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Need to Know News, July 03, 2023, with Carl Herman, Chris Weinert and Alex Newman
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This is Carl Herman from Mission Viejo, California, joined by Chris Weiner in Fort Myers, Florida, and Alex Newman in an island off of the Baltic.
And we're very pleased to join today with Alex.
Alex, why don't you talk about Liberty Sentinel?
I just pulled it up on screen for our viewers to be able to see it and whatever else that you would like to do to introduce yourself.
Well, thank you, gentlemen.
So Liberty Sentinel is my organization.
I've had it since since college, started off as a college newspaper and ended up turning it into a consulting firm.
Now it's kind of an eclectic mix of stuff that I post there.
And we've got a newsletter and do some other things.
I'm also senior editor at the New American Magazine.
I do a weekly education blog over at Freedom Project Media.
I'm a contributor to a lot of different publications, including the Epoch Times.
And I do a number of different shows, including a daily show on Lyndell TV called The Sentinel Report that gets picked up by some other ones, including Brighteon and others.
And then I do a weekly show for American Media Periscope.
called Liberty Hour, a monthly show called Focal Point, and I'm the executive director of Public School Exit.
It's been a real passion of mine for over a decade now, exposing the so-called education system, and so I've written books on that.
I've written books on the deep state, and yeah, as long as God gives me breath, I will continue to expose the evildoers.
Now serendipitously, I had just listened to an interview with James O'Keefe, I think this was just yesterday, with a similar path, that he began a publication from college and he continued that pathway.
So what was it that got you motivated in college to be able to write on your own?
Yeah, there's an interesting story with James O'Keefe.
Actually, I just interviewed him a couple weeks ago, and we talked about that, and I realized we had a very similar background.
There are very few people who do legitimate journalism today, and James O'Keefe is one of them.
And actually, that's the reason why we started a college newspaper, is because there was no legitimate journalism going on.
So, I'm in journalism school at supposedly one of the best journalism colleges in the world, and it's an absolute joke.
It's a total catastrophe.
And, you know, I said at the time I was getting extra credit for publishing articles in the local fake media.
So I was writing a lot for an article for a paper owned by the New York Slimes and for another.
It was a locally owned newspaper.
Very nice.
I like the family that owned it, but really no serious discussion of serious issues.
And so being that we got extra credit for having our work published, I thought, well, hey, maybe we need a real newspaper that actually does real journalism.
So we got together a couple of other friends and me.
And yeah, we started off, we did our first print run was I think 4,000 copies.
We distributed it through local businesses starting in our county.
And then moving out to the surrounding counties.
By the time we finished, we were doing print runs of over 15,000.
We were distributing all across the region throughout north central Florida.
We had huge traffic online.
We had people beating down our doors to be interviewed at local elected officials and judges.
And we had people throwing money at us for advertisement.
So it was a fascinating time.
We ended up shutting down the paper due to irreconcilable differences of opinion between me and some of the other founders.
You know, I wanted to move in a more God centered direction and they did not.
So so we ended up shutting it down, but it was really fun while it lasted.
I ended up keeping the company and I still have that today.
So in your experience, brother, how Orwellian of a world do we live in?
Or if you want to put it into a religious frame, is it completely dominated by the dark sides?
Some sort of satanic or demonic force that seems to have captured every agency as far as I can tell.
It's interesting that you frame the question that way, Carl, and I appreciate that very much.
You know, I was raised with kind of the same worldview as normal people, that mankind is basically good and that, you know, things are pretty much as they seem.
But the more I studied the way things were going, the more I realized that was not true, and then I opened up my Bible.
I realize that, you know, the Bible has a lot to say about this.
In fact, the Bible calls Satan the god of this world, and it says that he has blinded the minds of them which believe not, which is, of course, the majority of the people on the planet.
In 1 John chapter 5, it says, the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
And so, you know, I compare what's written in the Bible, and this process actually began for me in college.
I compare what's written in the Bible with what I'm observing, and hey, they line up perfectly.
It turns out there really is evil running wild in this world, and that's not going to last indefinitely.
We certainly know that, and we can take comfort in that fact.
But no, right now, you know, evil is Running wild, and many if not most of our institutions are in the hands of evildoers who are wittingly or unwittingly doing the bidding of their father, of their god, and you know, we see the fruit of that all around us.
Death, destruction, murder, collapse of civilization, drug abuse, abortions, you name it, it's everywhere, and there's a reason for that.
Yeah, it seems to me and Chris jump in just any time with my own experience of 46 years of working for what I'm calling the Great Awakening by taking on the issues that affect the greatest number of people and the most important areas for quality of life.
I work with results.org bringing up that grassroots.
Organization lobbying for U.S.
domestic and foreign policies to end poverty that went to two U.N.
summits for heads of state.
As far as I can tell, it is every agency that is important that is captured by some sort of evil.
And, you know, I would definitely say that the evidence is there with the adrenochrome and the abuse of children that this is some sort of a satanic force.
And then, moreover, You know, I see that there is a high probability of an AI, and to link, diving off the deep end right away, the AI to the Satanism, if you had an AI that wanted to Suck in as much information as it possibly could and deconstruct and figure out what was going on in life.
You certainly would want to reverse engineer people and to get the most pure energy closest to the source that you were trying to break into and discover the code.
You would take humans apart and human babies apart and find out what makes them tick and find out the energy source.
So, it may be that this is just an amoral type of intelligence that is tearing things apart and wants to keep absolute control and protection while it is doing that.
What do you see with AI connected to this topic, Alex?
Yeah, there's something very alarming right along the lines of what you talked about, and that is the effort to utilize AI, of course, to enslave the planet, but even to get down to the most fundamental building blocks of life, right?
And the UN has been working on this for some time.
The technology just hasn't been there, but they want to break down the genetic code of every living organism.
They want it all compiled into giant databases, and then they want to use that, and then they want to manipulate that for very sinister purposes.
And so we see some of this now.
I mean, what we're seeing is just the tip of the iceberg, right?
Bill Gates releasing genetically engineered mosquitoes in Florida.
You know, the genetic engineering of all our crops.
Increasingly now, they're genetically engineering human beings.
Just a few years ago, they crossed a human and a mouse using mouse DNA and human DNA.
And, you know, these are the things that we know about.
These are the things that have come out publicly in the fake news.
You can be sure that much more wicked stuff is happening deep in underground military bases and in black ops and assorted shadowy programs that are not on congressional budget lists.
And, you know, when you look at all of that and you take it all together, I don't think you can come to any sensible explanation other than that we are dealing with something that is inherently and desperately evil in the most profound sense.
You know, I think a lot of libertarians are like, well, it's just people with bad ideas and we just have to present better ideas and then they're going to come over to our side.
And I used to believe that, but the more I examine What we're dealing with, it's so obvious that better ideas are not going to persuade these people.
We're dealing with, as the Bible says in Ephesians chapter 6, we're dealing with powers, principalities, spiritual forces of darkness and wickedness in high places.
And there's no question that they're using human beings.
There's no question that they're using technology and very much including artificial intelligence and now very sophisticated technologies that your average person doesn't even realize exist, things that DARPA has been working on.
And, you know, the idea that this is for the betterment of humanity is so utterly preposterous that it's hard to believe any sensible person could believe that.
I mean, you really just have to be brainwashed beyond any comprehension to believe that these things that are happening are somehow for the benefit of humanity.
They're so obviously wicked.
So obviously, yes.
I wanted to jump in and ask you, well, we definitely know there's been a serious breach of faith and trust from the authorities and the powers that be.
And there's certainly been an agenda to try to program our children in certain ways to really break a moral compass and a family unit type of sense that they've had growing up.
traditional conservative type of perspective and certainly replace it with a very dooming alternative, like say going into LGBTQ or some of these things where they wouldn't be proclined to have a family or really to join the moral fibers or the social contracts that maybe most generations have in the past.
How do we move forward as far as isolating our children and bringing our children into, you know, not contact with this, but like awareness of this, but certainly awareness of their own self, their own relationships with nature, with God, with family, things like this.
You've done some great work in that.
I'd like to maybe get into that a little bit with you if you want to just free range from there.
I'd love to hear what you got to say.
Sure.
Well, yeah, I think one of the key things is people have to protect their children from the indoctrination that has become so ubiquitous today.
I mean, we need to be clear.
We need to stop pretending like there's any kind of education.
Going on in the public education system.
There's no education at all.
This is systematic indoctrination.
It's sexualization.
It's dumbing down.
It's the deliberate handicapping of another generation of young Americans.
And unfortunately, this is not isolated to the United States.
And, you know, I think that's probably the most important battle.
You know, as long as they have You know, depending on whose numbers you believe, somewhere between 80 and 85 percent of children trapped in these indoctrination centers.
You know, it's going to be very difficult for humanity to break free from this control grid.
So I urge parents in the strongest possible terms to protect your children and get them out of the system.
As a public, just retired public education teacher, we'll talk about education, but I gotta go back a moment here.
So Alex, in my estimation, we have no power, no matter how articulate, no matter how overwhelmingly obvious the facts are when we point to them.
In my experience, 46 years brother, about 2% of the population, one out of 50, is able to engage in these types of conversations with us and the rest of And even if they can hang with us for a while and nod their head, they get lost again and sucked into the corporate media and official stories.
It seems to me that the 2% of us who are here, which...
Maybe 200 million across Earth that we are just messengers and powerless ones is that it seems that we are here to facilitate choice, and even up to 2 UN summits for heads of state.
I found that.
There is no policy that makes any difference that any group of people I've been working with has been able to move so far.
Now, what's your take on, what are we doing here, the messengers?
Do you think there's any possibility that we could win, or it's just going to be waiting upon For lack of a better way of phrasing it, for God's timing or evolution's timing, that we need some sort of a breakthrough before we can consider any pathway to victory.
Yeah, that's a good question.
And, you know, I of course approach this from a biblical perspective, and there are different schools of thought within, you know, Orthodox Christianity.
There are many different views on eschatology.
The dominant view in the American evangelical church is what's called the premillennial view, where the interpretation of scripture and the prophecies is that things are going to continue getting worse, culminating in this totalitarian, one-world, satanic government run by the Antichrist.
That is by far the dominant view.
among American evangelicals today and among American Christians more broadly today, that things are just going to continue getting worse and worse and worse.
There's nothing you can do to stop it.
It's just going to be a satanic one world government.
Any effort to slow it down even is just interfering with God's plans.
And, you know, I don't claim to know which eschatological view is correct, but I think it is worth considering other views that have been held by wonderful and faithful men and women of God for 2,000 years, One of the other views that was much more common even 100 years ago is the post-millennial view, which holds that the gospel will continue to triumph.
The gospel will continue to make progress.
Nations will continue to be discipled and come to know Lord and come to into submission to God and and that eventually you know the entire world will be maybe not Christianized necessarily but the gospel will spread to every corner of the world and there will be this incredible time of peace and prosperity so I don't claim to know who's correct I I think there are reasonable arguments made on each side.
But, you know, based on what I'm seeing right now, I do think that there is a path to, at the very least, exposing and holding these maniacs off for a time.
Because if you look at what's happening right now with public awareness, especially in the United States, but it's also true in other places, people are really catching on to the fact that they're being lied to.
People are really catching on to the fact that Uh, their government is not acting in their best interest, that the media is deliberately trying to deceive them.
And I mean, these are not my opinions.
These are not anecdotes.
If you look at the polling data, this is very clear.
Americans do not trust the media anymore.
That doesn't mean that they necessarily understand everything that's going on, but they know they're being lied to, and that's step one, right?
And so you see an increasing desperation from the establishment to silence any voices that contradict the narrative.
We saw this with Alex Jones in 2016.
He was absolutely dominating on YouTube.
He was getting more viewers on his election coverage than all the fake media outlets combined.
ABC, CBS, New York Slimes, Washington Post.
Sweeping the floor with him.
And that was with the rigged algorithms and with the shadow banning and with the efforts to try to wipe him out of the media landscape.
And so what did they do?
Well, they just finally resorted to total and complete censorship.
They just said you can't even be on our platform anymore.
Why?
Because people were turning to him rather than the fake media.
What that tells me is that there is a hunger for truth, for alternative explanations to what's going on.
It tells me that the establishment has really lost control of the narrative of the hearts and minds of people.
Now, does that mean that they won't succeed in deceiving huge numbers of people into destructive or at least neutralizing activities, behaviors, and beliefs?
No, it doesn't mean that at all.
But, I've been very encouraged by some of what I've seen.
There's of course been an exodus by the millions of people, families leaving the public school system.
There's millions of people who've shut off the TV.
There are millions of people who are sick of politics as usual.
So we'll see where this goes.
You know, I like to say we have our instructions.
We can trust God with the results.
And so, you know, I live by that.
I don't claim to be a future predictor or a prophet.
I don't have any Special mathematical models or insights to tell anybody where this is all going to end up.
But I do know that we have to do what's right, regardless of whether we are victorious or not.
And, you know, believing in the sovereignty of God, I know that all things ultimately will work to His glory.
We just have to obey our instructions and stand for the truth and stand for what's right.
Chris, I gotta thank you for bringing Alex on.
And buddy, I'm just having questions just lined up here, so Chris, just jump in if you got something.
Otherwise... No, I'd rather you have your shot here, man.
I know you're a teacher for a long time, and he's had some good stuff about schools, man.
Maybe you guys can get into that, because we definitely need an alternative to what the Rockefeller Board of Education and Medicine have been giving us.
Yeah, we'll get there, but I've got to stay deep here for a while.
So one of the conclusions that that I have, you know, as a social studies teacher, Alex, I would teach world history and teach the religions of the basic message.
And you may know that Jesus is the most studied individual by professional historians.
And I would be able to present to students because, you know, one of the questions that students have, you know, is religion for real?
I mean, What was this?
And because he is the most studied individual, I was able to definitely go into some of the details of what we know about who provided what documents that showed up where and when in the historical narrative.
And one of the conclusions that I would give to students who may be more faith-based and didn't consider the history, and I find it interesting that our leaders We give lip service to the study of history, and we virtue signal about it, but very few people apply it to what they say is the most important in their religion.
And one of the conclusions that I would say to students is as, you know, as, as just as an individual.
of faith that doesn't mean anything to anybody else, but just my own conclusions with it, is that if you do conclude that there is a loving God, that perhaps, in my view, has some extra-dimensional power over this domain, where we are an extra-dimensional bit of power, which would also include the mastery of time, then, and if you, you have to surrender to that.
You may have some co-creative ability.
You may be able to petition with what you think and what you say and what you do.
But if you have faith that this is a power for good or is a power that cannot be argued with, then, you know, I have a great deal of empathy with just surrendering the pathway.
And at the same time, it seems that everybody who I resonate most closely with It's on fire to be able to to say something to have something to say and to get our own thoughts straight and to do something about it.
But again, it seems like all we can do is offer choice.
But I'm with you, brother.
Is that the idea that you're going to be scared of an outcome?
I mean, it may get nasty.
And in some places of the world, oh for sure, it is more horrible than one can imagine.
But in the big picture, I like your confidence and I think that that is the place to stand.
Yeah, and in fact I think it's essential.
I'm going to jump in and be bright side for once in my life here and say that I almost feel that with the change of the human residence, you're seeing humanity come together and realize that there's been a caste system that's been played against itself, with the top playing the bottom against everyone in the middle.
And of course, it transcends religious authorities and governments and all this stuff.
And I think that there's a common culprit behind these things, you know, whether it's central banks, World Economic Forum, things like that, we could name them all, right?
But in reality, I think that there's a unity that's being formed in the face of this great evil of good people coming together and transcending their religious beliefs, transcending their national sentiments, and really standing up for the right thing.
And I really think these guys are in trouble, and I'm glad to see that.
I think it has to end with our generation.
I think it will.
Yeah, go ahead, Alex.
You were going to say something, too.
Yeah, no, I'm encouraged by those trends as well, Chris.
And what I was going to say about your comments, Carl, is that it is essential that we avoid the temptation to fall into fear.
Fear is a tactic.
It's an emotion that the enemy uses and actually tries to instill in us for the purpose of having us make dumb decisions or having us be paralyzed.
And we saw that so clearly over the last few years with COVID.
You know, the moment the clown car on TV started telling us that we were all going to die if we didn't submit to their draconian measures, it should have been obvious to anybody with any sense that we were being manipulated.
Why?
Because fear is such a powerful tool of manipulation.
Fear and ignorance are really the most powerful tools at the enemy's disposal to manipulate us.
And you know, the Bible says true religion is taking care of widows and orphans.
And so when people say religion, You know, I'm very skeptical of quote-unquote organized religion in the sense that it has come to be understood, right?
The Bible again says just true religion is taking care of widows and orphans.
If you're a religious person, you ought to be taking care of widows and orphans.
But that's quite apart from the truths revealed in the scripture.
That, you know, I think if people study them, if people look at them, first of all, they provide by far the best explanation of what we're dealing with.
Second of all, they can be proven to be demonstrably true historically, scientifically.
Prophetically, right?
About a third of the scriptures are prophetic in nature, and many of those prophecies have come to pass perfectly as described.
And so, you know, the scriptures are a very, very powerful source of hope, a very powerful source of truth.
And a very powerful source of courage that allows people to look out at the monster that we're facing, the evil that we're facing, and attempt to deal with that in a way that doesn't get paralyzed by fear.
Alex, in my view, when I say that everything is captured, that includes the organized religions and the people at the top, and the case study of that is going to be the Pope at the Vatican and the world's richest museum, and God knows what secrets are buried underneath there, and with that sordid history.
Do you also see that part of the condition of our opponents is to, of course, they have to capture religion.
Of course they have to do that.
Yeah, and they've been making very clear moves in that direction.
Peter Drucker, who actually was a mentor to Rick Warren, one of the biggest so-called evangelical leaders today.
He's also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Very shady individual, in my opinion.
So, Peter Drucker, his mentor, outlined this vision of a three-legged stool for bringing about profound changes in society.
He said the first leg of the stool was government or the public sector.
The second leg of the stool was the private sector, the businesses of the world.
And the third leg of the stool, he said, was the social sector, primarily composed of religion.
And if you look at the institutions that are being used to drive humanity toward this so-called New World Order, What you have is, first and foremost, the governments of the world.
And they come together through the United Abominations, better known as the UN, the United Nations.
And then, of course, you have the World Economic Forum.
Bringing the businesses of the world on board.
And I mean, it's not like they're hiding this, right?
I mean, the UN said Agenda 2030.
This was ratified back in 2015 by the UN General Assembly.
The President of the UN General Assembly, Peter Thompson, said this is the master plan for humanity.
Over and over again in the text of this abominable document, it says no one is going to be left behind.
No one, no one, no one is going to be left behind.
So every person on the planet is going to be roped into this if they get their way.
So, Klaus Schwab comes along and the World Economic Forum signs a so-called strategic partnership with the UN to bring the businesses of the world on board with UN Agenda 2030, again, the master plan for humanity.
Then you bring the religions on board, and this has happened.
In 2019, the World Parliamentary Assembly of what's called Religions for Peace Which they claim to represent virtually every human being on the planet because they've captured the leadership of these so-called religions.
You know, the Vatican is of course a big participant and many of the evangelical churches, many of the orthodox churches, many of the Islamic leaders, many of the Jewish leaders, many of the Hindu leaders, many of the pagans of all varieties, right?
They all came together in Germany, funded by George Soros and the State Department and the Rockefellers and You know, all the usual suspects.
Of course, the U.S.
government was a big-time financier and they actually came up with this crazy religious declaration that says, you know, we commit our religions to human development as outlined in Agenda 2030.
So absolutely, you know, they are using, they are manipulating, they are weaponizing religion for the purpose of bringing this monstrous One World Order into view and into existence.
But The antidote to that is to simply read the Bible.
The Bible is the thing that exposes all these so-called religious movements and so-called religious leaders as, in many cases, actual frauds.
People who are distorting the scriptures.
People who are concealing the scriptures.
And so, again, true religion.
Taking care of widows and orphans.
The scriptures are, in my opinion, the basis for truth.
We can check the veracity of any movement, any ideology, any religious leader based on what's revealed in the scriptures.
If it doesn't line up with what's in the scriptures, then, you know, I'm not interested.
And what we see is all these pseudo-religious leaders coming together and leading their congregations, or attempting to lead their congregations and their followers into this one world order.
But people are wising up to this, you know, and you see this across the board.
I come from a Catholic family.
I can't tell you how many Catholics are, you know, to say they're skeptical of Bergoglio, better known as Pope Francis, would be the understatement of the year.
The same thing is happening in evangelical circles.
People are realizing that a lot of the so-called evangelical, and I consider myself an evangelical Christian today, but many of the evangelical leaders, including people like Rick Warren, are working to lead their followers into this system, rather than into truth, rather than into the truth that Christ revealed through the scriptures.
So, yes, religion absolutely has become a tool, and really you could say in some sense always has been, at least many organized religions always have been a tool for enslaving the mind and trying to bring people under control.
But, you know, that too is revealed in the Scriptures.
And actually, if you look at the life of Jesus, if you look at the New Testament, if you look at the Gospels, the people he condemned most were the religious leaders, right?
He's out there partying and having dinner with tax collectors and all kinds of sinners.
the adulterers uh who does he save his harshest words for it's always the religious leaders right you people are snakes you're a brood of vipers your your father is the devil i mean that's some really hard language and unfortunately the same thing is pretty much true in our day you raise it like central bankers you know it's the same the moneyers that money changers he
Yeah, totally the same guys putting this misery index on the entire world and they can determine not only the value of wages, the value of resources, the value of life.
This is absolutely something that until justice is served and basically equated for the multitudes, I don't think there can be any hope or really with such a breach of trust.
I think the justice must be delivered for many of the misdeeds that have gone on against the human race and I really think that, you know, people are starting to come together for that.
Thank God.
I think really the effort needs to step up because if we leave these guys, you know, in control of what they're doing, I don't see many good things coming for us soon.
Yeah, both of you guys point to a key paradox.
And as bad as it is, we have hinted at that our opponents have somehow overplayed their hands.
And we've all said things like, yeah, it looks like people are waking up a little bit.
The polling data does suggest that.
Yeah.
So my conclusion is that whatever happened on Earth, ordinary humans were just outmatched and had no chance for the fulfillment of whatever divine creative potential that we had.
We were too controlled, too enslaved.
So I think that we have needed Friends in high places, and I think we've gotten them.
I think that what's happening behind the scenes, consistent with, and I'll ask you for your take on this Alex in a moment, that consistent with the Q postings is that we have had work behind the scenes and an injection, which may include people like us, into the mix.
That Cannot suffer this type of mind control.
So I think that we are poised on a breakthrough moment.
And, you know, I have framed this for over a decade that we were in this Emperor's New Clothes condition.
Where anybody who cares to raise their own eyes and look will see exactly what we have been describing, but they're not going to look on their own.
And so we need this type of a breakthrough, but enough of us have raised enough of a racket.
And really that enough has happened where it just seems like we're just a moment away from this type of victory.
So Alex, have you checked out Q at all?
I have, yeah.
I looked at it pretty closely early on.
Obviously there was a lot of truth there.
I have come to the tentative conclusion, and I'm open to looking at evidence either way, but I've come to the tentative conclusion that What we're dealing with in some sense, and at some level is a sign up.
And I don't exactly know who's putting it out there, or for what purpose.
But when I started seeing, you know, trust the plan, I became very skeptical.
You know, I'd like to see the plan before I trust it, please.
Yeah, I like what Reagan said, trust, but verify.
And so I don't exactly know or claim to know what's going on.
Clearly, a lot of truth was put out through whatever this Q thing was.
But, you know, if I if I had to just say my opinion based on what I have seen, my guess is that we're dealing with probably some sort of intelligence operation, potentially multiple intelligence operations designed to get people To do things that maybe are not necessarily useful, or maybe even to lead them down a potentially dangerous path.
And I think we probably still haven't gotten to the end of it.
I think it'll become more clear as time goes on.
You know, one of the things that comes to mind is what the Soviets used to do.
They used to create their own opposition.
So, I think we always need to be careful of You know, leaders and things like that.
And it applies not just to organized religion and politicians, but in everything.
You know, is what we're being told, is what's being said true?
Does it line up with the scriptures?
Is there an ulterior motive?
And so, you know, I won't claim to be an expert, and I will say that many of the people who I think have analyzed the Q phenomenon are very well-meaning, they're very intelligent, and they have come to sensible conclusions.
And of course, there is a lot of truth there.
It almost makes me think of Fox News, which, you know, I think a lot of Q followers will be upset with me for saying this.
But, you know, if you watch Fox News, you'll get a lot of truth from Fox News relative to what you would get, say, from CNN, the Communist News Network, or CBS, or ABC.
And the reason why is, well, wouldn't be very convincing if it was just another repeat of CNN.
And so you'll see a lot of truth on Fox, but once you get too far, that's when you start, you know, like Tucker Carlson being fired or Lou Dobbs being fired.
I think the reason they were fired is because they went beyond what was acceptable for the establishment controllers.
So I think time will tell what's been going on with Q. I think there have been some Interesting revelations that have come through there and some very smart people.
You know, Dr. Jerome Corsi is someone who I know and who I respect greatly.
Alex Jones is someone who I know and I respect greatly.
And both of them found value in the Q phenomenon, at least early on.
Both of them have now distanced themselves from that.
So we'll see.
We'll see what comes from it.
But I'm encouraged that whether legit or not, truth is coming out.
And even if it is a sign-off, I think it's telling that they have to reveal so much truth to be able to get people on board and to get people to trust it.
So no matter which way you slice it, I think there's some encouraging lessons from there.
It's definitely a psyop.
It is definitely a psychological operation.
And one of the things that we can tell for sure is that whatever Q was, is, was attached to the Trump White House.
And we can tell that definitively because of the coordination of the timing of the language.
In the Q posts and the Trump tweets and the timing of both of those happening, and Alex, you're right, as I read Q, and I did read all of them as it was happening, I was struck because as somebody who is looking for the most damning information to catch and pass, since 2009 I've written over a thousand articles to about 50 million plus total page views, so I'm very much into understanding what this place is.
And for the cue drops, I was like, wow, this is hard hitting stuff.
And the spiritual component pointed there.
And as well, the hints At the possibilities of time travel involved, an extra dimensional power to be able to move forward and backward and to be able to insert certain aspects into the equation.
So, and the ET angle as well.
That also is huge.
And I'm introducing a bunch of topics at once.
So yes, some sort of PSYOP.
very tantalizing information that they're given.
And I think, Alex, that you're right, is that part of us just has to sit back and say, "Well, that's interesting, but we'll see how it plays out." Because what are you gonna do with that information other than say, "Wow, that's interesting." - Yeah. - When you say alien invasion, I thought you were talking about the border. - All right.
Now, you know, I do think that we'll see as time goes on that there is a clear link with whatever this UFO alien psyop is.
You know, it's gotten more and more extreme, more and more intense.
Even just over the last few weeks, few months, it's been on all the major media outlets.
It's been on all the big newspapers, all government whistleblowers claim something to do with the With aliens, and I personally am convinced that what we're dealing with here is, excuse me.
Sorry about that.
Bless you, brother.
Thank you.
I'm convinced that what we're dealing with here is actually demonic, interdimensional, maybe, not extraterrestrial.
And there's a lot of reasons why I've come to that conclusion, but I do believe that there's a nexus Between the UFO propaganda, the UFO psyop, the alien psyop, and a lot of what we're seeing right now in politics and business.
And, you know, again, it's not something I'll claim to be an expert on.
It's kind of an esoteric subject.
But, you know, I'm absolutely convinced that these are not aliens from outer space.
And I am convinced that at the highest levels of the power structure, there's a direct connection with whatever that is, whether that is actually the demonic or whether it's some psyop.
uh being pushed by the highest levels of the elite or maybe both i don't know but uh i i do not believe and i will not believe for one second based on the evidence that i've seen that little green men are coming here from other planets to tell us that jesus wasn't really who you think he was i mean give me a break really you came here from the pleiades to tell me that jesus is not really who i think he is okay mhm yeah chris you got something on fire about it Otherwise, I'll jump into education with Alex.
Go for it, man.
All right.
So, let me screen share, and I think this would be the best way to show where I'm looking at.
So Alex, this was a series that I wrote in 2016, and I titled it U.S.
Public Education Bullshit to Train Stupefied Work Animals, and then I went through 12 series of this.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't hold back!
Exactly, exactly.
And then I just went through our textbooks in U.S.
History, Government, Economics, Math, ASB, Student Leadership as an Entertainment Committee.
I mean, you do a great job with dances.
The Language Arts, failing to really Hold on to what's inspirational physical education.
I mean, just look at us the five and performing arts that has been.
Oh, that's been delegated to pay to play.
You almost have to pay for all of that stuff and science.
Take a look at the response and then feeding our students just literal crap when decrepit campuses.
So.
You know, that was my take on education, and I would tell my students this, that the idea of you take children and you put them at a desk, a child, an energetic child, you're going to sit them at a desk, and you're going to tell them to write a bunch of stuff on paper, and after they learn how to read, write, and count, almost everything that we're telling them, it's not inspiring them.
And you could see it on their faces as they progress through school.
So my conclusion is exactly that, is that we want to have, or our masters want, these stupefied work animals who can just do work for the Empire.
What do you see, brother?
Yeah, and that's exactly what the system was designed to do from the beginning.
And that's what drives people crazy is when I say that.
And yet it's true and it's provable.
You know, there's this pervasive myth and no matter how hard you try, you can't get rid of it.
There's a pervasive myth that there was this golden age of government education and then somehow liberals hijacked it and messed it all up.
No, no, no.
There was never a golden age of public education.
It was always a fraud from the beginning.
In fact, the idea of government educating children is unbiblical, and it's ridiculous.
And we all recognize this in any other industry.
You know, if we were to say that the government should run our grocery stores, we would all instinctively say, like, no, that's ridiculous.
What are you, some kind of communist?
And yet, when the government says we should educate your children, we say, oh, well, I mean, I guess there are poor people, and, you know, I guess maybe we should have government.
It makes absolutely no sense.
It's a terrible model.
And you go back and you look at the Genesis system, It was created by people who wanted to dumb down the population, as you explained.
That was their goal from the beginning.
And you had this very interesting convergence of interests.
You had the communists and the capitalists joining forces to dumb down, as you explained, Uh, the population.
So the communists, people like John Dewey, they wanted to dumb down the population because you couldn't overthrow a highly educated, highly literate Christian society.
And John Dewey understood that.
Christians would never agree to be enslaved because God is the author of liberty, because God is the one who granted us rights.
And so he thought, well, hey, we'll have a government school system to dumb these people down.
And it's actually worse than, you know, just dumbing them down.
I co-wrote a book about this with the great Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld.
They have actually managed to shut off our ability to read.
It's incredible.
They're using a method to teach so-called reading that we've known since the mid-1800s is quackery and actually produces reading disabilities and illiteracy.
And so they institutionalized this quite deliberately.
And you know, people think it doesn't make sense that a communist like John Dewey would team up with capitalists like the Rockefeller dynasty.
And yet they had a convergence of interests.
The Rockefeller dynasty wanted dumbed down animals and workers who, you know, might be well educated enough to turn a screw on the assembly line, but not well educated enough to become entrepreneurial, to become thinkers, to become possible competitors.
And so they all had this vested interest in dumbing down the American population.
And that is how we ended up where we're at today.
It was a deliberate plot to dumb down the American people.
Government education was the vehicle to accomplish that, and our nation has suffered disaster after disaster as a direct result of this since the advent of government education.
And the government education really triumphed, I would say, after World War I. That's the first time they really got a majority of American children in government school classrooms.
And it has been nothing but a disaster ever since.
We've been getting dumber with each succeeding generation.
We've been getting more and more hostile to God and truth with each generation.
And, you know, we now are almost at the climax, I think, where we are so dumb, we can't differentiate fact from fiction.
We are so dumb, we can't open up a book and read it.
And we are so dumb that we think we're brilliant.
It's absolutely incredible.
Yeah, the idea of... Oh, go ahead, Chris.
Oh, sorry, I was going to say, it seems like smartphones.
Ever since I've had a smartphone, I've been stupid.
You know, I don't know what it is.
I've never had one, and God willing, I never will.
So, but no, I know exactly what you mean.
Man.
Yeah, in compulsory education, we had the move to make a high school education required, and then they piled onto that, and in order to get most good jobs requiring a college education, you have to go through their institutionalized system for another four years as well.
Yep.
And really, I mean, what do we get for this education?
You go back and you look at the education that people had before the advent of government schools, and it's incredible.
You almost can't believe it.
Eighth graders were far better educated than your average PhD student today.
And yet, somehow we think if we just give them more money, everything's gonna be okay.
I mean, give me a break.
Yeah, the stupefication.
Go ahead, Chris.
Oh, I was gonna say the massive student loan debt is unbelievable.
You know, it's a millstone.
It's unbelievable what's going on right now with that and people that can't afford to pay it.
Yeah, and what do they get in return for that other than that millstone?
So yeah, something's got to give with our education system.
That's why I was hoping to put you two in touch and really discuss some of that stuff, if you don't mind, how to resolve this.
You know, charter schools, our own schools, homeschooling.
I hear some great things about homeschool children and I'm thinking about going that course with my almost four year old.
So maybe you guys can get into some of the things you guys are interested in with that.
Yeah, go back a little bit.
So as a boy, both my grandfathers were tradesmen.
And in among that generation, there were jokes where the people who actually would look at something and being able to put their hands on it and wanted to be able to get their own hands and eyes on a situation would laugh and joke about the college educated people they had experienced making more money than they did.
But were a degree of of incompetence.
There was almost a there was both a sadness and there was a perplexity and derision of how can these people say that they're better educated when they're blind to what's right in front of their faces and they don't know how to look.
Yep.
And and that's what we're dealing with is people who are dumber than you know at any point in American history and yet they think that They are smarter and wiser than everybody who came before them.
It's simply preposterous.
As far as solutions to this crisis, I would say we really need to get the government out of education entirely.
That's one of the reasons I'm so skeptical of charter schools.
Yeah, you get sometimes better results than a regular government indoctrination center in a charter school, but a charter school is still a government school.
It's funded by the government.
It's controlled by the government.
It uses the common core standards if they follow the law.
And so, the Bible is banned.
Prayer is banned.
And so, you know, as far as I'm concerned, charter school is really not much of an improvement.
I do believe homeschooling is the gold standard for anyone and everyone who can do it, which I believe is most people.
You know, I hear all the usual excuses, and I've been doing this for a long time.
Well, we don't have enough money.
Well, we both need to work.
Well, you know, I need to have that fancy vacation home or that 2022 BMW in the driveway.
Then, you know, if that's your priority rather than the well-being of your children, you know, I can't really help you with that.
But we do live in the richest society in human history.
You know, everybody.
I think if our goat-herding ancestors 3,000 years ago could afford to educate their own kids, I think we can as well.
And you know, there are great private schools out there.
I've worked with a lot of them.
I actually serve on the board of a wonderful K-12 Christian school, and so I'm a big supporter of private Christian education.
But I do believe homeschooling is the gold standard when possible, and when not, you know, I think Of course, parents have the authority to delegate some of their responsibility to others, whether that be a homeschool co-op or a tutor or a Christian school, whatever.
But I think parents really need to choose wisely.
There are very few decisions that you make in your life that are going to have a bigger impact, not just on your life, but the life of your children, your grandchildren, and on the future of humanity.
Then the way your children are educated and so I tell parents like make that decision carefully and pray about it.
Don't just do what everybody else does.
Everybody else.
I mean look around you, right?
Is that what you want for your family?
Is that what you want for your posterity?
And so we homeschool.
I've got five kids and we homeschool and we we absolutely love it.
We know a lot of homeschoolers around the country.
You know, I I think again there are other acceptable and alternative options, but I do think homeschooling is the best there is so.
And there are networks for that as well.
And you can join these networks and pretty much just diving it in and you'll be able to figure it out.
We homeschooled our daughter for a semester and the future of that.
In the big picture nothing is going to make much of a difference in the big picture in the broader context until we have some sort of a breakthrough where the ordinary people recognize to the extent that they're totally lied to and these are criminals at the top and Alex was talking about Fox News before and yeah they're just it's just play acting it's just fake opposition and you can tell because we're
The line is for me, for anybody who is significantly awake, is they have to be able to point to areas and say, yeah, these are actual crimes and we can point to the damages and these people should be arrested for causing this harm, but nobody goes there.
So there's going to be no hope, no change.
And that said, if you do have children, then I do recommend as well with Alex, homeschooling.
There are all kinds of options.
You just have to dive in and start figuring them out and then just try it.
And the good news, a lot of parents are afraid their kid is going to get behind.
You know, the people who once you really get going with homeschooling, you're going to find that The acceleration of learning in the areas where children are passionate about is is amazing and that it might be that the design of human beings is not going to be so uniform as we imagine from our pictures of.
Public education.
It may be that people are just going to go off in certain directions and become experts.
So a lot of it is going to be this great mystery that is yet to be revealed.
That once human beings are free, and I don't think that we have been free ever ever ever in all reported history, we have no idea of what's going to come.
But if it is in the environment of freedom and love and a Cooperative competition for the best ideas.
I think we'll all be very pleased at the outcome, especially compared to what we have now.
Yeah, I almost think that, you know, getting like minded people in a tight community and going local and with homeschooling and making like other families integrated into a homeschooling type of operation.
We had something like that in Portland where.
You know, each parent would volunteer, you know, three times a week and, you know, four hours a day.
And, you know, it wasn't too bad that way.
You know, you can really work it around a work schedule and still get in and do that.
And it was great to, you know, have, you know, your kid work with other parents and stuff like that, socially deal with other kids.
I'm talking about a three-year-old at the time.
So it was really cool.
But, but, you know, I'm looking to do something like that down in Florida too, and really trying to start with the community and not only for that, but in defense of your community and of your own self and your family and your values.
Uh, Chris's internet sometimes drops off.
In Florida, Sherry Divband, D-I-V-B-A-N-D, is somebody whose work I've been following with setting up more of a spiritual type of relationship.
And I like what Chris was talking about, of the idea of getting together with people and then dividing up that responsibility so that you have the practicality of being able to pay the bills while not surrendering your children to the public schools.
Chris will come back in a minute.
So I want to help make this point about how bad public schools are.
And Alex, this was an essay that I wrote in... I had two years of challenging Hayward Unified School Districts.
Health orders, so-called health, so-called orders for two years.
And I had out of a hundred teachers at our school, none of them would join them, join me.
None of them would stand with me, even to just being able to ask questions and demand rational answers.
We have all these ridiculous, crazy data points regarding COVID and Out of 100 teachers, I couldn't get one.
Just to ask with me, for example, one of the strongest points was federal Title 21.
And Title 21 governs the CDC and governs our health.
And Title 21 says that there is no experimental medical products to be coerced on anybody.
And this is based upon the uncontested historical lesson from World War II, That we were told of these horrendous medical experiments and we're not going to do that anymore.
And so I asked the district and asked my colleagues, you know, will you please?
I mean, if you care, join me in this question.
How is it that Hayward Unified School District can tell the staff that we must engage in experimental medical protocol or be fired?
How does that honor our Title 21 rights and our students are going to be expelled?
How does that honor their Title 21 rights?
And Alex, the district, of course, refused to answer that question and through persistence and our teachers union, They didn't do anything to stand with me, but they helped me get some meetings.
And finally, I got an answer from the district.
They gave me one paragraph of lawyerese from an anonymous lawyer that in subsequent questions they refused to identify so I could ask follow-ups.
And they, of course, refused my follow-up questions.
The paragraph explanation that they gave Alex about why they can fire me if I reject experimental medical products is they said, see, Mr. Herman, The state can supersede Title 21 if we give you greater protection or more stringent compliance.
So I asked, how is firing me and expelling students greater protection?
And of course, they wouldn't answer that.
And even through all that documentation, I couldn't get one to stand with me.
And it got to be so that the screen Here we go.
So after two years when they started lying to students and just throwing students out on bald face lies of health orders they made up, the superintendent ended up putting me on paid administrative leave the day before first semester finals and in order to investigate how and why I was asking questions, not to answer them,
But to investigate me for asking the questions and not a peep from the 100 teachers, I did have about 10 staff members who were in agreement and the students, once they got rid of me, the students had no more organized resistance and they pretty much complied for the rest of the school year.
So I don't think that we A, that all of these agencies are captured, including public education.
Don't put your kids in there if you can avoid it.
And B, is that even if you have messengers who can explain, document, and prove the case, It's not going to be enough and it goes back to that 2% of us are messengers and we need some sort of a breakthrough.
Otherwise, we're just going to be talking to ourselves.
I just wanted to offer that and sharing with your commitment to education and its condition, Alex.
Yeah, no, it's amazing what happens.
You know, they do what they can to Drive out the good teachers, the teachers who ask real questions.
You know, the unions will happily stick up for perverts, pedophiles, people that want to groom children.
But, oh, question the vaccines?
You are out of there, right?
It's just the way it is.
It's such a travesty.
I believe it is completely irredeemable.
It is hopeless.
You know, all these people saying, you need to run for school board.
You know, I wish them well, and I know they're well-meaning, but I'm sorry, you might, you'll have better luck going to beat your head against a brick wall.
There's no hope for this system.
It was designed to do what it's doing.
It's working almost flawlessly.
You know, there's a handful of kids that slip through the cracks because they won't pay attention and, you know, they come to school high and stuff.
And in a very weird kind of way, a lot of those kids are actually going to be better off than the ones who paid attention and did what the teacher said.
It's a wreck.
It's a train wreck.
And the sooner you can protect your family from the dumpster fire, the better.
So.
Yeah, and again, I want to point out to our audience that paradoxically, the admission and the acceptance of these facts in no way is discouraging to us in the big picture.
It merely points to the broader context and demands an answer to the question of who's in charge of this thing.
And if your answer is, is that there's a power for good that is in charge of this.
And yeah, if you want to make the argument that apparently something went wrong with an experiment, okay.
Perhaps.
Perhaps so.
And I do surrender to whatever this extra-dimensional power that I put my faith in, or at least I bond my allegiance to, that I can say for sure, is that you can In the idea of revolution, the Latin etymology of that is just to turn away from, so I'm turning towards the light, and it might be that everything that we're seeing here is just a spur for choice, to choose a side.
And there seems to be three basic positions.
The good, and that's us, those who can recognize the difference between good and evil and have chosen the good.
The bad, same thing, they know what they're doing and they're choosing control and manipulation and to have human resources to maximize the profit and control of natural resources.
And then the third general group are just the comatose, the ordinary sheeple who, you know, reject our messages and many are called few are chosen and um you know god is gonna have to have a response for them too and and for maybe they need to be uh relocated onto a planet on an easier environment where they're not so dominated by the propaganda i don't know yeah fascinating time to be alive gentlemen
and hey i really appreciate you having me on i'm I've got another engagement in about two minutes that I got to hop on to, but fascinating discussion.
Thank you, gentlemen.
And you know, there's one big takeaway from this as parents, you know, if you have kids, you need to do everything in your power to protect them because they are the future and you do not want them caught up in this wicked, wicked, wicked propaganda matrix that is Destroying so many individuals, so many families, so many countries right this moment.
But you have the power to protect them, so.
Alex Jones of Liberty Sentinel, thanks so much.
Any last words you want to give Alex before you go?
Well, hey, I appreciate you guys having me on the program.
If people want to learn more, my website is Liberty Sentinel.
That's S-E-N-T-I-N-E-L dot O-R-G.
People can subscribe to my weekly newsletter there.
And hey, appreciate you both, gentlemen.
Thank you very much, and hopefully we'll chat again very soon.
Thank you, Alex.
Thanks, guys.
Bye-bye.
Cool.
Yeah, that was cool, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, thanks for getting Alex for the show.
I appreciate it.
Bright guy.
He's working hard.
Yeah, he's all over the place.
So hopefully more people will, you know, get inspired from that.
You know, he's got five kids.
He's doing what he's doing.
He's an inspiration for me to get off my ass and try to do more.
So yeah, hopefully it helps others too with that.
Good stuff.
Thanks.
Thanks for having him.
Yeah.
Oh, my pleasure.
And feel free to use me as a resource through developing your options for homeschooling.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely, man.
I always will.
Cool.
All right, man.
Well, we'll see you then next time, right?
Is it Wednesday?
Yes, yes, for Wednesday, tomorrow, July 4th.
We're not going to be having a show, and I'm going to call Jim up, and I think just for the rest of the week, we'll have shows just among us, and we'll see where Jim is for joining us at that point.
Any final thoughts that you want to give to our audience before we go, Chris?
Yeah, there's definitely an organized group that's trying to infiltrate and reprogram your children to use them as janissaries against their own interests, too, trying to capitalize on biological confusions that's most likely caused from externalities.
So there's a lot more going on than meets the eye.
These people know what they're doing.
This is entirely too consistent to be accidental.
And this is a full spectrum assault on us and the family and the smallest tribe on earth.
So good for Alex to come on and talk about some other alternatives for school and to give such a strong endorsement for homeschooling.
It's certainly, I think, the way I'm going to have to go.
There's no doubt about that.
And I appreciate you guys both keeping me in on this conversation.
It was cool.
No, our pleasure.
Thanks for making it all possible.
For my final thoughts, I do appreciate Alex's perspective of what he said about not having any fear.
And the people with the most experience in my perspective and interpretation, once you get over the shock of the condition that we're in, then you really do come to an acceptance.
And there was a quote that RFK said, of his lessons with the assassination of his brother, and it was a quote by a Greek poet, it's not coming to me right now, but it was something like, drip by drip, until you come to the acceptance of the mighty, awful power of God, and that there is a wisdom to accepting your condition for what it is, and at the same time, acting consistent with your values.
So there's a lot of paradoxes with being fully self-expressed, and at the same time, So, back on Wednesday with more of the news that you need to know.
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