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The Raw Deal (12 April 2024) with John Carman featuring Alen Salerian, M.D.

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	Not just any father.
	You know, I need someone.
	You're so much younger than today.
	I never need anybody's help anyway.
	Oh, but now these days are gone and I'm not so self-assured.
	But I'll find a change of mind, an open door.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you please, please help me?
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, joined today, Friday, by my co-host, John Karman, who, of course, is former Secret Service, U.S.
	Customs, and a whole host of other background, making him especially appropriate for discussion of the subject we have today, where I anticipate being joined by Alan Salarian, M.D., who is a Former top shrink for the FBI, the head of their rapid response teams in the past, was celebrated, even lionized, in Washington D.C.
	for his expertise, and still he began exposing CDC fudgy numbers to create the impression of an opioid epidemic that was not, in fact, taking place, at which point he became subject to a
	Massive assault, armed FBI agents raided his home, froze his financial account, seized his three Mercedes, took all of his computers, subjected him to horrific abuse.
	He's a guy I admire tremendously.
	He's got a keen interest in JFK.
	He's done a series of paintings.
	About the assassination that were also appropriated and have been sold on eBay some as high as $5,000.
	I have one on my wall of Elm Street, which I admire.
	He's a wonderful man subjected to tremendous abuse.
	I'm hoping he'll be here as soon as possible because I want to begin with one of the most famous murder cases in American history, namely O.J.
	Simpson, where we have a new report now.
	O.J.
	Giroir admits innocent verdict was revenge for Rodney King.
	Get this.
	Has justice been dead in this country for years?
	Has O.J.' 's death brought new light on this as well as reveal how biased the jury was?
	The bod trail went from the dead bodies of the victims at one of their homes all the way to O.J.' 's and his bedroom and bathroom.
	Despite amount of evidence, O.J.
	was declared innocent.
	So the years went by.
	He enjoyed freedom.
	Freedom, they came to an end Thursday, April 11, after, of course, a period of incarceration, because he was found guilty, not during the criminal trial, but during the civilian trial that followed, where a far more competent attorney presented the case than Marsha Clark.
	As I have admitted before, Marsha committed a massive blunder because the most important witness admitted an intersection in between Nicole's home and O.J.' 's estate when a minor traffic jam ensued.
	A white Bronco without the lights on came out, and the driver started yelling and screaming for everyone to get out of his way, and it was O.J.
	Simpson!
	And because she had sold her soul, her story, to a tabloid—I think it probably was the National Enquirer for five grand—Marsha Clark refused to put her on the stand!
	This was insulting and absurd!
	Marsha having an excessive sense of legal propriety that because this witness had sold her story, she was incredible.
	Look at this.
	One of the jurors admitted during an interview, do you think there were members of the jury who voted to acquit O.J.
	because of Rodney King?
	Yes.
	How many felt that way?
	Probably 90%.
	Did you feel that way?
	Yes.
	That was payback.
	Huh?
	You think that's right?
	Shoulder shrug.
	To those who don't know, Rodley King was filmed March 3, 1991, being attacked by police officers.
	The video led to a trial, and when the officer was pronounced not guilty, the L.A.
	riots began.
	Here we have a video.
	Let's play this.
	Do you think that they're members of the jury that voted to acquit O.J.
	because of Rodney King?
	Yes.
	You do?
	Yes.
	How many of you think felt that way?
	Oh, probably 90% of us.
	90%?
	Did you feel that way?
	Yes.
	That was payback?
	You think that's right?
	Fascinating!
	Fascinating!
	John, give me your thoughts and reaction to that already.
	My opinion was the evidence was simply overwhelming.
	I didn't see any doubt.
	There is a theory floated by a guy did a video.
	I think he's an attorney saying OJ's guilty, but not a murderer.
	We suggested it was OJ's son, Jason, who committed the crime, but this was so vicious.
	I don't think anyone but an O.J.
	hyped up on meth could have actually committed these murders as they were done.
	They were so savage.
	Where it appears, you know, he was so paranoid about Nicole, he was so jealous, that he was spying on her all the time.
	And I think when he came over, she'd lit all these candles in her bathroom.
	You know, round her top, which is something she did before a romantic, uh, liaison.
	And he was immediately says, well, she went to Ron Goldman showed up at the door allegedly to return her glasses.
	And John, my opinion is that was their signal.
	Nicole would deliberately leave her glasses.
	They need to have the pretext to come by to return the glasses for them to continue their affair.
	And, uh, I think Nicole came up, and she heard an initial exchange between O.J.
	and Ron, and he hit her on the head with the end of his knife, knocking her unconscious.
	Then he sliced and diced Ron, and then realizing Nicole, when she awakened, would be a witness, he slit her throat so viciously, virtual decapitation.
	Give me your thoughts.
	Yeah, I studied that case.
	And as I mentioned earlier off the air, I was working at the border at U.S.
	Customs waiting for the vehicle to show up by chance from L.A.
	And I had a piece of paper with the white Bronco on it and a license plate and all that.
	But I reviewed that case very particularly You know, Van Netter supposedly had vials of blood that he had samples and doing stuff, and then Mark Furman, and the extreme brutality of the fact that how a knife or an edged weapon was used.
	And yet, he did have a son that was supposedly a butcher.
	And I go, those guys butcher stuff all day long.
	It's not a big deal.
	They know how to use it.
	No different than certain martial arts people would.
	You know, I mean, if you know how to use a tool, use it for one thing.
	But if you use it emotionally, it's like this person who got killed, a lady got killed by a rapist.
	And the suspect, I won't say the individual ever on a show, ever.
	It's a suspect, folks.
	The guy stabbed the female like 50 times.
	You know, in martial arts, it only takes one cut, and that's it, if you know what you're doing.
	But these people are emotionally violent, and that's part of the thing there.
	But to cut it to the point where it was almost severed is extreme.
	But I always had some doubts about that case.
	There were still a lot of technical doubts, tampering of evidence, and things like that.
	But no matter what, it was vicious.
	But in the bottom line, in the bottom sense of the comment and the question is, It doesn't matter what you're doing to decide a case, and you never decide because, well, we need to give one back to the other guys.
	We need to sacrifice this one for what they did to Rodney King.
	That's BS.
	I don't believe in that.
	It's either he's guilty or he's not.
	It's a separate case, and that's it.
	Rodney King later died of an overdose in another situation years later.
	But it's just the idea that when these people do that, justice goes out the window.
	There's no purpose to it.
	Well, John, bear in mind, I mean, anyone who's seen a brutal assault on Rodney King, I mean... Oh, I saw it.
	Yeah, he was probably hit a hundred times by five different cops with their batons swinging as hard as they could.
	Now, Rodney was a big guy.
	Yeah.
	But I mean it was absurd.
	What they did to try to defend him was slow it down and try to discount each of the swings and it didn't do that much harm.
	I mean what bullshit!
	I mean that was just ridiculous, John.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	And I'm highly trained.
	And if I take somebody down, martial arts, if I have to escalate to a baton or something like that, But nine times out of ten, I've always used martial arts.
	I always get a hold of the hands.
	That's all you have to do is get a hold of the hands.
	If the guy's refusing to comply, you get his wrist.
	It's real simple.
	I've done it hundreds and hundreds of times.
	They get cuffed up.
	No harm.
	You search him.
	You put him in the back of the car with the other two guys that complied.
	That's it.
	No, they pulled out their batons.
	If you hit a guy with a baton over and over again, and you intentionally do something to hurt him, You could break bones, clavicles, arms, wrists.
	If you take it with two hands and hit a certain part of the body, you're doing some brutal stuff there.
	It didn't look right.
	It looked like it was almost set up.
	These guys are stupid.
	But I've seen stupid cops that will try to get involved in something After I already cuffed somebody up and chased a guy down, and the guy comes over like he's going to whale out, I put my hand up to block him.
	Just like Carrie O'Horn.
	Famous case in New York.
	And she got exonerated later after they effed with her life and her career.
	Same thing with Chris Dorner.
	LAPD who tried to block the assault by a white female training officer.
	He gets fired because he did the right thing.
	So there's a lot of corruption.
	I've reported the same stuff even in the government agencies.
	So I agree.
	They overdid that.
	They should have never done it what they did.
	It was wrong.
	And those guys got off.
	And yet they were acquitted!
	Yes!
	They got off!
	I couldn't believe it.
	It's absurd that they were acquitted.
	I couldn't believe it, John.
	No, that was not justice.
	That was just crazy.
	And they should have been charged just like the other ones in the Eric Chauvin case.
	Yeah, I'd love to get Allen's...
	Take on O.J.
	I mean, I was hoping he'd be here already.
	I would encourage him to join.
	Maybe he's waiting to the bottom of the hour.
	I have another story, by the way, about O.J.
	from the Babylon Bee, which is, you know, so brilliant in their satire.
	Here we have it.
	O.J.
	Simpson excited for God to tell him who the real killer was.
	U.S.
	O.J.
	Simpson has passed away from cancer at the age of 76.
	According to sources from the afterlife, the former football star is looking forward to asking God if he really killed his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.
	I've been racking my brains for decades trying to figure out who may have done it, Ted Simpson.
	It'll be great to have all my questions finally laid to rest.
	I really can't imagine who might have committed such a crime.
	At publishing time, O.J.
	Simpson's request unfortunately remained unanswered after a majority black jury declared him not dead.
	Oh, John, I tell you, the Babylon Bee is hilarious.
	Give us your further thoughts.
	I mean, did you ever have serious doubt about whether O.J.
	were the responsible party or not?
	Well, I watched the case.
	Now, remember, the level of evidence is much more critical in a criminal case as opposed to a civil case, which means you could sue them And the level is much lower.
	So that means that you could go in there and say, well, this, that, and the other happened.
	All they wanted to do is get a judgment against him and they took away all of his life savings type of thing, you know, in the millions or whatever it was.
	Then they went after him again in Vegas.
	And he had a team of people get involved in getting some property back.
	That was like a jumping board to go after him again.
	So he was targeted and targeted because they couldn't get him on the criminal case.
	But it almost reminds me about the Bill Cosby case where they went after and killed his son because he was one of the richest black men that was going to take over a whole network.
	They wanted to block him from doing that.
	I don't know what OJ was doing.
	He was a very famous guy.
	How many times did you ever watch the Naked Guns series with Nielsen or whatever when he played a cop?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Funny as hell.
	And you go, wait a minute.
	Here's the contrast.
	He's playing a cop.
	And then later, he gets involved in doing a homicide, you know, and he couldn't do the glove.
	He couldn't put the glove on.
	You know, I just happen to have a prop right here, because I get cold, you know, because of my diabetes.
	You know, here's, here's the glove test.
	You know, I can't get it on, right?
	Well, if it's that small, it's unusual.
	Well, maybe it was somebody else's.
	But then, remember his chauffeur?
	I can't think of his name.
	Cato?
	Was it Cato?
	Well, there was Cato Cailin, which is his pool guy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he's supposed to be talking about how they were burning clothes, and he had a small defense wound, maybe, somewhere on his hand.
	And if you ever get attacked, folks, you know, you get attacked with a knife.
	There's a prop right there.
	You know, you better defend yourself and no matter what, it'll come up.
	Something comes up with that stuff, but it's horrendous.
	You know, the forensics and stuff behind it, but it doesn't match his profile.
	You know what I mean?
	It doesn't match.
	So, other people were saying they thought it might have been a relative and he was trying to protect his relative.
	I did not imagine profile.
	He was, he was up on meth.
	He was jealous.
	He was paranoid.
	I mean, I think it fits a hundred percent.
	And of course we know as far as the glove is concerned, one glove was found at her place in Brantwood, the other on his estate in Rockingham.
	And, and they had the blood on there.
	They pulled a stunt in court, John, because These were skin tight, pitting gloves, but they had, they had OJ put on latex gloves.
	So they wouldn't exactly, which made it impossible for them to fit.
	And then Johnny Cochran says, you know, the gloves don't fit.
	You must quit.
	What, what Robbie is, what does that what bullshit, but that was the sensational development of the trial, the pivotal moment.
	Well, I don't watch cases on my spare time.
	I don't have spare time to look at cases.
	That's a special case.
	I would look at it daily and very meticulously about every little thing that they did.
	And if you watch other cases on the, you know, on the news or other court trials, you know, and you can see all the other famous people and all these other attorneys.
	I won't mention the ambulance chasers.
	Then you see where they really mess up in the cases.
	I mean, even the Kyle Rittenhouse case, the judge should have thrown the case out.
	They altered evidence.
	They should have slammed those prosecutors who were obviously left wingers.
	But John, he was acquitted!
	He was acquitted!
	Oh, I know, I know, but you don't want to put somebody through the pain and suffering of going through that.
	Well, it was a fascinating development, because you had three, they just happened to all be Jewish, trying to kill them out there, which is further undermining, you know, what we're undergoing here in America.
	We're being destroyed.
	By a Jewish cabal, George Soros, on the one hand domestically, Bibi Netanyahu, foreign entanglements on the other, destroying America and all this.
	These convoys, John, I have video where you have these convoys bringing these illegals in on the door.
	They have the Star of David.
	What astonished me about Kyle Reynolds, he was only like 17 to use that weapon with such alacrity.
	The guy was really, really good.
	And he killed two and wounded a third and they were trying to kill him, hit him over the head with a skateboard.
	One actually had a gun.
	I mean, that was such a wonderful case, the way it all developed and panned out.
	A legal expert who has gone through every aspect and proving how in every single case it was justifiable self-defense, because there were three or four different engagements involved here.
	But that guy, in my opinion, is an all-American hero.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, there's a lot of cases over the last 10, 15 years I've monitored where they made decisions and you get attacked.
	And at some point, one guy was on the ground, the ground and pound thing.
	He finally pulled a gun out and shot because he was going to get killed or something.
	But there's a lot of standards, you know, if you've got a weapon or not, and all these other things.
	They hold black belts to a higher standard, by the way, so don't tell people you're a black belt.
	Speak from experience, because martial arts is real serious.
	But they always play that game, you know.
	But they'll twist anything around to do whatever they want to do to get out of it politically, you know.
	Yeah.
	What was it?
	There was another case we were talking about, not just Rodney King and Kyle.
	There was another case you mentioned.
	Oh, yeah, right, right.
	We'll get into Reagan and all that when hopefully Alan joins us because he hasn't.
	Yeah, I made a few notes.
	I want to make sure he's on when I start talking about the connection with the poisons and the stuff that they use.
	Because, you know, being in Secret Service, we are taught about many methods of how you may come across And they still don't do it to the nth degree like I would.
	Poison is number one at the top.
	John, why don't you see if you can get a hold of Al while I review another story.
	Oh, let me see if I got his number here.
	Hold on.
	I think you do.
	I think I gave it to you, right?
	Yeah.
	We have Harris accusing Moscow of implying that the French Secret Service helped Terrorists in the concert area.
	That's a good one.
	Meanwhile, the U.S.
	is transferring weapons seized in the Middle East to Ukraine, and that they've concealed undercounted Ukrainians, many by $14 billion, that Israel has killed the sons and grandchildren of the Hamas political bureau leader they already assassinated, that Bibi announces he's planning to expand his war outside of Gaza.
	Let's check this out from UNZ.com, which is the hottest website in the world today.
	Breaking!
	Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says his country is preparing for scenarios in other arenas, claiming whoever hurts us, we hurt them.
	Right now, BB's fighting a war.
	It's not an actual war.
	There is no serious enemy.
	He's basically just slaughtering kids.
	A MOS does exist, of course, and they do shoot rockets, sometimes blow up tanks, but the IDF rarely confronts them on the ground.
	The overwhelming majority of operations are bombings of civilian targets.
	That's been the case for seven months.
	Now he's planning to invade Lebanon.
	This is going to be an actual war.
	In fact, it's a war the Jews lost in 2006.
	Presumably, there is no plan to repeat that loss, and the Jews may well use so-called tactical nukes.
	They will presumably level Beirut almost as badly as they've leveled Gaza.
	The Biden administration has made it abundantly clear that this will be allowed and will be supported unconditionally.
	The attacks on Lebanon will trigger a direct response from Iran, which will allow Israel to escalate with Iran and then drag the U.S.
	into the war.
	At least that is the plan.
	It is obviously the plan.
	Who knows if it's all going to unfold like that.
	I don't know.
	There are things that could happen to prevent it, including Turkey mobilizing.
	But no one can deny that this is the entire thinking of Bibi.
	And if you want to find out about where the U.S.
	stands, there you have Brandon pledges ironclad support for Israel.
	U.S.
	President Joe Biden.
	Iran is threatening to launch a significant attack on Israel.
	Oh, wonderful.
	Here he is.
	But as I told Netanyahu, our commitment to Israel's security against these threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad.
	We will do all we can to protect Israel's security.
	I'm very pleased we're being joined by Alan Solarian.
	Alan, my dear friend, we've missed you.
	I wanted to get your comments on the O.J.
	Simpson case right off the bat before we turn to JFK.
	Would you give us your thoughts?
	And I've already introduced you.
	Top shrink for the FBI, the head of the Rapid Response Team, and what happened when, even though you were being lionized at the time in Washington, the most celebrated shrink in the city, that when you began to expose CDC fraudulent statistics on an opioid crisis that was non-existent, they raided your home, seized all your computers, your three Mercedes, froze your bank account, and it was very downhill from there, Alan.
	I honor you as a great American for your courage to stand up to the authorities.
	And now I just thought before we turn to your assessment of the death of JFK, and John, by the way, here is former Secret Service, former U.S.
	Customs, and he's very familiar with lechettes and the like, Al, and I think you're going to really enjoy interacting with him.
	Give us initially your take on OJ, if you would be so kind.
	Yeah, we all watched O.J.
	and a lot of drama.
	I think if you put the pieces together, you know that he was guilty, but for political reasons and other manipulations, he was found not guilty.
	And it's sad, it's even sad now that he dies and there's no recognition of his victims.
	Nicole and Rod Goldman, yeah.
	It's very unfortunate.
	In some ways, I think historically it was very useful to address and expose Uh, racial divisions and conflicts in our country.
	Stand by, stand by, we got a break, we got a break, and then we'll continue with Alan Solarian and John Carmen on OJ and JFK.
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	Well, this is Jim Fetzer with Alan Solari, the former top shrink for the FBI, and John Carmen, former Secret Service.
	We're going to be turning to Alan's analysis of the JFK assassination.
	Before we get there, however, we're talking about Rodney King and Alan Solerian.
	You missed, but I had an open story about a juror saying that the innocent verdict was in retaliation for Rodney King and that he himself and others voted to acquit O.J.
	in retaliation.
	Does that surprise you?
	No, it doesn't surprise me.
	I think it was very evident that the evidence did not matter.
	It was very clear about his guilt, but it's also historically true that African Americans have been discriminated against in our justice system.
	So, in some ways, this was a triumph or change or evolution knowing that even a guilty person may have fantastic legal representation and outsmart the system.
	I noticed this, I was in a partnership, in a psychiatric partnership, with 30, 40 doctors, I would say, the exact number I don't remember now, but 20% were minority doctors.
	And in our group, I remember we all watched the JFK verdict, and all the African Americans celebrated.
	That tells the story.
	It has nothing to do, I think, with the reality.
	It shows some balance.
	John, you mentioned how, you know, of course, there was blood on the glove.
	O.J.
	had a nick on his hand.
	Very incriminating.
	You're saying when you're dealing with knife attacks, that's virtually inevitable.
	I wanted to ask the two of you about Tafari Campbell's death, because the day after, Oh, yeah.
	Barack Obama had bandages on his left hand.
	He had a black eye.
	Oh, yeah.
	Bob said he'd had an altercation with the Fari and that Barack Obama himself had been responsible for his death.
	And there's been no pursuit of this.
	I don't think a mainstream venue has even mentioned the prospect.
	And yet the whole thing was absurd.
	He was supposed to have drowned in three feet of water when he was actually a competent swimmer.
	They had a mysterious phone call I believe was made by Michelle.
	Turns out Barack was actually on the scene where the event occurred.
	I mean, all this dribbles out later and later and later after massive cover-ups.
	John, first your thoughts, then Alex.
	Being former Secret Service back in 74, right after Nixon left, it ain't what people think it is.
	I mean, I'm not going to downplay it too much, but there's a lot of secrets in the Secret Service, and they tend to cover up too.
	And I've reported stuff that people don't want to hear.
	I'm the guy that interviewed Hinckley, for Christ's sake.
	I'm the guy that actually contacted Hinckley in front of the White House At two in the morning, and he wants to see the president in 1976.
	That's five years before the assassination attempt later in March 30th, 81, and the duty agent failed to do his job.
	That's very interesting.
	He should have been shipped off to St.
	Elizabeth's Mental Hospital that night.
	By the way, Alan, he was mentioning he wanted to see the president with this real weird tone of voice, like, I want to see the president.
	You know, OK, well, what do you want to talk to about?
	Everybody wants to talk to the president.
	And they start going off about microwaves in his head.
	Then he talked about sexually related terms I don't usually repeat on the air.
	And then Jodie Foster.
	I said, oh, yeah, I got to get this guy in.
	Hold on.
	Come on over here.
	And I pat him down real quick, checked him out.
	Duty agent comes down.
	You know these duty agents?
	They come down in their business suits most of the time.
	They're on standby and they're on midnight shifts studying for their masters, you know, or reading books or looking at magazines or doing some other, you know, other duties.
	Yes.
	And as soon as he heard about Jody Foster, he says, Oh yeah, I want to talk to this guy.
	I said, good.
	You get him to St.
	Elizabeth's tonight.
	Spell my name correctly.
	C-A-R-M-A-N.
	And I got to go look for Carlos the Jackal.
	Ilias Ramirez Sanchez, who was still on the loose back then.
	Never happened.
	It didn't happen.
	Somebody grabbed him and used him.
	He shows up at the Hilton that day.
	And that kind of ties in with what they did to Reagan that they may have also done to JFK because and I and I know Cyril Wecht as a friend.
	I've talked to him for years.
	He's retired out at 93.
	But the stuff we mean, Jim, we're talking about this morning.
	You know, if you remember the old Man from U.N.C.L.E.
	series where they used certain rounds, they didn't kill people back in those days in the 66-67 series on television.
	They would hit them with a special flechette round that would shoot little darts to put you out.
	John, we're going to get on to all that, because you and Alan have a lot of overlapping views.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	First, first, first, I want to get Alan's take on the Tafari-Campbell death and the possible involvement of Barack Obama, Alan.
	Oh, yeah, the chef.
	You know, that's a topic I've not really studied, so I'd rather not comment on it.
	Whatever I say will be very superficial.
	So, I'll pass the question, because I don't know.
	Well, I'll comment.
	I watched the news about it, and I'm looking at the wounds on Obama.
	This guy was a perfectly in healthy shape guy, and there's no way he's going to drown in three feet of water unless he did it intentionally.
	So all the indicators are there that somehow he met some sort of a violent interaction with somebody, and maybe he got him down and held him long enough to get drowned.
	I mean, technically you could drown on a tablespoon of water by other definitions, but...
	It's all suspicious.
	Everything around Obama and Michelle.
	Oh, I'm sorry, I misspoke.
	I meant to say Michael.
	Because when they went to visit England and the Queen of England, God bless her, I actually protected the Queen of England, Elizabeth II, in 1976, you know, when they came to the White House for Gerald Ford and all that.
	You know, these water glasses, I'll hold up my cup as a sample, you know, prop here.
	Every time you take a drink, you're leaving saliva somewhere.
	They took the water glasses, they took them and put them in special plastic bags from the MI6 people, and they tested the saliva from Michelle's glass.
	The DNA comes up male, okay?
	So that's what the results were.
	So I go, okay, I get that.
	I don't care about that stuff, but people want to ask the question.
	I go, okay, yeah, they tested it.
	You know, you figure it out.
	Just like Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
	But still, to this day, nobody's done anything about it.
	That's the problem I have, is because they have U.S.
	passports, Mombasa or not.
	They're claiming Hawaii, 16 levels on a birth certificate, and they want to keep covering things up.
	When's it going to stop?
	You know what I mean?
	It's like a game.
	They're trying to push the envelope.
	Well, we could do better.
	We could get a trans president, such and such thing.
	You see what I mean?
	That's where they're pushing it.
	You know, maybe they'll get to a ball-looking individual.
	That's what they want to get to.
	You know, it gets into religious stuff, but... Time is on our side, because truth is on our side.
	So, eventually, all these things.
	But, you know, universe is no clock.
	This is an endless thing.
	God knows how long it would take.
	But time is on our side, so I hear you.
	Alan, I'm so pleased to have you here today.
	Many of us believe that a pivotal turning point in American history occurred in 1963 with the assassination of JFK, and things just have not been right ever since.
	I think the evidence is simply overwhelming, but we still have debates over exactly how it was done, which is One of the ways in which your work becomes significant about addressing what really happened And here we have, of course, the official narrative.
	Three shots from the sixth floor of the school book depository.
	The initial report, by the way, was with three hits.
	It said Jack was hit in the back about five and a half inches down below the collar, that Connolly was hit in the back, And then Jack was hit in the back of the head, killing him.
	That was the conclusion of the Secret Service and the FBI the day of the assassination.
	That evening, that was their report.
	Remarkably enough, That afternoon and evening, the major networks, such as NBC, were reporting two shots.
	One was a small clean puncture wound to the throat.
	That was reported by Dr. Malcolm Perry, where he three times during a Parkland press conference after his death, the death of the president was announced by Malcolm Kilduff, the acting press secretary, saying it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head while pointing to his right temple.
	And that shot too, so both of which were fired from in front.
	And so if you took what was being widely reported that day on radio and television in great detail, hour after hour after hour, with the reports of the two hits from behind, the back of the head and the back, then you actually get four hits to JFK, which have survived intact in my judgment.
	I mean, the government would like to suppress it.
	Frank McGee, by the way, on NBC that night, It was nobody's fool said when these reports started to dribble in that according to the FBI and the Secret Service, all the shots had been above and behind.
	He said, this is incongruous.
	How can the man have been shot from in front?
	Meaning the two shots they'd been reporting all day from behind, which of course was absurd.
	And I believe it was in the subconscious of the American people as to when All this went down.
	You know, they were glued to television.
	This was the event that made television indispensable in every household.
	When a year later, the Warren Commission report comes out and claims the shots were only from above and behind, I think subconsciously the public knew something was wrong.
	And of course, they even doctored the whole movie as the assassination.
	Here's an excellent version of the Zapruder film, which we know today the original was taken to the National Photographic Interpretation Center on Saturday.
	It was an 18mm already split film developed in Dallas, and they presented prepared briefing boards for the sequence of shots.
	But then Sunday, a second film was brought from Rochester.
	It was a 16mm unsplit film by an agent who identified himself as William Smith, and they made the substitution, created new briefing boards.
	This is the version that Smith brought to the Photographic Interpretation Center.
	And you notice there's a big jump right in the beginning because they don't show the motorcade turning from Houston on down.
	Big jump.
	And then, we have discovered now, there was a subsequent limousine stop that endured, I initially thought, only six seconds.
	It actually appears to have been as long as 20.
	So since this film was running at 18.3, And the limo turn represented about 100 frames.
	This later stopped 400.
	We're actually missing more frames than we have in the excellent version.
	But here is the excellent version.
	This is from the John B. Costello version.
	You can find it on my blog at AssassinationScience.com.
	And at AssassinationResearch.com.
	And if you just do a search on his name, John Costella, or John P. Costella, you'll find it.
	We know so much about what was faked here.
	I'm not going to address that in detail because Alan's work is so interesting in relation to the new book by David W. Mantink, who's the leading expert on the medical evidence in the world today.
	Who ascertained that in addition to that shot to the back of the head and the shot to the forehead, there was a shot to the side of the head that appears to David, and I agree, to have come from the curbside sewer opening.
	So he has his book.
	And I did a blog about it on UNZ.com, New Book Nails, How JFK Was Taken Out of Dallas, and I just checked today, it has over 600 comments!
	616 comments!
	Alan, I don't know if you've seen this thread, but I mean, it's extensive!
	And some of those participants are saying this is the best discussion of JFK they've ever seen!
	Since my, in my JFK special of 18 November 2021, I mistakenly asserted the additional fifth hit was to the left hand ball.
	Let me correct that impression.
	At my earliest opportunity, I've now read the pages of David's new book available online, as well as chapter 18 of Larry Revere's JFK Horseman of 2018, which I highly recommend.
	I've also verified with David his five hits are the following.
	One, Hip to the back, five and a half inches below the collar, just to the right of the spinal column.
	Second, hip to the throat, with the pass of the windshield in route.
	Third, hit the back of the head near the external occipital protuberance, that's that little bump on the back of your head where you'd rest if you were reclining in a tub, causing him to slump forward.
	Fourth, hit the right temporal forehead from the triple underpass fifth, simultaneous with fifth.
	Hit just above the right ear with a frangible bullet from the curbside sewer opening where they're combined fourths.
	What a harbor fragment, this triangular chunk of skull and debris galore.
	In fact, Bobby Hargis, the officer riding to the left rear, was hit with this debris so hard he thought he himself had been shot.
	Now, Alan, You take exception and believe that a neurotoxin was involved, that it has somehow been missed, and with regard to the throat wound, you have an alternative interpretation based upon the following consideration.
	The small entry wound
	No neck exit wound, no cervical damage, negative comor test, signs of neurotoxin intoxication, vocal paralysis, no fight or flight response, delayed neurological death after catastrophic head injuries, no bruising of throat wound, no palar mortis, poison weapons, specific cover-up, washing off the limo before the president died, lost brain, lost tissue samples, alter wood wound, conclusion.
	Definitive evidence of a poisoned plushette.
	Alan, I want you to elaborate on all that and bring in John, too, because a plushette was used to shoot Ronald Reagan at the Hinckley shooting, though not by Hinckley, but rather by the Secret Service agent pushing him into the limousine.
	Alan, yours.
	Thank you.
	I think you made my presentation basically I've been convinced that the small throat wound was caused by a flash hit, but it might have been an ice pallet.
	So I'm not, that part I'm not certain.
	What I'm certain on medical grounds is that we have all the evidence of neurotoxin intoxication.
	This is because This particular neurotoxin, Soxhitoxin, has a very fast, short incubation period before it works.
	So, it works instantly.
	Okay?
	So, that fits the picture and the symptoms are compelling.
	That he was paralyzed, he was silent.
	Look at JFK, his behavior, and how he is responding to this ambush and to Governor Connolly.
	One is screaming and yelling and the other is totally silent.
	There's something called fight-and-flight response, which is very natural for all animals, including us.
	There's no fight-and-flight response.
	This is obvious.
	And that is probably the most telling symptom of neurotoxin poisoning.
	Other symptoms that are obvious?
	Neurological death.
	Yes, of course he was dead for all practical purposes right then.
	But he still had blood flowing and he had some signs, superficial signs of being alive by the time he was declared dead at Parkland Hospital.
	This is about 30 minutes.
	Again, it's an indirect support for neurotoxin poisoning.
	Neurotoxin, also this particular neurotoxin, specifically Soxitoxin, is known for its vascular effects of constriction.
	So, anti-bruising fits, no palomortis, that also clinically fits.
	Putting All these things together and now it's all statistics because it's like flipping a coin.
	You have a 50-50 percent chance.
	If you flip the coin and one side comes, 12 times in a row.
	This is identical to it, because if you compare the possibility of a glass wound versus this, the possibilities are 99.97% that S-oxytocin was involved.
	So, the cover-up evidence is also very, very, very telling.
	The lost brain.
	Why would anybody lose the brain?
	Because we already know the shots and so on.
	There's no purpose to it.
	The fact that tissue samples disappear, it's very alarming.
	It's a red flag.
	It's as red flag as the Secret service people washing off the limo before the president dies in the parking lot of Parkland Hospital.
	It's outrageous and it's on record.
	When you put these things together, they don't fit anything else, okay?
	There is a chemical cover-up.
	This is, again, a very strong point.
	I'm going to introduce my own personal experience because, as you thought and I thought, I thought all my troubles all these years were because of my attitude about the fake heroin crisis and the distorted, manipulated numbers of deaths attributed to narcotics and so on.
	In retrospect, I really only, I do believe that my JFK research, however minimal, you know, I've done very little.
	I'm now like, you guys, you've done fantastic things.
	Fantastic.
	David's work, your, Roberta's work.
	It's amazing.
	My contribution is nothing, is just one.
	So I write one article, goddamn article, that's published in Medical Hypotheses, a respectable journal, published by Elsevier, and guess what happens?
	The editor of Medical Hypotheses loses his job with false, false accusations.
	And thank you, Jim, I think at that time you and I wrote letters defending Bruce Charlton, What else?
	Then I'm a painter.
	I'm a painter because I've been in so much pain discovering this ugly shit from JFK, and all I paint is JFK's paintings in Oswald.
	What happens to them?
	I give an exhibition, a very successful exhibition in Dallas, and then they are auctioned off, 300 of them, and they disappear, and later they are sold on eBay.
	This is an accident.
	What else?
	My office is raided on March 11, 2011.
	An office raid and house raid where they shackled my wife and my daughter and all kinds of indignities.
	I leave it alone.
	What is striking is this.
	I was drugged.
	I put this together over time and realized that I was given something.
	I fell asleep.
	And when I woke up, I was being interviewed by an FBI agent.
	And the topic is my JFK research.
	For God's sake, this is supposedly a raid because I'm a drug dealer.
	The former chief of FBI now is accused of being a drug dealer.
	Okay.
	And using his office as a cover for drug trafficking.
	So, what does JFK Research have anything to do with it?
	There are questions and I'm interrogated.
	And thank God I took notes when I came home or the following day, and I remember this distinctly.
	So, what else?
	I was imprisoned.
	Imprisoned in a federal penitentiary for about four months without a trial.
	I've never known any doctor, any psychiatrist, to end up in a prison without a trial, with quite a many excuses.
	Mickey Mouse accuses, okay, because of a false article written by Ariel Sabar in Washingtonian that painted me as a dangerous, crazy psychiatrist practicing.
	And so the judge orders me to a federal prison.
	And guess what happens in prison?
	I got raped and I was put in solitary confinement.
	Now, all these things, I will not know the details.
	I think there was also a possibility that there was a rumor that I was A snitch for FBI.
	So, that might have explained the last, but that's it.
	Little detail.
	The point is, I had no business of spending time in a federal prison.
	I was not suicidal.
	I was not homicidal.
	There was no logic for a man like me to end up in prison in that dungeon.
	Okay?
	And lastly, I lost my medical license.
	After practicing for 40 years, and guess why?
	Totally false accusations that a patient of mine had died of methadone overdose, for God's sake.
	How?
	The blood levels show that methadone was within normal limits, blood test.
	What else you want?
	And the autopsy shows that this unfortunate fellow, Kennedy, by the way, his name, died of a congenital heart disease.
	Alan, we'll be right back after this break with Alan Solarian, former top shrink with the FBI, and John Carman, former Secret Service agent, discussing the death of JFK.
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	Well, I'm interviewing my dear friend and student of JFK, Alan Solarian, former the top shrink for the FBI.
	And we have John Carman here, my co-host on Friday's former Secret Service, Alan.
	but What I find most persuasive about your report of your experience, which I hear reported as soon as the FBI retaliating for your expose that the CDC was fabricating numbers to support an opioid epidemic, that it may have been instead in retaliation for your discussion of the use of a neurotoxin on JFK, is that they fired the editor of the Journal!
	I mean, that is absurd!
	I have a great deal of editorial experience, major editorial boards of journals in philosophy, philosophy of science.
	I founded an international journal.
	I mean, I'm telling you, this is virtually unheard of.
	And the fact that it was so contrived, the claims were so artificial, and that they were questioning you about your JFK research, not what you'd expose about CDC falsifying statistics.
	That is, to me, really powerful evidence.
	John, your thoughts.
	Would you agree?
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, I was listening carefully to what Alan said, and I see the same patterns even in my own case, because once you become a whistleblower or you have access to certain information that you're revealing the truth about, they tend to come after you with the most ludicrous charges Put you away, and that's supposed to be a way of them saying, hey, do you get the point?
	No, they never have those conversations with you.
	They do it anyway to scare you off, even to the point of suicide, put you in prison, and all these other things, and it's outrageous what they do.
	But yet, that's the whole point, and they think they're not giving themselves away.
	Not once did ever anybody come up to you, or me, or maybe even Dr. Salarian, and say, hey, look, We want you to keep quiet about that because you're touching areas that need to be kept quiet.
	Never, ever.
	They just go ahead, they put them away.
	In some cases, there was a lot of doctors who were exposing stuff about COVID or something, and we're talking about neurotoxins and poisons.
	Yeah, they don't want people to know they could poison people at the drop of a dime.
	That's kind of a facetious comment, but that's why I always compared the flechettes about the size of a dime, like the one that was allegedly used by a CIA operative shooting at Reagan after Hinckley had already fired off six rounds.
	And then he gets hit when he's got his arm up, which is after the rounds are gone.
	So they don't want us to know these little secrets.
	You know, even the poison dart frog, which I used to compare, the Amazons would use it to put it on the tips of their arrow.
	And then they rub it on the back of the skin because the type of ants or the insects that the poison dart eats results in a poison oil that comes out on their skin.
	And then when they shoot it into a monkey specifically, it paralyzes him.
	Well, what a better way to hit a target is to paralyze it so he doesn't move or duck down and catch him off guard.
	Oblivious to what's happening.
	He doesn't know what's happening, and then keeps shooting at him.
	It sounds perfect.
	It's exactly what I think happened, you know.
	So you got a supporter here in John Carman.
	Thank you.
	I also... How I can argue against David's glass-shard theory is also obvious to me this way, that is, JFK suffered facial wounds.
	They were caused by glass shards, but they were irregular superficial cuts.
	They were not like the posterior wound or the throat wound, which is small and round.
	That's a big difference.
	And to me, it's a checkmate.
	Now, about the posterior wound, Ralph Zink argues that that was a fleshed wound, or ice pellet, he thinks.
	But because the copper test was positive, then we can conclude that there was a bullet involved.
	But guess what?
	A bullet was also found, like there were four or five bullets found in the limousine, One of them was specifically in the clothing, in the back clothing of Jeff Gay.
	Yeah, Alan, here we have your additional remarks about windshield crack.
	Actually, there was a through-hole.
	Why bullets found in the limousine?
	You're going to need to expand on that, because if you mean parts of bullets, I would agree.
	Trajectory consistent with headshot, number two.
	Yeah, I think we agree.
	Now, this is from notes about An interview with Thomas Evan Robinson, who is a mortician who's spent the most time with the body of anyone, describing the wounds.
	Large gaming hole in back of head, passed by stretching piece of rubber.
	He thinks it was full of pastramaris.
	Smaller wound in the right temple.
	Crescent-shaped flap down.
	This is a skull flap at the side of the head about three inches that David and I agree, believe was caused by The exploding round fired from the side, from the curbside sewer opening.
	Here's now what you're addressing.
	Approximately two small shrapnel wounds in the face.
	He backed with wax.
	Wound in the back.
	Five to six inches below the shoulder to the right of the back bone.
	Adrenaline gland and brain removed.
	Other organ removed and then put back.
	No swelling or discoloration of face.
	Died instantly, which you have alluded to as well.
	Alan, maybe tell us, I mean just to elaborate, here's a Here's the Alton 6, which is the most important photograph we have of the assassination.
	Jack appears to be clutching his throat in the background.
	And if you look right here, where his left ear would be of his left ear, we're visible.
	We have a small white spiral nebula.
	Indicative of a through hole in the windshield.
	Here you can see it more clearly with an arrow.
	Yes, the Secret Service later presented a windshield.
	It was actually a third because the limousine had been sent back to Ford.
	It had been replaced with a brand new windshield, but the Secret Service would later claim this windshield with spider cracks Was the one on the limousine in Dallas, which was not the case.
	And of course, we even have in frame 225, you can see where the bullet hole went through the windshield.
	Ellen, pick up anywhere you like on that.
	Okay, I think these are very good points.
	I don't, I believe that there were many frontal shots, including the crack that we see in the windshield.
	Where, what I'm saying is, that doesn't prove that that is directly because of the throat shot.
	And that I am eliminating, based upon the evidence that David offered, That the throat shot was not caused by a bullet because we don't have cervical damage, because we don't have a neck exit wound, and because it's copper negative.
	Okay.
	Independent of it, we have all kinds of evidence, really compelling evidence, statistical evidence, that the chances are 99.9% in seven, that a Toxitoxin or Neurotoxin was crucial.
	So, there is, at the risk of repeating myself, The wounds from facial wounds that David also observes, that president, the glass shard wounds are very different than the throat wound.
	One is round and simple and clean.
	The others are cuts, superficial cuts.
	The mortician's report further supports my hypotheses That Soxhitoxin is involved because one of the specific effects is vasoconstriction.
	No bruising because of Soxhitoxin.
	That also goes along with my argument about delayed death.
	JFK should have been dead right then.
	There should be no heart pumping, no breathing, nothing.
	Right that instant.
	This is basic medical thing.
	How can they still have some evidence that blood was flowing as reported by the doctors?
	Let me offer a further discussion about what we're discussing here.
	Chuck Crenshaw, Charles Crenshaw, was present during the effort to revive JFK at Parkland, drew these diagrams of the appearance of the throat wound before and after the tracheostomy incision, which are consistent with Dr. Perry's description as a wound of entry.
	Small clean wound puncture, small clean wound puncture with a line through it because of the incision.
	We've already been reviewing Thomas Evan Robinson's.
	I won't go back except to say David inferred those small shrapnel wounds in the face that he had to plug because they were leaking embalming fluid from the bullet passing through the windshield and releasing them.
	He has established, by the way, that the official Trajectory of a bullet entering the base of the back of the neck and exiting the throat is anatomically impossible because cervical vertebrae intervene, but of course it also implies that a bullet had it entered the front of the throat would not have been able to exit the back of the neck because cervical vertebrae intervene.
	Here are further points that are made by Alan.
	The posterior wound five inches below the collar, actually five and a half.
	He suggests it's a small entry wound, either a flechette or a bullet.
	Copper positive means bullet.
	No exit wound, a flechette.
	No bullet in the x-rays, flechette.
	A bullet on a JFK's clothing, flechette.
	Signs of neurotoxin intoxication of Lochette.
	Poison Whim Specific Cobra Lochette Conclusion.
	Very likely caused by a poison Lochette.
	My opinion is highly unlikely.
	Here we have the jacket JFK was wearing at the time.
	Here we have the shirt JFK was working and wearing at the time.
	David had members of the staff put on the shirt and the jacket, found the hole in the shirt was slightly below the hole in the jacket.
	Here we have Boswell's diagram showing a wound here about five and a half inches below the collar on the back.
	This is perhaps very important in this context because there were two FBI agents present during the autopsy, James Seabert and a fellow named O'Neill.
	Seabert drew a diagram showing the wound to the throat was above the wound to the back.
	Meanwhile, Here we have Admiral Berkey composing a death certificate on JFK, saying how he was struck in the head but not otherwise describing it, and that a second wound occurred at the posterior back about the level of the third thoracic vertebrae.
	He did add the head wound involved the evisceration of the right hemisphere of the brain.
	He's not talking about the blowout at the back of the head, which is where it occurred.
	Their thoracic vertebrae is very much the same location where we see in the shirt and the jacket.
	Even the Warren Commission, when it did a reenactment, used a large round patch to represent where they were now claiming the bullet had entered the back, and a much smaller one at the head.
	You know, this separated the back wound from the back of the head wound when they did a reconstruction.
	And here you have Arlen Spector using a pointer to show how the bullet that went in the back of the neck is supposed to have hit John Connolly in the back, but the patch on the back refutes the theory all by itself.
	We also have evidence.
	Roy Schabert discovered that the bullet that hit him in the back passed through the windshield, and we know, of course, Gerald Ford redescribed the wound.
	From the uppermost back, which was already an exaggeration, to the base of the back of the neck in an effort to make the magic bullet hypothesis appear more plausible.
	Here are other elements of Alan's position.
	The head bullet shot number one posterior.
	A fragment trail from the EOP to the right parietal bone presents a debris on the hood ornament fired from the Daltex.
	Conclusion.
	Definitive evidence of a posterior entry bullet shot.
	Head bullet shot number two.
	Striking above the right eye near the hairline from the triple overpass.
	Definitive evidence of a frontal entry bullet shot.
	Head bullet shot number three.
	Right temple from grassy knoll.
	I think that's a mistake, David.
	I think you meant, Alan, curbside sewer opening, but it may be your view is it was fired from the grassing hole.
	In any case, you take that to be definitive evidence of another frontal, or in this case, side bullet hole.
	Here's, of course, Malcolm Kilduff announcing the president's death as a simple matter of a bullet right to the head.
	Alan, yours.
	Okay, I think I would stick to my point that the altered, even the alteration of the throat wound is consistent with a flasheck wound.
	Okay?
	That's a very important element.
	About the posterior wound, I would like to comment this.
	If it were a bullet, where did the bullet go?
	Because we're not seeing it in the x-ray where there was no evidence.
	The bullet actually entered and then we have the evidence that there was a bullet in the clothing.
	So it's possible that a posterior from back, a bullet came but did not penetrate the skin and just fell down.
	That increases the likelihood of toxitoxin, neurotoxin flashing entering Posteriorly, from back, but I surrender to this reality that I'm convinced, based upon medical evidence, that JFK was poisoned by neurotoxin.
	I'm not as certain about exactly when.
	I'm certain that the clinical picture is unmistakable for neurotoxin poisoning.
	Because we have the throat wound so perfectly fitting anything else with Toxotoxin, then I say it's a checkmate because we have both of them.
	We have the cover-up evidence, we have the clinical evidence, and we have A small entry wound on the throat, beautifully, in fact, described previously, not the wound, but the weapon, by William Colby in his testimony.
	For God's sake, why would William Colby volunteer such sensitive information?
	It cannot.
	I mean, every word he uttered in that testimony was a coded word referencing to JFK's assassination.
	He brings that article is beautiful in terms of demonstrating how it was done, but that's not my expertise.
	I'm not going there.
	I'm only using that as backup To supplement my discussion, being that clinical evidence as a doctor, when you look at this picture, you see an acute neurotoxin poisoning before the fatal head shots.
	Let me say, just for the audience, that Alan is referring to testimony before the Church Committee, where they did establish the CIA had a gun that fired the poison clichés and all that.
	I'm not disputing that whatsoever.
	There is, however, what I believe to be a far more plausible explanation that doesn't require the use of the exotic bomb on an account that is consistent with the other evidence we have.
	Bob Livingston, MD, World Authority on the Human Brain and an expert on wound ballistics, having supervised an emergency medical hospital for injured Okinawans and Japanese prisoners of war during the Battle of Okinawa, told me he believed the bullet had hit a bony structure and fragment that was shot to the throat.
	Hit a bony structure and fragment that was shot to the throat.
	Part going upward to sever the tough membrane that covers a cerebellum known as a tentorium part downward into the light.
	Where we find bruising from its removal, where the body was taken to Walter Reed before it arrived at Bethesda.
	And let me add that if that were the case, I suspect it would have done damage to Jack that would have been equivalent to a paralysis.
	He's, of course, clutching his throat, Bob said he believed that was indeed the Thorburn complex.
	I'm surprised we're getting interference here.
	But I believe that's more plausible.
	In fact, Sam Kinney, who was the driver of the San Francisco Cadillac, was given a bucket of water and a sponge to wash the blood and brains out of the back seat, to which you've alluded, Alan, and reported to his neighbor he found a whole slug there, which he took inside and left on the stretcher, where it would later be discovered to become the magic bullet.
	But there wasn't a magic bullet.
	Alan, go ahead.
	I'm getting feedback, oddly enough.
	Alan, go ahead.
	I think if Dr. Livingston were alive, he would have agreed with me.
	If as a doctor, Dr. Livingston would have said that, yes, this is a small entry wound, and because there is no cervical damage, because there is no cervical damage, And because there is no exit wound, it was not a bullet wound.
	And the clinical symptoms, the clinical symptoms would have convinced any doctor, then or now, that there was a saxitoxin poisoning.
	Alan, one of the reasons, of course, they wanted to take the body to the Bethesda is because Jack was a former naval officer.
	They had his medical records there.
	And just as David established medical records of X-rays galore, it would have been easy to sub in, not just a chest X-ray, but a JFK chest X-ray that obscured, that removed the damage done by hitting a bony structure.
	I do not believe Bob would have changed his analysis at all.
	I'm interested in getting John in on this.
	John, give us your thoughts.
	I was getting a little feedback there.
	I wanted to show a comparison of what I think a flechette would look like in a dime shape.
	I don't know if you guys can see it up close.
	That's a dime right here, and off to the side, which is very, very small.
	And if they put that in a special device or gun and put edges on jagged edges, you could put ricin in it.
	You could put polonium on jagged edges or toxin, which is probably no bigger than the nail is your finger.
	You know, it's a small... If someone happens to be muted here, if you just mute yourself, because we're getting the feedback, I think, because you're there.
	We're getting the feedback, I think.
	David Mandink, we may be lucky enough that he'll join us.
	David Mandink, we may be lucky enough.
	On Zoom, I'm hoping.
	Anyway, John, continue.
	You're talking about the size of... Anyway, John.
	Yeah, so the thing about the Fouchette disc is that's one thing that they actually described in the church hearing back in 72, I believe, on the House Assassinations Committee.
	You guys mentioned Colby.
	Colby suffered retaliation and he himself was killed because... You guys mentioned Colby.
	See what I mean?
	There's a pattern again going on.
	because of what you need.
	Alan, go ahead.
	Alan, go ahead. - You know, I fully agree with what's being said, that Colby suffered retaliation because of this very testimony.
	This very testimony.
	revealing cytotoxin weapon.
	And to risk of repeating myself, I would say the clinic...
	For any other explanation.
	And secondly, David also agrees that, uh, David disagrees with Livingston.
	David thinks that the throat wound was not bullet caused.
	It was a, uh, it was a glass shard.
	So, the argument is narrowed.
	Is it glass or is it Soxitoxin?
	And Soxitoxin wins on mathematical grounds.
	Well, there should not be any uncertainty about it.
	The danger of it is that we're helping our enemies in many ways of creating controversy, but there's no controversy.
	It's 100%.
	We got another break, Alan, and hopefully David will join us.
	We'll be right back.
	What?
	It's cooler.
	We'll be right back.
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	Well, I'm here today with Alan Solari, the former top shrink with the...
	who has a theory about the use of a neurotoxin, FleshShat, during the assassination in Dallas in 1963.
	And John Carman, who has some familiarity with the use of FleshShats, including during the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.
	He was not hit by any bullet fired by John Hinckley, but rather when he was being pushed into the Secret Service limousine by an agent, he fired the flechette that barely missed Reagan's heart to convey the message, let George do it.
	Or George H.W.
	Bush was essentially running the government thereafter.
	Alan, I've invited David to join.
	I was showing, of course, the image of Malcolm Killian reporting.
	It was a simple matter of a bullet right to the head.
	And I think it's dumbfounding in retrospect to realize the Warren Commission essentially denies the wedding shots from in front, and therefore denies what Admiral Berkley concluded, denies what Malcolm Kildaff was showing, denies what was being reported on radio and television that day.
	This must have greatly emboldened them in the belief they can tell the American people anything.
	No matter what the evidence, and they'll swallow it because we're gullible saps.
	Your thoughts.
	Alan.
	We're getting interference, clearly.
	So I don't know how much you heard of that or not.
	But can you comment, Alan?
	I don't know if you can hear it.
	I don't think he can either.
	Go ahead, John.
	It was actually, allegedly, a CIA agent.
	Somebody was claiming it might have been Felix Rodriguez behind and up on the building of the Hilton who shot the flechette disc into Reagan as he raised his arm in your TV screen this way to the left side of his chest.
	But these flechette discs are being used for quite a bit because that's the whole purpose of it.
	To make it look like the lone male gunman shooting a regular Gun of some sort and they actually had mercury bullets when they don't want to discuss that but the stuff about the neurotoxins is very very feasible Because they had the shards of glass which shows it could have come through the front windshield And they can develop these things to go through almost anything made of a special material even back then you know the difference between a titanium and
	Fleshette would be 10 times stronger than steel, so that means it's definitely going to go through the windshield and hit the target just below the collarbone area or into the neck, which is where they indicated it.
	And what's interesting is they destroyed the entrance wounds by doing an alleged tracheotomy.
	So there's all these cover-ups going along and along.
	More bullets found in the vehicle.
	The actual JFK vehicle that I protected in this building in D.C.
	at 1310 L Street, which has now been re-switched out to another building, they didn't want us to go inside to actually touch anything.
	I'm surprised they didn't put a tarp over it.
	But it was just a thing like a, you know, show and tell night on training or something.
	So there's all these indicators, you know, and we'll probably not even see it in our lifetime.
	I talked to Jim Garrison before he passed away in 91, 92 era.
	He says, stay healthy, don't smoke, don't drink.
	And within the 75 year period, we're going to find out everything.
	And then all of a sudden, Poppy Bush is about to die.
	So Donald Trump pulls it back for another 90 days, I guess.
	Is there going to release more information?
	We are so left in the dark, we don't know what's really happening.
	They're keeping us in the dark forever because of the people that are still alive and involved with the assassination in 63.
	You know, and it's all there.
	The indicators are there.
	Poisons, flechette darts, flechette discs, special weapons.
	Look over there, not over there.
	I mean, it's all consistent.
	Well, Alan, I think, took himself out so he could rejoin and we'd have a better connection.
	Hopefully that'll happen.
	I'm going to open the lines to callers.
	There we go.
	It's 608-957-8727.
	608-957-8727.
	We may or may not have Alan with us, but we'd be glad to hear from you.
	608-957-8727.
	We may or may not have Alan with us, but we'd be glad to hear from you.
	John, I wanna go back to this Tarif Campbell thing.
	I mean, I think this is a huge scandal.
	You got a former president of the United States, there's evidence indicating he performed a murder, and then he's getting away with it scot-free.
	The only source I know pursuing a judicial watch, Tom Hitton has published several pieces about it.
	Your further thoughts?
	I'm sorry, I think I missed the point on that.
	Tariff Campbell, the chef for Obama.
	Well, the chef, the chef.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I couldn't understand.
	I was going, what?
	But I think it's kind of obvious because here's a guy who's working for them personally.
	He's a personal chef.
	When you work at the White House, that's a very special detail.
	I was asked one time to even be on the Oh, the shopping detail.
	Oh, that sounds exciting.
	What's it about?
	Well, you get to escort the people that buy the food at special meat markets, supermarkets, all that.
	And if they're going to have a state dinner or something, they have to buy a ton of food, have all kinds of stuff delivered.
	But guess what?
	They have to have Secret Service protecting every aspect of anything that comes into the White House grounds.
	And because to prevent, guess what?
	Poisoning.
	We won't talk about food tasters, will we?
	Food tasters.
	Oh, I don't know about this.
	Here, you try it, you know, and see what happens to the guy.
	That's the first way that they would do it is to contaminate the food.
	So there's an aspect of that.
	So that has to be a very highly trusted person.
	They have to get a top secret clearance before back to when before they were born.
	And if there's anything in their background, they certainly wouldn't be able to pull them in unless, of course, you were the Clintons.
	And then you overrode all these people coming into the White House.
	That's another kind of sarcasm, but it's true.
	But yeah, the indicators are there.
	Something happened between them and a little jealousy trip or something was going on.
	And I don't want to say that, you know, when you get three people together and it doesn't mix out right, you know, you get a little problems, you know.
	I think he's back now.
	Rejoined.
	I inferred you'd drop to get a better connection.
	Please give us further thoughts if we are indeed in contact.
	Alan, the floor is yours.
	They don't want Alan to talk.
	I think this is a confirmation of his suspicion that he's on to something.
	Go ahead, Alan, if you can.
	Can you say anything?
	Yeah, he's breaking up like he's getting delayed there.
	The connection's being interfered with.
	Very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	Yeah, I've seen it happen a couple of times on some other shows.
	They will purposely intrude in on the connection.
	There's no way that Langley and Fort Meade can do stuff, you know, so you almost have to... I've got a hell of a lot of Zoom videos, and this is one of the rarest of rare occasions.
	I can't recall anything quite like this ever happening before.
	Oh, look at the subjects.
	Given the subject matter, I think that's the explanation, but it really tends to confirm my policies, even though I think it's mistaken.
	I believe I have excellent reason for that.
	But yet, The firing of the editor of the journal, the harassment of Alan, this kind of interference right here on this show when we're discussing it, and I'm seeking to rebut it, yet they're not letting Alan even present it.
	That's pretty damning, John, don't you think?
	Yeah, it's an obvious block of some sort.
	And again, I look at these patterns, and when you see the same type of patterns, the government interference, you know, we don't live in the United States of America anymore.
	People keep hoping and hoping.
	We live in a dictatorship and stuff like that.
	If they control it to the point where they're killing scientists, putting people in prison, talking about these subjects, And I've talked about serious subjects as well, because I interviewed John W. Hinckley in 76.
	Right.
	I've seen the limo.
	I worked in the White House.
	I've been at the desk, the resolute desk that Kennedy used to be.
	I mean, there's all kinds of weird connections.
	We had people left over from the Kennedy administration, still working.
	And there's a lot of problems.
	They altered the Zapruder film that I saw that was in 74.
	I didn't see the actual corrected original, and that was in 95.
	That's when I was reaching out to other people because I was on injury leave at that time for about eight or nine months.
	So there's a lot of indicators, and yet they don't want us to know the truth.
	Well, why is that?
	Because they're covering up all the complicity.
	Uh, in felony, uh, high treason.
	They're afraid to say high treason.
	The Congress, the Senate, and people in our own government are afraid to acknowledge it because then they would be complicit in high treason as well.
	And you mentioned Gerald Ford.
	I protected Gerald Ford.
	And he, he supposedly was the one who had the, uh, the notes on the entry in the back.
	Raised or lowered or moved because it was like about six inches, five and three quarter inches down from the shoulder area off to the right of the spinal cord.
	There's a good example.
	Now notice that he's in lane number two.
	Why is he in lane number two, not lane number one?
	Because lane number two is closest to the storm drain area and the grassy knoll and the fence closest to the shooters.
	That's what I noticed a while ago.
	Very interesting, John.
	Yeah, say more, say more.
	Look at that.
	See that?
	Closest to the shooters, not off to the far left.
	And frame 313 that you just saw has always been altered.
	That's a prophetic number for me.
	Oh, it's still breaking up.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Alan, Alan, try to speak and see if we can hear you.
	John, continue with your comments, because I think we're... No, that was a good part.
	I sent you the other video yesterday, because we had actual gunshots, which they've also taken the sound out of, because they don't want you to hear it.
	Oh, yeah!
	Yeah, can you play that from your side?
	I don't know if I can.
	I didn't have it up, because I rebooted the computer, but I'll try real quick.
	I think Alex is trying to talk, but it's all garbled, so it may happen.
	Yeah, it would be a maneuver here.
	Apologies that I didn't have that up myself.
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	Yeah, I sent it to you.
	Here it is.
	The JFK video MOV five shots.
	I'll pull that up.
	Can you play it perhaps so we can hear it?
	I'm going to play it over.
	It's on now.
	Yeah, we were not hearing anything.
	Perhaps if I make you host.
	Can you turn it up?
	was taken from the fourth floor of the depository as the president's car approached.
	This is the shot that would have been taken if you're not waiting for crossfire.
	Can you turn it up?
	Can you turn up the volume?
	No, I can't.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm going to send you the link.
	Well, no, you go ahead and play it again.
	Play it again.
	We could hear it, but faintly, that's all.
	I'll turn up my speaker.
	I'll turn up my speaker.
	You play it again.
	The spacing of the bullets sound is very indicative.
	There were at least three to four or five shooters.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm going to try and send you the link again.
	But I did send it to you on email last night.
	I know.
	Give us an overview of your assessment.
	Valens theory.
	Well, I think he's got a good point because remember a lot of times in assassinations, they don't want to tell you about the poison.
	That's like a very first thing, it's a sure thing.
	Even, I'm thinking of the North Korean relative to Kim Jong-un who was touched by a scarf, just to use a real lousy prop here, and all it took was the woman to stroke it across his skin.
	That was it, because he became incapacitated within seconds to a minute, and then he started to go into like a cardiac arrest and all that stuff.
	That's all it takes.
	You get fentanyl or a pure version of a certain toxin that's poisonous, that's it.
	Just a quick touch.
	That's why Secret Service is always supposed to be there to prevent somebody from reaching out with something to touch this president.
	And even the President Trump, when he's out there in these restaurants and he's giving away 30 milkshakes or something, and then he's allowing people to get pictures, they have to be really on top of it.
	They have to really be looking at these people's eyes to see if they're a potential threat, to evaluate them real quick.
	And if they see anything that's out of ordinary, even if a person's coming up with a pen, for Christ's sake, here's a big pen, And the size of the little, remember the rolling pin, the little big rolling pins?
	Yeah, I'm trying to put it up so you can barely see it.
	The tip of that pin is a fine, it's a fine tip roller ball on the inside of it.
	That's what transfers the ink down to the point where you're rotating it over paper or whatever.
	Those things were drilled With a very micro drill so that they had three to four or five holes.
	So that's where they would put ricin or polonium type of radioactive poison.
	Just that much would take enough just to just to hit the skin, break the skin.
	You're gone within 72 hours.
	So, all these things about assassination techniques, they don't want to put it out because then they could be more adept about preventing it.
	No different than I mentioned the poison dart frog oil, which all it takes is for the Amazon natives, they'll take the actual arrowhead Rub it over the top of the skin of the poison dart frog.
	And they have really interesting colors like green and yellow and red and so forth.
	And that's because they eat certain types of bugs which reacts to a poison exuding from their skin and their oil.
	Then when it hits the monkey that they would shoot in the trees, he's paralyzed and then he drops to the ground.
	And then after that, they do whatever they need to do to dissect him for lunch.
	And supposedly it doesn't affect them when it's neurologically affected the body, but they're only eating another part of it, which is the meat.
	So they know what they're doing.
	There's toxic fish.
	They used to use the toxins from certain rockfish, certain the poison dart frog.
	They use them for certain animals and species that we aren't even aware of because they covered up.
	That's all part of their research and development section at Langley and a couple other places.
	And they'll test them on individuals, no different than the CIA tested LSD on black military people back in the 40s, you know.
	Or the person that got overdosed with LSD at Bethesda Naval Hospital, and that guy jumped out the window.
	That's a famous case.
	You're talking about James Forrestal?
	Yes, there you go.
	The Forrestal case.
	I suspect he was thrown out the window.
	Right.
	Yeah, but like you mentioned, Bethesda.
	Yeah, they were switching bodies.
	They took one body to Bethesda.
	They could have flown out to there if they wanted to.
	And then one drove out, the other one was another casket, back and forth.
	But they were sensitive about people touching that limo.
	And I was up there touching the outside of the limo.
	I wanted to get inside, look around, just to see, you know, maybe the guy saved my life because maybe you can't get all the toxins out of the back seat or not.
	Joke.
	Or the mercury!
	The limousine sent back to Ford and totally stripped down to metal and rebuilt, John.
	There wasn't any... No, I get it.
	I get it.
	In fact, it was Texas where they supposedly build all the limos.
	Special contract.
	So they could go in there and replace the whole windshield in a matter of 20 minutes, half an hour.
	Well, listen, I mean...
	One of my investigators colleagues, who's at JD, tracked down the guy who replaced the windshield at Ford, and he confirmed there was a through-and-through bullet with beveling on the inside, and that they were instructed to destroy it, just as they were instructed to rip the vehicle down to bare metal and rebuild it, which, of course, is a destruction of evidence in the most important assassination in the history of the United States!
	Exactly.
	By Lyndon and Edgar, who were complicit in the crime and wanted to make sure there was no evidence.
	Those people in Secret Service, they got rewarded for keeping their mouths shut no different than when Lyndon Johnson had a walkie-talkie in the follow-up vehicle.
	Why would a vice president have a walkie-talkie?
	And then, When the first round supposedly went off, the first explosion of a gunshot, he ducks down real quick and the agents like looking over him to see what's wrong with him.
	I think he was ducking even before the first shot.
	He didn't know what was happening.
	He'd orchestrated the whole event.
	He anticipated it.
	That's an anticipated flinch.
	Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
	That's what that was.
	Well, that guy ended up getting rewarded.
	In fact, there was the James Rawlings Center is the name of the Beltsville Training Center north of College Park, Maryland, when I had to go for six to eight weeks specialized training.
	So now that's what that occurred.
	You know, a lot of people don't realize when I went to Secret Service in 1974, just after Nixon left, agents were being paid.
	Uniform division, non-uniform, $11,600 a year in 1974.
	That was the base pay.
	Can you imagine?
	I went to U.S.
	Customs later and you start off with like $39,000 to $40,000 a year.
	You think at that rate, it may be pretty easy to bribe a Secret Service agent to do something nefarious.
	I mean, yeah, you would think.
	And I've been approached at least once by a Russian female outside the gates coming up to give me her phone number one time.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I'll call you later.
	I'll call you, right?
	So I called Internal Affairs and reported.
	I missed it.
	I missed it.
	What'd you say?
	She wanted to get to know you better.
	Yeah, she did.
	But you have to turn it in.
	You have to call up Internal Affairs on your phone.
	You know, hey, this is Officer Carmen at the West, East, Westgate, whatever.
	And I just got approached and she gave me a number.
	So I'll meet with you guys later and give you the phone number so we can set up a deal, you know.
	Well, I guess I didn't get called in on that assignment, so they probably used somebody else.
	Or, here's the 180 degrees, or maybe it was a setup by Internal Affairs to test me anyway.
	You see?
	And that didn't work, so they knew I could be trusted.
	Worthy of trust and confidence is a very common phrase in Secret Service nowadays.
	But there's still a lot of stuff going on.
	Every time they get a new person on the assignments, they're all being exposed to frequencies, the Havana syndrome, that kind of stuff, toxins, poisons, gases, you name it.
	In fact, they could shoot a special, not even a pellet.
	Remember, remember when you're military, you probably got the shots by the injectable gun with an air gun.
	I don't remember if I did or didn't, but go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah, well, back back in the day they would put a an injectable.
	I'm trying to use a prop here.
	Here.
	Here's a prop.
	Here's a little thing.
	They take this little bottle of liquid which has their vaccine.
	They screw it into the bottom of their air pistol.
	Yeah, and they just line recruits up all day, right?
	Next pop next you can get all five vaccines or all five injections in one Air injected liquid right there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, it's the same difference.
	They could shoot you at a distance and it can still be effective if it was concentrated enough and you may get it right in your face as if you're outside.
	You think, oh, I just got hit by a an insect.
	Or a bird or something.
	You know what I mean?
	That's all it takes.
	Right.
	It's very innocent, but that's how serious it is.
	Right.
	Right.
	We're running out of time here.
	We got like, what, about five minutes?
	No, no, no.
	Maybe 60 seconds.
	Yeah.
	Now, John, it's just been great having Alan on here and you.
	I thought it was a very wonderful interaction, especially because of your Knowledge about these are plush ads.
	And while I disagree with Alan about this particular issue, I sure respect the guy tremendously.
	And he's giving circumstantial reason to think that he just might be right.
	Firing the inventor, seizing all of his property.
	The interference today on the show, John, that was extraordinary.
	There's no need for that.
	Yeah, those are the indicators.
	Yeah.
	They might be onto something.
	So I got to say, of course, I admire the guy beyond words for what he's gone through and his efforts to expose truth.
	You know, JFK is just one of his fascinations.
	And as I mentioned, I have one of his paintings on my wall, Elm Street.
	It's wonderful.
	Wow.
	As a whistleblower, John, he's been severely abused.
	Yeah, well, I can relate to that because I've been through it myself.
	I mean, if they haven't done an IRS audit, accused you of a crime you didn't do, pulled you over by the police, thrown in prison for whatever charge, they will do that.
	I just heard recently that Trump is going to be willing to give Julian Assange a pardon.
	Julian Assange is not an American citizen, and he's not being charged in the United States, but they're trying to get him over here.
	So if they're going to try and get him a pardon, Extradition has been approved.
	John, thank you.
	Alan, you're not here, but you were wonderful.
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