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Dec. 10, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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Need to Know News (9 December 2022) with Joe Olson and Chris Weinert
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This is Jim Fetzer in Madison, Wisconsin, joined today by Joe Holson in Houston, Texas, and Carl Weinert in Fort Myers, Florida.
We're here to bring you all the news you need to know.
We begin with reports Russia is threatening Poland.
Putin claims to have killed 80 Polish fighters, but the Poles are becoming increasingly involved in Ukraine.
It's Poland's own fault, in my opinion.
Tensions between Russia and Poland, which is, of course, a NATO member, have been cranking up.
This is a pretty serious situation.
A reported loss has come the same day Russia confirmed it moved a Polish flag from a memorial commemorating the murder of thousands of Poles by the Soviet Union back in 1940.
Moscow has also been furious over Lithuania blanking EU-sanctioned goods from reaching Kaliningrad, sandwiched between the Baltic state and Poland.
This is prompted Poland to call on NATO to further bolster its security presence.
The peculiarity here, of course, is that The NATO is a defensive alliance.
So what happens if a member of NATO launches an aggressive attack on another nation, such as Russia?
Does NATO have an obligation in the case of an offensive action?
I would think it does not.
But it could, of course, be converted to try to make it into an attack by Russia on Poland instead.
That would be unsurprising.
Russia's claim of wiping out 80 Polish fighters will add to the tensions.
Up to 80 Polish mercenaries, 20 armored combat vehicles, eight Grad multiple rocket launchers were destroyed in rescission strikes on the Megatech zinc factory in Konstantinovka in the Donetsk region, the Russian defense minister reported.
Here's evidence of the damage that was inflicted on a warehouse there.
Irony is not being lost on those in Ukraine that Russia employs genuine mercenaries of the Wagner Group, which it pays a far higher pay bracket than its own troops.
That actually wouldn't surprise me.
Poland fully endorsed Lithuania's blockade of Russian material.
It's been reported Russian railways temporarily suspended some cargo transit from Belarus to Poland.
Russia is framing this as a routine disruption, but the timing gives it the appearance of a tit-for-tat retaliation.
Estonia's military said a Russian Mi-8 helicopter entered the country's airspace in southeastern Estonia without permission on Saturday and simulated missile attacks.
The alleged intrusion was one of multiple violations of Estonia's airspace.
The two historical enemies, to add to their tensions, they removed that Polish flag.
Historians that visited the Canton Memorial in western Russia's Molensk region noted the flag's disappearance.
There cannot be Polish flags on Russian monuments.
Even so, after the frankly anti-Russian comments by Polish political leaders, the Culture Minister of the Russian Federation made the right decision by removing the Polish flag.
Katyn is a Russian memorial!
It was erected in memory of 25,000 Poles, mostly army officer deemed anti-communist, massacred by the Soviet Union political police in a forest near Smolensk in 1940 on the orders of Stalin.
The Soviet Union long denied responsibility, accusing the Nazis of committing the crime.
The episode poisoned already hostile relations between Russia and Poland.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yes, well there's plenty of bad blood over there, and there's also a history of etch-a-sketch border lines, and it looks like what Russia's going to do is they're going to take the eastern one-third of Ukraine, and it looks like Poland is going to reclaim what used to be Poland, you know, two or three hundred years ago on the western edge, and so whatever's left of Ukraine is going to be a tiny little rump state.
As far as the events at Kaitlyn, Yes, they gathered 21,000 Polish officers, put them in this prison, and then they systematically executed them.
And the guy that was in charge of that, if you look up Stalin's executioner, he is credited with being single-handedly the greatest mass murderer on the planet, because by his own hand, he killed 300 Polish officers every day for a month.
And he would shoot them in the back of the head with a .32 caliber, and he preferred the Walther of German version.
He said, you don't need any more caliber than that when you hit them right in the back of the head from the neck.
So they'd have two Russian strong arm guys come in and pick them up.
They took them down a long, dimly lit hall where the walls were painted red and the floor was red.
And he would step out from a side door wearing a leather apron and shoot them.
And then they would take them out and dump them in a truck and take them out in the forest and dump them.
And yeah, they tried to claim that the Germans were the ones that killed all those Polish officers.
But we all know it was Stalin that did it.
So just more murderous episodes on the part of the world communist movement.
It is designed to do exactly what it's done in every country where it's been tried.
A rank amateur compared to Tony the Rat, Joe.
Chris!
Yeah, because Tony didn't personally inject all those people.
This guy personally pulled the trigger.
Yeah, no, I get it.
I get it, Joe.
Chris!
Yeah, Poland has often been a hotbed of historical isms in terms of being a tug-of-war type of keystone geography location, and the people seem to be motivated by many different things, whether it's Orthodox versus Western Christian, or even some of the communist versus imperialist, and then on through.
Poland has seen its Ownership and leadership change hands and forces over the last three, four hundred years, a good dozen or so more times.
Whether you're talking Medici French, Lithuanians, Sweden, French, again with Napoleon.
You get into the German with Hitler, even the Soviet with Stalin, and many of the color revolution wars that were fought in the early 1910s were happening in Poland as well.
And really, I think it's an effort, like you say, Joe, to erode Ukraine and many of the surrounding regions into smaller rump states.
And it is definitely an effort for NATO to encircle the Soviet Union.
And like I say, in terms of resource extraction and labor guilds, Poland is a primary real estate, let's just say, in terms of being a keystone to these things.
And it's often served as an iron curtain between the East and West, especially in the Warsaw Soviet blocs.
And of course, like you mentioned, it was a hotbed for extermination camps, too, in World War II and post-World War II.
Nice.
Yes.
Indeed.
to mention it was one of the pales of the Jewish settlements in addition to Ukraine.
So some historic tug of war going on here again, and I think Poland's fallen victim to that as well.
And my thoughts go out to the Polish people that are under the direction of lunatics.
Nice.
Yes, indeed.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, Poland is not backing down, buying 116 Abrams tanks for $4 billion.
Putin is accusing Poland of going to seize western Ukraine.
The U.S.
Department of State has approved the sale of 116 M1A1 Abram main battle tanks and related equipment at an estimated cost of $3.75 billion.
The tanks are an older version than the 250 M1A2 Abrams owned by Poland earlier and intended to fill a gap left by the country sending older tanks to Ukraine.
The sale will improve Poland's capability to meet current and future threats by providing a credible force capable of deterring adversaries and participating in NATO operations.
The Defense Minister described the State Department's consent as a further step toward increasing the armored potential of the Poland Armed Forces.
A strong army is a secure Poland.
There are nationalist organizations in Poland, according to Putin, that dream of seizing western territories of Ukraine, and they will act in this direction.
You can see they want to return the so-called historical territories that take back the western land Ukraine received as a result of Joseph Stalin's decision after World War II.
As you know, these lands were taken from Poland and given to Soviet Ukraine.
According to Putin, Polish nationalists will pursue this because you can see it even from their literature, reasoning, and speeches.
Meanwhile, Putin says Russia's war on Ukraine is a long process.
Ten months after the initial invasion, he acknowledged the special military operation is a long process and that he has no plan to give up Ukrainian territory Russia has captured.
As for the duration, of course, this can be a long process, he said.
No need to mobilize more troops.
The war had brought results for Russia, including the territories it has annexed in the Donbass, Kyrgyzstan, and Zaporozhye.
New territories have appeared.
This is a significant result for Russia.
There are serious questions.
Take the Sea of Azov, which has become Russia's inland sea.
He said he believed the most important thing isn't the territory, but the people who live there who want to be a part of Russia.
This is another sign that there's no end to the fighting.
I consider this territory part of Russia.
Officials in Kiev maintain their goal is to drive Russia out of all of the areas captured, even including Crimea, which Russia has controlled since 2014.
Putin also warned the risk of nuclear war is increasing.
Asked by a member of the Human Rights Council if he would commit to a no-first-use policy, he said the obligation could prevent Russia from using a nuclear weapon in the event of a nuclear attack.
If it doesn't use it first under any circumstances, it means it won't be the second to use it either, because the possibility of using it in case of a nuclear strike on our territory will be sharply limited.
The U.S.
slammed his comments as loose talk about nuclear weapons, but the U.S.
doesn't have a no-first-use policy either.
Biden also recently warned the risk of nuclear war is higher than at any time since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yes, well it's really amazing the way these treaties work out.
The British and French declared war on the Germans after the Polish had aggravated them constantly along their border, and the British and French had no problem with the prior
Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement, where they agreed to both attack Poland from both sides, and then they would split it down the middle, and then they occupied Poland for the whole of the war, except when Operation Sea Lion was in the process of being developed, where Hitler was going to invade England.
He realized that there's no honor among thieves and that while his supposed Eastern Front was going to be unprotected while he took over England, Stalin was massing equipment in order to attack him from his east, and so that's why he called off the Battle of Britannia, so he could ship planes over discreetly and position his forces so that he could attack during Operation Barbarossa.
So bottom line is, unless you study a lot of history, you're not going to understand any history because it's not per It's presented in any kind of coherent form.
And as far as Poland picking up 100 new tanks, big deal.
You can knock them out with a Javelin missile, and we've dumped tons of those over in Ukraine so that Russians will have access to all that they need in the way of operating to knock out tanks.
Chris, go for it.
Yeah, you know, it seems like as soon as Congress has exhausted its political support or public support behind getting money to Ukraine, now Poland's the new place where they're going to be doing these arms deals, especially after countries like Saudi Arabia and many other of our traditional allies starting to forge towards BRICS especially after countries like Saudi Arabia and many other of our And certainly the NGOs have infiltrated in terms of political influence into these countries as well.
And I think it's very much all part of the global depopulation agenda that's going on.
These alliances are being forged to lead into the theaters of war and they'll eventually probably be betrayed too at some point in time.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is like a checks and balance to, like, say, Belarus, Hungary and some of these other countries that are leading more towards the BRICS alliance and justifying Putin's actions more so than, say, traditional Western autonomy in terms of their political dictations.
Like I said, this is the theater of war is going to lead to even more further depopulation and probably forge enforce a peace that will be accepted and put in place regardless of its actual terms.
So these real casualties that will occur there will go in conjunction with resource extractions.
And, of course, like I said, to forge the financial systems, not only previously, but most importantly, post-conflict that are being positioned there.
Joe, to add to your point, man, you make some great points.
100%!
Yeah, you don't really hear that Hitler and Stalin both invaded Poland on the same day.
Almost like that was orchestrated, too.
So, yeah, in terms of World War II and some of its precepts, a lot of it is falling into the dustbin in terms of historical recognition.
But if you don't understand that and don't see these things, you can be taken for a ride in terms of mainstream media's account of history.
Absolutely.
100%.
Wow. - Oh, sorry about that, my friends.
Go forward.
Fox News reporter makes damning observation about Biden's callousness toward the border crisis.
Fox News reporter Bill Milligan made damning observation Wednesday about Biden's callous attitude.
An observation on sinking Border Patrol morale, he wrote, one day after the president said the border isn't important enough to visit, a BP agent died in the line of duty.
White House never apologized for pushing the false whip claims, moreover.
Here, you see his twig.
On Tuesday, Biden flew to Arizona to celebrate Chibson's Science Act, before his departure was asked why the trip to Arizona would exclude visiting the border, where the migrant crisis remains ongoing.
There are more important things going on, he responded.
Tragically, a Border Patrol agent died after crashing his ATV when attempting to intercept migrants in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, the epicenter of the border crisis.
A border agent assigned to McAllen Station patrolling the international boundary on an all-terrain vehicle was tracking a group of subjects who illegally crossed the border when he was involved in an accident.
He was found unresponsive by fellow agents who tried to save his life, but transported to a local hospital, he died.
The White House did not release a statement acknowledging his untimely death, nor did the Press Secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, address the incident at Wednesday's press briefing.
Not only are border agents in danger by migrants illegally entering, but they're experiencing an epidemic of suicides among agents on the lines of the crisis.
An investigation into the incident in which border patrol agents were falsely accused of whipping Haitian migrants remains in continuance.
The CBP Office of Professional Responsibility released a report in July confirming Border Patrol agents did not whip Haitian migrants, but that they discovered failures at multiple levels of the agency, a lack of appropriate policies and training, and unprofessional and dangerous behavior by several individuals.
Go right ahead here, Joe, your thoughts.
Yes, well, the INS has been a horrible joke for the last, what, since LBJ or RFK said that we don't need to have any immigration controls at all in this country, like in 1966 or something like that.
Yeah, it's been a horrible joke, and during the baby Bush administration, they U.S.
Attorney for the Southern District, which included Texas and Oklahoma, was a guy named Johnny Sutton, who actively prosecuted over a dozen Texas lawmen and INS agents that threatened to enforce border laws.
And mainly, they were arresting people that were drug smugglers, and then they would end up getting busted because the U.S.
Justice Department didn't actually want INS and Border Patrol to do anything.
Other than just be there as a superficial guidepost.
They're worthless.
And the whole federal government is completely infected with termites and parasites.
Chris, your thoughts?
Yeah, you know, this is one of Biden's strong efforts to bring in his replacements that will pretty much replace the American labor because it's really not conditioned for the service economy or the gig economy like it's being forced into.
And of course, Biden was a guy that has outsourced U.S.
labor for his entire career.
Under the guise of globalism, he's a guy that's pushing in AI automation, the vaccine passports, the vaccine itself, free trade deals, which, like I say, aforementioned outsource U.S.
labor through these insane asymmetrical deals, commodity manipulation, of course, widespread global corruption.
Well, introducing for-profit prisons and bringing NGO and Intel operatives to create domestic instability under the precepts of racism and infiltrating drugs into their communities in the absence of them having full-time jobs.
And of course, leaving the tip of the spear in terms of the crypto Ponzi's as well.
Which is strange because these are like given denominations of energy more or less in terms of its digital representation, and then they're being used to actually purchase energy indirectly.
So, you know, ipso facto, they become, you know, energy credits in my opinion.
Kind of similar to what maybe would be considered with a carbon tax as well, and the initiatives are trying to push with that.
All part of the U.N. colonialization efforts, of course, while he's also introducing IRS agents to crawl up every American's butthole for $600 or more or less in terms of the 1099s that they're putting out.
And also exempting Congress from said IRS Gestapo tactics, just like they did with the masks, the VACs, the lockdowns, all this other stuff.
And of course, like I say, they seem to be exempt from carbon taxes as well as they fly around a charter jets and lecture people about carbon emissions.
So I'd also like to add that Biden is one of the guys that really outsourced the production of organic food here in America that leads to many of the health problems through GMOs and many other alternatives.
So, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, these things all tie together.
And this is just one of the many facets of treason that I think this man has committed against the taxpayers of this country.
I think you got that right.
Alas, because of the interruptions, catching back up.
Thank you.
Here we go.
Senate tries to pour through a pro-immigration bill before the GOP take over the House.
They're trying to pass legislation during the final weeks of Congress.
A group led by Senators Tom Tillis and Kristen Sinema are working on a bill that would provide legal status to around 2 million illegals who came to the U.S.
as children.
These are those referred to as dreamers.
It would also allocate billions for border security.
Tillis and Sinema support various bipartisan deals and have started working on a framework expected to include about $25 to $40 billion for the Border Patrol to hire more agents increasing their pay.
We would also reform the country's asylum laws to make it harder to abuse that status, which one would think is a good thing?
The bill would provide amnesty for two million DREAMers, extend Title 42 extension for one year, give Congress more time to come up with a comprehensive solution to address the issue.
The judge's ruling has added concerns about the southern border.
Since a Trump admin policy relied on the pandemic and other health concerns to justify mass deportations, it was very effective in shutting down the border in 2020.
The end of enforcement of Title 42 is scheduled for December 21st of this year.
Another judge is ruling on the legality of the Obama-era program known as DACA, which would protect young immigrants from deportation.
This could raise the possibility that millions more who came to the U.S.
as children could be deported.
A bill providing amnesty to 2 million DREAMers would need the support of at least 10 Republicans to pass a Senate.
This is necessary to overcome the effort of one Republican to prevent the bill from being passed.
Apart from immigration, Congress is also focused on other bills, such as funding the military and the federal government.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yes, well isn't that interesting?
Apparently she's got her finger in the wind and she knows she's up for re-election in two years, and so Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema said that she's no longer a Democrat, she's independent!
Oh, she's so smart and such a great thinker.
Yeah, this is going to really put her in a box because she's going to have to either vote as an independent and vote with the RINOs to deny this extension of DACA and further immigration crap, or she's going to be hung out to dry with the next election, which looks like there'll be enough force in Arizona that they won't be able to rig it any of the ways that they've rigged it in the past.
But that doesn't mean they don't have two years to figure out how to cheat us again.
Chris?
Well, yeah, it's a big shocker that she's behind this lame duck push to try to bring this legislation in.
And of course, like you say, seems to be monitoring some sort of analytics that would indicate she'd be better served as an independent than to represent herself as a Democrat, like most of these Democrats and traders would probably feel that way, too.
And I would have to say that these partisan politics, I think, are scripted full of absurdities completely to distract the people and the dispossessed and the disaffected away from any sort of and all sorts of constitutional, draconian constitutional transgressions, we'll say.
It could be the lockdowns, could be the vaccine mandate, could be the COVID thing, could be all this stuff, in addition to the immigration thing.
I'm not downplaying it.
I'm just saying that it seems like a convenient misdirection ploy.
Yeah, I have to say analytics got to be just screaming out that the Democrats are hemorrhaging not only credibility but public support and their full spectrum surveillance apparatus that they have are probably indicating that perception management will be very difficult to continue.
The gyro will be up in terms of playing the illusion of a 50/50 majority in terms of political support.
I would think that the last round would have been 80/20 in terms of Republican support, but somehow or another they're saying the Democrats won.
Don't need to question, no need to count the votes, no need to concern yourself with all these little trifles that are part of the electoral process.
Just take what's given to you from the selected leaders and be happy and call that the will of the people.
To me, that is an absolute absurdity.
And we've talked about it till we're blue in the face here.
And I just need to highlight that again so people don't forget about it.
Nice.
Yes.
Well, Joe mentions Kyrsten Sinema leaving the Democrat Party and registering as an independent.
This is very significant.
It's going to have lots of shockwaves.
Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema is leaving the Democratic Party and registering as an Independent.
I'm registered as an Arizona Independent.
I know some may be a bit surprised, but I think it makes a lot of sense.
I've never fit neatly into any party box.
I've never really tried.
I don't want to.
Removing myself from the partisan structure not only is it true to who I am and how I operate, it'll also provide a place of belonging for many folks across the state and country who are also tired of the partisanship.
Sen.
West Virginia Democrat Joe Manchin has infuriated liberals by standing in the way of Biden's agenda at a time when the Democrats control the House, the Senate, and the White House.
They used their sway in the current 50-50 Senate, where a single Democrat could derail a bill to influence a host of legislation, especially the $3.5 trillion Build Back Better that Biden proposed last year.
Her objections to increasing the corporate tax rate particularly rankled liberals.
While Sinema is blindsided by the surprise deal Manchin cut with a majority leader in July on major health care and energy, she ultimately backed the smaller spending package Biden signed into law before the midterm.
Well, Manchin and Sinema also opposed changes to the filibuster despite pressure from their Senate colleagues and Biden.
After a vote against filibuster changes in January, the Arizona Democrat Party's executive board censured cinema.
Now let me just say, and I want to get your comments, what this means is With Sinema becoming independent, they don't have a 51 to 49 majority.
They only have a 50 to 49.
And when you consider that two of those 50 are actually also independents, Bernie Sanders and the guy from Maine, there are actually more Republicans, 49, than there are Democrats in the Senate.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yeah, well, I thought it was strange when it was actually a 50-50 split that the RINOs didn't demand that they had a sharing position as far as the chairman of different committees.
It's absolutely absurd that they would say, OK, well, we're evenly split, but because we're evenly split and Camel Toe Harris gets to do the deciding vote.
We'll go ahead and let you pick all the chairmen, and that way they can pick all of the schedules.
And while we're talking about what the wonderful things the Senate does, they just passed the 2023 Defense Authorization Act, and that's an $85 billion act that includes 4,500 pages worth of the most ridiculous pork shit you could ever imagine.
It's absolutely insane, and the Senate had two days to review it before they voted and approved it.
Two days to read 4,500 pages.
I don't know when the last time you read a 4,500 page book, but it was a really big damn book.
The biggest one I've got is 1,500 pages.
That's a monster, Chris.
Yeah, it reminds me of the TPP, where they had to vote on it without ever seeing it.
But somehow or another, Congress is supposed to approve that blindly.
And also, the Sinema transition reminds me of like 10 years ago, when the Obama-nomics plan was rolled out for the bailouts, the too-big-to-jail, and of course, the finance, the insurance companies, and more importantly, the Affordable Health Care Acts, when our inspector, the Magic Bullet guy, flipped over to change parties and to change the affiliation to bring support to that congressionally.
And of course they financed with the Affordable Health Care Act this funded depopulation agenda that they put forth and they also fund things like gender reassignment.
I mean these hospitals get a lot of money for these cases just like they were getting $39,000 for COVID ventilators and Lord knows what kind of incentive they're getting from the vaccine and how much companies like BlackRock accessorize all the lockdowns and the inefficient and useless safety protocols, we'll say.
In my opinion, this is all part of the political tug-of-war that they're trying to create, and all these people are Apex CFR puppets or NGO henchmen.
Yeah, I also think that Citizens United was brought in under this time, too, with Obamanomics, and they're supposedly to get the money out of politics, but it seems to me money has just gone so much further in and gotten so much bigger.
So, yeah, you're really seeing the American people getting sold out on all fronts by their selected leaders, and this to me seems nothing more than just some sort of political justification for something that's been planned for a long time.
Very, very, very telling.
Meanwhile, Joe Manchin sends his party spinning.
He just demolished a runaway spending, writing checks for our kids they can't cash.
Senator Joe Manchin buckled under pressure earlier this year.
After vowing to stop Biden's reckless agenda, he agreed to a modified version of the spending plan.
That did not go over well with facts back in West Virginia, especially after his side deal to build a pipeline fell through.
It seems Manchin's learned his lesson.
You cannot make deals with a radical left.
They'll take your goodwill, stab you in the back.
Now it looks like he's back to spitting fighter against Biden and his socialist colleagues from the conservative brief.
During an interview on MSNBC, host Stephanie Ruhle tried to push Manchin on why he won't support radical proposals.
We've already spent how many trillions attending to a lot of the needs.
How much more can we afford?
You want more debt?
I looked this morning.
We're at $28.5 trillion.
How much more can we add and pass on to our children, the next generation?
We've always said we're writing checks our kids can't cash, and it's a shame to put the burden upon them.
Let's consider that.
He left the liberal MSNBC host stunned when he blasted the left's reckless spending agenda.
A moderate senator criticized Democrats for wanting to spend billions and trillions in money they don't have.
He explained our national debt, also known as the deficit, is over 28 trillion.
Where are we going to find the money to pay it off?
The massive burden will be placed on our children's shoulders and they won't be able to pay it.
They rebuke Biden for writing checks our kids can't cash.
The debt has to be paid somehow by someone, but the decrepit Democrats know they'll be long dead before these particular chickens come home to roost.
Most experts know Social Security won't be around by the time young people today retire.
They'll be forced to pay back all the spending their parents and grandparents enjoyed, but who will that generation?
Which will include anyone 40 or younger today survive without the social security net.
Not well, it seems.
Yet Democrats have no plan for paying off $500 billion in student loans or billions given to Ukraine or billions of COVID relief used as kickbacks for their liberal buddies.
It seems Manchin is done playing their game.
Too bad he didn't feel that way over the summer when his vote helped Democrats stave off a red wave.
He isn't calling himself a liberal or a conservative, but he's gonna help America.
He's gonna have to find a way to work with the GOP.
If he has any brains at all, he'd jump ship immediately.
Takeaway?
Manchin blasted Dems and Biden over reckless spending, refused to write checks, our kids can't cash, appears to be returning to his anti-spending stance.
And I would say cinema has put him back in the driver's seat by becoming an independent.
Joe Biden's going to exercise tremendous influence once again.
Joe.
Yes, well if Joe Manchin wants to actually prove that he's learned his lesson, he ought to become either an independent, or just say, heck with it, and join the RINOs, and then really throw a wrench in the network.
Because as it is, he can stomp his feet and say, they cheated me.
He knows he's dealing with liars and thieves, and he knows that they were never going to be able to deliver on the promises that they made for him.
And he knows when you make a deal with the devil, you don't ever win.
And he knows that he's up for reelection someday and that he will not be able to dodge these particular self-inflected wounds.
Chris.
Yeah, you know, all of a sudden he's suddenly worried about, what, $28 or $33 trillion that they pissed away and put our children in debt for.
Things like the Gollum Enterprises, such as the War of Terror, the DoD missing funds, the COVID scam, the Ponzi's with crypto, the bonds, the stock markets, the Bright, the Blackstone and BlackRock Real Estate Investment Trust, basically allowing people to To no longer take their money out.
The ETFs, which are commodity manipulations being done by the big fours and the too-big-to-jail guys, the usual suspects that pay back a fraction of what they've stolen as a cost of doing business or a minor tax.
It's probably less than they would get in taxation, let alone supposedly this is a putative measure that should have these people in jail for violating fiduciary duties.
But nothing ever comes of this stuff.
No investigations of serious matter are happening.
And the people are the common man is getting absolutely dispossessed of their property ownership and just about ownership of anything else.
And they're trying to bring in now a CBDC, which is a massive digital debt instrument that will track every single transaction in a quantum atomic system settlement system.
And it's really, to me, seems the definition of insanity, because the same guys that have been doing all these things are going to be put in charge of that, too, whether it's JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Bank of America, BlackRock, Blackstone.
So, yeah, it's amazing to see how these guys are selectively concerned and complicitly involved with these type of issues, we'll say.
Very, very good, Chris.
Very good.
Meanwhile, Meta threatens to ban U.S.
news over a media bill.
Bizarre!
Facebook parent Meta issued a warning it would remove news content from U.S.
platforms if Congress passes a bill that would enable small media organizations to negotiate compensation with major platforms for distributing their content.
The law would give news outlets more power to negotiate fees for content posted on Facebook.
With the Journalism Competition and Preservation Act, Small News Outlast will be exempted from anti-collusion regulation and allowed to jointly negotiate with Big Tag within a four-year window.
Under the law, outlets can collectively withhold content from, or negotiate with, an online content distributor regarding the terms on which the news content of the news creator may be distributed on the Internet.
Meta doesn't agree with the ban, and said the firm would consider removing news from Facebook altogether.
They believe the plan is a disregard for the value it provides to news outlets in traffic and subscription.
Put simply, the government creating a cartel-like entity which requires one private company to subsidize other private entities is a terrible precedent for all American business.
News advocacy groups, on the other hand, argued news outlets being paid a large share of ad revenue would only be fair as Meta generates huge sums of money from news articles published on the platform.
They claimed small publications struggled during the pandemic, while Meta raked in huge profits.
Countering this narrative is Met itself, playing out the valuable work it does by driving traffic to news sources, adding that publishers only put their content on its platform because it benefits them and not the other way around.
The firm explained the idea of paying for content is not appropriate, as revenue made from sharing news on Facebook accounts make for a small fraction, not all, of its revenue.
This law is part of a larger group aimed at tackling the dominance of big tech.
Amy Klobuchar came up with a plan introduced by the bill.
And while JCPA bans any coalition from excluding organizations based on political leaning or size, Republicans feared the plan would only benefit legacy media.
The Senate Judiciary approved the bill in September, and of course it's controlled by the Democrats.
Opponents now worry the bill, initially a standalone, would be adopted into a must-pass defense bill.
If it happens, passing through Congress would not be an issue.
The Australian government passed a similar law in March of 2021.
In reaction, MEDA shut down Facebook news feeds in the country.
The ban affected pages for fire departments, emergency services, and other essential organizations in the country.
However, after a while, the firm reached an agreement with the Australian government to reverse the ban.
Joe, your thoughts?
Yes, well, we're getting a life-size picture of exactly how corrupt big tech and the mainstream media have been ever since the passage of the Smith-Munt
The CIA, they passed the original Smith like 1952, because they found out that the CIA was using Operation Mockingbird against people in America and they said, Oh, you got to stop doing that.
But they just went more covert.
And we know for a fact that they had every major news organization in the United States covered very well since at least 1950.
So yeah, it's a horrible situation.
But now that we're getting some peeks inside the sausage machine at Twitter, it's pretty hard to deny that the federal government is running these things as a front organization to give the appearance of egalitarian communication among the citizens of the world when in fact it's nothing but a data scraping operation as well as a public manipulation.
Joe, I think you got it right.
Chris?
Yeah, I think the metaverse will probably be the only place that any of us will ever own property in the way it seems to be going.
And that's pretty damn sad.
And I think it's really all tied together with things like the NeuroLace initiatives, the vaccine agenda, the graphene oxide, all this stuff.
They're trying to use these DARPA weapons to digitally hijack human behavior.
And it's next level social engineering, if you ask me.
It goes beyond what they do with NGOs and social media in terms of behavioral insight teams and bots and things like that.
All these FAANGs offerings, in my opinion, are DARPA weapons that are being marketed and released and funded by the public through IPOs.
And they're bringing in this technocratic feudalism.
And they want us all to be slaves on their digital plantations.
So that's the plans for those of us who are fortunate enough to survive their soft kill and hard kill measures.
And I have to say, in terms of taking these poison apple or Trojan horse offerings, run like hell, fight like hell, because this is everything here.
And they really want to put people that are...
Just say not capable of handling our current reality into these virtual reality escapisms and offerings.
And just like they've always done, this is like a next level thing, like Joe was saying.
The Smith-Mundak was passed because they found out after World War II that the mainstream media, these authors, these stringers, these publishers, these producers in Hollywood, these politicians, were creating these phantom menaces and funding both sides of the war to That was a very surgical dissection, Chris.
Very good.
take the resources and properties.
So nothing's new except maybe the complexity by which they're conducting these things and the political offerings which they're rebranding and turning loose to the public.
So see through it and don't fall for it.
Don't dive in after it, more importantly.
That was a very surgical dissection, Chris.
Very good.
Meanwhile, Biden brags about accomplishment, but a note from Musk appears to refute it.
Thank you.
Democrat Biden's Twitter account has failed another fact check, this time over a claim about the nation's unemployment numbers.
The left isn't happy about their political idol being treated like a conservative, meaning as they treat conservatives.
Biden's Twitter account has been humiliated again after context was added to a tweet relating to a claim about falling unemployment numbers during two years in office.
The White House bragged about reduced unemployment claims and Biden took office, pointing out they declined from 18.8 to 1.4 over the course of his presidency.
The tweet made no reference to unemployment stemming from coronavirus, and the community note inserted made that important distinction.
The fact check noted context.
COVID rapidly drove significantly higher than normal claims beginning in 3.20, peaking at 33 million in 7.20, and then gradually climbed to today.
For reference, the average from 2017 to 2019 was 1.8 million.
White House bogus claims fact-checked again.
Here we have a tweet about it that is setting the record straight.
It should also be noted, as the Western Journal reported, two federal financial assistance programs passed to help Americans who lost jobs have expired since December 31, 2020.
Which also drove people back into the workforce.
Several states, most led by Republican governors, ended those programs early, a bit pleased for business owners who are having difficulty filling open positions.
This is the second time since October Biden's official Twitter account has been hit with a fact check.
Then the account posted, Let me give you the facts.
In 2020, 55 corporations made $40 billion, and they paid zero in federal taxes.
My Inflation Reduction Act puts an end to this.
The platform added contacts with links to justify the correction.
The Inflation Reduction Act imposed a minimum tax on corporations with average retaxed earnings greater than a billion.
Of the 55, the tweet referenced only 14 had earnings greater than a billion and would be eligible under the new law.
The latest fact check comes as Twitter boss Elon Musk continues to make major changes, including firing James Baker.
The FBI former top legal counsel linked to the phony Russiagate narrative, then GOP presidential nominee and later President Donald Trump was saddled with throughout his tenure.
Baker was dismissed by Musk after it was revealed that he, as deputy counsel for the platform, was heavily involved in censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story in the weeks before the 2020 election.
With light of concern about Waker's possible role in suppression of information important to the public dialogue, he was exited from Twitter today, Musk tweeted on Monday.
Very, very good.
Fox added, Waker was involved in discussion about whether the laptop falls under Twitter's lack-materials policy.
I support the conclusion we need more facts to assess whether the material were hacked, he said in one email.
At this stage, it's reasonable to assume they may have been and that caution is warranted.
Meanwhile, to which former Deputy Counsel Jane Baker again seemed to advise staying the non-course because caution is warranted, Matt Taiabi explained.
An article mustered in his tweet from Georgetown, Professor Jonathan Turley noted Baker was at the center of the Twitter suppression scandal.
He wrote, Baker has been featured repeatedly in the Russian investigation launched by the Justice Department, including the hoax involving the Russia Alpha Bank.
The outlet went on.
Several notable conservatives and journalists responded to the firing.
The editor-in-chief of The Federalist, Molly Hemingway, tweeted, James Baker, implicated in the Russian collusion hoax that so damaged the country, now gone from Twitter.
Josh Hawley, that Baker should be brought before Congress.
Republicans should call Baker, former FBI lawyer, before he went to Twitter to testify on possible FBI attempts to coerce Twitter into election interference.
Ilz Manz Chong tweeted, Cleaning House!
There should be no space for those who would seek to undermine Twitter's role in the dissemination of truth over establishment narratives.
Baker's firing comes on the heels of a dump of Twitter files provided to Matt Tiabi and Barry Wise.
In a lengthy thread posted last week, Tiabi noted the platform colluded with both political parties, but mostly Democrats, to squelch content deemed harmful to certain narratives.
He explained Baker hindered the search for information, adding there'll be more to come.
Over the weekend, while we both dealt with obstacles to new searches, it was Barry Wise who discovered the person in charge of releasing the fuzz was someone named Jim.
When she called to ask Jim's last name, the answer came back, Jim Baker.
My jaw hit the floor.
Baker's a controversial figure.
He's been something of a zealot of FBI controversy dating back to 2016 from the Steele dossier to the Alpha Server mess.
He resigned in 2018 after an investigation into leaks to the press.
He should not have been at Twitter at all, ever, from the beginning, which indicates a degree of corruption of the then owners and managers, Joe.
Yes, well we've had a very corrupt FBI forever.
We attended a meeting last night in the city of Allen by author Mark Shaw about Hoover and his involvement in the JFK issue, and then probably in the MLK and RFK, and all of the cover-ups that he engaged in.
This is J. Edgar Hoover, and then he was finally removed.
But look at what we've had recently.
We had Mueller, who was appointed But got ill and was actually sworn in on September 4th, 2001.
A week later, exactly one week later, 9-1-9-11 happened.
And what did he do?
Absolutely nothing.
He covered it up.
What did he do about the two weeks later when the anthrax happened?
Covered it up.
What was his punishment for doing that after having served out his eight-year term?
Obama gave him a two additional year extension on his term.
And then, Yeah, yeah.
He was replaced by Comey, another empty suit.
And Comey managed to screw up everything to the point where he finally got bumped out.
And who'd they replace him with?
Christopher Goodhair Ray.
And he's also screwed up.
So bottom line is we've had three traitors that are still alive that were in the FBI for the last 22 years.
And nothing has been done against any of them.
Yeah, yeah.
Chris?
Yeah, you know, to add to your points, Joe, the FBI was also heavily involved with not only the prohibition, selective busts and more or less the letting people get passes in terms of gangsters and the mafia.
You remember the Velocci papers and many other things.
They talked about Murder Incorporated, many other things.
The House Un-American Activities Committee, they basically had internal journalists like Winchell and many others that were FBI informants and And even CIA operatives in many other cases too.
The Red Scare after World War II as well, the cover-ups in JFK, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy, the mafia hearings, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, on and on and on.
And in addition to what you're talking about with the election bullshit that they try to put on, the Russian hacking that was pretty much funded by State Department visas and operatives for the State Department.
To foist complicity onto Russia when it was truly people trying to, well the deep state, trying to bring in Hillary Clinton as the candidate for 2016.
And of course this all ties together in my opinion.
Going back to Elon Musk, I kind of think he's more of the Henry Ford of the day, a guy they need to put out there to get some sort of street credibility.
He's doing the right things at the right times and I think that If you look at his background, he is a Masonic occultist.
He's an insider for the outsiders.
In my opinion, he's a grassroots turf leader, a control opposition guy that is necessary because word on the street is far out screaming the official narratives in terms of traditional rumor and echo chambers and even on social media.
So they need to keep people off the street, not on the street.
And certainly if they're on the street, they need to be controlled by These NGO and World Economic Forum operatives, the Judas goats and sheepdogs that they put in place, the white hats as they like to call them.
But in my opinion, I think really, until I see more from Elon Musk, he's certainly not going to win me over in terms of my sentiments.
And I hope he proves me wrong.
Well, I'll just say I like what he's doing now.
I'll tell you, he's making Twitter a bastion of freedom of speech by taking full advantage of it.
So, you know, for the time being, Chris, I think he counts as a good guy, but I'm not naive.
Your admonitions, your concerns are well-founded.
Meanwhile, we need to honor David Ray Griffin, who has now died.
He was a leader in 9-11 research.
We're lucky to have had three score and ten to experience as much as we can take in of David Ray Griffin.
Some even extraordinary people rise above their own lives to interpret events and the fabric of the universe.
We have such with him.
A professor of religion and theology at Claremont School and Claremont Graduate University with John Cobb Jr., he founded the Center for Process Studies in 1973.
He stated, the task of a theologian is to look at the world from what we imagine the divine perspective.
One could care about the good of the whole and love all the parts.
Not only was he an outstanding theologian and one of the two best-known living scholars of Alfred North Whitehead's process theology, the other being John Cobb, his book spanned related fields of postmodernism, theodicy, primordial truth, pantheism, scientific naturalism, parapsychology, Buddhist thought, and mind-body interaction.
About the time he retired in 2004, he was approached by some who admired his candor, concerned with evidence that 9-11 was highly suspicious.
At first, he thought it was simply blowback from the way the U.S.
had treated the Middle East.
Researching more deeply, he realized there was indeed a serious likelihood the U.S.
had contrived 9-11 as a false flag to manufacture consent to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq for their oil.
The Injustice fired his energy, research, and depth and produced a dozen scholarly books on 9-11, books that were not acknowledged in the media, the mainstream, but engaged in cat-and-mouse with the purveyors of the official narrative, who continually adapted their story to cover up the weaknesses that he tracked and revealed.
The first and foremost, most famous, the new Pearl Harbor disturbing question about the Bush administration in 9-11, published by Interlink Press in March of 2004.
That bestseller was followed by a devastating takedown of the Bush administration whitewash entitled the 9-11 Commission Report on Motions and Distortions, which exposed 115 problems in the 571-page lie.
Following these, he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2008 and 2009, named among the 50 people who mattered the most by the New Statesman.
In November 2008, his seventh book, The New Pearl Harbor Revised, was one of only 51 awarded as Pick of the Week by Publishers Weekly.
What followed was extraordinary.
As a foremost book-reviewing tool in the English language, Publisher's Weekly Spotlight should have led to reviews in the New York Times, the Times Literary Library Journal, and other top-reviewing sources.
But the word was put out to give it a pass.
In 2011, David and I—this is Elizabeth Woodward—founded an organization called the 9-11 Consensus Panel, consisting of more than 20 professionals in various aspects.
In 2018, the 51 consensus points were developed and published in 9-11 Unmasked, an international review panel investigation.
During that seven-year project, he addressed the existential crisis of climate change, penning his encyclopedia, Reference Unprecedented, Can Civilization Survive the CO2 Crisis?
I took that book to the Paris Climate in 2015 and presented it there with a YouTube documentary.
This, unfortunately, is where he went off the rails.
He then turned his attention to U.S.
imperialism, Ryan Bush and Cheney, how they ruined America and the world in 2016, producing the incredible work of scholarship The American Trajectory, Divine or Demonic, in 2018.
He turned his attention in 2019 to his long-planned Christian Gospel for America as a systematic theology, as a magnum opus of enormous breadth and depth.
He confronts the science vs. religion issue, showing some scientists, former atheists, have been overwhelmed by the extent of precise ratios between chemical elements of Earth required for life, how the universe was fine-tuned for life, and thus reflected a fine-tuner or divine creator.
In 2022, as he approached the end, struggling along so with prostate cancer, he wrote the beautiful, crying reflection, James and Whitehead on Life After Death.
In the spirit of William James and Alfred North Whitehead, he explains the universe is not separate from but is within God and is the very nature of God.
A new understanding of divine reality pantheism meaning all in God.
The causal principles exist naturally, being inherent in the nature of things.
But it was not yet done.
In March of 2023, David's America on the Brink, How the U.S.
Trajectory Led Faithfully to the Russo-Ukraine War, was completed during the last days of his life.
He'd written 20, 50 books, more than 200 essays.
In all of his books, most notably those on American imperialism, he read and cited scholarly investigations from top university presses, effectively overriding the propaganda that had passed down for many years.
Paul Craig Roberts wrote, David has served truth to the hilt.
He is a hero of our time.
There's no question his body of work will go down as some of the most elegant thinking our century has witnessed.
At some point, his chronicling of historically suppressed truths must emerge into full daylight.
Let us keep his work alive so that Earth's future people would inherit the great spectrum of wisdom.
He stands with the greats, yet he was quiet, humorous, down-to-earth, and unassuming.
Elizabeth Woodward, A career medical librarian, co-author of five books, worked with David Ray Griffin in numerous capacities from 2006 to 2022.
She did proofreading, editing on about a dozen of his books and many of his essays, co-authored two with him, and also written in-depth reviews of most of his books from the 2000-2022.
Here are some of those books that were indeed impressive, there's no doubt about it.
I would add, however, I just tweeted about it, With the death of David Ray Griffin, the public needs to know that A&E 9-11 and Judy Wood and Dews will not talk about who is responsible and why.
The public deserves to know 9-11 truth.
Let me just add, even David Ray Griffin Well, I admire David Ray Griffin.
Israel in 9/11, and absent the role of Israel, you cannot understand 9/11.
So while I admire David Ray Griffin, indeed when I founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth in December of 2005, I invited him to be my co-chair.
He declined and suggested I invite Steve Jones, a physicist from BYU, instead, which I did.
He would later tell me he'd not believed at the time a society could make a difference, but indeed he admitted he had been wrong, because I brought together experts from all over the world, hundreds in numbers, with a webpage announcing videos, lectures, making available massive quantities of evidence about 9-11 that otherwise would have been Dispersed around the world and not available for aggregation.
So in my opinion, it's a mixed blessing.
He did a whole lot of good, but I gotta fault him for his failure to come clean about Israel.
Joe?
Yeah, well, he can be faulted very easily for his belief in the global warming hoax.
So that indicates that he has a real lack of scientific knowledge.
Jim and I did probably a dozen different interviews starting on March 16th of 2015 on the nuclear vaporization of the World Trade Center building, and we debated against several other different hypotheses.
As well as just extemporaneously between us.
My information was based on 80 articles that were under the heading Nuclear Education and Veterans Today.
And then I wrote an article that was supposed to be an 800-word memo to the President for Robert David Steele, along with 27 other authors, including James Spencer and the aforementioned Architects and Engineers for 9-1-foot Truth, Richard Gage and Judy Woods, and then I also wrote two additional articles when I thought I might be on coast to coast with that subject, and one of those ended up disclosing the Palmer Report, which is absolutely fabulous.
So, Jim and I have covered this repeatedly.
We did it in the last two conspiracies, but this year we decided to do the global warming conspiracy.
Uh, so you can pick that up this year.
You can look at either last two years videos on that.
But yeah, anybody that.
Can't name who it was.
I attended the Austin TruthFest on September 11th of 2016, exactly 15 years after the attack, and one of the contributors there was Christopher Bolin, and he's got a book, Solving 9-1-1, and it's just chapter after chapter of all of the Israeli connections at every level of the financial espionage involved in the World Trade Center buildings, and so You want to know who did it?
That's it.
You want to know how it was done?
Check the work that Jim and I have done on that.
That's right.
Christopher is excellent on the politics, but he's weak on the science.
I'd also say David Red Griffin's work in theology is something of which I have also been a critic.
I published a critique of one of his most important arguments, And of course, he really didn't quite understand evolution.
I mean, he's offering an argument from design that is not difficult to counter if you understand the way in which evolution proceeds.
We're only organisms that have adaptive capability to survive to reproduce their genes in future populations, so it turns out it looks as though everything is perfectly adaptive, but it's been a long process of trial and error.
Chris, your thoughts?
Yeah, I don't want to downplay this guy's contributions to the 9-11 truth, but I would have to say that these selective omissions are critical in terms of being mentioned.
There's far too many that have paid with their lives to bring the truth out in this, and they need to be remembered in my opinion as well.
You know, there's really no money in the truth, especially when it comes to sidestepping the algorithmic metrics of censorship for some of these guys.
So, I mean, not to take anything away or give anything back to him on that.
Maybe that could be a strong factor in terms of being published versus basically being run out of town.
Yeah, I think also a point I like to make is that mankind has often been fanatical about explaining the inexplicable and identifying with proper nouns, the omnipresent forces of nature and life, and attributing them to gods or to religious notions, mostly which are created by the very same people that some of these authors refuse to name.
So, I don't know.
I really don't want to diminish any appreciation for this man and his contributions, but I think that there are some people that maybe are presenting a much stronger, more accurate case.
Like you say, you mentioned Bolin, Eustace Mullins, many others.
You know, even just simply naming these guys that have done this to us, these Jews, is a big thing.
So, you know what I mean?
Give shouts out to HT and many other guys that have been out there at the tip of the spear of this because, you know, they deserve recognition too.
Excellent.
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Here we have a comment about David Lifton, who is a very important figure in JFK research.
I regard his book, Best Evidence, Disguise and Deception in the Assassination of JFK, in 1980, the single most important book ever published in the history of JFK research.
He not only observed that the skull had been altered at Bethesda, where the physician at Parkland had observed a fist-size Blowout at the back of the head, where when you read the Bethesda autopsy report, it's a massive missing back of his head all the way up into the top.
He actually called a physician of his acquaintance and read him a description of the wound, which is described in mathematical detail in the Bethesda autopsy report, and asked him what it sounded like to him it happened to the patient without identifying him.
And he said it sounded as though he'd been hit in the back of the head with an axe.
Lifton was also very good at discovering the game they played about the body with an ambulance deception, where it was actually offloaded from Air Force One at Andrews and put into a helicopter to be flown to Walter Reed Hospital, where the best physicians removed various metallic objects from the body and then put it in a pinkish-gray shipping casket and sent it over to Bethesda, a black hearse, while Jackie in the bronze ceremonial casket
We're approaching Bethesda with an enormous entourage, but where the body was already in the morgue undergoing autopsy.
Fascinating story.
I admired Lifton.
He wasn't perfect, but he made a major contribution.
I'd just like to point out, too, before the Supreme Court was this wonderful photograph on the left of a Connecticut State Police crime scene investigation vehicle in Sandy Hook.
And the reason it's so devastating is if you look just above the vehicle, the four windows in Classroom 10 are undamaged.
Here you see them undamaged.
But after the event, they'd be damaged.
They even drilled holes in the aluminum, put in weak rods to make it simulate bullet holes.
It was all totally fraudulent, in my opinion.
The single photograph, which shows the vehicle there already before the crime has been completed, although crime tape is up, is the single most damning proof that the whole thing was a fraud.
Meanwhile, final thoughts.
Joe, yours.
Yes, well I've been onto this monkey for a very, very long time.
I got my first red pill in 1972.
Got a great video on that at bit.ly slash capital J-O-E, capital O-L-S-O-N, and then the number two.
And like I said, I went to the meeting last night with author Mark Shaw, and he was investigating some of the stuff in the JFK thing.
But one other thing that I've come across many times before, but this gives a pretty good capitalization of it, National Security Council Directive, NFC 5412-2, Covert Operations.
This is a site called teachingamericanhistory.org, and what they claim is that The CIA created the 5412 Commission.
And what I previously read is it was adopted in 1954.
They say it was in 1955.
I don't want to quibble about that.
But basically what it was is the majestic 12, the 12 people that run the planet, were going to decide who needed to be executed.
And that was anybody that was a politician or an investigative reporter or a military or industrial leader that threatened the hegemony of the banking elite.
And so basically, they operated this in the CIA.
And what they did is they allowed extrajudicial executions or assassinations, however you want to call it, with just the approval of the vice president so that when the president was questioned about it, he'd have plausible deniability, both of those terms that they used at that time. he'd have plausible deniability, both of those terms that they So this was passed in 1954.
Guess who was VP in 1954?
Oh, that's right.
Tricky Dick.
He authorized several dozen assassinations worldwide that we know for a fact happened and that were done by the CIA.
But then, who was vice president in 1961?
Oh, that would be LBJ.
So LBJ was in charge of just getting the 12 people to agree to snuff somebody.
An example was the CIA snuffing the president of Vietnam, Ngo Dinh Diem, on November 2nd, 1963, and supposedly JFK had agreed to it.
So there again, you have JFK agreeing to the murder of a foreign leader Where we're going to end up going to war.
And that's just further reasons why nobody in the Kennedy family wants to come out and say too much about it.
So bottom line is 5412 has been an absolutely horrible thing.
United States government has been involved in assassinations worldwide.
And like we mentioned yesterday, 211 conflicts in 67 countries just since World War II.
So that keeping the world safe for peace that the UN was founded Chris, your final thoughts?
Yeah, I don't think it's anything about keeping the world safe for democracy.
I think it's just more them trying to rid any leaders of any sense of popular sovereignty from ever taking power, and by extrajudicial means in many cases.
Both those veeps you talk about have notoriously had hitmen by their side, people that they dispatched to do their dirty work, whether it's Mack Wallace or many others with Nixon, you know, his plumbers and many more.
The CIA has run these operatives just like the FBI has covered up for them or given them official cover.
And more importantly, things like Operation Chaos was actually putting some of these military operatives in prison sometimes to serve as alibis and then letting them out to do what they do and then sneaking them back into prison so that they would never even be suspected in terms of the list of usual suspects.
So there is something that Kay Griggs brought up about the satanic forces in our military, and I think they're very strongly tied and correlated to a lot of the serial killers that are going on in the world.
If you remember George Bush, he pardoned Henry Lee Lucas, the only person he ever pardoned is the governor of Texas.
You know, John Wayne Gacy was a stronghold operative for the Democratic Party, same with Ted Bundy for the Republicans.
Podesta has been, you know, probably implicated in many of these instances that involve pedophilia and murder.
Going on and on, Hillary Clinton and on through the Clinton kill list.
Man, I think there's a lot to be said about these occultists murdering the innocent in the way that they do, and then using the conventional media and the law and these apparati under the intelligence services to serve as cover-up, and to hang out scapegoats like some of the serial killers that they put out in the headlines.
So, great comments, Joe and Fetz, and I'm just glad to have the opportunity to express my thoughts on that.
Well, I'm glad to have both your opinions, and you make lots of wonderful contributions.
In this case, however, Joe's mistaken.
Jack did not want the Diem brothers assassinated any more than he wanted Patrice Lumumba to be taken out.
He was devastated when that happened.
Joseph Fidel Castro and Nikita Khrushchev were devastated when JFK was whacked.
He was a man for peace, but he was betrayed by members of his own administration, just as was Donald Trump.
Including the Bundy brothers.
It's outrageous what took place.
It was the American ambassador to Vietnam at the time who was a key player in having the Diem brothers taken out.
Jack was just mortified and felt terribly about it.
So listen, I think you guys both do a great job.
Now and then you're going to be overwhelmed by one point or another.
I'm just here to say that's a mistaken conception about Jack.
He was really on the up and up in these matters and really cared about And when he was confronted with Operation Northwoods, where the Joint Chiefs wanted to fake shooting down a plane, blame it on Cuba and all this other happy horse shit, he was appalled, and left the meeting, saying to his consort, and they call us the human race.
That's, he, he, the Lemon Limelight, sir, the guy that put that plan out in Northwoods, he said he never wanted to see that guy again, and that was his frickin' Chief of Staff.
Very, very good.
Very good, Chris.
Well, I want to thank you both.
I want to say on the eve of this weekend, spend as much time as you can with your friends, your family, the people you love.
We still do not know how much time we have left.
Twitter, I think, is a very positive sign for the time being, but I appreciate the caveats we've heard from both Joe and Chris.
We'll take nothing for granted, but for the time being, I'm giving Elon Musk gold stars.
Thanks for being here.
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