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Dec. 25, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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Q&A Session #6: Maryam Heinen – Dr. Katherine Horton - John Kaminski – Jim Fetzer
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Welcome back, everyone, to the False Flags and Conspiracies Conference 2023.
I'm your host, your co-host this evening, Lorian Fenton, and we have the illustrious, the amazing, the guy who curated this whole event, Jim Fetzer is with us as well, and we're having our last Q&A session with Dr. Katherine Horton.
And I'm going to pull it up here.
I'm going to say it correctly, Miriam.
Hold on a second.
Miriam Hanane.
I hope I said that right.
Correct.
You did.
Yes.
Hey, good job.
Thanks, Jim.
You saved me.
I don't know.
Is Scott here?
He may already crashed.
I don't see Scott.
I don't see a lot of people.
So we're good.
We're good.
Hey, there's Kaminsky.
There he is, ringing John.
Oh, my God.
Where?
Okay, let me go find him.
He's right there.
Let me get him.
Hold on.
Let's see if it took...
Very good.
Very good.
Okay, John.
Okay, John, you need to turn your camera, John.
Yeah, turn your camera and everything on.
So there we go.
My God, we're so happy to have you here.
I thought it was a number.
You're a he-him at this point, I think.
You want to look for questions, Laurie?
I am.
I'm starting to get down that pathway here, folks.
Let me just take a look here.
I wanted to say to Catherine, though, I think there's a lot of suspicion in the court system today, Catherine.
Look at the way they're going after Trump, purely political, weaponizing the court system, weaponizing against me.
Alex, I don't know, it's funny, you know, something's going on there.
Because I offered to be an expert witness in his cases, both in Connecticut and in Texas.
They didn't have any interest.
I tried to be an expert in the Remington case, no interest.
They were willing to shell out, I don't know, $74 million in Remington case?
I think they were viewing it as an investment.
They think that eventually our guns are going to be licensed and we have to have insurance.
So these were insurance companies that were making an investment.
I think the underlying apprehension about your suggestion, I mean, I like it in spite of my experience, is people would just not have confidence in the courts.
Your thoughts?
My thoughts is you're absolutely right, but, and it's this but that we all have to hang on to.
Now, I stood before four judges by myself litigating against British intelligence, and the first two were Absolutely.
The first guy was amazing.
I couldn't find a fault with him.
The second guy, completely normal.
Normal reactions.
And that's when the intelligence agencies, I think, in my view, brought in their guys.
But they had to bring in their guys.
And in fact, I also saw evidence of them trying to kind of subtly, psychologically threaten the two judges that seemed completely normal.
So I just went to the court.
Nobody knew I was going to be in this.
Usually, You know, the people are completely by themselves.
There's no audience.
And then the judges in my the first two judges, they kept touching their neck and just looking over to something behind my shoulder.
And when the whole court case was over, I looked over and there was like the grumpiest, most threatening looking guy in the background.
Right.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it intimidated everyone.
Yeah, I mean, I actually, it was quite amusing because he had a face like four weeks of rain in Cornwall.
He was just like, you looked at him and your soul just sank.
And I just thought, hang on, I've actually studied and seen and I'm sure met quite a few of the proper MI6 serial killers.
And they're all really happy people.
You know, they just like, if they feel down, they go and kill somebody.
This guy looked miserable.
So I don't know, maybe he was the receptionist, you know, at MI6.
But anyway, so just aside, I completely hear what you're saying.
Just remember, remember that no system ever is always 100% captured, especially not down.
At the Supreme Court level, oh yeah, we're getting there, right?
But even there, in the UK at least, there are some people who I just couldn't believe that they are, you know, Completely committed to this nonsense.
So we can still hold on to it.
The real key is never to launch just one court case.
This is why I'm completely against class action lawsuits, because you put all your eggs into one basket, they put in a corrupt judge, you're done, right?
That's point number one.
It's much better to throw a hundred individual cases at them unpredictably so they can't Plant their people everywhere.
Extremely interesting, Catherine.
Everything you said tonight, fascinating.
Second, just second point, and this is even more important.
Even when you have a corrupt judge, remember that a judge's career is entirely kind of formed on the public bench.
Very rarely, especially in the UK, are you a high court judge and then you become general counsel for corrupt corp, you know, limited, right?
So when you can make shit stick to them, It's going to harm their career long term.
At least it's going to make them less viable for the cartel to be used again, which means they won't get paid for it.
Now, what you have to know is if you go into a court case, it's almost like a negotiation and, you know, invisibly behind them, they have a gun to their head.
Maybe they have a control file.
Maybe somebody contacted them and said, Hey, we don't have a control file on you, but your son looks like he's looking at, you know, kiddie porn.
He probably isn't, but they planted some stuff.
There's so many ways to threaten these people, so always know that it's a negotiation.
They have this invisible gun behind them, and what you present to them has to be so overwhelming and crushing, they can't argue against that without looking ridiculous.
That's point number one.
Number two, never, ever, ever, and I've said that so many times to you, Jim, never, ever go into court by yourself.
Always have a public campaign and have independent court observers, right?
You need at least when you get 20 people, they can't control and these people maybe have YouTube channels, maybe they don't.
But when you get 20 people, you start seeing a change in the judge.
Remember, he's staring Not just at you, he's looking behind your shoulder at all those people staring at him.
And when you reach about 15-20 people, I've seen judges literally crack.
I can see what they were meant to be doing there and they just couldn't.
They chicken out, you know, they bejern, they do anything not having to go up against that.
So that's when you can tell it's actually very easy to put overbearing pressure on a corrupt judge.
Right.
So that's what I'm saying.
Will there be corrupt judges?
Oh, heck yeah.
I mean, the vast majority of court cases I attended as an independent observer, the judges were corrupt.
But even then, there was quite a spectacular case where a litigant in Switzerland, Gerhard Ulrich, managed to prove in the court actual hearing that the judge, the counsel for the other side and his own counsel were members of a secret society.
He made them sign, under oath, a document saying that they're not members of a secret society and they all refused.
His own counsel, and so the meeting was adjourned, the judge had her knickers in a twist, she had to go and talk to her handlers, she couldn't handle it, right?
Herself.
And the counsel for Gerhard Ulrich had a meeting with him in a room and he ran out of, the counsel ran out of the room crying because he had to admit to Gerhard Ulrich this anti-corruption campaigner that he couldn't be his counsel anymore.
He couldn't sign that document.
So you can make them crack.
And when you reach that...
Pulled back the curtain.
Exactly.
And as I said, remember the names.
If you get a corrupt judge, remember that name and start talking about it forever after.
Yes, yes, yes.
Loria, go ahead.
I'm sure you got some questions.
Well, from what I can tell here, there's not very many questions.
There's a lot of comments that we can extrapolate from.
So there's one question for Catherine right off the bat, though, and she says, apologies if she missed it, but how are you implanted?
Can you describe your implants for us?
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, the camera isn't good enough, but I've got laser surgery scars on my forehead, on my lips.
So, also people said, why don't you have them removed?
The answer is, doctors get threatened and even if they agree to do the surgery on you, They chicken out last minute.
It happens in 95% or 99% of all the cases.
But you can buy this book off of Amazon for 15 bucks called Global Brainship and Mesogens written by Dr. Hildegard Stanninger.
And in the book, she has photographs of actual chips that were removed from U.S.
victims.
This one was a chip.
It's called a nasal bulb chip.
It's a chip that they put in here and they can access it quite well.
This thing was a brain chip.
This looks like organic matter, but actually it is as hard as a diamond.
This is some special material, either implanted or self-assembled in the brain of a victim.
So things have been removed in the past.
Show us the cover again, Captain.
Show us the cover again.
It's called Global Brain Chips and Messages.
Messages are novel materials, right?
And in here, you have not just photographs of various chips, but you also have scientific measurements of what materials they are made up of.
So, this is real.
Dr. Stanninger measures them.
But you can't remove them because the doctors get threatened.
That's why.
Can I say something?
Mary, I was going to ask you, please, because you have lots of experience in this area, too.
Go for it.
Well, I've, Dr. Horton, just I've reported on the Transhumanist agenda and Lieber and the monkeys.
And actually, recently I came across a documentary that I have to find again or a program where they were showing the Pong exercise.
I was hoping to speak to Sarah prior to Elon Musk.
And in reality, this mind project is in motion.
And like in your case, like I was saying off before we recorded that they target people in different ways.
Like in my case, they're just doing damage control.
There's lawfare, like in, I believe, with With you, Professor Fetzer, like they just F with you and they can use frequencies and if I'm a sensitive and I'm an empath, but as far as the brain chips, while I was writing about the experiments and all the truth of like more than a thousand monkeys who've died and pigs,
Under Neuralink, because at the beginning they were at UC Davis, and then Physicians for Responsible Medicine did a FOIA.
And then Neuralink literally went to UC Davis and got all the footage, basically scrubbed the place and opened their own private, but they were doing a FOIA to get the videos, but they got the charts.
I read some of the charts.
And then as I was doing these stories, I had started getting people asking me, can you help me get a brain chip out of my brain?
And it happened, you know, once, twice.
There was one case where I looked up, there was a case actually in Pacer and, but you know, she was deemed schizophrenic and I would be someone to Check them out.
I had two people that had chips that I was conversing with, but they were also very intense, very intelligent, probably why their chip to begin with, like super, very fast with their delivery and their emails.
And like, I'm inundated.
And they said, like, I would love to help you, but I don't know where you can go to remove your chip.
And You know, so now on the surface, asking, signing people up under the guise of health, that they're going to start experimenting on humans when basically, because Elon even said the monkeys can no longer speak back, like we've come to the end of the line.
And I was speaking on the chat recently.
Someone that follows my work on transhumanism sent me this woman, I think her name is Sin or Synergy, I'm sorry I'm not saying her channel properly, but she was basically a DARPA test baby.
Her parents were in the military and were poor and couldn't, you know, donated her to DARPA and she wouldn't die like most of the babies died.
And she's lived to say and she's saying that they're already remote controlling into people.
But if you think about how effing crazy that sounds, I mean even I telling people like they're attacking my company, they sent someone who embezzled money.
And I'm to my own devices and who's going to believe it?
Like even in looking for an attorney, you have to do the litmus test of like, are you woke?
Are you a brainwashed sheeple?
Do you know?
Like I say subtly, like even on Upwork, I'm trying to find help.
Do you know what censorship is?
And like, oh, what do you mean?
Like, so it's very difficult to say.
It's only my other journalists and this, you know, this world that I live in, in the ethers where I know a lot of people we haven't necessarily met.
Anyway, so I just wanted to say that it's unfortunate that there should be underground, like there were abortion clinics, there should be underground places to be able to do so.
I agree.
John, before you pass out, do you have some thoughts about these chip businesses?
It's fascinating to listen to these ladies.
It is, it is.
It's been such an honor to attend all this.
I was completely impressed by Scott Bennett going over there and sticking his nose into everybody's business and really representing America as it should be represented.
Scott is here.
Scott is here.
Unmute Scott.
Which is why I asked that question that he wouldn't answer.
Like, why can't he represent America?
I'm seeing if I can reach to him.
I'm being told he's here.
I mean, he might still be plugged in, but not actually be physically there.
But if you are, Scott, unmute and join.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been texting him, Jim, and I can't raise him, so he might not be in front of his camera.
It happens.
Back to you, Catherine.
More thoughts.
So people have been asking how these chips get put in.
I'm just trying to catch up with the chat here.
And also to Marion, what I want to say is that with all these people that I talk to, the best strategy I have, and this is also how I talk to police people and judges and absolutely everybody.
Now, these days, we have so much information about these chips, actually.
So we have this entire book, I have my own measurements, there's entire scientific papers where they are publicly discussing how they can make body area networks, so that's this entire collection of chips on one person, talk to another Body area network.
So they want to have the internet of body area networks, right?
So they want to basically be able to pass a signal or message from one person's body to the next using the devices in them, almost like a Wi-Fi router, you know, Wi-Fi repeater.
So that particular article is on my website under the references section.
So we already have that, but they also talk about the exact frequencies.
Now, I'm a physicist and anything that communicates with anything else It can be measured.
So the good thing is, and this is how this whole system is going to be brought down.
What they did is they put evidence of crimes against humanity into people's bodies.
It becomes their property and it can't be removed that easily as I've just explained.
So in other words, in a sense, if you are implanted, you're screwed, but also you just won yourself a lottery ticket to a multi-million dollar settlement.
And really, I have an entire Explanation on my website and my YouTube channel, how you can measure these chips.
So now we can tell the difference between people who are schizophrenic, if that disease even exists really, but okay, that aside, right?
But those people who maybe are mentally ill or whatever, have other symptoms.
From real diseases and those who have been implanted and also just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that people aren't able to get there, right?
So, even if they are mentally ill, they could have still been implanted using the fact that they are mentally ill to just, you know, as a cover.
But we can literally stick a bug detector to their neck and that's just a device that costs 150 bucks.
And you can find these chips because they have a telltale frequency signature.
They emit polarized radiation.
What that means in practice is that I have to stick the antenna of the bug detector.
Oh, actually, I've got one here.
The one I'm using, I've got right here.
So I just, there's just too much background here to show you, but I've got YouTube videos.
So what that means is if it's a chip, the signal will be maximum always at the same angle.
So the antenna has to be at a certain angle.
The signal starts going down if I move it like that or forward, backward, you know.
So every person's chips can be measured and it will always be the same angle of the antenna to have the maximum signal.
Sorry, what if it's nano?
What if it's using geo?
Even if it's nano, there has to be something that is big enough that it can communicate with the frequency that they're using.
And there are other limitations of how do you get the frequency to them.
You know, there's various technical limitations.
And within those parameters, the thing is, you can always get something to prove it, you know.
And as I said, absolutely everybody who I've scanned who had chips had a very strong emitter in the neck.
One person had it on like kind of the ribcage, but typically here on the neck.
And you can just find it with this because they use standard frequencies.
Now the point of the chip would be to manipulate you to activate.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because cell phones, you know, we've had so many reports about cell phones being ubiquitous and they can track us everywhere.
Maureen, I want you to ask questions, not just be the, you know, I want to ask something.
I want to respond.
Yeah, go ahead.
Catherine.
So, so this woman, this DARPA baby, she was basically saying that there's people whose job is to go in and remote control, let's say you and F with you and then take measurements.
And that even notion, like when, you know, it was a few weeks ago that, that someone sent me her
First channel on Odyssey and I tried to reach out to her to interview her but that notion seems crazy but you you've just I think with the little that I've heard your testimony today that it proves it knowing like yes this is this is being done the fact has there been any proof to quantify it like have you won a court case or have is there enough testimony So are my court cases still pending?
I ran into two corrupt judges towards the end.
And at the time when I was there, I didn't have the evidence that I have now.
So right now I'm working on a court case, right?
Literally, like now at this desk, right?
And I get all the blowback as a result of that.
But there have been court cases.
One of them is, I think, Richard Kane, James Walbert, that James Walbert was an entrepreneur who proved his brain implant and actually got a court settlement.
Wow.
In that case, his business partner was doing the harassing or was involved in the harassment.
Yes.
So there are all these court cases.
There's also court, I think that that court case, the third one happened in London to a family that fled Russia.
It was called the Baranov family.
And they proved various, they were basically two scientists, the parents and their children and them were being targeted in Russia.
They fled to the UK, proved this technology, had a court case and then settled in Canada, to my knowledge.
But Baranoff family, you can Google that and there's an entire website with the material.
Court cases have been happening.
There have been tons of court cases where evidence was presented and it was not successful or the court case was corrupt, hijacked by the judge or the lawyers.
I myself was an expert witness in several court cases.
One was Melanie Richan in Brussels.
I made an entire court bundle and I had the scientific evidence of a throat implant that was a remote controlled strangulator.
So that has been already assembled.
Yes, I've got the photograph of the strangulator.
It was a pretty big block.
I mean, like three sugar cubes next to each other.
And that was operated out of her throat.
And I took that thing to the Paul Scherer Institute, which is a science lab in Switzerland, and had it analyzed with What's it called?
X-ray spectroscopy.
And we could prove that the content of this was titanium and iron.
So, you know, that's already been done.
And have you been able to find, pair it up with any studies or patents that show the technology?
Yes.
So the lady who had this throat implant, she actually was pointed to The University of Twente, I think, and that holds the patent for that remote controlled strangulator.
She has the information on that.
I've got an entire list of 110 patents that somebody put together for me, just patents you can research on Google regarding this technology.
I've got the scientific paper talking about the body area networks and They just assume 30 people have these and they call them wearable devices.
But when you look at their diagrams, they include chips in the ankles, like who the flip, you know, straps a Fitbit to the ankle, right?
So it's pretty clear it's being implanted.
And the frequencies they are talking about is the frequencies I measure.
Were you asleep?
Yes, regarding how it's implanted.
We also have the testimony of a former MI6 guy called Karl Clark.
He testified to the German press in 2009.
And he witnessed how people would be anesthetized by pumping an odorless gas through the letterbox or under your door in a hotel room.
The intelligence agencies would come in and do whatever they want with you, right?
Now, the way these chips are implanted is they use a handheld laser scalpel.
I'm pretty sure because I've got the laser scalpel scars on my body all over, right?
You can go to an expert dermatologist and people like that can recognize them because these laser scalpels are used especially in facial surgery.
So a handheld laser scalpel, they break into a room at night, you're anesthetized with this gas, and it's almost like a Formula One pit stop.
They make a small cut with the laser handheld laser scalpel.
It doesn't even bleed because the laser is so hot.
They put in the chip, which could be an actual chip or even something like a powder, That's many chips and then they seal it with tissue glue.
I'm not sure if any of you had ever tissue glue, you know, for small cuts.
It's almost like super glue.
You just put it on and then hold the cut together for 20 seconds.
Charlie likes that they use that.
Yeah.
And, and that's it.
You implanted, you wake up the next day with a, with something that looks like a paper cut or the scratch from a cat or just some random small thing, but it's a chip, right?
That's, that's how it's done.
And I remember that I, in the end, reconstructed that I was implanted as an undergraduate at the University of Oxford.
I was, I would wake up with bruises on my thighs and arms that were very unusual.
And eventually when I looked at them in detail, I could see the imprint of a large male hand on my thighs, like thumb and four fingers.
And I realized, Oh, they're turning me around in my sleep, you know, but I only figured this out years later, like 10, You know, 17 years later, when I had the measurements from a university that I'm actually implanted, I am emitting like a mobile phone, you know?
Do you know why they chose you?
Political, because she's leading the legal case against... Back then, I was an 18-year-old little nothing.
No, maybe it's because of her intellect.
They choose people.
No.
Honestly, I think... No, it's because of her engagement in legal issues that are threatening to their program.
But that was before.
That was like a decade before I even did any of that, Jim.
I'd like to interject something here very quickly.
I have been involved in this community for a very long time.
I started my process in 1997.
I put on the Mind Control Conferences in 2013 and 2014, Robert Duncan and Dr. Bob Haas from Texas, people from Canada.
I've had Kevin and Annette, a million people in my conferences.
Bottom line to all this, I was attacked, and I don't talk about any of it anymore, but in the end, I found out from a military expert that was very well-heeled in the mind control community, that they have a remote viewing project that they've been conducting for years and years, and it's well-advanced beyond anything we can imagine.
And my first question was the night I figured out, live on radio, talking to a targeted individual what had happened to me, and it took me five years to figure it out, that the guy that was the military guy got a hold of me right after that show and said, well, they gave you this certain thing, and they tried to kill you with this back in 2009, and blah, blah, blah.
My first question out of my mouth, and everybody remember this, is, That was before I ever did anything.
And he said, they know the future, and your name came up, and they tried to kill you long before you got out there.
So everybody chew on that for a while.
That's the bottom line to all this, Catherine.
The reason you were chosen is because not what you were not doing then is what you were going to do in the future because your name came up.
Well, that's my opinion.
I'm skeptical about the remote viewing business, but William Fox asks, what are good tactics to avoid implanted devices in the first place?
Are there ways to find surgeons that can figure out ways to remove them in secret to avoid reprisals by intel agencies?
Has anyone worked as a consciousness-raising activist focused on surgeons, Catherine?
There have been some surgeons who removed it, hence the pictures in this book, right?
But they have been retaliated against.
It is still possible, but it takes a lot of work.
I still want you to answer the question why you think, but to that point, I have a friend that was damaged in 9-11 and she was a cleanup and she knows that it's this neural dust And she's gone to several doctors.
I think three of them are dead, people that have tried to help her.
Yeah, that's very common.
Miriam, they use nuclear devices to blow the Twin Towers.
I mean, 70,000 people have had these anomalies, multiple myeloma, leukemia.
It's a pattern just like Chernobyl as an aftermath of 9-11, because they use these nukes.
Lorian, I know you got something else you want to say.
Go ahead, go ahead.
No, no, no.
That's all I wanted to say.
I mean, that was my whole point to just trying to help Catherine figure out why they attacked her before she ever did anything.
Well, Catherine, what is your take on remote viewing?
I mean, if I'm the skeptic of this crowd, let's say Laurie might be a believer.
Well, we're talking, okay, Jim, we're talking about people way beyond Stubblebine, okay?
Now, just remember, we know he's... I'm not talking about Stubblebine, I get that.
Yeah, yeah, so listen, it's a real program.
I think the remote viewing thing is...
Let's say far out.
Okay, I have some information that maybe might clarify all of this.
So first of all, why are people targeted?
I've done some research on that.
The biggest determinant, if you're targeted or not, is are you a woman?
Because about 90% of all the victims are women.
Now that ratio, sex ratio in the victims mirrors exactly war crimes and sexual violence.
And that's actually what this is underlying it all.
And that's because the people who are doing this are mostly male and they just get off on remote torturing and raping women.
They absolutely fricking love it.
Right?
So it's a wonderful business plan.
Once you implant a woman, you can actually traffic her out to all your friends.
They can buy access to rape or torture by remote control.
It's a gift that keeps giving.
Unfortunately, so 90% of all the victims are women, right?
There's a lot of children.
Now, the other thing that I found out with my survey, because I did an international survey, is that every second person knows that either their parents or children are also targeted.
So every person has evidence that it might be generational.
In other words, if your family that ends up on the shit list of this intelligence cabal cartel, They know that your children will be smart and like you with the same values, so they target entire family lineages and entire social
groups as well right to work out amongst all this what was the deciding factor was it the fact that your grandfather did something against the masons and that's why you're on the shit list or just because you're a woman they like to rape by remote control and they love trafficking you or is it because you just happen to be the neighbor of somebody who's the real target and you're being just targeted because They set up all the equipment and hey, why not shoot at you as well.
It's very difficult to determine it.
And beyond a certain point, it doesn't even matter because the number of people they target is just astounding.
Right?
Astounding.
So that's so far.
The remote viewing It sounds fancy-schmancy, but when you break it down to the individual biotechnology devices that we know exist, because we found either evidence that I've just shown or we found commercial adverts for them, remote viewing is really just accessing your miscellaneous biotechnology implants by remote control like a cell phone.
You can access a cell phone camera and then see what, you know, the other person is filming.
And similarly, there's, oh God, I forgot the name.
It was called Omega Ophthalmics or something.
There's a company that advertises contact lenses or even lens implants that you can put in.
It's a cataract implant.
Yeah, which allows you not just for whoever logs into your device to see what you're seeing, but also to stream like internet content, freaking Wikipedia, you know?
Let me say, I've got to be open-minded about it, because in the beginning I didn't believe no blinds.
I mean, it didn't make any sense until I started to study it.
Just like with Paul McCartney dead and be replaced.
I didn't believe that for a minute.
And I'm a huge Beatles love.
I've even said, if I could have been someone else, it would have been Paul McCartney until I learned he died in 9-11.
9-11 in 1960s.
I decided that wasn't such a good swap after all.
So, you know, count me open minded to it, Laura, especially if Catherine has given me a, you know, a technical, scientific explanation for why it makes sense.
You know, Jim, the biggest point I'm trying to make here is that there are things that we don't even know about that these guys have got control over.
So, you know, whether I'm right or wrong, it doesn't make any difference.
We just have to all be open-minded to the fact that there could be much more going on than we're aware of.
I have a question.
I want to give John a chance to say something.
Yeah, get to John!
Finally, finally I have a question.
Before you say anything, and just remember your question, I want to ask you, how does this play out with your whole presentation about religion as a mind control device?
How do you think that they're playing this out?
Because they're actually physically controlling people, but they're also controlling them through religion, as you just presented so well.
So how do these compare?
What is your thought on that?
The control by religion is widespread.
I have a friend in Canada.
I can't call her an old lady because I'm older than she is, but she is constantly under siege.
At night, people messing with things in her hair.
She goes to the supermarket.
People are following her and poisoning her.
The things that she buys, this has been going on for decades.
And she's constantly under siege.
And I mean, she's, I mean, otherwise, she's a brilliant person, is up to speed on current events.
And all other regards is completely sane.
But you have to acknowledge her behavior to Supposedly normal person like myself is like completely bizarre that she's under siege all the time by these people affecting her life.
What's happening to her?
John, I'm interested in the question you were going to ask when you finally got the chance to ask a question or had a question to ask.
You remember?
That was the question.
That was the question?
Yeah.
What is happening to this woman?
She's been under siege for years.
Well, we have to talk to her.
I'd have to do a psych eval.
I'd have to take an intake form personally and do my investigation.
But this story of gang stalking, because I have done research into targeted individuals, we have to discern here that there's different things happening to different people, different experiments.
There's different types of targeting for different motives.
I was going to share that one person that told me that they were implanted went for I think a spinal tap.
He was on Adderall so he he was someone that couldn't be knocked out because he'd take it in the morning and he was completely knocked out and then when he woke up they had done something to him And he was trying to get people's attention to the deeper experiment that was going on, and the way in which they recruit.
So in this case, they didn't do it in the sleep.
They did it in a medical facility.
He was chipped, Marion.
Yeah, he was chipped.
I mean, I don't know how far, you know, if he knows your work, if he measured himself.
Then there was another person that was, like I said, very dense in their information and was, I was about to say his name, but he was on Twitter and then at one point said, I've been instructed to block you.
Which was like, what?
Why?
And you would think like maybe people are hearing and just thought crazy, crazy person.
But the amount of information and the links, I just couldn't keep up.
So anyway, just to discern there's different things happening to different people.
I say they tailor their torture to the person.
Like in my case, I don't think I have chips, but I think that they use frequencies.
And it so happened that I lived, when I lived in LA, I lived on a test city, a test street, where they were testing out 5G.
It doesn't even mean at that time they were targeting me.
I was just feeling the electro.
I actually got a meter that Mercola had recommended and went and measured the amount of Electro smog.
So I drove me in Minneapolis down a major drive with a beat.
We were just showing how much electromagnetic we were being exposed to.
It was huge.
Catherine, further thoughts of yours?
I just think that so the vast majority of people I met, I've actually never met a crazy person that, you know, ever, ever.
I'm not sure where these crazy, genuinely crazy people are.
I've never met them.
And I talked to hundreds of people.
Um, the ultimate test for me is if it's something that's happening to them that they feel it can be measured.
Right.
Because ultimately the body is like a detector, right?
It can be measured.
It might be hard.
It might be technology that.
Maybe we don't have or don't have yet, or it costs a lot of money, but it can be measured.
And once you start going systematically and actually start looking for these chips, you can find them.
It's not even that hard.
I trained housewives how to find their chips and actually produce really smoking gun evidence by proving that it's polarized radiation.
Nothing in the background is polarized radiation that creates always the same angle to your neck.
You can turn around, you can do it next Wednesday, a month later, it's always the same.
These chips are emitting pretty much all the time.
They sometimes go radio silent for a few minutes, but they always come back on and ping.
You talked a little bit about remote viewing, relying on devices like that.
Yeah, absolutely.
I've seen several documentaries or things that were put out about remote viewing, and you have to realize the intelligence agencies Have an absolute interest of making it sound all woo woo, you know?
It's like if you can hear the Doctor Who theme tune playing, the fog machine has just been turned on and they obfuscate what they're actually doing.
When you break it down and you think about, okay, here's the effect.
How could they have possibly done it and pulled it off and look for the technology?
You always find it.
So you have to look at these conjuring tricks and find out how did the magician pull it off?
It's usually something so mundane where you just think, oh man, this is just dumb, you know, but that's how they do it.
The real power is that they've been doing it for decades and nobody even sought to look.
But now with this knowledge, we can go back in time and somebody who claims they've been targeted since the eighties, we can find the implants and we can find variation in technology.
Variation in the strength that these devices emit.
You know, the very early devices used to cause cancer.
They were so strong.
It'd be great to do a documentary.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
I was just going to say the men who stare at goats is just a farce.
No, actually, in there, if you look at the man who stares, he goes, let me just recall the movie.
I've seen it once before.
Isn't there also a scene where somebody just sees a landscape and describes like a satellite dish and describes a house in great detail?
And it just so happens it turns out to be an NSA facility that they saw by remote viewing, right?
Where you just watch the film and you're like, oh, really?
They're recalling something to which they were exposed in the past.
Or else the video footage that was broadcast to their eye implant has been recorded at where?
The NSA facility because those idiots couldn't even be bothered to walk off the grounds, right?
What a bunch of numbnucks.
So remote viewing is mostly sleight of hand.
Well, remote viewing, I think, is using victims who don't know they have been implanted to transmit images using this Omega ophthalmic technology that's now commercially available.
Can I say something to remote viewing?
Just let me squeeze in.
Jane Doe says remote viewing is real.
She votes with you, Lorian.
Good, because I happen to be very good friends with Lin Buchanan, who they made the movie Stare at Goats about, and General Stubblebine was his boss, and Bert, and I know quite a bit about it, and I gotta say, Catherine's looking at it from one side of the coin, I look at it from both sides of the coin, because they really do tap into a psychic area of the brain, and they do do that, and it's a fact that they can do it.
He's saying he was in a remote viewing program.
And I'm a novice.
I'm a novice here, Lori.
But Catherine's right, too.
See, like, all I'm saying is Catherine is right, and I'm also right.
So there's two sides to this coin.
And we've got to remember, the military, they're not telling us what they're doing and how far advanced they are.
And Catherine, I think, has a very good point.
I think she's absolutely right.
I think implants played a big part of this, but we're never going to find out.
You know?
Go ahead, Miriam.
I'd like to share what I've done, which I would liken to remote viewing, or what I can do.
Let's say, you know, when I, just give an example, moved to St.
Augustine.
I'd never been to St.
Augustine.
I'd never been in the house.
I remote viewed it.
I looked at a plan An actual plan but then in my head and energetically I went into the space to scan it and I scan people so is that remote viewing that I can do that?
When you saw the property did you already have like was it under contract?
Had you communicated with the landlord or the previous owner to buy it or rent it?
Well, it's not a mist, it's not a mist.
What I'm saying is that I saw, I saw the place I got, then I'm like, show me a blueprint.
But in my mind, energetically, I was scanning for mold and scanning the space.
So energetically went into the space and scanned it.
I can also go into my old childhood house and remote view into the house and see all the rooms.
So what am I doing?
I don't know what you call it, but I can do that.
I've done it.
One of the things I have personal experience with But there I kind of figured out how to do it.
I had a similar experience whereby, but there I figured out I had, I communicated about this house I really wanted to rent and we were just about to move.
And then by the time I arrived, I had seen the house before.
I could tell what's behind the door.
And then I recalled that I had a dream about that, but that dream was mysteriously high definition.
And then I figured out that a lot of the NSA research and the DARPA research is also about creating virtual reality models, where you can navigate so you can, I have an entire set of microchips on my scalp and I know that for sure because they use that for heating torture so they I just a week ago I was debilitated and in bed for three days and I had to have ice packs on my head until they stopped heating my chips.
So I have an entire EEG device here and they can basically measure my brain states all the time and also like eye movement and room perception and kind of induce me also to kind of, you know, think about visual and sorry, Like 3D stuff, like, you know, stuff in spatial dimensions, as opposed to other thoughts, other types of thought.
And I actually remembered, oh, hang on, I can recall this dream where I was shown a high definition VR room, probably through these eye implants that I know that I have, you know, and there was absolutely no mystery why I knew that that building was there, because these bastards have through the world radar, they can fly a drone over the property, make an actual 3D model, You know, off the exact room and know everything inside it.
Just make a, you plug it into a computer program.
It creates this 3D virtual reality and boom, there you have it.
And then you're there and you think, oh, I'm pretty sure there's a broom cupboard over there.
And ta-da!
There's a broom cupboard.
Of course, because the drone just freaking measured the broom cupboard the night before they sent you the virtual reality little mock-up that they just created, you know?
What is astral projection?
I have no idea.
I haven't heard that.
Astral projection is when you leave the body.
Is there such a thing as controlled astral travel?
Does that ring a bell?
Yes, there is, and that's for another conference!
Yeah, no doubt.
Laurie, and a couple people said to me how much they appreciated your managing the evening sessions.
I just wanted you to know that was very positive.
Thank you.
I'm glad they liked it.
I can't believe I actually am doing this, but I'm glad we did it, Jim.
It's been wonderful.
Well, you were wonderful.
I couldn't have done it without you.
I mean, there's no doubt about it.
You were wonderful making it free and public.
I mean, that was the key.
You were the key.
Well, we kind of decided that together, didn't we, Jeb?
You know, because, you know, this conference is so important.
I can't imagine charging for it because everybody needs to have access.
That's how important it is.
Yeah.
I've never wanted to charge for any program, but there have been some when the way it was being transmitted was expensive.
Well, exactly.
And see, that's a big problem.
And thank God I've got webinars at Zoom.
Yeah, I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled, Lorian.
I'm thrilled.
We'll do it again.
Let me get each of your final thoughts here as we wrap things up.
And Catherine, you're just spectacular as my cleanup man.
Really, you were wonderful.
Gosh, I'm pleased to say it because I'm just so tired after today.
I'm utterly shagged out, so I'm glad I didn't show up.
You were wonderful.
Just wonderful.
Great privilege to be here.
Oh, John, you were spectacular.
Your talk was among the most provocative of them all.
Really thought-provoking.
Miriam, would you like to add a few final thoughts?
Just thank you for having me.
I'm also so tired.
I hope that... That's great.
It's great having you.
You have a very distinctive style and you contribute something very different.
A lot of achievements.
Great achievements.
Yeah, I'll just say, Lauren, how much I appreciate all your efforts here to make all this happen, and we'll do it again together.
Thank you both.
Yes, we will.
It'll be my privilege to help you out again, no problem.
And I want to thank the ladies and our gentlemen in the last Q&A session of the night, and I just wanted to say, Jim, take us out, and this will be the end of the conference.
Well, I can't thank everyone enough for being here and taking the time and effort, and I was very impressed with the presentations.
I felt my way of lining things up worked, and I hope you felt the same.
And you can stand by and anticipate we're going to have a fifth annual next year with my Co-host, co-producer, Lorian Fenton, to whom I'm enormously indebted, as I am to all of our sponsors.
Promoted Revolution Radio, RBN, Moonrock Books, Dean's Company and Gary King over at JFK Truth TV.
Gary did a great job here helping us with a production in the morning which was before your time of My time of day, yes.
Right, your time of day.
I'm the vampire lady.
Look, everyone, it's been spectacular.
I can't thank you enough.
And we're going to get all these programs that are going to be posted.
They'll be posted by next week.
They're already in the process, so stand by.
Super.
I can't thank you enough.
And for a final thought, go to the website falseflagsandconspiraciesconference.com and check out all the speakers we had.
You can follow them there.
I tried to get at least one URL up there for you to click through to follow them.
If I don't have it up there, Speakers, let me know so that I can make sure that you get followed from this event.
And also, if you want to follow Jim, you can follow him at jameshfetzer.org.
Is that correct, Jim?
You got to have the H. My old blog was taken by a guy who calls himself Leonard Posner.
It's a hell of a story.
I know you want to squeeze another word in there.
Do you want to say a final word, Miriam?
I want to reach out to Catherine because I'd love to interview her for my show.
I usually, if I wasn't under siege, I would have watched, been, you know, live watching the whole show because I'm always wanting to just learn and so I apologize for my, you know, you said my distinct character.
I just think It's very difficult for me to not be honest of what's going on, and I have a lot of emotions that go through my radar, but I'm always, you know, we'll revert back to laughing at some point.
You have style, woman.
No apologies required.
Thank you all.
It's just been absolutely spectacular.
And Lorian, thank you again from the bottom of my heart.
I'm going to plug myself shamelessly here for one second.
You can follow me at lorianfenton.com.
It's just my name.
So there you go.
Thank you.
This now concludes our fourth annual Paul Zweig and Conspiracies Conference.
I thank one and all.
Enjoy.
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