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Aug. 18, 2022 - Jim Fetzer

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Dr. Lee Merritt Interview with Poornima Wagh PhD Virology

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	Thank you.
	I'm Dr. Lee Merritt.
	You can find me at TheMedicalRebel.com.
	This is the most important video that I've done since COVID.
	I'm sharing this without editing because I think you need to get a feel for the depth of knowledge to the guest and the perspective that this whole thing gives.
	You know, we've been lied to at every turn, and the way out is to untangle the lies by going back to basics.
	For everything you believe to be true, you have to ask yourself, how do I know this?
	How is it proven?
	Is there another possibility?
	So I first saw Dr. Purnima Wagh on a short anonymous video saying there was no SARS-CoV-2, no viruses, it was just all a lot of crap.
	You may have seen that video.
	Well, the fact checkers came out and they said, this is when I said, I have to get a hold of Dr. Wagh because when they come out like this, there's something important.
	So they came out and they said, No, not true.
	She doesn't even exist.
	She's a history major.
	No degrees are found, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	That's not true.
	I was able to track her down, and this interview is the result.
	Dr. Wong is the real deal.
	You can judge for yourself.
	How knowledgeable she is and that she's blessed with great common sense.
	So I know this is a long video.
	I usually edit videos, but this is too important to edit.
	So you have to put up with a few points and interruptions by me.
	But I hope this will be thought-provoking and enlightening because we need more free-thinking rebels.
	Anyway, if you want to support my efforts in bringing you information like this, please join me at themedicalrebel.com.
	You can find lots of self-help medical information.
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	I've got a How to Be So Healthy You Don't Need a Doctor Symposium.
	And there's a shop that you can use for my approach to health.
	I've got a very simple solution to supplementation, for example.
	Anyway, thanks all for your support.
	Don't forget to speak dangerous or you'll be a rebel.
	Thank you.
	I thought I stirred up a, you know, a storm, you know, what kind of storm, when I went down and just talked against the mask mandate and had my orthopedic contract canceled, you know, because I thought nobody can believe this scientific nonsense about this, this masks.
	Well, I thought then, then I got in this fight and I really thought I understood what was going on, but it turns out it's much deeper.
	And then I heard Dr. Wang and I, now my head's about to explode, but she stirred up the ultimate storm because she came and told the truth about not being able to find any evidence that COVID virus, the SARS-CoV-2 exists.
	So thank you so much for being on the show.
	Oh, thank you for having me.
	Yeah, so the first thing that happens when anybody speaks out is people say things like, oh, she can't know anything.
	She's an orthopedic surgeon.
	What does she know about viruses?
	Okay, but you know about viruses.
	Tell us a little about your background.
	Well, I'm going to start at the beginning very quickly.
	So I started working in my dad's lab.
	My dad worked for Pfizer for 20, I think almost 28 years in R&D, in research and development in India.
	I was born and brought up in India.
	And I came to this country when I was 18 in April of 1991.
	But I started working in my dad's lab when I was 13.
	My dad is a biochemist and he worked for Pfizer.
	So he had a lab that he had set up and I started working there.
	And so I had, I was doing stuff very early on in my life.
	Plus I was a guinea pig, me and my sister.
	My sister is also a biochemist.
	She has a PhD in biochemistry.
	We were guinea pigs for Pfizer products.
	Pfizer India products, every antibiotic, every cough medicine, anything and everything was given to us.
	I'm thankful you're still here!
	I'm lucky I'm still here.
	So I started out there and most people, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, my dad, same thing on my mom's side, they have a medical background either the physicians or their chemists, analytical chemists or you know something in that in the hard sciences.
	So when I moved here I decided okay I'm gonna get away from the sciences and I'm going to finance and economics.
	My parents threw a tantrum, but that's okay.
	They said, well, why are you going into finance?
	There's nothing in there.
	It's for idiots.
	It's like, well, you know, I don't want to just, I need to make a living.
	I might not be able to make a living in the sciences if I don't go into medicine.
	And I had no intention of going into, you know, into medical school.
	So I ended up going into finance and economics and I got a bachelor's in finance.
	From Salisbury State University.
	Now Salisbury State University is called Salisbury University.
	It's in Maryland.
	And then I ended up getting my MBA in Fairbanks, Alaska at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.
	So I got an MBA there in finance and economics.
	And then as I was doing that, I sort of I met people in Fairbanks that were, you know, were very much into bacteriology and things like that on campus.
	And so I got, I went back into doing that stuff while I was still working on my MBA program.
	And I started working in the lab there just casually in, you know, the science labs there, the biology labs.
	And I was, I became a lab tech and, you know, so on and so forth.
	And it just kind of grew from there organically.
	And in 2005, I moved to Southern California because I could not deal with the weather in Alaska.
	I was in Alaska for 10 years from 1995 to 2005.
	I mean, it was brutal.
	The winters and darkness is just, it's just brutal.
	So, I moved down to California.
	I had a friend or two, actually three friends here, and I moved to Santa Barbara, and I enrolled myself in classes at Santa Barbara City College, and Judy Evans-Meyer, who was the head of the Microbiology and Cell Biology Lab, hired me.
	And that was the best part of my life.
	I mean, it was fantastic because she was, she was a thinker.
	She thought outside the, you know, she thought outside the box.
	And she always said, you know, I have a real problem with virology.
	Virology and most of the, even most of bacteriology is just crapola.
	She would always say that.
	And I said, but Judy, you know, you're a microbiologist.
	She says, yeah, I know, but you know, I'm a coal miner's daughter from Pittsburgh, and I have more common sense than most people in academia.
	And she would push us to look outside the box constantly.
	So I became, from a lab tech, I ended up becoming a lab scientist in her lab.
	I actually I was taking bunches of classes and after that I started teaching part of her class in microbiology, pathology, and cell biology.
	I was just doing it part-time when, you know, Judy was not around.
	She was going to conferences and stuff.
	And the stuff that I saw working in her lab when we started doing a lot of stuff, I didn't, and people, you know, people go out and look out and figure out I'm published.
	I didn't, I was just a lab scientist.
	I mean, not every lab scientist is published.
	I mean, if you work in a lab as a clinical lab scientist, you know, if you're not doing major big things for the NIH or anything, Major.
	You don't publish.
	You just do the lab work.
	You do testing and things like that, which that's what I did.
	But I'd had enough lab experience under my belt that what I was seeing in lab experimentation and what I was seeing in the textbooks was entirely different.
	And I'm talking about bacteria and fungi.
	This is not even viruses yet.
	Wow.
	Because in virology, they use tissue cultures which are all contaminated, you know, they use antibiotics and antimicrobics and bovine calf serum does that and something else, trypsin, and a bunch of other enzymes.
	They do the same thing in microbiology, you know, when they're dealing with, besides nutrient auger, which is the mainstay of most bacteria that you, you know, you grow Most bacteria on a lawn of nutrient agar, they're using things like antibiotics like vancomycin and amphotericin B penicillin based antibiotics.
	They use it on a regular basis and then they show this dead zone, they call it the zone of inhibition.
	You know, this dead bacterial zone on on the Petri dish.
	And it's from the bacteria.
	It's from the antibiotics that they're using in there.
	And they say, oh, look, you know, this is the cytopath.
	This is the effect of the bacteria.
	It's causing disease in it's causing strep throat or it's causing this.
	No, it's from the it's the antibiotics that you're using in there.
	In the bacterial cultures.
	So it's not even, it's not just virology that's a scam.
	Mosha pathology is also pretty much fairly fraudulent.
	So I started seeing this and in 2009 my eyes really opened up because I, we started working on a project that Judy was working on with a few other scientists at University of California Santa Barbara.
	We were looking at Valley Fever, San Joaquin Valley Fever.
	I'm sure, I don't know if people have heard about it and it is caused by the Spores.
	It is supposedly caused by the spores of a fungus called Coccidioides imittus.
	Now, they have never isolated the spores of this fungus, but supposedly the spores cause this disease, these symptoms.
	So, the symptoms are lung-based.
	You know, you get pneumonia, you get Labor breathing, you lose your sense of smell and taste, fatigue, fever, I mean pretty much like COVID.
	The same, you know, same symptomology.
	And we looked at soil samples in a 100-mile radius around Fresno and Bakersfield because that's mostly where it was concentrated in that belt there where they grow a lot of vegetables and it's very arid.
	We did this for two and a half years.
	We looked at soil samples, we looked at water samples, I mean, you name it.
	And we also then looked at lung samples from patients that were, you know, given to us and sort of did these isolation studies.
	The isolation studies are identical to how you do them in virology.
	It's the same procedure, the filtration, the centrifugation, looking at it under a microscope and doing the Koch's postulates.
	And we didn't find anything.
	We didn't find any spores.
	We didn't find any fungal hyphae.
	And fungi are much bigger, you know, between 1 micrometer to 13 micrometers.
	So you can actually look at them under a compound or light microscope.
	You don't even need a scanning electron microscope.
	Yeah, so that's, not to interrupt you, but I mean, that's what I thought was different here about the bacteria, because, you know, I used, because I've been saying, you know, I could isolate a bacteria culture in my bedroom with very limited equipment, because you can see it with your naked eye, and you can pick out the culture that's uniform, and you can then look at it under the microscope, and you do see uniform Cellular stuff.
	What we think of as bacteria, that you can see these are the bacteria.
	But you're saying in this situation, you couldn't identify it in the soils?
	It's not just the soils.
	So we did the toxicology.
	We sent the soils to a toxicologist in LA.
	I mean, repeatedly.
	I think we sent 200 different samples at different times.
	They didn't find anything in there.
	They should have been able to find something.
	There were spores or hyphae or whatever.
	But then our lab, we looked at actually the lung samples because this is a... Right.
	Coccidioidomycosis is a lung disease caused by supposedly the spores of this fungus.
	Well, we would see it in the bone too, so it does spread.
	But it, yeah, but it primarily, you know, it starts in the lungs and then it... Right, whatever this is.
	Yeah, so we didn't find anything.
	There was nothing there to find.
	I mean... So you looked at, actually, you could see the lesions were the, theoretically, in coccidioidomycosis, like coccidioidomycosis.
	You could see that, but you couldn't tell that the spores were causing, because there's nothing to find, as in, there was no fungal...
	It was just detritus?
	It was just dead cells in those lesions?
	Or what was in them?
	We just found cellular debris.
	Cellular debris, yeah.
	It was RNA, DNA, but it was all human RNA, DNA.
	When you do the biochemical analysis, the lung fluid, that's what we found.
	There was no presence of really any fungi.
	And so we reported this to the California Health Services and they said, oh no, we know it does this.
	Sometimes you just can't find it.
	What does that mean?
	I mean, if you can't find it, if it's not there, it's not causing the problem.
	I mean, this is circular reasoning here.
	In 200 samples.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	I mean, we looked at so many samples.
	I think the soil samples were 200 samples.
	The human samples are probably 75 plus samples over a period of time.
	And this went on for two and a half years.
	This was not a small thing.
	I mean, we did this repeatedly in the course of two and a half years that I worked there.
	And I thought, and Judy says, you know, I bet you this is from the methyl bromide that they're using on strawberries and all the other crops there.
	And we tested methyl bromide.
	We sent it to the same toxicology lab in LA, and they said, yeah, there was a 500% increase in the amount of methyl bromide they were using.
	And methyl bromide has been banned in California, but farmers still use it because it's very effective.
	You know, they dust a bunch of strawberries.
	So you think the dust was getting in their lungs and causing lesions?
	Yeah, and that's what the toxicology lab ended up saying.
	It's the dust that gets in, the particulate, you know, gets into people's lungs and they, you know, have these symptoms.
	And it spreads through the air, you know.
	Right, because I saw in Navy, when I was doing my orthopedic residency, we had cases of what they called coccidioidomycosis of the spine and of the bone and in the lung.
	And these were in young sailors.
	So, they must have gotten it somewhere.
	I mean, whatever it is.
	Of course, other things could look like it.
	So, it started there with me and Judy says, you know, this is why she would always say things like, you know, there's always a problem when people don't accept When we actually prove stuff in the lab and we send stuff to them, the health services department and academia, most of academia just kind of went, well, yeah, I don't know, you know, it's kind of inconclusive.
	How is this inconclusive after two and a half years of doing testing and stuff, you know?
	So what do clinical labs, so we would send out, you know, we would biopsy these lesions and we would send them to the lab and they would grow them in these special media for fungi and they would come back and say positive for blah blah blah blah blah.
	What are they doing?
	They're using, a lot of the labs use antimicrobics and antibiotics.
	Now remember, penicillin is also, you know, it's fungi-based, penicillin antibiotics.
	So they're picking up those things?
	They're picking up a lot of residue from, you know, it's actually causing the fungi to You know the the the whatever tissue they're looking at it's it's essentially it has cytopathic effects on the tissue itself so if you're sending human tissue to to be looked at I'm guessing that's what you were sending is that right?
	Right right we would biopsy the lesions in the in the bone or in the lung right and it would and then they would do something and you know they'd go to the off the It's like a black box to me going off to the lab.
	I mean, but they somehow, they said they cultured out and it would take them weeks.
	They would culture out and then they would say, aha, it's coccidia.
	Yeah.
	So what ends up happening is, you know, they find either bacteria or fungus at the site, but the fungi and the bacteria cleanup crew, they usually, you know, you always find them.
	They're in our bodies anyway.
	But then they're using all these antibiotics and anti-mycotics, exactly what they do in virology.
	They do In pathology.
	I'm not making this up.
	This is how virology got all of this stuff.
	The predicated stuff in virology is from pathology and medical microbiology.
	It just moved over.
	It's the same kind of isolation studies that they do and then they say, oh look, this is causing the disease.
	So how about just fresh smears?
	So let's say you took those lesions out of the lung and haven't people looked at fresh smears and seen something like mycelia or anything?
	No?
	No you don't.
	I have looked at so many just again all you need is a light microscope because fungi and bacteria are big enough you can see it at 30x even at 100x you know.
	Right.
	Which is called HYDRI.
	And you don't see much.
	I mean, they usually, there's movement there, but that doesn't mean there's disease.
	Right.
	You have to prove that.
	And then you have to do Koch's postulates.
	You know, they never do Koch's postulates.
	Even in microbiology, they've stopped doing Koch's postulates altogether.
	Most of microbiology, pathology, virology has all become a field of bioinformatics.
	They do genome sequencing.
	Right, right.
	That's what I've figured out.
	They don't do much in the lab anymore.
	They don't do anything the old-fashioned way like they used to do in the 30s or 40s.
	I mean, literally, with bioinformatics in the last 30 years, bioinformatics has completely changed the biology.
	Everything is now done on the computer.
	Most microbiologists, you know, they don't do much in the lab.
	They just do everything on the computer.
	It's all computer-based.
	Yeah, which removes you from reality.
	Yeah, so you're not really seeing what's going on in the lab with the, you know, with the tissue, the cultures.
	And in that, in that sense, Judy was totally different.
	She was extremely old-fashioned.
	So the training I got out of her, Was very old-fashioned.
	I mean, something that you would have done in the 20s or 30s, you know, the very old-fashioned way.
	And she got a lot of flack for it from the molecular biologists and cell biologists and other, you know, the other departments at Santa Barbara City College were very upset with her.
	They said, you know, there's something called bioinformatics and genome sequencing.
	You should really look into that.
	And she says, no, thank you.
	I'll just do it the old-fashioned way.
	Right.
	And so I got that kind of training and then I started seeing stuff that just didn't make any sense.
	I mean everything was contaminated.
	So just for the audience bioinformatics let me make sure I get bioinformatics is the ability to take the code of the genome that God's given you know amino acid code that's like AGCT for the different amino acid The nucleotide sequences.
	And then convert them to digits, like zeros and ones, and then you can computerize the whole genome, and then you can play with it all you want on the computer.
	Yeah, you can sequence, and you've got these, you know, they do short sequences, long sequences, depending on how you want to do the sequences, and then you just sort of tape them together.
	And I think that's what they call the de novo Alignment kind of sequencing.
	And you do these in, and then you put it on a database like BLASTP, BLASTPs for proteins.
	So, you know, then they have another one, which is I think the short nucleotide sequences, which is called BLASTN, but not a lot of stuff.
	If it's 50 or I think 50 base pairs or less, they put it on something like BLASTN, which is the nucleotide sequencing database.
	Right, I've used that one.
	I've used that one to look at what was on the PCR test and it came all human genomes.
	Oh, they're testing it to us.
	Oh, this is great.
	I can't prove that now because they've scrubbed that off the internet.
	But that's when they put the sequences out and it was from three places.
	It was from the Louis Pasteur Institute in France.
	It was the Drosten Group and the CDC.
	And they each, I think, had, it was 18 different sequences.
	So they each had like three different sequences.
	You know, of two different areas they were testing on SARS-CoV-2, and it came out to 18.
	I tested 12.
	I just said, I'm going to run these, now I know how to use BLAST, I'm going to run those through the BLAST.
	And I quit after 12, because I said, if 12 are still all, it was like human genome, homo sapiens, gene 8, homo sapiens, gene 2, whatever it was, it was all, and I said, What the heck?
	Yep.
	I couldn't believe it.
	So, all right, so let me just ask you now about that.
	So, let's back up in time.
	Do you think that they, I mean, did they sequence the human genome?
	Do we basically... You know, they said they did at the Medical Research Council in Cambridge.
	They said they did.
	I don't know.
	I guess they did.
	I mean, they can sequence, because, because I'll tell you, since we talked, I looked at Feng Zhang, I'm probably mispronouncing it, Feng Zhang's lab in MIT.
	And if you look at what it says on there, you know, this is the guy that's Thought to be one of the world's leaders in the ability to manipulate the genetic material and, you know, insert, delete, whatever.
	And honestly, that's not what his PhD research was in.
	Optical, I want to say optical, it's an optical neurology or something like that.
	But anyway, it's using light to transform nerve signals.
	Because they buy light-sensitive ion channels and light-sensitive enzymes.
	And it actually says, we can't really, you know, when they talk about gene splicing, we can't really do that.
	What we can do is delete genes.
	And I'm going, oh my gosh, that's what Dr. Watts said!
	That's what I...
	Yeah, the CRISPR-Cas9 comes from bacteria, okay?
	And essentially, when they were using these penicillin-based antibiotics, what was happening is a lot of the bacteria were using an enzyme called beta-lactamase.
	To essentially become, to resist the effects of the antibiotic.
	And the CRISPR-Cas9 technology, they picked it up from the beta-lactamase enzyme.
	It is beta-lactamase enzyme activity that causes the Cas9 part of it.
	The CRISPR is, I think, the cutting and the Cas9 is then, you know, pasting and so on.
	But they don't know how the bacteria do it.
	They have no idea.
	It's so limited.
	This is what I mean.
	Nature is so elegant and so complex.
	These people, they think they're gods.
	They have a god complex.
	They will never figure it out.
	We don't know how these mechanisms really work.
	And so, I mean, you know, to do CRISPR-Cas9 and say, oh, I took an Aedes aegypti mosquito and then I sterilized, you know, completely let the female go infertile.
	It's hard to do that.
	This is how they wanted to do that with Anopheles mosquitoes.
	They wanted to completely make it infertile so it doesn't spread malaria in Africa.
	You can't do that.
	It's not doable.
	You can try, but it's not going to work because, you know, there are other ways nature sort of goes around the technique.
	I mean, you, you, and you don't even know how things work in nature.
	So.
	So, you know, so I could believe that, you know, that they're, that what they're really doing is they're using toxins.
	Like there's, there was a study.
	This is the thing that really got me in, in looking at this is are there viruses or not?
	And all this genetic stuff.
	There was a study done in Australia in 2015, and it was published in 2016, and it was called Self-Disseminating Vaccines for Emerging Infectious Diseases.
	And the point of the study, the idea was, and I guess this part's true, is that in Australia, they have these mouse outbreaks.
	You know, one day the farmer goes out to his barn and the whole thing's just filled with mice.
	We don't have that in the Midwest, but that apparently happens in Australia, a strange place.
	But anyway, so they thought, well, what are we going to do?
	We can't get rid of them with traps and shoot them and all that sort of stuff, doesn't work.
	Oh, we know.
	Let's make a self-disseminating, sterilizing agent.
	And so they called it a vaccine, and they got some, and what they claim they did was used a replicant-deficient adenovirus.
	Oh, they used actually a different virus.
	They used a CMV virus.
	But this is put together exactly the way they claim the J&J vaccine is put together.
	They used a... A viral vector?
	A viral vector that's specific to the mouse, in this case they use CMV virus, and then they made a, you know, an artificial lipoprotein capsule.
	They put a little bit of this genetic material as the interior payload, and they claim that when they injected it into the mice, this genetic Vaccine went to the mouse ovaries, destroyed the ovaries, and then started being shed by the mice.
	And so, when they let the mice run around outside again, they put them back in nature, and they rubbed up being very gregarious.
	They rubbed up against other mice.
	Other mice then acquired this stuff, again, which they claim is genetic, but then propagated in the mice, and it sterilized them.
	And then they rubbed up against even a bigger group, and it sterilized them, and then it kind of petered out in nature.
	Nope, doesn't work that way.
	That can't work that way, but what it could be is the whole genetic thing could be nonsense, and what you're doing is giving you a toxic nanoparticle.
	Yes, that thing spreads, and it would spread to a degree, and then it would peter out in nature.
	Yeah, so that sounds like what you're saying.
	Yeah, chemical, so either a synthetic chemical, like a synthetic lipid nanoparticle with a bunch of nanoparticles in it, you know, like in this case, reduced graphene oxide is what they're using.
	That's all they can do.
	They do not have the ability to tweak biological... You can't.
	It's not possible, okay?
	We've tried and tried and tried and tried.
	It doesn't work that way.
	What are graduate students doing?
	How do you take a virus, which is 70 to 80 nanometers in size, hollow it out, and put a payload in there?
	I mean, How do you do that?
	I mean, I don't know.
	You can't even see a virus, okay?
	What technology are you going to use to use a gene gun at 70 to 80 nanometers?
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	Right.
	Now, when you're saying gene gun, what you're saying is what they can do is they can transmit plasmids.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And a plasmid, just for the audience, a plasmid is a little donut-shaped circular DNA.
	It's extracellular DNA within a bacteria.
	Within a bacteria.
	And that's what we knew, that they transmitted these plasmids back and forth between themselves, the bacteria, to create antibiotic resistance.
	That's one of the things you study in medical school, even back in the 70s.
	But we can now harvest those plasmids and inject them into things.
	That's basically what you're saying.
	And that's if you go to a lot of these biotech companies on you know any and you're buying these SARS-CoV-2 or whatever they're selling these oligonucleotides and again they're plasmid based they're put into a plasmid and then they're you know you but their gene they're just fragments it's not the entire genome of SARS-CoV-2.
	Right.
	It's not the 30,000 to 40,000 base pair genome.
	It's like whatever fragments.
	And I'm guessing it's that human fragment because that's what the PCR test is programmed to do is find that 40 or 50 base pairs from Wuhan.
	You know, the UH, whatever that strain was that they originally used.
	And then all you do is just change the ATCG.
	And in this case, because it's an RNA virus, quote unquote, you just, the T, which is the thiamine, is changed.
	It's uracil.
	Right, pseudouridinol or something.
	Yeah, it's uracil.
	They can do single gene...
	They can do single nucleotide replacement.
	Correct.
	In other words, they can change these things, but they can't do precise insertion into the human genome, is what you're saying.
	Yeah, and all of this nonsense, this BS that we've been told that we have all this technology to weaponize stuff and all.
	No, I mean the Chinese, I'm sorry if I'm going to sound offensive here, they can't make a can opener.
	You think they can weaponize a virus?
	Are you kidding me?
	Come on folks, get a grip here!
	Okay, well,
	So I'll tell you so one of the things that um and I you know I'm like so many I mean I got suckered in on this too if this is what it is so so there was a paper that it was done it was a um uh it was a mouse study and they claimed they took the S1 subunit now this is what I've been saying and see if and does this and if this is even possible I've been saying I think this 30,000 base pair SARS-CoV-2 is just BS that it's just not made all that up that's just
	Yeah, that's just computer nonsense.
	Yeah, it's computer magic.
	Right, but that you can do a short sequence, like they claim that the S1 subunit, and they actually sell it on the internet, the S1 subunit of SARS-CoV-2.
	And so this study said, they claim, that they took the S1, a pure stuff of the S1 subunit, and they inject it into the tails of mice.
	And they showed that those mice became ill With the same kind of pathology that we see in dead humans after the COVID.
	They had perivascular inflammation in the brain.
	They had, I don't know, myocarditis, whatever it was.
	All the different things that they showed happened in humans.
	They claimed we could reproduce in a rat with this thing.
	What's that all about?
	I don't know.
	There's no spike protein, so that S1 subunit or whatever, because those are the spike proteins, actually.
	Right, but if they can sequence backwards, if they can take something and genetically sequence things, can they then reproduce short sequences or isolate short sequences, you think, from anything?
	They could isolate them, however, I don't think those sequences do anything.
	I mean, remember, everything works in tandem in our body.
	I mean, even proteins work in tandem with everything else in our body.
	You can't just isolate a protein and put it into somebody else and then expect it to do, you know, some kind of magic.
	This is what I mean.
	But it could act as a toxin, maybe.
	It might act, yeah, possibly, but you know, again, it's very, very, it is very difficult to do anything with biological stuff out of its milieu, okay?
	Once you isolate something and you put it in something else, it doesn't work most of the time.
	This is why they use chemical toxins and synthetic lipid nanoparticles and stuff.
	They have to poison you some way.
	Now they can do that with chemistry, can't do it with biology.
	Biology is a whole different ballgame.
	I mean, they have a system of study now which is called proteomics, which is the study of just proteins.
	And they haven't done anything in proteomics.
	I mean, you know, we used to do polyacrylamide gels, With, you know, running down proteins, exactly like an agarose gel for DNA and RNA.
	And, you know, it was most of these things just useless.
	I mean, all you find is all the big proteins flow down and all the smaller proteins, you know, are at the top there.
	I mean, this is how you see it when you put it into ethidium bromide, you know, and you use the UV light and you go, oh, okay, so you get a read.
	So what?
	So, I mean, my point is, I mean, we used to do useless Useless experiments in the lab.
	This is another one.
	We used to take caenorhabditis elegans.
	It's a roundworm, okay?
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And nematode.
	And we used to inject something called PGLO proteins, the bioluminescent proteins.
	Some guy, I think, some person from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Johns Hopkins got a He got a Nobel Prize for this because he extracted these proteins from the jellies, sea jellies.
	Right, they glow, yeah.
	Yeah, they glow, so they're green ones and, you know, they're called red ones, they're called PGLO proteins.
	And we would inject these into the tails of these Caenorhabditis elegans worms and they would glow.
	And I would always ask, so what is the utilitarian value of doing this?
	What exactly are we proving here?
	Oh no, look how cool it is!
	It glows!
	Okay, great.
	So what are we, two-year-old children, to see all this stuff?
	I mean, we're scientists.
	Why are we doing these nonsensical experiments just to prove that, you know, the bud of the worm glows?
	So what are the scientific ramifications of this?
	What are we going to use it for?
	Nothing.
	Zippo.
	Well, you know, there was a book, I don't know if you've ever seen this, but, you know, people don't realize that Michael Crichton, who wrote Jurassic Park, was actually a physician.
	And I love Michael Crichton, because one of my favorite quotes is, he says, if it's consensus, it's not science.
	If it's science, it's not consensus.
	That's not the way science works.
	Exactly!
	Yeah, but he has a book called Next, and he talks about in that book Next, and he's thinking about this kind of genetic engineering, and he's talking about in the future, this future world that he creates, that they have fish that swim by and have advertisements using these p-gloproteins on them that they say, you know, shell oil or Pfizer or whatever, you know, on the animal.
	But you know, so they can chemically alter stuff, synthetically alter stuff, biological proteins, DNA and RNA.
	I don't think so.
	Because we don't even understand biology.
	In order to manipulate something, you have to understand how it works.
	I mean, truly understand how it works.
	In favor of that, the guy that did those potatoes, the GMO potatoes, he wrote a book which now is unavailable because they don't want you to read it, I guess.
	I heard an interview with him, it was a transcript, and he said basically We knew as much about the workings of DNA as most people know about reading ancient Sanskrit.
	It was very, very crude.
	And what they did is they made potatoes that don't Apparently rot on the counter or in the store because that shelf life is an important thing for the food industry.
	But what they did is they simply simply kept, you know, hitting these things somehow their genetics until they knocked out the gene that made melanin.
	So, it stopped the potatoes from looking spoiled, but they were still chemically spoiling.
	Now, we just can't see it.
	Isn't that comforting?
	Yeah again very crude experimentation the kind of stuff they and you you know people you ask me what do they do in labs they spend money on nonsense another one so they went from caenorhabditis elegans to zebrafish and the the trend the way the trend works in molecular biology so biochemistry became molecular biology okay all and all the biochemists suddenly became molecular biologists
	And this trend started, I think, in the 70s or 80s when Dr. Stanley Brenner, he got a Nobel Prize for Molecular Biology.
	He worked with Watson and Crick in Cambridge at the Medical Research Council there.
	These are the bigwigs.
	When they start a trend, then everybody follows like lemmings.
	And Brenner was working at the Salk Institute, and he started working with zebrafish.
	Because until then, people were working with the fruit fly, Drosophila, then they moved to Caenorhabditis elegans, then they dropped Caenorhabditis elegans, and they moved to zebrafish, the eye of the zebrafish particularly, okay?
	Um and because Brenner started doing work on uh the zebrafish so all the molecular biologists moved that direction and then they started doing these useless things like pumping it with steroids or doing you know again p-glo proteins and the eye would glow and it just not I mean it had no practical Utilitarian purpose.
	This is where they spend all the money from NIH or NSF, whatever.
	All this grant money goes on nonsensical research.
	I kid you not, because I was in the lab, I know.
	You know, this is the kind of stuff they do.
	They used to do this with yeast DNA.
	Now, yeast is a passage.
	You know, nobody works with yeast anymore.
	They used to work with Saccharomyces cerevisiae.
	They don't do that anymore.
	Now they've moved on to bigger things.
	It wonders who's driving the show.
	I mean, I kind of have my ideas, but because you've kind of answered the question, what people, when you say this, when you say this kind of stuff, like there are no viruses, it's just, you know, bioinformatics and nonsense.
	They say, well, what are all those graduate students doing?
	You know how?
	Yes, you might have the bad guys on the top that are lying that know there are no viruses, but keep the pharmaceutical vaccine industry going.
	But what about those graduate students?
	They're not getting paid garbage to do this.
	Why would they lie?
	The graduate students are completely hoodwinked and brainwashed and they're just following.
	This is what graduate students and postdocs do, okay?
	They need a job.
	They have to hang on there.
	They know that the experiments are nonsense because I wasn't the only one asking these questions.
	I mean, I was a little bit older.
	I was in my early 30s when I actually went into the sciences and then in 2016, when I finally got my PhD from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Because I got it fairly late but I was always questioning stuff and but people within the lab you know other postdocs and I mean other graduate students were rolling their eyes.
	Some of them questioned it and then but as a beside you know after class they'd say God why are we wasting our time doing all this crap?
	What are we really doing?
	I said well you know get your degree and do something useful with it.
	Because everybody just kind of falls in line because you need a job, you need work, you have at some point you'll go stick yourself into some university lab, you know, slave over there, be slave labor for four or five, six years, get a really good recommendation from your principal investigator, and then maybe you'll climb the ladder.
	Most of the grad students want to be professors.
	So then they have a cushy job where they just have a lab of their own, and then they do the same thing to other slave labor, which is other graduate students as they come through.
	This is what has been happening for the last 50, 60 plus years in almost every single lab.
	Not just in this country, but abroad.
	And abroad, it used to not be that bad, especially in the UK.
	But when the United States does it, everybody just follows.
	Everybody follows.
	They look at the United States as the shining beacon on the hill, and then everybody, you know, just kind of follows what the United States does.
	I kid you not, I've traveled a lot outside the, you know, outside the United States, and people just follow the Western model.
	It's go, okay, well, they're doing this, and, you know, we should probably do this as well.
	Wow, that makes so much sense because, I mean, I know it's very compartmentalized, and even in medicine, you think that we're doing real-world things because we're treating patients, but I know one of the surgeons, and I didn't do this type of surgery, but the total joint surgeon, this is my favorite story, You know, they've always been anti-coagulating their patients after a total hip or total knee because they were taught that's the way it had to be, and the science is settled, all the different things.
	Until one guy, this guy from Texas, is a big total joint surgeon, and he looked at it and he found out that that That premise that everybody needs anti-coagulation, which they weren't doing some places and they didn't have bad outcomes, but he said it was based on like nine patients back in the early 60s.
	It really, it really didn't have the underpinning, but because of this compartmentalization, I think that's, that's, so they're just, they're seeing a little, those graduate students are seeing this, they're told to, you know, figure out the rat testicle hormone and that's what they do.
	And they don't see the big picture that it goes nowhere.
	I think, you know, in science, it is a rat race.
	It truly is.
	If you think like everybody else, then you'll get a job.
	You have your own lab.
	You can be the slave, the next slave, the next generation slave driver.
	There are very, very, very, very few people like Judy Meyer, very few.
	I mean, they come once in a lifetime.
	I was lucky enough to work with somebody like that because I, this, and I was, I've been a firecracker my entire life.
	I mean, I didn't agree with my dad on a lot of things.
	And my, I mean, my dad and I- - You got raised right. - Vociferous arguments, even as a child, because I questioned everything, even as a child.
	I said, this doesn't make sense, Dad.
	I mean, we'd sit at the dinner table and, you know, we'd talk science.
	And I said, I don't think so.
	I think it's this.
	And my dad would say, you, what do you, what do you mean it's this?
	It's in the textbooks.
	I said, the textbooks are full of crap.
	How do you know?
	Have we done the tests?
	Have we actually tested this in the lab?
	So I ended up being with somebody identical to me who would question everything and Judy was one of those.
	I was lucky to have met her because once she died in 2012, she died of ovarian cancer.
	They shut down the lab and they brought somebody else in And we didn't have a job anymore because we didn't fit into that lab atmosphere, me and three other people who were working there.
	We just had to find other places where we could work or do stuff, whatever.
	Because if you don't have the same characteristics as your boss, It becomes impossible to work in a lab.
	You have to think alike, because if you don't think alike, then forget about it.
	If you're just going to be another idiot, a cog in the wheel, you don't do any thinking.
	You're not doing science.
	You're just doing consensus.
	I don't know if you know who Arthur Robinson is, but Arthur Robinson is a PhD in chemistry.
	I think he used to be the vitamin C Guru.
	Anyway, he was the partner of the Nobel Laureate.
	Oh, Linus Pauling?
	Linus Pauling's partner for a number of years.
	But anyway, Arthur Robinson has five children, all of whom have PhDs in hard sciences, like nuclear physics and physics and chemistry and things like that.
	But, you know, he dates the downfall of science, really, scientific inquiry, to when government funded everything.
	Because then we get into this exact thing that you're talking about.
	Yeah, you cannot do anything without an NIH grant.
	And I don't mean just funding for the state universities, the public universities.
	Even Stanford gets 90% of its funding, although it's a private university.
	Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Cornell.
	Cornell, I think, is a mix, right?
	It's a private and public mix.
	I think that's how Cornell works.
	But all of these, they get funding from the NIH, so then you're beholden to what the NIH tells you to do.
	If you don't do what the NIH tells you to do, you ain't gonna get any funding.
	They'll just axe you.
	They'll close down your lab.
	And most of the times, it's the university that closes down the lab.
	It's not even NIH.
	Right, no, but it's, but it's, and that's why I say Fauci is essentially the bag man of this mob, because he controls, just like a bag man and a mob, if you don't do what they say, they threaten to break your legs.
	In this case, if you don't use remdesivir, and if you talk outside the protocols that the NIH and CDC have set up for COVID, we're going to take your funding.
	And that's not just at the universities, it's at major, like it's at the university hospitals, it's at other hospitals, because they've done it now.
	They've got control.
	The same people that control the NIH control the Department of Health and Human Services that fund Medicare.
	So, if you don't give all your people these toxic vaccines, we're not going to give you your Medicare dollars.
	I mean, that's essentially what they're threatening hospitals, even little hospitals.
	Because I couldn't figure out why the little hospitals were going along with this.
	They don't do research.
	Well, that's how.
	They got everybody.
	And they got them through these bag men that just took out their money.
	And that's, you know, that's exactly what That's how we got there in the 20th century when we murdered people in World War II in medical experiments.
	It's exactly the same way.
	And you know, I should probably finish off my story quickly, but how I got into virology.
	But because Judy essentially says, you know, she essentially kept saying, she says, Purnima, you need to look into this.
	It's so farcical.
	I said, Judy, I'm not going into virology.
	I don't even like virology.
	If it's anything like medical microbiology, forget about it.
	She says, no, no, go in there.
	And I bet you they're doing it even worse.
	And so she made phone calls.
	She made phone calls to Dr. David Dunn at the University of Cambridge and he gave her the idea.
	He says, you know what?
	Why doesn't she apply to the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine?
	Because all they do is infectious diseases.
	So I did and I got in and that's, that's, that was it.
	You know, I, and I'm, I left Santa Barbara, I left California and moved to Austin actually in 2016.
	And so I continued, once I got into the program, I continued, I was already working on, you know, stuff here.
	And with the London School of Hygiene, you can actually, you go there every three months, you can work remotely and you can do all around practicums there, or you can do field research.
	And I did some field research in Africa, actually in Rwanda and parts of Tanzania.
	Like for three, four years, you know, for a few months at a time.
	We actually did field research.
	They do better field research in Africa than they do in the United States because they actually collect samples, they do it the old-fashioned way, take it into a lab, test everything, you know, so we actually did a lot of that stuff.
	And then in 2016 I finally got my PhD in in virology and in immunology.
	It was it was it was swallowing it was like swallowing a crown of thorns because I got along with just one professor.
	Everybody else was I was constantly arguing and you know it was it was just a What did you do?
	I'm curious what your thesis was in, given all this.
	Actually, my thesis was not in virology.
	It was in malaria research, believe it or not.
	They said malaria patients had co-infections with HIV and AIDS.
	And I was like, what are you talking about?
	There's nothing called HIV.
	And essentially they wouldn't let me, they would not, they would not let me do my PhD thesis in that.
	And I said, fine, you know what, I'm just going to drop out and leave.
	And then one of these professors who really liked me, he says, boy, you, you really are something else.
	I'll pull some strings and I'll push this through.
	And so I finally defended my thesis in it was malarial and co-infections with HIV.
	And essentially I said that HIV doesn't exist and malaria is, we don't even know if malaria is actually caused by the Plasmodium species.
	We have to look into that.
	That was my thesis.
	Wow.
	I mean, I just, I, I, they, those people hate me, I think, over there.
	I mean, there are six people, there's a panel of six people in the UK, they do it a little differently.
	When I was defending my thesis, you know, doing the questions and stuff, and I saw three of them just shake their head and go, Miss Wagh, you know, I, I, are you a real, are you really a scientist?
	Is this a joke?
	I mean, why are you even here?
	I mean, they would just sort of, They just did not like the way I did things.
	They did not like the fact that I was questioning.
	HIV.
	And I mean, they were just completely shocked.
	What kind of a student does this kind of thing?
	Why are you even here?
	If you're questioning, you know, if you're questioning stuff, this consensus.
	We've already proven this exists.
	And I said, and I said to them, I said, listen, if I fail and I don't get my thesis through, I'll go my merry way.
	You know, that's fine.
	You know, and it's interesting that HIV, and I looked this up, and this does appear to be the case, that the big breakout in America in six or seven cities of HIV was six months after they tested hepatitis B vaccine on the gay community.
	Yep, exactly.
	And in Africa, you know, this is the other thing.
	When I started smelling a rat, and this is even before COVID, I started hearing the term emerging.
	I one time thought about London School of Infectious Disease when I was in the Navy because we had an agreement with them because we did a lot of infectious disease research around the world through forward, you know, patrolling kind of stuff.
	Anyway, you know, and I started and so I realized that up until the mid 80s, when I was a resident, I never heard the term emerging infectious diseases.
	And I've subsequently come to believe that emerging infectious diseases is a term they use to cover up the effects of their bioweapons programs in third world countries.
	You hit the nail right on its head.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, good.
	I'm not off.
	Because, you know, they never can quite come up.
	It's all very murky.
	Like, you're talking about what you know very technically, and I don't know, but in looking at whether you're talking about HIV or... I looked recently at Marburg.
	Marburg is completely artificially created.
	And a bunch of other things.
	All these diseases that they seem are coming out of the jungle.
	Suddenly, you know, they had all these excuses for it.
	Whether, you know, my favorite was, well, we paid the Kinshasa Highway and that allowed AIDS to come out of the jungle and go to Kenya and the big port cities.
	I mean, okay, it sounds logical, but then when you go back, they can't find an animal reservoir.
	They can't really pinpoint how it happened.
	They don't really, you know, and, and this whole thing like Marburg, in the city of Marburg, how did it start?
	In a lab with people working with green monkeys, you know, who knows what happened?
	I'm not, I don't want to run that down, but there've only, there've been less than 600 cases in the world, and yet everybody knows the term Marburg, and we have people afraid of monkeypox.
	Oh my gosh!
	Exactly.
	I mean, even things like malaria, okay?
	Dr. Patrick Manson, Sir Patrick Manson, or Dr. Patrick Manson, he's the one who actually established the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
	I mean, it's the oldest school.
	I think it started in 1880 or 1890, I think, is when they established the school in London.
	But even if you look at malaria, I don't think there's really any proof that Plasmodium, you know, the Plasmodium species, which is a protozoan, goes through the Anopheles mosquitoes as a vector and causes malaria.
	We don't know that, really.
	I mean, there's actually more evidence that a massive amount of B vitamin, B12 and B6, Um, and folate deficiency, massive B deficiencies.
	Okay.
	Which most people in the, in the, and why is this only in the developing world?
	Why is it not here?
	Because in Africa and India and Southeast Asia, people, you know, don't eat properly or they're malnourished and they don't get their vitamin B. Their vitamin B levels are very, very low.
	I know that my vitamin B levels are very low and I have something called, they say I have something called beta thalassemia minor.
	Wait a minute, how do you know beta thalassemia minor has anything to do with malaria?
	Oh no, people who have beta thalassemia minor or heterozygous for that, they don't get malaria.
	I said, how do you know that?
	I mean, have we established a causality here?
	I mean, do we know?
	How do you know that this protozoan actually causes malaria?
	Have we done any testing?
	Oh no, yeah, we did some testing here and there and you can't find any papers.
	There's no conclusive papers.
	However, there are certain papers when they were shoved under the carpet where they were showing a clear causation between vitamin B deficiencies, all the vitamin Bs, all of them, the nine of them, but specifically vitamin B12, folate, and B6.
	Those three specifically The deficiency, even small deficiencies, causing malaria.
	Yeah.
	So, it could be a deficiency disease, you know.
	As many things are.
	Yeah.
	So, if you're not getting enough vitamin B12 or folate, because what happens is, they notice when people who had, for example, malaria or, you know, signs of malaria, when they were given B vitamins, they suddenly got well.
	Right.
	I mean, they just flourished.
	Yeah, and that's what, you know, I've been saying this about monkeypox from the get-go.
	I said, when this started breaking out in gay men, I said, and people started freaking out about monkeypox, I said, come on guys, this is just nonsense.
	These guys have an immune deficiency baseline, many of them, or some of them, because of lifestyle.
	I'm not making any value judgments, that's just a fact.
	And then their biggest failure is that they constantly believe the government and run and get every vaccine they offer them.
	And so they took these vaccines and now it damaged their immune system further and pox is their body being toxified and trying to get rid of it.
	Subsequently, I don't know if you saw this, but I had never heard this, but I knew that there was something wrong about the whole premise of smallpox, too.
	And when I was a medical student, and this is like 1976, the world has changed significantly.
	In 1976, vaccines weren't profitable.
	And this is what my pediatric professor told us in a lecture my first year in medical school at the University of Rochester, New York.
	He said, vaccines didn't stop childhood diseases, plumbers did.
	That's right.
	- Yeah, his point was, it's sanitation and nutrition.
	He didn't add the nutrition part, but he did it later.
	And it's exactly what you were saying, that if you, in Africa, if you gave people, you know, when they tell you all these kids are dying of measles, they're adding in the African kids that are poorly nourished. - Correct. - And if it turns out you give them vitamin A, vitamin D, you know, they don't die of measles either.
	But I read, or I saw this video recently on Telegram, and it really, smallpox, all these poxes are probably the same idea, that there are toxins coming out.
	And this guy claims, if you really look at it, and I've gone back, I've now got, I don't know if you've ever seen this book, but it's Majors classic hit, Descriptions of disease and it's very interesting about what the guys that are so now I've got it pegged for malaria.
	I'm going to read malaria, but they but it's about what what before all this bioinformatics junk they actually were looking at patients and what was happening and they come into some pretty interesting stuff, but he said.
	You know, we blamed, we claimed that smallpox vaccine took care of that problem too, but really it's a potassium deficiency.
	And he said that why milkmaids, you know, this whole idea of Edward Jenner being the great hero of mankind, it turns out that in the, in the 1700s, when we had all the smallpox outbreaks, it was the minor minimum and food short, there was food scarcity all around the world.
	Plus these big Icelandic volcanoes were spewing this ash all over the place.
	25% of the Icelanders died because their cow herds all died and they were starving.
	People were starving.
	And so we got these pox diseases.
	And if you, and the, but the milkmaids didn't get it.
	Cause why?
	They were drinking milk that had high potassium.
	I think you're right.
	I think that there.
	And so, you know, that there are people out there that know this.
	I just, I think, I don't know if I sent it to you.
	I just recently wrote this article, this big thing on, on 1918 on the pub.
	I read that.
	I saw that.
	And it's exactly, it makes you think that they've known this for a long time, that there are people out there that are, it's the same players if you look at 1918 and now, and they're driving this false agenda so they can poison us.
	Yep.
	I mean, I know that sounds paranoid, but it just, they're giving us toxins in the form of these vaccines and in other ways through medications, and they're not paying attention at all.
	I mean, you know, why is it we, Honestly, as a physician, and in a well-trained physician, I believe, in a fine medical school, I can't remember having a lecture on nutrition.
	I probably did, but I can't remember it.
	It wasn't memorable.
	It wasn't something they emphasized.
	I'll give you an example that happened to me, and this is from personal experience.
	I have a uterine fibroid, okay, and it was pretty massive.
	My fibroid was probably about 12 centimeters in size, and it was an intramural fibroid.
	It was growing in the wall of the uterus, and it was actually, it started in the fundus, so the top part of the uterus, and then it spread.
	I mean, it got so big that it became transmural.
	That means, you know, the entire uterus became just badly shaped because it just grew, you know, all over the place.
	And I tried everything and what did help was natokinase and serrapeptase you know the enzymes and what really really really helped I started with 5000 iu of d3 vitamin d3 and k2
	And then I upped it to about 25,000 IU of vitamin D3 and then I upped it after about a month I upped it to 50,000 and I stayed on it for eight months and I went and did an ultrasound after about a year of you know being on this
	I had my fibroid had was now the size probably about one centimeter inside yeah yeah I mean it's that small and the the my GP you know here in Santa Barbara he says so what did you do how did it go how How'd you get rid of it?
	Go from 12 centimeters to one centimeter.
	He said, what did you do?
	I said, you know, I went on two things.
	One is the proteolytic enzymes and a very high dose of vitamin D3 plus K2.
	But then I took magnesium because D3 needs magnesium, zinc, and you have to take boron, you know, with it.
	Um so I was taking five milligrams of boron and it was amazing.
	I was I was charting you know to see if this experiment would work and it was a necrosis.
	I mean it had gotten so small it was literally just dying away.
	I mean the blood vessels had died and everything you know and And they because they wanted to do a hysterectomy, right?
	That's what they wanted.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And you know, that's what that's what we talked to them about for a long time.
	In orthopedics, I mean, I'm a spine surgeon, I can tell you, I've been in medicine for 45 years.
	And since 1983, I've been looking at at x-rays of spines and spine surgery primarily after 89.
	I can tell you, you know, you can look at x-rays and you can see that these women that are coming in with all these spinal fractures, it's not osteoporosis a lot of times, it's osteomalacia or vitamin D deficiency, adult rickets.
	It's not brain surgery.
	Yes, you could biopsy them and prove that, but you don't have to.
	You can see the difference on the x-ray.
	We've known this in orthopedics for a long time and so Here we are, and what I told my patients, literally my whole professional career since 1987, is take 10,000 units, international units, a day of vitamin D. There's no overdose at that level.
	And the Okinawan tribesmen that routinely work into their hundreds are getting 30,000 from the sun every day.
	But we don't live at those atmospheres, or those altitudes.
	We live in, we shower, we wear clothes.
	We don't have that availability.
	So we knew this absolutely there was this is not questionable science and yet the Institute of Medicine in America is was still recommending 400 international units which would barely cover childhood rickets.
	I when I said I was taking 50,000 IU but of course you have to take a commensurate increase in MK-7 you know the MK-7 but then you have to take the other co-factors as well like zinc and Right.
	You know magnesium and stuff.
	When I said that and Dr. Scott Saunders, he's my GP, he was white as a sheet.
	He says that can't be.
	This just can't be.
	Maybe I know and he called Sansum here that I went to Sansum Clinic.
	That's where I got my ultrasound and he called them and he says are you sure you this is the right This is the right ultrasound.
	And they said, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It is the right ultrasound.
	He says, this can't be.
	How can a 12 centimeter fibroid that was so massive, you know, have now come down to literally, I think it was 1.1 centimeters.
	It was so tiny.
	And he, I said to him, I said, Dr. Saunders, you're a medical doctor.
	I'm, I'm a scientist.
	I'm telling you it's vitamin D3.
	It does amazing things.
	He says, you took 50,000 IU.
	You know, that's toxic.
	I said, no, it's not toxic.
	That's what they all say.
	They always say it's toxic.
	I say, show me a toxicity.
	In people not on dialysis possibly, but in real people.
	I said, I'm not dead.
	I've done my entire kidney profile and everything.
	I said, you know, look at me.
	I'm healthy as a horse.
	In fact, my numbers are even better than they were before.
	Right.
	Well, I don't think so.
	I think there's a problem here.
	We just, I think we have to look at this again.
	I said, look, the fibroid is gone.
	I don't need to do a hysterectomy.
	I don't need to remove my, you know, my womb.
	I don't need to do anything.
	You probably need to start telling your patients about this stuff.
	Why don't you read about vitamin D?
	Actually, there's a lot out there.
	Yeah, you know.
	There's actually a paper that came out in 2019, I think, in the Caspian Journal of Internal Medicine or something.
	These were researchers in Iran and they said vitamin D3 has a significant impact and they actually did it on everything and women, okay, not on mice or anything.
	On women who's they and they followed them for a year, year and a half, and they gave them these very high doses of vitamin D3.
	And a lot of these women, their fibroids shrunk significantly, like by 60% or something.
	And still to this, and you can find that, but then you have to dig, you could find it.
	And now they've sort of, you know, if you do a Google search or something, you have to look 15 pages down, and then you'll see it somewhere.
	And you know, they kind of hide it in little Right!
	And they put it behind paywalls.
	So the other thing we're facing is what they don't want us to know about.
	They love evidence-based medicine.
	They want, you know, I had to testify at a hearing to try and help this guy get his license back.
	And they said, well, doctor, you believe in evidence-based medicine.
	And I said, well, yeah, but the problem is you can't get at the evidence.
	It's either being censored or you put it behind a paywall.
	My favorite paywall is called Science Direct.
	I mean, really?
	Come on, guys!
	I mean, you put the key, you know, you'll go down some rabbit hole of science and you're looking at something and you finally get to where the meat of the matter is.
	Boom!
	It's locked behind a paywall.
	Unless I buy $100 for every article or whatever, I can't get it.
	Now, the big boys at the university can get it, but the people treating patients and thinking about these things.
	And you know, vitamin D, there were articles years ago from Japan about how vitamin D was Getting your vitamin D levels up was more effective than taking a flu shot in preventing influenza illness, whatever we think that is.
	I don't think it's a virus now, but whatever it is.
	And what happened is, when this whole thing rolled out, I kept waiting.
	I mean, we know about vitamin D preventing disease, and I kept waiting for the great CDC or NIH or somebody to suggest to people that they should up their vitamin D levels in this outbreak.
	Not one person did, but thankfully, the Indonesians did a study, and you may know about this, 800 some patients in a hospital, and they looked at their vitamin D levels, and they also looked, I think, at zinc, but the big one was vitamin D. If your vitamin D was above 30, and that's not very high, I mean, that's not, that's kind of, I wouldn't want mine to be 30, I want mine to be above 60 or more, but anyway, they looked at, if you were above 30, your chance of ending up dead or in the ICU was less than 5%.
	So why are we?
	So I said, and yet the CDC is silent.
	That's when I knew the fix was in.
	They were trying to kill us.
	It's not about health.
	That paper that you're talking about that came from Indonesia, it got pulled or I think something happened.
	And you know where they put it?
	There's a website called RetractionWatch.com or Retraction.
	They've put it there under COVID-19.
	If you go, if you hit Retraction, is it RetractionWatch.org?
	Either Watch.org or .com, one of those.
	And if you go in there, there's this category on the left side, it says COVID-19.
	If you click on COVID-19, you see 400 papers, and it's one of those papers, and it's all the way to the bottom, okay?
	You have to literally go out... That's what they're doing!
	Well, and it's on vitamin D3.
	I read that because I go there every two weeks, and I check on all the papers that have been retracted, and it's all the good papers that are all there.
	5G, Vitamin D3 plus K2, effects of stuff like that, and they're all in that little category there.
	They just retract these papers.
	They just take them out.
	I wonder if this Prashant Pradhan's original article is there, because that's not easy to find.
	You know what they've done?
	I think they used to have that paper.
	I have it saved now on my computer.
	I do too.
	Because now if you go to RetractionWatch.org, it says retracted and they just give you the abstract of the paper and they don't give you the rest.
	Right.
	Oh, and for the listening audience, let me just tell you.
	So, you're the only other person I knew that found that paper early on, but that paper came out on January 31st of 2020.
	And this is right after the big so-called outbreak of COVID.
	And these guys in Delhi, India recognized that in looking at everything that had been put up in the gene bank of the sequence, that they saw these artificial HIV inserts into this short sequence of the S1 subunit of the so-called virus.
	Now, the virus is 30,000 base pairs, they claim, and it's all over the page.
	There's no consistency because I think like what you're saying, Dr. Watt, it's just detritus.
	It's just human genomes.
	It's everything you find in the lung.
	It's just garbage.
	But there is some little thing there that was probably made in a lab, and they found that four HIV inserts were in there.
	And so now we're seeing whatever that genetic sequence is, maybe there is something that can damage your immune system.
	I'm not sure.
	But in any case, as we see this going on, there was a reason what I, whether, I didn't understand at that point anything in my life.
	I never heard the term, I think, bioinformatics, but I recognized when something is taken down this dramatically, the minute that they put this up, they were told they had to force it.
	They were forced to withdraw it against protest.
	They said, wait a minute, it's open data, don't do this.
	And not only were they forced to withdraw it, and that paper was buried, but the Zero Hedge magazine was censored for even reporting on it.
	That tells you There's a big problem.
	If you're catching that kind of flak, you're over a big target.
	You know who actually was behind them removing that paper?
	It was the American Society of Microbiology and I'm a paying member of ASM.
	I immediately wrote a letter to ASM and I said, you know what?
	I don't want to have anything to do with you people anymore.
	Good!
	Stop them!
	I don't want any because I've been a paying member Because I get papers, you know, I get all the good papers that you don't usually see.
	So I said, you know what?
	I don't want to have anything to do with you.
	You people are so corrupt and useless.
	You know, this is real science and you are destroying the progress of science.
	You are the reason we are in this mess.
	You know, it's not just the CDC.
	It's people like the American Society of Microbiology, the American Society of Molecular Biology.
	Forget about it.
	I don't want to have anything to do with you anymore.
	And I don't, you know, because I used to pay 80, 90, I think it was like $120 in the last two years.
	They upped their fees to just be a member.
	And I'm paying for this nonsense.
	I'm paying for censorship, you know?
	So I was like, no.
	And when I talked, you're right, it came out in January of 2020.
	The moment I read that paper, I actually called them in New Delhi because they had, you know, I emailed them and I said, hey, can I have a conversation with you?
	Because I'm a virologist.
	And they were very much open to it because, you know, I'm a fellow Indian.
	So we got talking.
	I talked to them for over three hours.
	Wow.
	And first they said, you know, you think they made this in a lab?
	I said, you know, I said, no, this is not a bioweapon.
	I think this was made on the computer.
	This is an in silico genome.
	And two of them said, you know what?
	That's what we thought, that they just made this up through, you know, probably took a bunch of sequences together and just made it and put it up on blast feed.
	But there is a bioweapon, but this is not it, is what you're saying.
	Yes.
	It's not a genetic bioweapon.
	It's a toxin, and they're distracting us.
	In other words, you're saying, essentially, this is like the magician that's doing this, and we're not looking at what they're really doing to us.
	And I'm testing the vaccines now, okay?
	I've been testing the vaccines.
	Personally, me, myself, me and Jeff.
	I'm not going to give his last name out because he has a family.
	I don't want anything to happen to him.
	I know, I know.
	Isn't that sad?
	70 miles up north.
	I go there every weekend and I test the vials.
	He smuggles in whatever vials we get.
	Sometimes we get Novavax.
	We've actually tested three Novavax vials at this point.
	And they're the same, identical as J&J.
	There's no difference, okay?
	They're all the same.
	It's the same platform.
	It's a Hydrogel CPG adjuvant.
	Okay, it's a sandwich.
	The lipid nanoparticle, whatever lipid nanoparticle, so in the case of Pfizer, it's PEG.
	They use the PEG-elated lipid nanoparticle.
	Moderna is using SM-102, which is highly toxic.
	I mean, I don't know what these people just put anything and everything garbage in there.
	And then it's reduced graphene oxide.
	Synthetic lipid nanoparticle, hydrogel, and graphene, reduced graphene oxide.
	There's no mRNA, there's no spike protein coded to the mRNA, nothing.
	I mean, zippo.
	And massive amounts of heavy metal contamination, tungsten, osmium, silica, a lot of silver and gold particles.
	What else?
	They have nickel, Um, some amounts of lead.
	I mean, you talk about heavy metal contamination, a lot of aluminum, massive amounts of aluminum in there.
	And all this stuff is very stable, you know.
	You, when you put that into the human body, it goes and sits in adipose tissue and other places.
	And it causes issues.
	It causes irritation and inflammation.
	That's what's causing, you know, all these vascular problems that you're seeing.
	The blood vessel problems.
	And the graphene oxide has a very weak, extremely weak, positive piezoelectric charge.
	And everything in our body, especially the heart and the brain, are negatively charged.
	So it literally short circuits everything and And through the inflammatory process, you're short-circuiting everything, and so you die.
	That's why people are getting heart attacks, myocarditis, inflammation, swelling of the heart, all sorts of stuff.
	And it's because of the reduced graphene oxide.
	See?
	No biologics.
	It's not the spike.
	So how about the venom?
	How about this stuff now?
	So we are seeing the other people around the world are showing all that stuff, but there are these labs that are showing these like round, they look like, you know, a cellular kind of thing.
	It's just, but it's artificial.
	It looks artificial.
	It is round and it seems to be excreting these little things.
	And this is what Brian Arda started talking about these, what they call organoids.
	You haven't seen anything, but again, you know, from, and I'm not the only one working.
	We have 18 people, including me.
	There's 18.
	And we have, we, in fact, one of the, I was going to do a PowerPoint number three on the jabs this coming Friday.
	And I had to, with Regis, and I had to postpone it because one of our scientists who's in the Philippines in Mindanao, his lab, his house got, they came to his, the Filipino government sent somebody to his house and then house got burnt down.
	You know what I mean?
	Wow.
	They, so they're, they're cracking down on a lot of people who are speaking up against the vaccines in other countries as well.
	They're doing it in Malaysia.
	They're doing it in, in, in the Philippines.
	So I'm working with all these people in the.
	There's two in Russia, there's two in Australia, one in New Zealand, three, or now we have four, I think, in Argentina, one in Shanghai, China, and then we just picked up one lady.
	She's actually an MD-PhD.
	She's a pediatrician, but she's working with an analytical chemist in She's from Acapulco, but she works in Mexico City.
	And all these people are testing all the vaccines.
	So, they're testing the Sinopharm, Sinovac, which are the Chinese vaccines.
	That's what I was going to ask you, if they're checking the Russian or the Chinese.
	The Sputnik V, the Russian scientists who are in Novosibirsk, they're testing those.
	The Indians, we got two Indians now who are testing the Covishield, which is the Indian vaccine.
	It's the homegrown version of AstraZeneca.
	And all of so there's Sinopharm, Sinovac, Sputnik V, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, Moderna, and Novavax.
	And then there's some unknowns like Soberana Plus 2 is a vaccine which has come out of the Finlay Institute in Havana, Cuba.
	It's a homegrown vaccine and they've shipped that to Tehran, Iran, And Iran actually takes this Soberana Plus 2 and I think they do something with their vaccines and they're calling it Fostocovac in Iran.
	So these are smaller vaccines.
	They're homegrown vaccines as well.
	Every single vaccine I just mentioned is the same vaccine.
	They're just branded with different names.
	None of them have mRNA.
	The mRNA vaccines have no mRNA.
	They have no spike protein.
	The viral vectors have no viral vectors in them.
	No nothing.
	It's just a hydrogel platform with reduced graphene oxide and a synthetic lipid nanoparticle and tremendous amount of junk.
	Heavy metal contamination.
	Massive amounts of heavy metal contamination.
	And that's it.
	It's a chemical bioweapon.
	It's not even a, I'm sorry, a chemical weapon.
	It's not even a bioweapon.
	Right, right, right.
	And so far the group, we've tested 2,300 vaccines in all, if you, you know, all of us, vials.
	That's a lot of vaccines and there is no, we haven't found any, any differences in the vaccines at all.
	What we have found is there's 35 different variations depending on what extra or less they put in there.
	If you, if you've got a very lethal dose of reduced graphene oxide, you usually, you die within a few weeks to a few months.
	So it just depends on the dosage that there's in there.
	So far we found about 35 different variations.
	Of the levels of just the graphene oxide or other things?
	Other things too.
	It just, there's, I mean, there's 35 different variations of the same vaccine.
	I mean, there's the levels, just a few nanograms difference here, a few nanograms difference in this, you know what I mean?
	There's, they just changed the, that's it.
	That's the only difference.
	There's, that's just, this is why people are going, oh, I took it and I'm not dead yet.
	Yeah.
	Well, right.
	Because you probably got a lesser dose of something and you know that person got a higher dose of something.
	So you got all these different variations.
	But the platform is the same.
	It's all chemical crap that they're putting in there.
	This is why I said it's not easy to tinker around with biologics.
	So they just chemically contaminate everything.
	Right, and this whole vaccine thing for generations has been a scam to get people used to it.
	You know, 67% of Americans took the flu vaccine.
	5% of Estonians, they had the same outcomes.
	So, there was nothing in there that was hurting you, but it wasn't doing anything to protect you against anything.
	It's just a scam to get you in the idea that everybody should do it every year.
	So, nobody questioned this.
	That was a psychological operation.
	And the other thing I need to point out, and I think few people have pointed this out, we've, in the West, particularly in the United States because of Rockefeller medicine, if you read, you know, Eleanor McBean's The Poison Needle and a bunch of other books,
	Early on, very early on, maybe, you know, within 10 years or 12 years or 20 years of the Civil War, we started vaccinating, you know, I mean the 1880s, 1890s, heavily started vaccinating people and experimenting on people.
	So, how many generations of Americans is that, that have received vaccinations?
	I'd say maybe 100 to 120 years of just vaccine damage, okay?
	And you pass it on from one generation to another, you're getting, on top of that, you're getting EMFs from all over the place, you're getting radio waves from all over the place, the food is bad, the food is contaminated, the water is severely contaminated with You know, trihalomethanes and fluorine and chlorine, all sorts of stuff, pesticides.
	You know how much damage the body is?
	The body can only take so much stuff.
	And then you did, well, I think what an American usually gets between 40 to 100 vaccines in their lifetime.
	Because you got all these boosters, you know, you're taking the meningococcal vaccine, the flu vaccine every year.
	The children are given a hepatitis, a trivalent hepatitis vaccine.
	Why are you giving a little baby a hepatitis B vaccine?
	That's just ridiculous.
	That's what they, I mean, that's what they do now.
	Let me ask you this, Corvelva Labs, are you familiar with them?
	Because a few years ago, they claimed that they sequenced, they found genetic material in the, in the new, one of the new pentavalent or quadrivalent vaccines that were required for school children.
	So they put chicken pox, you know, measles, mumps, rubella, all that in one vaccine.
	They call it a quadrivalent.
	Pentavalent vaccine.
	Right.
	And they claim they sequenced it.
	I'll send you the paper.
	And it shows this beautiful circular picture of the genetic material they found.
	And they claim it was embryonic male.
	It was a complete embryonic male DNA genome that was in that vaccine that they found.
	It's very possible.
	I mean, they're using, you know, like the MMR has aborted fetal cells in it.
	Right, so we can sequence to find stuff, we just can't manipulate it.
	I guess that's what I'm walking away with.
	That makes the most sense of anything.
	I think that clarifies the whole issue.
	And the payload carriers are always bacterial plasmids in every case.
	In everything we've been doing.
	Yes, they've figured out how to use plasmids.
	But other than that, they haven't figured out anything.
	There's no viral vectors.
	And even mRNA, I mean, according to Dr. Harold Hillman, ribosomes are artifacts.
	Ribosomes are the creators, you know, they're the protein factory.
	Essentially, they give the They tell the body to start making proteins and amino acids and polypeptides and stuff.
	So if they don't exist, what the hell does the mRNA do?
	Because the mRNA comes out of the nucleus and it tells the ribosomes to make the proteins.
	Specific proteins for whatever part of the body.
	So, I'm sitting there going, does even mRNA exist, or have we been told?
	No, seriously!
	No, seriously, because what do they call that?
	They call it, you know, the transcription translation.
	It's like the holy grail of genetics.
	I mean, if that's wrong, and actually, you know, the issue about, I think Thomas Cowan just did a thing on Did they really find DNA the way they think?
	Yeah, and this is what I mean.
	I mean, this is, you know, the other thing is, I think I mentioned to you about the transposons and Dr. Barbara McClintock.
	She did this work in the 30s and 40s.
	Do you know when she got a Nobel Prize?
	In 1983.
	For that long they were just completely ignoring her work.
	They bamboozled her.
	They called her names and they because she kept saying hey listen you know there's you got these transposons and initially if you read even work on transposons right now it's very similar to the CRISPR-Cas9 but the body does it internally.
	Right, so it's jumping genes.
	It's basically little segments of your genome that move to someplace else and we don't understand.
	And they have short little jumping genes and they have the long ones, but they remove themselves and they actually go to different parts of the body.
	We still don't know why.
	A lot of it, they're saying, is due to adaptation.
	You know, the animal, when the animal has to adapt to a particular circumstance, to illness or temperature changes or something, the body automatically does these little, these transposons move from one part of the body and carry a bunch of genes from one part to another, you know, on the genome itself.
	And they also have something like reverse transcriptase.
	It's called a reverse transposon.
	So are you sure this isn't artifact?
	No, this is actually not.
	This is real.
	But what I'm saying is the body internally is already doing all of this.
	And you don't need CRISPR-Cas9 or any of this.
	I mean, there are internal mechanisms within the body To actually do things, you know, to take care of the body itself.
	And they never talk about the transposons.
	Even to this day, very little research has been even done on transposons.
	They just literally push it under the... When I first learned about it, I was fascinated.
	I was going... The two things that fascinated me were the plasmids, And the transposons because there's very little work.
	See how they do very little work on stuff that really needs work?
	You need to look more into it.
	Yeah, they're just keeping us busy.
	I feel like there's, you know, and this comes from my belief that we're being run by the dark occult, and occult just means hidden, that there's a group of people that know all this.
	They know how this works.
	They hide two things from us.
	They hide our psychological makeup, and they hide the way the world works from us.
	Same thing with scalar energy and lots of things.
	And I really think that they're just keeping us busy like little mice, and that they're just saying, if we keep us busy over there, we're just not going to pay attention to how they're killing us or how they're controlling us.
	Yeah and these transposons they were calling them pro-viruses.
	I mean they called it all sorts of stuff and this is they were harassing Barbara McClintock with this for what 30 plus years I think more than that and she she kept doing her research and she says they're not viruses okay these are these are things our body's doing To essentially take care of the homeostasis and the equilibrium within the body itself.
	And she actually made a statement, and this did not go well with the scientific community.
	I mean, they literally just crucified her.
	She said that reverse transcriptase It's part of this whole mechanism.
	Remember the HIV reverse transcriptase?
	You need an enzyme, blah, blah, blah.
	And this is what Tom Cowan was saying.
	Reverse transcriptase is found in our body.
	It's through this transposon mechanism.
	I mean, it's called transposase.
	Reverse transposase is what they call it.
	It's really not reverse transcriptase.
	It's part of this transposon mechanism.
	The body.
	And this is what happens because of these transposons.
	That whole ideology of DNA makes RNA makes protein doesn't work because it goes the other direction.
	Because these transposons move stuff.
	They move stuff from here, clip it over there.
	So they take RNA, move it, clip it over here.
	They take DNA, move it, clip it over here.
	They take proteins and clip it somewhere else.
	So how do exosomes figure in here?
	Where are exosomes in this?
	I don't know about exosomes.
	Are they moving these pieces of DNA?
	It probably is.
	It's probably part of this transposon mechanism, you know?
	It's probably all related.
	I'm not very 100% sure because this is new science, you know?
	Stuff that we never really looked at.
	Every time in class or, you know, when I talk to professors about the transposon mechanism, they just say, we don't really need to look at it.
	It's Barbara McClintock got that Nobel Prize, you know, for no rhyme or reason.
	I said, really?
	Yeah, that woman was just, they would call her a science heretic.
	Well, that's good.
	Yeah, I'm proud.
	That was the name given to her.
	I mean, even after she got the Nobel Prize, it was never, it was always sort of kept, you know, on the sidelines here.
	When they do stuff like that, then, you know, we need to kind of look at what are transposons?
	What exactly are these things?
	What's going on here?
	60% of the genome, apparently, in our bodies is caused by the transposons.
	There's something called an allosequence.
	And some people um from a I tested my uh genome and we did we used to do these experiments.
	The white folk in my in my lab did not have the aloe sequence.
	Me and the Mexican chap who were in the lab had the aloe sequence.
	So there's no aloe.
	A-l-l-o-e-l-u it's called e it's called aloe aloe sequence.
	It's it's a short sequence of these it's it's okay of this transposon and it apparently gives people the color of their skin.
	Wow, interesting.
	Okay, this is what I mean.
	It's not a genotype, it's essentially a phenotype.
	Phenotypes change depending on these transposon changes in your body.
	And we don't even bother to look at it.
	We call it genetic sequencing and this and that and whatever else.
	You know, why don't we really look at the real science?
	And you're right.
	Go ahead.
	So Lamarck, remember, I mean that we were taught that Lamarck was a kook because he believed, didn't believe in evolution, he believed that adaptation to the environment was actually genetic.
	And so before I heard your story just now, I thought to myself, well, You know, what we call viruses could be these exosomes, and wouldn't it be a beautiful thing that you can't, like, suddenly we're exposed to new electromagnetic frequency, and it's becoming with us all the time.
	So you can't wait for, you know, a million years to evolve.
	That wouldn't work.
	You have to be able to deal with it.
	Wouldn't it be great if we just could spit out a little bit of our genome that would then change our phenotype?
	And that's what you're talking about.
	That does make a lot more sense than what they're doing.
	And I think exosomes either are transposons or vice versa I think it's the same mechanism.
	And I think it just changed this is that, which makes sense because it goes you know takes part out of, you know, it takes jumps from one part of the genome goes and clips into another part of genome.
	And they haven't been able to, they try to replicate this just like CRISPR-Cas9.
	They have not been successful.
	That's what, that's probably why they don't do anything on it because then they can't weaponize it, you see?
	Right, right.
	If you can't weaponize it, don't give it any attention.
	It's too difficult.
	Okay, yeah, okay.
	You know, we don't want to look at it because you can't weaponize it.
	But it exists, and that might be what causes the adaptation sequence that Lamarck was talking about, and he totally got against, just sidelined altogether.
	Exactly.
	You know, they don't even talk about Jean-Baptiste Lamarck.
	They only talk about Darwin.
	It's nonsense.
	Right.
	You know, because the finches in the Galapagos, those beaks, when the temperature changes and everything changes back, the beaks became straight again.
	So it was not evolution.
	You didn't become a different species.
	You just changed back.
	It was just an adaptation process.
	And we have that in our bodies.
	And these culprits, the parasites who are running the show, they probably know a lot of this stuff.
	Yeah, I think so too.
	The only thing they don't know is how to manipulate the stuff.
	They know it exists, they just don't know how.
	Thank God, because if they could manipulate it, we'd be in a lot of doo-doo.
	Right, right, right.
	As a human species.
	So they, so the next best thing is poison us through a bunch of chemicals.
	Chemical cocktails, you know, spray us with a bunch of crap, heavy metals and whatever else, you know, put stuff in our food, put stuff in our water.
	And vaccines.
	You know, if they could kill us this easily, just by causing the aerosolizing or bioweaponizing viruses and bacteria, we'd all be dead by now.
	That's absolutely right.
	And you know, just as somebody that's kind of followed the bioweapons stuff going on over the decades, I gotta say, you can see the trend that they tried, like Ken Albeck in his book, for example, and other information from him.
	I mean, you can see how they've We and they, everybody has tried for a long time to aerosolize like Ebola or some hemorrhagic fever.
	They really wanted, that's what they really wanted.
	They really wanted an airborne hemorrhagic fever.
	They couldn't bring it off.
	They wanted to airborne anthrax to kill, but they couldn't really bring it off.
	You name it.
	They can't really bring off these aerosolized diseases.
	So now what are they studying?
	Arthropod vector disease.
	So they're trying, they realize if they can't get us to run out and take injections, they'll get insects to inject us with this crap.
	That's what it is.
	But you know, again, it, we, our bodies are very, very intelligent, you know, everything in nature is very intelligent.
	Everything has a place and you can't just change that just because you feel you have a God complex.
	Right.
	They have tried.
	It doesn't work and I've always said that about science.
	This is the beauty of science, you know.
	We have no idea how it really works because we haven't even, we've barely scratched the tip of the iceberg.
	There's just so much underneath there, you know.
	And a lot of biology is corrupted and people get upset when I say this.
	Biology got corrupted because physics got corrupted with quantum mechanics.
	Anything with quantum in it is bullshit.
	Okay, quantum mechanics, quantum financial system, quantum computing, it's all BS.
	We live in an electromagnetic universe.
	It's mostly electric, so I'm going the Tesla direction instead of the Einsteinian Schrodinger model, okay?
	So quantum mechanics destroyed physics, Which destroyed chemistry because you got the p-orbitals and the s-orbitals in chemistry, and then that bled into biology and destroyed biology altogether.
	So the hard sciences are completely hijacked and corrupted.
	People get very upset at me for saying this, but this is the truth.
	No, it's true.
	And I just, I'm just writing my article after I talked to you and I really started looking at other things and thinking about this, you know, my article, my next article for my, my pseudo Substack, because I got decommissioned from Substack, so I have to do it on my own site.
	Can you send me links to your website?
	Yeah, I'm the only person I know that got demonetized.
	Can you send me links to your website?
	Yeah, I sure will.
	Yeah, because, you know, additionally, it's a lot of the stuff that you've come up with.
	I've come up with like, you know, I used to do the pill supplements.
	And now I do a balanced nutritional supplement.
	And then I do certain things extra if I need them.
	So, because quite frankly, what we know is there are 90 nutritional supplements that you need because we're not getting them from our soils.
	And so, people are deficient in lots of things, but you can't do it by pill.
	So, that's why I do something that's easy to do, it's fairly cheap, and then I add extra vitamin D. I add extra what we're talking about.
	So anyway, yeah, I have that.
	But I'm doing scalar energy for dummies, kind of.
	I'm trying to explain scalar, because I really think it's not only what Tesla was playing around with when he probably flattened the tundra forest accidentally, it's also on the microscopic level.
	And that this is why they didn't, they don't, the physics, the chemistry, everything they teach you in school is like just so off, you know, and I had a quote from somebody that said the, it's kind of like the wizards of physics, Want to blacklist scalar information so it's not in your textbooks in high school and college, you know?
	And that's, I think that's really true.
	And I think, you know, I asked Thomas, when I came around to this idea they've been lying to us about virology and viruses for so long, I realized, okay, explain to me like chickenpox and these things.
	And it makes more sense to realize that That we don't completely understand how cells communicate either but let's suppose that let's suppose cells can communicate with each other.
	And in ways that we don't completely know but it does seem to be scalar and this is what Luke Montagnier finally showed and, and But Jean, his predecessor over in France, I'm blanking on, Jacques Benaviste, that it was a scalar imprint of DNA in water that made water memory that could then be transmitted.
	Or in Benaviste, it was an immunoglobulin.
	But nonetheless, We probably, you know, when little kids get together with chickenpox, somebody has a chickenpox party, how does, maybe there's actually a cellular, scalar energy, and so yeah, you get it too, because you're being told by your friend, who's also four years old or three years old, that now's the time to detoxify yourself, because the world has changed, and we've been born into a world that we're not quite prepared for.
	This is a time for you to offload this bit of genetic material, and you do it!
	So, You know, again, there's so many explanations that don't involve airborne little animacules making us sick, but this is an anti-human agenda.
	Yes, and you know, you're absolutely right with that.
	We don't understand anything.
	I mean, the more I look at biology, it's just because it's so mechanistic.
	What we're taught is just mechanistic.
	There's no holistic perspective to it.
	I mean, you know, if you look at what Rupert Sheldrake was saying, it makes total sense.
	I mean, that's why he called it the science delusion.
	His book, I think in the UK, was called the science delusion.
	Everything, you know, and I don't want to go into the mumbo-jumbo, I don't want to sound like I'm some kind of mumbo-jumbo person, but you know, the morphogenetic field, the consciousness and all of that, it makes complete sense.
	No, absolutely.
	You have to take that into consideration.
	And Tesla said the same thing.
	He made a statement, I think, everything is energy and frequency, is what he said.
	Right.
	The scary part, I'll see if I can find it real quick here, but the scary part here is his other quote, which people don't quote, and I just happened to be writing about it when we started here, but I'm just going to tell you.
	So here's Tesla's real Let's see if I can find it here.
	Because he had another quote, and it's not about that.
	That's the one that everybody knows, but he also had, I guess I can't find it, but he also said that the whole world works on a Hertz between six and eight Hertz.
	That the Schumann resonance of the earth, our brain function, our metabolism, everything functions in this narrow band of six to eight Hertz.
	And he said, Once we understand this, we can control the brains of all mankind.
	Ah, maybe that is what Tesla said.
	So he, yeah, so, so, you know, they only quote part of what he said.
	They don't quote what really he said that, that's really kind of important here.
	So, yeah, here's the exact, here it is.
	It says alpha waves in the human brain are between 6 and 8 hertz.
	The wave frequency of the human cavity resonates between six and eight hertz.
	All biologic systems operate in the same frequency range.
	The human brain's alpha waves function in this range, and the electrical resonance of the earth is between six and eight hertz.
	Thus, our entire biologic system, the brain and the earth itself, work on the same frequencies.
	If we can control the resonant system electronically, we can directly control the entire mental system of humankind.
	Nicola, take it away.
	Maybe that's what they're trying to do.
	I think that's why once that I realized that I've got it now, I absolutely believe you.
	And once I got that, I said, okay, now let's use the principle that they're trying to get us to look here while they're really doing this.
	What are they really looking at?
	And I think this is it.
	But here's the problem, you know, even if they're trying to control, I mean, if there's 8 billion people on this planet... And murder us, yeah.
	Okay, so they're gonna have to get rid of quite a few to control the rest, because you can't control 8 billion.
	That's a lot of people.
	Somebody will... They know it.
	Yeah, so it's a split program of depopulation and what's left over is going to be controlled.
	That's the plan.
	I still don't think their plans are going to work.
	It doesn't work that way.
	I don't think so either.
	This is again Logic 101 common sense.
	A lot of us have not taken the vaccines.
	We're not going to give in.
	I mean, there's quite a few who have not taken the jabs.
	Yeah.
	And people are waking up.
	So they're on their last leg.
	I know if I say this, people go, well, you're just a little too optimistic.
	I said, no, I'm a realist.
	No, I think it's coming down.
	This is why they're bringing out all these other monkeypox and the Nipah virus and Marburg and they're on their they're desperate.
	They have to do something to cover the jab damage.
	Okay, people are dying from these jabs.
	And they're also, see, then I'm going to sound even crazier maybe because I, you know, conspiracies exist.
	The idea that you're a conspiracy theorist, I've decided that just means you can have pattern recognition.
	Correct.
	And long ago when this whole thing started getting on and we got these Q drops and we got all these little things that we, and I get a chance to talk to people all over and people like in the DIA and people come up to me and they say things and I'm just saying, There's something going on in the background.
	And I find it highly interesting that as we've gotten progressively into this, and it does feel like we are winning, suddenly all these people that are higher, it's the people that have come out and said, I'm just denouncing that I've tested positive for COVID and I'm self-isolating, okay?
	If you notice who that happened to, it started at lower levels, but now it's at higher levels.
	So who have we had recently?
	We've had Fauci, then we've had Biden, and now the one that really got my eye open were Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yes, yes.
	He just came out and said, I've just been recently tested positive for COVID and I'm self-isolating.
	Now, the rumor, you know, the conspiracy theory rumor is that's a signal that these people really are being Moved off the scene, let's just say.
	I don't know if that's true or not, but there's something odd.
	And I just say, people should look at that little factor.
	It's not just people saying, I got COVID again.
	I mean, it's how it's announced.
	It's the whole thing.
	Something is going on here.
	And I don't know any more than that, but I'm with you.
	I think we're winning because I don't think the people that are doing this seem to be very Stereotypically acting.
	They have to act in certain ways, you know, very legalistic.
	I don't know how to say that, but and I think the beauty of humans is we can think around the corner like you've obviously been doing your whole life and that's what's made a difference.
	Well, I think, you know, I just, I'm just waiting at some point where we can turn the corner and actually look at real science.
	Yeah, I think it's coming.
	It's coming.
	Yeah.
	I obviously, I don't think they can put this genie, no matter what, I don't think they're going to put this genie back in the box.
	And so many people in medical science, I know so many people are fed up with physicians, with universities, with hospitals.
	They want something different.
	And we're finding that out.
	We're finding out what's different, what we can do.
	In a way, COVID actually is a silver lining because if it hadn't happened, we'd still be doing the same repeat.
	Okay.
	I mean, it would not have really, it was brewing under the surface, all this, the, you know, science and this, everything, all the crap was just brewing under like a little volcano, you know, it was just brewing there.
	Now it just erupted.
	People can see everything and people are waking up very quickly.
	Literally all of civilization is a sham.
	Our histories, all of paleontology, everything we know about the solar system, about how the universe works.
	Question everything.
	Everything.
	We don't know anything anymore.
	I mean, we are going to have to figure out who, what is humanity?
	Where did we come from?
	Who are we?
	You know, we certainly did not evolve from an ape, okay?
	That's complete nonsense.
	There's no missing link.
	The reason they can't find a missing link is because there ain't one.
	There is no missing link, yeah.
	Okay, so we have to figure out who are we?
	What are we?
	Where did we come from?
	What is our history?
	What is our legacy?
	We all of that have, and this is, it's all, you know, it'll probably take us another 10, 20, possibly 50, 100 years, but you know, it's a process.
	Yeah.
	And I think we're on the right path.
	I mean, it's tough right now, but probably by 2025, 26, I think things are starting to get better.
	You know, they're going to go in the right direction.
	At least that's, that's what I think.
	Well, I just look at the progress we've made in two years understanding things.
	Looks what, you know, I mean, you're here in public now.
	This was all just, for how many years did people labor in private in their labs saying it's all nonsense?
	And now the whole world is waking up to the fact that they've been lied to.
	So, yeah, I think it's really, maybe I'm going to bet even sooner than 2025, but yeah, by 2025.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	So I think we're making really good progress and things are looking up.
	And just don't go take boosters.
	Don't take the Jeneos 2000 from Monkey Park.
	Keep away from anything, you know, from the Bavarian Nordic.
	It's, by the way, Bavarian Nordic is the same company that was making the Ebola vaccine and it did, it fizzled out in 2015.
	It's the same people.
	It's the same people.
	And it's the same people 100 years ago in 1918.
	And I'm wondering now if it's the same people in 1820 when there was a cholera epidemic.
	You know, again, that's a toxin.
	How many times have they done this to us?
	That's another question.
	And you know, here's the other thing.
	This is very interesting.
	I need to point this out because I just have to because this is very interesting.
	Cholera is caused by a bacteria called Vibrio cholera.
	Okay, so Vibrio cholerae, according to the conventional science, does not really is a pass-through bacteria.
	Okay, it doesn't do anything.
	Okay, great.
	Apparently, it gets injected with a toxin called Toxin B from a bacteriophage.
	Which injects, you know, through the DNA process, injects toxin, this toxin that they call toxin B, into Vibrio cholerae, and Vibrio cholerae gets taken over, becomes a zombified bacteria, and then causes cholera.
	What a bunch of crapola!
	This is not even scientifically, it doesn't even make sense for anybody who knows science 101, okay?
	So it's not a bacteria causing Cholera, because if the bacteria has been completely hijacked by a bacteriophage, why not?
	And bacteriophage apparently is a virus, which it isn't, by the way, and I want to explain the bacteriophage theory too.
	The bacteriophage is not a virus because it has two phases according to conventional science, so they defeat their own theories.
	It's got the lysogenic cycle and a lytic cycle, so when it's in the lytic phase, which is the dormant phase, it's called a prophage.
	And when it becomes active, it becomes a temporal phage.
	So viruses don't work that way in virology.
	They're always active.
	They take over, they replicate and kill the host and whatever, and then they move on.
	So bacteriophage is not really a virus.
	They say that it's a virus that attacks bacteria.
	You know what a bacteriophage really is?
	It's literally the bacteria being pleomorphic, what Beshamp was saying.
	They change shape, the somatids, okay?
	They become pleomorphic.
	Sometimes they're rod-shaped, sometimes they're filamentous-shaped.
	So depending on the circumstances, just like amoeba, you know how amoeba go into the spore?
	They go into dormancy.
	That's what bacteria do.
	They change shape depending on the circumstances, the temperature changes or whatever.
	And the bacteriophage coming out that they see on the SEM, on the scanning electron microscope at 40 or 50 nanometers in size, it's just the bacteria changing shape or becoming something else.
	It's not a virus attacking the bacteria.
	And that is what Royal Rife said.
	You know, I don't know if you know about Royal Rife, but he was born in Elkhorn, Nebraska, which isn't too far from me.
	And he showed, you know, he had his microscope, whereas our microscopes today, we're lucky to get 2500 magnification.
	He created this thing with almost 6,000 moving parts and handmade them, and he saw 15,000 magnification.
	And I don't know how he did this in the age before Foley catheters, but he taught himself to sit at that microscope and move the dials.
	I know you know this, but I'm saying this for the audience.
	Move the dials very slowly and watch and see the fluorescence, the color, the index of refraction of these various different, you know, bacteria and things.
	And he said that viruses, he saw both bacteria and viruses, but viruses were a stage of bacteria, just like you're talking about.
	It was a kind of like, you know, somewhere in the replication cycle or whatever, you know, he saw it happen.
	And so these aren't different.
	They aren't separate.
	Right.
	So, no.
	Cholera, Vibrio cholerae, does not cause cholera.
	And certainly there's no bacteriophage that injects a toxin B. This is all made-up nonsense.
	Again, nothing has been proven.
	They have never proven that, you know, this causes that.
	Again, no Koch's postulates have been done on this.
	It's just nonsense.
	Do you think they purposely poisoned wells then to create the cholera outbreaks?
	You know, it could be anything.
	It's, you know, any kind of toxin.
	And remember, a lot of these things happen in countries like in Africa, in India, where there's open sewage and, you know, all sorts of stuff.
	So you got a lot of tanning.
	They use the leather tanning places.
	A lot of those chemicals, you know, go into the water supply.
	They They go and cause toxic effects on the body and people get the runs.
	You know, they get fevers, they get runs.
	Again, you're detoxifying all the poisons that you've just ingested through the water supply.
	So no, it's not a bacterium or even a bacteriophage or whatever it is that they want to call it.
	It's all nonsense.
	And the same thing with Legionnaire's disease.
	You know, they made that up in 1976.
	A microbiologist said, oh, first the CDC said it was called an Andromeda strain.
	They thought it was a virus.
	I was actually reading a paper on this.
	Then they said, oh, it's probably a toxin coming out of the vent.
	You know, the vent in these hotels where these 6,000 people were staying.
	Only 300 got, you know, these symptoms and they took the bacteria, they said they found it, and they injected it into mice and it didn't catch.
	It didn't cause illness?
	It didn't cause illness.
	So they put it into the guy, the bacteriologist or microbiologist, his daughter's guinea pig.
	Her pet guinea pig was used as the And they put it into the pads.
	They put it into the pads of the guinea pig and then they did all sorts of other things.
	Grow it in egg yolk and then put that in.
	I mean they tried all sorts of variations.
	It's like throwing spaghetti at the wall and whatever sticks, sticks.
	And that's what happened.
	And then they said, oh yes, new bacteria called lesionella pneumophila causes lesionnaires disease.
	Oh, it finally killed the guinea pig?
	They used just one guinea pig and no controls were used, okay?
	No controls were used.
	How is this a scientifically sound experiment?
	And this is in 1976 in microbiology.
	So my point is, everything is made up.
	All of it.
	You know, it's not just virology.
	Now, when I say this to a few people who, you know, who believe that SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist, I said, don't worry.
	It's not just virology that's bad.
	It's all of it that's bad.
	Okay.
	And they say, are you nuts?
	I said, no, it's, I'm not nuts because I saw this happening in the lab.
	Wow.
	Everything we've been told so far is, is usually one truth and 10 lies.
	And they dress, it's all window dressing.
	Wow.
	I thought it was just medicine.
	No, basic science.
	I mean, that is a big shocker.
	I mean, this is really like suddenly you're on a seismic plane that just shifted completely, and it's just really hard for people to imagine.
	I mean, if I said this to Dr. Ryan Cole, who's a microbiologist, he'd probably slap me or something and he'd call me names or something.
	But even his field, which is medical microbiology and pathology, is completely hijacked.
	Why do you think virology got hijacked?
	Because they made reverse postulates They modified Koch's postulates to reverse postulates or criteria, and even by those criteria, they couldn't meet the standards of virology.
	This is how bad it is.
	So it all comes from, like I said, physics to chemistry, chemistry to biology, and from medical microbiology and pathology You get virology.
	So yeah, it's just, it's a steady decline in science.
	It's all bioinformatics and toxins.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And parasites.
	I do believe parasites exist.
	Yeah.
	Carriers, you know, they just carry the payload of whatever, you know, all sorts of toxins and stuff.
	But they have not been able to prove anything.
	And, you know, the other thing is when you remove body parts, like your Your amyloids and your tonsils, you know, these are gatekeepers to your system.
	They're part of your lymphatic system, actually.
	They're part of the lymphatics, so they're gatekeepers.
	You remove your appendix, of course, I mean, you know, in most cases it's septic, so if it's removed, again, you know, you're missing a body part.
	You remove the womb, You're gonna have problems because the body goes together.
	I mean, it functions as a whole.
	You can't just remove parts of it and expect it to, you know, go forward.
	Yeah, people forget that prefrontal lobotomy, the guy got a Nobel Prize for it.
	It was considered standard of care.
	When we talk about the science is settled, they forget that that science was settled.
	They thought that was the best thing for insanity, right?
	Well, yeah, I don't have these conversations often.
	With maybe with you, I think this is the first time and then I think with my postdocs.
	My postdocs are finally going, oh my god, all of science is nonsense.
	I said, yep.
	That it is.
	We've got to rewrite it.
	Yep.
	Got to restart.
	The good news, I feel good.
	A good thing I can feel.
	I was going to be an internist, and I think to myself, you know, in ancient medicine, old medicine, other than purification and detoxification, the one thing they had were bone setters.
	And I became an orthopedic surgeon, so I still have something that is a real-world necessity sometimes.
	But yeah, that's really sad.
	But we've got We've been lied to about the things we can't understand with our own physical reality eyes and even some of those so.
	Well, you know, but this is a good thing because now we can actually start going in the right direction.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I really appreciate you coming on and I know you spent a lot of time but this is going to be awesome because people need to hear this.
	They need to hear that this is not just throwaway lines and that we're people are behind the scenes that have scientific background like you have.
	Are really thinking and it's and and and it's the it's not just going to be cries in the wilderness.
	I think this is a I think this is the beginning of a tsunami.
	It's going to roll over the scientific world.
	They can't keep this, you know, you can I remember Boris Yeltsin years ago when they were taken over the Russian White House and he was standing on the steps and there were all these, you know, these tanks pointed at him and he said, you know, you can sit on a throne of bayonets, but you can't sit on it for long.
	I think the end of I think the end of this scam is coming down.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	And I think, you know, doctors like yourself are making a huge difference, huge difference, because you're reaching out to so many millions of people.
	So it makes it, I just wanted to thank you for that, you know, for having a podcast and reaching out to millions of people out there, because this makes a big, you're taking a stand, you're taking major risks by doing what you're doing, but it really is helping all of us.
	Well, and you too.
	I appreciate you coming forward because I think there's so many people that could come forward and they're frightened.
	But we have to remember, they're coming after our kids.
	Now's the time.
	We all have to stand up.
	If we all stand up, they can't make us sit down.
	Right, right.
	Yep.
	Thanks again.
	We're going to get this out and it'll be up on Rumble and all over the place hopefully.
	Thank you so much.
	Can you send me a link to this?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	And you know, I'll have my website is themedicalrebel.com and it'll be on the front page too.
	And you have that white book, the big thick one.
	Oh yeah.
	So this is kind of interesting to go back now.
	I got this when I was a senior in medical school, and it was a famous book at the time by Ralph Major.
	It was called Classic Descriptions of Disease, and the one about Dr. Snow and cholera is a famous description.
	I want to get that.
	I want to read that.
	Yeah, I'll see if they're still in publication.
	I'll try to find it because these are the books we need to read, really go back.
	We need to go back and look what they really knew and what they really saw.
	And you realize it could be explained in multiple ways, but we are told it was only because of the biologic junk that they taught us.
	Thank you so much for having me on today.
	Have a great day.
	Enjoy your perfect weather down there.
	Okay, see ya.

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