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Jan. 3, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (3 January 2022) with Jonathan Wichmann, GOP candidate for Governor of WI
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Not just anybody.
Help!
You know I need someone.
Help!
When I was young, so much younger than today.
I never needed anybody's help in any way.
But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
But now I find, I've changed my mind.
I've opened up the doors.
feeling down. I like to appreciate your being around. Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you please, please help me?
Please.
Hey everybody, this is Mitch.
Can't hear Jim.
It looks like his mute is on.
So hopefully Jim can unmute his microphone here and on Skype.
And you'll be right back.
There we go.
Alright, thanks, thanks, thanks.
I hadn't realized I'd muted on Skype, right?
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Well, here we are back with a raw deal in 2022.
This is the beginning of a new year that we hope will be far better than 2021 for human beings and other living things.
2021 is probably the worst year humanity has had to cope with.
There may be some exceptions, but considering this is generated by human intervention with a fake pandemic being promoted till we get the VAX, we're in a desperate plight.
I do have another candidate for Governor of Wisconsin with me here today because his schedule only allows him to join us for an hour.
I will be moving up the caller section to the start of the second hour so you can ask questions of the candidate who looks to me like a very strong candidate, particularly given the background that I'll be presenting here about the red wave that is going to be sweeping the nation in 2022.
So stand by for that.
I'll bring him in after the break.
Meanwhile, we have an Indiana Life Insurance CEO reporting deaths are up 40% among persons ages 18 to 64.
This is stunning.
The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company One America said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working age people.
We are seeing right now the highest death rates we have seen in the history of the business, not just at One America.
And by the way, in the past, you know, I've reported that the fact that life insurance companies weren't having to adjust their premiums last year, for example, is an indication that we weren't actually suffering additional deaths from COVID-19.
What we're seeing here are deaths brought about by the jab.
The data, he reports, is consistent across every player in the business.
OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company with its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877.
They have 2,400 employees.
They sell life insurance, including group, to employers in the state.
The increase in death, he says, represents a huge, huge number.
It's not elderly.
People who are dying, but primarily working age people, 18 to 64, who are employees of companies that have group life insurance through One America, which is how he knows, because they're getting all the claims.
What we saw in just the third quarter, we're seeing continue into the fourth, is that death rates are up 40% of what they were pre-pandemic.
Just to give you an idea how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be a 10% increase over a pre-pandemic, so 40% is just unheard of.
He's one of several business leaders speaking during a virtual news conference on December 30th organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce.
Most of the claims for death are not classified as COVID-19.
What the data is showing to us is that deaths being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working age people from the pandemic.
It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.
Let me add, He may not be aware, but the CDC has made it the practice now to count a person as still unvaccinated for two weeks after they've had the vax, knowing full well that most of the deaths and reactions occur in the first two weeks.
At least there's a huge wave in the first two weeks.
So those who are dying in the first two weeks, even though they have been vaccinated, Are being counted as unvaccinated.
This is just one of the many schemes that the CDC is using to conceal the murder of Americans and of the decimation of the world's population using these lethal injections.
So it would be good for some of those in the industry to be paying perhaps a bit closer attention.
So this guy seems very sophisticated.
He said at the same time, the company has seen an uptick in disability claims, saying at first it was short term and now the increase is in long term.
This is not surprising at all.
Again, this is a kind of damage.
These are the adverse effects from the from the VAX, which include heart attacks, brain damage, liver, all kinds of organ damage.
I mean, the host and the list of it, there must be 36 categories in which there are adverse medical effects.
For one, America, we expect the cost of this to be well over a hundred million, and this is our smallest business, so it's having a huge impact on that.
The cost will be passed on to employers purchasing group life insurance policies who will have to pay higher premiums.
The CDC weekly death count, which reflects the information on death certificates and has a lag of six to eight weeks or longer, shown for the week ending November 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID in Indiana compared to a year ago, 195 versus 336, but more deaths from other causes, 1,350 versus 1,319.
They were people of all ages.
but more deaths from other causes, 1,350 versus 1,319.
They were people of all ages.
However, for working age people, that is the most stunning aspect.
At the same conference, Brian Tabor, the president of the Indiana Hospital Organization, said hospitals across the state were being flooded with patients with many different conditions.
And this appears to be because what happens with this vax is it destroys your immune system And it makes you vulnerable to a whole host of other issues.
We know all the reports of periocarditis and heart conditions are leading to heart attacks and the deaths of athletes in the prime of their lives on the soccer fields of Europe.
And it's happening really across the board.
There's all kinds of horror stories taking place here that we need to understand.
I'm very pleased that the candidate we're going to be featuring today is anti-vax.
So I think that's an excellent and a great commendation.
Meanwhile, politics goes on where Washington, this Biden administration, which is virtually everyone knows is a fake administration, came on the basis of a stolen election.
That they had a phony pre-recorded inauguration.
They're using a soundstage in the Eisenhower Administrative Building to conduct press conference where Biden reads from a teleprompter and it's not even the real Joe.
If you have caught my top 10 stories for 2021, the very first story is laying out a host of evidence that this is not the Joe Biden from Delaware of 35 years of attempting to become a president of the United States.
Well, with three campaigns, he never won a single caucus or a single primary, mind you, over three attempts to run for president.
Joe Biden never won a single caucus or a single primary until South Carolina, when Jim Clyburn endorsed him, and where it appears that Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Google, and all that turned out to manipulate the vote, where Zuckerberg appears to have shelled out Hundreds of millions of dollars to get poll workers in who are completely unqualified but knew how to destroy Trump ballots and promote Biden ballots, even multiply them, because they were stealing this election every which way from Sunday.
It was absolutely stunning.
Well, since they feel that the Vax is lagging, that not everyone they want to have Vax is going to, has Vax yet, They're going to move toward that objective aggressively.
And here's the latest plan.
Get this.
Joe Biden, and as I say, not the real Joe.
If you take a look at the first 10, you know, you see they have different facial features.
They even have completely different jaws and skulls, different types of skulls.
Now, that's not a property anyone can vary.
So if you got two different types of skulls, you got two different people, even if they're both going by the same name.
And a pharmacist who spends his time comparing signatures to make sure they're legal so that drug addicts, for example, don't improperly acquire prescription drugs, discover their signatures are completely different.
Completely different.
I lay out the evidence there.
You can find it on my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer.
Go there, take a look at the top ten stories.
I did three different versions.
One on Truth vs. News with Scott Bennett and Holly Seliger.
Then I did another with Louisa.
Actually, that was the first on the Goldfish Report.
And then I did one right here on the raw deal with Danny Serra.
So you know where of I speak.
Biden just threatened a shocking new mandate, leaving jaws on the floor.
Biden is the captain of a sinking ship.
His approval ratings are in the gutter, and his only response has been to double down on unpopular COVID restrictions.
They just threatened a shocking new mandate.
He's flirting with mandate vaccines for airline travel.
His unconstitutional vaccine mandate for employers is already being challenged in court.
The Supreme Court is going to be hearing it, I believe, on Thursday.
He's moving full speed ahead.
The airlines could soon ban customers who can't prove their vaccine status.
Here's a report from The Hill, which, as most of you are aware, is published for the benefit of those who work on Capitol Hill.
President Biden said Tuesday he'd impose a mandate for America to be vaccinated to travel domestically if his medical team recommends it.
When asked when he would make a decision on domestic travel vaccine requirements while out for a walk at Rehoboth Beach in Delaware, Biden told reporters, when I get a recommendation from a medical team, The idea of mandating coronavirus vaccine for domestic travel has been bounced around the administration for months, and the emergence of the Omicron variant caused the White House to revisit questions over whether to impose it.
Now, the Omicron seems to be very mild.
I think there may have been one death that's been officially attributed to Omicron in the United States so far, and you can count on that having been manufactured itself, because they're making up these death certificates.
They're giving the hospitals lots of money for every patient they put on a ventilator and every patient they identify as COVID.
So this is a money-making business for the hospital.
Something has to be done about that.
They have an incentivization program to kill their patients.
It is outrageous.
The science on air travel is out.
COVID is not being passed on airplanes because they have these very sophisticated filters circulating clean air.
In fact, we had three heads of airlines testify to Congress why mandate's vaccine requirements for domestic air travel were really scientifically unwarranted.
But they could care less.
Biden and the COVID regime are not following the science.
Last month, he said he'd wait for the scientific community to give him a recommendation when asked if consideration had been given to domestic flights requiring tests or vaccines.
His chief medical advisor, Tony the Rat, on Monday cleaned up his previous remarks on a mandate after he said Sunday anything that could get people more vaccinated would be welcome when asked for his thoughts on domestic travel.
Biden and Fauci are making it up as they go along.
His mandate is to force countless Americans out of work, including frontline farmers and military personnel.
In one ridiculous instance, an army chaplain was denied a medical exemption.
Might as well be a religious exemption.
The COVID regime has shown that propriety is controlled, not public health.
Foushee was far behind the science regarding school closures, largely ignored other health risks associated with lockdowns, which include a whole host of additional stress, isolation, depression, suicide, drug addiction, divorces.
It's all gone skyrocketing with the lockdowns and the other mandates.
Coursing people to get the vax and travel domestically would be a frightening escalation by the Biden regime, but you can count on it happening.
They're doing everything they can.
The Biden administration isn't controlled by this guy who masquerades as a president.
They're puppets behind the scene.
We know among them is Barack Hussein Obama, but I believe he himself is under the control of what ultimately tracks back to the Rothschild banking industry.
Now, there's a wonderful article I've just published on my blog at jamesfetzer.org.
About how those who are owning and controlling the medical industry here in the United States are BlackRock and Vanguard, which are mega organizations.
They also have a tremendous control over the media, which you might initially think contradicts my assertion that the Rothschilds are behind it.
But guess what?
Who is a principal stockholder in Vanguard and BlackRock?
Yes, the Rothschilds.
And as I've already reported, they own both the AP and Reuters.
And of course, as I've endlessly reported, the media is completely dominated by dual U.S.-Israeli citizens, and their allegiance and control would be to and by the Rothschilds.
Mark my words, the Rothschilds take credit for creating Israel.
I have a panel of over 100 executives from CNN, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, another panel of 100 executives from NBC, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, another panel of 100 executives from the New York Times, no less, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
No wonder you cannot trust the fake news.
It is propaganda.
Historically, the balance for disinformation has been 80% accurate and true to 20% payload of false information.
But I believe today what we're getting from the mainstream is almost the opposite.
If you can find 20% true and accurate reports in the mainstream today, I would be very surprised.
I would suggest close to 80% is nothing but propaganda, a.k.a.
bullshit.
Trump did us a tremendous good by calling out the fake news media, and events like the Jussie Smollett scandal I think are going to have tremendous impact, because here it was on such a small scale that unlike 9-11 or Sandy Hook, for example, The public can actually wrap its mind around the absurdity of this black guy coming out of a Subway store at 2 a.m.
with a tuna sandwich and being assaulted by two rednecks who just happened to be there at 2 a.m.
on the coldest day in Chicago, a polar vortex.
Carrying a bottle of bleach, which is mostly water, would have been frozen solid, and a noose, and they were wearing masks, and they were insulting him, and calling him out for being a gay guy.
How could you tell by looking at Jussie Smollett, even though he's black and you can discern that he's also gay, much less that it turns out he's also Jewish?
Jewish?
Think of the combo for victimhood there.
Black, gay, Jewish, all claiming victim status repeatedly over and over again, where the timing appears to have been to support the woman whom I believe is his aunt.
In fact, Kamala Harris's anti-lynching bill.
Co-sponsored with Cory Booker, which no one in the Senate thought was actually necessary.
So they pull off this stunt and then immediately Kamala declares it to be a modern-day lynching.
Hence, vote for my bill.
It's been exposed now.
Jussie's been convicted of five and six charges.
Everyone can see the absurdity of the whole scenario.
We're even paid for the event with a $3,500 personal check.
Ever the two who attacked him were Nigerian bodybuilders, one of whom was Jussie Smalls personal trainer, the other an extra on the set of Empire, where he was.
I can't imagine he was a distinguished actor, but he's been given the boot in any case and where the.
Former Commissioner of the Chicago Police said that one of the tells was that Jussie's sandwich remained intact.
He said normally someone who's assaulted in a situation like this, they forget altogether about what they were doing, but there it was completely intact.
And another, that Jussie still had the noose around his neck, where the commissioner, who was also black, said he doesn't know if a black man in America would let a noose stay around his neck for a millisecond once it had been placed around it.
So Jesse was impugning his own integrity.
Surprise, surprise.
What I like about this is that you have a hoax that everyone can see as a hoax.
So now they begin to appreciate, oh, maybe there are hoaxes that are performed for political purposes.
Number two, it was carried by the mainstream media.
In fact, there are 45 different instances when Democrats were promoting the hoax, saying how much they were concerned about Jesse, how hateful it was for someone to be subjected to a Racist or homo and homophobic attack.
When, as I say, the whole idea of being able to look at a black guy coming out of a subway just so he surely had to be wearing a mask himself and tell even that he was that he was homophobic is just ridiculous beyond belief.
And then third, it contradicts all Democratic Party critical race theory line that we have two populations in the US, the oppressors and the oppressed, and the oppressors are the white people.
and the oppressed or everyone else, including the blacks and the gays and the Jews. I mean,
it just shows this is all poppycock, poppycock, complete and utter nonsense.
Now we have further signs by the way, since the public's catching up and the disgust with
this president administration is well reflected by the enthusiasm for the slogan.
Let's go, Brandon, which occurred when at a football game, the crowd was all chanting.
If Joe Biden and the reporter was embarrassed and said to explain what they were chanting, let's go, Brandon.
So now we even had a trickster got onto the phone with Joe Biden, the fake Joe, of course, in the Oval Office, except probably not in the real Oval Office since he doesn't seem to spend any time there whatsoever, and actually said to him, let's go, Brandon.
And Joe Biden said, you know, yes, yes.
In fact, we have this meme where Jill is saying, oh my God, please stop.
Now he thinks his name is Brandon.
Well, we got hats, we got shirts, we got everything else.
Wonderful stuff.
I think let's go.
Brandon is going to be the theme of the 2022 election.
Here we have a new poll showing signs for a Republican sweep in 2022.
And this is just one of many.
This is coming from John Zogby, who's done a lot of polling for Democrats.
Independent voters.
This is now independent voters prefer Republicans.
We take control of both the House and the Senate.
Overwhelming 18-point margin between those who preferred the GOP have control and those who preferred continued Democratic.
Those who describe themselves as independent, 45% said they wanted Republicans in control.
Only 27% wanted Democrats.
That left 28% who were unsure which party, but I expect those are going to split in a similar fashion.
The poll's generic ballot about congressional seats found Republican held the preference with an advantage of 46 to 43 in a statement when the poll was released.
Zogby said, in my four decades of polling, Democrats need about a five percentage point advantage in nationwide congressional preference in order to maintain a majority of Congress.
With a three point Republican lead and a substantial lead among independent signs are pointing today at the possibility of a big Republican advantage going into 2022.
There are many, even Democrats, predicting it's going to be a bloodbath.
We saw what happened in Virginia when this guy, you know, defeated Terry McAuliffe, a buddy of Hillary's.
The whole campaign was built around attacking Donald Trump, who wasn't even on the ballot.
Parents for resisting critical race theory, saying parents had no role to play in the schools.
Youngkin, who ran against him, was very supportive of parents.
He said a lot of things that parents wanted to hear.
He won a victory.
He dumped the Democrat, bringing into office not only himself as a white man, as governor, but a black woman as lieutenant governor and Hispanic as attorney general.
You think There'd be celebration in the Democratic Party for diversity, but it only counts if the diversity is Democrat party members.
In my floor, there he says, at the same time, Biden could be able to glean positive news from this poll, where his own approval rating was higher than in other polls taken recently.
46% said they approved, 52%.
I've seen other numbers much, much worse.
Before Biden was down to 38.
Believe me, he's not going to survive.
Those numbers are going to continue to drop.
Biden's overall numbers are borderline at 46%, but with 40% strong disapproval, Zogby emphasizes 40% of those who responded to the poll said they strongly disapproved of what Biden's doing in the White House.
His room for growth is severely limited.
Compounding the challenge to Biden turning the tables is that only 20% who responded said they strongly approved of his performance.
Biden, of course, entered with high hopes for himself, making good numbers of people happy.
They quickly deteriorated when he took major actions and botched other decisions.
First came the massive multi-trillion dollar stimulus passage.
a package passed in the spring via budget reconciliation that many have said was just
unnecessary.
It sent billions to many Americans, but is at least partially to blame for the huge spike
in inflation.
He botched the military withdrawal from Afghanistan.
They're still having to answer for the fallout for that.
Remember, his first act in office was to cancel the XL pipeline, and he's taken other measures
that took us from having a strong economy, where the lowest earning wage earners were
seeing their wages rise at this highest rate because Trump was cracking down on the border
so the migrants weren't flowing across the border to steal the jobs from the lowest earning
wage earners.
Where Erasmus and Poll in December of 2019 showed 40% of black likely voters were going to vote for Trump.
The holiday shopping season, moreover, the backlog in the supply chain left many without the goods they need, and all this is not even to mention the pandemic, the fact that not even Biden and his liberal team have been able to get under control.
The numbers say the pandemic may be at the worst it's been over the two years it's been here in the United States.
Not only that, but get this, And I'll return to this after I interview our guest today.
The latest data released by the Census Bureau confirms a leftist state's worst night where people are flooding out of the left-wing states like California, New York, and Illinois.
They're sick of it.
They're tired of it.
They don't want any more of it.
I'm predicting The Republicans are going to take at least 100 seats in the House and three or four Senate seats, and many gubernatorial races.
where I'll be introducing a second candidate for governor of Wisconsin here right after our break.
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Today I'm featuring the second in a series of candidates for governor of Wisconsin, whom
I believe is going to benefit from the red wave, but where there are a number, quite
a few, who see the opportunity here as being so exceptionally promising.
For GOP candidates, this candidate, Jonathan Wickman, appears to be highly qualified for the position.
He has a degree in business administration from Ottawa University, including management information systems, minoring in marketing.
That would all be highly beneficial.
He's a small business owner and entrepreneur.
He's dedicated himself to learning from other professionals, To make correct financial predictions in anticipation.
People like Peter Schiff and Ron Paul.
That will, I think, be welcome news to many.
He wants to see the state of Wisconsin thrive.
I could not agree more with him about that.
And there are various aspects of his policies that I think are going to be extremely appealing to residents of Wisconsin.
Not just balancing the budget and building a Wisconsin rainy day fund, but the secure economics and Wisconsin food independence.
That's great.
I think food is going to be a problem.
Remember, we have a deputy secretary of the Treasury declaring that the supply chain problems aren't going to be fixed until every American is vaxxed, which is completely and totally outrageous.
He does not support mandatory vaccines.
He believes everyone has the right to manage their own health.
He's pro-cannabis, will work to legalize for medical use.
He's opened a conversation about cannabis for general use.
I've long believed the war on drugs was a calamitous failure.
By artificially propping up the price of drugs, they make the drug cartels powerful and more influential.
The best move, in my opinion, and I will ask Jonathan about this, would be to get rid of the war on drugs altogether.
and make everyone responsible for their same activity. Just because drugs were made legal
doesn't mean there are a whole lot of people who are going to rush out to become heroin addicts,
for example. Jonathan, I'm very impressed by your background and your program. I think you've got a
wonderful website, wickmanforgovernor.com. Check it out, everyone. Jonathan Wickman, join me here.
I'm delighted to have you. Jim, thank you so much for having me on. I'm just so pleased.
Give us a little background on how you got drawn into politics, so I can think of many, many reasons.
And may I ask, since you got your degree in Ottawa, were you born Canadian or U.S.?
No, no, U.S., U.S.-born.
Yeah, born and raised and lived in Wisconsin all my life.
It's a satellite school in Brookfield, you know, Ottawa University.
So it allowed me to actually work my way through college so I didn't come out with all the debt of my family.
And the best book I ever read was Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
I don't know.
Kiyosaki and how not to take on debt, you know, for, for expenses and liabilities if
you don't have to.
I think you, you agree with me, Jim, the Americans are under such a heavy burden of debt, obviously
even at a national level, that it's going to really be the death of us and our nation
if we don't get a handle on it.
But I guess, go ahead.
No, I was going to say, thank you for that awesome introduction, by the way.
That was very nice of you.
Well, you're, you're, you're in my opinion, a highly qualified candidate.
You actually have a background suitable for the office to which you aspire.
Let me mention other aspects of your agenda, of your platform, which I also endorse.
I fully support law enforcement and our veterans.
I'll work on a plan to make the VA system better to ensure no veteran is forgotten or homeless.
I support legal immigration.
I'll always protect our borders.
I want to end homelessness in our cities.
All of that is very appropriate.
Shutting down sex trafficking in Milwaukee, strengthening education and teachers.
Jonathan, I think this is a highly commendable series of principles and platform for you to run on.
I like it a lot.
I think the Democrats did themselves a measurable damage by promoting the defund the police movement.
Which is now, you know, not only leading to a rise of crime, what did they think when they took more law enforcement off of the street that there would be a decrease in crime?
I mean, how idiotic!
And now we see these organized looting activities in high-end stores where they come up in a caravan of vehicles and each one goes in and carries out around $1,000 worth or more.
It's outrageous!
And the problem I see, Jonathan, is once you've let the toothpaste out of the tube, I don't see how you easily get it back, meaning that a civilized society, you know, hangs by a thread.
You might even call it a thin blue line.
And when you take away the blue line, I think that the increase in lawlessness is just going to continue unabated.
It's going to be very, very difficult to contain it.
It will take decades to undo the damage the Democrats have wrought in such a short period of time.
Jonathan.
Right.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, Jim.
So let me answer your question, how I got involved in the running for governor.
I've been watching.
I'm no stranger to politics.
I actually was a volunteer on Ron Paul's presidential bid.
And for the record, I'm not a fan of the two party system.
You know, in a way, I believe it's kind of controlled opposition.
Uh, it keeps voters being able to point their finger at, you know, the other party and blame them, uh, for the problems.
So I was, you know, I'm, I'm homeschooled, right?
I was homeschooled all the way up to college and I was taught critical thinking.
And I really went on a mission to understand, you know, how the world really operates.
And I think everyone understands this, you know, it's money that makes the world go around.
So early on, I learned to follow the money and you'll get to the truth of the matter.
So, you know, 13 years ago I was watching what I call the controlled demolition of America.
And I'm sure your audience and listeners understand there is, in fact, a global agenda to remove the sovereignty, not just of America, but of all nations, but America specifically, because our founding fathers were very smart, wise men.
And when they formulated and set up the constitution, it was a great experiment for humanity where the individual had rights, right?
And under your own strength and power and a blessing of God, you were able to go out on your own into this world and make something for yourself.
And that's really what made America great.
There wasn't this overbearing government telling you every step of the way what you had to do.
However, the other thing, the beginning of our demise, in my opinion, in research was 1913, the creation of the Federal Reserve.
So our founding fathers wanted us to operate on an honest monetary system backed by something real and tangible, gold and silver, right?
And it keeps the federal and state budgets in alignment with the actual taxation that they could actually get out of the citizens, the productivity.
And I always say, the moment we left that, that was the beginning of the end.
And it's true.
So when we were sold out and went to a debt-based monetary system, we saw the deficits and the budget, you know, keep expending, keep going on and on, the debt going higher and higher.
And that has a terrible burden upon the people.
And so as we came to, you know, unsustainable numbers and that's where we're at now, I just did a podcast last week and I was going over the debt numbers and how this really comes into play with the budget is that right now, I don't want people to know this, but they did a study.
A Gallup poll and people make it under $40,000 a year in 2020 with everything that went down, there was the inflation that's coming now.
A severe hardship is impacting 28% of Americans.
So that, you know, out of 258 million adults, that's 72 million people in America that are experiencing a severe hardship right now.
And of the 160 million employed, that's 45 million people that are experiencing that hardship.
So, you know, this is only going to get worse.
And that's why I had to jump in the race, especially when I saw, you know, not only just governors, but then of course, Joe Biden and his administration with the putting down these draconian, uh, overreaching, you know, mandates.
Well, Jonathan, I just love listening to you.
You're so intelligent and responsive and articulate.
I think you're an ideal candidate.
doing a good job and to take really strong leaders like Ron DeSantis and others to rise up
and fight back to protect the Republic.
And that's what I aim to do here in Wisconsin.
Well, Jonathan, I just love listening to you.
You're so intelligent and responsive and articulate.
I think you're an ideal candidate.
I also like that you state on your platform, we must ban critical race theory from our public schools.
That, of course, led to the young can upset of Terry McAuliffe in Virginia.
I think parents are furious all over the nation and the uprising of parents against the Democratic Party, I think, is going to be a major contributor to the red wave that we are all foreseeing Taking place this year, 2022, unless the Democrats can find another way to steal the election the way they did in 2020.
Jonathan, it was just appalling.
Absolutely appalling.
I hope Wisconsin is going to do something to clean up its act.
Well, we are working on that.
So most people may not be, they may not know that as a candidate, I've been right there, uh, in the, you know, on the ground fighting with the people.
So my dad served in Vietnam during the fall of Saigon.
And one thing he taught me is that, you know, don't ask of others what you won't do yourself.
Right.
So when we went into lockdowns, uh, you know, listen, I, I fully realized that the globalists have bioweapons and, you know, to get their agenda, are they afraid to use them?
No.
So the first two weeks to figure out what had just been released upon the earth, I was okay for let's pause.
figure out the severity of the situation. But once I realized through context I have in health care
organizations and other industries, once I realized that the numbers put out there by Anthony Fauci,
who by the way needs to be imprisoned, he needs to be convicted and prosecuted and in prison
because he is a criminal and an enemy of the people, crimes against humanity.
And that's the thing, we have to clear up.
Uh, we have to clear up these people from doing this great harm and perpetuating this big lie.
But once I realized that the, uh, you know, the two weeks was going in, you know, to a month, two months, three months with no end in sight, uh, very quickly, I said, you know what?
We have to open up the state of Wisconsin.
We have to get our economy going because if we go past 30 days in lockdown, which is a prison term, by the way, uh, then we're going to lose massive amount of small businesses.
And had the, you know, again, had the PPP money not come through, had all the stimulus checks not come through, there would be massive homelessness right now as well.
Many people on the street in very dire, desperate conditions.
Uh, the federal government and the federal reserve thought they could paper over it, which they did.
And again, the government always makes the wrong decision at the wrong times.
And now because of the failure of production and all this new money, you know, $4 trillion coming into existence in last year in 2020 alone.
Right.
All this new money chasing those goods and services.
That's why we're seeing massive inflation numbers starting to happen.
It's only going to get worse in 2022 as well.
See, that's another illustration where your background so eminently qualifies you for this position.
You mentioned lockdown as being a prison term.
That's a very astute observation.
One hundred percent.
Just as not to shift attention, they did describe New York City as ground zero, because the research I've done, and I'm not inviting your comment on this specific issue, indicates that actually it was done with mini nukes at the base of the Twin Towers, which otherwise could not have been destroyed.
No collapse was taking place.
What we saw externally was all the buildings blowing apart in every direction from the top down, all the floors remaining stationary, converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, which of course turns out to be a signature of the use of nuclear devices.
And when it was over, there was no stack of floors.
We know from Building 7, for example, 47 floors.
All the floors came down at the same time.
Classic controlled demolition.
Five and a half floors remaining.
By that standard, we ought to have had 13 and a half floors for the North and the South Tower, but there was nothing there.
Father Frank Morales, who was our first responder on 9-11 from St.
Mark's Episcopal Church, came on my radio shows twice and both times affirmed that those buildings were destroyed to where even below ground zero.
I would like your thoughts about 9-11 in a general way, Jonathan, and even about JFK, where we had a recent release of a few documents, but I think it was because they were talking about Oswald having contact with the Russians when Russia had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Earlier documents that were released, by the way, I have been exposed by Larry Rivera, who's doing a brilliant job, that the entire idea of Lee having made a visit to Mexico City was completely contrived and fabricated, and where it turns out among the CIA assets in Mexico were three presidents of Mexico.
Not one, not two, but three.
The whole thing was a fabrication.
I mention those, Johnson, only because they're national issues.
They don't directly relate to Wisconsin.
And I'm perfectly comfortable if you prefer not to say anything about them, but I also welcome if you chose to do so.
Sure.
I love to study history, Jim, so what I will say on this topic is Building 7 is absolutely the canary in the coal mine.
And what I like to do is I like to look at the policies that changed thereafter.
And honestly, the Patriot Act that came into, you know, sudden being and the guns pointing inward on American citizens was a big red flag.
So I would say, you know, what I'll comment on this is I do agree.
The reshaping of this country, we didn't get here overnight.
If people think that, you know, what happened in 2020 to now is sudden by magic and it took everyone by surprise.
It's not.
This was, this is something in the works for many, many decades, really.
And the turning point, in my opinion, with this country was the assassination of JFK, right?
And that's when you had things like the CIA mockingbird come in and say, hey, anyone that disagrees with the official narrative of how JFK was assassinated, well, they're a conspiracy theorist.
And you hear that term, you know, perpetuated forever and ever and ever, especially leading up here to COVID and went down, right?
All your conspiracy theorists, if you think that the rush Pfizer shots are what's actually, you know, erasing the immune systems and making people more susceptible to common cold and flu viruses and dying, right?
All your conspiracy, that's how they, you know, that's how they, they shun you and censor you.
So I understand the strategy that the, that the deep state we'll call it has been using.
I would like to keep it mainly focused on Wisconsin if we could, but you're right.
These national and federal issues, like the devaluation of our currency, will impact the states.
And that's why I believe it's up to the states and then local levels to defend the Republic
and start to push back on all these illegal, illegal mandates and to start removing the
corruption. The criminals are running the country at every level, top down, every level.
And like you said, you may mention what's going on in San Francisco and the looting,
the criminals are running the show. And this has to stop.
If we're going to save America and our states, this has to stop immediately.
Otherwise, let's stop fooling ourselves.
Let's stop pretending, right?
Let's stop pledging allegiance to the American flag and the Republic.
It's nonsense.
It doesn't matter.
It's lost.
It's been lost, right?
So we have to stand up.
We need all patriots to rise up immediately and push back on this nonsensical left.
I call it the Socialist Communist Party of America.
They're leading us into the gates of hell right now.
Well, Jonathan, you're 100% correct across the board.
I'm very happy with the response you gave to those questions where I gave you an open door not to respond, but you did very appropriately.
I've done massive research, collaborative research on JFK.
I have four books of collaborative research.
I have founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005.
I have two books on collaborative research on 9-11.
I've been flown around the world to give lectures on 9-11.
Including at the National Library of the Republic of Argentina in 2009, when they had an international symposium on 9-11 truth and justice, and I was a keynote speaker.
In 2006, I was flown to Athens, Greece, and the leading muckraker who brought down corrupt governments in Greece featured me on a Three hours show broadcast internationally by satellite, which they extended to three and a half going in.
They had a dozen panelists.
They told me usually only one or two ask questions, and I explained, no, not today.
And every one of the mass questions they had prepared.
A series of video clips from 9-11 that was simply sensational.
We didn't get through all of them, but it was quite a stunning event.
So I'm very pleased with what you had to say, Jonathan.
I don't think anyone here in this audience is going to be disappointed, and these are issues we address rather frequently.
I'll also mention Your pro second amendment and concealed carry holder.
I have a concealed carry permit myself.
You permit constant promote support constitutional carry.
I think that's all very, very appropriate.
I'd also say.
About your medical use of marijuana.
The people are way ahead of the politicians on this issue, Jonathan.
You could be endorsing the full legalization of marijuana and you would not lose a single vote and you'd probably gain quite a few.
So I want to suggest you not be overly cautious there.
This is a very well-defined platform.
I like it all.
The only issue on which you take a stand where I have an exception has to do with pro-life, but many in my audience here would be on your side rather than mine.
I believe pro-life falls in the same category as vaccination, that we should allow everyone the right to determine what's best for themselves, their conscience, their family circumstances.
There are so many conditions under which a woman might find it undesirable to carry a fetus to term because they're going to lose
their job, they have too many children in the family, a host of other issues. I for 35 years
offered courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, and when we would debate about
abortion, I was just dumbfounded by how many modes of birth control my students knew that I'd
never even heard of and how extensive we found the range of circumstances under which a woman
might prefer not to carry a child to term.
In my view, as I see it, pro-choice is a democratic and American approach to the problem because it
doesn't require anyone to act contrary to their conscience, but allows each woman to determine
In accordance with her own personal circumstances, her physician, and her conscience, what to do, I believe the Democrats would have been more successful if they talk about My Body, My Choice, which they had used so effectively in relation to abortion for vaccines.
I just don't understand how the Democrats have piled on this vaccination program seemingly without qualification.
It's absolutely stunning, Jonathan.
No, I agree.
Jim, you and I would probably definitely disagree on that matter.
I agree with you on the vaccine mandate side, but here's the thing.
When it comes to pro-life, I'm 100% pro-life.
And when it comes down to it, yes, if you want to do what you want to do with your own body, but there's a separate living entity inside that womb.
And in my opinion, that we need to offer the same constitutional rights to that human being, you know, growing inside the womb.
So that's where you and I would, you know, obviously part ways there.
But if we could, could we get back to the Wisconsin issues?
I wanted some more information.
Yes, Jonathan, go with it.
Carry the ball.
Thank you, Jim.
So here's what I want to tell your listeners in 2019.
Like I said, I follow I follow the money in the markets.
There is something called the interbank repo market, right?
And what happened in, everyone remembers the 2008 financial crisis.
So all the same things that were occurring behind the scenes in the markets happened in 2019.
I was looking at these numbers.
I said, you know what?
Something's going to break in a big way.
And the federal government and the Federal Reserve is going to need to print trillions of dollars to cover this mess because nothing was fixed after 2008.
So I said to my inner circle team, I said, you know what?
I said, I understand false flags.
I understand how they put this together.
I think this is so big that they're going to need to have a global event to cover this.
And sure enough, in December, January, that's when I started hearing, you know, COVID-19, Wuhan, right?
All the crazy narrative coming out.
And my thesis was proved correct that sure enough, trillions of dollars were created.
Well, when we went into the lockdowns, I went out there protesting the lockdowns, and then the mask mandates came.
And I said, you know what?
This is very dangerous.
I see that this is conditioning of not just adults, but young, young minds as well.
And they're conditioning for something much, much worse.
Because we know that this really was a massive bioweapon.
You would need, you know, legitimate hazmat suits, right?
Everywhere you go.
Like what the military wears for any sort of protection.
Not these flimsy masks.
It was all theater.
By the same time, it was a massive PSYOP going on the American people and then these young students.
So when they're playing the games with shutting down the schools, you know, then going virtual, then reopening, right?
A whole loss of a whole year with education.
I actually was at the school board meetings.
And what was sad is you can't even argue with facts and logic, right?
I presented an amazing testimony at many of these school boards.
At the end of it, the school board members already had a prepared statement saying, no, we're going to continue on with the masking of our children.
So I went to the parents, I said, parents, I said, rise up.
I said, to fight for your children, right?
If you're not going to fight for your children, then you're not going to fight for your freedoms and the Republic of America either.
If we won't do this for the most innocent of our citizens, right, the children, then America truly is lost.
We've lost our heart and our moral compass.
And that's what I'm fighting for.
But I said early on, so if you follow me on wickmanforgovernor.com or social media on Facebook, we have a huge following there.
I knew it was very important to educate the voter.
So I have podcasts, hours and hours of videos and podcasts explaining in depth, uh, each issue and why I believe, you know, my opinion on all that, why we should, you know, take our state in a certain direction that I want to take it.
But I said, these masks, I said, we have to unwind the fear and we have to stop with the mask mandate because it's going to lead to something else.
And I even, you know, I said, you know, what's going to come to you,
it's going to be this experimental shot that they're, they're rushing.
And they're going to tie that to you being able to enter into stores or have a job, right?
And sure enough, they tied it to the job, started with our healthcare workers.
And I got a lot of heat from doctors and nurses in 2020.
They were very, you know, blindsided.
They could only focus on the virus.
And they'd say, oh no, you know, we need to lock down, you know, essential, non-essential, that, that nonsense.
I said, no, this is going to come back to bite you in the rear end.
And sure enough, it did.
They started with the healthcare workers and they said, hey, you need this shot.
Otherwise you're gonna get fired.
Right.
And one by one, you know, people say, I don't want to get the shot and they're getting fired.
Now there's a shortage.
So there was already a shortage in health care.
Now they exasperated the problem.
And now they're blaming, you know, an increase in Omicron and COVID as the reason when it sees these terrible government mandates that are creating these shortages.
And so we had to supply chain breaking.
I said, guys, we have to stop this.
We have to fight back.
I even put forth a bill.
This is how crazy I put forth.
I found one representative, one representative kind of here in the assembly, Wisconsin, to put forth a bill.
And the bill text said something like this.
It went, it said as of January 1st, 2021, it was retroactive.
any corporation or any healthcare organization, or even the NFL,
cause I, you know, the whole debacle of Aaron Rodgers, if you follow that.
Anyone that fires someone for not taking the experimental jab or, or violates the religious exemption, right?
It says you, you cannot have a religious exemption or accepts the religious exemption,
but says you have to do weekly testing, which is discriminatory,
will be fined $100,000 per employee per incident.
Now that was the bill with T to actually make these corporations pause and say, you know what?
There's a high probability a Republican governor will win, right, in 2022 and sign us into law in
We're going to be on the hook for millions of dollars of fines that would pass through to the employees.
This doesn't go to the state.
This would go to those parties affected by it.
And that would put pause on these mandates.
Anything we could do to fight back against these federal mandates.
You know what happened?
The Republican Speaker of the House, once he got wind that this was Jonathan Wickman's idea, because the establishment hates me, On both sides.
Once he got wind that there was an idea, he did something behind the scenes and he killed it dead.
He made sure that representative would not fight for it anymore.
He killed that dead from even coming to the light of day.
That's what we're up against.
My good friend, Justin Schmicka, who's running for Secretary of State, a very important role inside of our state government for especially securing elections.
We've got to disband the Wisconsin Election Commission.
It's a terrible bureaucracy and there's no accountability to the people.
But him and I are coming on the scene, right?
We're exposing so much here that 99% of our Republican reps on the Assembly and Senate, they either are spineless or they're bought and paid for.
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Well, as advertised, I'm opening the phone lines for anyone who would like to speak with
Jonathan and me about his campaign or any of the issues we've been discussing here.
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Let me mention the whichmanforgovernor.com W-I-C-H-M-A-N-N for governor, all one word lowercase, which
meant for governor.
Jonathan, I got to say the very idea of having a young, vigorous, intelligent, capable governor
like yourself to replace this weak, feeble dolt of a governor, Tony Evers, is inspiring.
I'm a great fan of Ron Johnson, by the way.
In the beginning, I was not sure whether he could cut the mustard, but he's been doing a great job.
And I think the two of you would be a fantastic team of leadership for the state of Wisconsin When I moved here back in 2006, after retiring from a 35-year career, the last 19 of which were spent on the Duluth campus of the University of Minnesota, I thought the state was in great shape.
And then we had a succession of governors, none worse than the president in common, who've done tremendous damage.
I believe you have the capability to make Wisconsin great again.
And I want to add, you know, yeah, I want to add, Jonathan, I've been, you know, a strong partisan of Donald Trump for reasons that I've already adumbrated, but I'm becoming increasingly concerned in retrospect about his project Warp Speed to get the vax out.
I have a colleague, Scott Bennett, who was actually in Washington, D.C.
at the time Trump was still in office.
Who helped to draft an executive order that would have precluded any mandates forcing Americans to take the jab, which he did not sign.
And the fact that he's still going out on the stump and talking about the vaccine, surely he has to know these are causing tremendous damage across the nation.
We got a WHO adverse report backlog of over a record of over 2 million adverse effects, and this was from about a month ago, so the number has probably doubled or quadrupled by now, whereas the year before there were only 2,000, so there was a thousand-fold increase with the introduction of the COVID jabs.
And before that, there were only like 87, 2, 3.
In other words, what's going on here is causing more damage, death and destruction than any other vaccine in history.
And they were very clever in contriving this emergency use authorization, which was dependent on there not being any viable alternatives readily at hand, which included, of course, ivermectin and HCQ, so that the maliciousness of all of this is demonstrated by their campaign against What were widely available cheap and effective treatments for COVID, where Fauci knew himself already because of an article published in 2005 that HCQ was a wonder drug against COVID, that it would prevent it if you didn't have it, cure it if you did, and ivermectin has saved hundreds of millions of lives, and they're even seeking to discourage its importation
We got a hell of a mess here with this medical malpractice, the CDC.
Jonathan, in any other situation, a product, a medical procedure that had a tiny, tiny fraction, I mean a minuscule fraction of what's going on here.
Five or six deaths would have already been recalled and taken off the market and prohibited, and yet they're going full steam ahead and promoting it.
This is disgusting.
This is the greatest threat humanity has ever faced.
I take it back to the Rothschild banking empire.
It's the only power that had enough money, finance, and resources to control this on a worldwide global scale.
Your thoughts?
I agree with you, honestly.
I mean, what you said was profound and amazing and powerful.
There's so much going on here, and like I said, I spent the last 13 years connecting all the dots, so once you're red-pilled fully, you get it, right?
You can see the big picture.
But what I'm up against is, being encouraged here though, there are people awakening, right?
So that's good.
But can we awaken fast enough to avert this disaster?
You know, one big tell early on with the COVID thing that was going on here was, I don't remember that, but there is such a thing as crisis actors.
I'm going to put that out there.
And so, you know, Chinese citizens were pretending to fall over.
Remember those videos out of Wuhan, right?
Falling over.
But these people falling over, supposedly falling over dead and everything, they still got their hands out in time to brace impact.
So their head didn't hit the concrete.
Now I'm a martial artist.
I've been doing that for 15 years.
I've seen fighters get knocked out.
They're called a defenseless fighter.
When you get knocked out, you're blacked out.
You cannot protect yourself, right?
When you're going to the ground.
What's concerning to me now is, you know, these athletes that have taken the shot, both in, um, you know, the FIFA soccer, right.
And NCAA basketball players, you've seen these videos.
These guys who are having the heart attacks are blacking out.
They are falling face first, face planting into the ground.
They're defenseless.
They're not getting their hands up in time to protect their head.
They're gone.
So that's the difference between someone pretending to fall, right, who's fully conscious, and someone that's actually not conscious.
And so, I mean, of course, the mainstream media say, no, it's not the shot.
The shot's not doing this.
But like you said, the VAERS database is exponentially growing.
And for some reason, everyone's ignoring it.
And if we continue to ignore it, there's a calamity ahead, you know, and it's a disaster.
But again, this all funnels back into the global economic reset.
The debt levels are unsustainable.
And if you're going to bring in a one world government, you have to destroy the sovereignty of all nations, right?
You have to have absolute distrust in governments where people hate the government, they tear it down and something else is rebuilt.
Sadly, what could be rebuilt out of it is much more tyrannical and worse than what we're used to right now.
Yeah, it's a turning point for humanity that we're all going to have to decide what road we're going to go down.
And I'm doing everything to fight for freedom.
Oh, Jonathan, you just impressed the hell out of me.
I got to say, I don't think I've ever encountered a candidate I thought was more qualified for the position for which he was running than you.
I have the pleasure of featuring here today.
I'm just tremendously impressed, Jonathan, and notwithstanding our differences about the life issue where, as I see it, Roe v. Wade really drew a distinction between.
The status of being a person with a social legal and moral status that that entails and being a developing entity a fetus that would become a person when it attained viability at the end of the second trimester.
So as I see it, we're not talking about a person in those first two trimesters, but something that would become a person, which makes it a very special kind of property of the mother.
And of course, as you well know, Roe v. Wade grants exceptions during the third trimester for abortions if they will save the life or the health of the mother.
Otherwise, they are a form of murder.
And we've even had Democrats like this former governor of Virginia, not Terry McAuliffe, but his predecessor, who are advocating infanticide, in other words, killing the outcome of a live birth, which is just as disgusting as it gets.
And yet I've not heard the Democrats raise a peep of complaint about it.
I think you're in a situation where you have many rich targets for you to attack on the Democratic side.
And I'm predicting that we're going to have, you know, the Democrats are going to lose as many as 100 seats in the House.
They're going to lose several seats in the Senate and a lot of gubernatorial races.
And Jonathan, from where I sit, I think you'd be an ideal governor for Wisconsin, an ideal governor.
Thank you, Jim.
I appreciate that.
The key thing is this.
Yes, I do believe a red wave is coming, all things being fair.
But the trick is not to allow rhinos, right, and establishment characters that will do nothing once they get in there.
So we need real patriot conservatives that are back in the Constitution, that have a spine, that will not bend the knee, that are not bought out.
That's who we need to flood into these positions.
Jonathan, let me add the Democrats see it coming too.
I mean, their own pollsters.
I was giving a report of a Zogby poll showing that independents were overwhelmingly preferring that Republicans should take control of the Congress rather than Democrats.
There is an 18 point spread, whereas Zogby had never before in the 30, 40 years of his history seen more than a four point spread, which also favored Republicans.
But unless Democrats, he explained, have a lead of around 5% going in, they're destined to go down big time.
Now, they see the writing on the wall as clearly as you and I. So the question becomes, what are they going to do about it?
It seems to me there are several options are contemplating one of which is to initiate a war with Russia.
They think that the historic tendency of the people to rally around a president in time of war might work to their advantage.
I think that's not going to be how it would play out that after the bungled withdrawal from from Afghanistan, that the American people would simply
view this as more incompetence on the part of the Biden administration.
Remember, Barack Obama's celebrated observation, never underestimate Joe's ability to F things
up.
He's been showing that in classic ways all over the map here.
But then again, you see, California has just gone to make mail-in voting permanent in California.
Even third world nations don't go for mail-in voting because it's so easy to manipulate, where Newsom seems to have evaded what I thought was a virtual certainty of being recalled from the governorship by introducing a new method by the Secretary of State where you can print your own ballot at home.
What can we do to forestall these and what other techniques you think they might employ to save themselves?
Because otherwise, Jonathan, if we have anything remotely approximating a fair election, the Democratic Party is going to go down in a form of self-immolation.
Yeah.
So since this whole thing is based on fear, right?
That's what it is.
A failing administration or a failing tyrannical government, it becomes more dangerous.
And that's what I'm trying to warn the people is everything's on the table.
I mean, your guess is as good as mine, whether they take you into war.
I mean, war is a good one.
They try to distract people away from, you know, the problem, which is usually always government.
They always try to act as the savior in proposing the solution, right?
It's this problem, reaction, solution.
So if they can get people to not use critical thinking and always remain in fear, then they're always going to be able to lead citizens by the nose and down a path to hell.
So yeah, everything's on the table.
They could keep escalating it and it could keep getting worse and worse.
My thing is, you know, the bioterrorism, the medical martial law is working so well, as
long as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates and all of them are still walking about freely.
My concern is what's to stop them from releasing something even worse, you know?
So I hope there's good, honest, integrity, God-fearing white hats somewhere in these
agencies that are trying to counter and fight back on their level.
If they don't exist, then it's truly we, the people, are left up to defend our country.
I say this all the time in my speeches.
There's not going to be any other country to come save us, right?
Remember World War II where we stormed the beaches of Normandy, right?
We were the good guys, right?
There's no one else, Russia, no one else coming to save us.
It's going to be we the people that save ourselves.
So I love Donald Trump.
I voted for Trump.
But my fear is that people were trained into, lulled into a sleep and apathy.
Oh, Jonathan, that's so well said.
I couldn't agree more.
And when he was still in Congress, I regarded Dennis Kucinich as the smartest member.
campaign theme is saving Wisconsin together.
It needs everyone activated now to save our country and preserve our freedoms and defend
the future of our children.
Oh, Jonathan, that's so well said.
I couldn't agree more.
And when he was still in Congress, I regarded Dennis Kucinich as a smartest member.
Of course, they went after him, especially AIPAC.
And he lost his seat by redistricting.
This is another aspect of what's forthcoming, is the census is all working against the blue states.
I mentioned before I introduced you how New York and California and Illinois Are losing the population.
That means they're going to lose their number of seats in the house as a consequence.
I think that's going to contribute to every other factor that's going to really demolish the Democrat Party, which has allowed itself to be taken over by these harebrained progressives.
And this is another issue we want to address.
Their whole idea of the green economy is founded on the myth of climate warming as being a bona fide issue.
I've just done a The first of what's going to be a multi-part report about climate change and the mythology attached there too, where it turns out that global warming is true.
We go through cycles over 600 million years.
There have been cycles of warming and cooling, but the fact is CO2 is not at fault.
It has the effect of cooling Earth in four different ways.
It's indispensable to life.
Where trees, for example, and bushes convert CO2 into oxygen, we need to live.
So the idea of moving to electric cars, for example, Jonathan, it costs more energy to produce electric cars than they save.
I mean, it's just insanity.
It is.
I mean, I remember, I remember basic, you know, high school science, you know, or even grade school science on CO2.
Plants eat that for food and they produce oxygen, right?
And it just seems like science has been turned upside down in his head.
And now it's all this mythology.
It's really a cult religion now, you know, with Fauci as the God and everyone's got to worship at his altar and believe what he comes out of his mouth.
Otherwise you're a quote unquote conspiracy theorist, but it's complete utter nonsense.
But again, this is all by design.
If people think this is random, it's not.
It's all by design to confuse the people, to keep you in confusion and not know which way to go.
And through that confusion, they can dismantle everything that we've built.
Don't get me started on taxation.
That's another myth and fallacy.
Again, I'm a numbers guy.
You look at the debts we're running, right?
The federal government doesn't need your tax dollars.
If they can print $2, $3 trillion out of thin air every year to make up the difference, they don't need your tax dollars.
The IRS is just a strong arm of a government to keep you in check, to steal from you, quote, legally, and to keep you in check and fearful of your government.
They can come at any time, audit you, make your life hell.
That's how they impose their will upon you.
Real quick, and we'll move on here, but I want people to understand, I follow a guy who does shadowstats.com.
Do you follow that website at all?
No, you go ahead and tell us about it.
Tell us about it.
So here's the government simply and how they track the consumer price index.
They've been lying to us since after 1980.
But anyone who went through from the 1970s and 1980s, you'll understand, you know, that Paul Volcker, Federal Reserve raised interest rates up to 20 percent, basically crashing the house and market, you know, grinding the economy to a standstill.
But that was the only way to check the runaway inflation that was happening there.
Well, here's the thing.
So based on the 1980 CPI calculation, we are at basically the 15% inflation number that was posting back in 1980, 1981.
We hit that here for 2021.
Now they're lying to you.
They're trying to say no inflation's only, you know, what number are they pulling out of their, their rear end, right?
4 or 5%.
It's a lie, right?
We're at 15%.
We're about to break through.
We'll hit double digit numbers again next year.
And the Federal Reserve is trying to pretend like they're going to increase interest rates.
No, they're not.
Back in, what was it, 2018, they could barely get interest rates to 3% before the entire US stock market began to roll over.
And that's really the inflection point.
That's the danger that I'm trying to warn people about.
Right now, with the 10-year Treasury sitting at about 1.5, 1.6, right?
On $29 trillion of debt, that's where we're at.
That's not even including the derivatives.
That's $435 billion in interest payments per year, just interest payments to a banking
cabal that shouldn't even be part of our US government whatsoever, or a monetary system.
You get the tenure at 2.5%, that's $725 billion in interest payments at 5%, which is considered
Remember the little old lady who could just sit and put her money in the savings account and not have to speculate in the stock market and earn 5% or 6% interest on it?
No, I don't remember that because it was way beyond my time.
But at 5% normalized interest rates, we would be paying $1.45 trillion in interest payments on this.
That is going to kill our economy long-term.
So every time interest rates creep to 5%, we had a major stock market crash.
2001, 2008, 2018.
Now, here we are into the future.
What's going to happen next?
I think they're never going to raise rates.
They're just going to destroy the dollar.
And that's the plan all along, because they want to bring us into a pure digital system, social credit score, much like what's going on in China, and end the Republic of America as we know it.
Well, Jonathan, just wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
I'd love for you to return to how we deal with the mandates, because I think they're the major immediate threat.
I've even suspected... Peaceful noncompliance.
Peaceful noncompliance.
That's what I've been preaching from day one.
I've never worn a mask in any store whatsoever.
I just did not comply.
And that's what we need Americans to do, to understand this is completely illegal.
It's in, it's in violation of the fourth amendment.
Okay.
The fourth amendment states, you have the right of people to be secure in their person.
I ask everyone, if your corporation is forcing you to take an experimental shot, are you, are you securing your person anymore?
The answer every time is no.
Therefore it's a violation of the highest, highest legal document of the land, the constitution of the United States.
And I say this, corporate law does not supersede the constitution of the United States.
Corporations, they operate at the pleasure of the Constitution, not the other way around, right?
If that is the case, then we really truly are not living in a republic and we might as well just stop looking at the Constitution because it's shredded.
It's done, right?
And this is a very dangerous spot to be in.
But yeah, that's peaceful noncompliance.
That's what it is.
And that's why the tyrannical government, you see what's going on in Canada, in Austria, in Australia, right?
That's why they're basically now getting, you know, guns pointed in the face of people by force because people had enough and rightly so.
I sure hope, pray to God, people have had enough because if we don't stop this now, there's not going to be much left to save in the future.
Jonathan, Washington abounds with political hacks who have no idea what they're talking about, who are mere puppets of the deep state, or in this case of the Rothschild banking empire.
It is so refreshing to have someone who is so alive above the nag that you know what you're talking about.
You understand what's going on in the world.
I'm reporting on these issues every single day.
I've been reporting on COVID since like March of 2020.
So I've done Hundreds and hundreds of reports about this and I find everything you're saying to be spot on.
I just want you to know.
How proud I would be to have a governor like you for the state of Wisconsin, because I think you could make a real difference.
I'm just so delighted to discover you, and I'm thankful to Rolf Lindgren for suggesting that you might be a great guest.
You've been simply terrific.
I want you to take the last few minutes we have here to recommend where people go, what they can do to aid and abet you.
I've mentioned your website, whichmanforgovernor.com.
Just take it.
Thank you.
Well, yeah, special thanks to Rolf as well.
Amazing patriot.
Thank you for connecting, you know, with you, Jim.
Jim, you've been an awesome host.
I can't tell you, I've done a lot of different TV and radio advertisements and for you to give me this kind of time to really just, you know, set loose and, and, and, you know, build the story so people can connect the dots instead of, you know, combating and debating all these trivial little things has been an absolute pleasure for me.
So thank you so much for that.
on wickmanforgovernor.com is the best place to start. If you are still on Facebook, I'm on there.
Every social media handle is Vote Wickman. You'll find me if I'm on there. You know, that's my
Facebook is my biggest platform. I reach 800,000 people a month. I've done a lot of video content.
One thing I've done there that people will find interesting is I was so tired of hearing about trust the science with Moderna.
So I actually recorded myself going into a CVS pharmacy and talking to the pharmacist, pretending like I was going to get the Moderna shot.
And basically having the pharmacist say, I don't know what's in this.
It's really enlightening.
So go check that out.
It has now 1.5, 1.6 million views since I've done it.
So join me there.
Telegram.
I am on Gab.
I am on all the other ones, but my largest following is Facebook.
I am endorsed by General Michael Flynn.
People are not aware of that, so I'm honored to have his endorsement.
Another great patriot fighting for our cause here.
But yeah, a lot more to come.
I won't give up or quit.
Even again, no matter what happens this year, I'm a patriot, I love my home, and I'll do everything I can to defend it.
So, Jim, thank you for this opportunity.
I'd love to be back on, and God bless you.
Oh, Jonathan, I'd love to have you back.
And of course, General Michael Friend was grossly abused because in 2012, John Brennan, then head of the CIA, Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State and Barack Obama president, decided to create a terrorist army in the Middle East, which came to be known as ISIS, to put pressure on the The democratically elected government of Syria headed by Bashar al-Assad.
Many Americans still think we're in Syria to bring democracy to Syria, but Syria is already a democracy.
When Michael Flynn was then the head of the National Defense Agency, he spoke out in opposition.
Brennan suggested to Obama he ought to be fired.
And he fired him as a consequence.
They had to tarnish Flynn because had he been the national security advisor to the incoming Donald Trump, he would have cut through all the smoke and mirrors.
He knew where the bodies were buried.
So they had to contrive a phony excuse to attack him, which had no basis or warrant whatsoever.
Right.
The conversations between the incoming national security adviser and the ambassador of Russia
are absolutely 100 percent routine.
The Democrats knew that to be the case, but just as they know, January 6th was contrived
where FBI seemed to have been inspired behind it, where even Garland was refused to answer
when he was asked by Thomas Massey, was the FBI present during the January 6th event in
order to instigate what was taking place.
Garland spoke volumes by refusing to answer the question.
Jonathan, you got your work cut out for you, my friend, but I'll tell you, I am impressed.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jim.
And one last word, you know, really this mess, I don't know if they'll hear it, but President Trump is aware of me and I would be honored to have, you know, presidential endorsement from Trump.
But my thing to Trump is Trump, we need you.
We need you to correct the error of this rush shot.
I don't know if it's ego or something else, but I need you to retract and take away the support from the shot.
It's not a vaccine.
It's gene therapy.
The creator of mRNA himself, has come out against what we're doing, saying it's doing
much more harm than good for the sake of humanity, the sake of this country, which I know Trump
loves. I pray that he will just do a 180 on it and get on the right side of this thing and help us
fight the new world order, really.
So, thank you so much, Jim.
I appreciate it.
Well, yes, one more sign that you're right on top of the issues.
That's my position exactly.
He's got to reverse himself on the Vax.
He was surprised when he was booed at a rally, when he was promoting the Vax and taking credit for it.
It's been catastrophic.
It's causing great death and devastation.
I think his political future hinges on just that kind of reversal, Jonathan.
Let us hope it comes sooner than later.
And again, tell us your website, where to go to support you one more time.
Yes, Wichman, W-I-C-H-M-A-N-N-F-O-R, governor.com, all one word.
I am on a site called WinRed, so winred.com, you'll see me there as a governor candidate as well.
So any contributions helping there?
Sharing?
Sharing has been great.
I mean, here's one last thing.
Before my General Michael Flynn endorsement, a poll came out.
I am polling only five to six points off of Tony Evers.
That gap is probably where we're even, right?
So as of right now, I'm evenly squared away with Tony Evers.
They won't poll me against the establishment candidate, Rebecca Clayfish, because I've already beaten her if the primary was tomorrow.
Jonathan, I'm already looking forward to having you back.
Good luck, my friend.
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Well Jonathan had indicated to me in his prior communication that he would have to depart,
But I tell you, I found that exhilarating.
I believe I've never seen a candidate better qualified for a position than this guy for being governor of Wisconsin.
I am tremendously impressed.
Mitchell has experience in politics.
Mitchell, I'd like to invite your comments on the performance of Jonathan Wickman here.
I thought it was just simply stellar.
Your thoughts, Mitchell?
I liked it, Jim.
You know one thing?
I almost broke in and asked if he was in favor of a right to think bill.
That you know on the federal level and on the state level.
Because of the brainwashing algorithm.
What we really need is the right.
You're really talking about First Amendment, are you not, unfettered debate that we need to have total free expression on the Internet, that the social media giants have to be reined in, they have to be censured, they have to be broken up, because they have massively compromised the right of the American people to exercise their First Amendment rights, and while many would claim that as private companies they have the right to do so, I have signs, I see indications, That they are actually operating as instruments of the state of the Democratic Party, if not of the Socialist Communist Party even.
It's just disgusting, Mitchell, what's happened here with these social media giants.
I am fed up.
Well, you're absolutely right, Jim, that it really does appear that the social media tech companies Have essentially become the state.
The state media and you know my concern is that.
You know one I would say as a professor and also as a person who was involved in training troops at Marine Corps bootcamp of San Diego.
That you understand That you can take a person and immerse them into a system, into an education, and you can, within 90 days to 120 days, you can transform that person.
And, you know, I submit to you and our listeners that, you know, we have seen this phenomena You know, push through the media, but it's not just having to do with COVID.
It has to do with this Republican Democrat Uniparty paradigm of our political system.
It has to do with the Trump derangement syndrome and the, you know, the mass delusion.
You know of Donald Trump essentially being in cahoots with With Vladimir Putin, and we have to remember that was essentially codified as official in the minds of the American voter, because the FBI, the Department of Justice, the Special Counsel, and you know, we as people in the United States, we wouldn't expect all of those
Power seats of government to be corrupted.
But they are and it was the real insurrection was what they did to Donald Trump.
It was not January 6th.
Oh, you're 100% correct Mitchell.
I I agree completely yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, so I you know.
We have to take our government back and it's going to be a long slog because it's either going to be a violent overthrow or we must have a political movement that eliminates the Democrat and Republican parties because they are, you know, part of this mass delusion that our government has.
And to say that, you know, That we have a democracy, you know, to me, that's false.
And just for the simple fact is, you know, Democrats and many other people just want to have these populist candidates and not a real candidate who supports a distributed representative democracy here in the United States.
Yes.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
By the way, anyone who'd like to call in about any of these issues, please do.
Mitchell standing by the number 540-352-4452.
540-352-4452.
Mitchell, I can't think of a better, more inspiring way to begin the new year with this show, with The Raw Deal, than featuring this guy who looks to me just a perfect candidate for governor of Wisconsin.
Tremendously impressed.
Well, um, it's, uh, it's great to see people that want to take the system to task.
Uh, many people believe that, you know, we have to work in partnership with this, um, this political grift system that's been slowly established by the, you know, by the two party system, the Republicans and Democrats themselves.
Uh, you know, I have, uh, have exposed themselves, um, through the, actually the last two presidential elections.
And, uh, I think the American voter, just as when H Ross Perot ran for president there, there builds a, an inflection point where the people see that the Democrat and Republican parties.
Are essentially, you know, um, the same coin, just different sides and the same result.
Um, it doesn't matter which side you flip it.
And, you know, they, they destroyed the third parties, you know, uh, idea with H Ross Perot and of course, threatening his, his daughter and his, um, I guess you should say his reputation.
Um, in, in a, um, smear attack.
And that itself was in the 1990s.
That was itself was enough to bring people back to the party.
And then by the mid by 2004, the Tea Party was breaking and that part of the paradigm was splitting off.
The so-called blue dog Democrats, the conservative Democrats, were also, you know, becoming in vogue then.
And then it just kind of flipped another script with Barack Obama after that.
It was a it was a it's strange.
But what we have seen constantly is that whether it is a Republican president or a Democrat president, Yeah, I think you got it exactly right, Mitchell.
The agendas, the plans.
And you know the policies of the New World Order, the globalist that I have taken over
really America over our government.
So yeah, I think you got it exactly right, Mitchell.
I do think the Democrats are going to have to figure out a way of how to get out of the
catastrophe that's coming because every pollster is reporting the same thing.
The events in Virginia, New Jersey, special elections taking place are all going, converting seats that were formerly blue into red, and it's just beginning.
It is just beginning.
It is going to be stunning.
Well, if you can overcome 35 million illegal immigrants, Yeah, I agree.
We can win.
That will be the problem.
You know, yeah, it is disgusting.
It is disgusting.
Because the Democrats not only want them to change the demographics of voting in the United States, but to become Participants in the US military so they can use the military made up of a whole lot of migrants on the ground that they're going to be made US citizens to attack American citizens who have a bona fide right to be here when they do not.
So I see that coming as well.
I'm quite sure you do as.
Equally as I, I mean, good God, give me a break.
Jim, I have a question along these lines.
Do you think that they can succeed in this drive for what can only be returned as population replacement of entire communities?
You know, breaking, I shouldn't say this, breaking the political and economic Well, I think they're going to give it a try.
American people, regular conservatives, regular liberals, and then bringing an offshoring,
essentially, a new counterculture to America. Do you think they can actually get away with that
in the long run? Well, I think they're going to give it a try. They're going to give it a try.
And it's not impossible.
They should be able to get away with it.
I'm sorry to say, I mean, that's just what's happened to the United States.
Mitchell is so appalling.
I mean, just that, that in our lifetime, these sorts of things would be happening is, is just a horrific, just absolutely horrific.
And I never expected to see anything remotely like this.
Happened to the United States, which is once such a great nation, and that's being reduced to a cesspool, a cesspool of chaos, crime, corruption, totally unlawful.
Defunding the police was absolutely a trigger here, and I can't begin to say enough in condemnation by the Democrats for the destruction they have wrought upon this nation.
I agree, Jim.
defunding the police. It was absurd then, it's absurd now, but the consequences, alas,
are very real and will be enduring.
Well, you know, I agree, Jim. You know, last year, a year and a half to two years ago,
I lost a few neighbors and they were older gentlemen and they, one was 78 and the other
I think was 74, 76.
And...
And one died of stupidity and the other one died essentially of old age.
And my neighbor, direct neighbor, who died of stupidity.
I say that because, you know, he shouldn't be alive today.
And he burned a candle at both ends at the age of 78.
You know, it's kind of hard for an elderly man to go out to do the things that he did when he was in his 30s as far as drinking and drugging and partying and having a good time.
And it unfortunately it costs a man's life in the end and.
His sister shows up and this guy was a Wheeler dealer used car salesman in all of the sense and he was as crooked as the day is long and so after he passed away, his sister shows up and says, well, she's taking care of the estate and.
We've seen her off and on loading stuff up out of the house and cleaning stuff out.
And then now this is now.
Gosh, almost a year, a year and eight months later, or actually, you know, almost a year and a half later, you know, all of a sudden it pops up that he had no will.
His sister had no standing at all in the estate.
And that there's six grandkids that they say is in getting the estate.
But when the poor guy was down on his luck and didn't have any money and didn't have anybody, you didn't see any of those grandkids around.
You didn't see anybody.
And you have to laugh that it's just horrible that here was a crooked guy who lived a crooked life.
Who had a crooked sister that didn't fall far from the tree that kind of took advantage of the estate and played executor.
And then now all of a sudden you have six kids that are scrapping over the same stuff that the other scraps were were essentially fighting over.
It's it really is the sad truth of the morality and the status of what we see in America today.
It's like kin screwing each other.
It's like amazing.
It really is.
Up north, I don't see this.
I shouldn't say up north.
I should say I don't see this in my relatives and in their families.
That the kin are essentially trying to screw over their other kin.
On a just a regular basis as if it's a family trait.
And it's I'm thinking, God, it just looks like Washington, D.C.
to me.
It's just crazy.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, of course.
I know.
It's it's just.
Unbelievable, unbelievable, Mitchell.
Yeah, talking about it.
I mean, it, it, it just is so affecting because it's so God awful.
And that, you know, the Democrat party really has brought us to this point.
I mean, it, it, I just would never have thought it could have happened.
Anyone who wants to call in?
Yeah.
Anyone who wants to call?
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Mitchell.
Go ahead.
And here I have you in the kicker and you know exactly what I'm saying because you're in the same shoes and they look at us like we're the bad guys.
That it's our fault that we told him what was happening and what was said and what somebody did and they look at us like it was your fault.
You told me.
If not, I just be a dumb ignorant schmuck.
So, yeah, I mean, and it's it's funny because they look at me like like I'm the bad guy because I tell them I scream and holler at them.
I give them hell when they need it.
I won't lie.
I do.
You know, but I'm stay I'm standing here trying to help as much as I can.
But, you know, in the end, you know, it just seems like everybody's irresponsible and they turn around and they're so victimized.
That they don't even realize they're blaming you for their, for, you know, being victimized by their own family or their own kid.
It's amazing.
It is, it is, it is, it is.
And, and of course, I mean, my family members went ahead and got the facts and didn't tell me they were doing it because they knew I'd be opposed.
And I just don't know what to say.
Because the consequences are likely to be devastating, and I'm just, you know, having to brace myself for it.
So many Americans, though, have been played by the government, sources they thought they could trust, they could never imagine would be working against their best interests, that are seeking to kill and disable American citizens, the CDC, the FDA.
Even the AMA hasn't done enough to step up and stand against all this.
It's been reduced to individuals like Judy Mikovits and Joseph Mercola and a host of others.
I didn't mention, by the way, when Jonathan was talking about those mask mandates, but everyone here would know I have a half a dozen articles about the damage done by masks.
Well, we all know that they're seeking to kill us slowly using the mass more rapidly using the vaccinations, and then ultimately it's going to be starvation.
Starvation Mitchell i have no doubt that's the way they're gonna clean up and bring about that reduction in the US
population from three hundred and thirty million.
In twenty twenty to only sixty five million in twenty twenty five and a reduction of two hundred and sixty five
million.
There's no other way to explain it.
That's a deagle.com projection, but it's completely consistent with a genocidal globalist effort to, you know, reduce the world's population from close to 8 billion to 500 million, as the Georgia Guidestones proclaim.
And anyone who doubts that this is a real agenda, just pay attention to what's going on here.
Look at the statements coming from the Rothschilds, from the global, you know, the World Economic Forum about the Great Reset and all that.
It's all taking place.
All taking place.
And would you believe, now even Fauci is admitting that the PCR is not reliable for detecting infections.
I mean, give us a break.
I mean, can you believe?
Yes.
Yeah, because today you're not supposed to question any qualified expert.
You know, it doesn't matter if they say they're a scientist, they're an engineer, you know, they're a geneticist, they're a construction worker, you know, they know how to run a tape measure.
I mean, I don't know.
You can't question anything and anybody today.
Otherwise, you're like anti-science or something.
And, you know, hey, you got to.
The old saying goes in carpentry, you know, measure twice and cut once.
And, you know, God forbid if we would have to, you know, real examine the history of science and how many times that science that was so wrong.
It's amazing when you can't.
You can't suggest that today so.
I know I know.
You got it right.
Unbelievable Mitchell.
Well.
I'm just tremendously impressed with this guy.
I mean, you see candidates come and go, but someone who actually has a grasp of the issues and as it displays such a comprehensive understanding and appears to have the intelligence and the vigor to do something about it.
To me, that verges on awesome.
Just awesome, Mitchell.
Well, that is.
There are going to be candidates that are going to be coming out.
And, you know, we have to remember that Republican or Democrat, we, we need independence.
And, you know, if, if they're going to run under, you know, the label of a private party nonprofit corporation it's tough for me.
To vote for somebody like that for the simple fact is that I understand they're using the party structure like Trump and kind of, I don't want to say hijacking it, but using it as a platform to reach people.
I just think in the end because that system is so systemically captured that just like Donald Trump, you end up captured by that system.
Even if you're fighting against the system.
So it's it's a very it's a very tough call either way.
And you know, if you're an independent, generally you're dead meat.
If you're one of the two major parties, well, then you've got a chance.
That's just the truth.
Yeah.
Yep.
Well, it was a joy to have Jonathan on and I hope he does well.
I think he'd be a very appropriate candidate for Trump to endorse, but I could not agree more.
And this impressed me right to the end, where he was pointing out that Trump's got to reverse himself on the vaccines.
He's got to do it.
Hasn't that distressed you, Mitchell, to see how Trump, even to this day, continues to Tout the vaccines when you even have how she acknowledging that the PCR test is unreliable.
I mean, give us a break.
Yes, and I was watching a Cliff High explanation about what Trump is doing and the kind of psychological maneuver that he's that they're trying to do this this way.
Um, I, I understand it.
I don't agree with it.
Um, just because it's kind of the same head games that the system would play.
And, um, I guess I don't play with the system.
Um, you have to take it head on.
You have to take it to task and you have to use, uh, information war, uh, against it.
And that's the only way that you can effectively neutralize them.
And you have to keep attacking not only them, but every piece of government corruption that you see.
So, yes, yes, yes.
Well, I gotta say, I'm just delighted to have such a first show of 2022 with such a marvelous guest.
And I wish you all, let's all hope 2022 plays out better than 2021.
Thank you for joining me.
Come back for the event on Wednesday.
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