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Jan. 17, 2023 - Jim Fetzer
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THE NEW JFK SHOW #276 More on Super Spook Charlette Bustos
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Got it.
Welcome to the new JFK Show number 176.
It's Miss Charlotte Bustos.
Am I pronouncing that correctly, Larry?
No, it's Sherry now.
S-H-E-R-R-I.
Sherry, Sherry, Sherry.
Wow.
I didn't know about that.
So, all right, we got Dr. Fetzer here.
This is one mysterious woman here that Larry's zeroing in on.
Come to find out the new documents are bringing out more information on Ms.
Bustos, that is.
So, go ahead, Larry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are we good for that, Gary?
Yes, you are.
Ready to roll.
Okay, so I can do a screen share.
Sharing, huh?
Sharing, sharing.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
After four shows, she's not Charlotte anymore?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
And this is the reason why documents that were released previously, in this case, this one, 1994, acquire new significance when we, you know, bring them in with the new documents that were released after 2017.
All right, Jim and Gary.
So, in itself, it's innocuous, as it looks, because it just says, Personal History Statement, Zerum, okay?
And at this moment, in 1994, as you see here, we didn't even know what Zerum meant.
That surname, or anything, And the way we do now, where we have been able to connect it to Charlotte.
Bustos from the cables of October.
In my book I call them the cables of October, you know, as in reference, you know, the missiles, you know, because they have the same significance here, you know.
And those were the two cables that she shot off on October 9th and 10th, which were belated much, you know, because if Lee Oswald was You know, in the Soviet embassy and the Mexican, the Cuban embassy, at the end of September, early October, then why is this cable coming out more than a week later?
You know, so belated.
So anyway, we get this, and this is a personal history statement, and it pertains to one Charlotte Louise Zierung, Hello!
So, Ann, she is permanent address, you know, Washington, D.C., but her entire roots are from Dayton, Ohio.
You know, placid Dayton, Ohio at the time.
And this whole document here, as you will shortly see, shows her mother, everything, you know, from the beginning.
You know, we did a show already or two on this woman and her importance there at the Mexico City Station.
But we never were able to get this type of detail.
And even though it was already there, we couldn't connect it to her because of the difference in surname.
Because Zerong has nothing to do with Bustos, correct?
It only happens when she marries Cesar Bustos, the Argentinian professor, in 1961, while she is working at the Mexico City Station.
So, I don't want to bore you guys with all this minutiae, but as we go down here,
This is her original CIA application where they asked her for everything, you know, her father right here, you know, relatives who were in the military, and I found this one of extreme importance because it says, relatives by blood or marriage in the military or civil service of the U.S.
government Of the U.S.
or a foreign government.
And clearly it says her cousins, two cousins and an aunt, were working for the military slash intelligence apparatus at the time.
So obviously to me, this is her gateway into the CIA.
It's very obvious to me.
And this is her original CIA application.
And it was even typewritten, you know, she had to type it out.
And this is the clue right here that shows how she was nudged into that position of the CIA, which culminated in her being in Mexico City at the time that Lee Oswald, you know, supposedly was there, which we all know that did not happen.
And it enhances her role, you know, in the fabrication of what happened in Mexico City, you know, because if she is the one who is sending these cables, all right, and creating this back all right, and creating this back paper trail, okay, going back, you know, after the fact, which is what I think happened.
And also, you know, we mentioned before, you know, in our previous program, you know, that a couple of prominent authors have also come up with that opinion.
So, you know, this is what I was looking at.
And, you know, all of a sudden at the end of this file, we find this.
Charlotte, and this is when she got married, when she changed her name, when she married, or supposedly married, Cesar Bustos, okay, the Argentinian, who had been working in Washington for, I think, 14 years in some kind of Argentinian attache arrangement between The military in Argentina and the U.S.
and he was actually working in Washington.
Actually, that's how they met.
All right, but I don't want to bore you guys any more than necessary here, but going further down, okay, this is where I think the importance of the changing of her surname, you know, from
Charlotte Bustos-Videla, which essentially gives her a completely new identity.
If you can see here, Dayton, Ohio, and going down here, Remember we were talking about, in the previous show, about how they went to investigate her entire family and they wanted to know exactly, remember that?
Well, this is the document that shows that entire family, okay, starting from the father up here, Javier Bustos, who was deceased 1950, and then the mother, Otilia Videla de Bustos.
Now, this is right here why it's so important, because in Spanish society and Spanish countries like this, you know, we're talking about you keep the surname of the mother, okay, which you do not keep in the U.S., all right?
So, this would be the mother's last name, okay, is Ophelia Videla, and When they say De Bustos here, it actually means, you know, literally belonging to Bustos, you know, of the family or of that man, you know.
So, and that's how it is in, you know, in every Latin American, Spanish-speaking countries, you know.
The woman keeps her, if she's going to keep her maiden name, she has to add D.E.
and then the last name of her husband, in this case, DeBustos, all right?
And this is the mother, this is, okay, Charlotte Bustos' husband, Caesar, her, his mother, Okay, his dad is deceased, 1950, and then, after that, all the brothers!
I mean, remember, we were talking about, oh, there's like 11 brothers, you know, and sisters?
Well, here they are, you know, one after another.
Javier, Armando, Arturo, Gustavo, Humberto, on and on, you know, in this document.
Yeah, they don't do a background check if you're getting into the royal family.
Yeah, you know, even going down to where, at the top, a little bit further up, where he actually had a daughter with a woman with which he lived in Washington while he was stationed there.
Remember, he was there for 14 years, you know, and her name was Sylvia Aurea Bustos, all right?
Let me see if I can pull that up here real quick.
Another thing, as you can see in all these documents—here she goes.
Silvia Aurea, okay?
Let me zoom in here.
All right.
Silvia, daughter-in-law, okay, of Charlotte, date of birth 1952, citizenship in the USA, but she's living in San Juan, Argentina.
All right.
And we're talking about at the time when, you know, she's.
Hold on.
All right.
So we're talking about at the time where, you know.
1952, 1953, and she's still living, you know, here in Washington, in Washington, but going back and forth, you know, to Mexico and her TDYs, you know, as as shown in.
and all these documents.
But the thing about this is that her husband, the one that she married, supposedly, you know, and another thing that Charlotte never had any kids, you know, Except for this step-daughter that appears here in these documents.
So, Charlotte, you know, after—let me get back over here.
Okay.
Remember we were going here?
Yeah.
Okay.
And here we go.
All right.
Sorry if I go back and forth here.
Relatives by blood or marriage in the military or civil service, the U.S.
or a foreign government.
A cousin, 38 years old.
Major Jack Macklin, 31.
Don't you think that's a young age to be a major, Jim?
Yeah.
Well, it's okay.
I mean, that would make sense.
If he was very good, he'd be in the first of his class to be promoted.
It could fit, but it would imply he's very highly qualified and competent.
Or connected.
Well, possibly.
And the other cousin, you know, Colonel Paul, You know, 38.
So anyway, this is her actual, you know, these are her actual roots.
And I believe that this is how she was... She was born to be a spook!
Like we said, you know, and I'm glad that we were able to get these marvelous images of her.
Okay.
The other is much more flattering than this latest.
Oh yeah, of course.
That's a copy of a black and white.
There you go, there you go.
Blue, it says the blue.
Sherry, and okay, did I show you guys?
Okay, this is what I want to show you.
Sherry, Sherry, Sherry, Sherry.
Sherry, Sherry, Sherry.
Sherry, Sherry.
Uh-huh.
Here we go.
Okay.
Charlotte, right here.
Nickname?
Sherry.
Sherry.
Hello.
I wonder what San Ray Gardens in Dayton 9, Ohio.
I wonder where that is.
We haven't checked out any GPS things.
Any GPS data, obviously.
So, that's...
Basically what we have on Charlotte, you know?
So, the thing about this here is that I wanted to show you guys about Mr. David.
And, oh, here we go.
This is, here we go.
Okay.
Abbreviations mentioned in Charlotte Bustos' 201 file, okay, in which she was involved.
That's right.
Counterintelligence, foreign intelligence, which means recruitment of foreign intelligence agents to work in the framework of whatever.
And I would have to say immediately that that would have been Lee Empty, the photographic program, and Lee Envoy, the wiretap operation, you know, that was going on.
and Cuban embassies.
And everybody thought she was a secretary, right?
A dumb...
No, no, no.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
So, this here, this is what I wanted to get to.
Okay.
Now, one of the first Okay, Jim, I'm getting a little tired here.
So why is this change of name important?
In 1994, one of the first documents released after the 1992 ARB mandate was a personal history statement of an individual only identified of Zeyrong 104-10110-103.
This PHS personal history statement included Charlotte Xeron's original application to the CIA and a trove of personal information about this woman nicknamed Sherry.
And her immediate and part of her extended family, such as two cousins and an aunt, were in the military intelligence services.
Equally as important, the second part of this file gives a complete breakdown of her new husband's family in Argentina.
Exactly as surmised above, Busto's entire family was Busto Fidelia, where Fidelia, or is it Videla?
Videla, yeah, Videla.
Mandela was his mother's surname, one which should never have made its way into Charlotte's new name and identity.
With this document flying under the radar, and with the very belated release of her 201 file, it is now possible to surmise that her marriage and name change were done with a purpose in mind.
Cesar Bustos' family tree clearly shows Vedela as his mother's maiden name, and all of his siblings conserving this name, as is the custom in Latin America and Spanish-speaking countries.
That's right.
It's just, you know, like if, you know, your mother's last name, you know, sticks onto your identity card or whatever, your license, you know, it doesn't happen here in the States.
You know, but here, you know, not only does she switch her name from Zerun, okay, she switches her name to Bustos Vedela, which had nothing to do, you know, Vedela shouldn't have even been in the picture here.
You know, and, you know, as I showed earlier, you know, here, Ophelia, Othelia, Othelia Vedela de Bustos, you know, and how that works.
And, you know, how this whole thing, you know, attains a whole different meaning, you know, regarding her in Mexico City, you know, with, you know, the cables and everything.
And she's the one that's creating the paper trail of Lee Oswald, okay?
So I have to, oh, man, it's crazy, you know, but, you know, I have to submit, Jim, that she might have had something to do with creating, you know, those, that paper trail of cables, you know, belated cables, you that paper trail of cables, you know, belated cables, you know, October the 9th and 10th.
You know, implicating Lee Oswald, you know, in interactions, you know, they could not prove, you know, neither by photograph or by, you know, wiretap, you know, Which they had covered, you know, so it's frustrating.
Yeah, I think that's very plausible, Larry.
And it still troubles me that Judith, who insists Lee went to Mexico City when he—clearly his visit was a fabrication.
I mean, you know, something does not add up.
Of course, of course, I agree, I agree, you know, but, you know, we're beyond that, you know, it's, you know, we're well beyond.
Yeah, you're right.
You know, just, you know, in the sense that, you know, we're finding out about this woman that was almost at the par of David Morales.
It's no, you know, nothing to be sneezed at or anything like that.
You know, I think this woman, you know, and her qualifications and everything that's contained in the file that we find out about her, you know, now in 2017, after, you know, going forward, now even 2022, you know, which, you know, contains so much evidence which, you know, contains so much evidence of her being very important and her, and since her name is on those very important cables, you know.
Not only that, you know, the information that's in this chapter of the book, you know, that shows, you know, her HSCA testimony and how she avoided, you know, so many, you know, lines of inquiry and everything.
I can't recall.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's just... She was very clever.
So this is how it shapes up, you know.
I thought that she was part of the Lee Envoy chapter, you know, as just, you know, one of the, you know, players, but, you know, more and more information started to come out where, you know, I had to give her a chapter of her own.
Larry, this is all such sensational stuff, what you're doing here with This is wonderful!
So, you know, and this is all from the new—I mean, now almost six years, Jim, five years, you know, of, you know, research, you know, since, you know, the 2017, the summer of 2017, when these documents first came out, you know, and this is, you know, they're gonna say, oh, you know, there's no—there's nothing in there, you know, that gives you— To give you, you know, a smoking gun or anything like that.
But, you know, of course not.
But if you know, you know, like I've been saying so many times, you know, so many years, where to place that piece of the puzzle, you know, where it belongs, then you start to see the larger picture, you know.
So, anyway, let me see.
Oops, we were down to Charlotte.
No, no, no, no, no.
So, uh-oh.
Larry, if there were prizes for JFK research, you deserve them, believe me.
He gets the next 100% Truth or Trophy.
Yeah, but I don't need them.
Okay.
My comparison of these two individuals is right here, and it has to do with, okay, that Ted Shackley, the Blonde Ghost, okay, who was David Morales'
Devin Morales is immediate supervisor, okay?
And Ted Shackley submits this memo on Charlotte Bustos, okay?
And we're going, she's going for GS11, I mean GS13, sorry, to GS14, recommendation for promotion.
Now, this is one that we need to really focus on.
This is one that I wanted to, you know, For the rest of the show here, and maybe we can elicit some comments.
And who is the author, Larry?
Ted Shackley, right here at the bottom.
Ted Shackley, okay, good, good.
Theodore Shackley, Chief Western Hemisphere.
Wow, that's precious.
We're talking about the big leagues, the big leagues.
Yes, yes we are, yes we are.
Number one, it is recommended that Charlotte Bustos Videla be promoted from GS-13 to GS-14 too.
The performance of this officer has been characterized for many years by all of her superiors as consistently strong to outstanding.
She has been able to establish herself as indispensable in each headquarters, branch, or field, station, and assignment, usually functioning as the backbone of the unit to which assigned.
Since return to headquarters in September 1972 from her field assignment in Mexico, her performance has been entirely congruent with the thrust of the field station's enthusiasm over her ability, performance, attitude, and growth potential.
She is currently chief of the Cuban and CA, Covert Action Section of her branch.
It has established once again her mastery over her assigned duties.
She is the kind of sound, dependable, yet imaginative officer greatly appreciated by her supervisors.
In short, she is a true professional and performs beyond her grade level.
Oh, by the way, she was 5'8", 125.
Blue eyes.
Blue eyes.
In brown hair.
Three, in regard to her potential, she has served in the agency since 1951, starting as a secretary stenographer and advancing brilliantly with each new challenge offered.
She achieved professional status in 1953 and has spent the bulk of her time since then specializing in Latin American affairs, demonstrating total flexibility in assignments, a voracious appetite for work, and a penchant for exceptionally precise and thorough productions. and a penchant for exceptionally precise and thorough productions.
A review of her career to date can lead to the conclusion that she has always risen successfully to each new professional challenge and is still far from reaching her maximum capacities.
While she has had little supervisory experience in the field, her supervisor was of the opinion that she is a natural leader.
This has been borne out in her performance in her current capacity as Branch Section Chief, in which she has demonstrated exemplary supervisory ability, notwithstanding her desire, aggressiveness, and professional appointment.
Her drive.
Yeah.
She is a popular co-worker, is receptive to guidance, and sensitive and responsive to the needs of her subordinates.
Wow!
What else can you say for this girl, man?
What a review!
She's no ordinary lover, I'll tell you that.
This is terrific.
You gotta tell me, you know, see, and the cables of October say, see, bustos.
Yeah.
That's it!
Okay, like, this is, you know, As though she were still a secretary.
Stenographer.
Yeah, okay, that's better.
Four.
This employee has utilized her fluency in the Spanish language to maximum advantage in her work.
Formal testing recently confirmed her high proficiency in that language, coupled with a comprehensive training record and her invaluable experiences over a 20-year period, she has become particularly effective in Latin American operations and operational support, demonstrating excellence in each of
Several recognitions, including C-I. Counterintelligence, counterintelligence. Operations, functional support, reports and requirements, area support, and varied covert action activities.
Are you kidding me?
You know, right there, you know what you're talking about.
The empty and the envoy.
Hey!
Excuse me.
We're talking serious shit, Larry.
That's what I'm...
Five.
The officer's adaptability, high intelligence, and mastery over trade was of inestimable value to Mexico City stations in over a five-year period.
From 1967 to 1972, she functioned as the station's internal troubleshooter.
Her duties included the Maintenance.
Probably.
You know what?
You know what?
They redacted it.
The Envoy and the Empty.
The Envoy and the Empty.
Really?
Target analysis, report writing, operational support, handling of.
That would probably be counterintelligence agents and special assignments as a chief of station's executive assistant.
And you know what?
Handling of blank agents.
We're talking about F.I.
agents, which are foreign intelligence agents.
Yeah, sure.
In that regard, she's talking about Raymond Horan and Oliver Scantling.
You know, it's very obvious.
Maybe presidents of Mexico, Larry.
Meanwhile, her absence from her new job is felt sorely by the branch.
on by the office of training to administer specialized training.
And she was chosen recently to attend the mid-career course ending in December 1972.
Meanwhile, her absence from her new job is felt sorely by the branch. - I'm sure. - It is expected that her current assignment will last about two years, seven in summary.
And you know which current assignment is that?
It's the one that we did not divulge in the last show, which we are going to divulge now.
Remember, we talked about that they had given her the chief of station of an unnamed Okay, a foreign country, okay, and we're going to talk about that now as soon as we're done here.
In summary, we have here an exceptional officer who has been performing at the level of a GS-14 for some years.
It is now time to promote her to that great commensurate with her performance and which she so justly deserves.
Theodore G. Shackley Chief, Western Hemisphere Business.
The Blonde Ghost, also known as the Blonde Ghost, and Ted Shackley was
David Morales' immediate supervisor, and I cannot help but see, you know, look at, you know, some kind of connection here, you know, that these are his two superstars, you know, in Mexico City, Charlotte, and in Miami and Cuba, okay, depending on the year, David Morales, you know?
I mean, they were doing exactly the same thing.
You know, if you look, remember, we looked at F.I.
and everything here at the top here.
That's, if you look at Morales's dossier, that's exactly what he was involved in.
You know, C.I., F.I., C.E., Covert Action, you know, both of them were doing exactly the same thing, but from different points, you know.
He was clearly a major player.
Yeah, she was.
Oh, definitely.
So, I believe one last thing we had here.
Let me see if I remember.
I'm gonna do like this guy here.
Oh, man.
Crazy woman, you know?
So, anyway.
When did she pass away?
I think she's still around, you know.
She's 93, you know.
Her husband, obviously, you know.
Call her up!
Right.
Anyway, so that's incredible stuff, you know, coming out, you know, you just gotta, you know, like I said, you know, you gotta, you know, do stupid stuff like me, you know, look at these documents.
Now you wanted to talk about the role where she was the head that was, we didn't reveal last show.
Thank you for reminding me.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
Are we here?
That was a Shackley.
Shackley?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here we go.
OK.
We did this.
We did all that.
You got too many 700-page walkthroughs.
This one's over eight.
I got too many things in my head here, but it's gonna be worth it here.
Here we go!
All right.
Trinidad and Tobago.
Permanent change of station.
In July 1974, Charlotte Zerung Bustos, at the time a GS-13, was pro to chief of station of Port of Spain in the tiny island nation of Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean.
Who would have known?
This action by the CIA was unprecedented, considering the degree of misogyny which existed in the military and intelligence communities, which dictated a woman's place in those respective hierarchies.
Sorry, I don't want to get any women attacking me, but that's the way it was, Jim and Gary.
Simply put, women were not appointed in such lofty positions anywhere in those entities at that time.
It would take decades for that to happen, but one cannot help but Let me go down here.
Consider if this initiative might have been in reaction to new investigation into CIA activity on the horizon, such as a church and Rockefeller commissions, where Isolaine Zerubustos would have been necessary for obvious position to get her out of the way into an obscure position. where Isolaine Zerubustos would have been necessary for obvious position Trinidad would have been just the ticket.
This is a document that proves her appointment to chief of station at Port of Spain, Trinidad, in July 1974.
Bear in mind, this is precisely the information that for some reason, she did not want to come out during her secret HSCA testimony.
That's right.
She said, you know, I, you know, I was, uh, chief of station of, uh, you know, unnamed and I don't know, and I'm not gonna talk about this unless I get subpoenaed, you know?
So, Trinidad and Tobago.
You know, you guys know where this is?
It's right off of Venezuela, you know.
Yeah, well, it's a teeny tiny identity.
I mean, you know, totally obscure, Larry.
Okay.
Do you think this is related to maybe, you know, making her unavailable?
Yeah, obviously.
Sure.
Of course.
Needless to say.
Yeah.
And at the same time, giving her such a lofty position here, you know, of chief of station, you know, this is probably, I'm sure that this had never happened Before, you know, there's no precedent here, you know.
And as she is elevated to this position, you know, which probably any woman has never, you know, obtained, you know.
What can I say?
So... He was born into this position.
Are you kidding me?
No, no, no.
Now that you mentioned that, let's go back in time here.
Hold on, hold on.
Gary, thank you for mentioning that.
Because I want to go here.
And show you guys, in her personal history, okay?
You guys see that, right?
Yeah.
She went to Guatemala when she was 15 years old.
And she went to Mexico when she was 17 years old.
Let me see if I can locate that here.
Okay, going back in time here.
Okay, Syracuse University.
University of San Carlos, Guatemala, okay.
She spent a summer there, summer of 1948.
Spanish credits.
She was born in 1929, so this is, what, she's 19, correct?
Yes, she's learning Spanish in college.
No, but no, no, no, but she spent summers in Guatemala and in Mexico, you know, so who has this vision of her You know, it's like she was created, okay, for purposes.
Who the hell knows?
Her father was in the flower business, okay, and she worked summers, but then she ends up here waiting on customers.
Hold on.
I did a lot of exempt and declamation work in public speaking contests.
I mean, it's like she is being groomed for this type of...
It might be a stretch of knowledge, but people that work at the fairgrounds, all of those positions, you're born into that.
They don't give those positions up.
No, but the thing is about this, she already has family who are in the military and intelligence.
Right places.
You know?
Here, okay, Guatemala City, okay, Spanish, summer of 1948.
Okay, she is 19 years old!
You know what 19-year-old goes and ventures into Guatemala, you know.
I know.
You see what I'm talking about here?
You know, and this is not a, this is not, you know, I don't know, but I see a lot of crazy stuff here with this Charlotte.
And now that we have a lot more information on her, Now we know, you know, how lofty, you know, up to where she, you know, attained in her career, you know.
Gary, my speculation would be she may have orchestrated the whole scenario of Oswald coming to Mexico City.
She may have been the- Abso-freaking-lutely!
Abso-freaking-lutely!
You know.
And that's why they got to get her the hell out of town.
Not only that, change her, you know, see, they already changed her identity.
Permanent!
That's a permanent change of station.
That should be a temporary duty assignment if she were to be there at all.
I mean, ridiculous.
Well, she's in Mexico.
She continues to be in Mexico until almost 1970, you know?
So what happens is that she continues upwards, you know, and at the end, in fact, there are documents where she is telling when Scott, you know, we didn't look at that one, but that's a very important one, where she is in Washington already in, I believe, 1967, 1968, when Jim Garrison is starting to
Uh, you know, raised all this ruckus and, uh, Mexico mystery man, you know, the guy that they said it was Oswald, it wasn't Oswald, you know, it was taken, you know, the empty, uh, take and, and she's the one that sends, uh, uh, when Scott a message and says, you know, that she wants to know where the negatives are.
And if they exist to not be destroyed, because she wants them.
And she is at Langley, working at Langley at headquarters, you know.
So this woman, you know, was not just a secretary, you know.
And we need to pay attention, you know, to this thing about the Bustos cables of October the 9th and the 10th, which already Bill Simpich is, you know, She baptizes the twin cables and her involvement in creating the Lee Oswald scapegoat and the Patsy in Mexico City when that crap never happened.
Sorry.
You know Larry, I mean that was like the most important aspect of the whole government's whole case!
And everybody took it for granted!
And we knew he was a communist because he went to Mexico City to get a visa to make an escape to the Soviet Union!
And they don't even look!
And it was all bullshit!
And they don't even look what's behind me.
They don't even look and hear what's behind me.
It's not stamped!
You cannot come up to Cuba!
It's not stamped!
It says you can't go!
It's right behind me, Jim and Gary.
Well, you know, that government, they just overlooked.
They just sort of fumble these things, you know.
I mean, after all, it only concerned a minor matter.
The assassination of the 35th President of the United States.
You can see it there.
It says, you cannot use this passport to travel to Cuba.
How can we be so stupid, man?
Gullible.
Let's sign off.
We're having a good time.
So many shills out there, man.
I'd like to give y'all a shill alert if y'all are done doing this.
It just shows what a fabricated house of cards this whole thing, framing Lee Oswald from beginning to end.
Just garbage.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
And they get so arrogant for pulling off this happy horse shit.
They think they can get away with anything, and it wears a damn well can.
And they do.
Well, sign us off, Gary.
Wonderful stuff.
All right.
I wanted to show y'all something before we go, real quick.
I want to play Devil's Advocate, if y'all don't mind.
Let me see if I can find this.
All right, now, just one second.
There it is.
All right.
This is a current things right here.
So what I actually want to do since we do have a few minutes left.
I was going to be devil's advocate.
I'm going to be reading this to you guys and I want y'all to you know, almost like a debate.
All right.
Okay, so this guy here is a retired Royal Canadian Mounted Police Serious Crimes Detective and Investigator with the British Columbian Coroner Service.
Also a marksman, sniper, and SAS-trained emergency response team.
I've also got a bit of experience around with life and death.
I am an international best-selling crime writer and deadly blogger.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
So let's see... Yeah, but that last part is important, Gary, because this is a false persona.
I mean, he's putting himself up as an expert to reinforce the official narrative of JFK.
Mm-hmm.
His name is Jerry Rogers, and so let me just read this.
It's very, very short.
Okay, all right.
There are only three significant questions left unanswered in the assassination of United States President John F. Kennedy, which occurred in Dallas, Texas on November 22nd.
Why did he do it?
First is Lee Oswald's Harvey's motives.
Why did he do it?
We'll never know for sure, because Oswald never did confess and died two days later, taking the Seekers to his grave.
Second, where was Oswald going to after the assassination?
He left the scene, went home, grabbed a revolver, and walking down South Dallas Street, on a Dallas street, when intercepted by Officer Tippett.
Oswald shot Tippett and continued fleeing.
Before getting cornered in a theater where he attempted to shoot the arresting officers clearly when he was planning to live another day.
All right, y'all want to talk about that one?
Well, it's all non-sense.
I mean, we know his frame.
Why do I have to squeeze the light out?
He didn't go out of his way to shoot Tippett.
I mean, it's just silly.
That was so fabric.
Why do I have to waste saliva on something like that?
All right, let me keep on now.
Third question.
What happened to the missing bullet?
Evidence clearly shows Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots from a 6.5 Manicuro Carcano rifle.
So we get it.
This is a... what do they call it?
It's called Hardcore Propaganda in 2023.
book depository conspiracy civets there is give it a rest oswald was a trigger man and he acted alone not a single piece of evidence exists to refute this because non-events leave no evidence it never happened any other way than oswald acted alone so we get it this is uh uh what do they call it it's called hardcore propaganda in 2023 a screed yeah
This is just embarrassingly bad.
Oh yeah.
And then we talked about how the single bullet theory is correct.
Now that takes balls.
If you ask me.
Let me just read that.
Gary, why are you giving this, you know, propaganda here on our show?
Because I wanted y'all to rip it apart for me.
Nah, it shouldn't even bring it up.
Worthy, huh?
All right.
You even said there, it fragmented into multiple pieces as full metal jackets are designed to do when the opposite is the case.
Full metal jacket bullets don't fragment into multiple pieces.
It's a fragmenting or exploding bullet.
I mean, he's just, he just making up this shit and counting on his authority as his story that he's sticking to for, you know, to carry conviction.
This is rubbish, Gary.
Rubbish.
All right, well there's your Shill Alert for 2023.
We've been pretty good at finding them.
And that came in my email, by the way, and I don't know how in the heck it got there.
Of course, of course.
You know, so.
Anyway, Jerry Rogers of Shill.
All right, we're going to call it a little early tonight.
Good show, Larry, as usual.
And Jim, this has been... Excellent, excellent, Larry.
Terrific stuff.
Yeah, the new J.K.
Show, 277.
You know, if people don't start Looking into this fucking passport thing, you know.
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
How can, you know, you be so stupid?
Staring us right in the face.
You know, when you have the fucking passport, which was renewed on the 23rd of June, the same day that Arrestus Pena, mind you, renewed his passport in New Orleans, alright?
And he doesn't use a passport to go to Mexico.
He uses a tourist card, all right?
But then, supposedly, he's going to use a passport in Mexico City, and this is the one that's right behind us, okay?
D-025-092596 or something like that, yeah.
That's the number of the passport, you know.
And this is the one that he renewed, you know.
Remember that old one?
The old one that showed him going to Russia and the Soviet Union, where he was in a suit and tie?
That was, you know, eliminated, and this is the one that replaced it.
This is the one that he was fucking supposed to use to go to Mexico City, and he did not.
How could you have a visa attached to that passport to Cuba?
Exactly!
So he goes anywhere with it, and then he's supposed to show his passport.
In fact, this is why this is such a fucking bunch of bullshit.
This never happened!
And Larry, were the negatives that Sherry wanted, those supposed to be Oswald and New Orleans, No, of course not.
I mean, he's about to be Oswald in Mexico City.
No, no, no, the big fat guy, the 35-year-old, the other guy.
Right, right, right.
Those are the ones.
Those are the ones.
But she wanted them regardless, you know, at the age of 67 when Jim Garrison was investigating.
At this time, she's, I mean, This woman, her story is crazy, and it's, you know, she was not officially working in the Mexico City station.
She went TV-wise, which meant, obviously, you know, tours of her duty.
Exactly, and this is how they hid her away, and they put her, you know, and she was actually living in Mexico, but she was not She was officially among the 50 or 52 actual employees of the embassy, of the CIA at the embassy.
They just disappeared her.
They disappeared her.
And her official address was always Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C.
I didn't have everything.
It's crazy.
That's all you need to know.
Man, this woman is important!
They buried her deep, Larry.
They buried her deep.
Okay!
This Charlotte woman is important, I'm telling you guys.
You got it, you got it, you got it.
I think she was right up there with Eva Morales.
David Morales.
You know, and they, you know, try to, you know, discredit, you know, her importance and everything.
And it's, you know, it's very obvious to me.
Yeah, it's good to have someone passionate about JFK and bringing you the truth.
And that's what we do here.
We'll see you next time, guys.
Appreciate it.
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