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The Raw Deal (20 March 2024)
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When I was young, so much younger than today.
I never needed anybody's help in any way.
But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
Now I find a gin wine, I open up the doors.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
And I do appreciate to be around.
Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio, this 20th day of March, 2024.
There's going to be a lot about JFK today, because there's a new book by David W. Manning, MD, PhD, and Jerry Corsi, PhD, JFK assassination, the final analysis just out.
It was published on 8th of March and by the 15th it had already sold 4000 copies.
I can't begin to tell you how impressive that is.
Just for contrast, The average academic book you know by a professor might sell around seven hundred and fifty over a decade seven hundred and fifty over a decade my book nobody died at Sandy Hook where I brought together thirteen experts.
Including six PhDs where we sorted out what it happened discovered the school been closed by two thousand eight that there were no students there that have been a FEMA drill.
Presented as mass murder to promote gun control and sold nearly 500 copies in less than a month when it was banned.
Went on sale 22 October 2015.
Banned 19 November 2015.
Too much truth.
They couldn't let it out.
I released that for free as a PDF.
And I've been told it's been downloaded millions of times as a PDF, which is why they had to bring a lawsuit against me, completely fabricated and contrived, to find a way to block the release of that book by so many different sources.
Now, what I'm telling you is 500 copies in less than a month, man, it was destined to become a bestseller.
That's what they did not want.
David Mannix's book, 4,000 in a week.
Absolutely stunning.
So I'm going to reveal a few of the latest news developments.
But most of what I'm going to talk about is this new book, Now It Just So Happens.
I published an overview about the Kennedy assassination on my blog at jameshfetzer.org.
New book nails how JFK was taken out in Dallas.
You can also find, and I'm very pleased, Unz Review, unz.com.
There's the link.
There's the link, unz.com slash article slash New book nails how JFK was taken out in Dallas slash.
It's got nine or ten comments now.
I'm going to go through the whole shebang.
Before we get there, however, let me begin some of the latest news stories.
For years, Yahoo propped up a mosque.
Now it's blown up in our faces.
Premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner at the expense of a boss and Palestinian statehood has resulted in wounds that will take years, Israel, years to heal from.
No, it's never going to heal.
This is permanent.
Slaughtering Palestinians openly, viciously, sadistically, starving them to death.
You don't get over that ever, ever.
Here's the story.
Let's see, this is from Times of Israel, so I'm putting a very positive face on the situation.
For years, the various governments, led by Benjamin Netanyahu, took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees While making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group, the idea was to prevent Hamas or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority's West Bank government from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Thus, amid this bid to impair Hamas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiation via Egypt.
And one that was allowed to receive infusion to cash from abroad.
Hamas was also included in discussions about increasing the number of work permits Israels granted to Gazan laborers, which kept money flowing into Gaza, food for families, and the ability to purchase basic products.
Israeli officials said these permits Well, we know where that's all turned out, but Bibi has been manipulating behind the scene 100%.
100%.
What else do we have going on here?
tool to help preserve calm.
Well, we know where that's all turned out, but Bibi has been manipulating behind the scene 100%.
100%.
What else do we have going on here?
Trump's lawyers say securing bond for massive New York civil business fraud judgment is a practical impossibility.
Is anyone surprised?
The lawyers representing former President Donald Trump said on Monday that their client has been unsuccessful in his attempt to secure bond for Judge Arthur Ergonon's $464 million civil business fraud judgment against him and his company.
Trump's team submitted a filing in the York Appellate Court saying that despite Trump's efforts, assurators wouldn't accept real estate as collateral.
The Trump Organization must come up with around a billion in cash to continue to operate.
The Wall Street Journal reported the lawyers argued in their filing That boasting bond for the judgment full support is a practical impossibility.
Here, defendant's ongoing diligent efforts have proven that a bond at the judgment full amount is a practical impossibility, they wrote.
These diligent efforts have included approaching about 30 surety companies through four separate brokers, a bond requirement of this enormous magnitude.
Effectively requiring cash reserves approaching a billion dollars is unprecedented for a private company.
Illegal filing added.
David Gelman, a criminal defense attorney and former deputy district attorney, told Fox Trump should have more freedom to satisfy the bond because not even the richest man in the world has $464 million lying around.
Courts really don't deny bonds when there are other ways to pay them, and said again, because this is so unprecedented.
And I don't care how rich you are, nobody has that much liquid cash.
So if a court had the option to allow a defendant to use some other collateral to satisfy the bond, they will, or they would, if this were a normal case.
But it's lawfare.
They're using the law as a political weapon against Donald Trump.
We have seen this again and again and again.
Thus, it appears, Trump property to be seized Monday over victimless non-crime.
Here's Newsday reporting the upcoming deadline.
Judge Arthur N. Garand, Who's a very weird guy, by the way.
Ruled in the state favor on many of the main points even before the trial began last year.
In February, after a two-and-a-half-month trial, Engron ordered Trump to pay $355 million plus interest.
The frauds found here leap off the page and shock the conscience.
That's just bullshit!
That's just ridiculous!
This whole thing was a fabricated case.
Trump goes to banks, using property as collateral, estimates the value of Mar-a-Lago, oh, I don't know, 200 mil, 250 mil more.
The judge, the banks, don't just take the applicant's word for it.
They have their own experts.
The value of real estate is Highly objective.
I mean, you know, you got properties adjacent, what their value and all that.
You have lots of experts.
It's true.
Subjectively, one couldn't make up any value, and that's what the judge did.
He said the value, I don't know, was 18 or 30 million, vastly below.
Now, so what?
The judge had that opinion.
He's not an expert, but he's biased.
This whole thing is a fraudulent case against Trump.
The banks, in any case, have their own experts.
They go about doing their own evaluations.
This is all standard practice.
They don't simply take Trump's word for it.
And they went ahead, they made the loans, they were paid back with interest, they're fat and happy, they want to do more business with Trump.
Enter the Democrat Attorney General Letitia James and his corrupt judge, Arthur Engron.
And I say that because what has happened here is a grotesque abuse of the law.
of grotesque abuse of the law.
Indeed, other experts will testify.
The law goes we're 200 to 300 million I mean, look at the property!
It's right on beachfront, it's absolutely gorgeous, it's magnificent, it's one of the most plush, elegant estates in all of Florida, which has a lot of very valuable property.
The article continues, Trump denies any attempt to deceive banks or anyone else about his wealth.
He said the judges assisted in lawsuits that were politically motivated attempts to keep him from reclaiming the White House in the 2024 presidential election.
Absolutely right.
He also argued it's unfair to make himself assets and spent a huge amount buying a bond when the case is still being appealed.
That is a key point.
I did nothing wrong.
Trump said on his social media platform Tuesday, the corrupt political action New York judge and AG are asking me to put up massive amounts of money before I'm allowed to appeal the ridiculous decision never done before, no jury, no victim, full disclaimer, cause happy banks, election interference, witch hunt.
Absolutely right.
This move by the state is essentially telling the world that investment money It's no longer safe in New York.
Numerous experts in investment have drawn that conclusion to advise against investing in New York.
What's going to be the cumulative effect of this?
We've all got the rich in New York moving out of New York because crime is increasing, shops are closing.
It's becoming less and less safe.
Witness the violence on the subway.
The government even has to send the National Guard in to protect civilians.
So when you have exclusive shops closing, when you have the wealthiest residents in New York City moving, that's dramatically reducing the tax base, the revenue coming into the city to deal with the problems it has, such a crime in the street.
And the massive numbers of migrants.
In other words, we're into a death spiral.
And with an absurd judgment like this, investors aren't going to go to New York.
New York's going to lose its center as a financial capital of the world.
Absolutely stunning stuff.
Letitia James has been out for a scalp.
She wants to take Trump Tower, for example, seize it and fill it with migrants.
I'll bet you anything that's what's going to happen.
What an insult.
And can you imagine the damage those migrants are going to do to Trump Tower?
I mean, our country, frankly, has spun out of control and it's all Because of one party desperate to stay in power.
Meanwhile, on the positive side, apart from a billionaire backer, Nelson Peltz, P-E-L-T-Z, a billionaire investor, says he will once again back the 40th president in his re-election bid.
Jerry?
felt back Trump in 2020, later claimed he regretted his decision to support the former president.
The billionaire cited Biden's deteriorating mental condition as a primary reason he's throwing his support behind former President Trump.
Uno momento.
Jerry?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
That's right.
Perfect, Jerry.
You got it.
That was Jerry Corsi, the co-author with David of his new book, whom I plan to interview today.
Story at the bottom of the hour, but We got a time zone confusion juries actually in the eastern and he misread the times i was giving for pacific i mean i had designated which time zone but it got lost in the translation.
So i'll be joining next wednesday instead of today he was just confirming.
Arrangements ever a separate interview with david manning in any case the billionaire.
Cited Biden's deteriorating mental condition as a primary reason he's throwing his support behind former President Trump for the 2024 race.
He's just saying what we're all thinking.
Yet he has received a considerable amount of hate from the left for his position.
Financial Times interviewed Belson and provided this synopsis.
Billionaire investor Nelson Pelt plans to vote for Donald Trump, saying his assessment that President Joe Biden's mental condition is really scary outweighed his concern over the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S.
Capitol.
Well, that was bullshit!
That was just bullshit!
January 6th was all fabricated.
Congress is even contemplating bringing criminal charges against Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff and others.
They destroyed the evidence when they were ordered to preserve it.
Why would anyone have any respect for the Financial Times writing a bullshit piece like that?
The Epoch Times presented this statement from Pell's.
We can't go on letting everyone into this country.
We have an immigration problem.
It's not a Republican or Democrat problem, said Mr. Bells.
He expressed opposition to stopping immigration altogether.
But I want some boundaries put on it so we at least know who we're bringing in.
Good, good, good.
I mean, that's a very modest position, in my opinion.
You want to hear something that simply floors me?
Catania Brown-Jackson.
This is the latest member of the Supreme Court.
If you have any doubts about whether or not she's a dim bulb, this is going to floor you.
U.S.
Supreme Court Justice Catania Brown-Jackson said Monday she was concerned that the First Amendment was hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods.
Doesn't she understand that's what these amendments are for?
To constrain the government?
God!
Here's a story about it.
So my biggest concern is that your view has the first amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most important time periods.
I mean, what would you have the government do?
I've heard you say a couple times that the government can post its own speech, but in my hypothetical, you know, kids, this is not safe, don't do it, is not going to get it done.
And so I guess some might say that the government actually has a duty to take steps to protect the citizens of this country and you seem to be suggesting that that duty cannot manifest itself in the government encouraging or even pressuring platforms to take down harmful information.
So can you help me because I'm really I'm really worried about that because you've got the First Amendment operating in an environment of Threatening circumstances from the government's perspective, and you're saying that the government can't interact with the source of those problems.
Your Honor, I understand that and I guess what I tell you is that our position is not that the government can't interact with the platforms there.
They can and they should in certain circumstances like that that present such dangerous issues for society and especially young people.
But the way they do that has to be in compliance with the First Amendment.
And I think that means they can give them all the true information that the platform needs and ask to amplify that.
Right, but you're just saying that.
I guess I thought when you say the way they do that is consistent with the First Amendment, is that they have to show that they have a compelling interest to do what they're doing.
In other words, you want us to take the line to be between compulsion and encouragement.
And what we're looking at is the government can't compel, maybe they can encourage.
I'm wondering whether that's not really the line.
The line is, Does the government, pursuant to the First Amendment, have a compelling interest in doing things that result in restricting the speech in this way?
That test, I think, takes into account all of these different circumstances.
That we don't really care as much about how much the government is compelling, or maybe we do, but in the context of tailoring, and not as sort of a freestanding inquiry that's overlaid on all of this.
Does that make sense?
It does, Your Honor, and I apologize for missing your guidance earlier.
So the way I think about that is I've been discussing the standard, and I thought we've all been discussing the standard on the front end of the analysis, which is, is there a First Amendment violation?
Is there an abridgment of speech?
I guess I would conceptually think of strict scrutiny, narrow tailing, compelling interest as coming in at the back end to say, Yes, maybe in the ordinary case, the government shouldn't have been permitted to undertake the kind of suppression of free speech that it did.
But in this unique circumstance, it actually had a compelling interest and it used narrowly tailored means to accomplish that interest.
I mean, I think that's the fail safe.
If you're concerned with the breadth of our arguments, that's one fail safe, which is no matter how broad the standard the court adopts, there's always going to be strict scrutiny at the end of the line to save the government in times where it desperately needs to do the things that you're outlining.
Thank you.
I don't think the government should have the right to censor anybody.
How the hell are we going to find out what's the truth and what's not the truth?
Brown is just assuming.
That the government knows the truth.
Well, the government may know the truth but don't care about the truth.
The government may be promoting falsehoods and lies.
The government promoted an official account of the assassination of JFK.
That's ridiculous!
The government has an absolutely indefensible account of 9-11.
It's ridiculous!
The government claims that Sandy Hook was legit.
Ridiculous!
The government seemed to be all for mass immigration, which is just a massive threat to the United States, and they would constrain Americans from speaking out in criticism of the government?
I'm just floored.
I'm just floored.
Not only does this woman appear to be out of her depth on the Supreme Court, it's just awful.
We got a guy I used to think was super smart, Keith Olbermann, who's suggesting there's hope for Trump's assassination on social media.
How bad is that?
Former MSNBC bomb thrower Keith Olbermann is taking heat for posting to social media his apparent hope that Donald Trump would be assassinated.
The shrill extreme left has jumped to his axe accounts Saturday, replied to a Joe Biden campaign post featuring a video of a segment of a speech Trump recently made in Dayton, Ohio.
The Biden-Harris headquarter post of the video was captioned, Trump says he has been treated worse than Abraham Lincoln, who was assassinated.
To that, Olbermann responded, there's always hope.
There's always the hope.
And here's the link.
To that tweet.
Here we have it.
Let me see what I've got.
So you would think that would cause a problem, right?
So you could understand it.
But nobody comes close to Trump.
And now even you've heard of Andrew Jackson, who was actually a great general and a very good president.
They say that he was persecuted as president more than anybody else.
Second was Abraham Lincoln.
This is just what they said.
This is in the history books.
They were brutal.
Andrew Jackson's wife actually died over it, they say.
Died of a broken heart, but she died over it.
He was never quite the same.
But they say Andrew Jackson, they say Abraham Lincoln was second, but he had a, you know, in all fairness, he did have a civil war, so you would think that would cause a problem, right?
So you could understand it.
But nobody comes close to Trump.
And now even You've heard of Andrew Jackson.
He was actually a great general and a very good president.
They say that he was persecuted as president more than anybody else.
Second was Abraham Lincoln.
This is just what they said.
This is in the history books.
They were brutal.
Andrew Jackson's wife actually died over it, they say.
Died of a broken heart, but she died over it.
He was never quite the same.
But they say Andrew Jackson.
They say Abraham Lincoln was second.
But he had a, you know, in all fairness, he did have a civil war.
So you would think that would cause a problem.
Right.
So you could understand it.
But nobody comes close to Trump.
And now even you've heard.
Yep.
Yep.
The left wing screen was immediately blasted by replies to his post calling for the assassination of someone with whom he has a political disagreement.
Doug Ross.
Seek help.
Cut their eagle a minute.
Crime War Trump 2024.
Spitfire.
At the very least, this is a TOS, Terms of Service violation.
Perhaps Secret Service should pay Keith a visit.
We all know Keith is mentally unstable.
We'll be right back.
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And now we return you to your host.
Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host, where I said I wanted to talk about the new book, Jerry Corsi called me about it.
New book nails how JFK was taken out in Dallas.
Starting to build up some traction.
13 comments so far with new replies.
This is on UNZ.com.
I expect there are going to be hundreds of comments before this is over.
What I want to do is go through each paragraph and talk about it, and I'll be glad to take your calls.
I'll probably open the lines early.
Here we go.
I mean, the visuals, though.
I mean, I loaded this with a lot of visuals.
You can also find it on my blog at jameshfetzer.org.
Okay, it's all there.
A new book by David W. Manning, MD, PhD, and Jerome Corsi, PhD.
The assassination of JFK, the final analysis 2024, was published on 8th March 2024 and it sold 4,000 copies by 15 March, the Ides of March, which reflects the public's thirst for truth about the death of our 30th president.
David and I began collaborating in 1992 in the wake of Oliver Stone's magisterial film JFK.
Which presents the most accurate, complete, and detailed account of what actually happened in Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963, ever offered to the American people through the mass media.
But now we know more.
I mean, David's the leading expert on the medical evidence.
What he has done is refined and completed his analysis of the medical evidence.
Which has to be basic to understand the assassination.
In other words, in the past.
The body of a decedent is regarded as the best evidence, but in this case.
You have a body that was subjected to a lot of alteration after it left Parkland.
Once it got to.
Bethesda.
All kinds of bad stuff happened.
A small clean puncture wound to the throat, for example, was exaggerated, made open to look like it were an exit wound instead of an entry.
The surgeon took a cranial saw to the skull of JFK and greatly enlarged the fist-sized blood at the back of the head to extend the whole top of his head.
It's described in mathematical detail in the Bethesda autopsy report.
David Lifton, By the way, it was a first to call out about the body in this case, not being the best evidence in his book, Best Evidence 1980.
Actually had his.
Well, you know, I had his girlfriend write to Edgar about the frames of the Zabruder film being published in the wrong sequence, which he remarkably enough replied and affirmed.
But David read a description of the injuries as described in the Bethesda autopsy report to an expert physician and asked him what it sounded like without identifying the body.
And he said it sounded like he'd been hit in the head with an axe.
Well, they were trying to change the obvious evidence of a shot fired from in front, which entered the right temple and blew his brains out the back of his head.
This fist-sized gaping hole to make the head look more like something that could have happened if Jack had been leaning forward and been shot in the head from behind, right?
Taking off the top of his head.
That was the idea.
You can actually see it in the diagrams.
They had a Navy artist who wasn't allowed to actually see the body.
They told him what to draw.
He drew what they told him to draw, but it was a fantasy scenario.
So the reason this has been so complicated is that the body was itself physically altered, the x-rays and the autopsy photographs were themselves changed.
I mean, the case had been a medical mess.
No one has done more to clear it up than David W. Manti.
He's both an M.D.
from Michigan and a Ph.D.
from Wisconsin in physics, by the way, and ward-certified in radiation oncology, which is a treatment of cancer using x-ray therapy.
He's actually been in the forefront of developing a variation of proton therapy.
So David, when did the – well, you'll hear as I explain.
Went to the archives for the first time in late 1992, and began making fabulous discoveries one after another.
Okay, that's the first paragraph.
Having published three collections of expert studies on JFK with David Banting, Assassination Science, 1998, Murder in Dealey Plaza, 2000, for which he suggested the title, and The Great Bruder Film Hoax,
2003, I would like to explain the dozen-shot, five-hit account of what happened that day in that place, while recommending everyone should follow the lead and obtain this book, which presents the most authoritative analysis of what actually happened based upon the research of the leading expert on the medical evidence regarding JFK and the world today.
And I've given you reasons why that's the thing to do.
In these books, you see, I carried over the research style I had employed repeatedly in philosophy by bringing together groups of experts and added volumes.
This collaborative effort regarding conspiracy research had not been adopted in the past.
So I was setting an example.
If you want to read about it, download my Article Reasoning About Assassinations, which I presented at an international conference at Cambridge, which was published in an international peer-reviewed journal, where I explain the whole idea behind collaborative research, have experts in essence evaluating one another's work to reduce the probability of mistakes.
And I think that's why these books have been so successful.
I mean, I think in assassination science, I had 17 experts.
Murder in Dealey Plaza, a dozen.
The great number of film hoaxes, six.
As we get into more specialized areas, there are fewer experts.
But the six, my goodness, David Lifton, Jack White, John P. Costello, David Banting, David Healy.
Myself.
I mean, this is all sensational stuff.
And those three books just blew apart the cover up.
They just blew apart the cover up.
But once you get rid of all the phony evidence, all the pieces fall into place.
For example, David discovered the autopsy x-rays had been altered to conceal that viscid blood to the back of the head.
I'll say more about this.
And that all of the x-rays are non-originals.
Not a single x-ray in the National Archive of JFK is an original.
Well, ask yourself.
Could the Mafia, for example, have extended its reach into Bethesda Naval Hospital to alter x-rays under the control of officers, medical officers of the United States Navy or the Secret Service?
No!
No!
Well, then the Mafia can't have been responsible for the cover-up of some power far higher.
We discovered the Zapruder film has been extensively edited and revised.
They took original material, they revised it.
Good anti-Castro Cubans, for example, have obtained the Zapruder film.
No, it was actually done in a secret lab.
David Lifton nailed this originally, a secret lab in Rochester adjacent to Kodak headquarters known as Hawkeye Works.
CIA did it, altering the film.
How about this?
I don't talk about this variation, but they They substituted someone else's brain for the brain of JFK, so in the assassination signs, I have the report of a world authority on the human brain.
How can you do better than this?
A world authority on the human brain is also an expert of wound ballistics, having supervised an emergency medical hospital during the Battle of Okinawa, where injured Okinawans and Japanese prisoners of war bombed Livingston.
Concluded!
That the brain seen in diagrams and photographs without a completely intact cerebellum, for example, and very minimal damage at the top of the head cannot possibly be that of JFK, because we have physician after physician at Markle reporting cerebellar tissue extruding through the blood to the back of the head.
Not only that, but Bob goes on to explain there's a very tough membrane called the tentorium that separates the cerebellum from the cerebral tissue, ordinary gray tissue, and that unless that very tough membrane had been severed, it would have been impossible for cerebellum to be extruding from the wound, and yet we have one after another, after another, after another, after another.
Reporting that extruding cerebellum.
Well, great stuff!
Continuing.
So, could the KGB have done that?
Could the KGB have substituted someone else's brain for that of JFK?
Of course not!
So when you get this cover up, you start excluding candidates.
They couldn't have had a participation in the actual assassination.
They cannot have had a role in the cover-up.
And when you look at who's going to cover up, you know, the death of the 35th President of the United States, you realize that has to go pretty high up on the food chain.
OK, continuing.
Two shots from the front.
Everyone knows the official narrative of three shots fired with the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository by the lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald.
What most do not know is that the FBI and Secret Service had concluded that evening that JFK had been hit three times, once in the back, five and a half inches below the collar just to the right of the spinal column, a shallow shot, That only went as far as the second knuckle in your little finger.
That ex-governor John Connally had been hit by a shot in the back, and JFK by a second shot that hit the back of his head, killing him.
Okay?
That's what they concluded the evening of the assassination.
But get this!
During the afternoon and evening of the day of the assassination, however, two shots were widely reported over radio and television alike.
A shot to the throat.
Described as a small, clean wound of entry three times by Malcolm Barry M.D.
during the Parkland press conference held following the announcement of his death by Malcolm Kilduff, acting press secretary.
Kilduff Had pointed to his right temple, and explained it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head, a finding widely reported and attributed to Admiral George Berkeley, the President's personal physician.
You're kidding me!
What do you mean, the day of the assassination, they were reporting two shots?
A shot to the throat and a shot to the right temple?
You even have Malcolm Kilda pointing to his right temple, saying it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head?
But those do not appear in the conclusion of three shots fired from above and behind.
Give me a break.
When you combine the shot to the throat and the shot to the right pinball with a hit in JFK's back into the back of his head, you arrive at a four-hit scenario.
Oh.
Which is a very close approximation of a final analysis.
Panic provides in his latest book.
The Warren Commission bamboozled the public by falsely asserting there had been only three shots.
All of which were fired from above and behind.
The shots widely reported on radio and TV to the throat and right temple had to be suppressed.
Since their existence contradicted the official three-shot lone gunman narrative.
Do you think the government was unaware that the major networks were all reporting these two shots?
The entry shot to the throat and the shot to the right temple on radio and television that day?
Cover-up commences.
Obviously, shots from more than one direction would imply More than one gunman, and therefore that JFK had been killed by a conspiracy.
But the facts were elementary.
If you put together the two hits agreed upon by the Secret Service and the FBI, which were supposed to have been fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, but were actually fired from the top of the county records building, in the case of the shot to the back,
And from the second floor of the Dow Tax Building, in the case of the shot to the EOP, that's the external occipital protuberance at the back of the head, where you'd rest your head if you were reclining in a bathtub, with a shot to the throat, fired from inside the triple underpass into the right pimple, from an above-sewer opening at the intersection of the triple underpass and the picket fence.
There were inescapably four.
The word ground is missing.
Above ground, sewer opening.
At the intersection of the triple underpass and the big event, there were inescapably four.
And look how different!
That implies already four assassins!
Four shooters!
Four distinct wounds, fired from different directions, different locations.
Two from the front, two from the back.
None!
From the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
But!
Instead, the mainstream media, led by the New York Times, went into cover-up mode and promoted the lone gunman theory, claiming three and only three shots had been fired from the sixth floor of the Book Depository, even though the reports of those two shots to the throat and to the right temple Have been extensive, detailed, and compelling.
The vast majority of Americans had listened to or watched these reports.
Yet now, they were being told there had been only three shots, all of which had come from above and behind.
Can there be any doubt that many felt that something was wrong?
Whether or not they could put their finger on exactly why?
Let me tell you, you watch NBC, see it now today, I'll give you a link, it's right there in the article.
Watch it!
You'll be blown away!
And you'll say, late in the evening, when these reports of the FBI and the Secret Service having concluded there were three and only three shots from above and behind begin to trickle in, Frank McGee, who is nobody's fool, says, on air, This is incongruous!
How can the man have been shot from in front, from behind?
I mean, here they were on NBC reporting two shots from in front, a shot to the throat, a shot to the right temple, and yet behind the Secret Service they're saying all the shots came from behind.
How can the man have been shot from the front, from behind?
We're not supposed to notice?
Most were willing to hold their concerns in suspense and give the government all that time it needed to conduct a complete investigation of what many regarded as a crime of the century.
Little did they know that the government was busy concealing basic facts about how JFK had been taken out, especially those shots from in front.
And that their designated Patsy could not have done it.
Indeed.
The CIA would soon adopt a massive cycle of characterizing citizens who could add 2 plus 2 and conclude JFK had been hit at least four times as conspiracy theorist, which would become standard operating procedure moving forward.
Yeah, absolutely.
If you could add 2 plus 2, you're a conspiracy theorist.
This is so insulting!
Meanwhile, Oswald was in the doorway.
Lee was actually standing on the upper steps of the depository, watching the JFK motorcade passing by.
The Warren Report of 1964 claimed the man in the doorway, called Doorman, was instead his co-worker, Billy Loblady.
But the FBI had interviewed Billy on 29 February 1964, wearing the very same clothing he wore on 22 November 1963, which was a red and white vertically striped short-sleeved shirt, completely different than the closely textured reddish-brown long-sleeved shirt that was worn by Oswald that day.
Or Larry Revere has rendered a reconstruction of what the doorway looked like at the time.
I mean, this is such good stuff.
I, when we were sorting out Oswald in the doorway, I may have published eight articles about it.
I mean, it was really, we spent a huge amount of time on this.
Huge.
It was so obvious that Billy was not a figure called Doorman that they obfuscated his face by blacking it out, known as Black Hole Man to students of these images, and whitened out his shirt.
No other obvious indication of alteration.
Or Black Time Man is both in front of and behind Doorman at the same time, which is an optical impossibility, and by itself proves a photograph was altered.
Some of the best research on this issue has been done by Richard Hook, Ralph Sinque, and Larry Bravura.
You can find Larry's detailed research in his brilliant book, The JFK Horseman, 2018.
Richard Hook, now to part of this earth, sad to say, did comparisons of Lee Oswald when he was arrested with a man in the doorway.
He began by pointing out five to seven similarities.
By the time he was done, I think he had a hundred.
Well, there were innumerable similarities because it was one and the same person.
Ralston K was quite good at contributing to Ralph as a chiropractor.
And he pointed out to me how we can know that was Lee in the doorway on the basis of his height, his weight, his build, his shirt, and his t-shirt.
He's absolutely right.
The man in the doorway had the same height, weight, build, shirt, and t-shirt as Lee Oswald when Lee Oswald was arrested.
In fact, the Dallas Cops were so aware of the similarity, they had Lee take off his outer shirt, this long sleeve, richly textured shirt, brownish red in color, so the similarity wouldn't be so apparent to the public.
Look at Larry Rivera's reconstruction of the doorway.
You got Billy holding his hands up.
To protect his eyes from the sun, wear his short-sleeved red and white burgundy striped shirt and leave beside him, slightly higher up, wearing the long-sleeved richly textured shirt that bears no resemblance to the shirt that Billy Lovelady was wearing.
I mean, the deceit and deception of the government is simply overwhelming and grotesque.
Overwhelming and grotesque.
They actually even hired Robert Groton, many of you think of as an icon of JFK Research, as a special consultant to investigate the rumors that Lee had been in the doorway.
And Robert Groton took Billy Lovelady and had him put on a—I mean, this is so complicated—a red and black checkered shirt.
Because he wanted to claim it was the same as a man in the foreground, who had such a weird confidence, I'd describe it as a guerrilla man.
But guerrilla man had a pocket in the shirt that the Billy Love Lady shirt did not have.
Judith Very Baker did a brilliant refutation of Robert Grodin's report back to the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
When it reinvestigated in 77, 78, and its final report in 79, it discounted those reports of Oswald in the doorway as false rumors based on Grodin's research, and he fabricated his data.
Judith Berry Baker, who had a romance with Lee in New Orleans the summer before the assassination, did a brilliant job.
I published that, too.
Good stuff.
But then Larry carried it further by superimposing the face of Lee Oswald and a Billy Love Lady on the facial features of Doorman.
And it turns out if you set the pupils equidistant and you're taking a photograph with the same perspective, that was the same person all the features fall into place with Lee.
The ears are right, the jaw is right, the nose is right, it's Lee, there's no doubt about it.
Billy, no!
The ears are wrong, the jaw is wrong, the nose is wrong, not Billy!
Some serious objective research has definitively established that Lee Oswald was in the doorway.
I gotta tell you, it's very interesting what's gonna come out here, because I can see now Ops are starting to add comments.
I'm gonna be in a position to refute them.
Unless, of course, they got something right.
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Well, get this, David exposed JFK alteration. - Yeah.
As board certified in radiation oncology, David was ideally prepared to examine the JFK autopsy x-rays in the National Archive, where just before his entry, he told me that he thought he would find evidence of a second shot to the head, but also that the x-rays had been altered.
He found both.
Using a technique from physics known as optical densitometry, he discovered that a blowout at the back of the head, back of the cranium, had been covered with material too dense to be authentic.
I discovered that in break 374 of the Abraham Zapruder film, you can see the exposed brains.
The patch was used to conceal I mean, it's really fascinating.
My reasoning was they spent so much time, you know, blacking out all in the back of the head in early frames after 3.13, 14, 15, 16, 17, for example, that they might have overlooked that it would be visible in later frames in 3.74, I found.
Now you can see it!
You can see the blowout, bluish gray matter.
Remember how often brains are referred to as gray matter?
And then there's a pinkish, that's a skull flap still attached to the head, this pinkish thing, which was blown out by the third shot of the head, which was a frangible exploding bullet.
This stuff is so good, I'm giving a distillation of 30 years of research here, okay, with the best people, because that's what I do.
I bring together the best experts on any of these subjects in order to sort out what really happened.
Notice the resemblance of area P with exposed brain matter, often called gray matter.
The pink extension was a still-attached skull flap, three-inch crescent-shaped.
This substantiated the bullet trajectory through the head that entered the bright temple.
At this point, therefore, we have confirmation of a four-hit scenario.
But questions remain as to whether or not a shot that had been fired from the curbside sewer opening, as many students had long since concluded, in advance of Oliver Stone's JFK revisited, Which should be released on the 22nd of November 2021.
I summarized our state of knowledge of the assassination at the time.
The real deal, JFK special, 18 November 2021, dedicated to Oliver Stone.
And there I spell out, you know, everything we knew up to that point, which included all but this refinement.
Continuing, I knew that David believed there had been another shot to the head, the first to the back of the head, the second to the right temple, but mistakenly inferred it had been from the grass opposite the knoll, where we have two different photos of the same gunman standing behind the lone tree there holding his rifle.
It was only with publication of David's new book that I understood his position, and lingering pieces of the puzzle fell into place for me.
The long-staying dispute about the origin of the head shot from the above-ground sewer opening at the intersection of the TUB and the bigot fence, or the curb sewer opening, would be resolved.
So a lot of people had said, yeah, yeah, the shot had come from the curb side, Others said, no, no, it was from the intersection of the Triple 100 Pass and the Pickett Fence, where there's an above-ground sewer opening.
And we'd been there.
We'd investigated.
Listen to this.
The curbside sewer shot.
Larry Revere had taken photos of the above-ground sewer opening at the intersection of the TOP and the Pickett Fence.
Which aligned perfectly with the entry wound in the right temple and a blowout at the back of the head.
I'd identify this location as the one from which that shot was taken in my JFK special of 18 November 2021, at least in part.
I had discounted the curbside sewer opening because years earlier, David and I had taken a close look where David even climbed inside the sewer itself.
And concluded that the trajectory was not right for the shot that entered the right temple.
I mean, this is really fascinating.
We climbed, David actually climbed down into the sewer to examine the perspective and recognize it wasn't right for the shot that entered the right temple.
Using a sophisticated 3D modeling technique on Dealey Plaza.
It ascertained the view of the limo as it approached the sewer opening, which impressed me greatly as to the prospect of a headshot having been fired from that location.
And indeed, it turns out that David had resolved the differences Between those located a shot in the head from the above ground sewer location and from the curbside sewer opening because both were right.
JFK had been hit a third time in the head from the curbside sewer opening virtually simultaneously with a shot to the right temple from the above ground sewer opening.
Yes.
Yes.
This was so subtle.
This was so complex.
It took David all these many years to sort it out.
So, JFK had actually been hit five times.
First, in the back by a shallow shot, it only penetrated about as far as the second knuckle of your little finger.
Second, in the throat by a shot about to the red shield en route to its target.
Third, in the back of the head, after the limo was brought to an abrupt halt.
Fourth, In the right temple, by a shot that blew his brains out the back of his head in filth.
In the right side of the head, by the virtually simultaneous shot from the curbside sewer opening, where their combined force blew out a triangular piece of skull done as a harbor fragment and debris galore.
Indeed, Bobby Hargis, who is riding to the right front, was hit by this debris so hard he initially thought he himself had been shot.
But...
Thank you.
When the limo was brought to a halt, Hargis parked his bike, ran in between the Secret Service Cadillac and the presidential limo up to the grassy knoll from which he believed shots had been fired.
Douglas Jackson, riding on the opposite side, motored up the grassy knoll until his bike fell over and then proceeded on foot.
Five agents Exit at the secret service limousine and surrounded the presidential one took a piece of skull from a little boy and threw it in the back seat.
I believe by the way that was the harper fragment.
A further development among our newest discoveries.
Is that one of the secret service agents actually climbed into the presidential limousine at that point in time all that had to be removed.
Hey check it out.
They removed it.
I initially believed that the limo stop would only last six or eight seconds.
But after inventorying all of the activities that took place, it cannot have been less than 20 seconds.
And since a film is supposed to be at 18.3 frames per second, that's like 400 frames.
I actually believe it was Ryan at 24.
That wasn't an 18.3.
That's because they took out so many frames that they reduced the frame rate by removing so many.
And the turn from Houston on down, which they also eliminated, took out like another 100.
So actually, since the exit version is 487 frames, The original was around 1,000.
In other words, there are more frames removed from the originals of Bruderfilm than are found in the extant version.
Thus, I turn to the limo stop.
The occurrence of the limo stop was such a stunning proof of Secret Service complicity that it had to be removed.
Thus, while the original 8mm already split film developed in Dallas, ...was taken to the National Photographic Interpretation Center in Washington, D.C.
on Saturday.
The substitute, a 16mm unsplit film developed at the secret CIA photo lab, Hawkeye Works, adjacent to Kodak headquarters in Rochester, New York, was brought there on Sunday, and the substitution of films was affected.
David Lifton, Best Evidence 1980, had already sorted this out.
But would be Douglas Horn, Inside the ARRB, Volume 4 of 5, 2009, whose work on this exchange is definitive.
And John B. Costello, Ph.D., who proved the exit film to be a sophisticated fabrication.
I give you links to their work.
I mean, it's such terrific stuff.
David and I had both been struck when Newsweek on 22 November 1993 published a diagram locating the limo about 30 feet further west than the X mark on Elm Street, officially designated as the place where he was taken out.
But that difference corresponds to the location of the curbside sewer and was probably improperly located for that reason indeed.
Yellow paint had been applied the night before and was still wet, which it turns out was used to define the precise location in which a driver, William Greer, should bring the limo to a halt in case the target was still alive.
And that's what happened.
He'd been hit in the back.
He'd been hit in the throat.
But to all appearances, he was still alive.
Rare hit some breaks, bring them to a abrupt halt, they're jostled forward, and I, by the way, have input from a half a dozen people who have seen what they refer to as the other film.
Without claiming it to be the unedited original, it appears to be the unedited original.
Six of them, some of whom have seen it on multiple occasions, as many as three times.
And they all confirmed the abrupt limo stop and that all the passengers were jostled forward to make sure Jack would be killed.
And then these three shots to the head all occurred after the limousine had been brought to a halt.
These photos capture what would have been the view of the shooter inside the curbside sewer when the limo was brought to a halt.
And this accounts for the location of the eighth assassin who fired that day at JFK.
In an elaborate conspiracy to remove the 35th President of the United States and replace him with Lyndon Johnson, whom I and others, including Phil Nelson and Roger Stone, have identified as the mastermind behind the assassination of JFK.
David has thus finally completed the task of accounting for the medical evidence in the death of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, for which he richly deserves our gratitude.
And of course, my signature.
Jim Fetzer, PhD, is a former Marine Corps officer and retired professor of philosophy, who has become deeply engaged in exposing crimes committed by the American government against its own citizens.
I want to talk about some of the comments.
The first, by Thomas Siena.
Fantastic work.
You can see the fear in Oswald's eyes as he realized he'd been set up for the murder of JFK.
And you can see the duper's delight in LBJ's eyes and grin as he'd been sworn in on the plane.
What a conspiracy.
LBJ made a lot of changes.
The people backing LBJ would have wanted these changes.
Who were these people?
Well, I go into that, and I'm going to be going into it more on this thread, because it's an opportunity to do precisely that.
For an initial comment, I was very pleased.
I thought that was excellent.
Eborio Gusso.
This is the second comment.
The fact is that, like other investigators, it is of no use.
The truth will always be the most convenient for certain interests, and millions of people are educated to believe in these truths like a religion, and that they can never get out of it.
This example can help you think about how many truths there are that really are not, and also think about how easy it is to mass-produce average idiots on the streets.
Well, I suppose there's something to be said.
I mean, look at the government massively playing the American people, you know, badgering everyone who can actually add two plus two and get four.
I mean, how insulting is that?
Unreal.
So, you know, Most Americans are in a position to conduct independent research.
The Warren Commission sought to seal up all the records, all the testimonies for 75 years.
That was because the average lifespan of an American is 75 years.
So by doing that, they would ensure that anyone who was alive at the time of the assassination would be dead.
To comment on the except which the American people had been playing.
Here's the third comment.
Rocky wrote.
LBJ was a devious bastard his whole life, and if he would conspire with Israel and probably the CIA in the attack on the USS Liberty, knowing how many American sailors would be killed, killing one man was nothing.
I agree with that.
Well, we have some 34 sailors on the Liberty were killed by Israeli jets strafing and torpedoing the ship, which miraculously did not sink.
134 others were wounded.
This was supposed to be an event that would be blamed on Egypt.
This was during the Six Day War.
To justify America entering, I think Lyndon planned to bomb Cairo.
But Moshe Dayan was such a brilliant general, he didn't need any help.
He cleaned it all up.
He took care of business.
Lyndon even directed the callback of planes that were being sent from the American fleet to come to the protection of the liberty and called them back.
He wanted that ship at the bottom of the sea.
Miraculous, it didn't happen.
So Rocky Road gets a gold star from me.
Here's cabby stander number four.
The crucial question is not so much who and how, but why?
Now, it's interesting.
That they're not watching here.
I gave you my JFK special of 18 November 2021.
I'd go into all of that.
Who, how, why?
All of that.
So it would be good if some of these folks were to actually watch.
Thus we have counterattacks.
Who were these people?
Thus I posted.
This is then the sixth post.
The politics are as fascinating as the science, especially in November 2021.
The best way to sort it out is to separate the sponsors from the facilitators and the mechanics.
Sponsors, CIA, Joint Chiefs, Anticastro-Cuban, Mafia, Fed, Texas Oil Menus Real, facilitators, Linton, Of the assassination, J. Edgar Hoover, of the cover-up.
Mechanics, the shooters, supervisors, and coordinators, including George Herbert, Walker Bush, and Edward Lansdale, whom many of us believe positioned the shooters and determined the sequence of shots.
He was an Air Force general responsible for assassinations around the world.
He resigned his commission before So if he were actually exposed, he would not be then serving as an officer in the U.S.
Air Force.
There were eight sponsors, each of which put up their own shooter, the US.
The back shot was fired from the top of the county records, really, by a Dallas deputy sheriff.
He was acting as the Texas oil man.
The shot in the throat by an Air Force expert.
At behest of the Joint Chiefs.
The shot to the back of the head by an anti-Castro Cuban, obviously for the anti-Castro Cuban.
The shot to the temple by a mafia hitman, who may have been the best shot in the world at the time.
I talk about these individuals and identify them by name there.
And the shot to the right side of the head by the Israeli assassin.
I spell it out in greater detail in that video, and many others I've published over the years.
Check it out.
Thanks.
Then we have anonymous.
Was Kennedy really killed by some 6.5 millimeter bullets fired by Italian-made Garcano rifles?
If so, that would be a real fly in the ointment.
Because that was a $13 surplus rifle that no serious shooter or high-level assassin would pick for such a risky, once-in-a-lifetime job.
A hillbilly hunting deer would have a better quality rifle.
Also, Oswald is a choice of words for someone in such a stressful Oswald is a choice of words for someone in such a It would be expected to just say they were innocent, etc.
Perhaps he said he was set up to take the fall.
The most important suspect in the entire world at that moment ends up dead right within the police station.
Had that happened in another country, no American would believe the official story.
I responded.
And see if that doesn't answer most of your questions.
Everything Lee told Will Fritz has turned out to be right.
That he was the Patsy.
That backyard photograph of someone else's body with his face pasted on.
And he was outside with co-workers watching the shooting when the shooting took place.
Parallel with Sirhan.
Sirhan in relation to the death of his brother, RFK.
Add any further questions.
So, Dr. Rock writes, this is the 8th.
Exactly.
And that really starts with how and then to who and then to why, of course.
The problem now is we'll never get to the who, and thus we'll always be forced to speculate on the why.
However, the baseline reality is that elements within our government either assassinated, helped assassinate, or allowed the assassination of a U.S.
president, and allowed it to go unresolved and unpunished.
Thus, at minimum, every agency that was complicit in the crime in the cover-up, Must be completely eliminated, not just because if they did it once they could do it again, but because they obviously cannot address it at all.
Ergo, the FBI and CIA must be eliminated completely and something else built in their stead, or maybe not.
Have the US Marshals take over all the needed FBI roles and use military intelligence in place of the CIA.
I added to Dr. Rock, actually, we know about 90% of what there is to know, including the who, the how, and the why, citing here the cover of my fourth book on JFK, Who, How, and Why.
Just watch my JFK special of 18 November 2021 and let you know what else you want to know.
Because I've been doing, you know, all this research with these experts and putting it together.
Now, here's Apocalypse in Wonderland.
This one bothers me for multiple reasons.
No need to buy this book.
There's an excellent free online source which provides an in-depth forensic analysis.
Especially how the autopsy was falseified.
Altered history exposing deceit and deception in the JFK assassination medical evidence part one.
Explore freedom is a source.
FFF.org.
Of particular interest is the throat, which did not come from a gunshot, but a flechette weapon devised by the technical services of the CIA.
Is he also Fletcher Browdy?
And he gives a site to Radical, R-A-T-I-C-A-L dot O, Radical slash J-A-M-K slash T-U-M dot H-T-M-L.
Radical is also a valuable JFK source.
For those who are more interested in the why than the how, I've not found a better book than The Unspeakable by James Douglas.
And James Douglas is a good guy.
And he's got it.
Here we have, and I say, bad, without even reading the book, Apocalypse in Wonderland would take us down the Apocalypse in Wonderland would take us down the rabbit hole with distraction and disinformation.
This book focuses on the medical evidence.
I and others, such as Phil Nelson and Roger Stone, focus on the politics.
And is Apocalypse telling us that anyone who has views about Israel at different permits cannot make the truth about JFK?
As it happens, I am an avid anti-Zionist and even Holocaust denier.
So if Jerry and David and I were to agree on the politics of the assassination, would that mean that Jerry could not be right?
What kind of nonsense is that?
The guy has not even watched my JFK special, which integrates the politics with the science.
That troubles me a lot.
Actually, we have another here.
John Smith 001.
Does anyone think that's a real name?
Of course, he is a rabid Zionist.
I am sure this book is nothing more than an attempt to muddy the water, make no connection between Rubinstein, the Jewish Mafia, the Jewish Dallas Money Power, LBJ, Ben Gurion, James Jesus, Engel, and Mossad.
I'll bet a hundred bucks.
There's little to no mention of any of these things in his book.
There's no mention of JFK and Ben-Gurion's feud over Israel's nuclear program.
Mossad killed JFK because he was trying to put a stop to their nuclear weapon program.
They're probably led by Ben-Gurion himself, who resigned rather than receive a letter from Kennedy demanding an end to it.
Lesser known is that Kennedy was also planning to demand a two-state solution with a right of return for Palestinians personally.
I think the latter was a bigger threat, but either was enough motive for them to kill him.
Corsi has claimed on air, on Alex Jones Show, to be in contact with the most sought top intelligence in Israel, in my opinion.
Corsi is nothing but a disinformation agent like Jones, Let's steer people away from the conclusion that Jewish power does not want people to make, as every aspect of the JFK assassination having direct ties back to the Jewish mafia in Israel.
Lansky and the Jewish mob were also instrumental in the founding of Israel and arming them for the Naqba, in other words.
Lansky and the Jewish mafia were joined at the hip with Jewish terrorists, That eventually became Assad and Ben-Gurion from before the founding of Israel.
And I say, that's very peculiar because I'm an anti-Zionist.
This is very interesting stuff.
"Apocalypse in Wonderland." I'm gonna reply to this, Other guy.
And I wish that these readers would actually follow all the leads here, read the book and so forth.
Check it out.
Somehow, I guess we lost the break.
I wait for the break and it did not come to pass, so.
I'm certainly going to open the line for callers.
Stand by.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
8-727-608 9-5-7 8-727 Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Go ahead, 408- Join the conversation.
Give us your thoughts.
Boy, I really wish you could get over this JFK thing.
Very good, Paul.
Very good.
Oh, man.
You know, I was having this thought.
I was thinking this would be interesting, right?
Even for myself, but for you.
You could go back in time, but you would have an altered physical appearance.
So the 1963-1964 Jim Fetzer wouldn't know he's talking to the 2024 Jim Fetzer.
And you would be tasked with describing the world in 2024 to what were you at that time?
22, 23 years old, something like that?
Yeah, I would.
I would turn the year, you know, the age of the year I'm born in 40.
So I would have been 23 at the time.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
So I just was, I mean, you know, yeah, I figured you were about that.
Cause I was going to be, uh, eight, eight years old, uh, in 10 days when, uh, when, uh, John F. Kennedy was, uh, you know, so, yeah.
Just had, had that thought, you know, like, would you ever have believed this person from the future that was going to describe, I mean, many of them, like, you know, By the way, we have the space program, but we're going to fake going to the moon, and on and on and on.
Yes.
Hang on.
We got Brian here, too.
Brian, go ahead, join.
You and Paul, go ahead.
Go ahead, give me your thoughts.
Have I got it right, Eric?
406, is that not Brian?
No, it's Keith.
Keith!
Okay, Keith!
Yeah, go for it, Keith!
Please, please, please!
Yeah, yeah, I sent you a video link to Kennedy's audio biographer in your email if you want to play that for, you know, it's just a short video.
Tell me about it.
Well, it's him who explains, the audiographer explains how because of Ben-Gurion and stuff like that that the Mossad took out Kennedy.
It's self-explanatory in the video.
But Keith, you understand, they were only part of it.
He had all these other parties.
We had the anti-Castro Cubans had a shooter.
The Texas oilman had a shooter.
The Fed had a shooter.
The anti-Castro Cubans had a shooter.
Lyndon Johnson had a shooter.
The Joint Chiefs had a shooter?
I don't like this oversimplification of saying it was all Israel.
It's not true.
It was more complicated.
No, I believe one thing, though, Jim, is that the Cuba thing plays a dramatic role in it.
CIA commenting about the assassination, but it was what was going on at the time in Cuba, because this was the playground of the Playboys.
And when the Cuban Revolution came around, was it in 53?
I guess it was.
No, 58, I think it was.
Anyway, they lost a lot down there.
And there's an old New York Times article of 1860 that I could send you.
But it talks about exactly the grand mecca of Cuba, what they did after the U.S. kicked Spain out of Cuba there, the immense wealth and stuff that the rich oligarchs were enjoying from Cuba. the immense wealth and stuff that the rich oligarchs were But anyway, I was just listening here, but I just thought if you wanted to play that shortly, Let me find it.
I mean, there are a lot of Kennedy biographies.
Here you go.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Let me find it, Keith.
Let me find it.
I mean, there are a lot of Kennedy biographies.
Here you go.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
There's a very surprising series of letters between Kennedy and David Ben-Gurion, not only the prime minister, premier of Israel, but the founder of Israel, in which they're very angry letters, in which Kennedy is saying to Ben-Gurion, in which Kennedy is saying to Ben-Gurion, I'm killing myself trying to get a nuclear test ban treaty.
I've even got De Gaulle on board and that's impossible.
And you keep testing in Dimona.
You've got to stop.
And Ben-Gurion, Ben-Gurion.
Ben-Gurion, thank you.
In so many words, says it's easy for you to say sitting in Hyannisport.
I'm sitting with the Arabs all around me, and you want me to give up nuclear testing.
And Kennedy threatens him.
And he threatens him in such a way that Ben-Gurion resigned.
And I will tell you that I found articles, not in any crackpot publications, but in very sophisticated publications saying, forget Lyndon Johnson, forget the CIA, forget Fidel Caspro.
The Mossad killed Kennedy because they were so upset over what he did to Ben-Gurion. - Okay.
And I say, Keith, that Mossad threw in on the assassination.
Ben-Gurion had them participate, but it was not their deal.
It began in 1960.
It began in Los Angeles.
This is before Jack had any email correspondence with Ben-Gurion.
It began in 1960 when JFK beat LBJ for the presidential nomination of the Democrat Party.
He invited Stuart Symington to be his running mate.
Senator from Missouri gave him overnight to think about it.
Meanwhile, Bobby went to the Johnson suite to extend a pro forma, purely symbolic invitation to run with JFK, never imagining he'd have the least interest.
Lyndon jumped on it.
And he said that.
If he were not on the ticket, he'd expose that among JFK's dalliances was one with a beautiful woman who was a spy for East Germany, information he'd obtained from J. Edgar Hoover, and that he had Addison's disease and wasn't expected to live a long, healthy life.
And if he were not on the ticket, then any legislative proposal sent out from the White House would be dead on arrival.
Because he would bottle him up as a powerful majority leader of the Senate, and they had to acquiesce.
Now, when it was announced that Lyndon was going to be running with Jack, one of his wealthy supporters was furious, broke into the Johnson's week cursing and swearing.
Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained to him what they had in mind.
He came out all smiles, saying he thought that was an excellent plan.
Bobby Baker would later in public declare JFK would not live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
Wait a minute.
And in the course of events, Lyndon said his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make all the arrangements, to make sure all the arrangements for the assassination were in place.
That's when it began.
It's like you repeat, you got these little vignettes that you say over and over and over again.
And I don't know if you even question some of the things that you say.
Like you just said, he was in, he broke in, he's all mad, right?
Kicking and screaming.
He said, no, no, hold on here.
Don't worry about it.
He's not going to live with it.
Why is he going to be all upset?
Right?
Why is he all upset?
Because LBJ was going to help JFK become president.
You don't get that?
Not really, no.
There's a lot of things that don't make sense to me.
They really don't.
Well, Paul, what makes sense to one person may make perfect sense to another.
It's got a lot to do with your background and your analytic ability and all that.
So what, you don't think LBJ was a mastermind behind the assassination?
Not necessarily, no.
Look, it's all speculation at this point, but I'll tell you what I do think.
This is nothing I'm telling you is speculation.
I had over a hundred conversations with Madeline Duncan Brown.
She was a... Wait a minute.
Now, I don't get to take off on a word that you say very rarely, so please don't take off on a word that I say such as speculation.
In terms of knowing exactly, okay, who, what, where, when, why, and how, okay, a lot of it is speculation.
Some of it is provable, the physical evidence, as you say, right?
I had another... I don't want to get down the sidetrack here, but For example, the alteration of x-rays.
That's an interesting topic to me.
I'll have to get into later because I know it's a photograph and an x-ray, completely different things.
And I don't really know.
I would like to know how it is they would alter these x-rays and exactly what the purpose was for that.
But I'm just going to say this for the moment.
I don't believe that the Mona thing has any significance at all.
I think it's a red herring.
I think if again, and you know, we've had this conversation before after Jay Widener and we didn't get into it that much, but If Kennedy was killed for any number of reasons, the number one reason, which we rarely hear about, is the money.
OK, the Federal Reserve.
All right.
I really do believe that is the main thing, if not maybe the preeminent reason that they're not going to allow.
OK, it's similar.
You know, you go all the way back in time to, you know, Germany and World War Two, and that was probably the biggest reason.
I mean, it started out with the English.
Of course, they were always run by these people.
Right, Jews and the Jewish East India Company.
And it was well known even in World War One, they wanted to eliminate Germany as an economic competitor.
But then once that was, you know, on the table, then of course, when they started to have their own money, that just cannot be allowed, you know, in this system that we live in, because that is their means of ruling us.
It's not a sense of guilt, okay, rooted in the Holocaust.
That's not it at all.
It's always been about money and the control of money.
And with all this money, they can basically buy people.
They can buy the government.
Just like in the movie Idiocracy, where Brondo bought the government.
So again, you know what I feel about nuclear weapons.
I don't think they're real, okay?
They could have come along after the fact, but it's sort of like when you look into the evidence of that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed, that they weren't nuked, okay?
That's clear when you actually study the photographs and you understand the analysis that other people have subjected these photographs to.
And then you also look at the very specious trail of scientific proof, so-called proof, that that nuclear fission based upon, you know, what's known as a low energy collision, in other words, neutron absorption, is very, very questionable.
You have to ask yourself, OK, well, if they didn't really nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki, then, you know, obviously they had to fake it similar to that.
They didn't go to the moon.
They had to fake it.
Okay, and they're not above faking things, as you know.
So, again, this is just where I come out.
So, the Damona thing to me, I've never really bought, and I don't buy it now.
I don't believe there's any Samson option.
I believe it's all bullshit.
Yeah, go ahead, please.
If you listen to Robert McNamara, it took 350 sorties to burn Tokyo to the ground.
So, figure that in when you think of one single bomb that would do the same damage in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
Anyway, I do have to roll here, but I did want to say one other thing.
Jim, I've got some other footage and stuff where they're talking about The OSS slash CIA, right after the war, they had buried a bunch of Soviet weapons on the island of Barbados, which was to be used in this Bay of Pigs.
And a lot of this centers, I believe, this is just my opinion here, that a lot of it centered around what they had planned for Cuba.
Remember, the revolution is what you have to think of the timing and stuff of what was going on there.
But IT&T was pissed off because when Castro had seized the IT&T there, I think it was a billion-dollar revenue.
And it's the same thing if you look back at Chile.
It's the same thing with IT&T.
A lot of big money with the telcos and stuff, just like... What's his name?
He's a Jewish billionaire.
He and Mitt Romney, they have been buying up all these distressed telcos and stuff throughout South America and stuff, and the islands.
But it's like Amdocs, you know, from 9-11.
They want total control of all the communications and stuff.
And just like with the internet, TikTok, all this stuff, they want total control of everything like that.
So anyway, but the Islander Barbados came in there because they wanted to make sure it was Soviet weapons.
That way, if anything was discovered, And in that one video, you can see Castro as a president of these arms, saying that this was all done by America and stuff.
But I think that Cuba is related so much to this JFK thing, and the fact that he was Catholic, because at the same time, they were getting ready to push this feminist movement, which is abortions and stuff.
And Kennedy came from a family of, what, 11?
And what do we see the FBI doing right now, going into Catholic homes and wanting to put informants in the churches and stuff?
And the FBI is trained by the ADL.
Right.
So that's a very interesting thing, too.
Yeah.
I mean, if we look at it all in terms of this word that I became familiar with back in the 80s when I was listening to this guy on FM radio show, No, you.
So if we all if you view it from the fact that it's just part of this Jewish milieu, OK, of their power, the the basically, shall we say, continuation of and the strengthening of and, you know, the pervasiveness of their influence on most every aspect of our society.
And of course, along with that goes their history of fraud and deception.
Right.
So, you know, yeah, I like a lot of what you're saying.
I'm not sure exactly what you meant by, you know, the 350 sorties with Tokyo versus, you know, the B-25 to the B-50.
I'm not into aeronautics and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I'm not into aeronautics and stuff like that.
But anyway, when LeMay and McNamara was discussing afterwards that they would be counted as war criminals for what they had done because they had burned 69 cities in Japan.
The fact is, is McNamara kept commenting on Tokyo, you know, 100,000 dead.
But that wasn't it, because McNamara then says, out of the 69 cities, he says it would have been as if 27 million Americans died.
And if you watch that video, Fog of War, it gives you a screen by screen as he's talking of like the bombings in one town would equal 35% of Los Angeles, 75% of Chicago.
It goes on like that.
And if you go back to demographics again there, the before population of World War II in Japan, well, you know, in Japan itself, And then afterwards, the numbers do crunch that about 27 million Japanese died.
And I think there's some other stuff on the outline, you know, for all the Iwo Jima and stuff like that, because those island battles were bloody and stuff.
But EMJ, E. Michael Jones, comments on Oppenheimer 2, on his video on Bitchute, that the Jews were the ones that were behind the Manhattan Project.
And, uh, one of the main centers hit over there and I can't remember whether it was the Hiroshima or the Nagasaki, but it was a Catholic, uh, like.
Right.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I've, I've heard this angle before and you know, my friend who's very, very Catholic and very, very anti-Jew has informed me going back to the nineties about, Oh, okay.
You know, that it was a very Christian or very Catholic city.
And I just dismissed this off the, I mean, let me finish, please.
If they burned 69 cities to the ground, OK, you can't convince me that a motive for any single one of them was that that particular city, right?
I forget which one he said it was.
Hiroshima, I believe, had a very large Christian or Catholic population.
To me, that just sounds like a bunch of nonsense.
So it's the most.
It's just one area.
Yeah, it's a very.
It's like if you look at the Democrats in Taiwan and stuff, you'll see that there's a plethora of religions and stuff.
I think it's like 30 some odd different religions in Taiwan.
But I just want to say this one more thing.
CIA John Stockwell had noted that, like when they were talking about the Red Dawn and stuff, where the Cubans, the Soviets, and Nicaraguans were to parachute into Colorado and have a bunch of footballers kick their ass and stuff like that.
But he noted that, you know, you have to realize, They weren't killing Soviets throughout Central America, they were killing Catholics.
Because any of these videos, and I'm not Catholic, but anyway, any of these videos you watch like Dangerous Roads, Peru and stuff, these are very high.
videos like Dangerous Roads Peru and stuff.
These are very high, 88%, matter of fact, in Venezuela.
You have to look at the demographics.
Uh, so listen, so there's a, there's a keyword that you just use demographics.
So let's stay on that because as I made this point on the show many times that I made it other places.
Okay.
These people, okay.
The, you know, who's, they don't like anybody else.
Okay.
So really in my mind, it doesn't really matter if you want to make the case to me that on a religious or philosophical basis, they hate Christians the most.
then fine, I'll believe you.
But you fill a room with a bunch of people, right?
And I don't care, you know, you put white people and brown people and black people and Arab people, whatever.
You put 100 or 200 people in a room.
Tell me which ones are Catholic or which ones are Christian.
You know, you can't because it's a concept.
The point I'm making is this is historically, racially, right?
These people were known, okay?
Christians to me means white people, OK, now you can say there's Japanese Christians or there's Chinese Christians.
OK, fine.
But again, most of the time, a Japanese or a Chinese person is not going to be Christian.
So therefore, you can't really tell.
You can tell what a race somebody is by looking at them, but you can't tell what religion.
So if you want to say a country is 80 percent Christian or Catholic and somehow they're making war upon that country for that reason.
OK, fine.
Then we're talking about numbers and probability there.
But what I'm telling you, and this is what I believe, okay, is they don't give a damn what religion you are, because this is a racial conflict.
This is not a religion conflict.
Well, I realize it's a category of the mind.
The thing with religion, though, is years ago when people used to ask you, like, hey, Jim, Mr. Fetcher, what are you?
And he'd say, well, I'm agnostic.
Another guy would say I'm Catholic.
Another guy would say I'm Protestant.
Another guy would say, hey, I'm Jehovah's Witness or Mormon.
There was never race tied to it.
Well, I know, but that doesn't mean it's not there.
That's a reality.
And so that's what these people see.
Okay.
In other words, it's white people.
Okay.
So all this, whether you're Christian or Protestant or Lutheran or Methodist, America was white people.
Okay.
And it wasn't that long ago.
It's within our living memories.
All of us here on this phone, it's within all our living memories that America was 90% plus white.
Okay.
That's all they're after.
That's why they're flooding us with all these non-whites.
Okay.
It doesn't really matter what religion they are.
But just quickly, because I didn't get to finish, you know, what my thought about this.
You mentioned something about 350 sorties in Tokyo, as opposed to what I mentioned before about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So, you know, since we weren't there, we don't know exactly what took place.
But again, what we're left to go on is looking at the photographs after and the damages incongruous with what their claim is.
In other words, if they claim That there's a single bomb that has a certain amount of explosive power, that can reach certain temperatures, and so on and so forth, then based upon those calculations, the damage would look a certain way, as opposed to looking like it was firebombed with asymmetrical damage.
Because when you get firebombed... Hey, what about the Tsar bomb over there in Russia?
What's that?
What about the Tsar bomb over there in Russia?
50 megatons.
You saw the damage it did.
No, I never saw the damage it did.
Again, well, there's videos online.
I don't believe it just because they have a video.
There's all kinds of videos that are live.
It's a video, right?
So again, this is something you have to walk down this road with an open mind.
I'm not saying at this point.
Okay.
It's one of these things where it's a very, very, very firm belief.
There's certain things that I believe I know beyond any doubt.
Okay.
I'm not going to apply that to nuclear weapons.
But if you've read, and I know you haven't, okay, if you've read Akio Nakatani's work, right, Death Object Exploding the Nuclear Weapons Hoax, which I sent to Jim, which he has not read yet.
And he probably won't ever read until the day he dies, which is fine.
That's his choice.
But if people were to look at that and then go to the site, big-lies.org, big-lies.org, or also big-lies.
I'll tell you what, we're running out of time here.
Okay, well, there's a lot of information there.
The way things are going right now, we're about ready to see whether or not there's nukes or not because of what's going on over in Ukraine with the French Senate.
There's not.
There's not.
I've been right on every single prediction I've ever made on Jim Fetcher.
We'll see.
I basically said 100%.
Love it.
We'll see.
Hey, you guys.
Excellent, excellent.
I'm so glad you both called in.
That's wonderful.
I want to have you back to discuss this further.
I may have a Jerry Corsi back next Wednesday, okay?
We couldn't do it today.
We'll do it next Wednesday.
I want you both to call in.
We'll talk about it more.
Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about.
We do not know how much time we have left.
Thank you.
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