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The Raw Deal (29 May 2024) A FEW GOOD MEN # w/ Alan Sabrosky
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If I need someone.
When I was young, so much younger than today.
I never needed anybody's help in any way.
Ah, but now these days are gone and I'm not so self-assured.
If I don't find a change in my mind, I hope I'll knock the door.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
And I do appreciate you being around.
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you feel it?
Well, this is Jim Pett, sir, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B, this 29th day of May, with Bill Bonitotti.
We're joined today by Alan Sebreski, who is a brilliant guy.
He's taught at the Army War College.
He's been all over 9-11.
He's got a host of other issues.
I had a technical glitch.
Well, when I clicked into the studio, I couldn't get the sound, so I had to send him a new link, and right now we're sorting that out.
He should be joining us momentarily.
Meanwhile, I have Bill Bonatati here.
Bill has been very enthusiastic, looking forward to joining with Alan Sebroski.
He's been doing a lot of promotion.
Bill, you've been doing a fabulous job.
I think this X business is tailor-made for you, my friend.
Well, first let me say, when I first came into X about a month or so ago, I was getting hundreds of views per post.
It dropped down to tens, like 10, 20, 30.
So I was getting heavily shadow banned.
And I decided, well, what can I do here to try and beat the algorithm?
So what I do, if you see my site, I tried to organize it for this morning, but normally I'm reposting to the big platform content creators like Tucker, Elon, Colonel McGregor.
I have a list of about 21 of them.
And I send my post to them, which you can do through the app.
And then I drop my post in their comment section.
And I hope Alan can hear this or repeat it.
He's broken the record now between the three posts I put up.
There's almost over 220,000 views for this show.
So let's hope we get all you out there who viewed it.
Yeah.
And then for the other posts I put in related to the show, oh my God, Jim, I think I cracked a - Half a million.
I did a quick cursory count.
I think I'm over a half a million views from Ted.
Now, if I don't do that, and I put something in, I've experimented into my x-base, I'm down to 30, 40, 50 views.
So, all you out there who belong to X, who are getting Shadowbanned, however long they let this go on, until they straighten out their IT, right?
We can beat it for a while.
So hopefully we get a good audience today and revelers no more.
I sure hope we get Alan here momentarily, because he's such a terrific guy, and so many have been looking forward to this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's just a matter of time.
I'm sure you guys will work it out.
Do you want me to talk about some of my postings while you're doing that?
Yes.
So anyone who goes to the Italiano Clydesdale, or W Bonatati, at W Bonatati, Like, B-O-N-I-T-A-T-I, Italian on the clouds, Z-O-N-X, you'll see my site.
And at the top, there's Unsettled History, The Useful Abuse of the Holocaust, which is Alan Sebrowski's article in Veterans Today, where Alan Went public with this December 20th, 2022, with this article that's in Unst Review of Veterans Today.
You can even Google and see this, although I think the article is somewhat abbreviated in Google, but I haven't gone over all the different, you know, search engines, what they're putting up.
Alan would know better than me.
Okay, so Alan, carrying on with this, I I've lived a little bit here, but it's consistent with this future post on Zionists, basically lies, and basically the fall of the West.
And obviously we see the war crimes committed in the occupied territory of Gaza, which is collective punishment, which is a war crime.
They're supposed to be—they're occupying that territory, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know.
According to UN protocols, they're supposed to be protecting those people.
Let me say, I didn't serve in the military.
We see where the opposite's happening.
Jim, did you-- now, let me say, I didn't serve in the military.
Jim and Alan did.
So obviously, it would be great for me to not talk so much about Jim and Alan.
Tell me any comment, Jim?
JIM HANSON: Hey, hang on.
Alan, welcome.
Welcome to the Rodney.
Oh, this is a special show I do at Bill.
We call it Few Good Men, and you certainly qualify, my friend.
I just wanted to have you here.
I wanted to begin with... Go ahead.
I just had to bring BattleZoom to get on.
They must have my name on a very, very, very short list, because three times when I've tried to use Zoom in the last two months, gone through the same thing.
Five rounds of update, fail, update again, fail, update again.
Finally, I got into it, and then it said, browser doesn't work.
My browser doesn't work?
What do you mean?
Well, we're delighted to have you here.
Yeah, there was that technical glitch.
I got a problem.
I put on the Zoom that the audio from the radio station wouldn't connect, so I had to send you a second link.
That's why, you know, you got the... I'm delighted you're here.
I want to begin with... I am too, and it's good to... By the way, just so you guys both know, you're going to see me sort of tearing at intervals on this.
Wow!
Our glaucoma is getting really bad.
I'm completely blind in the right eye.
The left eye is going.
They have surgery scheduled for July 16th.
But one of the effects of it is that there's an intermittent tearing from one or both eyes.
So that's not an emotion.
It's just a reality, a physical reality.
Wow.
Well, Alan, you know, Putin has suggested a ceasefire in place, which I think would be wise for the West to accept.
But it's pretty clear the new world order cannot proceed without Ukraine.
And they're going all in no matter what the cost.
And that, of course, especially means to the West, to Europe, to America, no matter what the cost.
There has been the taking out of an early warning radar station that might leave Russia blind, where it's not capable of redundancies.
I'm sure Russia can anticipate a missile strike, but it certainly suggests that the West might be setting up for a nuclear launch against Russia, where, as you know, we changed our nuclear policy to allow for strikes, which was a very, very bad idea.
Now Russia has launched an anti-satellite satellite, where I would expect the first action when World War III breaks out would be taking out one another's satellites.
Could you comment on these developments and how you see this playing out?
Even though a doctrine suggests that a nuclear first strike is possible, Um, I really can't see us or any other nuclear power attacking a nuclear power with nuclear weapons as the first step.
You know, there would be intermediate steps building up to that, uh, taking out communication systems, keeping out air defense systems, do something like that.
Uh, not a first nuclear strike because for what, for one very simple reason, and I don't think anything has really changed since I played these games, my God, I mean, played these games as a strategist 40 years ago within the Defense Department.
You know, everyone talked about using the minimum force necessary to contain an enemy attack, both sides.
But to escalate rather than lose.
And the idea that you could attack a nuclear power with impunity is nonsense.
If we launched nukes on the Soviets before in those days, we expected them to retaliate.
If we launched nukes on Russia today, we can well expect them to retaliate in kind.
And that has to be something that's going to make the new world order plans for any type of a future in which they're dominant more or less irrelevant.
They'll be sitting on a nuclear ash heap.
Yeah.
What it does suggest is that NATO, that means us and whatever puppets we control over there, are preparing to become directly engaged with the Russians rather than indirectly through material mercenaries and money.
Thank you.
Yeah, there have been a fair number of NATO troops in Ukraine who have been taken out by the Russians and they were the equivalent of mercenaries, but they were there.
There have been some regular French troops, I think some regular German as well, you know.
Ukraine is the 2020s version of Spain 1930s.
Elaborate.
Yep, a laboratory and also a place for the For the opposing powers to fight without openly saying that they are fighting.
You know, the Soviets had troops and pilots in Spain fighting on the side of the government.
The Germans and Italians did too on the side of Franco and his people.
We're doing essentially the same thing against the Russians and whoever is backing the Russians with that side and with the Russians in Ukraine.
Think of Spain, 1930s.
You've got Ukraine, 2020s.
On the air for two hours.
Yeah.
Bill, I'm sure you have comments you want to toss in here about Ukraine and all this, but Ukraine didn't seem to have lost between 500 and a million troops.
The Russians, I'm going to guess, maybe 50,000, max 100 on the outside.
But they're making, it seems to me, they've simply overwhelmed Ukraine.
They don't have any forces left.
They're sending staff officers to the front line.
And you and I know, Alan, that's a desperate measure.
But one well and richly deserved by the staff officers.
Yeah, yeah.
I could not agree more in the case of Ukraine.
But I mean, that's obviously an act of desperation.
They're sending conscripts up to the line with no training at all, only to be wiped out, annihilated forthwith.
And the very idea that Jen Stoltenberg, who's a spokesman for NATO, would suggest that attacks deep inside Russia are justified seemed to me absolute lunacy, because he's going to invite taking out, say, the NATO headquarters in Brussels.
Give us a break!
But that would be a good thing.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm not joking.
As far as Europe is concerned, most of the European countries, if Brussels disappeared, it's now 70% migrant population anyway.
70% of the population of Brussels is migrants, as of now.
Really?
70%?
70%?
70%.
Yes, 70%.
70%.
That was made very clear about three or four weeks ago by a woman who spoke at a meeting of European parliamentarians, and she gave a list of the capital cities.
London is like 60%, Brussels is 70%, and you sort of went down on that.
I'm sorry, London was 60% non-white, 40% of those were migrants.
Brussels was 70% migrants, so if that's where the EU is, that's where NATO headquarters is, probably be a good thing if they disappeared.
Back in 1956, when I was 15, I went on a bicycle tour of England, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and France, was in Brussels, and, you know, visited many of the attractions, such as the statue of the little boy who's peeing into the pond, you know, just wonderful stuff.
I've made seven visits to London over the years, which has in the past been my favorite city, but the point you're making is all this Devastation, really, elimination of the character of these nations, I mean, by these mass flood of migrants.
They're permanently altering the demographics, Alan.
I think it's a travesty, a catastrophe, a cultural annihilation.
Your thoughts.
I want to bring Bill in for his.
Go.
Basically, Europe is gone and the United States is going, culturally, racially.
Barring some sort of an outside miracle, is the death of Western civilization.
And it is literally the only time I can recall, or recall reading about, because I'm not 2,000 years old, in history, where governments, multiple governments, have colluded in the destruction of their own civilization, their own culture, and their own race.
That's how I see it, too.
It's just absolutely stunning.
Bill, you're talking about these, including the mass migration.
But, Bill, Alan just asked me before I go to Bill, can Trump succeed if he is re-elected?
I mean, all the signs are moving in that direction, even if I have profound reservations, given his endorsement of genocide and the like.
Can he actually undertake a mass deportation program, or is that all just smoke and mirrors?
It's all bullshit.
He had a nine-point program in 2016.
He did none of them.
Nine of those ten points for his new administration are still there, and he won't do it again.
It's a faction fight between the neoconservative wing, all of whose leading candidates are bonded hip and thigh to Jewish money, Jewish media and Israel.
And the neoliberals who want to restructure America first and then continue doing it, who are also bonded hip and thigh to Jewish money, Jewish media and Israel.
He's not gonna change. - Just grotesque, Alan, that our country has been sold out and then you have the Speaker of the House inviting Netanyahu to address Congress during the genocide.
I'd liken this to inviting Hitler to address Congress during World War II.
In fact, that's unflattering to Hitler!
Hitler would have been a better idea.
Yes!
Bill, go ahead.
Join the fray.
Well, first of all, thanks for having me here with you great guys.
I'm standing on your shoulders trying to get the word out through X with Jim and I were talking.
Hi, Alan.
Pleasure to finally meet you.
Good to meet you.
My father was a US Navy airplane pilot of aircraft carriers, but he wouldn't speak with me about it.
So I get to actually he refused to talk.
So now I get to talk to some military guys.
Anyway, so As far as the geopolitics, I agree with Al 100%, Jim, and you and I talked about this before.
We can go back to 1956, the Rockefeller Special Studies Project.
It is the new, you know, like H.W.
said, you know, He put it into the vernacular.
It's a new world order.
We need a new world order, right?
Because it's all coming from there, isn't it, guys?
And obviously, the all wars are bankers' wars.
Robert Steele, God bless him, rest in peace, talked about that.
It's all about the money and the control and power.
They know no borders, from what I can see.
And so we have JPMorgan BlackRock talking about how they're going to rebuild Ukraine.
So is Russia going to really occupy it?
They've already talked about financing that, the central bankers.
And, you know, I always like to reference back to Albert Pike, Freemason, Confederate General, talking about Mazzini, the politician, about their plans for three wars.
And like, yeah, Allen's, I'm sure he's aware of that.
And what do you think?
Share my comments and I'll pass the ball back to you guys.
Well, Jim, you know, there's something that's ironic.
You know, I have a great love for historical fiction.
An alternate history, by the way.
It's one of my hidden secrets, so you two have got to get taken out by drones as soon as I finish talking.
There is a wonderful series, back when BBC did good things, called Sharpe's Rifles.
S-H-A-R-P-E.
It's about an Irishman who was serving in the British Army in the time of the Napoleonic Wars under Wellington.
The first episode, I got the whole series on DVDs and I started watching it because I'd seen scraps of it.
And the first episode, the very first episode, has Wellington talking to his intelligence officer and to Sharpe about the need to find their banker.
You know, they're out of money, they can't pay their troops.
This is in 1807, he hasn't yet become Wellington.
He's a star for Wellesley, then.
And he's talking to them.
This is opening on the BBC, in a so-called fictional series.
And he says, we have our banker in London, his name is Rothschild, and his cousin has control of a banking empire that runs from Lisbon to Vienna and beyond.
And the idea of this whole thing is the first episode is to save Rothschild and get that bank draft so they can pay their troops.
Early 19th century, 1807, 1808, even by then and before then, because obviously that banking network didn't just pop into being during the Napoleonic era, it had been growing obviously for decades, certainly possibly for centuries.
And that was it.
And that was the money That was the money that was needed to finance the war, and I would bet that if you went into Napoleon's coffers, you would find that he was dealing with a Rochelle banker in Paris to fund the French army in its conquests and wars.
You know, I used to think that it was an exaggeration when people quoted one of the Rochelle women on her deathbed in the late 19th century.
She said, you know, something, if my sons did not want wars, there would be none.
And I used to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I believe it now.
Over the years, I believe it.
That there's, you know, money finances all wars.
I don't care whether you talk about Crassus, the richest man in Europe, funding the wars back in the first century BCs of Rome, or coming up in the modern era.
But I can't think of a time when an interlocking family network has controlled all banking systems in all of the key countries, at least in the West.
Not sure about China, Japan, and India, but certainly in the West.
And that probably is the single explanation that being the control and the profit to be derived from loans, bank loans to countries, to governments, is probably the principal explanation for two world wars.
And for the Cold War.
And of course, we have the absurdity of paying interest to a consortium of private banks for printing the currency of the United States, which has led to the stratospheric national debt.
I mean, it's just absurdity.
Jack, of course, wanted to circumvent, have the Department of Treasury print United States notes.
I recall as a young Marine Corps officer holding one in my hand with a red embossed imprint.
It said United States note rather than Green Federal Reserve.
It's just absurd.
I never saw one of those.
It's been said that compound interest is the greatest evil ever designed by the hand of man.
I would say the 19th Amendment.
It gave women the right to vote.
Without the 19th Amendment, we wouldn't have Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley.
Nikki Haley just went to Israel and put an inscription on an artillery piece or a bomb, you know what I mean?
He's a lunatic.
And Trump seems to be aligned with her now, just as he is with Biden and all the other genocidalists.
Did you hear his call into Hannity where he was complaining about protesters, Alan, and saying about the genocide, it's horrible, but they got, it's a horrible job, but they got to do it.
They just have to do it quickly.
So his only complaint about the genocide, they weren't killing the Palestinians fast enough.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the thing that's about Gaza that's really, really intriguing is that they obviously underestimated the resistance capability of Hamas, you know, because they've been used to ending their wars and their incursions into Gaza, you know, in a matter of days.
This thing is just dragging on, heading toward ten months, you know, nine months right now.
And, you know, that's got to be making all of the countries around them take second and third and fourth looks at the capability of the Israeli military.
Because there is clearly no advantage to them, any more than there's any advantage to Russia in Ukraine, and this thing dragging on for months and months and years in the case of Russia and Ukraine.
Both of them planned on a swift strike, whatever else they were going to do.
And in Israel's case, the same for you.
The Palestinians out of Gaza, out of the West Bank, out of East Jerusalem.
And the only uncertainty was whether they'd let the Arab citizens of Israel, those holding Israeli passports, stay in Israel or expel them too.
But this thing is just dragged on, and the fact that it's dragging on, you know, I'm sure it's not being done deliberately by the Israelis, because they understand how they look outside by letting what used to be a five to ten day conflict go into months, five to ten months.
But it's just the fact that the U.S.
Congress, you know, makes a puppet seem absolutely independent with its slavish subservience to Israel and to the Jewish lobbies in the United States.
You know, you have to wonder just What goes through the minds of these people when they're doing it?
I'm talking the minds, the members of Congress.
Let's just take Congress and put the presidential people aside.
How did they go back at home at night and look in a mirror?
You know, that's really seriously, how did they do that?
When they have got to know, including the evangelicals who are the true believers, at least seem to be the true believers, or the Jews in Congress who are true believers for their side.
Those who are bribed, those who are blackmailed, those who are bullied.
How do they go back home and look in the mirror at night, realizing what they're doing and why they're doing it?
I can't fathom it.
It's never been more obvious that our Congress is Israeli-occupied territory, that the Biden admin is nothing but a puppet, though it didn't hesitate there momentarily about sending more weapons, without which they could not though it didn't hesitate there momentarily about sending more weapons, without which they could not continue the It's just grotesque once we come up with America.
Then you have RFK Jr.
saying he doesn't see any signs of genocidality.
Did you pick up on that?
Well, you know, the Biden administration is disgusting in many ways.
We'll be right back with Alan Sebroski, Bill Bonatati, and I right here.
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And now we return you to your host.
Well, this is Jim Petzler with my Wednesday co-host, Bill Bonitotti, and our very special feature guest, Alan Sobroski.
And Alan, you were talking about how Congress can go home and look themselves in the mirror.
I couldn't agree more.
If there's ever been anything distinctive to being American, in my judgment, it's been the ability to express your mind free from criticism, free from punishment, free from consequences on any subject whatsoever.
And now you have Trump even talking about punishing students who are protesting and even deporting them, sending them to Gaza so they can be taken out by the idea.
This is about as revolting an idea as I've ever heard.
That and the Congress's voting for this so-called Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, which is sort of cut from the same cloth by the same people as the Patriot Act.
One of the nasty little asides of it, although actually a better aside.
There were a couple of dozen House Republicans who voted against this, 21 House Republicans in fact, And I think that those should be considered the cadre, and the only cadre, of any possible new leadership this country should have, plus whatever any Republicans in the Senate who vote against it.
The Democrats, some will vote against it for different reasons.
None of which make them good leaders, because on every other issue they're very bad.
But on this one, this would be it, taking a look at it.
Incidentally, a couple of things quickly, just administrative.
I've received three warnings now that my internet connection is unstable, which is surprising.
I've got five out of five bars.
Just so you know, if I disappear from this, it isn't, I hope it's not a drone coming in, but it's probably going to be, it's probably just going to be a severance of the internet on it.
Also, I would appreciate it, Jim, if, also with deference to Bill, if you would tell the station that when your program airs, for the music, they should alternate playing the Marine Corps hymn and Anchors Aweigh in the background.
No, I want to get you in.
Go ahead, some of your thoughts.
Right, a lot of ground to cover there, guys, so I'll talk quickly.
Jim, you told me to slow down, but I got a lot.
Okay, so Gestell Snapper Rothschild, Alan, was the mother of the sons.
That was her name, and you're right, 100%, Amstel Rothschild, and he followed up, I'm paraphrasing best I can now by recollection, that he He cared not what puppets ruled the crown, give him control of the money, and basically he ruled the British Empire, and he did have control of the money.
And so then we have the letters between Albert Pike, 33 Degree Freemason, and Giuseppe Mazzini.
And I did, by the way, anything I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen, I always have corroborating evidence in my X space.
So if you go there, you would see like the notification for this show, describing Alan's piece in Veterans Today on Street View.
And you're still on Google, Alan, which I'm really surprised.
The YouTube use of the Holocaust.
You got some magic, man.
I don't know how you're hanging in there.
Well, it's probably because I'm a quarter Jewish.
My paternal grandmother was Jewish.
They give members of the tribe even what they call mishlings, which is mixed peoples.
They give them a little more latitude.
I had a-- Apparently.
Yeah.
So I've got to tell you a quick personal story.
Sorry.
You're a spoiler.
What can you do?
Go ahead, Bill.
It's your story.
I caught only parts of that, by the way, Al.
Jim, did you hear Al?
Well, we couldn't hear at all, but it's okay.
I just wanted to let him know he is being interrupted.
You know, they're making an exception for him.
I think he gets a quarter of the time he'd get if he were 100%.
Yeah.
Got it.
100%.
Yeah.
Got it.
That's it.
They're watching us.
Big brother, Uncle Sam.
They're here.
Hey, listen, Bill.
If Cosa Nostra ruled us, you'd be the one getting 100% free access.
Hey, you know, I got a good joke for that.
How do you know when you're in hell, guys?
Any idea?
How do you know when you're in hell?
When the cooks are British, the cops, the police are German, The mechanics are French and everything's ruled and organized by the Italians.
There is something like that.
There is that.
Here we are.
So it's the Italian Mafia and the Jewish Mafia that rule the world, don't you know, through the secret societies, the conspiracy JFK, right?
And so getting back to Mazzini, he talked about letters, Albert Pike to Mazzini, he It's not a prediction, it's a game plan for the three World Wars, and so there's a link to that.
I never know when I drop it into X where they're going to drop it, but it happens to be the third or fourth piece down.
I want to say from the top, Alan, you broke all records.
My posts on your shows, multiple times, and collective posts, which I always send you to your X space, has over 200,000 views.
your X space has over 200,000 views. - Wow. - Wow.
Worldwide, they know about you and X, you know?
What's that outside the window?
A flying broom?
Watch out!
It'll be a Jewish... Well, no, you're protected.
You'll be okay.
So, then I drop into, of course, our giant Ur-Sundell, because we're bringing in the Holocaust and And all that, which I'll put a pin in that for now, but I'm sure we'll be talking about that.
And so, but the idea, according to Albert Pike's letters to Mazzini, I'll open the link right now, and quickly, it's Albert Pike described to Mazzini, whoops, where did I do that?
I got a pop-up, and they want me to continue No, okay, continue through the web.
Okay.
So in there, ladies and gentlemen, you can find it, read it for yourself.
And there it is, describing the provocateur being the Illuminati, or some, as Bill Cooper called them, right?
Bill Cooper, and I always like to cite the rest in peace, Bill Cooper, and, and Ustas Mullins, who were good friends, right?
By the way, did you know those guys?
Both of you know them personally?
Did you ever meet any of those?
No.
So, anyone interested, check out their history, because they were calling this out early on, the goats who rest in peace, and how the wars would be initiated through the provocateur between the British and Germanic empires.
Go ahead, do it.
to ferment this war.
At the end of the war, communism will be built up and used in order to destroy the other governments in order to weaken their religions.
That's the First World War.
Second World War, I'll describe the layout.
Third World War.
Now, Jim, I don't want to hog the mic, so I'll just refer people to that unless you...
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Do it.
You want me to keep talking?
Okay.
Please, please.
All right.
All right.
So we have the Second World War.
I'm picking highlights out of the paragraph to keep it short.
Fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the fascists and the political Zionists.
Yes.
This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and the political Zionism will be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel and Palestine.
During the Second World War, international communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm, which would be the Third World War, must be fermented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and leaders of the Islamic world.
We're seeing it.
The war must be conducted in such a way Islam, the Arabic world, and the political Zionism, the state of Israel, mutually destroy each other.
Meanwhile, the other nations, once more divided on this issue, will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual, and economic exhaustion.
We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm With which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery, and the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere citizens obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitude delusioned with Christianity whose, I'm almost done, whose diastolic spirit
Will from the moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to manifest an accurate doctrine of Lucifer, that's all Luciferian, that Lucifer will rise and will rule I'll pin it there because it goes on.
But that's, that's the gist.
That's the plan, whether you believe it as they say the documents accurate and official.
33 degree Freemason, Albert Pike, and I just go to JFK 1961 speech before the press corps citing our true enemy, the secret societies that formed the monolithic conspiracy that that he found repugnant.
And Of course, we know everything he tried to do to get the Israeli government, the Zionists, moving to register with Congress as a foreign body, and all the things he was trying to do to fight the constructs, and we know what happened to him.
When was that letter written?
Let me go back, Al.
It's dated, let's see, Albert Pike, 33, August 15, 1871.
Jesus Christ.
Is he a prophet or a planner?
Well, he wrote Morals and Dogma, the 33 Freemasons.
You had the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, then you had Morals and Dogma.
They're both their main books that they go by.
Of course, the Arab states are in the earth.
They're not taking any moves at all to protect the Palestinians.
I find that rather startling now.
And what accounts for that?
Well, there's the leader of the Islamic community, or at least a major portion, but he has been all talk, no action.
I've just been appalled.
Well, there is no Islamic unity.
I mean, you know, there's various organizations, but there's no unified structure for any kind of a response.
Even when various Arab states fought Israel in different wars, they didn't have any coordinated strategy.
They didn't have any coordinated command structure.
They piled in one at a time or sometimes more than one at a time, but there wasn't any coherence or cohesion to it.
It would be as if everyone fighting a war decided to fight it independently.
It's a series of one-on-one conflicts, and it doesn't really go that well, and I think that's the same thing that you're finding right now.
These people aren't fools.
I mean, they understand that the real target of this from the beginning has always been Iran, and that Israel and its lobbies in the U.S.
and elsewhere want to get As many countries as they can to pile on Iran, so that Israel doesn't have to even get involved.
But that Iran goes, certainly as a coherent state, as an organized state.
And I think the others are just trying to keep out of the out of the bullseye.
Really.
And then they don't much care.
They haven't much cared about any of the when one of them gets attacked.
The others don't pile in on behalf of it.
They knew that the war on Iraq was a bullshit exercise, and yet there are as many Arab states either backing us or stepping outside of the conflict and staying neutral as doing anything else.
They just don't have that sense of unity.
And of course, demonizing Iran is absurd.
Iran may be the most peaceful great nation in the world.
They have not launched a war of aggression against another state since 1775, Alan. 1775!
The Constitution was ratified in 1787.
George Washington elected our first president in 1789.
So for longer than the United States has existed as a constitutional republic, Iran has not launched a war against another nation.
It has defended itself of necessity when attacked by Iraq with prodding from the United States, but it has not Been an aggressor.
That's been the role of the United States.
And if you want to classify the greatest terrorist nation, Iran doesn't even come close.
It's Israel and the U.S., without any doubt.
Unfortunately, that's true.
And I think both of us as former U.S.
Marines are both astonished and Greatly disappointed that that's the case.
I certainly never, never knew it or thought it when I was a young Marine back in 1959.
And I mentioned on, as I mentioned on another program, you know, the, the Marine Corps has gone so woke, so completely woke.
Cannot, cannot believe that it was the same Corps I served.
Alan, I don't think we have a military force to fight a war of any caliber.
I think that's where we may fall back on our nuclear arsenal because we can't handle anything else.
We cannot conduct conventional war.
There's also something to consider, that by weakening the regular U.S.
military, The government has made it more vulnerable to us.
To civilians.
Yeah.
Because there isn't an army to protect the national government.
Seriously.
I'm serious.
Yeah.
An army that can't wage a foreign war effectively can't wage a war against its own citizenry, you know, as Biden threatened to have it do.
Twice.
What's your take on the millions of migrants that constitute a NATO, I mean, a UN army?
I believe there are caches of weapons.
I tracked years ago how agencies that had no law enforcement role, EPA, for example, or the FDA, was spending stunning sums of money.
They bought a billion dollars worth of weapons, including hollow point ammunition in staggering quantities.
And I'm convinced there's Bill, let's hear you in it first.
around the country, and by giving these young men coming in with no families, who all appear to be trained militarily, with their cell phones, they're going to be able to coordinate where to pick them up, when to don their equipment, are they going to be blue helmets?
How do you see this playing out?
What's the role of the migrants?
Bill, let's hear you on it first.
Oh, hey, guys.
Well, I was looking up to give an overview to tie into the letter between Albert Pike and Mazzini, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and what Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote in his book about it.
The mind of a genius is pretty good for a hoax, wouldn't you say?
He wrote about the Elders of Zion and how this is all playing out.
Solzhenitsyn said, "...it exhibits great strength of thought and insight, its design, increasing freedom and liberalism, which is termed Terminated in social cataclysm, and we talked about the social cataclysm before, is well above the abilities of any ordinary mind.
It's more complicated than a nuclear bomb.
Anyway, so of course there's a lot of debate whether or not this is a fraud, this document or not, but Solzhenitsyn Seem to authenticate it.
So without so I think we're seeing it all play out and the logistics of it and geopolitics is a strategy is done strategically.
So I excuse me because I was searching for this and I did put in my xspace three different sites to find the one that you didn't need to sign up for go through any hoops.
So you'll find in the X space.
Again, I know when they're going to drop it in.
It's not by where I put it.
It'll show up anywhere in there.
So guys, I apologize, but I was not very attentive to exactly what you're both saying because I was trying to multitask.
You must be a Democrat.
- You must be a Democrat. - It's an invading army, that's certainly my suspicion.
Alan, yeah, your thoughts about, what are the migrants here for?
What the hell are they going to do?
Not just vote Democrat.
That's trivial.
They may want that, but they have a much larger purpose in addition to permanently altering the demographics of the United States.
Well, not only altering the demographics, and I don't consider them voting Democrat to be trivial, You know, the Democrats have stolen at least three elections, 2018, 2020, and 2022.
And they're certainly prepared to do it in 2024.
But I mean, to the extent that there's a difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, it may be a distinction without a difference.
But I think they'd prefer to avoid doing the same kind of blatant fraud that they did in 2020 as much as possible.
And that's the logic behind having them.
A lot of the migrants are from Central America.
They understand the concept of a Patron.
They know that the Democrats are the ones who brought them into the country and gave them a free ride.
And, of course, they'll vote for them.
And that would be easier for them to do than anything else.
Texas will flip blue in 2024.
Other red states will also flip blue.
The blue states that were swing states will no longer be swing states, they'll be solid blue, and that will make it easier to have a more open and less controversial electorally one-party government, one-party state.
That's not trivial.
The enforcement mechanism that comes afterwards and the point, I think, of these migrants is not so much to make them be an organized force, because as far as I can tell, whatever their background training and weaponry that may be available to them, there's no obvious organization or command and control structure, but to make it impossible for them to be removed, for them to be deported.
They come from more violent cultures than the United States, in most cases, I'm not quite sure how one excises roughly 18 to 21 million illegals in the United States.
How does one get them out?
They outnumber the regular forces, even if the regular forces wanted to fight them.
And I don't think the spirit of fighting them is there in the people.
That was pretty clear in the riots in 2020.
A lot of people wrung their hands and said, oh, this is terrible.
And when the J6 prisoners were thrown in unpleasant conditions, to put it mildly, after January 6th, no one did anything.
Absolutely no one did anything.
And so they're not, I don't see, I don't see the American people Doing anything more than treating their camouflage utilities and or fatigues, whichever service you're in, and their weaponry and ammunition is anything more than stage props.
I don't see them standing up and fighting.
That time has passed, but arming the migrants, having weapons available to the migrants who are already predisposed to fight to keep what they've been given, I think is beyond it.
And they're going to be roughly the unorganized militia of the deep state that takes control of the United States.
That's what they are.
I only meant trivial by comparison of taking up arms to assault the American people, but of course, yeah, I agree about that.
Yeah, yeah.
Non-citizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections.
Many states and locales are altering their laws to allow non-citizens to participate in local and even state elections.
I think it's inevitable they're going to work them into the federal mix at one point or another.
I mean, I can't see in California, for example, or in Dallas or Detroit or Baltimore, Democrat election officials having a migrant come in with a voter's card and saying, oh, you can only vote in state and local elections here.
They're going to go into the booth if they go in, or they're going to have a mail-in ballot.
They didn't check them before.
Why would they check them now?
And they're going to vote as they choose.
Of course, the Democrats don't actually have a candidate.
I mean, you've got the fake Biden.
There are at least three different actors playing Biden, some of which are wearing maybe all latex masks.
I mean, the real Joe appears to have died in 2017, based on my research.
Nobody likes Biden.
On his polling, he's probably in the single digits in terms of approval.
I don't believe he'll even be on the ticket.
I believe they're going to take him out.
I've suspected they'd replace him with Gavin Newsom and Michelle as his running mate.
Another speculation is Whitmer, No, I'm not disagreeing with that.
for coasting along while Trump becomes elected.
I take it you're not convinced Trump has been given the nod by the deep state, as my more recent reports would suggest, that Trump actually is going to be whisked in.
They've thrown Biden under the bus.
You don't.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
I'm disagreeing with the idea of disputing the notion, which is not your notion, but disputing the notion that Trump in office would do anything he's promised to do.
Yeah.
The promises are to assuage his voter base and keep any possible contender who might have an independent thought from having any chance.
Because look at the candidates.
Any one of the candidates, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Even Greg Abbott in Texas?
They're all on the same Zionist boat as Trump.
There's no difference.
There's really no difference.
It's just that Trump is more popular.
He's a showman.
He's a great showman.
He's a wonderful speaker.
And he rallies the base.
And not only rallies the base, but as long as he's there, people continue to say, there's a plan.
The plan is working.
Trump will do it.
Or some even say Trump has always been in control behind the scenes.
Yes, yes.
You know, all of this crap comes up.
So it serves both to keep any possible alternative from coming forward and as a political pacifier to a still heavily armed support base.
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Ellen, among the latest reports I have that the CIA collaborated with Bill Gates and the W.E.F.
in order to create the COVID vax, which Japan's leading cancer expert has described as a lethal wabbit.
What in God's name is going on here?
And what's the benefit of depopulating the planet so dramatically where Deagol projects that between 2020 and 2025, the U.S.
population will drop from 330 million to only 100.
Actually, another report had it down to 65.
What is the benefit?
Well, they're going to have to speed up because they're not There hasn't been any real decline in population, independent of the migrants.
I hadn't seen that report.
I literally pay no attention to anything on COVID, because there has been so much propaganda and so much disinformation from the government and the World Health Organization and private companies, and a lot of disinformation from people who oppose them, that I no longer watch it.
The only thing that I saw that was amusing is that flu cases dropped from eight figures to about 2,000 the first year of the COVID.
I thought, okay, now where did they all go?
Yeah, they went from $38 million to $2,000 because they reclassified $37,998,000 as COVID to create the false information of a pandemic to stampede.
For the Vax, actually, statistically, there was no increase in the death rate during the COVID era.
It was just like the flu, just what you would expect.
But from the Vax, Staggering.
Some estimates have a million in the U.S.
I believe, actually, worldwide it could be up to a billion, but it hasn't been as successful as they wanted.
And I'm suspicious as they want to do an instant replay, deja vu all over again with a bird flu.
And, of course, they're using a PCR The latest report I had on the PCR, a scientific analysis said it gave you a 97% inaccurate outcome, which is perfect for the bad guys, because they can set it to produce any outcome they want, and it looks scientific to an ignorant population such as the United States, and they think, oh, wow, well, they got a test for it.
Even though Kerry Mullins, who invented it, explained it wasn't diagnostic, it's merely to multiply a sample so you'd have more you could research.
Stunning stuff.
Well, if nothing else, you know, the main function of it, of course, was to legitimize, first to legitimize more government control, and second, of all, of course, to legitimize mail-in voting.
Yeah, mail-in voting.
The population, any population decline that occurred is just frosting on that cake.
You know, the goal, when you understand that the goal is political, not demographic, it's much easier to understand.
If you're right and the migrants aren't going away, that's going to have a devastating effect on American culture.
Do you not agree?
It's corrupt.
It's totally destroying it.
Yeah.
Destroying it culturally and racially completely.
The white population has dropped from 88% down to about 53% between 1940 and 2020.
And that was without the influx of migrants.
53% between 1940 and 2020.
And that was without the influx of migrants.
2.4 million migrants came in during Trump's years.
And you've got 18 to 21 million during Biden's years that we know about.
That we know about.
Biden's even said having a white minority in America is a good thing.
Yep.
And the anti-white racism going on is just appalling!
And all that diversity, they're putting incompetent people.
It turns out at UCLA Medical School, even half of those who are either in training or recently graduated were incompetent regarding elementary medical aspects as a consequence of the diversity movement.
And I think it's true.
Look at Alvin Bragg or Fannie Willis.
These people are utterly incompetent, but they got their position because of identity politics.
Unreal.
Yeah.
Well, guys, I want to go back to, we're going to weave this all together.
The Rockefeller Foundation, the Flexner Report, the turn of the century, propping up their drugs versus naturopathic schools.
They discredited them.
You got control through the UN, through the, also the World Health Organization.
It's about the world.
This is all integrated into the New World Order.
And you have Klaus Schwab talking about it.
You know, I'm very proud of my young global leaders.
Macron and Trudeau and Boris Johnson penetrated the world governments.
These are non elected officials.
All this is integrated.
It all plays into the framework we talked about earlier, in my opinion.
Also, you've got, jumping back to the NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Beijing Free Trade Agreement, the Asian Free Trade Agreement, the Trans-Pacific Pact, all destroying our economy.
Remember Ross Perot, who was actually, to be honest, the last guy I voted for.
I was raising votes for him in Santa Barbara-Colombia Boulevard.
With a booth on weekends who said, you know, NAFTA, NAFTA, you don't want that.
You're going to hear a giant sucker sign.
Our jobs are going to go to Mexico, then to Asia.
Well, this is all bipartisan enacted, you know, through the Congress.
And of course, Look what we saw happen.
We're all migrants coming in here, but the undocumented... I work in San Diego County in construction, certified by Caterpillar, operating heavy equipment on many, many sites, including federal Superfund sites.
Everywhere in Southern California, the labor board, the foreman knew, the labor board had no field officers anytime I made a complaint to do anything, because they then don't pay, they don't give you your time off you deserve.
And so, by contrast, when Shaw moved me up north, the wage was $20 an hour higher as an equipment operator, and all the The union protocols were maintained.
So this is all done intentionally.
Who owns those American companies that are profiteering From the undocumented workers that they hire.
They're American companies.
Trump, for example.
We can go from back to the Polish Brigade and Trump Towers to his hotel workers, both maintenance and cleaning.
And of course, when he's running for office, he's got to change, clean up all that and fire them, saying he didn't know.
He's just another Corporate American predatory capitalists who they've all been doing this Jim and all the job sites I was on in the restaurant business I worked in as a bartender and then in the hotels where I stayed national hotel chains.
I saw this all the time.
So this is all orchestrated, in my opinion.
Going back to January 6th, I'll wrap with this.
Russ Winter, Winterwatch, one of your good friends, Jim, and collaborators.
Check out anybody, Ashley Babbitt, and I just dropped in the XFeed.
Ashley Babbitt, false flag for January 6th.
That was all orchestrated, the third embedded video.
It's all organized.
She's a 14-year Air Force veteran.
She's walking amongst all the cops.
It's completely staged.
And not to mention what we saw come out from Tucker Carlson redacted.
Uh, Natalie and Clayton Morris, uh, regarding the shaman who was a six year naval veteran.
Um, now they invoke here's what do we do to get back our power?
Because we were defining the problems, right?
And let me just say, uh, they invoked a criminal code, uh, federal criminal code 18 section 15 12, which was the obstruction that then they were charging people who are simply trespassing.
Waved in by cops on the east side, no violence whatsoever, doors open, moving barricades aside, taking snapshots, whatever.
They waved them in.
That's trespassing the most.
But yet, if you're following the order of a police officer, how are you trespassing?
Was a cop arrested for waving you in?
If you're going to create an affirmative defense in your criminal case.
Now, the west side of the building was all the crisis acting, smoke machine, The whole works are all staged.
We had the feds say they there were so many people embedded with the feds, I lost count, which is impossible to have record.
If you recall the J6 commission investigations.
So, so what locally my suggestion I'll wrap with this is that we can go to our local courthouses, which I've done, I've been arrested four times to get every criminal case dropped.
It's a misdemeanor.
I actually never committed a crime, but this is a future show Jim and I can do on how to get criminal cases dropped.
So you don't have to worry about that 20-year charge that's all going to be dropped eventually that's being challenged in federal court on the criminal code 18 section 1512.
I think all that's most of that fabricated not to say there aren't some people prosecuted like I was but it's illegal and Jim and I've talked a lot about the corruption in the courts and how they're just Extortion racketeering acts for the predatory establishment.
So I know, Jim, I talk fast because I know I take up a lot of time trying to get to points.
Great, great, great stuff.
I'm sure Alan has thoughts about January 6th.
What a phony baloney stage.
Nancy Pelosi just happened to have her daughter's film crew right there in case something was worth filming.
Alan, it's just so insulting!
Yeah, the dumbest corporal in my company could have staged a better insurrection than happened on January 6.
In fact, he probably would have been embarrassed by January 6.
You know, it's actually not unbelievable, but it's fascinating to realize the gullibility of an American public Yes.
fed the story of January 6th that it has been fed by the U.S. government and not turn the D.C. jail into the Bastille in 1789.
Yes.
Burn it to the ground, break everyone out.
That's the end.
Yes.
And no one does anything.
No one has done anything for more than three years, which is why I don't believe they'll do anything about the migrants or anything else.
That was nothing else.
That was an up-in-your-face, six months of rioting, then a couple months break, then J6, and they took it.
The American people, supposedly, you know, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, well, the land of the not-so-free and the home of the not-very-brave and extremely gullible.
I don't know if it's the fact of fluoridating our water, which is a neurotoxin that actually kills brain cells, television preoccupation with cell phones, which have changed society in a dramatic way, made us much more atomized and restricted to a small circle of friends, video games.
Whatever all, and I know that American spirit, that patriotism, that dedication to the country seems to have disappeared, disintegrated, as thoroughly as Building 1 and 2 on 9-11 brought to us compliments of the CIA, the neocons, and the DOD, and the Mossad.
Yeah.
You forgot WTC7.
Yeah.
The planes, you know, if nothing else, the planes or whatever they were, were merely intended to be dramatic distractions to have people stop thinking.
And whatever happened in Shanksville, that was supposed to do the same thing for WTC7.
It just didn't make it.
Yeah, I've done a huge amount on all that.
You know, I founded Scholars Find Lemon Truth back in 2005.
Listen, I want to go back to this population thing.
I've had discussion with a colleague who has good intel connections, and he's suggesting the only way we could get from the 330 million to the 100, much less than 65, is an EMP.
That if we were set off over America, it would be devastating, knock out all of our electrics, our cars wouldn't work, our computers would be a loss, we would have no communication, we'd be distraught, only those who had self-sufficiency.
Gardens!
You know, Alan, in some places it's illegal to have a garden?
I mean, how incredible is that?
It can only be because they want us to starve to death.
Under conditions they're anticipating, as I see it.
Would you agree that the estimate from an EMP over the U.S., and this has long been known to be a hazard, and Congress has never done anything to harden our system against it, would bring about a decimation of 70 to 80% of the population.
That would do it.
That would fit the Deagle agenda.
I think it would be in the wrong sequence.
I think that the There's no point in taking control of a dying cow.
I mean, what do you get from a dying cow?
It dies.
Democrats as their enforcement arm want to take over and consolidate their control of a working system.
And demographic change is what will follow that.
It doesn't precede it.
There's no point in taking control of a dying cow.
I mean, what do you get from a dying cow?
It dies.
But if you have a healthy cow, then you can milk it for all it's worth and deal with its calves and the rest of the herd at the same time.
So it's a different, the same process, but a different sequence.
And if, if there's any way of preventing or delaying that acquisition and consolidation of political control of political power, then one also delays or postpones the demographic decline that's supposed to follow it.
And I think that in many cases, a lot of this discussion of demographic decline is like the red cape that Imagador waves in front of the bull.
People's eyes focus on that, and they miss the sword Which is the gaining of political control, which is actually going to kill them.
I think that's the sequence of it.
And it's really a normal way of doing things by people who are interested in changing, overthrowing, taking control of whatever phrase you want to use, a country, a political process.
Um, an article I'm just finishing is going to be sent off to the editors on a Sunday or Monday of this week.
Uh, there's, you know, back when I was in the 1960s, when I first got into studying psychological operations, psyops, you know, one of the things that was highlighted then was that amateurs talk about breaking the will of, of a population or an enemy.
Professionals understand that the important thing is to give them hope, which is what Trump is doing, for example.
Give them hope.
Because hope is the enemy of thought and action.
As long as people hope, and have hope that someone else is out there taking the lead, they stop thinking and they won't act.
Discussions one of those that's the hope thing is is taking place for the Republicans and the discussion of demographic decline.
I mean they're even with an EMP you can't go from 330 million to 60 million in a year.
Can't do it.
Maybe you could with a with a plague like the Black Plague you might be able to do but that's not parts And I think that's one of the things that we need to focus on, is that it is the acquisition of control, of political control, and the consolidation of that power, before anything else will happen.
And it's going to be not just in the United States, but it's going to be that consolidation in all the Western countries.
Can't have any outliers, you're going to have to do it simultaneously.
And that's going to take some time.
Repeat that again, Al.
It's so important what you're saying here.
I want to make sure we all understand the sequence as you see it unfolding here into the near future that's going to lead to, what, a Zionist domination of every nation?
Probably, at least in the West.
In the West.
They already have effective control of most of the Western countries.
They're the ones who have been funding all of the NGOs which have been shoving migrants into Europe and the United States from the Middle East and Africa, mostly into Europe, from Africa and Central America into the United States.
Almost all political parties, and I say almost all political parties and leading politicians in Europe and the United States and other countries, Many of the Latin American countries are either Jewish, which means Zionist in practical terms, or in thrall to Jewish money and Jewish media, and they support Israel.
Friends of Israel in both the Labour Party and the Conservative Party in Britain, for example, controlling group.
This is what's going on.
And I think before anything affecting demographics or conflicts occur, we will first see the consolidation of political control in at least Europe and the United States.
And when I include that, that includes Canada, Australia, New Zealand.
And then other things will follow.
Because doing it the other way around, gives them broken systems, and broken systems are hard to control.
You want a relatively functional system where you can gain control of it, and then if you choose to break it, you can.
And the primary mechanisms of control are going to be massive censorship, but also police-enforced design.
We already have massive censorship.
Yeah, we do.
We have massive censorship, massive control of the media.
Even if there was a candidate who had independence of thought and a willingness to confront There would be no way for them to get their message out.
that includes the neoconservatives who dominate the Republican politics and the neoliberals who dominate Democrat politics, there would be no way for them to get their message out.
In fact, most people wouldn't even know they exist.
This is, you know, I'm repeating myself here because it's something that I've said elsewhere, but you get different audiences with different programs.
I want you to repeat yourself, Alan.
This is so bloody important.
It's not easy to get our minds wrapped around it because it's just not the way we're looking at things for the most part.
I want you to be very emphatic.
Well, what we're talking about here, Between the Republicans and Democrats in the United States is a faction fight within a unified party.
And it's a faction fight much like that between Stalin and Trotsky within the early Soviet Union, like that between Zhou Enlai and the Red Guards in China in the 1960s.
between the neoconservatives who want the United States to stay relatively like it is now so it can be an effective instrument for Israel, Israel's favorite 800-pound gorilla, and the neoliberals who want to break down American society and rebuild it, still supporting Israel, and rebuild it to be what they see as a better weapon for Israel.
These are the two factions.
And that's all In control of community media, certainly most of the mainstream media, that anyone presenting a different message will have virtually no chance of reaching enough of the American people for that message to be heard, much less understood, and any coordinated action taken against it.
This is a bleak future, my friend.
Oh, that's the good news.
That's the good news!
The bad news is that there may not be anyone taking an independent stance against the Deep State and the Uniparty.
There may not be anyone left.
When you look around it, you see some interesting people out there who might appear, but getting the message out And getting enough people to understand it is going to be difficult.
That's why I think that the, whether you call it New World Order, the Deep State, the Democrats, call it whatever you will, you know, they don't want to push a confrontation yet.
Because there's still tens of millions of really heavily armed people, including millions of combat veterans out there.
who may be ignorant but are still able to fight and move.
They don't want to do anything which by accident would excite that group and incite them to move.
It's going to be a more gradual acquisition of political control.
The migrants are going to be a good way of facilitating that.
And the consolidation of political control We're actually moving that into such prominence that the possibility of insurrection is no longer there.
The possibility still exists today.
Very, very subtle and comprehensive, Alan.
Give us an awful lot to think about, but profoundly disturbing, because it appears to be virtually inevitable this will come to pass.
I think it is.
It is.
I think that the, you know, that the We'll take your calls right after this break.
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Well, the call-in number for Al and Bill and me is Zericode 611.
608-957-8727.
I repeat. Call in number for Alan, Bill, and me. 608-957-8727.
We do have a caller here, a frequent caller.
Brian, join the conversation.
Yeah, I'm not worried about all this stuff.
I know it sounds horrible, but you know, what they're doing, they're And you can read about this.
We're on the end of the age of the Kali Yuga, going into the age of Aquarius.
And there's a transition phase where they're vulnerable.
And what they've been trying to do is, the 5G towers, they're there to hack your brain.
Okay, they're trying to get our consciousness in that metaverse cloud so they can avoid justice, because when we get to that phase where we're going into the age of Aquarius, they're vulnerable, and they're going to be destroyed, and they're not able to do what they're trying to do, and eventually it's going to happen, and you're going to see them dropping dead everywhere.
And this is a result, and Brian, and Brian, and Brian, and this, this scenario is rooted in, what's the basis for your conjecture here?
Well, just ancient texts.
If you go through any of the ancient texts, the American Indians, you know, in India.
I mean, I don't read the books.
I just download from my higher self and then I get it that way.
But, you know, like I've talked about before, it's why they took the lead out of the paint.
They used to have lead in the glass, and then in the late 60s, early 70s, they took it out because these fucking cell or cell phone towers wouldn't work if you're in a house that's got lead in the paint under the windows.
So, you know, they were doing everything.
5G's just there to hack your brain.
Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, you're, you're, you're...
You got a lot of ideas, and they're very interesting ideas, but I don't see them as responsive to what Alan and Bill and I have been discussing here for the last hour and a half.
We've got a second caller here.
Let's see, 408.
Paul, is this you?
Frank?
Yes.
Paul, go ahead.
Yeah, thanks.
Yeah, the question is, is it me, as Brian Cranston said famously on Breaking Bad, goddamn right it's me.
I like, I like, I like this series.
Breaking Bad is brilliant.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting that some of the stuff that Brian says, I gotta Maybe lay down the law here.
So, fuck all that shit about the Kali Yuga and the Age of Aquarius and all this other stupid nonsense.
Paul, Paul, Paul, just get to the point.
Leave Brian's thoughts aside and give us yours.
Yeah, I'm making a point, okay?
It's like all nonsense BS.
This is a racial war.
That's all it's ever been, okay?
And unless we are strong racially, we're going to lose.
It's that simple.
And I'll just pose a question to all you people here to demonstrate what I'm calling this racial weakness that Alan pointed out when he said that, you know, that people are just, you know, all their camos and their guns are just staged props.
I don't really disagree with that.
I take a little, I chase a little bit at it because of the fact that the government so-called has become our enemy.
Very clear.
So we're not going to just have to fight, quote, the migrants.
We're not going to really have to fight that many of them, but we're going to need to kill them or deport them.
But we're going to have to fight our government.
But let me pose a question just for the fun of it to you, Jim, to Bill, and to Alan.
This is just obviously hypothetical, but I think it'll demonstrate something about where your mind is at.
You have two choices and two choices only.
There are no other choices.
There's not a third choice.
You have a button in front of you.
And the button will disintegrate all these non-white migrants that have come into this country.
The other choice is we do nothing.
OK?
So, are you going to press the button, Jim, if the only choice is they stay and live out whatever lives they're going to live here, or you disintegrate them?
Are you going to press the button?
I'm going to press the button, Paul.
Yeah, I am.
I think it's so destructive to America.
They don't belong here.
They're not here properly.
It's going to have devastating effects.
I would press the button.
Awesome!
I'm so fucking surprised and impressed.
How about you, Bill?
Are you going to press that button?
No, I don't agree with you, Paul.
I think that the problem is the class warfare coming from the bankers.
They are generating this.
People who were all immigrants, we could work and live and work together in a multi-plural society, I believe.
But they won't allow that.
They're creating the right-left divide.
They're orchestrating this whole matter.
And so, I mean, without getting deeper into it, no, I would say then why not wipe out the Italians or the Irish, whether they're immigrants, or pick one?
Because the Italians and the Irish are white, Bill.
This is a thought experiment.
Bill, go ahead.
Alan, did you want to address?
Well, I see three buttons, not two, or at least one of the buttons, the two-step one.
You do the government first, then you do the migrants.
Shouldn't hear.
Government!
He said government first, then the migrants.
Take out the government first, then the migrants.
Oh, okay.
Okay, cool, fine.
Yeah, I mean, considering the issue, right?
And, I mean, Bill, I appreciate what you're saying, but this has got nothing to do with class, all right?
These people, they, the ones that are running the show, they may be slightly interested in class, okay?
But most of them, they're interested in race, and that's why they are I mean, it's very difficult for quite a long time anyway.
You could talk to anybody who knows anything about the immigration issue.
It's been quite difficult for Europeans to immigrate here.
They make it difficult for Germans and English and Swedes and Norwegians to come here, but of course, it's a free-for-all for all the browns and the blacks that they're bringing in, and a lot of the Asians as well.
So we're being overrun.
Worldwide, whites are a very small percentage of the population.
But they want to make sure that in our own country, we're going to be a minority.
They talk openly about it.
The politicians that they employ, the politicians that they bribe and that they own talk openly about it.
So it's a war.
It's that simple.
It's a war.
And we have to be willing to wipe them out.
But I don't think that there's any I think I don't think there's any shortage of Americans that they may not feel as radically as I do.
OK, but I don't think there's any shortage of Americans that be willing to get downtown the way that we used to in the past.
Unfortunately, again, this society has been set up where people are comfortable.
It's just appalling because if we simply adopted the migration policies of Mexico, we'd be so much better off.
Well, you have to satisfy two conditions.
You must be able to show you have something to contribute to the good of Mexico.
Carpenter, plumber, doctor, whatever.
You must have the financial resources to support yourself and family members so you do not become a burden on the state.
If we simply adopt those two very rational principles, we wouldn't have this problem.
I just cannot believe how we allow an open border.
It's insane.
Alan, I want your thoughts.
One of the interesting things, while it's very difficult for Europeans to come into the United States, We got a little freeze there.
Alan, please continue.
In the late 20s, early 30s, husband, wife, two children, and they were going to Pedaguay.
They were going to Pedaguay, and the husband and wife had been down there to look at it, and they were So, there are towns in Paraguay, and they mentioned also Uruguay, Chile, Argentina, and Ecuador, which look like European towns.
German towns, particularly, was the reason that this couple and their children were going to go to Paraguay, and they've been there since the late 19th century.
He was speaking in German to his to his interviewer, and he said, you know, it was like I was, except for the red tile roofs, it was like I was in a town in Bavaria.
It looked like that.
Most of the people there were German and German descent, and that apparently there's obviously some fairly large German and Italian and Irish populations in Argentina.
Similar mixes, more German and Irish in Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, and Ecuador.
But they're settling in there because this has become essentially that Southern Cone in South America has become essentially a place of refuge for Europeans that can't come to the United States and don't want to stay in Europe.
And this guy said basically, and he's speaking in German, he said, Germany's destroyed.
And he's the same with other European countries.
And if we can't come to America, This is a place we can go.
Now, that lowers them on the target list.
They'll eventually be targets as well.
But at least this is a place they can go for refuge.
And if you can be a refuge, you can be a readout, as in R-E-D-O-U-B-T.
So this is, of course, all understandably both in terms, understandable in terms both economics and race, right?
But this is They're forcing us to become refugees, leaving our homelands, Europe.
There's Americans, of course, that are leaving.
Many of the reasons Americans are leaving are economic, right?
It's sort of like when you see the urban versus the suburban versus semi-rural versus rural.
It's all about fleeing diversity.
Basically, people flee diversity as quick as they can.
So until we can make a stand and fight, we may end up disappearing.
I don't want to see it.
And the bottom line is, uh, you know, there's a lot of people that feel, uh, in a similar way that I do, you know, very hardcore as you, but I mean, there's a lot of residents on other places that I go on, uh, different, different platforms.
Right.
But you know, how, how many of, uh, of us are there?
I don't know for sure, but, uh, we're all, we have to chill put into us, uh, in terms of acting out on this because of the fact that we know we're going to have to fight members of our own race as well.
Because there's a lot of brainwashing.
Particularly women, particularly young women.
One of the things that actually appalled me is that in the 2022 election, the single demographic, which is the biggest supporter of the Democrats and their left-wing policies, woke policies, call it whatever you will, were single
The minute that you made it acceptable and this started in it's a gradual process but it didn't take them all that long it really started in the 60s and then of course became more heavy-handed the minute that you make it okay to date and marry outside your race or the minute you make it okay for people to say oh I'm not a racist, right?
That's the beginning of the end.
I mean, the Germans got it correct.
It's unfortunate.
This is the way the world is.
But the Germans, all they did, the National Socialists, is they recognized nature, they recognized racial realities.
And we basically, they needed to take over so they could have their own propaganda.
And that's what we need.
We're being propagandized by an alien enemy that wants to see our race come to an end.
And they don't care about the blending of races because they just want to rule over this consumer mass.
And remember that the primary target, there are five principal advertising conglomerates in the Western world, three in the United States, one each in Britain and France, all Jewish dominated, all of them.
And that the primary target of their propaganda, as you said, from the 1960s on, White women.
That was the target.
Historically, it bears pointing out, should have no political voice and did not have a political voice.
That was step one, giving them the right to vote or giving them any rights, to be honest with you.
There is a book that was written in the 1930s by an Oxford Don, his name was Unwin, U-N-W-I-N.
It's called Sex and Culture.
I think the caller might really be interested in reading it.
You can still find copies of it.
In fact, I bought a copy last fall when someone else brought it to my attention on Ron Nutz's platform.
And he studied, this is a 700-odd pages, half of it bibliography and endnotes, but he studied several hundred cultures all around the world.
He found very few had ever given women Both political rights and sexual freedom that all cultures, every single culture that did that collapsed within three generations.
Ours is now in its third generation.
And we are collapsing.
Paul, what do you foresee in the next short term, you know, the next couple of years?
What are things going to happen?
Alan, I interpret things, because that's going to get gradualistically worse and worse.
We're going to see the trends that prevail now continue.
He's suggesting there's no real difference between the Democrats and the Republican.
Trump seems to have gone all in with his Zionist agenda.
Your thoughts?
Well, yeah.
Thanks for that reference, by the way, Alan.
I'm familiar with the book.
I don't have it and I have not read extensively in it, but there are excerpts of it online.
So, Jim, you know, I don't know.
We're all just guessing here at the pace of things to come.
But I can't.
I think there's going to be a general awakening that Trump is not the answer.
And there already is amongst those.
I mean, there's certainly going to be a huge core of supporters that they don't know what the score is.
Or even if they have glimpses of what Trump really is, they're in denial.
I know several of these people, and they just don't want to hear it.
If I try to talk to them, tell them what Trump really is and who he really works for, they don't want to believe it.
So they want to believe in the left-right paradigm, Democrat, Republican.
That's going to linger for quite a while.
Well, I think, look, I think Trump is a shoo-in to be re-elected because it just takes too long for too many.
But what are the options anyway?
I mean, RFK Jr.
is saying he doesn't even see signs of genocide there.
He appears to be very weak, not of the same kind as his father and his uncle.
And Biden, obviously, is a non-entity.
They're going to replace him before the election.
It's not exactly clear with whom.
I have thought Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer probably are the two leading candidates.
Your thoughts?
OK, well, we'll see what you just said, but in answer to your question about what are the options, William Luther Pierce said it many times in his dissident radio broadcast.
He was basically shocked that there had not been any wave of political assassinations.
So as much as people want to pay attention to politics, which I believe is a fool's errand, I've told people for years, don't vote, don't file an income tax return, don't use major bank credit cards, do all these things you can to drop out.
Now people are in general not willing to do that.
They don't want to give up their comfort and their security and they're in fear of disobedience.
Unfortunately, the nonviolent option won't be an option because people are generally afraid to disobey or to not participate.
So having said that, the only option, in my opinion, is what William Pierce talked about, which was a wave of political assassinations.
And then maybe we can think about resetting the table.
Um, you know, but people cannot take seriously, uh, you know, these, I mean, you heard what Lindsey Graham has said or recently has been saying about Israel and all these other Lunatic.
Yeah.
Nuking Gaza, for example.
Yeah.
It's just that these people are, it's a joke.
And the average American person, I think to their credit, because of the internet and because of shows like this are starting to wake up.
Will it be enough in time, and will we be ready to be sufficiently violent when we need to be?
Because the bottom line is that these people count on the fact that we won't be violent enough to stop this.
That's the only thing that's going to stop it.
They have the money, they have the political apparatus, and they have the media.
So if you have the media, the political apparatus, and all the money in the world, how can you be stopped?
And they worry about the guns.
They worry about the guns.
I think you've got to basically ride ball.
Bill, I want to get a couple of minutes of final reflections, more from Alan, perhaps.
Yeah, please, Alan.
Please do.
Okay, Paul, if you're still online, drop me an email.
Any one of my published articles has the email address at the bottom of it.
Do send me an email and mention the show.
I want to start exchanging things with you.
Very good, Paul.
Okay.
Very good.
Bill, give us some final thoughts here of today's conversation with Alan.
Well, I appreciate everything.
I have my differences, obviously.
I want to mention before I run out of time... Differences?
Differences... to the lions!
Okay.
Before we run out of time, we have a Jim Fetzer Posse Raw Deal xSpace.
That's Saturdays.
I start it at 1 p.m.
Eastern Time, and Jim comes in around Tuesdays as long as he can.
Alan, consider we're there.
We'd love to have you come in and, Paul, expand the conversation, and hopefully we can do this again.
I'd love to do this again here on the Raw Deal.
I did promote the show through AXS, Alan talking about your work on the useful abuse of the Holocaust and how it plays into the present.
I've heard you talk extensively about that and Zionism, and hopefully we can expand on that some more.
I think this is all orchestrated by the, as We talked about earlier the Zionists and the Jews and the Italians working together, and the Jesuits through the city of London, the Vatican, and D.C., and everything we talked about from the Protocols of Zion to the Rockefeller Strategic Studies in 1956.
So this has all been orchestrated.
I know people who are different ethnicities, different colors.
I grew up in Bridgeport.
The school was minority.
I was a minority.
It was 70% minorities.
I had some great friends and people who intermarried.
I see things differently from my experience here in Bridgeport.
The problem wasn't that.
It was the outsourcing where Bridgeport is a sacrifice zone as Chris Hedges cites the Farewell America tour.
So I just perceive it differently.
And I think that that's what's really happening from the top down.
And you know, all I can do is say, My part, and then we can agree to disagree.
Hopefully we can expand on this.
It went by so fast.
I'm really grateful that I had a chance to participate with everybody.
Yes, yes, yes.
Excellent, Bill.
Alan, give us just a summary overview of what you think Americans should understand about where we are today.
The critical thing I think to understand, and this is why I'm so pessimistic, Um, is that 2020 was a fork in the road, and we took the wrong fork.
That was not, not in terms of the election or the rest of them, you know, electing one puppet over another puppet really doesn't make a great deal of difference.
But during the six months of rioting, when Trump did nothing, absolutely nothing, When he had the constitutional responsibility and the statutory power to do it, he did absolutely nothing.
That was when, if we, the people, were ever going to stand up, that is when we should have stood up and we didn't.
And that path can't be walked back.
Do we need to take a stand against the government?
I would say so.
Government first.
The government is the one who's bringing the migrants in.
It's paying for it.
It's facilitating the movement into the country and around the country.
But I don't see any reasonable prospect for a population that wouldn't take a stand against rioting, looting, arson, mayhem, and murder, and then later the imprisonment of hundreds of innocent people for doing nothing.
I don't see that population taking a stand now.
There might be a few who will, But I expect it's more like the Alamo where Houston's already been defeated.
You know, the people just took a stand at the Alamo, knowing that Houston's army was out there and that there was a chance for something to come back.
Well, we're in a position, if the people had been at the Alamo and knew that Houston had already surrendered, that's where we are.
That is very distressing, of course.
I mean, in the wake of the George Floyd, it was a phony event that was used to precipitate the summer of love.
Mostly peaceful process involving rioting, looting, arson, where the Democrats were encouraging this to take place on American streets and doing absolutely nothing about it.
Yeah.
Alan, I think you may have it right that that was the time, that was the test, and we failed?
Well, there's one good thing about that.
Since the Democrats endorsed and encouraged it, that's the very low bar that we have to step over.
You know, anything that we might do in response to them that falls within that matrix has got to be legitimate.
They said it was okay.
I'll just, if I might, one small note of optimism.
So I think it's what has occurred is that we've become reliant on the government.
So in other words, the self-reliance that made, you know, quote, this country that allowed us to conquer the frontier and to conquer the Indians, right?
That's gone and been replaced by what I call a government reliance in terms of also the economy, right?
The distribution of food and material goods becomes very, very easy and convenient.
But I think within our racial soul, we still have what it takes.
It's just the government has to go and there has to be chaos.
I'm one of those people that's known as an accelerationist.
I'm sure Alex heard that term.
I do.
I have.
I didn't know about it easily, but I do realize now that the enemy of what we need to do is comfort and reliance that somebody else is going to do something.
So, when that goes by the wayside, there's a possibility we still have.
Alan, final thought?
Final thought?
I think that it may be a forlorn hope, but if we have to fight, let's do it.
Yeah, man.
And not with enthusiasm.
I served this country my entire adult life from 17 years old in the Marines on up for the last 60 odd years, and I don't like the prospect of it, but I think we have to realize that we simply do not hate the government as much as it deserves to be hated.
Alan, we admire you.
We're so grateful you could join us.
Thank you, Bill.
Thank you, Paul.
Thank you, Brian.
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