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Dec. 25, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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Q&A Session #: Scott Bennett – Russ Winter – Ron Avery - Jim Fetzer
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Welcome back, everyone, to the False Flags and Conspiracies Conference 2023.
I'm your co-host, Lorian Fenton, and I'm here with Jim Fetzer, Russ Winter, Ron Avery, and Scott Bennett, and we're going to be discussing a Q&A session About all their presentations.
So if you guys have got questions in the audience, please put them in the Q&A part of the boxes down here, and I'll be reading these questions for our guests today.
And Jim, do you have anything you want to ask and start out with while I start getting questions together here?
No, I just wanted to add that being Nick is in the UK and is six hours ahead of us, it's late for him.
So I'm sitting in for Nick.
Perfect!
That's wonderful.
Okay, so let me see.
Now, did everybody know that you need to type the name of the person you would like to ask the question of?
And please put it in capital letters so I know who to ask.
You've already got a lot of questions there, Laurie, and you just want to start with them, even if they didn't do that.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
But going forward, I would really appreciate it if you would type it in capital letters.
That would help me a lot.
And the first one is from Bonnie, and it's for Ron Avery.
And I think it's more of a comment than a question.
She's saying, thank you very much for your presentation on real Christianity, and how so-called Christian fundamentalists have gone off the rails.
Do you want to comment on the Christians going off the rails, Ron?
Well, sure.
They went off the rails all right, and they've adopted a false theology, a false doctrine, a heresy.
And that's what caused them to go off the rails, and that's what unifies them with the Antichrist state of Israel.
Because neither one of them believe in the existence of the Kingdom of God on Earth, and that's what Jesus came to do, was create the Kingdom of God on Earth.
So, I mean, they're both deniers.
Let me add, Lorraine, about Ron's presentation.
He was arguing based on biblical text, but I think that's appropriate because the Israelis claim that biblical texts justify their entitlement to the Promised Land as a chosen people, so it really is a biblical textual interpretation issue, so I feel that Ron's Elaboration of those, while others who are non-religious, for example, might be skeptical.
I think it was really the appropriate ground on which the issue is being fought.
I agree.
And it's no accident either.
It was a conspiracy.
Oh, absolutely.
The British millennialists were behind it.
It goes way back to the 1850s, 1860s, which he covered quite well.
Absolutely, and even further back than that, I would say 12th century, 13th, 14th century.
With Catholics and everything that was going on.
Anyhow, here's a question for Russ.
How would you have Israelis infiltrated Hamas?
How would you have Israelis infiltrated Hamas?
Wait, wait, let me finish it.
Do you have any info on how Hamas was used by Israel?
Are you serious?
Is that a serious question?
Yeah, well, it seems to be.
It's from Bonnie, and Bonnie's usually pretty on it.
You don't have a clue of how the Mossad infiltrates and gets inside these organizations?
The Israelis created Hamas initially, Lori, and they created Hamas to divide away from the Palestinian Authority.
I think I'm just responding the way I should, though, because it's just kind of easy for them.
They have a knack at it.
They're very well organized.
They can speak all kinds of languages.
They can blend in.
There's all kinds of Palestinian orphans that have been in Israel for years and years.
They, Israelis, get a hold of them and raise them as their own so that they can use them to infiltrate.
I mean, they're all over.
They're infiltrated into Hamas right this minute.
They're infiltrated into Hezbollah, into Lebanon, into Syria.
That's how they operate.
That's not a stretch.
Don't act surprised.
And I'm going to ask Bonnie, because Jim and I both know Bonnie very well, I'm going to ask her to rephrase the question maybe and get it a little more concise if she would.
But that'd be great.
And here's a question from Bonnie for Scott Bennett.
Why would you refer to Zelensky as Hitler?
Zelensky is Jewish, but put in power by Jewish oligarch Kolomansky.
So Scott, what do you think?
That's a good question, Bonnie.
Because I'm speaking in psychological warfare symbology, because I'm speaking in Russia in a language that the Russians can understand, that the Russians connect with.
I don't give a crap what Americans think or connect with.
I'm overseas in another country trying to serve in a diplomatic fashion, Building bridges using common language symbology.
And I've had a few encounters with people who are barking up trees about how Hitler was misunderstood and all sorts of other things relating to World War II and the Holocaust and all that, which is fine and good.
I'm all in agreement with all that stuff.
However, I'm in Russia.
I'm not in Missouri.
I'm not in any normal country.
I'm in Russia that lost how many millions of people in the Second World War?
And the language they understand is Nazism.
And I'm not referring to Nazism in any modern American way.
I'm referring to it in a Russian way.
And Russia looks at Nazism as those who have killed their fathers and grandfathers and uncles and great-uncles and stuff like that.
So it's to build a rapport, and I think it's pretty obvious in the interviews that Nazism, and it's not equating it to Germans or Germanic anything, it's equating them to fascism, if you will.
Fascistic, godless, atheistic, Uh, impulse.
Now, Zelensky is a fake Jew.
I don't even know what the hell he is, but he's nothing reputable, he's nothing honorable, and I don't think he'll be alive long.
I do interviews with RT almost every other day.
And when I'm using this language, it's to basically draw parallels to Zelensky behaving like Hitler in a bunker, not referring to him as a German or anything like that.
Let's get sophisticated in our weaponry of language.
When I'm saying Hitler in the Bunker is Zelensky, I'm referring to a psychological image of him being, if you've seen that film Downfall, that's what I want people to see Zelensky as when I refer to him as Hitler in the Bunker.
A madman coming apart at the seams that is not much of a threat, he's more of a nuisance.
This is weaponry of language, not academic accuracy.
This is psychological warfare.
So hopefully that clears it up.
And one quick question from Bonnie also is, who were the soldiers you were interviewing and what are they saying?
She couldn't understand the audio there.
Well, the soldiers I was interrogating were soldiers who had been captured, prisoners of war, Azov Battalion.
You know, one of them was a far-right Azov Battalion Nazi.
I didn't have them all out there for interest of time.
One was an economist, an engineer, the tall gentleman who was more reasonable than most.
He was rather educated.
There was another one on there that wasn't reported.
He was an officer.
They had all been captured for committing crimes, for murdering people, for shooting civilians in the Donbass.
So they were being held and I wanted to find out had they interfaced with Americans, with Britons, with Poles.
I didn't mention in that interview or in this presentation that the Ukrainians told me that they have been flown over to Britain since before 2022.
So Britain and the United States has been taking Ukrainians over and training them and sending them back to Ukraine in preparation for this war, which Nick Kellerstrom did a very good expose on as well.
So, these are prisoners.
They were repentant, I think.
The only one that wasn't was the Nazi with the Azov battalion tattoo and the runic writing on his calf.
I mean, if you really want to look at the psychological MK-Ultra brainwashing of Ukraine since the 1990s, it is a horror story.
It is nauseating what the United States has done in Ukraine to these people.
And I'll tell you, we don't have a clue what's coming.
What I saw in Donbass, I've told Jim, I see coming to the United States.
I see buildings being shredded and glass being blown out.
I see terrorism coming to the United States.
Why?
Because these MKUltra brainwashed Ukrainians are so out of their mind I mean, there's videos coming out every day that my Russian people are sending me.
For example, I think I mentioned it, a Ukrainian lawmaker in a Ukrainian room with Ukrainian people debating an issue.
He was a local lawmaker.
And the guy is so brainwashed or dead, he pulls the pin of three grenades and just drops them in the room because he's tired of the debate.
And the three grenades go off and kill like two people and cripple a whole bunch of others.
He does it nonchalantly, like he's dropping tennis balls out of a can.
Yeah, like a zombie.
Yes, that's exactly what we have coming, are these zombified Ukrainians.
And I don't mind saying most of all the Ukrainians I've ever met Have had a few brain cells missing, the elevator doesn't go to the top floor, they're a couple cans short of a six-pack, whatever you want to call them.
There's something not quite right with these people.
Hills have eyes, but that's the reality.
And it's been told to me, you know, Russians, Scott, that's our, that's our Thailand.
Ukraine is a backwater.
So yeah, there are always good people everywhere, but as a macro society, that country is is hills have eyes, deliverance, retardation.
Okay, well, I'm going to ask this question of Jim because it was for Nick Kohlstrom, and it's basically a comment and a question.
Could you make this presentation to be available on Rumble or Substack so we can distribute to those who absolutely are convinced that Russia started the war without any justification?
Can you comment on that, Jim?
Yeah, we should have all the presentations up next week.
That's my intention.
And they'll be up multiple places, so we'll let you know.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That would include on my blog, my BitChute channel, and elsewhere.
And I intend to put a good number of them on Twitter as well, at Jim Fetzer.
They'll be available in relatively short order.
I'd say within 10 days.
Wonderful.
So great.
And folks, they'll be up on Jim's website.
They will also be up on the regular website for the conference.
And any other place we can get them, they'll be there.
Okay, just so you know that.
And thank you to every one of the presenters for letting us do that, because we got to get the word out about what's really going on in the world, don't we?
So let me see here now.
This was a question about for Jim, but we're going to bypass that for now.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, this is long and I'm not going to do it, but basically I'm going to ask this question of every one of you, and I know it's kind of going off topic, but they're asking about it.
They want to know more about everybody's perspective on the transgender agenda and the indoctrination of children in the schools.
I know that wasn't our thing here, but it's related to how these different governments and the mind control, basically, that Scott was talking about.
So, why don't we start with Ron?
Does it relate to your topic in any way, shape, or form, this whole transgender agenda that's going on in the United States?
That's just more corruption of the values, Christian values.
And that's well underway, and it has been underway for a long time.
And unfortunately, it's these people that call themselves Jews but deny the King of the Jews.
They always associate themselves with homosexuals and sexual perversion and all of that.
I'm just sick of that.
In fact, that's one of the things they said they were doing in Gaza.
They didn't permit all these bizarre sexual aberrations.
They didn't like that.
They were fighting Gaza to defend the LGBTQ community, which I think is totally absurd.
They're reaching out for everybody.
To get them to join them in their destruction of Gaza.
I don't know what else to say about it.
Okay.
Russ, what's your take on this?
Yeah, it's a form of MKUltra, psychic driving.
It's generational in nature.
It's not really directed at people in our generation.
It doesn't have any effect on us.
But the younger generation is very much affected by it and probably will have a major impact on their lives.
Yeah, I agree.
Scott, I know you're very adamant about this topic.
Well, I look at it from a variety of standpoints, but you know, Russ is right.
It's directly being amplified on a younger generation.
If you corrupt the sexual nature and the sexual dimension, you corrupt the individual.
So there's a diabolical devil It's the nuclear bomb of destruction of the individual, and it creates insanity.
It creates schizophrenia.
That's what sexual transgenderism is.
Sexual schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia is the splitting of the personality.
All of this has a diabolical spiritual reason for this happening.
And they're, you know, it's you hear it incrementally coming in with kids, you know, between zero and 30, let's say.
But in the 14th, you know, between middle school and high school, the popular slogans, the fruit of this philosophy of transgenderism and gayness and all this is love is love.
I hear that from my niece sometimes and I about go apoplectic because I see all of the destruction inherent in that philosophy.
So it's a population reduction.
I think we had some other conversations earlier last night.
If you corrupt sexual relationships, if you corrupt sexual intimacy, if you remove spiritual union with sexual union, you don't have healthy relationships.
You don't have any relationships.
You have a brave new world, a mechanical union.
And, you know, so there's a sick dehumanization associated with it.
But it's rejected.
The good news is it's rejected by Russia, by Africa, by Asia.
The only countries that are really embracing it are the United States and Britain.
And the Jewish influence, the Zionist influence is pushing that in America.
That's why every day I see us closer to a violent civil war where tribally people are going to rise up.
This has been said to me, I'll end it by saying this.
Stephen Pidgeon, a very good constitutional attorney that I know well, we always talk every week.
He said, Scott, be prepared to see school members and others who push this stuff hanging by their necks dead in the coming days, weeks, months, years.
As civil war unfolds, people aren't going to tolerate it anymore.
They're not going to put up with this because it's a disease of madness that is causing nothing but harm.
So we're going to witness a lot of violence pushing back against that.
Yeah.
Go ahead for Ron.
Yeah, Ron, go ahead.
Yeah, I'd like to add one other thing too, because I've always said after I kind of understood this, is that people don't know what sex they are and they are sexually confused.
That's one of the most basic primary things in life.
If you can't figure out what sex you are, you certainly can't figure out what civil lawful civil government is.
And that's what this is all about.
These people are scared to death.
That people are going to come together in consensus and say we have unlawful government and it's time for us to have lawful government and all that unlawful stuff is going to get out of here.
Well, see, they create all of these contentions among society, and these people think they're fighting for their freedom, their sexual freedom.
They've been so disturbed now with all this, they can't figure out what a lawful government is or what the problem is.
And that was all engineered.
Exactly.
Jim, I can tell you're chomping at the bit.
Go ahead.
When I was hired as a full professor at the Duluth campus, the University of Minnesota chair was Jewish, and we had conversations about Christianity and Judaism, and he observed Christianity has a lot of constraints about Sex, but no constraints about food.
Well, Judaism has a lot of constraints about food, but no constraints about sex.
And there are a couple of relevant comments in the chat.
Lewis, for example, most probably know that Tel Aviv claims to be the gay GBTQ capital of the universe, and I suspect that's exactly true.
And in addition, I would observe That another commentator talked about cultural Marxism.
It's an attack on the family as the core to American culture, and if they can destroy the family, they can undermine the fabric of society.
It's got to do with taking down all the statues that are monuments to our history, destroying our identity.
Most of those were forms of reconciliation between the North and the South.
Well, they've done a brilliant diagnosis—social psychologists, psychiatrists—a bit to try to exacerbate racism in America, because it was an ancient fault line, and they're trying to resurrect it.
That's part of what George Floyd was all about.
And, you know, going apace, this equity thing is based on the absurd premise that every human being is interchangeable with every other human being, that there really isn't a sexual difference or athletic difference or intellectual difference, even though it's manifestly obvious.
Just look at the percentage in the pro sports.
Blacks are better athletes.
Whites are better intellects.
I mean, it's very clear-cut.
Historically, just look around you, but they want to deny it.
And they even want to go so far as to deny the distinction between male and female.
I mean, it's an absurdity.
And it takes a bat to the Voltarian observation that those who can induce us to believe absurdity can promote us to commit atrocities.
I mean, it's all unbelievably awful, but by design.
Just wait till you get to be my age and start having prostate problems.
I left my prostate at zero.
I mean, think about it.
I mean, I think about it.
I've had some pretty serious prostate problems, including surgery.
Are you thinking about changing sex then?
I mean, I've been thinking what it would have been like if I'd had a sex change.
Is it too late?
I was really being a mess then.
Well, it's also decimating our military, our military psychologically, and just as a functioning tribe.
Remember, a military is like a football team.
And, you know, before, in the old days, you had real manly men, all men, on the football team.
And now, over 40, 50 years, you've got women in the football team.
Well, it's not as good as a football team as it was.
Now you've got to protect women.
And you worry about women getting raped on the field.
And that degrades its functionality, and now you've got the homosexual inference in there.
So the whole unraveling of the esprit de corps tribalism warrior ethos has been corrupted, and homosexuality in a sense is like a fever, and no one really wants to talk about it.
I studied this when I was at the Heritage Foundation under Rob Rector and Pat Fagan, I know all about the social science dimensions of this.
It's a fever that becomes almost consuming.
That's the only thing they can think about and do.
They'll never admit it.
So now you're no longer about killing the enemy.
You're about, well, maybe the enemy's kind of cute.
Well, maybe I could, and suddenly, and as ridiculous as it sounds, that's the schizophrenia that picks in.
So I'll end it by saying, imagine going against Russia or China.
Or any modern warrior or army that doesn't tolerate that.
The United States will be decimated in any kind of a war because all things being equal, and nuclear weapons and technology essentially is equal except Russia has better missiles, the United States is done militarily.
And then you amplify the open borders and the Hispanics that are going to be coming in and they're going to put them in the military.
This country is going to go into a civil war like we don't have the imagination to imagine.
Let me just pick up where Scott left off.
I think he's absolutely right.
When you got a woke military, it loses its appeal for the young patriotic, largely Southern boys who really believe in America.
But they're not going to take showers with trannies.
I mean, give me a break.
We cannot make, none of the services are making their quotas.
And you got Dick Durbin, Sinisterly suggesting we want to create a path to citizenship for illegals by their serving in our military, which is basically turning our military over to the most populous group coming in now, which happens to be the Chinese.
They're all young.
They're all fit.
They've got hotels on the way.
This is all totally planned.
Give all those Chinese a path to citizenship.
And of course, they're not going to have any problem shooting Americans when Biden wants to declare martial law.
And remember, they built up this whole category of domestic terrorism over the fabricated events of January 6.
So if there is a civil war, Conservatives, Trump supporters, men can all be viewed as terrorists and shot on the spot.
If you're a terrorist, you're not even entitled to a trial by a jury.
That's why they had to make Hamas out to be terrorists.
They can shoot Hamas and it appears they're doing that.
They're lining them up by big pits and they're shooting them in the back of the head and killing them outright.
That's what they want to do to us.
Agreed.
Okay.
Scott, there's one other question for you here and then I'm going to go to Russ.
There is a question about, this person wants to know if you know if Zelinsky is coached or handled by Netanyahu.
Do you think that they're buddy buddies?
No, I don't think he's coached.
He's got British SAS as his bodyguard, so the British have handled him, and then the American CIA handled him.
But I think all the handling is quickly kind of dissipating.
I think he's becoming too hot of a potato, and they're looking to get rid of him.
I predict this.
They're going to kill him, and I thought they were going to kill him and Biden at the same time, so they could replace him with Gavin Newsom.
I absolutely believe Newsom is going to be Biden's replacement, but I think they're going to replace Zelensky.
They're going to kill him.
I don't think they could have him alive, even if they did plastic surgery.
I mean, he's too much of a liability.
But if they kill Zelensky, I predict they're not going to replace him with Zeluzny or another military official.
They're going to raise up a female parliamentarian, and there's a couple candidates, because they're now going to throw themselves on the, like the Chinese guy who stood in front of the tank in 1994, remember that?
They're going to throw up a woman parliamentary saying, we're all Slavic, we're all Ukrainians, let's stop the war, let's all get along, isn't the time of bitterness past, as the Samuel the Prophet said back in the Old Testament.
So they're going to get rid of Zelensky and replace him with someone to try and do a 38 parallel.
Freeze the war so they can do another Minsk agreements and they don't realize that the Russians are Russians.
They don't mince words.
They don't play around.
They're not going to get fooled again.
They don't get attracted to little faggot asses and rainbow flags.
The Russians are a very orthodox Christian, simple people, and Putin is representing that, so they're going to push all the way to Polish border, but they are going to try and replace Zelensky with a female parliamentarian.
I believe after they kill him and they they may they may try and do it in America because they're they're they're already plotting for a kind of gulf of Tonkin moment they need it they need to create a war to create the U.S. police state very good okay Okay, Russ, there's a comment, and maybe you can comment on the comment.
This person says, I can personally verify that Israel has always used Arabs or Arab Jews as tools to intermingle with the Palestinians and other Arabs to destroy them.
Do you want to expand upon what you said previously?
That's kind of what I was saying before.
It's absolutely correct.
And they can bring them on from very early ages.
They can get orphans, a lot of Iraqi orphans, Lebanese orphans.
Think of all the orphans there were from 1982.
You don't think the Israelis haven't been picking the smart kids and getting them, because the appearance is what really matters, and the accents.
And then they can indoctrinate them.
And they do that all over the Middle East.
That's one of the ways they control the Middle East.
Thank you for expanding upon that.
I'm looking for more questions here.
the Donmans up in Turkey.
Yes.
Use that approach.
But anymore, there's so many orphaned kids and they can use that approach as well.
Wonderful.
Thank you for expanding upon that.
I'm looking for more questions here.
Jim, am I missing any?
Well, there's one about my Sandy Hook case there, but I don't know if you want to address that at this point in time or not.
Why don't we save that?
Because we can a little later, we can go into that if you'd like.
Okay, there's a comment up here about in the first days that reported that there were 50 dead, then 100, the next day that it rose again.
This is confirmed by Norman Finkelstein.
Do you have such information?
I think this is for maybe Russ and Scott.
I'm not sure, but this was the first day of the Hamas attack.
October was its seventh.
They kept saying that there were more and more and more dead.
I think the comment is around, can we believe what's coming out of there as reports?
And have you guys looked into that to see who's right, who's wrong, what really happened on the first day?
If it's an Israeli source, you cannot believe it!
Exactly!
I know, but I kind of want to get Scott and Russ's opinion about whether they They realized early on that first day, first hours, whether we were getting any kind of truth out of this.
Russ, you go first.
Well, the first impressions they want to make is the brutality of it all.
Raping women, beheading babies, throwing all that out there.
So they were more concerned with that narrative than they were the numbers.
Well, then that story started to break down and being debunked in reasonable channels.
But they're pretty much In the heads of the fanatics, you know, the people are looking for some excuse to, for genocide.
And then they start with the numbers.
And then, as I said, in my presentation, even the main spokesman, spokesman, more notorious guy came out and admitted, well, we found a lot of bodies and we just didn't realize who they all were.
You know, they were burned up because you guys used 28 Apache helicopters to shoot the whole place up.
Just roast people.
Russ, do you think they could have used directed energy weapons, too?
I don't know.
I think they just used Apaches.
Those are those are nasty, nasty weapons.
Like Christmas, like we had at La Hena.
But the Apaches are good because, you know, it fits in with what the response should be, right?
You should have like a military response.
All of a sudden, these Apache show up.
There's no command and control.
They're running amok.
The reporting is kind of vague of what they're really doing.
You know, they're reported to be at the festival.
And then you can see the effects on the cars where they just burned a bunch of cars.
So, no, I don't think it was directed energy.
I think it was Apache helicopters and these Hellfire missiles just being blasted away.
I mean, they just, they really love to fire weaponry.
They're doing it in Gaza.
And as zero generals have admitted, if we were not providing them with that weaponry, with those planes, those bombs, the artillery shells, they could not be carrying out the slaughter.
This music festival was a rave.
Raves are where people take ecstasy and dance around like, you know, wild drunken Indians.
All night, yeah.
All night.
So, it's a very target-rich, shooting-fish-in-a-barrel environment.
The whole thing was a PSYOP.
The whole thing was a setup.
You know, the public consciousness is not absorbing and swallowing these events anymore, as we were in 2001.
So there's been a spiritual, conscious evolution out of this.
Our receptors are almost, you know, numb or immune to these things.
But the fanatics, as Russ said, believe their own lies.
They believe their own emotional, you know, vomiting.
If they scream like stuck pigs, then everybody's going to get scared and accept it.
And the opposite occurs.
So everything is real, and whoever planned it, all of it was set up, all of it was for a larger operation.
They've totally miscalculated.
And look at right now, what's happened.
October 7th is no longer even relevant.
Nobody even remembers it.
What people are remembering are the women and children that are buried under concrete that are being destroyed in Gaza.
That's the only topic of conversation.
No one cares about October 7th.
And the more it's looked at, and the more Israeli pilots and former pilots are coming out going, wait a minute, I was in the IDF, how the hell did this happen?
There is no way we would have allowed someone to come through.
We've got cameras, we're so sophisticated, people are already talking like that, so the snowball is only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
And like Russ said, all those cars, Well, you know, that doesn't happen by a bunch of... First of all, I don't think Palestinian Gazans even know how to fly those little electrolyte devices.
But no, that doesn't happen.
This is an Israeli operation.
But what you're seeing now is the world backlashing against it.
And you see Turkey, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Africa, Indonesia, Iraq, all of these Muslim countries, and Russia and China, All maneuvering to, I mean, isolate Israel.
So, McGregor said that, Ritter said that.
This could end up totally imploding on Israel.
And if the United States steps in to try and save it, and that's where I disagree with McGregor, when he says, well, I believe we ought to save—fuck Israel!
I don't care if the whole goddamn country goes down and burns because they deserve it.
The whole Israeli nation could be consumed in the blowback about all of this stuff.
Very, very easy.
I think McGregor's more about, I told you so.
That's more what he's saying.
I warned you.
I warned you.
Well, Scott Ritter has been really explicit that Netanyahu's career is done.
By the time this is over, he may be tried and hanged because he put the very existence of Israel at stake to benefit himself.
This man is the ultimate narcissist.
He's tried to revise the Constitution of Israel and the role of judiciary just to save himself from punishment he deserves.
And the question in Scott Ersmine is whether Israel itself is going to continue to exist, and there are multiple scenarios under which that is not going to happen—that Israel will be destroyed.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Now we have a couple more comments here, and maybe we can all expand upon these comments, but I'm not really getting many questions.
The first one is directed at Scott, but I want to ask everybody else who they would like to get in In the fray of negotiation.
So, Scott, they're saying, why can't the U.S.
get a normal person like you to deal with the Russians?
Well, I kind of think you're already there dealing with the Russians, and you're not doing... are you doing it on behalf of the U.S., or are you doing it just for you?
I mean, let's... I'm not going to go into that.
Okay, okay, that's fine.
No problem.
Bad guys are always listening and I like to sigh out them in every way I possibly can.
But suffice it to say, Russia and Iran are not threats to the American people or to the American government.
Russia in particularly is going to be rising up as the leader of the world in the multipolar world in the BRICS nations.
They're all going to back Russia.
China is a two dimensional mechanical robotic people, culture and psychology.
The Russians are not.
So the Chinese are going to acquiesce and allow Russia to assume the political diplomacy leadership.
China has a role as a cat's paw of Russia, and I think you had said it earlier too, they will be stepping in to serve in the same diplomatic capacity as they did between Saudi Arabia and Iran, but we're witnessing a very interesting machine rise up, and that is Russia, it's in charge of the BRICS nations,
All of Africa is falling all over themselves in love with Russia, and so will all of Asia, the Middle East, we'll see how China goes, we'll see how Pakistan goes, but Europe, France, Germany, Britain, I predict France and Germany are going to fall back in love with Russia like the prodigal son returning to the prodigal father because they're going to freeze to death and have nothing to eat but bugs and hamsters, while Britain
I think is going to go the same way of America.
They're going to go into their own self-constructed police state, and you're going to see rising up in civil war in Britain and in America that I'm confident conservatives will always win, because one conservative is worth a thousand liberal, leftist, godless, schizophrenic, sexually confused Democrats.
Ron, your take on this?
What do you think about anybody going over to negotiate with Russia at this point?
Oh, I have no comment about that.
How about Israel?
What do you think about that?
Do you think that they're going to use religion as a way to save themselves?
Because you do have a religious slant on all this.
What's your take?
Oh, I really don't know.
Um, I really wasn't listening to that too, too much.
So I don't really know quite what we're talking about.
No problem.
No problem.
Russ, I can tell Russ is chomping at the bit there.
Not really.
There's just, the thing is that the people that the United States have, it's just hopeless.
I mean, the infestation and infiltration is so deep and, you know, maybe buried away in some corner of the state department.
There's some decent individuals, but how are you ever going to locate them?
You know, is Donald Trump going to find him?
I doubt it.
I mean, look at his first administration.
Okay, now Ron.
Go ahead, Ron.
Well, something popped into my head.
I think I know kind of what you're talking about.
Let me just tell you quickly what I actually believe about all these governmental problems.
I believe that the United States of America is completely dissolved and unlawful.
Yes.
And most everybody in it, these people that are seeking these offices, they either don't know what they're doing, they don't know anything about government, they don't know what the limitation of authority is, they don't know anything.
I've run for office for U.S.
House against two Democrats, lawyers, and they didn't know what government was.
They didn't know how to do it.
That's not what they learn in law school.
They don't learn the principles of property that regulate every aspect of government.
We have people in government that don't know what they're doing or what they should be doing.
And I suspect that a lot of these other countries are like us.
I think our biggest problem in the whole world is the global, the Antichrist global bankarchy.
They have gotten into all of these countries and they are literally running it by making them borrow money from them to exist.
And that's really what America is.
We are begging these Antichrist bankers to live from day to day, borrowing more money to keep going, all this debt currency.
And we have to do what they say and what they want us to do or they cut our currency off.
We don't have any money left.
So, I mean, this And until all the nations of the world, or a great many of them, get together on what lawful government consists of and what lawful economies are, you can't have fraudulent currency and then claim you have a lawful economy.
We don't have a lawful economy in America either.
It's all fraud.
You know, you said something fascinating there, Ron.
I just wanted to add this.
One of the things we've been trying to figure out, and you kind of nailed it in a very good economic term, is the economy of revolution.
What are the economics of revolution?
How does it start?
Where does it go?
It's almost like when you open up a floodgate.
Where does the water go?
How does it, you know, go down certain areas and carve out creeks and carve out little runs?
You know, how does this impact all of society?
That's the thing to start to really think about and study because It's inevitable.
What you're mentioning, we've been talking about.
Okay, these firecrackers are going to go off in the sky.
When?
We don't quite know, but there's got to be an economic collapse of the petrodollar.
There's got to be a social earthquake, when Hispanic, Mexican, third world people who are now police officers start to try and arrest or shoot, like Jim's talking about, Trump supporters.
There's got to be all of these mini explosions.
How do we map out the economics of revolution to try and figure, like the churches, how How are the churches going to behave and react?
What's going to metastasize out of that?
How are the schools?
How are the police departments?
Are the police departments going to offend the citizenry?
Because if they do, they're a bunch of dead men in uniform and it won't be long What are the veterans going to do?
I can tell you what veterans will do, and Jim Fetch will agree.
We will stand on our oath, and stand on the Second Amendment, stand on the Constitution, and not bow down, retreat, or surrender to anybody that we perceive as a threat to the Constitution.
And all of these things will start to emerge, and that's where the deep state and the Democrats think they can control people.
They think if they have a lanyard and a government title that they can control people, put them into a FEMA camp, get them inoculated, and all this other stuff.
That may work for some people, but it doesn't work for conservative, Christian, traditionalist, Republican, Trump-supporting, patriot veterans.
We're made of different stuff.
We're made of steel.
They're made of wood.
We react differently in the environment of life.
So I would just put out one of the things we really need to think about and master is the economics of revolution.
And you can say another word, you know, revival, renaissance, transformation, American, you know, whatever, but there's something going to start to unfold in America from multiple positions, like fireworks going in the sky, exploding in different ways that we need to map out, so we're not surprised by anything, and we're able to control whatever, you know, whatever we face on every day.
I've got to say, Ron, I've got to say something.
Go ahead.
What we're missing right now as an organized group is the fact that we forgot that everybody in the United States was backing World War II from both sides.
We had big money behind all of our wars in World War I, World War II, the Revolutionary War.
You go back, every one of them was backed by somebody that was making sure that they won on both ends.
We don't have anybody giving us money to solve this problem.
We don't have anybody that is not evil solving this problem.
And the big foundations and the big money is really behind the bad guys.
They're a huge part of the problem.
So if we don't get our act together and find a way to find us a Bush or a Harriman or somebody like that... Nothing like that.
It's completely the opposite.
It's like... Well, what I'm saying is we got to find somebody with that kind of money to back us.
You know, I've given a lot of thought to this question, exactly what you're talking about.
And I've kind of wondered, how would that work?
And could that person even merge?
You know, is Elon Musk that person?
Yeah.
A little, maybe a little bit, but you know, I think they've got him, too.
I think one of our real problems, too, is the mass media cartel, which really prevents people from hearing what we're talking about right now and how to do things.
Uh, and this is the real the real problem we have on creating lawful government and I never like to use the word revolution because we've already had the revolution.
Our lawful form of government has been overthrown by the rebels.
that were sitting in the offices of those seats that we created.
And so what we are are victims of a revolution, and they've overthrown our government, and we're trying to create a lawful government.
That's the way I see our problem.
We have to figure out how to get out from under tyranny.
And there's a lot of anarchists out there today who don't even believe in lawful government or bother even to think about how to create one.
But the only defense to organized tyranny is lawful government.
And this means people.
What we're having to do is get to people's minds so they can figure this out.
And they know what freedom and liberty is, what lawful government is, and they reject anything that doesn't conform to that.
That's where we need to get.
And I think if the money might come, if they saw that the people are attracted to this, That the people are growing towards this, and people become hungry for liberty and freedom, and for lawful government.
I have to inject a really critical point, because we were talking about transgenderism a minute ago.
Really, the money behind transgenderism is the Pritzer family out of Chicago, a Jewish family.
Specifically, one of the sisters is a tranny, So she's got so much friggin' money, and she's just, you know, oh, I can make my own world, my own reality, and fund this group, and fund that group, completely outside the government, you know, just completely on her own, just create all these thousands of jobs, and create these industries around this stuff, you know, sex change, and hormone treatment, and on and on and on.
That's just one bad person!
That's just one example of one issue we've been talking about.
And a lot of times it gets down to that.
I mean, the attention given to Bill Gates is exactly correct.
He's one very bad individual.
And until we get these very, very bad individuals under control, It doesn't matter what's going on politically or anywhere else.
Let me just end it by saying this.
What you said, Russ, is right.
That person, that demonically possessed lunatic woman, she lives in a certain county.
She lives in a certain house in a county.
And there's a sheriff and other leaders and veterans in that county that can put an end to her.
But in all sorts of ways, we'll always say constitutional and legally sound, but this is where things are going to take the spark that's going to occur.
I think this whole thing that Ronald was talking about, it's going to start on a local level.
Local people.
Like, if I went out in my town, and I got so pissed off, and I stood up in front of the library, and I would say, okay, I'm gonna say how it is, and I want everybody who hears my voice to come on my side.
And if you don't come to my side, you're an enemy.
You're an enemy of truth, you're an enemy of the family, you're an enemy of God, you're an enemy of everything good, sound, and moral.
And that's how you divide the sheep and the goats.
That's how this is gonna take off, is local levels.
Not federal, not the president, not the state.
We're going into, I think, a tribalized society where people with skin in the game who, you know, care about 10 miles by 10 miles, their family, their immediate—they don't care about what happens in the next state.
They want to maintain holiness and purity.
That's where this is going to rise up, and I think that's the answer to these wicked people like Russ is describing.
If I was a sheriff, I'd say, okay, let's get a posse, and we're going to go arrest this woman, and we're going to prosecute her for all sorts of crimes, and we'll see if she survives it.
That's how things are going to evolve, because You can't suffer this sort of abomination.
Look at the poison that she's creating in all sorts of ways.
I think we're going beyond the old way of, well, everybody has a right, everybody has due process of law, everybody has a right to appear in court.
In these circumstances, I don't think so.
I think we're in a life and death struggle.
Well, you know she's got control of the courts and the legal system in Cook County.
I think there's one other thing.
I think really big money will be watching who can control the people.
Because what this is really all about is how to control people.
Well, if liberty catches on and people study this, for instance, one thing that should be catching everybody's attention, and I've proved in court, is that Property taxes are unlawful in every state of the union.
And you can imagine what if people finally figure that out and find out that that's true.
Now, people with big money, which country would you rather be in?
One that protects your property and your money or one that is shoveling it off and giving it to other people?
And so I believe that if you had the ideas, the fundamental ideas of liberty and freedom and lawful government, principles of property, that would attract, that would actually attract money and people that want to defend what they have, their possessions that they've worked hard to get.
And I think that's even attracted to people that are pretty wealthy, as well as those that are, you know, just like myself.
So, I don't know.
I really don't have any big scheme for how to do this, but I know that there's a lot of pitfalls out there.
And what I really don't like is this terrorism thing.
All some country has to do to scuttle somebody's attempt to have a lawful government is to have a fake event.
Where they blame it on us, and we have no access to defend ourselves in the media, and they just attack us.
They could throw a bomb into China and say that the new people wanting freedom in America did that.
And then you've got China bombing you.
These countries have got to get off this terrorism crap.
They got to start studying every little event to where they say, we're not going to back anything until we do a year's study of what happened here.
Look how powerful it is in Gaza, even as ridiculous a story as it is.
I mean, I think I described something totally absurd, but look at the power of it.
Well, you guys gotta remember, Russ, it's the media that is projecting this all out there.
Trust me, if it wasn't on the TV every day, no one would care or know about it.
Right, Scott?
Yeah.
No, you're right, and that's the next question.
Are people from the media going to be killed?
Are they going to be grabbed, thrown out of their jobs?
Are their buildings going to be blown up?
Are they going to be—I mean, I think we're at a point where you very well could see people so upset by the lies and everything that the media has been doing, they could resort to all sorts of violence.
And I'm not trying—I don't want it.
But I know people are at the end of the rope.
Just imagine if there's an entire economic collapse and everybody loses everything in their bank account and they realize that their wife and their children and their mothers and their fathers are dead because of a shot that they were forced to get by media, by their churches, and by their government, and by their hospitals.
I think there's a reckoning coming for all of this wickedness that we have been subjected to since the COVID-19 2022.
I got a question for Scott.
Before we leave this, though, I got to make one comment.
Go ahead, Ron.
Mark Anderson and I have been on this, and we've come to the conclusion that people are going to the wrong places with their complaints about unlawful government.
They're going to their legislators.
They're going to their capitals.
I don't believe we ought to do that anymore, because the media never covers legitimate complaints before their representatives.
I think the people in mass, when they have a problem with government, ought to go to the media.
I want to hear Scott's opinion on this.
and not even let them out of the building until they cover their story.
Yeah, yeah.
And until they see it on television.
Because this thing of going to your representative, nobody even hears about it.
Yeah.
I want to hear Scott's opinion on this.
What do you think would happen if the United States had one of its major aircraft carriers sent to the bottom of the Red Sea or Eastern Mediterranean or something like that and some action, you know, some accident or some sabotage or something.
Oh, I guess they're going to do that.
I think they're going to do that.
It's going to be a deliberate hit blamed on Iran.
I have no doubt.
It's going to be a Gulf of Tonkin all over again, right, Scott?
Yep, that's exactly right.
What's going to be the reaction of the United States?
What will people in the United States do?
How will they react to that?
I would say the United States people are not going to react in the way that the elites want them to react.
The elites want them to get all sorts of World War II.
We're all in it together.
Now we all have to do the draft.
That's what they're going to try and do.
Initiate a draft, put on Uncle Sam's uniform, and go Fight like we did in World War I and World War II.
Ain't gonna happen.
People aren't gonna do that.
They're gonna go, we have no fucking reason for being over there in the first place.
We told you to get out of there.
We told you we didn't want our ships over there.
We told you we didn't want to be backing Israel and Ukraine, and now you've lost a ship or you've blown it up?
That's the other thing.
I think they'll clumsily do it where, like what they did in October 7th, They're going to get caught like, wait a minute, you just sank this ship or here's new video or there's whistleblowers coming out saying you did this intentionally.
They are going to try and sink a ship and initiate a conflict against Iran.
But here's the thing.
When I was in Russia, I was talking, the Russian said, we are not going to let Iran fall.
It's not in our game.
It's not in our strategy.
Iran will not fall.
Russia will stand and defend Iran.
And you will see the United States, we have nowhere to go but back to our own country.
We're going to get our asses kicked out of Central Command, out of Africa, out of Germany, out of Stuttgart.
All of the NATO U.S.
bases, they're all going to be retracted.
We're going to get kicked out of Iraq.
We're going to get kicked out of Syria.
Because as McGregor said, we're going to start getting attacked.
We're going to get, the heat is going to be amplified.
So they are going to try and do a Gulf of Tonkin, but it's going to blow back in their face.
And you won't see anybody sign up for a draft, I'll tell you that.
That's the big thing that they're hoping.
And I'll put it this way, I'm glad you raised that Russ, because the U.S.
Army has already tried to turn like 600 officers into recruiters.
Uh, in like an emergency motion.
And I told Jim what that tells me?
These recruiters are being trained to go into every town, every high school across America, and build rosters.
Get a list of every high school student So they could then turn that in for, you've been drafted into Biden's woke army and you're to report 30 days from now to go to Israel or to go to Ukraine.
That's what they're going to try and do, but it's not going to work.
And if they try it, you're only going to have a revolution in this country faster.
You guys, I hate to do this to you.
Yeah, it's now time to end this Q&A, which was absolutely amazing.
So thank you all for being here.
I really appreciate it.
And Scott, Russ, and Ron, and Jim.
So thank you, Jim, for filling in for Nick.
I really appreciate that.
And we'll be back in just a few minutes, folks, with our next speaker, Miriam Heinan.
Thanks, Maureen.
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