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The Perfect Triangle #111 - 09 September 2022 - Guests: Jim Fetzer + Joe Olson

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	Welcome to the perfect, perfect triangle. - Wow.
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	And now, The Perfect Triangle.
	Welcome to Episode 111 of The Perfect Triangle.
	I'm your host, Giuseppe, and we're going to continue 9-11 week with two of the best.
	Yesterday with Dennis Camino and John Percent, we looked at A little bit of the why and the flow from JFK through 9-11 to COVID, but today we have two heavy hitters, possibly the best out there, as to the how and the what.
	And the first, and I'm honored to have him back on the show, the legendary dean of conspiracy theories, Dr. Jim Fetzer.
	And another heavy hitter, Joe Olson, retired civil engineer, who has been on Coast to Coast AM talking about his findings, as well as regularly working with Jim on the Need to Know Daily News and Analysis Show, as well as a rising star on TNT Radio.
	Welcome, gentlemen, and let's start with Jim.
	Can you believe it's 21 years and we're still having to try and wake people up?
	I know, Jesse!
	It's amazing!
	I think part of the problem has been that two of the three major efforts, the architects and engineers on the one hand, and Judy Wood and Dews on the other, refused to talk about who was responsible and why, which means that their efforts to explain how it was done, which in both instances are frankly half-assed and incomplete, they don't actually do the job.
	Are thought to be merely technical gobbledygook to most of the public because they don't understand the historical context and framework within which all this took place, which has been championed by scholars for 9-11 truth, which I founded in 2005 and which took off like a rocket in 2006.
	We had between 400 and 600 experts come together in different categories.
	Pilots, businesses, engineers, mechanical, structural, civil, electrical, aeronautical, very important.
	We really put the big picture together.
	So when I give reports about 9-11, it's like my reports about JFK or my reports about Sandy Hook.
	I'm talking about a consensus derived from bringing together a group of experts in the case of 9-11 from around the world.
	That's great, Jim.
	So, Joe Olson, welcome back.
	It's been a while.
	I'm really glad you're here and looking forward to having both you gentlemen on the roundtable tomorrow as well, along with Russ Winner.
	Dennis Camino is going to join in.
	Blackbird9 is going to be really great.
	I mean, a lot of Joe, does it blow your mind that 21 years later, we're still trying to convince many people, although I saw a recent poll where nearly 70% of Americans do not believe the official 9-1-1 story, so that's pretty good, but still, so many people do, and they're so loyal and addicted to the lying globalist media, it makes no sense to me.
	So, Joe, your thoughts on the idea that this ridiculous official narrative still is constantly being slapped in the face of every American like a wet fish?
	Yeah, I don't know if Rumpelstiltskin can be awakened or if he's in a permanent coma at this point, because I think we've reached the saturation point of people with functional gray matter, so that may be the end of the rainbow for us, but we keep trying.
	And, you know, the funny thing is, people that I started talking to this stuff 10 or 15 years ago were like, oh man, that can't be true.
	And now it's like, yep, you're 100%.
	Every conspiracy you've ever talked about is 100% true.
	And that's Global Warming, Green Energy, P-Coil, Big Bang, the Apollo mission, 9-1-1.
	It just, it seems like it's endless with the two exceptions of, yes, nuclear bombs do exist.
	We'll talk about that in a few minutes.
	And the earth is not flat.
	But other than that, every other conspiracy I've found has been 100% true.
	You know, that's pretty crazy that there's so much disinformation going on.
	So let's start with you, Jim.
	I mean, where is it?
	I have it right here.
	This excellent book, America Nuked on 9-11.
	So why don't you give us the overview of how you see September 11, 2001 occurring?
	Well, Joe's so brilliant on the mode of destruction of the World Trade Center, I think what I ought to do is give the big picture about the politics of the situation, which ties right in with the planes, because it turns out that the whole thing has been a scam from beginning to end.
	Virtually everything we've been told about 9-11 by our government, Is provably false.
	Remember, we're told this was committed by 19 Islamic terrorists who commandeered four commercial airliners and perpetrated these atrocities under the control of a guy off in a cave in Afghanistan.
	Well, that guy, Osama Bin Laden, was actually our man in Afghanistan.
	He was instrumental in getting Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen, which they used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and planes that drive them out of that godforsaken region.
	He was actually an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
	He was visited by an official of the agency in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death in Afghanistan on 15 December 2001.
	Get that date, 2001.
	December 2001, get that date, 2001, 15 December, was the date of the death of Osama bin Laden, where there were local obituaries.
	He was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
	By the 26th, both Fox and CNN had caught up with the facts of the matter and reported that Osama bin Laden was dead.
	David Ray Griffin would eventually write a whole book about it, Osama bin Laden Dead or Alive.
	But the Obama administration saw fit to resuscitate him and have him die again in a staged raid on a compound in Pakistan.
	None of the locals had ever seen Osama because, of course, he was not on this earth.
	But by doing so, Obama positioned himself for a triumphal re-election, claiming to have taken out the most wanted man in the world.
	It was all staged, all fabricated.
	They did phony set-ups in the White House where they're supposed to be looking at a large screen TV, got their President, Vice President, Secretary of State.
	But Leon Panetta, who was then the director of the CI, blew their cover by observing that there had been no live coverage of the raid for the first 20-25 minutes, when the entire sequence of the raid only endured 20 or 25 minutes, meaning there was no live coverage, it was all phony and fake as And Barack Obama and Michelle turn out to be, I mean, it's outrageous what took place here, Giuseppe.
	And the idea that these 19 Islamic hijackers that commandeered these four commercial airliners is similarly a myth.
	It turns out five or six of these guys turned up alive and well and made contact with the British media the following day.
	Now, it's not rocket science to deduce And if they're alive and well the following day, they didn't die in suicide plane crashes on 9-11.
	And indeed, It turns out, and I'm giving you the reports of, you know, distilled research, two of those planes, flight 11, North Tower, and 77, the Pentagon, weren't even in the air that day, whereas the other two, flights 93, Shanksville, and 175, the South Tower, were still in the air after they'd officially Crash in Shanksville or hit the South Tower.
	Indeed, Pilots for 9-11 Truth tracked the Flight 93 and found it was over Champaign-Urbana-Illinois after it officially crashed.
	And they also tracked 175 in Batu Isobra, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, after it officially hit the South Tower, where I dug into the FAA registration records and discovered the physical planes that were used for those two flights.
	We're not formally taken out of service or deregistered until 28 September 2005.
	So how can planes that weren't even in the air crash on 9-11?
	And how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
	It was an elaborate fantasy.
	The media went whole hog and the American government was deeply involved in this massive deception on the American people, Giuseppe.
	Well stated, Professor.
	And on the screen, for those of you listening on radio, if you go to moonrockbooks.com, and Jim has a very effective collaborative process where he edits with others, and he recruits PhD-level academians and investigative journalists and such to put together chapters, and then he weaves the narrative together.
	And the book That really lays this out just brilliantly.
	It's called America Nuked on 9-11 at moonrockbooks.com and you co-edited that with Mike Palachuk and it's all right there, Jim.
	And what's crazy is that over the ensuing couple decades since the
	Egregious attack by Israel on America via 9-11, facilitated by dual citizen traders, and traders like Donkey Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld within the highest level of government that allowed this to happen, just so happened to have the military games and initiatives the same day, so the jets could be sent way over the Atlantic and couldn't intercept and blah blah blah.
	But it's amazing to me, and Joe Olson, your thoughts.
	Joe, I muted you because we were hearing some background noise.
	But Joe, what are your thoughts on what Jim laid out, which is exactly pretty much how it went.
	Yeah, Joe, I muted you.
	You have to unmute, Joe.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you were going to unmute me as well as mute me, but I have to do some of this stuff myself.
	Yeah, I don't know what the extra noise could be, but I can, let's see.
	Any better there?
	Yep, it's good now.
	Okay, yeah, it's my air conditioner fan motor.
	Yeah, I'm a serious student of history.
	One of the books I read was Puppet Master and the Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover by Richard Hack.
	Published 2004, 800 pages.
	You won't believe what a rotten traitor that SOB was.
	And I guarantee you the same agency that he created to be a rotten extortion and blackmail operation was in operation on 9-1-1.
	Proof of that was that Prior to 9-1-1, we had four flight schools in the United States report anomalies with Arab students coming and taking lessons, and the local FBI offices declined to do any investigations of those.
	One of those was in Oklahoma City, where they had a student that was so bad, they finally said, look, don't even come back for dual instruction.
	You're never going to solo here.
	So he moved up to Minneapolis.
	He was in Minneapolis for several months, and he went to a place called Pan Am Flight School, which was no connection with the original Pan Am Airlines, but they did have 747 flight simulators.
	He went in and said, I want to learn how to fly a 747.
	They said, okay, well, first thing you need to do is Show us your logbook, and then you need to apply for student loans.
	They looked at his logbook.
	He had 60 hours of dual instruction in a Cessna 150, and he never soloed.
	They said, well, I'm sorry, you're not going to be able to qualify for student loans.
	And he said, well, how about if I just pay cash?
	They said, well, it's $200 an hour, and it's a minimum of 25 hours.
	And he said, okay, pulled out $5,000 cash.
	They contacted the Minneapolis FBI office on August 16, 2001.
	FBI agents pulled up a background check on him.
	The guy had been overstaying a foreign visa, had no Uh, recordable means of income for the whole time that he'd been in the United States, several years.
	This guy's name was, uh, Zacharias Massari.
	They went and arrested him, and the local FBI office told them, do not interrogate him and do not open his laptop.
	The lead investigator on that was an FBI officer named Harry Samet, S-A-M-I-T.
	He was so pissed that he wrote a 26-page affidavit of evidence against this guy, and he said, I'm going to go over your head.
	I'm going to do something that is never done in the FBI.
	He got the email addresses for 50 different people at the headquarters in Washington, D.C., sent it to them on August 18th.
	Well, on September 7th, Robert Mueller was sworn in as head of the FBI.
	And then one week later, the towers just magically fell.
	And that SOB never bothered to investigate anything that could have been done to prevent that.
	So that's just the lead-up story to this.
	Go ahead.
	Well, Joe, you want to bear in mind these guys were just a patsy, so they didn't want to do anything.
	They wanted to give it publicity because they had nothing to do with 9-11.
	In fact, the list of the perps was discovered in luggage that Muhammad Atta had allegedly left behind at Logan when he, you know, flew to try to commandeer one of these aircraft.
	All 19 listed.
	I mean, it's about as absurd as it gets, even though we know Yeah, you want to... Good joke.
	Even though we know a half a dozen or more of these guys turned up alive and well the following day, and Mohammed, on his father, reported getting a phone call from his son saying he'd had nothing to do with it, but he was terrified he was going to be murdered, the FBI has made no revision whatsoever.
	They still claim the same list of 19 were responsible, when it's obvious they had nothing to do with it.
	I mean, think about it.
	If none of those planes crashed on 9-11, which is provable, then no passengers aboard any of those planes died, no Islamic terrorists were responsible for these atrocities, and there was no justification for the war on terror.
	So what you're really talking about, Joe, is the FBI playing along by setting up these guys to be patsies, including Moussaoui, Who indeed was put on trial.
	I was actually there in Virginia outside the courthouse with other experts on 9-11 when the trial was taking place.
	It was a farce, but the point I'm making is the whole thing with these Islamic guys, including Moussaoui, was to distract the public and make them think that Islamic terrorists had something to do with it when it was the opposite.
	Actually, It was brought about by the CIA, the neocons, the Department of Defense, and the Mossad with a brain trust who had come up with a plan, the master plan, where two PMs of Israel, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert in the 1980s, who envisioned taking down the Twin Towers to be a justification Blaming it on Arabs so the U.S.
	would move aggressively into the Middle East and take out the modern Arab states.
	That served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
	That was the rationale for the entire plan.
	And they carried it off virtually without a hitch.
	Until Russia and Iran intervene on behalf of Syria at the request of Bashar al-Assad, the democratically elected president of Syria, and put a halt to it, we still have Israel performing attacks in Syria.
	They have threatened Iran.
	Iran has responded that if they continue to attack their nuclear scientists or their facilities, which are dedicated to the peaceful use of atomic energy, that Iran will retaliate on Israel.
	And even though Iran does not have nuclear weapons, I have no doubt that Iran has a capacity to completely wipe Israel off the face of the map.
	So since Russia now has reinforcer anti-aircraft batteries and they have the best in the world, I think these Israeli strikes in Syria are very likely to come to an end.
	And I do declare, I believe you can believe Iran, Which is the most peace-loving great nation in the world, having not launched a war of aggression against any other state since 1775.
	We're going to put that in perspective for Americans.
	The ratification of the Constitution began in 1778.
	George Washington was elected our first president in 1779.
	We're longer than the United States has existed as a constitutional republic.
	Iran has not launched a war of aggression against any other state, a record I only wish we ourselves had achieved, at least to some degree.
	So, just bear in mind, all this FBI was setting up the patsies to take responsibility.
	Oh, what a great point.
	Go ahead, Joe.
	Okay, some more background on the FBI.
	I also read The Very Best Men by Evan Thomas, which was written in 1995, given a lot of the original stories about the creation of the CIA and all the horrible things that they did.
	And then I read David Talbott's book, The Devil's Chessboard, which was published in 2016, which gave some more information.
	But relevant to what we're discussing today is something that I just recently found, and I sent it to Jim.
	I don't know if you've had a chance to review it yet, but it's written by a guy named Timothy Silver.
	It's called Lifting the Veil.
	Uh, and it's a website called wanttoknow.info slash mk slash lifting the veil and he has the first chapter is on the phony baloney war on terror and it's a riveting chapter with at least 25 footnotes.
	And I haven't finished reading the whole thing, but if you want to avoid spending the cost or you don't want to enrich Amazon, here's an excellent way where you can bring yourself up to speed with what a rotten, horrible organization the CIA has been since 1947.
	So, and we don't need to spend a whole lot more time on the history of that organization.
	We can sort of move along to what actually happened on 9-1-1 if you're ready.
	Absolutely.
	Now, the official narrative is somehow...
	these nineteen wahhabi uh... muslim angry terrorists managed to get on these planes somehow uh... with just box cutters get into the cockpit which is absolutely ridiculous and then with uh... basically no training make precision moves that even the most skilled pilots could not do and especially in the case of uh...
	Of attacking the Pentagon, breaking the laws of physics, and yet we're supposed to believe all this.
	So, first Jim, and then Joe, take it from there.
	What really happened?
	Well, the fact is that in Shanksville, both the reporters on the scene said there was no theory aspect of the crash site, because there was no evidence any plane had crashed there.
	The hole in the ground was only about 10 by 20.
	I had a former Air Force crash investigator, George Nelson, tell me it looked to him as though someone had taken a bulldozer out there, filled it with trash and blown it up.
	A plane had a wingspan, this is a 757, a wingspan of 125 feet, a tail that stood 40 feet above the ground.
	There's no possible way it could have disappeared into a hole about 15 by 20.
	So the whole thing is utter nonsense.
	Some apologists for the government want to maintain that this is an area where mining had taken place and that the plane had disappeared into an abandoned mine shaft.
	I mean, that's ludicrous on its face, but we know what to do with miners who are trapped in mines.
	We break out the bright lights and the heavy equipment and dig 24-7 in the hope by some miracle someone might have survived.
	Well, even though there were 45 souls on board that plane, ostensibly, No bright lights, no heavy equipment, no effort to recover the plane or the passengers was undertaken.
	Indeed, the whole thing was just an embarrassing sham.
	They tried to fake parts of it with a photograph that showed a puff of smoke over what was supposed to be the crash location, but when you verify the geography, it was actually over a pool, not where the plane was supposed to have crashed.
	And the smoke was like that you'd see from a Detonation, not from a plane crash, would tend to be black, billowing smoke.
	If you compare Shanksville with any real bonafide plane crash, as you see, there's no resemblance whatsoever.
	And I'll say a few words about the Pentagon, too, and then bring Joe in.
	The Pentagon, they actually had a plane fly toward the Pentagon.
	In fact, Norman Mineta, the Secretary of Transportation, was in a bunker beneath the White House with Dick Cheney.
	And he reported this to the 9-11 Commission, but they didn't understand its significance, telling him, sir, it's 50 miles out, sir, it's 40 miles out, sir, it's 30 miles out.
	Did the order still stand?
	And Cheney whipped around and said, of course the order still stands.
	Have you heard anything to the contrary?
	Well, the order had to be to not shoot down the plane.
	I mean, if these aircraft are being used as weapons and the obvious thing to do is to shoot down the plane, you lose the plane and the passengers, but not the personnel and the Property of the target!
	The plane was flying toward the Pentagon!
	Now, a group called Investigative Research Team discovered there were witnesses at a SIPCO station that reported seeing this plane approach to the left of the SIPCO station when, according to the official trajectory, it ought to have been approaching from the right.
	The plane flew toward the building and then swerved over it as an explosion took place in front of the Pentagon.
	And in fact, A friend of mine had a trucker buddy who was in front of the Pentagon at the time, coincidentally, and watched as the plane flew over the building.
	My friend was puzzled because he still, even though he watched the plane fly over the building, was convinced the plane had hit the Pentagon.
	Well, Dennis was especially brilliant at tracking down And it had been a global hawk that had been used for this operation.
	It fired a missile into the West Wing.
	In fact, the official trajectory of a Boeing 757 barely skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour isn't even aerodynamically possible, just sadly.
	It turns out, as an aeronautical engineer explained to me by virtue of the phenomenon known as downdraft, that plane at that speed could not have got closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground.
	80 feet is higher than the Pentagon at 71 feet is tall.
	So everything we've been told about the Pentagon is complete bullshit.
	There was no debris on the ground until way later, about 45 minutes after the initial hit.
	We had two lime green civilian fire trucks extinguishing the very modest fires, and you can see the lawn is perfectly clear.
	BBC came here to my home, interviewed me for eight hours, And then use seven and a half minutes out of that eight hours where I explained that when the debris began to show up, it appeared to me it had been dropped from a C-130 that was circling the building, which included a piece from a fuselage of a 757, but...
	It wasn't all crumpled as you'd expect from a violent crash.
	It showed no signs of having been exposed to intense fire and entangled in the piece of fuselage was a section of vine not indigenous to the Arlington Virginia area where a retired lawyer by the name of James Hansen
	Track back this piece of fuselage to a crash near Cali, Colombia in 1995, where the pilots lost track, went through jungles where these mines are in abundance, and crashed into the sign of a mountain where an Israeli salvage firm recovered.
	And they obviously kept this piece so they could put it on the Pentagon lawn on a suitable occasion.
	I mean, it's just amazing what we know now.
	So of that Of that eight hours they interviewed me, I gave them probably a hundred arguments that were very substantial of how we knew what happened on 9-11, who was responsible, and why.
	They used only the seven and a half minutes, which they combined with three minutes from Dylan Avery, who created loose change, who was supposed to be the snot-nosed kids, four minutes of Alex Jones, who was supposed to be the messianic creature, and then seven and a half of me, the kooky professor, and then followed by 45 minutes Discussing why anyone would believe these absurd theories.
	Well, Jim, you know, one of the rarest things was an actual journalist at CNN, and there was a fellow who went from WTOP 1500 news radio in Washington DC to CNN and was one of the first on the scene.
	And so Jamie McIntyre, he was there.
	He's a real journalist.
	And let's listen to what he says.
	... of how much of the plane actually impacted the building.
	You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	The only site is the actual side of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left...
	That you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand.
	There are no large tail sections, wing sections, a fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
	Now, even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon, you see that the floors have all collapsed.
	That didn't happen immediately.
	It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
	Well, what's interesting, gentlemen, and I can validate more of what you're saying, Jim, is in the years that followed, it turns out I was a neighbor with a retired Air Force colonel who wasn't retired at the time, he was involved in logistics, and the Air Force had a bunch of office space across the GW Parkway on the Maryland side, right by that Hyatt Hotel that's right there, and he and a lieutenant colonel were there working, and they saw a plane come over
	And planes never came that way.
	So that was like the distractive plane.
	And then somehow that Global Hawk missile was launched as well.
	And that plane, which was outside of the regular flight patterns, was the deception, correct?
	And then...
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Yes, it was supposed to make people think a real plane at the Pentagon.
	We had a whole lot of evidence that didn't happen.
	And Dennis is particularly brilliant on this, so if we have it back tomorrow, we'll be sure to pursue it.
	But he was the one who figured out that it had been a global hawk that had fired the missile.
	And, I mean, the amount of research we've done on this is staggering, Giuseppe.
	Jamie McIntyre, with pressure to take it back.
	So he went on the air and said, Only a fool would believe that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, meaning he knew he'd been a fool to think that his bosses at CNN wanted him to report the truth, and he was tired of carrying the heavy water, the bullshit for the channel, and he retired.
	But he was by far their best reporter, bar none.
	Yeah, without a doubt.
	So Joe, your investigations lead you to believe what occurred there with the Pentagon.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	First of all, I'm a trained structural engineer.
	I took every one of the courses necessary to be a structural engineer as a civil engineer, but it's all part of the same package.
	And civil engineering also includes airports, dams, highways, bridges, so it's a broad field.
	And just because you learn how buildings are built doesn't mean that that's the only profession you can go into.
	So I didn't apprentice with very many structural engineers.
	I did with a couple, but not enough that I decided to use that as my main focus of my work.
	But I have been an engineer on record in projects in Hundreds of multi-story buildings in 20 different states.
	I've been a registered engineer in Texas for 38 years, so I understand exactly how the buildings were built, and I understand exactly what it takes to take one down.
	So that's item number one.
	Item number two, they said everybody remembers where you were on 9-1-1.
	Well, I was sitting in my office that Tuesday morning, and I almost never turn on Good morning America!
	I mean like once or twice a month and then I just had this urge to turn on the TV that morning it's like I wonder what the news is today so I turned it on and they said a plane has just hit the North Tower and it's like god this is really weird And they said, yeah, here's pictures of the damage to the face of the building.
	And what we think is a small plane flew into the building.
	Well, based on the size of the hole and the fact that there was no debris outside of the building, it was like, okay, that's believable.
	And then as I'm watching it, another plane, and I call several of my friends.
	I said, man, a plane has hit the Twin Towers.
	And so I'm sitting there watching it.
	Then a plane hits the South Tower.
	And a few minutes later, the top of the South Tower leans over 20 degrees.
	And I'm a trained structural engineer.
	I looked at it and I said, well, you're going to have compression on the leaning side.
	You're going to have tension on the side where it's leaning away from.
	And so eventually the tension on that side is going to give way and the top 20 stories of the building is going to flop over and hit the other and then it's going to break and fall down.
	And so that would be the extent of the damage that you could have from that amount But there's no way you could overcome the gravity.
	And then, to my surprise, as the building starts to collapse, the 20-degree lean angle pulls back up straight, and the whole thing falls down in its own shadow in 14 seconds.
	And I said, this was not a plane crash.
	This was some form of controlled demolition.
	So, from the moment that it happened, I was skeptical of it.
	Two days after it happened, the American Society of Civil Engineers had a clown that produced an article that was in the Journal of Engineering and Mechanics, which is one of their publications, and he explained how the buildings just simultaneously collapsed.
	Both of them had the same problem.
	He neglected to mention anything about Building 7.
	We'll get to that in a minute.
	But anyhow, so I immediately was suspect of why in the hell it only took two days for the ASCE to analyze something without any field evidence at all because the ruins were still smoldering, and they were sealed off.
	There was no way he could have had accurate information and then it was like six months later they released the FEMA report, and the FEMA report was equally as bogus, and I read it, and then they released the 9-1-1 Commission report.
	A friend of mine, because I was skeptical, said, you need to read this.
	She bought me a 500-page copy of it.
	I thumbed through it.
	I had already read stuff from people that had been on the Commission that said it was completely bogus and rigged.
	I don't remember who they were, but that's not important.
	And then I knew that one of the people that was on it on that commission was Jamie Gorlick.
	Who was the assistant AG that put the firewall between the CIA and the FBI, limiting the ability of them to be able to discover this.
	And it was just like, well, who could have guessed that this would have happened?
	Yeah, she was doing the same thing for the 9-1-1 Commission that Dulles was doing for the Warren Commission.
	So I knew it was all total BS.
	And then As fate would have it, there was a roof leak and I ended up losing that book because it got completely wet, but it was garbage anyway.
	So moving along, then they did the NIST, which is National Institute of Standards and Technology, and we'll get a little bit more depth on that as we go through the program today.
	Bottom line is I've been very well aware of how the buildings were built and very well aware of how the buildings were destroyed and then in 2009 there was a DVD premiere in Austin, Texas.
	A four-hour long press conference with a 90-minute DVD presentation by Richard Gage and Alex Jones.
	And so I drove to Austin.
	I got there an hour before the program.
	I saw the side-by-side videos of the Twin Towers as they collapsed with a split screen of a known controlled demolition falling at exactly the same speed where you had control conditions this is what a control demolition looks like and this is what 9-1-1 looks like they had copies of the new york city stamp signed and sealed structural plans
	i reviewed the plans for the twin towers because the buildings were virtually the same and building seven and i said no way these three structures came down that way it's absolute bullshit and then i listened to richard gage talk about thermite which we'll get to in just a minute but bottom line is i knew it was controlled demolition number one number two i knew that richard gage could not be trusted to tell you the truth and would not be open to debate and that's where we are 21 years later
	well let me add a few thoughts uh on 9-11 um We received a phone call from a daughter living in Bradenton, Florida.
	It had to turn on the TV, and we saw the North Tower smoking.
	And it was black smoke, which meant it was an oxygen-deprived fire.
	And then the explosion at the South Tower.
	We were told they collapsed.
	I looked at what was going on there and said to myself, and I remember this so clearly, this isn't even physically possible.
	But when will I ever be in a position to do anything about it?
	Well, ironically, in December of 2005, I was in the midst of a discussion thread with very sophisticated individuals, about two dozen around the world, and it occurred to me Perhaps creating a loose affiliation of society would bring together experts from around the world.
	We could have a website.
	We could promote lectures.
	We could post videos and the like.
	And I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth, which, as I mentioned earlier, took off like a rocket.
	Well, when Alex Jones had his American Scholars Conference in Los Angeles in June of 2006, He invited me to be the keynote speaker, and the four participants in a panel discussion, which was recorded by C-SPAN and then broadcast seven or eight times in good time slots, were all members of Scholar, Stephen Jones, who was a physicist from BYU, whom I'd invited to be my co-chair, Bob Bauman, who had been a
	Had a PhD in nuclear engineering from Caltech and had been the Star Wars advisors to Reagan and Ford.
	Webster Tarpley had published 9-11, Synthetic Terror Made in the USA, and myself as a founder of Scholars who I gave the top 10 reasons we know the hijackers were fake.
	It was very successful.
	So that, you know, continuing on with the study, we knew that something was terribly wrong.
	Now, early on, it occurred to me to compare the Building 7 with the Twin Towers, with these fundamental differences.
	With Building 7, all the floors are coming down at the same time.
	It comes down at about the speed of freefall, and it's a classic controlled demolition.
	You got a little kink at the top.
	You can see, actually, the explosion taking place, removing all the support columns.
	With the Twin Towers, however, it was different.
	What we witnessed was blowing apart in every direction from the top down.
	All the floors were remaining stationary.
	They were not in motion.
	Waiting their turn to be blown to kingdom come, in the memorable phrase of Morgan Reynolds, the buildings were being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, and when it was over, there was no stack of debris.
	I had Father Frank Morales from St.
	Mark's Episcopal Church, a first responder on my radio shows, then twice, and both times he emphasized how the Twin Towers were destroyed to or even slightly below ground level, unlike Building 7, Where we had the classic result of a controlled demolition about debris pile about 12% of the height of the original 47 floors or five and a half floors.
	Had it been a controlled demolition, and I think what Joe meant to say was a demolition under control rather than a controlled demolition, you would have had to have had 12% of 110 floors, or 13 1⁄2 floors of debris, they were not there.
	And we even have photographs where you can see the difference between the absence of any debris pile for Building 1, the North Tower, and the 5 1⁄2 floors of debris for Building 7 in the background.
	It was a striking difference, meaning they were brought down in completely different ways.
	Wow, fascinating Jim.
	So now, do you guys want to get into the various theories or do we want to continue with looking at how it all happened?
	The various theories being thermite versus directed energy weapons versus controlled explosions and Really, really, really mini-nukes.
	This is where Joe has done completely brilliant work on the use of mini-nukes.
	Let me talk about the other two.
	Architects and Engineers Which, like Judy Wood and her Do group, refuse to talk about who is responsible and why, and then offer really hopelessly inadequate theories of how it was done, which insists we have to know before we can address who is responsible and why, which is just silly.
	We actually can chew gum and walk at the same time.
	What we have from architects and engineers is an emphasis on nanothermite now.
	There were some residues of nanothermite on the scene, that's true.
	And there were some beams that were caught, that appeared to have been caught using thermite, if not nanothermite, that's true.
	But!
	The fact is, nanothermite is very weak as an explosive.
	It's only one-thirteenth the power of TNT, which is a universal standard.
	And, what you have to understand is, to destroy concrete, an explosive must have a detonation velocity of 2,300 meters per second or more.
	To destroy steel, an explosive must have a detonation velocity of 6,100 meters or more.
	But the highest attributed detonation velocity for nanothermite in the scientific literature is only 895 meters per second, meaning you can't do it.
	It's not powerful enough even for concrete, much less steel.
	Or Niels Herrick, one of the proponents of nanothermite, who's Associate Professor of Chemistry Emeritus at the University of Copenhagen, when asked to estimate how much nanothermite it would have taken To blow apart a Twin Tower said 29,000 metric tons.
	I mean, this is like filling the buildings with circus peanuts, Giuseppe.
	I mean, it's just completely absurd.
	And that's because it's so weak.
	I mean, it would be silly in the extreme.
	And it turns out that Because of the aluminum colliding on the building and the way it interacts with steel, that you get residue that was of the nature of these nanothermite particles.
	That would be a natural residue from the destruction of the building by another means.
	There's more to it, but those are key points.
	Now, with regard to Judy Wood and Dews, it's a much better theory than nanothermite, because Dews might at least have the explosive capacity to perform these feeds.
	But we have multiple contraindications.
	For example, there was a 300-ton steel assembly that was projected upward and outward at a 45-degree angle and wound up in the Winter Garden 600 feet away.
	That could not have been a result of the use of directed energy weapons.
	Plus, the U.S.
	Geological Survey conducted dust studies at 35 locations in lower Manhattan and found a host of elements that would not have been present had this not been a nuclear event.
	Barium, strontium, lithium, latvium, tritium, many of which only exist in radioactive form.
	It was when Judy, after I confronted her in a review of her book on Amazon.com, refused to adjust her conclusions to the new evidence that I knew she'd abandon science because it's a necessity.
	In scientific investigations specifically, but in rational inquiry generally, that when you get new evidence or alternative hypotheses, you have to adjust your beliefs accordingly, reject hypotheses you previously accepted, accept hypotheses you previously rejected.
	Judy didn't do that.
	And in response to my putting up a review, I actually revised because I put up an initial five-star review, but said I thought she'd been successful in discounting large nukes, but not many nukes.
	In fact, I had 2,000 attacks by members, supporters of Judy Wood.
	I'd invited her to participate in the Vancouver hearings, which were held in June of 2012.
	When I returned and found all those attacks, I'd been presented with a whole lot of additional evidence.
	by Jeff Prager and Don Fox and others about the use of nukes on 9-11.
	So I really had no doubt about it.
	So I qualified and pointed out the results of the U.S. Geological Survey and downloaded my review from five stars to three.
	Giuseppe, would you believe I was astonished?
	There were over 7,000 attacks on my review.
	This is not on her book.
	This is on my review.
	I believe this is when Amazon began no longer allowing the policy of comments on reviews because it was just staggering.
	They had created a cult around Judy Wood.
	They had a sacred text.
	Where did the towers go?
	They had a spiritual, virtually mystical leader in Judy Wood, and they had a Praetorian guard, a fellow named Thomas Potter, another named Andrew Johnson in the UK, and a host of others who would savagely attack anyone who questioned Judy Wood, even to the least degree.
	And mind you, I'd invited Judy onto my radio shows already in November of 2006.
	November 11th specifically was the first of 15 interviews I did with her, Giuseppe.
	And I was pioneering interaction between the computer and the radio.
	So we would go to her website online and talk about the study she had, 15 times I did this.
	And yet Judy would turn on me after she featured John Hutchison, who claimed to have levitated steel in his garage, which I thought was a pretty bizarre claim.
	So I simply asked, since this is in the area of electromagnetism, among the most complex in physics, what was his background?
	And he simply dismissed by saying he flaunt crayons and coloring books, which Judy thought was hilarious, but was obviously non-responsive.
	And after that 15th interview I had with her, she would not reply to emails, respond to phone calls.
	I invited her to speak at the Vancouver hearing.
	She actually talked Hutchison, who'd agreed, and another physicist who'd agreed to speak.
	She talked him out of coming because I wanted all points of view to be represented there.
	In my opinion, Judy Woodcash in her credentials has assigned us right around June of 2012.
	Well that's amazing Jim and I'd like to ask both you and Joe in researching to see if I could come up with anything new this week leading up to our series of shows on 9-11.
	I heard an interview and actually it was a phone in after the interview and a gentleman and I haven't had time to research it but I don't know if you guys I don't have any knowledge about this.
	The caller claimed that the reality is the technology at that time, there was no energy source powerful enough to have a directed energy weapon be able to handle something as large as the Twin Towers and do the damage that these people are claiming could be done.
	Have either of you come across that, that they did not have a viable energy source to even do it?
	Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me.
	Let me give you a clue here.
	I was attacked by this Thomas Potter for being critical of Judy in this mild way I've described here.
	Not wholesale.
	I thought she was doing far more responsible research than architects and engineers.
	That the directed energy device theory was far more plausible and consistent with the evidence than the nanothermite theory.
	When I got this attack, it was a group list.
	So I responded to the attack and did a reply-all.
	One of them bounced.
	It was from the ADL.
	I believe that the Israelis were sponsoring both architects and engineers, and Judy wouldn't agree.
	There was a fraction of confusion among the public as to what had really happened.
	To me, that was extremely revealing.
	Oh intensely.
	Joe, your thoughts on the possibility that they didn't even have enough of an energy source to have the directed energy weapon be powerful enough to take care of the Twin Towers the way they came down.
	Well, they did have the energy source, and it's called a plasma bunker buster bomb, and it was placed in the bottom of elevator shaft number 50.
	But we're getting ahead of ourselves for a second.
	Yeah, my additional research included nuclear weapons employment doctrine.
	Field Manual No.
	101-31, which was declassified March 1977 on the US use of tactical nukes, which was our 155mm artillery shells and our W54 bazooka shells, which they realized that if you put them in the field theater,
	In regards with other weapons that they will set off just because of the stray gamma rays they will set off the other bombs and so it made it where it was impractical to ever deploy nuclear weapons for more than just a one-off event.
	So that was 1977 it was declassified which meant they'd done plenty of experiments on it up till then and they knew exactly what the problem was.
	Then I also read Ground Zero, Nuclear Demolition of the World Trade Center by William Thayil, published 2206.
	And then Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons by Andre Gosper, G-S-P-O-N-E-R, which was printed in February 2008.
	I had reviewed a bunch of Judy Wood's material I'd heard Probably not every one of the 15 that Fetzer had because I realized she was a phony before then.
	But I did hear her on Coast to Coast, and I did hear her interviewed on InfoWars, and I did spend about a week on her website reading everything that was on her website.
	And I had 10 questions for Judy, so I called her up and I said, look, I'm a trained structural engineer.
	You have a PhD in mechanical engineering with an emphasis on materials, which is, you know, an important thing for structural engineers.
	I've got several questions that I would like to get your answers on.
	And she said, have you bought my book?
	And I said, no, but you know, if you can answer my questions satisfactorily, I will buy a copy of the book.
	Until then, I have too many questions to buy your book.
	She goes, I'm not answering any questions until you buy my book.
	And it's like, well, you're not in the business of sharing truth.
	You're in the business of selling books.
	And I'm not in the business of, you know, supporting false profits.
	So I'm not going to buy your book.
	And I can prove 100% you're wrong.
	So fast forward.
	May of 2014 Veterans Today starts running articles on what they classified on their website as nuclear education and this was a series of articles and by March 15th of
	They had produced about two dozen of those articles and I'm a number one I'm a trained structural engineer number two I've spent an enormous amount of time studying natural radiation because it's one of the forces that causes volcanism and causes climate change so I've been heavily involved in researching that and then also because I'm an engineer and it's important to know I had spent a lot of time studying nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons
	So, but when these articles started coming out at Veterans Today, they included concepts that I was not familiar with.
	So even though the articles were probably only average 2,000 word articles, it would take me a couple of hours to go through and vet everything so I could be completely understanding of what they were saying.
	Finally, by March of that year, I said, man, I am ready to break cover and make my first public disclosure on what really happened to the World Trade Center buildings.
	So I contacted one of the editors at Veterans Today, a guy named Dr. James Fetzer, and I said, James, I'm ready to break cover.
	I'm a structural engineer.
	I can help put the pieces together on what happened on 9-1-1.
	On March 16th, we did a two-hour YouTube video.
	Which was up for several years and then we did another couple of interviews with a guy named Steve Dieck and that's probably not his real name but it's like the way it's spelled is D E apostrophe A K and he had a hypothesis that the buildings were made out of a cardboard and sheet rock and that's why they fell
	Which was completely bogus, and we tore him apart, but he did bring forward some really critical information, and that was that the two holes that appeared in the side of the building were complete panels that had been blown out, and the only way they could be blown out is if they had been cut loose from the rest of the structure.
	And we'll get to that in just a second.
	The exterior of the building was what's called a Van der Wiel truss system.
	It's a square truss instead of the normal triangulated trusses that you're familiar with in engineering.
	And so that's what made the strength of the exterior of the building.
	It was load-bearing and it was also wind load resistant.
	The buildings are designed to stand 120 mile an hour wind loads.
	They were 208 feet on a side, 1350 feet tall, over five acres of wall area that was subject to 120 mile an hour wind loads.
	They had five hurricanes that hit it.
	They didn't break a pane of glass.
	So the buildings were not made out of cardboard.
	I've had to sign off as engineer inspection on construction draws on numerous projects where I was the engineer of record.
	And we go out and we pour concrete test samples, and we test them to make sure the concrete has the proper strength at the end of 28 days.
	We certify the steel that's going into the building.
	These buildings were built with steel plates at a boatyard on the other side of the Hudson, shipped across on a barge, and swung in with cranes.
	And the panels on the exterior walls We're three stories tall and they were three vertical panels wide.
	They had a spandrel section that was 52 inch high plate steel that was two inches thick and those plate steel spandrel sections were splice bolted together
	In bolted top and bottom and then welded to bar joists and I'll show you some diagrams of that in just a second but bottom line is Steve said that that it and he showed a photo of one of them laying beside the Saint John Trinity Orthodox Church where the panel was complete intact except that there were scoops in the middle of the spandrel sections which indicated
	Place charges blowing them out and there were no shears around the end bolts or the splice bolts which means that all of those bolts had been pre-cut as well as all the connections to the bar joists so those things are just sitting in place waiting to be blown out to create the roadrunner image of two holes in the side of the building where ostensibly well here's where the engines went in look at those great big holes
	Absolutely freaking joke and he just recently released a 15-minute video which shows the sideways shear across the face of the box columns with the torn out aluminum and that indicates that it was hit from a side impact of a cruise missile absolutely 100% with a holographic projection of whatever it was in the way of an airline Or maybe it was just CGI.
	So, bottom line is, that's another powerful piece of evidence.
	But, backing up a little bit further, Jim said that it was 2,300 meters per second.
	He's got dyslexia just like me.
	It's actually, but I wrote it down so I got it correct.
	It's actually 3,200 meters per second for concrete.
	Now, additional factors.
	Steel melts at 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit.
	Steel vaporizes at 5,180 degrees Fahrenheit.
	The highest temperature available from thermite is 4,000 degrees, so it can melt steel, but it cannot vaporize steel.
	Ah, interesting.
	Yeah.
	Joe, let me interject for a second.
	We're coming up to the top of the hour and the great Jim Fetzer must leave after one hour.
	He's got a previous commitment.
	So Jim, you've got a new website, jamesh, as in herofetzer.org?
	Well, that's one way to remember it, Giuseppe.
	I appreciate that.
	Yeah, they took my JamesFetzer.org website through a legal process that was completely wrong in order to preclude having access to my vast reporting about Sandy Hook when the Alex Jones trial began attacking me and other Sandy Hook skeptics.
	They referred to me as a batshit crazy guy.
	They had to stay as far away from me as possible.
	Well, some Americans might have wanted to know what that batshit crazy guy had to say.
	If you go to jamesfetzer.org now, though, you're not going to find it.
	It's just directing to some documents about the taking case.
	You need to go to jameshfetzer.org or to Moonrock Books, where the book America Nuked on 9-11 can be found, or to 911scholars.org for a recent presentation on 9-11.
	You'll find it there.
	Well, thank you so much, Jim.
	And we're looking forward to you being a part of the roundtable tomorrow.
	So stay tuned for Hour 2 with the great Joel Olson after these messages.
	Even the government admits that 9-11 was a conspiracy.
	But did you know that it was an inside job?
	That Osama had nothing to do with it?
	That the Twin Towers were blown apart by a sophisticated arrangement of mini or micro nukes?
	That Building 7 collapsed seven hours later because of explosives planted in the building?
	Barry Jennings was there.
	He heard them go off and felt himself stepping over dead people.
	The U.S.
	Geological Survey conducted studies of dust gathered from 35 locations in Lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Ironically, that means the government's own evidence contradicts the government's official position.
	9-11 was brought to us compliments of the CIA, the neocons of the Department of Defense, and the Mossad.
	Don't let yourself be played.
	Read American Nuked on 9-11.
	Available at moonrockbooks.com.
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	Biking around the Gulf Coast this week, I noted that, as usual, Some flags are at half-mast and some not.
	This half-assed, half-staff stuff must stop.
	I have no idea whose death made possible this latest flag lowering, but it does seem like the flag is at half-staff about half the time, or even more.
	We may as well just leave the flag where it is now, cut off the top half of the pole, And never move the flag again.
	That way the flag can be at half-mast and full-mast at the same time.
	Ridiculous.
	Just ridiculous.
	Anyway, remember Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy?
	His demise just sort of says it all.
	Certainly one of the most repellent and divisive characters in modern American politics.
	I can safely bet that well over 50% of Americans despise this drunken wonk who voted for lefties, that is against we whites, 99.9% of the time.
	Who decides if this person or that person gets a half-staffer?
	Well, since the commies came to town, I think I know who.
	But even after we kick the Marxists out, I say stop it.
	It's out of control.
	It's a bad joke.
	No more half-masks for anybody or anything.
	Or better yet, just take the flag down entirely.
	No matter what that flag may have represented in the past, today it is a symbol of nothing but bad for we whites.
	Maybe I should just keep my yap shut on the matter.
	Just keep it good and shut.
	Would anybody be surprised to wake up some morning and find the red hammer and sickle floating above the Capitol and all federal buildings?
	If ever there was an occasion for a flag at half-mast, that would be the one.
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	Welcome back to the second hour of The Perfect Triangle, number 111. number 111.
	It is my distinct honor to have the great Joe Olson, retired civil engineer and just a big brain, but a pragmatic one, practical, who just, you know, breaks it down and honors the laws of physics, honors how things really work, Joe.
	So we had to cut you off because we wanted to get Jim his promos in before he left, but pick up exactly where you want to, Joe.
	Yeah, well if you have a triangle and one of the points is missing, then you only have a straight line, so that's all we got left.
	Yeah, we had mentioned that steel melts at 2750 degrees Fahrenheit and that it vaporizes at 5180 degrees Fahrenheit.
	So think of steel just kind of like water.
	You know, it can be solid, and you can warm it up, and then it can be liquid, and then you can continue to warm it up, and then it'll turn into steam.
	And the same thing happens with almost everything in the universe.
	So, you have these three states of matter, and you could not possibly vaporize steel with thermite, because it burns at 4000 degrees.
	But thermite's also a real tricky thing to use.
	It requires a 3000 degree ignition source, which is generally magnesium that they use to set the thermite off.
	It's kind of finicky.
	The ability to be able to set Tens of thousands of charges inside those two buildings and have them all go off in perfect order without having any interruption in a building that was 50% occupied is beyond absurd to even think about.
	So that's item number one.
	Then the other thing is concrete melts at 1830 degrees and then the principal component that is silicon dioxide and it vaporizes because of the various components of how concrete is made.
	vaporize at different temperatures.
	The highest temperature is 3990 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's for silicon dioxide, which is the sand that's inside the cement.
	So bottom line is you couldn't vaporize the sand either.
	What we saw was massive plumes of vaporized building material pouring out of the core of the building.
	So that's like pyroclastic flow.
	Pyroclastic flow, Clue number one that it was something that was exceeding the temperature of thermite and certainly exceeding the temperature of any type of normal combustion from office materials or from jet fuel.
	So moving along.
	I was contacted by Robert David Steele because during his campaign in 2016, DJT said that he was going to Disclose all the information in the JFK files that have been sealed for 60 years, and that he was going to go ahead and tell us what really happened on 9-1-1.
	And there's film of him standing there being interviewed by news crews saying bombs were planted in the buildings.
	Well, yes, they certainly were, Mr. President, but you never did declassify anything that would prove that to us.
	So frustrated that he wasn't going to Live up to his campaign promises.
	I was contacted by Robert David Steele, and he said, you're one of the people that has alternative theories about what happened on 9-1-1.
	Will you please write a memo to the President?
	But here's the rules for submitting information to DJT.
	It can't be over 800 words, which means it can't be more than two pages, and it must include a picture or he won't look at it.
	And I went, this is the kind of moron that we've got running our country.
	Okay, I'll write an 800-word article, and I will include a picture.
	And here's my article, Mr. President.
	The title of the article, Joe Olson, Memorandum for the President 9-1-1, 10 Twin Towers Were Destroyed Using Clean Nukes.
	So, as you can see from this photo, This is pyroclastic flow pouring out of the core of the building.
	The way the buildings were built, and I don't have a floor plan, but I forwarded to you the FEMA 403 Chapter 2, which has all the construction drawings, and maybe we can pull some of those drawings up for the discussion tomorrow.
	But bottom line is, the buildings were built, like I said, square building.
	They were 208 feet on a side, on each side.
	And then they had a rectangular core in the center.
	The core had 50 vertical elevator shafts and three stairway shafts.
	In order to be fireproof, those were reinforced concrete shafts, so you had this funnel in the core of the building, and only one elevator shaft went continuously from the bottom basement floor, which was six levels below Street level, and it went all the way up to the 110th floor.
	So, that was the only elevator shaft, and it just happened to be in the geometric center of the building.
	And the building was built on granite bedrock.
	At the time of the last Ice Age, there was a 1,000 foot high glacier over New York.
	Sea levels were 440 feet lower.
	Then what they are now.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Yeah, there we go.
	There's the floor plan.
	You can see that rectangular section in the center that shows you all of the elevator shafts and all of the stairway shafts and then you can see the number of columns around the exterior of the building.
	Okay, so.
	If you place a nuclear bomb in the basement of the building, and like I said, it was built on granite bedrock, which was thousands of feet thick.
	But when they started drilling down to the foundation of the building and excavating, they realized that there was 40 feet of glacial till, which had been the rock and dirt that was inside the thousand-foot-high glacier.
	when it melted and it fell down to the ground.
	And the Hudson River was only 15 feet below grade level.
	So if they tried to excavate down into the granite bedrock, they'd have to do blasting.
	That would weaken that little 100-foot-wide wall of dirt and rock between them and the Hudson River, which would not only flood the basement of the building, it would also go down through the tunnel shafts into the path system and flood all of the subway system under New York.
	So they elected to build the parking garage basement on granite bedrock, six floors below grade level, and that's where it was.
	So when you plant a bomb in the center of the building and it explodes, the first thing that happens is you have a shockwave that goes up through the core of the building.
	The shockwave is going to exceed the detonation velocity of the concrete and the steel, causing the center of the building to crumble.
	And then the next thing that happens is you have a heat wave that goes up through the core of the building, and then you have this plasma that's coming out of this Bunker Buster bomb.
	We had built a Bunker Buster bomb which was called the Mother of All Bombs, MOAB.
	We had built two of those.
	They weighed like 30,000 pounds.
	There was only one plane that could carry them.
	They were impractical for use, but they said they could destroy things in a bunker that was 1,500 feet deep.
	Well, then they kept developing it, and they came up with a plasma bunker buster bomb.
	And this was one of the articles that was in Veterans Today.
	And those plasma buster bombs could burn through 4,000 feet of granite.
	And if you were boring a hole through granite and you hit a pipe or a corridor or...
	A conduit, any type of a passageway, it would blow hot gases in and virtually sterilize everything that was in the path of that bunker buster bomb, making the MOABs obsolete.
	So we had two of them.
	They chemically decompose and become unstable.
	We dropped one of them over Afghanistan at the end of the Trump term to show how tough we were and see how big our bombs are.
	Yeah, we're really tough.
	Okay, so whatever.
	So, my article was submitted to the president, along with articles by 28 authors.
	And this is Memorandum for the President, False Flag, Deep Trace Tooth, as updates for Sandy Hook.
	But anyhow, this is 28 authors.
	Of those 28 authors, I have been interviewed by Kevin Barrett.
	I've talked with Scott Bennett.
	I met with Christopher Bolin.
	Like I said, I had several debates with Steve Dyack.
	Gordon Duff and I have communicated hundreds of emails.
	James Fetzer.
	Yeah, we know him.
	Richard Gates.
	I met him in Austin at the 911 Truth DVD premiere in May of 2009 and had dinner with him twice in Houston.
	Let's see.
	Thomas Gordon Scott's a flake.
	David Ray Griffin has some really good information.
	Mark Hightower is the one that gave us the information on the detonation velocities, which is important.
	Barbara Honaker, I met her at the JFK conference with Fetzer in Dallas, November of 2018.
	She's a complete flake.
	Nicholas Cullerstorm, I've interviewed with him.
	Susan Landauer, I've talked to her.
	Let's see, Robert David Steele, I met him on his tour, Arise Tour, coming through Texas.
	And then, like I said, I talked with Judy Woods.
	So, bottom line is, out of the 28 authors, I have the contacts with most of them.
	So moving along, the next year I was going to be, I decided that there was more information after more research, there was more information I wanted to share on 9-1-1 and so I was in the process of writing an article on it when I got contacted by Coast to Coast AM And they said, we'd like you to come back and do another show.
	Well, I'd already done two interviews on Coast to Coast on global warming.
	And I thought, well, they've interviewed Judy Woods and Richard Gage.
	And it's, you know, been 20 years.
	Why don't I write an article about 9-1-1?
	So I wrote an article called Unequivocal 9-1-1 Nukes.
	And this was published at two different websites.
	One was Principia Australia, which is operated by our Principia Scientific Group out of UK, but they're a charitable science organization and can't get in political involvement.
	And then I forwarded to Veterans Today and Gordon Duff published it at Veterans Today.
	Now this shows the exterior of the building.
	And this shows the three-story tall panels.
	The horizontal bands, like I mentioned, are what's called spandrel sections.
	That's 52-inch high, 2-inch thick plate steel, okay?
	And these things, like I said, were built at a shipyard across the Hudson, brought over by barges and slung in with cranes, and then they were bolted and welded into place.
	So, bottom line is, this is where I produced the first information where I exposed my contacts with Richard Gage.
	And he had a publication that goes beyond misinformation, was the little pamphlet, about a 40 page long pamphlet.
	And in their pamphlet, they said it takes 0.13 pounds of thermite to melt one pound of steel.
	So, well, let's see.
	If you had 100,000 pounds of steel that was damaged and you multiply that times 0.13, you tell me how many pounds of thermite it takes to do that, and that doesn't vaporize a single damn molecule.
	Okay, the next thing is, in their report, they mentioned the exterior of the building was covered with 0.19 inch thick aluminum cladding to make it weatherproof and to be maintenance-proof.
	Well, aluminum vaporizes at a far lower temperature than steel does, and if you've got 2,200 tons of aluminum that's being vaporized by the same forces that's vaporizing steel, and you've got these little molecules of atmospheric iron, Aluminum, then you're going to form ferrous aluminum oxide, which is thermite nanospheres.
	Thermite is not a catalyst.
	Thermite is a reactant.
	Any thermite you find in the dust did not have any ability to bring down the building because you don't get thermite after you burn thermite.
	So bottom line is that would just mean that if you had a wide distribution of thermite around the building, then that would even increase more the amount of thermite you had in the building.
	This is all stuff that you cannot talk to Richard Gage about because he just goes la la la la la la la la la because he's a disinformation agent.
	Yeah, absolute crap.
	And that's why none of these people will debate me.
	It's absolutely disgusting.
	21 years later, here's these people that are still thumping their chest and claiming to be truth.
	I will give them credit.
	They did a good finite element analysis on the FEMA hypothesis for the failure of World Trade Center 7.
	And this was done by a civil engineer PhD at University of Alaska, Leroy Hulsley.
	H-U-L-S-E-Y.
	Excellent Proof that it didn't follow the way that the NIST report says, but it also didn't they don't go into what did cause the failure.
	So even though they can disprove with a $300,000 study what didn't happen, they do not speculate in the slightest what could have happened.
	So anyhow, Posted unequivocal 911 nukes, I was contacted by one of my readers.
	I said, Olson, you need to read the Palmer Report.
	P-O-M-M-E-R.
	This was produced by two German, one Dutch, and one French Ph.D.
	physicist.
	It was written in German, translated by Jeff Prager.
	They forwarded it to me.
	I looked at it.
	I went, O-M-G.
	I forwarded it to Gordon Duff.
	They posted it at Veterans Today, and this is the article.
	And the red arrows that you see on here, those are 110-story tall buildings that are virtually level with ground level.
	And that's two of them.
	And then they don't mention it, but here's building six looks exactly like a rectangular volcano.
	So there was actually four buildings that were destroyed that day.
	And then the building seven, which we just mentioned, that was destroyed.
	Now, this particular report has 50 PowerPoint slides that go through the entire demolition of the building.
	And it is narrated with three 90-minute long videos that go through the complete sequence of operation on all of these 50 PowerPoint slides.
	One of the interesting facts that they mention in here was that steel has four stable isotopes.
	And I went, well, gee, I've been studying radiation, and if steel has four radio, uh, four stable isotopes, how many radioactive isotopes does it have?
	Oh, let's see.
	It has 20.
	So, well, what are the other components that make up a steel and concrete building?
	Steel is made up of iron and carbon, and concrete is made up of carbon, silicon, and calcium.
	So what is we have in the way of total stable and radioactive isotopes from those four elements alone?
	Oh, 102.
	And what's the average half-life of the radioactive isotopes from those various substances?
	Oh, about three months.
	And what was the temperature of the building in December of 2001?
	Oh, 2500 degrees hot.
	You don't do that with a dew.
	You don't do that with thermite.
	What initiated the collapse of the two buildings?
	Both buildings were preceded by an approximately 2.2 Richter scale explosion 12 seconds prior to the video collapse in 14 seconds.
	You don't have a 2.2 Richter scale explosion with thermite that only has a detonation velocity of 895 meters per second.
	And you don't have a 2.2 Richter scale with a dew weapon.
	So I'm sorry, Judy, it was a dew weapon, but it was a nuclear dew.
	And the reason they measure nuclear energy in megatons is because that is equivalent to what a ton of TNT would do, and mega is a million.
	So you take a ton of TNT and I mean, a ton of uranium, a nuclear explosion, and it would be equivalent to a million tons of TNT.
	So that's bottom line what happened.
	You have an enormous amount of energy that's released in this building that's obvious.
	It's covering all of Manhattan with six inches of dust.
	So that's what happened that day and that's why it's been really difficult for people to wrap their heads around because it's complex engineering and so I wrote one additional article And this one was also posted at Veterans Today called Exposing the NIST Jenga Game.
	And in this particular article, I actually show the FEMA 403 Chapter 2 wall sections.
	And this is where, again, I mentioned the 52-inch high spandrel section.
	These are your bar joists that connect top and bottom cord to the exterior wall.
	And then you have a six-inch deep floor pan that's poured with concrete.
	Along with what they call hairpin shear ties that are also laced through the upper cords of the bar joists and then welded to the exterior wall.
	So there's no way that you were able to knock holes in the side of the building with a jet airplane.
	Those holes were created ahead of time and blown out.
	There's no way you could bring down the building with a jet airliner.
	So this is what we're faced with.
	21 years of the most rampant lies by the most evil forces on earth.
	And then Jim and I got in a discussion the other day.
	Pull my screen back up.
	Jim and I got in a discussion the other day, and I mentioned something about PNEC, the Project for the New American Century, which was released in September of 2000.
	And Jim goes, oh no, nobody knew about that until... God, mind like a steel trap.
	One of the generals disclosed it in a... I had its name top of my mind, but I'm skipping it right this minute.
	Wesley Clark?
	Wesley Clark!
	Yes, Wesley Clark said we're going to overthrow six countries in the Middle East, and it's like, oh really?
	And turns out we did overthrow six.
	We overthrew Afghanistan, then we overthrew Iraq, but then we didn't use the same MO.
	We used Operation Zero Footprint, and we overthrew Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt, ...and Libya, and after we overthrew Libya, we used CIA Operation Timber Sycamore to ship Libyan weapons through Turkey to attack Syria.
	So there's your six countries, and all of them were done by CIA operations, which included the 9-1-1 attacks, and also included the overthrows of all these Middle Eastern governments, and all the horrible things that have gone downstream from those particular events.
	Wow, Joe, that's really, really well stated.
	You know, one of the things that's cropping up these days with Flat Earth and all this other stuff is, there are no nuclear weapons.
	Do you have any thoughts on that?
	It seems to me there are nuclear weapons.
	Oh, absolutely, 100%.
	There's no way you can deny it.
	If you deny that, what are you going to do?
	You're going to deny that there's nuclear-powered submarines that can stay underwater for six months at a time?
	You're going to deny that there's nuclear-powered aircraft carriers that can circle the globe dozens of times without ever stopping to refuel and don't have any exhaust stacks on them?
	Are you going to deny that there's nuclear power plants?
	And I've had people go, well, yeah, just because it can decay at a controlled rate doesn't mean that it can decay at an uncontrolled rate.
	It's like, what the hell are you talking about?
	You have a controlled rate of burn inside the engine of your car, but you can also put a little bit of gasoline in your house, let it vaporize to the proper stoichiometric relationship, set off a spark, and blow your whole damn house down!
	You know, these people are ignorant beyond belief and they just they have to have something to cling to so that they can they can deny your argument because of their false beliefs.
	And the same thing with the stupid flat earthers and it's like give me a freaking break.
	There's so many parallel systems of observation, and I soloed at seven hours flight time, and I also had to learn how to navigate.
	And at the time, there was multiple means of navigation, and you had to learn navigation from The primitive nautical means of solar and astronomical measurements on latitude and longitude.
	And then you use Mercator projection because it's too hard to do it to the surface of a sphere.
	And then, you know, you ended up doing VOR intersections and triangulations for radio navigation and airplanes.
	And so it's like you had to understand navigation as it evolved through history of time.
	And all the systems of navigation are based on a globe.
	And, you know, you have the solar azimuth angle that varies between summer and winter.
	It's completely consistent.
	You have a solar azimuth angle that in the wintertime has zero presence on the North Pole.
	And in the summer, the sun doesn't set.
	It comes up and circles around the horizon.
	So, you know, all of the evidence indicates that the Earth is round.
	If it was flat, it'd be the only flat object in the whole entire universe because everything else is held by gravitational force into a spherical body unless it's too small to have enough gravity force to do that.
	So, you know, all you have to do is look around yourself and go, You know, have people been lied to for a thousand years about the earth being flat?
	Yes.
	Did millions of people believe in it was flat change the shape of the earth?
	No.
	You know, and then have we been lied to for the last 500 years about it being round when it's really flat?
	Uh, not possible.
	So, you know, I put these luddites in the same class, it's like, and that's why I said of all the conspiracy theories, those are the only two that I've been able to prove 100%.
	Everything else, geoengineering, you know, genetically modified food, fake medicines, viruses, everything else is either subject to question or completely erroneous, bogus, false narrative bullshit, so.
	So Joe, what do you make of some of the information that came out, like the Israeli art students, and they had a bunch of, it appeared they were, I don't know if it was disinformation, or they were actually installing a bunch of explosive devices at certain key points of the Twin Towers, and some of these other layered informations that just seem to be specious information.
	So what are your thoughts on the Israeli art students?
	Yeah, well, what are your thoughts on the dancing Israelis over in New Jersey?
	You know, according to Gordon Duff, they captured two different Israeli demolition teams, one of them at the anchor points for the George Washington Bridge and the others in a van load of explosives inside the Holland Tunnel.
	And Mayor Giuliani ordered that they be released.
	Nobody left the United States for five days after 9-1-1.
	They grounded all the flights, but the day after, an El Al airplane left New York City with a full list of passengers on their way back to Israel.
	So you tell me what's going on.
	Yeah.
	I didn't mention it, but in 2016, on the 15th anniversary of 9-1-1, I attended the Austin Truth Fest.
	And speaking at the Austin Truth Fest was Christopher Bolin, investigative journalist specializing in Mideast.
	And And he's from Sweden.
	We'll present evidence of his 11-year investigation solving 9-1-1.
	I got a signed copy of the book.
	I listened to his hour-long presentation.
	I've had several email exchanges with him, but now he's pretty much gone underground.
	But yes, he did a great job.
	Then the other one of the presenters was Jim Mars.
	Pioneer investigative reporter from Texas.
	He did the very first and best investigations of the JFK event.
	And then I was contacted by Architects and Engineers for 9-1-1 Truth because I'd attended their meetings and signed up as a As a P.E.
	and they said, you want to sign our charter?
	And I said, you know, our petition.
	And I said, well, if you're willing to discuss something besides thermite, I will.
	And then finally, in December of 2016, Richard Gage agreed to be on a symposium for the Islamic Institute at a rally up in, I think it was in Detroit.
	And two of the presenters were Christopher Bolin, And Kevin Barrett.
	And Kevin Barrett was formerly with Veterans Today, so they had been supporting the nuclear hypothesis.
	And Christopher Bolin has just absolute slam dunked all of the Zionist connections, financial connections, and jury-rigging connections, and Justice Department connections.
	Of the Zionists.
	And so I said, well, if Richard Gage can appear with those two guys, I'll go ahead and sign the petition.
	So I signed the petition.
	They sent me a notice back saying, yes, we've added your name to the roster.
	And then about a year or two later, I had mentioned to somebody that I was on the roster and they said, well, you used to be, but they just removed you.
	And it's like, yeah, okay.
	Yeah.
	I complained a little too loud about Thermite not being the magic bullet, you guys, and so I'm no longer signed on.
	But that doesn't matter.
	They've got 3,000 people, so that makes Gage feel like he's doing something and whatever their financial benefactors are, and he's been able to squash enough debate and suck the oxygen out of the room.
	This week, there's a radio station, which we won't mention right now, but They had offered me a spot to do an hour all five days this week, and then I didn't hear anything back from them.
	So I thought, well, you know, Monday is Labor Day, so maybe they're on holiday, and I know their hosts are still working, but maybe they had something else scheduled.
	So on Tuesday, I contacted them and said, what about the The 9-1-1 programs we were going to do this week because there's still time to do one on Tuesday through Saturday and still have five.
	And they said, oh, don't worry, Richard Gade's going to do that for us.
	And it's like, oh, that guy.
	Yeah, the suck the oxygen out of the room guy so that nobody else can talk.
	Yeah, it's like ridiculous.
	So anyhow, I found out the names of the other two guests that he was going to have.
	One of them is a Graduate civil engineer from, I believe, Berkeley named Roland Angle, anyhow, University of California, and he was former Special Forces.
	And so, anyhow, he said that the reason why the NIST said that the Building 7 couldn't be put out was because there was no water.
	And it's like, oh, OK, so that the buildings, you know, couldn't couldn't fight the fires inside.
	He also claimed that the Twin Towers were fully sprinkled, which they were not.
	And they also claimed they had asbestos, which they did not because asbestos was outlawed in 1972.
	The first lower floors of World Trade Center One did have asbestos, but part of it had been removed and the other part of it had been abated.
	So it was not a major issue at that particular point, but Tower 2 had zero asbestos.
	World Trade Center 7 had zero asbestos.
	The other guy was an architect named Bill Briner, B-R-I-N-N-I-E-R, who's an architect from New York.
	You know, if you want to have some color boards with different materials and, you know, a 3D one single point perspective rendering of what your building is going to look like, you hire an architect.
	But if you want to make anything in your building work, you hire engineers.
	So architects have no clue about how structures work, or how the other systems inside the buildings operate, and so for these two guys to hold themselves as some sort of authority, and Bill says, you know, I knew people that were in those buildings, I knew people that had, you know, worked for the teams that worked on those buildings, and I'm not going to rest until we find out the truth.
	Well, you're not going to find out the truth if the only person you listen to is the echo chamber gauge man, because he doesn't know the truth.
	And Gage actually hired Barbara Honaker to be on his board of directors for A&E Truth, and then because he may have said something that they didn't like, the people that he hired to be his board of directors overthrew him from his own organization.
	So then instead of being RichardGage.com, he opens up RichardGage.org and he says, now I'm a free man.
	I can talk about all the things.
	Well, what is it you're talking about that has anything to do with truth?
	You refuse to debate me.
	You've known me for 13 years.
	You've had hundreds of emails with me.
	We had dinner together twice.
	Why in the hell won't you discuss fundamental flaws in your hypothesis and the enormous amount of evidence that indicates the opinions about what happened?
	Now, in addition to that, you have prevailing winds at the World Trade Center which blow from the southwest to the northeast.
	So they blow from New Jersey across Brooklyn and up into New England.
	And what happens when you have a high level of radioactive isotopes in the air?
	You get slow growth cancers that show up about 20 years later.
	And there was probably 20,000 old people that had nuclear related slow growth cancers that once they were determined would have been impossible to ignore.
	And so what did they do?
	They put him in the nursing home, gave him remdesivir, and snuffed him with ventilators.
	Great point.
	Great point.
	Yeah, I mean, that's the level of satanic soulless evil.
	Joe, in the remaining 20 minutes or so, would you like to take some calls, see if anybody wants to call in and talk to you?
	Yeah, and I'm going to have to go on mute for a minute, so why don't you answer the calls and I'm going to run my AC and get my iPhone down below boiling temperature.
	I don't want my lithium battery doing Yeah, of course.
	I'll be glad to do that.
	So, if you'd like to call in and talk to the great Joe Olson, who is a learned engineer who's exposing what really happened amongst all the disinformation.
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	But remember, when you call in, you have to enter an access code.
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	811-7272 and then the pound sign.
	So if you'd like to call in, the lines are open and so we will wait until your calls arrive.
	But in the meantime, Joe, Oh, I'll let you chill a little more.
	By the way, if you want to follow Joe, he's a rising star on a new radio network called TNT Radio, which is a very interesting platform.
	A lot of impressive people on that, including Scott Bennett, Jim Fetzer's longtime collaborator.
	And so if you go to TNT Radio and Joe, who actually impressively is one of the co-founders of Principia Scientifica International, which is just a great website where learned academians and skilled engineers post what really happened, not all the nonsense and the disinformation that you get from the mainstream media and the chat rooms and what have you.
	Again if you'd like to call in we'll take your calls and if not Joe Joe I have a question for you as you as you did your deep dive into all of this horrific Attack on America by Israel.
	What what was the most shocking piece of evidence that you?
	You came across and and and what really really like was jaw-dropping for you, and then we'll take a call after that Well, just the fact that they could be so blatant about this.
	I mean, you know, they had control of NORAD.
	So three quarters of the air defense for the whole northeastern United States was on drills either in Alaska or out in Nebraska.
	And it's like, how the hell did a dozen guys with box cutters pull that off?
	You know, then we also have this guy named Michael Chernoff, and his name pops up repeatedly.
	One of the very first things that Janet Reno did when she was appointed to be the dictator of the DOJ, the attorney general for the United States, was that she fired 92 of 93 assistant attorney generals all across the United was that she fired 92 of 93 assistant attorney generals all across the United States, including the I go into that in a little bit of detail on my website, which is
	Slayingfakescience.com and I've got a link to a site that's on BitChute and it's bit.ly slash and then it's case sensitive capital J-O-E capital O-L-S-O-N And then the number two.
	And if you go to that, I do an hour-long interview about all the massive corruption in Texas, including Michael Chernoff's connection.
	He was the Assistant Attorney General for the New Jersey District, ended up being head of the NSA.
	He claimed to have been the one that wrote the Patriot Act, and it had been written in 1995.
	Joe Biden also claims to be the one that wrote the Patriot Act, so we know for a fact the Patriot Act was sitting in a drawer just waiting for some unpatriotic people to blow up a building in our country so we could pass a Patriot Act to shred our Constitution.
	I don't know how much more evil these people can get, but maybe injecting several billion people with toxic substances is as evil as they can get, or maybe they've got something even more evil up their sleeve.
	But you're going to have to someday wake up and confront the fact that you've been lied to about absolutely everything your whole entire life, and that there's very few sources that you can trust, and you need to find and share truth.
	And that's what I've dedicated my whole entire life to, ever since I got out of divorce court in 2000 after 12 years of being raped by a Let's put it this way.
	The most dishonorable woman I've ever met in my life and a slew of crooked, shyster lawyers and judges.
	So I'm very well aware of how decrepit the justice system is in this country.
	And that's just one of the elements that these people have complete control over and manipulate us under constantly.
	Wow, great point Joe.
	We've got our first caller, area code 586.
	Please tell us your name, where you're calling from, and what's your question for Joe Olson?
	This is Paul in Birmingham, Michigan.
	Hi, how are you guys tonight?
	Hi Paul, how are you?
	And my question is, I mean, I've tried waking up a few people, my relatives, a few years ago.
	Printed out an article from the UN's review.
	I think it was written by Ron and whatever you think of him.
	It was pretty good article about 9-11 explaining most of the salient points.
	And I don't even think any of them read, you know, it's like they don't want to be bothered or it's just too much for him to think about.
	And I've met one guy in five years that knows the truth.
	And my question is what, what is this firewall or how did they put this firewall in people's brains to even considering that their government would lie to them?
	Well, it's just you've grown up in a brainwashing Operation Mock and Bird reality your whole entire life, and so you end up having trust for your abuser, you know?
	It's like we're in an abusive relationship, but the abuser keeps telling us, yeah, I'm going to keep abusing you, you know, like they say.
	What's that?
	Yeah, well that's exactly the situation we're in.
	These people are just irredeemably evil, and if you find somebody that's least bit receptive, I highly recommend the Palmer Report.
	And there again, it's at Veterans Today, breathtaking, colon, Solving Nuclear 9-1-1.
	It has 50 PowerPoint slides and three 90-minute presentations that will completely articulate enough to understand that yes, this makes far more sense than a couple of box cutters and the buildings just magically falling down in 14 seconds.
	So that's the only way you can do it.
	And it takes a certain amount of cognitive dissonance to be able to overcome the directed narrative hypnosis that we've been under for decades.
	And I know because we were, you know, we're all raised in this same cesspool of misinformation, but I was really lucky.
	My grandfather owned five acres of land down on Padre Island.
	That was virtually stolen by Ted, I mean, excuse me, Lloyd Benson, who was Democrat, U.S.
	Senator, John Tower, who was Republican, U.S.
	Senator, the governor of Texas, and the head of TxDOT.
	And they stole his land for $600,000.
	A couple of months later, they sold it to the state of Texas for $1.2 million.
	And they only sold the center three acres out of a five acre track, and so they ended up netting several million dollars.
	It cost the state of Texas an extra two million dollars to put a reverse S-curve into the causeway that connects Port Isabel with Padre Island.
	So I've known about this corruption since 1972.
	I worked on 50 different projects during the 80s that were involved in the SNL crisis.
	I met the author of the books The Mafia, The CIA, and George Bush, Pete Bruton, selling copies of his book on the doorstep of the family court in Harris County.
	After he'd been fired by the Houston Post and they went bankrupt and were bought by the Hayhorse Corporation for exposing that the SNL crisis of the 80s was engineered by the Bush clan, and they stole, at that point, $600 billion, but since they never made any payments on it, the current debt on that is now $800 billion, added on to the other trillions that they've lumped us in with.
	So, you know, bottom line is you have to accept that we're run by a criminal syndicate, and if you can't convince them with their neighbors dropping dead from the FDA-approved experimental use drugs and the CDC, you know, childhood autism programming and the, you know, the massive other things that are going wrong in this world and in this country, then just give up on them.
	There's no hope for them.
	Just find people that you can communicate with and share the truth with them so that we can hopefully build a core of 10 or 15 percent of the people that reach the critical mass.
	They said that the American Revolution only required participation by about 10 percent of the people in the country.
	So if we have that active 10 or 15 percent now and we can overcome this dogma, then yes, maybe we can we can actually win this thing.
	Any follow up?
	Go ahead.
	They're having a 9-11 memorial.
	Go ahead.
	They're having a 9-11 memorial, hopefully, and I thought I might take some information, some pamphlets or some flyers and pass them out there.
	But I don't know.
	I might get arrested.
	Well, I took these color-copied, laminated information on 9-11 to the MAGA-Trump rally at the Toyota Center in Houston with 18,000 people there.
	I got there at 10 o'clock in the morning.
	I've talked to several hundred people.
	I had three people that said, I don't want to believe that, and the other 300 said, wow, that makes more sense than what the government said.
	Then I went to the Trump rally at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, and I got there at 7 o'clock in the morning.
	They didn't let us into the arena until 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
	I talked to over 500 people.
	In Dallas, for some reason, there was about 25 or 30 people that said, you're full of lies.
	I don't want to hear any of that.
	And then I had other groups of people where there'd be 20 people sitting in a circle around me and I'd be passing this stuff around and they'd be asking me questions, taking out their cell phones and taking pictures of it.
	So, you know, I don't know what to say.
	Then I went to the Trump rally in Conroe this past January.
	And I met another several dozen people that I had hour-long conversations with, and they all agreed.
	They said, you know, it's like, I'm an engineer.
	I understand exactly what you're talking about.
	Nothing they said makes any sense.
	So, you know, we may only win this one PC and one brain at a time, but if we don't try, we will not win.
	That's great, Joe.
	Our next caller is named Chris.
	Where are you calling from, and what would you like to ask Joe Olson?
	Hello, are you calling in?
	I guess not.
	Hello, Chris, are you there?
	Are you calling?
	Oh, you butt dialed?
	Okay, that's cool.
	Okay, so we had a butt dialer.
	That's hilarious, Joe.
	That's hilarious.
	I do it all the time.
	It's like, I didn't mean to call you.
	What the hell are you talking to me for?
	Your phone, you put it in your pocket.
	Next thing you know, your phone's talking to you.
	It's like, hey, I didn't call you.
	Oh, you butt dialed me.
	So go ahead.
	Oh, I was going to say that's nutty because you have to enter the code and everything.
	So let me check one more time.
	Hello, Chris, are you calling Joe Olson?
	Do you mean to call?
	Hello.
	Can you hear me?
	There he is.
	OK.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, hold on.
	I'm watching Star Trek here.
	Hey, you know, I've always had a question about the, what's up with the fire sprinklers?
	How come water wasn't pouring out of that building?
	Go ahead Joe.
	Because that building was not built with fire sprinklers.
	It had fire suppression systems which were fire standpipes in each of the stairways with hoses that are connected to units that have like they have an inch and a quarter valve and they have a two and a half inch fire department connection.
	Inside the stairway, which connects to the fire hose cabinets, that you can put out the fires yourself.
	And that was a pretty much standard operation for buildings that were supposedly fireproof, because steel doesn't melt under normal fire conditions.
	You can find evidences of steel frame structures burning 24 hours and not falling.
	And then the same thing with reinforced concrete.
	Look at the The Greenfield or Green Ridge, whatever towers it was in London, those were reinforced concrete buildings, but they had all wood interiors in them and no fire sprinkler system, and they burned continuously for 24 hours.
	And three years later, they were still wondering how they were going to demolish the buildings without affecting the adjoining neighborhoods.
	So, you know, bottom line is we build skyscrapers to be very resilient to fires because it's one of the hazards that could possibly bring buildings down, but there's never been a documented case of fires bringing down a high-rise building.
	Yeah, well, I've worked on, you know, through the 80s, I worked on a lot of You know, L.A.
	buildings, and they all have fire sprinklers, so I'm surprised that they didn't have fire sprinklers, that's all.
	Well, these buildings were permitted in the late 70s, and so I don't know why.
	It could be that the Port Authority said we're not subject to all of the fire code requirements for the City of New York because we're a governmental agency.
	I don't know.
	I don't know why they weren't fully sprinkled but they weren't.
	They did have standpipes and they did have fire storage tanks on several floors that were like 50,000 gallon storage tanks because you you can't pump water up with that amount of pressure without doing stages and so there was like several different floors that were nothing but service floors where they had domestic and fire water storage on those floors.
	So Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, that was my question.
	I just wondered why I didn't see water pouring out of those buildings.
	Well, thank you so much for the call, Chris.
	We've got another caller from Area Code 241, which I believe is the Dallas area.
	What's your name and what would you like to ask Joel Olson?
	This is Brent Howell.
	This is completely impromptu.
	Good evening, gentlemen.
	Joel, absolutely brilliant.
	Just absolutely brilliant.
	A great show.
	So, that's all I had to say.
	Anybody that disputes what's going on is absolutely crazy.
	Thank you very much.
	That's all I had to say.
	Well, appreciate the call, Brent, and the kind words.
	Thank you so much.
	And share this with your friends.
	Thank you.
	Because this is 21 years of lives and you can hopefully with these two hours that Jim and I and Giuseppe have presented tonight, you can help open some minds about what really went on.
	Joel, yes, I understand.
	I understand, Joel.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you.
	I understand.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Brent.
	Have a good weekend.
	Well, that was positive validation.
	Let's see, we've got a couple minutes.
	Let's go back and see if the gentleman from Michigan has any follow-up.
	Hey there, would you like to follow up with Joe on anything?
	You're still on the line.
	Yeah, I'm still here, but I'm eating crackers now.
	I enjoyed the show very much.
	Well, hey, have a great weekend and appreciate your call.
	Thanks so much, and have a great weekend.
	All right, Joe.
	Well, we've got a couple of approximately four minutes left, and we can still take another call if they do call, but in the meantime, Joe, isn't it crazy?
	21 years.
	I mean, I remember that day like it was yesterday, and it's so sad that so many people still believe that this information-lying narrative.
	I mean, it was clearly an attack on America.
	And by the Israel government and their globalist puppet masters, the international banking cabal.
	It's just tragic how many layers of disinformation.
	Remember that a few years back there was that woman who claimed she was an airline stewardess and had all this inside information?
	Yeah, Rebecca Roth.
	Yeah, right, right, right.
	And because I'm protecting all of my sources, I'm going to write a novel so that everything can be claimed to be fake and then nobody can claim that I'm providing disinformation.
	So she's written a series of novels and it's just like, yeah, she's one of those disinformation agents.
	Turns out she was an active airline stewardess for several years and then she wasn't after that.
	But yeah, you know, You get these grifters show up and they try to, you know, make a few bucks off everything.
	I highly recommend Christopher Bolin's book, Solving 9-1-1.
	I didn't bring my copy of it today, but we can put a cover up for it tomorrow when we're doing the program.
	Sure.
	Well, we've got another call, Joe Iricode804.
	Is this Catherine?
	Area code 804, are you there?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Arikode804, are you there?
	Well, we'll leave it open, perhaps she'll come on.
	But yeah, Christopher Bolin, he's, I've watched, I don't know his book, but I've watched it.
	Hello?
	804, are you there?
	Hey, how are you?
	Catherine, how are you?
	Got anything for Joe?
	Yeah, hi, can you hear me?
	Yep, I hear you fine.
	Can you hear me?
	Yep, we can hear you.
	Hello?
	Hello, we can hear you.
	So, anyway, I... Yeah, so, anyway, I followed the 9-11 stuff forever.
	I, you know, I think Christopher Perle's Berlin stuff is golden.
	I know about that Rebecca Sturtis woman stuff.
	And ultimately, I just don't go down the rabbit hole of claims.
	And I don't go down the rabbit hole of how it was done, whether it was directed at energy weapons, or... I mean, I think it was controlled demolition, but, you know, who knows?
	I don't know about mini-nukes.
	I agree with Joel Olson that flat Earth is a pile of crap, but about nukes, I don't, I lately am of the belief that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply massively firebombed because why didn't they use nukes again?
	If you think about it, like there's some people that say that you can build up nuclear energy over a long period of time, like Chernobyl.
	Uh, but that might be another thing that they're just lying about, but I wanted... Was Barbara Olson married to Joel Olson?
	Is there a connection there?
	No.
	She was married to the federal attorney, Ted Olson.
	She was married to the federal attorney, Ted Olson.
	Okay.
	So nothing to do with that, because I remember him talking about his wife taking him for everything.
	Yeah, all those cell phone calls.
	With 2001 technology, they were making cell calls that were impossible to make in a moving airline with the grid that we had available for telecommunications at the time.
	So all of that stuff is part of the disinformation.

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