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The Event (Raw Deal + Wisdom Circle) - 17 November 21 - Guest: Where's Weisenheimer?
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And Alan.
Here we go.
Oh he's there.
Good.
vitriol is here.
So I think we're going to be fine.
November 9th, 1989.
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The event.
James Fenton.
David Scorpio.
Giuseppe Battaglio.
History is made.
And now, the event.
Well, we had a fascinating guy lined up for today, but he's shown a certain ambivalence.
He is, in my opinion, a cross between a beach mom and a public intellectual.
His name, Alan Weisberger, he published In Search of Captain Zero, a surfer's road trip beyond the end of the road back in 2002, and it has become a cult classic.
He's published other volumes under the heading of Bandito Books.
You can find them online.
I know Alan was concerned that we might not be open-minded and receptive to his desire To contest whether there are any viruses, I sought to reassure him that that's just fine with us.
If we discuss such subjects, you know, this is the idea of exosomes rather than viruses.
Giuseppe Scorpio and I have discussed this on numerous occasions.
We have quite a few presentations up on Bitchute channel, Jim Fetzer, that address it.
So I was looking forward to having Alan here, especially because I've known him for decades.
But I've also discovered that he sometimes changes his mind.
He showed a lot of ambivalence about coming on with us, but finally agreed to do so today.
But I've got to admit, Giuseppe, although I'm disappointed, in some ways I'm not surprised.
Well Jim, yep, he's not here and Scorpio is in the mountains enjoying an extended birthday celebration so he's not here so it's just you and I boss.
Well, I'll tell you, I was particularly intrigued to ask Alan about a rumor someone had written to me that he was suggesting that I might be a government agent, which I find vastly amusing, because given what I've done over the years, you know, with regard to JFK 9-11, Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, and more, if I For a government agent, I would have to be the most counterproductive in history, Giuseppe, because I've spent all this time researching and exposing government complicity in these events and bringing together the best qualified experts to ever study them, which is another reason why those who would like to make that kind of a case, which frankly is absurd on its face,
Is another reason I'm not simply presenting my personal opinions.
I'm presenting a distillation of the research by the best experts who ever speak with regard to JFK, for example, since the observance of his assassination is right around the corner.
22 November is the lone demanded gunman.
In fact, Giuseppe.
Something we could do, if we could get the slides up, would be to discuss his assassination in detail.
But let me give you a few salient facts.
I brought together a world authority on the human brain who's also an expert on wound ballistics, having supervised an emergency medical hospital for injured Okinawans and Japanese prisoners of war during the Battle of Okinawa.
A PhD in physics from Wisconsin who is also an MD from Michigan and board certified in radiation oncology, which of course is a treatment of cancer using x-ray therapy, so that he's an expert in the interpretations of x-rays and has become the leading expert on the medical evidence in the assassination in the world today.
A physician who was actually in trauma room number one when JFK's moribund body was brought in and then two days later was responsible for the care and treatment of his alleged assassin, Lee Oswald.
A legendary photo and film expert who just, you know, was so productive and made so many waves, including Recognizing that the Backyard Photograph, which was published on the cover of Time Magazine, and implicated Oswald in the minds of many in the public, holding a Mandelker Karkana with a pistol belt with a revolver, with which he's supposed to have shot Officer J.D.
Tippett, and holding two communist newspapers, The Worker and The Militant.
Well, Jack White recognized that those newspapers have known dimensions and therefore they could function as an internal ruler to determine the height of the individual in the backyard photograph.
And it turned out when you perform that experiment, that measurement, he was only 5'6", too short to have been Lee Oswald, who was about 5'10", we know from multiple sources.
And therefore, that in creating this backyard photograph, and there were four of them, which Lee Oswald had said was his face pasted on someone else's body when he was being interrogated by the Dallas homicide detective Will Fritz.
Who's never impressed me even remotely, but where it turns out everything that Lee ever said to Fritz has turned out to be true, that he knew something about photography and with time he'd be able to prove it.
Well, Jack gave a prima facie proof that the backyard photographs had been faked.
Anyone who understands the history of communism, which I discussed with a colleague when I was on the campus of the University of Minnesota Duluth, who is an expert in communism, And of course, it was terribly convenient to have this, as it were, motive and means presented, since everyone knew that he'd been working in the Texas School Book Depository.
and even try to kill each other.
And of course, it was terribly convenient to have this, as it were, motive and means presented
since everyone knew that he'd been working in the Texas School Book Depository.
Larry Rivera has done subsequent work where Jim Mars and I, in the meanwhile,
co-authored an article together about the backyard photographs
where we ascertain, based upon an oddity in the wrist, a bone that had not properly healed,
The stand-in for the backyard photographs appeared to have been one Roscoe White, who was at the time a Dallas police officer with ties to the CIA.
And where Larry Rivera found a suitable photograph of Roscoe, where he was at a beach in Trunks, and did a superposition of the images in the backyard photograph.
And Roscoe White was indeed the body double.
Indeed, Larry's work is so brilliant.
He also superimposed an image of Lee Oswald on the Backyard Photograph.
And Roscoe, who was much more muscular and robust across the chest and shoulders, was so much larger than Lee that when you superimpose Lee, you can see the great discrepancy in the size of Lee Oswald, who couldn't possibly have been the subject of the Backyard Photographs, which were, you know, Part and parcel of the effort to frame him.
Interestingly, that appears to have been left up largely to the Dallas Police Department, such that subsequently the kind of matting that would be required if you were going to fake one of these photographs was found in the desk of one of the Dallas detectives who claimed, oh, he only had it to see how it could be done.
But that's so silly on its face.
I mean, this really was proof that it had been done, so that Larry confirmed the fabrication of backyard photographs.
The whole idea of Oswald having the pistol is ridiculous.
While I fault Robert Grodin on many bases, for example, that he continues to this day to insist that the whole movies, including the Zapruder, are authentic, where he's accompanied by Josiah Thompson, whom I once admired, who maintains that the Zapruder film is the closest thing we have to absolute truth about the assassination, we've ascertained That the current version, the excellent version of 487 frames, is less than half of the original, which would have run about a thousand, where they took out the turn from Houston onto Elm, because the driver, William Greer, mistook the frontage road in front of the depository for Elm Street, swung out too widely,
Nearly hit a concrete abutment, had to pause to get back into line.
That was so embarrassing, Giuseppe.
It would have shaken the confidence in the American people in the ability of the Secret Service to protect the president.
Whereas it happens, I discovered 15 indications of Secret Service complicity in setting him up for the hit.
Including leaving two agents behind at Love Field.
These were the guys who would have ridden behind the limousine or run along beside it.
They were the two most crucial left behind at Love Field by Emery Roberts, who was the agent in charge of the detail.
The motorcade was all in the wrong sequence.
The presidential limousine was put out front so it would be easier for the multiple assassins to identify the target.
Jackie was given a huge bouquet of red roses, whereas in the past, and this was a multiple stop visit to Texas and Jackie's first political trip with JFK, she'd been given yellow roses, you know, the yellow rose of Texas.
Right.
And that was to indicate, you know, not only that where Jackie was located in the limousine, but also the red meant stop.
She was not to be harmed.
Now, we all know that Governor Connolly was riding in the vehicle, in the Lincoln limousine with JFK, but what most don't know is that there was a huge argument between LBJ and JFK that morning, where Lyndon, Wanted to get John Connolly, his political ally and co-conspirator, out of the limousine so he wouldn't be in the line of fire, where Jack overrode him on the ground that the chief executive of the state ought to accompany the chief executive of the United States, which is a very appropriate political judgment.
But where it was too late to get the words to the assassins, so that one of them, who actually turns out to have been Malcolm Mack Wallace, who was Lyndon Johnson's personal hitman, who murdered a dozen people for Lyndon, including One of his own sisters, who talked too much, fired at Conley in the mistaken belief it was Ralph Yarborough, the liberal Texas senator whom Lyndon despised and wanted to have in the car instead of Conley, which tended to obfuscate the politics.
That's pretty fascinating stuff.
But also, where Larry Revere has confirmed what Ralph Zinke first pointed out to me, that in the background of the most famous photograph from the assassination taken by AP photographer James I. Galchans, you can see a figure leaning out of the book depository doorway That many have thought was Lee Oswald himself, which obviously completely contradicts the official account of the assassination.
Since if Lee was in the doorway, he not only cannot have been the lone demented gunman, but he cannot have been one of the shooters at all.
And indeed, where Harold Weisberg, in his series of whitewash books, the second one, Photographic Whitewash, already published in like 1967, explained that the Warren Commission staff was having a terrible time concealing the fact that Lee Oswald had been captured in this very famous photograph.
And where even Jim Garrison, who of course would bring the suit against You know, some of the conspirators who happen to be in New Orleans also believe properly that Lee was in the doorway.
But where Robert Grodin, in advising Oliver Stone in making his magisterial film JFK, and where he'd also served as a special consultant to the House Select Committee on Assassinations, which reinvestigated the case in 1976-77, He was assigned the case of determining whether or not those reports of Lee and the doorway were or were not true, and he came back with a claim that he'd done a pixel analysis
That if you analyze the pattern of the long-sleeve, richly textured shirt that was on the man in the doorway, and compared it with a shirt that Lee Oswald was wearing when he was arrested, that they were not a match.
Well, ironically, Judith Berry-Vaker, who has been a huge fan of Robert Grodin, and who appears to have been Lee Oswald's girlfriend in New Orleans, As a knack for these things, and actually did a study showing that what Groton had published was completely false, that the patterns are a match, where subsequently, Ralph Sienke, who founded the Oswald Innocence Campaign, which is predicated on the proposition that since Lee was in the doorway at the time the motorcade passed by, he cannot possibly have been responsible for the assassination.
In an attempt to vindicate him, where Lee actually turns out to have been working for the U.S.
government.
He appears to have been recruited when he was a Marine Corps recruit at San Diego, where I would subsequently serve as a series commander with 15 DIs and 300 recruits under my command going through the training cycle that he was assigned to at Soogie.
The most secure base in the American military arsenal, the location from which the U-2 flights were taking place over the Soviet Union.
They knew the flights were taking place, they did not know the altitude and therefore were unable to shoot them down, where Oswald was a radar operator and knew the information about the altitude of the flights and did a pseudo-defection to the Soviet Union on a Sunday when his renunciation of his citizenship had no legal consequence and appears to have provided that information to the Soviets, such that when Khrushchev and Eisenhower were about to have a summit meeting that would reduce international tensions,
Khrushchev accused Eisenhower of spying on the Soviet Union.
Eisenhower denied it.
But then Khrushchev presented parts of the plane and the pilot, Gary Francis Powers, who had not taken his cyanide bill, which was pretty decisive evidence as to what had happened.
Now, L. Fletcher Prouty, who was actually at the Pentagon and working for Edward Lansdale, who, by the way, appears to have been the one who positioned the shooters and determined the sequence of shots in Dealey Plaza, where Lansdale was responsible for conducting assassinations around the world, but especially in Vietnam during Operation Phoenix.
...has reported that, in fact, they had messed with the gauge, the fuel gauge on the U-2, that he only had half the fuel he thought he had, so that if the Soviets had not shot him down, the plane was going to come down anyway, by design, so that the summit was, you know, aborted, and a situation that was supposed to reduce international tensions instead had the effect of increasing them, Where when Lee Oswald returned to the United States after having married the niece of a KGB colonel, no less, a very fetching young woman by the name of Marina, he was not treated as a traitor but rather met by a CIA front organization that gave him money to relocate
To New Orleans, initially, and where Marina would go to Dallas and stay with a family, the Paynes, who actually were tied to the CIA.
We have reason to believe the whole book depository was actually a CIA fraud, and three of the shots were fired from the open window of a book closet of a uranium mining company in the Dow Text Building that was another CIA asset.
Well, I got to know a fellow by the name of Chauncey Marvin Holt, who was a third of the three tramps being escorted through Dealey Plaza, where Chauncey spoke out.
He had a fascinating history.
He was an artist.
He was an engraver.
He was a painter.
He had an excellent mind.
He ran a school for assassins.
Two contracts were put out on Chauncey.
on Chauncey and the designated assassins came out on the short end of the stick, where Chauncey
was tasked to prepare 15 sets of forged Secret Service credentials for use in and around
Dealey Plaza.
He explained to me, and we got to know each other, I visited with him personally at a
restaurant beneath the Rose Bowl way back when, after he called me up at like 4.30 in
the morning to tell me he'd just watched this three and a half hour production I'd put together
about the assassination, probably the most comprehensive ever produced, to tell me he
thought I'd got it right, which I thought was pretty good, Giuseppe, for a participant
in the assassination to tell me he thought I'd got it right, that he'd stayed up all
night watching it and he just wanted to let me know.
So, you know, we got to know each other.
He would go on the radio and talk about his having forged those credentials.
He told me that the CIA has all these innocuous-sounding proprietories.
In fact, he was working at the Los Angeles Stamp and Stationery Store.
Which was like a five-story building.
And the first three floors were legitimate business, but the top two, the CIA was running its information and ID fabrication operation.
For example, the Alec Idel identification that Oswald had when he was picked up in New Orleans, and even had when he was arrested in Dallas, were made at the Los Angeles Stamp and Stationery Store.
Chauncey told me when he was designated to do this, he worried that he wouldn't get the color-coded pins the Secret Service wear that change from day to day, but he got that information in time.
He was tasked to come to Dallas and leave them in a red pickup truck that would be parked in the lot behind the grassy knoll.
Now, most Americans have no idea, but that's a parking lot used by the Dallas Police Department.
So he went and looked for it, but it was not present.
So he wandered around Dealey Plaza.
He told me he saw more hitmen, assassins, and mercenaries than you'd find at a Soldier of Fortune convention.
Which was undoubtedly to create a whole lot of red herrings, you know, for anyone who sought to investigate.
But he returned and the truck was there.
So he left the 15 sets of Secret Service credentials at the appointed place.
He'd been given instructions to proceed in the company of two others.
One of whom he knew as Richard Montoya.
The other, Harrison, the father of Woody Harrison, who actually would be convicted of murder of a federal judge with a high-powered rifle.
And it turns out that the fellow he knew as Richard Montoya actually was Charles Rogers.
So in the company of Charles Rogers, Charles Harrelson, Chauncey proceeded down to a railroad car that would appear to be unlocked, but would actually be unlocked.
And when they climbed in, they found it was full of explosives, ammunition, and weapons.
Which has led me to believe that, in fact, they were the backup Patsy's, Giuseppe.
If Lee hadn't panned out, that they would have called upon Rogers, Harrelson, and Chauncey, who all had ties to organized crime, as the backup Patsy's.
Now, the train tried to pull out.
But the supervisor of the rail yard thought something was suspicious, and he called them back, and the police discovered them and then marched them through Dealey Plaza.
So you see the three in the order of Charles Rogers, Charles Harrelson, the tallest, where
Charles Rogers is sometimes called Frenchy, and then Chauncey, the third, the oldest,
carrying a paper bag, which he told me had some high-tech communication gear and a handmade
pistol that the police had found of great interest, but they were never booked, so there
was no formal record.
While they were being escorted through Dealey Plaza, however, by two ersatz cops who appear
to have been fake too, just actors, a man with a distinctive gait and an odd hand problem
with a distinctive ring walked past them.
It was actually Edward Lansdale who was on his way to meet up with George Herbert Walker Bush, whom I believe I was the first to identify in a photograph standing in front of the Book Depository building with his characteristic height, weight, stance, hand in his pocket, head tilted forward.
When I saw this in Jesse Curry's JFK assassination file, where Jesse Curry had been the chief of police at Dallas at the time the assassination went down, I shared that information with others because it was so striking, and Richard Hook did a lot of very good work, even suggesting that George Herbert Walker Bush, who was in the Daltex building supervising the shooter there, was firing a Mannlicher Carcano, three shots, to set up the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
Anticastro-Cuban by the name of Nestor Tony Escadro.
And Bush, ironically, was arrested when he exited the Daltex.
He identified himself as a Houston oil man, which was his cover in the CIA, where he appears—although when he was made the director of the agency, it was claimed that this was the first time a civilian with no prior experience with the agency had been Elevated to that position, it was all nonsense.
He'd actually supervised the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba.
He'd renamed two of the ships Barbara and Houston, which was what he'd done with his plane in World War II.
He named it after his wife, Barbara.
And where the whole operation was known as Operation Zapata, which is the same as the name of the Bush family oil drilling company, where I'm convinced that had the invasion been successful, Zapata Oil would have had the concession to drill all over the Caribbean base.
We'll pick it up here when we come back from the break.
We're missing Alan.
We wish he could join us, but we're going to use this opportunity to discuss a number of rather important issues I think you will appreciate.
Well, Jim, that magisterial summation of JFK clearly reveals that You are indeed a government agent who went deep cover and then you returned and became rogue and fought the government.
You got it, Giuseppe!
We'll be right back.
I don't know, maybe Mitchell killed it.
Did you kill it, Mitchell?
There we go.
I'm going to play a little bit of this.
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Well, Giuseppe, given the proximity to the observance of the assassination, because it
was a dark day in American history, I prefer not to refer to it as an anniversary, which
is something we want to celebrate, but rather as an observance.
Let me mention that Oliver Stone's film is a masterpiece of cinema that I was actually drawn into serious JFK research By an attempt to attack it and take it out by a rather prominent figure where I was just lying in bed drinking a cup of coffee and reading the paper when my wife said, you got to see this and flipped on the TV.
And there was a rather distinguished looking gentleman standing behind a lectern with a logo of the American Medical Association.
He was attacking everyone who'd ever done serious research on the assassination, like Like, you know, Mark Lane and a host of others, David Lifton, attacking Charles Crenshaw, who actually was the physician who was in trauma room number one, and then two days later responsible for the care and treatment of his alleged assassin, Lee Oswald, and calling Oliver Stone's film docufiction.
Well, he was promoting interviews with the two pathologists in charge of the autopsy of Bethesda, James Humes and T. Thornton Boswell, who were assisted by an army pathologist by the name, oddly enough, of Pierre Fink.
Rafiq was the only one of the three who had any experience with gunshot victims, and I'm convinced that's part of the reason why Humes and Boswell were selected, as well as that they were known to defer to authority and do what they were told.
So we didn't, we got not just a totally incompetent autopsy, but Humes actually altered the body physically, took a cranial saw to the skull of JFK and enlarged a fist side blowout to the back of the head.
So he was now missing the whole back of his head to make it appear as though it could have been caused by a shot from behind had JFK been leaning sufficiently forward.
We're David Lifton.
Was the first to sort this out and realize that the description of the wound in the Bethesda autopsy report, which is with mathematical detail, was so enormous that something very, very strange had happened.
And it would require the Assassination Record Review Board, when they were seeking to depose everyone who had been a witness or a participant, and got to Robinson, the fellow who'd been the mortician who prepared the body for burial, about these dotted lines on a diagram that Boswell had drawn, and he explained to them, oh no, the doctors did that, because when Humes took the cranial saw to the skull of JFK,
He was sitting there with him with a radiologist, another technician from from Bethesda.
I mean, if you're gonna perform a feat like that, you might show more discretion.
Also, it appears to me that the throat wound, which was a small, clean puncture wound that was described three times during the Dallas press conference that was held a half an hour after JFK was declared dead by the acting press secretary, who put his finger right up to his temple and said it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head, attributing that finding to Admiral George Berkeley, the president's physician, Three times, Perry, who'd performed a simple tracheostomy incision through the wound, which was right here in the middle of the throat, described it as a wound of entry.
Three different times a bullet was coming at him.
This was a wound of entry, it was not a wound of exit.
So that, you know, this was a transcript that was never shared with the Warren Commission members to perpetrate the cover-up.
In fact, it's ironic, Giuseppe, And I believe a reason why most Americans were profoundly skeptical when the Warren Commission report was announced, the Warren report was announced in 1964, that there'd only been three shots with two hits, all of which had been fired from above and behind, because on national television that day, two wounds were reported.
the shot to the throat, which obviously had been fired from in front where the bullet actually
passed through the windshield en route to its target, and the shot to the right temple.
In fact, the whole sequence is a bit more elaborate.
The first shot that hit Jack was fired from the top of the county records building by
a deputy sheriff by the name of Harry Weatherford using a 30-06 to fire a Mannlicher Carcano
bullet to implicate Oswald in the assassination.
Jim Mars and I agree about this.
It was done using a sabot, which is a plastic collar.
It may account for why this was a very shallow shot, about five and a half inches below the
collar just to the right of the spinal column.
We have the shirt he wore, the jacket he wore.
David W. Mantic, MD, who is the Ph.D.
from Wisconsin, M.D.
from Michigan, board-certified in radiation oncology, leading expert on the medical evidence.
Actually, during one of his multiple visits to the National Archives, where he was studying the material with the permission of Burke Marshall, who is a Kennedy family attorney, had a member of the staff put on the shirt and the jacket.
And determined that the hole in the shirt was just ever so slightly below the hole in the jacket, indicating a downward angle, and where the bullet only went in as far as the second knuckle of your little finger.
It's entirely plausible, by the way, that that bullet worked its way out, even in the limousine, and could have been planted on the stretcher as the so-called magic bullet, where, by the way, When it turned out that, while the government had initially insisted, and this was the conclusion of both the FBI and the Secret Service on the day of the assassination,
That three shots had been fired with three hits.
That Jack had been hit in the back five and a half inches below the collar just to the right of the spinal column, a non-fatal shot.
That Governor Connolly had been hit in the back by a bullet that passed through his body and then hit his right wrist and wound up in his left thigh, which may have been caused by three separate independent shots, by the way.
And then that Jack had been hit in the back of the head, killing him.
Well, when it came to light, when it surfaced publicly, that a distant bystander by the name of James Tagg had been injured by a bullet that had missed and hit a curbing and where a fleck of the concrete had actually cut his cheek.
So there was blood.
I believe he had a scar.
He only recently expired.
But that meant that they had now to subtract one of the three hits.
So what they did was to move the shot to the back, to his uppermost back initially, but that wasn't sufficient.
It was already an exaggeration.
Gerald Ford, who was then a junior member of the commission, had the shot relocated, described as entering the base of the back of the neck.
So that Arlen Specter, who was then a junior counsel working for the commission, would argue.
And put to Malcolm Perry, for example, this is just to show you why lawyers have a bad name.
I mean, I've known some excellent attorneys, but there are others who have different characteristics and are willing to deviate for the truth.
He asked Malcolm Perry, now remember this is the guy who performed a simple tracheostomy incision in this clean puncture wound to the throat that was obviously a wound of entry, who at three times asserted it was a wound of entry, the bullet was coming at him.
So they had to neutralize Malcolm Perry's testimony, lest there be at least two shooters and therefore a conspiracy.
So oral inspector asked him this hypothetical question which Mark Lane highlighted in his brilliant book Rush to Judge when he said, if we assume that the bullet entered here at the base of the back of the neck and that it passed through the neck without hitting any bony structures and that it came out here at the front of the throat, would that be consistent with describing the wound to the throat as a wound of accent?
And of course, if you make those assumptions, it can't be anything other than a wound of exit, to which Malcolm Perry replied that yes, but he was not in a position to vouch for or verify the assumptions he'd been asked to make, which of course were totally discrepant from the facts of the matter.
Well, David Mandink found a patient with similar chest and neck dimensions to JFK and created a CAT scan and then plotted the official trajectory from the base of the back of the neck to the accident at the throat and found it's not even anatomically possible.
Why?
Because cervical vertebrae intervene, which is why Arlen Sector had to include that clause, assuming it hit no bony structures.
It's not even possible.
So he was asking...
Malcolm Perry to make an assumption that was not just counterfactual, meaning contrary to the facts, but was anatomically impossible.
And I'll tell you, that's one of the clues to, you know, recognizing you're dealing with a fantasy or a fabrication.
If any assertion is made in the context of a narrative of what happened, And this is as true of 9-11 and of Sandy Hook and of other of these events as it is of JFK, then you know you're dealing with a fabricated story that cannot possibly be true.
Now, so David dispatched the magic bullet theory.
It's not even anatomically possible, and yet you see one reconstruction after another where they're showing a bullet entering the back of the neck and passing through the neck.
Well, there's a feature missing from all the stand-ins or the fabrications or the molds they use to make those scenarios work.
To wit, The figure there does not have a backbone.
He doesn't have a spinal column, which is highly ironic because, of course, the reason JFK was taken out was precisely because he did have backbone.
The man was of great integrity.
He was basically assassinated because he believed he was President of the United States.
So this was a way of emphatically undermining That anyone who occupies that office really is only there by virtue of those who are in real control, allowing them to continue to survive.
Returning to Oliver Stone's magisterial film then, which shows having the Dallas roots because the Texas oilmen were very upset that Jack was planning to cut the oil depletion allowance, which was a fantastic tax write-off close to a Well, I think it was around 28% of the tax write-off on the ground that oil was a finite resource, and therefore, by pumping oil out of the ground, they were putting themselves out of business.
It was a stretch any way you look at it.
We now know today that oil is not a finite resource, that it's not a fossil fuel, that Earth, during its natural processes, produced unlimited quantities of oil.
It's virtually an inexhaustible supply.
You may recall a decade or more ago we had a catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico when a rig that was doing deep drilling actually tapped into this vast reservoir of oil and it caused, you know, havoc in the Gulf of Mexico and then they sought to suppress it by putting this a toxin on it, correct it on top of it to suppress the
appearance, which is itself a lethal product.
So I mean, I'm telling you, this is all quite grotesque.
Now, the fact of the matter is that Oliver Stone's film shows a joint chiefs' run with
JFK because he, there were actually three grounds.
He'd not invaded Cuba, contrary to the unanimous recommendation.
He'd gone ahead and signed an above-ground test ban treaty with the Soviet Union, contrary to their unanimous opposition.
And he was now pulling our forces out of Vietnam by the end of 1964, where they believed a stand had to be taken against the expansion of international godless communism.
Now, that was always a myth.
The Vietnamese are fiercely nationalistic.
They would never kowtow to China.
But according to the domino theory advocated by Henry Kissinger, for example, to justify our present there, that once Vietnam fell to the Chinese communists, then Laos and Cambodia and all of Southeast Asia and eventually the Philippines and then New Zealand, Australia.
I mean, it was a fantasy, but it was politically The CIA was upset with Jack because he was threatening to shatter it into a thousand pieces in the wake of the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
He had Maxwell, Taylor, and Bobby conduct an investigation, and they discovered that Castro had learned not just the U.S.
was going to invade, but the actual date of the invasions.
The Soviets had learned the information, shared it with Castro.
The CIA knew, the Soviets knew, and that Castro knew we were coming.
Everyone involved, in other words, knew the score, except for the commander-in-chief.
I have no doubt that had Jack Kennedy become aware, That Castro already knew we were coming, that he would have called it off.
Then you had the Mafia, which may or may not have believed they had an agreement with Bobby and Jack's father, Joe, who made a huge amount of money when he learned Prohibition was going to end and, you know, took control of importation of scotch into the United States and became fabulously wealthy.
We have multiple stories that Joe Kennedy reached an agreement with a mob that if they made sure that Jack carried Chicago and Illinois to become president, That they would do that in return for the Kennedy administration laying off the mob.
Well, Jack and Bobby were to party to that if indeed such an agreement was struck.
And it may be that Joe did work out such a deal.
And by appointing Bobby Attorney General, he went after organized crime, brought more indictments and convictions.
See, just as Jay Edgar had dossiers on all the members of Congress, The mob had a dossier on J. Edgar, including photographs of him in, shall we say, compromising positions with his close personal friend and aide, Clyde Tolson.
Edgar, as many know, would occasionally wear women's clothing.
Well, these photographs were far more telling than that, okay, of Edgar, so that he was unable to even acknowledge the existence of organized crime until after the Giovalacci hearings before Congress, which were so detailed and specific it was no longer politically palatable to deny them.
But up until that point, Edgar was completely silent and even denied the existence of organized crime.
Then you have the Eastern establishment surrounding the Fed.
JFK had instructed the Department of the Treasury to print United States notes, and they printed About $10 billion, I believe, of these United States notes on the ground that it was absurd for the American government to be paying a consortium of private banks, which is the true character of the Fed, interest for printing the currency of the United States.
In fact, when you hear all this talk about, you know, the national debt, The overwhelming majority of that national debt is hypothetical.
It's a crude interest on the interest owed to the Fed for printing the currency of the United States.
Jack thought it was absurd.
And have the Department of the Treasury begin printing United States notes, which had a red embossed imprint instead of a green and said United States note rather than a Federal Reserve note.
And I remember as a young Marine Corps officer holding one of these in my hand.
In fact, I have one that was sent to me that's laminated to this day.
So they couldn't tolerate that.
And then, of course, you had Israel.
Jack was at loggerheads with David Ben-Gurion, who is a founder and the first PM of Israel, who wanted Israel to develop nuclear weapons.
Jack was opposed because he believed it would start a nuclear arms race in Israel.
David Ben-Gurion, it appears, was so infuriated that he actually instructed the Mossad to participate in the assassination when he resigned from his office.
So that, in fact, we have discovered there were not just the three shooting teams that Oliver Stone posited, where he did not know that the Zapruder film had been massively edited.
Not only did they take out 100 frames turning from Houston onto M, but the driver, William Grove, pulled the limousine to the left and to a halt to make sure JFK would be killed.
During that interview interval, he was hit in the back of the head by one of those three shots fired from the Daltex just to show how unreliable is the Mannlicher Carcano, which was known as a humanitarian rifle in World War II for never harming anyone on purpose.
You had that one miss that hit the curbing and injured James Hagee.
You had another miss that hit the chrome strip over the limousine, but the third After Greer had brought the limousine to a halt, hit Jack in the back of the head, in the vicinity of the external occipital protuberance, that bump in your head where you'd rest if you were lying in a bathtub, Jack slumped forward.
Jackie eased him up, was looking him right in the face when he was hit in the right temple by the bullet fired from the intersection of the triple underpass and the picket fence by Frank Sturgess, a soldier of fortune, working with a CIA who may have been the best marksman in the world at the time.
Blew out his brains out the back of his head, a fist-sized gaping hole, and then Jack slumped to the left, slumped to the left.
When they edited the film, they tried to merge the two shots so that all that remains from the forward motion is between frame 312 and 313.
There's forward motion, and then we have this violent back and to the left because they over-edited it, they took out too many frames.
Now it turns out that During this limousine stop, Officer Hargis, who when Jack was hit and his brains blown out, was hit by the debris so hard that he thought he himself had been shot, parked his bike and ran between the two limousines, which he could not have done had they been in motion,
Up to the grassy knoll from which he believed shots had been fired.
Officer Jackson riding on the right side motored his bike up the embankment right up the grassy knoll until it fell over.
Then he proceeded on foot in pursuit of the shooter or shooters.
Meanwhile, five agents dismounted from the Secret Service Cadillac, which they referred to as the Queen Mary's, surrounded the presidential limousine.
One took a chunk of skull from a little boy and threw it in the back of the limousine before they got back in and took off for the Parkland Hospital.
Now, I originally thought the limo stop was only a few seconds, but Larry Rivera discovered That Fred Newcomb had actually deposed the four motorcycle patrolmen and their supervisor, Stavis Ellis, back in 1971.
He painstakingly transcribed the interviews, which had never been done before, and established the sequence as I've just described it for you here today.
So Larry Rivera has been doing this cutting-edge research.
You can find it in his book about the JFK horsemen, referring to the four motorcycle escort officers, Available on moonrockbooks.com, so I highly recommend it.
So Oliver did not know three key features that we now have established.
Namely, that Lee was indeed in the doorway of the book depository, and therefore cannot have been not only the low-commanded shooter, but one of the gunmen.
Number two, that the Zapruder film has been massively edited and therefore cannot be regarded as the closest thing to absolute truth we have about the assassination, and that there were many more than three.
There were actually eight different shooters, where it appears each of the groups and individuals who want to jack out, put up their own gunmen
to tie them together.
That's why we have a Dallas deputy sheriff, we have a Dallas police officer, we have an
Air Force expert, we have a CIA shooter, we have an Israeli shooter, we have Lyndon Johnson's
personal hitman, we have an anti-Castro Cuban. I go through all of this in some detail in my
more recent specials on JFK, one of which I recommend done recently for a show I also do
today, just specials, called the Goldfish Report.
If you go to BritChute channel Jim Fetzer and scroll down to the 15th, you'll find the JFK special, the Goldfish Report, where I go through everything I've been describing here.
So Oliver Stone did a masterful job.
I believe when he set out to do a second, a sequel, that he may have had me in mind as a resource, because I've now published four books, all edited, where I bring together the best experts.
Assassination Science, 1998.
Murder in Deep Plaza, 2000.
The Great Zapruder Film Hoax, 2003.
And then JFK, who, how, and why, 2017.
And let me just say, a hit piece was put out with the Out of the Blue by a guy named Jim DiGegnio.
And at the time, I thought it was so damn peculiar because he was not only attacking me for work on JFK, but 9-11, Whalestone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing.
Even on the Holocaust, according to DiEugenio, I got nothing right.
But the fact of the matter is, everything he said about me was wrong.
It took seven and a half hours.
I did a seven-hour rebuttal laying out all the evidence.
But I believe it was actually published then to dissuade Oliver Stone from even considering moving forward with me and my experts.
Because that would have really upset the applecart by exposing what had actually happened to JFK, how we know the Warren Commission didn't get it right, and how Oliver Stone in his magisterial film JFK had certainly moved in the right direction, but was handicapped by being given false information by someone he trusted to wit Robert Grodin.
So here you're getting an idea of how the CIA has infiltrated truth groups in order to defeat them and make it all but impossible to succeed where we're doing our best in spite of it.
We'll be back after this break and we'll pick up on some current developments Which have to do with the current state of journalism in the United States.
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It's very important for the public to understand that Operation Mockingbird, which is an infiltration
of the news media in the United States, began back in the 1950s.
And by the time of the assassination of JFK, it was already in full bloom.
So there were any number of journalists who were reporting at the time who actually were in on it, And, you know, seeking to confirm that three and only three shots had been fired when actually there'd been 10 or 12 or more.
I mean, even Dave Powers would later tell Tip O'Neill.
That was like a turkey shoot there.
The bullets were whizzing all over the place.
And Tip took him to task and said, that's not what you told the Warren Commission.
And Powers had to humbly concede, well, they thought the family just wanted to get it behind them as though there were any substitute for truth here.
Which is why, Giuseppe, so many believe that we'll never get back on a proper footing until we straighten out what happened with The greatest murder mystery in history, the assassination of our 35th president, which was just a piece of skullduggery.
Whereas you can see the way in which they framed the outcome.
And this was crucial because Lyndon Johnson had been the brain trust behind it all.
The assassination actually began in Los Angeles.
The plotting of the assassination began in Los Angeles in 1960.
When Lyndon was running against JFK for the presidential nomination of the Democratic Party.
And after Jack won, triumphed, he invited Stuart Symington of Missouri to be his running mate, but gave Stuart overnight to think about it.
Bobby, in the meanwhile, made a visit to the Johnson suite to extend a pro forma offer, never imagined that the Majority leader, the powerful majority leader of the United States Senate, would have the least interest.
He was dumbfounded when Lyndon jumped on it, threatened to expose that among Jack's many dalliances was one with an East German woman who was a spy, that he had Addison's disease, and that he was not expected to live a long, healthy life.
And moreover, that if he were not on the ticket, then any administrative legislative proposal from the White House would be dead on arrival, because in his position as a Senate Majority Leader, he would bottle them up.
Jack and Bobby were dumbfounded, but Lyndon had them boxed in, and they couldn't figure a way out, so they had to accede to Lyndon's demands.
When one of Johnson's rich supporters learned he'd be on the ticket with Jack, He burst into the Johnson Suite cursing and swearing because now LBJ was going to help JFK become elected.
Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind.
He came out all smiles and said he thought that was an excellent plan.
Bobby Baker would later declare in public That JFK would not live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
As events would develop, Lyndon sent his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
And we get corroboration from those who knew Lyndon up close and personal, Madeleine Duncan Brown, a mistress, with whom he began an affair in 1948, who bore him a son, Stephen, in 1950, with whom I had a hundred conversations.
Billy Solesnes, for example, one of their henchmen, you know, who met with Cliff Carter and who knew Malcolm Wallace, and who had formed the opinion that they'd both been deeply involved in the assassination.
Barb McClellan, who published Blood Money Power about Lyndon Johnson's attorney, and now a lot of the planning for the assassination had taken place in those law offices.
The book to read is by Phil Nelson entitled LBJ Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, and I assure you, after you've read the first few chapters, you'll have no doubt at all that Lyndon was absolutely ruthless and ambitious, wanted to be president of all of the people.
There was nothing he would not do.
So, the bottom line on JFK is it truly was all the way with LBJ.
Giuseppe, your thoughts?
Well, Jim, what's stunning to me is it's been, what, 58 years now, coming up in a couple weeks, that the international Jew, the globalist, Put together the League of Villains to cooperate together to kill our 35th president, the last legitimate president we ever had.
And it's amazing that it was supposed to be suppressed for only 50 years and now Trump and now Biden both continue to Suppressed the actual facts and what's obvious to me, after decades of research, is how these satanic villains, this all ties together.
How the Kennedy sacrifice, blood sacrifice, led up eventually to the 9-11 blood sacrifice, which now leads to the scam devic and the mass murder sacrifice of millions.
of goyim cattle and this is all essentially a long game by the
Illuminati, the hidden hand, whatever you want to call it.
It all ties together and you're absolutely right it's so vital
that at some point the the actual full investigation documents come out.
It's ridiculous at this point that they're still being suppressed for quote national security.
I think that the only security they're protecting is the security of the The parasites that are still in power and have used the Kennedy assassination as a springboard to all the nefarious schemes that are occurring in the present day.
Well, you sure got all of those right, Giuseppe.
Let me say, when the Warren Commission report was released, it was a decision that none of the documents and supporting records could be released to the public for 75 years.
Now, it just happens that that was the average expected lifetime of American citizens, 75 years.
So they wanted it to be the case that everyone had been alive to witness these events as they took place.
And the reporting, which is fantastic, such as, as I suggest now, if you go and watch, see it now, the NBC recounting for that day.
You see the two shots, the throat shot being reported in detail.
You see the head shot being reported in detail.
Which is why I believe the American public was profoundly skeptical when the Warren Commission came out with this report that all the shots had been fired from above and behind.
We already knew better.
But putting two and two together and realizing what was going on here didn't add up would become challenging because basically Lyndon Johnson as president was in complete control.
He shut off other investigations.
By forming the Warren Commission.
He appointed the FBI as the sole investigative agency.
There were already investigations going on in Texas that were making headway and exposing what had really happened.
And there were multiple investigations in Congress.
Where Lyndon was in a position to make good on the promise that had been given to all of the participants that none of them would ever be punished for participating in the assassination of JFK.
You want to know that Lyndon Johnson and Jay Edgar were neighbors in Washington, D.C., that Edgar was the godfather to one of Lyndon's daughters, and they both despised Jack Kennedy.
When he threatened to expose that among Jack's dalliances had been one with a beautiful woman who was a spy for East Germany, for example, that was based upon information that was provided to him by J. Edgar Hoover.
We have every reason to believe, by the way, that the FBI and the CIA were involved not only in that assassination, but in that of Martin Luther King in Memphis, and subsequently of Bobby Kennedy as well.
So that, you know, Hoover had a visceral hatred of Martin Luther King.
Martin, who had his own weaknesses, had a predilection for sex with white women, and Hoover would have the bedrooms bogged, and then he'd send the tapes of Martin having sex with these women to Martin's wife as a form of harassment and threat.
I mean, the stories going on here are incredible.
Indeed, Martin did not die on the balcony of the Lorraine Motel in Dallas.
He was instead transported to a hospital, one more distant than necessary, because it had a physician there who promised that if he weren't already dead, bring him to me and I'll finish the job.
So when he took him into the emergency hospital there, The doctor had everyone else leave and he smothered Martin Luther King to death with a pillow.
I mean, there are so many aspects to these cases.
And Bobby, of course, was supposed to make his exit from the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles through the Grand Ballroom.
But instead, he was diverted by a trusted member of his staff to go through the pantry where it was a setup and where Bobby was actually shot Three times, under the armpit and behind the right ear.
By close proximity, the gun that fired the shot was only an inch and a half away from his head.
There was another shot fired that simply passed through his clothing.
All this happened When Sirhan Sirhan, who was a Patsy, just as James Earl Ray was a Patsy in Memphis, Sirhan Sirhan was firing these shots in a kind of quasi-hypnotic trance as a massive distraction, so that there were like 14 different bullet holes found in the pantry area, the Ambassador,
And where the then Chief of the Los Angeles Police, Gates, who ran it with an iron hand, they refused to retain the evidence because it wouldn't fit into a three-by-five file card.
I mean, this tells you how the Dallas cops wanted to get their Kennedy just as the Los Angeles cops wanted to get their Kennedy just as the Dallas cops had got theirs.
The history of these matters, Giuseppe, is just disgusting beyond words.
Well, Jim, as it's been documented and outlined for decades, the The Secret Society, the Freemason slash Illuminati slash Hidden Hand, they have CIA, have operatives everywhere as you yourself have interviewed Jesse the Body Ventura when his unlikely independent
campaign for the governor of minnesota led him to become elected
uh... governor of minnesota and he was uh... asked uh...
come down to uh... a meeting in taking into a basement and he essentially walked into a pseudo star chamber where
people he had recognized earlier as the guy doing uh...
the uh... the the maintenance and garbage and other people were actually sit around that table
and they were they they all were were intensely querying him
as to how did he get elected and what was it here is real intentions
So the level of Of infiltration and control at every step of society existed way back then with Kennedy, of course.
And Jim, my question to you is, Joe Kennedy was a player.
He was a dirty dog at every level.
In fact, so much so that he used to blatantly walk his mistresses into his mansion.
He operated his business out of the mansion.
And you know, it was no secret that old Joe had an itch that he had to scratch.
And so my theory is that the reason Jack and Bobby were so...
Uh, you know, heroic in trying to use the power of the presidency and the power of the executive branch of government to change the world for the better was because they were actually deeply influenced and raised by their mother, Rose, who was a devout Catholic.
And so, It would seem that the powers that be who respected just what a dirty dog Joe Kennedy was assumed his sons were going to play ball and then they literally flipped the script and started to do things for the good of the common man and sealed their fate.
What do you think of that?
Oh, I think there's a lot to that, Giuseppe.
Now, that's into psychological background, but I think it's incredibly plausible what you're suggesting here.
I do believe they were inspired to do good.
It was the Kennedy family ethos, actually, Joe, I agree, was compromised, but he certainly believed in his sons.
He wanted his oldest son, Joe, to be the president of the United States.
Joe was killed in a bombing run.
I think they were unloading bombs that hadn't been dropped in World War II in a plane above his, dropped a bomb on Joe and ended his political career permanently.
Jack, of course, had been injured in World War II, the story of PT-109, where he actually saved a fellow soldier, but also injured his back.
So that even in Dallas, he was wearing a kind of a corset that kept him strapped in very tightly.
So he couldn't dodge or duck.
He was basically a sitting duck.
And the conspirators knew all of that, of course.
Teddy, they took out at Chad McQuinnick to compromise him so badly he couldn't run for president, but there are good reasons to praise his service subsequently as a senator from Massachusetts.
I do believe, by the way, That Bobby had the strongest spine of them all.
I greatly admired Bobby.
I have said before I would have given my life for Jack or for Bobby.
I believe, you know, Bobby was perhaps even more.
A mountain of integrity than Jack.
I remember when Martin died, I was on an interstate, and when Bobby began to address his death, I pulled over to the side of the road so I wouldn't miss a single word of it.
He was a great inspiration, and now his son, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., He has been doing brilliant work in the area of health, but just to give you a clue as to how the mainstream is managing events, he was supposed to appear last night on Coast to Coast and talk about Anthony Fauci, on whom he has a book that details Fauci's criminal past.
This is not a good guy.
This is not a whiteout.
This is a demon.
I have said many times, Anthony Fauci is going to be responsible for more deaths than any other figure in history, that the mass murders for which he will be accountable are going to exceed those of the combined tolls by our foreign enemies, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Emperor Hirohito combined.
Bobby was going to expose that on Coast to Coast, which of course has one of the largest audiences of any program in America, perhaps.
Not as large as it once was, but it's still very substantial.
Somehow the show never managed to air.
Bobby was not put on.
They haven't explained or rescheduled.
So I think there's a part.
They did something, by the way, to his throat to affect his vocal cords so that he would not be an inspiring orator.
I mean, if he had his voice back, he would have been and therefore a massive potential threat.
Indeed, One of the motives for taking out JFK was the fear of a Kennedy dynasty, that you're going to have Jack serve two terms, and then Bobby would serve two terms, and then Teddy would serve two terms, and it would have transformed America.
I mean, if Jack had simply had a second term himself, it would have made an enormous difference to the subsequent history of our nation.
So that was, you know, also a factor that played into the overall equation.
I do believe that taking out Jack was much more of an American event than an Israeli-dominated, though they threw in and did have one of the shooters in Dallas.
I don't regard it as an Israeli event, contrary to A wonderful book called The Final Solution by Michael Collins Piper.
I admire the book.
It makes a lot of good points, but this was not an Israeli op.
On the other hand, It turns out the Healy Plaza is just loaded with Masonic symbolism, and I do believe, Giuseppe, that there's a whole history here yet to be told about the Masons, their intervention in history that is going to be staggering, mind-boggling, of the extent to which this secret society has intervened in the course of human history.
Oh my god, the research I've read about how far that goes back to so-called hidden hand and they are highly committed to symbolism and in their beliefs, various kinds of magic spells and telling the victims ahead of time that what they're going to do through some type of predictive programming so it doesn't bounce back on them.
I mean, once you start looking into it, Jim, it's everywhere and interestingly enough, As far as Robert Kennedy Jr.'
's voice, he has stated on multiple occasions that he realizes he is vaccine-damaged.
And he used to be a believer in vaccination, which I labeled long ago quack-cination because it's the biggest scam in the history of medicine, dating all the way back to the fraud and grifter Edward Jenner in the mid-1990s.
Uh, 18th century with his so-called, uh, so-called, um, uh, uh, breakthrough with, uh, the smallpox coaxination.
But it's interestingly enough, Jim, Edward Jenner was a 33 degree level Freemason
and he was paid 20,000 pounds, which back then is an enormous sum of money
if you factor into inflation to do this experimentation by the shadowy elites of the day.
So everything, you know, it could literally drive you insane
if you are not firmly grounded in reality when you start looking in to this hidden hand
and how it's been influencing and society and feeding off the results for probably millennia.
Yes, yes, yes.
I think that's a huge story.
And the fact is that we have this rare opportunity to talk about JFK, which we did not expect.
Right.
We can consider it to be a gift of Alan Westbecker.
The Bandito books, you know, Captain Zero.
Whom I happen to like a lot.
And frankly, you know, if somebody questions who I am, you know, that I could be an agent of the Deep State, I don't mind.
I mean, I welcome the opportunity.
You know, I just say, look, if they're paying me to do this, I'd like to see the money because I could use it.
It's just so ridiculous of anyone who's familiar with all my work to make that kind of claim.
But, you know, I'm a forgiving guy, and if Alan had those thoughts, I'm sure he must have had reasons, and I would have been delighted to invite him to expand.
But on the other hand, we were going to focus primarily on vaccines and everything he's discovered about What he takes to be the non-existence of viruses.
Giuseppe, I'd like you to comment on that ever so briefly, but I want us to open up the lines for callers today.
We won't diverge into other subjects unless we have the opportunity because of an absence of calls.
So just know, 5-4-0, 3-5-2-4-4-5-2, Mitchell will start running the banner.
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Call Mitchell, get you on with Giuseppe and me.
I guess we can call today JFK Day.
So if anything you have, want to ask about JFK or Martin or Bobby, please feel welcome to do so.
I'll also comment on the death of Marilyn Monroe, by the way, since that's a fascinating issue where I've also Explore that and reported on it in the past on other programs.
There was one out of Hollywood actually called Truth to Tell where I did a presentation about Maryland's death and where I have a book of special importance to recommend there by Derek Porter entitled Marilyn at Rainbow's End, which presents what I take to be the best-founded depiction of what happened to her, which I'll recount when we come back from our break.
We're almost there.
Giuseppe, anything you'd like to add?
Again, 3-5-5-4-0, 3-5-2-4-4-5-2.
Paul, questions about assassinations?
Jack?
Bobby?
Martin?
Call questions about assassinations.
Jack, Bobby, Martin, Maryland, they're all open here.
I'm willing to bet every one of you has had questions about one or another or even all of the above.
Well, here's an opportunity to raise a question and see whether we can answer it and respond.
So we welcome your calls.
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your host welcome back to the final thirty minutes of the event uh...
We're a stripped-down crew today.
Giuseppe and the good professor Jim Fetzer are here.
Scorpio's gone.
The guest blew us off.
I guess he's kind of a nutty dude.
And Weissbecker, but he's interesting nonetheless, but oh well.
So, we'll be taking your calls here momentarily.
And until then, the major thing to keep in mind about everything we're discussing with Kennedy is it all builds on, it laid the foundation to pull off the insanity that is the scandemic, that is this absolute satanic initiative to inject Uh, genetic experimentation into the goyim cattle of the world.
Well, pretty much the first world because, uh, most of, uh, the, uh, the rest of the world is having nothing to do with it.
They understand it's, it's useless.
There is, keep in mind, there is only one form of immunity.
That's natural immunity.
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Don't inject your children.
I mean, what's being done now with these literally hundreds of injections planned for these poor I appreciate that vote of confidence, by the way.
Let's see, we have a couple of callers online.
one of these perpetrators should be hunted and eliminated from the face of this earth.
So there's the professor, he's coming back.
I appreciate that vote of confidence, by the way.
Let's see, we have a couple of callers online.
One from that 231 area code caller, please join, give us your first name and state and
fire away.
Yeah, this is Ken from...
This is Ken.
This is Ken from the 231 area code.
Bye.
Ken, go ahead, Ken.
Share us your thoughts from Michigan, Ken.
Can you hear Jim, Ken?
Ken, have we got a connection?
Well, I heard him.
I couldn't hear him initially.
Yeah, me too.
I don't know what happened to him.
Yeah, yeah.
Is this Ken?
Go ahead, Ken.
Yes, Dr. Jim.
Jackie's involvement with the assassination, is there any truth to that?
No, no.
It's just silly.
It's just silly.
Jackie loved Jack.
She held his head in her lap.
All the way to Parkland when she testified before the Warren Commission, she said.
You know, he looked fine from the front, but I had a terrible time holding his skull and brains together.
When she climbed out on the back of the truck, she was going after a chunk of his skull and brains, which she held in her hand all the way to Parkland after they pried his morbid body out of her arms and composed herself when she came into trauma room number one.
She turned to the anesthesiologist, Pepper Jenkins, extended her hand and asked, will this help?
The most poignant moment in the history of the assassination.
I mean, Jackie knew a great deal about culture, literature, the arts.
Theater and the like, but she knew nothing about ballistics, uh, neurology, brain surgery.
The claim has, the claim has... Because of the affair with Marilyn Monroe, which might've been fabricated too, right?
No, no, no, no, no.
Jack had a... That happened.
Jack had a dalliance with Marilyn.
I was going to come to that because Bobby's relationship with Marilyn appears to have been far more profound.
I mean, there are a lot of stories here.
A really wonderful place to get a sense of Hollywood at the time is this book by Darwin Porter, Maryland at Rainbow's End.
I cannot recommend it highly enough.
It's engrossing from first page to last and explains how Maryland's bungalow was bugged by everyone, by the mafia, by the mob, by the Kennedys, by the FBI.
I mean, What happened there appears to have been the following.
Marilyn was threatening to hold a press conference where she was going to explain everything she knew that was going on.
Unfortunately, that included a lot of information about the mob that Sam Giancana did not want
to be laundered in public and that he assigned Johnny Rossellini to go out there and take
care of Marilyn, but he insisted that she must not be hurt.
And what they did was they chloroformed her and then gave her a barbiturate suppository
and she died a peaceful death.
When the police showed up, the housekeeper was laundering all the sheets.
Johnny Rosselli.
Laundering all the sheets and was white as a ghost.
He was scared shitless by what had transpired so that they could destroy any DNA.
But the claim is that Jackie used a Derringer to shoot Jack.
It's just absurd.
There's no wound on the body that we cannot account for.
David does believe, by the way, now that there was a second shot to the head that he was hit on both the right and the left temple at virtually the same time.
And we do have a, the eighth shooter is, was on the south knoll where there's a single tree.
And I've now seen two different photographs from two different experts on JFK, each of which shows him, they're different photographs, but they show him standing with a rifle.
And that appears to be the location from which that shot was fired.
So David has a book online.
It was on Kindle and I believe he's about to bring it out in a paperback about the John F. Kennedy Head wounds with a re-evaluation or assessment of the Harper fragment, which was this big triangular chunk of skull that was blown out the back of his head.
It was found on the grass the following day, but I believe actually it was a piece of skull taken from the little boy by the Secret Service during the limo stop, which by the way, Covered by my take, 20 seconds and at 18.3 frames per second, which is not one of the settings on the camera, that would have meant there was another 400 frames.
So you got 500 frames taken out, turning from Houston on down and another 400.
That's 500 more, which combined with the 487 frames in the excellent version, the original was around a thousand frames.
So there are more frames missing than we have in the excellent version of the film.
And I know and report on at least four different individuals who have seen what appears to be the original film.
And the limo stop was very abrupt.
Everyone was thrown forward.
And then the events as I described them, or at least in part, Larry Revere has done the most brilliant work.
So if you're really serious about JFK assassination, I highly recommend his book, The JFK Horseman.
Did you ever see the movie Executive Action with Burt Lancaster?
Yeah, and Robert Ryan.
That's an excellent film that preceded Oliver's by quite a ways and talks about Dallas Origins and the assassination.
I think that's an excellent film and I recommend it very highly.
Yeah, that was 10 years after the assassination.
Yeah, very good.
Well researched.
Excellent about the Dallas origins there.
there. But then you had, you see, I must mention another book by Noel Twyman entitled Bloody
Treason published in 1997, where Noel determined that the most successful plot to carry out
the assassination would have combined a CIA and the mafia with a secret service with the
FBI and Lyndon Johnson.
And how Lyndon was the one in the best position to put it together, and I guarantee you he was the inspiration.
This was a Lyndon Johnson operation, as I've been seeking to explain.
And where Phil Nelson's brilliant book, LBJ Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, is superb.
You have another, perhaps not as detailed, by Roger Stone about how, you know, LBJ was responsible for the death of JFK.
It's one of the better books out there.
But then we have the others I've been citing by, you know, Billy Solastis and Barb McClellan and Madeleine Duncan Brown and all that.
I mean, the evidence is simply overwhelming when you get into it.
But the Democratic Party has been aghast at the very idea.
Nigel Turner, who is this brilliant UK director, put together The Men Who Killed Kennedy.
There were an original Five or six episodes.
And then he turned to the research I'd done with my collaborators for what I guess was episode seven, The Smoking Guns.
And then there was eight, The Love Affair about Judith Baker and Lee Oswald in Dallas.
And then finally, The Guilty Men about Lyndon Johnson's role.
And those who've been close friends and supporters of LBJ just went bananas in Berserk and had it, you know, banned from television, where Joe Vallace, by the way, I mean, Jack Valente, who became the czar of Hollywood, married one of Lyndon's secretaries.
And there's reason to Lyndon was banging secretaries right in the Oval Office.
In fact, he was caught once by Lady Bird and put out an instruction that he must always be alerted when she left the private residence so he wouldn't be caught again.
Well, it appears, it appears, and I'll offer this as an opinion, but it appears to be a fact that he impregnated one of the secretaries and Jack Valenti married her.
So when Oliver Stone was, you know, producing and putting out his film JFK, Jack Valenti took an active role in undermining support From the Hollywood community for the Academy Award, which it manifestly deserved, and instead gave it to a film about a sadistic cannibal.
I mean, you know, Silence of the Lambs, give me a break.
The film by Oliver Stone is one of the best ever made in the history of cinema.
We have several other callers.
Let me try number 314.
Yeah, thank you for calling.
Very good.
Area code 314.
214.
Yeah, my mistake.
214.
Thanks, Giuseppe.
Who we got here?
214, just give us your first name and your state.
Yeah, this is Art in Texas.
Can y'all hear me all right?
Go ahead, Art.
Okay.
Go!
First of all, I want to ask if you're planning on being in Dallas on the 22nd this month?
No, I will not.
I will not be in Dallas.
Actually, it's very curious.
Judith Baker and I had a falling out a couple of years ago at a conference where I'd given what I thought was a rather masterful presentation in explaining You know, the involvement of the press and the cover-up and even of Israel, and apparently she didn't take that kindly and intervene with comments that I didn't appreciate.
She'd spoken to me sometime about wanting to give me and David Mantek their Lifetime Achievement Award, so I'd explained to her that we were both going to be there on that occasion, and instead she gave the Lifetime Achievement Award to Robert which I thought was completely absurd,
since Grodin had been trying to frame Oswald forever, and here's Judah seeking to vindicate him.
So I will not be in Dallas, no, I won't.
But I am doing several specials on JFK, one of which is already posted,
BitChute channel Jim Fetzer.
You have another question you'd like to add?
Yeah, I haven't heard a lot of discussion about the Dallas Citizens Council, which was allegedly created
on November 22nd, 1937, and its connection on the day of the assassination
and thereafter in controlling the media message coming in and out of Dallas on that day.
Are you familiar with the Dallas Citizens Council?
Well, I'm not in a position to say a whole lot about that, but I do know that the mayor of Dallas at the time, Earl Cabell, who was also involved in the plot to take out JFK, was a member of this very conservative group with all these ties to the oil industry, and I have no doubt about it.
Of course, H.L.
Hunt, who's so well-known, Was handing out a wanted for treason flyer for JFK the day before.
Madeleine ran into him in the parking lot behind the bank building where she was a young advertising executive.
He showed her one of these handbills with a profile, you know, like a mud shot and a profile of JFK wanted for treason.
And she said, HL, you can't do that.
He said, well, sure I can.
I'm the richest man in the world.
I can do anything I want.
There's speculation, and I believe it's true, that the Zapruder, when it was a film, when it was developed in Dallas, that we're actually, we're told there was the original in three copies.
I believe there was an original in four copies.
In fact, there's a numerical gap from the original and the three of the four copies, which I believe was sold to H.L.
Hunt for a hundred grand at the time.
So he'd have a record of his handiwork.
Thank you for the call.
Yeah, my family's been in Dallas since 69, Jim.
And it's amazing the connections I've made in my lifetime, you know, from people like Pat Kirkwood, you know, over in Fort Worth, a cellar nightclub.
Yeah.
And people that work for Jack Ruby.
Yes.
Having been in the Clint Murchison mansion before it was demolished.
Very good.
It just goes on and on, but yeah, the name of that book, in case you forgot the title, is called Final Judgment.
Yeah, right, Final Judgment, not Final Surgeon.
Final Judgment, Michael Collins Piper, yeah.
Because to me, there is a continuum in American history that it's not about Israeli so much.
It's about, shall we say, Judaism and communism.
Really going back to, frankly, the English Civil War and the Orange Revolution.
Good, good.
Look, I appreciate your comment.
We have three other callers on the line.
So, look, you've made some very nice points here.
I'm very glad you called.
913, Ericode 913.
Yeah, thank you.
Ericode 913.
Please give us your name and your state and join the conversation. 913.
Yes, this is John Seals.
I'm from Lee, Southern Missouri.
Okay.
I love your show.
I like both of what you both say.
Giuseppe, you're amazing.
I don't know your background, but I've never heard anybody quite like you.
You're pretty unique.
I just wanted to give you a little bit of background where I come from.
I'm a precision machinist, not a regular machinist, and I do a lot of reverse engineering.
So if I may give you a different facet or a different lens to observe some things through,
let me please present it.
And that would be Kennedy's tie with Trump.
And I wanna point out that James Fetzer had an honor, or Giuseppe, either one of you guys,
because you're both solid, credible, and you would do the right thing, put in the right position.
And given that, had either one of you become president, you would both wind up just like Kennedy.
And having, being duped by Trump and what he stands for, what he stood for was amazing.
But what he did was horrific.
And being that he's still alive and not walking around like a dead corpse, like anybody else that would go in there and do the right thing, it's truly amazing.
I think people need to open up their eyes to the fact that he's still alive and walking because If he was going to do one iota of a good thing like myself or James Fetzer or like Giuseppe would, he'd be dead meat.
And that guy's still walking around.
If you ask one person in this country, how would you feel about a casino owner running the presidency?
Everybody would have said, lock him up.
I think the case of Trump is extremely complex, and I'd be glad for us to do a whole show about it.
In my opinion, the overwhelming reason why Trump wasn't in their pocket is the extraordinary efforts they had to take to get rid of him.
He put the economy on a sound footing, he made us energy independent, he locked down the borders.
They went to massive efforts to get rid of Trump, and in my opinion, that contradicts the thesis that he was one of their henchmen.
It wouldn't have been necessary to get rid of him.
You just go with him.
So I appreciate your bringing it up, and I do believe we need to spend a whole show on Donald Trump.
Thank you for raising the point.
I agree.
That is part of the illusion, though.
Don't get it wrong.
That is part of the illusion.
Go study infiltrators.
Oh, okay.
Look, look, look, look.
Today we're talking about JFK.
We're not talking about Donald Trump.
We got Chicago Brew here.
Brew, join the conversation.
Oh, Brew, you left.
And Murr.
Murr, you left.
Brew's there.
Brew's there.
Oh, Brew.
Brew, go ahead.
Join the conversation.
It's great to hear from you, my friend.
I haven't heard from you in some time.
Go ahead, Brew.
That's right.
Hey, listen, this is what I want to talk about, but let me just irk the audience as I am irked in a recent interview conversation with Donald Trump when he says, well, the Jews, Israel used to be in control of Congress like 10, 20 years ago, and they used to own and control it, but now today they don't, and that's a shame.
They should.
Let that sink in.
That is absurd on its face, and he said it, and we can't deny it.
It's on tape.
Okay?
Bottom line.
Brew!
We've spent the whole show talking about JFK.
I don't like suddenly shifting the attention to Donald Trump such as he may be very flawed.
That's for another show.
Do you have anything to contribute about JFK, Bobby?
I'm calling in because of your Marilyn Monroe that she died a peaceful death.
Well, I heard a few years ago a conversation on the radio And there's supposed to be evidence, photographic evidence to back this up, that there were federal agents involved in her death.
And she didn't go a peaceful death.
Yes, they say it was a drug overdose or something, so on and so forth.
Yes.
But what I understand is because she shared a bed with Bobby and Jack, that there was a lot of pillow talk.
And she knew things she wasn't supposed to know.
And they tortured her.
They beat her to a pulp.
That woman was beaten and suffered a horrendous death.
No, I don't, I don't, I don't, obviously, obviously, you may not believe me now, but I heard this conversation.
It was a legitimate conversation.
It wasn't a show job.
The person had nothing to gain by saying this, and there's probably photographs out there to back it up, but I would revisit this before you ever close the book on this subject, because you say she went on a peaceful death.
That's absurd!
I'm going to answer.
That's a bro.
Bro, bro.
You're entitled to have a difference of opinion, but why get angry about it?
I mean, that's just ridiculous.
I respect you're having a different point of view.
I'm not infallible.
But I did it to her, and we are.
Look, I've seen the photographs of Marilyn in her bungalow.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling.
We're going to move on.
Murr, are you still here?
If Murr's not here.
Giuseppe!
I'm here!
Oh, Murr!
Okay, good, Murr!
Go ahead, speak up!
Join us!
Remember, the Pruder film, the only thing that was allowed to be seen, wasn't released until 12 years later.
Yeah, 1975.
Now, I want everyone to check out this site.
MyGodImHit.com.
Brian David Anderson, S-E-N, and Mark Anderson, S-O-N, Very good information here.
We've been lied to so much.
I mean, this is all a bunch of malarkey.
All of it.
So, you really need to see.
And Oliver Stone... Which is a bunch of... Murr, murr, murr, we got it.
There's a huge amount out there about the Zapruder film.
Now, what's the bunch of malarkey?
Are you talking about the Warden Report?
Are you talking about JFK?
Oliver Stone?
Are you talking about me?
I mean, just be clear.
What do you mean?
Which is the malarkey?
The whole thing.
Now, when they were taking Oswald out and Jacob Rubinstein supposedly shot him, there's no blood.
And Jacob Rubinstein supposedly with tumors, no, he made Aliyah.
Grace Poole saw him.
And that's what Final Judgment Piper talks about.
And that's why I think they went after you.
This is a, this is a big... Micronumid.com, check it out.
And your site isn't up, right?
JamesSpencer.org?
Yeah, we're getting, we're getting, but it'll probably be up within 24 hours, Murr.
Yeah, we had to relocate.
JamesSpencer.com is up for your legal fund, though, so.
But please, people, check this out.
It's very eye-opening.
And like I said, Oliver Silverstein went to South America.
That was a fact-finding mission.
And look what's happened to South America since.
Burr, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Burr, thank you, thank you.
I'm trying to make a point here that I think you would appreciate.
Ralph Sinque has done some brilliant work about the shooting of Oswald by Ruby in the basement.
That was not actually Lee Oswald, that was an FBI agent by the name of Bookhout who was pretending to be Jack Ruby.
They'd taken Jack into another room and stripped him of his clothing so Bookhout could wear it.
I think they were worried he wouldn't be, you know, reliable enough.
There's fascinating work done by Ralph Sinque.
Look for the new JFK Show and where we discuss it.
It's a really fascinating development.
I want to thank all the callers, even if you have strong disagreements, and this is one of those subjects where they are endemic.
Almost everyone has very strong opinions.
I'll only say I have benefited from bringing together the best experts in the world to study the assassination, and what I'm reporting to you is a distillation of our collaborative research.
My final recommendation then, go to BitChute channel Jim Fetzer and check out my JFK special for the Goldfish Show on the 15th.
Giuseppe, thanks so much for your vote of confidence.
Okay, we're off Rev Radio, Jim.
It was just a fascinating show, man.
Your knowledge and depth is impressive.
Well, I was just surprised that Brew was coming on so strong like that.
Who in the world did he say he was listening to talking about it?
He never said which show it was, but it clearly Caused his Grinch-like heart to grow three sizes thinking about Marilyn getting beaten up.
Yeah, well, I certainly would not like that idea.
No, Giancana, Sam was very explicit that Marilyn should feel no pain, so I'd be intrigued by his sources.
I'd be glad to take a listen.
Sure, absolutely.
Giuseppe, thanks so much.
All right, Jim.
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