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The “Reality” Presented to You is THEATER FOR YOUR MIND - BBN, Mar 14, 2023

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	Welcome to Brighton Broadcast News for Thursday, March 14th.
	Had to look it up.
	2024.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	And the topic of the day, at least this is the working title, is that the, quote, reality presented to you is theater for your mind.
	Now, you probably already know that.
	But today you're going to hear some examples that will be incredibly shocking to many of you, even though you may consider yourself red-pilled or you may consider yourself quite awake or aware.
	What you're about to hear today probably goes way beyond that.
	So you're probably already familiar with all the theater surrounding January 6.
	You know that it was the Deep State that planted that pipe bomb near the DNC headquarters.
	You know that Liz Cheney withheld the exonerating evidence that showed Donald Trump actually tried to offer, I think, what was it, 10,000 National Guard troops to help secure the January 6 event.
	And we know they deleted a bunch of footage from the Capitol.
	We know the whole thing was rigged.
	That's just one example of theater.
	But of course, a lot of 9-11 was or had elements of controlled theater or really controlled demolition in that case.
	Now, when I say theater, I don't mean that the event didn't happen.
	I actually mean the event did happen as theater.
	It was staged in order to assault the psyche of the American mind.
	So 9-11 happened.
	Those weren't holograms.
	You know, three buildings were destroyed.
	But why?
	The three buildings coming down, not just the Twin Towers, but Building 7, this was theater for your mind.
	There was something that was being accomplished, really neurologically or psychologically, by that event.
	It was a fear-based event in order to justify the massive expansion of government power.
	And again, I know that you probably already know that, but today we have something really special for you.
	So, of course, we're going to cover some breaking news here first, but when we get to the mind-warping section of the show today, there are three things I'm going to run past you here.
	First, our interview today is with Bart Sabrell.
	Now, Bart Sabrell is the author of Moonman, and he is a longtime researcher, analyst, and author who convincingly asserts that the Apollo moon landings We're faked.
	And, as you'll find out in our interview, Russia knows the Apollo moon landings were faked, China knows they were faked, and the astronauts know as well.
	Now, it doesn't mean that we haven't sent people into orbit, because we have.
	And it doesn't mean that unmanned probes haven't gone to the moon, because they have.
	China has sent some, and I think India I tried to send one.
	I'm not sure that one made it.
	I think it crashed, if I'm recalling correctly.
	But anyway, things have been sent to the moon, and obviously, explorers have been sent to Mars, and so on.
	So, this isn't a guy who's saying something like the Earth is flat, or that the moon doesn't exist, or whatever.
	He's just saying that human beings couldn't have survived that journey at all because of the radiation.
	And that the United States faked the Apollo moon landings in the same way that the U.S.
	is faking everything today about elections, about January 6, about 9-11, and also many elements about the war with Russia.
	If you think about the whole history of the United States is nothing but fakery, even the COVID pandemic fakery.
	Which brings me to the second point today.
	We're going to be covering a story featuring Dr. Sam Bailey.
	And I'm pretty sure that's Samantha because I interviewed her.
	And Dr. Sam Bailey, she says that viruses don't exist.
	And what she means by that is that the whole field of virology, she says, is a total fraud and there's no such thing as a viral particle that can be extracted from one person who's sick and symptomatic and then isolated and identified, oh here's the virus, and then put into another person where it replicates and reproduces the same symptoms that were observed in the first person.
	It turns out that, in fact, that process I just described has never happened in medical science.
	There's not a single science paper that ever shows that happening.
	Not one.
	And the more we learn about so-called virology and the fraud of PCR, the fraud of DNA testing and all that, I mean, we've even covered the fraudulent labs that have been shut down just recently.
	And it turns out that this whole field of virology It appears to be based on nothing but exosome sorcery or something.
	It's just a bunch of made-up crap in order to terrorize people.
	At least that's what Dr. Sam Bailey is explaining.
	And so we're going to cover that story as well.
	It's been a while since I've interviewed her, and I only interviewed her once, but maybe I should have her back on.
	Now then, there's something else.
	And I'm not going to cover this in detail, but it is worth mentioning if you're trying to track the degree of fakery and theater in the world.
	Now, I don't know, I haven't looked into this issue myself, but Candace Owens says that the quote, wife of French President Macron is actually a man.
	And she says, quote, I would stake my entire professional reputation on this.
	Here's what she says, quote, after looking into this, I would stake my entire professional reputation on the fact that Brigitte Macron is in fact a man, she says.
	Any journalist or publication that is trying to dismiss this plausibility is immediately identifiable as establishment.
	I've never seen anything like this in my life, she says.
	Okay.
	I mean, we have.
	Does anybody remember the Obama administration?
	Anyway, the implications here are terrifying, she says.
	I do not intend to let up on this story.
	I'm calling on other journalists to look into this explosive story and report accordingly.
	And then she links to a video.
	Now, This isn't something that I've, this is actually new on my radar.
	And as far as I'm concerned, by the way, I don't actually care if Macron's wife is a man or a woman.
	I don't care.
	I mean, I don't know, and I don't care.
	But I do know that France is in real trouble in terms of what Macron is doing about, you know, Russia.
	I think that's a much bigger issue in terms of what we should be paying attention to.
	That Macron is going to send maybe 100,000 French troops to their deaths to be slaughtered on the front lines of Ukraine and the Ukraine-Russia war.
	So I'm a lot more concerned about Stopping the bloodshed and the violence and the war, then I am concerned about whether Brigitte Macron has a bunch of junk showing through his or her dress.
	Okay?
	And there are photos of that out there.
	But whether or not Breguet is a biological man or a woman or has the hardware of a man or a woman, the bigger point I'm trying to make here is that there are elements of theater that we've all been subjected to.
	And many of those elements of theater have been labeled science, or, let's say, space exploration, or medicine, or virology, or biology.
	Now remember, the people that tell us we have to trust the science are also telling us that a man can become a woman.
	Which is what Candace Owens is saying that Macron's wife is claiming or has gone through.
	I mean, that's her claim.
	Again, I don't know if that's true or not.
	I haven't looked into it.
	But we are told that a man can become a woman, which is absurd.
	And we're told crazy things like the COVID virus, it would spread from your mouth while you're talking and it would go just under six feet.
	But if you stood six feet apart, you were safe.
	If you stood closer than six feet, the virus would get you.
	And we were told that there's nothing you could do to fight the virus because natural immunity doesn't exist anymore.
	That's what we were told.
	And the only way to get immunity is to take a vaccine.
	But it turns out it wasn't a vaccine.
	It was actually a gene therapy intervention that was never actually formally approved by the FDA.
	It was given emergency use authorization, which means they bypassed clinical trials.
	So there's really no legitimate science backing it whatsoever.
	But if you didn't take it, you were told to trust the science.
	So again, the people that say trust the science say that a man can become a woman, or that men can give birth to children.
	Or they'll even tell you there was no third building that collapsed on 9-11, and that if you even mention World Trade Center 7, you're a conspiracy theorist, even though that building collapsed in perfect demolition style.
	Well, getting back to Bart Sobrell, he's got a recorded confession by, I believe it's the son of an astronaut, a deathbed confession, who says the whole thing was faked.
	He's also got a video that's absolutely mind-blowing.
	I've seen this video that shows Apollo astronauts faking like they were halfway to the moon and filming a kind of interview in in the capsule and appearing to show behind them a small Earth in the distance through the portal window of the the whatever module they're flying in.
	I forgot all the names of these these modules.
	It's the part that's flying to the moon, right?
	So they were looking through the window, or they're showing you through the window, and they show you a really small Earth in the distance, and they say, we're halfway to the moon.
	And then they finish the interview, the lights come up, And they take this, what appears to be a giant cardboard cutout, off the window, and you can see, oh my god, the Earth is right there, really close, and is filling the window.
	It's not a tiny Earth in the distance, and they faked it, and the whole thing was kind of a studio type of arrangement, and the whole thing was kind of a, like an orbital module studio setup.
	So yeah, they were probably in orbit filming this, faking like they were halfway to the moon, and Bart Sabrell got the video.
	The official NASA video is out there.
	And you can see it for yourself.
	In fact, we're going to show you some shocking videos from Bart Sabrell.
	Now, I just want to be clear here.
	You may agree or disagree on these particular issues.
	You may think absolutely that American astronauts walked on the moon in the 1970s.
	Okay, fine.
	You may think that viruses exist and they're deadly and everybody should take vaccines.
	Okay, that's your choice.
	You may think that Macron's wife is a woman.
	Fine, maybe she is.
	I don't know.
	That's not the point of whether you believe each one of these things or not.
	The point is, That there are such huge questions now that are emerging about what we're told.
	The official narratives are falling apart.
	They're unraveling right before our very eyes.
	Narratives like, you know, the dollar is the strongest currency in the world.
	Or narratives like the U.S.
	is defending democracy and freedom around the world by dropping bombs on everybody.
	Or narratives like Trump and conservatives are a threat to democracy and we have to defend democracy by silencing conservatives.
	That anybody who questions the election that the Democrats rigged is a threat to democracy.
	You're being lied to by the establishment constantly.
	Every single day in one way or another you are being lied to.
	Now the reason all of this matters so much or one of the reasons is because I've come to the realization that of course we've been lied to our entire lives, but we've also been lied to about everything even before our own lives.
	We've been given false history, false science, false geopolitics, false memories, cultural memories of who we are, where we came from, what's happening, why we're here.
	And right now, we are living through, at least, I mean, you and I, those of us who are still alive, we are living through a planetary scale human depopulation agenda that clearly has non-human origins.
	Someone is trying to eliminate all human beings from planet Earth, someone or something, and there are multiple theories about that, typically either demons, Exotic AI or extraterrestrials.
	Those are the three common theories.
	And some people think that two of those might be the same thing.
	It's hard to know, but some non-human intelligence has been issuing orders to the globalists, which have been filtered down to the national leaders and the governors and so on, to achieve global depopulation.
	We are living in an extermination agenda.
	And of course, the vaccines are one of the biggest components of that, but it's also now the takedown of the global food supply.
	And in this entire process of trying to exterminate human beings, the theatrical element, the attack on your mind through a psychological theater, is the most dangerous and deadly weapon of all.
	Because, through the fear of the plandemic, they convinced people to line up and take the jabs voluntarily.
	The depopulation jabs.
	The bioweapons.
	They convinced people to turn their bodies into spike protein factories so that they would shed toxic particles onto other people.
	Now, notice I'm not saying that those are viruses.
	Because one person can't shed something to somebody else that then replicates.
	That's not what's been happening, but they can generate toxic particles, i.e., you could call these biological weapons.
	Or even maybe self-generated chemical weapons, you could say.
	That's being shed on other people and that's causing a lot of effects and also the vaccines are killing many people.
	I think the vaccines had really two goals.
	One was to directly exterminate a lot of people who took them.
	But secondly, was to transform people's bodies into factories of essentially biological weapons or toxic particle factories.
	And that's happening as well.
	So as they walk around, they're making the people sick around them just because of exposure to toxins.
	But we're told lies about everything, especially climate change.
	The whole climate change agenda is theater for your mind.
	Think about how they're using it now.
	They're saying we have to shut down all farms and food and cattle and combustion engines and energy because of the climate.
	Folks, that's a suicide mission.
	If you shut down farms, you have no food.
	If you shut down combustion engines, you have no food, you have no industry, you have no economy.
	Well, that's their goal.
	It's the extermination of the human race.
	But they had to convince you to go along with it.
	With the climate change narrative.
	Just like they had to convince you to line up and take a shot that might kill you with the plandemic narrative.
	Because it's so much easier, and this is true on a global level, it's so much easier for whoever's in charge to exterminate people if they can convince those people to go along with their own extermination and not resist.
	Now, let's just imagine, for example, imagine planet Earth were under attack by little green aliens from planet Zorg, I like to say.
	So, the UFOs are in orbit from planet Zorg and then all the aliens are beamed down to the surface and they announce, we are coming to kill you!
	You cannot run!
	And they just run around zapping everybody with their laser guns.
	Pew!
	And killing everybody.
	Okay, if that were the, I understand that's kind of a comic book approach to it, but if that, if they tried that, if that were real, and if they were doing it that way, people would resist!
	People would pick up firearms and fight back.
	People would say, no, you're not going to shoot me with your alien lasers!
	And they would run, and they would hide, and they would resist, right?
	So, that's not the way.
	To exterminate the planet.
	You want to choose a way, if you're some entity that's trying to destroy planet Earth, you want to figure out a way to do it so that people go along with it.
	And then you don't have to fight them.
	In fact, they will force other fellow human beings to comply with the suicide.
	That's what we saw with all these doctors that were pushing jabs on other people, and now a lot of those doctors are dead, right?
	But they enforced it onto a bunch of other people.
	So whoever's actually running this depopulation campaign, they didn't have to enforce anything.
	All they had to do was create the fear.
	They had to push the false narratives.
	And then most of the population went along with their own extermination.
	That's what we're seeing.
	Same thing with climate change and the destruction of the food supply and farms and the destruction of fossil fuels that actually keep humanity alive.
	This is all an agenda to get the human population to be complicit in its own extermination.
	And once you start to peel back the layers of this twisted onion, let's say, the layers of lies, You'll be shocked to discover that it's endless.
	You'll be shocked to find out just how many lies you've been told, even through your childhood in school, the history lessons you were taught, the science lessons you were taught, lie after lie after lie, and the lies never stopped.
	They continue to this day, like by dynamics right now.
	We're told there's no inflation and the economy is great.
	But, did you know even the Wall Street Journal is now reporting this?
	That the Dollar Tree stores are closing 1,000 stores across America.
	Dollar Tree!
	Or, I'm sorry, Family Dollar is what it is.
	I'm looking at the story now.
	Owner of Family Dollar to close 1,000 stores.
	All right, so from the story, okay, that's why I thought it was Dollar Tree, because Dollar Tree is the company that owns the family dollar chain.
	Okay, now it makes sense.
	So, it's a thousand family dollar stores, which is family dollar.
	Might be similar to Idiocracy when they invoked the phrase, family style.
	I don't know if you recall that scene, but family style.
	You mind if we have a go at our family style?
	Remember that from Idiocracy?
	Yeah.
	Family dollar stores, a thousand of them are closing across the country.
	And according to the Wall Street Journal, it's because of inflation, which, of course, the Biden regime says doesn't exist.
	Store theft.
	I assume they mean the theft of inventory from the stores, not the actual theft of the store.
	And merger indigestion.
	That's an odd phrase.
	Okay.
	So, nauseating mergers, basically.
	So, from the story of the Wall Street Journal, executives at McDonald's also said that cash-strapped consumers are pulling back in 2024.
	They're only ordering eight McNuggets instead of nine.
	OK, no.
	Lower-income consumers increasingly have spent their savings and are turning to grocery stores instead of restaurants, McDonald's finance chief Ian Borden said at an investor conference.
	Some of those consumers are just choosing to eat at home more often.
	I'm not sure that eating at home costs less than eating at McDonald's these days, given all the inflation at the grocery store.
	But anyway, Dollar Tree is closing a thousand stores, which means that people are even too broke to shop at the dollar stores.
	Meanwhile, there's a concerted effort to destroy the cattle industry in Texas.
	And in fact, I have a short video to play for you here from a man who appears to be a cattle rancher, a Texas cattle rancher.
	Seems to be from Texas.
	I don't know who this man is, but what he's saying makes a lot of sense.
	But check this out.
	We used to make a fair amount of return on our cattle, but the industry has changed dramatically with the government allowing The consolidation of the meat processing business.
	Four companies, giant companies, got together and decided to roll that up, consolidate it, and that's just business.
	But when we get on the other side of it, and we take into account the ramifications on our national economic health, it has a very detrimental effect.
	Our government allowed Two giant companies controlled by foreign governments to come in and acquire.
	One of them is controlled by the Chinese and they bought Smithfield out of North Carolina and the other one was a Brazilian company that came in and bought up one of the other major players.
	So now we have an industry, 85% of it actually, has been consolidated and rolled up and controlled by four companies.
	Four companies now are dictating who gets what, where and when.
	Nobody thought our government would let 50% or more of the beat processing be controlled by countries outside of the U.S.
	It comes down to our own food source security.
	The geopolitical situation we find ourselves in, why would we want to have an antagonist own 25% of our meat processing?
	It makes no sense at all.
	So there you go.
	Four large megacorporations own 85% of the beef industry.
	Two of them are foreign-owned.
	One of them is Chinese.
	So that means America's food supply is not controlled by Americans.
	And of course, since Biden shut down America's domestic energy exploration and pipelines, he did a lot of that on day one, signing executive orders.
	And since then, he's banned LNG exports out of Texas or new licenses for exports.
	We're no longer energy independent.
	So let's see, America doesn't have its own industry by and large.
	That's all outsourced.
	America doesn't produce enough of its own energy anymore to be self-reliant.
	America doesn't even control a lot of its own food supply.
	But what does America manufacture?
	Sickening LGBT culture.
	Something like 30% of today's youth consider themselves to be LGBTQ, by the way.
	America manufactures inflation and exports that.
	America manufactures false narratives, lies.
	America manufactures weapons of war, that's for sure, lots of bombs and they like to use them to bomb other countries or to give them to other countries like Israel to bomb civilians in Gaza.
	So the United States of America is really a country that creates disease, you know, with the vaccines and the bioweapons.
	America creates disease, war, debt, suffering, evil culture, transgenderism, propaganda.
	You know, these are the things that America is now known for around the world.
	For doing those things, or creating those things, exporting those things.
	It's extraordinary.
	Now we're going to shift gears here for just a minute because yesterday I reported to you that one of my sources told me that there was an attempted CIA coup against Netanyahu and that the United States of America was trying to remove Netanyahu from power and replace him with a moderate who would stop bombing Gaza because the Muslim vote in America has turned sharply against Genocide Joe.
	And I mentioned that I did not have confirmation of that yesterday, but that's what I was being told.
	Well, today we have confirmation.
	So here we go.
	Here's a story from Great Game India.
	Israel accuses Biden of attempting to topple Netanyahu.
	So Channel 12 out of Israel has reported that the most senior Israeli political source has accused Biden of attempting to topple Netanyahu after the latest U.S.
	intelligence assessment.
	So a very senior Israeli official retaliated on Tuesday against a U.S.
	intelligence assessment that was released overnight.
	Then raised concerns about Netanyahu and how they're handling the war against Gaza.
	The official read the intelligence assessment as an attempt to remove Netanyahu from office and declared, quote, those who elect the Prime Minister of Israel are the citizens of Israel and no one else.
	Israel is not a protectorate of the US, but an independent and democratic country whose citizens are the ones who elect the government.
	Oh, really?
	We're laughing, by the way.
	We're laughing that you think that.
	Actually, I think the United States of America is a protectorate of Israel.
	By the way, Israel controls America, not the other way around.
	But there are political consequences in America for Israel's genocide.
	Anyway, from this official out of Israel, he said, quote, we expect our friends, he's talking about Americans, to act to overthrow the terror regime of Hamas and not the elected government in Israel.
	You know, probably saying it very angrily and wagging his finger.
	Or perhaps wagging the dog.
	I'm not sure.
	One or the other.
	Something was getting wagged.
	Now, you may recall also from yesterday that one of the other pieces of information I received was that up to 100,000 US troops are being readied for deployment to the Middle East.
	Now, in the last 24 hours, I have not received additional confirmation of that point, but It is consistent with what we're seeing here, which is a confirmation that the U.S.
	deep state or the intelligence community is trying to overthrow Netanyahu.
	Once they overthrow Netanyahu, U.S.
	troops, it appears to me, will be put in place as a firebreak, as a way Well, kind of like, you know, in a nuclear power plant, these would be the control rods.
	U.S.
	troops would be attempting to be the control rods to put in there to stop the reaction from getting hotter.
	To try to stop Israel from attacking Gaza.
	Now, I have an even better idea that, well, I can't take credit for it.
	Actually, Scott Ritter said this again.
	Scott Ritter comes up with some real gems.
	And he said, That what the U.S.
	should do, and I actually agree with this, I think it's a great idea, is declare the skies over Gaza and the West Bank to be no-fly zones and start shooting down any Israeli military aircraft that fly over those zones.
	I think that's a great idea.
	So, just start shooting down Israel's military.
	And that way, they won't be able to drop bombs anymore, because we're shooting their planes out of the sky.
	But of course, they got those planes from us!
	America gave Israel those planes, so it's actually the perfect racket for the military-industrial complex.
	It's like, hey, let's build a bunch of planes, sell them to Israel, and then shoot them down, and then we'll build more planes, and sell those to Israel, or we'll just give them to Israel, and then we can shoot those down too!
	This is precisely the way the US system works, because it's always a racket.
	But in any case, it seems that these U.S.
	troops, again, up to 100,000, are going to be deployed around Israel.
	Maybe, I don't know how this is going to work, actually.
	And I don't even have confirmation that this is true yet.
	But if we were to imagine that 100,000 U.S.
	troops are being sent there, where would they be deployed?
	Well, obviously Gaza and the West Bank, some of them will probably end up in Egypt at the Suez Canal, right?
	They're going to protect the canal.
	And I don't know what's going to happen with Hezbollah or northern Israel.
	Will there be any U.S.
	troops there?
	If so, they're going to get killed by Hezbollah.
	So let's hope that, you know, cooler heads prevail here.
	So I don't know if this idea of using troops to try to de-escalate the situation actually has merit or not.
	It might end up doing the opposite.
	We'll see.
	I don't know.
	But as I said yesterday, if you're going to deploy 100,000 US troops there, you've got to make sure there's at least a couple of Burger Kings and some Taco Bells.
	And a bunch of soda machines, because, you know, most of the young soldiers are obese now.
	And, oh, they have to have air conditioning, because they're not really soldiers, they're just obese office workers wearing camo, for the most part, except for the special forces.
	They are soldiers, but your average day-to-day grunt in the military right now is an overweight, borderline diabetic, you know, woke, air-conditioned snowflake.
	They don't know what soldiering is.
	You know, compare that to our ancestors in World War II in the U.S.
	Army or in the U.S.
	Marines.
	The Army soldiers freezing their balls off and their toes off, by the way, in the artillery craters in the forests of Germany, the Battle of the Bulge.
	With no socks, no fire, no food, no ammo.
	With, you know, German panzer tanks headed your way.
	That was some soldiering right there.
	And somehow they made it through.
	And they were victorious.
	Or the U.S.
	Marines on Iwo Jima or all the other islands in the South Pacific that they stormed and they fought and they took.
	Man, America doesn't produce those kind of men anymore, does it?
	For the most part.
	We don't have those men anymore.
	And those were small men, by the way.
	They weren't big like we are today.
	They were much smaller than me.
	I mean, these guys were like, you know, five foot nine, they weighed 135 pounds, and they still carried, you know, basically M14s with, you know, 308 rounds, a couple hundred rounds and plus food and everything else.
	Some tough dudes.
	We don't have many tough dudes anymore.
	We have Drag Queen Storytime, and we have LGBTQ leaders in the military, and we have Drag Queen Space Force Colonels.
	But we don't have real men, hardly at all, in the military these days.
	The few ones who still are there are on the older side, that's for sure.
	Now there's plenty of retired real men who could still pick up a rifle and fight for America, and it may come to that, who knows, but the younger soldiers today?
	Pathetic.
	And idiotic, too.
	I actually feel sorry for the drill sergeants.
	At this point, I feel sorry for them, because how do you turn a woke moron into a soldier in boot camp?
	It's practically impossible.
	Because you get these recruits, I'm sorry to get off topic here, but you get these recruits who have no knowledge of reality.
	You get recruits who've never changed a car tire, never shot a rifle, never dug a hole with a shovel.
	Never dragged somebody else's body across a field to rescue them.
	Never did anything in their life.
	Never worked a machine.
	Never worked with their hands except on their phone.
	Blippity blip!
	Blippity blip!
	Oh, I'm popular!
	No, that's all they did.
	How do you train these people to be soldiers?
	They are pathetic!
	Poor drill sergeants, man.
	That's the hardest job in the world right now.
	So anyway, the coup against Netanyahu is real.
	Now here's another story about Boeing.
	This one also on Great Game India.
	And you know, we've been talking about Boeing in that undercover video that showed the Boeing employees at one of their manufacturing plants.
	The Al Jazeera video showed them talking about how they're smoking weed on the job and how they can buy crack there on the floor of the manufacturing facility.
	Was that, was it North Carolina?
	Or South Carolina, I forgot where that plant was.
	Well, here's a new story about Boeing.
	Not only are the wheels falling off and the doors falling off, and planes falling out of the sky.
	New headline, Boeing used Dawn liquid detergent as lubricant for 737 door seal.
	So, after a 737 MAX 9 door panel blew off during an early January Alaska Airlines flight, an investigation initiated by the Air Safety Regulator found that Boeing used Dawn liquid detergent as a lubricant for the door seal.
	The FAA discovered hundreds of issues with Boeing And one of its major suppliers' manufacturing processes during a six-week audit.
	Oh, here it is.
	Boeing whistleblower John Barnett was discovered dead in Charleston, South Carolina, where he was supposed to undergo the third day of his case deposition.
	Yeah, hmm.
	What are the odds of that?
	The story goes on to say that the level of employee comprehension of Boeing's quality control procedures was also investigated by the FAA.
	Six corporate engineers were interviewed by the agency, and after grading their answers, the average score was 58%.
	That's an F, by the way.
	That's a failing grade.
	At least in college, it would be.
	Corporate engineers don't even, they can't answer questions correctly about their own airplanes.
	Wow.
	So it turns out that other audits were failed here.
	This was Spirit Airlines, I believe is what they're talking about here.
	Spirit, yeah, said it failed the installation of cockpit windows.
	Gee, that couldn't be important when you're flying it.
	Almost 500 miles an hour.
	You think the cockpit windows are important?
	And by the way, it's not called a cockpit.
	I don't know why they don't know.
	It's a flight deck, folks.
	It's a flight deck, not a cockpit.
	And the other issue was the cargo door.
	So, hey, as long as you don't care whether the wheels stay on or The flight deck windshield stays on or the cargo door stays on.
	Boeing airplanes are awesome.
	Of course, the Boeing employees that were on that undercover video said they would not fly on Boeing jets because they they see the shoddy workmanship.
	Yeah.
	Because they're smoking crack and doing dope and playing with Dawn Liquid Soap Laundry Detergent, I guess?
	Like, that's an approved additive.
	Why Dawn?
	Why does it have to be Dawn Liquid Soap?
	Dishwasher soap?
	Don't they know that's overpriced crap with fragrance chemicals in it?
	Why can't they just buy generic?
	Just go down to the dollar store!
	Oh, wait.
	The dollar stores are closed now, too.
	Get yourself some dollar store dish soap.
	I mean, who's keeping track anyway?
	It's just a Boeing jet.
	Nobody gives a crap if anything works.
	Just squirt it with dollar store dish soap.
	All over the plane.
	Who cares?
	And here's a story out of Climate Depot.
	New York City coming after pizza ovens again, taking a slice out of iconic pizza shops with a new green rule.
	The Green Regulation is impacting over 100 New York City pizzerias.
	And there's a tweet about this.
	New York City proceeds with rule forcing wood-fired pizzerias to cut emissions by 75%.
	So... Attacks on food, folks!
	Attacks on food.
	Flashback from 2023.
	Mark Moreno in the New York Post.
	You'd have to burn a pizza stove for 849 years to equal one year of John Kerry's private jet.
	So, there you go.
	No wood-fired pizza for you in New York.
	Maybe you can barbecue each other like they do in Haiti, apparently.
	We also have a story about Haiti.
	But did you know that people are being threatened with being banned on X for talking about Haitian cannibalism?
	Apparently, that's being called hate speech now.
	You can't talk about the cannibals in Haiti, even though, reportedly, some of the gangs are eating the other gangs after they kill them.
	That's called cannibalism.
	But if you say it's cannibalism, well, that's hate speech.
	You're not allowed to say that.
	Or in some states in the U.S., if you say that Israel is committing genocide, that's now a crime, you know, thanks to Governor Kristi Noem.
	And probably more of that's coming soon.
	What are they going to do, throw people in jail for saying it's wrong to kill children with bombs?
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	You're going to go to jail.
	Alright, from Modernity.News, DoD preparing for a mass migration of Haitians into the U.S.
	The Pentagon is considering deploying naval vessels into the Straits of Florida.
	Now, by the way, not to block the migrants, but to bring them in.
	Basically, the Pentagon is gonna do a sea lift of a mass invasion wave of Haitians.
	Into the U.S., probably largely in Florida, to punish Governor DeSantis.
	This is war on conservative states.
	So from the story, Pentagon officials testified in Congress Tuesday that the Department of Defense is preparing for a mass influx of Haitians into the U.S.
	in the wake of the complete collapse of law and order in the Caribbean island state that, of course, Trump called a bleephole.
	Many years ago, it turns out, Trump was ahead of his time.
	So, Rebecca Zimmerman, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Global Security, which means, of course, she's probably a traitor to the U.S., trying to destroy the country.
	She says that the DoD is, quote, doing a number of things to ensure that we're keeping track of the situation.
	Yeah, they're gonna count the invaders, basically.
	At the moment, she says, we have not yet seen large numbers, what we would characterize as a maritime mass migration.
	But we are alert to that possibility.
	I think you're right that the driving conditions in Haiti could very well press more people.
	You think?
	Now Matt Bracken has been all over X talking about the machete gangs, the Haitian machete gangs that are going to be roving across America's cities, chopping people up for human jerky.
	And it's not even satire.
	It's a warning of things to come.
	Oh, by the way, one more headline to cover here before we get back to the theater of the mind news.
	This is from Information Liberation.
	Belgian nationalist has been sentenced to a year in prison over, quote, hateful memes shared in a private chat group.
	His name is Dries van Langenhove was sentenced to a year in prison on Tuesday.
	For being part of a private group, a chat group, seven years ago, where other people shared, quote, racist and anti-Semitic memes.
	He's been sentenced to a year in prison, a 16,000 euro fine, and 10 years of deprived civil rights, in which he is barred from politics.
	His crime?
	He was in a private chat group where offensive memes were posted.
	What?
	Seven years ago, this dude was in a chat group.
	What?
	And somebody else was posting, quote, racist memes or anti-Semitic memes, which could mean anything.
	It could mean it could be like somebody saying that Zionists are evil and that's it.
	And this guy didn't even say that himself.
	He was just in the group.
	Apparently, he's being sent to prison for a year.
	Are you kidding me?
	This is outrageous.
	And this is Europe now.
	This is what happens in Europe.
	You have no free speech in Europe.
	And apparently one of the memes that was shared in the group was a picture of Hitler with the following words.
	It says, you can't be racist if there's only one race.
	Well, that sounds exactly like the Zionists in 2024, by the way.
	They're trying to eliminate the other races around them so that they are the only remaining chosen ones, God's children, and they say it's not racist to bomb to death all the women and children.
	I mean, it's worth pointing that out.
	So this guy, Dries van Langenhove, I think I'm getting maybe close to how that's supposed to be pronounced, he says, I founded Schildernden, Belgium's biggest and most influential political youth movement in 2017.
	And he says, we allegedly had a Facebook group with 900 activists and a Discord chat with hundreds of users.
	And in one of the groups, someone said, post your edgiest meme.
	The edgy memes mentioned above were posted to the thread, a thread in which I did not participate.
	Now, seven years later, I am the leading nationalist activist in Belgium and the Netherlands, and I'm linked to the party that will win the coming elections in Belgium.
	The regime wants to shut us down, so they are using memes that were posted by others seven years ago to put me in prison.
	Yeah, sound familiar?
	This is exactly what's happening in the United States in other ways.
	The political persecution of people who are dissidents against the system.
	So, you know, a meme is a crime.
	Or under Governor Christie Noem, if you say the word Zionism, that's a crime.
	Now, too, you might go to jail also.
	It's sickening also, by the way, how many conservative GOP leaders in America are going along with all this insanity.
	All right, let's go to Dr. Sam Bailey.
	Viruses don't exist and why it matters.
	That's the article from Sam Bailey.
	I'm not going to read the whole thing, but let me give you some highlights of this.
	I think it is interesting.
	She says, we are now over four years into the COVID-19 fraud, and while many things have changed, confusion remains the dominant theme.
	Many people are coming to the realization that there was no pandemic.
	But there are also plenty of people ramping up bioweapons and gain-of-function narratives.
	Amongst this, we've also seen the introduction of new sidestepping argument that, quote, virus existence is not important.
	Well, I want to reply to Dr. Bailey here.
	Even if virology is a fraud, bioweapons and gain-of-function can still exist in the following way.
	Bioweapons, I think of the term bioweapons now, knowing what we've learned over the last four years, not as viruses, but as particles that can harm biology or that are generated in biology, such as the shedding phenomenon.
	So it doesn't even mean that viruses have to exist or function in the way that's traditionally ascribed to them.
	All it means is that there are weapons that attack biology or that use elements of biology, such as protein folding, for example, or attacking receptor sites.
	Weapons that use biology, and I would call those bioweapons.
	Which is different from chemical weapons in my mind because chemical weapons, the way I see it, tend to be very small molecules like VX nerve gas molecules, very tiny compared to a protein.
	A biological weapon can be a protein, not a virus.
	But a protein or a specific folding, specific receptors or I should say affinity to receptors in the body and gain-of-function research can be used to make those bioweapons more deadly or more effective even though they do not replicate.
	So I agree that the field of virology is steeped in fraud.
	But it doesn't mean that they didn't build a more effective weapon that targets biology or a bioweapon.
	I think they did.
	And I think they did do gain-of-function research in order to drop this bioweapon on New York City, by the way.
	So, continuing from Dr. Sam Bailey's article, in 2020, we started investigating the virus model and came to the realization that SARS-CoV-2 did not exist.
	In fact, there was no scientific evidence that any viruses existed, dating back to the late 1800s literature and the so-called tobacco mosaic virus.
	Those critiquing virology have pointed out that no entity that meets the description of a virus has ever been physically isolated.
	That's true, by the way.
	In order to maintain the illusion, the virologists have not performed properly controlled experiments such as those proposed in the Settling the Virus Debate Statement.
	Indeed, Dr. Stefan Lanka has shown that various indirect findings claimed as evidence for viruses are produced by the experimental methodologies themselves.
	And here, of course, we have to give a shout out to Dr. Thomas Cowan and Dr. Andrew Kaufman as well, both experts who have spoken about this extensively.
	And I did an interview with the creators of the film The End of COVID, who also talked about the same thing.
	She goes on and says that in 2022, Mark published a Farewell to Virology Expert Edition, a formal refutation of almost every aspect of the virus model.
	I'm going to actually review that.
	That should be quite interesting.
	As with other works that no virus proponents have produced, there has been no direct response to the overall thesis.
	Instead, we've only seen attempts to change the subject, cloud the established definitions of words, or introduce new unfalsifiable hypotheses.
	She goes on and concludes, the real-world human and animal experiments that set out to demonstrate contagious entities that cause diseases such as influenza and common colds were monumental flops.
	So, this is...
	Very interesting.
	And she even links to the end of COVID, by the way.
	That's theendofcovid.com.
	And some conversations with Dr. Thomas Cowan.
	And I admit that the first time I was introduced to some of this material, I was very skeptical of it.
	I could not believe it at first because, you know, I'd been We've been taught that viruses were real.
	We talk about viruses in common language and as if it's everybody knows that they exist and they're everywhere.
	Now you can't see them and you can't you can't really reproduce any experiments with them by the way it turns out and you can't isolate them and you can't see them under a microscope but we're supposed to believe they're there and most people do believe they're there and the fear of viruses is what's used to drive people to commit vaccine suicide.
	Interesting, isn't it?
	It's all illusion.
	But it took me a while to get to that realization.
	And a similar thing is happening with the Apollo missions.
	And that's why we're going to get to the interview with Bart Sabrell here shortly.
	But when I first heard Bart Sabrell talking about this idea that the Apollo moon missions were faked, I thought, that's crazy.
	I mean, that just sounds like crazy talk, like the Earth is flat or what have you.
	And then you actually get into the evidence and you find out that researchers now that BART is connected to have submitted the NASA photos and NASA videos to artificial intelligence Counterfeit image detection algorithms run by Google, by the way, and they've come back and said that the NASA photographs and films were indeed faked.
	So now the world's best AI is telling us that the moon landings were also faked.
	Fascinating, huh?
	And actually, if you if you look at it, if you just look at it, And if you understand things like shadows and light sources and so on, you realize, oh my gosh, these scenes were filmed in a studio.
	With a light source that's really, really close, not a distant sun.
	I mean, it's just basic physics, actually.
	If you believe that light mostly travels in a straight line, other than when it's affected by gravity wells and prisms and so on, but for the most part, light travels in a straight line.
	If you believe that, then you can't help but conclude that at least the images put out by NASA are faked.
	And so the deeper I dug into this, the more compelling it actually became.
	And then when you combine that with what you now know, what all of us now know about how the U.S.
	Empire is an empire of fakery and fraud, they faked everything about COVID and the pandemic.
	The money's fake.
	The news is fake.
	The elections are faked.
	The insurrection was faked.
	The attempted kidnapping of Governor Whitmer of Michigan, also faked, you know, staged by the FBI.
	Everything's faked.
	You realize, oh my god, 9-11, Oklahoma City, every narrative is faked.
	You realize they really are capable of faking the Apollo moon landings.
	And as Bart Sobrel explains, it's quite compelling to conclude that they did fake them.
	Now, granted, this process of coming to this realization It's a gradual process, even for very intelligent, open minded, curious people.
	We saw the same thing with COVID vaccines.
	I mean, how many prominent people today who are opposed to the vaccines, like Steve Kirsch, for example, actually took the vaccines at first?
	Well, lots of them.
	They took the vaccines.
	I don't know, did Ed Dowd take one of the first jabs?
	I don't recall, but a lot of prominent people took the first jab or the first two jabs, and then they kind of wised up to what was going on, and now they won't touch the jabs.
	There's a lot of people in that category.
	I never took the jabs.
	But by the way, in the early months of COVID, I was very alarmed by what I thought was a viral pandemic.
	And in retrospect, I was wrong about that too.
	And years ago, I even came out and said, you know, gosh, I was wrong about this.
	We were being subjected to the theater of the mind, psychological operations, all those leaked videos out of China of people like falling over dead, dying in 60 seconds.
	It's a PSYOP, man.
	It was pretty freaky at the time when we first saw those videos.
	I was definitely impacted by that.
	So the PSYOP kind of, you know, worked for a little while, but then We broke the spell.
	Because it is kind of a spell.
	It's a kind of sorcery with, you know, official government disinformation.
	But the Apollo landings are a kind of sorcery to try to convince you that America has, you know, dominance in space and that America, you know, planted a flag on the moon and therefore claims the moon as its domain.
	You do know that there are lots of military reasons for that.
	It was to try to intimidate Russia, not so much China at the time, but definitely Russia, the Soviet Union, and also try to claim the moon as U.S.
	property, by the way.
	And you got to ask, if we sent men to the moon as early as the late 1960s and throughout the early 70s, why haven't we sent anybody back since then?
	How can that be?
	Because the technology still doesn't exist today to send a man or woman or even a transgender to the moon safely without them dying from radiation.
	Otherwise, China would have already done it.
	Or Russia would have already done it.
	Or America would have done it again.
	Nobody's done it.
	You know why?
	You know why?
	Because nobody's ever done it.
	There's never been a human being that has walked On the moon.
	It's theater for your mind.
	It's a psychological operation.
	That's what Bart Sabrell is presenting here in this, I think, a very convincing interview.
	And as Bart mentions here, this is the key to everything.
	Recognizing that the U.S.
	government faked the Apollo moon landings, It breaks the spell of lies that the U.S.
	Empire has been built on.
	Shows that the U.S.
	government lied to its own people, presented these astronauts as heroes when they were actually actors.
	I mean, talk about crisis actors.
	This is at a whole new level.
	That the U.S.
	government is a giant lie and continues to be operating as a giant lie to this day.
	Even, of course, about January 6th, the insurrection, the 2020 election, you know, gold in Fort Knox.
	Lie after lie after lie.
	The U.S. Empire is an empire of lies.
	And I think, in fact, I think Medvedev said that sometime in the last year as well with the same observation.
	And, you know, one of these days, the truth is going to come out and be recognized.
	And there's going to be hundreds of millions of Americans who are absolutely astonished to learn that they've been living in a nation of total lies and.
	And probably that day is going to come when the dollar collapses and it's probably not that far away.
	The whole system is on the verge of collapse.
	The United States of America as we know it is not the country you think it is.
	It's not a bastion of freedom.
	It's not a democracy.
	It's not a place of truth and justice for all.
	It's none of that.
	Everything that you said in the Pledge of Allegiance, that was all a lie actually.
	None of that's true in America today.
	I wish it were.
	I love the idea of America that I was taught to believe.
	And I've fought for the ideals of America and its founding fathers all these years, but I've come to learn that we've been lied to at a depth that goes so far beyond what I ever could have imagined.
	It's like peeling back the matrix and realizing that you're not even living in the real world.
	You've been living in a dream world, Neo.
	And you've been enslaved inside a prison for your mind.
	And that prison is these narratives, these fake stories that you're told all the time, like, oh, be afraid of the COVID virus.
	Oh, the vaccine is going to save you.
	Oh, America sent men to the moon in the 1970s when the technology didn't even exist.
	These are all fake narratives.
	Oh, yeah, and America's winning the war against Russia.
	And America is the rules-based order.
	America brings stability to the world.
	No, it doesn't.
	America terrorizes the world.
	America, as it has been run, is the evil demon terrorizing the world.
	And now, of course, terrorizing its own people.
	So we're going to go to the interview with Bart Sabrell and you'll hear it in his own words and see some of his videos and then you can make up your own mind.
	And you don't have to peel back all the layers all at once because that would be psychologically very disruptive.
	You can jump in and believe as much as you want to believe on your own timetable or reject it if you want.
	It's completely up to you.
	I will add this.
	It's kind of become my slogan, we are building the infrastructure of human freedom, thanks to your support.
	We're making great progress on our AI language model.
	Amazing progress over the last few days, by the way.
	And we're building this infrastructure with honesty, ethics, morality, and truth.
	You may or may not agree with everything that we say, or everything that I believe, and that's okay.
	You will know That I'm always operating with what I believe to be honesty, ethics, morality, and truth.
	I'm doing what I believe is good for humanity and good for the survival of the human race.
	And to survive We have to reveal the truth about who we are, where we came from, the real history, who's been in control of our planet, the non-human origins of the control grid, and why they're trying to exterminate us right now.
	Only by revealing all of that will we ever be free.
	And we also have to expose the myths, the falsehoods that we've been taught because we have to deprogram ourselves from all the brainwashing and the indoctrination that we've been subjected to our entire lives.
	That's why this interview with Bart Sobrel is so important, whether you agree with it or not.
	That's why it's also important to question the whole theory of virology, whether you agree with it or not.
	That's a narrative that has been used to push depopulation and extermination of the human race.
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	And yes, despite the topics today, I am a man of science.
	I own a science lab with multiple mass spec instruments.
	I'm a published scientist.
	I use science to answer important questions about food contamination or food safety.
	But in doing that, I also continue to ask questions about all the realms of science, you know, space, medicine, virology, you know, physics, you name it, energy, all of it.
	That's what makes you a true scientist, by the way, the willingness to continue to ask questions even in the face of being labeled a conspiracy theorist or denounced by the establishment that have reached, quote, consensus because they've silenced everybody with whom they disagree.
	A real person of science, man of science, woman of science, is someone who's always willing to ask questions and keep an open mind, even when being presented with information that at first seems outrageous.
	But the true scientific mind will still consider it and look at the evidence and then make a decision based on reality rather than consensus.
	So enjoy this interview with Bart Sabrell, and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	Take care.
	Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	And one of the interesting things that's happened since COVID is that more and more people are questioning official narratives, even retroactively.
	They're looking back in history and saying, well, wait a minute, if we were lied to about COVID and lied to about its origins, and we were lied to about the effectiveness and the safety of the vaccines and the effectiveness of masks and lockdowns and social isolation and all these things, well, what else were we lied to about?
	And our guest today has been persistently stating for many years that we've been lied to about the moon landings, the Apollo moon landings in particular, but other elements as well.
	His name is Bart Sabrell.
	His website is sabrell.com.
	That's S-I-B-R-E-L dot com.
	Let me bring it up for you here.
	And one of his top books is called Moon Man by Bart Sabrell.
	I have interviewed Bart previously.
	We bring him back today.
	To ask new questions about what he says are the staged, faked moon landings.
	So welcome, Bart, back to the show.
	A little tongue twister there, I apologize.
	Too many B's there, Mike.
	How are you?
	Welcome back.
	Yeah, it's great to have you back on the show.
	Thank you!
	Alright, so let's, for people who aren't familiar with you and your work and Moonman, and I want to set the frame here, you're not saying that the Earth is flat, you're not saying that they haven't sent probes to the Moon, you're saying that the manned missions to the Moon were faked, is that correct?
	Yes, absolutely.
	There's a significant difference because of radiation.
	For example, you could x-ray a toaster a thousand times, it'll still make toast for you.
	You x-ray a person a thousand times, you're going to get in trouble.
	So, this book that you referred to is interactive.
	As far as I know, it's the first video interactive book and all those links you can see for free at Sibrel.com.
	Basically, I write a chapter And then there's a video, another chapter video, to back up everything I'm saying.
	And what you're talking about, or we're talking about, the radiation.
	One of the clips there is Kelly Smith, an engineer at NASA.
	But he's in his 20s, you see.
	And so he's a little, maybe, pure in nature, maybe the most.
	And he talks about them sending unmanned probes Through a field of radiation, which he refers to as dangerous, meaning deadly to humans.
	And then he says that this radiation belt, to go through it to the moon and back and survive, that the technology to do so has yet to be invented.
	This is pretty serious, isn't it?
	Most people don't know this.
	This radiation belt doesn't start until 1,000 miles up, and most missions are around 250 miles.
	And then it's 30,000 miles thick.
	Oh, wow.
	OK, so they're going to spend a lot of time in that radiation belt.
	But let me back up and say, this means that you can have astronauts in an orbiting space station, and they're not being subjected to that radiation belt that you're referring to, correct?
	Yeah, they're 750 miles below it.
	The only time humans are said to have gone through it was to the moon and back.
	And if we could drive cars and play golf on the moon with 1960s technology, then why are we only able to send mannequins through the radiation belt 54 years later.
	I mean, NASA is saying on camera, one of their employees, one of their engineers, the technology to survive going through the radiation to the moon and back for a human being has not been invented yet.
	You understand?
	And so the first point that you brought up is this is opening people's eyes.
	They see the lies in COVID.
	And so what I want to remind people of is kind of tag on to that thought, Mike, which is Robert Kennedy Jr.
	Okay, he has more access to the JFK files than Oliver Stone does.
	And if it's his opinion, with 100% certainty, that the CIA murdered their own duly elected president, and then we have Robert McNamara, former Defense Secretary, Who said that the whole start of the Vietnam War was completely contrived by an imaginary event called the Gulf of Tonkin incident, that Congress passed a law because of a CIA fabrication which led to the death
	of three million people and fifty eight thousand two hundred twenty of their own citizens.
	So if they're willing to kill their own president, if they're willing to kill fifty eight thousand two hundred twenty of their own people, I don't think they have a problem faking an image of the moon on a TV screen.
	And so for the first time in history, we have greater technology in the past than in the future.
	But that's impossible historically and scientifically.
	I mean, microprocessors barely existed back then.
	I mean, you know, a person's typical iPhone today is probably a million times more computational power than what was even available back then for the Moon lander at any That's the best estimate.
	If you took all the computers in 1969, this is before microwaves, before cell phones were known, took all the computing power and all the computers at NASA when they allegedly went to the moon, that's one millionth the computing power of a cell phone.
	So what they're claiming is in 1969, with one millionth the computing power of a cell phone, they went a thousand times farther Then they can go today with 50 year better rockets and computers because the farthest that they can send a human into orbit today with five decades better technology is only 1,000th the distance to the moon.
	You see what I'm saying?
	If we could go to the moon on the first attempt, we would have been on Mars 10 years later and there'd be bases all over the moon by now.
	You see, we'd be in another solar system by now.
	Yeah, okay.
	Really good point.
	I don't understand that.
	What I want to mention about your website, by the way, is that you really lay out a lot of compelling evidence, photographic evidence, video evidence.
	And when you mentioned earlier they were playing golf on the moon, you're exactly right.
	I saw that in some of your videos.
	The astronauts were bragging about that.
	I want to show a little clip here that was making the rounds recently, and it's called the Apollo 17 liftoff from the moon.
	December 14, 1972.
	So I'm going to hit play on this.
	It's only about 30 seconds, but folks, watch as this liftoff happens and ask yourself, who's the cameraman?
	Because the cameraman zooms back and then pans up kind of clumsily, pans up, And so someone is controlling the zoom and pan in order to film this, and I'm thinking, like, I'm the cameraman, come back for me!
	Hey guys, where you going?
	Where you going?
	You know, it's like... Actually, there's, if I may... Yeah, go ahead.
	There's a better point than that one.
	You know, they had it remotely controlled, allegedly, but that's not really the issue.
	And in fact, you and I will understand this even better.
	There's a delay from the Earth to the Moon though, I mean...
	Exactly.
	We'll tell the audience, before you and I started this conversation, we were having a lag and a delay on the internet.
	I would say something and then my video would be lagged behind.
	Just watch CNN talk to a person in Iraq, unless they're in the next studio.
	If they're really in Iraq, they go like, and how's it looking there?
	Right, exactly.
	It's a long delay.
	It's looking fine here, and that's just going halfway around the world.
	So the issue with that video is actually, with the delay, not only at least two seconds there and two seconds back, it's going through all that analog equipment.
	Today it's digital, and there's still almost a four second delay between asking the question and the answer.
	So how could they, with that delay, if you want to show the clip again, the camera perfectly followed The lunar module up, you understand?
	Yeah, I'll show it again.
	But what is, what's the delay supposed to be?
	How can they pan exactly with it, with the delay, unless they're there, you know, in the studio?
	Go ahead and show my screen.
	Yeah.
	Here it is.
	Okay, wait.
	Let me back it up.
	Here it is.
	Okay, yeah, exactly.
	If they were controlling this from Houston to the moon, there's no way they could track it.
	Yeah, and here's another point, and I'm sure it's in your notes, so I'm going to jump ahead because it ties in.
	About four months ago, there was an international conference of AI, just like they have automobile conferences and shoe conferences or whatever your business is.
	And just like at the automobile conference, they have the car that goes 150 miles an hour and they'll let you drive around the track.
	That never makes it to the market somehow.
	And so they had the most advanced AI there.
	And the most advanced AI in the world is actually a network of multiple AIs.
	It's called Google's neural network.
	Millions of dollars.
	You know, tens of years to develop this.
	It's the latest and greatest AI and it has in it a deep fake detection protocol.
	And you can feed it a video of Trump or Biden.
	It can tell you in one second whether or not this is really Trump or computer simulation of him.
	It has never been wrong.
	So one team, you know, they let you play around with it for three days.
	So one team had it write a symphony, another team had it compose a novel, and another team fed it pictures from unmanned probes from China of the lunar surface a few years ago through the DeepFake protocol program.
	And it said, They're real.
	And then, in comparison, which was the true genius of the experiment, they fed it pictures of the Apollo mission.
	And it instantly said they're fake.
	All of them are fake for multiple reasons.
	In fact, like that video we just showed, they had one image of an astronaut and the computer said it's not even an astronaut, it's a miniature.
	Of an astronaut.
	It said fake background, fake foreground.
	It's not a person.
	It's a miniature.
	It even knew that the footprints, which they did like on a stick with a foot boot, you know, like this, this, this, and this on the set.
	It said a human doesn't walk that way.
	These are irregular footsteps.
	No human would walk that way.
	And so this story should be on every news station in the world.
	And get this, Mike, I got the Russian translation of it, I copied it, and when I went back, because I'm making a video about it, I wanted to prepare, and that's on the homepage of Sibrel.com, this new AI discovery.
	The link was gone, there's nothing there.
	So then I asked the guy, where's the original Russian link?
	And Google Translate wouldn't translate.
	It would translate the script from Gillian's Island into Russian or Russian to English, but it wouldn't translate the article.
	Then I found the super original one before that one, and I clicked on it and it says, if you proceed, All the data on your computer will be stolen and you'll be associated with child pornography.
	This is how desperate they are, because this is alarming.
	I think this is the finger out of the dike, Mike, because you could say the god of the world and achievements.
	The greatest achievement of mankind is, of course, if it were real, putting a man on the moon.
	And then the messiah of science, if you want to call it that, is AI.
	So a lot of intellectuals who previously thought the moon missions are real, AI, the most intelligent entity in the world, said the Chinese probe pictures on the surface are real, and the Apollo missions on the surface are completely fake in a TV studio.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Don't put your finger back in the dike anymore about that.
	Okay, hold on Bart.
	You've got a video on your website that I want to play.
	It's a three minute moon fraud in three minutes video.
	I want to play that for the audience.
	This is just a three minute overview of some of the highlights of why the moon landings, the Apollo moon landings, with human beings were faked and it also helps answer the question like why hasn't america sent people back to the moon why hasn't russia put people on the moon why hasn't china or india put people on the moon or the eu because it's not possible for them to survive the journey that's why but take a look at this three minute video folks and then we'll continue
	some people say it's hard to believe that the moon landings were fake i say it's hard to believe that they were real What NASA is claiming is that they went 1,000 times farther than they can go today with 50-year-older technology on the very first attempt with one millionth the computing power in all of NASA than is in a cell phone.
	All the proof that you need that the moon landings are fake is in this one picture.
	In sunlight, shadows will always run parallel with one another.
	This is because the sun is about a million times bigger than the earth and it casts shadows in the same direction over an entire continent.
	So you'll see in sunlight, shadows always run parallel and never intersect.
	Here's a picture which the federal government claims was taken on the moon.
	The astronaut's shadow runs at 12 o'clock, and this rock, only about 5 feet away, the shadow runs at 9 o'clock.
	This is a 90 degree difference from objects 5 feet apart from one another.
	This proves that this was taken on Earth with an electrical light inside of a television studio.
	This is all the proof that you need that the moon landings were fake.
	If Toyota said that they made a car 50 years ago that could go 50,000 miles on a gallon of gasoline, and yet today their best car could only go 50 miles per gallon or 1,000th the distance, wouldn't the fraud of the previous claim be obvious?
	And yet this is exactly the moon landing fraud, and yet people don't see it because of their emotional attachment to it.
	They're claiming they went a thousand times farther 50 years ago than they can go today with 50 year older technology.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	It's the only time in history that a technological achievement like the automobile or the airplane or nuclear power that no nation on earth could repeat it 50 years later.
	When in fact it should be a hundred times greater 50 years later.
	If they could go to the moon with 1960s technology, men would be in another solar system by now.
	Men would have walked on Mars 10 years later, 40 years ago, which never happened.
	And there would be bases on the moon there today, of which there are none.
	It's the only time in the history of the world that technology that cost $175 billion was deliberately destroyed afterwards.
	Would Bill Gates spend $175 billion to make the first computer, and then when he was done, throw it and the schematics in the trash?
	But that's what NASA claims that they did.
	They only did that to destroy the evidence of the fraud, which is proof itself that they didn't go, because if they really went, they would never destroy the technology.
	The B-52 bomber was made 70 years ago and is still in service today in the United States Air Force because it worked so well.
	Now they want to return to the moon and they're having to recreate all that equipment from scratch because they deliberately destroyed it in order to hide the evidence of the fraud.
	I say it's harder to believe that the moon landings are real than to believe that they were fake.
	And this one picture proves that it was taken inside of a television studio on Earth.
	All right, really fascinating there, Bart.
	Thank you for that three minute intro.
	But one of the most compelling pieces of evidence that you gave to me, that I learned from our previous interviews, was about the rovers on the moon.
	Not only is it a total clown show joke that they could even function with all that moon dust and everything, but And correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that they kept sort of replacing, like the parts kept changing on them in other missions.
	Is that, am I remembering that correctly?
	What's the story?
	Well, there's a lot of hearsay about what's going on and confusion.
	I think that's kind of deliberate from NASA.
	The main thing about the Moon rover that I bring up is, okay, so your only life support is your backpack with a limited supply of oxygen and then the lunar module.
	Would you really drive miles away and then, if the car broke down, have to walk back and run out of oxygen before you get there?
	Probably not.
	I don't think they would do such a thing.
	You know, in today's dollars, those things cost $100 million, and they had about one-tenth the parts of a Jeep.
	So I'm not sure why they cost $100 million each.
	We'll have to ask NASA about that one.
	The whole thing was a cash cow.
	It's basically a front.
	I used to go to this fried chicken place in Nashville that never had anybody in there.
	But there's a woman sitting there taking call after call on a 20 line telephone.
	You know, I think it was a numbers racket.
	And so this is a front, just like the CIA has front businesses for their operations.
	This is just a front.
	It's a cash cow.
	The different thing about the moon landing fraud, for example, whoever shot JFK, he's still dead.
	It's just a matter of who did it and why.
	Or 9-11.
	Those people are still dead.
	It's just a matter of who did it and why.
	This is different.
	This is a positive lie.
	You see?
	It's really the only positive conspiracy, you could say.
	And people wanted to believe it.
	It has become a god to people.
	And people are offended.
	I talked to a professor of an aerospace university.
	I showed him all this proof.
	He said, Bart, there's nothing you could ever say that would make me recant the glorious moon landings.
	And I said, well, what about this?
	But if you saw an astronaut go on national television and tearfully confess that the moon missions were faked, then please forgive him.
	And the professor said that he would still think he walked on the moon anyway.
	Wow.
	Well, let's talk about the reasons.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But you're right.
	This mythos of the Apollo moon landings has become interwoven into the fabric of America's consciousness.
	But there are very specific strategic reasons for this that have a lot to do with the former Soviet Union, for example.
	For example, the projection of American dominance in space, trying to intimidate Russia.
	And I can't help but point out the parallels with today's propaganda with the Ukraine war.
	You know, here we have America's propaganda machine constantly claiming Russia is losing, constantly claiming Russia's troops are demoralized, and we're just on the verge of kicking Russia's butt if we just had 60 more billion dollars in this case, and none of it's true!
	None of it's true.
	Russia's outproducing.
	Russia has more industrial output.
	Russia has better hypersonic missiles.
	I mean, the U.S.
	doesn't even have functioning hypersonic missiles at all.
	That's an embarrassment.
	If you went to the moon, and then how many decades later, you still can't make a hypersonic missile that works in combat?
	Come on.
	Russia's got hypersonic missiles.
	Russia is just so far ahead of the U.S.
	in terms of its technology And it's electromagnetic warfare capabilities, but the U.S.
	always relies on propaganda and just disinformation.
	So, looking back in history, you have to question the moon landings and say, was that part of a disinformation campaign?
	It seems like you're saying that you believe that's part of it.
	Yeah, definitely.
	There are multiple reasons, or you could say multiple benefits, for faking the moon landing.
	One thing to consider is really they just didn't have to do it.
	Kennedy set a goal that couldn't be achieved.
	And do you realize NASA has never kept a schedule, not a single time in their entire history, except The most complicated mission of all time that had never been tried before.
	That one, they were ahead of schedule.
	So they could have just said, well, we can't do it.
	You know, we're going to need more time or maybe we need cooperation with Russia in order to combine our talents.
	But they did it anyway.
	And you may remember when Clinton president was finally admitted that he had an affair and they said, well, why did you do it?
	He said, because I could, meaning because I could get away with it.
	And this is the sheer arrogance of this.
	And so for people who are really interested in bringing down the corrupt federal government, the moon landing fraud is the key.
	It's the linchpin.
	Because I get emails all the time or reviews of my book that say, if the truth comes out about the moon landing fraud, The American public will never trust them again.
	And so, when I first found it, of course, this footage I'm about to describe, you can see it for free on the homepage of Sobrelle.com.
	I uncovered classified footage of them faking being halfway to the moon right in front of your eyes.
	Oh, I saw that.
	That was mind-blowing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	It blew my mind.
	I grew up as the biggest fan of the space program.
	And when I heard it might be fake, I had an open mind, but I thought they probably went.
	And then the more I looked into it, the stranger it became.
	And even though there was all this evidence, I still said, well, I need something a little more concrete.
	And I have a guy who's a multi-millionaire who builds rockets for NASA, who knows it was fake, gave me a million dollars to produce my film, which is for free on the home page of Sobrel.com, that has this footage in it.
	So this film took seven years to make, 4,000 hours of editing, just to edit a 45-minute film.
	And I'm almost done.
	I pop in a tape.
	It says, don't show to the public.
	I'm like, oh, this should be good.
	I hit fast forward, because as an editor, I can see things faster.
	And I see the same shot over and over and over again for like 10, 20, 30 minutes.
	I'm like, oh, this is unedited footage, which they never gave me any.
	And it's the crew faking being halfway to the moon with the one foot model of the Earth dated two days into the flight.
	And Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Michael Collins are on camera doing it.
	And there's a third track of audio of the CIA prompting them to fake a four second radio delay to not give away they're still in Earth orbit.
	That's the video where at the end like the lights come on inside the capsule that shows that it was just a set.
	Exactly.
	I have the unedited version.
	The segment that they use, they use this exact segment in all of their reels that claim this is halfway to the moon.
	It's so fake.
	Even the earth through the window is not even real either.
	It's so fake.
	Exactly.
	And even my greatest critic says that is them faking being halfway to the moon.
	They have to admit it.
	So here's the point, Mike.
	I show this, you know, freaking out to the news director at NBC.
	The guy turns pale white, falls back in his chair, puts his hand over his mouth and says, oh my gosh, they really didn't go to the moon.
	This proves it beyond any doubt.
	Then I say, What are we going to do about it?
	And he thanks and thanks and he thanks and then he says, I will not air this.
	It will cause a civil war.
	I will not be responsible for being the man who caused the second American Civil War.
	Do you see this?
	So, but I didn't I didn't agree with that assessment at the time.
	I've started to change my mind only a few weeks ago because I got that review of my book, and they said this, if it comes out, the American public will never trust them again.
	It will outrage them.
	It was an unnecessary lie.
	And as you know, in my book, They murdered people to cover it up, and that's not my opinion.
	That's the opinion of Betty Grissom and Scott Grissom, the wife and son of an Apollo astronaut who was going to be the first man to walk on the moon.
	He was a whistleblower to the point he held an impromptu press conference without permission because he did report after report after report, submitted it to the Pentagon.
	A decade away from going, not a couple of years.
	They did nothing about it.
	He's infuriated.
	Without permission, he takes all these reporters to the top of the rocket and takes a lemon the size of a grapefruit and puts it on the rocket door.
	Says this thing is a piece of junk.
	It infuriated the Pentagon.
	His wife told me.
	I interviewed her for four hours, okay, Mike?
	She asked me not to put this information in my film until she died.
	That's why it's in the book, among many other new revelations, which we'll get into.
	She said that on January 26, 1967, her husband came home from work and said this, Hon, for some strange reason, the CIA is all over the launch pad today.
	I wonder why they're there.
	I've never seen the CIA here a single day in all these years.
	Why are they here today?
	The very next day, after the Lemon incident, he's killed by faulty equipment.
	Okay?
	It's her opinion that he was killed by the CIA.
	So it's one thing, Mike, if they faked The moon landing and never killed anybody.
	Maybe it's the devious part of me.
	I kind of respect their ingenuity, right?
	But not if they kill people and widow wives and orphan children.
	And what's the first document of our country?
	It's not the Constitution.
	It's the Declaration of Independence.
	And it says when any nation becomes destructive, Of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
	We have it in writing.
	Legally, we can get rid of the federal government without a war.
	We just decree it.
	And because what's the first one?
	Life.
	They're murdering their own people.
	They murdered their astronaut because he wouldn't cooperate with the moon landing project.
	That's not my opinion.
	That's the opinion of his widow.
	She told me so.
	Let's talk about the astronauts, though.
	So for the astronauts that weren't killed, then your assertion is that then the astronauts that were part of the faked moon landings, then they had to just play the role of the astronaut hero for the remainder of their lives, pretending like they walked on the moon and furthering the lie.
	And of course, that's easy because you're considered a national hero.
	You know, everybody You know, praises your, quote, achievements.
	But I think NASA stands for not a single achievement.
	Actually, by the way, that's what the acronym means.
	Or never a straight answer.
	Yeah, never a straight answer.
	But what's your take on these?
	I know you confronted one astronaut at one point who was very unhappy about your questions.
	Well, actually, I confronted eight of them because we had a million dollars a rocket builder, you know, for NASA backing us because he thought it was his patriotic duty.
	He just wants to remain anonymous.
	So his stock didn't go down.
	But in any case, he gave us his money to investigate this.
	So my follow up film is called Astronauts Gone Wild, which was really titled after the filming of it.
	I just thought, I guess, from childhood, Courtroom drama, as I saw on TV.
	Why not track these guys down and have them swear on the Bible?
	Some wouldn't give interviews.
	The some that did charged $2,000 an hour in cash, which we paid them.
	And then I showed them this footage we uncovered of them faking being halfway to the moon.
	And one, of course, infamously punches me.
	Another one threatens to shoot me.
	Another one threatens to punch me.
	And in one instance, An astronaut literally kicks me from behind after I show him the footage and he turns me red, get out of my house.
	Well, in all that commotion, Mike, I leave a high-quality wireless microphone on him.
	And in all the commotion, my camera operator is so freaked out I'm being assaulted, he forgets to hit stop record on the camera.
	So while the beta cam is in the back of the rental car in the guy's driveway, We're recording the audio of his private conversation in his house with his son.
	Wow.
	And I drive away, and it works for like half a mile, you know what I mean?
	And I'm driving away, recording the conversation the entire time, and I'm like, oh, I forgot my, you know, $700 microphone.
	Let me go back and get it.
	I go back and get it, and then the film secretary did transcripts of all these interviews.
	There's, you know, eight confrontations with Apollo astronauts and astronauts gone wild.
	And three months later, she calls me up frantic, Bart, Bart, do you know what they're talking about, you know, privately, before you went back and got your mic?
	I'm like, I don't know what.
	She says, they're talking about calling the CIA to have you killed.
	And I'm like, that's pretty funny.
	She says, no, Bart, they're talking about calling the CIA to have you killed.
	And I'm like, that's pretty funny.
	She says, Bart, you're not hearing me.
	They're talking about calling the CIA to have you killed, and they are.
	Do you want to call the CIA and have them whacked?
	First of all, why does an Apollo astronaut's civilian mission have the CIA in its rolodex?
	Exactly.
	Why would you kill a journalist who's asking questions?
	Exactly.
	If I'm some silly person who thinks it was done in a TV studio or Air Force Base, and they really went, why would they care?
	Why would the CIA be involved?
	You understand?
	Right.
	So the fact that the CIA is involved in killing me means I'm right.
	You know?
	Yeah, clearly.
	And that's just the way that it is.
	Okay, another question, Bart.
	Kind of shifting gears, but that's fascinating.
	Astronauts gone wild.
	Back in the late 60s and early 70s when these Apollo missions were happening, people did not have computers, personal computers.
	People did not have advanced AI analysis systems.
	And it was people actually had really crappy TVs.
	You couldn't really see that clearly what was going on.
	So it was kind of technically easy to fake because the average person is like, oh, well, my TV's got horrible reception and it was kind of static.
	It kind of looks like the moon.
	It's all good.
	But today, with all the scrutiny and all the computational power that's in the hands of citizens and AI, as you already mentioned, It's pretty easy to look back at the films from the Apollo missions, the official NASA films and recordings, and it looks like a Saturday Night Live skit.
	Well, the interesting thing about that, Mike, is they destroyed the originals.
	Here's what happened.
	So, Ron Howard's grandfather warned him the moon missions were fake, but he grew up in the time of the Apollo, had a Saturn V rocket toy, just like I did.
	His grandfather said, they didn't go, he didn't listen.
	So, in his zeal, he's like executive producer for this IMAX Apollo movie, came out, you know, 20 years ago.
	And, of course, this is like 100 feet by 120 feet.
	And he wants the originals.
	He wants to transfer them to HD.
	He goes to NASA, says, we want the originals.
	They say, give us a few days.
	They get back with them three days later, and they said everything is missing.
	All the originals are gone, some we just can't find, and others we accidentally recorded over.
	I guess a I Love Lucy episode.
	Over the greatest episode of all time.
	They deliberately destroyed the equipment.
	One of the clips at Sobrelle.com of my interactive book, which I read on audio, Kindle, or print, Is NASA's own engineer saying they intentionally destroyed all the technology that they used to go to the moon?
	All the blueprints, all the schematics, all the telemetry as to the rocket, where it was, all the original videotapes.
	Now, if you really went to the moon, And spend an equivalent of $200 billion on this technology.
	The last thing in the world you would do is destroy it.
	But that's exactly what they did.
	Now if you perpetrated a fraud, you would destroy everything.
	So the fact that they destroyed everything is proof of the fraud.
	Just like Oswald's, you know, being killed before trial is proof of conspiracy right there.
	You see what I'm saying?
	And so, there are no originals.
	That's the amazing thing.
	And they destroyed them.
	In fact, if you can find a print from, you know, 6970 of Apollo 11, the soil is caramel brown.
	And the soil color in the Chinese probes is caramel brown, because that's the soil color of the moon.
	It just looks gray from the bright light looking at it from Earth.
	So, in the original pictures, the soil is brown, but the background is a grayish blue.
	Gives away the fake background pretty easily.
	Right.
	So they've color corrected all of them to now the ground is gray, grayish blue, and the background is grayish blue.
	But there's so much evidence that they didn't go to the moon, like in the three-minute video Shadows Intersecting.
	That would prove it in a court of law.
	The classified footage of them faking being halfway to the moon.
	The NBC News director says it proves they didn't go to the moon.
	My Greatest Critic says it's them faking being, you know, part of the mission.
	Why would any of it be fake if they really went?
	Then we have the fact that you can have a thousand times greater space-traveling technology in the past and in the future.
	That's never happened in the history of the world.
	Just ten years after the first atomic bomb, they were one thousand times more powerful.
	Think how far we should be in the universe by now if we really went to the moon with 1960s technology.
	And then lastly, Revealed in my book for the very first time, we have an eyewitness who eyewitnessed and filmed the fake moon landing at Cannon Air Force Base as he stood beside President Johnson, June 1st, 2nd, and 3rd of 1968.
	In fact, as the guy is dying, fearing the judgment of God.
	This is the deathbed confession video, right?
	That's right.
	And a deathbed confession is like double the power in court.
	I mean, if I saw somebody shoot somebody in a 7-11, that's pretty damaging testimony.
	But if I say something as I'm dying, courts consider that doubly powerful.
	So the first thing out of the guy's mouth while he's dying is, he wanted to confess that he killed somebody.
	And then his son says, well, who did you kill?
	And he said, I killed a coworker at Cannon Air Force Base.
	His son says he was chief of security and chief of security at the Air Force's intelligence base.
	All branches of the military have their CIA type division.
	And the CIA type division of the United States Air Force is at Cannon Air Force Base in Clovis, New Mexico.
	And his son is so alarmed, he figures the family of this person he killed deserves to have closure.
	So they bring in the military police, and he's there while the military police are interviewing his father about who he killed.
	And then they ask him why.
	Why did you kill a co-worker at Cannon Air Force Base?
	He says, well, it was my job.
	We eyewitnessed Apollo 11 being filmed at Cannon Air Force Base, June 1st, 2nd and 3rd, 1968, one year in advance.
	And we were told if we tell anybody, they'll kill us and our family.
	My co-worker came to me privately.
	He said this is morally wrong and he was going to go to a reporter and tell somebody and that he killed them to cover up the moon landing fraud.
	It's not something you make up as you're dying, don't you think, Mike?
	No, exactly.
	That's very powerful.
	And again, that video, I believe, is on your website, the Deathbed Confession.
	Yeah, I'm looking at it.
	Let me ask you a different question, though.
	This is all very powerful, but what about nations like Russia, China, Iran?
	Surely they are fully aware that America faked the Apollo landings.
	Oh, absolutely.
	But why don't they say it publicly?
	That's my question.
	Why don't they challenge the history of the American space program?
	It's actually a pretty simple answer.
	First, let me go ahead and be the opposition for one second.
	The two reasons they say the moon missions must be real.
	The first one is it involved hundreds of thousands of people.
	Well, keep in mind, the atomic bomb was the greatest secret during World War II.
	It involved 129,500 people and only eight It's called departmentalization.
	You really think like the bank teller at Wells Fargo and the CEO of Wells Fargo know equally about the corruption going on in the banking system?
	You have the flight director Eugene Kranz, who I talked to, he said That a controller in command center can tell no difference whatsoever between a simulation and a real flight.
	It's just a bunch of numbers going by on a screen.
	Well, right.
	And plus they built a lot of equipment and they did launch rockets.
	I mean.
	Oh, absolutely.
	They lifted off and people saw that.
	Right, right.
	instead of just staying in orbit. - Exactly. - And then the second reason why it must be real, according to critics, is the Russians and the Chinese would have squealed.
	Well, that's simply not the case.
	For example, if I had a picture of a world leader with a prostitute, I could upload it to the internet and bring them down, or I could blackmail them year after year after year after year.
	I have a friend, Mike, who works in the command center of the Chinese Space Agency.
	Okay?
	He told me that everybody there knows that the moon missions are fake and that China is blackmailing NASA for space technology to not give it away.
	If you go to Sorel.com, there's a video of Putin, who was at the AI conference, being showed the results.
	I look at his face.
	First of all, he's not surprised at all.
	And secondly, he looks scared, like there's some deal.
	If that comes out, his skeletons will come out, too.
	They're blackmailing us.
	And then the other people, like Japan, India, or whoever, You think they dare not cooperate with the United States?
	Just ask Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, or Noriega what happens when you don't cooperate with the United States of America.
	You see?
	Yes, but Bart, America's global dominance is rapidly collapsing.
	You know, BRICS nations are launching their own currency, de-dollarization is taking place, the U.S.
	military is failing in Ukraine, it's failing in the Red Sea.
	As the U.S.
	crumbles, which I would submit is happening, and the dollar crumbles, isn't there a point where the weakness of the U.S.
	is so great that One of these other countries eventually wants to pounce and expose the falsehoods that underpin the narrative of America?
	Yeah, that may happen.
	We have to keep in mind that probably this whole America versus Russia and China thing is probably just for show.
	Just like a fake wrestling match.
	They look like they're enemies, but they're really friends all on the same team.
	The New World Order means all the nations will be unified into one government.
	That means they need the cooperation of China and Russia to do that.
	They're probably already on board.
	China and the CIA are madly in love with one another.
	So they may look like an enemy to boost defense contracts, but they're really not.
	Now, it could be that they might intentionally release the truth that the moon landings are fake to crash the dollar, or to crash the stock market, or to discredit America.
	You know, New World Order, while it does mean Illuminati, Bilderberg Group and World Economic Forum and all that, it simply technically means a new number one, which means the number one economic military power has to come down from number one in order for there to be a New World Order, right?
	It's a new order of who's number one.
	What better way to do it than expose the moon landing fraud?
	So they could use that to their advantage.
	They could even create a disclosure party telling the truth about JFK 9-11 moon landing.
	I don't know.
	But the fact is they did fake the moon landing.
	It's not a theory.
	It's an absolute fact.
	I read something the other day from a famous female writer named, I think is Ellen White.
	She was referring to the Tower of Babel.
	However, it applies to the moon landing.
	Here's what she said.
	The monument of their pride became a memorial of their folly.
	And this is really folly, because this is the sheer arrogance of the federal government to deceive their people when they really had no need or reason to do it.
	And it's only gotten worse since then.
	First they killed their own president, then they faked the Vietnam War, then they faked the moon landing, and then we know about 9-11, this little thing we've been going through for three years, and who knows what's up their sleeve next.
	They have to be brought down or they're gonna kill us all.
	I mean, does anybody care that they're destructive?
	I'm sorry?
	You're absolutely correct on that point.
	In fact, I've interviewed, of course, many other experts on this show who submit that the COVID pandemic was also faked.
	That there is not a SARS-CoV-2 that spreads from one person to another and infects them, rather that they say there was a A biological weapon that was dropped on onto cities like New York City in order to create the fatalities and the panic that would push people into getting injected and it's the vaccines that are actually killing people now.
	I know that's not your area of focus or expertise, but I'm just pointing out That since the truth has never really been exposed about the moon landings, we are getting more and more theater.
	You know, we're living in a giant Truman Show at this point.
	It's all theater, even as you mentioned, maybe globally, it's theater to keep us enslaved and ignorant and under control.
	Well, you know, I wish it were the Truman Show because they had his best interest at heart.
	They don't have that with us.
	And in regard to the little thing we've been going through for the last three years, I'm a journalist and filmmaker and writer, and so my opinion is simply after I interview all the experts.
	If you have a former vice president of Pfizer saying there is not a pandemic, right?
	And that these, and then if you have the inventor of the mRNA technology say, I'm not getting the shot, this is unnecessary.
	It's gene therapy.
	You don't get chemotherapy as a prevention tool to prevent cancer.
	It's too dangerous.
	You see?
	And so if the Pfizer guy says they're lying, if the inventor of the shot says don't take it, I assume.
	And if Robert Kennedy Jr.
	says his uncle was killed by the CIA, then I guess he's right.
	What else is there?
	The CDC has added just in the last week that everybody should treat COVID just like the flu at this point.
	That's now their official recommendation.
	But you were banned if you said that in 2020.
	Yeah, I was thinking about this this morning before our interview.
	You know, it's like, You know, censorship really is evil and wicked.
	It is.
	It's not just not good or unfair.
	It's wicked.
	Because we're supposed to have freedom of speech and freedom of expression.
	What made our founding fathers and mothers' country great is the open sharing of ideas.
	Now, I'm all for including anybody and everybody, and it needs to be a two-way street.
	I personally, I don't get into politics.
	You know, Republican, Democrat, I take a nap instead of voting because it's a better use of my time.
	But everybody needs to accept everybody else's point of view.
	And it's really, you know, mentally expanding to listen to other points of view.
	Even if you initially disagree with them, there's got to be some point where you can find common ground.
	This idea That sharing a contrary opinion has to be taken down is really weird because I don't know how old you are, Mike, but I'm not that old.
	But back in my day, there were mandatory public service announcements.
	And one of them was if your doctor says, you know, cut off your left arm, get a second opinion, get a second opinion, get a second opinion.
	So, I have a doctor, and they said, you know, don't get the shot.
	I uploaded it to YouTube, not even publicly, privately, to share with somebody, and they took it down.
	It's like, it goes against medical authorities.
	And I'm like, well, who are the medical authorities?
	My doctor's a medical authority.
	He said, don't get the shot.
	You know what I mean?
	So, isn't he a medical authority too?
	It's like, well, why not debate?
	Why not discuss whether or not to have the shot or not?
	That would be the right thing.
	The answer to your question, I would submit, though, is because there is a global effort of mass extermination of the human population.
	So, I mean, that's why this was so enforced.
	I mean, we've been lied to.
	You're an expert on one of the big chapters of the lies told to humanity.
	We've been lied to this entire time.
	Our labor and our ideas have been exploited to the point where they no longer need us because of the rise of AI and humanoid robots.
	We're expendable now.
	It's kill off all the humans.
	I mean, it's not complicated, actually.
	It's very simple.
	It's comic book logic, but the globalists are doing it.
	They don't need us.
	Yeah, well, I guess the problem is People aren't aware of evil.
	They have no concept of good versus evil.
	They just assume all these politicians have your best interest in mind.
	I edited down that Pfizer interview of Michael Yirden, I think for your channel, just to like really condense it, the Reader's Digest version.
	And the thing that got me is, you know, he went through the steps.
	He went through the steps like, OK, so they're manufacturing the pandemic.
	The next step is, why are they doing that?
	To trick you into getting this injection?
	Or why are they doing that?
	And he says, well, they've done no safety studies and the previous ruling was gene therapy is so dangerous, only give it to a terminally ill person because what have they got to lose?
	And then he goes on, and when he says it, Mike, You can see him just not believing what he's saying, or just astonished.
	I guess they want to get rid of millions of people.
	He can't believe it as he says it.
	Well, you know, the Bible says, out of the overflowing of the heart, the mouth can't help but speak.
	And, you know, Bill Gates, there's a famous clip on YouTube where he says, you know, we need to lower the population by 94%, right?
	That's if you have a room of 34 people, he wants to get rid of 32 of them.
	Fortunately, Mike, you and me, we were chosen as the two.
	That was close.
	Apparently, yes.
	And so he says out of his own mouth, one of the ways is through vaccines.
	And I'm thinking, okay, so the guy says he wants to lower the population multiple times, you know, by 94%.
	And then wouldn't vaccines save the lives of millions of people who would then have millions and billions of children?
	That's kind of contrary to his goal in life, isn't it?
	Clearly.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm a filmmaker, and I have plans to do a film, and I have a budget and a script, and so if the guy's goal is to lower the population by, you know, millions or billions of people, I don't think he's twiddling his thumbs hoping it's going to happen someday.
	I think he has a plan, don't you?
	Yeah, clearly he has a plan-demic.
	He's one of the key architects of the whole thing, including pushing vaccines.
	All right, well, Bart, we're out of time for today.
	This has been truly fascinating.
	Yet again, I can't believe how quickly the hour has gone.
	I want to give out your website again, sobrell.com, S-I-B-R-E-L.
	I want to encourage everybody, go there.
	Even if you find this to be hard to believe, even if it challenges your entire worldview, You should go watch just these four simple videos on Sobrelle.com with an open mind, and see if there's something here that might challenge your thinking.
	Because I assure you, you will find something that will challenge your thinking.
	Bart, do you have any thoughts?
	I don't think anybody was as gaga over the moon landings as I was.
	I had a shrine of pictures on my wall, and everywhere I moved, I moved them with me.
	It was my god.
	I just had an open mind.
	And the book goes into so much detail as to why I finally had to accept the fact that they really did fake it.
	You know, the faking of the moon landing, Mike, is so much more profound historically than if they had actually gone.
	Do you see that?
	Either they went, they planted a flag and came back.
	If they faked it and embezzled billions of dollars, lied to the encyclopedia, printed it on stamps and coins, gave them medals of honor for being such good liars, and killed their own astronauts to cover it up.
	If that's true, which it is.
	Then that's so much more profound of an event in history than if they'd actually gone.
	Do you see that?
	So we have this great event in history that the world knows nothing about.
	We cannot grow, we cannot progress as a nation or people on this earth until we know that the greatest accomplishment was contrived.
	And that the United States government is a total fraud, which I think at this point most countries in the world would agree with that assessment.
	As it is to your health, that's for sure.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And the U.S.
	government is at war with us using all sorts of psychological operations.
	You know, I recently interviewed Dr. Michael Nells, an expert in the indoctrinated brain, and really what he's talking about is consistent with What you and I are talking about in the fact that there are always these psychological assaults on the human brain to try to stop people from thinking for themselves, to stop people from questioning anything.
	So I'm so glad, Bart, that you're willing to question.
	Thank you for what you're doing.
	We appreciate you and your work.
	Whether or not people agree with you, at least you are not just swallowing the propaganda whole.
	You are questioning it.
	So God bless you for doing that, Bart.
	Thank you, Mike.
	All right.
	Take care, Bart.
	We appreciate you.
	You too.
	All right.
	Well, folks, hope you enjoyed this thought-provoking interview.
	And again, you would not probably find this interview on YouTube or other censored platforms like Facebook and so on.
	But here on BrightSound.com, we are willing to talk to people who have a wide variety of ideas and understandings and research.
	And that's Bart Sabrell is a perfect example of that.
	So thank you for watching today, and feel free to repost this interview on other platforms and channels.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com.
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