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June 28, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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DISOBEDIENT with Peter Arena (28 June 2022)
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Hi, friends and neighbors, and welcome back to Disobedient.
I'm your host, Peter Arena.
Today's guest, Dr. James Fetzer, has a long and illustrious history that began with a degree in the philosophy of science from Princeton University in 1962, where he graduated magna cum laude.
Fetzer then commenced an honorable career in the U.S.
Marine Corps, variously serving overseas and also as an artillery officer, eventually resigning his commission with the rank of captain.
He later went on to receive his Ph.D.
in philosophy of science from the University of Indiana.
A subsequent career in university teaching ended with his retirement in 2006 from the University of Minnesota Duluth.
Dr. Fetzer's bibliography is deep and extensive.
In his post-retirement years, his interests have concentrated on getting to the bottom of what are considered by many to be troublesome and patently false official narratives surrounding historical events such as the JFK assassination, the moon landings, any number of mass shootings and terror events, and of course, 9-11.
These days, Jim is a tireless news producer convening regular roundtable discussion sessions with others to take a deeper look into the news.
Hosting shows like Need to Know News, Truth vs. News, and his long-running The Raw Deal are among his current pursuits.
It is with great pleasure that I welcome Professor Jim Fetzer to Disobedient.
Jim Fetzer, welcome!
Oh, Peter, I'm delighted.
I'm probably a perfect example of your theme.
You are disobedient to the bone, dude.
I'm really upsetting the deep state.
Amazon's come after me.
I've had multiple lawsuits now.
It's completely ridiculous because what I do is specialize in bringing together groups of experts to sort these things out.
I began with JFK.
Publishing three classic books exposing the cover-up and revealing the true perps behind the scene—Assassination Science 1998, Murder in Dealey Plaza 2000, and The Great Zapruder Film Hoax 2003—or even Vince Bugliosi, the celebrated prosecutor of Charles Manson, who sought to defend the Warren Commission in a
Massive 1,500-page volume called Reclaiming History Acknowledged Mine were the only exclusively scientific books ever published on the assassination.
He got it right if he paid a little more attention.
I mean, we discovered the autopsy x-rays had been altered.
They patched a blowout at the back of the head.
They substituted another person's brain for that of JFK, who had half his brains blown out in Dealey Plaza.
They massively edited and revised a Zapruder film.
I mean, it's simply incredible.
And what's so telling here, Peter, is that once you understand how the cover-up was carried out, you recognize that many parties who have been thrown into the mix to obfuscate what actually happened here could not have done it.
The KGB couldn't have extended its reach into Bethesda Naval Hospital and alter X-rays under control of medical officers of the United States Navy and agents of the Secret Service.
Anti-Castro Cubans couldn't have substituted another person's brain for that of JFK.
The mob, the mafia, couldn't have got a hold of the Zapruder film that was subjected to editing when it was consistently in the hands of the Secret Service.
And what some of those who want to maintain its authenticity have argued is, since a chain of custody is established, there was no opportunity
Conveniently making the question that the Secret Service were in on it, because it was sent back to a secret lab, a photo lab, called Hawkeye Works adjacent to Kodak Headquarters in Rochester, New York, and then brought down to the National Photographic Interpretation Center in Washington, D.C., Sunday, following the assassination that Friday, to make a substitution with the original that had been brought in Saturday.
So they just, you know, take for granted.
In fact, when Nigel Turner, who produced this series, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, which received quite a sensational response, did an episode with my collaborators and me.
He had me address the issue of indication of Secret Service complicity, where I identified 15, including, of course, a driver pulling the limousine to the left into a hall to make sure JFK would be killed.
I mean, Peter, it's just astonishing.
So, you know, I mean, the trouble I'm causing is because the method I use is one that's guaranteed to minimize mistakes by bringing in multiple experts in fields where I myself am not.
I don't fake anything.
I mean, I have a good reason or evidence for every claim I make about all these events.
And since my retirement, In 2006, I've continued my research in these areas, founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005, was a keynote speaker at Alex Jones American Scholars Conference in June that year, where Hannity and Combs had me on to try to debunk, but I knew So much more than they, that I was able to seize control of the programs that first was with Ollie North.
He wouldn't appear on television again for four years.
And Sean Hannity, a couple of months later, tried again.
And then when that was no more successfully brought in Bill Riley, who's quite a piece of work.
Oh boy.
I'd be sitting there in a room, you know, with a bright light in my face for 30 minutes.
And Riley comes on and says, I'm going to tell the country you're a nut and hate your country.
And boom, I'm on television.
And then he adds another ad hominem.
So I'm never quite able to get back.
And, you know, I thought for quite a while that that had been a bit of a disaster.
And then subsequently in New York, I gave a speech at the Great Union Hall of Cooper Union.
The Great Hall of Cooper Union, where Abraham Lincoln had delivered one of his historic addresses.
And afterwards, Alex Jones was running a 9-11 conference at a nearby theater, where my wife and a friend of ours and I went.
And I was just astonished.
They rolled out the red carpet.
They put me up on a platform.
And just as I was sitting next to a first responder, he leaned over to me and said, It was watching you on O'Reilly that convinced me 9-11 had been an inside job.
And I thought, well, maybe, maybe it'd been worth it.
Not everybody's fallen for it.
And that's the faith you have to have in your convictions is knowing that If you're speaking your truth and you're presenting the facts as best as you possibly can, that despite the smear campaigns and the efforts of those to continue to obfuscate, that the truth does eventually percolate out and people do hear it.
Peter, I believe that, but this is the reason why the deep state is taking so many measures to censor Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.
I've had hundreds of videos taken off of YouTube.
I was booted off of Twitter without a moment's notice.
I have been massively censored, including When I began publishing a series of books about these more recent events, especially, for example, Sandy Hook, Amazon banned the book less than a month after it had been put on sale, even though we'd sold nearly 500 copies.
Now, you'd think, Peter, a bookseller would be ecstatic about a book that sells nearly 500 copies in the first month.
But instead, it was banned.
Mike Adams was the one who took the matter most seriously, did a couple of articles about it, and interviewed me.
And after our interview, it didn't show up for seven or eight weeks.
I thought maybe he'd abandoned the project.
And then lo and behold, Barrett was boom with a title, The Most Dangerous Mind in America on False Flags and Extreme Censorship.
But even Project Censored out at Simonium Estate in California has completely ignored this major development because banning books is no small matter.
And it was a gross violation of my freedom of speech and right of publication because While they seek to pretend that they're a private company and they don't have to respect the constitutional safeguard, I'm convinced they were operating on behalf of the state.
In fact, just two days before it was banned, I was contacted by a party claiming to be from First Edition, a program on television.
They wanted to learn about what we discovered about Sandy Hook, but I had to do a pre-interview interview.
And then boom, I was in a basement operation in Langley.
I have no doubt from the background and so forth, and a guy, a professional interrogator, no pleasantries.
Just, what do you got?
What do you got?
What do you got?
And I laid it out, laid it out, laid it out.
13 contributors, including six PhDs.
We established a school, been closed by 2008, that there were no students or teachers there.
What do you got?
No string of ambulances, no surge of EMTs, no medevac chopper.
What do you got?
Well, we got 50 photographs from the home where the Nancy Lonza Bedroom Show is where he's supposed to have shot his mother.
There's some red stuff on the bed, but I don't think it's actually blood.
It looks more like raspberry jam, and they forgot to remove a blue moving pad from under the leg.
What do you got?
Well, we got 50 photographs from the school where they were refurbishing to make it the stage of the event.
What do you got?
Well, we got A classic photograph that I'm going to share with you today, where the SWAT team vehicle is already in the parking lot.
You got crime scene tape, Bob.
Wayne Carver, the medical examiner, is laying against the wall with his arms folded, but The windows at Classroom 10 are not shot up, and after the event they'd been shot up.
So, I mean, this is a staggering photograph where I have done collaboration to follow up about this aspect with Brian Davidson, a private investigator who's mastered internet techniques.
Well, I tested him by just sending him the photograph with no identification because he was explaining how the instruments available on the internet would even allow you to identify where and when photographs were taken.
So I just sent it to him.
And lo and behold, he immediately located where it had been, when it had been taken.
He used shadow analysis.
Get this, Peter.
That photograph was actually, in the first edition of the book, I thought it was taken the morning of the 14th.
In the morning of the 14th and the second edition, I change it to the evening of the 13th.
But he established it actually was taken the evening of the 14th, the day of the shooting.
They just hadn't finished how they were going to fake the crime scene.
I mean, it's really astonishing.
So I'm going to share that photograph with you.
But the fact of the matter is, There's overwhelming evidence this is all fraudulent.
We even have the FEMA manual for the exercise, which I included in the book.
So now there's been a, you know, I was subjected to a lawsuit to try to suppress its access to the public because when it was banned, I released it for free as a PDF, which I believe they did not anticipate.
And by one calculation, it's been downloaded millions, perhaps as many as 10 million times.
Well, I think that the whole Sandy Hook issue is exemplary of the larger subject matter, and that is, why are these things being done?
Who is they?
And so, you know, let's dive into that a little bit, and then I think you're going to then take over with your PowerPoint presentation.
But I want to get a feel for that, because I often feel as though That's something that gets glazed over and having someone of your caliber who has assessed this in depth, you know, the names and addresses kind of thing.
Who are these people?
Why are they doing it?
What's your assessment?
Oh yeah, I'm glad to go into that in depth.
And you make a key point.
You know, I mean, I first got drawn into JFK when my wife said, you won't believe that it slipped on the TV, where I was just reading the paper and drinking a cup of coffee.
And there was this very distinguished looking man standing behind a lectern with a logo of the American Medical Association on it.
He turned out to be the editor-in-chief.
He was attacking everyone who'd ever done serious research on the assassination of JFK, and describing Oliver Stone's film JFK as docufiction.
Well, I knew so much better, and it occurred to me then that if a person of his level of distinction were to abuse their journal for political purposes, Perhaps some of us with special background and ability ought to become involved.
I already had massive editorial experience, associate editor of an international journal, Syntheas, for philosophy of science, methodology, and epistemology.
I mean, I was going to bring A level of expertise that was not commonplace.
In fact, no one really with my level of technical, philosophical, analytic ability had ever taken this on.
But I knew I needed assistance from others.
And when I followed the publications in JAMA, there was a letter complaining from a member by the name of David W. Mantic.
Who has both a PhD in physics from Wisconsin and MD from Michigan and board certified in radiation oncology, which is treatment of cancer using x-ray therapy.
So I reached out to David and suggested we collaborate on a long article or a book with which he agreed.
And we wound up bringing in others, including a world authority on the human brain, who was also an expert on wound ballistics, another PhD with a specialty in electromagnetism, who was brilliant in exposing internal evidence that the Zapruder film had been edited.
I mean evidence internal to the film, Such as when they replace a stem and three-way sign, they put it in the wrong place.
So you can see, you know, blatant, even independent of the fact that they covered up the blowout at the back of the head, where I discovered way back further frames, I suspected that while they focus so much on frames related to 313 and thereabout in covering it up, maybe they'd overlooked it was visible in later frames that I found it in 374.
You can actually see the blowout at the back of his head.
As Jackie is just starting to climb out on the porch to go after a chunk of Jack's skull and brains, which he held in her hand all the way to Parkland.
And then in the most poignant moment of the assassination, Peter, after they had pried Jack's morbid body out of her arms and she collected herself, she entered a trauma room one and turned to the anesthesiologist.
Pepper Jenkins extended her hand and asked, will this help?
She knew so much about culture, music, production, theater, art.
She knew nothing about brains, brain surgery, ballistics, wounds.
I mean, you know, it was such a touching moment.
So again, so basically you've got this overwhelming preponderance of evidence that basically Is a is built a mountain that you stand on with regard to disputing the official narrative.
Back to this original question with regard to who is behind these things.
I don't want to spend a lot of time because I know you want to get into your give me a thumb some thumbnails.
Why?
Why?
Yeah.
Some nail sketches.
Well, in the case of JFK, I mean, he'd pissed off some very powerful forces, threatening to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.
He was going to withdraw our troops out of Vietnam.
He was cutting the oil depletion allowance.
He was circumventing the Fed.
He didn't want Israel to have nuclear weapons.
Anti-Castro Cubans thought he had betrayed them.
We've identified eight different shooters in each of these different groups.
Think of them as the sponsors of the assassination.
They appear to have their own shooter.
We've got a Dallas cop, a Dallas deputy sheriff.
We've got an anti-Castro Cuban.
We've got an Air Force expert.
We've got Lyndon Johnson's personal hitman.
We've got a representative of Israel from the Bronsman family up in Toronto.
I mean, this was really to get Jack out and replace him with Lyndon Johnson, who was actually the mastermind behind the entire event.
He actually put himself on the ticket in 1960 in Los Angeles.
Phil Nelson has a single best book about this entitled LBJ Mastermind of JFK's Assassination.
When it comes to 9-11, this is basically an Israeli op.
It appears to have originated in the 1980s in the mind of Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Umar, both of whom were prime ministers of Israel, to have an event that could be used to justify the entry of American military into the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran, I've also done work on the Pallob Wellstone plane crash.
That was done because he was a conscience of the Senate opposing the Bush and Cheney on Iraq.
And Cheney even personally threatened him and told him there would be severe ramifications if he were to oppose them on Iraq, not only for him personally, but for the state of Minnesota.
What could be more severe than killing The senator, his wife, two of his kids, his aides, and the two pilots.
I mean, and I'm telling you, that was done in a very sophisticated manner by drawing the plane off course into an area where they had an electromagnetic field set up.
So it popped all the computerized components on the plane and put it into a glide mode where it was destined to crash.
And then they repaired the fuselage to burn as it did it for seven hours.
They couldn't extinguish To destroy all the evidence, because if you had found some of those computerized components, which include navigation, communication, stall warning, they couldn't understand why the props were on below idle, because that was an effect of taking control of the plane away by putting it into this electromagnetic field.
Then when it came to Sandy Hook, You know, in the beginning, I wasn't drawn into it immediately, but I was in a columnist for the Veterans Today, and Gordon Duff, who was the senior editor, asked me.
He said they had evidence that there'd been a Israeli involvement that there have been a couple of men dressed as nuns that they departed the area in a white van had gone back to Greenwich Village where they had a safe house that was loaded with Nazi paraphernalia.
So he wanted me to write this and I It's one of the few, not exclusive, I'm sorry to say, blunders I've made by following his lead.
I knew he had connection with the CIA.
He even informed me he was being groomed at one point to be the director.
But I thought this was appropriate.
I didn't actually say it had been a Mossad hit.
I said there was evidence raising the question, for which I've never been forgiven.
Because shortly thereafter, The evidence began coming out it was just a stage.
It came apart at the seams and you were led down you were led down this primrose path.
Right exactly and I began publishing oh my goodness I mean I must have published 40, 50 articles a book about Sandy Hook and all that now got embroiled in these lawsuits.
But beyond that, the Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, Las Vegas, now more recently Buffalo, Uvalde, every one of those was a stage of it.
And I have books already on most of them, which are the ones Amazon, Peter, has banned six of my books.
Can you believe?
I mean, that's the indoor record.
Dr. Seuss had some diagrams of a little Asian girl with slits for eyes so that the liberal left went wild over that.
He's also had six books banned, but they were for trivial reasons.
Mine were not.
He banned Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, Orlando, Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, and even my Moon book.
And I suppose nobody went to the Moon either, which Mike Palachuk, my series editor, suggested as a response one might make to hearing the title of our first book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
And I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
Well, we didn't go to the moon.
We didn't go to the moon.
Everyone who's taken a good look at that understands.
But the fact is, this is an Obama operation.
Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Eric Holder, all were involved in planning this.
Eric Holder traveled to Connecticut, met with Governor Malloy on the 27th of November to tell him basically they were going to take an abandoned school and conduct a drill and present it as mass murder to promote gun control.
And they went from there.
The whole community was involved, I'm telling you.
It was a group effort, and they got paid off extensively.
In fact, they received between $27 and $130 million in donations from sympathetic but gullible Americans, Peter, which if you divide by the 26 families, that's between one and five mil for pretending to have a child who died at Sandy Hook.
And I'll just tell you, this fraud is so massive and they're so blatant about it.
The woman Donna Soto, who was the lead plaintiff against Remington, is a crisis actor who also played the role of Susan Brough, the mother of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville.
Totally fraudulent.
One of the allegedly deceased teachers, Vicky Soto, who's been, you know, I mean, it's just insulting in our face, Peter.
of playing the role of the deceased wife of the guy who'd run the drill at Uvalde two months earlier, but it was Vicky Soto.
I mean, she came down and did a reprise of her role.
And I will venture to say she got big bucks for doing that.
I mean, it's just insulting in our face, Peter, insulting.
Well, these are basically acting troops and they're moving around.
You know, there's a light on conspiracies, Oleg Domogar.
He's kind of talked about this sort of thing, where effectively, you know, he'll concentrate more on these European false flag events, where effectively, you got these acting troops that are participating in this kind of plot That they just keep on repeating over and over with the EMTs and the police and the ambulances and the cars and the trucks and the people, somebody laying on a stretcher, the shoes being blown off, et cetera, et cetera.
It's almost like it's very canned.
Go ahead.
Oh, Peter, you're exactly right.
Ollie's a good friend of mine.
We've done many ventures together, collaborated in research and Interestingly, as an aside, Oli designed the cover of my Moonrock books.
Oli's a super good guy, and I celebrate him.
Another, I believe, who's also making major contributions is Nick Holstrom from the UK, who is a leading expert on the London 7-7 subway bombings, where his book on that subject is now in, I don't know, its seventh printing.
Nick's a brilliant guy.
So the three of us may be, you know, the most active and aggressive and going after.
Nick has a book about False Flag Chronicles, a European perspective, where he talks about 13 fake events that occurred in the UK and on the continent.
But that's also, by the way, available at Moonrock Books.
Excellent, excellent.
Well, without further ado, would you like to dive into your PowerPoint presentation?
Sure, let's do it, Peter.
Ryan Davidson and I created a Volkswagen Stage Event Checklist Here you can find it on my blog as a guide for detective and exposing stage events and false flag being used to deceive and manipulate the public.
I encourage everyone to share as far and wide as they can.
You can find this at jamesfetzer.org.
The author is collectively of 40 plus years of private investigative research and critical analysis of politically significant but factually anomalous events where aspects are puzzling because they don't add up and where consideration must be given to whether they've been staged or faked and blamed on other parties to promote an agenda such as gun control.
So here are some rules of thumb, Peter, that Brian and I suggest, which means they're highly reliable but therefore infallible evidential indicators.
In other words, you might have a very odd situation where they weren't satisfied and yet it was a real event, but I think the probability of that is approximately zero.
Here are some early signs right off the bat.
No surge of EMTs, no swing of ambulances, no medevac choppers called.
Authentic public medical resources, as a rule, don't participate in stage events because they may be needed for bona fide medical emergencies.
So you do not see them at Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Orlando, Parkland, Las Vegas, Buffalo, or Uvalde.
There's no string of EMTs, no string of ambulances, no meds.
That's because there are no real casualties.
And in Boston, Peter, the police wouldn't even allow real MDs to approach the victims who were amputee crisis actors.
I mean, who thinks of that?
They use amputee crisis actors.
In Boston, there was a line of ambulances blocks away that were never allowed to come to the site.
They sat there.
There's video evidence of them just sitting there waiting to be called and nobody ever comes.
Well, let me tell you how bad Boston is.
You had police on Bullfords bellowing.
This is a drill.
This is a drill.
And the Boston Globe was tweeting that a demonstration bomb would be set off during the marathon for the benefit of bomb squad activities.
And another that it would be set off in one minute opposite the library.
And one minute later, opposite the library, there was one of these Demonstration bombs.
And you mentioned, Ambassador, I was an artillery officer.
I can assure you these were for theatrical purpose.
They weren't powerful enough to kill anyone unless perhaps you were sitting right on top of them.
And when you zoomed in through the smoke, you could see bodies lying there missing arms and legs.
Yes, but there was no blood.
And as Dr. Lorraine Davis emphasized, you cannot have extremities blown off by explosives and there be no blood, which only showed up later.
And it came out of these little orange duffel bags, Peter.
There were five or six in the area when it was over.
There were five or six over when it was over.
And I'll have to, you know, Meanwhile, then we have further sources of confirmation.
There's no blood.
Nobody's a dead shooter.
See, if he's dead, right, then he can't explain what happened.
He can't be interrogated.
It's Sandy Hullock.
Not even the parents were permitted to see their children who identified using photographs, apparently because, for the most part, they only existed in the form of photographs.
In Boston, initially no blood, as I mentioned, which only showed up and came out of small orange duffel bags.
In Parkland, we have a 57-second video showing a black training dummy with no head and no arms on a pool of fake blood and fake cops rushing in and out to boot.
And Peter, I've got that queued up to share it with you.
Further proofs, conflicting stories, crisis actors, instant publicity.
We'll take Uvalde.
Conflicting stories.
Uvalde was modeled after Sandy Hook.
So instead of Adam Lanza shooting his mother and then going to an elementary and killing 20 kids and six adults, in Uvalde he's shooting his grandmother and then going to a school and shooting up 19 second, third, and fourth graders.
I mean, how ridiculous is that?
And we got conflicting stories.
One that all the shooting occurred outside the building.
Another that he'd been apprehended alive.
One that he crashed his vehicle, his truck, into the school building.
Another he crashed it into this little Culvert, where actually, I mean, there was so much nonsense.
And I've already mentioned how we had Vicky Soto come down and make a guest appearance, a reprise down in Uvalde.
Buffalo, by the way, was modeled after the New Zealand shootings.
So you got the guy driving around in his car, he's got a weapon, it's a fake weapon, it's all painted up.
There's no cartridge ejection in either case.
He's firing at individual, but there's no impact.
They're even falling in the wrong direction.
Their body's stacked up before they've been shot.
In Yuval, they even turns to a body on the ground and fires point-blank, but instead of the head blowing apart like a melon, you just get a whiff of air.
I mean, you mean in Buffalo?
You mean in Buffalo?
Yeah, Buffalo.
Thank you.
That's right.
In Buffalo.
Very good, Peter.
So instant publicity, right?
There are these calls for gun control immediately from the parents who are not displaying appropriate signs of grief, but tell they're not in a state of grief by promoting a political agenda.
Orlando was egregious.
At Sandy Hook, donation sites were set up before the alleged shooting had even taken place in Buffalo.
The day before.
Yeah, a black eyewitness reported speaking with a white supremacist shooter for an hour the previous day and was reporting the timing of the shot to the 10th of a second.
He said, well, yeah, the second shot was 1.7 seconds after the first.
Peter, how absurd.
Would he have a stopwatch right there?
How could he know?
He wouldn't know when the first shot was going to happen, much less to start his stopwatch.
And as a colleague of mine observed when we were discussing this, What self-respecting white supremacist is going to spend an hour talking with a black guy about critical race theory as this guy insisted had done?
In Uvalde, we had two dads for the same kid, and they had the same last name.
You know what?
My parents divorced.
I had a stepfather, but his name was Scott.
It wasn't Fetzer.
But in this case, the two dads both had the same last name, meaning they just had a monster glitch.
It's just a little incestuous town, you see.
I like that, Peter.
And then we had a school teacher from Sandy Hook making an appearance in Uvalde, too, as I've mentioned.
If you want further corroboration, there tends to be no investigation.
Calls for action all about gun control.
Massive coverage.
When every talking head is giving the same pitch about the horrific shooting and demand for gun control, where most of these are designed to promote the Democrat gun control agenda, often with a complicity of local law enforcement and even of the FBI, It becomes entirely apparent this was a stage event to promote a political agenda.
An egregious example was a Jussie Smollett hate crime timed to benefit the anti-lynching bill of Kamala Harris and Cory Booker.
And then we add example.
I mean, my colleague here, Brian Davidson, did a frame-by-frame of the Buffalo shooting.
I give you links.
We did a couple coverage on Uvalde with the raw deal.
Training videos, these are really important.
Reviewing a dozen or more of these cases with quick takes exposing how we know they're fake.
How to spot a false like part one.
How to spot a false like part two.
I did a review of the same with Dr. Catherine Horton, who has a PhD in particle physics from Oxford.
And who has led the legal case against targeting individuals to attack them with electromagnetic devices of which she herself has been a target.
She is now married to Bill Binney, our nation's leading cyber security expert, who outed the download at the DNC as having occurred in the Eastern time zone at a rate far too rapid to have been Russian hacking.
Seth Rich appears to have paid for his life for doing that.
Binney is beyond reproach.
He's an authority that I think no one can actually ever question the authenticity of.
Peter, I agree, and I was just delighted to do a Fourth of July special with the two of them.
And I began organizing conferences on falsifying conspiracies, and that from 2020 is available on my blog.
There are other resources, my own blog and my BitChute channel.
Background.
Disarming law-abiding citizens does not make them more secure.
The nonsense being peddled by President of the past Democrat administration would bring about a minimum of 200,000 additional deaths of Americans every year by depriving them of the defensive use of guns, which the gun grabbers and their allies in the media do not report.
But it would make the U.S.
easier to invade by a foreign power, which may be the point.
And I have a rather nice overview about the Second Amendment and the politics of gun control, where many of these can be found on my blog, James Fetrodotto, by looking for a show I did from May of 2020 to November of 2020 called Jim the Conspiracy Guy.
I have a small viewership, but it was expensive, $100 a month, so I just transferred the shows, the 65 shows I'd done to my blog.
And it includes a lot of those I'm mentioning here.
So, if you went to jamesfetzer.org, Jim, the conspiracy guy, the 65, shows you could get a lot.
Remember, too, about that use of the phrase conspiracy theorist.
Those who expose the false flags in stage events are liable to be attacked as conspiracy theorists, which is a form of self-defense by the government.
Conspiracy theorists are exposing crimes the government does not want to expose, because more often than not, they lead back to the government.
Don't let yourself be played.
If you know what's going on, then you should be a conspiracy theorist, a conspiracy analyst, or a conspiracy realist.
And I have several publications you can download where I explain the application of scientific reasoning to sort these out.
Thinking about conspiracy theories, JFK and 9-11.
What's wrong with conspiracy theories, Anne?
Conspiracy theories are investigating crimes.
No wonder they want to silence us.
And of course, this is a background about me and Brian.
As a former Marine Corps officer, retired university professor, offered courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning for 35 years.
I have been a serious student of conspiracies and false flags in 1992, pioneering collaborative research by bringing together experts in different disciplines to sort things out.
24 plus books in traditional academic area, 12 plus in conspiracy research, six of which have been banned.
By Amazon.com, I currently have a petition pending before the U.S.
Supreme Court.
Brian Davidson, PI, has been a licensed private investigator in Texas for 10 years, conducted seminars related to open source intelligence research, contributed research related to Sandy Hook, the Buffalo shooting, the Pulse nightclub, and others.
His company, Panoramic Investigations, is a general investigation firm that has handled many aspects of investigations from criminal defense, fraud, property crime, murder, bank robbery, and others as well.
He can be reached at 832-304-3577, his website, panoramicinvestigation.com.
He currently operates an international secure tip line related to Uvalde, where tips can be sent anonymously, uvaldetipsatproton.me.
And Peter, just to give you a chance to work a few words in edgewise, thoughts about all of the above?
You're muted.
You're muted.
The first thing I'm remembering is the late great Mike Rupert saying, I don't deal in conspiracy theories, I deal in conspiracy fact.
And, you know, there's so much there's so much going on here, where You have a lot of this repetitive behavior in the pattern recognition that your checklist is hearkening to.
You're effectively bringing up that there are these telltale signs.
and behaviors and pattern recognition that you're allowed to assemble that basically it's not one bit of evidence here or there.
It is these converging lines of evidence that we have a tapestry that say we have a case and we are able to demonstrate it.
Yeah, and I have a special affection for Michael Rupert.
He, of course, published a book based on publicly available sources, Crossing the Rubicon, establishing that Dick Cheney was the on-ground executive director of 9-11 from a bunker beneath the White House.
And people may find that hard to believe, but it is the fact.
Not only that, but his From the Wilderness newsletter published the NTSB failed wellstone where I flew John B. Costello, PhD, the guy is an expert in electromagnetism, up to Duluth, where the crash only occurred 60 miles north of my office, and we were tramping around in snow at 35 below zero temperature and picking up pieces of the charred wreckage that I would then have analyzed by
A professor of chemistry emeritus who explained that the temperatures to which these components have been exposed were far greater than would have been the case had there's been an ordinary fuselage fire of a plane.
I mean, the wings carry the fuel and they were broken off when it came into a wooded area.
So was the tail.
So the idea there'd be this fire that would burn intensely for seven hours and be unable to be extinguished meant they had prepped it Manganese, maybe nanothermite paint, something like that.
Reminiscent of the Twin Towers, basically.
Well, in a way, yeah.
Though that turns out to be more complicated.
We were told they collapsed, but I realized at the time I was again just Lying at home, reading the paper, drinking a cup of coffee, when one of our daughters called us from Bradenton, Florida, and tells us, turn on the TV, and we turn on there with the Twin Towers, and the North was smoking.
And I think we saw the explosion, but no plane, in relation to the South.
And when they described this as a collapse, I knew this wasn't even physically possible.
And I said to myself, and I remember so clearly, Peter, This is impossible, but when will I ever be in a position to do anything about it?
Well, it turned out in December 2005, I was in the midst of an email exchange with about two dozen experts talking about 9-11, and it occurred to me founding a society as a loose affiliation among experts across nations in different areas could make a difference.
And we wound up, you know, I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth, You can find the archived website at 911scholars.org.
We still have a discussion forum at 911scholars.ning.com where you can get access to many very significant documents like The affidavit of John Lear, who is our nation's most distinguished pilot, how it was impossible for planes traveling at the speed we see in the videos to have hit the South Tower because it exceeded their structural limitations.
The planes would have come apart in the air, and at that speed the air is three times denser than it is at 35,000 feet, where they seem to have taken the cruising speed And just assumed at 35,000 feet, assumed it could be done at 700 to 1000.
He explained how, because the air was so dense, the turbines couldn't suck it through the engines and start functioning as brakes.
But there's no collision effects there.
I mean, you know.
You can't violate Newton's laws.
Everyone talks about the velocity of the plane, but they don't talk about the massive resistance a building would oppose because they would have crumbled external to the building.
Body seats, luggage fall into the ground.
Well, we have photo videos of the ground.
There's nothing there.
And while the engines would have included, they actually planted a fake engine at Church and Murray under a canopy, undamaged, under steel scaffolding, undamaged, just sitting on the sidewalk, undamaged.
If something that massive at high velocity had hit the sidewalk, it would have plowed it up.
And Jack White, who is a dear colleague of mine from JFK, who also became interested in 9-11 and the moon landing, by the way, discovered Fox News footage where he got a white van at that intersection, and five or six minute FBI vests are unloading something heavy, and it's clearly this engine, which was antiquated.
There are components that are visible that meant it was not an engine that was in service at the time.
This is one more way in which they muck things up, Peter.
But the government is so powerful, you know.
I had an interesting interview with a fellow by the name of James Files, of whom you may have heard.
Files claims to have fired the shot that entered Jack's right temple.
Now, I have a better candidate for that in Frank Sturgis, and I know the detective who arrested Sturgis when he came to New York to murder Marita Lawrence so she wouldn't testify for the House Select Committee when he was reinvestigating the case in 77-78, and where Sturgis admitted shooting Jack.
Files told me—we had a wonderful dinner, he and his wife and I, and they published several books about Files' role in this.
According to his story, he twice mentioned to me how once a government stakes out a claim, it's stuck with it.
It just sticks with it.
It will never change.
So as in the case of 9-11, the FBI came up with that list of the 19 alleged Islamic hijackers and the fact that a half a dozen or more turned up alive and well the following day didn't affect them.
They've never made any change.
In fact, we have all this additional evidence about altering the evidence, the x-rays and all that for JFK.
The government has never changed.
And I believe, and I shared this subsequently with his wife, because I like this guy tremendously.
We actually hit it off.
He gave me Here's a sign of James Files for having killed a JFK.
I concluded that he was a designated second gunman, that the House Committee said there'd been a second shooter, as though it were just by coincidence.
But there were actually, as I said, eight gunmen at eight different locations, and James Files was not among them.
But he tells a very convincing story, and I believe he's playing that role.
But I like the guy.
It's very ironic, Peter, because I like this guy tremendously.
I'd be glad to continue a relationship.
But, but, you know, I, I, I'm not sure he, he continues to feel that way.
We initially hit it off so well.
Let me share some, some more.
Well, while you're, while you're pulling that up, I'm, uh, one thing I'm thinking about here is pulling back the view since we've got, uh, the, the narrative that, that you've been presenting our listeners here today, Jim Fetzer, is that, uh, you've got a lot of, uh, you know, all, all these different.
episodes of of false flags and perpetrated False narratives and the assassination plots and terror plots, all this stuff is taking place within the context of corrupt elements within the government.
And I think back to, you know, where is this stuff starting?
And you get, I get to thinking about things like post World War Two, Europe with Operation Gladio.
And that's just, you know, the United States and the, you know, the Anglo-Zio-American kind of triumvirate of powers that are doing their dirty deeds through MI6, CIA, Mossad, and the NATO forces and the DOD, etc.
This stuff is not just kind of coming out of nowhere.
I think we get a lot of pushback from people because they're like, well, that's that's just insane, because that can't possibly have happened.
It's like this has been happening all along for for decades, if not centuries, maybe millennia for, you know, somebody really wanted to dig into this sort of thing.
And so you're making very telling points, Peter.
Yes.
All this is the Outcome of a developmental sequence that spanned many, many decades.
And there's no question whatsoever that Barack Obama was very instrumental here.
He appears to have been nurtured by the CIA to be their president.
George Herbert Walker Bush, remember, was a director of the CIA.
George Herbert Walker Bush was in Dallas during George Herbert Walker Bush was supervising the Anticorraso Cube, and it was in the Daltex building, using a Mannlicher Carcano to fire three shots to set up the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
George Herbert Walker Bush was arrested coming out of the Daltex.
He even brought W with him, and we have photographs of him kind of at a loss, because he has no idea where his father is.
So when Ronald Reagan was shot, It wasn't by John Hinckley.
It was by a Secret Service agent pushing Reagan in, shot him under the armpit with a flechette that barely missed his heart to transmit the message, let George do it.
So you're spot on, Peter.
I couldn't agree more.
And that the CIA has become a malignant cancer on the body politics of the United States of America.
And anyone who resists, who would have them dispatched, as JFK was planning to do, he was going to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces, runs the risk of suffering the consequences, as did he.
Right, and the malignancy of the CIA in recent years, particularly the last decade, is, as you have noted, a byproduct of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act and its implications.
You want to fill us in a little bit on that?
Oh yeah, that's a very astute observation, yes.
The Smith-Munn Act of 1948 precluded the use of the same techniques of propaganda and disinformation the agency was using abroad within the United States.
And that would include, you know, paid riots, staged events, shootings, assassinations, the like, because the CIA was going wild.
If you ever look at the history of coups and assassinations, omitted uprising by the agency.
I mean, it's longer than your arm.
I mean, the list just goes on and on and on.
Up until 2012, they could not use those same techniques within the United States.
But then by the Smith Modernization Act of 2012, Barack Obama reversed that and legalized all these staged events within the United States.
So, you know, it was just in time to bring a Sandy Hook.
And then it's going to be followed by the Boston bombing, Orlando, Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, Las Vegas.
Buffalo, you vaulting?
I guarantee 100% you can find my research on the internet.
All of those were staged events, and they were all directed to induce fear into the American people.
They were faux terrorism.
Meaning fake or staged terrorism, but they were acts of terrorism nonetheless, which are events that are calculated to instill fear into a population and make it more easier to manipulate, to promote a political agenda.
That's exactly what's been going on here.
All right, Jim Fetzer, let's continue with your presentation.
I interrupted you.
Oh, that's not a problem, Peter.
I'm glad, because you are raising a really important point.
Well, here's that key photograph I talked about.
Now, notice here, you have this crime scene team already there.
Notice the crime scene tape up.
Here you have Wayne Carver with his arms folded, waving the rival of his portable mortuary tent.
Here you have that string of windows in Classroom 10 that is the tell.
These are not shot up.
The second in particular would be blown out after the event.
So you have crime scene tape up for a crime that whose scenario has yet to be completed.
As I said, I originally thought this was the evening of the 13th.
But Brian, based on shadow analysis, has been able to establish it was actually the evening of the 14th.
Here you can see the windows before, as they are in that photograph, and the windows after when they're blown out.
And here you see some perps looking at the window frame trying to figure out what they're going to do about it.
And what they did was actually drill holes in the aluminum.
Now, There's no way in which these were caused by bullet holes.
And then they inserted pink rods, knowing how they're all perfectly parallel, 90 degrees to the window frame.
This is a stage event.
Let me add, by the way, not only did Brian discover The image I sent him had come from a magazine.
He got into the Connecticut State Police files.
This is the image from the Connecticut State Police files, which is among the proof we have that the Connecticut State Police were running the whole event at Sandy Hook behind the scene.
And guess what?
They removed all the metadata.
By removing the metadata, you can't know exactly where and when the photograph was taken unless you undertake analysis such as Brian did with the shadows.
But that's consciousness of guilt.
That's roof-up consciousness of guilt.
Here you can even see how furniture is all shoved up against the wall.
There's no way this was a functioning open or operating school at the time of the event.
There's a storeroom.
Yeah, it was being used for storage.
That's right.
Many former teachers, when we had these videos up, and we had them up for months and months, would comment that's what they do with an abandoned school.
They use it for storage.
Well, here we have about Parkland, just to illustrate.
They made some glitches at Parkland, too.
For example, it occurred on February 14th, which was Valentine's Day, but they forgot to put up the obituary.
So the only one up at this point, and this is, you know, about a month later, it was for Alice Levinson.
It was an 84-year-old woman who obviously wasn't a student at Parkland.
But I mentioned we have a 47-second video from inside one of the classrooms, and here you can see how they faked it at Parkland.
This is a training dummy.
It has no arms and no head in a pool of fake blood, just as they had fake blood at Parkland.
So look at this, Peter.
And how the kids, the girls are trying to scream as though they were really in fear, but they don't do a good job of it.
One's worried about her bottled water and others on her iPod.
You got a kid pulling his pots, none of which would be appropriate if they were actually in fear.
So take a look at this.
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
- Let's go, let's go, let's go. - On the wall. - On the wall. - On the wall. - On the wall. - On the wall. - On the wall. - Oh my God. - Son of a bitch. - Oh my God. - Son of a bitch. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Now Peter, you might think that Parkland cops were really Johnny on the spot because they were there, but it turns out Parkland gave up its police force in 2004.
These were actors in police uniforms.
Just take another look how phony it is.
You got a student holding his arm.
Well, that's ridiculous.
You got a cop carrying out a student allegedly wounded.
You should have EMTs and ambulances there.
This is all totally fraudulent.
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I've always noticed how these sorts of Candid video recordings seem to be pointed downward.
They seem to be pointed downward.
I saw that in Uvalde, the concerned father standing outside by the buses with the other parents, never really lifting the camera up high enough to see the faces of anyone else around them, always showing the ground and the feet and the torsos of people.
Yeah, yeah, that's very good.
Just an observation of mine.
It may get awkward to identify so they could be as witnesses or subpoenaed, but this is totally fake.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz was concerned because the Imran Awan scandal in Congress where she'd allowed her Pakistani IT guy to spy on the members of Congress using her authority as cover.
And she was worried they were going to lose as many as 11 Democrat seats in Florida alone.
So they needed something to divert attention.
It turns out that the March for Our Lives in Washington, D.C., which closed all the roadways, they had a whole bunch of major events, they had hundreds of t-shirts, coffee cups, and all that, which ostensibly was inspired by Parkland, but it was only a few weeks later, and as some have observed, there wasn't enough time to put together a bake sale at a church,
In the amount of time between Barclay and the March for Our Lives, by the Metropolitan Police Department requirements, you have to submit a permit 160 days, 180 days, six months in advance.
So they'd actually permitted for this event back in October, September, October, for the shooting that would only occur on Valentine's Day.
And by the way, because it was a holiday, they sent all the students home at one o'clock.
There were 3,500 students there.
And if they'd still been around, we'd have all kinds of cell phone video photographs and they don't exist because they were controlling access to the scene.
So your points are really extremely on target.
Meanwhile, let me say a bit about Sandy Hook.
I have a lot of blogs about it.
This is rather telling here, the photographs at the top.
This is the image that was sent around the world.
But here's a photograph that was taken minutes earlier.
And you notice they've rearranged the kids in the line.
This little boy, number one, was moved up to be number one.
This little girl in the pink sweater, I think she's obfuscated here to get a better shot.
And in this earlier photographs, and there are larger versions, and you can see many more parents are already there.
They're just standing around with their hands in their pockets, their arms folded, unconcerned, nonchalant.
Even have a couple parents here in the background looking on so casually.
I've been led to call this photograph lounging at the massacre.
I mean, it's just proof this is fraudulent.
You can find on my blog the Sandy Hook Posner vs. Fefzer lawsuit for dummies.
If nobody died at Sandy Hook, then any death certificate for victims of the purported shooting must be fabrication.
This is not rocket science, moreover.
Research conducted since the publication of Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, second edition, 2016, has confirmed the conjecture initially advanced by Kelly Watt that the party called NP for Noah Posner in the complaint is a fiction made up of photographs of one Michael Vabner, said to be the older stepbrother of Noah, but one and the same person shown in the many photograph published by the plaintiff himself.
My legal response was in my answer, but take a look.
Kelly thought he looked... Michael Vadner, supposed to be his older stepbrother or half-brother, looked a lot like Noah.
Well, not only did his discovery look like Noah, he was Noah.
I mean, here you have a superposition where you see Noah turn into Michael Vadner.
Age progression of sorts.
Yeah, well, it's just fine.
They just took photographs of Michael Vabner when he was a kid and used them for the fictional entity known as Noah Bosner.
Now, I am under a court order not to reaffirm any declaration about the death certificate, so please understand I'm merely describing what the case was about.
I am not reaffirming those statements that were in the book.
Meanwhile, there was a wonderful review of it, the only review I know, actually, by a fellow named Brian Wright, who reported how the story first came his way via Mike Adams, and his report on Amazon was getting into the book banning business.
Which to me proved that whatever the book's point was, was worth looking into.
So I released the book as a PDF and made it freely available, so he's read the book.
He found that copy editing and formatting lessons stellar, but it's well organized, the content bona fide, touches all the bases and answers the hard questions.
Get this, his summary overview To an epistemological certainty, Sandy Hook was not real.
Nobody real died.
Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill with the purpose of generating support for an extreme gun control and federal power agenda.
This review will simply catalog the main factual data that demonstrates the certainty.
489 students minus 20 equals 469, plus 70 staff and teachers.
Nowhere to be found.
No evacuation.
The benefits of those who participate have been substantial.
Well, they've hauled in between 27 and 130 mil, as I explained before, or in excess of a million.
New evidence keep popping up.
Look at this.
This is Noah Posner celebrating his birthday.
Count the candles, Peter.
Noah is supposed to have died at the age of six.
He was supposed to have been the youngest.
Well, here's Noah, clearly older, celebrating his eighth birthday.
Seven candles.
How bad is that?
And notice on the lower right who publishes, Lenny Posner, the very guy whom I insist is not.
Lenny Posner is just a legal fiction, just as Noah Posner is a legal fiction.
Lenny Posner's real name is Reuben Vabner, and he could have a bona fide A blood parental relationship to Michael Vabner because Michael Vabner was Ruben Vabner's son.
And it was Michael Vabner whose photographs as a child were the basis for the photographs of Noah Bosner.
But here we see Little Noah's alive and well-celebrated his eighth birthday.
In fact, Michael Vabner has adopted the career of a stand-up comic, and he's performing in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
So I was subjected to a trial.
The judge found me liable, in my opinion.
He violated my rights.
But it turns out it was consistent with Wisconsin practice that Wisconsin has a summary judgment procedure that lets your right to be violated where the judge has the right to declare any evidence he finds to be subjectively unreasonable to just set it aside.
So I might have liked to have been in Rolling Stone, but not actually under these circumstances, where Sandy Hook's father wore a $450,000 conspiracy theorist suit.
Defendant James Fetzer wrote, actually edited, Nobody Died at San Diego, a 450-page book claiming the horrific massacre of 20 children never happened.
Actually, it was a FEMA drill.
Well, I've gone so far as to work my way through the Wisconsin courts, and I now have a petition pending before the United States Supreme Court.
You can check it out on the Supreme Court docket under Fetzer v. Posner.
All the cases up to now were Posner v. Fetzer, where I'm explaining that this methodology was corrupt.
On my givesendgo.com funding Fetzer website, I explain My petition is on the docket of the Supreme Court.
I originally believed it was a First and Second Amendment case.
The summary judgment protocols in Wisconsin allowed the judge to decide whether or not my facts were reasonable and exclude them if, in his subjective opinion, they were not.
As you will see from my petition, which you can download to your own desktop here, the Court of Appeals for the Fourth District and the Wisconsin Supreme Court agreed.
In other states, such as Texas, however, the case against me would have been tossed or sent to a jury for determination of the disputed facts.
But in Wisconsin, the court could, in effect, determine the facts regardless of my evidence.
It turns out this is a national problem, and I'm keying up the case for SCOTUS to make summary judgment protocols uniform throughout the nation.
I believe they are going to do just that and set things right.
When I published Nobody Died at San Diego as a Femur Drill to Promote Gun Control, 2015, second edition, 2016, with 13 contributors, including six PhD professors.
Amazon.com banned the book less than a month later, even though it had sold nearly 500 copies.
I released it for free as a PDF.
Mike Adams wrote about it.
The Most Dangerous Mind in America and False Flags and Extreme Censorship.
Those are all linked from my Givesendgo.com slash fundingfetzer site.
Peter, I gotta say.
There's so much material here, we may or may not want to bifurcate and have me back to continue unless you want to go full on.
Yeah, I'm happy to have you come back, Jim.
I would love to have you be able to expand on what you're talking about and do a part two for our conversation, if you like.
We can probably wrap this up.
It's been about an hour now, and that's usually a pretty good length for an interview.
Yes, yes.
It is packed with so much content that I don't want to overwhelm our viewers.
I want them to appreciate.
And of course, if anyone thinks my suit has merit, you can visit givecentgo.com funding fencer.
And if you want to contribute, I've got the law on my side.
I've got the evidence on my side, but I have legal fees and I had to qualify as a pauper to submit pro se.
I had to show I couldn't afford a lawyer, but I still have legal bills that accumulate and that I still owe.
And if anyone's willing to lend a hand, I'd be most grateful and appreciative.
And what about this award of $450,000?
What has come of that?
Well, it's a judgment hanging over my head.
So that actually just on Friday, there was an oral hearing because they're attempting to take the book.
Nobody died at Sandy Hook.
Now, there was the original edition.
It was published by CreateSpace, which is a subsidiary of Amazon.com.
Then there's a PDF I released.
And then there's a band edition published by Moonrock Books.
And there's a second edition published by Moonrock Books.
They also are going after four domain names.
I own none of the domain names.
Dave Gehary, who's a publisher of Moonrock Book, owns the domain name for my blog, but I don't own it.
I don't own any of those four books.
Dave Gehary owns, I believe, at the very least, the second, third, and fourth of those four, and yet the judge ruled they were entitled to all of them on Friday, which means I'm now You know, incurring additional legal views.
I'm doing my best to fight the good fight and expose all this.
And I really do believe I have excellent prospects with the Supreme Court.
We shall see.
But it's now past the point where Posner had the opportunity to respond.
That came and went on the 21st.
So now it's a hand up.
40 law clerks for the Supreme Court who evaluate cases and make recommendations to the court.
And if four or more believe this is worthy, then they issue a writ of certiorari and schedule an oral hearing where each side has 30 minutes to speak.
And honestly, Peter, I believe they'll do this because it turns out that as a retired professor of law observed, abuse of summary judgment is the major judicial problem across the United States.
So this would be an opportunity to make it uniform throughout the states to cease the abuse of the citizens of Wisconsin who every day are being subjected to ongoing abuse by this improper methodology and to reverse my course and exonerate me from it's not just a 450.
Because I tried to get a witness to show that the individual who'd come and testified under the name of Leonard Posner wasn't actually Leonard Posner.
I was held in contempt of court and awarded attorney fees in a case where Bosner claimed they were doing it pro bono another 650,000.
So I'm actually in the hole for 1.1 mil plus.
But if this is reversed, I don't owe any of that.
They're trying to collect, they can't go against any other assets, so they're trying to move against the book.
But they're either undervaluing it, I mean overvaluing it, because when it can't be marketed, and right now it can't be marketed because of court orders and a settlement between the publisher and Posner, it has no value.
So how can that be used to offset 1.1 million plus?
Indeed.
In addition, it turns out the proper procedures say only financial, only money can be used to offset a monetary award.
Well, these books are intellectual property.
The right way to do it is to appoint a receiver who then gets expert estimates.
But if you were to base it, Peter, upon the sales of nearly 500 copies that month it was on sale, the value of the book would be not what they had suggested 100 or 125,000, period.
But 100, 125,000 a month!
A month!
Because if I could get this book, that would be what would, and that's justified on the basis of the actual sale of the book at the time.
Right, right.
Leonard Posner, or In quotation marks.
Is he the same fellow who was also the plaintiff with Wolfgang Halbig and Alex Jones as well?
It seems as though he's like the elected attack dog.
That's very good.
Yeah, you got the right idea, Peter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's also the leader at Internet, going through the Internet to take down everything that deals with Sandy Hook.
Which, by the way, you know, during the trial for damages he made out, he'd had a relapse, a PTSD, because after suffering the death of his son, my, you know, somehow my publishing four sentences Disputing the authenticity of his death certificate, sentences are not allowed under court order to reaffirm that this brought back, well, one of the signs of PTSD is avoidance behavior of anything that stimulates your recollection of what had caused you the grief in the first place.
But he showed precisely the opposite behavior, going very aggressively and using as an instrument his promise.
A foundation collecting charities.
There's a Sandy Hook Promise.
There's a HONR network.
He's used as an instrument.
He's brought all kinds of copyright claims.
He was after me again and again for even using any photographs of Noah, even though they were in the public press.
I mean, it's been outrageous, but he is the attack dog.
You got it exactly right.
All right, Dr. Jim Fetzer, we have probably exhausted this hour's efforts, and we've come to a point where I think we can close this and then agree to meet for another session, where I would be very pleased and grateful to have you come back on and complete your presentation.
And we'll do that relatively soon.
But until then, yeah, yeah, I appreciate you very much.
So we're going to call this, we're going to call it a wrap and we'll talk to you soon.
And thank you again for coming on Disobedient.
My great pleasure.
I'm very disobedient.
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