July 4, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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| I would say is imagine that you come across a people who've had no contact with normal human civilization. | |
| So these are people without any contact with what I'm saying normal human civilization. | |
| So this could be people in the Amazon who haven't been contacted, people in the deepest part of Siberia, or when you're talking about people who haven't had contact with normal human civilization, maybe New York City. | |
| So a lot of places there are out there that haven't had contact, but let's say somewhere deep in the Amazon. | |
| Can people hear me? | |
| I think so. | |
| Yes, we can hear. | |
| Good. | |
| Sorry. | |
| So imagine you dropped maybe a bunch, let's say a bunch of transistor type radios, different sizes from the small ones to a big ones, etc. | |
| You just drop them in and it was close enough Uh, that you could actually get them to work. | |
| So you didn't just drop them and smash them. | |
| You placed them carefully without anybody seeing them into the midst of this, uh, so maybe when they were asleep, into this, uh, Amazon tribe people who have never seen a radio or helicopters or anything like that. | |
| And so they're looking at these things, which they've never seen before, | |
| and somebody decides to turn it on and lo and behold they get sound and each one they get sound from and then they start fiddling with it, fiddling with the dials and fiddling with the knobs and then the sound gets softer or gets louder and then sometimes you hear music and you fiddle with the dial and sometimes you hear | |
| People talking in language you don't understand, but they sound like real words, and sometimes it's music, and sometimes it's people hollering at each other, and all kinds of things. | |
| So, what would you think in that situation? | |
| A lot of us, and we can imagine this, so you can almost imagine how this came about, so we're confronted with an organism, Like a frog. | |
| We've never seen the frog. | |
| And we want to know what makes the frog work. | |
| We want to know what makes the radio work. | |
| So we do the normal thing, which is we start taking the radio apart. | |
| Or we start taking the frog apart. | |
| Let's stick with the radio. | |
| So we start taking the radio apart. | |
| And when you take some of it apart, it still works. | |
| And when you take the dial apart, you realize that it still works, but it only plays one type of sound. | |
| So that gives you a clue as to how the radio works. | |
| Somehow this dial has to do with changing the character of the sound. | |
| And then somehow you find, oh, this is the cord that leads to the speaker and You disable or take out the speaker and then you don't hear any sound at all. | |
| And so you realize that this must be the voice box, equivalent to our larynx, of the radio. | |
| But you still now only have sort of the pieces of the radio. | |
| And your goal, because you're a smart person who really wants to know things, you want to know what the essence of this radio is. | |
| Where did the sound come from? | |
| Where is this sound coming from? | |
| What makes this radio work? | |
| And so you dissect it and dissect it until you come smaller and smaller and you come to a tiny little wire and you clip the wire and it never works again. | |
| And you say, that wire, that is the essence of this sound producing box. | |
| Because without that wire, you never get any sound. | |
| You can fiddle with the dials and the volume and the speakers and everything else. | |
| And if you get more sophisticated, you could make it out of a different material. | |
| You could eventually buy yourself a lab. | |
| And you could do days and weeks and months and decades and years. | |
| Years goes before decades. | |
| And centuries of study going deeper and deeper into what makes this radio work. | |
| And so it isn't just this wire, this teeny little wire. | |
| Apparently radios have little wires going from one part to another. | |
| It's actually the molecules in the wire. | |
| And so you've learned because now you really were fascinated by what makes the radio work. | |
| And so now you've got it down to individual atoms. | |
| And you figure out what the atoms are. | |
| And if you have it out of silver, then it works. | |
| And if it's gold, it doesn't work. | |
| Or iron, it works. | |
| But if it's molybdenum, then too much. | |
| It doesn't work. | |
| And you write papers on it and have academic institutions, and you create a whole scenario that the origin of this radio sound is in a smaller and smaller piece, eventually in the atoms, and that's the essence of the life of the radio. | |
| And you can actually see how this whole thing happens. | |
| It all sort of makes sense. | |
| It's all seemingly logical. | |
| It would all seem to be the next step in how you would attempt to understand how the radio works. | |
| And one of the reasons I wanted to bring this up is a lot of people, and I think it's good, I like to hear from people who say, Okay, Tom, you're very good, or at least sort of good, at dissecting the problems with modern biology and virology and cardiology, maybe, and cancer and all this stuff. | |
| And you don't take any nonsense or studies that aren't controlled and have, you know, logical errors in them. | |
| But then you start talking about essences and spirits and Whatever, and you've got no evidence for this at whatsoever. | |
| So how do you reconcile that? | |
| And I think that's a great question, because I think if we're going to do that, we need to know what we're talking about. | |
| And it's going to be hard to actually do the right kind of experiments. | |
| But I think we should try to do them as best we can. | |
| But here, the reason I wanted to start trying to answer that question by using the analogy of the radio, | |
| Is when you see the situation with the radio, we of course all know that you can look through atom by atom and you will never find the origin of the sound, because the sound doesn't come from the material of the radio. | |
| We all know that. | |
| Some radio station is producing invisible and soundless, and to these native people, non-detectable frequencies, various frequencies, which can only be picked up by a device. | |
| And I would say, let's not call that, you could say, Well, that's the spirit of the radio. | |
| But that's a goofy way of saying it, and I don't think anybody would say it like that. | |
| Let's just say that is the coherent operating principle without which a radio is a completely useless bit of organa of, well, useless matter. | |
| That's what you can say. | |
| If nobody is making radio waves, then this stuff that you organized very intricately and with great technology is completely useless. | |
| So when you think about life, and you use another example which I've talked about many times, you have a newborn baby. | |
| And then you have the two-year-old, or the baby nursing at his mother's breast. | |
| And then you have the two-year-old. | |
| And then you have a teenager playing baseball in the park. | |
| And then you have a 30-year-old walking with their beloved in the park. | |
| And then they have children, and they're 40, and they're watching and playing and romping with their own children in the same park. | |
| And then you see this same old man at 70, and his beloved maybe is with him or maybe not, and he's kind of tired, and he's sitting by himself on the park bench. | |
| And you say, is this the same person? | |
| And obviously, everybody would say, of course it's the same person, there is no doubt. | |
| But yet every bit of material, probably every atom, is different in each one of those stages. | |
| Certainly from the 70-year-old to the 3-year-old. | |
| So, you come to the inescapable conclusion that the important part of what we call this person | |
| And now we can use a lot of different words, but I would just say let's stick to the organizing coherent principle, which is the essence that animates this substance to create the experience of what we call a human being, or a frog, or a cat, or an elephant, or a bacteria, or any other living being. | |
| And I would further submit that the more you look into it, just like the most interesting part of the radio experience is not how to construct a radio. | |
| I would admit there's some interest and some difficulty, some technology and some insight for sure that goes into that. | |
| But the real essence of this experience is, which sound are you playing? | |
| And then you can even go back. | |
| It isn't even the radio waves that creates this sound. | |
| It's the person who sang the song. | |
| You could even go back further and say it's not even the person who's singing the song, it's the person who had the idea that this is the song that I want to make that then gets sung maybe by different people. | |
| So you come to the inescapable conclusion that the essence of this experience is in the creative mind of the songwriter, the composer, who created this sound, and then there was a whole lot of technology steps that made this come to life. | |
| The only really fascinating and creative and interesting and part that animates the whole experience is what led this composer to write this particular song. | |
| That's what all humans are interested in. | |
| Why did Beethoven do it like this, not like this? | |
| Why did Mozart do this? | |
| Why did this person explain virology like this, and not like some other way? | |
| That's why we listen to one thing and not another thing. | |
| Not because of the quality of our radio. | |
| And this is where all life originates, This is the essence of life. | |
| This is the interesting thing about life. | |
| And I would submit it's what causes all disease and what is the ultimate therapeutic principle that would allow people to heal any disease. | |
| And I would further submit that modern medicine and modern science and modern biology has no idea, no clue | |
| Even though it's obvious that there is even such a thing, they are derisive of it, and therefore they can never understand anything to do with life, they can never understand anything about why people get sick, and anything about why people could heal, because the most important part, the most interesting part, the controlling part, | |
| is this animating principle, and you can make a lot of different words for it, that actually controls the whole thing. | |
| So, unless we start having a science of life, which we don't have, I would say that we will get nowhere, and that's what we should be looking for, and actually find out who has some understanding. | |
| And I would also say it's not easy to know what's real in this regard. | |
| It's fraught with pitfalls, but I would also submit that the only things that really matter is that you believe that it probably is true. | |
| Not as a kind of faith, but you take a step. | |
| This makes sense to me. | |
| I am going to investigate this and see what I can find out. | |
| Because if you take that step, the world will start communicating to you, your cat, your dog, your friend, the trees. | |
| They will start speaking to you in a language which you didn't even know existed, because there is a language of life. | |
| If you have decided that there is no such thing, |
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