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July 3, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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Real Deal Special: Susan Bradford on Jesus and the NWO (2 July 2022)
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host, for a Real Deal special report with Susan Bradford, who has some fascinating observations to say about Jesus, the Bible, and current events, and the way in which illumination can be shed from historical sources on our situation today.
Susan, your thoughts.
Hi, Jim, thank you so much for hosting this program.
Yes, so my thoughts are that based upon research that I've done on Jesus, discussions I've had with some of the royals and some of those who claim to hold the sacred bloodlines, and there are quite a few of them, and also based upon Some documents from the Vatican archives.
I've come to the conclusion, and I think this is Not that I can say with all certainty, but that Jesus was the founder of God's kingdom on earth.
And it was this kingdom that our current criminal elite have tried to seize for themselves illegitimately, creating fraudulent governments and fraudulent banking systems.
And I believe that it's through our understanding of what Jesus was, what he established, And how the criminal elites have tried to usurp these claims that we have the opportunity to kind of find our way out of this system, like the criminal system that they've created around us.
Well, notwithstanding my status as an agnostic, I find all this, the very idea, fascinating, Susan.
So I'm just delighted to be featuring you today so you can elaborate on this theme.
Shall we begin with your slides?
Yes, let's proceed.
Here we go.
Okay, thank you.
So, as it has been written in Daniel 244, in the days of those kings, the God of heaven shall set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people.
It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever.
So what many people don't know, and what the Vatican and the Rothschilds who control the Vatican City of London have not divulged to us, is that Jesus established a kingdom on earth.
It was God's kingdom on earth.
That they are based upon this kingdom, you are required to have both a sacred bloodline and to be initiated in order to hold leadership position, a leadership position.
Jesus also reputedly set up the banking system like he Very good.
created the first bank of England that was funded with capital, and that capital was used to fund European monarchs who, in turn, were initiated.
They held the bloodline, and they established God's kingdom on Earth.
Very good.
Shall we continue?
Let's continue.
OK, so I'm going to try to keep things real simple so I don't lose everybody.
But the way I'm going to proceed is we're going to revisit who Jesus is and who he might actually be, how the Vatican and China forged an unholy alliance to usurp what Jesus had created.
And it's my contention that understanding the truth of what happened will set us free.
Now there are some impersonators who are claiming to have the hold of the royal bloodline.
And these are people who are wrecking havoc throughout the globe because it's through this bloodline that they have authority to rule over us as you know God's temporal authority on earth as God's on earth.
So once they acquired this right, which was not legitimately theirs to have, they have waged wars and revolutions that have toppled legitimate governments worldwide and installed their own kind of puppet regimes in their place.
So building upon that, I'd like, I'm going to show how they have reinterpreted the Bible in such a way as to give the right To rule to Confucius and his, his, his heirs, and those who followed him, and how they've tried to kind of reimagine prophecy in a way that kind of would allow China to ultimately rule over the new world order that they're trying to create.
I will then identify those who I think are potentially the true heirs of God's kingdom on earth, and also offer a few thoughts on our road to freedom and how we can reclaim our freedoms.
Susan, this is completely fascinating.
Let me ask for clarification about interpretation.
Do you mean in historical translations of the Bible, different editions, or do you mean a contemporary spokesman today reinterpreting the significance to promote a political agenda?
It's more of a political agenda.
It was reinterpreted actually about 200 years ago when they were laying the foundations for this agenda.
And they do something very similar today where they will take a passage and then they will kind of reinterpret it in such a way as to serve their own political agenda.
And their agenda was to have China ruling over the world.
Fascinating.
Shall we continue?
Sure, let's continue.
Okay, so I know we're only going to touch on some bullet points today, but for more information about some of the history that I'm going to be discussing today, you can find them in two of my books, Royal Blood Lies and Tartar Treachery, both of which are available on Amazon and also through my website, which is www.susanbradford.org.
Okay, so who was Jesus, and why are we needing to kind of revisit who he was and what his significance was?
There are currently European royals who have descended from the Merovinian bloodlines and the planet Genets, and I hope I'm not mispronouncing either, who claim to be the direct descendants of Jesus.
They believe that they are being robbed by these usurpers, these impersonators who are trying to claim authority and to claim the earth, which is not theirs to have.
So how did Jesus establish his kingdom on earth?
His bloodline, which has been referred to throughout history as a sangriel or the Holy Grail, is his alleged sacred bloodline.
And according to this mode of thinking, Jesus did not, in fact, die on the cross.
That event was kind of used for marketing purposes.
To kind of create the impression that he was able to kind of reincarnate himself to achieve resurrection.
And we'll go into that a little later.
But they're saying that Jesus did not die on the cross.
He was a mortal man who fulfilled Jewish prophecy, went on to live and sire two children.
And then he bred his bloodline into the royal family, creating a sacred bloodline that served to create God's kingdom on earth.
So according to this modality of thinking, Jesus was a direct descendant of King David, who established the royal kingdom on earth in Jerusalem, and then Jesus in turn inherited this kingdom to establish God's government on earth a thousand years later.
Now Susan, just to elaborate, this is the interpretation of the royal families of history, or are you claiming this is the correct interpretation?
I don't claim to have full and absolute knowledge of all the different variables at play, but I think it's going to get us closer to it.
There are many different bloodlines that are kind of alternatively claiming to have this sacred lineage, but I believe in the broader sense that it is correct.
Can you elaborate on specifically, are you asking me if I have a definitive history on Jesus?
Fascinating.
Let's continue.
Okay, so according to this train of thought, Jesus' life was documented by a group called the Gnostics.
This was a Jewish order of priests who lived with Jesus, they observed him, and they documented his life.
So, according to the Gnostics, they were saying that Jesus was an enlightened being, he was a mortal person, so he was not, you know, he was not God, like an actual God, and that the purpose of his life was to deliver for us a spiritual message towards liberation that would free humanity from bondage.
So he was able, as we've established, to establish God's kingdom on earth through genetics and initiation, which in turn is what is called the divine right to rule, or right, meaning that you have to pass through sacred rituals in order to achieve the level of enlightenment.
And what they're talking about, the knowledge that they're talking about, traces to Adam, the Garden of Eden, which is actually a real place.
It's in Tabriz, Persia, now Iran, which is the Garden of Eden.
And in the Garden of Eden, God provided Adam with the sacred sciences that he was to use to kind of create God's kingdom on Earth.
Now, these sciences and the knowledge of these sacred arts have been perverted by the elites who are then using them not to help mankind, but instead to oppress us.
That's fascinating.
I've always thought the Garden of Eden was in the vicinity of the Tigris-Euphrates River, but you're suggesting that's inaccurate and historically wrong.
It's in Persia.
It's in a location called Tabriz.
I hope I'm not mispronouncing it.
And you take the story to be literally true or symbolically?
No, I think the Bible is, is a doc is it's, even though it's been rewritten and reinterpreted so many times, it's meant to be to document the historical life of the, of, of, I guess, Christianity of, of the, the founders I guess, Christianity of, of the, the founders of the, of the faith of the gods of God's people.
And then it's to document their, their lineage.
And the reason that the lineage is, and is so important is that this lineage lineage is the basis for all the governments and the financial systems that currently govern the world.
There's also a spiritual message.
Because of course the story of Adam and Eve is a classic contradiction with evolutionary theory, which would have, you know, the origin of the first primitive forms of life in Africa.
And then there's a spreading migration around the world where local conditions under what's known as genetic drift cause variations that have come to be known as the various races, where anthropologists distinguish quite a few different races, which I've addressed in a book The evolution of intelligence.
Are humans the only animals with minds?
So, you know, I have been inclined myself to interpret the origin, Adam and Eve, as highly symbolic rather than as literal.
And therefore, you know, I've explored whether religion and science can be reconciled, and this would be one of the cases where, in my opinion, if we take the Genesis, Adam and Eve story literally, that it's inconsistent with evolutionary biology, which is the glue that holds together our whole understanding of life on Earth.
So this is, I'm just pointing out as a philosopher of science, Offered courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning for 35 years.
This is a point that I think anyone offering a critique of this aspect of your presentation or views would want to raise.
Can I respond to that?
Sure!
Okay, so I don't think it's inconsistent with evolution.
So it's basically documenting the lineage of a family, like of God's family, like the founders who created Judeo-Christianity.
So these were, you know, Adam and Eve were the founders of this lineage, but it pertains to a lineage, not to the full history of humanity.
A lesser important but additional argument is that if you only have Adam and Eve and you have all these sons and daughters, then it must have involved incestuous relationships, which might or might not have been viewed as morally improper.
I mean, if you're talking about the real origins of humanity or of this lineage, it's simply an additional point that could be raised that I've encountered in discussion and debate.
That's true.
That's true, and I think there are some symbolic aspects of it, because obviously a snake did not, you know, I can't imagine a snake actually speaking to Eve, but there are symbolic kind of aspects to it, and codes, like where the elites are kind of encoding different messages in the Bible.
But you're correct, it's not to be taken like literally, but there are like genetics that are established.
Snakes and apples and the like, yeah.
Correct.
Okay.
Okay, so if you can imagine, the Roman Empire was established, or as it's now established chronologically, with A.D., meaning Anno Domini, or after the death of Jesus, and B.C., before Christ.
So it's at Christ's birth, during his life, that the Roman Empire was established.
And this was done in part as the Vatican wanted to move the kingdom of Jerusalem, as established by David and Jesus, from Jerusalem over to Rome.
And they wanted to serve as God's temporal authority on Earth.
But the problem they faced is that the papacy neither had the bloodline or Or were they initiated into the faith?
In fact, the Papacy was controlled by very powerful merchants known as the Black Nobility.
In many cases, they were pagans, they were heretical, they did not believe in Jesus, but they found that paying homage to Jesus was good for PR and it allowed them to kind of operate under the mantle of honor.
In fact, the Popes were Where the template or the inspiration for Machiavelli's Prince, you know, they were Machiavellian.
So in order to try to kind of re-establish themselves as God's temporal authority on Earth, they look to St.
Peter, in which Jesus said to St.
Peter, upon this rock, my kingdom shall be built.
So they're saying that that rock would be Rome and that they therefore have the authority to establish God's kingdom, the center of God's kingdom in Rome.
So it was actually at the the Council of Nicaea in approximately around the fourth century A.D.
That Constantine and the Vatican had convened bishops who voted to elevate Jesus to God status and to claim that he was a virgin birth and had been crucified.
Now, why would this be important?
Why would they do this?
So if if they could claim that he was crucified if he died on the cross, that would eliminate any any antecedents to Jesus and any errors that would eliminate the need for for Jesus for a ruler to have had a bloodline, and therefore the Vatican could could appoint rulers.
um and uh they um uh if um they were also looking to the um the religions that they had interfaced with in central asia like buddhism um and which um and the their model for for for buddha uh or for jesus was modeled after after buddha that he he was of a virgin birth and he was able to resurrect himself
And a quality of being a god, according to Hinduism, Buddhism, and some of these other Eastern Asian religions, are that you must have the ability to reincarnate.
So therefore, they created this scenario where Jesus died and he was therefore born again in real terms, which makes him a god.
And if you want to join the higher ranks of the Illuminati, of the elite, one of the promises that they try to make is that you can have eternal life with us, immortality, that through rituals and through AI and through other types of methods that you can continue to reincarnate and therefore will live forever.
And so doing, you can become a god.
So those are the attributes that they gave to Jesus.
Go ahead.
That's really fascinating.
I mean, AI and all this stuff is, of course, relatively recent origins.
So if they were holding this view about reincarnation for centuries, say, then it cannot be because they anticipated the emergence of AI, for example.
I'm fascinated.
And the virgin birth and crucifixion you're suggesting, in fact, neither was in the historical case.
And, of course, virgin births would be another question at conflict with biology.
So where theology and biology intersect, as every priest and rabbi and pastor would agree, these are articles of faith.
That are held even in the absence of evidence or contrary to evidence as a matter of faith, which requires no scientific or empirical confirmation.
It's just fascinating how, too, they're talking about the idea of guaranteeing a form of immortality.
I find that fascinating.
Personally, I think it's a nice idea.
As Gandhi replied when he said, what did he think of Western civilization?
I think it's a good idea.
But so little has been manifest by the West in the form of civilization, you know.
I just say, you know, in my scientific orientation and as a philosopher, I've dealt with the nature of consciousness and so forth and developed a theory according to which consciousness is a causal property of causal systems of which the human brain mind is an example or illustration.
But Since consciousness is rooted in the function of the mind-brain, if the mind-brain ceases to exist, so does consciousness, and there's no opportunity for immortality.
Therefore, we're into an area that would classically be regarded as metaphysical or, of course, more conventionally theological.
Any comments on that would be welcome.
Okay, a number of, and I think those are all valid points, a number of Buddhist priests have claimed that they have been reincarnated hundreds of times and that they can continue to reincarnate until they achieve enlightenment and when they finally achieve enlightenment they don't need to reincarnate again to learn further lessons.
So, and according to some, the recorders of the Vatican, like Jesuits who observe the Buddhists, they were saying that there's a way that they could do, they could achieve this through, through blood rituals.
Like they, they were able to spirit jump and they had kind of a sort of technology or magic that enabled them to live forever.
And I think some of this was drawn from Egyptian, like from the sacred sciences of known by the Egyptians.
Fascinating.
Okay, I think we have covered these.
Okay.
Okay, I think I might have already pointed these out, but I can reiterate.
So the Vatican was controlled by by merchants who traded and who traded with traded.
We're trying to dominate trade in Central Asia.
They had partnered with the Kazarians, the Mongolians, and Turkish mercenaries who are ruthless.
They exterminated millions of people, established monopolies for their businesses, for commerce.
And then extracted the resources and minerals, becoming, you know, fabulously wealthy at the time.
So once they had financial power, they wanted political power, and they wanted the Vatican to be able to appoint rulers so that they could then, you know, use those governments and, you know, for their own personal and financial benefit.
So when the Jesuits um went into uh into central asia they attempted to convert the chinese emperors um into christianity um in order to expand the sphere of influence of the vatican um but they were very much impressed by the technology and the magic uh and some of the governance strategies of of these um chinese emperors who refused to be converted because they're saying um we don't need to rely upon
god look at what we've achieved um through our magic through our our philosophy you know we have more wealth and power than you will ever have and not only um will you will you not expend extent expand your sphere of influence into central asia but we will we will turn around and conquer all of europe we will conquer the world um and so i think that's a great question um and so i think that's a great question And so the Jesuits wanted to kind of find out what were their strategies and how were they able to become so wealthy and powerful.
And so they were allowed, the Chinese emperors allowed them to hold court.
And it was through the Chinese that the Jesuits and by extension the Vatican learned the strategies for world domination.
And that included, among other things, Exacting tribute on which we could now call taxes from the people so you essentially absorb the wealth and power upwards to yourself.
You only allow the people enough to to barely subsist and reproduce and then once you're done with them you dispose of the people there's no value for human life.
They also imposed what we would consider the Great Reset, where every person was tracked and traced from birth.
They would monitor the expenditure of that person, try to limit it to that which maximized their own financial and political gain, so that the people were assets.
They were not valued within their own right, as we would conceive that in Western civilization.
So, go ahead.
I'm very glad you're mentioning the Great Reset, because I was wondering if you would connect this to, say, the Belt and Road Initiative of China, you know, creating trade routes into Europe and so forth, as an aspect of the contemporary significance of this historical perspective you're developing for our edification and illumination.
Yes, in fact, that is part of the reason the Rothschilds wanted Israel to set up their, you know, their kingdom for the Jews.
Israel is centered in the middle of Europe, Asia, the Middle East, so it connects into the old Old Silk Roads.
It also was the former kingdom of David, but that was part of it.
They wanted to re-establish those connections with China ruling the world, and then having the political base being in Jerusalem.
So you see their game plan at work today in 2022, even though it has ancient origins.
Correct.
They're re-establishing what they had before, and they're But under new leadership.
OK, so many, many people today hold on to the idea that Jesus died on the cross and they are afraid that in any way, you know, challenging those claims would spell the end of Christianity.
I can say personally that I was raised, born, baptized, confirmed in the church.
I was also born again.
And I think there is very little that can rock my faith because I have lived and worked in faith and I know the value of God's role in my life.
He's been a great blessing to me and I still accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
I don't think that Jesus, that we need Jesus to have died for us in order for us to find the value of his message.
And I find it very interesting that when ministers try to recruit young people into Christianity, they don't ask, do you live a prayerful life?
Do you Do you follow the Ten Commandments?
Are you a person of integrity?
Rather, you must kind of recite a dogma that Jesus died with the key operating word being died.
Do you accept that he died for your sins, that he was of a virgin birth, and that he was God?
You know, he's the Trinity.
So it's almost as if the purpose of the Christian establishment is to reinforce the power of the Vatican and the Rothschilds.
They want us to believe within this framework, and then any other doctrine beyond that is up for discussion and debate, but less material for their own power.
That's quite fascinating.
More here, Susan?
Let me see.
Especially struck by the Rothschilds, which exert such an overwhelming influence on international banking and finance and who appear to be the primary force behind the great research and even the coronavirus pandemic and the Vax, which is having massive destructive influence and is expected to bring about the deaths of even billions of humans worldwide.
Yes, they're basically following the Central Asian playbook.
Throughout history, as the Jesuits observed, of the Central Asian rulers, they would exterminate vast numbers of people in Central Asia so that people would live in harmony with nature.
So if you were expendable, you were either enslaved or you were eliminated.
Fascinating.
They have kind of, you know, they've worked upon that.
And the Rothschilds, you know, as we will explain later on as we go, as we continue, they are a key player in all of this, in this agenda that is unfolding.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
Meanwhile.
Meanwhile.
Okay.
So the Christian rulers that Jesus helped establish were God's servants on earth.
So if you can imagine that the values and the power and the culture of a society is determined from the top down.
So if you have a ruler who serves God and serves the people, you'll have God's dominion established on earth.
So these were people who were, they were patrons of the art.
They supported human rights and encouraged human rights.
They sponsored the sciences in such a way that they could be used to and apply to benefit humanity.
And, you know, they promoted churches that, you know, that Would incorporate science and technologies that would uplift humanity.
So, for example, organ music was played to kind of elevate the spirit of the people, to heal them.
You know, they were true servants of God on Earth who were probably even more Christian in their view and in their conduct than the ministers who were working with the people.
So, I guess my contention would be that Jesus's message was profound and simple, that of love thy neighbor as thyself, follow God's commandments, and to align your will with God, to serve God in all that you can.
And we will have the basis for God's dominion here on Earth, a really good kingdom.
These Christian rulers were also those who codified and established common law, which is really the basis for all of our laws in Western civilization.
So we have, from Jesus, we have the basis of a nascent banking system,
We have law, human rights, and a true understanding of our own place within the wider scheme of things that helped us live as free human beings who are self-regulating and who could engage in commerce and politics as free people who not only were looking out for our own self-interest, but had the compassion, integrity, and wherewithal to look after those of other people.
Well, it's extremely interesting that you suggest the key message of Jesus was love thy neighbor as thyself or do unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is very close to the embodiment of what I take to be the most profound moral maxim, namely the Emmanuel Kant's third version of the categorical imperative, which asserts, always treat other persons as ends and never merely as means.
The emphasis on merely, never merely as means.
Examples of treating a person merely as means would include kidnapping, robbery, extortion, rape, Especially egregious examples, universally condemned as immoral actions, because they're treating other persons merely as means.
Now, means-means relationships take place all the time.
Even, you could say, husbands and wives marrying or treating one another as a means to have a family, to lead a happy, productive, fulfilling life.
as long as they aren't abusing one another in that way, deceiving, lying, cheating, and so forth, and the multiple forms that can take and respect, as it is usually referred to the sanctity of marriage, or acting in a moral and ethical as it is usually referred to the sanctity of marriage, or
Teachers and students, as long as the students using the teacher to obtain an education, the teacher, the students to have a profession, and income as long as the students are cheating on exam, not doing their homework, you know, pretending to do work they haven't done in others, pretending to do work they haven't done in others, as long as they're being respectful, as long as the teacher is being abusive to the student, extorting sex for grades as an example, or money or what have you,
Those can be perfectly ethical means-means relations.
Employer-employee, doctor-patient, lawyer-client, all are going to be analogous.
So, I think that The very idea of the simplicity of his message and its profundity parallels that third version of the categorical imperative, which means always treat other persons with respect as human beings entitled to pursue their own pursuits as long as they don't interfere with or bring harm to others.
And by the way, that interference doesn't mean I'm Not upsetting other people or hurting their feelings.
That's not a fundamental aspect of morality.
That has to do with a lesser level of propriety.
You know, generally in social interactions, that's when you have guests at your home, you don't want to insult them or literally step on their toes and so forth, where I'm sorry to say the far left has taken the whole idea of political correctness to an extreme.
That goes far beyond the bounds and requirements of morality.
In fact, it transcends and violates them by imposing forms of political correctness, even upon speech, that are far removed from the actual treating other persons with respect.
It constitutes a form of zealotry.
These are ideologues.
It's part and parcel why they're so disrespectful of law and order.
the idea of defunding the police or promoting what they call equity among races, which really means giving everyone the same, regardless of their merit, their contribution, their accomplishment, regardless of whether or not they deserve.
This is all obliterated by this.
Really, it's an ideological form of communism in one of its variations being implemented by the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.
And because we have a dolt for a president, he's being run behind the scene where it appears that Obama, Soros, and the Rothschilds are actually pulling the string.
But Obama, by virtue of his eight years of experience, is able to definitely manipulate This absolute puppet figure, Biden, whom I'm convinced is not even the real senator from Delaware, in a performing act that no serious president of the United States would ever undertake, because every single action he's taken since he entered office
Beginning with canceling the XL pipeline and permits that drill on federal land has weakened the United States economically, socially, morally, culturally.
Taking down statues, Susan!
- Or Neil just removed a bust of Abraham Lincoln from one of his libraries because somebody complained.
Well, they should have said, well, this is a part of our history and tradition.
And Lincoln was among the greatest leaders in unifying the nation.
So your claim that he had some personal defects, We all have personal defects.
Who are you to throw the first stone?
I think that should have been the Cornell attitude.
Instead, the seated removed the bust and even a copy of the Gettysburg Address, which I find profoundly wrong.
Even grossly immoral, and yet they're deferring to this progressiveness that's encompassing our nation and weakening our moral fabric and our social standing.
Very well said.
Yes, so Jesus was really like, his values were the founding of Western civilization, without which you couldn't have any commerce.
You mentioned the family, who God brings together, nothing shall tear apart.
You have to have, you know, a family rooted in values, husband and wife, who then take care of the children.
And from there, you have a stable family, stable societies.
You shouldn't be based upon, you know, passions and other things that can actually, you know, lead someone into promiscuity.
In terms of, like, develop, cultivating your own talents, you know, there's more honor to be, for somebody to be working very hard to Be the person that God has wanted them to be, to exploit the gifts that God has wanted them to have, has granted them, so that they can truly shine, rather than cheating just, you know, for the sake of money.
You know, to get more money that one might not deserve, you'd rather kind of work for that.
So, I think there is a strong basis for God and Jesus's message in current ethics and so forth.
I know that the communists you're mentioning, they're tearing apart our civilization, tearing down statues and statutes.
What they have always done, going back hundreds of years, is they erase all the history, all of the spiritual knowledge, historical knowledge, the sense of identity of who we are and how we've become who we've become.
Um, so that they can only hold that knowledge within themselves and they can define what everybody else should be according to their own kind of warped vision of humanity.
I think those are very telling points, Susan, and I would add it seems to me all that transgenderism, bisexual, gay marriage and all that, which is Anti-family.
I mean, I'm all for toleration.
And if individuals happen to have a different sexual orientation, that's okay with me.
Different strokes for different folks.
But the idea of aggressively promoting, you know, having drag shows for kindergartners.
I mean, this is absurd.
Grooming them to change sex.
Telling kids that they have the right to change their own gender.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
Uh, grotesque and morally wrong and disrespectful.
Particularly, these children are too young to be able to grant consent.
They have no idea what's being at stake here with the very idea of changing their sex, and yet they would promote this aggressively using hormone therapy or even surgery.
genital surgery for children and even insist they aren't even required to tell their parents, who obviously have the responsibility for the rub-ringing of their children until they're 18 years old.
I found all this just as immoral, grotesquely immoral as it gets, and it's happening and being promoted by what was once a responsible Democratic Party, but in my opinion, has completely lost its way.
No bearings, no sense of anchoring, no cohesive moral theory.
It's all just politics and control, and damn the consequences for the human beings who are being affected thereby.
Absolutely correct.
And this is what happens when you take morality and God out of the equation and you become all about serving the self, your pleasures, however wicked they are, indulging those.
Just pursuing wealth and power above all else without any concern for humanity.
And with this children thing, that's one of the consequences that child trafficking is very, very lucrative.
So if you don't have any value for the child and you somehow delight, take delight in hurting that child, and you have no value for the family, really people stripped of their morality can be capable of horrible things.
And I think that's what you're seeing.
Excellent, excellent.
Meanwhile.
Meanwhile.
Okay, so as I said earlier, Jesus funded the original church, the original Bank of England, and then the Knights Templar, they were charged with kind of protecting and championing this Christian bloodline.
So they protected the Holy Grail, and they established the first international banking system, one which provided credits and loans to the Christian monarchs.
So the Knights Templar, they were evolved into becoming one of the most powerful military, financial and political forces throughout Europe and they were defending these Christian bloodlines.
Now, how did somehow Rothschild take over this international banking system?
Well, the Rothschilds have their origins in Central Asia, and this is again where the Vatican and its merchants were forging new markets.
The Rothschilds, or their antecedents, connected with them through Central Asia.
And served as gatekeepers to these lucrative Chinese markets that all the rulers wanted to get into because that's where, you know, great wealth was to be had.
It was like the great game of Central Asia.
So Rothschild, you know, he has been portrayed as, you know, a poor banker who had little more than the shirt on his back, who somehow entered Frankfurt, became a banker, and somehow, through his own ingenuity, became one of the most powerful bankers in the world, founding this Rothschild dynasty.
But the truth was that the Rothschilds were in line with this agenda, this agenda to serve as God's temporal authority on Earth.
One sign of that is that the founder of the Rothschild dynasty, his name was Meyer Amschel Bauer, he changed his name to Rothschild, which means red shield, and that was a symbol that the Knights Templar had on their Well, it was one of the one of their insignias.
I can't think of the word I've had on their... Shield!
There you go, the shield.
So it's one of the ways that they identified themselves.
And by this point, the Vatican had already infiltrated and corrupted the Knights Templar.
So you've got Rothschild being connected to the European leaders through his Vatican and China connections.
He is then taking over the Templars with their financial influence and financial backing.
And he is trying to advance this agenda to create God's temporal authority on Earth.
So he draws upon some of the philosophy that and I'm going to go into this later but from Confucianism, which is through perpetual through war and revolution, that you can exploit grievances to overthrow government and then take the wealth and power of the person who is targeted.
One, the confidence of these rulers lent them money.
He kind of spurred war, which was organized through intelligence networks that were created by the Jesuits, also built upon the Mongolian post system.
These were like the precursors of the CIA, the Mossad.
So he had intelligence networks.
He had the financial backing.
He had the Vatican, and he was able to inspire the confidence of rulers, loan them money, put them in debt, spur wars from which they would need more money, and then he would eventually own their kingdoms and overthrow their kingdoms.
This seems very consistent with the theme that all wars are banker's wars, that Rothschild massively profit by funding both sides of war.
Yes, they do.
They get the war profits by both parties.
It's like the U.S.
military industrial complex is very enthusiastic about having a war with Russia, Because our profits are going to be astronomical until such point as they're wiped out by nuclear devices or other weapons of war of which they have no anticipation, because the Russians are the most powerful military nation on the face of Earth, and Western leaders seem to have failed to grasp the consequence, even though Vladimir Putin is doing his best to warn them.
Talking about the Satan 2, how one of these rockets could take out all of France, how London is going to be the first on the target list, how the United States could be – the East Coast could be nullified by a dirty bomb that would make our financial center of New York City uninhabitable for 250 years.
He's telegraphing all this, but the West is utterly unresponsive, and it's because I'm convinced The Wachowskis are behind it.
They want to promote it.
They'd like the West and NATO and Russia to be mutually annihilating so that Israel can emerge to lead the world.
That would be my conjecture, and it seems consistent with everything you're saying here, Susan.
Thank you, Joe, I would agree, I would, I would agree with everything you said that.
And I would also add that Ukraine is a great an area of great interest to them since that is the historical kingdom of the Khazars, and the kingdom of Israel, my understanding was established illegitimately.
Rothschild had agreed to set it up under a Jewish temple, but instead established a Jewish Knesset or a Rothschild Knesset.
And so now that this illegitimacy is being exposed, he's having to they're having to kind of establish a new base of power.
I believe that that is one of the underlying factors beyond the war with Ukraine.
I believe that's exactly right.
Okay, so these, the Rothschilds then wanted to be, they wanted what they didn't have, which was to have that divine, you know, right, the sacred Jesus bloodline.
So as I've said that the Rothschilds became advisors to Christian rulers, they played them off against each other.
And they specifically targeted those Christian monarchs who did not answer to the Vatican, and then ultimately all the monarchs were, with the exception of the English monarch, were overthrown, with the English monarch ultimately serving the Vatican.
The English monarch was historically the seat of Jesus within Europe.
So the person who held the British monarchy, who was the monarch, was reputed to be the defender of the faith and somebody who was standing to preserve Christianity throughout Europe.
So the grand prize for the Rothschilds was the Christian monarchy.
They were able to acquire it through the Napoleonic Wars.
Again, they funded all sides of the war.
They directed their agent, Napoleon Bonaparte, a French emperor and dictator, to target the Vatican, placing the Vatican in their debt, and therefore they controlled the Vatican.
They also targeted Great Britain, And since they have these vast intelligence networks, they were able to get knowledge that Napoleon had been defeated at the Battle of Waterloo, but they conveyed to to the Brits that that Wellington had had actually
Who is the Duke of Wellington who was representing the British interests had been defeated the stock market tanked, and then the Rothschilds were able to buy up British assets pennies on the dollar, and then purchase breeding rights into the British royal family.
And while Queen Victoria was, you know, who was monarch at the time, was not herself really legitimate, they were able to kind of breed themselves into her bloodline.
They also established for her a separate relationship with a royal who did have that Jesus bloodline, so they can kind of continue the strain.
And once they had control of Queen Victoria, which is Victoria's secret, Um, they then bred themselves into, bred her children, which were the product of Rothschild, Rothschild men, their rapes of, from, from Queen Victoria and Rothschild men who had actually raped her.
They bred themselves into other royal families throughout Europe, thereby establishing more Rothschild bloodlines.
They were breeding themselves into these Jesus bloodlines.
They then proceeded to kind of compromise those royal families to eliminate and murder those who were competition to them so that the Rothschild, they only, would hold this sacred bloodline.
Wow, Susan.
It's a good work.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
It seems to me we're seeing a replication of this pattern.
I even wonder whether, you know, all the inflation, the stock market going on here in the United States isn't yet another opportunity, where BlackRock and Vanguard seem to be the primary mechanism, which I would surmise are ultimately owned by the Rothschilds.
They want to take control of The entirety of planet Earth.
I mean, you got to admire their ambition, but not only that, the ruthless way in which they pursue its fulfillment.
That's correct.
Like many people don't know is that the federally recognized Indian tribes were created by the Rockefellers who were agents of the Rothschilds.
And through the Indian tribes, they were able to establish Section 8 or subsidize housing.
To a very, you know, extreme degree where they made a fortune through contracting and then from the model they established in Indian country they then moved on that pattern to more of the public sector, where they Okay, great.
to receive general, you know, lucrative investments in public housing.
And then eventually this became like a cottage industry where now they have so distorted the housing market that you've got these private equity funds and these government contractors who've amassed so much money working with the, you know, raw child control banks, that they're now able to you know, raw child control banks, that they're now able to turn around and buy up all the real estate and then rent it back to the people whom they've robbed through various, you know, schemes that they've set
Very, very serious stuff, Susan.
Meanwhile... Meanwhile, where are we here?
Okay, so again, a revolution and war were key strategies that they used.
So again, Marxism and communism are rooted in Confucianism.
So with Confucius, as the Jesuits observed through Confucius, that you could exploit grievances against those who had wealth and power to mobilize the mob against them and then to claim that wealth and power for yourself.
So through perpetual revolution and war you could eventually hold all of the wealth and power for yourself.
So the rational enlightenment grew out of kind of Confucianism.
This was the pursuit of wealth and power at the expense of all else and to the absence of God.
It was a rejection of the divine right to rule, which was God's kingdom on earth, And they also allowed themselves, by eliminating God, they allowed themselves to pursue every form of pleasure, no matter how degenerate or despicable, giving way to bestiality, pedophilia, all sorts of degeneracies.
And these patterns and these values were then incorporated into the new ruling classes and then kind of pushed down through the rest of society.
Wow.
So, okay.
So again, they're, they advanced the notion of reason as an alternative route to salvation, even though this is not justified through, through scripture.
So through reason, they could really kind of justify or rationalize anything as long as it Advanced their own position, they would view a morality, empathy values as as weakness and foolish.
Why would you want to treat your employees fairly when you could exploit them and generate more profits for yourself?
You know, why would you want to let your your employees generate a pension when you could you could plunder those pension funds and acquire more wealth and power for yourself?
So this was kind of a new modality of operating a business.
And this gave way to a lot of asset stripping and like where they would want to maximize the profit for themselves by eliminating waste.
And that could be waste by way of benefits for employees, reducing their wages to the least that you could get away with paying people.
You know, forcing a person to maybe do the work of three and four people so you wouldn't have to hire additional employees and give, you know, redirect your profits to to to them.
So from that, you see corporate heads not only, you know, where one time they would make maybe 30 times the average employee.
Now they're making 300, maybe a thousand times more than more than their employees, where all of the wealth and power is being kind of consolidated at the top.
And since they were able to control the governments, the governments were able to determine which companies succeeded, which failed.
They relied upon a government to capitalize their business, their businesses.
So essentially, through these public-private partnerships, they were able to establish the great monopolies that are now controlling the world and calling the shots.
And that they control these corporations through interlocking boards of directors.
And now we have really a government run by and for the corporation, which is exploiting people to a really extreme degree.
Oh, I think those are such telling points, Susan.
Really, truly significant and profound about connecting this historic personage to contemporary events.
More on Confucius and prophecy?
Okay, so again, since from the very foundation of Western society, Jesus established the divine right to rule.
So the Rothschilds, the central Asian rulers, did not hold this lineage.
So through reason, like they tried to use reason in a way they could reinterpret things to their own benefit, They argued that Confucius predated Jesus in time, and that he has prophetic knowledge, which he predicted Jesus originated from the Judaic Noahide traditions.
So they said that they're the mythical founder of China.
I don't know whether or not he existed, but they have a mythical founder of China, Fu Xi, who they claim was descended from Noah, and he created humanity and therefore established the Noahide laws that are fundamentally Confucian in origin.
By attempting to establish that God's law and prophecy originated in China, they then attempted to claim a mandate from heaven to rule that superseded the divine right to rule, thereby usurping the kingdom that Jesus had established on earth.
And you can kind of see this agenda kind of playing out by virtue of the fact that statues of Confucius and Noah were erected on the U.S.
Supreme Court, which is the highest law of the land, ultimately, you know, the adjudicator of God's law.
And there on the statue, on the architecture of the Supreme Court, you see Confucius and Noah and Moses.
You don't see Jesus or You know, other figures who they might be more appropriate for our country.
And, of course, Noah we're speaking of is of Noah's Ark and, you know, the preservation of humanity.
Or do I have that wrong?
Yeah, that would be correct.
But I guess they they view the flood as God's cleansing, a cleansing of earth, of in light of the numerous betrayals and degeneracies that people were engaging in.
But that would be that would be the Noah.
By my understanding, it's not archaeologically possible to sustain the idea of this worldwide flood, that there were local floods, and that most scholars interpret the story of Noah's Ark a bit metaphorically again.
And of course, animals two by two, how would they be fed over this long period of time?
How would they keep from devouring one another?
I mean, the whole story is laden with challenges and difficulties, but it's a wonderful myth, you know.
I mean, a story, a fairy tale, if you will, that has assumed a great deal of significance, at least symbolically, within Christian discourse.
So I'm fascinated by your illumination of the political ramifications, as it were, even for contemporary society.
Thank you.
And I think it's impossible for us at this late stage in history to really know exactly what happened to, you know, to know, but it's what the elites think.
And then like they, they then trade, you know, say that that Noah was, you know, a founder who established, you know, one of their, you know, their divine right to rule.
You know, they, they refer to like the Noahide laws, you know, elaborate on the Noahide laws.
I've never been really clear about What was at stake here in the significance of the Noahide Laws as opposed to any other, say, the Constitution or, you know, the British Common Law?
Could you elaborate upon that?
I think the significance for them was that we have common law, we have constitutional law, we have a divine law.
By claiming that they hold the mandate from heaven to rule through their claim to be descended from Noah, they are claiming that their law should supersede all others.
And I think that they could be very brutal in meting out punishment for those who violate that law.
Could you illustrate some of those severities?
This would be like stoning for adultery and some of the practices we see even in the Old Testament.
I don't think Jesus would have supported stoning a woman for adultery, but yet that would be, or locking off hands for theft and the like.
Would those be aspects of Noahide law?
I've read, I think, where beheading might be a consequence.
And I think you're right that Jesus was compassionate towards people.
The core of who he was wasn't retaliation.
And I think you're finding within these cultures, there's a lot of hatred.
They want to rule.
They despise humanity and feel that they are entitled to oppress humanity.
We are essentially a farm.
We're living on a farm that is to be harvested for their personal benefit.
And then once we've outlived our usefulness, what could cows send off to slaughter?
So I think they have very little value for us.
And those laws are kind of reflect that.
And so if I can put it kind of maybe in general terms.
There was a time when I thought execution by guillotine was humane until I discovered that the brain remains functioning for seven or eight minutes, so it's really...
Disgusting to contemplate, Susan, the horrors.
I think I'd far prefer a firing squad over decapitation under those conditions.
At least then you're dead and you're dead and you know it, rather than seven or eight minutes contemplating having been beheaded.
I mean, that's about as gruesome as it gets.
Maybe that accounts for why during the French Revolution, after the Jacobins beheaded Marie Antoinette, that they held the head up and allowed her to see her own body.
Yes, yes, yes.
Very good.
Yes, yes, yes.
Very good.
Meanwhile, true errors. True errors.
OK.
Now, some of the true errors are allegedly the lost tribes of Israel who relocated to Ireland, and these would be the Plantagenets who claim the David and Jesus lineage.
I think it's very interesting that in 1848, when the Rothschilds were financing revolutions all around Europe, communist-type revolutions around Europe to overthrow governments, that Ireland succumbed to a potato famine in that the British Rothschild controlled government would not allow any aid to be given to those, to those who were needing food.
So I think this, the potato famine may have been another effort by the Rothschilds to extinguish a rival bloodline.
The true descendants of Noah, even though the Chinese are trying to claim that descendancy, Wow.
are the French kings who descended from the Franks, who in turn descended from Noah.
So you've got, as you know, you've got today, the Rothschilds Vatican and China, you know how they forged this unholy alliance and are attempting to claim the historic biblical bloodlines and genetic history as a basis for their claim to world domination. you know how they forged this unholy alliance and are Wow, that's just fascinating.
What do you mean?
So some of the Rothschilds claim to be descended from Jesus, and you'd have to ask if Jesus did not have any heirs, how could they make such a claim?
And one Rothschild is David Rothschild, who I know that the banker, this is not the banker, this is the environmentalist, also by the name of David Rothschild.
But one, David Rothschild, who's a banker, claims to have descended from Jesus.
And you can see other Rothschilds are attempting to look like him as part of their signaling to the public that they hold the sacred bloodline and therefore are entitled to rule over humanity.
The road to freedom.
Okay, so after Rothschild, you know, they financed wars against various governments.
In their place, they established governments that are corporations that were acting as governments.
So these governments contracted for goods and services through the Vatican.
So essentially, you have the taxpayers paying into the system for the government to then give money out in the form of products and services, including war, in which the very elite contractors are able to receive the benefits, with most of the benefits going to the Rothschilds and the Vatican.
So you can see in a way that we are kind of financing our own demise because they're, you know, supporting those contracts, you know, for, you know, maybe oppressive technological systems that will impose more of a techno tyranny over us.
So governments around the world, including the United States, again, they've been established as corporations, a contract through the Vatican that claims ownership of all souls, land, resources, and life on earth, and as God's temporal authority.
So you can see if you get to peel back the layers that this claim at its foundation and throughout the layers of its bureaucracies, of its systems, that it is all based upon lies.
After the Rothschilds placed these countries in the debt, they established central banks in order to control the money supply and control the finances within those countries, and And this was based upon the financial system that was essentially established by Jesus.
Jesus was not obviously involved in central banking.
But it was that that that funding that was to establish governments in which the Rothschilds and corrupted and perverted to realign a system that was created to perpetuate God's kingdom on earth to redirect the wealth and power to get back to themselves.
So one of my conclusions from all of this would be that these elite not only lack the legitimate right to rule, the moral authority, and that since they lack that legitimacy, they can then be challenged.
You'll find illegitimacy throughout their systems.
It's not too hard to find.
Well, Susan, I gotta say, anticipating, I really did not know what to expect of our conversation about Jesus and these issues, but it's been fascinating.
You have an original cast of mind.
You did not disappoint.
And I think many are going to find this fascinating.
Including why, from the Rothschild point of view, they might believe they have an entitlement to planet Earth.
I mean, as outrageous and absurd as that sounds, I think you have provided some foundation for appreciating the peculiarity, even bizarre character, of their attitude and disposition, and combined with the ruthless manner in which they will take no prisoners.
They're willing to decimate 90 to 95% of the world's population.
We're talking about 7 or 8 billion human beings for the sake of their own domination over the planet.
It is just astounding and appalling, and we need to use every resource available to us to understand what's going on, because if we fail to do so, we'll not be able to cope and deal with it and hopefully defeat it.
Before it brings about our own extinction.
So I'm just tremendously grateful to you for this really, truly fascinating, one of the most interesting interviews I've ever had the privilege to conduct.
And I thank you so very much, Susan, for closing comments of your own.
Well, thank you so much, Jim.
It's always a pleasure talking to you.
I hope what I was trying to convey was clear.
I know I went through many different levels.
And the agenda that, you know, we are seeing playing out, it all has its origins in China.
They've been enacting the same strategies for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years.
And it has been taken over, you know, by these, well, it's been incorporated now into our systems by way of this kind of Jesus bloodline.
And so forth.
So I hope that if we can understand how we got here, the dynamics at play, who's doing it and why, and what the ramifications are, that we can find a solution to kind of push this back and reclaim our nations.
So I really appreciate it.
Very well done.
Who would have thought We'd be addressing Jesus and the Great Reset today during this conversation with you, but there it is.
There it is.
As a host of the Real Deal Special Report, I want to thank Susan Bradford for what a terrific, really fascinating and unexpected excursion through history in relation to contemporary events that are of such enormous moment to us, all the consequences of which have yet to play out, but which are filling many of us with fear, trembling, even a sense of dread over the fate of humanity.
As it is being dispatched by the ruthless Rothschild empire.
Thank you for being here.
Thanks to Susan.
Thank you so much, Jim.
Well done, Susan.
I can't thank you enough.
Oh, I appreciate it.
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