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May 26, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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Real Deal SPECIAL REPORT (26 May 2024) with Victor-Hugo Vaca Jr.
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All right, so here we go.
Hi, this is the Maverick artist Victor Hugo reporting Modern Art Gonzo Journalism for the Modern Art Music Movement.
It is May 26, 2024.
Reporting from the former Soviet Union, Republic of Georgia, near the border with Russia, Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.
My job is not to be politically correct.
It is to witness, observe, analyze, and document the beautiful chaos that surrounds us all so that future generations can understand how we got to this moment in time where I am joined by Dr. Jim Fetzer, and we are going to get right into it.
There's so much going on in the world today.
Jim, how are you?
Good, Victor.
The latest uncertainty is that the Speaker of the House is invited.
This Gaza genocidalist to address the Congress, which I liken to inviting Adolf Hitler to address Congress during World War II!
What an absurdity!
What an absurdity!
The incredible thing is that what you just said would be considered anti-Semitic, but it's just... You know?
I mean, the United States has completely lost the plot.
The whole world is scratching its head and going, what is going on there?
The Israelis are treating the Palestinians far more brutally and sadistically than the Germans treated the Jews in World War II.
It's shocking!
Well, with all due respect, and we completely understand that, but the world realizes that Israel is treating the United Slaves of America even worse.
Naomi Wolf was just on Alex Jones, and she admitted, as a Jew herself, that what's happening right now Yeah.
is worse than the Holocaust in the United States, and that the United States and the West was targeted with these bioweapons disguised as vaccines as a depopulation plan, and also to make sure that the women are infertile and that the men are infertile.
And this is something that Israel knew, that Pfizer knows, that Moderna knew.
And when you go to the top, it's the Jews.
And I've been saying, and people around the world have been saying, because they're realizing there is a Jewish problem.
And it appears that...
The United Slaves of America don't realize that, and that there are people who are compromised, like Mike Johnson, are doubling down on this, and they're inviting these people who are quite literally destroying the United States of America into Congress.
How do you feel about that?
I mean, again, we know that there is a slaughter going on in Palestine, but do you not realize that they're killing you in the United States of America, too?
Oh, 100%.
The whole pandemic was a complete fraud.
They seem to want to do an instant replay with bird flu now.
It's all ridiculous from a scientific medical point of view.
There were 38 million cases of the flu the year before, and the following only 2,000, because they converted 37,998,000 into COVID!
37,998,000 into COVID, instant pandemic.
It was all fraudulent.
There was no increase in death rates in any age group until they introduced the vaccine.
Of course, it's been devastating.
The data out of the UK is more reliable than the data in the US because they're actually honest in their reporting with a public health service in England, unlike the CDC and the FDA here in the USA.
Terrible.
And do you believe they knew in Israel then, with the facts they'd given in Israel then, one that did not compromise the fertility of the citizens there?
Because Israel was reported to be the most vaxed country in the world, but then you ought to have the highest number of sudden deaths, and I don't get the impression that's taking place.
No, because the ones that were immune to that, and you could verify this, were the Amish and the Ashkenazi Jews.
It's a race-specific bioweapon.
Now, this was told to me when I was living in China.
I want to make sure that the United Slaves of Israel realize that the Chinese knew about this plan, and so did the Russians, just like the Chinese and the Russians knew about the September 11, 2001 attack.
They're just sitting back because they're allowing the United Slaves of Israel to kill themselves and they're waiting for the soldiers to come anywhere near Russia because since they've all been injected with the nanotech, They're sitting ducks, and they're going to be totally located and blown up when they get there.
Now, the thing is, there's been treason at the highest levels of the U.S.
military because they forced the soldiers to take this.
They knew damn well what they were doing, because this was a DARPA plan, and they were more than happy to facilitate it in Wuhan, China.
Because I mean, listen, if your enemy comes up to you and says, hey, listen, we want you to help us destroy ourselves.
Well, then sure.
Now, my question to you as a family man is speaking to the fathers and mothers that are living around you in the United States.
Those of us who know what's going on, and those of us who know that it's just a matter of time, and I'm hearing chatter that June is gonna be a really bad month in the United States.
How do you feel?
Do you feel a sense of urgency of getting out?
Do you feel a sense of doom?
Or do you feel like, I don't even, I can't even imagine what it must be like to have children, knowing that you guys are sitting ducks, man.
Well, it's...
Really difficult for me because I was telling my family not to take the vax and they went ahead and took the vax without notifying me because they knew how strongly I would oppose it.
We're starting to see some manifestations, problems in my 17-year-old grandson and my My son-in-law that oughtn't to be experiencing an individual this age, gastrointestinal, you know, we'll see how it plays out.
I would like to believe that because of the area we're in, and it was all different batches, you know, maybe Madison already being so super liberal, they were Feeling we were already sufficiently compliant sheep that we didn't need to be exterminated, but I'm holding my breath, hope against hope, that it doesn't get more serious.
You're saying June is going to be a deadly month for America?
None of this would surprise me, Victor Hugo.
None of this would surprise me.
And when I hear you say that, and I'm noticing this from other people that I speak to in the United States, particularly the ones that have been jabbed or have family or friends that have been jabbed and died, there's a sense of anger growing.
And what I'm noticing is they seem to be taking it out on people like you and I who are warning them.
Like, somehow they're angry at us, but they're not angry at the people that are actually killing them.
Why do you suppose that is?
Like, they're mad at me because I was telling them, hey, listen, it's a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine.
But they're not mad at Borla, Fauci's running around.
I don't understand.
These are people who ought to be hanging from lampposts, after all, for God's sake, what they're doing.
They did the mass murder right here.
Bibi may be more blatant in the slaughter in Gaza, but a massacre is taking place here in the U.S.
at the end of a needle.
You're 100% right, VH, 100% right.
And like psychologically, from a psychological point of view, because even when I heard you describe your situation, it's almost like a Stockholm syndrome, like you're just accepting it.
Well, you know, my My 17 year old grandson has this and the other with the gut.
It's like you're almost making excuses for it when you know this isn't something normal.
You know exactly what happened.
So why are people doing that?
Categorize me.
I'm not even supposed to talk about political issues, much less these devastating events around the family.
I mean, I love them dearly.
They love me, but it's a very strange phenomenon.
It's like they're mentally blocked off.
form a deflection.
They don't wanna hear anything that contests with their deeply held beliefs.
And we know this is a widely spread phenomenon.
And it's ironic, 'cause you and I do our best to get the truth out.
And if we can't even get the truth out, in my case, to my own family, it's very disturbing.
I mean, I'm reaching a lot of people, but not them. - My God.
I almost feel like it's a sense of helplessness Do you feel helpless?
Oh, God, yeah.
Sure.
Fuck.
I mean, I'm harmed.
I mean, I'm ready.
I'm locked and loaded.
I'm a former Marine Corps officer.
I've acquired what I think I would need.
Make a contribution to defending the home or taking out the enemy, but I tell you, the force is allied against us.
I think most Americans feel that way, Victor, sad to say, as though there's not a hell of a lot they can do about it.
They're used to the government acting on behalf of the American people.
We've never had a situation where the government was out to destroy America.
And with the open borders and non-prosecution of crimes and defunding the police and promoting the vax and transgender, all the other happy horse shit for little kids.
I mean, it's appalling what's going on here.
I think the Russians are much more resilient because they've had to deal with real war.
See, America, we never had a real war here.
I mean, we may have wiped out the Indians, but that wasn't really a fair fight.
And because we've not had to battle on our own territory, I think we're in a position of utter unpreparedness to deal with what's coming.
And I guarantee you it is coming.
I mean, I see it as clearly as you.
But you're not nervous?
What's to be nervous about?
You know, I mean, it's, what's going to happen is going to happen.
I'm going to do my best to go, but that doesn't protect my family.
I'm actually worried that what's going to happen.
You, you may well be aware of the Deagle report about the U S population between 20 and 25 going from 330 million.
It was actually as low as 65.
Yeah.
Maybe back to, Well, maybe the only way that could happen is by an EMP, which would be calculated, estimated to take out 70% of the population in relatively short order, because with all the electronics, cars won't run, refrigeration gone, no internet.
Bones, I think, will also be out.
I mean, we're going to be in a desperate plight, and there's going to be a lot of looting and murder, and it's going to grow out from the urban centers.
I think this is most likely to be what's going to happen.
Yeah, I think the United States is in for a situation that they could never have believed, and I think what's taking everybody off guard is, like you said, it's Their own government that's killing them.
And what the world is seeing, by the way, just so you know, the world sees the United Slaves of Israel now as Palestine.
And it's really interesting that Benjamin Netanyahu is going to Congress to speak to Congress because he is really the commander in chief and the president of the United States of Israel.
I've said that many times.
I mean, this Biden is just a fake.
There actually are three or four of them wearing masks and the like.
The real Joe appears to have died in 2017.
And even the media hasn't been calling it out.
They gotta know damn well this is not the real guy.
And I've said many, many times, if you all want to understand what's going on here, just assume Netanyahu is our president for foreign relations and Soros for domestic.
And then did all the pieces fall into place?
Because this is their dream.
I can tell you what's so bizarre is that being here surrounded by the Russians and when I was in China and I just see there's People from all over, because this is a gateway country.
Everybody's calm.
They know.
That the U.S.
military is so depleted by design.
They sent all their stuff to the Ukraine.
Their aircraft carriers are white elephants, they're called.
Because America's greatest ally, Israel, sold all the secrets to China and to Russia.
So those poor guys that are on those aircraft carriers, they're defenseless.
The moment that they send these supersonic missiles, those are destroyed.
And the moment that the United States tries to do anything as far as nuclear bombs, Russia's already got submarines close to the United States, and so does China.
So the United States is surrounded, and not only that, but the United States is surrounded by Secret sleeper cells.
When I was in China, the Huaipingwang army were bragging to me because they were trying to recruit me to be a trader, and they were telling me how they were infiltrating the United States using the system.
And they were literally sending me images, and I was sharing all this stuff on my podcast.
Yeah.
And when I contacted the State Department and I contacted the U.S.
government all the way up to the White House, They just turned a blind eye.
So that is when I realized that the government was in on it.
This is tremendously helpful to me to see how you as an outsider are looking at it.
Very, very helpful, Victor.
I can't begin to tell you.
I really like this.
Let me go back to the micro...
Are they going to bring about instant death at a certain frequency?
Is that what they're designed to do?
You use the word explode.
Are they literally going to explode the soldiers?
Yeah, because I did an interview with Mark Steele and he explained how it works with the 5G technology and also with the satellites and they can actually tell exactly whether they can pinpoint them and they're even doing that now with the drones.
This is a whole nother, it's fifth generation warfare.
I'm just asking, how does it induce death?
I mean, do the bodies actually explode or what?
Are they just going to drop dead?
No, what happens is they can actually see on the monitor where the people are because it's like they can tell where your cell phone is.
Or you're telling me then for conventional to be killed by drones or so forth, you don't think they can activate something inside the Vax?
You're not saying they can activate something inside?
I've had one theory advance that at a certain frequency, these microorganisms and entities in the Vax become activated and the soldiers just drop dead.
I mean, you know, you're instantly dead.
I mean, that was my question.
From what I understand, they're going to use that in the cities, in the big cities that have the 5G in the United States, to create zombies.
Because what's going to happen is the frequencies are going to create these people where they're going to... You remember what happened in Rwanda, where they started attacking each other?
They're going to do the same thing in the United States.
That's going to override the martial law.
And allow the military, which are now going to be infiltrated with foreigners who have no alliance to the Americans.
And they're just going to be able to start shooting people because once you start people being cannibalistic, that's why they were doing the training for the zombies.
The CDC and the military had zombie training operations.
That wasn't a joke.
A lot of people thought that was a joke, but believe me, they don't do those things as jokes.
But the way that the Russians and the Chinese have it figured out is You now have that nanotech.
They can, from the satellites, figure out exactly where you are, so they won't necessarily press something to have you explode from the inside out, but they'll know exactly.
There's nowhere to hide, is what I'm trying to say.
So they're sending... That's why they call the aircraft carriers white elephants, because they know exactly where the aircraft carrier is, and the aircraft carrier doesn't have a defense system that will outdo the supersonic missiles that they will send Right.
They're all sitting ducks.
They are.
Oh, the military's figured it out.
They're all sitting ducks.
They're sitting ducks.
And that's what they're not telling the military.
Oh, the military has figured it out.
Did you hear that Donald Cook wasn't in the Black Sea when a Russian bomber approached it and it froze all their electronics?
They couldn't do anything in response.
They've done that.
Yep.
Brilliant.
In our contract, they get fat and happy and they turn out inferior products so they can get maintenance contracts that double their take or triple it.
They get more money on maintaining their defective products than they do in manufacturing them to begin with.
So we're compromised militarily, I think, at every end.
And when you have an idiot like Lloyd Austin in charge, Who's really a diversity hire kind of guy.
Doesn't appear to me to have a functioning brain in terms of actual defense of the United States.
I mean, it's catastrophic.
And who wants to join a military with tutus and pink tags?
I mean, VH is all just ridiculous, what they've done.
Not to mention, obviously, the open borders.
I mean, what more basic function has a government than to maintain the security of their borders?
And they're wide open.
They're completely wide open.
The U.S.
has been infiltrated.
It's been destroyed before our very eyes.
Jim, this is Sun Tzu's Art of War, Divide and Conquer.
It goes back.
How is it that the United States became so divided?
It's no longer the United States.
I've never seen such a... Well, you know, Eloise, it all happened in this short time that Biden's been in office.
They stole the election and put him in.
By my estimate, Trump went over 100 million votes, Biden about 37, but they manipulated the outcome, all the mail-in voting and electronic, you know, Obama.
Before he left office, declared our electoral system to be part of our infrastructure and control homeland security so they can monitor the vote and change it down to the precinct level.
And I think they put in a whole host of candidates that would never have had a chance.
Had the election been on the up and up, and they've got them in all kinds of key positions, especially related to law enforcement and the judicial system.
This is my concern.
It's so fucked up.
I never in my life would have expected anything like this to happen to America, but there it is.
I'm not meaning to be fearful with the Americans and the reason I'm speaking so fast is because I'm kind of like trying to wake everybody up and make you realize if you're thinking you trust the plan, think reasonably.
If the White House were really in control, why would they allow Biden to do so much destruction over four years?
If, like you say, they were able to monitor the elections.
I'll tell you what, the Russians know that elections were stolen, the Chinese know that the elections were stolen.
When I was watching the elections from here, and we could see everybody that was in the bar, and this was eight o'clock in the morning, we were like, oh no, they just stole the election.
This isn't a foreign country.
So they're even writing in the textbooks here in Russia, the Russian textbooks, they're teaching them that the election was stolen.
So what I'm trying to say is like, if the military Is really in command, and if people are saying that Trump is the commander-in-chief and that this is all we're just watching the show, what kind of a show is this?
Yeah, I never bothered, and I agree with the argument.
I mean, too much damage has occurred to allow it to happen so people could see how bad it got, because there's nothing left when it's all over!
If Trump comes back into office—and Trump, unfortunately, seemed to have sold his soul to the Jews himself.
I mean, he may even be one.
But when he goes on Hannity and talks about complaining about the protesters who are peaceful and objecting to genocide, in which there's nothing more legitimate than protest, And telling Hannity it's a horrible thing, but they got to do it, meaning slaughter the Palestinians.
The only problem he's complaining about, they're not doing it fast enough.
That's when I was transformed.
I mean, I'd been a pretty staunch supporter of Trump and the belief that he could do more to right the ship of state than any alternative.
But I mean, that just blew my mind.
I mean, here you have Donald Trump all in for genocide.
Give me a break.
Yeah.
And I mean, if he was really the commander in chief, there would come a point where they'd be like, OK, that's enough.
You know, like we've seen enough.
We've got all the evidence.
We put the evidence out.
There would be arrests.
The QAnon stuff is nonsense.
It is nonsense.
I agree.
So one of the things that I want to talk about, too, and you let me know when our time is up, on the day that Trump gets in, because again, If it's just really an election, he would get in.
And actually, you know what?
At this point, I think people would even be cool with him coming in and saying, you know what?
We have the evidence.
The election was stolen.
They arrest Biden.
They arrest Kamala Harris.
They arrest Mayorkas, Biden, like Blinken, all these people, right?
Like at least 3,000 arrests all in one day.
That could still happen.
And I don't know why that's not happening.
If they're worried about some kind of a civil war, we're way past that point already.
At this point, I believe If there is a military, and the military is really for the people, then the military should be stepping in now before it's too late.
Like you said, what are they waiting for?
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Yeah, I feel so bad.
There is the outside chance.
That Trump is showing all this support for the genocide in order to get back into office.
But in my opinion, it's morally reprehensible.
You can't endorse genocide just like you can't let massive numbers come across the border illegally and retain your integrity.
So even if he were just saying this for political purposes, that's not acceptable to me.
That means he's morally deficient, doesn't have the character to be our commander.
Hugo, I was a huge supporter of Trump up until he went on this Hannity thing and showed his true colors, you know.
And even if it were just a feint, it's not politically acceptable to me.
He has sold his soul.
Here's what I think is going to happen.
After the Israelis, he's more valuable to them dead than alive, because again, plot for him to be assassinated by an Iranian, for Soleimani, And then all that Trump's up for is to rise up and say, we must hit Iran.
And that's what the Israelis want.
They don't give a shit about America.
But if they can use us to accomplish their goals, among which the foremost, beyond securing Ukraine for the new Israel, is destroying Iran, they'll be happy to do it.
I think they don't give a shit about Trump, other than how much he can be useful to them.
When you said that Trump was just being complacent with Israel because he's trying to get the votes and win the election again, it reminded me of a guy who's a cuck who tells his wife, you know what, go ahead and have sex with that guy in front of me so that you could see how much better I am.
And then once you're done with that guy, then I'll come in afterwards.
I mean, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
It's so shabby.
And it's so unscrupulous.
Now, once you declare that position, in my opinion, you have forfeited your integrity.
I mean, you're done as far as I'm concerned.
Stick a fork in him.
Yeah, he won the election.
So for him to even have to be running again doesn't even make sense to me.
You know what I'm saying?
And what happened to, remember the woman who was saying that they were going to get the Kraken And then that other lawyer.
What happened to those people?
They said they had all the evidence and everything.
They had everything.
They had everything.
They had blockchain.
They had every vote that was even cast according to her.
I believed all that at the time.
I think it must still be true, but nothing's been done with it.
So I think they may now believe The Zionists at Deep State may have shifted—I have such a report—they've shifted allegiance to Trump because they think now they can count on him for World War III, as though that were a desirable thing.
But, I mean, Russia is so well prepared to fight a war, and they don't want to fight, and we're so eager to have a war we're not prepared to fight, that I think the consequences are going to be devastating for the West and for the United States.
I think Russia and China, many other nations of the world, hopefully including Iran, are going to be relatively secure for the future.
But I think the West and the United States are done for.
I think our time is come and gone, and it was rot from the inside.
Rot from the inside.
Man, Jim, I wish I could disagree with you, but I'm telling you because I have the looking glass perspective.
From the outside in and listening to all these people, I could tell you they're very calm.
The people here are so united that so many people after that attack in Moscow joined the military voluntarily that Putin actually had to say, whoa, whoa, stop.
We've got enough.
Thank you.
And they've got reserves, and there are so many Russian soldiers lined up that the moment that NATO or Israel does anything wrong, they're going to pounce.
And what I don't think the United Slaves of Israel realize is that it's the entire world against the United States, which is filled with these homosexual— Israel, the UK, and some of these Western European nations dominated by Zionist puppets.
Yeah, but the thing is, and this is what's so horrifying, you guys have, the army is already there, like they went in.
Mallorcas used taxpayer dollars to pay NGOs to facilitate the invasion of the United States through foreign militaries.
Yeah, I believe that.
What was amazing was I was meeting these people because they were coming through here.
It's a gateway country, and they were telling me exactly what they were doing as they were on their way to the United States to perform terrorist attacks.
How were they spelling it out?
What were they saying to you as their mission?
They said, Biden sent us.
Biden sent us, is what they told me.
And I tried filming one guy.
I have some of the footage, but then he tried attacking me once he saw that I was filming him.
But I'll never forget, he was like, I'm going to America.
Biden sent me.
Biden sent me.
And this guy was from Afghanistan.
Did he say what his mission in America would be once he got there?
No, but he tried attacking me for filming him.
What is your inference about their mission once they get here?
Yeah, once they get there to the United States, it's to destroy the United States.
I think so.
What else could it be, right?
They're not friendly to the U.S.
And it wasn't like he was traveling with children or a wife or anything like that.
These people weren't escaping from things.
They were literally saying that they were being called upon by Biden, which was really shocking.
And again, I feel terrible.
I don't know.
It's like I'm trying to do my best here.
Listen, listen, it's so refreshing to me to get this outside perspective.
I think you're seeing things more clearly than any of us here in the United States, so I greatly value this, just to understand what the hell really is going on.
I mean, I'd do my best to piece it together, but I think you're seeing with greater clarity even than I as to what's transpiring here.
Yeah, but it's not good.
And that whole thing is, I love America.
It's not good.
It's horrible.
But the fact is, if you can't properly comprehend the situation you're in, you're helpless to do anything to deal with it properly.
All I could say is, if you're in a big city, you've got to get out.
The sooner, the better.
And I know for a lot of people, they're having difficulty because a lot of people are having difficulty in getting rid of the material.
And that's how they know that they've got you guys.
And what I mean by that is these people have been through war.
Like you said, they've lived through war.
So for them, they're used to getting bombed and stuff and having to rebuild everything.
But that's why for them, the most important thing is family and community.
But in the United States, you've lost that.
What you have is materialism.
So people don't want to leave their house.
They don't want to leave their car.
Cell phones, television, video games, you know.
But all that stuff, in an instant, it's going to be gone.
With one EMP, it's going to be gone.
And what the people in the United States don't understand is Russia has already built its own infrastructure as far as internet goes.
They've already built, they've gotten off the SWIFT system, so they don't need the U.S.
banking.
We could have hardened our infrastructure against the MPs.
Well, we didn't do it.
I mean, this idea was brought up repeatedly in the Congress and no action was taken, I now think deliberately, to leave us vulnerable.
It seems so sad to me because the way I see it again is like a bad marriage.
I see it as a couple and the United States being the the United States taxpayers being the husband or the wife and their government being the husband or the wife and you're seeing that your government has been working against you.
You're seeing that they're cheating on you and you've allowed it to happen.
So that's the part that the whole world sees and it's such a shame.
Allowing it to happen.
I mean, it was a corrosion, you know.
Somehow Soros got control of the whole Democrat party, lock, stock and barrel.
When you say somehow, can you follow how he got a hold of it?
Well, I think he bought it.
I think he bought it lock, stock and barrel.
I think it was a private operation, you know.
They've even gone into court against issues like, you know, giving the nomination to Hillary when Bernie actually had done it.
They transferred 13 primaries.
Bernie had went into Hillary's column to make her the candidate, and they argued in court they weren't obligated to follow caucuses or primaries.
They were their own independent entity.
They could do whatever they wanted.
The court agreed with them.
I mean, that's correct!
Remember, when Kamala Harris was announced, she didn't even make it to Iowa.
She didn't even make it to the very first caucus.
She was so pathetic.
It was Soros' son who said, it's going to be Kamala Harris.
I mean, what a pathetic choice.
She's a total airhead, utterly vacuous.
We all know how she made her way in politics on her back.
Now realize this, Soros understands that the money that he paid these people to sell their soul with is actually worthless, because the money is printed out of nothing.
It's a piece of paper, okay?
It's not backed by gold, it's not backed by silver, it's not backed by anything.
It's a piece of debt slavery.
So once the people... Not only that, but say the Rothschilds are going to invest fast, son, because they know in the end it's all going to be theirs.
They're going to get it all back, you know?
I mean, there's... Yeah, so how do you think these people in the United States when they have that realization?
Because it seems like they don't understand that.
These people in Congress and the Senate, the police officers, the military. - We're gonna have a lot of hysterical housewives and families that fall apart.
And you're not gonna get groceries, you're not gonna get any gas at this station.
I mean, life in America is going to fall apart, Victor.
I think you're 100% correct.
It's going to fall apart.
It's going to be calamitous.
And I think Diego's got it right.
70% of the population is going to be dead in less than a year.
So, knowing what you know and being there, I hope you have a bottle of Jack Daniels not far from you so that after we're done with this conversation, you can at least Have a quick drink.
I mean, what are you going to do when you see everything falling apart?
Are you going to grab a cigar and just kind of sit back and say, well, this is how it ends?
Yeah.
It's like Dr. Strangelove, you know, writing a bomb down to the disaster.
I know it's bad.
It's bad.
It's bad.
Yeah.
Well, listen, we never, In our wildest dreams, imagine our own government could betray us.
I mean, the Founding Fathers had a great idea, but it all depended upon the goodwill of men.
And when they've been corrupted, I mean, you know, Epstein was just one manifestation of ways to blackmail and control.
90% of Congress is probably blackmailed today, you know?
I mean, it's pathetic.
And members of the Supreme Court?
I teed up a perfect case for the Supreme Court and they declined to hear it.
I mean, it was a wonderful case.
It would have been historic.
And it turns out that of the first 10 amendments, all 9 of the 10 have been affirmed to apply to all 50 states, but not the 7th, the right to a trial by jury.
I teed up a case where they could rule the 7th amendment also applies to all 50 states.
It would have been sensational, and they declined to do it.
It's only explicable by, you know, hidden hand, you know, invisible factors that work behind the scene.
I mean, there's no other reasonable explanation.
Now, Boston bombing, Sandy Hook, the September 11, 2001 attack, and even the MGM grant, those were all false flags.
Of course, people think that false flags means that nobody was hurt or injured or killed.
That's not what that means.
That means those things were created to Push an agenda.
And what makes me so sad is that again, just like Soros corrupted the government infrastructure, the people that participated, the crisis actors, they are all responsible for this stuff too, because where are the whistleblowers?
Well, I mean, I could go into that in detail.
You know, I've had six of my books banned because I promoted collaborative research and bringing experts together to sort out Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Orlando, Dallas, Parkland, Charlottesville.
I've done great work on Las Vegas, too.
Also on Uvalde, on Buffalo, on Nashville.
They're all phony, all fraudulent.
And I've also done much more massive work on JFK, on the one hand, and 9-11 on the other, where I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005 and brought hundreds of experts around the world into collaborative research in 2006 that took off like a rocket.
When Alex Jones had his American Scholars Conference in June 2006, he invited me to be his keynote speaker in a panel discussion on Sunday, which was Recorded by C-SPAN and broadcast.
The four speakers were all from scholars from my organization, Steve Jones, physicist from BYU.
I'd made my co-chair Bob Bauman, who had a PhD in nuclear engineering from Caltech, advised Carter, Reagan, and Ford, I think all three on Star Wars projects.
Webster Tarbell, he had a book, Synthetic Terror.
9-11, Made in the USA, myself, I gave a top 10 reason we knew the hijackers are fake.
Hour and 45, and they broadcast it seven or eight times.
So I got two books on 9-11, I've got four on JFK, bringing together the best experts, we're blowing the whole case apart.
But those books, interestingly, have not been banned, but you're, of course, 100% correct.
9-11 was an Israeli ob.
Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Ulmer were the brain trust in the late, about the time of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, to find a way to bring American military into the Middle East, to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region, and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran.
Which is the greatest peace-loving nation in the world, Victor Hugo.
They haven't launched a war of aggression against another state since 1775!
By the way, everything that you just said, I hope you know, the Chinese know that stuff, and so do the Russians.
What's interesting is these people actually read the books that you write, but the United Slaves of Israel, they don't read your books, so they don't know what's going on.
I learned everything that you just said when I was living in China and surrounded by these Russians, too.
So they read your books.
I want to ask you something about Alex Jones, because I respect the man.
I think he's done a lot of great work, but he doesn't name the Jew.
He keeps calling them the globalists.
Is he, in your opinion, a controlled opposition, or why do you suppose he keeps going?
He's a limited hangout.
He's a limited hangout.
He'll talk about a lot of good stuff.
And he's good about the first two stages of scientific reasoning.
Puzzlement, speculation, adaptation, explanation.
He's good at puzzlement.
Some odd going on here.
I did earlier today and I was going back to talk about Alex talking about a coming pandemic and even had Remo Liebow, you know, meet with Jesse Ventura to talk about what would come to pass and the shots and all that.
And he was spot on.
This was like a decade or more ago.
So, I mean, he has done a lot of good work.
On the other hand, Sandy Hook, he flipped, went both side folded.
I mean, that's really bullshit.
He even claimed He'd never read my book.
I tried to enter several times on his behalf.
In an amicus role, I wouldn't be admitted because they didn't want to hear evidence that it had been a FEMA drill, even though I had massive compilation.
So he's a mixed bag.
And he went on, when he was reinstated to Twitter, he went on with Elon Musk and was given a long time for a song and dance.
And he said he'd been misled.
by professors and school safety experts, and he met me and James Tracy, who was at Florida Atlantic and actually lost his job because of his brilliant critique of Sandy Hook, especially the press conference by Wayne Carver.
And Wolfgang Halbig, who's a former Florida State Trooper, U.S.
Customs agent, principal of a school, school safety expert, Their work was included in my book, but he said he never read it.
So how could we have misled him if he never read his book?
I was subjected to a very elaborate phony lawsuit to get control of my blog and my books because I was exposing too much Sandy Hook truth.
And they actually seized at the opening day of the Alex Jones trial where they're trashing me as a batshit crazy guy.
They gotta stay as far away from as possible.
So, you know, Alex has allowed himself to be used.
I think he's got a lot of rewards from it.
He'll never pay a nickel of this nearly billion-dollar judgment for offering an opinion about Sandy Hook, which actually was well-founded.
Can you quickly just name, because I know we don't have much time, the people that are controlled opposition, in your opinion, in the alternative media market?
There's lots of good independent alternative media, but remember the mainstream is so dominated.
There are lots of good independent alternative media, but remember the mainstream is so dominated.
I have a panel of a hundred executives from CNN, every one of whom is a dual US Israeli citizen.
Another panel, NBC, a hundred execs, everyone a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
New York Times, a hundred executives, everyone is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
God forbid the New York Times is our newspaper record, meaning what's published in the New York Times is supposed to be the official history of the United States.
And so much of it is fake news.
That was a great thing Donald Trump did, calling out the fake news, you know.
I would be indebted, we would all be indebted for him if he'd done nothing more than call out fake news.
I agree with that.
So who do you listen to in the alternative media?
Who do I listen to?
I just have colleagues who are doing what I'm doing and trying to get that truth out, you know.
I'm not particularly following anybody.
I'm processing stories, sorting them out, reporting them.
I'm doing it.
Over 20 hours a week on the internet, Hugo.
I used to listen to X22 Report, but then I realized that that guy's just a total controlled opposition.
Well, see, I'm not listening enough to some of these people to even give you an informed opinion.
You're more on top of it than I. You tell me who are the good ones and the bad.
I'll just tell you.
I'm doing what I can 20 hours a week to get the truth out there.
And, you know, every now and then I got an inkling that maybe I'm having a little bit of success.
You're telling me to read my books in Russia?
Yeah.
Have you heard of Cliff High, by the way?
I'm not sure.
Tell me more.
He has some interesting ideas about the Jews and the Elohim and Antarctica and stuff like that.
What's your take on Antarctica?
You know, I've been kind of baffled by all the stories about Antarctica.
Even Admiral Byrd allegedly going down there and finding weird stuff.
I don't know enough to give an informed opinion.
I'm puzzled by it.
I'd like to learn more.
That might be one of many subjects we can address on future conversation, my dear friend.
I'm just ecstatic.
To have made contact with someone of your intellectual ability and quality.
I feel a great kinship with you.
I'm glad.
I'm just glad.
I do, too.
I pray for my brothers and sisters in the United States every single day.
I pray for you, Jim.
It's an honor to have met you.
I pray that everything turns out okay.
You know, there is a way to make peace, and I do believe in miracles, so I'm going to keep praying for that.
But we really have to keep trying to wake people up, and like I always say, united we stand, divided we fall.
That's so true.
Jim, is there anything you want to say in closing?
Can you pitch?
Oh, yeah.
I think you're a wonderful guy, super smart, right on top of these issues, and I'm looking forward to what I hope will be many future conversations with you, my friend.
Sure.
Where can people find your work?
Well, I'm doing this Revolution Radio, The Raw Deal, Monday, Wednesday, Friday from noon to 2 p.m.
Eastern, and then on five days a week, Republic Broadcast, 5 days a week from 3 p.m.
to 5 p.m.
Eastern, But then I do other shows on a weekly basis, one called Truth vs. News.
Usually it's recorded now on Mondays.
It was on Sundays.
I'm doing one with Scott Bennett called Global Awakenings.
I'm doing Something called, uh, Inconvenient Truth with a fellow named Gary King.
My BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer.
Twitter, I'm getting a lot of my stuff up on Twitter, at Jim Fetzer.
And they're supposed to be on Rumble in a show you and I just did.
I'm gonna find out why it isn't showing up on Rumble, because I think your stuff deserves to be out there everywhere.
I'm just real delighted, Victor Hugo.
All right.
God bless you, Jim.
Enjoy your family, and remember, never give up, never surrender, keep shining, live, love, flow.
Thanks.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for your time.
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