The Raw Deal (6 May 2024) with Keith Rodgers and featuring James Roguski
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal right here on Revolution Radio, the 6th day of May 2024 live.
I have a very special guest.
I'll be introducing at the bottom of the hour, James Rogoski, who has over 300 articles on the World Health Organization talking about a guy who knows his stuff.
The World Health Organization, of course, is a major menace to the world, why it controls various nations through health regulations that are intended to be adopted and implemented so they can declare a pandemic, they can manage lockdowns, they can force vaccinations and the like.
It's grotesque.
Before we get there, however, and I may be joined by Keith Rogers, who frequently co-hosts with me on Mondays.
We have a few fairly stunning developments in relation to Ukraine and Israel.
To begin with, Asia Times is reporting France is sending combat troops to the Ukraine battlefront.
Will the deployment of a foreign legion unit commanded by French officers trigger a wider European war?
This, in my opinion, is An act of colossal stupidity by Emmanuel Macron.
Here's Keith, by the way, I'm happy to say, by Emmanuel Macron, that he's going to send French troops.
Here's the story.
France has sent its first troops officially to Ukraine.
They have been deployed in support of the Ukrainian 5th Independent Mechanized Brigade.
Slavansky, the French soldiers are drawn from France's 3rd Infantry Regiment, one of the main elements of France's foreign legion.
In 2022, France had a number of Ukrainians and Russians in the foreign legion.
They were allowed to leave the legion, and in the case of Ukrainians, recurred to Ukraine to join Ukrainian forces.
It isn't clear if the Russians returned home.
The Legion today is run by French officers, but the rank and file are all foreigners.
Under the current NNOMAT being anonymous, a volunteer who joins the Legion can decide whether to keep his given name or adopt a new one.
Legionnaires serve with three years, after which they can ask for French citizenship.
If a legionnaire is wounded, he's entitled to French citizenship without any waiting period.
There are no women in the foreign legion.
Keith, I'm kind of astonished, but then the guy is not known for his intelligence.
It looks to me like Emmanuel Macron wants to make Paris the number one target of a Russian response.
What do you think of this?
I think he's cakewalking Europe into a major war. - Yeah, spell it out, tell us more I mean, it's just outrageous when Ukraine has lost the war over 500,000 dead.
Some believe that's a gross underestimate that it could be as high as a million.
Russia is making advances on every front.
There's no counteroffensive.
The lines are crumbling in the face of the Russian war of attrition.
Yet we're sending more money to a lost cause.
And here you have France sending troops.
Already many NATO officers have been killed in the war because NATO has actually been there aiding and abetting the Ukrainians and fighting the Russians.
But this is a formal participation unlike any we've seen before.
Tell us more why you think this is drawing us in.
I think most people don't realize this, Jim, and that's why I kind of gave you a call yesterday, because there's more at play here.
And also, good morning to James there, too.
The fact is that most people don't realize that we've got several different theaters going here.
And one good reference to Redacted had a good video there about who runs the U.S.
It's not Biden.
And I thought they did a good job on that.
But what we're seeing here is the drawdown of what BB this morning said on RT that no one, no one in the world is going to stop him from his ultimate objective in Israel.
And of course, this is giving a Massive black eye to the Israelis and also to the Jewish community, many of which want nothing to do with this.
But of course we have those in Israel that are dead set on this ethnic cleansing, which, as I mentioned yesterday, is the prototype of what we see over there in Ukraine, because we have all the information and it's not from any Keith, I'd even put it the other way around.
The Ukrainians, Kiev, was about to launch a genocide on the Donbass, which is what forced Putin's hand to intervene there with a special military operation.
Since the coup in 2014, Kiev had been bombarding the Donbass with artillery.
They had brought about around 2,000 deaths by the time this occurred, but they were on the verge of launching a massive invasion of the Donbass to slaughter the ethnic Russians, Russians weaker, Russian friendly.
Get this.
We now have a top U.S.
general saying American troops should be ready to die for Israel.
This is from Zero Hedge, highly responsible source, which begins with the oath that a new member of the military Is obligated to take.
I do solemnly swear or affirm I'll support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear truth, faith and allegiance the same.
The oath of enlistment.
What the hell can an American general be doing saying we're going to die, send American troops to die for Israel when it's committing genocide?
And by the way, if you want to know why, let me play a little extract if I can pull it up.
We have Colonel Jacques Baud explain why Israel is actually losing, losing, losing, losing the war in Ukraine.
Here comes a bit about it.
You know that right now in the United States, people are protesting against the policy in Gaza and what's going on.
In Rafa.
And when it comes to this conflict in Gaza, what's the end game for the Biden administration?
Because it doesn't seem that they're gaining anything from this conflict as much as they're losing in this conflict.
Because in 2024, this conflict in Gaza would be so much problematic for their campaign for 2024.
But it doesn't seem that they even care about this.
And right now we have huge protests in the universities, at the University of Columbia and other universities.
It's just getting the momentum in the United States.
And we have the same thing.
The public opinion in Europe is totally against the conflict, against this policy in Gaza.
But at the same time, we see the leaders in Europe are not that much in line with the public opinion.
We have roughly the same situation in the West, in Europe, The problem is that we tend to portray that as a support to Israel or support to Palestinians.
the Israeli government, and the population, on the other hand, understands that it makes absolutely no sense to continue supporting.
The problem is that we tend to portray that as a support to Israel or support to Palestinians.
In fact, I think most people, what they don't like is not Israel or not.
They don't like the strategy Israel is using and the inability of the leadership in Europe to understand that people are against the strategy, not against the country.
And since they don't understand that, we see more and more people who become against Israel.
And that's that's the danger of that.
I think beyond the fact that big countries and particularly in the U.S.
because you have a presidential election and we see that Biden lose support.
And he will probably, my view is that he may probably lose the election because of that.
But the combination of Ukraine, which is a failure, with Gaza, which is a failure too, may eventually cost him the next mandate.
But anyway.
We know, of course, Biden's not going to even be on the ticket.
I'm convinced of that.
So the colonel is with the Swiss Army is nevertheless making a point that the opposition is to the technique genocide being practiced as opposed to opposition to Israel.
And yet the U.S.
Congress with a new bill that I hope is going to be defeated in the Senate.
And of course, all the Israeli media control of the Zionist and the propaganda are denouncing the students as being anti-Semitic.
Keith, are you aware that Donald Trump at a rally here said that people who are committing this anti-Semitic propaganda could be put to death?
I mean, he's saying we need to bring back capital punishment?
He has blown my mind and my support.
I got to tell you, Keith, his position on all these things is so revealing and is so utterly repulsive and un-American.
Well, you've heard his recent change also on Ukraine, haven't you?
Go ahead.
Well, he come out there and of course he wants to make sure that the Ukraine's funded.
Also, he wanted to make sure that NATO is funded.
And this goes back to three different articles here.
One, where it says the Jews are the ones behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine and their goal is to create a new Jewish state to replace the failing Zionist project of Israel.
That's from a Jerusalem Post.
The other article is a leaked report that Israel acknowledges that Jews in fact are Khazars with a secret plan with reverse migration to Ukraine.
That comes from the Times of Israel.
And of course, Zelensky says he wants Ukraine to become the big Israel.
And what we're seeing here is a mass wealth extraction from the West of all these pro-Zionist governments that are funding this Plan B, I call it, That if all else fails in Israel, that they'll have their little homeland.
And of course, the longer they go, the more they lose in land and stuff over there in Ukraine by time that, uh, they have to do an ultimate, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it?
Uh, a complete total surrender, uh, total capitulation because Russia will not allow this because, I mean, this goes back to the eighties, Jim, with the, uh, not one inch East.
And what's interesting about this, the Jews in fact admit that they're Khazars, and again, they use the word "Jews," not me.
But the fact is, if you take an old Khazar map and overlie it with the map of NATO, you'll kind of see what's going on, and this goes back to the Pale of Settlements, goes back to the Versailles Treaty, the redrawing of borders and stuff, land that was lost, the redrawing of borders and stuff, land that was lost, This goes back to the Haldimard.
This goes back to the Soviet Republic of Bavaria, where over 150,000 German Jews switched sides and joined with the Nazis.
Then, of course, we have Israel, who's in fact arming the neo-Nazis, in which Vladimir Putin at the time says of Zelensky, and here you have the president of Ukraine, Zelensky, who is the leader of A band of neo-Nazis.
doesn't he know his own history? - Keith, bear in mind, a lot of this is very familiar territory.
What shocks me is that within the space of 10 days or so, when Trump met with Mike Johnson, where the Freedom Caucus had a brilliant legislative strategy to hold up funding for Israel and Ukraine until they had funding for border security.
When Trump went with Johnson, I thought this was going to shore it up.
It was going to guarantee we'd get funding from the border.
Instead, he capitulates, has Johnson go all in for funding for Ukraine and for uh israel and leaves a border unfunded in my opinion at that point in time trump made the the genocide in gaza trump's genocide the war in ukraine trump's war in the the border situation trump's fiasco he sold us out and then he called into hannity
he called into hannity complaining about the demonstrators describing them as anti-zionist and saying that it's a terrible thing israel has to do meaning the slaughter of the palestinians but they have to do it because it's like a cancer and they just have to do it quickly So he's not only not opposing the genocide, he's simply saying they got to be more efficient, they got to kill more Palestinians in less time.
And then finally, it comes out at this rally, and he's saying, we got to bring back the death penalty for the anti-Semitic protesters.
Keith, I mean, I have said before, and I say again, only Trump can defeat Trump.
In my opinion, he's already done it.
He has lost my support.
This is absolutely incredible.
You have a standard of moral acceptability and decency that is a minimal condition, in my judgment, for anyone to be fit to serve as President of the United States.
Biden, of course, couldn't possibly meet that standard because he's been funding making the genocide possible.
We know it's not even the real Biden.
This is an actor wearing a mask, literally wearing a mask, where the real Joe appears to have died in 2017.
But Donald Trump is a real flesh and blood guy.
And even Jimmy Dore says Trump is Israel first.
He's not America first.
And Jimmy makes a very convincing case.
I mean, I think Trump has just squandered all the goodwill of the American people.
And when you get a general talking about sending combat American troops that are ready to die for Israel, it makes me want to retch.
I mean, it's disgraceful.
Well, again, as we say, Mike Johnson apparently got the call.
Again, you got to remember what you're seeing with the ethnic cleansing over there in Ukraine is no different than the ethnic cleansing you're seeing over there in Gaza right now.
And as far as the border wall.
Most people don't realize this, or they don't read further or further enough into it like that, but $4 billion of that aid went to NGOs to assist with immigration at our border.
Yeah, to facilitate more illegal immigration.
Yeah, and those NGOs that get the money are basically Jewish, and we played that one video clip about two weeks ago on your show.
Uh, where the guy was questioning these guys that didn't want to talk on air like that, you know, but again, Israel can have its totally Zionist Jewish state, which seems racist to most Americans.
You know, they can have a Jewish only state.
They can kill at will and everyone like that.
But if we try to defend our borders, our natural culture, any of that stuff, we're called racist.
Well, of course, in fact, Israel had the choice.
This was.
Well, I don't know about 10 years ago to decide whether it was going to be a democratic state or it was going to be a Jewish state, and it chose to be a Jewish state.
It's not a democracy.
It's an apartheid state.
And Netanyahu has actually boasted that he'd been responsible for defeating us.
A separate state for Palestine for decades, and he intends to continue.
In fact, of course, his ultimate solution is to kill or exile every single Palestinian.
So there's nothing left.
I don't know if you've seen.
There's a rather fascinating article about his vision for Gaza.
Where it's going to be remade into a modernistic, you know, it's rather like Abu Dhabi, which may be the most futuristic city in the world today.
Well, he's got a similar vision for Gaza.
It's absolutely mind bending what's going on here, Keith.
Well, it goes further than that.
If you remember Netanyahu at the UN, he held up this new map that had this green shading on it.
And of course, that green shading took in almost all of Saudi Arabia.
It took in a lot of Iraq.
It took in a lot of Egypt.
And I can't read the other one.
It's too blurry for me for my vision here.
But the point is, though, is with that, that means millions more will be displaced as they build this land between the two rivers, you know.
And of course, on the cusp of that, we have that old 1975 article from Mitchell Bard it was about U.S. oil emergency oil supply packed with Israel.
And this is where that eastern Mediterranean pipeline project comes in.
It's a 1900-mile natural gas pipeline.
This comes from the Leviathan oil field just outside of Gaza there or the coast there, which is important to the Gaza, you know, because that should be shared money between the people of Palestine and stuff.
But this also ties into with blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline because this gas link or this LNG pipeline is supposed to go on up into Europe after it goes through Greece and everything.
And of course, your pro-Zionists, they're making sure all this is happening at the behest of even countering anything that America needs, which is no different than what you're seeing because Russia was supposed to be the largest gas station.
They want to divide it up.
Of course they cut off its oil supply to try to destroy Russia like that so this other pipeline coming online would surpass that and of course it would make sure that the Israelis had their secure future there by offering their LNG gas or Palestinian gas to Europe.
But what we're actually seeing is a bunch of treasonous idiots in this country here that are selling out the country for their I would call it their own religious convictions, where in America, you're not supposed to vote on your religious stuff.
You're supposed to be voting on what's good for the country, not some foreign country.
Yeah, of course.
Now, get this.
Here's a recent report.
Trump puts a kibosh on creating a Palestinian state.
This is dated May Fourth, so this is just two days ago.
Former President Trump said during an interview this week he no longer supports a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians following the October 7th massacre.
It seems to me he's bought into all the propaganda about October 7th when it's obvious it was allowed to happen or even made to happen.
It was fake.
Trump made his remark during an interview with Time Magazine while discussing Israel's military operation against the Hamas terrorist organization.
Remember, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I'm with Hamas.
I'm not sure a two-state solution anymore is going to work, Trump said.
Everybody was talking about two states, even when I was there.
There was a time when I thought two states could work and continue.
Now I think two states are going to be very, very tough.
I think it's going to be much tougher to get.
I also think you have fewer people who like the idea.
You had a lot of people that liked the idea four years ago.
Today you have far fewer who like the idea.
There may not be another idea.
Palestinian children are taught to hate Israel from the day they are born, which makes achieving peace nearly impossible.
I think you ought to turn that around and recognize the Israelis are taught that the Palestinians are scum of the earth.
An Israeli idea, pick up Palestinian kids for sport.
I mean, that's all so lopsided, so one sided.
I'm telling my confidence in Donald Trump has been shaken to the core.
Yeah, I just sent you a video.
I don't know if you got it yet, but it's a.
It was just filmed over in Israel and it's one of the Israelis saying that October 7th was basically a false flag.
We all knew it was fake, everything like that.
And this was, again, it was timed.
Remember that Israel had received warning from Egypt over a week in advance of this so-called Hamas attack.
It's like this has all been timed.
And of course we know that the timing is right because Bibi Netanyahu himself was facing major convictions on fraud and everything like that within his own government.
And so that's why he's doing everything he can to stay in power, because once the war ends against the people of Gaza, then that means that the trials will commence.
And as a matter of fact, this is no different, because right now Zelensky, his office is out.
He's under martial law right now.
He refused to hold any elections.
And so now they have a wanted list, Russia does, of all of the Ukrainian cabinet members, which includes Zelensky himself.
And I'm not sure how this is going to play out there because Putin made a deal with Israel's Bennett that he wouldn't kill Zelensky.
So I'm not sure what's going to happen there.
But the fact is, is with these new arrest warrants out, there's probably some just like these Abrams tanks and stuff where they're offering pretty high commissions to the to the Russian soldiers that they catch it.
Catch any of these Abrams tanks are given.
I forget what the it's like 10,000.
I'm not sure what the actual name of their currency is like that.
But anyway, rubles, rubles.
OK, yeah.
So anyway, they're offered 10,000 rubles extra like that, you know, and they're like, say, I think I just saw three more of those Abrams tanks just get wiped out over there just outside of Dunbar.
The drones makes it impossible to conceal them, and when they know them, they can use a $500 drone to take out a $500,000 or $1 million tank.
I mean, it's just ridiculous what's going on here.
The cost-benefit ratio is all in favor of Russia.
Give us a few concluding thoughts.
Before we hit the break and bring in James to talk about the World Health Organization, your overview of where things are headed in both Israel, Iran, and how it's going to affect the election here in the U.S.
Well, I'm a. I'll put it this way, Jim.
I see what's going on in this country here, and we're being sidetracked because while all this stuff worldly, I mean, as far as in the world is going on, I watched Jimmy Dorgan this morning.
He had a 64-year-old woman on there who basically gave up.
She's been red-pilled on the Democratic Party and stuff.
But again, it's red-pilled on the Republican Party, too, because none of these politicians are doing anything for America.
And like I mentioned to you before there, when Trump was trying to build his border wall and trying to get $5 billion, This Israeli firm had gotten several hundred thousand dollars to build this prototype of the border wall.
Whatever went with that money, who knows?
But, of course, then we have all these organizations of the same ilk, we'll call it, that are trying to destroy this country.
It's about ready to go down financially.
And the only thing the United States can do is to press for more war, because as you heard Blinken himself say, that all the money spent for, say, Ukraine stays right here to create American jobs.
And then after they've done all this arming for the Ukraine, the entire West has lost its ability to defend itself.
And so now they have to rearm itself.
Go ahead.
Keith, thanks.
Thanks.
We'll be right back with James Roguski talking about the World Health Organization.
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I have an expert I have an expert here on the World Health Organization, James, how did you become involved in research on the WHO?
I mean, 300 articles.
That's rather impressive, even awesome.
Tell us.
Well, you know, it's a long story, but the short version of it is, you know, expertise comes from actually reading the documents rather than listening to hearsay about them.
And so the WHO has been pumping out, you know, they spend billions of dollars every year pumping out propaganda, and they do a relatively good job of telling you what their plans are.
And so many people have heard of the concepts of mis, dis, and mal information.
Jim, I want to add one to that, and that's old information.
So, you know, I'd like to give everyone an update of the status of what's going on with the WHO, because unfortunately, The vast majority of everyone in the alternative media is either giving misinformation or old information and things change.
And so where we are at the moment today, as we are having this discussion, it's Monday, May 6th.
Over the weekend, very little information snuck out other than the fact that there has been a meeting between the United States, the United Kingdom, The nations of Kenya or the representatives from the nations of Kenya, Ethiopia.
Botswana and South Africa and representatives from Big Pharma to hash out the details for what most people talk about as the WHO pandemic treaty.
Now that should send a shiver down your spine.
What is it that they are negotiating that is to their benefit and not to ours?
And whatever it is, you may think you know about what's going on with, you know, WHO and the treaty and the amendments and all of these negotiations.
Take a step back and just, you know, understand that fundamental premise of the world.
Follow the money.
And what we're dealing with here is not what people think it is.
What they're trying to do is set up an organized crime syndicate to be able to control billions of dollars, launder it through the WHO, so that what I call the new OPEC, the OPEC that most people are familiar with is the oil producing and exporting countries.
What we're really dealing with here is an organization of pandemic emergency corporations.
They learned over the last four and a half years that it is supremely profitable To sell biological weapons as if they are health producing agents to people who are made to be afraid of a mysterious boogeyman, you know, pathogens.
And we can see it.
I don't really want to talk about it.
I just want to mention it.
All of the fear mongering that's going on with, you know, bird flu that's infecting cows, that's making people's eyes bleed.
Man, if you can't smell a false flag, you know, that's so obvious.
You know, please wake up and realize that the distractions are enormous and what they're trying to put together is a trade agreement, a business deal of an agreement to funnel more billions of dollars out of the nations that can just print money and put their people into debt to hand over to the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex.
I agree.
All right, we're done.
We can all go home.
James, have you seen?
Well, it's like I was just doing some recent research here in the United States here about all this, you know, all the states within the United States that are opening up all these 20 and some odd million dollar biolabs like Montana's got theirs and it goes different ones.
The other thing is I thought that was interesting.
It was referring to raw milk as far as this bird flu.
And I thought, well, that's interesting because Israel, one of their largest sales is raw milk.
They can have it there legally, but we can't hear.
They'll actually raid your farm and so it's kind of interesting.
God forbid a cow should be exposed to some sort of pathogen and generate antibodies in its milk for its children, and then you have to, you know, heat and process that health benefit out of the product.
And so, you know, we could go down into that rabbit hole.
The same thing happens with eggs.
You know, antibodies are made by the head to put into the eggs to protect the growing chick.
All of this is, you know, just Opposed by Big Pharma their business model is essentially.
Take healthy people, trick them into getting a test that is fraudulent to scare them into thinking they have a problem that can be solved either by swallowing a poison or injecting a poison into their body.
And what that does is it creates a lifelong customer that keeps coming back for treatments that add more poisons into the system.
So side effects, it's just a spiral that goes downward.
The best way to be healthy is to stay the furthest you possibly can away from those who claim to be helping you.
And so what?
I was going to say, you heard about our so-called alleged egg shortage, right?
Well, let's go to the, what do they call this site here?
PubMed.
Chicken egg yolk antibodies, IGYS, block the binding of the multiple SARS-CoV-2 spike protein variants.
The spike protein, as I've shown to Jim here, was nothing but the HIV virus, just as much as the so-called creation on email 2268, I think it was, from Fauci, where they said, hey, we created the bioweapon, and of course the first line of it is HIV.
And if you listen to the Moderna guy, when they received the computerized printout from the Wuhan lab, all it was is where he said, Then we started to make the vaccine.
So whatever they did to Chapel Hill, North Carolina, via that in the so-called bio lab, the gain of function, all that stuff.
Is a created this and now this is what you're hearing about long COVID, which is basically the HIV.
And now you're seeing where there's a 40% rise in autoimmune diseases, which are destroying the body's health system like that.
And, and this is all part of it.
And then they're passing this off as deaths as climate change and masturbate in the shower.
And I mean, they go on and on and on like that about all these bogus things.
And just like the heart issues with the so-called vaccines, where they attack that, that page 14 from Pfizer says right on there, it causes myocarditis.
But down in Australia, New Zealand and Britain, they're putting up these defibrillators everywhere.
And you could even get one for your home, you know?
And of course, why is everyone having heart issues suddenly?
Why are all the sports players dropping by the thousands?
You know, this goes to show you this is all premeditated murder.
And this is what I believe, like you mentioned there with Africa, is you get these scares of HIV.
Remember, the United States was sanctioning Uganda for not accepting the LGBT agenda.
And what is the biggest agenda they're pushing now is a trans agenda.
And so that way they can say, well, people are dying from HIV because of such and such the health standards, living their lifestyle changes.
Instead of what they're being or have been vaccinated with.
I'm going to have to charge you rent because you've taken up residence inside my head and you're preaching.
You're preaching to the preacher.
I absolutely agree with you.
Let me rewind the discussion a little bit and go back to 2021.
When the jabs were released, the idea, you know, forget all of the things that you've come to know and teleport yourself back to there where people were still believing what they were being told.
The idea was that, oh, you know, the jab is going to protect everyone.
And if everyone in the world would just get a couple of injections, everything's going to be fine and dandy.
And the idea was that The most vulnerable, you know, the emergency workers, nurses, doctors, you know, whatever personnel that around the world, they would get the first crack at it.
Well, that's not how it rolled out.
Nations like Canada got, you know, bought 10 jabs for everybody.
There's 40 million people in Canada.
They put into contract for 400 million jams.
And so as 2021 rolled on.
The relatively low income nations around the world said, hey, you guys are hoarding and hogging all of this wonderful technology.
Where's ours?
And so they called for a special session of the World Health Assembly.
They normally only meet once a year, but they met on December 1st of 2021.
They said to the WHO that the nations who felt they were being shortchanged asked the WHO to oversee negotiations To ensure some kind of agreement that they would get equitable access to pandemic related products.
Well, you know, two years after that, plus people should have come to the realization that they were lucky.
But they missed out on all of this wonderful technology because it doesn't stop infection.
It doesn't stop transmission.
It deranges your person's immune system.
It causes disease, disability and death.
And they're still negotiating for more.
And so the answer to that seeming paradox.
It's not that they're negotiating for the health of their people.
What they are really negotiating about is they missed out on the profits that went essentially to Pfizer and Moderna when nations like Botswana and South Africa identified Omicron.
Whatever you believe about, you know, whether or not viruses exist and that the terrain theory and all that sort of thing, put that off to the side for a second.
What did exist was a data file purporting to be this scary new variant.
And Pfizer and Moderna put that into the boosters, made a couple of more billions of dollars.
And so one of the first amendments that was proposed by the African nations and other low income countries like Bangladesh, they said, we're not giving you any stinking information about pathogens we find unless you share the benefits and, you know, read that as profits.
So what we're really dealing with here is negotiations, not between good and evil, Not with anybody who's on the right side of this discussion, actually arguing for health for people.
What we're dealing with are negotiations to divvy up a multi-billion dollar pie that would distribute manufacturing capabilities globally.
So that the local oligarchs in the low income countries would get money from wealthy nations to build out the infrastructure to make these, you know, biological weapon jabs to inflict upon their own people.
And then they would be able to make the profit.
So the argument is not sane.
The argument is not about health.
The argument is about money.
And, you know, how do we go and look for pathogens that aren't necessarily bothering anybody at the moment?
but twisted in a way that we can scare people and profit from harming them even further with, you know, biological weapons slash jab slash MR.
I think we lost games.
He said the wrong word.
What word was it he said?
There we go.
James, continue.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, I was, I was pretty much done with my rant.
Uh, you know, people need to actually understand what is really going on here.
This is not, this is not, and this is maybe going to be controversial.
This is not the WHO trying to take over national sovereignty.
This is not.
The director general trying to take over health care in your country.
If you actually read the documents, you'll see that those are red herrings to distract you and decoy you off of the money game that they're playing.
The WHO doesn't care whether or not you get jabbed.
They want to be able to dish out the contracts to their cronies and become the distribution and logistics, you know, essentially the hub For all of the money to be flowing in this industry, looking for pathogens, bringing them into a WHO coordinated laboratory, have agreements set up so that if a company gets access to the pathogens, they would have to share the benefits with wherever they came from.
That's their pathogen access and benefit sharing system.
Get contracts to put all kinds of Products into warehouses around the world.
And if you just think about it from a very fundamental retail wholesale perspective, if you could get the government to throw money at your industry and you can have them buy up products to put in warehouses to be prepared for the next problem, you'd need to create the next problem so that you can rotate the stock and go get another contract and restock what you're dealing with.
This is a money game that is astonishingly large, and it's being hidden under all kinds of red herrings and decoys and confusion.
But unfortunately, everybody who's seated around the table is there because they want a piece of this evil pie.
I agree.
Have you got access to the chat there, James?
No, unfortunately, I don't.
You don't?
Oh.
Maybe Jim can email you that link I just sent you, but there's, that's kind of self-explanatory in that link there.
It's got all the crap in there that you could think of.
And that's probably why you and I are on the same page.
Oh, absolutely.
And so, um, you know, we're approximately, um, actually exactly, uh, three weeks away from, you know, what is going on at the WHO.
They're meeting from the 27th to the 1st of June.
And on the 28th is when they're supposed to be discussing this.
Here's a story for you that many people don't understand or know very clearly.
In 2022, the WHA, the World Health Assembly, all the nations coming together for their meeting, violated their own rules, international health regulations, which says that any country can put forth amendments, but they have to give four months notice.
They're also supposed to give six weeks notice for any kind of documentation.
And there's a lot of documentation missing for this one coming up.
But back in 2022, a number of nations, including the U.S., dropped on the table on May 24th, 2022, in the middle of the Assembly, amendments to five articles of the International Health Regulations.
And astonishingly, four days later, on May 28th, the World Health Assembly claimed That those amendments had been adopted, but they never bothered to vote.
They just simply said, yeah, we adopted him.
And we actually got 12 members of the European Parliament to send a letter 18 months after that, on November 28th, 2023, to the Director General Tedros saying, hey, you know, you guys are claiming that these amendments were adopted, but we can't find evidence of any vote.
Well, obviously they've got nothing but silence back.
And they're stating in the documents to WHO is that those amendments are going to go into the legally binding force on May 31st of 2024.
Well, Rob Bruce, who is one of the members of the European Parliament, came to the United States and spoke directly to Senator Ron Johnson at the latest meeting that he had in one of the Senate conference rooms.
And he told him this, and the room gave a collective shrug It's like, yeah, OK, whatever.
It's astonishing.
You present evidence of fraud, you know, just blatant fraud that should be enough to bring Tedros down, the director general of the WHO.
And everybody in the room just kind of said, eh, whatever.
And so there's a lot of talk, um, currently about 49 Republican senators wrote a letter to Biden saying that, you know, they, um, oppose this pandemic treaty.
They oppose the amendments and that's all fine and good.
But then what they said is, well, we want to reform the WHO.
How about one of those senators, just one of them.
Having a staff member call Andy Biggs from Arizona who proposed H.R.
79 and saying, hey, would like to copy the W.H.O.
Withdrawal Act and put it into the Senate as companion legislation so that we can leave the W.H.O.
We've gotten 58 members of the House, which is not enough, but it's not nothing.
If you go to exitthewho.com, we've got 58 members of Congress who have at least stepped up and co-sponsored the WHO Withdrawal Act.
We can't get one senator to just copy that and submit it in the Senate for consideration by the senators.
They want to reform the WHO?
I don't think so.
I think any organization that is trying to do the things that they're trying to do and has done the things that they've done in the past, If we're involved in them, we're complicit with the evil that they're doing.
And quite frankly, we're their largest donor.
A lot of people like to blame China, but we're the ones really calling the shots at the WHO along with the United Kingdom.
And anything going on with that organization, we have to look collectively in the mirror And and get a hold of our government, because what they are trying to do is essentially control the research and development of biological weapons to inflict upon the people of the world.
I agree again.
Sorry, I'll try to find something to argue with you about, but at the moment we're doing OK.
Well, it's just because I don't have you heard the the Pakistan Uh, news reporting about Pfizer, about the agreements they had with Latin America, where under any circumstances they had to give up access to their central banks or military and their embassies.
In my world, that's old news.
I haven't seen any recent reports about it.
You know, these agreements are done in secret, you know, with liability protection and, you know, absolutely outlandish, you know, claims and requirements made by the pharmaceutical companies.
What we're dealing with here is bigger than the WHO.
It really is.
I call it the other fake.
Okay.
PHEIC is what Tedros is able to declare.
It's called a Public Health Emergency of International Concern or pronounced fake.
I mean, you really just can't make this stuff up.
But the other fake is the Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex.
Here's a challenge for your listeners.
OK, go back to the 60s when they instituted Medicare, Medicaid and all the government programs to funnel money into big pharma.
Add up all of the tax that was collected, you know, small couple of percent of taxes taken out of people's payroll for, quote unquote, health care.
Add all that up from the 60s until now, and then add up all of the money that has been spent on those programs, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, and so forth.
And I think when you subtract the amount of taxes collected from the amount of debt that we've gone into in order to divert all that money to big pharma, I bet you'll come up with the number that's very close to the nation's overall national debt.
What we've been tricked into doing is just funneling debt money into big pharma.
And the trillions of dollars that they got over the last couple of years is just the icing on the cake.
This is what is destroying our country.
People are being poisoned on a regular basis, which is harming their health, which is causing more money to flow from our, you know, debt into these programs to feed Big Pharma.
About a year ago, Javier Becerra, who's the Secretary of Health and Human Services, was interviewed.
And I have to admit, my jaw kind of hit the floor.
They asked him, what would you like Americans to know about The department that he runs, Department of Health and Human Services, he didn't skip a beat.
He didn't waste a minute.
He said, Oh, every American should understand that the federal government has absolutely no authority over healthcare whatsoever.
We have a lot of money.
And when we put that money into programs, people gravitate to them.
And if you want to participate and receive those benefits, then you have to follow various rules.
Now, there's another fallacy that is going around, and I got to admit, it's really frustrating how people don't don't read, you know, fundamental core documents.
I challenge everyone to go read your state constitution.
I've only been able to find 13 states that even mention that your state government has authority over health care.
You have authority over your health care.
No one else.
There are some states that say, well, if people are incarcerated, then the state has an obligation to provide health care.
If there's some sort of incompetence involved, if someone is unable to care for themselves, you know, maybe they're not mentally competent, then the state government may have a responsibility to care for those people.
Every time I hear somebody talk about the 10th Amendment saying, oh, it's a state's rights issue, the states have the right to regulate health care.
No, they don't.
Unless you read your state constitution and it specifically says so, that right and that authority rests in the people.
You heard Pelosi say that we can't tell people to wear a mask and to get vaccinated and stuff like that.
That's why it was I mean, even Trump, I think, what was it?
It was a million dollars at first, 10 million by the time he got done, about how much money he took from Pfizer or Big Pharma and stuff like that, you know, all these politicians.
Matter of fact, another thing I just noticed about these so-called protests right now, all the people wearing masks.
Now that's another psychological thing, see, is why are they wearing masks in the middle of, say, spring and stuff like that, you know?
This is a psych thing where you're still seeing politicians around the world still wearing their masks.
I suppose if you're paid $175,000 in the United States to do that, plus getting your kickbacks from Big Pharma to fund your political career, it might be worth it because when you start looking at these politicians that got $20 or $170 million worth of net value, they're getting money from somewhere.
You know, my take on all of this is the simple answer is no.
No to the WHO.
No to the treaty.
No to the amendments.
No to all of these mandates.
And anyone who wants further information can go to exitthewho.com.
That's in the United States.
Anyone around the world can go to exitthewho.org.
We simply have to take back our fundamental freedoms, our bodily autonomy.
You know, some of the amendments that they're discussing.
Would enable, um, and now again, I want to make, I want to make this crystal clear.
This is not the WHO telling nations what to do.
This is an agreement amongst nations that, you know, kind of like a gentleman's agreement.
We'll abuse your people.
You can abuse our people.
What they're adding amendments to articles 24 and 27 is the authority for when people are traveling internationally.
For nations to quarantine what they call conveyances, that's an airplane, a cruise line, you know, cruise boat, train, bus, whatever it might be, to institute isolation and quarantine as appropriate.
Well, you know, if you make national... Hold on, hold on, James.
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Well, James Rogoski, who has over 300 articles on the World Health Organization, is here with us today.
And Keith and here are having an excellent discussion where, Keith, I'm so pleased you're here today because your background with WHO is far greater than my own.
James, please do continue with the point you were making prior to the break.
Well, you know, the current status of where we are at the moment is this week there Scrambling at the WHO.
Their intergovernmental negotiating body is desperately trying to reach an agreement.
You know, they're charged with presenting the results of their negotiations to the World Health Assembly.
They're going to do that on May 28th, or they hope to.
But they're very, very, very far away from an actual agreement.
The other track, and people have to realize there are two separate things going on here, The amendments to the international health regulations contain what I was talking about with, you know, amendments to.
Make it easier for nations to.
Now this is only applicable to international travel.
That's what the amendments are really all about to compel travelers.
To undergo medical examinations, prophylaxis, vaccine, or face isolation and quarantine.
I know people personally who lives were changed when, you know, they hoped to travel on vacation or business and, you know, they learned, oh, in order to do so, they had to get various vaccines and it destroyed their health and completely changed their lives.
They're now part of the health freedom movement because they realize that the coercion Um, is is ridiculous and they want to add language to strengthen that so that isolation and quarantine could be implemented as appropriate.
Well, you know, that sure sounds like an open ended invitation for, you know, dictatorial totalitarian activity.
Where some port official at an airport or another port could just lock down the entire conveyance, you know, cruise line or airplane.
And they have a term in the regulations that they have that they've defined for 19 years now.
If you're anywhere near something that they claim is contagious or contamination, you're a suspect.
And if you're a suspect, As appropriate, they could isolate and quarantine you.
And when you look at the laws, you know, in the US government, I uncovered well over two years ago, and I'll give a date for you to consider, and then I'll tell you what it's all about.
Consider the date, January 19th, 2017.
The CDC put forth a final ruling, and they redefined a lot of terms in regards to Quarantine and isolation and emergencies and so forth.
A lot of people have been aware that in that document it was made so that our Secretary of Health and Human Services would not need to have any data, would not need to have any statistics of whether or not people are coming sick or hospitalized or dying.
He could declare a public health emergency as part of the Department of Health and Human Services simply by pointing to the fact that the director general declared a public health emergency of international concern or a fake.
Well, the Director General doesn't need any statistics or data or anything to declare a fake.
That's what a fake is.
He could just say there is an emergency and then it cascades downward.
It's not an order.
It's an enabling.
It's regulatory cover.
And then the state officials could do it.
The county officials could do it.
And then when you go looking for, you know, where's the beef?
Where's the actual data that there is an emergency?
There's nothing there.
And that's why I refer to the WHO as the World Hypnosis Organization.
And it's just a psyop.
It's a game.
It's a false flag.
It's a trick to get everyone afraid and go running, you know, to get in line to inject a poison into your body that makes you a lifelong customer of the Pharmaceutical Hospital Emergency Industrial Complex.
There's more to it than that, James.
Oh, there's always more.
Yeah, when you were talking there, I was kind of looking back at some of my old radio shows that I used to do there.
One was a leak from Fort Detrick in July of 2019.
Then you had Robert Malone say that he was in the very latter part of 2019 when he, one of his CIA friends called him and said, you better spin up your team.
We have a problem here.
And then we moved further into that and the, The guy that was spreading the news about the so-called virus was the same one who did the Iraq's anthrax thing.
Same reporter that did that.
But what I thought was interesting is this.
I mean, this is interesting for my part.
As you said, this is basically a commercial venture.
On April 2nd of 2020, this is just after they announced it here in the United States that there may be a pandemic.
So less than a month later, the U.S.
Navy, sorry, the U.S.
sold nearly $60 million worth of ventilators and face masks and stuff like that to China.
One week later, Israel brings 1 million masks from China for their IDF soldiers.
Can't have sick IDF unable to slaughter people like that, you know, but again, this was a massive transfer.
And then at the same time, the cares to act is being written, which you mentioned earlier, which is bailing out the banks, the corporations to keep them afloat while they're shutting down all the small businesses, hundreds of thousands of small businesses like that, you know, they've done their stay at home orders like that.
And in the meantime, as they're rolling out these vaccines, you have to sit there and take yourself.
Where did all these billions of vials get created?
At what time?
The same thing with the plastic barriers as they shut things down.
Who was putting all these plastic barriers together in the stores?
There's decal signs, all the literature up the doctor's offices about staying six feet away, all this stuff.
This was corrugated.
You know, it was a fear campaign.
And then, as you mentioned earlier with the, uh, uh, Oh, the African one.
What's the name of that virus again?
Omicron.
Omicron, yeah.
I have the video of the doctor saying exactly what the symptoms were.
A scratchy throat, maybe some runny eyes and stuff like that.
And then you got the veterinarian Berla over there in Israel saying, you need three booster shots for that.
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We used to have chicken soup and stay home.
That's what our mom used to do for us like that, you know.
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And so does Fauci, that we didn't realize it was just like the flu, you know, and yet here's all this hype about getting vaccinated and stuff.
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Later in 2005, it's up to five some odd trillion dollars like that.
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about the two biggest things for the U.S. economy.
The government is because of its military spending and budget.
And, of course, as I mentioned earlier, Blinken saying that all the jobs bring jobs back here.
But they're subsidized in the military-industrial complex.
But the second one was the health care industry, of which – what is it?
I think it's up to 80 million Americans now that don't have health care.
And then we had that article from Indiana where 40 percent of the deaths were attributed to COVID – But you, since you took it, an experimental product that was not FDA approved, although they said it was at the time, these are all FDA approved.
I can read you this list here off this one stupid thing here where, let me find this on page 19 here.
I have it.
Because it's the wording on it.
Well, here, it's easier for me to go here.
But if you look at page 19 on this thing here from myocarditis, what's on the very bottom of it is interesting.
Let me see if I get my eyes to focus here.
Page 14.
Okay, it says here myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported following administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech, which is Germany.
Talk about eugenics, you know, of the COVID-19, you know.
Anyway, it says after here, then it lists a whole bunch of other stuff here, which you should click this link here to see if it is like it.
But on the very bottom, it says The FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine bivalent, which are not FDA-approved vaccines.
See, they've authorized it for emergencies, but they're not FDA-approved.
And so, you're taking an experimental product, and then your insurance company comes back and says, well, no, you took an experimental thing, which violated the Nuremberg Code.
They've mangled the laws.
The only conflict that I would have with what you said is you said 80 million Americans don't have health care.
I would argue that 330 plus Americans don't have health care.
I think you meant health insurance.
None of us, none of us are getting health care.
We're getting abused.
Wellness care, wellness care.
I remember when that switched over, we used to go to the pain center and now it's the wellness center.
Anyway, I was mentioning to you earlier, James, it's email 2286 and it's from Adam Gartner.
I guess that's how you pronounce his name.
It's dated March 11th, 2020.
And it says subject coronavirus bioweapon production method.
Hello, Anthony.
This is how the virus was created.
And then it goes on to say this interveron fusion of HIV So anyway, again, this is where it was created with the HIV.
And of course, that sent to Moderna, who admitted, I have the video from the guy from Moderna that says that, yeah, we received this from Wuhan and we went into production off of this, what they said.
See?
And then now, like I say, everyone's getting this long COVID.
which is basically HIV.
And there's nothing you can do because they wrote the PREP Act.
They totally indemnified themselves against any liability.
And I mean, isn't a government supposed to take care of its citizens, not try to kill them, you know, with democide, you know?
Well, you know, our government has clearly stopped listening to the people.
They're supposed to be our public servants.
They listen to their donors.
They listen to corporations and work hand-in-hand with them.
Essentially, we may have fought World War II to push back on fascism, but we've become that fascist country that we were trying to stop.
I'd actually disagree with you.
The coordination, well, you certainly can, but the coordination between Um, government and corporations to abuse the people has been enhanced by the interjection of all of these foundations and civil society organizations, nonprofits, non-government organizations that are doing the bidding.
Of, you know, officials and governments revolving doors between business and foundations and government.
No one's listening to the people because, quite frankly, we need to shout a lot louder because they're they're listening to their masters wherever they may be.
You know, Cui Bono, who benefits, you know, money talks and he who pays the piper calls the tune.
That's really what's going on with the WHO.
They're doing the bidding of those organizations and nations that hand over the money that enables them to do what they're doing.
I'm interested in wherever you may disagree.
Please go right ahead.
Well, I only disagree in this fact here is because I have this one video called Corporate Treason, but it's exactly how the United States funded the Nazis and all the stuff like that, how while the Nazis were building their planes and stuff, they were building the engines for the Pratt Whitney and stuff, you know, for the England and all.
I mean, but the point is, though, is Everything that we learn about Germany and stuff like that.
I have the video how the CIA kept the Nazis alive all through these decades.
Operation Gladio and stuff to have these stay behind forces.
Of course, it's arms sales, you know.
But the point is, this government is supporting Nazis in Ukraine today.
So ineffectively, they're pissing on the graves of over 400,000 dead veterans who died fighting the alleged Nazis who they support today.
We have no disagreement here.
People always ask me, you know, what can you do, right?
And so step number one really is the deception, the deceit, the confusion, you know, the false flags all around.
You know, false flags don't necessarily mean that something did not happen or, you know, it's not that it's all fake.
You know, people die, people get sick, people are harmed.
The concept of the false flag is the wrong person or the wrong group gets blamed for something that was put together to trick people into getting angry in the wrong direction.
And so step number one is to get clear on what is really going on.
And I will admit.
That is difficult.
James Fetzer just had his mind blown with some of the things that Trump has been saying recently, as we all should.
You put your faith in any one politician, you're going to get screwed eventually.
What we have to do is stand together as a people and get clear on what is really going on and where are the problems.
And I think at the core, People in government are out of control.
They're not listening to the people.
They're doing whatever the heck it is they want to do.
And and the money that they control, you know, it's just being printed is not the right word, you know, just being digitized out of thin air to feed corruption around the world.
Well, you know, we the people are are suffering.
Basically, they're stealing.
the future away from children and grandchildren with all of the debt that they're incurring to funnel it into the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex, and you know all of the other corporations that purport to be of and you know all of the other corporations that purport to But the only people that they benefit are themselves.
Right.
Well, it's like I was showing that he's a kind of like my adopted son.
I'm I love the kid.
He's an Indian boy here, but, uh, he just turned 18, but I was showing him how it was when I was growing up.
And I had him watch part of this video called America in the 1974s.
And it showed how industrialized America was at that time.
We had, uh, healthcare.
We had 40 hours a week.
We had paid overtime, sick leave, pregnancy leave, and a paid two week vacation.
And it was corporate greed that got rid of all of that.
They sent those jobs over to China, to Mexico, Indonesia, Malaysia, to make our t-shirts, whatever like that, you know.
And they left us with nothing but part-time, multiple part-time jobs.
And so, I mean, this is a kid that's trying to find a job here and stuff like that, and there's nothing, you know.
And of course, then they want to shut your transportation down so you can't travel.
Matter of fact, I just watched a video this morning.
It was a guy going to a gas station, and he was reading the sales off of each pump.
$10, $5, $12.
People used to fill up their tanks, and they can't even do that anymore.
So that goes to show you how bad the economy is.
You know, I grew up in Northeast Ohio in what is now the Rust Belt, you know, in a steel mill town.
And when I was in high school, the corporations just, as you said, you know, closed down the steel mills, took them to Japan.
And, you know, a good 10% of the people in my small town were immediately out of work.
Um, the schools had to close, you know, the tax base went to nothing.
And, you know, that was at the sort of the beginning of that transfer of wealth from, you know, manufacturing in the United States to overseas.
And, you know, we're still we're still dealing with exactly what you just said.
This is in many ways similar.
What's going on with these negotiations with the W.H.O.
is they want money from wealthy nations, commonly referred to as the Global North, to funnel through all kinds of very convoluted, hidden, intermediary funds.
The United States has already set up one of those, the World Bank's Pandemic Fund, in the National Defense Authorization Act in December of 2022.
The Defense Department set aside five billion dollars over the next five years to essentially build out the infrastructure around the world.
Nothing in the United States, you know, Caribbean nations, South America, Africa, so forth, to have laboratories looking for pathogens to bring into their labs to make more products to jab people with.
And they want to do is essentially the same thing with this WHO pandemic treaty on a global basis with up to 30 billion dollars a year.
You know, invisible funding that nobody pays any attention to, but they control.
And it would go to the countries and to the oligarchs around the world.
To geographically distribute the mRNA manufacturing, they even want to take that and profit from them around the world.
So, in many ways, it's very similar to what you're talking about.
Would you agree that they don't care about human life, really?
Oh, it's not even remotely on the table.
OK, so say, yeah, with your scenario, say Africa.
If they introduce some kind of an outbreak over there, enough to cause a scare over here that it's spreading, this conforms with Henry Kissinger's NSSM 200 for lower developed countries and stuff about wealth stripping the African continent of its gold minerals and oil and stuff like that, which is why there's such a fusion right now because as the US is losing its bases and France is getting kicked out of Africa and stuff,
That we're seeing a major buildup there.
All these wars are usually based on some sort of commerce, like with Taiwan, it's IC chips and stuff.
And, and of course, I, today, my mom always used to say, if you want to get home, always go back.
And that's like our roots.
If we want to get back to America that we once loved.
And that's what I was trying to say with this young kid here there about how nice America was in my day.
Imagine how nice it was in my mom's day when they didn't have all these damn stuff.
You just barely had... I mean, I remember having to sit around and wait for my sister to get off the regular telephone.
And if that didn't work, I walked to my friend's house.
And today people are so lazy, they won't do anything.
And all they do is they sit around getting fat, staying downstairs in their parents' basement, playing video games all day long.
And what did Harari say?
Well, the useless eaters will just have to sedate them and they'll be playing video games all day long.
What a life.
Jim.
Yeah, you guys are doing fantastic.
I'm so impressed with everything that's taking place here.
James, you know your stuff.
And Keith, you're all over this.
I love the combination.
Now, in a few minutes after the break, we're going to open the lines to callers.
But I'm just extremely happy with everything being covered here.
And the revelation that WHO isn't so much trying to manage governments as run a vast Money-making operation.
It's a mafia.
It's a mafia.
Yeah, a kind of medical mafia.
I think that's right, and I believe James has it right.
We ought to be withdrawing from the WHO.
Just as we withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, we should never have launched NAFTA.
Which seems to me, we go back to Bill Clinton, that he did so much damage to the United States, and Ross Perot warned us.
He said that Giant sucking sound is all those jobs going south.
And now they're actually importing the workers I'm given to understand that they're big industries that are thrilled to have millions and millions of illegals pouring into this country as cheap labor.
And, of course, the Democrats want them as new voters.
But I'm fearful that actually they're going to turn out to be an invading army and that we're going to have a catastrophe on our hands.
James Keith, you're both welcome to address.
James, you first.
When you look at what the WHO is doing, they're just playing the middleman.
They're overseeing the negotiations.
They want to oversee the distribution and logistics.
They proudly proclaim that they have a 20,000 square meter distribution hub in Dubai.
That's four football fields.
So imagine the amount of money, corruption, That you could control with, you know, billions of dollars coming in and you've got to fill that's just one of the six regions distribution hubs with pandemic related products paid for by wealthier nations around the world who are throwing money into all of these many different financial intermediaries.
OK, they call it a fifth of financial intermediary fund.
They're having difficulty because some of the nations want there to be one big fund.
And that's hard to hide, right?
They want it to be in all of these many different funds so that it can all just be invisible.
They want to set up a framework convention, which means.
That very similar to the framework convention for climate change that set up a conference of the parties to meet year after year after year so they could hide all of the detailed decisions in these meetings that nobody pays attention to.
But if you sign on to this empty framework convention out of the gate.
Whatever gets agreed down the road.
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We do have breaking news that Hamas has announced it's exempted an Egyptian-Qatar ceasefire proposal that's been lingering for a week or so.
The two Middle Eastern nations have been mediating months of talks between Israel and Hamas, but there has yet been no immediate response from Israel.
This is going to involve a hostage exchange in return for a rather lengthy ceasefire.
We'll see what happens here, but Bibi's committed to the slaughter of all Palestinians, so I won't be surprised if he shows no interest.
Meanwhile, I repeat our call-in number, 608-957-8727.
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Keith, go ahead, comment on the Hamas rebuzzler, more of James' thoughts about WHO and all that.
Go ahead.
Okay, first I'll start off, I dropped you an article there about a whistleblower who says Trump was divested, stripped of his commander-in-chief stuff right after January 6th.
It's from the Daily Mail there, but it's in the chat there.
But bear in mind, January 6th was completely contrived and fabricated.
How could that happen?
Who would have the authority to do that?
I mean, that's just outrageous!
Well, again, we're looking at the deep state.
You know, one thing I learned, though, because my forte has been studying the CIA stuff for years, And of course, a lot of that comes from reading the Pentagon Papers, the Church Report, the Pike Report.
I mean, to go on down the line like that, reading the Geneva Convention, the CENTCO, which is basically a status of foreign troops in foreign lands.
No one reads this stuff.
And so when the government says, well, we're just sending our troops in for policing action.
Well, you've only got a certain timeframe to do it.
And that's why they called it a policing action.
And if not, you pulled out.
You were just supposed to stabilize, you know.
But this whole thing has been taking over.
And what it is, it's like James has been saying, it's one big financial thing.
And it's almost like the U.S. State Department going to China and say, hey, help us with Russia.
And when we get done, we're going to attack you.
And China even made that tweet.
They know what's going on.
And now they want them to divest saying, well, you need to slow down on all your production and stuff like that.
But with this Hamas deal, though, like you say, I don't think maybe he's going to take it after that speech this morning that he said on RT that no one is going to stop him from what their final objection is.
But I don't know if I mentioned earlier there, but one of those Israeli guys, I forget his name there.
But anyway, he said he referred to American colleges as Hamas.
And I thought, God, we're going to start bombing over here now.
Yeah, good question.
Don't give him any ideas, please.
Well, Trump would go along with it.
Finish the job.
Yeah, I'm just infuriated with Trump over this.
To me, it's absolutely outrageous.
James, do you have thoughts?
You know, we had that extended discussion before you entered the fray, and I'd just be glad to have any reflections you have about these most recent developments.
By the way, it turns out that story I had about American troops should be ready to die from Israel, Scott Bennett caught me out.
It was back from 2018, so it's not current, but I do think the attitude is there to support that sort of nonsense.
But if they send troops into Ukraine, it's the same thing.
They'd still be dying for Israel.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I agree completely.
James, your thoughts?
Yeah, let me take a flight up to 30,000 feet and take a bigger view on all of this.
All of the issues going on with the WHO, whether it is the amendments to the international health regulations or the brand new agreement or treaty or framework convention that they're talking about, they're predicated on a fundamental fraud.
Anybody who's ever looked into what they call the RT-PCR process, I refuse to call it a test.
Right.
Carrie Mollis' innovation is a wonderful laboratory tool.
It's not a diagnostic.
And so how people could be tricked into believing that they have an asymptomatic disease, OK, I I teased everybody earlier.
I mentioned a document and I gave everybody a date when the CDC put forth a new, you know, final ruling about quarantine and you know whether or not people can be locked up and how you determine someone is ill.
That document was presented into the Federal Register on the last full day of the Obama administration, January 19th, 2017.
They made a lot of changes.
They changed the definition of what an invasive examination is.
And the U.S.
definition of an invasive exam is different than the International Health Regulations definition.
And they made it so that sticking something up your nose halfway into your brain is considered to be non-invasive and allowable.
Now, they did that the day before Trump walked into office, and I'm pretty sure nobody paid much attention to it.
And so the definition of what an ill person could be considered to be, I kid you not, if you have a headache and aches and pains coming off of a flight, you better not tell anybody because you could be deemed a hazard.
I wish I was making this kind of stuff up.
This is the regulations that they slip through just on, you know, as they're leaving on the way out.
And so what the core of fundamental fraud is the assumption that you can test someone and determine that they are a hazard to other men and women.
Let me digress a little bit and give you something to think about.
You've ever, you know, I see you've got a black lab on the photo for your thing.
So if you've ever gone into the woods and your dog is running through and hits some poison ivy and then comes back and brushes up against your leg or you pet him and then you scratch your eyes or something, you're like, how did I get poison ivy?
I wasn't anywhere near it.
Well, it is possible, and I could comprehend, you know, that there would be a case where your pet Could be a hazard.
You know, you need to keep them away from people.
You need to wash them down, you know, clean all the poison ivy oil off of them, and then everything is fine.
The point is, these regulations, if you go all the way back to the World Health Organization's constitution from 1948, they're being negotiated under Article 21.
Which gives the World Health Assembly authority to do a handful of things, which they have failed to do for 76 years, and they're going to fail again.
They have the authority to set regulations and standards for cause of death.
They have the authority to set standards for diagnostic tests.
They can set standards for purity Of biological and pharmacological products, and they also have the ability to set standards for advertising and labeling.
You know, think all of the blank inserts on all the jabs.
Well, if they had done what they are authorized to do at any point in the past.
We would have figured out that what happened over the last four and a half years was a complete and total scam.
The diagnostics set up a case.
Demick the.
You mentioned the CARES Act and the determination of the cause of death or cause of illness.
All that did was make money flow.
If you were a COVID patient or a COVID death, people made more money.
The impurities that have been found in the vials of what they call vaccines, you know, picked from a multiple list.
The ingredients in the lipid nanoparticles are toxic substances that should never have been allowed to be injected into people.
Forget about whether there's any mRNA or DNA or, you know, quantum dots or anything else in there.
No inspection of these were done because there are no regulations.
There are no standards.
And, you know, last on the list is advertising and labeling.
When everyone is saying, oh, it's safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective.
And there's a package insert that is part of, you know, considered part of the label, gives people zero information about the risks.
Because it was not on it.
The W.H.O.
has failed to do the job, you know, they're given in Article 21 of the W.H.O.
Constitution.
Instead, you know, they're trying to negotiate a business deal.
And so this whole thing is predicated on fraud.
The jabs don't work.
They don't stop infection.
They don't stop transmission.
They derange your immune system on purpose.
And the tests are just designed to trick people into thinking that there's a problem when there wasn't.
When people wake up to the PSYOP, Um, you know, it's, it's a wonderful event when they take that red pill and they see how they've been gamed and they're being gamed with all of the red herrings that people are talking about with what's currently going on in these negotiations.
Let me, let me throw this back at you with a question.
Um, you know, think back to all of the things that people call false flags or conspiracy theories or whatever, and, and look at how many people are still Lie to the lies that we've been told for our entire life.
This is the problem.
The problem is people need to wake up and realize that you are being lied to consistently and you're falling for it.
James, did you see the video of AOC, Jim's girlfriend over there in New York?
I can't wait to hear.
She was sat on the street corner and she says, quote unquote, if you go to your medical examiner or your doctor and change the certificate of death to read COVID, FEMA will give you $8,500.
Yep.
So that furthers a lie.
And also, I guess it stabs people's conscience there that you can say, well, yeah, my husband over like that died of covid like that.
But all you did is you just did it for the monetary venture.
And that's the same thing they did when they started shutting everything down.
Oh, we'll give you fourteen hundred dollars.
What they give the banks and stuff and the corporations to keep going.
Matter of fact, the corporations which were supposed to retain their employees, but they fired him anyway.
See, but this is more of this fraud.
And it's a FEMA operation, and I've sent out those things about all these 11,000-some-odd politicians that got waivers from the COVID vaccine and stuff.
Well, that's continuity of government.
You know, they give it to everyone else, but they keep themselves going, and that's the old Rex 84 continuity of government, you know?
Rules for thee and not for me.
Yeah.
So, Jim, what do you think about that?
Is she your girlfriend?
Yeah.
I've always had a soft spot for AOC.
She is such a charmer.
Unbelievable.
I think that's probably why men turn gay, but anyway.
Anyway.
We all really have to look in the mirror, though.
I mean, if if we continue to be, you know, to allow ourselves to be deceived, Um, and, and fall for the stories that people tell us, um, they're going to keep doing it.
And, you know, one of the aspects of this, um, I'll give a shout out, um, you know, Jim, maybe we can get you together and, and, and, uh, get these folks interviewed.
Um, you know, Catherine watt who, um, publishes, uh, bailiwicknews.substack.com has dug deep down into, um, you know, the laws.
That were corrupted over our lifetime, quite frankly, to enable all of this.
So let me ask everybody a rhetorical question.
OK, if you know of somebody who went to the doctor and the doctor, you know, did some sort of test and said, oh, my God, you've got cancer, you've got to have surgery and chemo and radiation and never bothered to tell the person of the actual risk involved.
They never did what is required In everyone's mind for informed consent.
What law could you find that would enable that person to bring charges against that doctor for having failed to properly inform them about the risk?
Now you could go looking all you want and you can talk about the Nuremberg Code.
It doesn't really apply in this particular case.
You're not going to find the law.
That makes that sort of broad a crime that has a punishment.
And so when someone infringes upon your freedom of speech or privacy or anything else, if you go and you look to see if there is a law that you could bring charges against them in criminal court and have a penalty applied to that violation of your rights, you're not going to find it.
What you will find are laws that protect, you know, pharmaceutical companies from liability and, you know, the PrEP Act and the Vaccine Injury Act.
What we're dealing with is over time, quietly, our legal structure has become corrupted to the point where unethical, immoral, criminal activity is technically legal.
And this is the battle that we face.
We've got to get in under the hood and root out, you know, the emergency powers acts and all of these different things that have been used against the people, giving power to governments and other officials, you know, to to abuse us in the manner that they have crafted the law to make it legal.
And so when you start looking at what the laws actually say, you will be appalled.
And the one that I mentioned, you know, the regulations that were put forth by the Obama administration on their last full day in office are absolutely astonishing.
You know, they essentially give power to do anything they want to anybody at any time.
And it looks legal.
It's immoral.
It's unethical.
It's criminal.
But they've crafted rules, regulations, statutes, laws, whatever, that we have to get in there and dig those things out.
But they keep writing new ones to make it even worse.
And in other countries like in British Columbia and Western Australia, the laws that they passed after COVID had already sort of wound down.
I mean, it's it is so unbelievably dystopian.
People have been Gaslit with what's going on with the W.H.O.
These W.H.O.
negotiations are not making the director general or the W.H.O.
into someone who's going to control your life.
That's all happening on a local level with your local tyrants that, you know, abused you over the last four and a half years.
And they're just getting ready to do it all over again.
They just need a good, scary boogeyman, you know, fear monger, psyop propaganda program to trigger everybody's fear.
You know, I think, Jim, maybe at the end of every show, you should play the last line of the Star Spangled Banner over and over and over again.
You know, we're supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave.
But if we're not brave enough, we're going to lose our freedoms.
Oh, James, that's such an excellent point.
Yes, yes, yes.
And I think today's society, the younger people especially, have been so preoccupied by their cell phones and a small group of friends affected a bit by television.
But they've lost that kind of commitment to society that is to provide it.
I think young people of past generations, and partly because after Nixon abandoned the draft, In order to take the wind out of anti-war protests against the Vietnam War, families no longer felt they had a stake in decisions of war and peace because they knew their sons and daughters would not be placed at risk.
And it's just gone so far now that the young people have Failed to benefit from military service, which actually has a huge number of rewards, instilling a sense of discipline, responsibility, trading, and various duty, obligation, honor.
I was a serious commander in the Marine Corps, where I had 15 DIs and 300 recruits under my command going through the train cycle, and I saw a whole lot of Young men who really were kind of disheveled and not fit didn't have a sense of purpose in life and no regard for themselves, acquire pride, responsibility, develop their capabilities in a remarkable way.
And that's been lost for a generation, did not have those benefits, which, in my opinion, have been severely underestimated.
And the toll it's taken on American society historically has been enormous.
I praise the protesters today, even though there clearly are infiltrators there.
Those who call out, kill the Jews, for example, appear to be Soros paid agitators who are trying to discredit the entire movement.
But if you cannot speak out against genocide when it's taking place so blatantly, and we're seeing it 24-7 now for some four months, what can you speak out against?
I'm acutely distressed by The university's cracking on on the demonstrators, but no more than Donald Trump, as I suggested at the beginning, hinting that, you know, we ought to bring back the death penalty for student protesters who object to Israeli genocide.
James, what's happened to this nation?
I have no words for that, Jim.
I have no words.
I got one.
When people had scruples or principles, they just wouldn't allow themselves to do things.
You were, James, you were talking earlier about what doctors and all stuff like that.
I remember them showing up at these pharmacies and asked them to see the patient inserts and the guy would unroll it and he does.
It's totally blank, left intentionally blank, you know.
But I did some research on that.
A Harvard study says that only 20% of doctors today actually take their hypocritical oath.
So the rest are just AMA robots.
And like they say, to get more money from Big Pharma and stuff, you have to make sure so many of your patients are vaccinated.
If you get them all vaccinated, you get this massive bonus and stuff.
And that's all it is.
It's a game machine of making money.
And of course, they don't care because like they say, if your patient gets healthy, well, then you lose a customer.
So they make sure that you're always sick.
Well, you know, the Hippocratic Oath, the classic Hippocratic Oath, is not at all what people think it is, okay?
And so I encourage everyone, you know, to go back and look at it.
Well, it's pretty simple.
It just says, first, do no harm.
I mean, that's all.
Well, you know, we'll maybe leave this for another show.
What people think.
The Hippocratic Oath is if you go back and you look up the classic Hippocratic Oath, you'll be surprised.
It is not just thou shalt do no harm.
It's much, much, much more than that.
I don't know that we have time to get into it at this moment.
But, you know, the point is.
What oaths do our officials take anymore?
Do they even bother swearing an oath of allegiance?
Okay, let me pick up on this.
I shall do by my patience as I would be done by, shall obtain consultation whenever I or they desire, shall include them to the extent they wish in all important decisions, And shall minimize suffering whenever a cure cannot be obtained.
Understanding that a dignified death is an important goal in everyone's life.
Is this to what you refer?
That's what people would like it to be.
I'm looking at the classic one.
I will give no deadly medicine to anyone.
Okay.
They were supposed to advise on food.
Oh, isn't that wonderful?
Because that's exactly the opposite of what happened here.
Continue.
With the masks, because they were giving a deadly treatment.
It's everything.
It's everything.
Because remember Pfizer and their settlements, $3.2 billion, these off-label use of drugs and people have died from them.
I will not give a woman any treatment to produce an abortion.
OK, when you go back to the original Hippocratic Oath, it actually advised them to keep their healing secrets secret and to honor their teacher.
OK, so there's the summary of Rapinoe.
I like this so much.
Why don't you come back next next week?
Come back a week from today and let's talk about the Hippocratic Oath.
This is fascinating.
I'm looking at it at Wikipedia and it's talking about the development or the evolution of the Hippocratic Oath.
I think you've hit on something rather important.
You up for that?
I mean, oh sure, any time, James.
You know, all you have to do is, you know, say it the way most people hear it.
You know, it's the Hippocratic Oath.
It isn't what you think it is.
The Hippocratic Oath, yes, yes, yes.
In the bigger picture, in the bigger picture, okay?
That's good.
If you look at, you know, the fact that many of the things that we think we know are not at all what they truly are or what they truly were.
And what we're dealing with is an age of deception that is so powerful.
The one thing that's missing that we all need more of is good, high quality discernment between what is a made up story.
Getting harder and harder with, you know, artificial intelligence and, you know, the ability to copy someone's voice, copy someone's image and, and create stories that are totally, totally false.
But I've witnessed it on a personal level where, you know, I've had a conversation with somebody talking about the WHO.
And then I'd literally watch them turn around and try to repeat what I said to them to the next person and immediately mangle it.
Thank you.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Bill Cooper, years ago, said with this new world order, a world government, if it was so benevolent for all of mankind, why don't we have a democratic vote in it for ourselves and what we want instead of letting this select, unique, elite group do it for us?
Yeah, because we have no input.
Nice, nice, nice.
James, it's been a real pleasure having you here today.
Keith, you were at your finest.
I thought this was an excellent exchange between the two of you and that it was good to let you run your course with that intervention by me.
I thought it was very successful and we're going to pick it up with you again, James, a week from now on the Hippocratic Oath.
I'm so pleased you brought it up.
Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about.