slaves, because each of them is entitled to, I don't know, 1,200 slaves?
That's how you get that 500 million?
It's just bizarre!
It's 2,800.
Each one gets 2,800 and they're going to get... 2,800 slaves!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, it's just... It's a death cult.
They've managed to wrangle J.D.
Vance and Trump and the Senate and the Congress into it.
That's why the world, again, guys, I'm telling you, looking at it from the outside in, the world sees the United States of Israel as a death cult.
They don't take you guys seriously.
They saw the footage of those women Not being able to put the gun back in their holster.
Yeah, in her holster.
It's super embarrassing.
You don't see that in China or in Russia or in the Middle East.
So, I don't know, guys.
I feel really bad because I would love to go home, but I'm not going to go home today.
Oh, Victor, you're far better off where you are.
My God.
I have no doubt about it.
Listen, I'm going to open the call lines, 608-957-8727, 608-957-8727, if you want to call in with Russ Winter, Victor, Hugo, and me.
These are obviously very pressing issues.
And I got to say, the more you learn about Vance, the more disturbing his appointment, his selection becomes.
Russ, I'm just...
I'm just mind boggled.
It makes me wonder about Trump, though.
Remember he just put Christopher Wray in there?
Trump put, uh, who was it?
The Attorney General that he put in there, who didn't even check into Bill Barr.
You mean Mitch Barr?
Bill Barr?
Bill Barr could have taken care of the whole stolen election, but he actually told them not to investigate it.
Apparently Eric Trump is the whisperer in daddy's ear about Vance.
Oh really?
He likes him.
Oh, Eric likes Vance?
Yeah, because the thing is, in terms of image, he's kind of a good old boy from the hillbillies.
I'm always saying, making sayings on my shows, that we're not in Kansas anymore.
Yeah.
Well, you know, he feel—Dance feels like a Kansas boy, so I can't really say that about him.
He's a good old boy.
He fits right in.
He fits right in with his sons.
I mean, it's like he's another son of Donald.
When I say they, I mean the Jews who control the news media.
They've been putting it into the people's minds in the United States that it's racist to have a white president so they were all about Obama and yet here we are now two years in a row where they're putting two old white guys in And they've managed to pull off such a great trick that they've got the black people backing up, like you said, some hillbilly J.D.
Vance and Donald Trump, a multi-billionaire.
So, I mean, it's just... Do you see how they've been brainwashing people?
Again, the United States is brainwashed, and people again seem to forget.
Again, I keep saying it, it's the Jews... But Victor, don't you know it's divine intervention when...
Yeah, divine intervention.
God's will.
Yeah, 0.02% of the population control 90% of the media.
The television, the social media, the newspapers, the radio stations.
That means that's more than just a coincidence.
That's not happenstance.
That's by design.
I mean, mathematically, it's impossible.
Statistically, it's impossible.
These people are put in there.
They even control the sports, from the tennis, to the boxing, to the soccer, all over the world.
The sons of the terrorists who blew up that hotel, Emanuel, Rob Emanuel, and his brother who controls Hollywood, who's the agent for Donald Trump, those three brothers, their father was a terrorist.
The Israelis were the ones who started the whole false flag thing.
Again, people don't know their history.
But yeah, we've got a problem, and it's a Jewish problem, and you're not allowed to talk about it.
The only reason I'm able to talk about it— We talk about it here quite a lot.
The problem is, how many really understand it?
It's a minuscule proportion of the American population that have any idea what's really going on.
And you know what's funny?
I've been trolled by ADL and IDF trolls out there because they know that I'm daring to name the Jew.
So what they do is inversion.
Now they're claiming That I am a quadruple CIA Mossad agent and that I am in fact Jewish because I have a yarmulke and I put a yarmulke on.
A quadruple!
That's worse than being called a boomer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the thing is, the people are so dumbed down in the United States that they actually believe it.
So if I wore a Superman cape, they'd believe that I was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound and fly around with Louis Lane on my back.
You know?
Yeah.
But this is the level of mentality that we're dealing with.
Okay, we got a break.
We got a caller on the line who will have a lot to say.
We'll be right back.
Okay.
Paul?
Paul, you there?
We'll be right back.
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Well, our caller is fully prepared to tell us what we got right and wrong.
Paul, join the conversation.
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't know why you opened the phone line, unless you would probably say, except for Paul, don't call.
Cause you know, I'm just going to come at you with the same stuff over and over again.
Um, You know, there's a number of interesting things have been said.
You know, overall, I enjoyed the discussion earlier.
And by the way, in terms of the minuscule percentage of the population that understands what's going on, yes, of course, you're talking to one of them.
But I expect everybody on this panel, shall we call it, to be one of them as well.
And Jim, sometimes I just I'm perplexed because I don't know what Trump has to do or not do or has to say or not say.
For you to be done with him, okay?
I mean, I'm just gonna put it as bluntly as I can, right?
Trump is a grifter, a piece of shit, a known sexual assaulter who's been accused in court documents multiple times.
He's a servant and a tool of the Jews.
He shut down the U.S.
economy and sustained an emergency longer than any other president in history, which hurt lots of businesses, including plenty of white-owned businesses.
He pushed the vaccine, he gave the vaccine makers, the vaccine companies, billions of dollars, right?
We could go on and on in this vein.
There isn't one single white nationalist of any known status or merit that thinks anything of Trump but negative.
Believe me, there's dozens and dozens and dozens of podcasts.
I think Jim's come around on Trump.
I don't quite know what you're talking about.
Well, so then I'll say this, okay, so then who cares whether they tried to assassinate him or not?
Who cares whether he lived or not?
You know, somebody earlier in the show said something about, I think it was you, Jim, said the next move might be to get both Trump and Biden at a debate.
I'm thinking, well, good!
So then we'll, you know, we'll be done with both of them and maybe we'll be a little bit closer to the American people waking up.
Victor Hugo earlier said that He made a comment about, well, there hasn't been or he doesn't understand how there hasn't been, quote, political assassinations.
Yeah.
You know, William Pierce used to say such things on his broadcast back in the 90s, American Dissonant Voices.
I have listened to probably all of them and most of them several times.
That's one of the things that kind of bent my brain.
And I remember distinctly a particular broadcast where William Pierce was saying that he was pretty much baffled or perplexed why there hadn't been a wave of political assassinations, and that's the way that he phrased it, a wave of political assassinations.
And I'll just say this, so I was talking to our good friend Chicago Brew this morning, Jim, and by the way, Brew, Mona, and other people that you know, Sophia, none of them are buying this assassination attempt as real, okay?
As, in other words, as real bullet, real gun, that it was really An authentic attempt that, like, you characterized as a botched deep state sort of thing.
I don't think so.
This is my opinion.
It's okay.
You know, I respect all those guys, and I respect you, Paul, and I'm telling you, I can only give you my honest opinion, right?
And I'm telling you, this was a real but botched attempt on Trump, and it backfired massively.
And I think eventually, eventually you'll come around to get it, but that's okay.
I don't have any problem with those even people as I'd like as much as all those you're citing.
And as far as Trump and all that, you miss, that I'm not talking about in terms of Ideals are what should be the case.
I'm dealing with a political reality.
I'm analyzing—you can call it theater, but it requires analysis.
What's going on?
What moves are being made?
What are the effects going to be on the electorate, on the outcome, and the future of the country?
In my dreams, sure.
Let's dispense with Trump and Biden.
What have we got left?
Where is the country left?
You know, you ignore Trump, but he's better than the alternative.
That's the problem.
When you come down to the bottom line, Paul, he's better than the alternative, warts and all, and he's got a lot of them.
Okay, that's what I don't get about you.
I don't know why it's so hard to take the extra step To where I'm at and where so many of the people like myself are at, which is there's no political solution.
There's no political way out of this.
You know, I mean, it doesn't matter whether he's better than the alter.
He's a better actor on the stage.
I mean, think about where we're at, OK?
Do we have any say that, you know, we're going to get?
I mean, how did all this happen?
Essentially, as you have covered on your show so many times, we're more or less ruled by demonic Jewish pedophiles, right?
I mean, that's really kind of what the score is in a nutshell.
And was this any of our choice?
Did we get to vote on that?
You know, I mean, did people really get to vote when they did the Federal Reserve?
Hey, let's let European Jewish bankers control our money, you know?
Did we actually get a say in that?
Again, I've made the statement over and over about politics that if we don't get to decide policy and law, then voting is a fucking waste of time.
Okay, now I'm going to repeat my position at the beginning of the show and I'm going to state it emphatically so that maybe sooner or later you just give up on the guy.
Trump is a fucking piece of shit.
It doesn't matter if he's president or not.
I'll leave it at that for the moment.
And I'm analyzing who's going to become president given the situation we're in, given our limited ability to affect the outcome, what in fact is going to be the course of history.
That's a different matter than concluding the guys of POS.
He may be a POS.
That's not the question I'm addressing.
It's what is this POS going to do?
How is it going to affect the course of American history?
That's my project, Paul.
I think you just missed the boat when it comes to the level at which I'm analyzing the events, because you presume, because of your superior insight, that the guy's a P.O.S.
and we ought to just dispense with him, not care about him.
I care about the P.O.S.
because he's making a difference of politics and the life of Americans, and I want to sort out where it's going.
Name one American president after Kennedy, okay, and then we can debate about what Kennedy did or didn't do.
Name one American president, one American election after Kennedy that changed anything, that altered discourse that we're on.
Basically, a toboggan ride into the abyss.
They are putting the finishing touches around the world, not just here.
They're putting the finishing touches on the white race.
They are letting brown and black hordes into every white country, not just letting them, they're promoting them.
You might as well think of the white race as being forced to kneel down with a blindfold while he hears the bullets being put in the revolver and wonders, what the fuck is going to happen next?
Okay.
Victor Hugo is exactly correct in characterizing this as a war.
Okay.
Trump is anti-white.
Let me make it more clear.
Go.
I can give you all the links, all the websites, but you don't even take in the content.
Most of the stuff I send you, you don't really look at.
And you've admitted that to me.
Some stuff you do.
So all I can say is, again, with Trump, it doesn't matter whether he's president or not.
Politics doesn't matter.
As currently constituted in our current system, right, politics is a show.
You know, I don't know why you even talk about it, Paul, since none of it matters and it's all a show.
Why do you just keep your mouth shut?
I don't get it.
Hold on.
Paul, I have a question for Paul because I agree with you.
It doesn't matter if they're black, white, Hispanic, whatever.
The United Slaves of Israel are not going to be able to vote their way out of this.
You can't just go to the Dominion machine and press the button harder.
That's not going to happen.
So I am 100% in agreement with you.
The United Slaves of America are doomed if they don't actually do something.
What, in your opinion, do the United Slaves of America need to do?
In my opinion, first and foremost, they need to wake the fuck up.
Second of all, they need to be united.
Whites, blacks, tacos, whatever you want to call them.
Because the thing is, it's the Jews that are trying to kill all the non-Jews.
So they've already, like, you know, if you consider yourself a white supremacist or white nationalist or whatever, all those labels need to be put behind.
It's the Jews versus the non-Jews.
And this is, like you said, going on globally.
The rest of the world has got it figured out.
Because I'm living with Muslims and Russians and an Orthodox Christian country.
And everybody's getting along.
There's not this, like, I'm not worried when I see the Muslims here that they're going to do some kind of attack.
No.
I see them with their harems.
I see them with their women with the burqas and covered from head to toe and everything.
And you know, hey, that's their thing.
I'm not going to tell them Like, the United States points fingers at people, oh, you need to be politically correct and this and that, the other thing.
Although I noticed they don't have the guts to say that to the Muslims or to the Jews.
The only people that they have the ability to say, hey, listen, you need to hire more blacks or more this or that, the other thing, are the whites.
And, you know, the whites have become cocks.
So you're your own worst enemy.
So I'm asking you, Paul, I agree with you.
What do the white people need to do to get the blacks and the tacos and everybody else on their side?
Because right now everybody sees you as the enemy because the Jewish owned media has painted you guys as a bunch of racist white supremacists and that's not the case because I know a lot of... I was sitting next to a Nazi the other day.
The guy full-on had like a swastika.
He was Azov Battalion.
He was sitting right next to me.
Nice guy, you know?
I've met Nazis, but apparently... I don't know.
You're supposed to hate all Nazis, but you're supposed to love all Jews.
So, that being said, what's the solution?
Because we're not going to vote our way out of this.
You're absolutely right.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to propose?
Do you want to keep going, or do you want me to answer briefly?
I want you to answer, yes.
Okay, so like a lot of people, I have a lot of ideas, okay?
And almost all of them I can't talk about on the air, if you know what I'm saying.
Why?
If you have an enemy, Victor, if you have more than one enemy, right?
And you know for a fact that these enemies are bent on your destruction or your annihilation, And the system of government or laws in place will not be on your side, well then what are you going to do?
Okay?
That's just, you know, I'll answer your question with a question.
What would you do?
Okay?
And it's sort of like, I'll tell a story, just a brief story from my personal life, right?
And I totally believe it.
I don't have any proof of it, but I believe what she told me.
So I was friends with, way back when I was younger, like about in my early 30s, I was friends with this woman.
She was 23 years old, actually.
And I was interested in her.
But, you know, at the time, you know, she was kind of involved with somebody.
But, you know, we enjoyed each other's company.
And she told me this story of a few years ago.
I think she was maybe 19 or 20 or something.
And she had this boyfriend stalker she had broken up with.
And he just would not let go, including a couple of different times, breaking into her house and breaking into her bedroom.
And he did it, I think, one too many times is what, you know, the way it went.
One time, it was like 1.30 in the morning, and her parents were home.
I mean, everybody was home, right?
And this guy did it, like, middle of the night, climbed up and broke into her bedroom.
Well, about two weeks later, they found this guy dead in a vacant lot.
And this was in some fairly major city in Texas.
And she told me point blank that everybody in the family knew that her dad had done it.
Her dad took care of business.
But, you know, there was no proof, and it was never talked about.
But he handled it.
So the white people need to handle their business.
And we don't give a fuck.
You can listen to my shows on what used to be Speak Free is now FTJ Media and other people like myself saying the same thing.
Is it up?
We don't give a... Is FTJ up and running, Paul?
Is it up and running?
Yes, it is.
FTJ is up and running.
So anyway, to interrupt my flow, but I'm almost done.
We don't give a good goddamn what any brown or black people.
We're not looking to unite with any of those people.
We're not counting on their support.
We don't need to win them over.
I don't give a shit what happens to any of them.
Okay.
We have our own ass to save.
Okay.
And we're a dwindling percentage of the world's population.
We need our own territory.
Like William Pierce used to say, this is all about the territorial imperative.
It's about nature and survival.
We need to control our own territory and to exclude others.
That's it.
Russ, I think we know where Paula's coming from.
Your thoughts about all of the above?
Well, I mean, I think he added the fact that the whites are a declining population, low birth rates, dwindling.
Some of it's kind of self-inflicted.
But I think we need allies.
You know, I really do.
I guess I'm kind of more of a civic nationalist.
I know that's getting to be a bad term.
I don't think Paul would appreciate that term at all.
But I don't have, I'm just not quite as hardcore, but that's okay.
I don't really frown on Paul's opinion.
I don't have a, you know, I'm not going to turn around and call him a Nazi or racist or anything like that, but I just have a softer view and I would like to build some alliances, particularly with the Muslims.
So Russ, to your point, though, I mean, none of us, we're all, you know many of us, right?
I mean, I know you know Giuseppe, and you know many other people, you've been on their shows before.
We're all nice people, okay?
And it's not like we... Oh, definitely.
Definitely nice people.
I love you guys.
Yeah, it's not like, it's not like we...
Are adamant against working with anybody?
No, we'll take a co-op.
Anybody that's on our side, basically, if you are pro-white, if you realize that it's the white race that creates civilization, that creates the standard of living and all the modern conveniences, and that you appreciate us, and it's sincere, hey, you're welcome, brother.
Stand by my side.
But we're not counting on you.
We're not going to solicit your approval.
But that's where I'm coming from.
And believe me, I'm not alone.
I've had lots of reinforcement.
and approval of the things that I say.
And they're not really original thoughts.
I mean, I've read Mein Kampf.
I read Henry Ford's book.
I've listened to George Lincoln Rockwell.
I've listened to probably 100 plus hours of William Pierce.
We have to have clarity, and we have to take care of ourselves.
And we can't count on the fact that any other race is going to help us.
Now, if they want to, they...
But Paul, the reason why, in my opinion, correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why you got to this point where you're eliminating yourselves is because of white people.
So if you're, like Russell said, not going to align yourself with people who, like myself, I happen to be white, I consider myself white, but I'm considered a taco, a Hispanic, but tacos consider themselves whites.
Like Chinese, Asians, they consider themselves whites too.
So what I'm trying to say is like, it's white people that have created the situation that you're in, because it's the white people that are passing these diversity, equity, and inclusive laws.
It's these white judges.
It's these white lawyers.
So what are you going to do about that?
Yeah.
What you just said is a mild version of blaming the victim.
In other words, it's basically It's our fault, the American people's fault, that we have the government we have.
In other words, I've heard these versions before, like, oh, you get the government that you deserve, or it's our fault for allowing this to happen.
What?
What are you talking about?
Most people just want to live their lives, and they do.
They go about their business, right?
Most people, as you have probably already experienced, most people are good people.
Most people are audible people.
In fact, I go back to what's known as the wallet test, where they take a wallet, and they throw it in different neighborhoods, and they keep track of how How many times the wallet, there's a phone number in it, and how many times they get a call and the wallet is returned.
And it's a very interesting social experiment that was done a while ago.
And what they found is that there wasn't that much difference in the so-called neighborhoods and the races.
Now, in the aggregate, there's problems with a lot of racial behavior.
Jim has covered this topic.
But again, you know, this idea that we have control by voting is nonsense because the Constitution was set up as a permanent taxing aristocracy.
There can be no doubt about that when it's properly analyzed.
So therefore, we have given these wealthy—go ahead, I'm sorry, Jim.
No, I just said that Brew has joined us.
I just want to give him a little air time, given that he's here.
Brew, go ahead.
Paul, you're sounding like a Jew playing the victim now.
Now you're the white guy playing the victim.
I don't know if you know how ridiculous that sounds.
Hang on, hang on.
I want to bring in Brew.
Chicago Brew, join the conversation.
Go ahead.
Somebody was saying, that's too, a Ukrainian Nazi the other day, and he was at the Nazi symbols and the whole European, and he was laid off Italian, and he just seemed like a normal guy.
You mean you met somebody who was either MK Alchard and then put that costume, it's a costume, he puts his costume on for the narrative for Ukrainian Nazis.
You know for over 75 years nobody found a whole flock of Nazis.
You know the whole Nazi narrative that even to the German, what you're talking about the German army that weren't even They are terrible to be today.
We know everything they say about almost everything.
They say about Germany and the Third Reich and whatever.
Our lives will just start lifting it off.
So all of a sudden, in Ukraine, out of nowhere, as they were hunting down 90-year-old ladies and 80-year-old men that allegedly worked at a concentration camp or were the secretary In a concentration camp and they were lining these people up the entire time that they were occupying Ukraine.
They were just effortlessly running around Nazis until we heard about it a few years ago when Russia decided to defend themselves against the Ukrainians right before they invaded Crimea.
Now, you were standing next to one the other day.
Either they're M.K.
Archer or they're just being paid, and they're in suit costumes.
All of it is in a costume.
And for you, everything you're going to say today, I don't care what you say today.
So throw that in.
I was standing next to one the other day.
That's just a lie.
Narrative.
Period.
No such thing as a Nazi.
Okay?
Even if they're just the same Nazis, that's all a term.
Period.
I couldn't quite make out all the words, Brew, but I do think, by the way, there's an additional Ukrainian motive to maybe, since Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine, and I think he's utterly sincere about that, the Ukrainians might want to take him out themselves.
And, of course, they're rather ruthless, regardless of whether or not you're using the word, you know, you think the word Nazi has been abused.
The brutality, the atrocities they've committed in Ukraine are just stunning and gross.
Are you suggesting they're not actually having committed all those outrageous acts?
I mean, further... Yeah, that's a Jew-run operation.
Same thing with what's going on in Gaza.
Same thing, there's Jew operations going on all over the world.
They're behind, you know, they might not be at the top of the food chain, but who's ever at the top of the food chain said you people are psychotic enough and whatever to help carry out what we want in the end.
And if you, what you ever, what you picked up and gained along the way is fine as long as we, what we get.
So whatever the hydrocrap above the general Jew population is, they're being allowed to do it.
I think we keep saying, I keep saying allegedly there's only 15 million Jews in the entire world.
Well, that's funny.
If there's only 15 million of them, how is it that they're in every situation there could possibly be?
They run all the NGOs, they're in our public offices, they're the secretaries, they're the dog catchers, they're in our councils, they're in our school boards, they're everywhere.
Not just here in America, in Canada, in Europe, and so on, and so on, and so on.
I think just 15 million of them, I think that in itself is a I'll answer that question.
Why if 15 million can control 8 billion?
It's because they have schizophrenia and a lot of them are psychopaths.
They have no compassion.
They have no empathy.
They have no problem killing you.
So that's your answer.
If you have people who their being is to kill you, meanwhile most white people and most people in general have empathy and compassion and so They know that, and they take advantage of that.
And that's what they do.
If you've ever seen the movie The Thing... Hang on one second.
Let me make a point, because I'm going to answer your question, and I'm going to reinforce something that Brew just said about where these people are all in the positions of power.
What we're dealing with here, when you talk to me about, well, I was basically trying to play the victim like the Jew, and of course that was a silly interpretation of what I said.
So, here's the thing, all right?
These people have actively sought, for a very long time, centuries, millennia, it doesn't really matter the time frame, it's well known, their history has been written about, okay?
They deliberately seek out positions of power and control, and in them, they exercise their plan, which is typically to screw us, okay?
To genocide us, as has been done before, right?
So this is just the, what we're seeing now is the latest iteration Of what many people believe is their biological nature, okay?
So, in that sense, we are victims because we are not as ruthlessly aggressive in terms of acquiring power and implementing our agenda.
And because the political system is deliberately designed to fail us, to not give us the redress, to not give us the control over our own laws and policy, Then yes, we don't have anywhere else to turn except to what has historically always worked in these situations, which is violence.
A violent response.
I've used it over and over.
I've told the same story going back five, seven or more years on various venues where I said this is nothing more than the schoolyard brawl, right?
The schoolyard bully that won't leave you alone until you fight him.
We got another caller, 816, but there's so little time.
816, make a real brief statement.
When they start talking about Ukrainian Nazis, it drives me nuts, because Christ said, know them by their actions, okay?
Do you think Adolf Hitler would like Zelensky as the leader of the Nazis?
Taking his symbolism from, you know, when he was around, and then they're applying it to them and hiding a Zionist Jewish army behind those symbolisms.
That's what they're doing.
Right.
I'm glad I squeezed you in there.
I'm glad I squeezed you in.
Russ, I'd like your final thoughts for today.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm hearing people defend Hitler a lot, and I'm just going to weigh in a little bit on that.
I'm very pro-Slavic.
I've lived in a Slavic country for 11 years.
I love the Slavic people.
Poland is a wonderful country, and it's all white country.
Slovakia, Romania, you know, all these countries in here.
Ukraine, even Russia, those are Slavic people.
Those are white Slavic people.
Hitler and his crew just butchered them.
They destroyed Poland as a country.
They could have taken their territory back and And then they go into, you know, the general government and just rape them.
You know, just basically... Oh, boo, Brian.
Thank you for your calls.
Victor Hugo.
Ross, just wonderful to have you here.
I look forward to having you back again.
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