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Dec. 24, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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RUSS WINTER – The Israel-Hamas False Flag
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Well, welcome back to our false flag and conspiracy conference for our 3 p.m.
on our second day of our conference with Russ Winter.
Russ is an extremely active guy on the Internet.
He has a wonderful blog called Winter Watch.
He makes lots of appearances on shows.
I believe he has several shows of his own.
We've participated in many exchanges, and I was confident you want to hear what Russ has to say about the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
Russ, take it away.
Okay, the topic is the Israel-Hamas false flag, and it's funny that there hasn't been a whole lot of mention of this as a false flag, despite the fact that there's a lot of squirrely things going on.
So, to kind of get into this, similar to 9-11 and the Pearl Harbor narratives, The Hamas penetration in Israel has been characterized as quote-unquote an intelligence failure, and apparently nothing succeeds quite like failure.
So 9-11 was an intelligence failure that allowed the Patriot Act to be voted in without resistance or outcry, and then for expansion of war in the Middle East.
Pearl Harbor was an intelligence failure that put an end to the U.S.
isolationist sentiment and allowed entrance into World War II.
This one I would say is largely a Ethnic cleansing and or genocide operation of the people of Gaza.
Gaza itself is a very densely populated, narrow piece of land.
It's about 365 square kilometers.
It was believed that it was bugged and monitored far and wide by the IDF and intelligence services.
During the attack, explicably, that was not the case.
It's just like everything went dark.
Uh, I don't think that Hamas has the capability to take everything dark inside Gaza.
It's just not, uh, even a consideration.
So presumably Hamas somehow developed a system for coordination and communication, excluded electronic contacts, and somehow the Palestinians managed to hide everything from Israeli intelligence.
Shortly before the attack on checkpoints and cities on October the 7th, Hamas deployed MLRS, ground forces, noisy paragliders, and other equipment to position.
And essentially what they did is they had a small secret 400 fighter deployment.
Now allegedly there's about 30,000 active Hamas, so this actual operation would have been a tiny, tiny fraction of Hamas.
So the big campaign is against Hamas for committing this atrocity, but the reality is that very, very few people Even knew about it or participated in October 7th.
Now I have a, I have a illustration.
Can you see it on the, on the share?
the bulldozer?
Hello?
This is the penetration of one of the fence areas on October the 7th.
Very curious indeed that you would go up to one of the most heavily surveilled locations on the planet with a noisy bulldozer and just cut a nice clean little cut in that fence.
It's just like perfect.
Somehow I don't quite picture a fence being boiled, you know, Boiled over this matter.
I don't think I don't think it would just magically disappear and kind of separate apart apart.
Maybe get a little wire entanglement into it, but that's what we're asked to believe was the penetration of the fence.
So am I am I coming through?
I'm not getting any feedback.
Hello?
Okay.
Okay.
Very quiet.
Sorry.
So next, the electronic systems at the border, the Israelis invested billions of dollars in equipping were entered useless.
Numerous cameras and sensors also did not detect and stop the Hamas attack.
Oddly, Israeli combat controls were not present.
Amas drones were easily able to hit automatic machine guns and sensor towers and the assault teams calmly blew up the fence across the border.
Amas did not bypass any IDF fortifications bases.
They aggressively stormed checkpoints and bases where armored cars were located.
It's still unclear where the sentries, the security guards on duty and cover forces were located at the time.
All the communities near the fence, especially when it comes to a region like the Gaza Strip, must have plans in place in the event of an escalation of conflict.
However, no organized warning or evacuation was carried out.
The local security forces turned out to be so few in number and poorly armed that they were quickly eliminated by Hamas.
And then we have the paragliders.
To me, the paragliders is what I would call a black magic towel.
And so they have these allegedly paragliders with armed Hamas flying in unimpeded.
Now the IDF does have 40 millimeter anti-aircraft autocannons, but those are nowhere in sight.
All over southern Israel, you know, in the area of the Gaza crossing.
But those wouldn't even need to be flown, as flyers could be brought down with small arms fire, so the whole scene is absurd on its face.
So here we can see the Hamas footage.
stage.
Can I get one screen?
I actually think that the Israeli staff had a debate about this use of the paraglider scam, or FARS, and I think that some of the cooler heads within the IDF didn't want to do it, thinking it just was too much chutzpah, but I have a clip here of what actually happened And how the paraglider thing prevails.
So here's we have the real story of the Israelis doing a thumbs up on the paraglider routine.
Guess what?
I got a fever!
And the only prescription is more cowbell.
So that's the more Chutzpah meeting.
So until approximately noon on the 7th, the Israeli government showed virtually no response to the fighting.
And the most significant atrocity occurred at the Peace Rave concert at 8:00 AM on on Saturday morning.
So, first of all, holding a music festival five kilometers outside the biggest open-air prison in the world.
I got to give it to the organizers.
What a venue!
And this was attacked by the aforementioned paragliders.
Now, in reality, what happened that morning With the presence of Apache helicopters.
And this has sort of come, this is kind of hinted at early on, but I don't think the extent of the Apache operations was that well known.
There were apparently 28, yeah, 28 helicopters, seven platoons.
They fly four in formation.
They exhausted all their ammunition.
They fired off 448 Hellfire missiles and 30,000 rounds of 30 millimeter weapons.
So that's your explanation of why you had any kind of decent casualty count in this whole region.
Paragliders can't do this.
Here's the picture of... Okay, screen sharing the wreckage of the automobiles.
At the Rave concert?
That's not the work of Hamas shooters with AK-47 assault rifles or RPGs.
These things were toasted by Apache helicopters.
And they fire, they just fire willy-nilly.
I mean, the whole approach of Israel throughout this war, throughout this genocide, has been similar to the get some scene and full metal jacket.
So to understand the nature of everything that's happened in this war, I think this particular clip is illustrative.
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
haha anyone who runs is a bc Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC!
You guys ought to do a story about me sometime!
Why should we do a story about you?
Because I'm so fucking good!
That ain't no shit neither!
I've done got me 157 dead gooks killed.
And 50 water buffaloes too.
Them are all certified.
You need women or children?
Sometimes.
How can you shoot women and children?
Easy.
You just don't need them so much.
Ain't war hell.
No.
So as time has gone on through this conflict, if you want to call it that, one of the biggest problems Israelis are having combating Hamas is friendly fire.
And the killed in action of the Israelis is put at about 150.
I think it's underreported, but the number of wounded, especially serious wounded, is really high.
And, you know, we covered it yesterday in a show with Giuseppe and James Fetzer.
Just the way they operate in combat, they're just sloppy.
They just fire indiscriminately.
And I totally believe that that's what transpired on October the 7th.
So, who knows how many of the casualties were inflicted by the Israeli military itself.
My theory is that they let them in.
They decided to leave him in.
They did bring out the Apaches to pile up the body count a little bit, particularly at the rave and things like that.
As time goes on, different Israeli sources have come out and discussed, for instance, here's on this particular one, IDF pilot admits he may have killed civilians.
I chose such sergeant Targets that I could tell myself the chance that I would shoot at abductees here is low.
I tell you 100% it's not.
It's a Lieutenant Colonel ADF IDF Apache helicopter showing some people shot up on the war road.
The Apache helicopters pilots couldn't differentiate between Israelis and Palestinians, so they're kind of trying to make it look like it was kind of accidental.
I'm not so sure about that.
But they're quoted as saying, the pilots realized there was a tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian.
So you have to get a body count to justify a war.
You know, you can't just have, if the Hamas had come over and killed 50 people, then that doesn't quite justify it.
In their minds, the idea that 1,400 or 1,200 people Or whatever number they made up or actually occurred in the fog of war, then that justifies the genocide.
So here is what an Apache helicopter does.
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We'll see you next time.
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We'll see you next time.
Within three hours after the attack, some Apache pilots began firing without constant approval.
So they don't even have command and control.
They send up 28 of these lethal weapons without any idea what they're dealing with.
They operate for several hours and just, you know, completely clean out their ordinance and return to base, you know, after firing 448 Hellfire missiles and 30,000 rounds.
And then they act like this is all caused by Some kind of Hamas penetration of southern Israel.
And the reality, to any logical thinker, is completely different.
And so, some began to spray the terrorists with a cannon of their own without authorization from superiors.
You know, what a coinkydink.
Really?
You're just going to send out your patchy lieutenant colonels?
You know, high-ranking officers that are trained to use this stuff, and they just Act on their own to just fire willy-nilly at concert goers.
And so, all the investigations of this stuff has just been put on hold while this genocide goes on.
You know, they don't want to upset the apple cart.
Within Israel itself, there's people asking questions.
There's people talking.
There's different people in the kibbutzes.
They're talking about the tanks coming in and firing.
They're talking about crossfires.
Some of the hostages have been released, talked about being attacked by Apache helicopters when they're returning to Gaza.
It's called the Hercules Doctrine, and it's not a very sound doctrine.
It just basically says, kill the hostages.
Very odd philosophy.
Here's an Israeli colonel that's firing at his own people in this video showing a nervous Golan Vach disclosing IDF tanks fired at Jewish homes and civilians during Hamas takeover of Bera Kibbutz because they were blocked in these houses and we needed to conquer this settlement back.
So here's this Israeli talking about it.
Power tanks attack.
Fight on them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they were blocked in these houses, and we need to conquer back the whole settlement.
And it couldn't be happened without our tanks.
Get some.
Further testimonies by Israeli soldiers crew, the Israeli Apache as well as tanks responsible for killing Israelis in Gaza's envelope settlements on October 7th.
Israel claims that Hamas attacked the settlers and committed murders and rapes, while the resistance movement stressed it only attacked Israeli military sites in these settlements.
So quite a few accounts.
Before the event even happened, there was some interesting...
Prescience.
And CNN actually reported it, so let me run this for you.
Welcome back.
Well, research into financial trading activity in the days before the October 7th terror attack suggests some traders may have had advanced knowledge of what was coming and made money off of it.
So this is a lot like 9-11, where because a big profit opportunity for somebody in the know, which is Just how these guys roll, you know, they get a little inside information, they try to parlay it into a money-making operation.
...by law professors at Columbia and New York Universities details, in their words, a significant and unusual spike five days before the Hamas attacks.
Matt Egan is covering the story for us from New York and joins us with more on this.
So, Matt, walk us through some of the irregularities in trading that led to this alarming conclusion.
Yeah, Biana, this research is shocking.
So what happened is the professors, they went and they sifted through the trading activity in the days before the October 7th attack.
And what they found was startling.
A spike in bets against the value of Israeli companies.
What they did here was they found an increase, an unusual increase in short-selling activity.
That's a way to bet that the price of something will go down.
Sort of like in the big short, the Michael Lewis book and movie that was about the housing crash.
Except here, they're not betting against housing, they're betting against Israel's economy.
And so they found this unusual Short selling activity, not in one place, but in multiple places, including a popular ETF, the MSCI Israel ETF.
That's essentially a way to bet on Israel's economy, as well as options trading and dozens of Israeli companies that trade in Tel Aviv.
Now, what's so interesting here is that the researchers, they didn't find anything like this kind of spike in short selling against Israel at any time in recent history.
Right, not during the 2020 COVID crisis, not during the 2014 Israel-Gaza war, not even during the 2008 financial crisis.
They actually found that on October 2nd, five days before the terror attacks, that there was more short-selling activity against Israel than in 99.5% of all All day since 2009.
99.5%.
Now let me read you a key line from this paper.
The researchers wrote that, taken together, our evidence is consistent with informed traders anticipating and profiting from the Hamas attacks.
In other words, someone knew something and they made money off of it.
Now, we should note that this research is preliminary.
It is not peer reviewed.
And it really does leave us with more questions than answers.
They don't know who made these trades.
They don't know on what basis they made these trades.
But, Bianna, you've got to think that regulators are going to be asking these very questions.
Yeah, well, that's what I was just going to ask you.
Welcome back.
Well, research into financial.
Here's a clip of overrunning the border.
They just simply drove into Israel.
Where's the Israeli army?
Are they intentionally allowing them to enter?
That's my theory.
I think they were actually infiltrated.
Probably the 400 Vanguard group had some Israeli agents in there and they arranged to just open up or find some gaps in the fences to create and just allow them in.
Here they are just He's driving right into his car.
Stop it.
- Damn. - Damn. - Damn. - Damn.
Here we go.
Here's an interview on Israeli radio with a survivor of one of these attacks in a kibbutz.
And the interviewer says, the terrorists shot them?
And Porat, who's one of the And you can see right there, if you actually want to hear the words, I don't speak Hebrew, obviously, but they're translated into English.
"Very heavy crossfire, Golan.
"So our forces may have shot them?
"Forat, undoubtedly." And you can see right there, if you actually want to hear the words, I don't speak Hebrew obviously, but there's translated into English.
This is from Israeli state radio interview on August the 15th, giving clues about what really happened.
The commander of one of the bases who was subsequently killed, One of the guys killed during all this.
Here he is, this guy.
Brigadier Avi Rosenfeld.
Ordered an attack on his own base on October the 7th.
The division was compelled to request an aerial strike against the base itself in order to repulse the terrorists.
This is from Horetz.
This guy was killed And this is probably where the biggest casualties occurred among the IDF attacking their own base.
So, you know, this hasn't been very correctly processed into the larger picture of what's happened.
It's all been laid at the feet of Hamas.
Now, Hamas doesn't know what happened.
The Iranians didn't know what happened.
They all said as much.
Hezbollah said, you know, we weren't in on this operation.
We had no idea it was taking place.
They just woke up one morning and there they are.
And next thing you know, the Israelis are leveling Gaza.
The commanders in the field made difficult decisions, including shelling houses of their own occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.
Tanks blasted homes while captives were potentially inside.
I arrived at Beria to see Brigadier General Barak Hiram.
The first thing he asked me is to fire a shell into a house where Hamas was sheltering.
He says, the first question that comes to your mind, are there hostages there?
We did all the preliminary checks before we decided to fire a shell into the house.
If Hamas was in this house, how did the IDF confirm there were no hostages?
And here's kind of the famous Kind of notorious spokesman for the Israelis, speaking on the matter.
We had the number at 1,400 casualties, and now we've revised that down to 1,200 because we understood that we'd overestimated.
We made a mistake.
There were actually bodies that were so badly burnt, we thought they were ours.
In the end, apparently, they were Hamas terrorists.
Understood.
When we make a mistake, we admit it.
We had the number at 1,400 casualties.
The numbers that were later identified as burnt Hamas terrorists is about 300.
So that just keeps throwing the count off and corning you into more and more responsibility for the casualties that were taking place.
They're just killing everybody.
They're killing Hamas.
They're killing their own people.
They're killing their own soldiers because it's all for effect.
October 7th is all for effect, for massive propaganda effect.
And a justification to commit genocide.
Here's released Israeli captives telling Netanyahu's war cabinet how they were deliberately attacked by Israeli helicopters.
So this stuff is just, you know, it gets reported.
It's out there, but the mainstream media in America doesn't report on it at all.
It's just like a complete blackout on how this all really transpired.
So that, I've kind of gone through it all.
I mean, I don't think there's too much really bears repeating.
This is a good little illustration of it.
Just open this image.
So the spokesman says, when you're told Apache helicopters killed many Israelis on October 7th, and then when you see pictures of the cars, the guy's expression completely changes.
And we all saw the pictures of the cars and the damage and the bodies and the wreckage.
And then there's also a brief clip of Apache helicopters literally firing on people down below, undetermined.
There's no feedback.
or AMOS or whatever.
It's just bodies down below.
They can't make good ID on them.
So I'll go back to the main screen.
Stop share.
Did everybody hear that?
Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah, just no feedback.
I'm in an echo chamber down in the bowels of the earth.
There's no feedback at least.
Yeah.
So, so you finished?
That's your presentation?
Yeah, half hour's good.
I don't need to drag this on.
Okay.
Unless you have any questions, we have time for that.
Well, normally we'd be doing the Questions after the four presentations about both of the wars, but we could of course entertain questions too now.
Let me see if we got any here in the Q&A.
Russ, is there evidence of dead bodies?
Here's one.
Good question.
Are you actually seeing dead bodies or are you seeing dummies?
You know, you never really know in these events.
A lot of events I've looked at, Jim as well, you have that kind of staging going on.
But no, I think there was actually people killed.
This is a true false flag.
I don't think they faked anything.
I think they wanted dead people.
That's why they brought the Apaches in.
Those Apaches, you know, if you want me to Play that again for you?
Just kick the shit out of everything!
Why were they even out there?
Why were they taking 28 Apaches out there?
Why was that the choice of weapons to interdict this?
Not very delicate.
Russ, don't you think they wanted to run up a body count and attribute it to Hamas so they could have a greater justification for the slaughter in Gaza?
Precisely.
Yeah.
Yeah, and they can make any body count up they want.
I mean, there's no way for them to pick any number they want, and then they picked a number, and then they had to come down because people were kind of checking up on the story.
The Israeli media is a little different.
They're not locked down quite as much as the U.S.
media.
I don't think, I don't know if it's necessarily like the corporate umbrella over the Israeli media, and there's a lot of like independent types.
There's one Israeli, former Israeli IDF Lady that used to guard these same fences 10 years ago, who's been very active and has had a couple excellent podcasts on this, saying the same thing I am, that there's no way they could have just walked through.
so the israeli media is not well controlled so things kind of slip out well let me see if we have any other questions right now now.
Russ, I think we'll just-- Grab it up.
There's a catch for people who may have been wanting-- I don't know, is Ron Avery here?
We could plug in Ron early, I suppose, and move forward.
Gary, have we got Ron here?
Yeah, I can get him up right now.
Just give me a second.
Here he comes.
The only quandary I have is for people who might have tuned in for a specific presentation, so maybe we should just take a longer break.
Gary, do you have a thought?
Lorian isn't back yet, is she?
I don't think so, but yeah, we can take a little break before the question and answer.
Well, we got Ron first before the question and answer, so I misspoke earlier when I said to Nick one hour.
I should have said two.
In fact, I just called him in the UK and explained I was an hour off.
It's going to be a little late for him, but I think he's going to try to make it, but no guarantees.
I think we better just stay on schedule and just take a longer break right now.
Russ, thank you very, very much.
After Ron's, we'll have Scott and you and Nick and Ron for the question period.
So, everyone, we're going to have a longer break now.
Go ahead and have dinner.
This will be perfect.
The timing is actually pretty good for that.
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