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March 20, 2023 - Jim Fetzer

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The Raw Deal (20 March 2023)

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	Someone!
	Yeah!
	When I was younger, so much younger than today I never needed anybody's help in any way But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
	Now I find I'll change my mind, I'll open up the doors.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being round.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you please, please help me?
	Well, I want to share with you today a Corbett report.
	James Corbett, quite a brilliant guy.
	I admire him greatly.
	Descent into madness, crazy conspiracy theorists.
	But how many of the so-called conspiracy theories turn out to be crazy at all?
	Take the January 6th business.
	We're seeing vast evidence there was indeed an elaborate conspiracy that it was completing the coup that had been initiated by stealing the election from Donald Trump and then to make sure there couldn't be any basis for a legal dispute over the election.
	Knowing Trump supporters were coming.
	They orchestrated an event that would enable them to cut off discussion in the Congress.
	Just as two members were about to introduce motions that would have required a pause in the counter review, the slates of electors submitted by the states so that they could preempt the meeting, four key officials Departing the area, making it impossible to continue.
	Vice President Mike Pence, who is very much involved in all of this.
	Mitch McConnell.
	What a disgrace he turns out to be.
	Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
	Nothing new there.
	So that before.
	These motions could be floored.
	Meaning introduced on the floor.
	Even if they'd been voted down, it would have been a basis in the legal record to submit a protest, an objection, a legal objection to the United States Supreme Court.
	But by virtue of preempting the flooring of those questions, they denied everyone I'd say everyone in the world, but everyone who had a legal standing to bring the bases, the opportunity to have a foundation in advance that had transpired there in the Capitol that day to request a review by the Supreme Court.
	So that in retrospect, that guaranteed that the court could not take up the theft of the election of 2020 because Was nothing in the record to justify.
	Because they preempted the introduction of exactly what was needed to justify.
	The court in taking up the issue in other words.
	Be very cleverly designed the event.
	To complete the coup by recluding.
	Any possible basis for contesting the outcome of the election, which it was massively stolen.
	But they use the J6 events in order.
	Make sure it would be legally technically impossible to raise the issue.
	Because it had not been raised during the discussion, the deliberation and the voting on the electors.
	That took place in the Capitol because exactly when they were about to introduce motions to pause to review, which might have entailed going back to the states to ask for clarification on the slate of electors whose votes ought to be counted, they cut it off.
	I mean, look, this was brilliantly designed.
	Now, in order for this to work, they had to have rather precise information about the protests, how they were going to transpire, and the timing, so they could make sure it didn't come too late.
	Look, once one of those motions had been introduced on the floor, again, as I say, even had it been voted down, that would have been a basis legally To dispute the election, and absent those motions, there would be no legal basis to dispute the election, so they made sure the motion didn't get on the floor.
	And I'm telling you, Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence were as deeply and profoundly involved in this scam to sabotage the Constitution.
	Deny the American people our choice to be president of the United States and turn it into the hands up guy.
	Not only an imposter was there because of a fake vote, but whose agenda was intended to destroy America.
	I mean, he's proving very adept at that.
	Grotesque.
	So here we have more from the Gateway Pundit, Jim Hoft.
	Wonderful.
	That's a brilliant job.
	Here's the latest.
	Dated today.
	It was a setup.
	Feds knew of registered Trump protests on January 6 outside the US Capitol.
	Later, they entrapped thousands of Trump supporters in a restricted area.
	Where protesters had permits to rally.
	Get this!
	I mean, you want to know how nasty these bastards are?
	On October 13, 2022, the FBI testified that they were using geo-tracking data to identify Trump supporters.
	Who had gathered near the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.
	A bombshell report by the Electronic Freedom Foundation, EFF, revealed the vast secretive partnership between private companies and the federal government to surveil and track the movement of millions of Americans.
	Let me say, This appears to be a blatant violation of the First Amendment, which precludes the government from interfering with our right to a peaceful assembly.
	I mean, of course, also with our freedom of speech, our freedom of the press, our freedom of religion.
	But in this case, with a right to peacefully Assemble to petition our government for grievances, in this instance, grievances over the conduct of the election of 2020.
	In other words, they were using these private companies as agents of the state, just as I'm convinced they've used Amazon.com as an agent of the state.
	They're bad.
	Not one, not two, not three, but six.
	Six of my books.
	Why?
	Because I bring together groups of experts to sort out what really happened, and we nail it, whether it's Sandy Hook, or the Boston bombing, or Orlando and Dallas, or Charlottesville, or Parkland, or even the moon landing.
	Though I believe that case, that sixth book, was banned.
	Because of a request from the Anti-Defamation League, which can be viewed as the intellectual arm of the Mossad, asking Amazon to ban any book that disputed the official narrative of the Holocaust.
	Anyone who has done serious research on the Holocaust knows the whole thing falls apart immediately.
	It's a house of cards.
	For example, on the back cover, I published a photograph of the British soccer team in Auschwitz.
	What?
	You didn't know there was a British soccer team in Auschwitz?
	You didn't know?
	Did you know there was a hospital with OBGYN facilities?
	That there was a woodworking shop?
	That there was a symphony?
	Now, there was even a brothel in Auschwitz?
	It turns out hundreds of babies were born in these camps.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Which is just utterly preposterous if these were the.
	Extermination center were told where you were offloaded when the cattle cars.
	Stripped naked, deprived of all your jewelry, rushed into a decontamination center where, packed like sardines, you were subjected to Zyklon B, which turns out to be a mild form of cyanide that they actually were using in the camps to kill body lies.
	Which are spreading typhus and dysentery because they want to protect the health of the inmates for the simple reason that you can't get work out of a corpse.
	These were labor camps.
	They are typically near military-centered munition plants in the life.
	They were using the inmates as slave labor.
	Yeah, that's deplorable.
	It's just a very different scenario than we've been told.
	Indeed, the International Committee of the Red Cross was keeping copious detailed records on every inmate who died.
	Their age, their sex, their ethnicity, their religion.
	their cause of death.
	And when they recalibrated their numbers in 1993, They found a total number who had died from all causes combined.
	What?
	What?
	296,081.
	296,081.
	What you may say?
	296,081?
	I thought it was 6 million.
	Honestly, I doubt there was six million Jews in all of Europe at the time.
	That was a fantasy.
	That was a figure.
	That was a fabrication.
	That was fake.
	That was phony!
	Bert Zundel, great man, was prosecuted in Canada.
	For distributing a pamphlet, did six million really die?
	Offering evidence that it's a preposterous number, and indeed it appears to have a theological origin, not historical, not factual, not empirical, theological derivative of a Disputed passage in Leviticus that's interpreted to mean that.
	The chosen people can return to the promised land only when they're minus six million who have been consumed in the flames.
	Which is amenable to a whole lot of different interpretation, indeed, since it was in the original Hebrew, which did not include a word for six million.
	Even that requires interpolation.
	But it's further substantiation that it had no historical basis.
	We find a whole host of articles in the international press beginning as early as 1890.
	Remember the Nuremberg Tribunals would be held until what, 1945?
	1890.
	1890.
	Using that number, six million Jews at fear of risk of their lives, 236 examples of this before the Nuremberg Tribunal.
	Which were reported to establish that six million Jews had died in gas chambers using Zyklon B. It was all bullshit.
	All bullshit.
	But the Zionists are fanatical about maintaining the myth.
	Why?
	Because Jewish political power is rooted in a Western sense of guilt.
	Over having allowed six million Jews to be put to death.
	And if six million Jews were not put to death, then there's no reason to have a sense of guilt for something that did not happen.
	And if there's no sense of guilt, then why not treat Jews and Israel and Zionists like any other political entity, which they deserve to be treated as any other political enemy, in fact?
	That they lie so massively that their whole scheme is predicated.
	It's like the Democrat Party!
	Predicated on the lie that Joe Biden got more votes than any other candidate in history.
	When we've all known it was preposterous from the beginning.
	So the Zionists, like the Democrats, use big lies, big lies, to promote their political platform, and they vilify anyone who disputes them.
	And by the way, If you want further substantiation, Nicole Ostrom, whom I featured on the show before, the historian of science from the UK, completely brilliant guy, the leading expert on the London 7-7 tube attacks, where he shattered that case by discovering that the train from Luton
	That the four young Islamic lads who had apparently been hired to play roles in a drill that featured explosions at the three tube stop stations where explosions would take place, couldn't make it.
	They weren't there.
	They weren't even there.
	They weren't even in London because a train from Luton was canceled that day.
	Found this.
	And when they discovered.
	They were wanted.
	For these events.
	And where there's an absolutely brilliant 77 ripple effect, completely brilliant.
	Documentary about how.
	The explosion occurred at exactly the same tube stops in the vicinity of the same bus that are shown to be the targets in a drill.
	Peter Power ran a drill that day on the same locations, same timing, where it went live.
	I mean, this is very parallel to Sandy Hook.
	You got a drill, FEMA drill, It didn't actually go live because nobody actually died at Sandy Hook, and people did die in the London 7-7 subway attack.
	Nick has blown it apart.
	Terror on the Tube is his book.
	It's in, I don't know, the 5th, 6th, 10th edition, 10th printing.
	Like my first book on JFK, Assassination Science, where I brought together the best experts.
	That book went through some 14 printings and exposed How they altered the x-rays to conceal a blowout in the back of the head.
	Substituted another brain for that JFK.
	And raised a lot of questions about as a Bruder film, which.
	Our subsequent work established to have been extensively edited and revised so that in fact there are more frames missing from the film.
	Around 500 that are in the action version 487.
	So the government are playing these games all the time.
	Let's continue.
	Jim Holt.
	January 6.
	According to the EFF, remember Electronic Freedom Foundation, the Intel alphabet agencies, including ICE, the FBI, U.S.
	Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Defense, as well as state and local law enforcement, are being funneled Hordes of private cell phone location data by private brokers who have harvested the information.
	This is the same tactic that Greg Phillips, Catherine Engelbrecht, and True The Vote used for their investigation into the mail-in ballot drop box fraud During the 2020 election, it's not just the Dominion voting machine.
	These draw boxes were massive.
	The cell phone location data collected by this group was used to identify the network of Democrat operatives who committed mass election fraud, as seen in the recently released documentary by Dinesh D'Souza, 2000 Mules.
	If you haven't seen it, you gotta see it.
	I mean, anyone who has the least doubt about the theft of the election in 2020, you gotta see it.
	The FBI was alleged to have used this data to identify patriotic protesters who traveled to Washington, D.C.
	on January 6, 2021.
	To support President Trump and the U.S.
	Constitution, which Pence and Schumer and Pelosi and McConnell were intent upon sabotaging.
	Tens of thousands of nearly a million protesters later walked to the U.S.
	Capitol following President Trump's speech, where more rallies were scheduled.
	Now let me observe.
	Trump spoke until 1.11.
	These events at the Capitol and provocative events began at 12.45.
	So Trump supporters weren't even there.
	It was a mile and a half away from the Ellipse.
	Since everyone attending a Trump rally is gonna listen till the last word is spoken by the man, Nobody or virtually nobody was leaving until 111.
	Then they had to go a mile and a half.
	Well, I walk a mile in about 15 minutes.
	This is a big crowd.
	It would probably move a little more slowly.
	But a mile and a half.
	22 and a half minutes.
	22 and a half minutes, 1:11, 22 and a half minutes, 1:33.
	I conjecture that Parties from the Trump rally weren't even there until around 1.33, and events were already well in progress.
	The FBI used geotracking to identify the movement of several targeted individuals in the zone.
	The government had an area called a restricted zone, only they didn't publicize that it was a restricted zone.
	Here's a photo showing the restricted zone around the U.S.
	Capitol where Trump supporters were gathering because they had permits to hold rallies in this area.
	They had permits to hold rallies in this area.
	We know today that there were no markers, flags, fencing, or other indicators that this area was off-limits.
	There weren't any!
	Nothing to indicate this area was off limits.
	And now we have evidence the U.S.
	government in D.C.
	believes a new thousand of Trump supporters would assemble in this area because they had permits for their rallies.
	The Trump supporters have flyers of the different scheduled events on January 5th and January 6th.
	Here are the flyers!
	Mega rally map guide for January 5th.
	Mega rally map guide for January 6th.
	The government knew where everybody was.
	Also, the Capitol Hill police knew about several protests scheduled on January 6th at the Capitol because it was included in their own report.
	Included in their own report.
	They got a whole list here.
	They got a list of about a dozen.
	How then is it legal that Trump supporters today are still having their homes raided and are sent to prison for standing outside the U.S.
	Capitol on January 6th and for walking through the Capitol on January 6th without committing any violence?
	Thousands of Trump supporters just think of the scam here!
	the scam.
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	Well, I promise you, Corbett. - Good.
	Thank you.
	Descent into madness, crazy conspiracy theorists.
	I think the guy is quite brilliant.
	In Descent into Madness, and this is now James Corbett, weaponization of psychiatry.
	I told the long and sordid history of how the study of the mind has been used to suppress political opposition and subdue unruly segments of the population, not just in the enemy states of Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany or communist Cuba, but in England, in the US, and the rest of the free and democratic West as well.
	Also look at specific examples of how this was accomplished.
	And name names of some of the figures who had been forging this psychiatric weapon.
	Now what he's talking about here is a weaponization, a political weaponization of psychology and psychiatry.
	He's not talking about the philosophical issue of the nature of mind.
	What is it to have a mind?
	Do animals have minds?
	How did human minds evolve from earlier primate sources?
	And so those are questions I address in my philosophical research, for example, on the nature of mind.
	Philosophy and Cognitive Science, Second Edition, if you can find it, really, really give you insights into the nature of mind and artificial intelligence and all that good stuff, free from any political interpretation or interference.
	Or, if you're willing to tackle this issue on a larger scale, the evolution of intelligence.
	Well, I'm talking about how behavior is related to biology.
	And there you'll see a whole discussion about the evolution of mind, animal mind, primitive origins, the whole bit.
	You'll learn a lot about evolution along the way, incidentally, which is usually lampooned.
	By suggesting it just reduces to random mutation and natural selection.
	Well, random mutation is one, but only one of four different mechanisms for producing greater genetic diversity, yielding a range of different organisms that then can compete with one another and with their environment in order to survive to reproduce.
	For natural selection, it says that those that are the best successful at adapting survive to reproduce, which is, of course, as a rule, correct, except there are other factors.
	Remember, genetic mutation is one but only one of four different mechanisms for producing genetic diversity.
	Sexual reproduction.
	That's what's important about sex in relation to evolution as opposed to romantic exchanges and the like.
	It's a source of genetic diversity because you have two contributors, each half of the chromosomes for a new organism that has a different combination of traits and therefore different Innate adaptive abilities in relation to an environment.
	Our research with twins has shown about 60% of our characteristics and traits are genetically inherited and the other 40% acquired environmentally.
	And then we have what's known as genetic drift.
	That's when you take a Subpopulation of the human population and it's in an isolated or remote area, not interacting, but only with itself and its environment.
	And this appears to be the origin of the races.
	That all human life originated in Africa, but that was distributed, dispersed.
	In different regions of planet Earth and by virtue of the challenges confronted, I mean contrast.
	Africa.
	Generally pretty constant environment, you know, hunter gathering by by animal hunting versus moving east going into Europe or Asia, where now you have winters.
	Now this season make a major difference.
	The adaptive capabilities of those who can survive and.
	A seasonally varied environment are going to be different, actually greater than those that can survive in the savannas of Africa.
	So we have, I don't know, it might be 26 different, clearly distinctive races, but we tend only to talk about three or four.
	In any case, you can learn a whole lot about it.
	Then the fourth is genetic engineering.
	Yeah, I could go in and artificially change.
	That's what they're doing with these Vax shots.
	They're actually changing our DNA and not for the better.
	That's a very, very telling illustration of how a modern technology can be used for good or for bad.
	It's like AI.
	Artificial intelligence techniques and I.
	They've published a lot on AI too, including perhaps most importantly AI, Artificial Intelligence in Scope and Limits.
	Wonderful at processing vast quantities of data, sorting, performing operations, mathematical, whatever.
	All these things can be done with a high degree of sophistication, and now, of course, they're moving toward these, uh, robotified, let me say.
	It appears part of the great reset is going to be to control your brain, your thoughts, so they can manipulate you.
	My research, and I think conclusively established, you cannot Turn.
	An inanimate machine into a thinking thing.
	You cannot do it.
	You can simulate thought processes, but it's not being done the same way.
	Things with the minds process information.
	It's not done the same way.
	And if my arguments are correct, then I've yet to see any.
	Significant rebuttal.
	Then you cannot turn an inanimate machine into a thinking thing.
	So what have they done?
	They're turning thinking things into more robotic-like machines.
	They've reversed.
	And here I think that their field is, theoretically, Completely feasible.
	You know, exercising forms of mind control.
	Especially, you know, electromagnetically and planning thoughts and all that.
	I have no doubt whatsoever all that is feasible and happens and it's part of the game plan.
	So when they eliminate 7.5 billion and leave only a half a billion, 500 billion, The service serves and slaves.
	The plan is to be able to control them.
	My electrode implants are various forms of mind control.
	I have no doubt that's the plan.
	Pretty scary stuff.
	Thank you.
	None of it, however, involves turning an inanimate machine into a thinking thing.
	So here you have James Corbett talking about how they want to weaponize psychology and psychiatry.
	This is in terms of, say, categories.
	Suppose, for example, you're pretty good at critical thinking, right?
	Taking things apart.
	You're not easily fooled.
	You're hard to play.
	Well, they could interpret that, you know, in a negative way, weaponize it as social resistance syndrome.
	You know, if you believe things that most people don't believe, then you're being resistant to the predominant views.
	And they treat it as though that were negative.
	Frankly, we need a whole Population of critical thinkers.
	I offered courses in logic, critical thinking and scientific reasoning for 35 years.
	The best of my ability.
	I'm seeking to extend.
	Those those abilities, those traits, because they're highly adaptive.
	And by the way, I left off, see, I talked about the four measures of speciation of genetic variation, random mutation, sexual reproduction, genetic drift, and genetic engineering.
	Similarly, there are four mechanisms of selection of determining which of the organisms in this genetically diverse pool survive to reproduce.
	And there by determined the character of the succeeding generations through reproduction.
	And those include not only natural selection competition among that's absolutely 100% one of them.
	There's also sexual selection.
	You know which which?
	Which members of the opposite sex of the?
	Are found to be most attractive for the purpose of.
	Reproduction.
	Yeah, who gets the dates roughly?
	Lots of ways to put it.
	We're all very familiar with this, then there's.
	Group selection.
	Group selection is extremely important.
	It has to do with how.
	Say a society is organized such as with a division of labor, so you have different elements within society performing different tasks to get outcomes that you would not get.
	If society were not organized that way with that division of labor, I have sometimes used just as simple an illustration as.
	Chicago Bulls football basketball team.
	Michael Jordan, Scottie Bibbin, Dennis Rodman.
	If you just change the positions players, put the players in different positions, or you change the composition, it's going to make an effect.
	Or you can take a, you know, a group of soldiers.
	Just as random soldiers versus organized into a rifle squad or add a machine gunner and a spotter and all that.
	We're talking about ways how the arrangement or organization of society can make a difference to the outcomes.
	And then of course there's artificial selection, that's actually intervening.
	To determine who reproduces or not, who lives or who dies.
	War can be regarded as a mode of artificial selection because it's bringing about death on a large scale.
	People who are dead do not reproduce.
	So the most familiar example for you might be, you know, horse farms.
	putting horses out to stud, charging fees to mate your stallion with a bear.
	So you got four different mechanisms of selection, too.
	You got natural selection.
	Thank you.
	Gregory, I'm on the air.
	I'll call you when I'm free.
	Thank you.
	Well anyway, while we wait here for Jim, Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Mitchell.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I just was telling the caller I'd call him back.
	So what I'm saying here is we have, you know, these four different mechanisms of selection, just as we have four different mechanisms of speciation.
	And where I have yet another book about how, you know, the politicalization of science render under Darwin is its title.
	About how the religious right is attacked, you know, evolutionary theory.
	I mean, all this stuff about God and, you know, a creator and intelligent design and all that.
	That's the sort of thing I have dealt with extensively in my career as a philosopher of science and published about.
	So you can take advantage of that if you're so disposed.
	A lot of my books are still available on Amazon.
	Where they got bananas is when I brought together groups of experts to explain that Sandy Hook had been a FEMA drill, that the Boston bombing was an orchestrated event using amputee actors, that Orlando, the permit for the club, it expired three years earlier, just like Sandy Hook.
	They took an abandoned club in this case.
	When the permit expired at The Pulse, they repainted it black to show that it was closed.
	And it had a four-bed white.
	It only had 11 parking spaces.
	It only had a legal occupancy of 150.
	They claim they had 300 in there to be packed in like sardines.
	And they produced a video that was supposed to be inside the club.
	And you saw all this open space.
	I mean, it's preposterous.
	Not physically possible to have 300 people.
	In that club and have them to be spaced out the way they're shown in the video.
	So either.
	The claim that were 300 people in there was fake or the video is fake or.
	They were both fake and they were both fake.
	Or Charlottesville Charlottesville completely contrived.
	Terry McAuliffe and the governor using Virginia State Police to channel the peaceful protesters over a removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee.
	And this statue removal business, by the way, is catastrophic.
	It's partial cultural Marxism to destroy our appreciation of our past, our heritage, our values, where we came from.
	What we've overcome as a nation.
	Such as a civil war for crying out loud was a statue being taken down where monuments of respect to the South.
	In recognition that they were good Americans who simply disagreed on some profound issues.
	But that were Americans were all Americans and move forward.
	And you got disgusting greetings like George Soros and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
	We're basically trying to exacerbate racial tensions that we long since overcame.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous beyond words.
	So in Charlottesville, they had a peaceful protest.
	They had permits.
	Just like in January 6, they had permits.
	But they're channeled into a violent confrontation with Antifa and BLM matters, which had been bussed in by George Sorosov and on the same bus.
	Then you had this bizarre incident where a guy who's supposed to be.
	A 20 year old schizophrenic is supposed to have driven a car into a crowd, well.
	I have found three different takes.
	Meaning that too is all set up Hollywood.
	Filming stuntman.
	In one of the takes, you got the car just driving into the crowd, no other vehicles in the vicinity, and in another, you see the car crash in the back of two vans, which had been parked there for at least five minutes, and there were no drivers in the van, because they didn't want him to suffer a whiplash.
	And when the driver backed out, I was astonished, because he handled that car with the skill of a NASCAR driver.
	And we got photographs.
	And it's not the 20-year-old schizophrenic who has heavy prescription glasses who has tried for the crime.
	It was a 32-year-old military veteran who commands a battalion of reservists in Ohio.
	I mean, it's what a scam.
	They got a third version, where there's a black Toyota pickup truck just to the side, and you see two stuntmen flying through the air.
	That's the one they put on the cover of the New York Times.
	So Charlottesville was a scam, too.
	Parkland!
	Ridiculous!
	It was Valentine's Day.
	They set the kids' homeroom at 1 o'clock.
	Because it was a holiday.
	There were 3,500 students there.
	If the students had been there, you would have had photos, cell phone videos, all this bit.
	Galore!
	Instead, there's miniscule, but among what we have is a 57 five-week video inside a classroom where you see the kids doing their best to pretend they're scared, but you got one girl really worried about her bottle.
	Bottle water is ubiquitous at these events.
	You see bottle water?
	That's a red flag.
	What you're watching is staged.
	The other's on her iPod.
	You got a kid pulling his putts.
	Then the camera swings around and you see there's a body on the ground in red stuff.
	But you look closer and it's a black training dummy that has no arms and no head lying on a pool of fake blood.
	They use fake blood in Boston, too.
	So when the cameras first zoom in through the smoke, you see bodies lying there, missing arms and legs, but there is no blood.
	As Lorraine Day has emphasized from the beginning, having been the head of trauma surgery at San Francisco General Hospital, you cannot have arms and legs blown off by explosives and there to be no blood.
	It's a physiological impossibility.
	And yet that's what we're shown.
	In Boston, you got bodies lying there, missing arms and legs, and there is no blood.
	The blood only shows up later.
	I initially thought it came out of tubes.
	You'll hear even, you know, in the promo for that book.
	And nobody died in Boston either.
	Which, by the way, is just sensational.
	You cannot believe how thorough is a documentation that the Boston bombing was a sham.
	I've even been given reason to believe that Steven Spielberg orchestrated the Boston bombing, directed it.
	I'm telling you, this shit just is unbelievable!
	Well, the government doesn't want the American people to know these are all phony events.
	That these are all orchestrated, that these are all designed to play on your emotion.
	Just as January 6th was orchestrated.
	They're just doing it on a bigger scale.
	They get away with it, they go on, they do more.
	Why they had to suppress my book on Sandy Hook, just as I explained.
	You're not supposed to understand that the government is pulling these scams off all the time.
	And as a friend emphasized to me the other day, he said, When they talk about people not coming forward, they don't realize these people are all under contract.
	They're under contract!
	The government goes into communities and sets it up and they sign contracts, including non-disclosure agreements for which they could be prosecuted where they'd violate back after this break.
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	Was it a conspiracy?
	Did you know that the police in Boston were broadcasting, this is a drill, this is a drill, on bullhordes during the marathon?
	That the Boston Globe was tweeting that a demonstration bomb would be set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities.
	And that one would be set off in one minute in front of a library, which happened as the Globe had announced.
	Peering through the smoke, you could see bodies with missing arms and legs.
	But there was no blood.
	The blood only showed up later and came out of a tube.
	They used amputee actors and a studio-quality smoke machine.
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	Yeah, key point, people don't appreciate.
	They're under contract.
	They can't talk about it.
	They run the risk of losing all the benefit.
	There turns out to be all kinds of fringe benefits if you go along with one of these phony FEMA events.
	You may not have to pay any taxes.
	How's that?
	I think a lot of people would sign up.
	You might get free college.
	I mean, all you gotta do is keep your mouth shut.
	So people give it a mouth shot.
	They got inducements.
	So when you hear, you know, some con man tell you, well, if it had been a fake, then people would have talked about it.
	It ain't necessarily so.
	If they're under contract, They may be unable to talk about it without incurring penalty or punishment on the one hand and losing benefits, many of which are financial on the other.
	They have good reason.
	So, you know, don't let yourself be played.
	And by the way, Brian Davidson, who's just a wonderful, brilliant guy that's a private investigator out of Texas, and I did a law enforcement false flag stage event checklist, which you can download.
	Just go on and do a search.
	The law enforcement false flag slash Stage event checklist and see if you can't find it.
	Now there are two versions.
	One has two dates.
	That's how you know it's the updated.
	It says updated.
	And the difference was they took my blog, right?
	I mean, in their effort to suffocate, to suppress all the information I had, they actually took my blog, jamesfetzer.org.
	They took it!
	And the book!
	Nobody died in sending it.
	They took the book.
	I mean, that's just insane.
	That's why I'm backing the Wisconsin Court of Appeals, because it was not even done in accordance with proper lawful procedure in Wisconsin.
	I mean, my lawsuit may turn out to be the greatest example of the weaponization of the law.
	It is grotesque from the beginning to the end, from the complaint to the conclusion.
	By the way, you know, Stormy Daniels was ordered to pay $300,000 to Trump for his legal expenses for Trump's legal expenses for Stormy Daniels?
	Would you imagine that was a far larger, vast, and more sprawling lawsuit than they're suing me for three sentences in a book that were supposed to be defamatory?
	Do you know how much a judge awarded in legal fees to the Posner team?
	$650,000!
	$650,000!
	And that's because I was trying to expose it.
	The guy who came and testified under the name of Leonard Bosner didn't look like, didn't resemble the Leonard Bosner.
	His photographs had been sent all over the world, and I made that point to the court.
	I said, Your Honor, I said, Why should there be all this concern over the image of the guy?
	I mean, his image has been all over the world, published millions of times, unless it's not the same guy.
	Fell on deaf ears.
	Fell on deaf ears.
	So here we got this wonderful guy, James Corbett.
	With that history in mind of how they have weaponized these psychiatric categories, you know, so that anyone who speaks the truth is supposed to be mentally ill.
	I mean, that's the idea.
	With that history in mind this week, I'll explore how the public has been trained to accept the pathologicalization of those peskiest of dissenters, the conspiracy realists.
	I'll also explain how the trigger has already been pulled on this psychiatric weapon and how it's impacting those who dare question the motives of our would-be rulers.
	Are you ready?
	Let's begin.
	Pathologizing Conspiracy.
	One of the most popular articles to be written in recent decades, and again, this is James Corbett.
	In recent decades of time, why do people believe in conspiracies?
	Well, I'd suggest because there's lots of evidence and because they're true!
	And because they're rational.
	But of course, they don't want to admit there could be evidence that a conspiracy theory could be true, or they could be irrational to believe.
	Quite the opposite.
	Start by noting the worrying rise in the number of people who believe in wild outlandish theories about how people in positions of power conspire to maintain their influence and expand their wealth!
	Why would anyone have any doubt that people in positions of power conspire to maintain their influence and expand their wealth?
	That's what they do!
	That's how they got to be in positions of power!
	The article's author then cites a psychologist who explained that well-meaning but emotionally unstable people typically latch onto these fantastical conspiracy theories because they help these poor deluded souls make sense of the world and offer them a feeling of control over an uncontrollable world.
	This is just silly!
	No, it's just because They want to figure out what's going on.
	They got a suspicion they're being lied to.
	They have evidence, reason to believe something's wrong.
	I mean, look!
	If the permit for the Pulse Club expired three years before, wouldn't there be a good reason to think there's something wrong about this mass shooting event claimed to have occurred there?
	If there are two or three different takes about the car hitting in Charlottesville, is there a reason to think there may be something funny going on there?
	Maybe it's not what we've been told?
	If you have people lying there missing arms and legs but there is no blood on the streets of Boston, is there a reason to think there's something funny going on there?
	Is that irrational?
	Is that trying to give you a feeling of control over an uncontrollable world?
	Hell no!
	Yes!
	You just want to know what the hell's going on, man!
	Next!
	The report offers advice to those who are seeking to disabuse anyone who's fallen for this conspiracy claptrap of their delusional notions.
	That advice, it turns out, is the same admonition given to someone coming upon a wild animal in the jungle.
	Don't confront the target directly or make them angry.
	Speak to them in soothing tones and pretend to listen to what they're saying and disengage if it seems they're preparing to attack.
	Really, what he's saying is just don't argue because they're going to present evidence.
	Make arguments.
	Use logic.
	So my God, that's the last thing you want to do if you're talking about Orlando or Charlottesville or the Boston bombing.
	But this article usually ends on a positive note.
	He's saying how many variations are the same article.
	If this wild conspiracy theorist you're talking to.
	Hasn't yet lost touch with the reality that it may be possible to talk them down from the ledge.
	You can gently create some cognitive dissonance in their mind by playing out that every conspiracy that has ever occurred in history has been exposed by whistleblowers.
	And reported on by journalists.
	And therefore.
	There is no such thing as a secret conspiracy.
	If they are of sound mind, this will be enough.
	Your confused friend will see the light and learn to trust government authority once again.
	You want to read the article?
	Would you like a link?
	Well, I don't have one link for you.
	I have dozens.
	You see, the curious thing about this, why do people believe in conspiracies article is that it hasn't been written just once or twice.
	It's been read hundreds of times.
	By hundreds of different journalists and it's been published by the BBC and FiveThirtyEight and Vox and the American Psychological Association and the New York Times and Psych Central and Addiction Center and LSU.
	And technology review and national geographic and very well minded business insider and psychology today and harvard and life science and scientific american and nbc news and the conversation and the intelligencer and time and the guardian and popular mechanics.
	And even the most prestigious of journalistic institution group.
	Yes group.
	And it's not only in written form.
	There's also a video report that's been filed by the BBC, and Channel 4, and CNBC, and Channel 4 again, and DNews, and StarTalk, and 60 Minutes, and Time, and DNews again, and Big Think, and Al Jazeera, and The Weekly, and Tech Insider, and Inverse, and Dr. Todd Grande, and Euronews, and CBS News, and the University of Chicago.
	And then I mentioned it's also a podcast?
	Well, it is!
	It's been produced by Able last year, and NPR, and Radio Times, and NPR again, and LSE, and Bill Gates, and NPR again, again, and the Ant Hill, and speaking of psychology, and NPR again, again, again, a big brain, and NPR again, again, again, again.
	So, are you starting to formulate The hypothesis that there may be some grand scheme of good here.
	Do you find yourself speculating that perhaps, just perhaps, there might be a coordinated effort to pathologize conspiracy theories in order to justify locking them away in padded cells?
	Do you find it interesting that the terms conspiracy theory and mental disorder We're forever linked in the public imagination when Richard Hofstadter penned his infamous 1964 essay in Harper's, Paranoid Style in American Politics.
	Or, the best remembered passage from that essay is one in which he describes the style of mind behind the conspiracy prone, Populous political movement of his era knows the paranoid style because no other word adequately evokes a sense of heated exaggeration, suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy that I have in mind.
	Or, that is caveats to that diagnosis, namely, and I'm not speaking in a clinical sense, but borrowing a clinical term for other purposes, and that I have neither the competence nor the desire to classify any figures of the past or present as certifiable lunatics or largely forgotten.
	Then the dinosaur media abundance and their psychiatric experts have a message for you.
	Shut up, conspiracy theorists, or I'm going to put you in a straitjacket.
	Don't believe me?
	Well, first they came from the truthers.
	The idea that those who believe in conspiracy theories are mentally unsound is, of course, not new.
	Witness how the subject was treated on Barney Miller, a popular American sitcom from the late 70s that centered on the exploits of a cast of detectives in the New York City Police Department in one episode from 1981.
	A man is arrested for breaking into the offices of the Trilateral Commission because, as he explains in an impassioned speech, that is bizarrely punctuated by canned laughter.
	What they are really up to is a scheme to plant their own loyal members in positions of power in the country, to work to erase national boundaries and create an international community, and in time, Bring about a one-world government with David Rockefeller calling the shots.
	Actually, that's not at all far-fetched.
	The man that presents his evidence of conspiracy in the form of articles and periodics like Conspiracy Review and Suppressed Truth Roundup.
	Barney Miller's sneering reaction, along with the ever-present laugh track, It's enough for the viewer to understand that this burglar, and by implication anyone who harbors views similar about the Trilateral Commission or other globalist institutions, is a dilutional criminal who deserves to be locked up for those beliefs.
	Or take the tinfoil hat conceit, as a crack journalist over at Vice helpfully explains.
	The concept of wearing a tinfoil hat to protect one's brain from government mind control was introduced into popular culture via Julian Huxley's 1927 story, The Tissue Culture King.
	In Huxley's tale, Caps of Mental Foil are used to mitigate the effects of a mad sinus telepathic hypnosis experiment.
	Since then, The tinfoil hat married madman has gone on to become a ubiquitous pop culture trope employed by lazy TV writers as an easy way to signal to the audience that someone is suffering from paranoid delusions about vast government conspiracies.
	Or take President Lyndon Johnson's advisor, John P. Roche, wrote a letter to Times Literary Subliman, picked up and reported on by Time in January 1968.
	In the letter, Roche dismisses conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination as a gospel of a priesthood of marginal paranoids and declared such theories An assault on the sanity of American society, and I believe in its fundamental sanity.
	Well, it's no coincidence that this guy was an advisor to LBJ.
	The plot to assassinate JFK originated in Los Angeles in 1960 when Jack beat Lyndon for the Democrat nomination.
	He invited Stuart Symington of Missouri to be his running mate, but gave him overnight to think about it.
	In the meanwhile, Bobby went by the Johnson suite to extend a symbolic pro forma gesture of inviting him to run with Jack on the ticket.
	He was dumbfounded when Lyndon jumped on it.
	Threatened to expose that JFK suffered from Addison's disease and therefore was not expected to live a long, healthy life.
	And among his dalliances had been one with a beautiful woman who turned out to be a spy for East Germany, information he'd learned from Edgar, who hated the Kennedys as much as Linton.
	And moreover, that if he were not on the ticket, And any legislative proposals sent down by the White House would be dead on arrival, because in his position as a powerful majority leader of the Senate, LBJ would bottle him up!
	Jack and Bobby were gobsmacked.
	They had no idea what to do.
	Lyndon had them boxed in.
	They were forced to accede to his demand.
	It was the only time in his political career that JFK had to rescind a decision, but in this case, he had no choice.
	When one of Linton's wealthy backers heard the news, he burst into the Johnson suite cursing and swearing because now LBJ would help JFK become president.
	Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind.
	He came out all smiles, saying he thought that was an excellent plan.
	Bobby Baker in public would subsequently declare that JFK would not survive his first term, that he would die a violent death.
	Linden would send his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
	information.
	So, is it a surprise that an advisor to Lyndon Johnson would dismiss conspiracy theories about JFK as the gospel of a priesthood of marginal paranoia?
	And declare such theories an assault on the sanity of American society?
	He's a propagandist!
	Lyndon was the brains behind it!
	I can't begin to tell you how much proof we have, including the testimony from those who knew Lyndon up close and personal, Madeleine Duncan Brown, But then we began an affair in 1948, Morrison-Stevens, 1950, with whom I had a hundred conversations.
	Now, Lyndon, the night before, at what was a ratification meeting at the home of Clint Murkison Sr., after appearing late in the evening unexpectedly in a board meeting of the power brokers deciding to go ahead with the assassination, he strode over to her and told her, And she said to me, she thought he was gonna whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
	Instead, he told her in a hateful tone of voice, I'm not gonna have to put up with embarrassment from those Kenny boys after tomorrow.
	That's not a threat.
	That's a promise.
	Then he called her and said the same thing the following day before the motorcade.
	And then six weeks later, During a rendezvous they had on New Year's Eve at the Disco Hotel in Austin, Texas.
	She confronted with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.
	And Lennon blew up at her.
	And told her the oil boys and the CIA had decided that Jack had to be taken out.
	Well, I'm telling you, Lennon wanted to be president of all the people.
	If you want to read a completely brilliant book that'll leave no doubt in your mind about his ruthless disposition, Phil Nelson, LBJ, mastermind of JFK's assassination, you gotta read it.
	There's been an effort here to distract by a book called The Devil's Chessboard by one David Talbot that wants some place to blame on Alan Dulles.
	Alan Dulles.
	Was a bureaucrat.
	Ridiculous.
	I took it apart.
	I was in a discussion thread with about two dozen very good people on JFK.
	Solas didn't do it.
	He wasn't in a position.
	I'll tell you how bad it is.
	Lee Oswald was actually staying in the doorway of the Book Depository when the motorcade passed by.
	So not only can he not have been the lone, demented gunman, he cannot have even been one of the multiple shooters, and his regular listeners are well aware.
	I've identified six.
	Name, rank, number, the shots they took, the effects they had, only Damagard the 7th, with which I agree we've got the 8th, one and only 8th.
	It was on the South Knoll behind a tree there.
	You wouldn't think there was room for an assassin to hide, but I've seen photographed two different experts.
	Two different photographs holding his rifle.
	Where each of the groups who were sponsoring the assassination of Berto put up their own shooter.
	So we had a CIA shooter.
	This was a guy who became a Dallas Cobb.
	Roscoe White.
	We had a mob shooter, I believe that was Frank Sturges, who may have been the best shot in the world at the time.
	We had a military, Jack Lawrence, inside the Triple Underpass, an Air Force expert.
	We had an Anacostro-Cuban in the Daltex, where he's actually being supervised by George Herbert Walker Bush.
	We had Lyndon Johnson personal hitman, Malcolm McWallace, murdered a dozen people for letting one of his own sisters.
	I mean, this is to give you an inkling of what was actually going on.
	We got an Israeli shooter in the Pergola area.
	Represent a Bronfen family.
	I mean.
	It's just disgusting what happened there.
	There were 10 or 12 shots fired.
	The idea of three shots?
	No, that's because only one weapon was left unsilenced.
	It was a Mandlaker car, Kano, being filed by the Anacastor Cuban Nestor Tonius Scadro in the Daltax to set up the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
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	Even the government admits that 9/11 was a conspiracy.
	But did you know that it was an inside job?
	That Osama had nothing to do with it?
	That the Twin Towers were blown apart by a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes?
	That Building 7 collapsed seven hours later because of explosives planted in the building?
	Barry Jennings was there.
	He heard them go off and felt himself stepping over dead people.
	The U.S.
	Geological Survey conducted studies of dust gathered from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Ironically, that means the government's own evidence contradicts the government's official position.
	9-11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the neocons in the Department of Defense, and the Mossad.
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	Well, Corbett's got this really, really good piece, which I'm republishing on my blog.
	So later today, you can check it out at jameshfetzer.org. - Yeah.
	And by the way, I did a review of the January 6th event and the absurdities thereof.
	David Zubler have new information I hadn't covered before you can find on my Twitter and my Twitter or my bit you channel Jim Fetzer.
	Twitter at Jim Fetzer.
	So here it continues, you know, after Lyndon Johnson's apologist.
	Take the various examples of the.
	Pathologicization of conspiracy theorizing pointed out by Lance de Havilland Smith in his modern-day classic, Conspiracy Theory in America.
	Initially, conspiracy theories were not an object of ridicule and hostility.
	Today, however, the conspiracy theory label is employed routinely To dismiss a wide range of anti-government suspicions as symptoms of impaired thinking akin to superstition or mental illness.
	For example, in a massive book published in 2007 on the assassination of President Kennedy, and it runs around, I add, around 1,500 pages, former prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi says people who doubt the Warren Commission report are As kooky as a $3 bill in their beliefs and paranoia.
	Similarly, in his recently published book, Among the Truthers, Harvard 2011, Canadian journalist Jonathan Kaye, reversed in 9-11 conspiracy theorists and political paranoiacs, have lost their grip on the real world, making a similar point, if more colorfully.
	In his popular book, Wingnuts, journalist John Avalon refers to conspiracy believers as moon bats, patriots, wingnuts, and the fright wing.
	Certainly, there's no shortage of commentators perpetuating the idea that conspiracy theorizing is a form of mental illness.
	But it wasn't until the post-11 era of terroromaniac panic accompanied by the rise of the Homeland Security state that the trigger was pulled on the loaded gun that is a psychiatric weapon.
	Let me just say, I knew Vince.
	Jesse Ventura, with whom I have a long relationship with Jesse when he was governor.
	Came up to Duluth during his Weekly Friday Governor's Radio Show and spent 15 minutes talking about this public-private aquarium that was in financial trouble in Duluth, and 45 minutes talking with me about my first in the original trilogy, Assassination Science, where I brought together the experts and we proved the assassination had been shattering the cover-up.
	Altering the x-rays, substituting another brain, raising real questions about the subroutine film and the like.
	But then Jesse would, when he was back at Harvard after serving as governor, fly me back to give a conspiracy lecture at Harvard on the assassination, perhaps the only ever given there.
	He'd have me on his Jesse Ventura's America with Beverly Oliver, actually witnessed the blowout of the head, which he was filming in Dealey Plaza.
	Aubrey Reich, who is the ambulance driver, felt the blowout of the back of the head when he participated in lifting the body into the bronze ceremonial casket.
	And me to explain how they altered the x-rays that concealed the blowout.
	And then later on his, uh, Conspiracy theories show how he'd fly me out to Ventura County and Jesse actually took his name Ventura from Ventura County and liked the name.
	To verify that they were replicating the alleged shooting of Lee Oswald properly, where Jesse had a far superior man like Gargano is much better shot than Lee was supposed to be and Lee was terrible.
	And when we did three replications, I mean, I was there to, you know, use stationary bales of hay to represent the limousines, the targets, and to make sure the angles and the distances were correct.
	And mind you now, these were stationary targets.
	We're in three replications, none of which really quite satisfied the time constraint of six and a half seconds or so.
	He managed to hit one target one time.
	And again, stationary.
	So I'm a fan of Jesse.
	We had dinner together with Vince Mugliosi in St.
	Paul after Vince got an honorary degree, a law degree from Hamlin.
	And it's one of my favorite photographs of me with the two of them.
	And if you go to GiveSendGo.com, funding FEDSER, this is You know, my legal defense fund donation site.
	I put up the photo of Jesse and Vince and me now in his book.
	Vincent Bugliosi says that mine, and he's talking now about Assassination Science 1998, Murder in Dealey Plaza 2000, and the Grades of Brutal Film Hoax 2003, are the only exclusively scientific books ever published on the assassination.
	Saying that, why didn't he take our results to heart?
	I mean, he's now gone on to greener pastures.
	I believe Vince was actually paid a million bucks to put his name on the book.
	It's not a good book.
	But then how could a book defending the Warren Commission be a good book when we know Lee Oswald was standing in the doorway of the book depository?
	But here we have Lyndon Johnson's advisor assuring us that conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination are the gospel of a priesthood of marginal paranoid.
	And that such theories are an assault on the sanity of American society.
	Well, if you don't want to know the truth.
	So.
	And this guy, Jonathan Kaye, is just a scumbag among the truthers.
	I've had discussion with others who are trashed by this guy.
	Very, very bad stuff.
	I mean, embarrassing.
	Certainly, he has.
	No shortage of commentators perpetuating the idea of conspiracy theorizing in the form of mental illness that took off with Homeland Security after 9-11.
	Of course, 9-11, I mean, I've done a huge amount.
	I've founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth.
	Let me say, by the way, this last week I was involved in a debate about 9-11.
	With Michael Shermer, I mean, it was odd in a way, because Shermer didn't show up.
	So Rick Shattuck, who's been organizing the debates for 10 years, figured out a way to work around it by using an interview.
	That Schumer had done on C-SPAN, and there were a lot of callers, as his presentation, and then I commented on what he had to say.
	Now you can find the debate at anitaaneta.org slash anitaaneta.org slash debate slash 2023.
	And it's interesting, it's up on Vimeo and something about Vimeo is you can upgrade, you can make improvements.
	So originally I was on the side, but Rick is now, I don't know, I haven't seen the latest version, but he's going to have me side by side with Michael Shermer.
	And I go through, you know, I comment on every point that Shermer makes, and honest to God, you gotta watch this thing to just see how grossly Michael Shermer misrepresents the evidence about 9-11.
	Now, it's an interesting choice, because as Rick explains at the beginning, how we seem to be pretty evenly matched.
	Matt Shermer earned his Ph.D.
	in the history of science at Claremont.
	I earned my Ph.D.
	in the philosophy of science at Indiana.
	Then he got a B.S.
	at Pemberdine.
	I got my B.A.
	at Princeton.
	He's a professor at Claremont, and I'm a professor emeritus at the University of Minnesota.
	He's a founder and editor of Skeptic Magazine, where I'm the founder and chair of Scholars for 9-11 Truth.
	At the time he had 6,199 citations with a Hirsch index of 29, and I had 4,202 citations with a Hirsch index of 34.
	Now we both have articles or entries in Wikipedia.
	Let me explain that Hirsch index thing.
	Rick likes that because it's a measure of scholarly impact.
	A Hirsch index of 29 means that Michael Shermer has at least 29 articles that have each received at least 29 citations.
	So if I have a Hershey index of 34, then I have at least 34 articles that have at least 34 citations apiece.
	And I, this 4202, I mean, I get almost every day a notion of another mention or a citation of one of my articles, and I think it's up to about a thousand more citations.
	Anyway, you certainly got it right that we were well matched credentially.
	And you just have to make your assessment an assessment for yourself.
	Whether you think intellectually or in terms of argument or evidence.
	That it's a close call.
	I leave it to you.
	Again, I repeat.
	Anita, A-N-E-T-A.
	It sounds like a bad association for 9/11 truth.
	A-N-E-T-A.
	I'm looking at it on caps.org slash debate slash 2023, because as I say, there have been 10 of these.
	So this was a 10th annual debate.
	And the emphasis was on scientific issues.
	So here he's got a background in the history of science and I in the philosophy of science.
	And he's, of course, a great skeptic.
	As you'll find, I suggest I believe we have here an instance of Lenin's observation that the best way to control the opposition is to lead it.
	We're getting the core of it.
	Of course, the post-911 decade was filled with academics, journalists, and talking heads of various tribes conflating, conspiracy theorizing with mental illness.
	Exactly as the pre-911 era had been, heeding Bush the Younger's injunction to never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th.
	Political commentators of all strife began a campaign of vitriol directed against 9-11 truthers that began to ratchet the conspiracy and sanity rhetoric to new heights.
	Bill Maher's joke that truthers should stop asking me to raise this ridiculous topic on the show and start asking your doctor if Paxil is right for you.
	Help to fertilize the soil for the likes of Winnipeg Sun columnist Stephen Ripley, who then diagnosed 9-11 truthers as suffering from paranoid delusions.
	These announcements were made in the public.
	With a fulmination of TV talking heads on both the left and right side of the political spectrum, that necrotizing conspiracy theory radicalism is a danger to society, and that the crazy truthers perpetuating these delusions need to be treated as potential terrorists.
	But the campaign to demonize 9-11 truthers as psychologically disturbed and potentially violent criminals who need to be taken off the streets has not stopped at harsh words and strong rhetoric.
	Institutions and authorities have now begun trying to literally declare truthers and other conspiracy theorists as insane as a way of silencing political dissent.
	Well, When it comes to 9-11, you got a pre-fair exchange here of two points of view.
	Michael Shermer, who basically upholds the 9-11 commission report, and I, who seek to dismember it.
	It is unworthy.
	I mean, just to make a couple of obvious points, half a dozen or more of the 19 alleged Islamic terrorists who were supposed to commentear the four commercial carriers and perpetrated half a dozen or more of the 19 alleged Islamic terrorists who were supposed to commentear the four commercial carriers and perpetrated these atrocities under the control of a guy off in
	Make contact with the British media.
	David Ray Griffin, the Dean of 9-11 Research, I mean, at the very first point in his magisterial book, the 9-11 Commission Report of Omissions and Distortions.
	Well, if they're alive, then they didn't die in any suicide crashes, right?
	But the FBI has not revised its list of the 19.
	It's got the same 19, including the names of the half a dozen or so that showed up alive and well the following day.
	And the guy up in the cave in Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden, was our man in Afghanistan.
	He was instrumental in getting the Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen, which they used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and planes and drive them out of that godforsaken region.
	Osama was an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
	An official from the agency visited him in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death from his medical maladies.
	It's tough to get dialysis machines in and out of those caves in Afghanistan.
	On 15 December 2001, he was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
	There were local obituaries by the 26th of December.
	Both Fox News and CNN had caught up with the news and were reporting that Osama was dead.
	Well, the Chair of Scholars on the website, the remnants of which you can find at 911scholars.org, we're publishing about the fake Osamas, the fake videos and all that.
	Nonsense.
	Where Barack Obama found it politically expedient to resurrect Osama and have him die again in a stage raid on a compound in Pakistan.
	Where the local residents said they'd never seen Eidner hair of Osama and wouldn't show him the photograph of the guy holding the TV clicker.
	They said that was a, uh, that was a, the owner of the compound.
	and most definitely not Osama bin Laden.
	But Barack Obama found it so beneficial, you see, Position himself as a guy who got the most wanted man in the world for a triumphal re-election that, you know, this is the way it went.
	I have exposed this multiple places.
	Look, I even published, you know, made a movie about the raid on the compound.
	Zero Dark Thirty.
	And I published a piece about Zero Dark Thirty, The Deeper Darker Truth.
	You can find this in my book about the moon landing.
	You know, I not only have on the moon landing, I got a whole lot of chapters about the death of Paul McCartney as a replacement by an even better musician, the most controversial issue I ever addressed.
	I get more expressions of outrage over that than they do about the Holocaust.
	But also two chapters about the death and replacement of Saddam Hussein, where the real Saddam actually died on the 7th of April.
	2003, just three weeks into the attack, and a B-1 bomber attack on a assault on a restaurant on the outskirts of Baghdad, taking out Osama, his two sons, and 50 or 60 members of his general staff.
	So he replaced him by one of his doubles, whom they put on trial, and then Hank.
	And then about how Osama was our man in Afghanistan.
	There's a lot of good stuff there.
	That's my favorite, actually, of my books.
	And I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, which Mike Palachuk suggested as a title for the sequel to our first book, Nobody Died in Sandy Hook.
	Hearing the title of which they might very well say, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
	And yeah, no, we didn't go to the moon either.
	And nobody died in Sandy Hook.
	And, you know, we live and we learn.
	If you go to my blog now, we're talking here about this wonderful piece by James Corbett.
	Go to my blog at jameshfetzer.org and look for jimtheconspiracyguy.com where there's 65 shows.
	And you're going to find there's 65 shows I did in less than one year.
	I think it was between May and November I did 65 shows on this channel that had been supported by a follower, Jim the Conspiracy Guy.
	And look at how to spot a false flag part one, how to spot a false flag part two.
	I think for part two, you gotta scroll down.
	The first one somehow didn't take, but it's all there.
	Then there's a whole lot more, including one about Parkland, by the way, you're gonna love, but it's about how Gary Noll kicked me off of his progressive radio network out of New York for exposing Parkland.
	I mean, it was just stunning to be a guy who poses as a champion of free speech.
	Gave Jim Fetzer the boot because he was explaining the fraud that was Parkland.
	Wow.
	You're going to find a whole lot of good stuff there, but anyone who has a doubt or, you know, you have any doubts about whether who's insane, you know, who's pulling our chain, who's lying to us.
	This is why they have to go after the conspiracy theorists so aggressively.
	Unbelievable.
	Well, James Corbett's done a wonderful job.
	Sorry not taking calls today, but I just wanted to share so much.
	I'm very, very impressed with James Corbett.
	As I say, you'll be able to find it on my blog here in short order.
	I should have it up within 30 minutes, I would say.
	It's going to be up there.
	Really good stuff.
	And, you know, keep the faith.
	Don't let yourself be played.
	It's those who are attacking the conspiracy theorists Conspiracy theorists.
	This is also on my blog.
	Conspiracy theorists are investigating crimes, typically ones that lead back to the federal government.
	That's why they want to suppress us.
	There's also a wonderful piece there about Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was being attacked for, I don't know, seven or eight different grounds.
	I looked into the seven or eight different grounds, and Marjorie Taylor Greene was right on every single one of them.
	And this January 6th stop being exposed is very important.
	Because it means a lot of people who in the past would have been skeptical might have their eyes open by the realization that this was a huge, huge scam.
	Huge scam!
	So I want to thank you all for being here, of course.
	Lots of resources there.
	Check out my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer.
	I'll get the debate up there, too.
	I'll get the debate up there, too.
	And my critique about January 6th and how it was used to complete the coup, that's a must-listen, in my opinion.
	That is so damn important.
	So, of course, there are going to be trolls that are going to try to debunk it.
	I mean, that goes with the territory.
	They are ubiquitous.
	But the fact is, we do have the resources to sort out the truth, and that's why they have to attack the conspiracy theorists, because they're exposing crimes that lead back to the government.
	So the government's going to do everything it can to forestall being implicated, up to and including past presidents of the United States.
	So thanks for being here.

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