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Nov. 26, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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The New JFK Show #273 Malcolm X, HL Hunt & JFK
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Welcome to the new JFK Show, number 273.
We've got Larry Rivera, fresh back from Dallas with two presentations, one about Malcolm X and the other one's about 13 books that he did a presentation on.
So we're going to turn it over to Larry right now.
This is a long presentation, so we might as well get busy.
So how you doing, Larry?
Hey, how you guys doing tonight?
It's been a little while since we've done a show, but we're ready for some more.
Well, let me tell you, you know, it was, uh, it was a long time coming, you know, you know, these conferences that finally one that was able to have been conducted in person.
And, uh, and it was a long time coming, you know, you know, the usual suspects, but, you know, Kappa was over there, uh, and that was it.
And I guess, You know, some of these conferences, others, other conferences are getting smaller and smaller, you know, and one of the things that was presented that I wanted to share with you guys was this, okay, which is a rendering of the Harper fragment that we've been doing, working on for a while now, and finally we're able to, you know, get
You know, uh, results in the sense that you can finally hold it and appreciate, you know, the curvature and the, the, actually the size, you know, the width was really surprising.
And the pictures, it looks so much smaller than that.
I really, no, but see, that's what Jim, that's it.
The pictures are designed to take that.
Yeah.
You know, take that away, you know, so that, uh, You're not able to decipher exactly where it came from.
The occipital parietal area is about eight millimeters thick.
All right, and that's what this is.
And what's very impressive is, you know, the way that it printed out, you know.
And this is like a real prototype, you know.
It's gonna get better, but it's a really, really good start.
Anyway... Has David seen it yet?
Yes, I sent him pictures of it, and we couldn't coincide, you know, because he was at the, I think, Adolphus is where they were at?
And we were at the Doubletree.
And so, but yes, definitely.
And he has been involved in helping with the thickness, you know, of the specimen.
And the thing about it is that, you know, this is what I think is what Stavis Ellis, remember when he said about the kid picking up... Yeah.
Yeah, and... A piece of skull from a little boy and throwing it back in the car.
Exactly.
And this appears to be, you know, especially because Dr. Mantic has been able to locate this one exactly, you know, in the back of the head.
Right, right, right, right.
And proving that you had shots from the front that went through and, you know, this was the result, you know.
This wasn't the only one, by the way.
I'm sure there were other fragments, you know, maybe just as big, but because the diagram that Dr. Crenshaw did for you, right?
Yep.
Was maybe perhaps Pretty close approximation.
And there may, of course, have been a little more to the opening.
That's just that piece, that intact piece that came out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Amazing.
And it was the size of your fist, so you can kind of... Yeah.
And I don't know if you can appreciate the curvature there, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway.
And Judith's new book.
I mean, her own book, but with a new title, so to speak.
All right.
And that's it.
The usual stuff.
How is the quality of the book, Larry, in terms of production?
Very good.
Very good.
Yeah.
It's very heavy.
Very heavy.
Extremely heavy.
And the stock is, you know, very good.
And is this an expanded version of the original?
Yes.
Yes.
She added, that's what I was telling you.
She added the part about the Mexican presidents.
All right.
And it's been moving.
She built on your research, but nevertheless sought to create the impression that Lee had actually gone to Mexico City.
Well, she just mentions that, uh, in relation to that, that Lee didn't know, you know, just tries to weave it into the narrative, you know, but, uh, you know, just, I think it's more of an information type of thing that she, that she puts in there, you know, To show how corrupt, I guess, the Mexico City Station was, you know, sleeping with the enemy.
Anyway, the main thing that we did over there was Malcolm X, and we've got some very, very surprising new information, okay, because it connects straight to Dallas.
And in doing so, it opens up, as far as I'm concerned, a whole new playing field on Uh, on the Malcolm X assassination, but also indirectly the JFK.
There are so many, so many parallels between one and the other.
You know, I'm just amazed that they had the audacity to do that right after the JFK assassination within, what, uh, 13 months or something, or something like that, you know, to do the hit on Malcolm X.
But the parallels are really, really astonishing, you know, between one and the other.
And Larry, this'll be a two-parter, so tonight we'll get- Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
Hopefully what we're gonna be able to see is what is known as the Black Zapruder film.
Okay.
You mean it's a film of Malcolm being shot?
Not of Malcolm being shot, but of the aftermath Outside the Audubon, where the one who did the shooting with the shotgun is involved in a scuffle outside and is allowed by the NYPD to just walk away from the scene.
Wow!
Yeah, it's a very, very sad story.
Okay, you guys are ready?
I'm gonna share the screen, okay?
Yep, you got it, you got it.
Alright.
I want to learn about William X. Bradley, you know, tonight.
Okay, are you good there?
We got it.
Yep, we can see him fine.
Okay, well, there's our man of the hour, and this whole thing breaks down in entities, and the way that they are set here is in layers, okay?
The top nation of Islam in between the NYPD, and at the right, You will see BOSSI, which was Bureau of Special Investigations, and below that, the FBI and the CIA.
And the way that this is laid out is on purpose, okay?
Because obviously, from below into the intermediary, okay, and then the top, which is the facade, all right?
Uh, Malcolm's biographers, which, uh, have been used here.
Alex Haley, uh, remember Roots?
Um, he was his, uh, first biographer, actually.
And, uh, but his biography stopped and ended at the assassination.
Eric Norton, who is, as far as I'm concerned, the star, you know, and, uh, because The information that he provides is just amazing, where his research was never able to be published in the mainstream printed media, where he had to go to... I don't know if you ever heard of The Realist, which was a real underground... and Hustler, of course.
So those were the outlets that he was only allowed, but the information that he provided was just unbelievable, you know, because it goes straight to the truth, okay?
Peter Goldman, 1973, just a couple of things here, Manny Marable, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his work in 2011, and Carl Evans, who had the same problem of being able to find a publisher, you know.
And as early as 1981, he already had a manuscript.
Finally, 1992 and in 2017, you know, where his book, The Judas Factor, and used it quite a bit here in this thing.
And Omar Shabazz, you know, a great producer on YouTube, you know, and he's got the Black Zapruder film.
And another guy, obviously, even Steven, Also, we're using some of that.
Now, Malcolm and Muhammad Ali were blood brothers, alright?
This is how it used to be, alright?
When Ali fought Sonny Liston in Miami in 1964, Malcolm, he invited Malcolm and his family, his complete family, and they went Over there and they had a great time and they were special guests, you know, and we get this charming picture.
All right, which went on the wire actually.
Okay, and you know, he was the guest of the challenger, you know, and everything.
I mean, and this is the celebration after he beats on a list and he goes and Don's a tuxedo.
And it's Ali and Malcolm hamming it up during his post-fight victory party at the diner of the Hampton House, which catered mostly to African Americans, and to the delight of those present.
Now, you know, mind you that Ali did not go and celebrate With his white trainer, Angelo Dundee, and Ferdie Pacheco, or his Kentucky investors, you know?
He went to celebrate with Malcolm X, alright?
His brother, alright?
And that is important, you know?
If you go back here, you know, And these pictures, you know, show and they tell a story, you know, right there at the top, bright, the Bundini Brown.
Remember his spiritual advisor, Ali, eating ice cream, you know, and Malcolm taking pictures and, you know, and Ali mugging, you know, and everything.
So you see a gentleman here.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Can I, I can use, can you see my mouse pointer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
This guy right here, Milton, Milton Henry.
Very, very important guy in this story, all right?
Because he's the one that went overseas with Ali.
I mean, with Malcolm, you know, when things happened over there, you know, that we're going to talk about in a second here.
And then we go here, and here, and here.
And then came, guess what?
JFK.
The JFK assassination.
And this is exactly what Malcolm said, and never have I seen a man in my life more afraid or more frightened than Elijah Muhammad was when John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
I've never in my life seen a man as frightened as he was, and when I made the statements that I did, why, he almost cramped up behind it, because there were all kinds of implications to it that at that time were way above and beyond my understanding.
And He's talking about this six days before his own death, 15 February 1965.
Okay, he's talking about Elijah Muhammad's reaction to the news of JFK's assassination, 22 November 1963.
Okay, and we're gonna hear this recording in a second here, and it's gonna flip you out.
So then comes this, the split with the Nation of Islam, Over chickens coming home to roost.
All right.
So, Jim, you want to help me out there?
I'm getting a little thirsty.
Believe it or not, the most important Malcolm X-JFK connection put in motion, Malcolm's undoing with the Nation of Islam, can be traced back to his comments after the JFK assassination.
Prior to JFK's demise, Malcolm X had been a harsh critic of the Kennedy administration and its apparent lackadaisical record on civil rights.
And what he perceived to be is a lack of action after the assassination of Medgar Evers and the Birmingham Baptist Church bombing that killed four young African American girls at Sunday school on 15 September 1963.
The next slide shows an article published by the New York Times on 2 December 1963 describing Malcolm's public reaction to the JFK assassination, which brought about a 90-day suspension by Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad.
The story went viral nationwide via the mainstream, including television.
Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad.
They've always made me glad.
So what is he talking about there, you know?
Obviously the metaphor of chickens, you know, coming home to roost, but when... We're gonna look at that article that's on December the 2nd in the New York Times, and just breaking it down briefly here, You know, you can see, you know, that at least in the New York Times, they were saying they were writing what he was saying.
And in this case, You can see, you know, how involved and how knowledgeable Malcolm was about international issues, okay?
So he starts out by, even though at the time he didn't know that Kennedy and the situation with the Ziem brothers, you know, where Kennedy was completely freaked out when they assassinated those.
All right.
And but he's he he didn't know that side of the story.
So in here he's accusing Mr. Kennedy of tooling his thumbs at the killing of the Ziem brothers.
And Malcolm told a black Muslim rally at the Manhattan Center that he never foresaw that the chickens would come home to Ruth so soon.
So that's in the sense of that situation, okay, that event.
But then he also applies it to the other events, you know, a little bit further down.
For example, the murders of Patrice Lumumba, you know, Medgar Evers, you know, all of these, he's saying, were instances of other chickens coming home to roost.
So never, as he's saying, it is Oh, and by the way, also the paragraph in the middle where he charged that when the media asked the Nation of Islam what was their opinion of the JFK assassination.
So he says, you guys are just trying to set me up into a trap here and make me say You know, something, you know, all, you know, I'm glad that he got it.
Hooray, hooray, you know, and that's not going to happen.
But you know what?
They still turned this whole thing around and made it look that he was happy that JFK, you know, was assassinated.
And then we get this, you know, we get from that Jim and Gary to this, you know, just read the red thing there.
Malcolm X, the leader of the Black Muslim sect, has been suspended for expressing joy at the assassination of President Kennedy.
Isn't that unbelievable?
And now, this is how it starts coming out, even in FBI documents, you know, where they're putting for the record here, even though, you know, it's not their opinion because they're reporting on a story, you know, in the news, for stating that President Kennedy's death pleased him.
And then here's another one, for making such an ill-timed, barbaric statement regarding the death.
I mean, how do you get from chickens coming home to roost to this, Jim?
Yeah, it's pure distortion, Larry, setting him up.
This is a deliberate smear.
And then, obviously, he had to, you know, set the record straight.
You know, he contended that his phrase had been misinterpreted, you know, that he had meant that a spread of social hatred had created an atmosphere that made assassination possible.
And isn't that exactly what we're living today?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Anyway, okay, so I got a sound bite here, and let's listen on this one.
We come here to echo the words of a very wise and much misunderstood man.
His name was Malcolm X, and he was one of the most brilliant political observers and social analysts of our generation.
After the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X observed that the act was an example of, quote, chickens coming home to roost, unquote.
People didn't understand his meaning.
He was criticized for his statement in both the black and the white communities.
It was not long until Malcolm X also fell victim to assassin's bullet.
10 years after the death of Malcolm, we are in a better position to understand his words.
We know of CIA domestic surveillance activities of infiltration, and in some instances, provocation.
We have substantial reason to believe that CIA operatives have been involved in assassination planning abroad, if not also in actual assassinations or attempted assassinations.
We have reason also to believe that domestic forces and foreign assassinations were linked, that is, that the CIA engaged in clandestine cooperative efforts with the Mafia or representatives of organized crime.
With all of these suspicions and revelations now becoming public knowledge, the climate is ripe for understanding Malcolm X's observation over a decade ago.
And that was from the Rockefeller Commission in 1975, alright?
that a CIA who will join forces with organized crime to assassinate foreign leaders will not hesitate to do the same right here in America in the assassination of a president.
And that was from the Rockefeller Commission in 1975.
All right.
And so anyway, meanwhile, as a feud between Malcolm and Elijah boiled over, Ali was forced to take sides and he chose the NOI.
He terminated their friendship.
friendship slash brotherhood and mercilessly denounced Malcolm in public and in the media.
At the end of his years, having realized his mistake, he would reach out to Malcolm's daughters and try to seek redemption.
And hello, hello, hello.
What do you think of this one?
Go ahead. - Marilsson Lafayette, Hunt Jr.
a.k.a.
H.L.
Hunt, February 17th, 1889 to November 29th, 1974.
Was at the Merkison party the night of 21 November 1963.
Spent the next two months in Mexico after the JFK assassination.
His son Nelson had paid for the welcome Mr. Kennedy had in the Dallas Morning News 22 November 1963.
And a vowed racist richest man in the world.
And Phil, our good friend Phil.
Nelson tells us an LBJ mastermind of the JFK assassination.
The venomous nature of H.L.
Hunt and Clint Murchison's attitude toward Kennedy has been proven.
If not, consider our statement there was no way to get these traitors out of the government except by shooting them out.
Their financial wherewithal to finance the operation need not be documented.
That is a given.
For being such a meek looking man, huh?
Yeah.
And this is what, uh, this is what, you know, Dallas Oilman, H.L.
Hunt and the Nation of Islam.
H.L.
Hunt was financing the Nation of Islam and had the backing of the FBI and of the CIA before his assassination.
Malcolm X called attention to it and was among the reasons for rupture of relation with the group and his departure therefrom.
Hunt's hatred of black folks and desire to see them repatriated to Africa, or worse, was the basis for his financial support.
Nasty guy, huh?
Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X said, and this is from Carl Evans.
Yeah, Carl Evans, The Judas Factor.
Tremendous book.
Tremendous.
Malcolm X said he had been depositing contributions from his followers in a secret bank account in Switzerland, and his wife had been doing the same in accounts held in Beirut and Cairo.
Although the Nation of Islam received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations each year, Malcolm X said, the accounting books he examined the messengers of had revealed that the Nation of Islam was spending far more cash than followers were contributing.
When Bradley and Jamal, Malcolm's secretaries, inquired how that was possible, Malcolm X reply hit them like a bombshell.
There's a Texas millionaire who supports not only Elijah Mohana, but the Minutemen and the John Birch Society, Malcolm X said.
His name is H.L.
Hunt.
I think he is in oil.
Hang on to your seat, brother, right here.
You ready?
And I guess many of you have heard it said that his financial support comes from a rich man in Texas.
I heard that while I was in the movement.
I've heard it more since I left the movement.
A rich man in Texas.
You can look up, any of you can look up his name.
But the FBI knows that too.
But they still don't touch him.
And never have I seen a man, and this rich man who lives in Texas, by the way, lives in Dallas.
His headquarters is in Dallas.
His money is in Dallas.
The same city where President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
And never have I seen a man in my life more afraid, more frightened than Elijah Muhammad was when John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
I've never in my life seen a man as frightened as he was.
And when I made the statement that I did, well, he almost cracked up behind it because there were all kinds of implications to it that at that time were way above and beyond my understanding.
You need me to run that by you again?
I think we got to worse, but why do you suppose Elijah Muhammad was so frightened by the death of JFK? - Right.
That is a very, very, very, very interesting question.
You know, why?
What connection is there, you know, that makes him, you know, like Malcolm said, but, you know, this is, New stuff that's, you know, this revelation of the Hunt connection, you know, as far as I'm concerned, opens up, you know, other avenues of investigation.
For example, and I think that, you know, the one that is the most obvious has to be that If Malcolm, I mean, H.O.
Hunt being the patriot that he is, and he finds out that Malcolm, you know, is doing what he's doing overseas, trying to get, you know, drumming up all the support to take the U.S.
to the U.N.
over human rights issues, and getting a lot of support, and where the CIA is trying to take him out, which we're going to talk about now, you know, so, Once you weave that into this, then you start to sort of like think, you know, that he's got the connection to both the CIA and the FBI, and he's got the connection to Nation of Islam.
Now, all we need to do is find, you know, some operatives, you know, in one of the mosques, you know, and in this case, what happened, you know, with the Newark mosque, number 25, to get the crazy, you know, Negroes to do the deed.
And then use the NYPD to cover it up.
You're suggesting Hunt wouldn't have appreciated Malcolm's efforts at bringing the African nations to the United States?
He's what you'd call a true white supremacist.
So, from Carl Evans, you know, Hunt regarded African Americans as a threat to Caucasian control of American politics, as he made clear in numerous radio broadcasts and interviews.
During a radio broadcast in mid-1960, Hunt exposed his abhorrence of African Americans.
Alfred Zoll, one of Hunt's chief ideological allies, had since 1936 advocated sending all African Americans back to Africa.
That's so stupid, you know.
The concept is just ridiculous.
Hence, it's not really surprising that he would be interested in financing the Nation of Islam.
In early 1963, Hunt's commercial corporations were linked to the anti-Semitic liberty lobby and the John Birch.
Now, this isn't like shooting fish in a barrel.
You're going to support all the enemies of each other, right?
What is this all about?
Well, it enables you to manage all the players on the chessboard.
And that's exactly my point.
The implications are mind-boggling, you know?
And, you know, if the Nation of Islam is preaching hatred against the white devil and separation of black and white, establishment of their own, you know, businesses and schools, you know, entertainment banks, you know, segregation, you know, that's exactly, you know, what H.O.
Hunt wants.
If he can't ship them back, right?
It boasted a youth organization called the Fruit of Islam, FYI, which groomed and trained its young members to become part of the collective.
And like I said, you know, H.L.
Hunt loved the concept.
He was the richest man in the world, had unlimited resources to make it happen, and all he needed was somebody like Elijah Muhammad to do his bidding and create A facade that the organization was self-sustaining and profitable.
Now, this Omer Shabazz, who's done a lot, a lot of research on this whole thing, and he observed that Mohammed owned luxury cars, buildings, apartments, businesses, had payroll, he had ministers, managers, administrators, you know, it's an enterprise that, you know, is quite big, and
You know, they had a newspaper, there was a Muhammad Speaks, and that was an enterprise which, you know, was published and distributed nationwide and required, you know, careful administration, coordination, you know, the like.
So, you know, I don't know, this H.O.
Hunt, bringing this H.O.
Hunt thing now into the mix, at this point, You know, and we'll see, you know, maybe how it relates later on in parallels to the JFK assassination.
Now, obviously, this is what the media, you know, started to... oops.
Yeah, Madeleine Brown's talked a lot about Hunt more than anybody else I know.
That's right, that's right.
And I was gonna ask Jim if... what he knew about that.
So anyway, Malcolm, go ahead, let's...
As a result of the NOI suspension, Malcolm went on to form his own African American Muslim organization, the MMI, Muslim Bosque Incorporated, which adopted the Orthodox Sunni version of Islam, and the OAAU, Organization of African American Unity, Do you think he was maybe too much of an idealist?
to be Muslim in the hope of galvanizing and consolidating what in his mind was a true expression of what the Islamic religion should be like and how it should apply to practicing African-Americans.
Do you think he was maybe too much of an idealist, you know, maybe?
Sounds like it.
Moreover, a pan-African model in the Western Hemisphere is what he was proposing, where civil rights could truly have a chance of surviving, especially in America.
His hope of globalizing his dogma was supported by Islamic countries around the world, who received him as a virtual head of state when he visited several times in 1964.
Malcolm was closely monitored by the CIA during these sojourns with a fear that his views on African-American oppression and discrimination would embarrass the United States in international circles.
He was, in fact, the victim of several attempts on his life while traveling overseas.
The concept is thoroughly explored by Eric Norton, and I will be coming back to his work Because according to Norton, the CIA was right in fearing the new Malcolm X. And there it is.
Malcolm's epiphany in 1964.
He converts to orthodox Sunni.
And by the way, that's the one where you have to do prayer five times a day, sunrise to sunup, with your brain at a lower level than your heart.
That's why You have to do the inclination that is required, you know.
And he repudiates the nation of Islam and its teachings of hatred, which had been exposed by Elijah Muhammad for so long.
And that's why, you know, the first thing that comes to mind in mainstream is Malcolm X, you know, violent person, you know, violence.
But in fact, he was actually the opposite.
Well, when you see the pictures of him and his family, he's a family man, you know, and we're going to see some, you know, we're going to do the Up Until Intermission, you know, and then next week we'll do the other, but this is one of the big, one of the, I don't know, I can't think of a bigger American tragedy than the Malcolm X story, Jim.
You know, it's just incredible.
He was a precursor to Martin Luther King, it seems to me, and had in ways, some ways, ideas that were well ahead of his time.
Well, they were working from, you know, different sides of the street, you know, and the thing is that the stigma that Malcolm carried was a violent one, and the one that Martin Luther King was a peaceful one, you know, but he was He was misrepresented.
You'll see.
So, Malcolm goes overseas and he was learning about the world of Islam, but he was learning something else.
That he was well-known and respected throughout the world.
And you get that from the book, By Any Means Necessary.
I mean, By Any Means Necessary.
Yeah, page 148.
Okay, we got some really cool soundbites.
Here we go.
This is from Pierre Tristan.
And we're gonna hear from James Douglas in a minute, okay?
Yes.
On April 13, 1964, Malcolm X left the United States on a personal and spiritual journey through the Middle East and West Africa.
By the time he returned on May 21st, he'd visited Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Ghana, Morocco, and Algeria.
In Saudi Arabia, he'd experienced what amounted to his second life-changing epiphany as he accomplished the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca and discovered an authentic Islam Of universal respect and brotherhood, the experience changed Malcolm's worldview.
Gone was the belief in white people as exclusively evil.
Gone was the call for black separatism.
His voyage to Mecca helped him discover the atoning power of Islam as a means of unity as well as self-respect.
In my 39 years on this earth, he would write in his autobiography, The Holy City of Mecca And here comes the second part.
The Nation of Islam's Elijah Muhammad turned out to be much less than the upstanding moral paragon he pretended to be.
He was a hypocritical, serial womanizer who fathered numerous children out of wedlock with his secretaries, a jealous man who resented Malcolm's stardom, and a violent man who never hesitated to silence or intimidate his critics.
His knowledge of Islam was also relatively slight.
Imagine being a Muslim minister, a leader in Elijah Muhammad's nation of Islam, Malcolm wrote, and not knowing the prayer ritual.
Elijah Muhammad had never taught it.
It took Malcolm's disillusionment with Muhammad and the nation finally to break away from the organization and set out on his own, literally and metaphorically, to the authentic heart of Islam.
So, as noted, Elijah Muhammad was living in hypocrisy by keeping a harem of young secretaries, quote-unquote, for his carnal enjoyment.
Malcolm had been suspecting this since the mid-50s, so it came as no surprise to him.
This might be some, like, salacious stuff, you know, but it's gotta be covered because it's important, you know, so.
Oh, absolutely, Larry!
Absolutely!
Okay, so it came as no surprise.
Some of these were under 18 and already had babies fathered by Muhammad.
According to Marable, it came to a point where the care of so many infants was becoming a problem for Muhammad and the NOI organization.
Soon, there were so many illegitimate children to take care of that new household arrangements were necessary.
Marable, page 183.
After the suspension, Malcolm became directly involved and made sure the public knew about the situation and recorded news interviews.
And of course, it became another source of undoing between Malcolm X and the dishonorable Elijah Muhammad at this point.
Of course, I cannot call him the honorable.
And go ahead.
I mean, this is some real crazy stuff.
You know, go ahead here.
Malcolm went ahead and brought in flamboyant women's rights activist attorney Gladys Root to sue Elijah Muhammad over the paternity of several of the children.
When traveling to L.A.
to concur with Root, he would also make it a point to check in on the two young women and their children.
And she really was flamboyant, man.
And somebody like her at the time, can you imagine?
- He was creating a lawsuit against the nation of Islam.
And according to the FBI document dated after his death, he was blamed on testifying against Elijah Mohammed in open court.
Malcolm X was going to testify against Elijah Mohammed.
But Elijah Mohammed would not have taken that kindly, Larry. - Well, exactly.
And that is why, you know, this is, you know, just like, you know, the decoys, you know, that, like in JFK, you know, you've been duck hunting, right, you know, and, right.
So, yes, right.
So, and Malcolm, you know, even though this is, you know, way, way past his death, you know, but the document says that these cases are not hurried, I'll never be alive.
And that's what Marable He says that women had been so intimidated by the Nation of Islam that they had become frightened for their own safety.
They were living together in L.A., but had moved twice out of fear.
When contacted by L.A. attorney Gladys Tells Ruth, Malcolm encouraged her to speed up her efforts, saying, if the case doesn't get to trial soon, I won't be allowed to testify.
You know, that's the razor's edge that he's living on, you know, at this point in his life.
Jim and Yes, yes, yes.
Well, Elijah is viewing him as a betrayer of the black movement, because Elijah is black.
Malcolm is his enemy.
And he's going to cast him in the most unfavorable light possible, especially when he is indulging in all these very non-Islamic activities.
You know, in Islam, Larry, sex outside of marriage is absolutely forbidden.
Yeah, yeah, by pleasure of my death.
I don't know shit.
But the Islamic version of Elijah Muhammad S.Y.
was a watered-down, and that's exactly Malcolm's point, in, you know, going up to 2.0, so to speak, you know.
Yes, yes.
Right.
As a result of the suspension and antagonism.
The thing, the point about here is that after the JFK assassination, he gets suspended.
For what he said, all right?
So from here on, he's under suspension.
And being under suspension, he said, well, to hell with you.
I'm forming my own two organizations.
And to hell with you.
And a lot of the people that were with you are coming over with me now.
All right, that's very important here.
Well, Larry, it's very clear the suspension was contrived.
It was just an excuse.
Elijah was looking for a reason to punish Malcolm and humiliate him.
Well, not only that, in one of the FBI documents that I saw, you know, just, you know, the Uh, FBI is more or less telling Elijah Muhammad, look, you know, this is enough, enough.
And you got to suspend it, you know, it's not like, you know, was it going to be suspended or not?
You know, it's like they're pushing this onto Muhammad, uh, and to go ahead and suspend, uh, Malcolm X, you know?
So as a result of this, obviously the, and, and, and why, you know, loses power because Malcolm X provided, you know, that public persona, you know, and charisma, you know, that, He was their star power.
Yeah.
Neither Elijah nor Muhammad nor any of his son possessed a public mersonic charisma of Malcolm.
These bozos didn't have.
Malcolm was sure to attract many of Elijah's followers.
Yeah, Larry's internet is cutting in and out.
Yeah, Akbar was one of his sons, and this is also another, like I said, very important to have that impression in the media and newspapers that these guys have a big feud, these guys are, you know, going at each other's throats, you know.
And that is very, very important in the Malcolm X assassination, because, you know, Right now, if you were to ask anybody who killed him, oh, it was the black Muslims.
And that's the end of the story.
But it goes a lot, lot deeper than that.
And these headlines set that tone, you know, that these guys were, you know, they hated each other.
So, assassination attempts, and we're going to hear from James Douglas, the author of JFK and The Unspeakable.
Very good.
Yeah, I have that book.
- Oh, that's a good book. - The key to understanding Malcolm's assassination is the last year of his life.
He spent over half of it outside the United States on four separate trips abroad.
In his autobiography, Malcolm tells a well-known story of his transforming April 1964 Hajj to Mecca.
Where he experienced a profound unity of worship with Muslims of every race, including, quote, whose hair was the blondest of blonde and whose skin was the whitest of white, unquote.
The autobiography says little, however, of Malcolm's July the 9th to November the 24th 1964 travels throughout Africa, an equally important story he was saving for a book he didn't live to write.
The purpose of Malcolm's tour of Africa was to internationalize the plight of Afro-Americans in the U.S.
Malcolm went first to Cairo, where he attended the African Summit Conference and appealed to the delegates of 34 African nations, quote, to help us bring our problem before the United Nations on the grounds that the United States is morally incapable of protecting the lives and the property of 22 million African Americans.
Malcolm wanted to unmask the U.S.
government at the United Nations.
He was taken seriously and that purpose by African heads of state and by his own government.
U.S.
intelligence agents followed him closely, as can be seen from CIA and FBI documents.
Malcolm was acutely aware of the surveillance, which was made obvious by the agents in order to intimidate him.
At the Cairo conference, Malcolm collapsed with stomach pains and was rushed to a hospital.
His stomach was pumped and he survived.
The doctors told him he had consumed a toxic substance at dinner.
They ruled out food poisoning.
Malcolm thought he had been poisoned by the same forces that were shadowing him.
He then wrote an open letter to friends in Harlem in which for making it back to the States, you can rest assured that what I've already set in motion will never be stopped.
Our problem has been internationalized.
Malcolm X by any means necessary.
And... Malcolm continued his human rights campaign for African Americans for four and a half months throughout Africa, speaking before huge crowds in nation after nation, dogged everywhere by the CIA.
Malcolm's friend and writer, Louis Lomax, wrote, By then the CIA was following Malcolm's every move.
Did you freeze up, Larry?
Yeah, Larry froze up on us again.
watched his hotels and even kept them under surveillance during mealtime.
Malcolm...
Did you freeze up, Larry?
Yeah, Larry froze up on us again.
Malcolm told his sister Ella Collins that he narrowly avoided another poisoning in Ethiopia.
I just don't understand how he was that...
I mentioned Milton Henry earlier.
I'm here!
Go, Larry!
Go, go, go!
Go for it.
Okay.
I gotta go back.
Ready?
We finished the quote.
Okay, here we go.
Okay.
I mentioned Milton Henry at the celebration.
Remember this photo?
And here he is.
And this is the attorney, Detroit, who was like Malcolm's brother.
And he's the one that went with him on these trips to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt, you know, to the Middle East, everywhere.
And he's basically the number one witness, you know, To what happened to Malcolm, you know, when they were trying to poison him.
So, and this is from his obituary.
He died actually recently, 2019.
And no matter where and to whom, Henry was not one to capitulate, to harness acts, or to tolerate abuses without striking back.
That same moxie was on display later when he began defending his clients.
And the keen analysis he expressed in the courtroom would also be evident as he began To become an activist in politics, education, and the general quest for human rights.
He wanted Malcolm to get into politics.
He said, Malcolm, you get into politics, man, you'll win.
You can be a congressman, you know, anytime you want.
You know, Henry was trusted, and that is the thing that really, really frightened the extreme right regarding Malcolm.
Henry was a trusted comrade and a loyal member of Malcolm's organization, and this is one of the reasons he was selected to travel with him to Cairo for that international summit conference.
Now, Washington's efforts to silence Malcolm then appear to have passed from the diplomatic to the intelligence apparatus.
Uh, wait, I think, wait, wait, wait, wait, did I?
There you are.
Okay, okay, I jumbled, sorry.
Okay, so I spoke about Eric Norton, okay, and this is from his incredible article on the assassination, the murder of Malcolm X, and he tells us that in July 1964, Malcolm was in Cairo to address that African American, that African Summit conference, and his memorandum to the conference Malcolm violently attacked Washington's domestic and foreign policy, termed the U.S.
government's espousal of civil rights legislation nothing but tricks of the century's leading neocolonialist power, and urged the assembled delegates to bring the U.S.
before the bar of world public opinion at the U.N.
That's powerful stuff, Jim.
It is, it is, it is, it is.
You're talking about, and this is a memorandum that he wrote, you know.
It was, we're so freaked out.
The American Embassy in Cairo engaged in delicate behind-the-scenes negotiations to have Malcolm barred from addressing the conference, but its efforts were coldly snubbed by both Egyptian government and the conference organizers.
Yeah, Larry, I'd like to ask a question if I could.
Malcolm X doesn't seem to be a president or anything like that.
Where did he come from and where did all this power and threat, I mean, right next to Martin Luther King, come from?
Well, the thing about Malcolm was that he was very charismatic, you know.
He was able to attract followers and he was able to organize and, you know, those are qualities that are very dangerous, you know, when you're In the 60s in your African American, you know, he was just a person who was organizing people for the benefit of the black people.
Well, well, the work that he did mainly up until the mid 60s was in the Nation of Islam.
And then after the assassination, you know, where he gets, you know, he gets thrown out of the organization There were a lot of other things about Malcolm that were at the beginning that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
We're going to hear a recording that talks about something like that.
The thing about Malcolm is that he was changing.
And he was changing his approach.
Instead of, you know, being perceived as a militant, all right, he was being, now he was switching to the diplomatic, you know, side, you know.
And, you know, that's really the only way, you know, that you're going to accomplish anything.
So anyway, they had these delicate behind-the-scenes negotiations to have him barred, but they had said, screw you, you know.
Watching his efforts to silence Malcolm that appear to have passed from the diplomatic to the intelligence apparatus, their efforts came closer to success.
Malcolm almost did not live to deliver his speech.
When he first arrived at Cairo, he was given accommodation aboard the Isis, a resplendent pleasure yacht moored on the Nile.
The Isis harbored freedom fighters from all the non-liberated areas of Africa, Angola, Mozambique, South Africa, Rhodesia.
When the yacht became overcrowded, Malcolm moved out and took a room at the Nile Hilton, which he shared with Milton Henry, a lawyer and civil rights activist from Detroit.
Yep.
Go ahead, Larry.
We just met.
Okay.
We got to advance this slide, Larry.
We need the next.
Yeah.
Black and trained civil rights activist, Phil Henry, accompanied Malcolm on his second African trip.
Remembers.
We were trailed wherever we went.
There was one agent especially who irritated Malcolm.
We couldn't eat without him being at the next table.
Malcolm himself observed on his return.
Throughout my trip, I was, of course, aware that I was under constant surveillance.
Henry warned Malcolm that his move to internationalize the domestic racial situation by bringing up the question at the UN could invite the most terrible retaliation.
In formulating this policy, Henry says today, in hitting the nerve center of America, he also signed his own death warrant.
Larry's frozen again, I think, Gary.
Yeah.
But it's a pretty significant moment here.
So, you know, maybe we have enough for today.
The time is about right.
Yeah.
How's your hourglass?
Oh, we just got a little bit left.
Let's see.
Let's see if we get Larry back.
We'll get Larry back for some closing words.
But I think we've probably covered the bulk of what he wanted to cover tonight.
And therefore, Yeah, I've got another question.
When they talk about the Nation of Islam, is that just an organization?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's an organization calling itself the Nation of Islam, but it doesn't have a geographical identity.
It was a legal entity.
It was a society, an association, yes.
You know, trying to figure out how a guy running around I'm talking with, you know, black folks now that ends up at the United Nations able to speak to all these countries is Gary.
He was a he was a highly intelligent, very articulate, charismatic guy, and he was one to inspire people, you know.
We have a similar case with Zendell in Canada.
Zendell was an inspirational guy.
He got people to care.
You know, this is one of the reasons Donald Trump succeeds.
He's an inspirational guy.
He gets people to care.
Malcolm X was most assuredly of that caliber, but Mohammed was not.
Go ahead and admit, Larry.
I don't see it.
I'll let him in.
Okay.
You there, Larry?
Yeah, he's got his name there.
It just says camera hasn't begun to work yet.
Here you go, Larry.
We can't hear you.
No voice.
Drop the screen share.
Drop the screen share, Larry.
He's not on screen share.
Now we can hear you.
Now we can hear you.
Oh, okay.
Now screen.
Let's see that post-hurricane internet you got over there.
Larry, we were thinking you've covered the bulk of what you wanted to cover tonight.
This may work as an intermission.
No, no, no, no.
We got the best part coming up.
Okay, okay.
Best part coming up.
Okay.
We already got the whole thing set up.
Okay.
All right, ready?
Yep.
Host, disabled, participant screen, Sherry.
Disabled.
You are the host, aren't you not?
No, when I hit screen share it says host disabled participant screen sharing.
Let me see here.
Maybe when he came back in, you had to give him permission again.
Okay.
I've reclaimed host.
Man, we got to talk about Shotgun Man.
Yes.
Let me let Larry... Screen share.
I want to make him a host.
Okay, there you go.
There you go, Larry.
I am the host.
Share sound, optimize video.
Looks like your screen.
Thank you.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
OK, you see that?
Yeah.
Yes.
OK, we read this one.
We had covered that when you were silent, so we went through.
OK, this is a soundbite.
Ready?
Yeah.
OK.
On July 23, 1964, the day before he was to deliver his speech to the Summit Conference, Malcolm dined in the Hilton's main restaurant.
Shortly after dinner, Malcolm collapsed in his hotel room, suffering from severe abdominal pains.
He was rushed to a hospital.
In an interview with the author, Milton Henry reported that he would have died if he hadn't been able to get to the hospital in a hurry.
His stomach was pumped out, cleaned out thoroughly, and that saved him.
But as Malcolm said afterwards, he would have died if he had not got immediate treatment.
Analysis of the stomach pumping disclosed a quote-unquote toxic substance.
Its nature was undisclosed, but food poisoning was ruled out.
Malcolm was hospitalized for a day and a half, but against his doctor's advice, he managed to appear at the summit conference and give a speech.
He was shaky for several days afterward.
According to Henry, Malcolm believed that someone had deliberately poisoned me.
Malcolm tried to find the waiter who had served him, but he had disappeared.
Here you go.
In discussing the incident with Henry, Malcolm stressed, quote, the fact that CIA men were all around him in Cairo, unquote.
He later told Henry that Washington had a lot to do with it.
In an interview with this author, Mrs. Ella Collins, Malcolm's sister, reported, That Malcolm told her of the poisoning incident on his return from Africa.
He told me that he felt that the CIA was definitely responsible for it.
After that, he was very careful.
In fact, on another occasion, there was an affair given in his honor in Addis Ababa.
And in observing the waiter, he got a leery feeling and refused the food.
He never had any proof, of course, but he always felt sure, somehow, that he had bypassed another poisoning.
Malcolm's poisoning in Cairo was a failure in more ways than one.
His speech won tumultuous applause, and shortly afterwards, the delegates adopted a resolution condemning U.S. racial policies.
No formal stand was taken on bringing the question before the United Nations, but Malcolm received private pledges of support for the plan from several nations.
Now, it's important to set this up because the importance of Malcolm going overseas, and he spent almost the entire 1964.
In fact, in 1964, he's gone most of the year working overseas with all these Islamic countries.
And for his troubles, June 1964, the Nation of Islam files a lawsuit to reclaim possession of his house in Queens.
You know?
Bill?
That's very bad, but of course, not surprising.
While Malcolm was traveling abroad in 1964 after being hounded by the CIA, Narrowly surviving assassination, Elijah Muhammad was kicking him and his family out of the house they lived in, filing for eviction from their Queen's Nation of Islam owned home.
Wow.
Larry's frozen again there.
I think we should Call it right here.
He was pretty keen on wanting to get a little further.
So maybe we can pause for a second.
Yeah.
Pause it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm not the one that can pause it though.
Okay.
Got it.
Ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
I know Larry back little internet.
Ready.
The Deed.
You guys ready?
Yeah.
So, go ahead, Jim.
Let's talk about the Patsies.
As seen in the assassination to the 60 Patsies, we're always fundamental to the execution.
These three dudes come to mind and do not need introduction.
Do they?
No.
Lee Oswald, remember?
Ray and Sirhan Sirhan.
Malcolm X was no different.
The two key passies were actually sentenced to life, went to jail for over 20 years, as monies went for what they were alleged to have done.
A third suspect, one Thomas Hagan, was found guilty and in the government's haste to convict.
It appears both passies were measured using the same evidence that convicted Hagan.
Hey, two for the price of one, Tim.
Nice.
yeah These gentlemen were Malcolm, former driver and bodyguard, Thomas 15X Johnson, Calheel Islam, and Norman 3X Butler, Muhammad Aziz, from Nation of Islam, Mosque No.
7 in Harlem, which happened to be the one led by Minister Malcolm X. Both were lieutenants of Mosque No. 7.
And, you know, they were no saints, you know, but in the case of Thomas Johnson, definitely and genuinely, you know, he had nothing to do with this.
Butler, on the other hand, claimed that he was not an assassin, which is true, but photos and film captured him at the scene of the crime outside the Audubon, and that's for the second part of this In the case of Thomas Hagen, a.k.a.
Talmadge Hayer, William Kunstler, a famous civil rights attorney, took up his case in the 1970s to try to reopen the Malcolm X investigation, even petitioning Congress to do that based on a key affidavit he obtained from Hagen.
In this affidavit, He very briefly laid out the entire op, naming the other four co-conspirators, Benjamin Thomas, Leon Davis, William X. Bradley, and Wilbur McKinley, all from Newark Moss 25.
In his affidavit, he declares his motive for assassinating Malcolm X, hypocrisy.
Give me a break.
Now, see the name here, William X. Bradley?
Yeah.
We're going to talk a lot about that guy.
Okay, so here is the actual affidavit, and underlined in red, he says, by the following year, Malcolm X was declared a hypocrite by the Nation of Islam.
A hypocrite, Jim!
And that's why he needs to be taken out.
I was told that Muslims should more or less be willing to fight against hypocrites, and I agreed with that.
And the second page is important because this is how he got out of the ballroom, you know, and we'll revisit that.
But the Sunday afternoon meeting at the Audubon was an OAAU affair, which meant that the usual Nation of Islam crowd would not be present, supposedly, rather a more heterogeneous mix of people from different walks of life.
Sunday, 21 February 1965.
This is a view from the rostrum, from the stage, you know, out to the ballroom.
And information here about what actually happened at the Audubon has previously been covered.
And I have to say this is, you know, obviously give Omar all the credit here by Omar Shabazz and his three-part trilogy, The Black Zapruder Trilogy, The Murder of Malcolm X.
A very well-researched and presented video analysis, which introduces actual models, which we're going to look at now, of the second floor grand ballroom as it was on the day of the assassination.
The reference to Zapruder, of course, is noted as another parallel between JFK and Malcolm X assassinations, which notes the similarity between both cases, which contain famous film footage that for decades has been studied frame by frame.
The following are model representations of the show inside the ballroom.
Omar Shabazz.
These are actual, you know, he made a miniature layout of the ballroom.
And if you look at his video on YouTube, very, very compelling.
And as you can see, you've got Malcolm X and, you know, you've got these guys here shooting at him.
And here's a side view.
All right.
Yeah, somebody actually had a—oh, that was a shotgun, huh?
Yeah, you see here an overhead frontal view, okay?
We're going to talk about, you know, how you see those chairs were supposed to be filled by his guests.
You know, Malcolm was supposed to have guests, you know, that day into the house.
Nobody there.
Exactly, you know, later on we'll... Shotgun Man, okay?
The most important revelation in recent times... Go ahead, Jimmy, you know... ...has been the identification of Al-Mustafa Shabazz, previously known as William X. Bradley of Newark Moss 25, as a coach called Shotgun Man, who executed Malcolm X with a point blank shotgun blast to the chest, as recently as 2018.
The Newark Muslim African American community lived in fear of speaking about Bradley.
Some of them even commented he was protected by the state until his death in 2018, where his involvement was a well-kept secret.
Really?
And there is a, this image is a composite representation of Shotgun Man by Oman Shabazz from his video, uh, mentioned earlier.
And, uh, The next slide is a description of Shotgun Man from an FBI document, but the original teletype is dated here at 222, and it's several pages long.
I believe about 10 or 12 pages long.
But on the sixth page, okay, we get this.
He is a Negro male, age 28, 6 feet 2, 200 pounds, heavy build.
Dark complexion, wearing a gray coat, and believed to be a sailant who used the shotgun.
Page six.
And in astonishing detail, Jim, you know, an FBI report, okay, this is included in a cable, a teletype.
And the detail of Shotgun Man is just too much, too much of a coincidence, you know, where now you're getting to see how the FBI is involved in this whole thing because they had at least nine informants.
They had at least nine of their people there, you know, during the assassination.
All right.
So this right here from the historical film, the man on the right.
And as you can see, you want to go back to the description, Negro male, age 28.
And as you can see, and look at the red arrow.
I mean, this is, I mean, exactly the exact description.
Okay.
And this, huh?
But he's on the right there, right?
Rather than the guy they're apprehending?
That's right, that's right.
And that's the point, because he's coming to the aid of the man that they're apprehending.
Because that's his, you know, that's his cohort.
So this actual image from the historical film shows Bradley exactly as described in the previous slide, outside the Audubon, in a scuffle with police and Malcolm X supporters, as he tries to come to the aid of his partner in crime, Thomas Hagen.
I mean, look at that big dude.
He's got to be hiding a gun under it.
No, that is a newspaper, and that is the reason that the arrow and everything, that is a marker that is used to identify the guy.
All right?
And Thomas Hagen had been shot in the leg by Malcolm X's bodyguard, Reuben Francis.
And this is the Black Zapruder film, and we're going to see it in a second.
This is the Audubon model outside, and this is where the sequence that we're going to look at now is filmed.
All right.
And the guy, the white figure that you see on the ground there, that is Hagen.
And you can see the other figure over him is Bradley.
William Shotgun Man Bradley, OK?
Here's a little bit of a close-up, OK?
Right here.
And the reason I've got to come back here.
Whoops.
And... Right there.
Check it out. - Oh, he's fighting.
He's throwing haymakers.
Watch him, watch him.
He's coming to the aid of his buddy.
He's trying to get his buddy out of that, which is Hagen.
And he walks away.
OK, great.
Now, in a little bit of a slow motion, now, important here that the markers on this version of the film, OK, you've got Bradley in yellow, OK, Hagen in green, Sergeant Aronoff, a guy who I'm extremely suspicious of, In blue, or anybody, you know, from the NYPD.
And Malcolm's supporter there is in purple.
Okay?
Now, Aronoff actually draws his gun and shoots a shot into the air.
Alright?
You guys following this?
And at the end, okay, it's running again, okay?
And just follow Bradley.
As you can see, he's in the middle of that scuffle, you know?
And this is the guy that just killed Malcolm X with a shotgun blast to the chest.
The guy here in yellow.
And here he is getting away.
There he goes.
There he goes.
And the NYPD knows he's getting away and lets him get away, Jim.
And that guilty cop right there.
Okay, so we're gonna we're gonna okay since we're in football season Gary.
Mm-hmm.
Let's break Let's break it with your indulgence.
I'd like to carry this over to our our sequel.
Is that all right with you?
I'm almost done Jim almost up almost up almost up.
Okay, okay Almost done We're almost at the intermission the following stills of the video just presented which showed the shotgun man William X Bradley outside the Audubon with a confrontation with the NYPD, and we're talking about the markers, yellow, green, blue, and purple.
Okay, according to Omar, Aronov happened to be driving by the Audubon at the precise moment Thomas Agen was being beaten outside by a mob of Malcolm X supporters and immediately took charge of the situation.
Okay, so as you can see here, they are surrounded and appear to be in the grasp of NYPD officers and Malcolm supporters.
Okay?
That's Bradley in yellow, Hagen in green, Aronoff in blue.
Okay?
Bradley disappears, but re-emerges here, and he finds himself trapped and comes straight at Aronoff.
In this frame, they appear to line up eyeball to eyeball, okay?
Yellow right here.
It looks like there's even some type of a recognition here, you know?
I can't help but, you know, suspect that this Aronoff had something to do with this whole thing, you know?
Bradley makes his move, okay?
Bradley nearly topples Aronoff as he plows into him like a fullback right here.
Okay, Aronoff's face becomes contorted as he clearly reacts to Bradley bowling him over as one of Malcolm X's supporters gives chase.
This guy.
Staying low, Bradley finds a hole and breaks away from Aronoff.
Boom.
Like Madden used to say, boom!
Boom!
Remember?
As Bradley gets away, an NYPD officer in blue creeps up on Malcolm's supporter, who is giving chase.
Right here.
And there goes Bradley.
He's getting away.
He's getting away.
And all of a sudden, Malcolm's supporter, who was chasing Bradley, gets clipped from behind and is restrained by one of NYPD's finest.
And here is a legal block in the back, right there.
Yes.
Okay.
There it is.
The ref called it.
Yeah.
So, Bradley straightens his overcoat, crosses in front of the camera, and calmly walks away, folded newspaper still in his pocket.
There is the assassin.
Dude, that's the assassin, man!
Yeah.
You can tell with that big—nobody has a big coat like that.
He's got a shotgun in there.
No, no, no.
He left the shotgun in at the Audubon, but that's where he had it, you know.
Concealed, you know?
Yeah, concealed.
Meanwhile, Aronoff draws his gun, fires a shot, and yells in the direction of Bradley, who has already left the scene.
And check this out.
He's going like, hold it.
Hold it.
Hold it.
Isn't that right?
Yeah.
And he, all of a sudden, he gives up on Bradley and turns his attention back to Hagen, who has finally been restrained.
And he stays with him all the way to the end.
And there you go.
Isn't that disgusting?
Man, I learned more about Malcolm X tonight than my whole life.
I mean, I'd heard his name a lot, but I hadn't done any research into Malcolm X at all.
It's amazing.
It's, you know, it's like JFK, you know... All over again.
You can start studying the film until you, you know, a hundred years and keep looking.
Good stuff, Larry.
You can see that the-- Look, that guy had the biggest coat.
It was unnecessary.
That was shotgun man.
He even confessed on his deathbed.
But that's in the second part.
Good stuff, Larry.
Good stuff.
Okay.
Well, I guess it's a good spot to call intermission.
So this has been JFK Show number 273.
All right, Larry.
Good job.
And we'll see you next week with part two.
Next week in the part two, after the intermission.
Don't forget the Harper.
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