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Dec. 3, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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Melissa Ciummei: They Need to VAX Your Children to Bring in a Global Social Credit System
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Melissa Chimay, welcome to the Iconoclasts one-to-one.
Thanks for joining me today.
Thanks for inviting me.
You were on the Iconoclasts roundtable.
And what you said had everybody pretty spellbound at the end of that.
And we've had tremendous feedback from those who watch that show.
And people really wanted to know more about what you were talking about.
And obviously, the key message that you were you were giving was about the vaccine passports.
So what's going on?
They're not vaccine passports.
They are data passports.
They are participation passports.
There's no medical reason behind these.
If I had come to you two years ago and said, here's what the government want to do.
They want to give everybody a chip.
They want to put all your medical data and all your financial data onto that chip.
That will be your complete ID and they can control you or shut you out of society from that.
Ideally, they'd like to put a quantum tattoo so that they can remotely medicate you.
That sounds absolutely That's the road that we are going down right now.
This is about a financial reset because the fiat currency has failed like every other one has before.
And in order to keep the game going, they need a new financial system.
This is why everybody, no exceptions, has to get one of these passports.
This is why there's a drive to get absolutely everybody vaccinated.
It's for the new system.
So what's this all been about then in terms of you know when they're calling it Covid and you know they're saying it's to keep people safe etc so has it had nothing to do with that at all?
Nobody seems to be asking why.
If you ask somebody, if you stand outside one of these bars and say, why are you using this passport?
Nobody has an answer for why.
It's certainly not a medical decision.
It doesn't stop you from getting it, it doesn't stop you from passing it on.
That has been, the CDC have come out with that, Bill Gates have come out with that, Vouchi has come out with that, Boris Johnson have come out, they've all come out and announced that.
This clinical trial is nothing more than a treatment to reduce symptoms.
At best, that's what it has the potential to do.
So why would you need a passport to get into somewhere?
You would think that that would be linked to transmission, so that if taking part in this clinical trial stopped transmission, then there would be a logic behind that.
But there's absolutely no data to support that.
It's not about anything medical.
This is an economic decision, not a medical decision.
Why do they have to reset?
Like, what's been going on behind the scenes or, you know, in the last... Well, I know we obviously had a crash in 2008, so has it been since then?
Is this what this is about?
From 1971, we have been on a debt base.
That's when the dollar came off.
The dollar and the reserve currency came off, the gold standard.
We entered into a debt-based economy.
That has collapsed under its own weight.
In 2019, September, there was a crisis in the repo market.
It got more and more difficult.
That could have been manipulated.
There was liquidity pulled out, but that's a different story.
So it's an interesting timing though, isn't it?
I mean, September 2019, and then the next thing we know... Yeah, you had the Bill Gates event, who won after that.
This is a banking crisis.
Every fiat currency in history, and there have been thousands, have returned to zero.
This is where we are with the pound and the dollar have already lost over 99% of their value.
They're just gonna eradicate the other 1%.
This is why the money is being printed.
The money is being printed so that the central banks can give it out to the hedge fund companies,
asset management firms.
They're buying up all the actual assets while we are being paid to stay at home and say nothing.
So the central bank, because what I've heard about obviously
is this is a central bank digital currency.
What's the difference between that then and a fiat currency?
Like if this is another reset, is it going to be the same story or is this going to be different?
The central bank digital currency is the end game.
They, along with totalitarian control.
In order to bring in a central bank digital currency, you need a digital ID.
In order to bring in a digital ID, you need these passports.
That will all be combined with a social credit system and a carbon credit system.
Central Bank digital currency has all the good aspects of a fiat currency for the government and nothing of what is good for us.
The only benefit we have of a fiat currency, a fiat currency is basically it's backed by nothing.
It's a currency because the government say it is so.
What we gain from that is privacy.
That's what we're going to lose when we move into central bank digital currency.
They're going to have complete control over every aspect of our finances.
They can dictate where in the economy that you can spend it.
They can say that you can only spend it in essential goods or on rent.
They can fine you at will.
They have complete control over every aspect of your finances.
And when you link that into a social credits concept, They can sanction you, or reward you.
This has already been trialled in, I think, a province in Northern China, where you go from a triple A rating down to a D rating.
Triple A, you get preference for jobs, you get, your children get preference for schooling.
D, they can take your qualifications off you.
They can take your qualifications off you?
They can take your qualifications off you.
So they can literally say, no, we can just dismiss anything you've actually achieved in your life?
Yep.
Just like that?
How close are we to this?
We are very close to this because of compliance.
Everybody has to buy into this.
We have watched them move down, the propaganda move down the demographic.
This started off with protect the vulnerable.
Then it was, it went down the age groups, pregnant women.
Now it's children.
Everybody, without exception, has to buy into this.
This is the new financial system.
Why do they need children?
Children are earning, they're not, you know, so right now, why are they after them right now?
Well they need to condition them and they still need to be part, right now children still need to be part of the financial system.
They also need the data from the children.
We're moving into AI technology.
Data is the new gold.
Energy is the new currency, data is the new gold.
With the children, they have them from a young age, they can Track their behaviors.
AI is only as good as the information that goes into it.
So if you are gathering all this data from the children, you can program AI under the Obama administration.
This last day in office, there was a paper backed up by MIT that 83% of all jobs earning $20 or less will be automated away by 2030.
The future is AI.
They need the data.
That's a tremendous number of people, surely.
So what's going to happen to them?
Universal basic income.
So they will be sitting at home getting a basic wage, but they won't be able to actually participate then?
Is that what you're saying?
In terms of production, in terms of actually leading?
They won't be needed.
They will not be needed.
With the way technology is going, they're expected not to be needed.
OK, so this sounds absolutely terrifying and complete doom and gloom.
Is it inevitable?
Are we absolutely going to end up where these people who are organising this actually want us to go?
If we continue to comply, yes.
The target is small to medium businesses because they account for 60% of all jobs and the target is the children.
I don't know why anybody would let their child take part in this clinical trial.
They're of virtually no risk.
There's more risk of them drowning.
Even if it was 100% safe and there was long-term data done, why would you let your child participate?
There is a push right now, as I say, it's moved down the demographic, the push is now for children.
I know in the North, It's only just, the vaccination for children only just started.
Already 25%, just over 25% of 12 to 15 year olds have taken part.
25% of 12 to 15 year olds have taken part, 56% of children aged 16 to 17 have taken part.
They have to get them into the system. So in order for this new financial system, in
order to participate in society right now, we have to have these passports. So how can
they illogically exclude children? How can children go to restaurants? And this is the
coercion that they're going to use to get the children, the same coercion that they
use for us. They're saying that if they want to go to teen discos, they're doing the exact
same thing with children. They are going after the children right now. And I think for anybody
who did take part, they were lied to about that it protected others. There is absolutely
no...
Well and also that it was safe.
I mean, you know... Yeah, because there was no... It's short-term studies.
They could maybe say that it was safe, but they were told that it would save others.
It doesn't.
It's a selfish act to take.
It doesn't do anything for anybody else.
So, if they were told from the beginning that... At best, it's treatment to reduce symptoms.
You're not covered for the first two weeks, but you're not really covered until you get the second one, and it wanes after six months.
You're actually only covered for four months.
This is the information we know right now.
Why would you be getting your children it?
If you know that at best it only protects you for four months, why would you be getting your children it?
It's simple.
Let's be real parents.
It's so that your children can participate in society.
That is the only reason that you are taking them in and getting them it.
You're taking a risk So that your children could participate in society.
We have to have these passports to participate in society.
The next move is that we have to have a central bank digital currency wallet in order to participate in the financial society.
So what do we do?
What does the ordinary person in the street do?
What does a small business owner do?
We need some solutions here because obviously that is pretty dystopian.
For a small to medium business owner what they need to do is absolutely do not comply.
These, their threat is unlawful fines.
Their business will be gone anyway.
They're under attack.
These businesses have to be eradicated in order for the new system to come into place because they need you dependent on the state for social credit.
So you're saying that even if they do comply now, essentially they're going to try and find another way to Squeeze them out?
Well, they have reduced their footfall.
It started with nobody could participate in society.
Then it was if you comply, you can participate in society.
Then it's going to be if you adopt central bank digital currency, you can participate in society.
And then it's going to be social and carbon credit.
So for these businesses, they could just decide to, I mean, I think it was after World War One, taxes were 90%.
They can just go straight into their account and tax them.
Whatever they want.
They have complete control.
But they want them gone because they want to eradicate any independence.
So they need to not comply.
Those businesses, especially restaurants, they're dependent.
They have a small profit margin.
They're dependent on footfall.
The government is dictating Who their customer base is, they're telling them that it's unlawful, which is, that is not true.
It's a mandate to serve a particular portion of the society.
Because a lot of people say, you know, the excuses.
So you're saying, you know, why are businesses participating?
If you were to stand outside and ask them, well, why have you implemented this then?
You know, they will say we have to, it's the law.
So that's not true?
No, it's not the law.
It's not the law.
It will be challenged.
The challenges are being held back.
But, no, it's not the law.
They are complying.
Everything is based on compliance.
These fines are not lawful.
They're being challenged right now.
But in the meantime, your business is being wiped out.
They have subsidised these businesses in order to create a loyalty to the government rather than to the customer.
They won't survive the other side.
It's up to people to For me, if a business puts out that you have to have a passport to enter the business.
I'm not showing my papers.
I know how this works in history.
I am not showing my papers to enter a business because there's absolutely no reason for you to need to know my vaccine status for me to enter your business.
It's not a medical decision and I know how it's going to work out economically.
But particularly because it's been shown that it's not stopping transmission.
I think that, and it's such a good point, you know, that people are taking it Actually, to protect themselves, maybe at best.
And the reality, really, and even people who are delighted with a, what's it called, like a recovered certificate, they still have to show their medical information.
So they're still part, so they kind of feel, oh, well, I haven't had the vaccine, so I'm kind of, kind of cleverly avoided that, but they're still in, so the reality is it's going to move on probably from vaccines and it's going to be something else.
What happens when that runs, when your nine months runs out?
This is coming for everybody.
You might be going ahead and going to the restaurants right now because your passport's green.
It's a matter of time before everybody's passport turns from green to red for various different reasons.
It could be, they could decide if you don't, that you have mental health issues and if you don't take a particular medication or if you, that you have to take statins Anything, in order to participate in society.
The new normal is a...
Continual changing of the goalposts.
So you will never be fully in.
It is like the constant updates that you get in the computer.
You're never completely updated.
Same with your phone.
Always happens at the wrong time as well, doesn't it?
Just as you're about to do something and it goes on and you're stuck.
And then you're stuck.
You can't do anything.
You're literally waiting.
Maybe you could be about to go out to eat and you're... Because if you look at under the WF, right now we have the internet of things.
They want to move into the Internet of Bodies.
The Internet of Things is so your watch connects with your phone, your phone connects with your fridge, your TV.
The heating system, like everything.
They want it to be Internet of Bodies where you connect via In their words, an ingestible, a wearable or an injectable.
This is their words so that you connect to all of this.
This is all data that's available.
Go and look at the WEF website.
Scroll down.
Fourth Industrial Revolution.
They want to blur the line between human and technology robots.
I actually mentioned the Fourth Industrial Revolution to someone recently, and I said, you know, I'm not a Luddite.
That was what I said.
I said, you know.
And he said, just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
Oh, no.
And I just thought that was, like, it really hit home.
I was like, absolutely.
We kind of feel like it's inevitable, doesn't it, that we have this progress, technological progress, and we're going to be swept along with it, and we can't do anything.
But we're not actually designed for this, are we?
No, I was born before the internet.
I didn't have a phone.
I think I was born before you.
I think I didn't have a phone.
20 years ago maybe I didn't have a phone.
This is what's wrong.
The law hasn't caught up with technology and it's getting ahead of itself and you have these Billionaires trying to take over control of the people and all of the wealth.
That's what's happening right now.
Like, while we're sitting at home, there's a wealth heist going on.
Everything is being bought up around us.
And meanwhile, what we have is being inflated away.
So in terms of the financial research, the financial research is coming anyway, isn't it?
I mean, that's the only solution to Covid.
The only solution to Covid is a new financial economy.
Money's going to solve the problem of a virus.
But as you were saying, the fiat currency, it's come to the end.
You were saying it's been on life support and now the body's twitching.
It's coming to an end stage.
So if we don't participate then in The passport system, this medical apartheid essentially.
What can we do then financially?
What's going to happen?
You will have to buy into it to a degree.
It's better to have as much autonomy as you can over your finances.
For me, it's precious metals.
Every time the system has been reset, like 4,800 times, it's always been to gold.
My guess would be that the globalist thinking started around 1944 with the Bretton Woods Agreement when all currencies were pegged to the dollar.
That linked everything together.
That has to remain.
So what I would say is the IMF come out with the SDR I think in 1969, just before the dollar came off the gold standard.
This is a basket of currencies.
Currently, I think it's the pound, the yuan, the yen, the euro and the dollar.
Anything can be added into that basket.
I would say there's a strong likelihood that they would add gold into that basket to tether it.
And that will be the transition from the dollar being the reserve currency, because it right now would have the lion's share, into the digital yuan.
In terms of central bank digital currency, it's already out in China.
They've already put it out.
But are other countries investing in that?
Or is it just more... You have Bitcoin, you have Fedcoin.
Yeah, if you look, every single country, euro, they're all moving into a central bank digital currency.
The new currency has to be a digital one.
Because of the age we live in, it has to be a digital one.
But with the level of control, it's actually terrifying.
So why are you saying, OK, it looks like it's going digital anyway?
Because obviously, there's cryptos have come in, so the technology is there.
And obviously, technology is only going to progress even further as we go into this.
Is it that we're still going to be with a digital currency with gold and silver, precious metals, things like that in there, but if we didn't participate in the passport system, it would still be that, but with less control from government and central bank?
Is that what you're saying?
With the precious metals, you can operate outside the system with precious metals.
It has been a currency for years.
A lot of people would put a lot of credence into cryptocurrencies.
For me, I do own them.
There's some that have functionality, but Bitcoin, while it has a mechanism to control quantity, it doesn't have a mechanism to control its value.
It's very volatile.
It's not functioning as a currency right now, and it is almost like a fiat currency.
In that, it's backed by faith.
The enemy of all cryptocurrencies is regulation, and the SEC are working, they have Gary Gensler at the SEC working on that, who, if you watch his MIT lectures, he's very well versed in crypto.
Right.
So there's almost like, in a way, they're quite happy then for people to go into cryptos, because it could be corralling people into something that initially, but now, although it's not regulated now, If that comes in, it's like the gate's going to close in behind them.
It's a speculative asset.
The dot-com bubble all over again.
Will there be ones that survive and thrive out of it?
Absolutely.
Is blockchain the future?
Absolutely.
They have complete transparency over every aspect of your life.
With your digital ID they can put you onto a blockchain on the internet.
They have full view of everything.
That you do.
So there will be a lot that will survive.
With the cryptocurrencies, if you reduce the custodians, it's easier to regulate and a lot of people are using the exchanges.
If Coinbase were taken up, there was a court case against Coinbase and they relented and gave up 20 or 30,000 accounts of their most prolific users.
The IRS have requested that you have to fill in if you have traded in cryptocurrencies.
If you fail to tick that box, that's a felony charge.
So how do we know how they're going to regulate that. They can just tax you at 90% for any capital
gains and then you also have the issue of unrealised capital gains. The only thing that's,
I think it's back old school, precious metals are, they're safe, they've always been a
hedge against inflation.
Russia can back their currency right now.
They have 23% of their reserves are in precious metals.
China have upped their, I think they've increased by 60% recently.
They have a huge amount of precious metals.
You have Brazil, the IMF, 2800 tonnes of gold.
Central banks hold gold.
There's a reason.
I could see them tethering it to gold again.
So, from what it sounds like, don't participate in the passport system if you're a customer or a business.
Keep your kids away from participating in the system.
Precious metals seem to be a way of Certainly, it's not necessarily an investment, but maybe it's like a secure... Precious metals are not an investment, they're a way to protect your wealth.
In terms of what you can do, first thing you need to think of is, what future do you want for your children?
Because you might think you're okay now, but this is the future that you are building.
You're building your own prison, you're building a prison for your children.
It's a series of dominoes.
Take out those dominoes.
Starts with vaccine passports.
They're not vaccine passports.
They're data passports.
Data is the new gold and energy is the new currency.
So take that out and everything falls apart.
And the economy, honestly, the economy is failing anyway.
They're trying to put in this new financial system.
Either way, you need to prepare.
You need to ask yourself, are you prepared?
Financially, are you prepared?
That was the only thing that was addressed through the whole collapse.
They only addressed the financial aspect.
You were given money to stay at home.
Are you prepared spiritually?
Emotionally?
Physically?
Mentally?
Because this is coming.
There is no going back to the old world.
This is the new world that we're going to be living in if they succeed.
I don't feel that they will succeed.
Maybe that's optimism.
I like your optimism.
Well, when freedoms are reduced, eroded away, Empires tend to collapse.
That's Roman, Ottoman, French Empire.
That's why they collapsed.
So I do have hope, but protect your children.
Do not let your children participate in this passport system.
Know that if you do, for the sake of going to a restaurant, that you are leading them into a social credits system and
slavery.
The consumer economy has failed.
We're moving into a credits economy where you, now the rich can buy credits,
but that's the world that you're going to be putting your children into a credit system
where they will have to work off the debt that has been accrued.
So it's like they've waged war against us.
We are at war.
Australia knows it.
New Zealand knows it.
Austria knows it.
They're all out on the streets.
We absolutely are at war.
In a war situation, there is collateral damage.
That's where we are standing with these injuries and deaths from this clinical trial.
They're being completely censored.
That information is being completely censored because it's essential to get us all on board.
As I say, no exceptions.
So we are in a war situation.
Against a takeover, a globalist takeover from NGOs, non-government organisations, the WEF, the IMF, the UN, all of them.
These billionaires and technology companies are dictating the future of humanity.
And if we don't stand up, we are running out of time.
And we need to stand up.
And it's simple.
In a war situation, men have been frontline at war, losing their lives.
All we have to do is say no.
That's all we have to do, just mass non-compliance.
The solution to this is mass non-compliance.
I heard that expression last year for the first time in terms of the context of this, and I really didn't get it, I have to say, but really hearing what you're talking about and really where we're heading, if enough people comply, and the reality now is we are the majority.
So if enough people stop complying and say no, Surely, there's enough of us to turn this around.
The people have the power, and they know that.
They have been controlling us.
They know our psychology.
Unfortunately, we are not as unique as we think we are.
You'll be very aware of that.
We're not that complicated.
Yeah.
So they have this knowledge at their disposal, and they're using it against us.
What they don't seem to budget in is human spirit, intuition and spirituality.
And that's what we need to use.
We need to look at our children and think, my job is to protect you.
This is the world that we want to build for our children.
Build that world.
Don't wait for somebody else to build it.
And there's no going back, is there?
It's gone.
Normal as we knew it is gone, but the new normal, that seems like it's down to us.
No matter what, there's no going back.
It's gone.
All that they're trying to do right now is keep the system alive long enough in order to bring in the new system.
They're not trying to fix anything.
They're not trying to bring anything back.
They're telling you, build back better.
What does that tell you?
You have to destroy.
That's why the economy has been systematically collapsed.
Build back better.
It's their version of better.
Their version is the social credits, the carbon credits.
They're moving away from fear into guilt, that we're responsible for the world breaking down and dying.
I'm not worried about the world.
I'm worried about the people on it.
If these philanthropists, which seems to be a code word for psychopaths, if they genuinely cared, there's millions of people starving to death every day.
Do something about that.
Clean water?
Sanitation?
I mean all of those things have been proven to... They're interested in control and wealth.
That's all that they're interested in.
They don't care about anybody else on the planet.
They do not care about the planet.
They care about wealth and control.
So, someone watching this who's sitting here, you know, absolutely mesmerised by this information because it's the first time maybe they've heard it.
What would you suggest they go out and do now?
For me, this is going to be won by communities, so find people that are like-minded.
That's going to keep your confidence up.
Do not give in and do not give up.
If you give up now, If we don't fight this now, we are giving our children twice the battle.
It has to be fought now.
The quicker that we do this, the easier it is to get out of.
So find your communities, find people, find your support network.
They are out there.
They absolutely are out there.
People think that they are alone.
They're not alone.
You're not crazy.
Your intuition is correct.
You need to get out there and meet with these people.
We need to simply say no.
Do not let your children participate in it.
They are going for your children now.
That's the final demographic.
We have been saying, the people that are aware have been saying it from the start.
And here we are.
We're now down, I think the Taoiseach has, he's okayed it for 5 to 11 year olds.
He's on board with 5 to 11 year olds.
I think he said something like, you know, well they're asking for it.
They want it.
So we should be listening to our 5 year olds.
What?
They're going to be coerced into taking it as well.
Pestapar was good, you know, but my goodness.
If you want to participate in society, you have to get it.
That's their narrative.
No.
The society's been broke down anyway, so withdraw your participation now.
Let these businesses lobby government and say, we're going to have to close down.
Let everything fall apart now.
We have a better chance now of letting things... They're going to fall apart anyway.
It has happened time and time again.
If you want to understand anything, look at history.
We have been here before.
But this new reset is absolutely terrifying.
This new financial system is one of totalitarian control over every aspect of your life.
Is that what you want for your children?
You might be okay.
I mean, at my age, It's going to be a slow creep into it.
What I'm talking about isn't going to... It's not going to be next week, next month, next year.
There'll be little things all the time.
The same move away from the few weeks to flatten the curve, to lockdowns, to passports.
It's going to be the same move into the social credit system.
It'll be incentives first, and then they'll move into if you don't.
Then punishment.
and then ultimately the carbon credits because energy is the best functioning currency.
That's why they're moving into carbon credits. So with that we need to put our energy into the
future that we want to create and if that's the currency then we actually control it.
It always has been the currency.
They've printed paper and got us to work for paper under the fiction of paper for so long.
We have been in a slave system for so long.
Time to get out of it.
Time to get out of it.
Time to realise that we are spiritual beings having a human experience and stop letting ourselves be distracted from that.
Melissa, thank you so much for joining me today and I wish you all the best of luck.
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