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Sept. 4, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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The New JFK Show # 272 Richard Hooke - In Memoriam
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We're gonna go over a little memoriam thing that I wrote.
But suffice it to say that Richard was very involved in anything that he did.
And the news of his passing, in a way, it made me happy because now we can appreciate a lot of the stuff that he did.
And let me tell you, it's an enormous amount.
Of information, Jim.
I was just telling you that between us, I believe between for six years, there were almost 2,200 emails between us, you know, going and coming.
You know, I made a backup the other day on this.
So that it was an amazing amount of work that we put out.
And hey, you know, let's just go ahead and I'll do the screen share and take over.
And maybe later we can Check out some of the emails.
I want to hear all this stuff.
You were talking about various figures and personalities and all the synergy that came together as we were approaching the 50th observance of the assassination.
Exactly.
And it's just amazing To go back and study these emails and look at the threads, you know, what was going on between everybody and especially the wars.
And that's exactly what, like I said, you called it on Veterans Today for many years.
It was the JFK War, remember?
And the Education Forum and McAdams and all these Eugenio, you talking about?
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the ones that were really, really... Yeah, serious research that had disagreements.
...and who defended, you know, the lone nut theory thing and whatever, you know.
But in 2012, you know, Jim brought these guys together, you know, and decided to take them on.
So let's read a little bit about that.
And I'll just take the screen.
How's that?
Yep, I can see it.
All right.
Richard Hook.
So you've actually written it up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, let me tell you, that's a very handsome picture of Richard right there in Santa Barbara coming up right here.
You know, very, and we'll talk about the story of this whole thing.
That's why he gave me this thing I have here.
Very nice.
Richard Hook in memoriam.
A good friend, father, brother, and comrade in the JFK assassination debates has recently passed, even though it happened this past Christmas Day, 12-25-2021.
I did not find out until last week, which proves that keeping a low digital footprint works.
It does.
Yeah.
Richard Mainhoek was a bulldog in everything.
No, no, but Jim, also there was no obituary or anything online or anything.
This is like it happened in the UK and, you know, ship them back in a body bag or whatever.
I don't know, but, you know, that kind of thing.
No, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right, Larry.
Richard Mainhoek was a bulldog in everything investigated in the UK.
His contributions to the JFK assassination interpretation of this historical event should keep generations forever studying the vast amount of material he left behind.
And it was.
There's a picture of Richard at Santa Barbara and a little comment here.
The reason he was Dressed up like that is because we couldn't find Ralph Zinke, remember?
And we had asked Richard, as a backup, you did, if he had something ready, and he went and hastily prepared a speech, and he was ready to deliver.
He's ready to roll.
And what about that picture with the Mona Lisa smile?
Yeah, that's the book that we put out, and, you know.
That's your first time you ever published anything?
And it's coming up right now.
We originally met online in 2012 when the Man in the Doorway War was being waged at the Old Education Forum.
Jim Fetzer cleverly combined Rao Sengke's background as a chiropractor and Richardson Anthropology to take on those who opposed the Lee and the Doorway argument.
Along with Jim Fetzer and Ralph Zinke arguing and answering post after post.
They overstayed their welcome just a little too much and were soon booted out of that forum for defending Lee on the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository at the time of the JFK assassination.
I'm sure you remember those days, Jim.
I've been fighting so many battles.
Here is an email dated 10-27-2012, emblematic of Richard's ferociousness.
And note how it says up here, subject, this is a war.
Yeah, this is war.
Ralph, this morning I could not log on to the JFK assassination forum either.
All traces of my existence have been removed.
I have been vaporized.
My last argument there was with Ron Cabrio about freedom of speech and expression.
It seems my collages have got these guys all bent out of shape.
I told him, if I am wrong, what do you have to worry about?
Apparently, they do not feel that is the case.
Ralph?
The difference between us and them is that we are actually trying to produce some results, make some progress on JFK, not just shuffle around the old arguments, which are apparently all Duncan McRae and his minions want to do.
They want to stay in a state of denial.
Well, that's not good enough anymore.
We want to know what the hell really happened that day, and we want to know now, Richard Hook.
Well, let me say, these are disinformation guys.
Absolutely.
Those who were opposing us were ops.
I mean, there's no question.
What you guys were up against there was really amazing, Jim.
Spooks everywhere.
On a daily basis.
It was like reams and reams of communication.
In fact, at the time, you couldn't get into the education forum.
You know, they had already, you know, prevented anybody from signing on from the people that they already had.
So I could only watch from afar, you know, what Jim, Ralph, and Richard, you know, were dealing with, you know, on the education forum in those days.
It was a ferocious encounter, I agree.
In 2012, they decided to found the Oswald Innocents Campaign.
Actually, I think the original name was Project, with Richard Hook.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah.
With Richard Hook, Jim Fetzer, and Ralph Zinkai as the original founders of www.oswaldinnocent.com.
Which is still viable these days.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Ralph's done a very good job of managing it.
I was a first, uh, what, director or whatever.
Yeah, well that's, that's, that's mentioned now.
Yeah, which attracted the top minds of the JFK assassination investigation of the time.
First generation JFK legends Vincent Celandre and Mark Lane joined the movement.
And gave it a great deal of credibility, where the only mantra that was required of its members was, a griot was Lee Oswald in the TSBD doorway, thereby rendering it completely innocent of the crime attributed to him.
Let me tell you something, at the time, having, you know, with Vince and Mark at the time alive, obviously, and they were on our side, you know, It was indefensible, Jim and Gary, you know, what, about, you know, how the other side, and obviously a lot, most of them limited hangouts, you know, were trying to disrupt this whole thing here, you know, that it wasn't Lee in the doorway.
And then, obviously, with Richard's work coming up, and then, you know, the technology that followed, you know, we were able to nail it.
So, yeah, right there.
Fetzer became the founding chairman with Fetzer's encouragement.
Richard and I went on to publish both our first work on JFK, The Man with a Mona Lisa Smile, in which I contributed preliminary versions of some of the chapters that would later be incorporated into my own book, The JFK Horseman.
in anthropology, put him in a unique position to form and pass on opinions about the man in the book depository doorway, his distinct features, his entire pose, etc.
His 50 points of light collage was a de facto precursor of the digital forensic overlays presented by yours truly in 2015-2016 that identified Lee as doorman and Billy Lovelady as black hole man.
I mean, that was...
All right, talk about it.
What he did was to find point after point of similarity between the man and the famous photograph taken by... And following scientific evidence.
Go ahead.
Yeah, thank you, Gary.
James Zykowicz and Lee, when he was arrested, which were staggering.
I mean, Richard just, he began with a few and then he found a few more and then he found a few more and he wound up with 50 points of identification that they were the same.
He took a broom to these, you know, disinformation artists, all right?
And down here at the bottom, you can't see it, but where it says he's picking up from your published works on logic and scientific process, where if you got 14, you know, Point of clarity here.
You know, I mean, it's nailed, you know, when he's got 50 and more.
I remember later on, he had, like you said, up to 62, Jim.
Yeah, look at that.
Odds of one in a hundred trillion for these things to happen by chance.
And of course, Richard took Weisberg.
Weisberg, I think, had nine.
You know, Richard took it to 50, and then that's what, you know, set everything up, you know, for... And Larry took it to Blender.
Which, of course, no.
Wonderful, Larry.
Can we see it play?
which this is what it spawned.
And if you look, this is the image that we use only when we flip it.
And the whole process.
This is the one that we use by flipping it and obtaining this.
Wonderful, Larry.
Can we see it play?
Yeah, of course.
So it all came from Richard's work. - Okay. - It was all inspired by Richard's work, yeah, yeah.
Right, okay, and then we took on Billy Lovelady, who was Black Hole Man, you know, standing on the opposite side.
Bear in mind that Lee is not standing next to the wall there, he's in the middle, you know, right where that middle handrail is.
Of course.
I was confused about that for a long time.
And we did that research, I mean, so many times there, you know, and we verified it.
And even Ralph did, you know, in the fall of 2012, where he went there and he did that simulation there of the, which I, at the time, Was groundbreaking, because nobody had ever done that with Alton's exact photographic equipment, film, and everything.
And he went and he reenacted the Alton Six photo.
And that gave us also a lot of information.
But the obvious point here is that Billy Lovelady was black, old man.
And not only with one of the
uh not the the uh test images here the FBI okay and this other one was from a CBS image so by using two different photographs onto the same probe you know we're getting exactly the same result and here the uh features you know even though he's got his hands you know visoring You know, his face.
We were still able to extract enough information and digital similarities, you know, to, you know, determine that it was Billy Lovelady.
And with what Gary just mentioned, the Blender stuff, which gave us an in-depth 3D perception of what that image was all about.
So, Well, this was, you say, for the 50th anniversary of the assassination in 2013, the OIC decided to hold this conference in Santa Barbara at the Fess Parker Hotel of Davy Crocker fame.
Now, just a comment on that.
This was a conference I organized with Lorian Fenton, and we, you know, she recommended Santa Barbara because that's where JFK and Jackie and Honeybee were.
Yeah.
But there were good, good reasons.
Read on, read on why we ran away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The reason to get away from Dallas was the excessive influx of tourists and media into Dallas and Dealey Plaza.
The lockdown by the police and other inconveniences that the OIC did not want to deal with.
Remember that?
Remember that?
That was crazy.
Yeah.
They had a lockdown.
You couldn't get into Dealey Plaza.
It had just a, um, it was 100% mainstream.
Memorial for the 50s.
So we went west, young man, we went west.
Richard rented a van and drove from his home in San Rafael outside of Oakland to haul the vast amount of collages he'd blown up and constructed, saying these up on individual easels around the conference room.
I remember walking out to the parking lot with Richard to see the van and help unload it.
It was amazing how he'd been able to fit everything inside.
All of this came out of his own pocket, the same as he would do when he would send copies of his books to those interested in his work.
Let me tell you something from reading the emails and the threads.
It almost didn't happen because just about a few weeks before the conference, Jim and Ralph got into a big argument because Ralph didn't want any of the collages to show the hairline.
Okay, or he did not, what, Ralph, he wanted the collages to show that the hairline had been transposed from Billy Lovelady, from the famous wedding picture, remember Jim, to the man in the doorway.
Remember that?
And Richard said, I'm not having any of that, you know?
And, and, you know.
Of course, I was with Richard.
I had him put up his collages all over the place.
And that's what Richard did.
So, yeah.
And you're right.
It was a fabulous contribution.
I think Richard must have spent about $2,000 in this thing.
He gave me mine.
He just gave it to me.
If you count, look at the amount.
And then when I'm talking about that van, he had all this wood.
The easels were nothing but, you know, I think one by fours, you know, that he had stuck together and he had to stick those in there without damaging, you know, the posters and everything.
So a lot of credit, you know, to Richard for, you know, setting this up.
And that's what really gave that conference room the air of, you know, what it did.
It did, it did.
It added so much to the atmosphere, I couldn't agree more.
Yeah.
From 2012 to 2018, I, meaning Larry Rivera, counted over 2,000 individual emails transmitted between the two of us, between Larry and Richard.
All have been preserved, including topics, sex, and attachments that were sent during this incredible time of JFK research, dubbed by Fetzer on Veterans Today as the JFK War.
If there was something sensitive I was working on, for example, the transcription of the Fred Newcomb tapes in 2014, I would make sure he, Richard, got a copy of the progress just in case something unexpected happened.
You had to work like that, Jim.
I know.
You are so right.
You know, when the first thing that was, you know, I was advised is, you got the Newcombe tapes, be careful with the NSA.
Be careful with the NSA, you know?
During this time, we spoke almost on a daily basis.
Later on, when the National Archive began to release these documents in 2017, Richard and I drifted apart as my focus became finding out what was in these new releases.
Also, the Blender Project.
A lot to do with it, Jim.
You were really carrying it giant steps forward, Larry, because he was doing all these photo comparisons and you refined it by mastering photogrammetry and by creating these superpositions.
You really took it to a whole new dimension.
Richard fought most of his battles on Facebook, where he complained about being constantly harassed by Facebook monitors who thought some of his foes were too outlandish and violating contact rules.
What good did Richard have done at violating our contact rules?
Talking about the Rothschilds?
Talking about the Rothschilds?
Unbelievable.
Yeah, that's the earliest Facebook sent.
Oh, true.
Let me tell you, that happened.
And Richard just used to laugh it off.
He said, I'm suspended for 30 days, you know.
I thought it was like after Sandy Hook and all that, but it was going way back to Facebook.
I remember once in 2013 he suspected someone was following him even during his visits to the local Starbucks where on a daily basis he enjoyed his coffee beverages choice as he poured over JFK documents in his research.
Richard was a huge coffee drinker.
Having taken a picture of the individual, he went ahead and confronted him, much to the surprise and amusement of his gumshoe.
Another time, he told me how he had tried unsuccessfully to get his material included in the library where his sons went to school, arguing that they were suppressing the true history of the JFK assassination.
Moreover, at least one of his sons put tough questions about the assassination to his teachers based on what he had learned from his dad.
In 2000, yeah, pick it up, Larry, anytime you want to interject.
Sure, no, no, and this is, of course, in 2015, Richard, I was not speaking at Judy's conference in 2015, but she called me a couple of weeks before and she said, oh, come on, I wish, if you could please show up, you know, and be here with us.
And I went ahead and booked a flight and, you know, took off, you know?
And it just so happened that I ran to Richard there, and Richard and Marty Eicher, and we got together there in Dallas, and we went to Dealy Plaza later on, and I'm going to show you guys here.
Yeah, this is terrific!
I love it all!
This is something important because, you know, this is, what we're going to talk about here is important because it is the Where Richard became involved directly with one of the witnesses of this whole JFK assassination thing and the framing of Lee Oswald.
Yeah.
And where Richard would confront, you know, and so, you know, it's something that, you know, had him a little upset there, but, you know, For the Lancer Conference, he showed up there lugging all of his wares and his research.
So in 2015, Richard showed up in Dallas for the Lancer Conference lugging all of his wares and research.
A conference organizer allowed him to set up right outside the conference room.
Not inside, mind you, but outside.
Exactly.
Right behind him, a giant poster of his 50 points of light.
And of course, that was kind of a form of isolation because if you were inside, you were in, and if you were outside, you were out.
And Richard stuck it out, you know, and here it is, the 50 points of light that we just showed you and that I have here in the background, you know, which is still relevant today.
During an appearance by Buell Wesley Frazier, in which Frazier erroneously named Billy Lovelady as Doorman, Richard decided he'd heard enough, and proceeded to approach Frazier in the following manner and incident he wrote up in his book, The Path Toward Truth.
And this is from page 81.
This is taken straight from page 81 that he published in this book, The Path Towards Truth, which he sent me in 2019.
Newell Wesley Fraser's CIA Limited Hangout, Big Con, Arthur's Note, as witnessed by JFK Researcher Richard M. Hook at the JFK Lancer Conference at the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas, Texas on 11-22-2015.
The way Fraser goes about it, and I'm sure they put him up to it, is that he goes on and on with humorous, humanistic tales and stories about Oswald.
For instance, how Lee was a really nice guy, went out of his way to play ball with children in Oak Cliff, etc.
Wrong there, it wasn't Oak Cliff, rather it was Irving, you know, he had that, but go ahead, etc, etc.
Et cetera, et cetera.
And all the while, what Frazier's really doing is setting up the audience.
Then there's a short break.
Then he put up a big slide pic of the empty doorway.
And then they insert a pic of Love Lady by the post in his short-sleeved striped shirt at VI Photo.
And Frazier says, the alternate sixth doorman was lovely.
Gary, if he's in a short-sleeved striped shirt, how can he be the doorman?
That's why Richard walked up to him and said, man, you're foolish.
What's wrong with you people here?
How insulting!
At which point, the gullible audience subconsciously figures, well, how could this nice old man be lying?
At which point I stood up, raised my hand and said, no, it was all true.
I'll prove it to you.
And I began walking to the front of the room.
And they yelled at me to sit down that Mr. Fraser made it perfectly current.
It was lovely, and they would allow no debate.
That's incredible.
The incident included claims from Fraser's immediate family that Richard was working for Fatser Jim.
That's you!
Yeah.
What does it mean?
He's working for me.
And one of them poked his finger in Richard's chest.
Jesus!
Working for Fetzer.
That's very curious.
If he's working for Fetzer, then he's seeking the truth because that's what Fetzer does for God.
That's why he gets thrown out.
Needless to say, Richard was extremely distraught over the incident and retired to his room at the Adolphus and went straight from there to the airport after all activities were over.
Having heard about this from Richard himself, I offered to take him in and help him set up at Judah's conference, which I was attending myself.
He refused, however, He was available at the Deedly Plaza at 12.30 p.m.
Memorial where I snapped these two photos as he was in turn taking a photo of me taking pictures on the Zapruder pedestal.
There he is.
There he is.
Love it.
And that's the picture he's taking.
And he's taking that picture of you up here.
And this is Marty Eichler, you know, of course, our very good friend.
You know, he was standing as my bodyguard there, it appears, you know.
Nice, nice.
So anyway, yeah.
My dear Father Mercedes in Santa Barbara, November 2013.
That conference really was wonderful, wasn't it?
It was the best.
It was the only conference with any enduring importance.
After we got over, you know, the technical glitch, you know, it was almost an hour.
I remember you were having a fit, Jim.
Yeah.
So, let me... It all worked out.
I made videos of them all, and they got thousands and thousands of views until we got... Barry, I think there was a little more there on your blog for the finish.
No, I wanted to share something, you know, very, very important here.
Two things, and one is Richard's, I guess, final letter to me.
Like I said, are you recording at this moment?
You got it.
You got screen share.
He sent me a couple of his books there in 2019 after I had settled in Florida.
This came here Tuesday, September 3rd, 2019.
And at this time he was already off, you know, he'd already gone through the McKenzie thing.
And I remember we had McKenzie on our show at one time, didn't we, Jim?
Yeah, we did.
We'd had him twice.
And I guess that him and Richard, they had some kind of a falling out of sorts or whatever, you know.
But anyway, he started to collaborate with A woman by the name of Rachel White, I believe.
She's the one that sent you the communication.
Later on, you know, I found out that, and I'm so happy that he had fallen in love with this lady.
And she was very interested in research and conspiracies and things like that.
And apparently from what I was able to gather from the Facebook page, They were very, very much in love.
And I'm so happy for Richard, you know, for something like that to happen after, you know, a certain age, you know, everybody, you know, through all these things, you know.
So anyway, he wrote this letter here.
And like I said, you know, I had gone off to the Blender stuff and the new documents, which I'm still in the process, almost finished, you know, with the new information, the new book and everything, which, as you know, takes A lot of time.
Books don't get written in a couple of days.
It takes years.
And mentioning that, the amount of books that Richard put out, I think it must have been like 20 or 25 different books.
He self-published, by the way.
He went and he financed everything that he wrote and he published, and the CDs and everything.
So it's amazing How was he able to earn the money to do that, Murray?
I have no idea.
The only thing that I know is that he was a stay-at-home dad, you know, so, and he never talked about his, about his, you know, relationship with his wife.
The only thing that I could perceive was that he was a very, very much involved dad, father, you know, in everything they did, including sports and everything, you know, and visiting monuments and attractions, you know, and, In the West, you know, where you can see pictures of them, you know, visiting some of the monuments out West.
And, but here, you know, he, this handwritten note, you know, thought you might enjoy a copy of my recent book, The Killer Queen.
And The Killer Queen, that's when he started getting into the Jackie Did It thing.
And of course, Jim, that's one of the things that I tried to tell Richard, look, you cannot depend on the Zapruder film and what is shown in frames.
You might think that what you see, but it's not really.
The Z film has been massively altered.
And if you try to focus on certain frames of the Z film, for example, his big theory here that they They developed was that she had shot him through the lamb chop sock puppet.
Yeah, the sock puppet that had been given to her, you know.
And, you know, I've completed with the assistance of Rachel White of the United, of the UK, when I started my research working on my first book, The Man with a Mona Lisa Smile, and met with you in Santa Barbara 2013, I never suspected that this is where it would lead.
Total consideration of all the available evidence has led me to the inevitable conclusion that Jackie Kennedy was a CIA plant in the Kennedy family from the beginning, and the Secret Service limo driver, William Greer, of course, I agree with that 100%, was fully complicit and shot JFK in the head once Greer stopped the car.
Obviously, we don't agree with that.
But we know that brains are blown out to the wrong side.
Exactly, which I know.
So many times you brought that up, of course.
And what shot would Jackie have fired?
There's no place for a bullet to go, Larry.
I mean, this is just...
This is nutty.
I'm wondering if this new woman, you know, came in to divert, to essentially discredit all of his previous work, which was so good at identifying Lee in the doorway.
That's right.
It's 180, isn't it?
Jackie was a CIA and a Hitler.
This is just about as dumb as anything anyone has ever said in their whole life.
Rod McKenzie told me, David Morales told him that Jackie was in on it and a conspirator.
And over time, I have become convinced that it was the case.
Hope you enjoy this book.
Your friend always, no matter what.
OK?
Emphasize, no matter what.
OK, Richard.
OK.
Can you get this here?
Do you get this here?
This was the internet wars.
Can you see this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The internet wars in 2012.
And this was when this thing was going back and forth, you know?
And maybe, you know, show you a little about how Richard started with you, Jim, in early May of 2012.
Go up to the top so we see the top, and then we'll scroll down here, yeah.
JFK Jungle Cruise, Journey into the Heart of Darkness.
Okay.
That's kind of a nice, yeah, that's a nice color.
Was the original?
The original wasn't colored.
It was black and white, right?
No, of course not.
But Larry, go back.
I want to look at that colorized a second.
That's pretty fascinating.
Well, Richard, sometimes I don't know where he got some of the stuff, you know, but he had a lot of really good images in his work.
What a clever guy.
Okay, let's look at this.
If it is their done which needs the support of government, truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson.
A man does what he must in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and this is the basis of all human morality.
John F. Kennedy.
In early May of 2012, I emailed the Honorable Professor James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., a copy of a research paper I had written.
There were two Oswalds.
Bet the farm on it.
In hope the professor might find the time to give it a quick read.
Possibly discern something of value.
He later rescinded that idea, Jim.
his associates, Ralph Sinque, read my paper.
And Dr. Sinque put in a few good words for me, saying, in my opinion, Richard has done some fine work assembling a chronology of events occurring on November 22nd, 1963, where Lee Harvey Oswald and his double were reportedly in two places at once.
Ipso facto, Lee Harvey Oswald had a doppelganger.
He later rescinded that idea, Jim.
That's one thing that Richard was known to do.
As he would progress, he would...
The email exchange introduced me to Professor Fetzer's inner circle of talent at JFK Research, including Rauschenke Chiropractor, Claire Kuhn, right brain photo expert, voice of reason, grizzled old school veteran of JFK Research, Katie Ruckman, and of course a good professor, James H. Fetzer, McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota, myself, Richard Hook, student of anthropology and former computer programmer.
Famous Ulchins 9.
Why don't we look at it just a second, Larry, just for orientation.
Yeah, just to show it's a close-up of that section of the doorway that we've discussed so much.
Yeah, Famous Ulchins 6 photo and inset taken November 22, 1963 at 1230.
Professor Fetzer informed me that a debate was in progress on the Education Forum website where Ralph Zinke had started a discussion thread, Ralph Zinke on Lovelady and Oswald in the doorway.
Ralph Zinke, having been responsible for bringing the focus of JFK research back to the famous Alton Six photo, showing President Kennedy's shot in the backseat of the limousine while doorman Oswald Lovelady looked on from the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository.
Dr. Singh K, Clark Kuhn, and Jim Fetzer had postulated in their series of articles, JFK Special 1, 2, 3, there'd be about a dozen in the series.
Yeah, I remember those.
I mean, that was really the most I've ever written on any single subject ever.
And it was the war that JFK wore on Veterans Day.
It was!
Oswald was in the doorway after all.
That doorman, with Oswald's posture and wearing Oswald's distinctive brown long-sleeved overshirt, could have been none other than Lee Harvey Oswald, not Millie Lovelady, as the official Warren Commission position has contended for nearly 50 years.
Jim Fetzer pointed out that Lee Harvey Oswald, in his interrogation by Captain Will Fritz of the Dallas PD, said he was out with Bill Shelley in front, that Oswald would not have lied about something like that.
So there's really no reason for us to think otherwise.
Billy Lovelady also testified to the FBI three months later that he'd been wearing a red and white vertically-striped short-sleeved shirt the day of the assassination, thereby eliminating any possibility of him, Lovelady, having And 10 years later, 12 years later, we're sitting here and it is exactly the same argument, Jim and Gary, you know?
I mean, you cannot refute any of this.
I know, it's great.
And this is just a wonderful piece he's got here.
This is one of his wonderful... Scroll down just a hair more, Larry, just so we can see.
Yeah, good.
Stop.
No, go back up just a tiny, so we can see the top.
Yeah, very good.
Dr. St.
Kate said he was having a problem with the JFK Lancer website.
They were not allowing him to post his cutting-edge JFK research on their forum.
I informed Jim and Ralph that I was a JFK researcher who'd been banned six months earlier from the JFK History Forum by webmaster Robert Harris, who'd sent me the message.
Your account had been closed, but let's just look at this.
Let's just look at what Richard had there, because it's so nice, Larry.
Yeah, I mean, this is so nice.
Fedora man, smiling woman, child doorman, black Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
Black tie man.
Black hole man.
Obvious gay man.
He was so good at getting this all nice terminology.
Yeah, and later this was developed to identify each and every one of them, including the removal of Wesley Frazier, you know, from The Argent Six.
But yeah, it demonstrates, obviously, you know, that, and as you can see, you know, Richard was such a warrior, you know, that he'd already been suspended for six months, you know.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, scroll down.
Robert Harris has said he'd been for undocumented assertions.
That's bad.
Robert Harris had gone ballistic when I accused him of not having read the blockbuster Me and Lee by Oswald's girlfriend in New Orleans during the summer of 1963, Judith Barry Baker, whose book documents what Lee Oswald was really doing that summer, making it plain that Lee was a human being, in no way a killer, completely incapable of shooting our very fine President John F. Kennedy.
Jim and Ralph informed me we were fighting a guerrilla propaganda war on these websites.
All of the sites have been infiltrated by CIA moles and mongers of disinformation.
None of them, honestly, in search of the truth.
How freaking true is that?
How freaking true is that?
I know, 100%.
I assisted Dr. Fetzer's crew of intrepid researchers in their email conversations.
Him and Ralph posted our insights to the thread.
Ralph's and Kaye on Love, Lady and Oswald in the doorway.
That literally became the battlefront in our war to expose the real truth in the assassination of the president.
It really did.
It really did.
You know, like I said earlier, you know, I couldn't get into that forum because it was closed already.
But, you know, I would, you know, go over everything that was going on.
It was fast and furious.
There could be 20 posts in a single day.
Yeah, yeah.
Confident in their request, armed with the knowledge that those who lie leave an evidence trail.
Those that tell the truth do not.
The CIA conspiratorial modus operandi being an arrogant belief that a lie can only be covered by another lie.
A flight premise guaranteeing the existence of an incriminating evidence trail right back to the god-awful conspiratorial acts they committed on that fateful day that lives in infamy.
November 22, 1963.
That's quite impressive prose there that Richard came up with there.
Future anthropologists could use this threat as a case study in how group conformity leads to mediocrity and abandonment of all standards of rationality for the sake of conversions of opinion among the members of this forum, which is officially dedicated to exposing falsehood and revealing truths about the assassination of JFK, but which instead entails mutual support for others who are committed to false beliefs, regardless of the evidence.
I like that!
He said, I like that guy!
The parallels with the rise of the Third Reich are both astounding and disturbing.
I'm sorry to say that we live in an Orwellian world where black is white, false is true, and the good are evil.
We live in dangerous times.
Do we?
Dr. Fetzer's crew of five JFK researchers embarked on their imaginary steam-powered tugboat piece, chugging upstream through murky, brown, malarial-infested Congo waters of JFK's infirmation.
It was like traveling back to the beginning of time, with rotting vegetation, massive banyan trees and dangling vines, an empty, silent stream surrounded by impenetrable forest, and the air was warm and sluggish.
It was reminiscent of Henry Morton Stanley's trip up the Congo in search of Livingston in the 19th century.
The driven crew of five.
The honorable professor, the good doctor, the right-brained female voice of reason, the grizzled JFK veteran, and the unemployed head of power.
Carried on bravely around blind turns into the heart of darkness, avoiding slings and arrows, pygmy poison darts, a halo of spears, threats of venomous shells, the snapping jaws of retired prosecutorial government apologists, constantly weathering the education forum pit of vipers,
A world of JFK lore where web supermembers must lie prostrate before other supermembers we trampled upon and swear obedience otherwise facing instant condemnation and certain death.
And we will bring that to a close right there because I do not see any reason to continue.
Applause for Richard, huh?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
We just got a little bit of sand left anyway.
You know.
All right.
He was a very good writer, Jim.
Like I mentioned, his writing was outstanding.
Some of the stuff later on, obviously, but he really defended that Man in the Doorway thing.
And that's why later on, I gave him all the credit.
I mean, this thing here that he did on the 50 Points of Light, It's still relevant today, you know.
Yeah, Larry, step away.
Yeah, there you go.
Now, anyone can stop and pause right there and read all 50 of Richard Hook's points of light.
There's only one small thing that I found there.
I mean, it was so insignificant, it really didn't really matter, but he was always insisting on a thumbtug here of the t-shirt when that Thing really happened, you know, in the Texas theater when they beat the crap out of him, you know, and they pulled.
No, he, he, he, he, no, he was right about that too.
Larry Oswald did.
He had, uh, he had colleagues who said that he did.
He always tugged at his t-shirt.
That wasn't just from the fight.
That was, that was a habit he had of tugging.
I think everything Richard had to say about the, the, the man in the doorway was spot on.
I never found a flaw in it.
The 50 Points of Light, of course, you know, the way he isolated everything and numbered everything from 1 to 50, you know, there, you know... But I'll tell you, that one quote from me toward the end there captured it exactly.
That was what was going on on that scene.
Oh, yeah.
Is that what you meant when you were saying, 9 out of 10 JFK researchers are working the other side?
Oh, yeah.
You have no idea how many I've outed.
I probably had 20 or 30 blogs outing 20 or 30 different individuals and groups who were covering up on JFK.
I mean, I only put a tiny, tiny little sample of it in my book, Who, How, Why.
I mean, I've got, I did a I had a shit pot full of that stuff.
I was the only one who was out there outing him, but I was outing him right and left, right up to Josiah Thompson and Robert Grody.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I was going to say, in that education from there at the time, it was you three guys, and they could not handle, you know, the firepower that you three at the same time brought to the discussions, you know, because there was always one backing up the other, you know.
That was good.
It was very good.
It was real bonafide intellectual engagement, except they were playing dirty.
They were dishonest because they were ops and shills.
I mean, so yeah, but it was, it was fascinating.
It was a firefight.
It was hand-to-hand combat, Larry.
I know, but wasn't it easy to knock them off?
Because nine out of 10 were won.
So if you just hit almost anyone, you were bound to get one.
Well, Richard, it was wonderful.
That was a golden age.
That was really fascinating.
That education for a minute meant something in those days, man.
We were really fighting it out.
It was a JFK war.
Once you recognize that Lee was in the doorway, I mean, the whole thing just falls apart and you realize how massively the government was corrupt and whitewashing with the Warren report and everything else that leads back to Lyndon.
And then you've got the big picture.
You can look far and wide for JFK research and they will not touch Lee in the doorway.
Oh, that's a beta rover.
That's a done deal.
I mean, I take it for granted, man.
I mean, you know.
If you're watching the new JFK show, hell yeah, this is old stuff to us.
But a lot of people need to come around to this, including mainstream.
They have Oslo.
Documentaries all the time and they'll never come anywhere around.
But you know, Larry, it was that last week you learned of Richard's death was very emotional, but that led to this.
I congratulate you.
This is wonderful.
I'm so appreciative of what you put together for tonight.
Let me tell you going through the, like I said, you're talking about more than almost 2200 different emails.
That I have extracted, and there are, there's a lot, a lot of these emails contain attachments that I never even downloaded, you know, and I just, that I never even saved, you know, because, you know, for one, for one reason or the other, but let me tell you, the guy put out a lot, a lot, a lot of really good work, like, like we mentioned, you know, later on, you know, whatever happened there, you know, I think one of the books that really influenced
Richard, I remember, was the man on the sixth floor, you know, the one about the Ruth Ann Martinez and Lloyd Factor, you know, and that kind of thing.
And then the McKenzie thing, you know, and he got to meet McKenzie and And then from there on, you know, he just went a different path, you know, like I said, you know, I was interested more in, you know, the new documents and the Blender stuff, you know, and then the hurricanes came, you know, so we lost touch, you know, and, you know, but, you know, he kept sending me stuff, you know, like you saw the letter, you know, and a couple more books, you know, at least, I don't know if they're the final two books, but the one that
Uh, the title is The Killer Queen.
Yeah.
And, uh, you know, it's really, it's really sad.
I mean, that he was so brilliant.
Uh, I, I think there's gotta be more to this story.
I mean, you know, I agree with that.
There's just something not right here.
I didn't want to, I didn't want to be the first to say it, but you know, you guys are a hundred percent right.
I don't want to leave it at that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Number 272.
This has been in memory of Richard Hook.
We'll see you next time.
Very good man.
Brilliant guy.
Let me tell you, nobody, and nobody knew Richard like we knew him, you know, and like I said, you know, those emails, you know, I just, I mean, and even other things, you know, we used to talk about sports.
We used to talk about things, you know, that were not related, you know, to JFK.
You know, but when I started to look at the incredible amount, and let me just take a screenshot just to show you.
We're not going to publish this.
I've got to give it back to you, Gary.
Oh, you can't stop recording?
Give me a second.
I'm getting it back to you.
Go ahead.
There you go.
Okay.
Yeah, you guys got to see this.
I mean... Go ahead and stop recording though, Jim.
I'm still recording.
No, we want to record.
I'm looking at you.
It says recording right now.
Okay, you want to, you want, okay.
I want us to be recording, Gary.
Okay, okay, okay.
I'm sorry, I know you misunderstood.
Okay, I'm sorry.
All right, here we go.
Okay, I'm here.
Screen share.
All right, okay.
Let me just close this.
Oops.
Here we go.
All right, can you guys see this?
Yeah.
Up and down.
Let me get this out of the way.
And to the far right is the date.
Right, of course.
OK, so we're going to start this one off right here.
D.D.
Plaza photo shoot, 10-25-12.
That was when Ralph Uh, went and did the, uh, reenactment of The Alternate Six.
I was supposed to go.
I was trying to find, uh, plane tickets to go and help Ralph.
And, uh, this is what Richard sent, okay?
It's a little funny, you know?
Ralph, as much as I would like to, I regret that I cannot.
I have two perceptive young boys who would be so very worried if I went down there.
Well, I have to continue doing what I can for my trusty computer.
I would like to meet all you guys somewhere down the line, though, in the future.
I have to get out front and set up the Halloween graveyard.
Is that amazing there?
I mean, that's the father.
Yeah, touching.
You know?
And so, we've got here from... And this goes... Look at this.
Come on.
2013, January, February, March 2013, you know, April, many days, look, on the 15th, one, two, three, four, five.
Yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow, on a single day.
On a single day, all right?
I mean, this is what I'm talking about here, you know?
And everything, there, Milpitas Conference, you guys were talking about that This is what real JFK research looks like.
That's right.
That's right.
I mean, everything that we worked on that we, you know, like I said, you know, and here's July, here's August and like, I mean, on and on.
This is it.
You know, bogus CIA wedding photo.
I think I had marked some of these here towards the end.
Let me see.
No, I guess not.
But yeah, you know, that's what we were doing in those days.
Fantastic, Larry.
Fantastic.
Gary, take us out again, my friend.
Take us out again.
All right.
Yeah, this has been a memorial to Richard Hook, JFK 272.
We'll see you next week.
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